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Seeing as I'm eliminating the need to decide a realm, we'll need 7 rolls of 7D7

Rolled 1, 6, 1, 6, 3, 4, 3 = 24 (7d6)

>>3403173
You mean 7d6 yeah?

>>3403176
Yup sure did. Just have bricks for fingers

Rolled 5, 6, 4, 5, 5, 3, 6 = 34 (7d6)

>>3403173

Rolled 1, 1, 1, 6, 5, 3, 6 = 23 (7d6)

>>3403168
oh neat its been awhile since we've had one of these

having run one of these before don't do all the rolls at once since traffic will be slow]/spoiler]

Rolled 3, 5, 5, 4, 4, 1, 5 = 27 (7d6)

>>3403173
It's been too long. Let's be a lady

Rolled 4, 4, 4, 3, 6, 4, 4 = 29 (7d6)

>>3403173
Neat.

Rolled 2, 1, 6, 3, 7, 2, 6 = 27 (7d7)

>>3403173

>>3403252
Fair enough. I'll be sure to try and break it up with the coming rolls.

>>3403272
I think making the head of house a woman would be cool. There aren't enough of them in the setting.

I'm actually thinking of making the MC a sworn sword to the heir of a house. Try and make this quest kind of unique by not focusing on house building and action aspects of the rules. Only if there's interest in playing a quest like that of course

>>3403290
I dunno, I don't like the idea of making the head a woman just because. Doing things "just because" doesn't lend itself well to anything serious.
Also, it doesn't really interest me
>I'm actually thinking of making the MC a sworn sword to the heir of a house. Try and make this quest kind of unique by not focusing on house building and action aspects of the rules. Only if there's interest in playing a quest like that of course
This actually does seem interesting. MC and the head would influence each other greatly.

Rolled 1, 3, 4, 5, 3, 1, 4 = 21 (7d6)

>>3403290
I'll do the final roll
Sworn sword? Could be interesting but most people enjoy dynasty building and improving our lands and that wouldn't be possible if we were just a simple man at arms.

>>3403297
I know I would enjoy it.
Besides, we can indirectly build the dynasty by talking the head into it. Or, if he's too young to take charge, we might even be the regent, if he has no uncles or aunts.

>>3403290
>I'm actually thinking of making the MC a sworn sword to the heir of a house.

Do this, if you do a woman MC it devolves into a right shitshow of thirsty anons, a sworn sword can be an Intresting way of having to Indirectly influnce things depending on how we build them.

>>3403302
I don't mind not being a lord or lady of the house but I'd prefer being related to the house for the dynastic aspect of the story. Maybe a third or fourth child.
Let's just have a vote for it.

Alright well to sum up our stats before we roll for events.

Defense: 19
Influence: 44
Lands: 18
Law: 22
Population: 24
Power: 27
Wealth 41

So we'll take 1D6 for the number of events please.

>>3403294
That's understandable. A vote would definitely be in order.

>>3403297
Well the idea I've got in the works is the MC will be the second son of a very minor but very ambitious noble house who gets sucked into the absolute perilous world of politics of the westerlands through his wife and father.

Rolled 5 (1d6)

>>3403320

>>3403320
And i definitely meant 1D6 for the houses founding for fucks sake

Looks like a 5. So we were founded about 100 years before the start of our story. I'll snag a D6-1 for the number of events

Rolled 4 (1d6)

>>3403320
Well I do think that being the lady who married to someone from this house (maybe the heir) will be fun too.

Alright looks like 3 events, which seems about right for a house our age.

3D6 please for the first and founding event

Rolled 1 - 1 (1d6 - 1)

>>3403328

Rolled 4, 5, 1 = 10 (3d6)

>>3403338

Rolled 6, 4, 6 = 16 (3d6)

>>3403338

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>>3403328
Posting screencap for Anons who have no reference

Decline, and glory. One more and we'll get this show started.

>>3403343
Much obliged.

>>3403342
Nice.

Rolled 5, 3, 6 = 14 (3d6)

>>3403346

Decline, Glory and Victory. I dig it.

Alright lets get the bad one out of the way. 4D6 please

Rolled 5, 5, 2 = 12 (3d6)

>>3403346
only 3 rolls rolled apply so far mine should be the last one

Rolled 6, 1, 3, 4 = 14 (4d6)

>>3403346
By the way, have you considered getting a trip if your IP's dynamic? It'll save you a lot of trouble.
>>3403352
rollan

Rolled 4, 5, 3, 4 = 16 (4d6)

>>3403352

Rolled 2, 2, 6 = 10 (3d6)

>>3403352

6,1,3 and 4. Bites a little in influence but oh well. onwards and upwards. Seeing as we've got some activity here I'll take the next 2 rolls please. 4D6 and 3D6.

>>3403355
First time using a trip so here goes nothing

Rolled 6, 3, 4 = 13 (3d6)

>>3403364
rolling

Rolled 1, 3, 3, 6 = 13 (4d6)

>>3403364

Alright so the rulebook says during house creation each player can roll 1D6 to add to any category so I'll give you guys 3D6 to add to the house where you will.

Here are your guys' current stats

Defense: 25
Influence: 44
Lands: 17
Law: 25
Population: 24
Power: 36
Wealth 37

Please give me 1D6 plus the resource you want to add it too. Taking the first three rolls.

Rolled 3 (1d6)

>>3403373
Defence
Get it up to 30

Rolled 4 (1d6)

>>3403373
wealth we're very close to being Affluent

>>3403374
Castles are for chumps

Rolled 5 (1d6)

>>3403373
Put it in Wealth.
We'll get the other shit Soon(tm).

Rolled 4 (1d6)

>>3403373
Defence

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Alright so let's take a look at the finished product.

Defense: 28
Influence: 44
Lands: 17
Law: 25
Population: 24
Power: 36
Wealth 46

Needless to say we wealthy and we fucking matter.

First things first is defense. Not that we have a lot of options but hey. We can always build a wall later.

>>3403385
I say stone hall(Keep), maybe something like a half finished Castle?

>>3403385
Can we transfer influence and wealth into power, defense, lands, or law? Because 17 lands seems pretty crippling.

>>3403385
Small castle in renovation. Spend some wealth each turn to finish it

>>3403402
why not roll with it? a crippling problem can make for a fun scenario.

>>3403395
Something along the lines of a small keep carved into the side of a mountain? Very Westerlands.

>>3403402
I'd like to try and make these choices difficult so I'm inclined to say no, but how about we compromise by saying you can convert wealth in one other resource at a rate of 3 to 1. Feel free to discuss this amongst yourselves.

>>3403412
>Something along the lines of a small keep carved into the side of a mountain? Very Westerlands.

thats sounds appropriate and badass, prehaps its taken most of our houses existence to complete and now its nearing completion.

>>3403412
Let's go with hall carved from a former mine then

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>>3403420
I dig it.

So looks like we'll go with a hall. (And considering our hall's location I'll allow you guys to upgrade to a small castle if you save up enough defense)

I think we'll get influence sorted and than wait for tomorrow. So how many children does our house have? 44 influence is alot.

>>3403425
6,like the starks

>>3403425
What does status do?

>>3403425
5.
Four is a good number for our other to overcome.

>>3403425
First-born son
Second son
Third daughter

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>>3403425
Considering Influnce isn't spent like wealth or defense and remains rather static I say we go all in

>Noble born first son, golden child (20)
>Noble born Daughter (10) currently a ward of another house
>3 children younger than 12 (15 total) born of fathers second
>one Bastard from a mistress, father keeps and still has, he's old enought to wield a sword and fight (n/a cost)

we're one over but thats rather negilable unless we're being pedantic about it.

>>3403435
Influence is a measure of our status and reputation and isn't spent like Defence or wealth, its level affects house fortune rolls

>>3403425
6. 3 sons and 3 daughters

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>>3403435
>>3403440
Continued as laid out in pic related Influence tells us the maximum status the head of the house can have

Alright so a first born son seems popular. So we'll say we have another 24 influence to spend. Any more children we want to lock down? It was mentioned earlier if we were going to play as a sworn sword(which I'm leaning towards) that you guy would like to be married to the house. We could be married to a daughter of the house, so maybe go with 2 daughters? Or maybe we won the hand of the firsts in a tourney? Just throwing ideas out there.

>>3403451
3 daughters, and 2 younger sons

>>3403451
Maybe we're the bastard son. We always wear a helmet so nobody knows of father's shame, and we follow the firstborn son.

>>3403454
Go with this.

>>3403459
I like this being a sort of Theon greyjoy to the First sons Robb stark except less full Ironborn retardnever go full Ironborn retard

>>3403454
this if we can support it

>>3403454
>>3403460

So i think we could swing this by saying there are 3 girls, say 22, 20, and 17. One boy whos 15, and a bastard son who is 10?. Maybe the bastard is our squire?

>>3403463
In order to do this though, we would have to take the offer I made earlier to exchange wealth for influence. You'd need to give up three wealth in order to get that influence in order to make this possible.

>>3403463
Children with status 2 are free. Since the house has status of 5 >>3403445
children past the second one are cost free.
Anyways what time period will this take place in?

>>3403463
That looks glood.
Reiterating: if we're going the path of the sworn sword, we're the bastard, at the age of 20? And the other kid can be 10.

>>3403463
No need to have a bastard. See this >>3403466
Also I don't want to be a bastard. Rather be a man/woman who married into the house. Can you also make the daughters younger. Say subtract 3 years of age from each of them.

>>3403466
Blackfyre rebellion. First one. We Valyrian as fuck.

>>3403463
>>3403469
Yeah children that old would be already
Married and having children of their own. Don’t wanna be at that point yet. Also 3 boy 3 girls. Plenty of spares in case the eldest dies.

Sounds good

We're not even at character creation yet for our lord I'd say leave off on any actual decisions regarding him until the house is sorted.

Alright how about this for a compromise.

We are the son of a landed bastard. When we became a knight ourselves, we took the name Underhill. We won the second daughters hand in a tourney and married into the family. When the lord of the house saw our prowess, he took us on as a protector for his first born son and heir.

That work for everyone?

and I've totally misread how the heir system works. I'm not super familiar with the system so you'l have to forgive me for that. So please vote below.

>3 Girls, 2 Boys
>3 Girls, 3 Boys

>>3403466
>>3403470
I'm thinking the year is going to be 281. Harrenhal is coming up, and we can delve into what went on in the westerlands during the war of five kings.

>>3403474
Works for me.

>>3403475
Oh, and
>3 girls, 2 boys
We're the third guy in the home

>>3403474
>>3 Girls, 3 Boys
Sounds good

>>3403474
Overhill. We’re not dwarves, and we can bitch and moan about not being over the hill old farts when we get old. If we get old.

>>3403474
>>3 Girls, 3 Boys
Can one of the younger sons be our squire?

>>3403474
3 and 3. We’re married to one of his daughters, we can whip the 3 sons into fighting shape.

Alright looks like 3 girls, 19, 17 and 14 and 3 boys, 15, 12 and 9. We're married to the second daughter.

>>3403481
Deal.

>>3403484
Or maybe one of them is our rival and dislikes us for whatever reason.
Our squire looks up to us for our autismheroism and incredible fightan and winnan skills.

>>3403482
Maybe all 3 of them. The girls are the oldest. Also do we have to be Westerlands? I think the Vale, the Reach, the Riverlands, the Crownlands, and the North would all be more interesting.

Let’s be relatively close to the Stepstones so going over there and carving out our own lands isn’t out of the question.

>>3403474
As for the ages how about this :
Sons : 22(the heir) , 14 (our squire) , 11
Daughters : 19(also married inside the house) , 17(married us) , 16 (unmarried)
Maybe make the lord of the house a lady?

>>3403487
OP wanted Westerlands and that's that I think

>>3403486
Lol is that a Gorgutz reference?

>>3403487
And I'm pretty set on the quest being set in the west. There's political upheaval, the iron born are right near by, we can take part in the taking of kings landing. I promise I'll do my best to make it exciting.

>>3403490
>Sons
Looks alright.
>Daughters
Maybe bump them up a year each?
>lord of the house a lady
Not outside of Dorne.

>>3403490
I'm fine with this if everyone else is.

My only question is how is the first daughter married inside the house? We're quite an influential house so most likely a first born daughter would go a long way in making alliances.

>>3403492
>Gorgutz reference
Yep.

>>3403494
I'll support it. Maybe the first daughter fell in love with a unlanded knight and the lady, being a softie who married for love too allowed it?

>>3403494
If you think she would find a better match outside the house then so be it. I'll concede on that point.

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Well I think we can say that spending the influence is settled. Maybe we can come back to the specifics once we have some more concrete foundations for the house?

We have 4 influence left to spare.

And we're onto lands. And this one is going to be a tough one. I think I'm going to nod off, but I don't work tomorrow so I'll be back come the morning.

>>3403501
We obviously need a mountain to carve our keep into.
So we have 8 left.
Dense woods and a river?

>>3403494
She married someone who while relatively insignificant netted us a good deal of Influnce while he was adopted into the house?

>Terrain: Mountains (9)
>Feature: Ruin (3)
consider this for the Unfinished or simply abandoned parts of our castle
>Feature: Road (5)
Maybe we have a functional mine that the lannisters take from?

I'd love to have a hamlet/small town and a stream but simply can't afford it for the land we rolled

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>>3403504
Unfortunately, the westerlands can't take forests as land holdings.

>>3403505
Who knows. If we go with this, maybe or mine is just beginning to boom. In that case, we could have an influx of people coming to our lands to work said mine ( wealth holdings dependent)

>>3403507
That sucks. But with enough wealth, maybe we can take our own iron price from the Ironborn.

>>3403507
Let's go with mountains, road and stream. Stream and roads are good for trade if the mines run out.
Maybe the first daughter could've married a descendant of a Targaryen bastard. Prestigious, but he's landless.

> Mountain
> Coast
> Ruin
> Grassland
> Stream

Coast gives us Fishing, Trade and Good Rainfall.

Grasslands give us Agriculture and Livestock

Stream lets us Irrigate Grasslands and provides Fresh Water

Mountain & Ruin synergise well for our Keep/Castle

>>3403521
Sounds good I support it.

>>3403511
You have enough lands to go with both a road and a river. A river just makes more sense trade wise than a stream

In which case, see the red circle on the map. That area would make a lot of sense. Road to trade with both Lannisport and Kings Landing. And the river that heads all the way through the Reach. Very lucrative spot.

>>3403516
See the green spots. Only risk is were in prime ironborn raid location. Otherwise, we could possibly be a relative powerhouse by providing food to the west (and the iron islands in peace times).

>>3403516
That's more than 17
Our choices are either
>mountain
>road
>ruin
Or
>mountain
>road
>stream
My choice would be the 2nd one

>>3403524
I'll back the stream, even though I added ruin as a option on my intial cast its a fairly weak concept

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>>3403523
For fucks sake, forgot the image.

>>3403523
Alright then. I'll change stream to river. >>3403526
Red spot is good

>>3403526
Red circle. I fucking hate iron niggers.

Alright vote time.

>Mountains(9), Road(3) River(5)

>Mountains(9), Coast(3), Ruin(3), Grassland(1), Stream (1)

>>3403535
>Mountains(9), Road(3) River(5)

>>3403530
Let’s be near the iron niggers. More opportunity. Let them weaken our neighbors in their raids, and we get easy expansion. Then when they Chimpout against Robert Baratheon, we are already on the coast and can loot and pillage the hell out of them.

>>3403535
>Mountains(9), Coast(3), Ruin(3), Grassland(1), Stream (1)

>>3403535
>>Mountains(9), Road(3), River(5)

>>3403539
Road is 5

>>3403535
>Mountains(9), Coast(3), Ruin(3), Grassland(1), Stream (1)

>>3403543
Right. Road should be 5, river 3

>>3403535
>Mountains(9), Road(3) River(5)

>>3403536
>>3403539

Why do you niggers want to be so far away from the action? More Ironborn means more killing and loot for us to do. Make ourselves strong and they’ll ignore us in favor of our weaker neighbors. Who we then get an easy expansion against. Then when the Ironborn Chimp out, we get to raid them back, and we’ll obviously go for maximum plunder and profit.

>>3403535
>Mountains(9), Road(3) River(5)

>>3403535
>Mountains(9), Road(3) River(5)
>>3403537
Do it

>>3403535
>>Mountains(9), Road(3) River(5)

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Well I think I'm going to call it here. 5 - 2 for Mountains, Road, River. We are a geographical cross roads so that presents us some interesting opportunity.

Our Law gives us a -2 to House Fortunes, while our population gives us +1.

Tomorrow we can deal with wealth as the wealth holdings are quite extensive.

https://img.4plebs.org/boards/tg/image/1423/13/1423135781079.pdf

Heres the link if you guys want to give it a browse. Keep in mind with only one domain, we'll only be able to manage one estate holding, and up to to settlement holdings with our hall.

>>3403563
>Mine rich(15/20w)
an Obvious choice, Gold or Silver are the go to but maybe Iron? If we want to absolute madmen we could gewt two
>Maester(10w)
considering we are Incredibly ambitious a maester makes sense for Prestiege and reputation.

>Trading Inn/Tolls (10/5w)
We are Situated on a crossroads and it's a relatively simple and easy source of revenue Maybe we possess a mountain pass?

depending on if we have any wealth l suggest either
>standard of living (comfortable) (5w)
>Solar (1d) (4w)

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I knew I needed some sleep last night because we totally missed power holdings, which we have 36.

>>3403707
Veteran Cavalry(10)
Trained Infantry(7)
Trained Infantry(7)
Green Archers(4)
Trained Garrison(5)

>>3403723
+1

I'll give it another half an hour before we move on to the fun stuff. Mainly wealth, and deciding the houses history. Looks like a solid base for a military though.

>>3403723
Support. Large army is good. They can gain experience later.

>>3403723
sure +1

Perfect. Nice and easy, and leaves us with three power to spare.

Lastly comes wealth. Again, I'll be using the following for additional holdings for the quest so feel free to browse them.

Of particular note would be

1. A mine obviously. Maybe a jewel mine to make us stand out a little from the rest of the gold mines in the westerlands?

2. A quarry. Lots of stone, helps us fortify our keep. And given our position, in an easy place to do trade with the reach who might otherwise have a lack of good building material.

3. Dog Kennels, Because who doesnt love dogs?

In addition, a maester seems like a given.

But >>3403611 mentioned a trading inn and tolls. I really like the idea of a trading inn as it goes with the lore of small boom towns popping up around mines in the westerlands, and it's add on allows it to function as a small town for further settlement holdings. Seeing as wealth is easier to come by than land...just a thought. Anyways, I'll be back in an hour or two, got a few errands to run.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qm-psOSbKz_FbT9XpMXcNfwuOLmSRokmevgt9jkMVzo/edit?usp=sharing

https://img.4plebs.org/boards/tg/image/1423/13/1423135781079.pdf

>>3403723
This is fine.

How about some inspo for a mountain pass? Imagine a castle carved into one side, and a mine into the other?

>>3403993
Maester(5)
Rich Mine (20)
Comfortable living (5)
Tolls (5)
Trading inn (10)
Total:45

>>3404075
Very good. Backing.

>>3404075

yup

>>3403993
Here is my proposal.

>Rich mine 20 W (Gemstones)
We recently open this mine intending to get iron but while prospecting we found something much better, Lapis lazuli. This could explain our recent wealth despite our house short history.

>Maester 10 W
Father knew we would need a better education than the one he had, so he took great pains to acquire a maester from the Citadel once we were born.

>Tolls and Inn 10 W
The inn is older than our house and father started charging tolls once we clear the pass of highway men.

>Apiary 5 W
Our wife little project since childhood, after the honeymoon (heh) she convince us to invest into expanding her couple of bee hives into an actual Apiary with dozen of nests.

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A maester costs 10 (there's a typo in Out of Strife)and it seems like thats a go. As does a rich mine so theres 20. This leaves us with 16 additional wealth.

Currently being talked about are

Trading Inn (10)
Tolls (5)
Comfortable Living (5)

>>3404109
Apiary is an estate holding which we only have room for one of due to our single domain. Also, said domain needs to be either hills or plains, not mountains.

>>3404139
Nah. Maester costs 5 because it is an iconic setting trait in oosp. My calculations are correct and it can move forward.

>>3404144
No it doesn't. The typo comes in the form that Out of Strife prosperity assumes that a maester costs 15 in the core rule book. That's why it states the price should be lowered to 10 due to the fact that it's an iconic setting. If you look at the guide for creating holdings, it costs 5 wealth per +1 bonus said holding gives. Maesters give 3+ to House Fortunes, hence 15 wealth. -5 for it being iconic = 10

What about a master of arms for 10 wealth with the infantry specialty? It reduces the cost of all infantry and automatically upgrades all equipment for our soldiers by 1 wealth for free.

>>3404154
A master costs 10 wealth in the core book. Subtract by 5 and we get 5

>>3404154
Previous quests have maester pegged at 5 wealth and I assume that is the norm here.

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Are any of the homebrew holdings being used?

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I still think a maester should cost 10, because 3+ to house fortunes is pretty hefty. But if other quests before me and gone for 5 I'll make you a deal. Roll 1D6. 1-3 it costs 5, 4-6 it costs 10. Fair enough?

>>3404181
Nothing so far yet, but feel free to suggest them

>>3404139
Ah shit, you are right.

Rolled 4 (1d6)

>>3404189

Rolled 4 (1d6)

>>3404189
Alrighty. If it's 10 then drop the tolls

Rolled 6 (1d6)

>>3404189

>>3404197
>>3404198
>>3404199
The dice gods speak. 10 it is. If we subtract the rich mine and maester, we have 16 wealth left to spend.

Do we want to drop the tolls to have a trading inn and a comfortable living?

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>>3404197
>>3404198
>>3404199

>>3404206
drop tolls +1

>>3404206
Drop thee tolls

>Rich Mine 20W
>Master of Arms 10W either infantry or cavalry specialty, depending on what people want more of.
>Comfortable Living 5W
>Maester 10W

This gives us +3 to House Fortune rolls and +2 to Wealth gains from the mine.
The Master of Arms gives 1 wealth bonus equipment for ALL troops we have and may get in the future, and also reduces the Power cost of his specialty troops by 1, I recommend infantry since we will probably have a lot of those. He also reduces the severity of our injury rolls by 1 after a battle.
I’m not sure exactly what a maester does but it gives +3 to House Fortune rolls so that seems useful.

>>3404219
Supporting this. The Master of Arms could be our character possibly? Since our protagonist is gonna be some guy married to the daughter, not the actual head of the house.

>>3404227
This could work. I was thinking the MC could be the captain of the cavalry, but this could definitely fly as well.

Well, we've got 5 or 6 people here, so do we want to do a vote to finish up wealth?

Final Wealth Holding
>Master at Arms
>Trading Inn

>>3404244
>>Trading Inn

>>3404244
>>Trading Inn

>>3404244
>Trading Inn

>>3404248
>>3404255
>>3404273
You do realize a Master of Arms would immediately provide us with 5 Power and 5 wealth in savings? A trading in gives +1 on house fortunes and +2 defense for 1 unit. We have enough wealth and bonuses to wealth growth we can easily build one soon. The fact is that the Master of Arms provides more immediate benefit, as well as lasting benefit for us.

>>3404309
The master at arms doesn't provide a power reduction until you purchase the add on Field Master for an additional 5 wealth.

And the benefit to the trading inn is that if you invest in it's add on called " growth" for 5 wealth, you functionally have a small town (normally 20 land) and would allow the house to build a port and a marketplace. These compound in a ridiculous way and gold starts pouring like rain.

Either way, I'll give it 10 more minutes and than call it.

>>3404335
What's next btw? Shall we determine the family first before our own character sheet?

Trading Inn it is.

>>3404352
First I'd like to decide what our mine produces, and I'll let you guys choose two specialties for our maester. The mine is a precious mine which means gold/silver, or precious gems like rubies, sapphires or emeralds. and examples for our maesters specialties would be healing, commerce, history, warfare, magic, ravenry etc

But other than that, yeah lets get a house rolling here. Anybody have a name or heraldry suggestions? I'll show a few of my own

>>3404374
House Dindunuffin

We wuz good boyz we dindu nuffin yallz iz rayciss muhfugga.

>>3404374
Mine : precious gems
Maester : Mining and history

Head of the house is the Lady, aged 40, her husband is a Lannister from a minor branch, aged 42. The children are as voted here >>3403490

>>3404374
Heraldry is a picture of fried chicken, some watermelon, and a purple drink.

>>3404409
This ain’t Dorne there is no female Head of House. Let’s be an obscure cadet branch of the Castameres instead, fuck being Lannister.

>>3404409
Voting against Lannister shit. Fuck the Lannister’s. If we end up as Lannister’s I will constantly vote to kill our wife and her family.

>>3404416
>>3404419
Fine. No Lannisters. Some cadet branch of House Reyne then.

>>3404374
Maesters specialty’s are warfare and healing. If he gets more than that commerce.

>>3404416
There is. If a lord has only daughters or his sons are all killed then the eldest inherits. Read the book.

>>3404426
How about House Dindunuffin. Cuz the Reynes dindu nuffin wrong, we wuz good boyz Lannisters is just haters n sheeeit muhfugga.

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>>3404409
>>3404416
How about...the lady of the house was supposed to be married to a Reyne, but her husband got absolutely murdered during Tywins purge. She was than married to a minor lannister who took her name (Reynett? i dunno), The heraldry is a symbolic of a lion guarding the rubies that are beneath the mine.

As a matter of fact, our houses first event was a decline. It could be argued that we were reyne bannermen whos main branch of the family were exterminated, and a second son or minor branch than got our current holdings?

>>3404426
The House Dindunuffin cadet branch formed when a son of the House Reyne married a Summer Islander woman and was disowned and exiled. He took on their speech and mannerisms and they’ve been House Dindunuffin ever since.

>>3404437
How many specialty can a maester have and what does his specialty’s do? Bonus for that subject somehow?

>>3404437
Maybe she's not married to a Lannister but a loyal Knight of Tywin who helped destroy Castamere

>>3404443
I’m not sure that summer islanders are your typical American nigger. But this would be funny so I support it.

>>3404437
The lady could be the last survivor of the purge or some shit so she is allowed to hold the castle despite being a far cousin as long as she takes a new name and marries some loyal bannerman

>>3404458
That could be alright. Could be said knight killed the ladies husband to be in single combat? Have some real scathing interhouse politics between the lord and lady. plus...dealing with Tywin "Make it Reyne" Lannister

Also, how do you guys feel about >>3404437
said heraldry?

>>3404475
Alternatively, we could have been a cadet branch of house reyne, and a distant cousin of the lannisters, a Lantell or Lannet, could have married the surviving lady when the purge went down.

>>3404374
Mine: Lapis lazuli
Maester: engineering, healing

>>3404475
The heraldy is okay. Having a stormy household might be fun although evidently that did not stop them both from rutting often enough and creating 6 kids

>>3404488
Fine I’ll go with this since you guys seem to be racist against summer islanders. Even though they’re good boyz who dindu nuffin wrong.

>>3404502
The cadet reyne guy hatefucks his cadet Lannister wife. They hate each other but they love sexing each other.

>>3404507
I like this one. Good potential for bantz and even extra spare kids down the line.

>>3404507
LOL alright I'll support this. But make it cadet Reyne wife (the last survivor) and cadet Lannister hubby (the loyalist)

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>>3404502
>>3404507

Just to be clear the wife is the ex reyne, and her husband is the Lantell(? still need a name). By todays standards how all the kids were conceived was definitely a struggle snuggle, but in the setting, it's just a husband claiming his due.

>>3404513
Nah. Keep it as is. Don’t know how they ended up together, but the only reason hubby is still alive is because the 6 kids and Tywin isn’t enough of a scumbag to kill his own grandchildren. He does have fun teaming up with his distant niece to bulli her husband and shit talk House Reyne.

>>3404519
Nah the husband was a House Reyne guy who only managed to survive the purge because of having 6 half Lantell/Lannister/whatever kids. But Tywin teams up with his wife to bully him and shit talk House Reyne.

>>3404519
>>3404522
>>3404526
Tywin did the ultimate bullying. He confiscated the guys lands and gave them to his Lannister wife. Then forced him to take his wife’s last name.

>>3404519
Wife - Treyne
Husband - Lamont
We take the wife's name as she's the head?

>>3404522
No

>>3404536
The husband is originally Titus Reyne. Nicknamed T Rain. The waifu is some kind of Lannister. During the purge Tywin only spared him because he was a cadet branch, but punished him by giving his lands to his Lannister wife. And forcing him to take his wife’s name. So now he is Titus Lannister. And all his close friends are dead so nobody calls him T Rain.

>>3404526
>>3404531
I just can't see Tywin letting a male Reyne live, even if he was forced to change his name and heraldry. The fact a true heir to Castamere still exists seems out of character for Tywin. But if a daughter of a cadet branch survived, and was married to one of Tywins cousins in order to secure their former holdings...just seem more in line with Tywin.

>>3404553
Maybe Tywin likes humiliating him? Keeping him around just to bully. And since the holdings are secured through his distant niece and her children anyway. Titus just goes along with it since they’re still his kids, inheriting what was his lands. Only now they call themselves Lannister.

>>3404557
Plus he knows he’ll die if he doesn’t go with it.

>>3404553
True. I'll support it then. The only question now is what the name of the house will be. Obviously as a cadet of the reynes it has to be something similar.

>>3404565
Fareyne

> Reymont
> Reynett
> Fareyne
> Reyfall
> Reynor

Feel free to add to the list

>>3404565
bloodrayne

but more realistically, it doesn't seem very likely that a cadet branch of a Tywin'd house would be so influential.

>>3404582
Reynard

>>3404582
>reynett

>>3404553
Fuck the whole Reyne connection then. Scrap it. We’re just gonna be generic bastard knight got awarded some land and built it up background.

>>3404596
Supporting this. The whole Reyne connection Idea was stupid. I nominate house Goldstein since we have a wealthy mine we own. We make our fortune in gold and moneylending.

>>3404582
Reynold

>>3404601
House Goldstein? With a gold mine and good at moneylending? What would our heraldry be, a menorah? A Star of David? The meme potential is pretty nice, I guess I’ll support House Goldstein. Or Goldberg. Or Goldblatt. Or Goldczynski.

>>3404588
>>3404596
>>3404601

So here's the reason for it so far as I can put together in my head.

(Decline) House (???), a cadet branch of house Reyne had it's primary line eliminated during the first blackfyre rebellion. A cousin inherited who had fought alongside with the lannisters and distinguished himself handily. ( Glory). At this point, the house began to distance themselves from house Reyne and began to pay their tithes to house lannister. Over the next 90 or so years the (???)s became loyal banner men to the Lannisters, culminating in the war of the nine penny kings where we again served dutifully.

the last bit involving reynes was the current ladies father had engaged her to a reyne, and than the reyne/tarbeck rebellion happened. eliminating the prospect of that marriage, and said lady was than married to the lowly lannister husband (or some hedge knight)who slew her husband to be in single combat.

>>3404596
>>3404601
Agree, maybe instead we got our lands by making a name of ourselves during the Reyne rebellion, we put ourselves between Tywin and Roger Reyne and wounded him before he was force to retreat.

>>3404611
Nope. We’re House Goldstein. Ignore all Reyne related shit.

>>3404613
Sure. We can turn the Lannister gold into even more gold for ourselves through Talmudic Financial Sorcery.

>>3404611
Sure. Go with it

>>3404611
If you think that's best than do it QM. Ignore the shitposters and memers

>>3404613
>>3404611
House Goldstein earned its name by supporting Tywin during the Reyne rebellion. Starting out as just a hedge knight awarded some minor lands, Shmuley Goldstein, utilizing his Financial Wizardry, managed to turn the minor lands into a very wealthy and productive gold mine, a prominent trading inn, and prominent influence amongst his goyim neighbors.

>>3404627
Being a Goldstein would allow us to become even wealthier than Tywin eventually. We would surpass the Iron Bank and make them look like a bunch of filthy peasants from flea bottom.

I can definitely agree with getting rid of the general Reyne loyalties, although I'm keeping the current Lady having been betrothed to a Reyne she was deeply in love with.

Let's just take a vote for a name than.

> House Reynett
> House Reynard
> House Reymont

>>3404638
>House Goldreyne
Cmon at least throw us a bone. Let us be good at money.

>>3404638
>House Reynold
Well she loves her husband too but in the love-hate manner. It's gon be fun

>>3404645
>Goldreyne
Or Reyngold. Either way we make it rain money up in here

>>3404645
How about I give you the Lord of the house is named Titus. Followed by the vote? Because i did genuinly chuckle at T-Reyne

>>3404638
>Reynold

>>3404660
Could it be Trayvon instead? That sounds funnier than Titus now. Or Tyrone would work. And he’s inexplicably Black.

>>3404674
Or how about we don't be House Meme.

>>3404638
>House Reynold

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Alright well, looks like we are House Reynold. any ideas for our castles name now?

Lord: Titus Reynold
Lady: Elleanor Reynold

Heir: Tygon Reynold, 19
Daughter 1: Joanna Reynold, 19
Daughter 2: ??? (I'll let you guys name our wife)
Daughter3: Ellen Reynold
Son 2: Tyrus Reynold
Son 3: James Reynold

As you can tell, Lord Titus is kind of an ass kisser to his liege.

So to summarize we need...

Castle names
Wife names


Also, more heraldry ideas

>>3404740
Shouldn't the heir be a few years older?
Wife names :
Melara
Emelyn
Alyssa
Mariya

>>3404740
The Red Peak
Alysanne

>>3404740
Lion's Burrow

>>3404763
In order to make it work with the timeline, the oldest the oldest child could be would be 19. The current year is 281, so the Lord and lady have been married for 20 years now. So I made them twins instead.

>>3404788
Okay, so our waifu is 17 then?

>>3404804
Yessir. Might gross a few people out, but throughout history that was extremely common, and it works for the story. She'll be 18 by the time she gives us our first born though.

>>3404740
Wife’s name is Waifu Reynold.

>>3404817
I'm totally fine with it. If you take things further then the lady would be about 36 years old at most since she's old enough to be betrothed but not enough to marry.

How do we feel about the name Lion's Peak for a castle? Combine the two options given?

As for wifey, Alyssa or Alysanne? Kind of have the same feel?

And anyways ages ofr the family will be as follows.

Lord Titus, 44
Lady Elleanor, 36

Tygon, 19
Joanna, 19
"Alysanne", 17
Ellen, 15
Tyrus, 14
James, 10

Rolled 1 (1d2)

>>3404866
1. alyssa
2. alysanne

>>3404866
Castle name is fine.
So who rules in this house anyways? The lady is technically head of the house but the hubby is tywin's loyal dog.

>>3404882
Alyssa it is.

>>3404920
I'm thinking Lord Titus is going to have nominal control of the house in name, but Elleanor does everything she can to further her own goals, which almost certainly do not align with her husbands.

So before we begin designing our own character, the important question needs to be asked. Who are we loyal too?

> Lord Titus
> Lady Elleanor

(Keep in mind this is going to have a DRAMATIC impact on the storyline of the quest as the family is split in their loyalties)

>>3404939
>Ourselves

We will found House Goldshekel out of the ashes of House Lannister and House Reynold

>>3404939
>> Lady Elleanor

Alright well I've got to go play some sportsball, so I'll be back in a couple of hours so we can start building our MC!!

>>3404944
I like that we're ultimately motivated for ourselves, but for appearance the Last is a good cover loyalty.

We'll get her and her daughter in the end...if she's hot.

Castle Name:
> Phoenix Peak
We are Rising from being laid low.
Maybe have the Mountain itself called Firebird Mountain from old local Legends and Stories.

Loyalties:
> Ourselves

Maester:
> Healing
> Magic

>>3404939
>Lady Elleanor
Why not determine this during the story though? Loyalties can change after all

>>3405440
I think the question is more who we've generally aligned with so far.

>>3404939
Loyal to no one but ourselves, after all we would rather be tray the world than have the world betray us

>>3405376
This. Please.

>>3404939
Loyalty : ourselves
Nah. Let the lady be the master of the house. It is by right hers and would even the playing field since her husband's support is mostly from the outside.

>>3404939
how can we possibly make that decision outside the context of the actual story?

Does Lady Elleanor want to poison her husband and sell her children into slavery across the narrow sea? Is Lord Titus a murderous douche more aptly named Titus Andronicus? fuck if we know.

At best this is a vote on who we were loyal to prior to the beginning of the quest.

that having been said,
>Lady Elleanor

Why does every quest have to be about being the one in charge or only having loyalty to yourself? Can't we just have one protag who is loyal to someone else and just helps them out and shit without any thoughts of betrayl or does 4chan always ahve to be top dog?

>>3405685
A Song of Silver and Sword, is about a pious and loyal landed knight, the thought of being disloyal to his liege lord would be alien to the MC, not counting the fact he was sleeping the sister of that lord but it was out of love for her and not disloyalty to him.

>>3405695
Link?

>>3405697
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive.html?tags=House%20Grallner

Enjoy

>>3404939
>Lady Elleanor
I think we should start loyal to her but we have our own greater ambitions.
And the lady should be nominally head of the house. Maybe the Lord could have his own personal guard of Lannisters who are loyal to him only, creating an interesting power dynamic.

>>3405470 nailed it. I'm just looking to find who we are initially loyal to. definitely not saying loyalties can't change.

To clarify though

Lord Titus is in general a bit of an oaf, very loyal to Tywin because his "lordship" of the castle was his idea. He is open handed with his servants, and is generally an amiable fellow. Choosing to be loyal to him will result in being materially rewarded more often along with other benefits of wealth.

Lady Elleanor is calculating, demanding and very much loyal to herself, and the memory or her dead betrothed. Very much anti-tywin, but she has a massive drive to survive to she buries it deep. Doesnt stop her from plotting though. She genuinely loves her children though, and by extension, the MC if he makes her daughter happy. She is more likely to reward you by way of promotion, or power within the household, being the man that she herself cannot be.

>>3405703
Yah but dad is dead again though.

>>3404939
> Lord Titus

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>>3405729
He-He'll be back one day though. He just went to the store to buy some cigarettes...as soon as he comes home we can finally SKULLFUCK Langward, Bronze horse royces ass and pillage and DEUS VULT those damn fucking moon swallows. Dad if your reading this please come home

>>3405714
this. i think lord titus having his own personal guard garrisoned in the castle would be fun. lady elleanor is the head, but lord titus has the strength to back his demands

>>3405736
Dude I highly doubt he's coming back at this point though, didn't help I called him out when he tried to run Grallner.

>>3405714
>>3405754


Just because we arn't in Dorne I don't think she can officially be the head. However, she could be rather like Lady Olena in Highgarden where she runs the show from behind the scenes. Essentially, to the greater world, Lord Titus is the boss, but everyone in the castle knows who really runs things

>>3405770
it's possible if the previous lord has no sons i think. of course the title is superficial as either the lady or the lord is the one running the show depending on the household.

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Well its a bit slow, so I'm just going to say our initial loyalties our to the Lady of the House.

So lets try and decide more about our character. There was talk earlier of us being the son of a hedge knight. Did we take our wifes name and heraldry when we married her? Thinking about it now it does seem likely. But, what was really our defining moment? Also, we'll need a...

>Goal
>Motivation
>Virtue
>Vice

I'm leaning towards power for a goal, but very open to suggestions

Rolled 4, 3 = 7 (2d6)

>>3405809
I say we roll for it!

>>3405817
Course I roll power.

We can use the roll, but I'm going to apply it to background event first. The only problem with rolling these is you normally end up with a clusterfuck chaotic retard leaning character.

But we achieved a significant deed. Any ideas? Maybe we won a squires melee for our knighthood? The biggest tournament in the westerlands in the time frame was in lannisport to celebrate prince viserys being born. Or maybe we saved a lord, or killed a massive beast preying on the smallfolk?

>>3405809
Motivation : Lust
Virtue : Courageous
Vice : Cruel
Let's be an evil knight

>>3405830
The significant deed was winning the tourney for our wife's hand, beating many young ambitious lords from higher houses.

>>3405834
Sure

>>3405832
support

>>3405832
I've two problems and both are on my ability to portray the character in a convincing way. Lust as a motivation when playing an evil knight is going to lead to only one thing, and rape isn't something I really want to describe in detail. And as for cruel, I just don't want this to turn into A Song of Murder and Hobos. I'm definitely down to play a callous knight, who has seen suffering and is inured to it, but actively evil isn't a road I'd like to go down

>>3405809
>Goal
To obey and execute the will of Lady Elleanor, and to defend the well-being of House Reynold. We are loyal to the House first and to the will of the head second.
>Motivation
After we were saved from the life of a Hedge-Knight by winning the first place in the tournament held by Lord Titus, we became devoted to Lady Elleanor and our wife when we became part of the family. We decided to be loyal to them, no matter what.
>Virtue
Total and unwavering dedication to his friends and family, and an excellent sword arm.
>Vice
Merciless. Will go to any length to defend the House against what he sees as a threat.

I would like to be a good knight for once

>>3405852
>I just don't want this to turn into A Song of Murder and Hobos
Basically this

>>3405856

So something like this?

>Goal: Service
>Motivation: Family
>Virtue: Loyalty
>Vice: Merciless

>>3405852
But Murderhobo is the most lucrative profession in the world.

>>3405864
Sounds good, we are loyal but if there is an enemy we are merciless.

>>3405864
Yes.

>>3405852
How about this then?
Goal : Power
Motivation : Greed
Virtue : Courageous
Vice : Licentious

Not rapey or cruel but very much a cynical and immoral Knight.

>>3405864
How about revenge for the goal. I don’t know who we want vengeance on, but we definitely want it. Maybe Tywin or Denarys or whoever.

>>3405868
This

>>3405809
Revenge
Hatred
Courageous
Ambitious

Payback time fuckers

>>3405874
Hell yes. Payback against the fuckers who killed our family. My name is Elleanor Reynold. You killed my family. Prepare to die. Bitch.

>>3405874
>>3405877
Oh boy. I think we just created Elleanor. This woman is on (secret) a warpath.

>>3405871
Maybe on dad for abandoning us. We were kicked out young after our face was scarred to remove any obvious resemblance to our noble father, and became an itinerant hedge-knight trying to survive. After we won the fancy tourney for our wife's hand in marriage, we settled down, and can consider the prospect of revenge now that we don't have to work and fight every day to survive. We have removed our helm only once, before Lord Titus and Lady Elleanor in private.

>>3405883
Is elleanor our characters waifu or the Lannister guys waifu?