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Here is the new rules, feel free to look over them, and ask any questions you have. As a slight tl;dr, I'll answer some anticipated questions now.

>Pentos can't have power units? Thats super unfair, why do that?
That is intentional. Pentos is unable, in lore, to have more than 20 Warships, and have any standing forces or sellswords at all. The only way to have military forces as Pentos is to hire Slave Soldiers. As compensation for this, Pentos has 5 extra resources at Family gen.

>Everything seems to cost wealth or Influence. How can you get a good mix of stuff if everything costs the same?
Again, that is intentional. At generation, only 1 city has negatives in both Influence and Wealth, and that is made up for by special rules, and the others with Negatives in those resources have more than enough bonuses from special, unique things to make up for it.

>City X is clearly better than City Y. Why would anyone play City Y?
Because you roll randomly. In my opinion, Kings Landing is the weakest of all the starts in the base game, only good from a boost to law, with a wide range of penalties. However, thats why we roll randomly to decide where we end up.

(BTW, when we get to choosing a city, it will be roll 3 times, and vote. Each city has an equal chance of appearing)

>>3461801
>Lys
Welcome back. Glad you feel better now.

>>3461801
Glad to see you back. House Blacksand was one of my favourite ASOIAF quests.

>>3461801
>Myr
Good to have you back

>>3461827
1. Welcome back
2. Are you father in disguise?

>>3461942
I am not Father in disguise, as can be seen in the House Blacksand quest where I checked if I could use everyone's favourite banker before I did. So unless father is into some weird double bluff roleplay, I am not he.

>>3461827
Pentos

>>3461948
Ah yes, fat Aros. I remember now.

soooo....
when is something happening?

>>3461827
Lys

>>3461995
2 hours from the first post. As I said. This is here so people can read over and get their head around the new houserules.

>>3461827
What year will this take place?
Will we be able to choose what religion we follow or do we follow the religion of whatever city is chosen?

>>3462025
This will take place in 284 AC. As for religion, as long as you are not in a city that states you can't worship certain things (Norvos), you can choose.

>>3462037
then if this takes place in the same universe then lissara can make a cameo

>>3462070
Lissara has just married, so depedning on where you end up, maybe. However, people are getting restless, so I'll start the House Generation.

I'll need 3 rolls of a d9, taking the first 3 results (So roll a d9)
>1-Braavos
>2-Lorath
>3-Lys
>4-Norvos
>5-Pentos
>6-Qohor
>7-Tyrosh
>8-Myr
>9-Volantis

If there is a duplicate in the rolls, I'll add an option, a dealers choice.

Rolled 7 (1d9)

>>3462091
Hoping for Braavos

Rolled 1 (1d9)

>>3462091

Rolled 6 (1d9)

>>3462091

Rolled 5 (1d9)

>>3462091

Rolled 5 (1d9)

>>3462091

>>3462108
>>3462103
>>3462094

>7. Tyrosh
>1. Braavos
>6. Qohor

>Tyrosh- Tyrosh is an Island city, with claims on the disputed lands. It is ruled over by an Archon, who is chosen from a conclave of the wise and powerful (Or wealthiest). Tyrosh has a stranglehold on the dye trade in Essos, thanks to being close to the only place producing purple dye. Several banks are based here, and the city is in a state of near warfare with Lys and Myr over the disputed lands.

>Braavos- Braavos is also known as the Bastard Daughter of Valyria, and is one of the most powerful Free Cities. Etablished by escaped slaves, slavery is outlawed here, and recently, similar limitations were placed upon Pentos. The City is ruled by the Sealord, chosen by the Keyholders, the descendants of the 23 first slaves.

>Qohor- On the edge of the forest of the same name, on the bank of the Qhoyne, sits Qohor, city of the Black Goat. Strange and dark rumours surround this city, chiefly due to it's steelsmiths being able to reforge Valyrian Steel, and the large amount of Blood Mages living in the city. Qohor is ruled by a council of elected officials, though candidates are typically selected from the powerful and influential within the city.

>>3462140
>>Qohor-

>>3462140
>1. Braavos

>>3462140
>>Qohor- On the edge of the forest of the same name, on the bank of the Qhoyne, sits Qohor, city of the Black Goat. Strange and dark rumours surround this city, chiefly due to it's steelsmiths being able to reforge Valyrian Steel, and the large amount of Blood Mages living in the city. Qohor is ruled by a council of elected officials, though candidates are typically selected from the powerful and influential within the city.

>>3462140
>7. Tyrosh

>>3462140
Tyros

>>3462140
>Braavos

>>3462140
>>Tyrosh

>>3462158
After rereading the rules I'm changing to Qohor. I want that sweet Valyrian steel.

>>3462140
>Tyrosh

>>3462140
>Qohor- On the edge of the forest of the same name, on the bank of the Qhoyne, sits Qohor, city of the Black Goat. Strange and dark rumours surround this city, chiefly due to it's steelsmiths being able to reforge Valyrian Steel, and the large amount of Blood Mages living in the city. Qohor is ruled by a council of elected officials, though candidates are typically selected from the powerful and influential within the city.

>>3462140
>7. Tyrosh

>>3462172
Valyrian steel is good but access to the narrow sea is much better.

>>3462140
>Qohor

Closing Vote here, at quarter past the hour.

>>3462246
Tyrosh
>>3462203
>>3462180
>>3462167
>>3462157

Braavos
>>3462148
>>3462159

Qohor
>>3462143
>>3462150
>>3462172
>>3462183
>>3462238

Okay, Qohor wins by one vote.

Qohor. On the edge of the Dothraki sea, gaurded by the 3000 Unsullied of Qohor, and the gateway to the Far East, Vaes Dothrak and Yi Ti, Qohor is an eirie place. Founded by Cultists of the Black Goat, who is still the predominant god within the city, Qohoric Families profit from lumber and trade in expensive goods brought from beyond the lands normally called Essos. This trade has made Qohor rich, though not as rich as it once was when the Kingdom of Sarnor existed, before it's end in the Century of Blood.

The large forests, and the fact that Norvos holds the far bank of the Qhoyne, means that fertile land is in short supply for the Qohoric, and the morbid reputation the city enjoys lessens the reach of the families inside. However, protected by an elite army of Unsullied, and with laws enforced by a City Watch unburdened of city defense, Qohor enjoys a defensible, secure position.

Please give me 7 rolls of 7d6, for House Starting Resources

Rolled 2, 2, 6, 6, 1, 4, 1 = 22 (7d6)

>>3462271

Rolled 2, 1, 5, 2, 4, 4, 3 = 21 (7d6)

>>3462271

Rolled 1, 1, 4, 1, 5, 6, 2 = 20 (7d6)

>>3462271

Rolled 2, 2, 1, 5, 3, 6, 6 = 25 (7d6)

>>3462271

Rolled 2, 6, 2, 3, 3, 2, 5 = 23 (7d6)

>>3462271

Rolled 2, 4, 2, 2, 2, 6, 2 = 20 (7d6)

>>3462271

If we don't get the last roll by quarter to, I'll finish it off.

Rolled 1, 2, 1, 5, 6, 4, 3 = 22 (7d6)

>>3462271
>>3462314

Qohoric Bonuses

Family Resources
22+10=32 Defense
21-5= 16 Influence
20-5=15 Lands
25+10=35 Law
23+0=23 Population
20+0=20 Power
22+5=27 Wealth

Okay, now we need how old the house is. I'll need a 1d6.

Rolled 5, 6, 2, 1, 2, 5, 3 = 24 (7d6)

>>3462271

Rolled 1 (1d6)

>>3462323

Rolled 6 (1d6)

>>3462323
Pretty mediocre

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>>3462331
>1. Ancient. The Age of Heroes.
Predating Valyria itself, stretching back beyond the Long Night, your Family has always been here. Were you part of the first Dragontamers, but abandoned your ways when the Freehold announced tolerance of religion? Or have you always lived on the banks of the Qhoyne, in some fashion, merging with the cultists of the Black Goat?

I'll take >>3462332 as the next d6 roll, so you have a total of 9 events. Can I please get 9 rolls of 3d6.

Rolled 1, 3, 2 = 6 (3d6)

>>3462343

Rolled 6, 5, 3 = 14 (3d6)

>>3462343
Maybe a family of old dragonlords exiled and deprived of their dragons?

Rolled 2, 4, 5 = 11 (3d6)

>>3462343
>>3462343

Rolled 6, 6, 4 = 16 (3d6)

>>3462343

Rolled 3, 5, 6 = 14 (3d6)

>>3462343

Dear god you might end up being the most powerful house ever to be made in QST.

Rolled 6, 1, 5 = 12 (3d6)

>>3462343

Rolled 5, 1, 5 = 11 (3d6)

I'm gonna see if I can't spike this, something needs to stunt this never ending run of good events...

>>3462407
lol

>>3462407
At this point I don't mind taking 1 Doom to represent the destruction of Valyria lol

>>3462418
I would, but the problem is that the Free Cities (Except Volantis) realy benefitted from the doom, since they got their freedom, and stopped paying taxes.

Rolled 3, 2, 4 = 9 (3d6)

>>3462343

I'll drop one more roll at half past the hour.

Rolled 5, 4, 5 = 14 (3d6)

>>3462343

>>3462434
>even the bad event we got is the least bad event possible

So do we win?

1. Madness (6-2d6 to each resource)
2. Victory (+1d6 to Defense, Influence, and power)
3. Infrastructure: (+1d6 to 2 resources)
4. Glory (+1d6 to Defense, Influence, Law and Power
5. Victory (+1d6 to Defense, Influence, and power)
6. Ascent (+1d6 to Influence, Lands, Law and Power)
7. Infrastructure: (+1d6 to 2 resources)
8. Treachery (-1d6 to Influence and Law, +1d6 to Power)
9. Victory (+1d6 to Defense, Influence, and power)

32 Defense +4d6
16 Influence +5d6, -1d6
15 Lands +1d6
35 Law +2d6, -1d6
23 Population ---
20 Power +6d6
27 Wealth ---

Okay, we need to make a decision about where the Infrastructure is, and then handle the Madness. We'll start with where you want the 4 1d6 rolls to go, maximum of 2d6 per resource.

>Defense
>Influence
>Lands
>Law
>Population
>Power
>Wealth

>>3462473
1 lands, 1 pop, 2 wealth

>>3462473
>Lands
>Population
>Wealth x2

>>3462473
1 pop
1 weal
1 inf
1 law

>>3462477
>>3462480
Support

>>3462477
>>3462480
>>3462490
>>3462491
Okay, 1 lands, 1 pop, 2 wealth

1. Madness (6-2d6 to each resource)
2. Victory (+1d6 to Defense, Influence, and power)
3. Infrastructure: (+1d6 to 2 resources)
4. Glory (+1d6 to Defense, Influence, Law and Power
5. Victory (+1d6 to Defense, Influence, and power)
6. Ascent (+1d6 to Influence, Lands, Law and Power)
7. Infrastructure: (+1d6 to 2 resources)
8. Treachery (-1d6 to Influence and Law, +1d6 to Power)
9. Victory (+1d6 to Defense, Influence, and power)

32 Defense +4d6
16 Influence +5d6, -1d6
15 Lands +2d6
35 Law +2d6, -1d6
23 Population +1d6
20 Power +6d6
27 Wealth +2d6


Right, now I need 7 2d6 rolls. These numbers will be subtracted from 6, and applied to each resource.

Rolled 2, 5 = 7 (2d6)

>>3462512

Rolled 3, 4 = 7 (2d6)

>>3462512

Rolled 4, 2 = 6 (2d6)

>>3462512

Rolled 6, 1 = 7 (2d6)

>>3462512

Rolled 3, 3 = 6 (2d6)

>>3462512

Rolled 1, 6 = 7 (2d6)

>>3462512

Rolled 4, 4 = 8 (2d6)

>>3462512

>>3462515
>>3462517
>>3462522
>>3462523
>>3462526
>>3462533
>>3462535


31 Defense +4d6
15 Influence +5d6, -1d6
15 Lands +2d6
34 Law +2d6, -1d6
23 Population +1d6
19 Power +6d6
25 Wealth +2d6

Right, so now we need 24 d6s. So lets break this down to 6 rolls of 4d6, and I'll apply them down the line, as they are written here.

Rolled 3, 2, 5, 5 = 15 (4d6)

>>3462538

Rolled 5, 6, 3, 3 = 17 (4d6)

>>3462538

Rolled 1, 2, 1, 6 = 10 (4d6)

>>3462538

So that madness could have gone alot worse. Maybe better, but a total of -7 is not bad. So basically, when you were founded, your founder (Who pre-dates Qohor, btw) was more than a little crazy, but not world-endingly.

Rolled 5, 1, 4, 3 = 13 (4d6)

>>3462538

Rolled 2, 5, 2, 5 = 14 (4d6)

>>3462538

Whoever mentioned exiled dragonlord, that sounds like a cool idea. Maybe our ancestor went mad because he foresaw the doom, abandoned the gods, became a crazy street preacher type, and was exiled for his actions.

>>3462566
Checked. I like it. Maybe our string of fortunes came when his heir started worshiping the true Valyrian gods again, Balerion, Syrax, Vhagar, and Meraxes.

>>3462566
Problem is, your house was officially founded with Valyria, basically. Since it's age of heroes, and Valyria comes around mid Age of Heroes

Rolled 2, 6, 2, 3 = 13 (4d6)

Right, I'll finish off the 4d6 rolls

>>3462579
Sooooo, the doom has or hasn’t happened yet?

>>3462584
Not at the house founding. At around your Ascent is when the Doom happens.

46 Defense
31 Influence
22 Lands
36 Law
26 Population
41 Power
30 Wealth

Okay, you now have 1d6 to put anywhere you want to.

>Defense
>Influence
>Lands
>Law
>Population
>Power
>Wealth

>>3462584
Despite all the "The Doom is over 400 years ago" in the books, thats barely anything compared to how old the Starks are. Brandon the Builder was making the Wall when your house was founded, thats how old you are. You may very well be one of the first families of Valyria.

Rolled 5 (1d6)

>>3462596
>Wealth

>>3462606
Okay we'll keep the 5 as rolled, but wait to see the result of the vote.

>>3462596
lands.

>>3462606
sure

I'll call the vote at 10 past

>>3462606
>>3462621
>>3462622
Wealth carries it

Final Resources
46 Defense
31 Influence
22 Lands
36 Law
26 Population
41 Power
35 Wealth

>>3462636
Phew, that was long and arduos. However, you guys are impressive...

Defense- Excellent defenses, not only are the lands of this family well guarded with fortified positions, but the city holdings are probably walled and enclosed as well.
Influence- Lesser in influence, this Family does not sway much respect among other cities, or families.
Lands- The lands of this family is modest, most likely only one settlement or industry placement.
Law- Control over the holdings of this Family is secure, with patrols and very little crime tolerated.
Population- The people who owe your family their taxes are typical in numer, a small village perhaps, or numerous small farmsteads.
Power- Compared to most free cities families, you command an intimidating force, diverse, and probably containing several non-slave or sellsword forces.
Wealth- Prosperous. Your family can easily afford to maintain themselves, both at home and in their holdings.

Now we need to look at Holdings. This will proceed normally, except for the first.

You must have a City Holding where you operate out of (Similar to Castles in Westeros). While these are technically purely rp based, there will be alot of benefits from having certain things. For context, Illyrio Mopatis would count as having a Palace.

>Suite of Rooms: (5 Wealth, 5 Influence, 3d6 months). A set of rooms, well appointed and with sufficient bedrooms for the immediate family and their servants. Lower ranking family members and guests sometimes have to find rooms elsewhere.
>Townhouse: (10 Wealth, 10 Influence, 6d6 months). A full house, with rooms for the immediate family, guest rooms, and rooms for slaves or servants. Lower ranking family, and unimportant guests will have to find rooms elsewhere.
>Palace: (5 Defense, 15 Wealth, 10 Influence, 60+10d6 Months). A large, expansive building, with walls, plentiful rooms for family and guests, and a full wing of servant/slave quarters. Luxurious and a clear sign of wealth and power.
>Enclave: (10 Defense, 20 Wealth, 15 Influence, 96+10d6 Months). An entire section of the city put aside for your family and their operations. Surrounding a large palace, enclosed with walls, with separate gates to gain entry, and including artisans, taverns and merchants not even contracted to your family. Only the most powerful families can afford these.

>>3462665
>96+10d6 Months
What does this part mean?

>>3462669
That is how long it would take to build if you buy it in the game, not during family creation.

>>3462665
>Suite of Rooms: (5 Wealth, 5 Influence, 3d6 months). A set of rooms, well appointed and with sufficient bedrooms for the immediate family and their servants. Lower ranking family members and guests sometimes have to find rooms elsewhere.

>>3462672
Alright, let's take the biggest one then

>>3462665
>Enclave

>>3462676
What are the benefits of each one?

>>3462684
I don't know, I just picked the one that's most fitting for our old, successful family

>>3462684
Same benefits you get from having a castle as a Westerosi House. Mainly RP based, but the bigger ones are more secure, your enemies will have a harder time screwing with your City Holdings, etc.

Thing to remember is, that unlike with a Westerosi Noble House, you are based in the city, with your lands some distance away from the city itself. This represents where you live, work and operate from, so is fairly important.

>>3462689
From the numbers, it looks like you are an old, but declined family. You have kept your established buildings etc, but your business and political power has waned. At one point, you may have been the ruler of Qohor, but those days are gone.

Enclave

>>3462665
Enclave. Maybe we have a dockside enclave and our own warehouses there.

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>>3462715
>>3462711
>>3462676
>>3462673

10/46 Defense
15/31 Influence
22 Lands
36 Law
26 Population
41 Power
20/35 Wealth

Okay you now handle Defense Holdings. These will be on your lands, securing them against raids, and attacks. They also will house any troops you employ and don't keep in the city.

You have 36 Defense to spend.

>>3462730
Can we get a small castle that’s been almost upgraded into a regular castle?

>>3462734
You can't purchase partial upgrades. Also, the more defense holdings you have, the more separate pieces of land you can protect. Again, more of an RP thing, but will be taken into consideration if you get into a serious fight.

>>3462730
Let's go with a small castle, we don't have that much land anyway

>>3462730
Small castle. We don’t have much in the way of lands to protect anyway.

>>3462730
A Small Castle, save the rest.

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>>3462756
>>3462754
>>3462752

Okay, next would be Influence normally. However, Influence is used to purchase troops as well, so that is something to consider. As such, we'll skip this for now and move onto lands. You have 22 Lands to spend, and can spend it according to this table. I have realised when I made the Homebrew, I mistyped when putting woods in and put it in the wrong column. As such, being from Qohor, you can have Hills or Wetlands, and then Community, Road, Ruin, Water, Woods.

>>3462768
Hills, Woods (Dense), Hamlet

>>3462768
No Plains? We are next to the Dothrak sea.

>>3462782
"Next to" meaning there is a huge ass forest between you and the grasslands full of crazy murdurous nomads.

I have no idea what combination of stuff is best to get for lands so I just picked that. I could see having an island holding working though.

>>3462768
Hills, Road, Hamlet

>>3462790
What’s better, road or woods? I’d guess roads, but Woods could get us lumber for shipbuilding material, and we are in a coastal city as well.

>>3462768
>>3462790
Ok then

Hills with light wood
Hills with road

Also is a hamlet something we should get? Is that separate from our population score?

>>3462796
>we are in a coastal city as well.
No we are not.

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>>3462796
Qohor literally only controls the Forest of Qohor, and the wetlands inbetween said Forest and the Darkwash.

We are on a large river though, connected to the mother rhone. I vote go with woods

>>3462807
If you have a hamlet it means you have a centre of population, instead of them all being scattered in small camps etc.

Well, that definitely doesn’t look coastal.

Right, so Hills and Hamlet have 2 votes, so its between a road, or woods. Your lands will be on the Dothraki side of the forest, in the foothills of the large hills that are between the former Kingdom of Sarnor and the Forest of Qohor. IF you choose road, its on the road, probably in control of the border castle guarding the road to Qohor. If further up, probably guarding the northern approach.

>>3462845
*If you choose Woods.

>>3462845
Go for the road

Domain 1:Hills, Dense Woods, River (15)
Domain 2: Wetlands, Stream, Ruin (7)

Puts us on the safe side of the Dothraki sea, on the river for maximum trade benefits with the other free cities. Plus using the lumber can eventually let us build boats and the like. That will allow us to toll our section of river, defend it etc etc

>>3462854
A word, you are not living on these lands. This is where your tenants live, people who work the land and send it to Qohor, where it is processed and sent on. Everything flows into your holdings in the city, then outwards. The Free Cities are very centralised.

>>3462845
Road. Sounds like a good way to collect tolls.

I'll call this at quarter past.

>>3462854
This is good too.

>>3462859
All the more reason to keep our lands away from dothraki savages. We arnt collecting tolls from the dothraki. Odds are they just ride around us if were strong enough to threaten a khalasar, or they raid and pillage our lands if we are weak

>>3462854
This will leave half of our lands undefended since we only had enough for 1 castle.

>>3462795
Supporting this. Just to break the tie with a sensible option.

>>3462888
Leave the marsh undefended. Hard to invade through swamps. Defend our prime forest with a castle, and maybe we can build a wooden fort on our other domain when were more established?

>>3462897
Or we just conquer a hall or tower from some other family who are weaker and can’t protect it effectively.

>>3462907
Also valid. I'm just super wary about being close to the dothraki sea. Seems like a good way to give up alot of wealth, especially with a hamlet. In my head that screams easy pickings

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>>3462874
The Dothraki don't pillage Qohoric lands, since Qohor regularly pays tribute (every 3-4 years), currently at the least.

>>3462891
>>3462863
>>3462849

We have 3 votes for a single holding of Hills, Hamlet, and Road. Your castle is here as well. Initially intended to allow Qohor to profit from the trader between Essaria and the rest of the Freehold, now it is the eastern guardpost of the Qohoric holdings, the last safe haven before the Dothraki sea. Around the castle is a small community, which pay rents to your family.

Next we would move on to power holdings, but Power Holdings have special rules for the free cities. Wealth is far more important, since it also includes the buildings you need to recruit different types of soldiers. You have 15 wealth to spend. Being from Qohor, you can build, in addition to the normal things from Out of Strife, Prosperity and the Homebrew, two more.

Secrets of Old Valyria: Valyrian Steelsmith (15 Wealth, 2d6 Months). You maytake the Family Heirloom Trait without spending a destiny point. All armour and weapons purchased are superior by default, without the extra cost. (Superior Armour gains +1 AV and -1 Bulk)
The Dark Arts: Blood Mage (5 Wealth, 5 Influence, 2d6 Months). +2d6-6 to Family Fortunes, gains Blood Mage as a Narrator Character.

>>3462914
With a castle nearby? Nah. Just gotta show we’re too strong to be bothered with. But we could point them to our weaker neighbors, and then when those neighbors can’t effectively defend their land from the Dothraki we come in and take over.

>>3462936
So we have 15 wealth available to purchase power holdings?

>>3462936
>Valyrian Steelsmith (15 Wealth, 2d6 Months). You maytake the Family Heirloom Trait without spending a destiny point. All armour and weapons purchased are superior by default, without the extra cost. (Superior Armour gains +1 AV and -1 Bulk)

>>3462936
Is there a way to spend something to get both?

>>3462947
If you want to buy Slave Soldiers and Sellswords, yes. Currently, you will be only able to buy Personal Guards, unless you buy the new holdings in the Homebrew

>>3462953
You have to invest the expenditure, both prices to get them. You can save up, or transfer resources to different ones (at a loss, cheifly) during Familiy Fortunes.

The Valyrian Steelsmith is expensive, but it is massively good. You and all your soldiers will have higher quality armour, and you will have a free Valyrian Weapon.

>>3462969
Could you link the home brew?

>>3462936
>Secrets of Old Valyria: Valyrian Steelsmith (15 Wealth, 2d6 Months). You maytake the Family Heirloom Trait without spending a destiny point. All armour and weapons purchased are superior by default, without the extra cost. (Superior Armour gains +1 AV and -1 Bulk)

>>3462973
Nvm it’s the same one in the op I just didn’t look at the rest of it

>>3462973
Basically, in Essos, standing armies are rare, since they aren't feudal. Therefore, you need to build the infrastructure to house and equip them before you can recruit them, and then take some of your population away to become soldiers. The more militant cities have certain things that bypass this, with some houses in Volantis ignoring the extra costs completely.

>>3462936
Spend 5 influence for a Barracks, and 10 on Bank shares.

Valyrian Steel smith makes sense.

1. Its fluffy, Qohor is famous for it, so why not use it to our advantage.

2. If were the last bastion of civilization, we definetly want any troops we get to be well armed and armoured.

So +1 for the steel smith

>>3462991
Influence isn't spent on Barracks, You'd spend 5 power and 5 wealth. But I'll assume thats what you meant.

>>3462936
>Secrets of Old Valyria: Valyrian Steelsmith (15 Wealth, 2d6 Months). You maytake the Family Heirloom Trait without spending a destiny point. All armour and weapons purchased are superior by default, without the extra cost. (Superior Armour gains +1 AV and -1 Bulk)
>Temple of the Valyrian Gods, Balerion, Vhagar, Meraxes, and Syranax

>>3462936
I kinda want the Dark Arts, since it fits with our backstory of being an old house started with madness, and Barracks so we can recruit some armies. I like the Valirian Steelsmith too, but it would cost all of our money.

Vote for: Dark Arts and Barracks

>>3463016
Syrax not syranax

>>3463018
We won’t have any actual wealth holdings at this rate. Since all of our wealth is being spent on things that will let us spend our power points.

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>>3463002
Barracks: (5 Power, 5 Wealth)
Bank Share: (5/10/20 Wealth).
Secrets of Old Valyria: Valyrian Steelsmith (15 Wealth)

Thats 30 Wealth, 5 power.

>Secrets of Old Valyria: Valyrian Steelsmith (15 Wealth, 2d6 Months)
>Temple of the Valyrian Gods, Balerion, Vhagar, Meraxes, and Syrax (10 Wealth, 12+2d6 months).

Thats 25 Wealth.

You have 15.
Influence is only used where it is listed.

>>3462991
>>3462974
>>3462949
>>3462995
>>3463016
>>3463018


>Secrets of Old Valyria: Valyrian Steelsmith (15 Wealth, 2d6 Months). You maytake the Family Heirloom Trait without spending a destiny point. All armour and weapons purchased are superior by default, without the extra cost. (Superior Armour gains +1 AV and -1 Bulk)

Now we move onto power, since you made this easier. You have no holdings that can recruit different soldiers, and no excess wealth, so you can only get Personal Guards, and Banner Houses. Here, banner houses are either offshoot families or literal vassals, that owe their undying loyalty to you. How loyal is another question entirely.

>>3463024
Bannerhouse, Elite Personal Guards

>>3463024
3 units of veteran personal guards.

>>3463039
Supporting I guess. These guys are expensive but we can’t exactly recruit anyone else.

>>3463042
Aww, no vassal swarm strats. No-ones going for the " I don't fight you, my 4 vassals do that for me" idea.

>>3463024
>>3463045
We could have 4 banner houses? I say we go for it

>>3463045
Gotta deal with their bullshit politics. Hard pass. Plus there is the chance of betrayal, and we’re too poor and weak to take that chance.

>>3463056
That would mean we have 4 vassals and no troops, except maybe 1 unit of newbie inexperienced mercenaries. 4 vassals all of which have accesss to more men than us since they can’t have their own banner houses.

>>3463056
Yup. Its 20 for the first, then 10, then 5 after that. It would be hilarious, but you'd literally be the bad guy from a bad wrestling show. If the wrestling show involved noble famlies of city states instead of wrestlers.

>>3463063
We could control them with politics and clever plots and such

>>3463065
We fail 1 roll and we’re completely screwed that way.

>>3463065
Just like a heel from a bad wrestling show!

>>3463067
Your telling me we have the chance to be Vince Mcmahon in Game of thrones?

1000x supporting this

>>3463066
It'll be fine, we're not in Westeros, treacherous vassals aren't as much of a threat as the Dothraki are.

>>3463075
Less Vince, more Triple H. Your vassals would literally be D-Generation X

>>3463076
They’re even more of a threat. If we fuck up we end up enslaved.

>>3463076
Literal city states in Essos, with large banking companies and the cutthroat politics of northern Italy. That shit makes Westeros look like a cuddly hugbox.

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>>3463078
PEDIGREEEEEE!!

Why even buy the Valyrian steel holding with all of our wealth if we’re not gonna get any personal soldiers and just get vassals? Since that only applies to our own soldiers.

>>3463076
They swear their fealty to us in exchange for our protection. What the fuck can we protect with literally no army if our vassals decide they don’t feel like listening to us that day? How can we enforce the consequences of not listening to us if we have no army and all of our wealth is tied up in the Valyrian smithing that we are using to equip zero troops?

Okay, so as a GM I have managed to throw a shitton of fuel on this fire. I will summarise

>3 Veteran Personal Guards (60 well trained guards,, and able to escort more than just you around to different places (Guests, familiy members etc)

>1 Banner House, Elite Personal Guards (The Halfway house, a vassal and some really scary dudes with very good armour and weapons)

>4 Banner Houses (My dumbass idea, which leaves you super vulnerable if things go bad, but sitting pretty if things go well)

>>3463099
We could have hostages, they could be family. I dunno.

>>3463106
1 banner house to avoid becoming a meme quest. But a guy can still dream

>>3463106
I mean, if you want to write up vassal swarm quest be prepared to just end it and deal with literal tons of salt from anons who voted for the idea whenever they fail at something vassal related. Either that, or just ignore dice rolls and chance all together to avoid salty faggots.

>>3463118
Votes were tied, either way, so please put your final votes here. I will count up at 10 past the hour.

>>3463106
3 veteran guards I guess. Banner houses were cancer in the previous game of throne quests

>>3463129
1 banner house

>>3463106
3 veteran guards. I don’t want to deal with any banner houses at all until we’ve built up a barracks and an actual standing army. One misstep with the banner house and we’re basically completely fucked, even if it is only 1 banner house.

>>3463106
We could also have just 1 Elite Personal Guards and save the rest of our power for when we build the barracks and we can make some proper units

>>3463147
I didn’t even think of that. But as it is, we have no wealth, and no wealth holdings that generate wealth. We have 1 Valyrian smithing bonus that does nothing for getting us the required wealth to build a barracks. As cool as it is, we’ve basically fucked ourself by getting it.

>>3463150
In these quests, Wealth is one of the principle rewards people get for rp etc, and House Fortunes coem around every month.

>>3463147
How about 2 personal guards? 1 to hold the castle, 1 for the city?

>>3463163
Sounds good to me, you have my vote

>>3463163
I guess this is ok

Okay, so thats 2 units of Elites? 26 power. You have a total of 41 to spend. Hell, you could get 3 units of elites, but if you are saving power no problem.

>>3463186
Okay, now that power is solved, we can handle Influence. In the Free Cities, succession of family line is done by Heir selection (As in, the head of house chooses the Heir). So make sure to consider that.

You have 15 influence to spend, and are not under Rhoynish law, so standard costs apply.

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>>3463207
You also only hav 16 Influence to spend. So there is only really one thing, which is a First born Daughter, then another daughter. Or you can save up, and spend this later to help intrigue tests.

>>3463201
I guess we can't afford a son yet, so I'd rather save the influence for later

>>3463218
If you have a son in play, you don't need to spend anything, btw. But they'll be vulnerable, since they will literally be a baby. If you have daughters, they can inherit, and can actually be older.

Right, it's getting late here and the Captcha is getting annoying, so I'll drop off for now, and pick this up tommorow. Sorry this is taking long, but Homebrew Rules ontop of an already long process, then rolling the literal maximum number of Familiy History events. I'll see you all tomorrow, probably around 1900 BST.

Here is a summary, just before I go.
40/46 Defense
15/31 Influence
22/22 Lands
36 Law -1 to House Fortunes
26 Population +1 to house Fortunes
26/41 Power
35/35 Wealth


Enclave: An entire section of the city put aside for your family and their operations. Surrounding a large palace, enclosed with walls, with separate gates to gain entry, and including artisans, taverns and merchants not even contracted to your family. Only the most powerful families can afford these.
Small Castle: A small castle is simply a smaller version of a standard castle. It usually has no more than a single keep, perhaps two towers and a wall. Examples of small castles include Bronzegate, Honeyholt, and Yronwood.
Hills, Hamlet, and Road: Eastern Border of Qohor, far side of the forest.
Valyrian Steelsmith (15 Wealth, 2d6 Months). You may take the Family Heirloom Trait without spending a destiny point. All armour and weapons purchased are superior by default, without the extra cost. (Superior Armour gains +1 AV and -1 Bulk)
2 Units of Elite Personal Guard w/Upgraded Armour and Weapons

>>3463207
could we have a brother or sister we can marry off? I don't wanna waste influence on a daughter, especially if it locks our character out of a marriage alliance.

>>3463282
Supporting this.

Plus going bachelor means we have a chance at acquiring a Lysene bride if you know what I'm saying

>>3463288
But a Lysene bride isn't a spicy Dornish waifu.

>>3463254
Hmm, by our holdings we mostly collect rents tolls and make good weapons. We need to change this as soon and diversify our sources of wealth.

>>3463318
It's why we need to get married, make a marriage alliance and some money, and translate that money into a barracks that we can use to form a standing army. Then use that standing army to annex weaker rivals.

>>3463294
>>3463329
Dornish harlots ain't shit. Gimme valyrian featured lysene nymphos

>>3463391
You can get Valyrian features and blood from a volantian woman, and their is the bonus that she would bring wealth and experience soldiers.

>>3463254
Late to the party I know but I'd be pretty keen on third unit of elite Personal Guard. They are tough sons of bitches and who knows how long it will be before we get the holdings to spend additional power.

Also seconding the suggestion of going bachelor with a sibling or two closely involved in the qst.

Start as bachelor, but have a bastard daughter.
How many siblings do we have? I want at least one qt sister eligible for divine blood marriage.
If possible, our family should have a few Valyrian weapons, enough for our siblings.
As for our religion, worshipping the old gods of Valyria makes sense given how old we are.

While I'm upset I missed the start of this creation, I'm thrilled we got Qohor. Easily my favourite free city. Exotic, and on the edge of the civilized world.

Now the fact we own a large part of the city suggests we were once very rich and powerful, but our current holdings dont lean to that beside our enclave and our valyrian steel smith. (Although that is definitely something very prestigious and lucrative). We will also need to work on increasing our power, the sooner the better. We have 60 guards for our enclave and small castle. Well equipped and deadly as they might be, that's not alot of men. Plus a better source of income, and influence for a proper male heir seems fitting. Lots of work to be done there.

As for trade, lots of caravans go to Vaes Dothrak, and well as further east to places like Yi Ti. Told would be a very solid and fluffy choice as soon as we can.

Lastly, I also agree with going with being a bachelor. It will let us aquire a dowry, trade and possibly even an army. My suggestions for a bride would be either Qohorik, Volantene or Norvosi, as they are the closest cities. My personal leaning would be within Qohor itself but that's obviously something to be decided upon.

Lastly, if we helped found the city of Qohor, we'd likely be worshippers of the Black Goat. The city founders were runaways mainly due to their religion, so I'm not sure if worshipping the old valyrian gods make sense. Although there are mentions of a temple of Rhollor in Qohor as well, so maybe I'm out to lunch.

Either way, looking forward to finishing our "house" and looking forward to the quest. Good to see you back Sandy!!

>>3464059
Nah fuck the black goat. That shits gay.

>>3464252
Rhollor then?

>>3464261
Our conversion to Rhollor could actually explain why our influence has waned?

Plus there is only one true God after all, and the night is dark and full of terror

I am up for Black Goat

What time is it in the world

>>3464280
284 AC

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>>3464252
>not being a knock off Satanist

Great goat is based, also solidly miffed I missed generation looks like we have a rather great start

>>3464265
If we were to become a follower of Rhollor. What would cause us to do something like that?

I could understand if we married a woman who was and we converted. But that would mean we dont start as single

>>3464583
The books say that there are followers of the red God in Qohor. Maybe our family converted awhile ago? Or maybe we still worship the black goat? I'm pretty fine with either to be honest

Valyrian gods. We’d get to do our thing, and be pope of dragons and shit.

>>3464651
Think the worship has pretty much ceased to exist outside the outskirts of Old Valyria

Valyrian gods would give us a lot of flexibility too. Excuses to experiment in whatever we want to do when it comes to magic, dragon eggs, and fiery sacrifices. We could do all the interesting things that black goat and rhllor people do, and make up the strictures as we go since there’s not much in the lore about the Valyrian gods.

>>3464654
it's still common among old blood Volantenes

I’m down for Valyrian gods. I think our characters are exiles from old Valyria anyway, it would make sense to bring our gods with us.

>>3464651
>>3464655
Honestly not a fan of the commonality of Valyrian shit and its need to be in almost every ASOIAF RPG game.

I'd rather see and be a part of a diffrent part of the world

>>3464663
Our house is older than Valyria, so I think it would be cool if we worshiped the black goat

>>3464655
Theres not much about the scriptures and laws about the black goat either...

Voting for Satan

We need the black goat. Why else did we choose Qohor instead of Tyrosh?

>>3464810
Because people dont actually know that much about the free cities. One even thought Qohor was near the coast.

I would personally have prefered something like Lys, Volantis or Myr

>>3464820
Unfortunately the die is cast and we are in Qohor

Qohor is the gateway to the true east by land. We have sorcerers and blood magic galore. The last city with knowledge of how to reshape valyrian steel. There is some great potential for exploring new avenues in ASoIaF that we havent been able to in previous quests

Okay, I'm back. We were on Influence spending. Do you want pre-existing children (Which would have to be daughters), or be not only a bachelor, but an heirless bachelor.

Having heirs means you are secure, but will need to make marriages lickedy split. Being heirless makes you vulnerable to people wanting to end your line, but you can marry people. Being "The Last Dragonlord" has a ring to it... even if you don't have dragons.

>>3464945
Heirless bachelor, we'll find our waifu in the game

>>3464945
Bachelor with children from concubine.

>>3464953
>Heirless bachelor, we'll find our waifu in the game
+1

>>3464945
A bastard daughter

>>3464956
supporting

>>3464953
this

>>3464956
>>3464963
Either of these

Bachelor mode with some kids from concubines.

Daughter
>>3465033
>>3464964
>>3464963
>>3464956

No daughter
>>3464953
>>3464958
>>3464991
You being unmarried is perfectly fine.
Okay, so one daughter will be 10 Influence, 2 will be a total of 15.

>1 Daughter
>2 Daughters

>>3465044
You have 16 Influence to spend.

>>3465044
1

>>3465044
1

>>3465044
2

>Could've gotten a blood mage
>Went with Valyrian steel reforging
>Feelsbadman.png

Not all bad I suppose, we have a pretty great start and can always pick that up later.

>>3465044

One daughter there Sandman.

>>3465044
1

>>3465062
>>3465051
>>3465050
>>3465047

Right, with that, Family Creation is done. Here is the full Family.

40/46 Defense
25/31 Influence
22/22 Lands
36 Law -1 to House Fortunes
26 Population +1 to house Fortunes
26/41 Power
35/35 Wealth


Enclave: An entire section of the city put aside for your family and their operations. Surrounding a large palace, enclosed with walls, with separate gates to gain entry, and including artisans, taverns and merchants not even contracted to your family. Only the most powerful families can afford these.
Small Castle: A small castle is simply a smaller version of a standard castle. It usually has no more than a single keep, perhaps two towers and a wall. Examples of small castles include Bronzegate, Honeyholt, and Yronwood.
Hills, Hamlet, and Road: Eastern Border of Qohor, far side of the forest.
Valyrian Steelsmith (15 Wealth, 2d6 Months). You may take the Family Heirloom Trait without spending a destiny point. All armour and weapons purchased are superior by default, without the extra cost. (Superior Armour gains +1 AV and -1 Bulk)
2 Units of Elite Personal Guard, with upgraded Armour and Weapon Damage
1 Daughter

>>3465073
Next, is character creation.

Are you a boy or a girl?

>Boy
>Girl.

>>3465074
>>Boy

>>3465074
boy

>>3465074
>Boy

>>3465074
>Boy

Instead of the standard combat build, I say focus in on intrigue and money-making abilities.

Here are some Qhorik male names.

Vargo, Tobho

Meralyn, Mero, Moredo, Myrmello

Areo, Byan, Ollo, Daario, Collio, Moreo, Roro, Tregar, Ordello, Illyrio, Groleo

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>>3465076
>>3465078
>>3465079
>>3465085

>Boy

>How old are you?
>Young Adult (14-18)
>Adult (18-30)
>Middle Age (30-50)
>Old (50-70)
>Very Old (70-80)
>Venerable (80+)

The older you are, the more XP you have, but caps are placed upon your attributes, more drawbacks have to be taken. Also, you have fewer Destiny points, and can take fewer benefits.

>>3465100
>Adult (18-30)

19

>>3465103

Supporting

>>3465103

I quite like the idea of a young, viserys like 'last dragonlord'. Silver haired, impetuous, ambitious and full of energy. I could, though, also go for a more experienced veteran of intrigue, middle aged and well prepared.

>>3465100
>Adult
21

>>3465107
Just feel like the older we are the more odd that we arent married it will be

>>3465103
Fine with me

Torgho nor-Qorik

> Adult, 22 Years old

>>3465103
Supporting

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Adult. This gives you 210 Ability Experience, with a maximum starting rank of 7. All Abilities start at 2, and 1 can be lowered to 1 to give +50 Xp. Increases cost as listed in the post on the age vote. Post your suggested builds below, and we'll hash one out.

>>3465141
Agility - 3
Animal Handling - 3
Athletics - 3
Awareness - 4
Cunning - 4
Deception - 4
Endurance - 3
Fighting - 3
Healing - 2
Knowledge - 3
Language (Qohorik) - 3
Language (???) - 2
Marksmanship - 2
Perusaion - 4
Status - 4
Stealth - 2
Survival - 2
Theivery - 1
Warfare - 2
Will - 3

(I'm assuming the status is free?)

We're going to need to know another language besides Qohorik. And I know we get a free valyrian weapon, but I don't know how martial alot of the free cities noblemen are. Makes more sense to me to go with a more intrigue based character.

>>3465172
We should probably know Low Valyrian and whatever it is now called.

>>3465172
Alternatively, if we want less of a jack of all trades.

Agility - 2
Animal Handling - 2
Athletics - 2
Awareness - 4
Cunning - 4
Deception - 4
Endurance - 3
Fighting - 2
Healing - 2
Knowledge - 3
Language (Qohorik) - 3
Marksmanship - 2
Perusaion - 5
Status - 4
Stealth - 2
Survival - 2
Theivery - 1
Warfare - 2
Will - 4

Languages are fairly easy to pick up, getting the rudimentary ability with only 10 EXP. Additionally, looking at the Polyglot benefit would have massive potential in this quest. Being able to speak and read in a language while only investing 10 experience is HUGE.

>>3465172
>>3465189
It would be cool if we knew Dothraki too, since we have a castle right on the border

>>3465172
Correct, similar to how most quests run, I am indeed keeping Status be to at the natural cap without xp spend. It makes no sense that to be a Lord makes you worse at the things a Lord would need to be good at.

>>3465198
Supporting

>>3465217
>>3465198
Okay, since this has 2 votes, this is what we'll go with. A focus on intrigue and persuasion, relying on your very well equipped Personal Guard to keep you alive.

Next is Specialties. You have 80xp for these, and they cost 10 per specialty.

See >>3465141 for the list of specialties.

>>3465141
Agility 3
Animal Handling 3
Athletics 3
Awareness 3
Cunning 4
Deception 2
Endurance 4
Fighting 5
Healing 2
Knowledge 2
Language (Qohorik, Valyrian)
Marksmanship 2
Persuasion 3
Status 3
Stealth 2
Survival 2
Thievery 1
Warfare 4
Will 3
This is a good spread if we want to get married, and quickly leverage that dowry into a powerbase of soldiers to expand.

>>3465189
Low Valyrian is a catch-all term for the various tongues of the Free Cities.

>>3465271
Supporting this. I want to not suck at fighting.

>>3465268
God fucking dammit, I missed my chance by 13 fucking seconds?

>>3465268
I don't want to be the only person posting here, but fuck it.

Awareness - 1 Notice
Cunning - 1 Decipher, 1 Logic
Deception - 1 Bluff
Knowledge - 1 Streetwise
Persuasion - 1 Bargain, 2 Charm

Can we reopen the vote on our starting character?

>>3465283
Supporting.

>>3465278
You can go to literally any other of the GoT quests if you want a main character good at fighting. I feel it's much more interesting to go full intrigue for once especially in a unique setting. We have the personal guards to protect our ass and they're very good at their job.

>>3465278
>>3465281
We're not in westeros though. And Qohor is defended by unsullied, so why would we be good at fighting? Besides, if were going to be focusing on marriage pacts and the like, we need to be good at influencing people and not getting assassinated.

>>3465281
I did let it run for 40 minutes, on an active thread. I'll see if there is any more support beyond >>3465278, and if there is we may look at it again.

I will say though, this is not Westeros. You can't simply attack and conquer fellow Families land if you feel you can.

>>3465292
That doesn’t mean we should fucking be a literal child in a fight.