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Some additional background from historical event rolls. The resource changes from these are already reflected in the post above. Note, I've kept some aspects of the background deliberately vague so that we can get some player input. I'd be happy to use holdings from Out of Strife Prosperity and any of the homebrew holdings from other quests. Some resources can be found here:
>https://www.mediafire.com/folder/6sar1o14399xv/A_Song_of_Ice_and_Fire_Roleplaying_(SIFRP)
Founding:
>Aegon’s Conquest
Historical Events:
>Favor
Queen Visenya Targaryen rose your petty clan to the status of Knightly House, granting your clan’s lands to the highest-ranking knight of your family in perpetuity on the condition that you swear allegiance to her and her alone. Your family repaid her favor during the Conquest with gusto and Queen Visenya subsequently honored one of your ancestors with one of the first places amongst the Kingsguard.
>Infrastructure
Your great grandfather cultivated some parts of your family’s land to allow for the estate's industry to flourish. He also started stockpiling some stone to upgrade your tower, but the project was largely forgotten after his death. Perhaps innovation skips a few generations in your family.
>Defeat
Most recently, your father led the House’s army as a sub-commander under Jon Connington during the Battle of the Bells. The hasty retreat turned into a chaotic rout and your father, through gallantry or stubbornness, was determined to defend the vulnerable supply train. This led to his death alongside your House’s infantry. The supply train was sacked anyway. You were elevated to Head of House by Lord Jon before King Aerys stripped him of his title.

Have you considered homebrewing/using a homebrew to better represent Crackclaw Point being an entirely different animal to the rest of the Crownlands?

For instance my own version of the Starting resources for the Point is as follows...

>Lands: +10
>Influence: -5
>Lands: +10
>Law: 0
>Population: -5
>Power: 0
>Wealth: 0

The same numbers as Dorne, only in different places. Just a thought though, and looking forward to playing!!

>>3728672
That first lands is supposed defense obviously

>>3728672
In truth, I'm probably going to stick with the starting resources as they are just because the challenge in them was part of why I was interested in running with this particular pregen out of the several I was playing around with. I'd be especially hesitant to allow too much of a jump in Land considering that I'll be adding a few more small Houses to the map that Father made already.
However, I do agree that Crackclaw Point is unique and I intend to make some changes to represent that. For instance, I'll allow all terrain types except mountains (so hills, plains, wetlands) instead of limiting us to only plains like the rest of the Crownlands. I also intend to allow the Godswood from the main rulebook despite its typical "North only" requirement. It makes sense to me to allow one considering the Houses here tend to still hold true to the Old Gods. Not that people have to take one, but it is a good buy considering the Bo3 House Fortunes.

So what shall we start with OP ?

>>3728708
All g OP, just offering a suggestion. That law is absolutely insane considering the rest of our stats.

>>3728715
+1. What's next boss?

>>3728726
You cant have crime if there isnt enough people to commit crime. That is the logic i get from that

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>>3728715
Up to 2 players! Welcome! Let's get started then. Lands would be a great place to start. We have 13 to start with. I should warn, I intend to use the food and feature homebrews from House Malroy. Pic related. You can choose to go without a feature multiplying your food score, but you may need to make up the difference with trade. It looks like you will need 12 food to start with, but this could easily fluctuate up or down depending on how well you do on The Trident.

Additionally, we will need to choose a House. From what I can see, there are actually 3 canon Crackclaw Houses that are fleshed out so little that they could easily fill the roll of a minor Knightly House. Please select a name preference:

>House Boggs
>House Cave
>House Pyne

>>3728744
Lets go with

>House Pyne

And when it comes to food i take it we will be relying on fishing and the likes like most of the claw.

>>3728726
>>3728730
Right? It really is. I figure if you're a bandit then this is probably not the sort of place where you would set up shop. No rich folk here.

>>3728730
Makes sense to me.

I dont think to much fighting actually took place on the point due to it being a generals nightmare due to it being comprised of hills, dense forest and bogs so hopefully our lands won't be TOO affected by the war. But 7 above it's going to be a tough go with those stats regardless

>>3728750
Some reasonable estate holdings that could provide food would include:
>Fishery
>Animal Husbandry
>Fur Trade
>Food Agriculture

Though I'd say you'd be the odd House if you were in the farming business in this area. Something to keep in mind with fishing, the Dragonstone banners such as the Celtigars won't be your biggest fans and have more ships than you could ever hope to contest with 14 power. Granted, this doesn't stop you from purchasing a river or lake. I'll save the wealth votes until after we lock in the land holdings just because some of the estate holdings have terrain requirements.

>>3728744
>House Boggs

As for our lands...

>Wetlands (3)
>Coast (3)
>Available Food Supply (3)
>Light Forest (3)

Odds are we get most of our food in clams, mussels and various fish in the swamps and coastline. The forest and wetlands make our land difficult for invading armies to march or make camp. Food supply modifies our likely to be wealth holding of a fishery.

>>3728772
That seems right

>>3728770
I'm thoroughly intrigued. Let's do this when ever you want.

>>3728806
I think OP is waiting for us to decide on lands before he continues.

>>3728809
Why i agreed with you to speed things along

>>3728772
>>3728775
Loving the wetlands, that should be fun. I'm not sure where the base food yield values came from for estate holdings, but I'm going to go ahead and assume that each point of wealth spent on the holding will equal 1 food. So the base fishery would net you 10 food with the available food supply, but fur trade or a fishery with processing or whaling would net you 20.

>>3728812
Maybe waiting for a few more players? I dunno. OP hurry back

>>3728809
No idea how to pick exactly still getting around to reading some rule book confound. Now sure what this runs off exactly?
>>3728772
But I am fine with this. Seems like enough options for stuff.

>>3728815
Hey your back!! That's how I've always interpreted it, then add in the available food supply.

>>3728806
>>3728809
>>3728812
Awesome, if you guys have a consensus then lets lock it in and move on to the wealth holdings. House Boggs in the bogs. I like it. Father's Homebrew compilation is here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qm-psOSbKz_FbT9XpMXcNfwuOLmSRokmevgt9jkMVzo/edit

A couple of things: you unfortunately don't have the influence for a Maester, but I will allow a Godswood.

>>3728830
Screw the old Gods. The Seven all the way

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>>3728837
That may complicate things with your neighbors considering Houses here typically keep to the Old Gods, but I'm fine with it if everyone else is. I can't think of a better deal at 5 wealth for Bo3 House Fortunes though. Dropping the OOSP PDF here. You have 15 wealth.

>>3728830
>Fishery (10) I think. I'm doing this from memory
> Salvage Operation (5)

>>3728842
I lied. Fishery + Processing for 10 (5+5), plus salvage operation for 5

>>3728844
Seems like a good option. I like the idea of having godswood. But I'm jot really seeing the bonuses in the pdf so not sure what it gives us exactly.
But I'm for fishery+processing.

>>3728844
Wreckers is halarious for an improvement on salvage operations.

>>3728841
>considering Houses here typically keep to the Old Gods
I like the Old Gods, most /qst/ houses go with the Seven, so a change of pace is nice.
>>3728844
>Fishery + Processing for 10 (5+5), plus salvage operation for 5
I'm fine with this, too.

>>3728844
Guess we're pirates now lol

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>>3728852
Ahh right, that one is in the main rulebook. It adds an entire 2D6 to House Fortunes with the caveat that you subtract 6 from your final result. So it essentially adds between -4 and +6 to your roll. It's more likely to swing towards the positive end just because I'm taking the best of 3 rolls, but the Dice Gods can be fickle at times. I'll likely be updating this part of the Crownlands map and adding in our House along with the other minor Houses. Any preference for location? Obviously it will need to be coastal. I'll admit, I didn't expect the fishing with the Celtigars prowling about, but I won't complain about a plot hook. Those tax collectors man...

>>3728855
While that could be fun to write, our Law score is too high for it.

>>3728865
With the fishery, I'd like say it's less focused on fish and more likely to focus on groups of men prowling the beaches at low tide to gather molluscs, crabs and other rock pool dwellers of various descriptions, as well as some more brackish living fish and frogs once you get into the swamps.

But the tax collectors...people go missing in swamps all the time you know...and muskeg swallows whatever you throw in it

>>3728868
Mhm
Leta go with those three for now to just get started.

>>3728874
I like this approach. Enough that I'm going to add an additional homebrew option under the Fishery.
>Pearl Hunting
The holding includes a dedicated operation for the locating and harvesting of valuable pearls.
Cost: 5 Wealth
Resource Gain Bonus: +2 Wealth

Test

>>3728875
I'll lock in the fishery+processing and leave the choice of Pearl Hunting or Salvage Operation open for a bit longer for people to consider. That leaves 2 items to cover before we roll into character creation. Defense and Power. For Defense, I'm assuming it's obvious that we are going to be settling for a tower for now, but with the option of upgrading in the near future. If anyone has any input for this then I'm glad to hear it. Otherwise, Power... we have 14 to spend. Again, I'm open to homebrew holdings and any other unique suggestions. I will say that cavalry doesn't make a ton of sense for swamp people, but feel free to get creative. Note: this is the only opportunity to purchase veteran+ units without getting into some combat. Which you will, very very soon. Not that it's always the greatest idea to do that. A support unit could help boost a trained unit of scouts/guerillas/archers considering that they let you reroll on the casualty table with house rules.

>>3728896
>Pearl Hunting or Salvage Operation
Pearl Hunting would make more sense thematically with the gathering operation.
>Power... we have 14 to spend
No preference other than scouts and archers, considering the terrain and people we have on hand.

>>3728896
Godswood? We do need help with our house fortunes roll more than we need the wealth bonuses at present. Expanding to the pearl hunting at the first opportunity though would be my vote.

>>3728900
Green Garrison
Veteran Personal Guards

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In case people aren't too familiar with the table. Green units are +1 power, trained +3, veteran +5, elite +7. I would suggest keeping it to about 2 units just because you lack the holdings to house a large army anyway. Also, I won't make the discipline modifier stack against you for things like scouts+archers or guerillas+whatever because that's just silly.

>>3728906
Veteran Geurillas
Green Support

>>3728906
Veteran Guerrilas
Trained Archers

>>3728905
Keep in mind, this story will start just a bit before the Battle of The Trident. A Garrison won't serve you too well there. I'll throw it out there now that you guys are out of the way enough from the path of the Northern Army that I don't intend on dicking you over and having your lands sacked while you're away.
>>3728903
Okay, I'll put it to a vote then. Please pick one:
>Godswood
>Salvage Operation
>Pearl Hunting

>>3728907
Trainer Support*

Geurillas because swamp people who are sneaky and hard to root out, very thematic for the point.

Support being the smallfolk who are self sufficient and used to looking after themselves.

>>3728914
>Salvage Operation
>Pearl Hunting
Not actually voting for both. I just don't want a godswood

>>3728907
Second.

>>3728914
>Salvage Operation
>Pearl Hunting

>>3728913
Changing to this then

Okay, I'm seeing 3 for Veteran Guerillas (7 power), 2 for Trained Archers (6 power), 2 for Trained Support (5 power). Would anyone be against me giving you 1 additional power and adding the archer type to the Guerillas? It would be Veteran Archer Guerillas for 10 power with the 5 power Trained Support for a total of 15 power.

>>3728914
>Godswood

>>3728913
This.
>>3728914
Godswood seems like the more interesting option.
Pearl hunting should be our next upgrade. And one that I'd vote for.

>>3728914
>Pearl Hunting

I'm going to leave this open for 10 more minutes for both the power options and the Pearl Hunting or Godswood question just because this is the most split that I've seen so far. I'm dropping Salvage Operation because I didn't see anyone vote for only that. If you voted for basically "not Godswood" then I'll have you down for Pearl Hunting.

>>3728941
Not going to look a gift horse in the mouth, but maybe have it cost us 1 population to represent the men leaving their regular lives behind to join the military?

And a few anons seem quite opposed to a godswood so to not tie anything,

>pearl hunting

>>3728966
This seems fair. You'd normally be able to 1:1 convert population to power if this was a regular house action. I'm normally hesitant to do that during initial creation, but 1 power for 1 population won't hurt.

>>3728971
Rather not though. If our forces are going to be split in the beginning then it's better to have 2 combat units.

>>3728979
Split? They will be 2 separate units, but they will both be at the same battle. If you have a support unit, then they will just not be on the very front line. Prince Rhaegar will have called all of his banners to him to head off the Usurper. You and all of your neighbors, dragon loyalists all, will be there in full strength. Due to your remoteness and law score, I can tell you that one will attack your home while you're away.

Wow, time flies. I think we've reached a clear enough majority on the Pearl Hunting over the Godswood. I'm a big fan of the Godswood, but I'm excited because I have some good plot hooks planned for setting up trade deals after the war concludes and this gives you something worth trading.

>>3728989
Oh man, what a spelling error. I meant to say that NO ONE will attack you while you're away. You have my word on that. It's a reasonable thing to understand in character anyway.

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In the interest of keeping this moving, I'm going to move on to character creation. We are currently at 1:1 for either:

> Veteran Guerilla Archers+ Trained Support
or
> Veteran Guerillas + Trained Archers

If anyone wants to tiebreak then it would be appreciated. Otherwise, who is the hero of this story? I'm going to throw some archetypes out there so that we aren't all over the place.
> The Fighter
Tried and true, I suppose. Front line type.
> The cunning guerilla
More of a stealthy archer type with some cunning. Not exactly a general though.
> The warg
Okay, I had to add this one. There is a lot that can be done with this. I was thinking warging into an eagle or crow to compliment scouting abilities and possibly intercept messages in the case of the eagle. The drawbacks being that not everyone likes a warg and you won't have the points available to be great at fighting. You will have a chance to make up for that eventually though...
> The stewart
Bad at fighting, good with numbers and negotiations. Not a bad thing for running a house.

*No matter what you pick, you'll end up with Head of House and Blood of the First Men for free.

>>3729063
> The cunning guerilla

>>3729063
>> The cunning guerilla
and a girl to boot

>>3729063
>The stewart
We nerd stuck with war but at least we should be good with battle strategies

>>3729063
>the cunning geurilla

>>3729071
We're the head of a knightly house, and girls cant be knights.

>>3729088
Two points, first a knightly house isn't a house led by a Knight. It's a house that has not been granted the full priveleges of lordship and is usually of less means than established houses. Two, girls can be knights too, in rare instances.

>>3729095
A knightly house is a house led by a landed knight. A knight given lands without the title of lord so yes, they are always led by knights.

And no. They cant. Name me one example.

>>3729095
If you want girl warrior play House Blacksand.

>>3729103
No it isn't. It's just a feudal house of lesser status, think barons.
I'll have to scour a sourcebook which I don't have right now.
>>3729105
It's dead tho

>>3729063
>More of a stealthy archer type with some cunning. Not exactly a general though.

>>3729095
To be honest, I've been operating under the impression that >>3729088 has the right of it. We are Landed Knights, but we are sworn directly to the Iron Throne due to a 300 year old pact. I've never heard of a girl knight outside of show Brienne of Tarth and I've done my best to drink that last season away.

However, I did some digging. And I learned something new. House Santagar is a Knightly House as well. The title for the land the Knight/Head of House holds being The Knight of Spottswood. Funny thing is, his heir is listed as Sylva Santagar. Odd folk, those Dornish. I would imagine that in such a case of a female heir, she would end up marrying a Knight to hold the title for her while still being the Head of House. So, in the interest of fairness, I will allow the main character to be a female if it gets a majority vote. It would certainly change some of my plans, but you are the players.

>>3729117
No. A landed knight is the lowest level of nobility. He owns land and a keep, but isnt given the right of pit and gallows. The title of lord encompasses every title from baron to duke to lord because GRRM was lazy, and scour all you want, you want find it. Unless of course you count the monstrosity of Jaime knighting Brienne but in that case your opinion is lower than dirt

>>3729127
>He knighted her to get between her legs.

>>3729127
>No. A landed knight is the lowest level of nobility. He owns land and a keep, but isnt given the right of pit and gallows
Yes this is true. It supports my statement that knightly houses isn't always led by a Knight. It's also mentioned that several houses were stripped off some of their lands and downgraded to landed knights for supporting the dragons during the rebellion like the Conningtons. I don't believe the survivors of those purges are always knights, and the ones left to inherit may not be one either.

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Right then, I'm going to call it for Cunning Guerilla.
Here's a rough ability breakdown, this is by no means finalized:
Age range: Adult
Status: 3 (this one is free, based on influence)
Awareness: 5
Cunning: 4
Marksmanship: 5
Stealth: 4
Survival: 3
Agility: 3
Persuasion: 3
Language: 3

That should put you at 260 exp. I'm assuming you're willing to knock Thievery down to 1. It would fit with the high Law of your lands.

Let's discuss Benefits. You have 3 available. As I said before, Head of House and Blood of the First Men are free. Some to consider:

>Night Eyes
>Double Shot
>Furtive
>Expertise (maybe in stealth or marksmanship)
>Sinister
>Heirloom (it would be a bow and I'll make it worth your investment)
>Other (please specify)

Also, I'm going to lock in >>3728941 at this point because it feels more thematic.

>>3729170
>Heirloom (it would be a bow and I'll make it worth your investment)

>Night Eyes

>>3729170
>>Heirloom (it would be a bow and I'll make it worth your investment)
>Night Eyes
>Furtive

>>3729170
Do you have the pic with all the benefits and flaws listed?
Also I did some wiki digging and found that knightly houses are called masterly house in da norf and house tallheart is led by a woman.

>Deadly Shot - Bows you would gain Vicious and Piercing 1

>Furtive - Reroll 1's on stealth checks, and add agility rank to stealth checks

>Sinister - During the first round of combat or intrigue, add 2+ to your respective defense

Also, I think we should ensure that we have at least fighting and endurance 3. But that's just me.

>>3729170
Deadly Shot
Night Eyes
Charismatic (we need one persuasion benefit at least)

>>3729170
>>Heirloom (it would be a bow and I'll make it worth your investment)
>deadly shot
>Night Eyes

Valarian steel bow give us anything really? other than I assume influence/or status?

>>3729173
Would you like to pick a third?
>>3729186
I'm looking for one, but I don't have anything on hand. Too many pages to make one quickly. If it helps, they start on page 74 of the core book which you can find from the links earlier in the thread.
>>3729197
As much as I love write-ins, I'd caution against Deadly Shot. At least in my opinion, it is a horrible benefit. Vicious doesn't make you shoot any harder and Piercing 1 is just not worth a benefit because it doesn't get multiplied by degrees of success.

>>3729211
Ok
Double Shot
Night Eyes
Charismatic

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>>3729209
It wouldn't be Valyrian Steel. I was thinking a Weirwood Bow. I still have to work out the precise stats it would have, but it would at least be "Extraordinary" quality and thus give +1 damage and +1 to marksmanship. Pic related.

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>>3729209
This is what I have for this. If anyone has anything better. Please post it.

We've a history I would rather we have the heirloom.

>>3729211
You make a good point I thought I was missing something and vicious added something.
That being said I think I may just do >>3729209
>Night Eyes
>>Heirloom (it would be a bow and I'll make it worth your investment)
>double shot

>>3729220
Thanks anon. I'll go with
>Heirloom
>Night eyes
>Attractive or Charismatic
Attractive is overpowered and overdone tho so I prefer charismatic

>>3729220
You are a saint, Ser. Thanks for posting that.

Locking in Night Eyes and Heirloom so far. Please vote for one of the following:
>Double shot
>Charismatic
>Furtive
>Sinister
Also, any preferences for names or would you like me to dredge one up? You also have a younger sister. I'm going to lock in male unless there is a strong desire to put it to a vote. If it helps, a possible romance option is a swamp woman who is certainly non-traditional.

>>3729237
Charismatic
>I'm going to lock in male unless there is a strong desire to put it to a vote
Do it, mostly because being the swamp girl sounds better

>>3729237
>>Furtive

>>3729237
>Charismatic (Convince)

No need for a vote, Male MC sounds great.

First names:
Cormac
Mortimer
Mikkel
Jon

House names:
Mire
Tyde
Muskeg
Clamm

Going with real simple first men sounding names.

Personally, I quite like Ser Cormac Clamm

>>3729237
>Charismatic
My preference is still female but I'd be fine either way

>>3729237
Sinister Ability
Everything about you suggests you are a dangerous individual.
During the first round of combat or intrigue, your opponents take –1D
on all Fighting and Persuasion tests made to attack or influence you.

Furtive Stealth 4 (Sneak 1B) Re-roll 1s, and add Agility rank to Sneak test results.
Wouldn't we need sneak? or is that included with stealth 4?


Charismatic† Persuasion 3 Add +2 to the result of Persuasion test.

Just leaving this here.
>>3729250
Agreed Male.
Jon sounds great to me.

>>3729237
I am fine with either Sinister or Double shot.
Given we've already chosen night eyes and Heirloom I think Sinister would work better. As it helps in more choices keeping us more well rounded.

>>3729197
I'm willing to drop your language down from 3 to 2 and increase your fighting, endurance, or will from 2 to 3. Keep in mind, this means you can't read beyond basic things like certain names and numbers. Could be fun though!
>>3729243
Okay, that's two people in favor of a female MC. It will come with some unique challenges (you aren't in Dorne), but I'm willing to write it if there is enough interest in it. Part of my intention was to create a challenge anyway. Please pick one:
>Boy
>Girl

>>3729257
Can we drop 1 awareness instead?
>Girl

>>3729257
>Boy

>>3729255
Yeah, sinister is actually great for both intrigue and combat. I think I would tie it in to your night eyes somehow. I didn't allocate bonus dice because I wanted to get the post out. I'll do that soonish.

>>3729257
>Boy

>>3729257
>>Boy
I would rather keep the language at 3. It seems like a terrible choice if we plan on reading. And a good way to get fucked when running a house. It doesn't seem like the kind of thing any knight wouldn't teach his kid.If he had the choice.
I also get we will be doing a shit ton of fighting.. and it doesn't make as much sense. But we should mostly be commanding and shooting our fucking bow from the back anyway. seems like to much meta gaming.

>>3729257
>>Girl

Vicious
Some weapons are so good at what they do that fighting with them
produces ugly outcomes. If you defeat a foe when wielding a Vicious
weapon, the consequences of defeat are always death. A victim may
burn a Destiny Point, as normal, to avoid this fate.

It doesn't help outright in a fight and may make it hard to keep people we want to take prisoner. If we were going full fighter, kill everything in sight I would rethink night eyes for this since night eyes are pretty weak by its self. I am sure we plan on using our guerrilla/archers units to the best of our abilty

>Boy

>Sinister


If only because I don't want to play as Brienne with a bow, and finding a suitable marriage for such a character would be difficult in the extreme.

Also, supporting Cormac Clamm so long as it's spelt Cormaic*

Sorry I missed so much. Fucking driving.

As for our stats, I'd argue that a broader spectrum might suit us better than having two 5 level skills.

Awareness: 4
Cunning: 3
Marksmanship: 4
Stealth: 4
Survival: 3
Agility: 4
Persuasion: 3
Language: 3
Fighting: 3

Blood of the First men helps with our low endurance, and with looming battle and bonus dice, there is no reason we can't upgrade our marksmanship relatively soon to that sweet godly rank 5.

>>3729259
You could. I'm hesitant to do so now just because we are talking about a character with night vision here, but if more people want to then sure. I did say they weren't finalized afterall. I didn't allocate points into those stats because I figured a cunning guerilla as the type to have more of a hit and run style and because you can gain +1D to fighting from stealth anyway. That, and your Blood of the First Men helps offset your endurance.
>>3729250
House was locked in as Boggs earlier. A canon house with virtually no background other than that they fought at the Trident. I like the first names though.

>>3729309
Ah. I didnt realize that was our house, I thought it was the house of our lord. Alright cool. Well in that case Bartimus or Bartholomew to go with the "B" theme?

>>3729303
Quit having fun participating instead of running Joe.

>>3729303
Welcome, Ser! I didn't picture a female MC as a possibility at first, but if it had enough support then I wouldn't have her as a Knight. She would be the heiress, currently in charge due to the recent death of her father, and would have more trouble with (un?)suitable marriage prospects trying to marry her and gain control. A Meera Reed type with less frog spears (perhaps) and more bow and no little brother.
That's another vote for redistributing stats a bit. I dropped Thievery down to 1 for the extra 50 exp because it goes with our high law score quite well. Does anyone else want to drop awareness or marksmanship down to 4 and pick up 3 other stats from 2 to 3?

>>3729322
I would rather keep both awareness and marksmanship at 5.
I guess if we have to drop one I would go with awareness. We keeping us decently proficient in sneaking up and destroying units in the dark of night.

>>3729322
I'm still in favor of dropping both to 4 for the start. Use the first 30 to improve agility to 4 for out bow damage, and the other 30 to improve fighting, endurance and either athletics or warfare.

But you're the QM so you ultimately get to make the decisions, so feel free to do as you wish.

A Meera Reed would certainly be a lot more fun than a Brienne, but looks like it's a male MC by the numbers so it's a bit of a moot point really. I'm liking the way this house is looking.

One small piece of advice would be to call for a clear vote for whatever it is your looking for, with the options given, and to do them one at a time as it seems like there are a few discussions going on at once.

>>3729257
>Girl
>Vicious

>>3729237
Male MC
Sinister

And I can get down with Cormaic as a name.

No real preference in terms of character stats however. I can get down with a sneaky guerrilla knight that's highly specialized. I think the challenge of having to make him more of a leader of the House after the Rebellion and dealing with the fallout of being on the losing side will be fun. Meanwhile playing as a warrior during the war itself should be fun as well.

I'm interested OP, pick up a trip, should be fun.

>>3729355
I mean sinister sorry

>>3729322
Drop awareness to 4,

Increase fighting, healing (swamp remedies) and athletics

>>3729345
>Use the first 30 to improve agility to 4 for out bow damage
wat? Still learning the way things work. If it works that way, I wouldn't be opposed to it entirely.
>>3729358
This does not sound bad to me.

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>>3729356
I also like the idea of a sneaky type of knight. The man who was knighted not for chivalry but as more of a customary thing. Maybe the night eyes and sinister have a connection to the squishers? Swamp myths are always quite spooky!

Also, I don''t know if you have any heraldry OP (you do really need a name), but heres two that I made up quick.

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This one is inspired by the show wiki on house boggs, with swamp roses being the charge on the shield.

>>3729374
Improving an ability from 2-3 costs 10 EXP, and going from 3-4, 4-5 and so on costs 30 EXP. So by extension, dropping a skill from 5-4 nets us 30 EXP to spend (Or 60 in mu suggestions of dropping both marksmanship and awareness)

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>>3729379
I think I prefer this one personally. Swamp roses are different and not something I'd expect from the Crackclaw Point (since its such a Reach thing), and would make for an interesting juxtaposition to the MC and the House itself.

If this is taking place right before the Battle of the Trident really likely the MC is aware of, or bares witness to Brynden's brother Donold dying and Royce's father, Ser Vance Redward, dying as well and the Malroys in generally getting destroyed. Maybe not directly, but aware of the sheer devastation done to the Crownlands host.

Hoping this gains some traction.

>>3729389
I agree. Should be intresting. Waiting on OP to just finalize some things.

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I'm quite excited for this and hope OP is ready to have a good run. I've always imagined Crackclaw Point to look something like the West coast of Canada/Vancouver Island, with a touch more swamp/bog. Should be fun to be a sneaky character, especially one who leads a band of guerrilla fighters, and the fact that everyone and their mother has been trying to conquer the point since the Andals started invading just makes it a fascinating place. I've got to hit the hay here, but keep up the good work OP, and I'm looking forward to playing.

>>3729358
>Drop awareness to 4,
>Increase fighting, healing (swamp remedies) and athletics
I am fine with these. But instead of healing (since we have a support unit) we could invest it into warfare. Seems like a better option.

>>3729345
I appreciate the advice. I suppose I just didn't want anyone to be left out in the initial generation. Honestly? I originally had a lot more house and character stuff pregenned, but ended up opening things up for votes anyway because I was interested in what people would do. I'm going to call the gender vote for male at this point as it has a clear majority. Ser Cormaic Boggs, Knight of the Boggwood. I'm going to drop awareness to 4 and pick up fighting 3 and 2 other stats, but I'm leaving Marksmanship at 5 because it feels like a bloody crime to go lower after the vote for a heirloom bow. I'm also going to call it for Sinister. I know it's tied, but Sinister is more interesting narratively and Charismatic is kind of garbage unless you're picking it up just to get magnetic later... which feels weird for a stealthy character. Okay!

This is going to be last post of the night from me. I'm on EST time and it's quite late. I really appreciate all of the feedback and participation. This was more than I'd hoped for. I'm hoping to have the opening post for the quest up at 7pm EST tomorrow (with a trip). With it will come your finalized character stats along with some more background fluff. Feel free to continue discussing. I'll catch up on any additional feedback or ideas during the day tomorrow and I'll do my best to incorporate them before we go live.

Some things to consider:
>What sort of melee weapon do we use? Part of the reason why I didn't commit to increasing athletics is because we could very well be using something like a frog spear with agility as the base damage.
>Coat of Arms preferences
I'm partial to the one with the seashell so far. It's not too flashy and fits with our estate holding. What are you guys using to generate them?
>Our Knighting
I already have some backstory for this one that I'd like to use because it ties into some other plot points. It was during a fight against the Kingswood Brotherhood.

Thanks again everyone!

>>3729424
Melee Weapon
>Hand Axe

We're comfortable in the woods, its multi purpose and we are rather poor. Paired with a small shield.

I'm also digging the shell, but maybe make the whole thing brown?

>>3729424
Can we get a tomahawk or throwing axe?

>>3729424
>Melee weapon
spear or handaxe w/shield

>Coat of Arms preference
this one >>3729379

Also happy sinister won even if I was asleep for the vote

>>3729443
I want an Arakh..but that seems a bit too out of character.
>Melee Weapon
Bastard Sword is my vote. Simple and clean long sword. Not opposed to hand ax
As for the two-character stats left.
>Athletics & Warfare
Seems best that we really get into fights and commanding our men especially with guerilla archers as our specialty unit.

Can we get some cool rumors going about our House? Attackers seem to disappear/ vanish in the swamp? swamp gods/magic?

>>3729458
>>3729424

Also pls dont drop awareness

>>3729424
>I'm also going to call it for Sinister
Aww, I am late to the party and would've voted for Furtive. But this I can also get behind.

>Spear
>Hand axe
Why not both?

And don't frog spear and bastard sword require specialization?

>warfare
>agility (developing into quickness and balance as well as that frog spear)

As for coat of arms, >>3729379 please. It is just that good. Everything doesn't have to be about clams and pearls (and please don't name the tower after pearls).

>>3729424
Hand axe sounds great, with a big round shield. Feel like we should play into the clawmen being very First men in nature. Think it'd be sick if he wore a bear skin, have a whole story about how Cormiac tracked and killed it.

I'm partial to >>3729379 for the coat of arms personally.

I think we should go with your background for knighting, give us some backstory to learn about.

Also I'd like to suggest that Cor's mother also be a Boggs, a cousin to his father or something similar (like Tywin and Joanna). Just because it'd be different and not give us an immediate step up with a major alliance right off the bat. Make things hard, why not.

>>3729424
And I just read about Salvage ops and Wreckers. Damn you all anons for picking pearl hunting over it. This would've been so fucking rad.


So, what about our rawbacks, fellow sers?

I'll pitch some suggestions.

>Disturbing habit
Perhaps an unsettling stare or fiddling with his dagger or obsessing about the fucking squishers. Take your pick.

>Flaw
Will (Brash). Or Healing (Insensitive).

>Marked
Some horrible scar or another. Pockmarks, wolf lip, port-wine stain.

>Threatening
If this whole nasty dude shtick with the earlier benefits isn't overplayed yet in your opinion.

>Fear
Heights. Just for the hell of it.

If you decide to pick two (I would), then we get another benefit.
I'd personally return to considering Deadly shot. I know it is crap mechanically, maybe our kind QM could offer us something to unfuck it.The original rules have already been bent a bit anyway. Besides, if you think about it, Sinister only really has flavor going for it so it is not like we're minmaxing here.

Other than that I can advocate getting

>Expertise (Bows)
Nuff said its great.

>Furtive
Can't really get it unless we invest into 1B Sneak if I get the rules right.

>Danger Sense
Thematic. Deny surprises and reroll 1's on initiative.

>Fast
Kiting potential.

I've thought about Warfare 3 and we probably don't need it right away. That experience is better spent getting some specialties like
>Bows
>Sneak
>Quickness
>Spears
>Track

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>>3729581
And finally our goals and motivations. Unless QM planned to cover it after our knighting is ready.

My suggestion is
>Goal: Power
>Motivation: Hatred
Because fuck that Connington glory dog.
>Virtue: Honest
>Vice: Cruel
Ties in our benefits and potential flaws as well as a suspicious amount of Law in the lands. The borders of our territory are marked by corpses of strung bandits with crow-feathered arrows poking out of their eyeholes or something macabre like that.

oh fuck, every time i missed this, fuck me

>>3729424
>>What sort of melee weapon do we use? Part of the reason why I didn't commit to increasing athletics is because we could very well be using something like a frog spear with agility as the base damage.
I vote we go frog spear + bandolier of blades/axes
>Fits our background
>Frog spear dmg is Agi+1 (so that's three extra damage over a handaxe)
>Can be wielded in two hands for +1 dmg but that's trash because see below
>Can be thrown (handaxes can also be thrown)
>Can be dual-wielded with a dagger or handaxe for +1 defense or a dirk for a further +2 dmg
>We don't get many spear-wielding characters on qst
And since we've gone with Sinister I think it really suits the image of our dark-eyed killer appearing from the shadows with a long wicked spear in one hand, an axe at his belt and a selection of blades for different purposes slung across his chest.

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can i still join? pretty please

>>3729424
>>3729581
Fear has some nice flavour to it but I like the idea of Fear (Open Water) - we're comfortable in the bogs and streams of our territory but after a near drowning when caught between the cliffs and the high tide we find it hard being near the ocean anymore.

If we go with a second drawback I'd vote either
>Sickly with a hacking cough from the boglung we caught as a child, or;
>Threatening, we're a Sinister guy after all
If we do that we should definitely put the additional benefit toward Double Shot - it's just great, so much better than Deadly Shot

For the two remaining stats I vote
>Warfare 3
>Maybe Deception, Endurance, Will or Knowledge 3

Finally, we I assume we'll be allocating our Specialty Experience next thread so throwing some ideas out for that
We get 80 as an adult IIRC
>Marksmanship - Bows, obviously, Bows 3 if we want Double Shot (which we should)
>Fighting - Spears
>Persuasion - Intimidate (if we with the drawback that forces us to start intrigues with Intimidate)
>Any of the other obvious choices - Sneaking, Charming, Bluffing, Commanding, Empathying, Noticing, etc

>>3729680
>Sickly with a hacking cough from the boglung we caught as a child
I probably stepped over it initially thinking the penalty was more severe than it is.

If we pick Threatening then we should consider investing in Persuasion for good measure.

And I totally forgot the part of rules about specialty experience.
>Bows 3 - 30XP
>Spears 1 - 10XP
>Intimidate 1 - 10XP
>Sneak 1 - 10XP
>Track 1 - 10XP
>Quickness 1 - 10XP or Notice 1

>If we do that we should definitely put the additional benefit toward Double Shot - it's just great, so much better than Deadly Shot
Yeah, its great mechanically, lets get it.

>>3729687
coughing is rough, i have it lately, at night i cant sleep as keep having those vomit-triggering very unpleasant cough

>>3729708
Not coughing out lungs though. I know how bad coughing can get myself, no sleep, choking and tearing up from it.

>>3729709
poor you and me. Seriously, how can i contribute now?

>>3729715
Oh now I recall. I ignored the drawback thinking of a coughing malady exactly because it would interfere with our stealthiness. I would have no issues with a different condition. Like for example suffering through malaria during childhood that left him with bouts of shortness of breath, tiredness and/or shivers.

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Lots of great ideas and discussion. I'm going to start finalizing things on my end now. You'll have a preference for axes. I'm dropping awareness to 4 and raising fighting, athletics, and deception to 3. You're probably going to need deception, especially depending on how a couple of the votes go. Warfare will stay at 2 because this is your first proper battle. You should be okay with your veterans though. It would be fitting to raise the stat after the fighting is done. The specialty dice will be allocated in a way that makes sense. I wanted to wait until we had a more clear vision of the character before I handled them. We can certainly take a drawback, but I'm not going to add more benefits. I'd like to leave plenty of room for growth with benefits later.
>>3729715
We will have the first actual story post in about 10 hours and there will be voting shortly after that.

>>3729747
>I'm dropping awareness to 4 and raising fighting, athletics, and deception to 3
>not agility
Color me disappointed. We're overall pretty dexterous, probably wield a spear with damage based on agility. But I guess I can live with it.

>We can certainly take a drawback
I think an adult character has to take one drawback.

>>3729722
my humble opinions:
shiver may be perceived as devil controlling?
shortness of breath is fine
tiredness seem too calm
maybe go old school, the disease that Caesar have

>>3729747
freaking cool, shame that i miss the creation, TO me, creation is more fun

>>3729722
I mean, mechanically its just a penalty to Endurance vs poisons, diseases and the like. There's no penalty to Stealth so any cough would be the sort of thing we could force ourselves to suppress when necessary.

A bad bout of malaria works too. The whole miasma/malaria/'mala aria' history was actually in the back of my mind when I was suggesting Sickly. Hell, malaria was even known as marsh fever back in the day.

On the other hand, if we go for Fear (Open Water) after a near-drowning then you could tie them together - his lungs and immune system as battered as his mind from the day they were flooded with sand and salt water.

>>3729747
>We will have the first actual story post in about 10 hours
Keen
>You'll have a preference for axes
and frog spears fingers crossed for hand axe+frog spear, a 10/10 combo

>>3729765
>>3729767
As we're allowed one drawback according to QM, I'll stick to Disturbing habit, as I like its narrative effect better.

>>3729770
>Disturbing habit, as I like its narrative effect better
Support, think it fits the overall character better.

>>3729759
You actually only have 3 agility. You and your troops have a ranged combat focus. You have a heirloom bow. You'll be carrying melee weapons and will certainly have opportunities to use them, but they're more secondary weapons than primary.

If you guys want childhood illness then we can go with that. I'm not going to give you a chronic cough. It'll just lower your hp by 2, making you less robust than others of your blood, but no less than any non-first man would be as an adult. It would explain your focus on marksmanship. You were a frail child and found it easier to practice shooting over training in the yard.

>>3729786
we stealth archer now.
I am stupid but how does heirloom bow works? dragonsteel bow?

>>3729786
>You actually only have 3 agility
Ah, alright. I was under the impression it was at 2.

>>3729795
It'll be a weirwood hunting bow with some customized stats:
Damage: Agility +1, Piercing 1, Long range, Powerful, 2-handed, +1 to persuasion test results when it is on hand, no bonus dice needed for training

>>3729659
+1 for bandolier of knives

>>3729786
Eh I'd rather go with Threatening. The health bonuses from First Man are hard to pass up. That and while we have MC's that are threatening we've never had one that their whole crux is being the bad guy. Between sinister and threatening I think we have the basis for an interesting character that can differentiate himself from the others and hold his own post war when he'll need to be head of house with his reputation until he's actually able to do it with skill. Just my two cents on it.

Also I definitely support >>3729514 idea of having a Boggs mother. We know it's common enough to happen and we are a very lowly House. Having her still be around as the matriarch of the family I for one think would be fun and different where usually the MCs familiar ally is an uncle or brother. Maybe have a cousin from a younger brother of hers that serves as our second in command of the guerillas as well?

>>3729919
Getting Hayford flashbacks eh dad ?

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>>3729919
>Also I definitely support >>3729514 # idea of having a Boggs mother. We know it's common enough to happen and we are a very lowly House. Having her still be around as the matriarch of the family I for one think would be fun and different where usually the MCs familiar ally is an uncle or brother. Maybe have a cousin from a younger brother of hers that serves as our second in command of the guerillas as well?
Do you have my notes?? I changed her from a Brune offshoot to a Boggs after I saw anon's suggestion. She is very much still around. And our/her cousin was in charge of the guerillas until we gained our Knighthood. He's also still around. The last living family member is a younger sister around marriageable age who has always dreamed of living in a castle and attending a proper court.

Pic related is a rough estimate as to what our eyes look like. I feel their predatory appearance matches up well with Sinister and Night Eyes. We are fairly unremarkable in appearance aside from that. Average height. Short, auburn hair that is a shade off from brown. Some scruff perhaps. The beginnings of a beard, but not a full one. It would grow in a little patchy and our cousin would have a good laugh at it.

What do you think of investing in animal handling later on and getting the animal cohort benefit in the form of the nastiest mutt you can find? Each one of them will be the only creature the other really gets along with.

>>3729941
is threatening a drawback? if so +1 from me

>>3729965
Threatening
You exude a menacing aura.
Whenever you engage in intrigue, you must use Intimidate first. In
addition, you take –2D on Charm and Seduce attempts.
I am for it really ties in with our character. Especially if we have to take one as an adult. How old are we exactly?

>>3729975
thanks
i cant be bother to read another set of rpg rules, my head is full of that shited

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>>3729941
>Do you have my notes??
Haha great minds and all that. I like the family set up, the young lady also sounds promising, if nothing more than as a tool to secure our power. The cousin I was thinking of an age with Cormiac, but if he's out mother's cousin, maybe older veteran, probably fought in the War of the Ninepenny Kings, never married but has a bastard he's grooming to take over the guerillas in the future? I think I like old grizzled cousin more. Just throwing ideas, ser what sticks. Our tower is definitely going to be a bit cramped however.

I have some light notes on the Clawmen Lords for Malroy, shoot me a DM sometime on Twitter and I'll send them over if you'd like to use them.

Looking forward to the day Brynden and Cormiac face off in an archery contest.

>>3729965
Sure is. It's a real tough one too, Cormiac is going to be all sorts of an asshole. But to be honest that sounds fun as hell.

>tfw your name gets chosen :)

The question is now, what kind of asshole is he going to be? Cold like Bordain? Sellswordy arrogant like Brynden? An ice cold bastard like Mervyn? An out and out evil man like Royce Redward? God the possibilities are endless.

>>3729988
sounds like a good way to stop waifu overkill
if anons dont go for the rape train that is

>>3730024
Eh maybe not rape. But i can see him being unbothered with his wife's happiness and gladly fuck whores and whoever he wants.

>>3730018
Ice-cold bastard with a cruel streak for those who deserve it (and its easy to get on his bad side).

>>3729988
I'm going to have to actually make a twitter then. Working on the google drive right now. I'll post a link for everyone when it's ready. Probably right before the opening scene. I see enough support for threatening to go ahead with it. This should be fun to write. Going to have to channel The Hound for at least some of it. I'll make it come off as unintentionally threatening at times. Don't want to write a total edgelord.
>>3729975
19. The current year is 283. You were Knighted in 281 at 17. Born in 264, so 2 years older than the Lannister twins.

>>3730030
opening scene in T-hrs?

>>3730024
It'll make courtship difficult for sure. Especially with the more noble ladies. Good luck marrying up. I'm not going to write anything rapey. Just not comfortable with that.

>>3730035
>I'm not going to write anything rapey
good

>>3730033
At ~7pm EST. 6 hours.

>>3730038
ah, middle of the night for me. sux
ill read it with my morning coffee
have fun

>>3730018
We gotta fill out the rest of the alignment chart. Not really but I think it's something fun that's happened over the years.

Lawful Good - Ser Landon Grallner
Neutral Good - Lord Dustain Karban
Chaotic Good - Lord Brynden Malroy
Lawful Neutral
True Neutral - Lord Artys Harrock
Chaotic Neutral
Lawful Evil - Lord William Bordain
Neutral Evil - Ser Mervyn Reynold
Chaotic Evil

Chaotic Evil descends too much into edge territory and Euron Greyjoy, of which we are not. Case could be made for chaotic neutral? But that usually plays as being more of a dick than sinister and threatening.

Either way, I think playing Cor as the "baddie" is a good direction. I like that his special unity is going to be the guerillas because that can really play into him being known for using less than savoury tactics.

>>3730074
don't you think Sinister and threatening leads to chaotic evil?

>>3730116
Well, you could be unintentionally sinister and threatening. I'm intending to channel The Hound to some extent. It actually gives quite a lot of leeway morally speaking. Everything from riding down a smallfolk boy almost ironically, to needlessly risking your life for a girl that despises you because she accidentally made you feel a certain way that even you don't quite understand. We will see where it goes. Character and House sheets are done. You can find them at the link below. All stats are finalized.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1C1EKKAiDasK3Rgq_UEjGL39i3XkFtbdU?usp=sharing

>>3730260
I wonder why you have decided to fill that much on your own.
From specialties to goals to weapons. What's your reasoning?

I am fine with the selection but we, players, have already voted for a few things that aren't on the sheet.

>>3730260
>https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1C1EKKAiDasK3Rgq_UEjGL39i3XkFtbdU?usp=sharing
Btw, could we homebrew our support into a more of a forager/hunter kind of unit swapping their Endurance skill for Survival? We did partially hire them out of our population after all.

>>3730442
What's missing from the sheet? I don't want to ignore the results of a vote.

The only things that I thought I filled out myself were the goals/motivations/virtues/vices, the equipment, and the specialties. We had open discussion on the equipment in particular, but there didn't seem to be too solid of a consensus other than a desire for hand axes, which you now have. The armor is the same stuff your troops are wearing. You are all more than welcome to buy different stuff like spears and sturdier armor when you're next in a market. I allocated the specialty dice myself in a way that I thought made sense, as I said I would. The goals etc can be changed, either narratively or through a vote if players dislike them enough. I honestly think those tables are a little limiting, but I tried to encapsulate the mood of the thread with them. Basically, I didn't want to drag this out any longer over minor things.
>>3730459
I don't see why not. I was already using the homebrew stuff from the House Malroy documents. They replace endurance with animal handling, but we don't have more than a few horses for the immediate noble family so it isn't doing you any good. I'll switch animal handling for survival and update the sheet.

>>3730528
Alright. If you say that we should buy the gear then we will.
I thought that there was some bias in the thread towards getting a frog spear. And it requires a specialty in spears, which we don't have.
We haven't discussed specialties much because you haven't asked for our input on that part of character generation. At least that is my impression.

Same thing with goals and motivations. Personally I expected to check your knighting story first before providing input.
Tbh I can get behind your choices for them, its just that your filling them out on your own was uncharacteristic of such games that's all.

>>3730552
Ahh, I can understand that. I know I haven't made this clear yet, but there are events surrounding the background of your knighting that actually have some unresolved plot points that we won't be getting to right away. Probably not in this thread at all. I didn't want to give too much away on that front yet. I can see some narrative choices on that front that could completely change your goals and motivations in particular. I know this is overly vague, but I'd like to keep it that way until after this combat-heavy part that we are going to start with.

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>Year 283, Month 7, Spring.

“Stop that.”

“What?” your cousin, Barth Boggs innocently inquires. Your second in command and most definitely not a Ser. A man who has seen at least 40 years come and go, but allegedly not 50. He taught you much of what you know about your particular brand of fighting until you eventually surpassed him. He blames his age, the hypocrite, and “those bloody eyes.”

“That awful bloody humming. You know what you’re doing. You sound like a drunken, deaf septon.”

“You would know,” he shrugged. This again. In truth, you didn’t know what you believed. Your people traditionally keep to the Olds Gods, but your time around Kings Landing as a young adult exposed you to The Seven, much to your more pious relatives’ chagrin. You once heard an Essosi merchant say that all of the gods were simply the many faces of Death. Experience lends some weight to that view; you find that people pray the most just before they die. The merchant certainly did.

“You know, there was a famous septon named Bar---”

“This again! Gods Cormaic, but you are so much like your father.”

The two of you continue slowly riding through the Targaryen Encampment located just southeast of Lord Harroway’s Town. It seems to grow by the minute as Loyalists from Dorne and the Riverlands join the Crownlands host that made camp yesterday. Your own men are on the outskirts about 30 minutes away. 200 good men, currently being watched by Barth’s favorite bastard, Bodger Waters.

>>3730704
You finally arrive in front of the largest pavilion in the encampment, a gaudy thing of black and red with dragon patterns throughout. Two heavily armored knights stand at the entrance. “Identify yourselves and state your business,” demands the Reach knight in green with the red bowman on his coat of arms.

“This is Ser Cormaic Boggs, Knight of the Boggwood. I am his second, Barth Boggs.” Your cousin has the good sense to address you more formally around outsiders.

“They’ve beginning now. You’re late. Ser Cormaic is expected, but you are not,” he tells your cousin. “You will have to wait outside.”

“Cousin, return to our camp and ensure your son is making proper preparations.”

“By your leave, Ser.”

>Please give me 3 rolls of 3d6 for our support unit’s preparations.

Rolled 1, 1, 1 = 3 (3d6)

>>3730731

Rolled 4, 2, 6 = 12 (3d6)

>>3730734
lmfao
>>3730734
lets not get all 1's..

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>>3730734
Anon pls. That's like a 0.5% chance of happening.

>>3730762
Its because our family still follow the old gods. We have incited the wrath of the Seven. We must repent and build a sept!

Rolled 5, 2, 6 = 13 (3d6)

>>3730731
Is this bo3

>>3730775
Crit fail override I think

>>3730775
It is and the DCs were 9 and 12 so you pass, but I'm going to add something in to reflect the sheer rarity of those triple 1s. You'll see when you get back to the camp.

>>3730788
All of our guys are going to be drunk off their asses...

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>>3730791
And shit happens when you drink.

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You take one last breath of spring air, tainted by horse shit that it is, and quietly slip into the command pavilion. The interior is a storm of noise and activity. Pages frantically bustle about relaying orders while their noble Lords and Knights bicker around the most exquisitely wrought command table you’ve ever seen. You vaguely recognize the massive table cloth for a sewn map of the Riverlands. There are several squires moving carved figurines about the table as reports of troop movements on both sides of the battle lines. While the assembly before you by no means represents a majority of the nobles present, the pavilion is packed. You recognize the Plowman of Darry and the Red Fish of Mooton. Positively menacing, these Riverlands Houses. You also see a surprising number of Point Houses, with the Brunes and Crabbs most prominent---

“Florian the Fool arrives at last,” calls a very royal voice from the center of the map table. You stop in your tracks, feeling very much caught. Fucked even. Why did you have to wear the black bear pelt? Prince Rhaegar Targaryen, resplendent in his jewel encrusted armor that looked as if it could buy a small kingdom, looks you over with a carefully measured neutral expression. Several of the other nearby Knights and Lords look over to you from their planning and conversations. A few of those who meet your eyes, predator's eyes, quickly busy themselves again with uncomfortable expressions.

You attempt your best impression of a bow and say, “I am at your command, my Prince.”

Prince Rhaegar smiles, though it never reaches his eyes, and inclines his head slightly for you to rise and approach. “It grieved me deeply to learn of the deaths of Ser Myles and your own father.” Ser Myles Mooton was a squire and companion of the Prince and probably the only reason he knows your name. Myles was of the same age as you and one of the only true friends you made outside of the swamp you call home when you traveled throughout the Crownlands before your knighthood.

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>>3730816
The meeting continues where it left off:

“My Father, King Aerys, has commanded under penalty of death that no Northerner set foot on the Red Ford of the Trident.” There is some muttering at this as flash of… something crosses his face and before he continues, “My Lords, I summoned you here over your peers because I have a difficult task to entrust to you. Each of you has either knowledge of the land,” he inclines his head towards some of the Riverlands Houses, “or skill in less conventional fights,” he gestures over to the clique of Crackclaw Point houses.

“My Lords, our host numbers upwards of forty thousand. Forty Thousand. But the Rebels are advancing at a pace that will see them control the river before we are prepared to repel them.” His voice briefly loses some of its fire as he says, “I will do my utmost to end this rebellion here before the Realm needlessly loses any more good sons and fathers. You will ford the river and advance north to harry and delay the Rebels while our vanguard prepares," he says this with a nod to a dark haired man wearing black and purple. Buy us the time we need and then withdraw from the path of the van.”

“I won’t presume to dictate your methods to you. It is up for each of you to decide how you will approach. Dismissed.”

The Knights and Lords present begin to leave the tent. Some are talking together in groups and some are clearly intent on going at it alone. Will you…

>Go at it alone. You don’t want to share command or be slowed down.
>Approach another House. Options include Mooton, Darry, Goodbrook, and Ryger of the Riverlands. The Brunes of Dyre Den and Brownhollow as well as The Crabbs and the Hardys.

Please pick one option.

>>3730871
>Go at it alone. You don’t want to share command or be slowed down.

>>3730871
>>Go at it alone. You don’t want to share command or be slowed down.

>>3730871
>>Go at it alone. You don’t want to share command or be slowed down.

Calling it, thanks. Writing...

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You decide to go at it alone and walk past them to your Courser, a magnificent golden specimen, the finest of your House by far. You won her at a small archery contest hosted by the Hayfords two years ago. You begin to contemplate your approach as you ride back to camp. You could take the lads up to a hill or forested area and rain arrows down onto advancing columns. It doesn’t get much more direct than that. Of course, you’re more likely to draw the ire of a pack of angry Knights, or whatever passes for such in the North. No doubt some of your more gallant peers would argue that’s precisely the bloody point. Another thought does cross your mind… There may be more to gain here than just glory. You and the lads could try to sneak around and raid their camps. They may be lightly defended if the Loyalist scouts aren’t exaggerating the advance. Or maybe not… Reports of enemies in the camps should force at least someone to redeploy. Right?

>Direct approach, in the path of the advance. More chance at glory. Higher chance of encountering overwhelming numbers.

>Indirect approach, raid the supply trains/camps. More looting, perhaps less glory. Higher chance of getting stuck behind enemy lines, but most of the Knights will be preoccupied.

>Write-in.

Please choose one.

>>3730944
>Indirect approach, raid the supply trains/camps. More looting, perhaps less glory. Higher chance of getting stuck behind enemy lines, but most of the Knights will be preoccupied.

>>3730950
+1

>>3730944
>>Indirect approach, raid the supply trains/camps. More looting, perhaps less glory. Higher chance of getting stuck behind enemy lines, but most of the Knights will be preoccupied
May as well make it tough on them. And do as much damage as possible. And loot. We may as well gain some gold...

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Alright, calling it for the indirect approach. I'll start prepping for that.

>Back at the camp…

“We wasn’t doing nothing wrong, Ser. Them Hardy boys see you leave camp, right? So they come over 'ere and star mucking about. We ‘ad to do something, Ser. We ‘ad to.” Bodger Fucking Waters. You glare at your increasingly sweaty cousin. The man was a conundrum. He was as adept at foraging for food as a pig on truffles. Yet he weighs twenty stone. He can organize a camp. Yet he can’t unfuck his own tent. He was remarkably good with herbs and thread. Yet he does stupid shit like this. This is the Captain of your Support Corps.

“Did you prepare the meals?”

“Yes, Ser. Is a nice stew on the pot. It smells right perfect, it does.”

“Can the lads leave this evening?”

“Yes, Ser. We sharpen the arrows and blades proper like. Jus’ as you said, Ser. We did errything you ast us so we thot---”

“You thought.”

“Yes, Ser.”

>Bodger and his boys started celebrating early and got in an altercation with some men-at-arms of House Hardy. Minor injuries all around. You’re going to need to meet with House Hardy in the near future to prevent a blood feud when you get back home. I’ll leave it open for discussion for what to do, if anything, with this lapse in discipline. It won’t be happening now because you and the lads are heading out.

>>3731023
>Support Corps succeeded at raising your Guerillas' melee and ranged damage by +1 for the coming battle.

Alright, I'm going to need 3 rolls of 5d6 and 3 rolls of 3d6. Time to be sneaky.

Rolled 4, 2, 1, 4, 4 = 15 (5d6)

>>3731064

Rolled 6, 5, 6 = 17 (3d6)

>>3731064

Rolled 6, 5, 4 = 15 (3d6)

>>3731064
mhm
>>3731075
ohh we sneaky sneaky

Rolled 3, 5, 3, 5, 4 = 20 (5d6)

>>3731064

Rolled 6, 4, 5, 3, 6 = 24 (5d6)

>>3731064
lets do a lil better this time.

Rolled 5, 2, 1 = 8 (3d6)

>>3731064

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>>3731071
>>3731075
>>3731091
>>3731096
>>3731098
>Veteran Guerillas Stealth
Rolled 17 vs DC 12/16.
Success, 1 Degree vs veteran scouts, 2 degrees vs trained archers

>Ser Cormaic Boggs Stealth
Rolled 21 vs DC 12/16
Success, 2 Degrees for both.

You and the lads make haste to cross the river before nightfall. Once you ford the river, you begin making your way parallel to the Kingsroad on the eastern side of the road. You pass by a seemingly endless column of mounted knights and foot in the process. It looks as if the entire Vale is emptying. They are making better time than the anticipated Northern Houses.

You finally reach what appears to be a forward outpost guarding the path to a camp tucked away in a valley ahead. By your count, there are 200 men in your vicinity. You'll need to get through them to go any further unless you intend on leaving your men behind. There is a company of what appear to be scouts by the road preparing to head out with a disciplined look about them and a company of archers making camp near the outpost. The archers could possibly ring the bell at the outpost if they aren't dealt with first, but the scouts are more prepared to fight or flee.

Which would you like to attack first?

>Scouts
>Archers

Also, I'm going to need 3 rolls of 2d6 either way.

Rolled 3, 5 = 8 (2d6)

>>3731161
Scout

Rolled 1, 1 = 2 (2d6)

>>3731161
>>Scouts
blind them so they slow.

Rolled 1, 3 = 4 (2d6)

>>3731161
>Archers

>>3731177
>>3731182
>>3731185
>Ser Cormaic Boggs Warfare test
Rolled 8 vs DC 6 for Veteran Guerillas

I'm going to leave voting for a few more minutes, but I'm going to need 3 rolls of 5d6 and 3 rolls of 8d6+1.

Rolled 6, 1, 3, 3, 5, 1, 5, 2 + 1 = 27 (8d6 + 1)

>>3731202
Wouldn't it be +2 since successful sneak and good prep?

Rolled 1, 6, 5, 1, 2 = 15 (5d6)

>>3731202

Rolled 6, 5, 5, 6, 4 = 26 (5d6)

>>3731202

Rolled 2, 2, 1, 4, 3 = 12 (5d6)

>>3731202

Rolled 3, 4, 4, 3, 3 = 17 (5d6)

>>3731202

Rolled 3, 4, 1, 4, 2, 5, 1, 3 + 1 = 24 (8d6 + 1)

>>3731202

Rolled 6, 6, 2, 2, 6, 3, 2, 2 + 1 = 30 (8d6 + 1)

>>3731202

Rolled 3, 6, 1, 2, 2, 1, 5, 1 + 1 = 22 (8d6 + 1)

>>3731202

>>3731208
The +1 is just because of the quality of your bow. You and your men both got an extra +1d6 for the successful stealth test. The prep from your support corps will add to your final damage results.

>>3731220
>>3731212
nice..you lucky bastard

>>3731230
ahh thanks. know for the future. its 5 dice + 3 bonus?

Calling it for scouts and writing. Brutal rolls.

>>3731240
Normally it is 5 dice + 2 bonus, but you gain +1D attacking from stealth. So a 26 for personal shooting and a 26 for the unit's shooting.

>>3731258
mhmm and 3 degree's of success is the max for a battle/fight?
Fuck we just shat on those scouts.

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>Veteran Guerillas vs Veteran Scouts
26 vs CD 7. 4 Degrees of Success
19 damage vs 9 hp
Unit is destroyed.
>Ser Cormaic Boggs vs Ser Ryam Rivers
26 vs CD 7. 4 Degrees of Success
18 damage vs 9 hp
Yeah, he’s dead.

The scouts seem better trained and prepared compared to the archers. You can respect that. It’s too bad that your respect means they’re going to have the dubious distinction of being amongst the first casualties of the Battle of The Trident. You creep up to the edge of the wood line and spot a knight on the road amongst the scouts. Time to give the signal. Nock. Breath. Draw. Loose. You hear the crack from here when your arrow reaches out and pierces the Knight’s armor at the weak excuse for a gorget for his splint mail. The woods come to life around you as the knight is thrown from his horse and a hundred arrows rain down on the shocked veterans, destroying them utterly.
The archers start grabbing their bows and loosing arrows in your general direction in an undisciplined fashion to no real effect. (No shit, their commander just failed his command roll.)

Can I get 3 rolls of 7d6+1 and 3 rolls of 4d6? No more stealth bonus so we’re back down to normal dice.

Rolled 1, 4, 4, 6, 2, 3, 4 + 1 = 25 (7d6 + 1)

>>3731300

Rolled 2, 1, 1, 5 = 9 (4d6)

>>3731300

Rolled 6, 1, 4 + 1 = 12 (3d6 + 1)

>>3731300

Rolled 1, 3, 5, 2, 5, 1, 5 + 1 = 23 (7d6 + 1)

>>3731300

Rolled 1, 6, 3, 4 = 14 (4d6)

>>3731312
Fixing this

>>3731312
Fuck forgot one of the dice

Rolled 4, 4, 6, 1, 3, 1, 5 + 1 = 25 (7d6 + 1)

>>3731300

Rolled 5, 3, 2, 5 = 15 (4d6)

>>3731300

>>3731321
22
>>3731324
15
I think we did pretty damn well boys. Considering we will get bonuses still from the prep work which is nice.

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>Pate of Gulltown vs Ser Cormaic Boggs
Rolled 9 vs CD 11 (9 base, 2 from light woods cover) Sinister was activated.
Failed
>Ser Cormaic Boggs vs Pate of Gulltown
Rolled 23 vs CD 6
4 Degrees of success
21 damage vs hp 6
That's a solid kill.

The fat balding man in chain mail and a skullcap bellowing at the archers finally gets them to form up properly. To your surprise, the man truly leads by example. He sees you in the tree line and quickly looses an arrow right towards you. Unfortunately for him, he faltered slightly upon catching sight of your eyes in the setting sun. The arrow flies just past your head. You quickly return the favor to greater success and the man goes down in front of his men with an arrow still sticking out of his chest between the mail.

>Trained Archers vs Veteran Guerillas
Rolled 3! vs CD 9 (7 +2 from woods)
Failed
>Veteran Guerillas vs Trained Archers
Rolled 15 vs CD 7
2 Degrees of Success
9 damage vs 9 hp
Unit is routed! (due to commander death+disorganized)

Something has absolutely unmanned these archers. You’ve never seen anything like it before. Their shots were beyond piss poor as if they were merely playing at war. Your men have no such issues and the return fire routs them.

>Can I get 3 3d6s and 3 6d6+1? Penalty for moving targets.

Rolled 6, 1, 6 = 13 (3d6)

>>3731401

Rolled 5, 6, 6 = 17 (3d6)

>>3731401

Rolled 1, 2, 5, 2, 4, 3 + 1 = 18 (6d6 + 1)

>>3731410
Well damn..
>>3731401

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Getting tired and I have to run to the airport in the morning. This'll be my last update of the night. Pic related was the archer roll last round. I couldn't believe it.

Rolled 6, 3, 5, 3, 4, 4 + 1 = 26 (6d6 + 1)

>>3731401

Rolled 4, 1, 1, 6, 2, 3 + 1 = 18 (6d6 + 1)

>>3731401

I think that'll more than cover it in this case. You only had to damage them. Writing...

>>3731421
lol, well that's nice.
if the reports are actually accurate we've destroyed a decent amount of their campsite. At least enough to stealth into another fight. We've should have caused a decent amount of mayhem by doing this.
Should we continue is the question...

The two score remaining archers break off into a full sprint back towards the camp. Your men methodically mop them up before they get too far. You, however, were more concerned with that bell at the outpost. One very brave or very stupid archer makes a beeline for it, but your literally nail him to the wood outpost wall before he can reach it.

>2 units destroyed, outnumbered 2:1
> +3 Glory gained!

The sun is almost down and you begin to see firelight from the nearby camp. You begin to plot your next move.

That's it for tonight guys! Thanks for playing! Feel free to discuss any ideas for your next move. Or names for your units. I probably won't have a post out until around 9 or 930pm EST because I'll have guests over.

>>3731441
How much can we fuck with outcome of the war?

>>3731441
Is it after every battle that we use the survivers table for +/- survivor training? For the 1d6

>>3731442
In truth, very little here. We are a group of raiders in a battle with close to 80000 total fighting men. You will have an opportunity to do something more impactful for the war after this battle concludes, but it will be a path that you all have to choose to commit to. It won't break canon or change the outcome, but it will fill in the gaps in one major area of the lore. I don't want to spoil too much on it, but some unresolved plot points tied to our Knighting will be coming up at about the same time.

>>3731449
I was just thinking about that too. It's supposed to be after every battle, but I'm worried about making your unit totally broken. Your support unit allows for rerolls on the casualty table too, effectively making it best of 2. I think I'll allow it with the caveat that you're not going to be able to increase a unit's stats above 5.

Can I get 2 rolls of 1d6?

Rolled 4 (1d6)

>>3731495

>>3731495
Just wanted to see if we could scoop up land of fallen crackclaw lord

Rolled 3 (1d6)

>>3731495

>>3731503
Obviously not through war by the way

>>3731495
Thanks for clearing that up.
Seems interestingly op if we keep it up.

Alright, boys seems like now is when we will actually see the benefits of night eye even more. They won't be able to really find us, and we will have a bonus die so long as we sneak just fine.

They should have a lower guard up since they should be counting on the sentries to let them know if anything is coming their way + night time.

We are not really scouts but do we have any idea what/who is at the campsite?

>>3731441
we should quick loot!
at least the commanders

>>3731556
I agree.
But more importantly, We could really use this to our advantage. In a way that sets us up better. If we get the chance we could capture a knight or two. hopefully an heir to even a small family. Use him as leverage later to not get totally fucked when we lose the war. Or simply more wealth. Either way, we should try and capture anyone "important" we don't outright kill immediately. Which may be hard to do

>>3731556
>>3731560
And lets not just loot but disguise our troops/ourself and our commanders with the colors of the fallen. We did get a little bit of Deception dice pool, right? Pretend to be that group of archers.

I also think we should look around not just for the next target but also for any allies who got this deep into the territory and coordinate a combined strike.

>Use him as leverage later to not get totally fucked when we lose the war.
I like this idea a lot. But I don't know, QM, how far of a timeskip do you plan to do after the battle is over? Will we play post-Rebellion?

>>3731499
>>3731506
>>3731495
So its intact with no promotion, right? I understand the OPness concern but our troops would have to stay undamaged and roll 6(5) just once to benefit so it is balanced by that.

>>3731587
>lets not just loot but disguise our troops/ourself and our commanders with the colors of the fallen
Anon's got it right

Btw, which terrain is our guerrilla unit specialized in? Marsh or forest?

As for names,
>Sparrowhawks
or something more malevolent like
>Bloodsuckers

And maybe Bodger's Badgers or just Badgers for the support troop.

>>3731601
I like "Badgers" we are already sinister, I think that adding a so-called scary name will add anything

>>3731601
>The Badgers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJXQTPkO32A
Yes.

>>3731441
We should definitely press our advantage through the night but I'm not sure what the best target is.
If we strike hard at the supply train we might be able to pick up some sweet loot, maybe even enough good quality bows/blades to score a unit equipment upgrade without spending the wealth.
On the other hand a series of hit and run attacks might be more disruptive to the war effort and could allow us to draw some potentially ransomable enemy officers into a nice ambush. Wed need to be careful though - with our limited numbers any attempted ambush against enemy knights etc (or anyone really worth ransoming) could end very poorly.

I'm against the idea of dressing in enemy uniforms unless we have a very good plan for it. The night is more than enough for us ro achieve surprises and dressing in the enemy uniform is exactly the sort of unsporting behaviour that leads people to hold a grydge after the battle is over.

>>3731601
>The Sparrowhawks
>Bodger's Badgers
Love it

>>3731664
>and dressing in the enemy uniform is exactly the sort of unsporting behaviour that leads people to hold a grydge after the battle is over.
MC isn't your typical honorable knight and prince Raegar specifically picked us as professionals in unconventional warfare. Screw unsportsmanship.

I didn't mean wearing their uniforms without a plan, but we should definitely strip them and keep at hand in case it comes useful.

We got rid of the scouts for a larger force. What kind of advantage can we gain from it? Apart from slipping into rearguard and raiding the rebels' supply lines like you yourself have said I have no other major ideas.

>>3731672
>but we should definitely strip them and keep at hand in case it comes useful.
Yeah, I'm happy to do that. But only put them on if come with an idea that's worth it. Something where the uniforms will actually add a significant benefit beyond simple surprise which we can already pretty gain by attacking from the shadows or bushes. Bonus points if we ensure all witnesses are dead.

Rolled 63 (1d100)

>>3731503
Highly unlikely that you could do so without fighting. You're even lower in status and influence than some of the other Crackclaw Knights/Lords. Your family consists of Boggs on both sides so it would be reaching to press a claim. Blood feuds on the Point do occur so war is an option if it's wanted. The Crown is unlikely to interfere in what they'd chalk up as inconsequential squabbling or cultural differences. However, this typically doesn't happen when outside enemies are a threat and you have a few threats right now. I'll have to make a point to flesh out a map more before we get back to our lands.

>>3731517
We don't know yet, but there will be some awareness rolls depending on our approach that could help with that.

>>3731556
I don't see why not. My roll here will be for your loot.

>>3731587
Excellent idea, Ser. And to think I was going to start off with you pushing the bodies off the road.

>Can I get 3 rolls of 3d6 for our deception? I'm still not updating until tonight, but I'll have the results up in the opening post.