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Welcome everyone!

This quest follows House Boggs, a small Knightly House of Crackclaw Point. We are currently at the beginning of the Year 284, at the concluding moments of Robert's Rebellion. You’re playing as Ser Cormaic Boggs, Knight of the Boggwood. You’re a 19-year-old Knight with an emphasis on unconventional and cunning strategies and the leader of a band of guerilla archers known as the Sparrowhawks. You are the Head of your Household, though your small house holds little power and influence itself. Perhaps it's time to change that.

Last thread, you dealt with a bunch of politics and were finally welcomed back into the King's Peace.

House resources and character sheets can be found here: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1C1EKKAiDasK3Rgq_UEjGL39i3XkFtbdU

I try to make a point of sending a tweet out when resuming here: https://twitter.com/CormaicB
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>>3861080
You look to Maeve who’s still on the bed waiting for you. Apparently, she’s more than willing to take Atia’s departing comment seriously. You’re not. “You should probably go,” you say with a sigh. “I have a feeling my night has only just begun.”

“As you wish,” she says with some vitriol before striding briskly from the room. You couldn’t begin to guess who she’s most angry with right now.

You find Atia in the kitchens of all places, eating leftover desserts. It’s a unique sight. You don’t think you’ve ever seen someone look so simultaneously beautiful and angry while stuffing their face with lemon cakes. She sets down a cake when she sees you, but says nothing.

“I sent her away, obviously. It was never my intention to do anything without you,” you say.

She washes her mouthful down with some fruit juice. “But it was hers. I knew it. She’s talked of you as if you used to be her betrothed or something. She was looking to drive a wedge between us and put herself in my place, this I know,” she says heatedly.

“Has she? Driven a wedge, that is. I don’t doubt the rest,” you say cautiously.

“I don’t know. You can be such a stupid man sometimes, husband. Why did you think this would work? It’s as if you were thinking with your cock,” she says in disbelief.

“You didn’t seem to mind doing a fair share of the work on her in bed,” you point out. “You’ve also talked of ‘handmaidens’ from your past before and you’ve made certain remarks about Ciara…”

She rolls her eyes. “Just because I can appreciate a woman’s beauty doesn’t mean I intend on fucking her. I've told you I only want you. As for my past? They were mostly for instructional purposes and some stress relief. It’s common for girls of noble birth in my culture. Again, it doesn’t mean I want that now that I have you. I did what I did with Maeve to keep myself between you and her. I may have had some sympathy for her, but I’m not so foolish as to trust her. She’s too devious.”

You frown at her. Something just isn’t adding up with all of this.

>Can I get 3 rolls of 6d6? Part Cunning, part Knowledge on this test.
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Rolled 6, 5, 6, 6, 6, 5 = 34 (6d6)

>>3861084
"If you really didn't want to do this, you would have had me empty my seed in a bowl and gave her a funnel."
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Rolled 5, 6, 3, 2, 2, 1 = 19 (6d6)

>>3861084
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>>3861084
Also I'm starting to think she's a closet bisexual and is trying to hide it out of some sort of shame.
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>>3861106
>>3861110
>>3861113
Wow, that first roll. I might as well start writing with that.

Atia isn't in the closet at all. She's perfectly open with thinking women are attractive. She just prefers to only be intimate with her husband because of her own views of romantic love.
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>>3861106
lol well damn. Almost a crit there.
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>Lots of success

You sit down at the table with her. Thankfully this part of the house is completely disserted at this hour. “This isn’t the first time you’ve said ‘of noble birth’ to me when referring to yourself. I don’t mean to be insensitive, but aren’t you a bastard? Is this some sort of mistranslation or is there more to this?”

“It’s complicated,” she says after a long pause. “I’m really not sure what I am. It entirely depends on who you ask. I try not to give it too much thought…”

“Atia. This may be more important than you know. Tell me what you mean,” you say.

“Well, you know all about my Papa. He’s a magister and they are basically the same as your nobles, I think. Mama, Lady Daena by your descriptions, was definitely a noble by any stretch of the imagination. I suppose the trouble is in the interpretation of whether I am legitimate or not. I don’t know all of the details because Papa hates talking about her, but my brother Daegon told me that I am legitimate by the laws of Volantis if not the laws of Pentos. This was years ago, when I was still little. Well, littler,” she adds with a wistful smile. “Daegon still isn’t legitimate though. He’s my half-brother. Mama had him on her own five years before me with a Volantine man. I haven’t seen my brother in years… he loves me so, but he’s too restless to stay in one place and hates Papa for taking me from him. Cormaic? Are you feeling well? Are you listening?”

Your ears are ringing. How is this only coming up now? You aren’t a learned man. Not from your own choice, but simply because you lack a formal education. You had no maester or real steward and taught yourself your letters. Your father didn’t care about books in the slightest and your mother is only slightly better about it than he was. But one thing you’ve always been fascinated with were the tales of the old Dragonlords and their descendants. There is only one woman you’ve ever heard of that had the name Daena. Daena Targaryen. And that isn’t half so terrifying as the line she spawned starting with her own son, Daemon Blackfyre. The first of his name, and most certainly not the last. You’d heard the male line was extinguished in the War of Ninepenny Kings, but why would there be such emphasis on the word ‘male’ unless some of the daughters and granddaughters of the house still lived on in their exile in Essos?

“Daena. You said Lady Daena. And Daegon isn’t exactly a subtle name either,” you say numbly. “Did your mother have a family name?”

“Blackfires something or other, I think. Daegon mentioned it, but I was very young. Like I’ve told you, Papa kept me very insulated. I only knew that I reminded them both of Mama. I wish I had a chance to know her…”

“And where is your brother Daegon now? Is he close? I need to speak with him. Is it Blackfyre? The name he gave you for your mother,” you press.
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>>3861343
“Yes, what’s the one! Why? Are you seeking to push a claim on my inheritance like he was?” she asks playfully before shrugging. “I wish I knew. I do miss him. The trouble is, he doesn’t know how to read and doesn’t keep to one place for too long. He just likes to go around sword fighting and chasing women. Or used to… Last I heard from him was several years ago. He was infatuated with some Dothraki woman and sought to make her his own. Maybe he’s finally found true love! Some maester from your Oldtown that he enslaved wrote the letter for him,” she adds offhandedly.

Your hand is shaking a little as you pour yourself some wine despite the hour. “Atia… this is huge. And it may be extremely dangerous. Why would you keep this from me? Do you have any idea what that name means? What it is to our history? Gods you even wore a red dress to court today.”

She cradles her bump protectively. “So what? Papa said Mama always wore red. Just like the red priests do. Cormaic, you’re scaring me. It’s just a name to me… I don’t know Westerosi history. I just know my courtly courtesies and how to haggle. Do you know who the last Prince of Pentos was or who will be returned in the next Triarch elections? I think not. Unless Papa left the histories out of my tutoring on purpose… he would’ve known more of Mama’s family.”

“It sounds like we both have some reading to do. It would also help to talk to your father and your brother if we can find him,” you leave the “if he’s even alive” unsaid. What kind of madman would ride off after a Dothraki woman?

“I would love to go see them! Only… Ciara is worried about the baby right now.”

“I could go without you,” you offer.

“You really shouldn’t,” she warns. “Papa doesn’t exactly play fairly and may try to trick you. He will be more amenable with me by your side. And I’m not sure if Daegon knows I’m married. It may be best if you weren’t the one to break the news to him.”

>I didn’t think the roll would go that well! Gotta take a break for an hour to get a couple things done while you all digest this.
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>>3861348
Well fuck. On the other hand, if Varys really is a black dragon then we're basically besties.
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>>3861343
>reading,reading,reading
AH, HOLY FUCKING SHIT
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>>3861348
Is this an AU then where Varys sister had more children then just Faegon?
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>>3861348
>Be swamp goblin
>Mary wannabe Targ
>Is actually a Blackfyre
Haha, holy fuck. This isn't going to end well. Or it's going to end REALLY well.
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>>3861441
I vote we go all-in on pretending to be Cerseis creature while actually working with Varys. Hopefully his end game will see us given a kingdom.
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>>3861446
I'm all for subverting the Lannisters but as soon as ANYONE outside of Varys catches wind of what's going on our heads are going on a pike.
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>>3861348
The real question is does Varys know and if he does are all we going to get as confirmation is that sneaky eunuch smile? If he doesn't do we tell him or keep this so deep in our pocket it never sees the light of day?
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>>3861446
That was always the plan. Do her bidding when we can and gain her favor. While also having Varys whispers in her ear when it comes time for her to stand with us and her own lunacy to give us clear favor. While also doing Varys work and once we can digest a domain we do what we must.
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“We will have to see how you’re feeling over the next few months then. If it seems too risky, then we can go after the baby is born,” you allow. “I have no idea if I’m going to be able to sleep now, but there is much to do tomorrow. I should probably see our guests off and then I will also need to make sure the gold is delivered. Apparently, the first payment kicks in after tomorrow. We will be set back almost the entirety of Ciara’s dowry if we are late. Will you be joining me?”

She frowns upon hearing of the gold. “Sneaky. Hmm. I suppose I will, but all of this noblewoman talk has given me some ideas. Perhaps I’ve been too eager to leap into your arms if you think me so willing to readily accept other women lurking around our bed. If I’m to be a proper noblewoman, then that simply won’t do, no? So, I will come back to bed, Cormaic. To sleep, nothing more. You shall have to court me like your Westerosi women for a few days at least,” she declares.

You grumble, but there’s little to be done about it. Might as well let her have her fun and be glad this didn’t end up any worse. She makes a point of wearing small clothes to bed, but she does still end up letting you wrap your arms around her before you drift off after your long day. You awake the next morning quite hard against your little spoon. She stirs and makes a mock gasp before moving away and covering her mouth. You sigh. Lovely. It’s really too bad her only inspiration for a scandalized noblewoman had to be your prudish sister.

You dress and go to see your mother and Lady Maeve off. Atia pointedly doesn’t make an attempt to do the same. It may be a while yet before things cool off between them. A few of your men will be escorting them to the docks along with Maeve’s ridiculous crossbowmen. The send off is as uneventful as it is awkward. Ciara warmly embraces both of them and they all speak cheerfully together, but then they are both standoffish and formal with you. Your mother likely still unsure of her standing after being rightfully told off for overstepping her authority and Maeve… well, you don’t know what she’s thinking, and this isn’t the time or place to ask. You really do hope Atia is wrong about her machinations to drive a wedge in your marriage, but it does make a deal of sense as well.
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>>3861498
You next order of business is this gold delivery. It needs to be done today. The only problem is, Lord Gyles also knows it needs to be done today. You find yourself wishing you had the space to have more men on hand here. On one hand, if there was ever a moment to fuck with your resources, this would be it. You doubt King Robert will wave your debts just because you told him you lost it on the road to the Red Keep. On the other hand, if there was ever a time to strike at your villa and those close to you, then this would be the time for that as well. You could split your Sparrowhawks between both, or you could use the excuse of Atia’s name day to host a small feast with Westerlands guests like Lord Brax. It would require you to spend a little gold though. Especially for the tastes of more esteemed guests. Only a complete fool would attack an event with well-established knights present.

How will you handle this?

>Split your Sparrowhawks between the gold and the villa
>Send them all with the gold and rely on a feast to cover the villa instead (costs 1 wealth)

Where will you be?

>At the villa
>With the gold
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>>3861502
>Send them all with the gold and rely on a feast to cover the villa instead (costs 1 wealth)
>At the villa

We should stop haemorrhaging gold soon as we're out of here but until our wife is gone from this vipers nest I'll relax
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>>3861502
>>Split your Sparrowhawks between the gold and the villa
>>With the gold
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>>3861502
>Split your Sparrowhawks between the gold and the villa
>With the gold
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>>3861502
>>Send them all with the gold and rely on a feast to cover the villa instead (costs 1 wealth)
Spend maybe 1.5 wealth for extra entertainment, and good wine so they may stay the night?

>With the gold

I sure hope we kept our voices down last night, and Atia knows to keep quite about this new development.
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>>3861502
>>Send them all with the gold and rely on a feast to cover the villa instead (costs 1 wealth)
>With the gold
It will give her some space and time to play noble with others. I am sure we could make it back in time to enjoy at least the end of the feast. And while I trust that our men would fight until everyone knows it and make a big deal, the local police could already be on the other side.
But they won't arrest a noble for anything as they would a noble's men.
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>>3861502
Actually, this is a pretty good vote to leave up overnight seeing as it's going to heavily affect tomorrow night's run. I'll close it tomorrow and we will pick up at around 7pm EST.

>>3861435
You lost me on the Varys sister part, but the answer is probably a no. I'm not really trying to do major alterations to canon. There are too many fun and open ended what-ifs in the setting to world build with for me to feel the need to change things drastically. For example, the tons of ???s in the family tree here:

https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/House_Blackfyre
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>>3861526
One of the theories about 'Young Griff' is that the child is the Pentoshi cheese mongers son with Varys sister. The one who died and he kept her stone hands. It would explain why the Golden Company a bunch of blackfires would be willing to help out Connington.

This also explains Varys constant undermining of everyone, he's trying to keep as much chaos going on so that When Aegon comes, at the head of the golden company it's as a conquering hero.
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>>3861551
Well shit. I never looked at the Young Griff Theories page. It does make a good deal of sense, but then again I am the one who thought he was being clever by coming up with the "there could totally be more Blackfyres around" idea myself. Safe to say the Varys relation wasn't my angle since I wasn't aware of it, but Atia and Faegon would be significantly less distant cousins if he's actually a Blackfyre.
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>>3861502
>>Send them all with the gold and rely on a feast to cover the villa instead (costs 1 wealth)
>>With the gold
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>>3861502
>Send them all with the gold and rely on a feast to cover the villa instead (costs 1 wealth)
>With the gold
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>>3861502
Could we get some decoy wagons sent out?
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>>3861691
I can work something similar to it into the posts, for sure. It's a good idea. The gold is going to have to be in sacks tied to the horses because of the difficulty of moving wagons around in the city, but decoy sacks would be a nice touch.
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>ITT:
>Mary Sue and Gary Stu, the Questening.
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>>3861842
>>Send them all with the gold and rely on a feast to cover the villa instead (costs 1 wealth)

I'm assuming we have that 1 wealth on hand? I'd reckon sending the men waving a banner of House Boggs and Baratheon if we can find one. Additionally, a white banner of peace. That way if anyone sees us along the road they'll remember, and ti makes anyone fucking with us look very very suspect.

>tfw when Boggs' ID isn't green anymore

>>3861853
Meh. Our wife is distantly connected to the Blackfyres. Robert likely won't give a fuck. Not to mention shes a bastard from descended from the female line if I understand correctly. That's a relatively weak claim that realistically we just keep hidden for 20 years until we don our dragonhelm and raise the banner of the black dragon once more!! Fuck the Targaryens, LONG LIVE HOUSE BLACKFYRE!!
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Alright, calling it for:

>Send them all with the gold and rely on a feast to cover the villa instead (costs 1 wealth)
>With the gold

First post should be in about 1 hour.
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>>3862343
We should make sure to vet the people and their servants at the door.
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The gold is the obvious target and will need all of the protection you can give it. Atia’s nameday is tomorrow, but you’ll have a feast in her honor tonight. Anders and his kin will be invited along with any other friends you may have about the city. Well, not your friends, but friends of your family. Your friends are all dead or will be with you during the escort. Still, arranging a feast catering to the tastes of noble guests is no small feat, doubly so on such short notice.

“Ciara. Good of you to join me. I thought you would be pleased to know that I will be hosting a feast for Atia’s nameday tonight and would like you to invite all of your little friends, especially the knights, to attend. Surely that would be welcome news to those Westerlanders staying in inns of dubious comfort,” you say genially.

“That’s wonderful news, brother! I think it’s about time you hosted Lord Brax and introduced your wife to more appropriate folk. Only, isn’t her nameday tomorrow? I haven’t seen any preparation being done for a feast either,” she says with a slight frown.

“It is tomorrow, but the feast has to be tonight. It’s an auspicious day for feasting, wouldn’t you say? Don’t fret about the preparations… oh, actually, do fret. You’re in charge of preparing everything. I have to see this gold shipment to the Red Keep. Don’t worry, you did well enough last time,” you assure her.

Her hope and optimism, gone. You feel a brief stab of pity for her, but the truth is, you really do need her help in this. You find yourself severely lacking in competent retainers, especially those that can read and write when need be. Hopefully you don’t age her prematurely before the wedding. That would be unfortunate.
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>>3862431
You send Ciara off with several servants over through the Dragon Gate to the north of Rhaenys’s Hill since the inns the Brax clan are bedded down in are just to the west of it. You press some crossbows into the hands of Ciara’s half dozen servants. Not that impressive, but they’ll do in a pinch. No one need know they’re more likely to shoot their horses out from under themselves. More than enough for the part of the city she’ll be passing through. The Street of Silk on the way to her destination is aptly named, and not for their looms. Rich men have beggared themselves in some of the finer pillowhouses along the row, though there are plenty of more modest establishments as well. Ciara had asked you worriedly if it was possible Anders paid them a visit. In truth, you couldn’t say. You know you likely would’ve at five and ten if you were wooing a noble maiden who couldn’t give you any relief, but he does seem a more pious sort, and acutely aware of his bastardy at that. Perhaps he wouldn’t want to bring another child into the world to be stuck with the label he’s had to grapple with. You couldn’t say for sure, though you said none of this to your sister and instead settled for reassuring her that pious Seven worshippers don’t partake in such establishments, especially those that have the pleasure of the company of finer women and their own wedding to look forward to as well. You think it was a good enough answer for her.

You set off with your Sparrowhawks after all of the needed preparations are made and Ciara is back with Anders. More guests will be by soon enough and you don’t intend to get stuck observing formalities. You’ll be taking the Iron Gate of the Rosby Road by the water. It’s the most direct route. The trouble with taking a winding path in a city like this is it’s more likely to get you boxed in by any one of the number of gangs that must be active, especially in a time of diminished lawlessness. Atia sees you off with a worried look, even going as far as to tie a red ribbon around your arm for luck. You don’t have the heart to tell her this day may go far past the blunted steel of a tourney.

Your men strike your colors as you enter the gate, looking every bit the disciplined elites they are in their uniforms and with bows at the low ready as their palfreys move down the main street running east to west. You ride with Aodhan at the head and a smattering of pack mules take up the rear. The mules themselves are laden with sacks of rocks from the shoreline, set to bulge just enough to be noticed. A tempting target for anyone bold enough to strike a procession as armed as your own. The gold itself is amongst the packs on the backs of your own men. This lot has fought together long enough to be loath to leave one of their own behind even if the packs weren’t so valuable.

>Can I get 3 rolls of 6d6 for Awareness (Notice)?
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Rolled 3, 2, 6, 4, 3, 6 = 24 (6d6)

>>3862434
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Rolled 2, 3, 1, 6, 1, 1 = 14 (6d6)

>>3862434
Lucky lucky
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>>3862438
>>3862439
A higher roll really won't make a difference. You hit all the DCs. Writing!
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>>3862468
Lol well thank god..cause I sure as well wasn't lucky
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Aegon’s Hill and the Red Keep are prominent on your left, even from your place amongst the bustle of the main street. Everything seems fine from that end, but you’re less sure of the dwellings and side streets on your right. Flea Fucking Bottom. Nestled in the shadow of Rhaenys’s Hill, a blight upon the city even in more prosperous times, now you can smell more of it than you can see. If any a place needed more Goldcloaks it was this one, and there isn’t one in sight. It’s eerily silent even, a sensation you’re all too familiar with. It’s like the woods just before your own men struck down pockets of rebels during the war.

Your men must be thinking the same thing, warily eying the side streets and preparing for the fight that seems inevitable. You can see the intersection up ahead; south for the Street of Looms and your ultimate destination, north for the stench of Pisswater Bend and the shadow of death. Your eyes are the first to pick out the foe amongst the alleys, the shadows proving to be no obstacle to you. Dozens tucked away to your right and probably many more just in front of you. Thankfully they don’t have you completely surrounded yet, but they will in a matter of moments.

You let out a sigh and glance to Aodhan. “A mass of them to our right and up ahead, thinking themselves so fucking clever in the shade. Dozens to the right, maybe a couple hundred up ahead. Why send professionals when you can dump the whole chamber pot of this shitty neighborhood on our heads with word of easy gold.”

He spits in disgust. “They’re welcome to try, Ser.” He whistles a tune and the rest of your men are a twitch away from unleashing hell if need be.

You have some options here. You could personally take the group to your right by surprise with a decent enough chance to send them scurrying if you hit the right marks. Your own men would be less useful due to the shadows hiding that lot. They could press on ahead and engage the shitstorm you’re about to stir. Or you could all press on together and engage your foe as they come. Either way, they’ve lost the element of surprise and it’s more a question on whether you want to move forward together and risk getting surrounded or put yourself out more by going for maximum damage in the opening clash.

>Engage the gang in the shadows to your right before they can encircle you while your men press on to targets they can hit
>Move with your men, safer for you, but will leave them with more to contend with
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>>3862483
>>Engage the gang in the shadows to your right before they can encircle you while your men press on to targets they can hit
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>>3862483
>>Engage the gang in the shadows to your right before they can encircle you while your men press on to targets they can hit
They will have lost the element of surprise. And it should give us a chance to throw out a volley or two. We havent had a chance to throw out our double shot yet. Should be nice. One shoting anything that looks like it can fight from the center of our pack of sparrows.
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>>3862487
>>3862492
Slow night eh? Going with:

>Engage the gang in the shadows to your right before they can encircle you while your men press on to targets they can hit

Can I get... 13d6+1 for marksmanship? (First 4 are for your men)
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Rolled 6, 2, 5, 3, 5, 6, 2, 6, 3, 5, 4, 6, 1 + 1 = 55 (13d6 + 1)

>>3862576
Seems like it. And that's a lotta dice.
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Rolled 1, 4, 2, 1, 2, 1, 4, 2, 5, 2, 5, 2, 2 + 1 = 34 (13d6 + 1)

>>3862576
Yeah apprently slow af.
Surprising
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Rolled 3, 4, 1, 2, 6, 4, 3, 2, 2, 2, 6, 3, 1 = 39 (13d6)

>>3862576
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Rolled 6, 1, 2, 6, 6, 2, 2, 1, 1, 1, 4, 3, 2 + 1 = 38 (13d6 + 1)

>>3862576
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>>3862581
Hoo boy, I hope that’s enough
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>>3862600
I mean considering we are fighting street gangs. We will have killed plenty some will run, thinking it's not worth it. Then again it will be a vicious cycle for them. We will continues to kill more and more and they will run more and more.

Could we find a way to use double shot? Or has it already been implemented automatically?
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>>3862581
>>3862587
>>3862596
Writing!
>>3862605
I didn't factor it in on the attack vs the unit because of how insanely unlikely it would've been to hit the DC, but I'm going to just drop an extra dice and run with it this time because that was my mistake for underestimating your favor with the dice gods.
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>Ser Cormaic Boggs Double Shot Marksmanship (Ambush) vs Trained Criminals (Starting at Disorganized)
>Rolled 29 vs DC 26 (+20 to DC for attacking an entire unit alone)
>1 Degree of Success
>Unit routed, then destroyed

You whisper your plan to Aodhan. He smirks and whistles to your men. The start to proceed up the road and you put on your helm. You quickly turn and start launching arrows two at a time and as fast as you can manage down the shaded alleyway, taking the scum forming up there completely by surprise and shredding through their tightly packed ranks. The shit they’re wearing that passes for armor is useless against your onslaught and before long, what's this group thinks better of trying their luck with you. You hear screams and bellowing from the side streets, but they're done.

>Sparrowhawks Marksmanship vs Trained Criminals (Organized)
>Rolled 16 vs DC 6
>3 Degrees of Success, 21 Damage -1 vs 9 Health
>Unit destroyed

The criminals up ahead realize they’ve been made and drop all pretense of subtlety. They break into a wild bloody charge from Pisswater Bend and the side streets up ahead. Two things are for certain, your men are no horse archers and they also don’t give a shit about fighting fairly. They all swiftly dismount as one and start dropping disciplined volleys into the first wave of attackers while the frightened horses dash forward without their riders. The first wave is a tattered mess even before they’re trampled by the uncaring palfreys in the chaos, but there are two more mobs behind them. One is slowed by the horses, but the other will be upon them in moments, so your men fall back on their hit and run training, making their way back to you.

>Can I get 3 rolls of 8d6+1?
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Rolled 3, 3, 1, 1, 1, 6, 4, 3 + 1 = 23 (8d6 + 1)

>>3862650
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>>3862672
Well fuck that for a lark
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Rolled 1, 2, 1, 4, 3, 1, 2, 5 = 19 (8d6)

>>3862650
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>>3862676
Well fuck.

Did they pull out another 3 units of criminals out of nowhere or something?
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Rolled 1, 3, 2, 6, 3, 2, 3, 4 + 1 = 25 (8d6 + 1)

>>3862650
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Rolled 4, 2, 6, 4, 3, 4, 2, 3 + 1 = 29 (8d6 + 1)

>>3862650
well then...
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>>3862672
>>3862676
>>3862700
Oh. Uh. Ok. I'll start writing, but it looks like I'm going to need some 4d6+1 now.
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>>3862702
so close...
>>3862678
well 4 units in total. And we destroyed 2. And seems like We have a chance at firing at them( Just Cormaic?).
Welp seems like we have single handily made the Red Keep a safer place to be. If these were normal times I am sure there would be some kind of bounty on these men. Hopefully, we can capture a leader or two alive. That would be fucking great. Either for bounty or simply where he got his info just to keep it somewhere safe.
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Rolled 5, 2, 3, 1 + 1 = 12 (4d6 + 1)

>>3862726
lets see if this works
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Rolled 2, 5, 1, 3 + 1 = 12 (4d6 + 1)

>>3862726
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Rolled 5, 4, 1, 6 + 1 = 17 (4d6 + 1)

>>3862726
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Rolled 1, 1, 6, 5 + 1 = 14 (4d6 + 1)

>>3862726
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>First 3 rolls were for hit and run shooting, next 2 were Cormaic’s animal handling, last 3 were for the warfare roll, that +1 I tacked on was just a habit

>Sparrowhawks hit and run marksmanship vs Trained Criminals III
>Rolled 7 vs DC 6
>1 degree of success, 7-1 dmg vs 9 health
>Trained criminals are damaged at 3/9 health

Maybe it’s the packs of gold slowing them down, but the volleys from your men really don’t have the devastating effect you’re used to seeing as they pull back down the street. Plenty of your foes die screaming, but the running pot shots the Sparrowhawks are taking don’t stop the scum in their tracks the way the concentrated barrages of the opening moments did. It wounds them, but doesn’t break their furious advance.

>Ser Cormaic Boggs Animal Handling test
>Rolled 2 vs DC 8
>Critical failure, Cormaic takes a wound

You make to dismount and join them as mounted combat is extremely impractical inside the packed city, but for some reason your horse takes the very moment of your dismount to buck and throw you. Your left leg gets caught in the stirrup and bends forward at the knee at an unnatural angle. The pain is immense, but you still manage to croak out an order to draw blades loud enough for your men to follow.

>Sparrowhawks fighting vs Trained Criminals III
>Rolled 9 vs DC 6
>Success, 1 Degree, 4-1 dmg vs 3/9 health
>Trained Criminals III are disorganized

>Trained Criminals III fighting vs Sparrowhawks
>Rolled 14 vs DC 9
>Success, 2 Degrees, 6-2 dmg vs 6 health
>Sparrowhawks are damaged at 2/6 health

The two groups hit each other hard. Your own men are outnumbered and take their fair share of blows, but they lash out with such ruthless determination that the larger group of opportunistic criminals lose their cohesion. After all, what good is coin if you’re not alive to spend it?
>Ser Cormaic fighting vs Wot of Fleabottom
>Rolled 8 vs DC 9
>Failed

>Wot of Fleabottom fighting vs Ser Cormaic
>Rolled 14 vs DC 13
>Success, 1 degree, 9-6 damage vs 8hp
>Cormaic has 6/8 hp remaining

Some big fucker swinging around a common maul starts shouting at them, naming them craven, before he gives up and rushes you instead, taking the opportunity to attack you in your weakened state. You do your best to rise to meet him despite the immense pain, but you can’t close with him enough to deal a decisive blow. Your leg is holding you back too much and even this oaf can sidestep you. He has no such limitations and throws a sloppy swing of his maul right into your chest. It hurts like hell and knocks the wind out of you, but the breastplate absorbs the worst of the strike. Still, you’re not sure how many more hits you can take before either the breastplate cracks or you do.

>Can I get 7d6+1? First 2 are Sparrowhawk fighting, next 3 is Aodhan’s fighting, last 2 are yours
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Rolled 3, 5, 3, 2, 6, 2, 2 + 1 = 24 (7d6 + 1)

>>3862786
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Rolled 2, 4, 5, 6, 5, 3, 6 + 1 = 32 (7d6 + 1)

>>3862786
Not the greatest rolls tonight.
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Rolled 2, 2, 3, 3, 6, 1, 5 + 1 = 23 (7d6 + 1)

>>3862786

>>3862790
Blew all our luck in the first round
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>>3862791
I disagree.
>>3862790
Seems like Aodhan came in with a fucking save with 2 5's and a 6. 16 He might come in and save our ass.
Sparrowhawks scored a 6
and Cormaic a 9. Could be worseLike another crit failure
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You see your men push their advantage and rout the disorganized mass of criminals, pressing them into the crowd of reinforcements behind them and making a mess of the street. The dirt of the road has turned to mud from all of the blood and the screams of the dying are evident even to your ringing ears, but you have bigger concerns right now.

>Ser Cormaic fighting vs Wot of Fleabottom
>Rolled 10 vs DC 9
>Success, 1 degee, 3-1 dmg to 12 hp

>Wot of Fleabottom fighting vs Ser Cormaic
>Rolled 18 vs DC 13
>Success, 2 degrees, 18-5 damage vs 5hp
>Cormaic is at 2/2 wounds
>???

The big bastard has the gall to laugh at your clumsy attempts to fight with one good leg. You make him regret that with one solid lunge forward. Your stiletto slides through the man’s hardened leather tunic and lodges in his ribcage. He roars and crashes the maul into your chest with all of his might. You taste blood in your mouth as you’re knocked into the mud. He looks down on his handywork with a grim smile and raises his maul one last time, but a second smile opens upon his tree trunk of a neck as the three prongs of Aodhan’s frog spear erupts from it from behind. Your world goes black.

>Well look at the time! We will pick up on Wednesday at 7pm EST with the results. Thanks for playing!
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>>3862808
Oh great, almost killed by a fat fuk with a hammer. What a great time for that fat fuck we knighted and never showed up to be here to watch our ass.
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>>3863020
Ser Peter Plumm? He's at the villa at the moment. I would've liked to do more with him before this, but there's been a majority support for keeping Atia a secret and she was only revealed to the court yesterday.

All in all, I was pretty surprised by the rolls. Even made me have to scrap a couple of planned votes due to your current predicament. The guy you fought was a pretty basic roll up with secondary character stats and very beatable had that crit fail not happened. I wasn't even rolling best of 3 for him, but he still rolled above average. He rolled 6,4,4 the first round (sinister was activated) and then rolled 4,3,6,5 that last round.

Is the first time a MC has been knocked to zero wounds in a quest?
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>>3863048
Should we not be spending a destiny point to not die here?
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>>3863174
we have none?
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>>3863174
That we be great if we had one.
It is why people save them
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>>3863048
In any of the ASOIAF quests, yeah. I like it - I've always felt the Bo3 system tends to make thtings too easy, it's good to be reminded that we can still get fucked if the dice so decree
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>>3863182
>>3863182
So were dead?
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>>3863184
I mean, it certainly looks that way since it isn't a knight we are fighting but a criminal but If we make it out of this seems like we will be bed-bound for a while.
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>>3863182
Well we spent our only one on binding ourselves to spider.

tbf if we still had it after meeting spider, we probably would have spent it elsewhere.
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>>3863184
Well, you can see that Aodhan rolled well enough to kill the guy who was about to kill you, but nothing is for certain yet. Provided your men held off the rest of the mob, you still need your wounds to be tended to by someone with real skill sooner rather than later. Here's a screenshot of the defeat section from the rulebook. Obviously it's by no means an exhaustive list and I do tend to treat a good chunk of the rulebook more as guidelines than objective rules.

While we're at it though, can I get 2 rolls of 1d6 for the Butcher's Bill for your men?
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Rolled 5 (1d6)

>>3863213
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>>3863213
I'm more talking about the wounds part. I thought if you were defeated after taking all your wounds it was automatically death...but maybe I'm misremembering. I hope I am because I like this quest
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Rolled 4 (1d6)

>>3863213
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>>3863214
>>3863227
Intact then.

>>3863218
You're right, but I could've just as easily written it as your hp dropping to 0 and resulting in your defeat (but not necessarily your death). You weren't technically obligated to take the second wound in this case, but you will effectively have to attempt to recover from 2 wounds because I just can't see why taking a hit like that to the chest wouldn't result in a wound-like recovery period. As for Cormaic's fate, I still haven't done all the rolls for it myself, so I couldn't tell you! It'll come up in the story tomorrow night though. If he doesn't make it, then I'll figure something out, but even he doesn't get a free pass in such a lethal setting (at least without a destiny point). I'll probably do a POV shift if he dies. I didn't plan for this at all.
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>>3863247
I mean we are at the red keep. If we are actually intrested in a good healing measter we have the wealth to pay for it.
But given our sister is around, so long as we could get to her we should recover just fine. If we can get to her that is.
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>>3863247
Main character death in the novels was fine cause we had multiple view points of the story from many characters. But in this format we only have the one, and switching to a different character entirely will change the entire quest.
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>>3863247
Question how big are the criminals units? 20 men?
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>>3864191
They'd be 100 each, though the first unit you shot at wasn't at full strength yet so they started with the disorganized penalty.
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>>3864210
So we were outnumbered about 15 to 1?
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>I’m gonna do something different and drop this early since it’s ready anyway. Still picking up at ~7pm EST though

“Get up. We’re not done yet.”

You’re in the mud and sore all over. Your father looks at you passively, leaning on the haft of a dulled long axe. His demeanor may be placid, but his eyes that he gave you are always watching, always judging. He’s larger than the man you will grow to be was an absolute giant to you at three and ten. You rise to your feet more in defiance than compliance and ready yourself again.

“Your form is sloppy. You have the poise of a washerwoman. Carry yourself like a man or you’ll never be one.”

You rush him and focus your anger through a series of furious blows with your iron practice sword. He lazily blocks and avoids the blows. “I told you the sword is artless. Almost as unmanly as the shield. The sword-swallowing Seven worshippers would say the same of the axe, but tell me which is more dependent on the warrior’s entire body. The dance of the axe isn’t fancy twirls. It is all momentum. Purpose. Maybe I’m wasting my time and you’d rather stay a weakling.”

You rush him again and stab out with the point of your sword. To your surprise, he makes no attempt to block your strike and the point lodges itself into his ribs. He smirks at your shocked expression and disarms you with a twist of his forearm. You’re doubled over in the dirt from an uppercut to the gut before you can react. He resumes his earlier bored stance despite the blood running from his chest.

“There’s more to a warrior than plucking birds from the air with a bow. You do that well enough, aye. But I find you wanting up close. What will you do when you’re up against half the fighter I am with no interest in your continued health? You’ll be training with Barth now. Perhaps in a few years you’ll make this worth my while, but you’re not ready yet.” He turns and leaves you with the mud and your thoughts as the darkness embraces you again.


You have a sensation of weightlessness followed by mounting pain. You still see nothing, but your stomach turns at the sensation of spinning enveloping you.

>“…you can’t be here…”

>“…a successor…”

>“…only prayer may…”

>“…little to do but wait…”

>“…he dies, get rid of her, quietly…”

>“…I failed you…”

>“…kinder to use the pillow…”
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>>3864305
“Do you think mortals are intentionally incorrect in most of their utterances or is it merely a subconscious construct?” This voice cuts through the ghosts of words that filter through your mind like a comet across the night sky.

“Too much? How is this?” A woman, or girl, materializes above you in the blackness. She, it, could be older than your mother or younger than Ciara, you can’t say, but the one thing you’re certain of is that she looks almost exactly like Atia. It’s the eyes that give you pause. One is the bright violet of your wife, but endless flames dance within it, as immutable as existence. The other is blue. Then green. Then something more. Civilizations are birthed and killed in its depths to the apathy of its owner. You break eye contact and look straight ahead, terrified of what you may see if you gaze for another moment.

“What are you? A spirit? A god?” you ask.

She floats down to your level, crimson dress billowing as blood and soot drip from the soles of her feet. “Who can say,” she, it, says with a playful smile no different than your wife. “You can’t have an answer from me. At least not yet,” she adds in a singsong tone with a wag of her finger.

“What do you want from me?”

“Your views on causality,” she says by way of answer, though her tone is deadly serious now. “Is it really so simple as a topography of continuous curves, already in a state of synchronous equilibrium or is there room for anthrohyperconjugates to backbond?”

“I… don’t speak that tongue.”

She rolls her eyes. “Then I suppose you could assume I’m not planning on telling you what I want from you.”

“Then why are you here?”

“I just wanted to see you… Although I could ask the same of you. What do you want of me?” She asks with some unexpected shyness. She blinks. “Looks like our time is up. We will meet again, Lord Cormaic.”

“I’m not a Lord,” you point out.

“Not with that attitude. You menfolk could stand to be more creative,” she says as she fades away.


You awake into a world of pain. The light filtering into the room is blinding and causes your vision to blur. You try to sit up, but that brings a tingling sensation to your limbs that quickly turns to pain as well. Your throat is unbelievably dry, so you hoarsely try to call for water for a few minutes. A servant enters the room, promptly drops the bundle of linens she was carrying, and runs from the room yelling for help.

Who enters the room?
>Aodhan
>Ciara
>Varys
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>>3864305
>“…only prayer may…”
Fuck QM
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>>3864311
>Ciara
The fuck?
Was that >>3864305 a vote or I just got bamboozled?
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>>3864305
>“…I failed you…”
>>Varys
Yeah you did Varys. You gonna help us cleanse flea bottom and we gonna set up a spy network, you and me. We are gonna learn how to set one up, and we are going to be one of the best minor lord spy masters out there.

>>3864318
Best to pick an option to be safe.
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>>3864298
At least that, yeah. No accounting for quality though. Still makes for a good tale.

>>3864318
>>3864319

Sorry, maybe I shouldn't have greentexted that part. No, it wasn't a vote prompt. All of those things were said.
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>>3864328
Yeah, that sounds weird. They were planning on killing our wife, and ending us with a pillow?
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>>3864334
Who knows! It could've been different people talking at different times.
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>>3864305
jesus christ, we're not short on enemies
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>>3864311
>Varys
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>>3864305
>>3864311

>>“…he dies, get rid of her, quietly…”
>>Aodhan
Meh
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>>3864311
>>Varys
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>He does, get rid of her quietly.

Oh shiggidy. We must PURGE any and all who would harm pregWaifu
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>>3864507
What if it was an "s" in front of the "he"?
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>>3864311
>Varys
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>>3864311
>Aodhan
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By R'hollor. Well I think the lesson here is to never, EVER allow ourselves to be caught in hand to hand combat again unless we seriously consider boosting up Cormaics endurance and fighting level. In hindsight, we honestly should have brought Anders with us to test his merit, and maybe allowed him to fight the big bastard with a hammer.

>Ciara
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>Varys

“Ser Cormaic? Are you still awake?”

You crack your eyes open and see Varys, perfumed and powdered in a comfortable damask robe. He pours you a cup of wine and holds it close to your lips. You drink it down hungrily.

“I had heard you called for water. It’s as if you’re trying to be poisoned, Ser,” he chides. “Many of us will be most relieved by your wakefulness, but not all.”

You glare at him, in little mood for a lecture given the fact that this was as much his plan as yours that’s landed you in this bed. “What happened? How long has it been? The others?”

He grimaces. “Your men are fine, as is the rest of your family, though your Lady wife is most distraught. She should be resting at your villa, but it hasn’t been easy to keep her agreeable. She has a ship awaiting her order that would’ve taken sail with her to Essos had you perished. A wise choice… Ser, it’s been a month. Most thought you finished.”

Fuck… Atia. “The gold? It was delivered, yes? You said my men are fine, so at least they prevailed,” you say.

“They did and I would say your debts are more than paid now. Apparently, they dragged you into an inn and walled up the entranceway with the bodies of any who tried to cross the threshold. A bold and most gruesome plan, but it worked. It seems the gangs were hesitant to set fire to the establishment with it being so close to their territory and containing all of the gold they bled for. The thieves fled when the City Watch started to show up in force. The King himself rode down in all of his fury after learning off the affront. It was his gold at that point and cooler heads had hardly a word in before he was bellowing down the hill with his war companions. I would wager Flea Bottom hasn’t been so placid since Maegor the Cruel,” he says wryly.

“This had to be Lord Gyles,” you start.

“On that we agree, my friend. It was clever in its own way. None of his men were used in the plot. All that was needed was to spread the truth, that a young knight would be riding by with a handful of bowmen and enough gold to let every one of them live comfortably for years,” he smirks. “However, the Crown demanded answers from me, answers that I was happy to provide. It did help that Lord Gyles saw fit to leave the city upon learning you yet lived. Nothing looks guiltier than a man who flees. Officially, he is sought for questioning in accordance to his station. Unofficially, the Crown would sooner see him dead before he may cause any more scandal to this newly birthed and tenuous regime. His clerk, one Petyr Baelish, will be filling in for him until this is put to rest and a more suitable replacement may be appointed.”
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>>3864636
“Why hadn’t you informed me of the attack in advance? I trusted you to have eyes on this,” you say irritably.

“I made an error in judgement, I’m afraid. I couldn’t look past Lord Gyles’s rather unpleasant and haughty personality. I didn’t think he had the wit to use smallfolk in such an effective way and thought it even less likely that he would stoop to such methods even if he had come up with this himself,” he says uncomfortably. “I can assure you I had him watched night and day, but this was most irregular.”

“It’s done, for now,” you say with a grunt. A glance around at your surroundings reveals that you are most certainly not in your villa, which leaves only one logical conclusion. “We are in the Red Keep. How long am I to stay here?”

“Just so. The King bade you be brought here as you suffered your injuries due to the laxity of his own City Watch. I couldn’t say how long you are to stay,” he says with a shrug. “I can say that you suffered from bleeding internally and your ribcage has seen better days to be sure. However, I’m to understand that your leg would give you the most lasting difficulty… I’m sorry, Ser, but it’s unlikely you will ever gain full mobility in it. One of the maesters could answer the question better, or perhaps your sister. That is, if you trust her…”

You feel a pit in your stomach. That answer is too vague. It seems you need to speak with a healer to learn how debilitating this will be. It doesn’t bode well though. “Why wouldn’t I trust her? She’s my sister. Your choice of words is suspicious,” you warn.

“Forgive me, my friend,” he says with raised hands. “I meant no offense, only that I don’t know her well myself and have little reason to call the company she keeps of late your friends. I must say, it’s most likely she was going to be married in a matter of days had you not come back to us. It seems your house has drawn the attention of the Westerlands, for better or worse.”

“As you must know, that was my doing as much as it was hers. I encouraged her to look to the west for a husband and allowed her to marry who she pleased. I negotiated the terms of her betrothal with the Lord Brax myself,” you frown. “I had little reason to distrust her before I fell, has something changed?”

“I truly can’t say. Maybe she’s innocent in all of the plotting, but I am certain the Lannisters and at least some of their bannerman were ready to have her wedded and bedded before your body cooled, with the young Ser Anders taking full control of all of your lands and titles. Perhaps even before your death,” he says cautiously. “To her credit, she was instrumental in your care during your most uncertain hours, to the chagrin of some of the maesters.”
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>>3864639
You feel a cold rage even though Varys leaves the obvious unsaid. You have two titles, both of which should go to your rightful heirs. The trouble is, neither are yet born, and the titles are mean to be held by fully fledged knights. If what the eunuch says is true, then they would’ve been cast aside. Atia was clever to be ready to sail. You don’t want to think of what would have been done to her and your unborn child. And Esmeralda too, though she is far less a threat to a usurper. As for Maeve, it would be a simple matter to have her married to another Westerlander by royal decree. If not, then a Crabb or Brune would’ve swept in anyway. The only thing holding your entire legacy together right now is your continued survival.

He tilts his head. “How odd, I came here under the pretenses of asking you questions about what happened, and it seems I’m only answering your own. Allow me to pose one of my own to you. Given everything you’ve heard, what do you intend to do next? I could have others of your house escorted here. You need not fear being overheard by any but myself. But you wouldn’t need to keep secrets from me, would you,” he titters.

>Send for Ciara. You have questions. Many questions.
>Send for Aodhan. By your reckoning, he is probably what held things together in your absence.
>Send for Atia. She will want to see you more than anyone.

Also, will you bring up your wife’s Blackfyre heritage with Varys while you wait for them to arrive?
>Yes
>No
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>>3864645
>>Send for Aodhan. By your reckoning, he is probably what held things together in your absence.
Saved our ass he likely did. and
>No
Not until we're stronger yet
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>>3864645
>Send for Ciara. You have questions. Many questions.

>No
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>>3864645
>>Send for Ciara. You have questions. Many questions.
No
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>>3864645
>Send for Atia. She will want to see you more than anyone
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>>3864645
Can we continue talking to Varys instead? I want to ask, if it was possible Gyles acted alone. It seems weird, and I doubt Varys would think so, as that would be naive for him.

Who is Gyles connected to?

>No
We don't even know all that much about it ourselves, or even our wife for that matter. I wonder if her half sister knows anything. She is older, and was more or less raised her a bit.
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>>3864645
>Send for Aodhan. By your reckoning, he is probably what held things together in your absence.

>Yes
we must dissent
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>>3864645
>>3864669
Oh right, there was 2 answers.
>yes
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>>3864670
I don't see why you couldn't ask him a few more questions while you wait for someone else to arrive. If you guys have any that you'd like to ask, then feel free to ask away.
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>>3864645
>Send for Ciara. You have questions. Many questions.

>Yes
The more he knows the better. HE won't betray us. Varys may use that information. Help us locating her brother. Sooner he know the better. Even if not sure info this is something he can help us with.
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>>3864655
>>3864663
>>3864667
>>3864670
Is there reason you guys want to hide that info from him?
Like there is no danger in telling him.
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>>3864693
While yes he could potentially help us. Information is power. It's not likely he would use that information. But he could blackmail us with it if need be. Let's work together some more before we let him know is all I'm getting at.
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>>3864693
Varys would absolutely betray us. He testified against Tyrion, even knowing he didn't commit the crime, simply to save his head/further his own ends. He useful, but when push comes to shove, is absolutely not someone you trust with your life. Who's to say that he doesn't take our child and turn him into Faegon if it's a boy? Or perhaps he just kills us now because he sees a Blackfyre Rebellion in the making and is actually loyal to the Targaryens? I'm just spit balling but there are more than a few reasons not to tell him
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>>3864645
>>Send for Aodhan. By your reckoning, he is probably what held things together in your absence.

>Yes
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>>3864670
>>3864678
>Send for Aodhan. By your reckoning, he is probably what held things together in your absence.
Probably best to get some answers from our trusted man before confronting our sister. The facts and such.

How would it be received if in the future we arrived with more men, like 1 or 2 hundred? They'd of course stay outside of the kings castle, perhaps have 100 of them hang around flea bottom.

Will the crown be more proactive in dealing with Flea bottom?

Tell me of Lord Brax and his activities since his visit to the villa till now? Did he visit me while I was under?

Did anyone else visit me while I was out?

>>3864693
Its more likely we will tell him at a later date after we find out more, and to not appear to be a threat to the throne. So far only we seem to know or guess anything. Best keep it that way for now.
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We are simply a weak fucking asset. Now even more so.
Weve to find out just how long this recovery is going to take. And if we could recover full mobility and how long it's going to take.
Ofcourse we hide our recovery. That way when we burn shit down..it cant lead directly back to us..
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>>3864645
>>Send for Ciara. You have questions. Many questions.
>No
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>>3864693
I just think it's a heavy discussion we're going to have, and i'd rather not have that discussion when we've been unconscious for a month with no idea about where we stand. It's not like we gain anything from saying it
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>>3864678
Also, would he be willing to help us or allow us to set up an spy network to identify and wipe out the criminal scum in kings landing, mostly flea bottom.
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>>3864701
Man I think most of the organized criminals have been killed. It's not our problem anymore. It's also not likely we will ever walk around with that kind of money ever again in a city that isn't ours and not have much more security.

Questions I do like are surrounding Lord Brax and who came to visit us. And of simply what he has heard and who has has been planing what about our house so far as what he knows. Better the devil you know than the devil you don't.

Even if Ander's said a thing or two the kid didn't know if we would make it. We could still trust the bastard as no one snuffed us out yet.

I would like Atia to come in as well but that doesn't seem as productive and we may want to have as much usefull information as we can sooner rather than later.
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>>3864717
I don't want her to risk travel and her safety.

Curious on how Maeve took to this news. We should speak to her to gain some perspective, and who may have made any moves towards her domain in that time.

Also......knowing who came to visit us will be like playing a jigsaw puzzle where all the pieces are the same shape and all colored dull grey to the words we heard while passing in and out of consciousness.
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>>3864716
Why would we give a fuck about kings landing and waste our assets cleaning up the red keep for the king?
I'm sure he will lay down the law, and make an example or two. You know as a warrior king should. He came down himself to get his gold.
And we've killed plenty our self. That is in my opinion an idiotic thing to bring up. We aren't exactly rolling in qealth yet my friend. And we've killed most that put us in this predicament. But gyles is where we should be putting our efforts in.

If we could get monetary compensation that would be great. But doubt that would ever happen. As we are too small.
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Hmm, we are tied between Aodhan and Ciara. There's no reason I can't write both, so I'll get started on that.

Keeping the Blackfyre secret for now takes it 5-4 though.

It's going to take some time to write, so until then can I get 6d6+5 for the house fortunes roll you slept through? (6th dice is supposed to be a d3 so halve the number you see for it)
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Rolled 6, 2, 4, 1, 1, 6 + 5 = 25 (6d6 + 5)

>>3864727
Just missed the vote. Oh well.
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Rolled 4, 4, 1, 1, 3, 6 + 5 = 24 (6d6 + 5)

>>3864727
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Rolled 1, 6, 6, 2, 6, 5 + 5 = 31 (6d6 + 5)

>>3864727
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>>3864743
Wait so would this be 28.5
Are we to get the 28 which is a boon? or a curse at 29?
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>>3864751
Well a D3 is normally 1-2 = 2, 3-4 = 2 and 5-6 = 3, so by my count thats a curse unless Boggs plays HF by taking the best roll, not the highest. Curse seems fitting though to be quite honest.
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Rolled 5, 2, 3, 6, 6, 2 + 5 = 29 (6d6 + 5)

>>3864724
I figure it be easy experience for our green troops. (and finishing what the mad king couldn't when we burn half the city down to our god.) :p

>>3864727
Rollin
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>>3864743
>Dropping lowest 2 from 1st 5 dice, halving the 6th dice.
20,19,26
A Blessing! There's some good news.

So you can increase 2 resources by 1 or 1 resource by 1d3.

Given how linear your bonuses to resources are right now, you only have 2 options that make any sense. Population can be converted to Power at a 1:1 ratio.

>Wealth only (2d3+1)

>Wealth and Population (1d3+2 for Wealth, 2 for Population)
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>>3864768
Where are we at in regards to those stats?
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>>3864768
Wealth and pop
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>>3864768
>>Wealth and Population (1d3+2 for Wealth, 2 for Population)
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>>3864768
We needed pop, right? So
>Wealth and population
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>>3864758
I take the highest roll over the best result.

It's Status 3+2 bonus dice from Atia's stewardship. Her Head for Numbers gives the +5 from her Cunning rank and also +1 Wealth any time you increase Wealth through HF (already factored into the above post).
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>>3864768
>>Wealth and Population (1d3+2 for Wealth, 2 for Population)
Guys we need the population at 20 for the new settlement.
And wealth because it's fucking given.

We've a dowry and an infantry unit to pay for soon. As well as other things to come up.
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>>3864775
18 pop, 6 available wealth. 7.5 wealth needed for the dowry, which is needed on the wedding day (date TBD). Population needs to be 20 to start on a Small Town and 21 for a +1 to House Fortunes. You'd also need 10 Land for a Small Town so that's going to be a way off. Population can be converted to Power at a 1:1 ratio and Wealth can be Converted to Power at a 2:1 ratio. You are definitely in need of Power with your commitments, but it wasn't in the voting prompt because you don't have a +1 to resource gain with it like you do with Pop.
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>>3864768
>Wealth and Population
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God I'm worried about our leg
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>>3864787
Meant to quote: >>3864771
Whoops.

Okay, Wealth and Pop it is. Can I get 3 rolls of 1d3+2?
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Rolled 1 + 2 (1d3 + 2)

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Rolled 2 + 2 (1d3 + 2)

>>3864818
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Rolled 1 + 2 (1d3 + 2)

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>>3864824
+4 wealth, +2 population. That 3 didn't want to come out to play today, eh?

You now have 10 available wealth and 20 population. Still writing the next post up.
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“I would like to speak to Aodhan, my lieutenant, and my sister,” you decide.

“Oh, that should be easy, they’re both not far from here. Lady Ciara is likely still attending the Queen’s Ladies brunch and I am already familiar with your man Aodhan. He insisted your room be guarded by your own. Quite likely the only reason you haven’t been killed in your sleep,” he shudders at the thought.

“Then I owe him twice over now. I should see to rewarding him, but first I would like his council. Send for him and then my sister. Until then, I would know more of who is aligned against me,” you say.

He leaves the room for a brief moment. If he speaks the truth, one of your men should be at the door while another is off to find Aodhan. “I know you are likely thinking of Essos still, but Lord Gyles has acted alone to this point. He has, or had, business dealings with several magisters of Pentos, but they typically have the sense to recognize a depreciating asset when they see one, especially if your goodfather is willing to kill one of his own on what could only be a hunch. The man now represents the very picture of bad business,” he says.

“And matters closer to home? Such as Lord Brax,” you press.

“Lord Andros simply isn’t the type to play these games. I have no doubt he would have been pleased enough had his baseborn son ascended to your position, but he has had no role in planning it that I can see. You’re better served looking towards our lovely Queen. I do believe she’s taking a fancy to your humble house and the very concept of Queensmen. As of now, she only has yourself and Pynewatch sworn to her, but that one inherited her father’s low cunning and ambition, if not his wisdom,” he says.

“The bloody Queen? She must be barely older than Ciara, if not of an age. You mean to say she is casually plotting the destruction of my family just after I showed her favor?"

“Oh, I’m not quite convinced she is intending to be malicious, but a woman such as her… she sees the world differently than you or I. She may genuinely think she is doing what is best for your house. Like your sweet Esmeralda with a particularly delicate toy, she is wont to break things in her curiosity before discarding them for something new,” he says with sadness. “And with that thought, I’m afraid I must be going, my friend. Until next time.”

He shuffles out, leaving you to your turning thoughts.

>Cont. with Aodhan shortly.
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>>3864838
Aodhan enters the room shortly, somewhat out of breath. “Ser, it’s good to have you back.”

“I should be calling you Ser. You know I’m going to have to knight you now,” you say lightly.

“Don’t need to go through all of the trouble of that,” he says, uneasy with praise as always.

“I knighted a fat boy for being second best at fighting with blunted steel. You saved my life twice over. Take the knighthood for your child’s sake,” you order. “We will do it when I can at least get out of bed. Your woman would want to see it anyway, I’d expect. You’ll thank me later. They love that shit.”

He cracks a smile, but still seems troubled. “It wasn’t enough though. You fell and I was sworn to protect you.”

“Hard to do that when I’m falling from my own damn horse like a bloody fool. I’m assuming you left that part out of the retelling?” He nods. “Small mercy,” you mutter.

“I’m assuming you’ve already heard what happened from the Lord Varys. He sought to question you when you awoke and we weren’t in a position to refuse him,” he explains.

“Aye. Sounds like I missed the best part. What of the rest? No one fell?”

“We all had our scrapes, but you had the worst of it. Most of the lads are recovered by now, or they will be soon enough.” He hesitates. “Cormaic… you can say what you want, but the fact is we were supposed to protect you. If we had that much trouble with you, then what will happen if it’s Atia’s litter next time? Aye, the King crashed through that shitstain of a neighborhood like a crazed boar, but those types always come back.”

“What are you proposing?”

“I don’t like it, but it may be time for us to change our focus. Throw on some scale mail and act as a proper personal guard, at least most of the time, instead of like a band of rangers. Start training to fight close up so we don’t get run over by a mob,” he sighs. “Just a thought, Ser. I just ask you to think on it.”

“I will think on it,” you allow with a nod. “How’s Atia, Ciara?”

“Right, you haven’t seen Lady Atia yet… she isn’t herself. Not to say she’s gone mad, at least not exactly, but she pulled herself together when she grasped what was at stake beyond yourself and she’s been… busy, very busy.” He glances around pointedly. “I dare not say more here, Ser. She made me swear an oath.”

You pinch the bridge of your nose. You hope she knows what she’s doing. “And my sister?”

“You know I love your sister. Not like… you know what I mean,” he adds hurriedly at your look. “But I don’t trust her. I don’t know what part she has in all of this or if she even knows, but your Lady wife seems convinced your sister’s Lannister friends are plotting against you. Tyrra is never far from her side.”
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>>3864838
Would we be able to get this?
FOOD AGRICULTURE
Requirement: Plains or Hills with no Woods or Communities larger than a Hamlet
House Fortune Rolls: +1
Resource Gain Bonus: Population +1, Power +1
Use Limit: These benefits only apply during Spring, Summer, and Autumn.

I would then be all for
Alcohol Distillery: +5 Wealth; 1d6+6 months. The holding includes facilities for the fermentation of alcohol from
the food it produces, whether a brewery for grains, a winery for vineyards, or a cidery for apple or pear orchards.
Resource Gain Bonus: Population +1, Wealth +1


We just don't have options for anything that increases power other than this option so it seems. Does anyone have any better options for our next investment?
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“I see. Thank you, friend. I think she will be with me shortly. Perhaps I will get to the bottom of this. Until then, go to my wife. I’d prefer the news of my awakening comes from you,” you say tiredly.

You feel weary, but you stop yourself from dozing while you wait. Another hour passes before Ciara shows up wearing a dress in the green of your house along with a new gemstone necklace of considerable value that brings out her eyes. She smiles widely when she sees you.

>Any questions for her before I continue? How do you want to handle this?
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>>3864902
It's good to see you sister. I heard you were instrumental on me not dying here in a truly embarrassing fashion. I hope this has not cut into your wedding preparation too badly. Where's Andros?


Act, and otherwise just make some questions that are innocuous and see how she reacts. I trust Our eyes over her ability to lie to us.
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>>3864902
>Ask if she fucked unicorn boy already (as brotherly rubbing not malice in it)
Aside from that
>Ask about our health
>Ask about her new Lannister 'friends' (still not malice in it)
>Ask who was visiting us
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>>3864902
What's our situation as far as you can tell us the best healer in the house I have to trust your opinion on it.
Sister anything I should know and hear from you before I hear another point of view that could paint you in a different light?

Can't think of anything else really.
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>>3864901
I'd be all for that if we can.
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>>3864916
What would she lie about? You didn't really ask her anything that would give her reason to lie...
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“Cormaic! The Gods do listen!” She rushes to your side. “I would hug you, but that would be ill advised.”

“It seems you’re right,” you say as you glance down your broken body. Your leg is in a cast to keep it from moving. “I’m told I have you to thank for my waking from a blissful slumber. How long am I going to be stuck like this? You’re the best healer I know so I would like your opinion.”

She blushes at the unexpected praise. “Your ribcage will health in time, I think. It may take months though. If your organs were pulped then we wouldn’t be talking at this point, so that’s good news. But Cormaic, your leg… I’m sorry, but it will never be the way it used to be. I think you will be able to walk on it again in time, you may even gain full mobility provided you’re not weighed down by the bulk of armor, but sprinting and rougher riding would still be very difficult. It is going to take the longest to heal by far,” she says sadly.

“A crippled knight. I can already hear the jokes from our neighbors when next we meet,” you say bitterly.

“It could be worse, Cormaic. You should still have no trouble with your bow. When we last spoke, Atia mentioned making you a cane to walk with,” she says encouragingly.

“So you have spoken with her? How is she?”

“I’m not sure. She was a mess when she first heard what happened and visited frequently in the first few days, but then she stopped coming. Since then, she’s been distant… she hardly speaks to me,” she says worriedly.

“Hmm. I’m sure I will be speaking with her soon enough. When do you think I can leave?”

She scrunches her face in thought. “Assuming you’re in a rush? A few days and by way of a litter. You’ll still need to regain some of your strength after being bedridden for so long. And Cormaic… the pain will be intense. We’ve been giving you milk of the poppy and only stopped recently after your fever stabilized. You will either need to keep taking it and be less lucid or you will suffer.”

“Sounds like I’ll be suffering. Or maybe some of the strongwine will do the trick,” you say.

“No, no it won’t. If you do insist on drinking anyway, just please don’t mix your medications,” she winces at the thought.

“That’s quite the necklace. Who bought it for you? I know I would remember if I did. Ciara… have you been chaste?”

She flushes crimson. “Why would you think that I haven’t? I can wait a few more days,” she hisses.

“A few more days? You were planning to wed without my leave,” you state with a raised eyebrow.
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>>3864976
“We’ve had an influx of traders in the Boggwood and more have settled in the hamlet. The gold Atia managed to wrangle out of them put us at more than enough for the dowry and preparations,” she explains. “I wanted to wait for you to wake up, but Lord Andros was shown favor by the Crown for his service during the war. The Queen herself decreed that we should be wed at the Mother’s Sept upon the first of the new month. That’s in six days! I didn’t protest it because it was a great honor and was saving us a few hundred dragons besides. The Queen even gifted me this necklace from her personal jewels. She insisted I wear it upon my wedding day,” she says excitedly.

You sink back into the bed. You know your sister. She’s never been one for guile and tries to see the best in everyone. She’s intelligent with her books and her healing, but you’ve never considered her to be cunning. Still, she all but confirmed that whatever plots were swirling were either the Queen’s doing or that of her lackeys. What will you do about it though?

>Call off the wedding. You won’t stand for these plots. It would have enormous social repercussions, but it would send a hell of a message and may take your sister off the board of whatever game is being played.
>Let everything proceed. Bide your time. Prioritize the safety of your wife and heir. You will strike on your own terms later.
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>>3864978
>>Let everything proceed. Bide your time. Prioritize the safety of your wife and heir. You will strike on your own terms later.
Just don't think it is worth angering the queen. As long as we can make it to the wedding I say we proceed. Also saves us some money, and we can thank the queen for helping "MY house" personally when we can.
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>>3864978
>>Let everything proceed. Bide your time. Prioritize the safety of your wife and heir. You will strike on your own terms later.


Man we're permanently crippled for combat and hunting. Welp guess we're screwed then.
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>>3864987
Fuck that. While I didn't want one before we could use this as a way to find a maester that is well versed with healing and injuries of these kinds. SO we've someone to handle ravens and teach our family line how to read and write better than our family currently has. As well as get us back to 100% or as close to as we can. Someone to handle our coresponses and work with us to heal us back as much as we can. While we heal up we could also gain some knowledge, and use his expertise to gain another point in endurance make us more durable.
Our Rich living standard of living should help us get back on our feet decently enough. Or at least sooner
I refuse to believe she is this empty-headed Ciara had to know something was up.

Again Bogg would we be able to obtain Food agriculture within our domain, once we gain a Small town?
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>>3864978
>>Let everything proceed. Bide your time. Prioritize the safety of your wife and heir. You will strike on your own terms later.
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>>3864993
>before we could use this as a way to find a maester that is well versed with healing and injuries of these kinds.

Maester's can't do shit man. They all agreed our leg is beyond recovery. We're perma crippled for the rest of the Quest, which outright fucks Cormaic given his set up. But the qm has ruled we're basically useless now.
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>>3864997
It's not as bad as all of that. It'll take a few months to heal, but you can get at least most of your old usage back with time. Given time, your combat ability will be unaffected unless you're weighing yourself down with bulky armor, at which point you'll just be taking a heavier movement penalty. I was going to explain all of this, but wanted to break it out it in the story first.
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>>3864997
Useless? Hardly. We can still fire a bow. I imagine we're probably going to have the "crippled" drawback now which reduces our movement by 2 yards.

But regardless, our peak skill is still at 100%, and this is a perfect example of why it's important to have a spare destiny point on us at all times.

>Let everything proceed. Bide your time. Prioritize the safety of your wife and heir. You will strike on your own terms later.
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>>3864997
>Maester's can't do shit man. They all agreed our leg is beyond recovery.
That is not what has been said "However, I’m to understand that your leg would give you the most lasting difficulty… I’m sorry, Ser, but it’s unlikely you will ever gain full mobility in it. One of the maesters could answer the question better, or perhaps your sister. That is if you trust her…”
Is what happened and while our sister if great we haven't seen a specialist. She is saying we would be able to move around with armor and riding would be difficult. If we find a maester that has put in his time and effort looking into these matters we might never get back to 100% but we may be able to ride without issue and be involved in fighting at least from horseback and hunting as we did just with someone to carry back our trophy's.

Just saying it may be worth the time and energy to get. We have a support unit, who could follow directions of a maester to the letter to help us heal up over time. Be it a maester or if Atia and her father could find someone better suited I would be fine with that as well. Simply giving us options. Seems like we should be a pretty able cripple.
But like in today's world, a good physical therapist could mean the difference between walking and walking with a limp for the rest of your life. Even in today's day in age does it make a difference more so would it matter for our health if we found someone who knows what we should be doing every step of the way.
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>>3864978
>Let everything proceed. Bide your time. Prioritize the safety of your wife and heir. You will strike on your own terms later.

Cersei thinks that she's doing our house a favour tying us to the west. We just need to show that we're not opposed to closer ties and that we ourselves are useful and she'll be happy to help us.
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>>3865010
Agreed. We could even use this favor to have her help us heal. Send the best healer the kingdom can find. While the king didn't really care for us and it was more about his gold. It happened in his house on his watch. I refuse to believe he wouldn't help us at all for something that directly relates to his lax security. Along with the queen's favor and all.

Also, I say this again, we could use someone outside of our sister who can read and write. And teach it to our soon to be new born and Esmeralda. Along with someone we could have full confidence in not sharing information with their husband and so on when raven has to be collected and sent out. It wouldn't be a short-sighted pick up in my opinion. And as far as our wife is to decide I am sure she would agree as she has likely lost much faith in our sister Ciara and could learn from the Maester along with anyone else in our household.

I know I am pitching this hard, but seems like it would be very IC. We learn pentoshi from our sister in law and our wife and our self learn common from the maester.
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>Let everything proceed. Bide your time. Prioritize the safety of your wife and heir. You will strike on your own terms later.

“It looks like I have a goal then. I’ll need to be able to escort you at your wedding,” you say.

She favors you with a big dopey smile and a few tears fall from her eyes unbidden. “You’re mad if you think you’ll be walking about in a few days. Maybe with some support you could… but best not to get our hopes up. Mother should be in the city soon. I know you sent her back, but I didn’t want her to miss the wedding even if she is still sour about the Sept.”

“Will Maeve be coming too?”

“No, I wish she would, but she’s been taking precautions in case you didn’t recover. I told her it was unnecessary, but she isn’t listening to me. She wrote to me that she’s raised a new company of horse to replace one of the ones that were lost, and she’s barred all visitors from the hall of Pynewatch. She seems to think someone is going to swoop in and force her into marriage,” she says with a worried frown.

“That won’t be happening. Have our neighbors passed through the Red Keep yet?”

“The Lord Cave and the Brownhollow Brunes have, and the rumor is the other three Lords are expected to next week,” she says.

“Good. Then they won’t be getting into any trouble for at least a few weeks. That is, if they behave themselves in the city. I may even have to host them while they are here, just to be sure. It’s not like any of them keep homes this far south,” you think. “That would be a mess, but it may be worth it.” You stifle a yawn. “Thank you for getting me this far, Ciara. I think I may need to rest again.”

“You don’t need to thank me, Cormaic. You’re my only brother and I love you,” she says sheepishly.

>That’s it for tonight. I’m going to be busy tomorrow night, but we will pick back up on Friday! Thanks for playing. I have a vote to drop in a few min after I catch up on questions.
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>>3865033
Intresting. I am intrigued to see how well we did on experience and glory.
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>>3863214
Doesnt that mean they gained a training?
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>>3864901
Unfortunately no. It's an estate holding so you would need to grab another domain. You already have the Fishery on your only domain. I won't say it's impossible, but you would probably need to war with your neighbors to pull something like that off around the Boggwood. (So, Hardy or the Brownhollow Brunes.) Also, your parcel of land near King's Landing is too small be be considered a domain. You could maybe do something about that too, but I'll leave that up to the players to figure out.

>>3865007
Yeah, I do intend on using the crippled drawback, but with some modifications to it. I'll post it when I've settled on the details so I don't have to retcon anything, but it'll have something to do with bulky armor.

>>3865017
A maester would be an amazingly good addition, especially since you won't be able to rely on Ciara as much and she has basically been filling the role of a maester, as strange as that is. I'll be sure to put it to a vote when you have the funds. You will only have 3 wealth come the start of the month and you need 10.

Speaking of, you guys can absolutely seek compensation for what happened on the city's watch. Feel free to come up with whatever demands you want and we can seek audience and make a case.
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>>3865036
It would've had they not been damaged in combat. You needed a 6 to increase their training this time. Speaking of increases, can I get 2d6 for influence gain from Atia's feast (that you missed), the fighting, Ciara's wedding, and your audience before the Iron Throne?
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Rolled 6, 2 = 8 (2d6)

>>3865046
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Rolled 5, 3 = 8 (2d6)

>>3865046
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Rolled 2, 3 = 5 (2d6)

>>3865046
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>>3865051
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>>3865070
>+8. New influence is 26.
>Status for Cormaic and Atia increases to 4
>Your house has gained more recognition and prestige of late and your heightened status will attract more attention to your lands, for good or ill. House Fortune Rolls will now occur every 2 months instead of every 3 months.

One last thing! I've been severely slacking on keeping track of your exp gain lately. As far as I'm concerned, if Cormaic hasn't gained 30 exp over the past two or so months, then I don't know who has. So here's the overnight vote:

>Which rank 3 or higher ability do you want to rank up (besides status or language)?

The vote will be tonight and all day tomorrow, so there is plenty of time to discuss this. See the pic for your current ability ranks.
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>>3865074
would higher endurance or athletics help our recovery?
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>>3865085
Athletics, no. Endurance could if you don't have a healer around to help, but I'm going to handle those 10 exp upgrades in a separate vote. There will be one soon though. Probably this weekend.
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>>3865091
Well if we have to pick a level 3 to upgrade it would be Agility. IC not sure how'd you manage that..possibly him thinking how to move better and putting it into practice when he can. Studying the water dancer he has near him and all.

As for 10 exp I would say endurance and animal handling. Seems like we should really get better on a horse if we are not going to be moving all that well on foot as much. And Endurance seems like a no brainer at this point.

I'd still argue the point that we should look into the king and queen getting us a maester for our lands kind of thing. A good one and we get a discount on the acquisition or get a loan from the iron throne for one or something. We still have to give them face. If not demanding their best doctor/maester would be at the top of my list of demands.
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>>3865098
Meh, we need to respec now that we are a cripple.
instead of fixiing something broke, we should use the xp for social and knowledge shit
Deception maybe
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>>3865110
Bogg already said that it won't be that bad
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>>3865114
i dont like railroads
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We should have punished her by threatening to cancel the wedding without knowing why.
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Did we get a full detailed list of who visited us from Varys or Aodhan
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If its not too much to ask, can we move more men up here for protection?
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>>3865074
>>3865074
I'm torn. Agility is the obvious choice but Persuasion or Deception might be more useful in the near future even with our wife backing us up there.

The 10 xp choices are just as hard
>Animal Handling to overcome any movement penalty, or
>Endurance to let us soak more wounds in the future
We're still doing the narrative method to up our specialities, right Boggs? Otherwise we have Strength (for that increased bow damage) and all the persuasion specialties to consider too.

>>3865116
What railroad?
We had some bad luck and took a nasty injury but that's war. You wouldn't want the MC to be invulnerable would you?
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>>3865110
We will still have many functions of our body left over. And can still use our bow at 100%

In life just because you get into a car accident and lose mobility you all if a sudden dont have a chance to respec... you pivot in your life if you cant regain mobility and pick up fron there.
That we were given 1 chance to respect in the game so far was already generous.
>>3865187
Persuasion might be a nice boost. Especially with the way things are going to be looking for the next year.
We should also keep our recovery under wraps till our own ceremony and tournament. And even then, till we meet up with our neighbors.
With everything going on I dont expect for the alliance to see us as a strong member. But this could be a chance to let others undermine us. And see where we stand. But how ever you guys want
Are we ever getting our sister in laws stats?
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>>3865176
I can work something out for that.

>>3865178
Who? You're extremely short on fighting men right now. You still haven't paid for the infantry unit.

>>3865116
I'm not sure what you mean. Care to elaborate? Not trying to argue, just curious. We are all in some uncharted territory after all.

>>3865187
Yeah, specialties are still going to be in the narrative.

Persuasion helps your intimidate for sure, but your other techniques are still going to be rolling with only a dice or 2, I think. This is kinda funny, at least to me, but your social drawbacks don't apply to Deception. In theory, you could Act your way through encounters instead if being your true (terrifying) self. It could backfire if your opponent is rolling with some exceptionally high Awareness, but in most cases it could work.

One more ability that doesn't get talked about much is Will. Just to be fair, I'll tell you now that you will need to roll Will tests for pain management if you're looking to push yourself over the next few months.

Obviously a lot of the other abilities are good too. Just thought those two were probably the only ones that could've used more explanation at this point.
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>>3865277
>Are we ever getting our sister in laws stats?
Yup, thanks for the reminder. It'll be up by tomorrow night.
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>>3865311
Like half of the total sparrowhawks?

What can the badgers do in terms of fighting?
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>>3865344
terrible...they are a support group. Likely just as good as a peasant levy.. not worth considering we are in the capital. We were attacked in a bad neighborhood carrying life-changing gold for each and every person attacking. Now we are some crippled noble in our townhouse with nothing else to offer. And a lot of elite security

We also have ALL of our sparrow hawks here with us. Remember we are only 20 men now. Personal guard and all.
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>>3865348
>cripple
Why is everyone freaking out at this. Boggs says we can heal. Probably more dependent on dice rolls or something. We get some proper care and a maester or two.

Also isn't the sparrowhawks a full unit and we took some to form an elite unit afterwards?
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>>3865348
This is accurate. The main thing separating them from a peasant levy in terms of fighting is their better discipline.

>>3865353
No, that would've costed you quite a bit of power that you simply don't have. They are mechanically the same unit, but are 20 men from a fluff perspective. Makes it a ton easier to handle from a dice rolling perspective and helps my logistical autism in explaining how you're housing them, etc.
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>>3865353
They are an elite unit of power guards.
I am simply saying he is crippled in some way. I don't believe it's the end of the world at all. And I was simply pointing out that we've plenty of men we should need more. And they are likely to use back home.

What I would like a confirmation of is if we could find a healer maester would that help with the long term negatives from this injury Boggs? Say we employ a Measter who is well versed with injuries and treatment will it reduce the will tests on pain? Giving him a smaller reduction in mobility with the right care? Or would we simply be better off getting a Maester in something else we care about and having Ciara will be just fine?

>>3865357
Also Boggs I wanted to address this. At least for personal fights could we do that aside from everything else going on. As bonus die was not used. And I doubt they would have changed much. But just for the future for Cormaic's rolls.
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>>3865358
You are status 4 now, which is the requirement for a maester outside of wealth, so you can get one. You are currently 7 wealth short, but there are things you can do about that (such as requesting an audience for compensation).

If/when you all decide to fully purchase a maester (they don't serve houses on a part-time basis), I will offer up a list of specialties such as healing, economics, sailing, warfare, history, magic, architecture, heraldry/houses. The leading 3 will be your maester's specialties. Seems like healing would be a leading contender, but you'll still have 2 others to go along with it.

Yeah, I don't have a problem with separating the dice rolls more for future fights, especially for personal combat. I was trying to speed up the rolls, but it was getting a little messy. I actually ended up making a couple of errors in your favor, but they wouldn't have affected the final outcome. If anyone was wondering, your 1 bonus dice with your stiletto wasn't applied because 1 bonus dice is negated as part of the training requirement to wield it.
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>>3865378
I would love to requester a maester as our compensation desu, it'd be a good argument to say "hey i was injured in your city all i want is a way to recover"
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>>3865382
Kind of a stretch to be honest. I think if that is how we phrased it that way we'd likely just have Pycelle looking after us until we left the Red Keep. I think going after coin would be the smarter move. I don't know how much compensation we're entitled to here we also have a dowry to pay very, very soon.
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>>3865378
Economics and Espionage?
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>>3865385
Weve already had it deducted. It was 7.5
Weve 3 left over.
>>3865382
I think coin would be fine.
Healing,sailing and economics would be fine.
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>>3865385
>>3865395
I mean we did almost die and our sister is getting married in a big-deal way, but i could also see it being a bit ambitious.
Depends who is hearing our petition I guess? I bet robert would know the worth of a maester for healing and empathize with a warrior wanting to get back on his feet ASAP
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The discussion is great, and I would love for it to continue, but I'd also like to get some consensus by tomorrow on the ability that will be raised. Please reply to this post with your vote for which you'd like raised. I explained Deception and Will a little more above since they are kinda vague. If anyone needs clarity on something else, then feel free to ask. If not, here are your options. Please choose only 1.

Raise current rank 5 to rank 6:
>Awareness
>Marksmanship
Raise current rank 4 to rank 5:
>Cunning
>Stealth
Raise current rank 3 to rank 4:
>Agility
>Athletics
>Deception
>Fighting
>Survival
>Warfare
>Will
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>>3865406
What does Survival do again?
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>>3865409
Hunting, foraging for food, and tracking footprints.
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>>3865406
>>Will
I'll vote will. I think we're definitely gonna need it and it makes sense in the narrative
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>>3865411
Can you put the details of abilities in the character sheet docs so we can always reference it instead of always asking or having to dig through previous threads?
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>>3865406
>>Will
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>>3865436
I put the rulebook on the drive. Pages 53-70 have everything on abilities from a brief summary to detailed breakdowns with examples. Obviously I adapt some things to fit this different quest medium, but the book should serve for the most part.
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>>3865406
>Will
Getting back on our feet will be a bitch, this will help very much.
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>>3865406
>Will
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Can we sacrifice raising our ability in exchange for a full recovery?
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>>3865378
>specialties
What would be level of those specialties?
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>>3865463
Sounds boring
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>>3865406
>Deception
or
>Will

whichever needs a deciding vote
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>>3865446
>>3865417
Won't athletics help too?
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>>3865484
I imagine it could, but i quite like the idea of his brush with death hardening his will while still having consequences for cormaic
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>>3865494
Not a bad argument character wise imo.
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>>3865406
>Athletics
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>>3865484
I have no issues with getting athletics, I think we should get that next. Will makes more sense though, in character
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>>3865524
I figure we can develop character after we safely heal. Sooner we heal the better off we are to develop our MC.
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>>3865406
Persuasion
It really should have been on the list..
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>>3865532
Gah, sorry. Figures I would miss one on that rank 3 list.

>>3865466
Effectively rank 5, so pretty good.

>>3865463
No, and athletics has nothing to do with recovering. Already answered that here >>3865091
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>>3865406
>>3865512
>>3865609
Changing to
>Will
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>>3865609
>Effectively rank 5, so pretty good.
Doesn't our sister got like rank 6 or 7 with bonuses from traits?
Could we buy her some stuff to improve her healing rolls?
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>>3865635
Ciara is Healing rank 4 base, but miracle worker is the mark of a true prodigy (and won't just be handed out to a maester). She's probably hovering between rank 5 and 6 with it mechanically. It's easily what she's best at. Kinda tragic that she wasn't born a man. She would be famous by now. And yeah, you can buy her some books, lol. The one thing holding her back in the swamp. She can add the number of bonus dice she gets in education to her test results, but she currently has none.

This doesn't mean a maester wouldn't serve you just as well for your purposes. Sometimes healing from wounds just takes time regardless of who is treating you.
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>>3865664
Well knowing that I think we may be better off just getting her a bunch of books on healing and injuries like ours.

If we are getting a Measter
Economic, Sailing & architecture/or heraldry/houses(This shit is important some times.The kids should learn it along with at least our wife)

>>3865406
>Persuasion
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>>3865406
>Persuasion or Deception
Will is a very niche stat
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>>3866140
Man I am all for persuasion.
But Will is very niche but very important if all of a sudden we are negotiating and blackout/and or start screaming in pain at the negotiating table due to pain from the injury.. In theory, the pain could happen many times a day or only with specific activities. We just don't know yet.
Not saying I support it right now. But I can see why it is quite important moving forward.
This may become a thing that associated with our new found faith we could have the fire god help us get over with.
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>>3865406
>>Will
It makes sense right now. Not a fan of the rollplaying
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>>3865792
>heraldry/houses
Handy to learn stuff about Blackfyres and whatnot.
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>>3866148
>if all of a sudden we are negotiating and blackout/and or start screaming in pain at the negotiating table due to pain from the injury
That doesn't seem particularly likely. Boggs said it might be an issue if we push ourselves but I imagine that'd be more to do with physical activity - to suddenly blackout or drop into a screaming foetal mess just because we've spent too long at the negotiating table is pretty unrealistic.

>>3866167
>Will makes sense right now. Not a fan of the rollplaying
Given the time we've spent plotting and scheming recently Deception or Persuasion is at least as in-character as Will
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Will takes it!

I'm sure there will be another opportunity to rank up an ability in the coming months.
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The day turns out to be far from restful. You woke a few hours after Ciara took her leave of you with your leg feeling as if it were on fire and your chest itching fiercely. The painkillers were wearing off and Ciara’s assessment of pain was an understatement at best. Perhaps worse than that was your chest. The itching was getting worse, so you lifted your undershirt to find yourself covered with leeches. Fat wriggling things fit to burst if they gorged themselves any longer upon your blood. You angrily questioned Ciara about them the next day when she returned, but they were a surprise to her as well.

“I had wondered why your color wasn’t returning. This is the maesters’ work, the old fools. They think everything can be solved with bloodletting, as if that weren’t exactly what we were trying to prevent,” she says with disgust. “…don’t tell them I said that, I’m trying to gain access to some of their medical texts, but they are wary of my sex.”

“What can you do about this leg? This plaster reeks,” you complain.

“A small price to pay for healing, brother. Still, I suppose it would be unseemly for you to go about the city with it. We can’t have you looking weak. Hmm.” She paces the room in thought for some time before her face lights up. “I will speak to a blacksmith! We could make you a metal brace and attach it to a boot. That way your leg won’t shift too much and you will still look the part of a warrior. Your knee will still need to be carefully wrapped as it is the most damaged, but that could be hidden beneath your clothing.”

She leaves in a hurry and comes back with one after a short time. A smith on retainer for the Red Keep. His work is free of charge, the King had already declared your care to be at the Crown’s expense and Ciara apparently insisted this was part of it. You still see the man receives some coin for his time, this is too important to risk shoddy craftsmanship. He and Ciara discuss the measurements and design for a time before he leaves to get to work.

“Ciara, what of Atia?” Your wife still hasn’t come to see you.

“She’s overjoyed that you’re awake, Cormaic, but I don’t think she is going to see you here,” she says hesitantly. “She’s been… different lately. Less trusting. Aodhan says she thinks your men failed you and doesn’t trust them to protect her even on such a short journey. That she won’t risk your heir over her own wants.”

You frown. You don’t want to think the worst, especially after the well-meaning but bad council on your sister, but it at least sounds like your wife is acting erratically. “My men saved my life.”

“She doesn’t see it that way. She thinks you should have never been injured in the first place,” Ciara says with a shrug.

“Well that’s just not realistic. Men fall in battle. That’s reality. She just doesn’t understand war,” you say.
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>>3867075
“Of course she doesn’t, Cormaic,” she was with exasperation. “I’m little better myself, I suppose. She’s nine and ten now, still bearing her first child. That’s rather old for one of her beauty and speaks of how much she must have been sheltered all her life. And she is deeply in love with you to boot. I only hope to feel the way she does one day. You can’t expect her to just shrug it off when you lay dying the day before her nameday after what should’ve been no different than a trip to the market.”

“I thought you were smitten with the Anders lad.”

“Yes, smitten. I desire him and care for him, but I’m not fool enough to go around speaking of love when we’ve shared little more kissing. Mother raised me better than that,” she says with hands on her hips. “Why are you looking at me like that?”

“I’m just wondering when you stopped being the annoying little girl I was so accustomed to and became this fierce woman. Like Mother indeed,” you say with a smirk.

She blushes and glares simultaneously, unsure how to take your words. “Just a moment, she did give me something for you.” She leaves the room again. Just a moment? Where would you go?

She returns with a long package wrapped in linens. You notice it’s bound by the same red silk ribbon Atia tied around your arms. “A sword?” You unwrap it and find something more useful. A blackened iron walking cane. Capped with wood to muffle the sound of it on stone and wrapped in intricate scrollwork, but your eyes are drawn to the pommel of it; a woman carved from white quartz in Atia’s likeness, wrapped in a black dragon of onyx. Subtle…

“It was meant to be your nameday gift, but you didn’t wake in time. I didn’t get to see it. That’s beautiful! The dragon though, really? Hmm. At least it isn’t a red dragon. That would be a bit on the nose,” Ciara says.

No, you think. It is very much on the nose. “My nameday?” you ask instead.

“It was three days ago now, I’m sorry I couldn’t wake you sooner,” she says guiltily. You shrug it off and she says her goodbyes soon after, promising to check in on you.

>Can I get 4d6 for Will to see how well you do with tapering off the Milk of the Poppy these next few days?
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Rolled 6, 6, 3, 3 = 18 (4d6)

>>3867079
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Rolled 6, 3, 1, 6 = 16 (4d6)

>>3867079
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Rolled 1, 6, 3, 3 = 13 (4d6)

>>3867079
This is it for me. Gonna be gone for the next week.
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>>3867079
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>>3867095
Probably passed with this one, good job anon
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>>3867095
>>3867096
>>3867097 Good luck with things, anon!

>Rolled 18 vs DC 15
>1 Degree of Success

Writing!
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The hangover feeling you can deal with. This is worse, but you’ve been there before. The pain, surprisingly, you can also grit your teeth through. The worst of it is the sleep. This level of background discomfort doesn’t lend itself well to continuous sleep, nor does your body’s general state of restlessness. You’ve never been bedridden for even half this long and have to resist the urge to try to stand.

Aodhan checks in on you and even provides you with a rough description of some of your visitors. Your men are common born and illiterate, so they weren’t exactly keeping detailed logs, but you’re able to gather that the Hand has been by a couple of times, likely on behalf of the King. You doubt he’s a fan of yours. The Queen and Lord Andros Brax paid their respects too. The last name of note and one readily recognized by your men was Ser Dustin Brune, the Knight of Brownhollow. Their lands border your own and, through some sort of miracle, you actually get along with them most of the time. It helps that Ser Dustin was a friend of your father’s. They were of an age and both were hard bastards focused on martial pursuits. There’s a decent chance he really was by just to pay respects, he was a straightforward man, but it doesn’t matter. He will take word of this back to his cousin, Lord Eustace, and that means Lord Clarence Crabb and Lord Fergus Hardy will also know before long. You’re going to need to deal with them, and soon if you don’t want to appear weak.

On the morning of the third day, the blacksmith comes back with Ciara and they work on fitting the brace to your leg. You’re forced to grit your teeth through it, but you are able to stand with some aid and even take some tentative steps with your new cane. It brings a rare accomplished smile to your face. Before long, some of the servants bring a copper bath into the room at Ciara’s insistence. You protest, but she insists on helping you in anyway, saying it’s nothing she hasn’t seen at this point. The early critical stages of your care left little room for modesty. An awkward thought.

It’s around midday when she rides back with you to the villa in the litter. You don’t like the litter. Well, you do in that it’s actually quite comfortable, but it just feels unmanly. Litters are for noblewomen and those too old or fat to sit a horse. The swaying takes some getting used to and turns your already sensitive stomach. The sea of smallfolk on the city’s main streets parted like fish in the ocean upon seeing your colors. No doubt memories of what happened the last time you were down this street are still fresh in enough of their minds. Around three hundred dead by the hands of your men and yourself, likely much more after the King worked off his wroth. It takes a little over an hour’s time, but you make it back to the villa without incident.
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>>3867241
Atia meets you at the gate, escorted by Tyrra who is practically holding her back in her haste. You swear she’s gotten more beautiful since you last saw her. And bigger too. Her bump can be seen with little trouble in her red sundress and you find yourself eying her breasts without even intending to. You swear they’re larger, but maybe it’s just been awhile. She’s beaming at you with tears rolling down her face unbidden. “Welcome home, Cormaic.”

Ciara excuses herself as your wife helps you inside. Atia favors your sister with a smile and a thanks, but you’re still not sure where they stand.

She helps you onto the bed once you reach your chambers. “We need to talk,” you tell her seriously.

“That can wait,” she says desperately. She starts undoing your breeches hurriedly as you lay back on the bed. “At least one thing hasn’t changed,” she says appreciatively as she frees you at last. “Can you…” You nod, though you probably would’ve even if you couldn’t.

She eases herself down onto you fully without even taking off the dress. No smallclothes then. “I needed this,” she sighs. “I’ve felt so empty without you.”

You grunt, even her languid pace nearly sends you over the edge in the first few moments. It has definitely been too long. “I don’t see how that’s possible,” you quip, putting a hand on her belly.

“It’s different,” her breath hitches. “This child must be spirited. I’ve never wanted you more.”

“A boy or a girl?” you ask, content to drag this out as long as you can.

“I would say a girl for all the emotions she’s given me, but I’ve also felt so much purpose, so maybe a boy. Who can say? Although I have been wondering, just how many children do you intend for me to have?” She asks, gazing at you with her lavender eyes.

>Well? How many?
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>>3867246
as many as you wish...?
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>>3867246
>At least four
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>>3867246
Enough to survival all treachery against our family.

a bakers loving, Cormaic's dozen, and Atia's oven!
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>>3867246
>As many as you can give me.
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>>3867246
>As many as you wish ... perhaps two-score or more
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“As many as you wish. As many as you can give me,” you say.

“One and the same,” she says with a pleased smile. You finish within moments, but Atia makes little attempt to dismount from you just yet. “You wanted to talk? This is a nice enough seat for me,” she says slyly.

“I’ve heard you’ve been busy,” you begin.

“Oh? And who told you this little tale? Varys? Aodhan? Your sister?” she eyes you intently.

“I suppose all of them. Varys said you had arrangements to take sail if I didn’t make it. Aodhan said you’d been busy, but he refused to elaborate. I don’t know how you convinced him of all people to keep a secret from me… and Ciara has only said that you’ve been distant,” you recite.

“Hmm. Yes, I have been distant. That bitch of a Queen was plotting to have me killed or something to that effect. Your sister stands to gain from it the most, so I kept her out of my plans as a precaution. She’s been nothing but kind and I’m in her debt for what she did for us in caring for you, but you never kept her in close council, so I wasn’t about to either,” she explains.

“That’s fair, I suppose,” you allow. “Though this business about the Queen. Do you have proof?”

“Only what Varys has told me, but that’s more than enough for my tastes. It makes a sort of sense. I’m a foreign woman with a foreign god, and more beautiful than her, I may add. The alternative is Ciara, who is a charming and proper girl who is set to marry the son of one of her pet bannermen. My Papa would have done the same in her position,” she says. “I admit… that thought did anger me some. Doubly so when one of Papa’s emissaries called upon me to remind me of the terms of our marriage contract. Bloody ships, who cares,” she says angrily.

“Atia… what did you do?” you ask with uncertainty.

“I told him he wouldn’t get a single ship unless he found my brother. The thing is, he knew the entire time where Daegon was. To my surprise, Tyrra told me that much right in front of the man. She assumed I already knew as well. Daegon was a Ko in one of those Dothraki Khalasars. Some sort of lieutenant, I don’t know,” she says with a wave of her hands. “Apparently, I’m the only one that didn’t know. Papa has deceived me and for the last time. So, I told his emissary that Papa must bring my brother at once. Papa did not see sense in my approach. He quarreled with my brother and sent his Sorrowful Man to make his apologies,” she says with heat.

“So, your brother is dead? I’m sorry, Atia,” you would try to hug her if not for the fact that she is still straddling you.
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>>3867337
“No.”

“No?”

“Daegon killed this man and sent his head back to Papa. They say he is furious. He wanted to try to sack Pentos, but his Khal would not without seeking out their dosh khaleen. I suppose that means he is journeying far to the east now,” she says sadly. “The emissary only just brought me the news yesterday. He is still here as our guest if you wish to speak with him. Tomorrow though, you need to rest,” she chides.

“Why the urgency to find your brother now?”

“I’ve done my reading, husband. I know who I am and what I am now. I want to stake my claim to what is mine. I want my name and I want whatever Mama left for me in the bank behind the black walls,” she declares.

“Atia… you do understand how dangerous this is, right?” you ask carefully.

“Why should it be dangerous? My family fought against the Targaryens, not for them. If there are any that still hold a grudge, then why can’t you and your men protect me?”

“Who else knows?”

“Aodhan. He swore to continue his duties even if you didn’t wake up, so I made sure he knew what I intended. You always included him in your schemes anyway. Oh, and your other friend, Lord Varys,” she adds.

“Varys?! No,” you say with disbelief.

She puts a finger on your lips. “I didn’t tell him. He came to me and already knew. He said as much when he told me of that business with the Queen. I think he is willing to help.”

“When I spoke to him, he made no mention of knowing,” you say.

“Well, I don’t know what to tell you, Cormaic. We had this conversation a fortnight ago. Either he thought it stupid to discuss such matters in the Red Keep of all places, or he was testing you,” she says with a shrug. “It makes no difference to me. What matters is what you want to do. I won’t go down this path without you. I can’t.”

>Agree to press Atia’s Blackfyre claim. It’s hers by right.
>Don’t, it’s too dangerous.
>Ask more questions of her first. If so, what?
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>>3867328
This. I don't think its possible biologly speaking.
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>>3867347
The record is 69. No joke.
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>>3867346
>Agree to press Atia’s Blackfyre claim. It’s hers by right.
>But before we jump 100% we should talk with Varys
Fuck it. I knew we shuld told Varys about it.
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>>3867378
That makes little sense to agree to now.
>>3867346
We shall talk to Varys first and see what he believes to be the best move.
But tell her, before we make a claim we will have our firstborn, raise an infantry unit and be in a position to walk and meet any man on our own two legs.

We may need to do many things, and standing on our own to feet will help Literally. I am sure she can get behind that. We must Have our child, Be in goodBetter health, And have more power than we do currently.

>Agree to have this conversation once we have more facts from Varys. As well as being abler.

I wouldn't mind pressing the claim but we need to handle any retribution that comes are way if we are to do this.
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I also wanted to check. Do we not get the glory for that fight or was it essentially lost because we almost died?

Also, how will Ciara's necklace not show up under her items? Or does it simply not have stats?I get she won't be doing much with it just curious

And at this point, since I am already being this annoying our resources haven't been updated.

We should really practice with Tyrra more often. She's a fucking beast for a lady knight.
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>>3867346
>HARD NO

At least for right now, it is way to god damn dangerous to start putting forth the name Blackfyre. Robert would hunt us down in record time if he knew our heir had a claim to the throne.
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>>3867413
Yeah, I haven't updated everything yet. You're getting 2 glory. Technically even the loser in a fight is supposed to get 1 glory, but you did a bit better than a loss even if it wasn't exactly a resounding win either, so I'll settle it at 2.

Oh hey, here's a map for you guys. As you can see, Daegon is kinda far away right now.
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>>3867346
>Ask her what she knows, and what shes learned, she probably knows more of this than we do, then we consult Varys.
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>>3867378
>>3867394
>>3867417
>>3867495

Easy enough to work with. Writing.
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>>3867524
I am curious how we can gain more lands narratively? Say we were to vote for that next house of fortunes. Which doesn't make sense we should be rolling wealth cause we can get more anyhow anons.
As well as the wealth for lands at 2:1
Would we literally be "buying" more lands from our neighbors? And we would have to be "friendly" with them as well I take it.
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>>3867563
This is just my take on it, but I think it would be highly unlikely that your neighbors would sell you a domain of land. It's an extremely precious resource, especially where you are from. That said, from a narrative standpoint, gaining the Land can be from doing things such as felling a bunch of trees, diverting a water source, filling in part of a swamp, etc. To me, that's what justifies having things like a Small Town cost and I think that perspective is well-reflected in the fact that some of the supplementary books allow you to purchase things like moats for land. Some of those supplementary purchases can be found in the google drive for House Malroy Quest. (Not that many of them are too relevant for your relatively resource poor house right now, but there are some fun examples in there.)

Oh yeah, and Ciara's necklace/generally improved state of dress will be giving her "Superior Noblewoman's Garb" like Atia for +1 Intrigue Defense. Just realized I skipped that earlier.
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“I would like to make you happy, but I can’t commit to this until after I talk to Varys again. I need to know exactly what he’s plotting with this,” you say. “And I wouldn’t be so sure that I’m able to keep you safe from the trouble that sort of name may bring. At least not yet. I still haven’t even contended with my power-hungry neighbors and this is the sort of thing that Kings get involved with.”

“That’s exactly what I’m hoping for. The King to get involved,” she says. “He would be a bigger fool than he looks if he didn’t seek to embrace me. But I can wait until you have your talks. Only, I would like you to include me as well.”

“That may be something I can arrange,” you say noncommittally. “Why would do you think the King would embrace you? You would have a claim to his throne.”

“Not truly. Even if I don’t have any more cousins with better claims lurking about, which I most assuredly do if I understand even half of what I’ve pieced together of my family tree, then the fact is the Baratheon claim comes from Daeron II’s line. His son Maekar was father to Aegon V who was father to the Targaryen girl who married into the Baratheons. So you see, that whole line has a better claim than Daeron II’s bastard brothers, legitimized or not. And as you’ve said yourself once before when you were bragging about that bow of yours, the Blackfyres are ‘pretenders.’ All I would have to do is publicly acknowledge this King’s claim is best. You may be right about my name being dangerous, but that big fool is the last person I would be concerned with. By all rights, he should reward me,” she says smugly.

“You’ve done your research,” you say appraisingly.

“What else was there for me to do besides read and plot? You left me alone for the past month,” she says accusingly.

“Well I’m back now,” you point out.

She reaches back and grips your manhood. “Yes, you are. Again?”

“Again,” you readily agree.
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>>3867601
The next morning brings fresh surprises. A nuisance you are growing increasingly used to. You hobble your way to your dining hall with Atia’s help and sit down to break your fast. In her own strange way, you would say your wife is taking some pleasure in babying you in your infirmity. She’s hardly let you out of her sight since your return. On a whim, you call for your natural daughter, Esmeralda to join you and she’s ushered in by Tyrra in short order. She’s talking more than she used to, you think. Seeing her reminds you of how much you’ve missed her in your time away. You’d wager she’s grown an inch somehow. She’s a little shy at first, but quickly opens up and babbles about the antics of that mutt of a puppy you gifted her. The thought of a near brush in essentially orphaning her sends a pain through your chest. Maybe that’s just the lack of poppy.

You are joined in short order by an exceedingly tall and skinny… man? This must be a eunuch. If he weren’t bald you would think him an aged woman. Magister Joro’s emissary if you had to hazard a guess. The fact that he’s flanked by two unsullied and is present in your home in the first place makes it a safe bet. He lunges into a sweeping bow and begins to introduce himself, but your mother of all people chooses that very moment to barge into the room. She rushes across the room and showers you with kisses as Esmeralda giggles in amusement and reaches out to be picked up by her favorite, and only, grandmother who obliges.

“Cormaic Boggs were you trying to give me grey hair? You send me off to our lands with all of that uncertainty and then you go and nearly get yourself killed in the same day? I took ship with Lord Eustace and all he had were questions after you that I couldn’t answer,” she says with tears streaming down her face.

Who will you talk with first?

>The wrong-footed emissary. Global politics.
>Lady Shona. Local politics.
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>>3867603
>>Lady Shona. Local politics.
We should hear about our neighbors and all that we can gather there. Some talk should be tabled for when we have a monthly meeting with the family.

Once we get a chance to talk to Varys again, we should ask about our neighbors again and see what they've got in the works that he knows of.

We also need to know who are our neighbors and where we stand with them. Who will likely need the weapons we can offer and more importantly who we should sell the weapons to.

Varys could help us with who will be burdened by debts and their military needs/and burdens. And we can make plans from there.
It seems like the Brunes we shouldn't fuck with as we are friendly with them even if we do want another domain. But we should see what are our other options. And more importantly in private chat with our mother about these things as she is in the know along with Ciara and our top men about our neighbor's and their militaries. And any claims or issues we could bring forth to gain new lands.
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Just realized it's after midnight and I have a lot to do tomorrow. We will pick up on Sunday. If you guys have any demands or angles you want to take with either your in-laws or your neighbors, then feel free to hash it out and I'll do my best to work anything in within reason.
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>>3867603
>Lady Shona. Local politics.
Best get our house in order before we look outside of it.
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>>3867603

>The wrong-footed emissary. Global politics.

Don't want him having too much juicy info on our house.
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>>3867690
It is what it is.
Why does it matter? It is in his best interest if we get stronger faster. Our father in law is his master. He needs us to gain ships sooner rather than later. And for him to help our enemies in any way would be a disservice to himself.
>>3867642
Would you be able to give us a description of what exactly would it entail having a maester other than handling ravens/letters for us?
Like do the specialties imply anything?
Sailing? He knows sailing and has connections giving us someone we can commission a ship for? Or simply a +1 on something related?
Architecture? Gives us a 10% reduction on building shit?
Does Economics give a +3 to wealth per house fortunes rolls?
Healing?
and so on. if you ever get the chance. I understand if you need more time to think of these things. And we likely won't be getting one with in the next thread. Since we've only 3 wealth and all.
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>>3867603
>>The wrong-footed emissary
He's come so far, just seems more polite.

>>3867703
>Like do the specialties imply anything?
>Sailing? He knows sailing and has connections giving us someone we can commission a ship for? Or simply a +1 on something related?
>Architecture? Gives us a 10% reduction on building shit?
>Does Economics give a +3 to wealth per house fortunes rolls?
>Healing?
By the book a maester is just a flat bonus to house fortune rolls. Any sort of specialties like those above would just serve to determine where his particular skill points lie.
I dunno if Boggs is going to do something more than that but any of the bonuses you mentioned would be way too strong, even a single one of those abilities would be overpowered compared to the rest of the domains in Out Of Strife let alone three of them.
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>>3867703
Isn't our wife and pops in law feuding at the moment?
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>>3867603
>Lady Shona. Local politics.

>>3867703
>Like do the specialties imply anything?
They imply that he is good at them. Ant that he will have 5d6 in those stats.

>>3867928
I don't think so?
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I should probably add, I'm not going to have you conversing about these topics in front of the other person. You guys have consistently voted not to include your mother in some of your schemes so I wasn't going to wrap her into Atia's plan without support and the emissary has no business knowing your delicate local ties.

>>3867703
There won't be any additional benefits beyond the +3 to house fortunes, at least at the house fortunes level, because that would be a little too broken. He would still bring some very specific knowledge to the table. For example, you wouldn't be at a disadvantage when speaking to normally unknown houses if he is a Heraldry guy; he could assist with house fortunes in a stewardship role for Economics (though your wife already does a good job with this); Healing is what it's labeled as, he could heal injuries/wounds and better assist with labor/delivery; for Sailing, he may be able to give some unique insight on ships that may open an appealing door or two for you; Warfare would give you a guy who is very well-read on strategy and tactics, which could help if you're planning for a fight. I'll need to think more about Architecture. I have a couple of ideas for it, but don't want to drop them just yet. And Magic too, that's it's own animal. Obviously he won't know magic, he'll just know of it. That's another one where I have a few ideas that I don't want to spoil. So yeah, I guess you could say it's a lot of mystery box plot stuff that may not come up normally. Essentially, you would have access to knowledge in those specialty fields that you normally wouldn't and knowledge opens doors. Then again, this isn't unique to maesters. All of the personage holdings have something to add from a story perspective.

>>3867928
They're very close to it. Both are more than a little annoyed with each other, but the real hate feud is between Atia's half brother on her mother's side and her father.
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>>3867622
>>3867647
>>3868037
3 Local
>>3867690
>>3867917
2 Global

Local takes it. Calling the vote so I can write a little during the day for faster updates.
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>>3869526
Can’t project power abroad if your home is burning.

Local is the right call
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>>3869764
Agreed
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>Lady Shona. Local politics.

“A moment, mother,” you say with exasperation.

“Honored guest, you have come a long way and if my loving wife has assured me we have much to discuss,” you say flatly, leaving him to guess what she’s already told you, “but my mother has also traveled a long way and it grieves her to see my battle wounds. If you would be so kind, I would see to her concerns and meet you afterwards in my office, where we shall discuss business without interruption,” you say pointedly.

“That would be splendid, honored master, I shall humbly await our meeting.” He sketches another sweeping bow and departs.

“Cormaic, you didn’t have to do all of that for my sake,” your mother says.

“I don’t need Pentoshi whispering about how tenuous my relationships with neighboring houses are. That man is no more a friend to me than Crabb or Brune at present,” you say. “You spoke of Lord Eustace Brune before. I’m told he was to be traveling with Lord Clarence Crabb and Lord Fergus Hardy.”

“I did. It’s strange the changes a few years’ time can bring. Clarence is still as focused as ever upon trade, doubly so now that he is a lord in his own right. Fergus is even more lecherous and ill temped than I recalled, but still more or less the same old man,” she frowns. “It’s Eustace that grabbed my attention. He is more than the man he was when last I saw him. There was a certain amount of deference from the other two towards him. Not much, mind you, but they at least considered their words more than they normally would’ve. He was kind enough to stop at your hamlet in passing and offered safe passage to me in the process. We traveled to Pynewatch briefly, but Maeve was indisposed. Her mother welcomed us in her stead. Clarence Crabb and Old Hardy made their way there by land and took ship from there. House Hardy lost their ships in the great storm that swept past Dragonstone along with a couple of fishing villages. Even Pynewatch was battered by it. Nasty business. Our own lands were affected, but the Blackwater beaches were sparsely populated to begin with and the hamlet on the other coast is fine.”

“No one saw fit to tell me of storm damages,” you grumble.

“Likely because we had no losses to concern you with,” she says with a shrug. “I only bring it up again because I thought you should know of House Hardy’s losses if you’re going to be negotiating with them.”

“Fair point, but I’ve never agreed to sit down with them, not have they asked,” you say.
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>>3870030
“Then consider this the ask. Lord Eustace brought it up several times and the other two didn’t bicker with him over it like they do everything else. I couldn’t say whether they taste the blood in the water after hearing of your wounds from Ser Dustin or if they are more interested in negotiating now that you’re basically ‘Ser Pyne’ as well. Would that you were truly… Maeve is such a sweet girl. I did get to see her so long as the men weren’t about. Lord Eustace was easily distracted when given a chance to see his late son’s bastard daughters for the first time, and it gave us opportunity to speak in private. She looked as pretty as when I last saw her, though she confirmed she is with child,” your mother smiles. “She is quite worried given the news of your health. She asked of you a great deal, you know. You should at least write to her,” she prods.

“We will see,” you say uncomfortably. “She is not my wife. I’m more concerned with why the lords spoke with you instead of sending me a raven.”

“Maybe the are simply used to speaking with me. Maybe they think you to be a boy still. Honestly, I would say it’s a bit of both. Clarence is the youngest though still around my age and I’m five and thirty. You may have fought in the war, but so did all three of Eustace’s sons, even the youngest. Hell, Fergus lost a couple of his in the fighting including his firstborn and now his heir and grandson is at least your age.”

“And what exactly do they wish to speak to me of?” you ask the obvious.

“Alliance,” she says simply. “The Celtigars and Velaryons are doing the same along with their banners. Some brooding younger brother of the King has taken Dragonstone and the Valyrian Houses see the opportunity to stake old claims. They must think the boy lord a weakling who won’t stir himself. He certainly took his time sieging Dragonstone. Rumor is the true heir to the Throne escaped in the storm due to his over caution. What matters is all of our houses are weaker than ever. We can only claim to strength if we are bound together.”

“With Eustace as the first amongst equals, I’m sure. If I didn’t know any better, mother, I would say those are his words you’re speaking now,” you accuse.

“His words rang true enough to me,” she confesses. “It’s not for me to decide who is placed above whom. That’s for you four to work out.”

“Only the four of us? Last I checked, Cave and Pyne and the Brownhollow Brunes still existed,” you point out.
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>>3870031
“Both Cave and the other half of the Brune clan will be doing whatever Lord Eustace tells them to do and as much as I care for Maeve, you speak on her behalf. You should do right by her, but it is still your call in these external matters,” she says. “Why would they waste time adding more voices to what I have no doubt will turn into a shouting match with just the four of you? That show can come later when the important decisions have already been made.”

“Alright. Then how do you propose this is handled?”

“Your sister’s wedding is in two days… little time to meet before then, but a day or two after should be acceptable. Although, you may want to consider seeking one of the three out in advance,” she thinks aloud.

“Go on.”

“All of them are going to have their agendas for what they’re seeking. You should have your own as well, though I don’t have the slightest idea where your mind is on such. You should trust your own mother more, but I suppose it could be worse as they certainly won’t know either what you want either. It would help if you met with one of the three lords in advance and agreed to terms. I don’t doubt they’ve already been conspiring amongst themselves and it isn’t fair that you are going into this blind. Step into the room with an ally and you can start out ahead instead of behind,” she says.

“Who would you recommend if I was to go ahead with this?” you ask.

“You honestly couldn’t go wrong with any of them, Cormaic. Lord Clarence is the most trade focused and pliable after his house’s many losses in the war. Though he likely feels a little slighted over your deals with Maeve behind his back. Lord Fergus… I never know what he’s going to do next, only that he will be his abrasive self when he does it. He mentioned some business over fighting in a war camp, but it’s hard to say how seriously he felt about it. He’s not one to forget a grudge, but I’d say he may even have more bones to pick with the other lords than you, so maybe that’s for the best. With the sheer amount of offspring he has, he will probably want to talk marriages and the like. It’s moments like this where I wish I convinced your father that having more children would be better… Lord Eustace is a little different than the other two and your standing with him is likely to be the most complicated. As far as I know he has no grudges against you yet no reason to love you either, but it’s hard to say with him. I don’t know what he’s playing at, but he hinted at something big,” she says.
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>>3870033
“Bigger than this grand alliance scheme?”

“I don’t know. Likely not, but something ambitious knowing him. You’ll find out one way or another what all of them want. It’s just a question of whether you want to sit down with one of them first and try to come to an understanding before all four of you start making demands of each other as you men are wont to do,” she says with an eyeroll.

How do you want to play this? You can invite one of the three over for a private meeting tomorrow. You don’t have to though.

>Meet with Lord Clarence Crabb early
>Meet with Lord Fergus Hardy early
>Meet with Lord Eustace Brune early
>Don’t meet with any in advance. Just have your meeting in a few days as a group.
>Don’t meet with them at all.

I’m dropping this early so you guys can have more time to discuss what sort of things you want to make a condition of working together with the other Clawmen. Obviously, they will be asking things of you as well. The difficulty in convincing them will depend on how big of a demand(s) you make and whether you are willing to cede to their wishes as well. Next update will be tonight at 8pm EST. I’ll call the votes at 7pm EST.
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>>3870034
>Meet with Lord Eustace Brune early
Gotta try and get in with the big cheese early, show him we're keen on making sure the Celtigars ain't getting shit
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>>3870034
>Meet with Lord Eustace Brune early
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>>3870034
>>Meet with Lord Fergus Hardy early
Let's nip the whole fight between our camps in the bud.
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I'm actually gonna leave this open for the last hour before we resume in case anyone else that didn't check for a daytime post wants to weigh in. Getting started on writing the bits not relevant to the vote outcome now.

Still curious as to what sort of things you guys want to demand of your neighbors. It's pretty open-ended. Or maybe that's something to revisit after speaking to Varys about the Blackfyre stuff and hearing what they want themselves?
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>>3870034
>Meet with Lord Fergus Hardy early
We can use some of their seaman.
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>>3870162
>>3870176
>>3870384
>>3870800
Oh man, a tie. I'll give it a few more minutes for the tiebreaker since I'm still typing anyway.
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>>3870820
Does anyone else know of our shipping plans? Do the other lords know?
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>>3870824
Aside from Lord Eustace knowing you are constructing a small docking area that is just as useful for merchants as it is for warships, no. Your marriage was kind of out of the blue to them and they would have no way of knowing the details yet. To my knowledge, you never even discussed it with Maeve.
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>>3870836
Are the docks protected from storms? Like is it built a little out of the way or located more inland in the bay of crabs?
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>>3870867
Yeah the hamlet with the dock is on the Bay of Crabs side.
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>>3870034
>>Meet with Lord Fergus Hardy early
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“I would speak with Lord Fergus. He and I have much to settle, it seems. Could he be here on the morrow?” you ask.

“I would think so, if his grandsons can steer him this way. I would warn you, he isn't an easy man to converse with,” she says.

“Better to get it out of the way rather than endure it amongst the others. And mother? Thank you,” you say with some sincerity.

“You never need to thank me, Cormaic,” she beams at you. “Now, I’m off to see your sister over this sept folly. I raised her better than this. I’ll want to speak to this boy she’s caught as well.” A touch late for that , you think.

Atia returns from conversing with Tyrra and Esmeralda. She’s absolutely thrilled that your natural daughter is taking to her foreign tongue. You still haven’t had the chance to show off your own progress. She takes your arm and helps you hobble across the villa to your office. There’s a moment where you stumble and throw yourself towards a wall rather than bring your wife down with you, cursing all the while. She giggles at your plight. “A cripple and a woman fat with child. What a team we make,” she says playfully.

You have her half pinned against the wall of the hallway, faces inches apart. She brushes some strands of platinum hair from her face and looks to you with lavender eyes dewy with excitement. This is the closest together you’ve been in more than a month. Even inside of her the night prior you were separated by her growing belly and her inability to lean on your broken ribs. You steal some kisses in the moment, uncaring of who sees. Her mouth tastes of jam and honey and desire. Some servant girls from the courtyard giggle and dart out of sight.

“We must needs be going, my lord,” your wife says breathlessly.

“I’m no lord,” you remind her gently.

She kisses you clumsily on your bearded chin one last time. “Not with that attitude,” she chides. You pause for just a moment, having a sense this is a conversation you’ve had before, though you can’t quite place it. She steals one final soft kiss and drags you on your way, holding your arm tightly as you both take slow and steady steps.

You find the gangly eunuch of an emissary fiddling with his nails in your study. Atia helps you to your seat across the desk and unceremoniously plops down onto the sofa to your right across from the bookcase that dominates the opposite wall.

The emissary glances at her with some discomfort. “Honored master, as I was saying earlier, I have the pleasure of being the emissary Lonoth of the Magister Joro Lopathis, styled The Magnificent amongst friend and foe alike,” he announces in a high pitch. You try not to wince, hoping this conversation doesn’t drag on longer than it needed to. “I must beg your pardons, but might we speak alone of matters of import?” He glances towards your wife.

>Insist she stay as well
>Ask her to step out
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>>3870935
>Ask her to step out
We will tell her everything either way, she can even listen from a hole in the wall.
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>>3870935
>>Ask her to step out
Second telling her/letting her spy.
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>>3870935
>>Ask her to step out
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>>3870956
>>3870991
>>3870999
Smooth. Writing!
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>Ask her to step out, with a hint

“My love, would me the kindness of stepping out for now?” you look her in the eyes pointedly. “Stay close by, if you please.” You hope she caught your meaning. You’ve felt an inexplicable connection to her since your wedding, an understanding of sorts that is hard to give words, and you feel, you know, she’s of the same mind.

“Of course, husband. I’ll be at your call,” she pats your good leg with a smile and departs.

The emissary seems to sink into the cushioned chair. “Thank you for your hospitality, Master Cormaic. In truth, I was originally dispatched to ensure your house would keep to the terms of our contract. We had thought you lost, but those rumors were blessedly unfounded. Only… your most beautiful wife, the Mistress Atia, has given my illustrious master cause for further concern. She has been most defiant and has threatened actions in violation of our contract in some misguided bid to do business with Ko Daegon, despite her father’s best intentions to the contrary. It saddens me to bring this news to you, but Magister Joro demands this insult be set to rights and further contact with this Daegon be dissuaded.”

“Elaborate,” you order, hands steepled together upon the desk as you lean forward.

He seems unsure. In your opinion, a poor quality in an emissary. “We… would like an apology rendered and assurances that the terms of the contract are ironclad. In addition, the great Magister insists his daughter be reigned in to cause no further trouble with the outlaw Daegon, who will be dealt with in time.”

Your response?
>Defend your wife
>Reassure the emissary
>Write-ins are great, as always

Oh, and either way I’m gonna need 5d6 for some smooth intimidating
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Rolled 6, 3, 6, 1, 5 = 21 (5d6)

>>3871118
>Defend your wife
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>>3871125
"You DO realize that He gave offense first, no? The contract stands, as my distraught wife spoke in both haste and anger, BUT and I do stress BUT, his deception caused her great pain. Furthermore I AM LORD OF MY OWN HOUSE. You , nor your master, can command me. We are partners, not servants as your master seems to be implying. For his deceit to my family he should be the one apologizing.
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Rolled 3, 5, 2, 4, 1 = 15 (5d6)

>>3871125
>>3871140
rolls
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Rolled 3, 5, 5, 2, 6 = 21 (5d6)

>>3871125
The terms of the contract may proceed as agreed upon, but if you insist on putting caveats after the fact to our established terms, then I must do the same, you understand?

>Make some extortionate trade concession demands, like they cannot trade with any other houses but ours on the mainland or something
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>>3871125
>>Defend your wife
"For a eunuch, you sure do have some balls for telling me how to treat my wife."
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>>3871125
>>Defend your wife
Man.. I would have insisted she stay in the room..
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>Rolled 20 vs DC 12
>Success, 2 degrees

“For a eunuch, you do have balls telling me how to handle mine own wife,” you observe as his eyes widen. “The terms of the contract stand, as my Lady wife surely spoke in haste and anger in her passion. I am a man of word and you give insult suggesting otherwise. Tell me, emissary, are you aware of the tradition of Guest Right?”

“I… yes,” he hesitates again. Too many mistakes.

“Then you understand it to be as much a tradition as your keeping of contracts. It keeps you alive at this very moment. You come into my home and seek to dictate the terms of your master to stay the hand of his own daughter, a woman I love, and to command me, as if I am but a servant. Now I find myself seeking an apology, and compensation for my wasted time,” you grind out.

“There must be some mis---”

I AM LORD OF MY HOUSE, NOT YOUR MASTER.” A slip of the tongue from your earlier conversation, but your misstep only seems to cow him further.

“I-I will convey your message at once, my lord.” He bows deeply and hurries from the room.

You lean back in your chair and take a deep breath… then the bookshelf on the left wall shifts. You look over with surprise as your wife pushes it aside with some effort. She smiles at you mischievously. “I had Tyrra search this entire manor when I feared the worst. The Spider had to have a way in and out. This passage goes from here to the bath house and down to the stables in the other direction. An escape passage, though it serves other purposes.” She strides to your side and looks up to you “You defended me. Thank you for your words, my flame.”

“I spoke the only words I could. Are there any more surprises I should be aware of?”

“Squeeze my teats,” she says casually.

You raise your eyebrow, but see no point in denying her with your business concluded. You reach up and give them a hearty squeeze. They are bigger than before, you’re certain now. Softer where they used to be firm. Pleasant, comforting even.

She just rolls her eyes, though makes no attempt to remove your hands. “The cane. My likeness on the cane I gifted you.”
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>>3871348
You look down to it and examine it more closely. You press upon the quartz figurine in your wife’s likeness and feel some give. There’s a click. You pull and draw a blade not unlike that of your typical stiletto from the shaft of your cane. “You are a wicked woman,” you say with a rare smile.

“Wicked? Is this wicked, my lord,” she asks with a mock gasp. She slips her dress over her head for the first time since your return and looks to you with some shyness. You drink in the sight. Her belly is notably larger, and her breasts are fuller than the apples they were before your injury. All of this a result of your child she carries.

“Am I still beautiful to you?”

“More than ever.”

She leans over the desk. You hasten to enter her… and fall to the side as soon as you feel her wetness, your leg giving out at last. You stare up to the ceiling, the throbbing of your leg the lesser of your hurts at this particular moment. Your wife doesn’t laugh this time. She instead lowers herself to the rug and a nestles her rear into you, guiding you in. You hold her tightly, press your face into the nape of her neck, and take your time.

You wake the next morning still upon the rug with Atia in your arms. She stirs when you rise and together you shuffle back to the main chambers. You ready yourself to face the day. If your mother wasn’t exaggerating, Lord Fergus should be imposing upon you in a matter of hours. You still need to consider how to approach your neighbor. These things typically handled man to man and bringing your mother or Atia into it could be taken as a sign of weakness, but your mother already knows Lord Fergus well enough and Atia is twice the negotiator you could ever hope to be.

There are pros and cons across the board, but how you will you play this?
>Being Atia
>Bring Lady Shona
>Bring Both
>Handle this alone
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>>3871351
>>Being Atia
We are going to need her once we threaten the fuck out of him.. good cop bad cop.
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>>3871351
>>Being Atia
We just need her to bargain the shit out of this deal. She can come in once we ask her to. After we smooth out the camp issue and start talking terms.
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>misspelled a word in the vote prompt

Yep, time for bed. I'll pick up tomorrow. I may have a post up during the day tomorrow like I did earlier today if I find the time, but regular posting will resume at the normal time. Thanks for playing!
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>>3871351
>Bring Atia
Wife is best

I wonder what other kinky stuff she’d like us do...
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>>3871351
>Handle this alone
Were dealing with a bunch of ornery clawmen here. The last thing we need is for them to think us weak for having a woman do our negotiating
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>>3871675
I am with you on this. But we would be better off having her in the room knowing exactly what we want and her bargaining skills.
I would rather be underestimated. It's not like we're not going to start with an intimidation roll anyway. Coming from a cripple and a pregnant woman, he will feel he has the upper hand.
And our wife lays down the fucking law with negotiating. Whatever it is he wants. He will have weapons for sale that could benefit us both. And put an end to a small feud the fucker has with us. We may just try and make a deal with him to give him half off what we gain from the trade as long as he can provide us with some good along with a way to get past his issue. He picks them up from our townhouse of course.

We've also have to look for a way to offload some portion of the food we make in surplus.
Bogg you sure we still making that much of a surplus with our new population's additions?
>>3871351
>>Bring Atia
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>>3871780
>Bogg you sure we still making that much of a surplus with our new population's additions?

Yup. I ripped the concept from Malroy. Here's a screenshot of it. 1 off on Pop and 2 off on Power from the next thresholds.
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>Bring Atia

You ask your wife to join you in the main dining hall to await Lord Hardy and she readily agrees, dressing smartly in the green of your house along with the necklace of pearls from her nameday and earrings of dragonglass in the shape of fangs. You compliment her choice of coloring, it’s rare to see her in greens. She complains that too many other women of your house go about in the color. You pass the time feeding each other grapes and the like at the high table, making a game of it. Eventually, your mother walks in and says with a strained smile that Lord Hardy is without. You have her welcome him in.

“Cormaic Fucking Boggs, you mad bastard. Any torches about? No? Good. Wouldn’t want to catch fire like kindling. City’s drier’n the queen’s cunt to begin with,” Lord Fergus Hardy says by way of greeting before clapping you on the shoulder and taking a seat. A tall man well over six feet with a wild white beard and hair to match. Sixty if he was a day, but more likely be past seventy if what you’ve heard is true. Still lean and active though, despite his age.

“Lord Fergus Hardy. A pleasure,” you say.

“Drop that lord shit, boy. That’s for outsiders. And it ain’t a pleasure. The wench I had last night was a pleasure, heh. This’s a sit down,” he responds with a mad grin, showing too few teeth. He somehow notices your wife for the first time and his grin widens. “This pretty thing’s the sorceress I been hearing of then?”

For her part, Atia is clearly more amused than anything. “A sorceress? Like a maegi?” She brings her hand to her mouth to stifle a giggle. “Be careful I don’t put a spell on you!” she teases.

“This is my wife, Atia. She’s from Essos, but not a sorceress to my knowledge,” you supply.

“Heh. Tis what erryone’s been saying. A sorceress tricked you into drinking a love draught and glamoured ‘erself to your eyes. Led you round like a lovesick pup, they say. Made you worship some fire god and cast aside the Old Way. Feh. Dunno how much is true in all that, but she’s too fine a thing to be needing glamouring and potions I say. Unless I’m being glamoured right now… am I?” he demands with narrowed eyes.

“Not by me, my lord,” she says with a smile. “How would I if you haven’t taken drink yet? Nor have I casted any spells, as you can plainly see.”

He stares at her a few moments longer before settling back in. “Hrmph. Your words speak true… and give me thirst. Still drink ale in these parts or has this southron court made you soft,” he goads. You frown and set aside your wine glass, calling for ale instead. “Still makes me curious, and meaning no offense lass, but you mean to treat with me with a woman at your side, Cormaic?”
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>>3872080
“Atia was an accomplished merchant before we met. She keeps my books now. You want terms, she stays,” you say.

“Don’t worry about my delicate ears, I’ve been on enough ships to know how you menfolk speak when proper ladies aren’t about,” she adds.

“Passing odd, but I’m not ‘ere to tell you how to run your affairs,” he says with a shrug. “Some sense in keepin’ a bookish sort about. Might be I’ll do the same then. Don’t care for the written word much meself. Girl, fetch my grandson from the yard. The one without the axe. Other one’s no good ‘ere. And’nother mug while yer at it,” he calls to a serving wench.

Another tall gangly Hardy comes in, this one beardless and hardly older than yourself if he is at all. You don’t get the impression he’s the fighting type. He comes dressed in a doublet and lacks the blades his lord grandfather keeps about his person. “This’ns Luken. Not my heir, but one behind ‘im. Heir’s outside in the yard waiting. Not a bookish sort, that one, but woulda given me a run of it on the field even in me prime. Their Da fell same place as yers when that little shit Connington thought to play at lording. Bloody waste, all that. Upjumping fools like that almost make me think old Aerys really had lost it,” he spits.

“Pleased,” Luken Hardy says with a nod of the head which you return. You glance him over and don’t get the impression of a craven, just a shrewd type.

“So. You invited me here for terms eh? Thinking to get a… leg up on the competition,” he nods to your bad leg with a complete lack of subtlety and smarmy grin. “Might be I’m of the same mind. Way I see it, you and I’re the weakest of the four. Might be that needs changing. Only thing is, how’re you gonna make this worth my while? You asked me a few months ago and I’d say all you bring to the table is that fine flame-kissed lass with the great big teats, some pearls, and those Sparrowhawks. Hard men, aye, I seent yer work, but now their captain has one good leg, yer sister’s marryin the enemy, and yer pearls are sent overseas to those foreign catamites,” he says as he leans back in the chair and crosses his arms.

Your look the two over. Lord Fergus and his grandson both eye you intently with their amber eyes. You know the old bastard doesn’t speak to insult, but it does rankle you a touch. It seems he’sjust looking to hear what you have to offer. Marriage options, trade, military, anything. The only question is what to speak of to him in the hopes of winning him over?

>Write-in

>Posting this early and leaving it open to discussion for a bit to see what you guys come up with.

I’m still going to need 5d6 for intimidate no matter what you all come up with though!
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Rolled 4, 6, 2, 4, 4 = 20 (5d6)

>>3872089
At least mention to him the iron deal we have with Brax, I guess. It'll show strength in the economic and military departments.
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Rolled 6, 6, 3, 6, 6 = 27 (5d6)

>>3872089
>>3872172
Ditto,
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>>3872209
jesus
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>>3872209
A crit success. First of the quest at that. Well then.
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>>3872229
Firstly, ask him in return what he can bring to the table. We are of a mind of allying with him because of our similar status as we arnt looking to become someones bootlick and instead are looking for an equal partner. Let him press his advantage for all he's got than drop the hammer that we have a connections to acquire good steel. We could offer to cut him in somehow, or introduce him to Lord Andros and help solidify both of our positions in the coming alliance that Eustace is planning against the Saltygars.
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>>3872089
Mutual military aid, economic assistance, and trade for a start. Perhaps helping them rebuild their fleet of ships, and joint sea ventures.
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>>3872229
Hoo boy, I feel happy about that
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Rolled 5, 4, 2, 5, 2 = 18 (5d6)

>>3872089
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>Crit success. Persuasion ability rank elevated from 3 to 4.

“My leg’s seen better days, that’s true enough, and I’d wager it’ll see those same days again soon enough. Almost an even trade for bleeding hundreds in the city streets. If you both can look me in the eyes and tell me I’m any less dangerous for it, then I’ll concede the point and defer to your better judgement,” you challenge with a hard stare.

They accept and meet your eyes… but not for long. “Gods you’re a nasty little bastard aren’t ya,” Lord Fergus mutters in thought. “Heh. Right enough then. I’ve decided I do like you after all,” he announces suddenly. “You’ve mah attention now. What’re ya offern and what’ll it be?”

“Way I see it, you’re dead on with the pearls, but missing part of the picture with my sister,” you start. “She’s marrying a Westerlands lad, aye, and I’ve a contract for good castle forged steel shipped straight from her goodfather’s forges to me at my beck and call. You and I both know no one else out on the Point has a good steel connection. You want to bleed tax men? I’m your best man for it, simple as that. You want proof of quality, come to the feast after the wedding tomorrow and speak to the man yourself. Lord Andros Brax is his name.”

He gums his mouth in thought for a time and confers with his second, Luken Brax, over to the other side for a few moments in whispers before they straighten up and reengage with you. “Why not? We’ll be there then. Not stepping into a fucking sept though. Now what do you want?”

“You speak on equal terms here, but to the rest of the world you are lord and my husband is ser. I won’t have it. If you want us to be friends, then I want us to be true equals. Cormaic must be a lord too,” your wife cuts in. All three of you look to her in surprise.

It’s a big ask and will make him ask more in return, what do you want to do about it?

>Speak of something lesser instead
>Back her up
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>>3872463
>Back her up
We really should have strategise with her before hand if we were gonna bring her with us.
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>>3872463
>>Speak of something lesser instead
"Because he is a lord and I am a knight, for now, dearest. As much as we are equals in almost every other way, our titles are not, until someone from the red keep decides otherwise.otherwise."
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>>3872463
>>Back her up
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>>3872466
That would have been a good idea.
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>>3872463
>>Crit success. Persuasion ability rank elevated from 3 to 4
Is this a thing..? Im not crying about it. and going from 1->2 and 2-> 3 is only 10 exp so I wouldn't comment on it. I like it, just don't want you to spoil us due to us simply being lucky. Like what if it happens like 3 times in a row in a fight.
>>3872463
>>Back her up
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>>3872463
I was under the impression that only a King or Lord Paramount can actually make someone a lord no? If not, we should back her up and press for it. What's the most he can ask for? A marriage pact?
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>>3872488
Your last crit fail has you hobbling around on a cane right now, so it just felt like a somewhat even way of balancing it on the other end of the spectrum, especially on an important roll like that one. I don't have any hard or fast rule with it, so I'll adjust accordingly in the unlikely event that they start happening more.
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>>3872463
>>Back her up
Is it a simple title difference? Or would this bring about any other changes?
Other than other's simply "have more respect" for us and the sort. Cause we are referred to as lord and such?
I would have thought simply increasing our influence would have made that happen.
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>>3872491
You're right, I think.
>>3872523
Pit and Gallows, inheriting title rather than just land, female heirs can now inherit, the ability to land others, and yeah just general respect.

I'm also not including a shift in title in an influence gain. Right now, you're at status 4, the highest a landed knight can achieve and the starting point for lords. If you want to push the status cap a rung higher then you'll need to reach for it through politicking or a great deed.
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>Back her up

“My wife speaks sense and we are of the same mind in this. What say you?”

“You ask much,” he drawls. “Somethin’ like this is more’n I can grant. But you know that. So, petition the Crown, eh? Need more’n me fer that too. Get Crabb and Brune to agree and might be it’ll work,” he says thoughtfully.

“If you work with me on this, then they should agree too, wouldn’t you say? I’m not asking them for their gold or women,” you press.

“Feh. You know that title is worth more than both. Why else press it? Only thing is, might be gold and women is exactly what’ll be asked of you. What say you to that?” he eyes you intently.

“I’ll work those deals as they come,” you say.

“Good. Start now. I’m not free ya know, but I will do ya the favor of lettin’ you in on what I suspect of the other two. That is, if ya meet mah terms,” he says with his toothless grin.

“What are your terms?” you ask.

“Thought ya’d never ask! Two things. One: Ser ‘Bound by Blood’, a marriage pact tying our houses, and a good one. Gives me a hell of a reason to push your cause if one’n mine blood stand to inherit at some level, eh? Two: ya mentioned proof o’ quality for the steel earlier. That’s good, but I want proof o’f quality fer you an’ yers too. Might be I have a pirate problem now’n that fucking storm saw fit to bugger all mah ships. Methinks it’s one’n them Celtigar shits mucking about. Just one ship in any case. I want them dead. All o’ them. An any prisoners they keep returned,” he says with some cold fury.

“Who do you have in mind for a marriage pact? I have but a single bastard daughter at the moment and she is barely two years. I can’t speak for the unborn,” you say.

“I’ve got whole litters o’ bastards up and down both coasts and beyond. Ain’t nothin’ wrong with em, but I’d be needing something more proper, eh? Hrmph. Some might say you’re a shit son, fer skippin’ o’er her, but happens that mother o’ yers has no husband an’s still a fine piece of arse at that. Meaning no offense. I’d have her meself if I weren’t like to die any fucking day now,” he says with a twinkle of amusement in his eyes. “Luken! So that’s what yer hear fer! The Gods must love ya after all, with em willin’ to give ya a wife an’ all.” His grandson clearly wasn’t included in this plan and his shock is evident.

“Do we have terms?” he asks.

Do you?
>Yes
>No
>Something else
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>>3872534
SO if this isn't possible and doesn't seem like it.
WTF do the Hardy's have to offer? Other than Mutual aid from the brunes? who he has one of his litter off married to?
What does his army look like anyways, making him the 2nd largest force of arms?
We haven't had a mention of the small scuffle between our soldiers, so I would wager that issue is done for with our nice roll and gave us the advantage to boot in negotiations. Do his lands need food, with his large military and what not I guess it could make sense? Especially if we would be taking that business that away from crabbs or the brunes.

Its a given he would stand with us at the next meeting, and not put any undue pressure on house Pyne and our own. But other than that I don't see why it's worth giving him access to weapons. Since we would be siding with him as well so neither of the two big forces swallows him whole as well. And it would sharpen his army and give him another edge to not be fucked with.

I can only imagine these three houses are reeling from the sanctions. Could the 'ol bastard share his incite on these matters while we chat?
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>>3872607
>Yes
On the condition, we speak to our mother first..I've no idea where she stands on this and see where she stands on this.
Well, that's quite the grandfather selling you off to a woman twice your age. But hey seems like the fucker is good at some things.

On a good note we may be able to petition the king based on the injury we got in his city. And we could "forget" about Gyles and have the kings hand help us out with this petition. As a way for us to move past this issue. And give us some hush money. But that plan may work better talking with Varys first.
>Blackmail the Hand of the king, about his cousin's shit behavior in the capital and his family's name. Into getting ourself lord'd along with Hardy's petition.
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>>3872607
So kill pirates and marry our mom to his grandson? I'm down with the first but want to consult mom about the second.

>Hey ma, wanna help me become a lord? Yes? Cool, now marry this goober.
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>>3872608
>What does his army look like anyways, making him the 2nd largest force of arms?
Two units of infantry, two units of guerillas. Capped at that too. He lost his warships.

Yeah, the scuffle is being pushed off with the roll. Helps that you chose to meet with him over the other two lords for that point of pride too. I'll work food talk into the next post.

Mutual military support is at least half the premise of the Alliance, so it goes without saying.
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>>3872635
Agreed.
Consult mother first.
Could Atia negotiate here some how..?
>>3872608
We should also find out roughly how things are monetary wise if he is willing to give us info on the other two houses.
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So Atia is pushing this lord business to get Maeve outta the way right?
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>>3872651
In what way? We would still be the knight or lord of Pyne till the kid grows up in it's own right. It would be good for Maeve if we became a lord too.
These 9 months also give her time to grow her domain and implement another unit or two and allows her to put a hedge knight or two on payroll. Huge expenditure but keeps her from being bullied into doing anything. But she is the 2nd largest economic power around I think.
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>>3872670
Not sure about the rules but
>inheriting title rather than just land, female heirs can now inherit
I think Maeve can now inherit or our child regardless of gender from us and Maeve can.
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>>3872607
I'd see what my mother has to say about this proposal, but I can offer you good steel, and help rebuilding you fleet, along with any problems you may have at sea.
This alone is pretty big if we are going to have joint naval actions and stuff together. Marrying our mother would be icing on the cake.
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>>3872692
>I think Maeve can now inherit
I doubt that. And as for our love child, I don't think so since it wouldn't be a Bogg child it'd be a Pyne.
>>3872699
I wouldn't offer to help rebuild his fleet at all. We don't have power or wealth laying around to help him create new fleets for free. If anything he could offer to help reduce the cost of our next warship to help him with his issue sooner rather than later.
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>Yes, but Lady Shona deserves some input first

“I’m all for killing taxmen, especially taxmen playing at pirate. That aside, my mother may still be in her childbearing years, but she is no maiden to be bargained off without her own word on the matter. I would speak with her first,” you say.

“Ya want ta be a lord, act the part. Shouldn’ need ta ask fer permission ta wed those’n yer own house,” he grumbles. “Fine, have yer talk. Luken wanted ta discuss a small trade o’ food fer furs with yer lovely bookkeeper here.”

Good luck with that, you think, but leave the room with a nod instead.

>Can I get 8d6 for Atia’s little game?
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>>3872710
>help him create new fleets for free
Atia dear look as this silly court jester and laugh a hearty laugh!

>If anything he could offer to help reduce the cost of our next warship to help him with his issue sooner rather than later.
More or less the plan. We sell him ships at a discount basically.
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Rolled 4, 2, 4, 2, 2, 4, 2, 6 = 26 (8d6)

>>3872726
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Rolled 4, 3, 5, 3, 5, 4, 5, 3 = 32 (8d6)

>>3872726
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Rolled 4, 1, 1, 4, 2, 5, 2, 4 = 23 (8d6)

>>3872726
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>>3872734
We don't make ships...
we have neither the resources nor the equipment to make ships. And I doubt our father in law would take kindly to us using his 50% investment and making a direct profit from that. That's a shity thing to do overall. But ive also no idea how that would work narratively and then mechanically. Where we "buy" warships and become the middle man to sell them to someone else. Without it backfiring for dear 'ol dad. His investment in our warships is so he has something handy as well. That we would likely profit from once we do some peacekeeping for him.

>>3872738
24 or 25, either way, should be at least 2 successes. Seems like his Grandfather is going to see him get destroyed in this negotiating tactic. fun fun and more things we could sell off to dear 'ol dad. It is always nice. We may even have gotten rid of a lot of our stored food for a premium/gotten the furs for extremely cheap. They may be having a drought he lets slip mid trading.
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Rolled 3, 3, 5, 1, 6, 3, 3, 5 = 29 (8d6)

>>3872726
Testing
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You find your mother out in the yard with Esmeralda on her lap. They’re watching Tyrra go through her warmup routine. So are the handful of Hardy’s present, to their astonishment. She moves through her dance with an elegance you couldn’t hope to match even before your injury. And flexible too, which may explain the open mouths as much as her obvious martial skill. You make your way to your mother and whisper of your need to talk while you ruffle your daughter’s fair to her annoyance.

You both step into a side room and close the door. “Why the sudden rush, Cormaic? I thought you to be in talks still,” your mother says with concern.

“We are. I am, but you are now the subject of those talks. Mother… Lord Fergus seeks to marry you to his grandson, Luken. Their steward now, I think. In return, he will support me in a bid to become a lord in my own right,” you explain. “The proposition is a tempting, but I refused to give answer until we first spoke. I would know your thoughts.

>Can I get 4d6 for persuasion?
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Rolled 1, 6, 5, 4 = 16 (4d6)

>>3872798
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Rolled 6, 5, 2, 6 = 19 (4d6)

>>3872798
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Rolled 4, 4, 5, 6 = 19 (4d6)

>>3872798
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Rolled 1, 1, 5, 3 = 10 (4d6)

>>3872789
>we have neither the resources nor the equipment to make ships.
neither does he at this point

>And I doubt our father in law would take kindly to us using his 50% investment and making a direct profit from that
What? The ships or the steel? Who are you talking about? Brax or Hardy?

>>3872798
>>3872798
Not looking good.
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>>3872810
I disagree 19 is a strong roll. We likely made a good point.
I would like to ask if we have to give a dowry...Cause doesn't seem like we should be forced to being this is out of a trade deal of sorts. We will also be losing one of the few people we trust in our small council.

>>3872810
You do know Atia's father is subsidising our warships by 50% right?
And if you don't it seems even stranger that you would offer to sell the Hardy's a ship at discount.
We need a minimum of 8 POWER to get basic warships. Just obtaining that much power is going to take us a while. (We will only need 4 for green warships)
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>>3872820
Hardy's don't know that, and we don't have to do the %50 discount, we just sell them a ship at full price without the subsidy and then take off 10 percent.
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>>3872827
>Capped at that too. He lost his warships.
So let's start with that.
Now my issue with this, WHY?
he is at best a neighbor we will be doing trade with and just arrived at a neutral stance. For a 40% profit? We could do that with anyone. Why the Hardy's? Are far as we know they have nothing else to offer us.
Our father in law also wouldnt take to us using our deal to what would essentially be screwing him.

Now I stand by my point. But that being said, if the Crabbs wanted new warships. And they were willing to pay for warships to recoup their losses. On essentially a payment plan. Where we charge intrest, since they should be low money atm. But we are providing them ships. It works out in both of our favors. But we would still be screwing our father in law.
So at best could do that once. And after our initial warship. So it seems we are commits to our commitments to him.
They cant have more military units.
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>Cormaic’s persuasion (charm)
>Rolled 19 vs DC 12, 2 Degrees of Success

You regard her briefly as she thinks it over. She’s still lovely in her way. Eyes of the same blue as Ciara and wavy hair of a rich brown without any hint of grey yet. She’s not as well-endowed as Ciara, though still with some curve to her. You can see where Lord Fergus may have gotten an idea to place her name forward.

“I didn’t think you for one so ambitious. This sounds more like your lady wife’s scheme than your own,” she ventures.

“This is my decision, no one else’s,” you say with a twinge of annoyance. “Mother, I won’t force this on you. You must decide for yourself.”

“I thought myself done with marriages and husbands, both my children grown. You ask me to start over,” she says softly.

“I ask you to decide yourself what you want. To do what you think best,” you say gently.

She’s silent for some time. “Is this boy comely at least?”

“Of all the things to ask,” you say with bewilderment. “I haven’t the slightest idea what you like. He’s tall and beardless. Doesn’t seem disfigured or craven if that’s what you’re concerned with. Shrewd, if anything. I don’t know.”

She smiles. “That will do. It seems mine own mother was right after all. I suppose I shouldn’t be surprised.”

“Sorry?” you ask confused.

“Never you mind all of that. I consent to the match, as it were,” she decides.

“I’m glad, mother,” you say with a smile. “This will be a boon to both of our houses. That is… I don’t mean to pry, but can you still…?”

“I would say I could carry a child yet. I am still of an age. It depends on whether this boy is up to the task. No need to fret over it, Cormaic. Although you must needs hurry back. It wouldn’t do to keep them waiting,” she urges with a small smile.

You thank her again with a kiss to the cheek and leave for the hall.
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>>3872845
For no profits? I said build a ship without the subsidy. Then give 10 percent off. We would probably be losing money or just breaking even.

What is your point?

If it was for us to not take the first deal as it comes along before seeing what the other people want or can offer, then yeah sure.
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>>3872865
>Atia’s persuasion (bargain)
>Rolled 26 vs DC 15, 3 Degrees of Success

You enter to see your wife smugly playing eating more grapes from a pile she’d arranged upon the table. No doubt to illustrate some sort of point. The two Hardy men aren’t of the same mind as her. Luken is pale, looking down at the table, and Lord Fergus is working his gums in disbelief as if another of his teeth had come loose during the talks. Mayhaps it had.

“Husband! How I’ve missed you in these talks! These two men are such fearsome negotiators. They agreed to trade only three units of furs for every two units of our food. As any would surely agree, I explained to them how food is much more precious than frivolous pelts. Why, you could survive off of our food, but certainly not off of fur alone! And after trying to steal one of your most valued advisors from your side as well,” she tsks. “Lady Shona is a capable and experienced lady, as I’m sure we all agree, and it is hard to put value on her worth, so we’ve agreed to drop the issue of dowry for the sake of keeping our dealings honest,” she says with a satisfied smile.

It’s infectious and you find yourself smiling as well. “Fortunate, as my mother has agreed to the marriage as well.”

>I’ll pick up again tomorrow with the remainder of this discussion. I think Lord Hardy owes you some info on the other two lords and what games he thinks they are playing. After that, it’s either Varys or Ciara’s wedding up next. Depends on votes. Thanks for playing!
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>>3872871
>three units of furs for every two units of our food
BRUTAL.
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>>3872871
God damn...I'm surprised the boy isnt crying. I wonder how much she will be able to sell these furs to her dad for.
And how much can/will they buy per month? This is a monthly trade, correct?
>>3872867
I wish I had neighbors like you.
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>>3872871
I think our wife is over powered you guys
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>>3873047
I'm not sure where she got so much experiences from, but 2 level 5 skills and three level 4's add up to 250 EXP by itself, than add the 6 level 3's adds up to 310 EXP. And than her benefits are specifically chosen for negotiating/trading. OP? Maybe. But highly specialized. She is useless at everything outside of this.
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I should've included this above, but the terms of the trade are for a total of 120 units. See pics related for details (the fur is common). You essentially trading 2 wealth worth of goods for 3 wealth worth. Of course, you can try to sell the 3 wealth in furs for more than that, but that requires work.

>>3873109
I ranked up her will to 4 and knowledge to 3 behind the scenes last week to better represent her own changes while you were sleeping off that maul to the chest. It's rare for me to do that, but I don't like keeping primary npcs completely static either. Not that those changes affected the rolls. Merchants gonna merchant.
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>>3873134
Perhaps a little more transperancy in the future? Between our child being rolled behind the scenes and now our wife being upgraded it seems to be becoming a small habit. I dont mea to complain, but transparency is always a good thing online.

Also, out of curiosity what is the xp gain rate for the quest? 10 per thread? 1 per session? Or is it solely given for actions taken? Also, is our progress on learning Pentoshi pushed back a month from our coma?

Sorry for all the questions Boggy Boi. Loving the quest, I just like knowing all the facts
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>>3873215
Sure, I probably could've announced it at some point sooner. I'll do that next time. Didn't really think of it. It wouldn't be something that I would've put up for a vote though, considering she's an npc. Rolling up the first born off screen was very intentional. It should be a surprise if for no other reason than to discourage meta-gaming. Although I have a feeling the majority of anons would've voted for me to do it off-screen anyway considering they did for Maeve's child when I left it open to a vote. I will still post the results in thread when the child is born. I saved the breakdown just so you guys could see it later.

I've only been doing exp for actions taken in sessions, but with the chance to rank up specialties in the natural time-skips that occur. You're good on Pentoshi since it's only rank 1. Rank 2 would take a few months though. I'm also handling language exp a little differently, keeping it at the 10 exp equivalent for every rank from 1 to 5. That way characters that speak more than 1 language aren't total garbage at everything else.

No need to be sorry for questions! Questions/feedback and discussion are some of the best ways for me to gauge interest in the quest in general and I appreciate it.
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>>3872885
What?
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>>3873401
Hes calling you a cunt m8
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>>3873439
I'm pretty sure he's saying that >>3873401 is overly nice by essentially giving free money to neighbours, which makes the guy want to be his neighbour irl.
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>>3873444
Yea that's what I said. Hes calling him a cunt. A bleeding gash?
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>>3873439
You got shit in your cunt or something?

Shouldn't have fallen on that rod.
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>>3873473
God forbid theres a bitta craic on Boggs day off. In american English, hes saying your a nice guy with a big heart. God I hate north americans
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>>3873486
>north americans
Except the word cunt is also derogatory and insulting in British English, paddy.
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>>3873490
>2019
>Speaking the queens

Come out ye black and tans
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>>3873493
Up to my knees in fenian blood
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>>3873486
I'm calling you a shitcunt, not him.

Don't be jealous, haters gonna hate.
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>>3873486
I'm actually running tonight if you can believe it. I'll be back home earlier than usual for a tuesday night. Probably starting in about 6 hours. But by all means carry on, we are at the bump limit either way.
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>>3873494
At least we bleed red like men not orange like dogs

>>3873497
The fact the entire eastern half of your country calls themselves irish leaves you without a leg to stand on

>>3873501
Awesome! Cant wait Boggs!
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>>3873509
>orange like dogs
Dogs bleed orange? Huh, I learned something new today.
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>>3873509
Good thing I'm not Irish then ya dumb cow.

>>3873524
They only have oranges for dogs since they ate all the real ones last famine.
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>>3873524
Oh God you arnt actually dutch are you? Be gone Prot!

>>3873544
I'm sorry for your bad luck. Not all of us can be born on Erin's Emerald Isle. And I'll have you know it was a potato famine that allowed us to colonize so much of the world.
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>>3873918
I am, however I am from the southern part which is predominantly Catholic.
Still, of course I have to support King Billy as he was a Dutchman and would have led our countries to even more greatness if he weren't too gay to have babies.
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>>3873934
I didnt know the Netherlands had a large catholic population. Neat. And in a wierd twist of fate I'm originally from Limerick and so will never forgive King William's ruthless suppression of Irelands true faith. Especially seeing as he was a poof...
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>>3873918
>A mick trying to steal British accomplishments.
Sounds about right. Must still be sore over Brits sleeping with your women on their first wedding night before being allowed the honor of the leftovers.

If fleeing to all anywhere but Ireland is colonizing for you then that is laughably sad. Not even Irish want to stay trapped on that godforsaken rock, where people paint their faces with blue semen, and would rather drink themselves to death when the realized they'd bring another irish into the world they couldn't eat before they were given abortion rights. Now they just drink themselves to death for no reason.
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>>3873996
Ironic that knows it's you all complaining about the accents fucking all your women when we come over. Geebags the lot of them your women.

Well considering somewhere between 30-40 million americans consider themselves of irish descent, that's around 10% of your population I'd say that colonization was rather successful, along with Australia and Canada and pretty much damn near the English speaking world.

Cant sent that there is an alcoholism problem though because there is an issue there, but thatd as low hanging of fruit as saying you all are so depressed by age 16 you decide to shoot up your schools.
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>>3874027
>>3873996
Ladies, can we try and keep this off this board and on a pol board if it has to continue?

I am all for us learning pentoshi. It could be nice for adventures across the sea. I would still max out the 10 exp at 4 and not 5. And more importantly, does the 4 or 5 counts against out max of 4 and 5 skills?
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>>3874045
See >>3873501
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>>3874049
I took that as continuing on with things that have to do with the quest and less about shit slinging, even if this has been cordial while talking about other people's nationalities/home countries.

Well, we should be better off knowing what our new friends know. We can take that into talk with Varys then talk to them both at the wedding about it.
We've plenty to talk about with Varys anyhow. We should talk about our Wife's history once things are cleared up with any info he can give us on our neighbors.
And we should be more than even with that info and what he gave up for reparations with getting ourselves crippled based on his plan. He should be feeling generous we could have him help us with the Lording if we can't get either the Crabbs or the Brunes on our side or even both. Either way, I feel like his lack of knowledge on what Gyles was willing to do cost us more than anyone would have liked, and he should find some way to make us whole. Possibly help us with what we should/could ask for in compensation and how that would work. with the "(such as requesting an audience for compensation)" and how to get the best from that and then add our wife's haggling to that would be nice.
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>>3874045
>I am all for us learning pentoshi. It could be nice for adventures across the sea. I would still max out the 10 exp at 4 and not 5. And more importantly, does the 4 or 5 counts against out max of 4 and 5 skills?

Nah, I won't make language count against the ability caps. I really need to reexamine language to make it more useful. Perhaps have the person with the higher language score go first in intrigues or something to that effect. Not sure, just throwing the idea out for now.

Are people keen on Essosi adventures? It's a little-explored region and I'd be happy to take this more in that direction. Not that I'm going to throw you out there based on this post, but I can certainly plan more stuff for the area.
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>>3874114
It's just a bit of banter with the lads while we wait for Boggs.

>>3874118
Where are you thinking Boggs? I'd be down as hell for Pentos and Tyrosh. Anywhere with slavery because I want to see how a Westerosi deals with the concept.
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>>3874118
>essosi adventures
hell yes I would be, i'd love for us to do like a strike-team thing with varys bankrolling us and the sparrowhawks to take out a high value target
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I am for it so long as you don't try and railroad into it. If there's an opportunity and we take it sure.
>>3874135
Nah it would likely be our father in law bankrolling us to kill an enemy of his if need be. Varys shouldn't have any worries out there. I am sure he is more worried about his pawns in Westeros. Which we could likely do something for him here if it comes down to it.

But we've plenty to do before we start taking side missions that way. And trying to find/associate with her brother. Sounds like a fucking blast, I would love to see a merchant prince of essosi quest
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>>3874155
I'm a little hesitant to trust our in-laws right now with all these shenanigans, but if we sort out the tiff between Atia and her dad I'd be there in a heartbeat
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>>3874176
Well seems like there are plenty of game options that are unique and refreshing.
Leaving us plenty of options.
1. Get our shit together with our neighbor's try and gain that lordship then gain warships soon.
A - Lets us deal with the Hardy mission
B - Shows we are prioritizing our in law's priority to increase our sea capabilities. * And if he requires help we can actually do it*

2. Once we clean up with all our neighbor shit. We press the Blackfyre claim.After being lorded

3. We deal with our neighbor shit and ADVENTURE to find Atia's brother and make some connections.
Or some combination of each and I'm sure I am missing other things. But I think 1 should be our priority. Organize our house so we could stay away for a period of time without everything falling to shambles. Coming back with phat loot from sea voyages and potential new allies and trade deals set up.
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>>3874155
Well that's not entirely true. He could have us help move Viserys and Dany around the free cities for as long as its convenient
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“We have terms then?” asks the impatient older Hardy.

“Aye, we do,” you agree. He spits in his palm and holds it out, so you do the same. Strong grip for an old fucker.

“Yer woman is a hard negotiator,” he grumbles. “Suppose ya’d be wantin’ ta know what Clarence and Eustace are cookin’ up now, eh?”

“I would,” you nod.

“Eustace Brune is a simple case, fer fucking once in his life. He’s wantin’ ta have us all agree ta make House Cave vassal ta his own. Wants a right proper banner house, he does. Methinks he’d need to back yer claim fer yer backing his own. Seems right fair, that. Cave gives up his lordship and you get one. Old Cave aint like to live much longer himself, but that little pissant Osric can still be Knight o’ the Caves or whatever flowery title they deem ta give em. Osric’s the heir, see. Old Cave’s oldest boy. Also happens ta be the good Lord Eustace’s ward after their little tussle jus before the real war. Old Cave lost his nerve an gave Eustace and his Brownhollow cousins cause to take half his land along with hostages. Stupid move tryin ta fight the Brune clans alone. I says Eustace needs ta give me whats should be mine from his little land grab. Supposen he earned the land in blood, but I’ll be wantin’ good coin from em for mah patience with em carryin on so close to mine own lands jus the same. But that’s jus mah ask of em,” he explains.

“Now Clarence Crabb… feh. Man’s not much of a warrior, I say,” he spits in distaste. “Still, clever sort. Must be to be holding on still. They lost the most from this war in men and fines. Even with that he still boasts of being the real trading power round our parts. Big talk from a man with no port, heh. Splains why he’s all worked up about that Pyne cunny ya had. Ya’d think ya personally gave him horns,” he says with a cackle. “He wanted her bad. No doubt fer one of his sons. I heard talk of him boasting of building a road from his own seat ta Pynewatch an uniting both houses. Seems ya fucked that right up. Not saying one of them wouldn’t still have her after she whelps yer bastard, but it would still be an insult ta be having yer leavings. Not ta mention them not wanting ta raise yer bastard none neither. Dunno what ya want ta do about it. At least building that road would be a start, but might be he’d want more than that now.”

The conversation slows to small talk afterwards, your business all but concluded for now. They depart after another hour with the promise to be back by tomorrow evening to partake in the feast in honor of Ciara’s wedding, so if any further business comes to mind it can be handled then.

There is still some daylight left, leaving you with a couple of options:

>Prep for the wedding/speak with Atia
>Try to speak with Varys about everything before tomorrow
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>>3874262
>>Try to speak with Varys about everything before tomorrow
I want to speak about the wedding. But They made plans without us. They can continue without us. We would be better off planning for our house as a whole.
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>>3874262
>>Try to speak with Varys about everything before tomorrow
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>>3874262
>>3874284
>>3874289
I should also ask: if it's going to be Varys will you bring Atia along too? (Yes, she's already aware of your connection with him.)

>Yes
>No
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>>3874296
>>Yes
But we tell her we will talk about the claim thing after the neighborhood stuff.
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>>3874296
>>Yes
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Westrosi Alliance of Noble Knights.
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>>3874321
Lol should be intresting.
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>>3874298
>>3874301
Alright, I'll get to writing Varys. Probably for the best. It'd be good to dedicate a full night to the wedding.

Just curious, but do some people just not vote when there's already a consensus? I usually try to wait for at least 3-5 to get a chance to weigh in.
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Darn doctors visit took more time than I thought.

>>3874289
>>3874284
Must we go running to Vary's for every little thing? He can plan around our actions, and the happenings in our neck of woods is small game compared to say, the workings of the Vale or kings landing. If he doesn't like it, he should speak to us more often or include us in his plans and co-ordinate.
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>>3874401
I wouldn't call potentially learning our enemies' weak points before we sit down and negotiate with them a little thing.
Along with our wife's claim to what her family name is entitled. At least a rough look at how that could be done.
Along with what his thought are about getting us a lordship. And our best way to get it with the next round of negotiating.
Seems like the Brunes would be easy to help his claim and he will help ours.
But we may be able to wrangle it up without giving the Crabbs anything.

By playing up our compensation for our injuries, along with Arryn forcing his cousin giving out some gold along with that for the slights of Gyles. It makes us a bigger player in Westeros. Moving on up to Lord, means we aren't a little shit anymore. We may have a small domain, but potentially we can expand given time. Of course, the person to best gauge how well this could work might just be Varys. And with the queen favoring our family and whatnot, I don't see why we should give the Crabbs anything if we can help it.
We might sell them weapons as a friendly gesture if they can provide something of value to us. But best believe the Crabbs want lady Pyne and her lands. And they will be dealing with something that has to do with her. And as we told her we will try not to screw her over as it isn't in our best intrest to do that either.
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You stare at your wife after your guests have departed and you’re on the way to your study. You first found the same servant you used last time and repeated your desire to speak to the master of the house. “We need to talk,” you state flatly.

She sighs. “Because I brought up the lordship.”

“Because you brought up the lordship without discussing it with me first,” you correct.

“I didn’t think of it until the meeting already started and it became clear the old man had little else to offer besides the weight of his title. He has fish, fur, and men. We have plenty of fish, his furs are of common stock, and we get the men either way,” she says with frustration. “Would that you had stronger neighbors… but you’re right, husband. I shouldn’t put you on the spot like that, I just didn’t know what else to do.”

You kiss her forehead. “Try speaking other tongue next.”

Her body goes stiff in shock before she looks up to you with watery eyes. “You… you’re learning my tongue. Cormaic… I love you.”

“Happy nameday,” you say in response. “Tyrra has been helping me learn. I found her teaching Esmeralda and asked to join in. I wanted to surprise you with it earlier, but well…” you shrug, not wanting to dwell on your month apart.

She walks you to the study, beaming all the while, and insists you take the sofa while you wait. She walks off to make water. Apparently a more frequent occurrence when heavy with child. You’re beginning to understand why they say the birthing room isn’t for men, but find yourself drifting off before you can pay it too much mind.

You’re awakened by gentle nudging from your wife as Varys looks to you with amusement from the ajar bookcase passageway. “I should like to know where that leads,” you say as you blink the sleep from your eyes.

“It seems your lady wife has been busy learning the secrets of your new home. Cruel to deny me my little tricks,” he says with a mock pout. “You’ll find the passages connect and lead towards the sea. The exit, or entrance I suppose, is well-concealed amongst a rocky outcrop. But I gather you wished to speak of more than tunnels, ser.”

“I thought an exchange of information to be of interest to you,” you offer.

“Oh, that would be splendid, my friend. Would this be about the Lord Hardy or your lady wife’s Essosi affairs?” he asks while bowing his head to Atia who favors him with a smile in return.

“Both. Lord Hardy has agreed to support my claim to lordship in exchange for the hand of my mother to one of his brood and my assistance with a ship plaguing his waters,” you start.
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>>3874522
“That is most interesting. I did not take you for a man of such ambition, but I am pleasantly surprised. You would better serve both of us in such a capacity. As it happens, I may be able to assist with some information of my own, though I must warn you, it may leave a bitter taste,” he says cryptically.

“Is this information on the Lords Brune and Crabb? Lord Hardy was kind enough to fill me in on their intentions as well,” you say.

“You surprise me, ser. I have never heard the word ‘kind’ around Lord Hardy,” he says with a cynical smile. “But you are mistaken, my knowledge is of the Queen’s intent. Some little birds told me she actually mentioned the possibility of lordship for you had her plan of seating the young Ser Anders gone awry. As you let live and no moves needed be made against your lady wife, you can be assured that such a plan has been all but forgotten with no further evidence of it existing.”

“I should like to meet these birds,” you say with a frown.

“I should like that you didn’t,” he counters. “Neither of you should know of each other. I’ve found that tangling webs makes both strands less effective.”

“So, I bring my petition to the Queen then? It seems I have little reason not to with my oath to her and her apparent willingness to elevate me,” you say.

“That would be the easiest way to go about things, to be sure. However, I would be most surprised if she did not redouble her previous efforts upon hearing your request,” he warns.

“To seat Anders and Ciara in my position?” you ask.

“Just so. Had she succeeded in doing so before while you yet lived, she was intending to name you lord of House Boggs of King’s Landing. A way to mollify any backlash to her appointment, as it could be dressed up as elevating you both,” he explains.

“And leave me landless and powerless? Some elevation,” you scoff.

“As you are alive and active with at least one lord now supporting your claim, I imagine the scales may be adjusted accordingly. For example, I see little reason why the Queen wouldn’t support naming Ser Anders as bannerman to you in addition to lordship,” he ventures. “His power would be yours and you could demand adequate tribute to see your incomes sustained, but the Queen would still have the satisfaction of getting her way.”

“Or I could continue treating with my lordly neighbors and leave the Crown little choice but to accede with such a support base and the claim wrongs committed against me by their former Lord Treasurer,” you point out. He dips his head to your point.

“Yet you would have to give up much to these other two lords, husband, as well as use up your good will with the Crown,” Atia says. “It seems the Queen’s deal could be better as well… what of including Pynewatch in the bargain? Two bannermen would be better than one and would give you more control over that house’s future as well.”
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>>3874527
“My lady,” Varys starts, “I know you and Lady Maeve did not depart on the best of terms---”

“You mistake me, my lord,” she says. “I don’t speak from malice. I haven’t forgiven her slights, yet I have no desire to risk losing that alliance after all of the trouble we went through. All it takes is a Crabb or Brune marrying her in the night and getting her with child again. Cormaic’s child only stands to inherit if Maeve has no trueborn children of her own. I mislike the idea of the child binding our houses being discarded. You heard Lord Fergus today, Cormaic. A husband of hers would see your child dead or exiled. If you were her lord, she would have to gain your permission to wed, is that not true?”

“Lady Atia speaks the truth, my friend. The child will be in danger,” Varys looks disturbed by the prospect, though not nearly as disturbed as you feel at the moment.

“Aye, I can see that plainly enough. What are the chances of the Queen accepting these terms?” you ask. Taking a drink of the wine your wife offers you.

“In truth, it would likely make little difference to the Queen, although Lady Maeve may take offense to being placed beneath you in a more official fashion. She values her independence,” he says.

“It would be for her own protection,” you grumble. “Makes little difference to her affairs.”

“I see no reason why this house must remain weaker to let her play at independence. It isn’t as if we would rule from her shoulder,” Atia says with annoyance.

“It’s your call to make, Ser Cormaic. You may petition the Queen now and rule from afar through bannermen or you may seek to win the favor of your neighbors first if you would like to retain more direct control of your lands. I must say, the former does have the attractiveness of making you more available for… other endeavors,” Varys says.

“And if the King and Council decide against hearing out the Queen’s request?” you ask.

“I mean no offense, my friend, but the King would have likely already forgotten your name had it not been for that dreadful business on the outskirts of Flea Bottom. In fact, I daresay he knows you more by your given name than that you are of House Boggs. He would sooner be rid of his sweet Queen’s nagging than refuse her over such a small matter,” Varys says carefully.
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That’s it for the story tonight. Next session will be on Thursday at 7pm EST. This is a very important vote as it will have far-reaching implications on the future direction of the quest. You will still be apart of the Crackclaw Alliance, if you so choose, regardless of which path you take. I’m happy to answer any questions that you may have on this vote as long as they aren’t blatant spoilers, or something better handled through the story.

Do you prefer to:

>Build your local alliance and attempt to gain the backing of the rest of the other lords, then petition the Crown for lordship. Rule more locally and directly.
>Go to the Queen now without making any further concessions to your neighbors. Rule from afar through your bannermen.
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>>3874571
Several actually.
Wouldn't making house Pyne mean they have to pay us taxes?
Having Ander become a bannerman give us anything in particular? Would we have to find him land to rule from? Would she bestow some herself?

In theory couldn't we at least meet with the Brunes get his deal wher we likely both vouch for each other's thing? And it makes our both of our cases stronger, with the queen feeling like she did less for us. Making it so we owe her less?
It also gives us time to let Meave know what the plan is and chat with our sister about the plan to see how she would take it.
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>>3874571
I've actually been meaning to ask, who are our direct neighbors? And is there any lands the king/queen see fit to place on us? Or our bannerman?
We could likely make this a trade of sorts by using that as compensation for our plight. Giving us uncontested lands surrounding our lands, or some contested lands to our self and enough so we would grow and have Ander potentially rule a small plot in under us?
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>>3874571
Wouldn't the Queens deal put our wife in danger again? I'd rather not put her in danger again.

>>3874585
If she did have to pay us tax, we can just ask for a symbolic amount of 1 dragon or maybe 10 stags.
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>>3874599
>I'd rather not put her in danger again.
I am with you. I am getting that if she does give us a lordship, she may feel like she would still want Anders as head of the family. But with us alive, I doubt he would ever be given that title. And if our Firstborn lives he/she could inherit since we would be a lord in our own right.

>>3874571
I would also like to ask him about our wife's claim and what he thinks about it as a rough idea. Once things are settled amoungst our lands. In theory, helping him legitimize his rule via a blackfyre family member saying he is in the right and whatnot.
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>>3874585
Anders and Ciara would be granted your lands, the entirety of the Boggwood. You could demand tribute from both them and Pynewatch, the exact details of which would be determined at a later date (with votes). For example, if you're familiar with House Grallner, the MC there was paying tribute in silver ore or bars to their liege, House Belmore.

Your seat would essentially be your villa and maybe some of the surrounding farmland if your convincing enough. Your direct power would be your Sparrowhawks.

You could take the time to meet with the Brunes and Crabbs, or just the Brunes if you prefer, but Varys has made it clear the Queen is unlikely to budge regardless. She's made it her little pet project to elevate the newlyweds.

The other option skips her and her pet project entirely and formally petitions the Crown with the backing of the other lords. You could skip out on wooing maybe one of the lords, but that naturally makes your case a little harder.

You can delay the Queen route to speak with Maeve, etc, but trying to appease everyone is likely to leave less for you at the end of the day. For example, it you are going to meet with the Brunes and seek their support for lordship then go to the Queen anyway, then you're blowing your chance to ask for something else from them in exchange for their plot to lower the Caves, if you even want to agree to let them do that.
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>>3874593
Your bannermen would rule their traditional lands in Pynewatch and the Boggwood. You would have a much smaller parcel where you already are on the outskirts of King's Landing. Here's a map. Pynewatch borders Crabb lands (Claw Hollow). Anders and Ciara would rule from the Boggwood at the top with the green X. House Hardy is at the blue X and Cave at the yellow X. Your lands of the Boggwood are bordered only by the Brunes of Brownhollow, and taking land from them would be an absolute mess.

>>3874599
>>3874616

I'm not sure why Atia would be in danger here. Anders would have the land the Queen seeks to sit him on with no need for bloodshed and it would be stupid even for Cersei to risk harming Atia when Cormaic is alive and well, especially since she's given no indication of having a personal vendetta against Cormaic.

This is also separate from the Blackfyre business, which I'm going to dive into on Thursday as an opener just before the wedding. The conversation with Varys isn't quite over yet.
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>>3874656
And I forgot the image...
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>>3874616
Yes but with Anders as a bannerman it increases the risk and the possiblity may linger and the old idea may become fresh in her mind again.

I mean, if we really wanted Atia out of the way so we can get with Maeve.... But that's quit a evil thing to do.

On the other hand, I'm fairly certain we can become a leader in the little group of little lords we'd be apart of. We got goals and the brains and resources to make it happen.

It seems like we are the guy that's giving out everything and getting little in return.
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>>3874656
Ohhh
So taking up the queens offer would mean we are a lord but essentially give up our lands to Ciara and Anders then?
If that's what is on the table from her fucking pass.
Not worth it at all. We would lose all of what we would have worked for. For what our sister and her husband take over our lands. And Maeve mad at us, so we would lose that wealth as well.
If I am understanding this then
>>3874571
>>Build your local alliance and attempt to gain the backing of the rest of the other lords, then petition the Crown for lordship. Rule more locally and directly

Yeah I would rather deal with the Brunes and the Crabbs. Than lose our lands. We can use the queens favor in another way.
Potentially the Brunes fuck up. And we may be able to obtain some of that land once we are strong enough.
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>>3874656
What is our relationship and history with the caves? What if we help the caves weaken our neighbors so we can swoop in and take over?

Are the caves likeable people? Are the neighbors just being greedy land grabbers?

I'm okay with Making Maeve our bannerlady, if she can tolerate it, she won't have people pounding on her door for marriage anymore.

Can we see a little bit of the history of the Caves before we consign them to destruction? What if we ask for the Caves to be our bannermen?
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>>3874571
>>Build your local alliance and attempt to gain the backing of the rest of the other lords, then petition the Crown for lordship. Rule more locally and directly.
Fuck handing our lands over to anyone but our own children.
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>>3874672
Yup, you would no longer have direct control of your lands, leaving you to do other things if you so desire.

Not sure what you would be losing from Maeve unless I've forgotten some key trade detail, which is possible. As far as I'm aware, you have no deal arranged with her aside from the child and implied military aid, which a bannerman is obligated to give anyway.

>>3874675
The Caves have had little to do with your house in recent history. IC you don't know much about them beyond that they're easily the weakest house even with the depleted state of the region because they were stubborn or stupid enough to get into a fight with the Brunes just before the war.

I'll answer anything else in the morning!
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>>3874672
>So taking up the queens offer would mean we are a lord but essentially give up our lands to Ciara and Anders then?
Generally my sentiment too, but I want my cake and eat it too so I'm gonna pester with a bunch of questions before voting.

>>3874690
Well, what do the posses in terms of resources, military, and population? Do their people at least look attractive?
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>>3874675
The crabbs are fucked. And they have been for a while. Not much we can do there, especially if we want that lordship. We agree with the brunes so the caves are their vassals.
Now while we are at it, what we could do for the Crabbs is offer to buy their goods for them whole sale if we can find something they regularly have a lot of.
We can be their port for selling goods and a major trading partner of theirs. Especially if they've any gems or anything like that on their lands. Since we unofficially will get a jeweler eventually. And sell them weapons potentially in lieu of wealth for the first few bulk trades.
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>>3874376
Yup, sorry bossman but if I see my what I'd vote for is winning then I tend not to vote
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>>3874571
>Go to the Queen now without making any further concessions to your neighbors. Rule from afar through your bannermen.

The way I see it the choices are on what part of this quest do we want to focus on;
If we take the Queens offer we'd basically be signing on to be her trouble shooter. Not only would we have let her get a western house in the crownlands but we'd also be on hand.

If we try to go it our own way it's more of a focus on building up our lands and possibly foreign ventures.

That's how I see it anyway.
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>>3874729
What about when she wants us to kill inocent people that upset or displeased her?

Do we not do it and then undo all the hard built up capital we've made with her, or do we break our promise to Atia?
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>>3874729
If you're looking to head off to do more foreign stuff, then yeah, the lack of an obligation to be around directly ruling your lands and instead leaving it to bannermen is the way to go for that.
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>>3874737
That's the choice now innit?
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>>3874754
Is that the best answer you can come up with?
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>>3874118
>Are people keen on Essosi adventures
Not at all, actually.

>>3874321
Based WANK

>>3874571
>Go to the Queen now without making any further concessions to your neighbors. Rule from afar through your bannermen.
This seems really interesting. Something no other quest has done yet.
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>>3874571
>Build your local alliance and attempt to gain the backing of the rest of the other lords, then petition the Crown for lordship. Rule more locally and directly.

We didn't spend shit ton of resources on our land just to give it away. Are you people crazy?
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>>3874879
The investments would still indirectly benefit us.
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>>3874737
Basically. I mean write in exist. But Boggs us giving us the option to fuck off and Adventure that way. But even so..people keep thinking we bent over backwards to gain this capital. All we did was swear to the queen. We didnt do anything special besides that. Not worth mentioning.
And it's not as if this is a plan she has at the ready. She wouldnt know we didnt choose to side with what she wants.
We would not lose much if any favor at all by going our route.
We stay at home and build up like a regular house.
Considering we just crippled ourself so the HOUSE isnt under a crippling debt. I say we continue house building.
Raise our two kids proper and better than our selves. With Tyrra and Anders around seems like an easy bet to get them fighting enough.
And a maester to get them to both read and write. Other skills they can learn off who they are around the most for. Keep fucking shit up for anyone who screws us.
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>>3874694
>Generally my sentiment too, but I want my cake and eat it too

The thing is, you can't do both. You can sit your seat and rule or you can have others do that for you in your stead while you pursue other things. The clawman option entails staying around this area for the majority of the quest. The bannerman option allows you to choose other paths if you so desire. The price is high if you'd like to be freed of your direct duties, but it's the price you have to pay.
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>>3874898
>we go the bannerman route
>invest xp only in archery
>become the best archer in the world, touring from tournament to tournament in Westeros and Essos
Sounds comfy.
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>>3874902
I don't think many people will like that our wife included
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>>3874737
As far as I'm concerned, you're more than welcome to tell her to fuck right off after you gain the title. It's not as if she's handing you a title with no strings attached, so how willing you are to pay her back, if at all, is up to your interpretation. You swore to kill for Varys over her, and he quite likes the innocent.

>>3874902
I may have something neat for archery if you're looking for more of that. How do you feel about swan ships?
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>>3874924
>I may have something neat for archery if you're looking for more of that
I think archery tournaments are really fun. I do suppose it would get stale to do them non-stop, but there'd still be lording in between I guess.
>How do you feel about swan ships?
Google says those are ships with Summer Islander archers on it, but I'm not quite sure what they're good for beside that. Have them as trade ships? Would be a cool bit of flavour, I guess.
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>>3874571
>Go to the Queen now without making any further concessions to your neighbors. Rule from afar through your bannermen.

Handling big picture decisions and exploring sounds way more fun than handling menial tasks on our land.
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We will own Queen a favor and right after that we will tell her to go fuck herself. 4D chess move right there.
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>>3874902
Comfy but boring. I much prefer the prospect of building up our house - even with the Boggwood becoming a bannerhouse it still feels like we're throwing away our child's birthright.
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>>3874961
Both options have house building. I should've mentioned that. House Boggs of King's Landing would still be rolling its monthly house fortunes and with 2 extra test dice from having 2 banner houses (see pic related from the rulebook). You wouldn't have all of the resource gain bonuses that House Boggs of the Boggwood currently has, though you could work up to that again through purchasing trade route holdings. You would be more limited in the holdings you could purchase with your smaller seat/lands, but the personage and lifestyle holdings are still fair game.
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>>3874571
Build local Alliance
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>>3874979
So if we told Ciara to look for a groom in another area would this have gone another way?
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>>3874996
probably..Her husband is a bastard of a bannermen of the queen's family. This was simply the perfect storm.
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>>3874996
Sure, the Queen likely wouldn't be interested enough to help you unless you did a bunch of things for her first.
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>>3875000
It's really neat that that Boggs was able to string this mess together. Most of the stuff that's happened to us is mostly our fault because we voted for it
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>>3874571
>Build your local alliance and attempt to gain the backing of the rest of the other lords, then petition the Crown for lordship. Rule more locally and directly.
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We still have to build those warships to meet our side of the deal
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>>3875246
I thought we were buying them because free cities had surplus or something
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>>3875257
what...no They are limited in the number of ships they can have and that is part of the deal they agreed to since they lost the war. Limiting the number of naval ships they can have.
A loophole would be warships that their allies have isn't limited.
So we will get subsidized warships so long as essentially our father in law can use it as well when he absolutely needs it.
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>>3875289
Yeah that what I would imagine surplus coming from. You know they lost, now they have limits so some of them need to get rid of the boats.
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>>3874571
>Build your local alliance and attempt to gain the backing of the rest of the other lords, then petition the Crown for lordship. Rule more locally and directly

In before samefag. No, just lurker. Me thinks we have but allot of blood(literally) sweat and tears into setting up our little fief. The Queen seems like the easy way out, and I am not keen on giving up our seat of power.
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>>3875306
Pentos lost to Braavos about 75 years ago, so it isn't a Pentoshi surplus. You can still spend your resources to get ships from the famous Braavosi shipyards. They won't sell to a Pentoshi magister because of the laws against Pentos having more than 20 total ships and hiring sellswords, but your coin is as good as any other. If half of it happens to be donated to you by a caring member of your extended family, then so be it. Loopholes are a Pentoshi magister's fetish. You could also buy from the Celtigars/Velaryons. Now that discussion would be fun to write.

>>3875351
No big deal, I try not to buy into samefag drama.
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>>3875257
What? I thought we were building ships to make a merchant trade fleet with Atia's father? He said he would help us financially cover half the building the ships cost?

>>3875306
If you're talking about the Hardy's their ships and port got battered in the recent storm.

>>3875289
How many ships are the Hardy's limited to?
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>>3875396
Ok. We still can get BIG one right?
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>>3875396
What kind of ships do they have for sale? Would the all be the same from a mechanical game standpoint?
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>>3875396
Before I forget to mention this again. Boggs when you start new thread remember to add link to archives.

>>3875399
I was just confused about ships.
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>>3875399
Atia's father doesn't care about making merchant ships for you, he has dozens of his own already. He wants warships to protect his interests.

None of your houses are limited on ships. You could always ask Varys on why he thinks that is.

>>3875400
Yup, you can still commission a flagship.

>>3875402
I'll dump options whenever we get around to purchasing them. Not sure when that will be with how resource starved you guys are right now.

>>3875405
Sure, I'll add the links to the OPs. Thanks for the heads-up.
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I feel like you guys are worried about this ship's shit and overcomplicating things.
We need warships, to help protect interests either our own or others. We are not limited to how many we can have.
Mechanically it should not matter since warship/s vs warship/s will have roughly the same stats. It'll be a bigger thing for more experienced sailors. And tactics of course.

Asking Varys about why there is no limit on ships is interesting and I guess could be tied to our wife's discussion for her claim.

So officially are you ruling we can't get Fishing fleet? I remember it being an issue before.
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>>3875473
I ruled against whaling and changed the holding name to Aquaculture: Pearl Oysters for the house (which should be ready in about 3 months). Nothing wrong with a fishing fleet. I only pointed out that you have no warships to protect a fishing fleet with. You're all more than welcome to purchase the holding before or after the warships though. The only thing stopping you is your lack of resources, which seems to be a recurring issue.
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>>3875517
I have couple question regarding ships.
Are sailor warriors?
Do they count into military limit?
How many sailors there is in one ship unit?
Can we put extra units on ships?
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>>3875539
The ship's crew doesn't count towards a standing army. There are stats for more militant sailors bought in normal units of 100 in the book, but that's a separate purchase that would count towards your limited standing army. I intend on using them to represent things like pirates.

You can put one unit of fighting men on each unit of ships, which would normally be 20 men added to each of the 5 galleys.

On that note, GRRM's descriptions of galleys make no fucking sense at all. Flagships with 400 oars and talk of one that will double that? Caligula-tier. I know people have criticisms of various things in the books, but that is the one thing that really leaves me scratching my head. I spent entirely too much time researching how to make it all sensible and I'm anxious to put all that work to the test.
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>>3875582
400? I don't know much about sailing but that must be one huge ship.
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>>3875582
Wait so would warships would come with sailors but no attacking force on ship?
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>>3875866
I'm only saying they don't come with combat sailors. Those have their own separate power cost. You can purchase them separately, but they would count towards your unit cap... which I suppose basically means you can't purchase them right now. I was just saying they are a typical unit that is placed aboard a ship, but you can attach any one unit to a unit of warships. Galleys were typically defended by their oarsmen otherwise. They had a bunch of them and didn't need them for much when they were already up against another ship. Obviously I'm not making you purchase oarsmen separate from the ship, but that's where their base melee power comes from outside of ramming.

Since I've already mentioned it, you'll have a couple more opportunities in the future to alleviate your standing army cap. Banner houses are one obvious way to do that. Not that there is anything necessarily wrong with the way the vote went. There are plenty of doors still open and sometimes the easiest way of doing things isn't always the most fun to play through.

You're all more than welcome to pitch ideas for the direction of the house yourselves as well. I'd say it's practically a theme at this point that many of my bigger hooks for you guys have obvious downsides. If you want to think outside the box to try to come up with your own solutions to gaining more wealth/power, then I'm more than willing to work with anything that is well-reasoned.
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>Build your local alliance

“I will not go running to the Queen, who so recently plotted against my family, to cede my land to my sister for a title.” You reach over and touch Atia’s belly. “The Boggwood will belong to this child, no other. I won’t leave my heir with naught but a villa and the oaths of bannermen. Oaths can be broken, as we all well know after this Rebellion. Lord Robert Baratheon once bent the knew to King Aerys II Targaryen and we all know how that turned out.”

“I hardly think Ciara of all people would betray you or our child. Besides that, a tithe would ensure we remain wealthy and would allow us to focus on other trade ventures without distraction. Doubly so with Maeve paying as well,” Atia says.

“Perhaps not betrayal, no. But if we are left without land and an army, what’s to stop a bannerman from deciding not to pay tribute? If you think her so jealous to begin with, do you think Maeve will be happy to send coin or furs here for your pleasure when she could just as easily refuse? What would we do? Send Ser Anders with our combined strength to crush her? At best it would tear us all apart,” you say tiredly.

“Ser Cormaic speaks sense, my lady,” Varys says. “This may be the easiest path laid before you, but it is also not the most secure. Although I do truly hope you don’t mean to sail for your seat and remain there dealing with trivial concerns. We have much to accomplish yet. We can discuss other options in due time if need be.”

“You think I may need other options,” you say with raised brow.

“I only mean to say you are going to be negotiating with two seasoned lords renowned for their stubbornness who have little reason to love you,” he says patiently. “They will ask much of you, more than you have to give, and will balk at what I must assume is your refusal to give them access to the Lady Maeve.”

“You could say the same of Lord Hardy and yet he is now my ally,” you point out.

“Just so. I will concede that was deftly done and most unexpected, though it still does little to change your poor standing with the remaining two,” he says. “A conversation to continue another day, perhaps. The hour grows late. You mentioned news of the east? Is it this business with Lady Atia’s brother and father? A most unfortunate mess,” he tuts.

“Then you already know,” you sigh.

“I do,” he says with some regret. “There seems to be little chance of this being resolved peacefully.”

“And my claim?” your wife asks.

“My lady, I implore you to reconsider. At this point I have no doubt your claim is legitimate, and most useful, but this is not the time to make such known. You should wait until your husband has gained the strength to protect you from friend and enemy alike,” he says gently.
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>>3877031
“My true name can wait, I suppose. I am more concerned with my inheritance. My brother Daegon insists it would be stowed away in the Bank of Volantis behind the Black Wall. I must needs prove I am who I say I am to gain this boon,” she says heatedly.

“To my understanding, you are named trueborn by Lady Daena’s will. That may not serve in Westeros or even Pentos, but Volantis should honor it. Only… you are little-known yourself and your word alone would not serve. Your father saw to that, whether he intended it or not I do not know. You need the word of better-placed family member if you are to avoid sailing all that way for nothing. If they may be trusted with discretion, then your brother or father would serve to gain you the vault. But… would you choose a side in their conflict?” Varys asks.

“I… I must think on this. I have love for both of them and want neither hurt,” she says with a troubled expression. “I thank you for your council, Lord Varys.”

“Why my lady, council is all I am sworn to give,” he says with a smirk. “I must be going before the hour of the wolf is upon us. I bid you both a good evening.” He inclines his head and leaves the same way he entered.

"You know, you can just come out as a bastard of Blackfyre. Makes you far less of a trouble and still lends you more weight than being known as the bastard of some magister. Our children still won't be 'tainted' as Seven Heathens say," you point out.

She glares at you with her intensely purple eyes. "I mislike this bastard word."

"Mislike it all you want, it's what you're likely already being called," you state bluntly. "Esmeralda is a bastard. Tyrra is a bastard. I think?" Atia nods slightly. "Thought so. So is Anders. So is my own mother, if I were to guess. This house is full of bastards."

"What would you do?" she asks, looking all the scared girl of nine and ten that she is at this very moment.

>Keep her potentially trueborn heritage a secret
>Press the claim of being a trueborn of Blackfyre
>Come out as a bastard of Blackfyre instead

>Continuing at around 9pm EST. I still need to type up the wedding and I have a feeling it's going to take a while. Why can't everyone get married in the woods with little ceremony like civilized folk?
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>>3877067
>must needs
God I hate this phrase.

>Keep her potentially trueborn heritage a secret
For now. I'd prefer to get the inheritance silently, then building some strength, and then coming out with this bomb.
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>>3877067
this >>3877074
you don't strike till you're ready
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>>3877067
>Keep her potentially trueborn heritage a secret
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>>3877067
>Keep her potentially trueborn heritage a secret
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>>3877067
>>Keep her potentially trueborn heritage a secret
We cant protect shit. We have need for infantry. A unit or two of warships.
And either a garrison for our small town once we get it. Or specialized combated troops for a unit of warships.
Fulfill our hardy request and we are fucking golden. To push that claim.
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>>3877067
>>Keep her potentially trueborn heritage a secret
... for now
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>>3877074
>>3877083
>>3877118
>>3877135
>>3877221
>>3877232
“I suppose Varys is right. Best to wait on it for now. If I’m able to rise further above my station and expand the forces at my disposal, then perhaps we could do more, but I won’t risk you by striking before we are ready,” you concede.

Her shoulders sag in a mixture of relief and disappointment. “As you say. I still want my coin from that vault,” she adds as she playfully pokes your chest.

“Of course you do,” you say with an eye roll.

“What’s that supposed to mean?” she says with narrowed eyes.

Coin is basically your fetish. “Nothing at all, my love. We should be off to bed,” you say innocently.

You awake the next day to a flurry of activity. The washerwomen are scrubbing every surface. Extra hands for the kitchen are unloading supplies. Aodhan’s wife, Einin, they apparently married when you were comatose, is supervising the bulk of it with some help from your mother. She used to be a washerwoman herself, but her new husband’s income has elevated her. She is like to give birth within a month or so. You really should do something about knighting Aodhan before then.

The courtyard will host the lowborn and very minor nobility while the dining hall will host the nobles you expect to be present, though the heavy oaken doors that typically separate the two have been fully opened so that your relatively small hall would feel less clustered. A nice enough touch. Ciara’s bedroom has been prepared as well. That is to say, she has moved to one of the more spacious and luxurious guest bedrooms rather than the relatively small room she was using until now. It wouldn’t do for her to sleep in such humble quarters on her wedding night.

As for your guests, Lord Hardy and his two grandsons are the only Clawmen that would attend the feast, likely because they really don’t seem to care for what anyone thinks of them. They’re still skipping the ceremony at the Sept though. Ciara said Maeve likely would have attended had she not been so paranoid of your impending doom. You don’t know whether to take the hesitance of your neighbors as a slight against your house, or whether to accept it for an issue of religion. There will be far more Westerlanders in attendance to make up for it though. Brax, Reynold, Plumm, Jast, a Crakehall, a Lydden. Bloody mess. You’re glad you slept through all of the planning and then strategically waited until this morning to inquire further.
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>>3877262
There is one detail you should probably see to. The immediate future of the newlyweds. The dilemma is whether to keep them close or send them on their way. Ser Anders will have duties to attend to in your lands. Adjusting to the new surroundings, for starters, as well as preparing to fill his new role as Knight-Captain. On the other hand, you find yourself lacking a dedicated healer. Your leg is fairly manageable at this point, Ciara having done all she could for it. A novice could see to its routine care. Hell, maybe even you could do it. Atia also wanted her around for the birth, but that isn’t an easily timed thing. A maester would make all of this so much easier…

Also, this recruitment is taking too bloody long. You don’t know what the problem is, but it seems that the fastest way to get this lot together is to have a recruitment drive. It may be a slight setback for your population boom, but defense should also be a priority.

>Send Ciara and Anders back to Boggwood
>Have them stay here for longer
>Separate them Yes, this is a dick move

Convert your 2 Glory from Fleabottom shenanigans as well as 3 Population (brings you from 20 to 17 Pop) to Power and raise the Bronzeguard to full strength now.
>Yes
>No
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>>3877273
>>Have them stay here for longer
>Yes
The kid is going to learn eventually. He can practice sparring with Tyrra if need be. We absolutely need a healer and someone taking care of our newborn. And Aodhan's
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>>3877273
>>Have them stay here for longer
>>Yes
Seems the more sensible option at this stage. I don't like losing population but I would rather we formed the Bronzeguard sooner rather than later.
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>>3877319
Agreed.
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>>3877273
Could Anders father give support for the lordship or would that be asking too much
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>>3877327
You can always ask. I can put it to a vote to seek out others besides the Queen if your local efforts fall through, which is a very real possibility.
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>Have them stay here for longer
>Yes

Your bridal party makes its way to the Mother’s Sept near the Gate of the Gods in the northwestern corner of King’s Landing. It’s not nearly as grand as the Great Sept, but it is even older and a beautiful building in its own right, even to a nonbeliever. You are waiting with Ciara in a veiled area at the entrance as guests file into the Sept. They can’t see you, but you can see them. Some nonsense about seeing the bride before the ceremony. She looks beautiful with her ivory wedding gown even though she can’t stop fretting over minor things.

Your sister nervously whispers the names of the guests as they arrive. There are other more minor attendees, but she fills you in on the ones she deems to be worth knowing. “You know Lord Andros Brax, his lady wife couldn’t make it on account of being a stuck-up bitch. Ser Arston Jast, that was who Anders squired for. There’s Anders's older brother, Ser Tytos Brax. His other brothers are Flement and Robert, but they are still only squires. The one with the blonde ponytail is Ser Tygon Reynold. He’s the heir to Ember Peak. Oh! And Lady Andrea Brax came too! She’s his wife and a lovely lady. We’ve talked before at the Red Keep. That’s Ser Lorcan Lydden, Ser Tygon’s sworn sword. The taller one with the red hair is Ser Tyrus Reynold, Ser Tygon’s younger brother and a fierce fighter if rumors are true. Maybe not as fierce as Ser Lyle Crakehall,” she gestures to a huge mustached man with a brindled boar on his doublet, “he was Ser Peter Plumm’s mentor. The one you knighted. Ah, and there he is. Oh fuck she didn’t say she was actually attending,” your sister squeaks. You raise your eyebrows, having never heard her use that word. She’s been spending too much time near your unladylike wife.

Queen Cersei Lannister appears, flanked by Lannister household guards and a Kingsguard. You’d think she would use the Goldcloaks if she is supposed to be a Baratheon now, but you learned firsthand that they are useless shits anyway. Either she’s come to the same realization or this is more of that infamous Lannister pride you’ve heard so much of. The guests sink to their knees. Your wife doesn’t bother, but at least has the excuse of being visibly pregnant. Ciara goes to follow suit, but you grab her arm and stop her. “No. You’re not ruining your dress to play the lickspittle. She can’t even see you back here,” you whisper. “Good thing you wore that necklace, eh?” you nudge her arm. “Shut up Cormaic, gods. Sorry. This is so stressful.” The guests all are beckoned back to their feet within seconds anyway. Soon enough the choir switches tune and your moment arrives.

>Can I get 4d6 for Will to see how dignified you are as you walk your sister down the aisle, Ser Cripple?
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Rolled 1, 1, 5, 2 = 9 (4d6)

>>3877390
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Rolled 5, 4, 6, 6 = 21 (4d6)

>>3877390
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Rolled 6, 3, 2, 3 = 14 (4d6)

>>3877390
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>>3877398
well damn..We fucking walked with the grace of a gazelle.
We walked better than any man coming in today. lol
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>>3877398
a visible swagger
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>>3877363
>>3877327
>Could Anders father give support for the lordship or would that be asking too much
That's a good idea.
We should definitely try to plan a hunt with Lord Brax, Crakehall and any of the other Westerland lords who might be interested - try to build up a bit of a positive rep among those on the winning side of the rebellion. That was the whole reason we encouraged Ciara to court a Westerlander wasn't it?
Ciara and our dear wife can run the same PR campaign over dinner and with any of the ladies that join us for the hunt.

>>3877394
oof
>>3877398
and Ppc coming through with the save
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>>3877390
God I fucking knew this was going to happen

>>3877398
Strut it
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You put aside the cane and force the limp from your step. Ciara’s eyes widen with shock. “Cormaic! What are you doing? You’ll be---”

“Fine. It’s only for a short while. I won’t limp you down the aisle. We will walk with dignity,” you reassure her. She relents, if only because she doesn’t have the time to argue. You take her arm in yours and start to walk. It hurts, no fucking doubt about that, but you don’t let it show on your face as you stride forward with your little sister on your arm as if you were never injured at all. You hear a few shocked gasps, but you pay them no mind. At the front, your mother is sitting with Atia on one side while Lord Brax and the Queen are on the other side of the aisle. Ser Anders is already at the front. He looks to you briefly with concern in his eyes, but he quickly refocuses on his wife-to-be with a lovestruck smile. You leave them to it with the septon, your part here done for now. Thankfully, your seat between your mother and your wife isn’t far off, so you avoid making a fool of yourself and falling over without Ciara to balance you.

It’s moments like these where you’re glad you are protected by guerilla fighters, because Aodhan is able to ghost his way up the side and pass your cane back off while pretending to whisper something important in your ear, if a few choice words on the sermon you got to miss while you were in the back qualifies as important. You stifle your grin and watch as the septon drawls on about all of their different false idols and how the manmade statues somehow offer protection. You’re glad Hardy skipped this, or he may have exposed the fleshy fool for a liar. Fire, and even Weirwoods, have power because they are primal, natural. These heathens may as well pray to this brace on your leg and call it the Smith for all of the pretending they do.

Atia has a different take. ”Does this make me the maiden or the mother when you fuck me?” she asks in pentoshi.

“You not maiden. Think mother. Or crone.” She pinches your good leg hard. “Because wise.” she releases your leg. You look over to see your mother glaring at both of you, as if she wasn’t complaining about this whole affair just yesterday.

They finally get to the part where they say their vows, making promises back and forth. Then a challenge is raised for any to speak against the marriage. You freeze. Nothing happens. Definitely good that the Hardy’s didn’t come. Then you stand and make your way back with a certain swagger in your step courtesy of your improvised limp and remove the maiden’s cloak of your house from Ciara’s shoulders. She has tears in her eyes, though of gratitude if her smile is anything to go by. Anders then fastens his own cloak about her shoulders, made in the image of his personal coat of arms. Really it should be in reverse if he is effectively joining your house, but this is tradition. You step back again.
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>>3877505
“With this kiss I pledge my love and take you for my husband.”

“With this kiss I pledge my love and take you for my lady and wife.”

“I now pronounce you man and wife of one flesh, one heart, one soul, now and forever,” the septon announces.

Loud cheers and applause ring throughout the room as the newlyweds exit down the aisle. You head back towards your villa in groups. The Queen won’t be attending the feast, which is perhaps for the best. It likely would have turned the whole affair into vain attempts at currying favor with her.

The atmosphere is certainly festive. Someone saw fit to hire a singer and a pair of musicians for the event. The feast itself is interesting to say the least. The dishes seem to alternate between traditional fare and the more exotic. Apparently Atia brought in an Essosi chef who likes to cook with foreign spices and the like. He’s working alongside the traditional cooks for tonight only. She convinced him to provide his services on the basis that the food of your people is somewhat different than many other regions of Westeros in the additional reliance on seafood and that it lends itself well to his particular twist. You must say, you agree even though others seem more hesitant to touch some of the dishes.

With wine flowing freely, it doesn’t take long at all before the newlyweds and other young noble couples are dancing in their merriment. The younger knights, friends of Anders, even join in the dancing with servant girls or whoever else is on hand. You just hope, in vain no doubt, that you won’t have to deal with complaints of more bastards seeded in the weeks to come. You attempt a round during a slower song with your pregnant wife who is also mostly forced to sit back. You do notice a few others of note that are holding back from the celebrations, preferring to watch and converse instead. Who will you talk to?

>Lord Hardy and Lord Brax
>That Ser Tygon fellow and Lady Andrea Brax
>Your mother
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>>3877518
>That Ser Tygon fellow and Lady Andrea Brax
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>>3877518
>Lord Hardy and Lord Brax

If were going to ask Lord Brax to help sponsor our cause, better start chumming it up with him
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>>3877518
>>Lord Hardy and Lord Brax
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>>3877518
>>That Ser Tygon fellow and Lady Andrea Brax
I want to talk with Hardy and brax. But when will we see Tygon again and company again?
What weve got to do is try and set up a ruby deal of some kind. As long as Atia believes they will sell just fine. We could buy them and resell them.
And if we ever get that jeweler we will make more in profit.
We may as well make this connection.
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Anyone know where Joe is?
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>>3877518
>>That Ser Tygon fellow and Lady Andrea Brax
If we are ever going to deal in rubies now is a good time to make a connection.

I don't even know in what way we can entice lord Brax to sponsor us. We were on different sides of the war. Yes, there is now a blood tie. But he doesn't have any reason to raise us is my guess.

Potentially we make another deal for trade that benefits us both, with Atia bargaining of course.
But we need to make a deal with the Brunes and possibly the Crabbs too.
Brunes we could likely do vouch for me and I vouch for you. But we could likely see what they've to offer for trade. We will have fur and food.
But the food surplus will go down once the infantry is set up.
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>>3877505
Would you be kind enough to share what exactly was the deal we made? It's 3 fur for every 2 food.
But how much food do they need per month? Was Hardy intrested in buying a large quantity upfront? at the 3:2 exchange rate.
If we are going to trade off more food even committing to a trade deal of 2-5 food per month we could support for a while since we've so much fucking food stored up. We could also trade fur along with food once that starts rolling in.

Now I am thinking the Crabbs want to be able to sell their goods sooner rather than later. We could strike a deal to buy their shit in bulk. Atia can haggle that shit down and off we sell it for more to our dear 'ol dad.
The Crabbs need to be an big economic force. And for that they need money coming in. With no dock or port, they few places to pawn their shit off. Especially if they want the alliance to work in his favor.
Or we could simply do the same for the Brunes along with Vouching. Either way we need to make our neighbors rely on us for their economic lifeline.
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>>3877554
It's a feast, so you shouldn't be stuck with one party the whole time. I'll write up both and post them tomorrow, probably during the day if I can. Joe was kind enough to give me some dialogue for Tygon/Andrea. Tygon may have some trade/investment advice, but won't be interested in trading you rubies as I think he has his own jeweler at this point. Keep the ideas coming for the lords/etc or if there is anyone I've missed that you may want to meet with.
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>>3877575
They want a flat amount of 120 food. Their estimate for how much it will take to sustain their people and military until their storm damaged/raided fishing operation is restored. In exchange, they will provide 180 units of common furs. This is in effect an exchange of 3 wealth in food for 4.5 wealth in furs if we are going with fair market value. Atia doesn't believe in fair market value, so it may be possible to get more than 4.5 wealth for the furs, provided you want to put in the work to see that through. Best way to do that is ship the furs somewhere where they aren't so common.

You have 64 food stored right now that you can exchange right away, giving them a nice buffer for now that they will probably appreciate. Given that you will be producing a surplus of 5 food per month (down from 8 with your growing army), your contract with them should be done by this time next year.

I think I'm going to make a separate doc with your trade deals in it like Malroy has.
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>>3877434
>We should definitely try to plan a hunt with Lord Brax
Nice how nobody bloody supported the vote for improving Survival early in the quest, isn't it?

No scoring points with the king or the lannister bannermen that way.

>>3877390
Disappointed by the absence of a certain handsome knight but it is understandable.

>>3877505
>because Aodhan is able to ghost his way up the side and pass your cane back off while pretending to whisper something important in your ear
Was surprised our sparrowhawks captain is this clever.
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>>3877748
>Nice how nobody bloody supported the vote for improving Survival early in the quest
Aren't we already at least a decent hunter, though? We did get the white hart...
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>>3877849
Not stat-wise. The deer didn't expect to get killed because it waited to be worshiped or something.
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>>3877851
Oh, I must've forgotten about that. Sad!
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>>3877851
Oh yeah? That's what deers do?
I for one am happy we didnt go survival. That shit is mostly fucking useless.
We wont be hunting for a minimum of 6 months. Possibly a year.
We need to wait for our leg to heal.
Hunting with lord brax wont be for a while. And the same goes for a POTENTIAL HUNT with the king. We are some unknown knight that he knows by name because we got out shit almost kicked in on his lands.
Anything the king can help us with we could likely get via the queen or Varys manipulating.
We've just got to do some work for them to be able to earn more favor.

Other than a lordship proposal what can Brax offer us?
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>>3877876
>I for one am happy we didnt go survival. That shit is mostly fucking useless.
Minmaxers like you is why every character has the same stats.
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>>3878191
Ohh so you want to get survival because it's fun? And not directly related to the boon it would have to help impressing the king? That is a form of min maxing.
I voted the way I did because that's the character I wanted to play. And would have the most fun playing it.
Make your point and argue for it. Get enough people on your side and wow look at that you're the majority. Call if w.e you would like to call it. I am thoroughly entertained by our character. And playing it cripple made it harder but just increases the challenge. And the character's appeal. Saying shit that works out for one or two situation isnt appealing to the masses.
I sure didnt vote for Will but still it won. That wasn't min maxing. But you move on, and if we ever get to becoming more religious itll help.
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Ciara pulls away from the dancing for a moment and comes to your spot, cheeks flushed and breathless, and waves to Lady Andrea who approaches as well. “Cormaic, may I introduce Lady Andrea Brax of Ember Peak,” your sister says. The image of a proper lady, Lady Andrea curtsies and offers her hand to you, which you kiss gently. You can see the Brax in her. Amber eyes, brown hair, and tall for a woman as she is only slightly shorter than you are.

“A pleasure to finally meet you, Ser Cormaic. Your sister told me of what happened to you. Truly a dreadful thing ser, and in Kings’s Landing no less.” She shakes her head and adds more quietly, “I’m sure my husband would never allow such a thing to happen in our own lands…”

“To be sure, my lady. No ruler should allow their lands to fall into such disarray. And yet here we are,” you say with a shrug.

"Nevertheless, I'm glad to see you recovered and well Ser. I suppose today makes us family after a fashion. I must say I know little of my half-brother, only having met him a handful of times, but by all accounts, he is a good man of faith and has a strong sword arm as well. I hear you're taking him on in some aspect?”

You nod. “I have a new company of infantry that needs a captain. It will be a good test of his ability to lead and will allow him to support his new wife.”

“That’s a lovely necklace, where did you find it?” Atia asks as she returns from sampling another course.

“You must be the Lady Atia, I’ve heard much about you as well,” Lady Andrea says. You take the hint and repeat the introductions. These Westerlanders are a formal lot and you’re just not used to it at this point. “The necklace is actually a product of the ruby mines of Ember Peak, our finest export. If you would indulge me, what is it that your house produces?”

“Pearls, my lady. Our waters are rich in them. In fact, we are even expanding our production,” you say.

“Ah yes I see, well Ser Cormaic now let me introduce my husband, Ser Tygon Reynold, Heir to Ember Peak, as well as our daughter, Allison,” she says as the taller man with the pulled back blonde hair approaches and gives his wife a chaste kiss on the cheek as he touches her stomach. It seems she is expecting as well. There is also a girl around Esmeralda’s age with her mother’s eyes and father’s hair clinging to Ser Tygon’s leg.

Ser Tygon offers a surprisingly firm handshake for what you were expecting as he doesn’t have the poise of a warrior and dresses more like one home at court.

"Good day Ser. Seven Blessings upon you and your family. I would also introduce Ser Lorcan Lydden, my sworn sword." He gestures to a shorter stocky man a step behind him dressed in green and brown with the look of a warrior about him.
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>>3878499
“A pleasure to meet you both,” you say.

"Husband, Lady Atia commented on my broach, and we began talk of jewels and jewelry. Did you know House Boggs main income comes from pearls?" Lady Andrea asks.

"Ah, another house in the jewelry trade, are you? Well don’t let my wife fool you, we also produce grain in our valleys as well, not all of our trade is so glamorous. And many more people buy food than jewels. However, if I may offer a word of advice, ser. Invest in a jeweler and prepare the jewelry in... I beg your pardon but where is your home again?” he asks

“The Boggwood of Crackclaw Point,” you supply.

“Ah yes. Prepare the jewelry in Boggwood, and then proceed to send it on to Kings Landing. I would say Gulltown as well, but you may find that port closed to you for some time,” he adds with some reproach. War may be war Ser, but that may have been poorly done.” At least I didn’t sack the entire city while I was at it. “Anyhow, the margins on refined jewelry are much higher than selling on raw product.” Tygon looks around briefly. “Now I must beg your pardons, for I seem to have misplaced my brother and I needs find him before he finds trouble. Good day Ser, Lady.” He flashes a quick smile showing off a couple of gold teeth and hurries off.

You step away as well, leaving the three womenfolk to chatter. His manner was a touch condescending for your taste, but you’ve dealt with far worse. Out of curiosity, you take a moment to survey the room and do indeed see some trouble brewing near the doors leading to the courtyard. Ser Lothor Hardy, the heir to House Hardy, and Ser Tyrus Reynold are squared up inches from each other’s faces and look to be within moments of drawing blood. Both are around six and a quarter foot in height with the builds of lifetime warriors. A fight worth seeing, you think idly, but not here. Guest right is seen as sacred amongst your people and you won’t have it whispered that you allowed it to be so easily broken under your roof like a weakling. It would be a damned shame if you had to right such an insult to your house on your sister’s wedding night.

Lothor at least has the sense to glance in your direction and see the look on your face. There may yet be hope for him as a lord. Ser Tygon quickly intervenes on his taller and angrier brother’s behalf, laying a hand on his shoulder with some choice words. Ser Tyrus shrugs the hand away and storms off, leaving his brother to make his apologies. The lords Hardy and Brax are looking on the scene as well, the latter seems concerned while the former cracks some joke and slaps his new acquaintance on the back. You decide to join them as well, given these two are the only lords in the Seven Kingdoms that you could reasonably count as allies at the moment.
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>>3878504
“Cormaic, grab a seat boy,” Lord Hardy says. “We were just speakin on the Alliance.”

“It seems you were indeed correct in stating you could find many buyers for mine steel,” Lord Brax adds.

“He’s ta be a lord in his own right soon enough if we get our way in it,” Lord Hardy explains the plan to win over Crabb and Brune and press the claim while Lord Brax nods along in thought.

“Sound enough. It could work, especially if you are simply asking for a title without need for land and castle to be lumped in with it. The Crown should have little reason to deny such a request from multiple lords in this new time of peace,” Lord Andros says thoughtfully.

>Speak to him of adding his name to the petition as well
>Don’t
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>>3878508
>Speak to him of adding his name to the petition as well
We should feel this out slooowwly if possible. We want to play to the fact that his son would be able to make more of a name for himself in service to a newly-made lord than to a landed knight
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>>3878545
Agreed
>>3878508
>>Speak to him of adding his name to the petition as well
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>>3878508
>>Speak to him of adding his name to the petition as well

>We want to play to the fact that his son would be able to make more of a name for himself in service to a newly-made lord than to a landed knight
Good call
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>Speak to him of adding his name to the petition as well

“My thoughts exactly, my lord. It requires naught but a signature from the crown and stand to improve the lot of everyone in my household, including my allies,” you say, hoping he gets your meaning.

He regards you with shrewd amber eyes behind his horn of ale. Another man who can appreciate manlier drink, you approve, as you’re sure Lord Hardy does as well. Then he turns to regard Lord Hardy instead. “Interesting. And what do you stand to gain from this, my lord?”

“Lady Shonda’s still young enough ta breed an has agreed ta wed one’a mine. Any children they have stand ta have a place in succession as Cormaic’s kin. Binds our houses and such. That an he’s clearing out some pirate fucker that saw fit ta raid mah coast after the storm took mah ships,” Lord Fergus says gruffly.

“Now I suppose it is my turn to ask what exactly is in it for me and mine, ser. Lay out your offer and I’ll judge if it’s worth putting my name to paper. After all, if I petition the Crown too often, then they will take me less seriously. That is, if you are seeking my support,” he says.

Right to the point. Better than mincing words for the rest of the night. A curious thing though, considering you have little to offer. You’ve already told him of your intentions to give his son a captaincy, you already have a trade deal, and you’re fresh out of people to marry off even if he wasn’t above your house in status. So, what is there? Something with mutual military aid? He probably has that covered, but it can’t hurt to offer. Future prospects for Anders? Maeve did make mention of idle talk with Ciara over a betrothal between their children. If you pushed that angle, that would put Lord Andros’s future grandchild as a landed knight or at least the wife of one.

>Mention mutual military support
>Mention future prospects for his son and grandchildren
>Mention both
>Throw in something else instead (what)
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>>3878640
>Mention future prospects for his son and grandchildren

There's enough land available for a banner house if only we had the right...
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>>3878640
>>Mention future prospects for his son and grandchildren
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>>3878640
When we upgrade our pearls does it change the quality of them as well? Could we promise some of them to him if he's interested in them at all?
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>>3878640
>>Mention both
Re the military aid stress the point that the Sparrowhawks are excellent scouts and guerillas. He likely has a strong conventional army but our forces form an asset far greater than their size would suggest.
Prospects for his son and grandchild are likely to be the main reason he'll give us any support though.
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>>3878644
>There's enough land available for a banner house if only we had the right...

Yeah you can start naming banners with the title, but you only have one domain's worth of land unless you're speaking of granting the Knight of Pynewatch title to Ser Anders and naming them bannermen, which is something you could do if you can convince Maeve to go along with it. The only other option for land would be to dive into a costly war with the Brunes. Unless you guys have some other sort of crazy plan that I may be missing.
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>>3878640
>>Mention both
We will land him if we can ever add on a domain or two. But be subtle about it. He would have to earn it, and if he does it would be his son that enjoys being first of his house of true nobility. With his Grandfathers aid.
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>>3878650
It doesn't increase the quality, but does double the quantity, leaving half of your output not under a contract. I know anons have a lot of plans for the wealth those can bring in though. If this gets support, then I will bring it up.
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>>3878657
Just to be clear domains don't necessarily have to border each other, do they?
Like if we attacked the Crabbs instead?
>>3878640
>Mention future prospects for his son and grandchildren
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>>3878791
3 for future prospects, 2 for both. I'm gonna call it here, but it may take a bit for the post to be up. Busy with real life at the moment.

Your domains don't need to be touching. You could in theory attack the Crabbs or Brunes or even do something crazy with the Valyrian houses under Dragonstone's banner if you're willing to risk it.

Do you intend to stick him and Ciara at Pynewatch after you are lorded and have him act in your stead (given that Maeve agrees to it)? They are likely going to go ahead with their betrothal angle between children either way and I was going to save this vote for later, but it would affect the DC here, so let's get it out of the way.

"Land" Anders and Ciara at Pynewatch with Maeve after ascending to lordship?
>Yes
>No

Either way, can I also get 3d6 for persuasion?
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>>3878851
>>No
Especially not without chatting with Meave about it. She isn't our banner house yet either. Wouldn't that have to be approved by the king at the Caves for the Brunes?
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Rolled 6, 4, 2 = 12 (3d6)

>>3878851
>>No
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Rolled 6, 2, 4 = 12 (3d6)

>>3878851
>No
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>>3878870
Nah. It's a little different. Caves are lords and Brune wants to downgrade them. Having a knightly house swear to a lordly house that is sworn to the king/queen doesn't reduce the Crown's strength and wouldn't need their approval. The title is functionally the same in this case.
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Rolled 6, 5, 5 = 16 (3d6)

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>>3878900
Last one coming in clutch. Nice.
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>>3878851
>>No
Just in case you haven't called the vote already
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>>3878942
Good enough for me. Writing!
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>>3878851
>No
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>Mention future prospects for grandchildren at Pynewatch, general stuff for son
>Rolled 16 vs DC 15
>Success, 1 degree

“I could speak to you about how Ser Anders has a bright future and how he will be able to go further the further I rise as well. All of that is true, of course, but also vague and uncertain,” you start. He nods his head in agreement, but he also seems interested in where you are going.

“So, I’ll tell you the rest. There is a neighboring house, House Pyne, that is under my protection. Another family of landed knights, their male line was wiped out in the war and the only daughter, Lady Maeve Pyne, is the sole heir. She came to me with an arrangement of sorts, to get her with child and carry the child’s rightful title until they came of age and could hold it truly. I agreed and the union was fruitful. The Crown is aware of this and has recognized me as Knight Protector of Pynewatch until such a time as a more appropriate knight may hold it,” you explain.

“Why in the name of the Seven would a noble lady do such a thing?” he asks aghast.

“Simple really, legacy. Lady Maeve is insistent that her lands be ruled by a Pyne, not a husband forced upon her. She rules in all but name. In truth, I couldn’t tell you a damn thing about the day to day business of her town, only that her port and surrounding lands are considered valuable and other houses seek them for their own,” you answer honestly.

“What stops you from exercising your rights upon these lands?” he asks, still taken aback.

“Aside from my oath, my lord, does this sound like the type of woman to let a betrayal pass? She could make any sort of claim throwing the legitimacy of my child with her into question, at which point my claim over her lands is void if she is half as convincing as I know her to be,” you say.

“Seven hells,” he swears before collecting himself. “I still fail to see how this matters to your lordship and mine own son.”

“Then you may instead ask why Lady Maeve would approach me of all people. I’m not known for being approachable,” you joke. “She and Ciara have been close friends since they were young children. Our mothers are friends as well and spoke of betrothals between our houses. Obviously, that didn’t work out, but the conversation has been reignited between this next generation. Simply put, my sister and Lady Maeve already intend a betrothal between their children. I’m sure your own son would see the value in such an arrangement. If Lady Maeve births a girl, then your grandson will be Knight of Pynewatch one day. If she births a boy, then your granddaughter will be Lady of Pynewatch.”
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>>3879046
Now you have his attention. “I had hoped the boy would perhaps reach such a lofty goal, though I suppose it is nearly as impressive if his own child has such a guarantee. The one issue I see here is this bastard heir. Any trueborn child of this woman would ruin any such plans, particularly if her future husband was not keen on your role in all of this,” he says.

“Just so, my lord. That is why I must ensure such an unfortunate event doesn’t come to pass. The more power I have at my disposal, the easier it will be to ensure such a mutually beneficial future,” you say.

He sighs. “Very well, ser. You have me. I mislike the uncertainty in all of this, but the opportunity is too good to pass on. A trading post on the Narrow Sea ruled by one with blood ties to mine own heir has a certain grandness to it all, particularly if this woman births a girl. Although it’s beyond me how you’ve managed to sire another bastard and still maintain such a relationship with your own wife.”

Hoping for a girl, now that’s a first. “You could say we married for love. We discussed it all in advance and she saw the benefit to our own house and future heir,” you say.

“Heh. Bullshit. She’s foren. Bet she was joinin in and all that,” Lord Hardy chimes in.

You just take another swig of ale and refrain from commenting, which both men take as confirmation anyway. Lord Brax slack jawed and Lord Hardy cackling hysterically.

After some time passes, your attention is drawn to yet another tradition, the pie cutting. You look on as the bride and groom hold a butcher’s knife together and laugh as they cut the oversized pie down the middle, causing sparrows to fly out from under the crust and into the night sky. The guests that are still coherent enough to notice start cheering and calls for the bedding go through the crowd like a wave. Soon enough, the young knights and ladies are ushering the young couple to the bed chambers, shouting and pulling at their clothes all the while. Your own wife joins in as well, not letting her pregnancy keep her from the fun. Your leg prevents you from doing the same, not that you were keen to relieve your sister of her clothes anyway.

There are a decent number of people still drinking or slumped over in the courtyard and you can still hear shouts and laughter from the direction of Ciara’s chambers. Interestingly, your mother seems to be absent as well. Perhaps she retired early. You decide to do the same, though it is getting late anyway. As you suspected, Atia joins you shortly afterwards and does her best to recreate the passion of your own wedding night.
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Aaaaand that's it for tonight, but I'll be running tomorrow night starting at around 730pm EST as well. I think we should be able to get through the sit-down with Crabb/Brune/Hardy. I know it's a lot more intrigue than these sorts of quests typically have, but we should be getting to pirates very soon. Thanks for playing and I hope to see you tomorrow night!
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>>3879064
Sounds good thanks for the run.
BTW you may want to change the Power, Influence, and Food surplus. In our stats.

Also didn't we have three sets of Uniforms? One to cover the next(this third Unit for the bronze guard)?

And I thought we essentially had to wait till the Grand tower was done to get a third unit? I know our personal guard is a small team of 20 so we could likely find space for them. But then we still have two full units. Since we only have the tower, no? Would you want to say we spend xx GD a month paying for housing till it gets completed?

Don't population and power and any conversions have to happen between/at house fortune rolls?
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>>3879076
Good call on the uniforms, I did say that. Hell, this is the unit that needs them the most. I'll update the sheets tomorrow.

Hmm. You technically have 3 slots until the tower upgrade is ready. The base tower, the villa, and the hamlet. So you are okay right now, but may need/want to do some shuffling when you move back, considering it feels weird at this point to leave the Sparrowhawks behind. Or maybe that's just me. I'll put it to a vote when we need to worry about it.

You get one house action a month, though the rulebook simply specifies it take place "once per turn" whatever that was supposed to mean. There's no mention of having to do it at the same time as the house fortune roll. I'm not concerned so long as you aren't trying to purchase multiple holdings per month.
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>>3879119
mhm thanks for that. As far as personages? Any real limit? other than for obvious sakes not repeating?
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>>3879046
Maeve is going to kill us for telling people our deal
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>>3879297
She might be angry. But it's not like great secret. Anyone with decent schmening/awareness that was present probably could figure it out.
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>>3879161
Malroy was going with double your status and it seemed to balance out nicely. So, 8. You somehow have zero right now lol. There's a lot of room for improvement.

>>3879297
This one's not a secret. For once. She would gladly tell it to any of your neighbors if she hasn't already. She embellished in front of the court to make it sound less like a plot, but who doesn't do that?
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>>3879448
Lifestyle Holdings

Limits:
Tower - 1
Hall - 2
Small Castle - 3
Castle - 4
Superior Castle - 5

According to this, we will have two available once the Grand tower/hall is completed but we currently have one.
Except we have a townhouseA gift
And the Standard of living Another gift/dowry
I'd say they shouldn't conflict with if we wanted to buy a Solar because why should it. But I wanted to ask if you would allow that? Say a crypt/greenhouse other addition to our home in boggwood.

Not sure if I just didn't look hard enough. But wealth holdings we currently have 1?(expanded on a couple of times I guess)
no power and 1 settlement Being our going to be hall?
We can have personages as of now 8. But far as the others whats that limit/looking like? But how many could we have of each?

Anyway, How would you guys feel about taking out a loan so we could expand faster? Take out a 10 or 15 wealth loan in like 6 months. Potentially in the future, once we get back in touch with dear 'ol dad. The first investment being into w.e we need to complete a warship unit. And with what is left we get a Maester. Free's up Ciara and gives us some more dedicated to the house's needs 100% of the time. Won't hurt to have someone learned to teach the kids how to read and write common
We are also going to need to invest in a port once we have the population/small town
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>>3879854
1 estate holding per domain (you have this covered with the fishery)
No limits on lifestyle holdings
Double your status for personages (8)
A hamlet or tower may have 1 settlement holding each, 2 each for the large tower/hall or small town

I just put Out of Strife, Prosperity up on the google drive link in the OP.
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>>3879956
Can we ask the crown to endow the lands around our villa as compensation? Maybe big enough to be a trading hub and supply point to send goods into KL?
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>>3879991
The extra land part was only if you took the other option and allowed for bannermen, though I see little reason why you couldn't convert the villa into a trading hub as it is now. I'll include that option in the house meeting tonight.
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>>3880061
How big is the villa and its land its on? I'd rather do enjoy the bathhouse there, and would rather keep it peaceful.... I was thinking on one end we have a villa, and going down a road past some trees, we'd set up a warehouse that does wholesale and bulk buying and selling, and let that turn into a trading area with Inns and other goods and services for income.
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>>3880331
The villa itself is more like a compound surrounded by a low wall with a main house and attached bath house as well as two offshoot buildings, one being a small stable and the other quarters for a unit of soldiers. There is little surrounding land to speak of aside from a small wooded area encircling it on the back and sides for privacy. Aside from converting the complex itself to more of a trading post, there is little else to do with it besides using it as a residence (which it seems we won't be doing given the earlier vote).
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>>3879991
I like this idea. But think we could hold off on that? I'd rather we get our lordship. Give it some time, do some hush work for Varys, and do something for the queen. And we could work both those angles and the compensation
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>>3880535
Yeah, I wasn't going to push it anytime soon, just asking how likely we can cash in that favor since getting a maester doesn't seem to be happening.
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>>3880563
I would also be opposed to it.. I get having it come early helps us. But something we can simply pay for with wealth is not worth using favors.
Now if we are talking from the upgrade to an arch maester. That would be nice. We could pay the 5 wealth. But use the favor to skip other requirements.
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>>3880745
So you'd rather risk being a cripple for life because what, we were top stingy with our favors and wealth?
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>I’m gonna drop this bit now since it’s really just more background fluff for your family. Thread will resume in 1 hour with your house meeting for the new month

There are still some guests about when you go to break your fast the next morning, though no one of any particular import outside of the three of House Hardy. You catch sight of a serving girl scampering down the hall bare-arsed and let out a sigh, hoping you won’t be stuck writing letters alleging paternity in a few months’ time. Then you see another odd sight. Your mother and her betrothed, Luken Hardy, awfully close at a table and holding hands under it. Something is most definitely off here.

You sit down across from them and wait… neither makes any move to separate, which just further confuses you. “Explain,” you order.

“Give us a moment,” you mother says to Luken, who shrugs and excuses himself. “When did you two become so close?”

“Last night, when we wed,” she replies.

“No… Ciara wed last night,” you say slowly.

“As did I. Luken was kind enough to keep me company while you were all off enjoying yourselves. He’s rather charming once you get him to talking and became more daring as the night wore on, so I challenged him to steal me off to the grove to be wed,” she says with a smile. “And here we are.”

“You didn’t want something more?” you ask, still in disbelief.

“I got exactly what I wanted. A chance to feel the way I did twenty years ago. To feel young and a touch rebellious, I suppose. Cormaic, did I ever tell you of how I met your father?” she asks.

“No, and he was never one to speak of such,” you answer.

“It was at a harvest festival. I didn’t typically attend such affairs and kept to the deeper woods. My own mother, your grandmother, she was a woods witch of a sort. I never knew my father, but she used to say he was some sort of Boggs offshoot. More than like to be closer kin to Barth if she was telling the truth. I couldn’t say why, but I grew curious and decided to steal off to the festival without my mother’s leave. I ended up meeting your father through Barth’s introduction. Ser Corwyn Boggs,” she sighs wistfully. “Your father was sullen and stubborn even then and Barth was trying to introduce him to a new woman after his wife, a Brownhollow Brune, died without issue. He was twice my age, but I was wild and spirited and did most of the seducing.”

She pauses, smiling at some memory. “My mother was wroth when I returned, though not half as much as I’d expected. She used to claim she could see things that had not come to pass, so mayhaps she saw that too. I ended up with child and sought your father out in the following months. You. He was unwed with his best years behind him and no heir, so he insisted we wed to make you trueborn despite my common birth.”
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>>3880762
“So, I sought to get on with all of this and start the next part of my life. I didn’t need ceremonies then and I certainly don’t now. The date is one last thing for me to share with my daughter, though she doesn’t know yet either,” she says with a wry smile.

“What will you do next?” you ask.

“I suppose return to Hardholm with my new husband, what else is there to do? You are doing a fine enough job without my council and I have another family to start,” she says.

She waves Luken back over, who has been lurking off to the side with uncertainty. The three of you speak of small things and sup for a time before you eventually excuse yourself to see to affairs of house. You rouse your sleeping wife and have Aodhan grab the newlyweds. They at least should be awake now that it’s around midday.
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I lied, this is ready early too.

>Monthly House meeting for Month III of Year 284
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PkF7oBZknxIj_dXoIRXF26VufS1Fti-XUIc6lFwf4AU/edit#gid=0

You are the first to your study and, on a whim, you peer behind the bookcase to ensure no “little bird” is afoot. Thankfully you are alone. Atia and Aodhan arrive after a short time and take the two chairs across from you. Ser Anders and Ciara arrive after a short while hand in hand and take the sofa so as to be closer to each other.

“Good of you to join us,” you state flatly. “It’s been too long since we’ve held one of these, but I would see us back to the monthly meetings on the state of the house.”

Which will you handle first?

>Aodhan (military)
>Atia (trade, finances)
>Ciara (social connection, health)
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>>3880800
>>Ciara (social connection, health)
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>>3880800
>Ciara (social connection, health)
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>>3880800
>Atia (trade, finances)
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>>3880800
>>Ciara (social connection, health)
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>>3880811
>>3880822
>>3880828
>>3880846
Going with Ciara. Writing!
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>Ciara

“Since you’ve kept us waiting, sister, you take the lead,” you say.

Ser Anders looks more abashed than she does, but Ciara begins before he can finish his apology. “I spoke more with Lady Andrea after you went off to meet with the lords. She offered to convince her husband to meet in the coming days and see if a trade deal could be reached. The word ‘investment’ was used,” she says with a bright smile.

Atia perks up at this. “Investment? Of what sort?”

“I don’t think she was clear on what may come of it herself, but she mentioned Ser Tygon talking of looking for a port on the narrow sea,” Ciara answers.

“So, he seeks to finance our own growing port for what? Tariff exemptions? Interest payments? Trade connections?” Atia presses. Ciara just shrugs, at a loss.

“He was introduced to me as the ‘heir’ to Ember Peak, not the lord. What good is an heir to me?” you challenge.

“If rumors are true, he may be lord soon enough. His father is sickly, so Ser Tygon has taken on most of the burdens of lordship himself. That’s why he is out here paying respects to the Crown and making connections rather than his lord father,” Ciara explains.

“Hmm. I’ll think on it, to be sure. We have other pressing matters to consider as well,” you say.

“Wait. I wanted to discuss your health and Atia’s first,” your sister cuts in. “Your leg is healing nicely enough, and I’d imagine your chest is too if you are still breathing, but you really should see to getting a maester if I’m to be leaving for Boggwood. For Atia’s sake as well, though you said you were feeling better of late?”

“I haven’t felt so sickly of late,” Atia confirms. “I think I could travel as well, if you would permit it,” she adds hopefully.

>Have them stay here for longer (Thursday’s vote)

You drum your fingers on the chair in thought. “You two will be staying here until my heir is with us,” you decide. “The health of my wife and child are the most important priority. Ser Anders, I would send you on ahead to assume your captaincy, but I have a feeling my sister would object to being separated from you so soon after your wedding.” Ciara wraps her arm around his protectively as he nods solemnly.

Meet with Ser Tygon to discuss investment opportunities?
>Yes
>No

I’ll get to writing Atia’s part while this vote is open since that got a vote as well.
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>>3880936
>>Yes
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>>3880936
>>Yes
Let's see how we are doing financially. But I just dont see our wife letting us lose in any deal.
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>>3880953
>>3880963
“I suppose there is no harm in at least setting up a meeting with the Reynolds, if they will be in the area regardless,” you allow. “See what you can do to make it happen.” Ciara nods, pleased you’re taking her suggestion seriously.

“It is true that we lack the coin to hire one of your maegi, but we could raise the coin with ease,” Atia begins. “Though I think I’d sooner find a jeweler, that Ser Tygon spoke sense in the added value of a finished product. It’s grating to think my Papa is likely having one of his jewelers turn them into something beautiful while he scoops up even more gold. That should be our move. That… or snatch up that wonderful chef from last night. Westerosi have no appreciation of finer cuisine,” she rubs her growing belly with fondness.

“Maester,” you correct. “I thought we have but 700 dragons in our coffers now. We would need 2000,” you say with a frown.

“You have another 800 set aside for those silly games later in the year. The tourney nonsense. Invest the coin in something more useful than playing at war. The remaining 500 can come from the furs Hardy sends us in exchange for our food surplus. I mislike selling so much of the fur over on this side of the sea when I could get more for it in Essos, but it’s the fastest way to put the gold to better use,” she explains.

What do?
>Follow Atia’s suggestion (gain 6.5 wealth, bringing you to a flat 10, enough for an artisan craftsman or a maester)
>Sit on the tourney funds and furs for now
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>>3880963
Yah I could see a us getting a drydock or warehouses out of this. And possibly an architect. The last one loaned. But but free for the project if we play our cards right.
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>>3880936
>Yes
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>>3881010
>Follow Atia’s suggestion (gain 6.5 wealth, bringing you to a flat 10, enough for an artisan craftsman or a maester)

>>3881028
ignore that...
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>>3881010
>>Follow Atia’s suggestion (gain 6.5 wealth, bringing you to a flat 10, enough for an artisan craftsman or a maester)
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>>3881010
>>Sit on the tourney funds and furs for now
I'd rather we get it later. And have our ceremony in full effect at a reasonable time. But I guess that's being pushed back till after our body gets better and our kid is born.
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>>3881030
>>3881063
>>3881100
>Follow Atia’s suggestion (gain 6.5 wealth, bringing you to a flat 10, enough for an artisan craftsman or a maester)

“See it done then, love. We will be better suited to spend coin on celebrations if we are making more of it to begin with,” you say. She flashes you a hungry smile and you find yourself staring into her eyes a little longer than strictly necessary until someone clears their throat.

“Right. Aodhan, what news have you?” you continue.

“We’ve good news and bad, ser. The Bronzeguard are back to full strength. Problem is, they’re green as goose shit and will need a lot of work before they can pose a threat to anything beyond smallfolk,” Aodhan says.

You pinch the bridge of your nose. You saw this coming, but it’s still hard to hear. Their namesake met their ends as hardened veterans and it’s hard to imagine the replacements as being so ineffectual. “A lot of work they shall get. Anything else?” you ask.

“I spoke with Ser Lothor Hardy for a time last night. He’s got a mind for war if nothing else and was able to speak more on this pirate issue. Seems to be a single ship, though a fearsome one at that. Flies all sorts of colors and has been terrorizing the fishing villages. Killing the men and well,” he clears his throat and looks to the two ladies present. “We think it may be one of the sellswords from the war’s end. One of the ships with a captain clever and dishonorable enough to seek refuge from the storm rather than find himself at the bottom of the bay. That, or one of the Valyrians hired them. They like tossing around coin to sellsword types.” He pauses and looks to Atia. “Meaning no offense, my lady.”

“Did Ser Lothor have any thoughts on how to find them?” you ask.

“He reckons they’re holed up in a smuggler’s cove, but there are loads of them all up and down the coast, so that’s not much help. He suggested having us stake out at one of the remaining fishing villages, or what’s left of it, and ambush them when they come ashore,” he says.

“That still leaves the ship itself,” you point out.

“Aye. That’s a problem. Especially if they’ve kept any alive. Seems some of the villagers are missing. Younglings in particular,” he says uncomfortably.
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>>3881188
“If these pirates are of Essos then they’d want to gather the children up to ship back to the slave markets. The young ones usually fetch the best prices, especially in peacetime,” Atia cuts in.

It takes effort to keep your rage in check, the grinding of your teeth audible. “When?”

Atia looks troubled. “Soon I would think. Keeping them caged in the hull of a ship for too long will weaken them and diminish their value. Best to leave with cages half full then to arrive to port with dying slave stock.”

“How soon can we sail?” you ask them both, your voice losing any prior warmth.

“If you’re taking a merchant cog, on the morrow. This area is lousy with them and at least one is bound to owe me a favor,” Atia says.

“Lads are ready when you are,” Aodhan answers.

“You could also call upon Lady Maeve. I’m sure she would lend the aid of her warships if you would only ask,” Ciara adds helpfully. You can feel your wife’s anger at the mention.

“That, or perhaps you could lure the pirates in with the cog, then ambush them?” Ser Anders suggests.

You regard him with fresh interest. “Go on.”

“Well ser, if you made the cog look to be an easy target along the shores, then the pirates may seek to board it. You’re the last thing they would expect upon a merchant vessel. Although you would need to have less men than the other two approaches,” he says. You shoot a look to Aodhan, knowing he’s like to prefer such an approach as well.

Which plan will you go with?
>Ambush on land with a superior force
>Call upon Lady Maeve to aid with her warships
>Lure the pirates in with a trading cog and ambush at sea
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>>3881197
>>Ambush on land with a superior force
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>>3881197
>>Lure the pirates in with a trading cog and ambush at sea

It's risky but the most chance of getting the slaves intact and possibly another boat.
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>>3881197
>>Lure the pirates in with a trading cog and ambush at sea
With our personal guard on board. And us killing anything that gets close to us we should do fairly well.
Keep Anders next to us when we have to. And should be alright.
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>>3881197
>>Lure the pirates in with a trading cog and ambush at sea
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>>3881197
>>Lure the pirates in with a trading cog and ambush at sea
>>3881258
Anders and his big friend stomping pirate ass. And any elite's the Hardy's have to offer or his own personal gaurd.
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>>3881219
>>3881244
>>3881258
>>3881342
>Lure the pirates in with a trading cog and ambush at sea

“Ser Anders, you have the right of it,” you concede. “Your plan has the greatest chance of bringing the foe to battle before they slip away with prisoners. See to it that a cog is ready to depart on the morrow.”

“Ah, there is one more item. We received a raven this morning from Lord Eustace Brune. He is summoning you along with Lord Hardy to meet with himself and Lord Crabb to discuss an alliance of some sort between just the four of you,” Ciara says.

“Summoning? He would summon me?” you bristle.

“That is the word used in the letter, brother,” she says carefully. “It seems you have much on your plate.” No one else has anything else to say as your anger is palpable at this point.

Your sister is right though, you do have much to do. All of these things are time-sensitive and all but perhaps one require your personal attention. Ser Tygon strikes you as too prideful and proper to deal with your wife alone and you think he won’t take kindly to being snubbed, the Lords Brune and Crabb will only grow more irate the longer they must wait, and you are loathe to risk these bloody pirates happily sailing away with a hull filled with Crackclaw children. You could always send your men along without you to handle the pirates, but you would make for a poor knight if you left the fighting up to others while you sat on your arse talking. Which will you prioritize?

>The Reynold investment
>Smoothing things over with Brune/Crabb
>The pirates plaguing Hardy’s coast
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>>3881382
>>The pirates plaguing Hardy’s coast
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>>3881382
>>The pirates plaguing Hardy’s coast
The Brunes and Crabbs will not lord over us in any form. And they should understand these talks can wait. People are to think these crack claw children are easy pickings they may arrive for more next time and spread the word. And as a warrior, we will deal with these issues ourselves. We will see to it these waters are safe as we will in the future. And we can send a letter stating that along with we will not be summoned at anyone's beck and call to any we have not bent the knee to. SO fuck them

Now for the Reynold investment, we may be able to finagle this around. We could send a letter with our wife stating she speaks for the house, and we wouldn't miss this meeting if not children are being plucked off lands near our own and we found an opportunity to stop the slave trade of Westeros children. Have Ciara go along with her to speak to Lady Andrea and try and butter up her husband to receiving our wife. And to represent just how much this means to us.

>Send our wife and Ciara along with a letter stating our current conflict and if this wasn't of immense importance we would have made it. Lower our selves a bit in the letter if need be while making it CLEAR our wife has full authority and any deal she strikes we will honor.
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>>3881382
>>3881423
Support.
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>>3881382
>>3881423
Support our wife is pretty convincing her self. Along with the letter.
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>>3881397
>>3881423
>>3881433
>>3881444
I can definitely work with this. Writing!
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>The pirates plaguing Hardy’s coast, Atia and Ciara to the Reynolds, remind Brune/Crabb that you’re not a subject

“Pen and parchment,” you command. Ciara obliges. Your handwriting was always shit next to hers. It serves for orders, but not for matters outside the house. You dictate a letter first to Lord Brune and then a second making your apologies to House Reynold for not being able to attend talks at the moment, but emphasizing the utmost confidence you have in your wife to strike a deal if you don’t make it back in a reasonable amount of time.

“I had best see to my arms then,” Ser Anders says.

“Aye. I would skip the full plate. Last thing I need is you drowning. Shit way to go,” you say.

“Wait a moment, Anders. You aren’t actually going with him, are you?” Ciara asks with dawning realization.

“It was his plan,” you point out. She glares at you with some intensity.

“I swore an oath to this house, my lady. What sort of knight would I be if I did not uphold it? Ser Cormaic is still recovering, and he still intends to sail as well,” Anders says with a reassuring smile.

She’s not having it. “Cormaic does things like this all of the time,” Ciara says with exasperation. “You’re different. You’re a true knight, not one to be fighting across ships in the dead of night with arrows flying about. I can’t lose you,” she pleads. You’re a little miffed at the comparison, but she does have a point.

“I’ll leave you two to work it out. Aodhan, fill in Lothor. I wager he will want in on this and we could use a more balanced force. Lets us leave a few behind to hold the villa,” you say before leaving them to their discussion with Atia on your arm for support. She’s been quiet since you made your decision.

“You disapprove,” you state.

“No, I don’t. This is the man you are. The man I fell in love with. I only worry, is all,” she says quietly.

You know of two things that would distract her as you wander arm in arm and one can’t be done out in the courtyard, or at least shouldn’t, so you bring up her other passion. “I suppose we have some gold to spend now,” you say enticingly. The two of you spend the better part of the afternoon debating on the best use of the gold before finally deciding on:

Choose one:

>Maester
+3 to House Fortunes, choose 3 specialties (will get to that if it wins vote)
>Artisan craftsman: Jeweler
Resource gain bonus: +1 wealth, +1 Influence
Can create the Exceptional Jewelry commodity from Pearls + Gold/Silver
>Artisan craftsman: Architect
Resource Gain Bonus: +1 Defense
Build time reduction of 20% for building holdings, +1 CD in communities/defensive holdings
>Artisan craftsman: Master Chef
Resource Gain Bonus: +1 Influence
Double influence gain from hosting feasts
>Fishing Fleet
Resource Gain Bonus: +2 Population
Resource Loss Mitigation: +1 Population, +1 Wealth
+20 Food produced each month
>Write-in
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Okay, that's it for tonight! I have a lot to do tomorrow, so we will pick up on Monday. I think House Reynold Quest may be running tomorrow though. Thanks for playing!
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>>3881555
>>Maester

I would rather we get a Fishing fleet.
But seems like we should get someone to fill us in and best council us on many matters. And I am sure fishing fleet would do better and not destroyed if we can get a warship unit or two protecting them.
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>>3881555
>You’re a true knight
This also hurts..While I get where she is coming from still hurts.
Which really cemented the vote for a Maester. We need someone who is thinking of the house and it's future, and soley that.
As for the three just so people can start picking and thinking.
Sailing - We should be moving into more sailing themed things if we are to commit to more warships. Having someone well versed with it could help.
Economics - Money and connections are always nice.
Healing - Having some one to look after the health of all of the children in the house would be nice. Ciara could learn a thing or two from him.
I would rather have warfare, but these options seem like more fun can come from these and safer options are given Carmaic's history that we set off into danger quickly

>>3881559
Just to confirm, with this we complete Hardy's part of the deal after dealing with these pirates/w.e
and we are free and clear of any more to our part of the deal besides mutual aid?
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>>3881555
>>Fishing Fleet
We could have Maeve help us out. When we need it.
But profit like crazy in the mean time. Trade off the food. But increase population and power will increase our needs.
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>>3881555
>Maester
+3 to House Fortunes, choose 3 specialties (will get to that if it wins vote)
Healing
Spying
Trade
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>>3881555
>>Maester
Healing
Spying
Trade
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>>3881555
>>Artisan craftsman: Jeweler
>>Fishing Fleet
One of these two definitely. A maester is good but +3 to house fortune is trash compared to +1 wealth and influence or +20 food a month.
I'd also point out that the extra wealth from a jeweller or fishermen means we can buy a maester quite soon anyway.

Boggs, can you run through the benefits of extra food or exceptional jewellry. I can't remember how the food converts to wealth via trade.
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>>3881373
>Anders and his big friend stomping pirate ass.
Yeah, there has been a woeful lack of mention of Ser Peter since we've ourselves knighted him.
Being injured and lacking in melee, he could be our personal bodyguard during the ambush and onwards.

>>3881555
A maester has advantages beyond just "+3 house fortunes".

Healing? Ditto.
Trade? Eh. Atia already covers it confidently.
Idk the hell is spying supposed to mean. Political sabotage science lol?
Knowledge (History/Heraldy) will come handy later when the whole Blackfyre thing unfolds and it is a generally valuable knowledge.
Maybe Nature too if it means natural sciences. Has a crapton of applications from messing with incendiaries (deciding during ship combat) to drying the bog and exporting/using the peat as fuel.

And sailing? There is a shipwright artisan for that. You're not going on expedition around the world with your maester (or are we???) to warrant a specialty in marine navigation.
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>>3881555
>Fishing Fleet
or
>Artisan craftsman: Jeweler

Also I see people picking quite shity traits for
>Maester
Healing? Trade? Espionage? We already have those covered. Look at in what we are lacking.
Warfare for instance. Best we got is 3! I assume our uncle got better or same.
Sailing. No one in house is expirience in this matters. He will be esential espeicaly when Atias father will call for help.
History/(heraldry/houses) same as with sailing general lack of expierience in this field in our house.
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>>3881555
>Maester
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>>3881197
>>Lure the pirates in with a trading cog and ambush at sea
Seriously? We are putting ourselves in life or death situation?

Not only we are abandoning advantages like numbers, maneuvering, possibility of retreat. We putting ourselves and our man in situation where we are at disadvantage from lack of experience of boarding and general fighting at sea. Pirates have chance to escape if we are discovered. For this to work, at least how I see it we won't be able to start shooting to early.
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>>3881801
We could make same trap on land using Badgers as bait
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As with your other holdings, you don't instantly get these. For example, you will probably have warships by the time a fishing fleet is fully ready. Maester takes 1d6 months, craftsmen take 2d6, and fishing fleet will be 3d6.

>>3881592
>Just to confirm, with this we complete Hardy's part of the deal after dealing with these pirates/w.e
and we are free and clear of any more to our part of the deal besides mutual aid?

Yup!

>>3881709
>Boggs, can you run through the benefits of extra food or exceptional jewellry. I can't remember how the food converts to wealth via trade.

Sure. Normal market value of 1 wealth is 40 food/common goods, 20 Superior goods (your pearls), or 10 Exceptional goods. You can potentially get more for the goods with trade deals though. Combining 1 unit of pearls and 1 unit of gold bars (both are superior quality) will net 2 units of Exceptional Jewelry. This is easily the best way for the house to bring in some profit, but you will still need to find that gold connection.
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>>3881852
Another argument for a Maester. We can get one next month if we roll well. Pretty comfy.
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>>3881797
>>3881765
Healing most people agree.
But the point to cover that is to have someone who knows more than Ciara. She could learn from him as well. She can act with him and help. It would also give us the ability to have two healers in the house. But more than likely we can count on Ciara less and give her more time to spend with her husband and be a wife more than a house healer.

Economics/trade - While yes Atia has that shit on lock. some times she will be indisposed taking care of our kid, possibly with us far away from our own lands. We need someone that can support her around the clock and give advice as needed. Atia is young.
He also likely has a plethora of knowledge she doesn't about prices on this land that she doesn't. Who has what goods, and what they lack for Westeros. Hearaldry might help more with that Potentially finding us trade deals from his connections.

Sailing - Because we plan on expanding that front and having someone who is knowledgeable about these things help. As we have no one with practical or theoretical knowledge on this topic.

My points are more standing from Cormaic's point of view to let his family members have easier lives, and let them focus on their own lives than have to worry about menial jobs around the house. They can still do it, but they will have support to do it from then on. And get better with sound advice from someone who's life has been focused on these things. So they can increase their skills with him around.
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>>3881896
>Healing most people agree.
>But the point to cover that is to have someone who knows more than Ciara. She could learn from him as well.
Technically depending on circumstances Ciara can be rank below or above him (4-6). What can be simply fix by buying her some books and increasing her knowledge and healing ranks.
>Economics/trade
He could learn from Atia as stats stands. Her 'lack' of knowledge didn't stop her from getting furs at ridiculous cheap price.

And again we don't have anyone with WARFARE and HISTORY.
This are clear weaknesses in our house that should have been fixed.
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>>3881945
Which advantages do you plan to exploit with the knowledge of warfare? We aren't even a big military house.

And I don't understand over fixation on healing. How many player houses focused on it and what have they achieved with it? Are we going to open a beach rehab or something? Important people get injured, maesters treat them. That's really it.

>>3881896
>Sailing - Because we plan on expanding that front and having someone who is knowledgeable about these things help. As we have no one with practical or theoretical knowledge on this topic.
Then hire an experienced ship captain. What you're describing is not a maester.
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For those that don't want to go digging, this was my orignial post on maester specialties last week:

>There won't be any additional benefits beyond the +3 to house fortunes, at least at the house fortunes level, because that would be a little too broken. He would still bring some very specific knowledge to the table. For example, you wouldn't be at a disadvantage when speaking to normally unknown houses if he is a Heraldry guy; he could assist with house fortunes in a stewardship role for Economics (though your wife already does a good job with this); Healing is what it's labeled as, he could heal injuries/wounds and better assist with labor/delivery; for Sailing, he may be able to give some unique insight on ships that may open an appealing door or two for you; Warfare would give you a guy who is very well-read on strategy and tactics, which could help if you're planning for a fight. I'll need to think more about Architecture. I have a couple of ideas for it, but don't want to drop them just yet. And Magic too, that's it's own animal. Obviously he won't know magic, he'll just know of it. That's another one where I have a few ideas that I don't want to spoil. So yeah, I guess you could say it's a lot of mystery box plot stuff that may not come up normally. Essentially, you would have access to knowledge in those specialty fields that you normally wouldn't and knowledge opens doors.

The discussion has been great so far. The only thing I have to add is that I'm not quite sure where Espionage is coming from. That would be a singularly dangerous thing for the Citadel to openly train their upcoming maesters in as it could undermine the very fabric of trust and neutrality that the order depends upon for its survival. If you want your own spies then you'll need to purchase that holding separately.

The vote for which holding to purchase will close at 7pm EST. It's still fairly close. If maester does win, then I'll throw up the vote on the specialties at that time as an overnight vote.
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>>3882055
If the vote passes could you elaborate on the options?
Seems like sailing us the one lock.
While econimics/trade and healing might be out for warfare and heraldry.
If we ever plan on doing more tournaments, theres a tourney master that have the specialty to add heraldry specialty. But I dont see this being a tournament house much.
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Maybe it might be worth investing in shipbuilding or knowledge of weather? Not specifically someone who knows how to sail a ship, but some complimentary facets of knowledge?
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>>3881971
>Which advantages do you plan to exploit with the knowledge of warfare? We aren't even a big military house.
We don't need to be big to use it. Warfare has usage in small battles and skirmishes. MC and our sworn man could use him to better their abilities.
We ourselves are about to have 4 units with ships. With Maeve our ally we would have 6/7 I think. Thats significant force that could probably use someone with warfare knowledge.
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>>3882078
Sure, I'll elaborate in the vote prompt like I did for the holdings.

I will say that healing depends a lot on what you all ultimately plan to do with Ciara. It's a bit redundant with her at your side, but if you ever plan on putting her somewhere else separate from you then it becomes more relevant. Her marriage has complicated her role a bit.
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Il change my Maester vote to
Healing
Warfare
History
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>>3882166
Well, I'd be more than happy to concede wholly on the point of healing if we are going to cover Ciara with some books on healing to help fill in gaps. Get her as well learned in that subject as possible.
I don't see her going anywhere, for the next 15-20 years. Even if she gets pregnant tomorrow, the kids likely won't be married for another 15 years. and that would still be early at like 14.

That being said instead of healing I would go for heraldry. I believe that is likely the same as history. We would know who has which rights to what, and what claims we could potentially push for. In either house Bogg or Blackfyre. The same with house Pyne to help us in deciding how we can maneuver with that house.
Also, a Maester that knows what house has what to thier name and what they are best known for, what they produce and at what quality. Combined with one that studied trade makes for quite the fucking combo.
If we ever want to look for a specific materialgold bars we will know who produces them, and what they are likely looking to expand or want/need to trade for. He may even be able to connect us via a contact he has made with that house before. For either his learning of heraldry or economics.
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>>3882259
The vote's not for another 4 hours, but I'll make a note of this in case you can't make it.

>>3882267
Yeah, I'm combining history and heraldry because they are similar and not the most enticing on their own.

The anon that discussed setting up a trading post down here at the villa gave me an idea for that. At some point in the near future, I'll end up offering a vote for the newlyweds to stay down here and manage that side of the house when you return to your seat. It's already going to be a midpoint for any weapons sold from House Brax and could be for other trade deals in the future too. That'll probably be the last chance at a bannerman (and that sweet +1D to house fortunes) in the foreseeable future, small as they would be. I was going to keep it under wraps until it was the right time to vote on it, but it's not a spoiler and you only get the maester vote once. Just something to think about now that Pynewatch will likely be remaining semi-independent of you.
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>>3881555
Maester
Sailing
Trade
Warfare
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>>3882344
Well Maester likely has the lock.
I'll vote once it's set as the lock and all of our options are presented and explained together so people are less confused and make an informed decision.
Around 7, if nothing really changes it becomes a lock and you give us what the options are then, correct?
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>>3881971
This would be the kinda funny The Boggs healing and relaxation Resort
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>>3882372
Yeah it is ridiculous enough to become a thing.
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>>3882349
Yup, I still have to finalize everything on my end and I'm not at my computer right now, but it should be ready for tonight phoneposting like I usually am during the day.
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>>3882380
>>3882372
I mean it's not crazy...Considering there is a port we will be building more foot traffic never hurts...
HEALING SITE SETTLEMENT
Time: 12+1d6 months Requirement: None

Investment: 10 Wealth

Be it a spring, healing stone, or holy relic, your House has some item of interest that draws travelers from far and wide to benefit from its healing power. Whether there is any actual healing power to be had is up for debate, but the coins brought by these hopefuls are quite real.
House Fortunes Roll: +1.
Resource Gain Bonus: Population +1, Wealth +1
Improvements
The following improvements are available for Healing Site
Holdings.

Actual Healing Artifact*: +5 Wealth; can only be purchased when the Healing Site is purchased. The healing artifact of your House does have actual healing powers.
New Rule: Anywho touch it gain +1B to Endurance for natural healing checks for the next month.
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>>3882386
I just saw that our chest plate was damaged. We should really get that repaired.
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>>3882380
Yeah old Knights and Sellswords come far and wide to use the "healing" mud.
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Since it looks like maester is going to win
>Heraldry/History
Easily the most underrated specialisation but something we 100% need given our wife's background. I'm assuming this also covers some degree of knowledge of Westerosi politics and relationships between houses which is something no one else in our house really has.
>Magic/The Higher Mysteries
>Magic too, that's it's own animal. Obviously he won't know magic, he'll just know of it. That's another one where I have a few ideas that I don't want to spoil.
Come one y'all, doesn't this sound like Boggs has some cool ideas for a magic educated maester? Not to mention the visions we had in the fire and all that.
>Warfare or Trade/Economics
Less excited by whatever our third choice is but I think these are likely to be more useful than sailing or healing.
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>>3882532
>History and Heraldry
>Magic
>Nature
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>>3882538
Sorry, forgot my image. I got you.

>Calling it for maester a little early since it seems unlikely this will shift now. This next vote will close tomorrow.
Please pick 3 of the following:

>Healing
Useful for recovering from injuries/wounds and for childbirth. Ciara has this covered, but she is also one of the only people you have to rely on for other things.
>Economics
The maester will be more knowledgeable on trade and the management of coin. Atia definitely has this covered, but it’s likely that he may be able to provide more council on what types of goods different houses have to offer, which Atia typically doesn’t know. You’re stretched pretty thin on trade already though, so make of that what you will.
>Sailing
More knowledge on ships and such. Will have some unique insight on which directions to go in with building warships of your own, including the types of ships and their advantages.
>Warfare
He’s a maester, not a warrior, so he won’t be leading your armies, but his knowledge of strategy can help you plan for battles in advance.
>Architecture
He may know of some unique ways to work improvements into your lands. Also, may have a few choice things to say on siegecraft.
>History and Heraldry
He’s particularly well-versed in the various noble houses of Westeros, their colors, and where they may have stood in past conflicts and disputes. If you were desiring to dive into your wife’s origins, then he may be able to tell you historical friends from foes. Not that the old dispositions are guaranteed to stay the same.
>Nature
Seasons, weather, animals, plants. Typically overlooked things, but your sister would tell you some plants hold their own miracles, for example.
>Magic
Mystery boxes are supposed to be last on lists, right? As I’ve said before, he won’t be a sorcerer in his own right, but he will know of magic and its history. How important is that? That would be telling.
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>>3882556
>Warfare
>History and Heraldry
>Magic
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>>3882556
>>History and Heraldry
>Sailing
>Economics
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>>3882556
Sailing- definitely should be wanting this because of what we're planning to do with the docks and all that

Healing- my opinion we can never go wrong with having a another person knowing how to heal

Im worried that magic would be a dead vote but I don't think Boggs would do that to us
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>>3882556
>>History and Heraldry - We are weak with this
>>Sailing - We will be expanding into this shortly
>>Architecture - This could be interesting given our land what advice he may have.Still I want to buy some healing books for Ciara
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>>3882556
>Healing
We are totally going to get hurt fighting pirates.
>Architecture
Built strong to last long.
>Magic
I'm falling for the mystery box.

We've seen magic stuff doe sort of exist or faith based stuff anyways
I also want nature and history.
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>>3882556
>Healing
>History and Heraldry
>Sailing

We’re a trade / espionage power

Warfare is of dubious use given our weakness and our lands are small and wild, making architecture less useful

I also just don’t like mystery box, magic should be rare and I feel like it’s either going to be a dead option or something too OP
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>>3882556
>>3882474
>>Heraldry/History
>>The Higher Mysteries
>>Warfare, Nature or Economics
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>>3882556
>Healing
>History and Heraldry
>Magic
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>>3882820
How are we an espionage power? Everything we find out through spying is through Varys.
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>>3882986
Which is a huge amount more than most Houses would get.
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>>3882820
>I also just don’t like mystery box, magic should be rare and I feel like it’s either going to be a dead option or something too OP

I agree with you. It should be very rare, especially in year 284. There are no trap options on that list though.

I've actually been working on a side project of sorts to unfuck Chronicle of Sorcery, but the vast majority of my work there won't be relevant until the dragons are born at the end of Month I, year 299. It's still a work in progress, but I would say it should turn out to be appropriately balanced if/when such a time comes for us to play with it.
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>>3883290
We can't have Varys at our beck and call for every little thing, we don't have any actual spying ability. We request it on the mercy or generosity of the top spymaster in the kingdom, which is frankly BS if we can call him up just about whenever we want for questions.
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>>3883409
Except it's already a huge advantage compared to any others. We can have him focus some of his little birds for us and give us updates. When he hears something in say brune and Crabb lands and ofcourse he has someone watching our back for Gyles and his people.
The stronger we are the more he gains to benefit. From a pawn we can raise and be one of his most useful allies. Along with work coming from the queen. From shit like beating an archer she doesnt like in a tournament to burning down a forest in her name...
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>>3883415
Its just not realistic to expect him to be at our beck and call all the time, hes already given us more attention than he has most people, like Ned stark for comparison. Its just not practical for us to be able to summon him like that and show up in person. Having our own network would be a boon for the little things, locally and perhaps afar.

Vary's doesn't have spies everywhere and sometimes a simple question we have would require him either telling us he has no info or him sending a spy to the place and risking themselves to insert and send information back.

But if he can act as our spy master at our leisure then okay, I guess.

Archer one probably will come along with other options and we may not pick it, forest one we probably won't do in her name....
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>>3883429
Nobody is saying beck and call.

But most other Houses outside the majors have /no/ espionage capabilities - while we receive info from the King’s own spymaster. Not regularly, but that’s a lot more than any other House would get.
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>>3883398
Do you think we will be getting a Time skip at all or would we play through all the way to 299
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>>3883434
Actually Im dumb I completely forgot about the King Robert's Wet'n Wild Ride
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>>3883435
Can we get off the ride?
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>>3883437
I actually think we might be pretty useful during the ride so probably not
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>>3883431
And it would be very useful to us to have spies for the "little things".
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>>3883476
Also worth that the Spies, Saboteurs and Assassins holdings all run off the Cunning of whoever we appoint our Master of Spies/Saboteurs/Assassins. An abilty Atia has in spades.
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>>3882556
>History and Heraldry
>Nature
>Healing

It would be fun to have a maester who learned about magic and then recruit a red priest(ess) and have them argue about that shit but that pick is still utterly impractical.
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>>3883434
I think it's very possible that we will do a timeskip to ~290 after another 2 years or so in quest. I'm looking forward to Greyjoy stuff for sure. Seems pretty likely that you would end up participating there. Then maybe another timeskip to ~298 after a few threads playing through that little rebellion. I'm not 100% sure on any of this because you guys and the dice have both already taken this quest in a bunch of directions that I hadn't anticipated. Could be that I expect to timeskip and then a bunch of stuff happens instead.
>>3883504
Yeah Cunning 5 is pretty great, especially with Head for Numbers. You're only 1 behind her too. I think Cormaic has the highest cunning of the MCs that I've seen even if it's only 4. It would be pretty hilarious if you ended up with rank 6 in that or stealth and really focused on the spying.
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>>3883618
How tall is Cormaic? It'll be pretty funny if our child ends up being a giant seafaring Warrior that swing a anchor around as a weapon do children get parental traits?
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>>3883636
Not that tall. 5-9 or 5-10. And Atia is like 5-1 or so. Children can be taller than their parents, but I wouldn't expect a crazy outlier.

Maeve is taller for a woman at 5-7, so all hope isn't lost. She has a Baratheon look about her with their eyes/hair. The Storm Kings of old did try to conquer Crackclaw Point in past. It didn't go so well, but Pynewatch sprung up during that time period. It could just be a coincidence though.
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>>3883650
Are the children automatically going to hate each other? If Maeve does have a girl how is Atia going to react don't know if you give an answer.
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>>3883670
They wouldn't automatically hate each other, but it's a real possibility given the feelings of their mothers right now. Cormaic has some agency, as he should, in influencing their upbringings. I'd suspect that will be something to be handled after timeskips though.

According to what she's already said in character, Atia doesn't much care what the gender is. Who knows though? I try to make a point of not always having characters feed you the most accurate information. The bad advice you got on Ciara right after you woke up would be an example of that from this thread. You guys handled that well enough though.
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>>3884266

New thread.



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