>>3896839
high brow discussion from the last thread
>>3896815
>>3896817
>>3896823
>>3896830
>>3896836

Rolled 2 (1d2)

>>3896844
>As there is parity, someone please roll d2, on 1 policy is implemented.

>>3896839
My vote was for the women to atleast have a child if in the child baring age.

While it may hinder us in the short term, Long term will provide us with many a families.

This guy >>3896850 posted after I said my peace in the chat.

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Storm Dragons Chapter Master Dravion welcomed us and told us the following:
> My name is Dravion, I am the Chapter Master of the Storm Dragons. We have indeed received Astartes who bore the colours and name of the Ghosts of Retribution. They were very curious, but we shared with them what we could in exchange for the news from the Sector Deus. I believe that was less than three years ago, so I am surprised that another ship of yours has arrived so quickly. How else can we help you?
>They inquired about many different things and among them they asked about the chapter known as Dark Hunters. We provided limited information we ourselves had and warned them - Dark Hunters are a strange and predatory Chapter, they're not very welcoming of guests. We did not know where is their Fortress Monastery, but during our travels we have found one of their listening stations in the Mahara Sector, almost beyond the edge of Imperium. Those are wild and dangerous reaches of space. However Damoklon, I believe that was his name, informed us that their navigator detected an unusually favourable warp current in that direction and decided to go for it. As I understand they wanted to visit Dark Hunters as quickly as possible, before returning. I am guessing that you have not heard from them? Well, but we talked long enough on the comms channel. Please, come and visit, I insist.

He is inviting your delegation to visit his Battle Barge, Tempestia Draconis. Your crew has scanned the ship:

Tempestia Draconis is clearly an ancient Battle Barge. Closer examination shows numerous reconstructed turrets and later additions of slightly different design on top of the old superstructure. From this a keen observer can make two educated guesses:
1) This ships has seen quite a lot of battles over the years
2) This Chapter cannot afford or for some other reasons will not restore ships fully, like GoR do - it seems that their repairs were done primarily 'in-house', possibly by some freelancer frontier techno-mages, but not by established AdMech shipyards.
3) Ship is on it's own, you can detect no escorts

>>3896859
Let's pay Dravion a visit. I assume all his ship's IFF tags (or equivalent) have checked out. Just make sure our own ships stay outside weapons range.

Yes/No guys?

>>3896856
Chat has no power here, Gandalf the Grey.

>>3896861
Sounds good.

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>>3896850
>>3896856
As now we have 3 vs 2, the policy will be implemented.

All women who reach child bearing age will be required to have at least X children between ages of 20 - 40. X is:
a) 2 (replacement)
b) 3 (growth)
c) 4 (considerable growth) Will require repressive enforcement.
d) 5 (extreme growth) Will require repressive enforcement.
e) Take women out of workforce and ensure maximum possible population growth rates. Will require armed enforcement.

As Varda has only volunteer military service, in a rare twist of social policy (as compared to average Imperial planets), men on Varda now actually have lighter duties than women.

Please roll:
- Population reaction (d100)
- Economic impact (d100)
- Demographic impact (d100)

>>3896861
>>3896865
What is your delegation? Just Trianon or is he accompanied by anyone? [please roll d100 for the visit]

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>>3896880
>As now we have 3 vs 2, the policy will be implemented.
>b) 3 (growth)
The child ennobles the mother.

Will roll once we choose an option.

Rolled 80 (1d100)

>>3896880
>What is your delegation? Just Trianon or is he accompanied by anyone? [please roll d100 for the visit]

Take Dragrock along too, and a few marines to stay in the thunderhawk.

Rolled 66 (1d100)

>>3896880
>B
>Rolling for Population reaction

Rolled 97 (1d100)

>>3896880
>B

- Economic impact (d100)

Rolled 21 (1d100)

>>3896880
>- Demographic impact (d100)
Lyk to the rescue.

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>>3896889
>>3896890
>>3896891
>>3896884

Population of Varda does not react to the new edict well, but Kvei Lohar reports that all is not as bad as could be expected. Most of the people are used to being treated with quite a lot of respect and live generally free and happy lives as compared with most of the Imperium, so this new policy is quite a shock to them.

+Effects+
Vardan Imperialist Council is created - a movement of citizens who believe that Varda should return to Imperial, rather than Chapter rule. It is not a big organisation, but is getting more traction with every passing month. They primarily organise protests and have loud debates in public squares. Do you:
a) Outlaw it
b) Inflitrate it
c) Ignore it
d) Invite their leaders to a public forum and debate them
e) Allow Kvei Lohar to deal with it as he sees it fit
f) Agree with their demands and give up control of Varda

New loyalty counter in Varda [replace "Imperial" with "Council"], set it at 10+d10%.

+Economics+
Due to the effects of implementing policy, this year's Vardan income will be reduced by 75%. Impact of having less women in the workforce is also considerable, Varda will be receiving -20% penalty on all profits.

+Demographics+
Varda gets a new modifier [Enforced family policy +5%]
Initial boost from the introduction of the policy leads to an immediate increase of the population by 10% (480 000].

>>3896918
Didn't one of the women in that picture star in bestiality porn?

>d) Invite their leaders to a public forum and debate them
We're doing everything we do on this planet for the Imperium and for them. Including this new policy. If Varda wants to survive in a hostile galaxy it needs enough people to defend itself.

>>3896918
>Do you:
g) reverse the decision and apologise for making a mistake

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>>3896922
>apologise

>>3896918
d) Invite their leaders to a public forum and debate them

>>3896922
Agreed, we don’t need more men, but better quality ones. Turn the entire planet into a gym

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>>3896925
>>3896923
>>3896922
>>3896920

Please make a 3 sentence argument why is this policy good for Varda and Imperium, roll your Charm.

Also, please roll 10+d10 for the popularity of the Imperialist council.

Every point of success will reduce their popularity by 1%.

+Session suspended.+
Next session - Tuesday 5 November. Have a lovely Halloween guys!

Rolled 7 + 10 (1d10 + 10)

>>3896935
Fuck it, Rolling the popularity

>>3896935
Thanks for the session Skargan, have a good Halloween.

Don't drink too much sake.

>>3896935
have a blast lad, was amazing to catch it live. Don't fucking die. Or else you prove Luigi right and we'll never hear the end of it!

>>3896935
the most of vardas surface is largely unpopulated by humans, but still holds orks who might rebuild their strengths in the uninhabited wilderness
as all of you are aware attempts to bring foreign populations into varda brought strife and turmoil, the only way to populate the planet is to rely on its people

be open for other suggestions to solve the problem

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>>3896935
>Please make a 3 sentence argument why is this policy good for Varda and Imperium, roll your Charm
Both Xenos and misguided imperials attacked Varda before and were only removed and repelled due to the sarcrifices of our chapter.
To ensure the safety of Vardan's future generations, the currently sparsely populated planet must grow stronger and less dependent on outside protection or immigration.
The best and only way to achieve martial, economic and political growth in the long run and allow Varda to take its rightful place among this sector's beacons of humanity's strength is population growth, as no matter how hardy and determined a people is, it still needs raw numbers to lead humanity to a future the Emperor would be proud of and the Vardan people were born to lead.

Rolled 33 (1d100)

>>3896969
>>3896935
> roll your Charm.

>>3896969
>>3897018
I would've liked to bring frontier-spirit, the necessity to tame Varda and the fact that outsiders would probably not be as capable of doing so as our native Vardan stock into it.
If somebody can think of a good way of working that into the minispeech somewhere between the captatio benevolentiae and the finale that would be neat.

>>3896918
>>3896935
I'll just try and illustrate the effects of this policy so a final decision can be made.
So let's ignore the immediate consequences, they've been and gone so whatever.

Firstly there are significant social impacts. As we can see this is the first time the Vardan people have outright disliked the Chapter. As this is hard to quantify I will move on to the material cost.

Over a period of 20 years this policy will cost us around 500 wealth in lost income, for a benefit of ~600k additional population.
Over 50 years the cost is 1,250 wealth and the benefit is ~2.4 million in population.
Over *100* years this is a loss of 2,500 wealth and ~11 million people, which by then is still less than a third of the population.

Over just 20 ears that's enough money for a strike cruiser (more of which I am so often told we need). Or a squadron of 4 frigates. Or a fully equipped battle company including vehicles and aircraft.
Not to mention that the vast amounts of money lost could be used to expand the population in other far more efficient ways. Simply ringfencing 25w of our income per year for pro-family social benefits would be infinitely better and less offensive to the population.

In conclusion, I think this is an extremely wasteful course of action. More so than any other we have ever taken. Having said that, if no one is willing to change their mind so be it, and I won't mention it again.

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>>3898010
Just for Luigi sense he really fucking can't get over it, Sure if somehow turn back time let him.

But I want some shit his done also turned back.

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>>3898598
I posted a picture with a reddit watermark in this thread, as a solution I felt ashamed and edited it out in the picture to ensure the mark of shame won't have ill-effects in the future while I pretend the stain on my honour it has already caused is not existent.
I think Luigi is trying to do the same here, ignore what has happened
>So let's ignore the immediate consequences, they've been and gone so whatever.
And ensure no further damage is done in the future.
Needless to say, I disagree (not with the damage assessment but with the actions following from it) and think we should try to win our favourite vassals over.
We've put our ass on the line for them again and again in the past, let's have some faith in them and believe that we can win them over once they understand why we do what we do first.

>>3897037
>>3896969
>>3897018
The result of much internal discussion:

>>Please make a 3 sentence argument why is this policy good for Varda and Imperium, roll your Charm
Both Xenos and misguided imperials attacked Varda before and were only removed and repelled due to the sarcrifices of our chapter.
To ensure the safety of Vardan's future generations, the currently sparsely populated planet must grow stronger and less dependent on outside protection or immigration to tame it as only a chosen few like our handpicked new arrivals and the current Vardan stock can be trusted to achieve such an undertaking.
The best and only way to achieve martial, economic and political growth in the long run and allow Varda to take its rightful place among this sector's beacons of humanity's strength is population growth, as no matter how hardy and determined a people is, it still needs raw numbers to lead humanity to a future the Emperor would be proud of and the Vardan people were born to lead.

>>3902883
Sounds okay. I'd just change:
>the currently sparsely populated planet must grow stronger and less dependent on outside protection or immigration to tame it as only a chosen few like our handpicked new arrivals and the current Vardan stock can be trusted to achieve such an undertaking
to
>the currently sparsely populated planet must grow stronger and less dependent on outside influence as in this strife-filled galaxy there is never any guarantee of assistance from other planets.

To sound less hostile to immigrants. Otherwise our people might start developing mistrust of any new arrivals since we said they couldn't be trusted etc.

>>3904686
Sounds good.

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>>3902883
>>3897018
>>3896969
>>3896935
Final (?) text:
Both Xenos and misguided imperials attacked Varda before and were only removed and repelled due to the sarcrifices of our chapter.
To ensure the safety of Vardan's future generations, the currently sparsely populated planet must grow stronger and less dependent on outside influence as in this strife-filled galaxy there is never any guarantee of assistance from other planets.
The best and only way to achieve martial, economic and political growth in the long run and allow Varda to take its rightful place among this sector's beacons of humanity's strength is population growth, as no matter how hardy and determined a people is, it still needs raw numbers to lead humanity to a future the Emperor would be proud of and the Vardan people were born to lead.

Rolled 31 (1d100)

+Thread resumed+

>>3905563
>>3897018
Roll: 33
Charm: 60 (Argument: +10) = 70
Result: 37 success points

Rolling for Imperialist Council's arguments by their best orator, Mathiana Bargessi, who gives an impassioned speech about the importance of equality and free choice in matters of family planning.

Her skill: 34
Population is on her side of the argument: +20
Total: 54

>>3907198
Chapter: 37 success points
Imperialists: 23 success points
Result: Chapter wins the debate
+++
Chapter Master speaks to the people with authority and confidence that this is the right decision for Varda's people. Even if most people personally disagree, ingrained respect and submission to the authority of their Astartes overlords prevails. Your decision to confront Imperialists directly broke the momentum of their movement and it is severely diminished, but you are not successful enough to completely defeat them...
+++
Imperialist Council loyalty is reduced by (17-14)= 3%

You still have the following choices to follow up the debate, public will not react to them negatively in the light of your victory:
> Leave them be [expected growth +1% per year]
> Outlaw their organisation and disband them [-d10%]
> Use spies to assassinate and systematically dismantle their organisation [invest up to 5W]

>>3907212
>Leave them be [expected growth +1% per year]

Personally I also think we should phase-out the policy over the generation but that's not a decision only I can take.

>>3907212
>You still have the following choices to follow up the debate, public will not react to them negatively in the light of your victory:
>public will not react to them negatively in the light of your victory
If that's true then
>> Outlaw their organisation and disband them [-d10%]
Is the obvious choice.
As long as we roll a 3+ on a d10 we'll be rid of them.
We should, however, call for a yearly day of unity to remember this moment when the Vardans decided to work towards a brighter future.
Baby-day sounds dumb, any suggestions?

>>3907224
>We should, however, call for a yearly day of unity to remember this moment when the Vardans decided to work towards a brighter future.
>Baby-day sounds dumb, any suggestions?
I don't think we should try and make this into some weird fertility cult thing or it'll end up heretical. It always does.

>>3907212
>>Leave them be [expected growth +1% per year]

>>3907228
It's not about the babies, it's about what they represent, growth for Varda, unity (and to a lesser extent their willingness to trust us).

>>3907233
I understand that but celebratory days can get out of hand over a few decades.
All of a sudden the annual block parties become annual prayer parties then it just gets worse and worse.

>>3907232
Good to see you wrenloft.

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>>3907232
>You still have the following choices to follow up the debate, public will not react to them negatively in the light of your victory:
>public will not react to them negatively in the light of your victory:

Also, aside from the obvious I still think we should declare a public holiday.
Good behaviour should be rewarded.

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>>3907236
>All of a sudden the annual block parties become annual prayer parties then it just gets worse and worse.
Don't be such a party pooper, even if it somehow turns into a fertility cult, plenty of those cults are church-approved.
But, it really shouldn't. And even if it does, it's explicitly for the sake of the emperor and the Imperium.
Pic related, it's what you should say right now.

>>3907212
Hallo am new to quest so feel free to ignore or tell me if I push something dumb.

> Outlaw their organisation and disband them [-d10%]
Given a) The population won't react negatively and b) They're literally pushing for something illegal, this is an Astartes owned world now and it's not the people's decision to make if they go back to the Imperium or not.

>>3907216
>Personally I also think we should phase-out the policy over the generation but that's not a decision only I can take.
I'm in a bit of agreement, keep it for what it's getting us now but over the long-term this does not seem like it's economically worth unless those economic effects subside a bit over time. Possibly note as something for revisit and a decision on whether to renew or allow to expire.

>>3907224
Making a holiday is iffy, I agree with Luigi on this and there's an economic hit already. Perhaps do something like awards to mothers that have many children similar to how the Soviet Union did at one point. Incentives going above and beyond and adds a positive side to the mandate.

>>3907282
>Hallo am new to quest so feel free to ignore or tell me if I push something dumb.
Choose a nickname to post with and get in here, newblood.
https://client00.chat.mibbit.com/?channel=%23RisingSons&server=irc.Rizon.net
The holiday is just one day, shouldn't hurt the economy noticably.

>>3907289
Danek!

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>>3907216
>>3907224
>>3907232
>>3907282
2 for outlawing, 2 for leaving them be. Someone can roll d2 and break the deadlock, 1 will outlaw the Imperialist Council and their affiliates.
+++
>>3896885
Trianon and Dragrock arrive upon Tempestia Draconis, most prized vessel in the Storm Dragon's fleet. As Trianon enters its ancient halls, he is greeted by the towering figure of Chapter Master Dravion, who is a whole head taller than your emissary and almost as tall as Dragrock, who is one of the most massive marines in your whole Chapter. Dravion wears full battle armour, which looks impressive, but you also notice, that it is scarred and peppered with blast and shrapnel marks, paint is stripped in many places by the dust from distant worlds and golden trimmings are dull from the rays of alien suns. He smiles warmly at you though.

>I see your eyes are bothered by the state of my armour. Worry not, my friend, it is an ancient vow of ours. We do not fix what is not broken, and when we do, we preserve what is old. Welcome on Tempestia Draconis, our home. Please, let me show you our hospitality.

He takes your men to a dining hall, where a magnificent feast is served. Dravion introduces you to his Chaplain Ferratius, who wears an ornate helmet in the shape of a dragon-skull and to the Captain of their First Company, Wragion, who is missing left half of his face, lost to some xeno beast, by the look of the scars. Dragrock can't help himself and cracks a joke about seeing prettier gnar behinds than his face. After a brief explanation on Mormarkian xenolife and hasty apology from Trianon, your hosts laugh and tension dissipates, allowing everyone to enjoy the meal and each others company. Finally, after servitors remove the silver plates with scarce food leftovers, Dravion turns to Trianon:

>So, what do you wish to talk about, battle brother? We are few and far in between nowadays, Astartes. Our enemies are numerous and our friends are few. We are always eager to welcome new chapters to our table.

Trianon thinks for a moment...
>Political situation in the Imperium
>Intricacies of theological doctrine
>Memories of hard fought battles
>Partnership opportunities
>Small talk
>Other

>>3907332
Rollan

Rolled 1 (1d2)

>>3907332
>2 for outlawing, 2 for leaving them be. Someone can roll d2 and break the deadlock, 1 will outlaw the Imperialist Council and their affiliates.

Rolled 2 (1d2)

>>3907334
Not sure I fudged that. Oh well.

>>3907332
>Memories of hard fought battles
They seem to be marines that take great pride in their exploits in battle. Hopefully some of our best victories will impress them.

>Other
The Dark Hunters and where Damokleon & Stormchaser went.

>>3907332
>>Memories of hard fought battles
Let's start with something relatable.

>>3907339
>Hopefully some of our best victories will impress them.
>remember that time we only lost a quarter of our chapter on a bigger mission?
>yeah, that was neat, I even got a new leg!

>>3907344
Hey we've had successes!
Operation Wild Hunt. Battle of Sictix. The recent Triot Campaign.

>>3907345
Still haven't succeeded in the operation Tactical Girth in the Eldar Poweraxe-Wound though.

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>>3907336
As soon as the edict comes out, Kvei Lohar's men seize the meeting halls of the Imperialist movement, most of the leaders are arrested and requested to renounce their beliefs, while ordinary membership is fined. As you have widespread public consent (even if the policy itself is unpopular), there are no public repercussions to your actions.

+Imperialist Council is eliminated, remove their loyalty.+

Please roll:
Mathiana Bargessi's fate (d8):
1. Arrested
2. Leaves off-world
3. Becomes collaborator for Lohar's regime
4. Is killed by accident during the arrest
5. Is eliminated on purpose during the arrest
6. Escapes to the jungle
7. Becomes a terrorist
8. Retires

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>>3907350

Rolled 3 (1d8)

>>3907355
>Mathiana Bargessi's fate (d8):
COME ON THREE
THREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
GIMME THAT THOT
LET HER LIIIIIIIIVE

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>>3907363
This is how you win over the ladies, lads.

>>3907363
>>3907355

Other key members (2d5):
1. Disperse into the jungle
2. Reintegrate into civilian life
3. Leave off-world
4. Go underground
5. Are arrested

As Mathiana's decision to collaborate takes away a lot of the spirit from the movement, you can roll twice (2d5) and pick which results suits you best.

>>3907339
>>3907342
>>3907345
Trianon relates to them the tale of Operation Wild Hunt, when the Ghosts of Retribution confronted the foul renegades of the Ebon Host warband over the Shrine World of Artoria in Subsector Ionium.

Both Dravion and his men are impressed.
>It is no easy feat to fight against fallen Space Marines, especially those given to the dark powers of Nurgle. We had our fair share of fighting against their kind and once we even fought the same warband that you mentioned - Ebon Host, they were raiding some of the systems in the Gothic Sector. This makes you our battle brother not only in spirit, but in deed as well, my friend.
+++
Chapter gains [Reputation(Storm Dragons): Friendly]
+++
When you enquire about Damokleon's fate, Dravion opens up more:
>Your brother Damokleon visited us too. To be honest, we were quite suspicious, when he appeared out of nowhere and started asking questions about our Chapter, but we greeted him as a guest nonetheless. Ferratius allowed him to copy some of our non-secret records and chronicles, but when he requested access to our armoury, we had to refuse him, as we would you. Despite us welcoming our brothers with open arms, such secrets are not shared upon first meeting. We handed him over what we knew about Dark Hunters and bid him farewell with a warning - that Chapter is not like the others. They had a listening station in Mahara Sector, if you wish, I will share with you the details. But I am concerned for you and your brothers. If you would accept, I will send someone to accompany you on your quest to retrieve your brothers and find the Dark Hunters.

Rolled 3 (1d5)

>>3907412
>Other key members (2d5):
Here's mine, Lu takes the other.

Rolled 3 (1d5)

>>3907412
>If you would accept, I will send someone to accompany you on your quest to retrieve your brothers and find the Dark Hunters.
"I would be honoured Brother. Perhaps two chapters will be better than one when trying to contact the Dark Hunters peacefully."

Rolling one of them

>>3907412
>If you would accept, I will send someone to accompany you on your quest to retrieve your brothers and find the Dark Hunters.
Time to gather an A-Team consisting of fated chapter marines.

>>3907423
>>3907418
>Wonderful. Captain Wragion here has been itching for some action recently, after our last scuffle with the pirates a couple of years ago, no decent action came our way, so I thnk he will be more than happy to accompany you. I will send two squads with a Thunderhawk to accompany you. Good luck on your quest, brother Trianon.

+Reminder to myself - Operation Stormchaser rolls so far [kudos to Luigi]: 19, 52, 97, 2, 96, and 3.

Do you travel to Mahara Sector?

If yes, please roll d100 for warp travel and d100 for what greets you there.

+++
>>3907417
>>3907418
Imperialist Council is gone, but their members flee Varda and soon your spies pick up a new name making rounds among dissident circles - Vardan Liberation Front is born. For the time being they seem to have their HQ based in Tachion Primaris, but they are keeping a low profile. For now...

+++ Session over +++
Thank you for playing. Next game, next Tuesday, see you then!

>>3907445
Thanks Skarg! Have a good week.

Rolled 85 (1d100)

>>3907445
>d100 for what greets you there.

Rolled 39 (1d100)

>>3907445
Rollan for the warp.

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Hours of work in paint and different editors.
I need to learn to photoshop. Still working on a proper picture though.

>>3918974
>Still working on a proper picture though.
Should probably have written
>still asking for actual artfags to take it on in a request thread

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>>3918974
Another hour in paint and a helpful guy in photoshop who took care of the aquila later and this is the result.
I'll probably leave it at that unless there's some feedback I could somehow integrate with my mediocre skills in MS Paint.

>>3907445
Btw I vote for rescinding the policy unless there is any chance of the economic penalties decreasing.

>>3919254
In here we make our own chances.

So I finally got Gimp this morning and have been watching videos and reading guides ever since, let's see what I can do with that.

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>>3920370
This shouldn't have taken me 9-10 hours.
But it did.

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>>3920739

>>3920739
>>3920743
This is supposed to be Macedon by the way.

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>>3920739
>>3920743
>hurr durr the sword doesn't fit
FUCK YOU LUIGI

Not sure if I like this more than the original tbqh, the style of Deathstroke clashes a bit with the rest of the picture, but at least it's represented now.

Opinions?

>>3922312
>>3920739
Yeah I think thiis >>3920739
is greater than this>>3922312

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I wish I would've known everything I know now at the beginning of the week when I worked on the hull-edit.
But I guess you have to spend 30 hours to make 30 hours of progress.

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>>3924134
Original

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>>3924134
>>3924138
Unfucked the banner a bit.
>inb4 our contemptor chassis is currently empty
I know

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>>3924153
Spent an hour or two learning about lighting effects and revised the glow a bit.

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>>3926844
cleaned up the plasmacoils a bit

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>>3927263
Tiny change to the lighting on the gun.