>>3922331
Miellewds-guy here. Got ambushed by work.

>Other: Do you like the current perspective, or would you like to have more empathy, and I improve your specs more?
I just want to be sure that she is okay with the new and improved perspective and mental change.

>>3922516
>>Other: Do you like the current perspective, or would you like to have more empathy, and I improve your specs more?

"Ah... I do. I..." - she pauses - "Thinking back... no, remembering the way I have acted towards other people, the only excuse I can offer is that I genuinely did not understand I was hurting them. Its not as if it happened often, but I am over a hundred and fifty years old, so..."
"Accidental cruelty based on a lack of empathy once every three or four years. How dreadful- Naughty princess." - we chide her gently, then stop her when she looks about to get angry - "What I am saying is ...that is just being a normal person, you know? Everyone makes mistakes. I am sure that buying breaf from bakery a makes the people in bakery b unhappy... it happens. Its not cruelty, or even malice."
"But thinking about it..."
"There was no malice behind it. You are not a bad person. A bad person wouldn't care, you know?"
"Uuh... I... I want to be a better person."
"That means you're a good person, too."

>Alright, let's raise her attributes like she wants us to
>I think our princess is surprisingly nice and its fine the way she is. Lets just tell her we'll raise her attributes but keep as as she is
>Other

>>3922542
>Alright, let's raise her attributes like she wants us to
>Other: tell her that there may be unforeseen side effects from being too sensitive, and we will reduce it if we feel she is hurting.
Make sure to tell her that it may become too great of a burden to bear, having so much empathy. If that happens, we will lower it down to a manageable level.

>>3922542
supporting >>3922560

>>3922578
>>3922560
I should have asked, which of her attributes are we raising, just empathy?

>>3922560
Il back

>>3922631
I mean we could rise all of them if thats what she wants, we will only do as she asks.

>>3922631
Guts, Intelligence Wisdom, Empathy.
I was thinking of increasing Lust, but we changed the attributes quite a bit, so let's confirm which ones they are now:

Wisdom - increases Wisdom stat during level up
Intelligence - increases Intelligence stat during level up
Grit - increases Physical stats during level up
Empathy - how well the Pet understands others
Tidiness - How neat they keep themselves
Sociability - how outspoken and social they are.
Obedience - obvious
Temperament - how patient they are
Lust - obvious
Trust - once hits 100 new stat Loyalty opens
Loyalty - once hits 100 new stat Love opens

Is this right?

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>>3922675
Wisdom raises gains for all mental stats, and intelligence gives a bonus to exp gained. Other than that, its correct

>>3922697
Okay, then for Kya, I want:
Wisdom: MAX
Intelligence: MAX
Grit: MAX
Empathy: MAX
Tidiness: MAX
Sociability: MAX
Obedience: No Change
Temperament: MAX
Lust: MAX

But before we MAX out Lust, we tell her that's what we plan to do, so that she has a chance to ask us to keep it lower.
Obedience, I want to keep unchanged because I want to earn her MAX Obedience.

>>3922717
No slider movement on the specifics like submissiveness, oral, etc?

>>3922830
Her Love is still locked, so we can't change submissiveness or F/M.

Make these changes:

Anal + I-O---------I -
Oral + I--O--------I -
Orgy + I--O--------I -

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>>3922835
That seems funny, for some reason. Anyway, sure.

Raising a lot of attributes to max and moving some sliders, got it.

***

"Alright, I am making you into my pet again so I can raise your attributes, alright?"
"Yes. Ah... Eldric. No... master, I want to remain your pet!" - she manages to push out, albeit turning apple red in the process
"You know I can't trust those to be your fee-_"
"I am not your pet right now." - she interrupts us - "These are my own feelings." - she says, blushing from tip to toe, yet managing to look at us in the eye - "As your pet, I can stay with you at all times, am practically indestructible, and can share my feelings without fear of social pressure. It is convenient in many ways, not the least important of is the fact that if I am defeated, I can simply go back to your [Menagerie] and rest for a day." - she pauses for air after saying all that, then calms down a little bit and continues - "We will face the invasion... no, a flood of [ERROR]s soon, It is the most important event affecting our world, and every advantage is important. I see no good reason to pass on this one."
"Well, I-"

>I understand (keep her as our pet)
>I think you should think about it for a little more, how about becoming my toy instead?
>Other

>>3922904
>Other;”: But what about your brother? And not just your brother, but our alliance against the [ERROR]s? Wouldn’t a Princess be more able to order soldiers and governments? I have plenty of Plants, who are the best suited for fighting [ERROR]s anyway.

>>3922904
>I think you should think about it for a little more, how about becoming my toy instead?

She does bring up some good points. Aside from her being able to easily revive if killed, we know that this world imposed mental limiters on its natives. She might be free of some of them while she’s a Pet, even if she has other mental limits out on her.

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>>3922962
That's true. To begin with, she sees other pets as people, obviously, and wouldnt be affected by a dancer's 'glamour', to begin with.

Anyway, looks like a tie, so Im gonna wait for a tie breaker for a bit, then flip a coin

>>3922904
supporting >>3922917

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>>3923038
>>3922917
>>Other;”: But what about your brother? And not just your brother, but our alliance against the [ERROR]s? Wouldn’t a Princess be more able to order soldiers and governments? I have plenty of Plants, who are the best suited for fighting [ERROR]s anyway.

"The king won't be against it. Why would he, when it almost guarantees my safety? As for politics, the less I get involved on it, the better. His majesty will be quite busy solidifying his power base over the next century or so, thus the rest of the rest of the royal family should abstain from giving others the impression we are the least bit interested in the throne!" - she replies in a rush
"And our alliance?" - we ask while rubbing the top of her head.

Well, she looks rather adorable right now.

"An alliance by marriage... Its not as if brother would be happy thinking he bought you by using me, you know? I think he'd rather be your friend than your political partner." - she sighs

>Alright, then I'll accept you as my pet, but just so you know, I plan on doing lots of fun, lewd things to you
>Alright then. I'll accept you as my pet after you've completed training as my toy.
>I'd rather keep the beautiful princess as my personal toy, in secret
>Other

>>3923059
see you tomorrow guys, my cold is terrible

I want our princess to be our princess, but I want her to be happy and that’s to make her our pet.

>>3923120
Il back this.>>3923117
Hope you get better.

>>3923059
>I'd rather keep the beautiful princess as my personal toy, in secret
I really want to be able to publicly show our affection to Kya, and Lyann, and not be looked at as the really weird guy that fucks his pets.

>>3923930
We alredy are that super weird guy since we give them outfits. What we need to do is make it nornal for people to dress up there pets, time to make a event for it.

>>3923930
>>I'd rather keep the beautiful princess as my personal toy, in secret
>>3923733
>>3923120
>I want our princess to be our princess, but I want her to be happy and that’s to make her our pet.

Sorry guys, woke up at 4am and couldnt go back to sleep until like 10am, then have been super sluggish ever since. Just finished lunch and its 16:12.

So, petify her?

>>3924276
It seems to be. But we can always Release her later, so it's not permanent.
Lyann is going to be so insistent to be our Pet, too. How are our parents going to react to that?

>>3924276
Huh. If Lyann or Kya is our pet at the time, could we even have kids together? It’s an important question both from a dynastic perspective, and as part of the game system.

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>>3924401
>Huh. If Lyann or Kya is our pet at the time, could we even have kids together? It’s an important question both from a dynastic perspective, and as part of the game system.
Biology-wise, it should be doable with Lyann even if she's our pet.
With Kya, we'd need a blessing. Which is typically given upon marriage. Well, we have plenty of acquaintances with cleric levels, and know a goddess on a first-person basis.

***

"Alright, I'll accept you as my pet, and do lots of fun, lewd things to you." - we tease her gently
"...alright." - she nods
"That's 'Yes, please' from now on." - we correct her gently, then pull her in for a kiss

Shortly after (a cute lewd scene I'll write in pdf?), we have her standing in the middle of the portable field generator so she can turn back into a field monster that we can 'catch' and add to our [Menagerie].

[You've caught a [lvl 532 Divine - Majin], would you like to assign it a name?]

>We name her Kya
>Other

After that, we change her attributes once more, moving her Wisdom, Intelligence, Grit, Empathy, Tidiness, Sociability, Temperament and Lust to MAX, spending the vast majority of her level up points, and changing most of her lust-based sliders towards the far right.

Ah, now that we have accepted her as our pet, should we perhaps use the remaining points to Max out her love stat, so we can move those sliders around as well?

>She's indeed 'ours' now, so let's exert our ownership on her
>No, let's have it grow naturally... by the way, its already up to 65. It went up a lot over the last few hours.
>Other

>>3924450
>>We name her Kya
>No, let's have it grow naturally... by the way, its already up to 65. It went up a lot over the last few hours.

>>3924450
supporting >>3924465

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Alright then, now let's call out
>Stella
>Lyann
and talk about her attributes with her

>>3924524
Lyann

>>3924524
>>Lyann

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>>3924541
>>3924532
>Lyann

Our beloved redhead appears in front of us with a rather calm smile, and nods in confirmation.

"It seems to have worked fine." - she says
"Hm?"
"Trying the pet thing?" - she blinks and leans her head slightly towards the side
"Ah. Yes."

Well, I guess she isn't aware of how long has passed since we took her into our [Menagerie]. Maybe more important, she has horns now. And a tail.

Her tail and horns are both the same color as her skin, too. They look really smooth and soft.

A succubus horns are clearly, well... horns. So are the aurochkin's and the dragon's, though I think the aurochkin's are ivory and the dragons are keratin.. I think

Well, she looks rather cute with horns. Yup.

"Eldric? What is it?" - she leans forth slightly and walks towards us
"Ah, hold on..."

>Grab and rub the horns and tail
>Clear our throat and go to the talk
>Other

>>3924627
>>Grab and rub the horns and tail

>>3924627
>>Grab and rub the horns and tail

>>3924450
>No, let's have it grow naturally... by the way, its already up to 65. It went up a lot over the last few hours.

>>3924627
>Grab and rub the horns and tail

>>3924704
Bit late, try refreshing the thread manually, it seems its updating way too slowly for you on automatic.

>>3924702
>>3924662
>>>Grab and rub the horns and tail

*stare*
"Eldric?" - she looks at us
*sta~are*
"What is it?"
*staaaaa~are*

As our lovely redhead leans in to look at us, we take the chance to reach forth and gently catch her right horn with our left hand, passing our fingers under it and pulling her in,

T-they're super soft!

What... what is with this softness!?

"Eldric!" - she chuckles a little

Eh? They're ticklish?

*rub rub*
*rub more*
*rubbing intensifies*

"Eldric, t-that tick- ah! Wait, don't... stop, pl-ah..."

Her knees are bending and her eyes are growing moist.

I see, so it feels good. Well, I wouldn't mind enjoying this uncanny softness for a bit longer but really, this isn't keratin, bone or ivory. Those can be smooth but they're all hard too, you know? I'm fairly sure they're not flesh and bone, either.

Well, they are definitively covered in skin, though, but we can squeeze them with little resistance at first, yet they're firm underneat.

Oh. Oh! Her tail is curling upwards. Rather than curling up with the tip pointing backwards though, its pointing forth, so the tip is poking on her tummy... that looks interesting too.

*grab*

"Ah!" - she cries out as her knees give up and she makes a little mess on the floor

***

>Tease her about being a slutty pet
>Congratulate her on being a good pet
>Offer to clean her up
>Just clear our throat and talk as if nothing happened
>Other

>>3924713
>Just clear our throat and talk as if nothing happened

It was my bad, was at work and didnt think to hit refresh

>>3924713
>Tease her about being a slutty pet

>>3924713
>>Just clear our throat and talk as if nothing happened

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>>3924896
>>3924810
>>Just clear our throat and talk as if nothing happened
>>3924824
>>Tease her about being a slutty pet

*clears throath*
"Hm. Well, anyway, I wanted to speak with you about changing your attribute values..." - we explain the entire thing to her

After a few minutes, she is calmly sitting on the floor as she talks with us.

Let's not say anything about how sexy and lewd a pet she makes while her legs are still creamy with her own juices... I guess we'd need to raise her Tidiness if we want her, as a pet, to worry about such things.

"I understand." - she says - "As always, I am Eldric's, so you know you don't need to ask for my consent, though?"
"Actually, I'm a little surprised about you being the only pet that hasn't immediately called ma master while being a pet..."
"That's because you told me you didn't like it, remember?"
"That was ...months ago? I meant, in our regular every day life..."
"You know I'd love it if you'd let me call you Master..." - she smiles as she crawls over slowly, her perfect torpedoes just barely dropping under gravity's pull, swaying in a exagerated manner as she makes sure to display them by keeping her arms behind them and push them forth as she crawls

For some reason, the fact that her tail sways like a cat's as she crawls seems extremely seductive.

>Yes, well, it's fine if you do it in private, if you want.
>Yes, well, it's fine when you're a pet, isnt it?
>Well, I like the way you call my name
>Other

***

I'll see you guys tomorrow, hopefully. Miellewds guy, I sent you a message on trillian.

Have a good night

>>3925581
>Yes, well, it's fine if you do it in private, if you want.
Miellewds-guy here.
I responded to your message.

>>3925581
>>3925604
Uh, wait. Lyann likes it when we're direct and forceful with her. so the "if you want" is probably not as good.
Change my vote to :
>Other: I like the way you call my name, so I want you to call me that. I will make you call me 'Master' when I want.
I know, it doesn't seem to be very loving to do that, but you have to remember how Lyann thinks, and what she actually likes.

>>3925581

>Yes, well, it's fine if you do it in private, if you want.

>>3925581
supporting >>3925621

I do want to have children with Kya. So let her be a pet for a while, but tell her that we will release her to become our wife when we marry our other fiancées, and we will have children together.

Oh, since we now saw previously hidden stats on our pets, let’s try checking them with our Ring or Identify to see if there are other aspects we can now perceive.

Miellewds-guy here. Sorry guys, I accidentally gave King an idea for a potential problem for us because I thought he’d already laid the trap.

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>>3926185
>>3925695
>>Yes, well, it's fine if you do it in private, if you want.

"Also... I made Kya inot a permanent pet. Its what she wanted."
"Is that so?" - she lets out a rather small but warm smile as she crawls in a little closer, leaning her breautiful face in and rubbing against our knees - "I'm happy for her, but I am also a little... no, unfathomably jealous?"

She looks up at us with half closed eyes as she seems to be enjoying her current situation

>Why?
>Well, I'm making you my pet too
>Other

>>3927487
>Why?
I want to release Kya so that we can marry her and get kids.

>>3927489
This is a hard choice between indulging Kya’s addiction and making her be responsible.

>>3927487
>>Why?

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>>3927588
>>3927489
>>Why?

"Isn't it obvious?" - she says while pushing in between our legs and resting her face on our left thigh - "Now she can get spoiled by my kind, lovely Eldric all the time... I'd love to be your pet forever, and stay at your beck and call, or walk around on the nude by your side with noone ever finding anything wrong with it, always ready for you to pet, caress or play with... I'd love to be able to just come to your side and curl up around you in front of anyone at any time, and have others think nothing of it other than 'oh, his pets really love him, don't they?' That would be sooo nice!" - she says, and looks up at us
"I- I see..."
"Just... crawling by your side... no, ahead of you at the end of a leash, or behind you if you wanted me to, being free to crawl over and curl up at your feet... ah! To be able to lick your feet in the open, wouldn't that be nice?" - her eyes look a liiiiiittle scary right now

If it was possible, I'm somewhat sure she'd get heart pupils right now

>She's causing our child to threaten a tear on our pants
>T-that sounds a little bit too much
>T-that sounds a little scary, somehow...
>You can do those things in the island, you know?
>Other

>>3927703
>>T-that sounds a little scary, somehow...
I wonder if we told Sykia about this, if she would pick up on the yandere vibes.

>>3927703
>>T-that sounds a little scary, somehow...

>>3927799
>>3927715
>>>T-that sounds a little scary, somehow...
>>3927715
>I wonder if we told Sykia about this, if she would pick up on the yandere vibes.
I think she'd go "I see! She does have some nice ideas." She's not a manga/anime fan, she's just a regular pervert

Ill see you tomorrow, guys, God willing

>>3927703
Oh, and another thing I thought.
>Other: But if you were a pet, would you be able to enjoy those things as much? Sure, you would enjoy it as a pet, but to a pet, obeying their master and showing affection is something obvious and natural. Wouldn’t your enjoyment lose some of its luster now that it is so easily acquired?
Like the difference between enjoying a good meal because you don’t normally get it and it’s something novel, versus being able to have the same thing anytime you want.

>>3927703
>>3927848
supporting this also >>3927853

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>>3927853
>>Other: But if you were a pet, would you be able to enjoy those things as much? Sure, you would enjoy it as a pet, but to a pet, obeying their master and showing affection is something obvious and natural. Wouldn’t your enjoyment lose some of its luster now that it is so easily acquired?

>>3927848
>>3927799
>>3927715
>>>T-that sounds a little scary, somehow..

"What's that? Silly Eldric, there's nothing scary about it. Your Lyann just wants to love you all the time, you know? Furthermore, arguing about the difference in size between two infinite things is pointless in the first place, isn't it? Like arguing which one is bigger, the entire group of every number between 1 and infinity, or just every odd number between one and infinity, isn't it?" - h-her eyes pupils DID actually turn into hearts now! What!? - "They're both infinity anyway, aren't they?"

She starts moving up along our legs and happily buries her face in our crotch for a bit, before looking up at us.

"Yes, if I was allowed to stay just like this forever, I think that's be infinite happiness..."

W-we actually got a chill...!

"Ah, but then I wouldn't be as useful to my cute Eldric, would I? I mean, my cute Eldric needs someone to take care of his finances, least he ends up becoming a pauper just so he can save every orphan, slave or person in need he'd come across..." - she looks like she's absolutely serious, just what kind of selfless existence are we in her eyes, anyway!? - "And, just to think, I get to take care of your daily needs, and check your food, warm up your bed, quality-check the women you bed, watch over the children you'll have (whom obviously will be ultra-cute as well) and make positively, absolutely sure you are surrounded by nothing but people that understand and appreciate your greatness and cuteness... no, there's no way I could be just your pet, is it? I'm glad for Kya, but I am Eldric's slave, property, tool, toy, caretaker, overseer and manager, so every single day, my existence is already so very very very very very..." - she's just mumblind to herself right now

R-right, pets have no filter, do they!? S-so this is what zero-filters Lyann is like... its a little, no, its definitively scary!

>S-send her back into the menagerie right now!
>Try snapping her out of it by ordering her to calm down and listen. We actually have to talk with her, after all.
>Other

>>3928456
>>Try snapping her out of it by ordering her to calm down and listen. We actually have to talk with her, after all.

>>3928456
>which one is bigger, the entire group of every number between 1 and infinity, or just every odd number between one and infinity, isn't it?

By definition it would be the former since for every odd number there would be an infinite number of irrational numbers inbetween the digits.
Or even if interpreting it with only natural numbers, then that's still 2 numbers for every 1.
Hence one infinity is definitely bigger than the other.
Jesus Christ man do you even calculus?

Also this

>>>Try snapping her out of it by ordering her to calm down and listen. We actually have to talk with her, after all.

>>3928574
Don’t try to reason with the Yandere Bomb.

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>>3928574


Cantor was the inventor of set theory, which is a fundamental foundation of modern mathematics. A set is any collection of objects, physical or mathematical, actual or ideal. A particular number, say 4, is associated with all the sets having four elements. For any two of these sets, we can find a 1-to-1 correspondence, or bijection, between the elements of one set and those of the other. The number 4 is called the cardinality of these sets. Generalizing this argument, Cantor treated any two sets as being of the same size, or cardinality, if there is a 1-to-1 correspondence between them.

<-- see picture

But suppose the sets are infinite. As a concrete example, take all the natural numbers, 1, 2, 3, … as one set, and all the even numbers 2, 4, 6, … as the other. By associating any number n in the first set with 2n in the second, we have a perfect 1-to-1 correspondence. By Cantor’s argument, the two sets are the same size. But this is paradoxical, for the set of natural numbers contains all the even numbers and also all the odd ones so, in an intuitive sense, it is larger. The same paradoxical result had been deduced by Galileo some 250 years earlier.

Cantor carried these ideas much further, showing in particular that the set of all the real numbers (or all the points on a line) have a degree of infinity, or cardinality, greater than the counting numbers. He did this using an ingenious approach called the diagonal argument. This raised an issue, called the continuum hypothesis: is there a degree of infinity between these two? This question can not be answered within standard set theory.

I think the likelyhood of the idea of power sets to exist in this world, or the possibility of Lyann being familiar with it, its rather low.

>>3928499
>>3928576
>>>>Try snapping her out of it by ordering her to calm down and listen. We actually have to talk with her, after all.

"Lyann!" - we call out to her
"Yes!?" - she looks at us expectantly

I swear, her pupils are still heart-shaped

"Calm down, please! Listen, I need to talk with you."
"Yes!" - she says, still looking quite ecstatic
"Listen... I want to do some changes on your attributes, and I need you to tell me how it feels, alright?"
"Yes!"

We quickly run into an issue, as anything we do is quickly described as 'great' without exceptions.

Honestly, maybe we should have seen it coming?

>Just do what we think its best
>Release her and try to talk it out that way
>Other

>>3928829
>Other: I need you to tell me how the changes feel and what you are thinking. Not just if the feel good. Tell me exactly what you are thinking and what you are still able to perceive.
And do this with 10 point changes to Sociability, Temperament, empathy.

>>3928926
I can see it going....

S / T / E
0 / 0 / 0 "Eldric"
10 /10/10 "Eldric"
20/20/20 "Eldric"
,,,,
100/100/100 "Eldric. Eldric's bed. Eldric's room"

She's eldric-centric, after all

>>3928935
Then could we make her tell us her yandere thoughts, by having one of our less obedient pets come out and see how she acts around them?

>>3929264
maybe but some friends showed up and im goin out, see you later guys

>>3928829
>>3929264
That could work.
>Other: Check through our Menagerie for the lowest obedience and the lowest Temperment pets and have them come out and order Lyann to tell us her innermost thoughts when she sees someone disrespect Eldric.

>>3928829
>Other: Check through our Menagerie for the lowest obedience and the lowest Temperment pets and have them come out and order Lyann to tell us her innermost thoughts when she sees someone disrespect Eldric.

>>3929713
>>3929300
>>Other: Check through our Menagerie for the lowest obedience and the lowest Temperment pets and have them come out and order Lyann to tell us her innermost thoughts when she sees someone disrespect Eldric.
You're metagaming and looking for a excuse at this point, but it wouldnt really work because oue pets arent rude towards us anyway

>>3929833
>lowest obedience and the lowest Temperment
those would be fleur's children for temperament, followed by the Spelth for obedience, I think

>>3929833
There’s no way to get this result without using someone who isn’t a pet or disposed to being polite. So we would need to have some of the Bastion nobles be rude to Eldric again with Lyann out, and make her tell us what she’s thinking.

>>3928935
Maybe we should do this anyway so that Eldric realizes something is wrong? Even he should realize that this level of love is fanatical, because of both his previous life and the lovey-dovey life of his parents here.

>>3929992
sounds ok to me

>>3929992
>>3930025
>>3929982
I'll reply tomorrow. Good night, guys

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Alright, I have an idea, you guys tell me what you think, since it seems you cant wait to get slightly meta about this.

***

Remembering that we noted Aura´s pregnancy thanks to our ring, we decide it may be a good idea to do the same for Lyann now, though the information that comes forth doesn't reveal any special notice.

Our loving redhead smiles at us with dreamy eyes as we look at her through the ring, but it is when we are about to give up that we notice, during the brief moment our eyesight rests upon her attributes sheet, a few unnoticed tabs seem to stand out.

"Hm?"

Of course, we take the chance to look at her sheet in detail, and with interest, we see that it titled "Dev Data."

***

Other than faith, ethics and morals, what do you think would make for good 'dev data' for this tab?

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Again, I had planned for it to happen later but I guess you guys can't wait until that, so how about it? You'll have to come up with ideas for the extra info, though.

>>3930719
>>3930724
>Faith, Ethics, Morals
Humor/Playfulness
Lateral Thinking (how close they are to thinking of this as a game rather than as the world they inhabit)
Native/Non-Native (to show that they were born in this world or imported from elsewhere)

>>3930719
I thought we were switching to a boost her empathy and Sociability to see how she acted around others longterm plan? that doesn't seem to be very meta.

>>3930741
The problem that King mentioned is that pets wouldn't disrespect us, so we'd have to do it with other people, which might take too long.

And Eldric being suspicious of Lyann at all is apparently too meta.

>>3930752
>Eldric being suspicious of Lyann at all is apparently too meta.

but just last thread had him worried about her low Morality and Ethics before we renamed them.

>>3930768
The problem is that those stats got retconned to be hidden stats instead of more easily seen ones.

>>3930792
darn I thought they just got renamed.

>>3930724
sorry about making you use this early, as for extra info ideas how about physical data like hight, weight and so on.

>>3930824
Oh, physical data makes good sense for Dev Data.

>>3930831
Yes, I agree. Maybe add maximum natural lifespan too. Stuff you want to keep hidden for that person's own mental wellbeing and such, and maybe a "flaws & merits" system, like "extreme obsession: Love" and "extreme obsession: Faith" to explain... pretty much Lyann. And how they are so extreme they're worth a bunch of points and that also earns her a bunch of boons. Anyway I think I'll to... well... think, of a few more stuff to add to that secret tab

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Well, it is quite distracting with our beloved redhead squirming between our legs in delight, making little 'aaah' noises as she happily enjoys her position, but we manage to calm her down enough to have something like a conversation.

Not that it helped that much, yeally. After all, she happily consents to anything we do, so its doubtful if you can even call that a conversation in the first place, but as we discover the 'hidden' tab on her Attributes sheet, we're quite surprised by its contents.

Lyann D' Lumiere
20 years old, shattered human, female

Lifespan
* Natural 82
* Fate 17
* Mana extended 92

Eh? What? I mean, I understand that something such as lifespan would be concealed information, but... what? Alright, 82 seems like a rather sattisfying lifespan for a human, I think, but what's this about fate 17? And mana-extended?

Focusing on each of the phrases causes a small subsection of text to appear under each of them in turn.

I see, so you can basically use a help function like this?

As expected, Natural lifespan is just as it sounds. Her body is meant to expire as she reaches the biological age of 82... well, I think we won't be telling her about this.

I have to agree with the gods common sense on this one. This is the type of information you would want to keep hidden for a rather large number of reasons.

What about Fate Lifespan, though? Focusing on it...

It describes a rather miserable death in a Lapsionan noble's dungeon/basement. Its a rather miserable little tale, but...

>Read it carefully
>Be thankful we altered that fate and keep looking elsewhere
>Other

>>3935129
>Read it carefully
Also, Lapsionia? That's a really long way away from Albion. I think it's nearly halfway across the world.

>>3935129
>>Read it carefully

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>>3935144

From what we read, she was going to be sold off at age 14, before being sent down towards Alquia, never to arrive due to the caravan she was being transported on being attacked by nomads.

They were going to toy with her for several months, before training her as a pleasure girl and shipping her to the swamplan region, where she would be sold off once more and shipped to Lapsiona, where a local noble would buy the human girl as a exotic toy and then quite literally play with her until she died.

Well, that means our chaotic and noisy existence changed her fate... that's a good thing.

Looking down at her, we smile and reach down to pull her up for a kiss.

"Eldric, what is it?" - she asks
"I'm just glad I bought you when I did."
"Me too!" - she replies, and kisses us happily

Uhmm... well, there's more.

Faith MAX
Morals 01
Ethics 01

Eh...? Isn't that weird? Our lovely Lyann is kind and polite to everyone, isn't she?

Focusing a little on each tab... it turns out she's a light cultist...

So, she's one of those who considers our family to be messengers of the divine...?

>Well, she's not wrong. (Ignore it)
>Talk with her about it (suggestions?)
>Other

>>3935228
>Talk with her about it (suggestions?)
Does she revere us as messengers, and so the gods are still above us? Or does she revere us as divine ourselves, and infallible? What about those of other faiths?

And as a person from our world, Cult has a lot of negative connotations, that we should check into.

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>>3935236
A cult is, by definition, just a group of believers following a non-mainstream religion. Our modern culture gives it the dark twist because of how many nutjobs there are, sadly.

***

She seems quite confused when we talk woth her about 'divine infallibility'. To begin with, this world's gods are not commonly thought of as infallible, at all.

They're more like greek or roman gods, full of flaws and getting themselves and mortals into all sorts of trouble, so they are more like really powerful individuals.

...that's certainly a lot of pressure off our shoulders, now...

>Lets convince her not to worship us
>Lets just put that aside and worry about her abbyssmally low ethics and morals
>Other

>>3935252
>Other
Let's look closely at the three stats; what advantage does MAX Faith give her, and get the full description of these attributes.

Also, ask her: "If I am a divine messenger, then what should happen to those that don't heed my message? Should listeners be punished if they misinterpret my message?"

>>3935252
supporting >>3935254

>>3935252
>A cult is, by definition, just a group of believers following a non-mainstream religion. Our modern culture gives it the dark twist because of how many nutjobs there are, sadly.
By definition, yeah. But seeing as how Eldric is a product of our world, when he hears Cult, he should get mental images of Jonestown, Waco, and Aum Shinrikyo, and be super paranoid about his message getting taken to those extremes.

Because we never really vetted or investigated the Light Cult; we just assumed that since we're a Lightbringer, and we're the ones being worshipped, everything should be okay. But we don't have direct control over the cult, nor do we even know what they do or what they think. So we should be suspicious.

>>3935252
Other questions to ask: What does the cult do? What do you do for the cult? Are cult members in communication with each other, and do you have a way to identify each other?
How does the cult treat others and outsiders, and those that do not heed or respect the message or messenger?

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>>3935254
>Also, ask her: "If I am a divine messenger, then what should happen to those that don't heed my message? Should listeners be punished if they misinterpret my message?"

Faith MAX
Divine Quest available! Succeeding in a divine quest allows ascension to godhood. Failure turns the unit into a Prophet which can be sacrificed to fund a new religion (choose two tenets of Faith), enhance a religion (choose a new, extra tenet of faith to add to an existing religion), or reform a religion (changing a tenet of faith for another)

A successful Ascension turns the city into a Holy City and allows for the foundation of a new religion. Basic tenets are as follow:

Ancestor Worship * +1 Culture/turn from shrines
Dance of the Aurora * +1 Faith/turn on city per adjacent Tundra hex
Desert Folklore * +1 Faith/turn on city per adjacent desert hexes, including oasis and Flood Plains
Earth Mother * +1 Faith/turn per Dungeon in the city
Faith Healers * +30 hp healed per turn on every friendly unit in the city or adjacent hexes
Fertility Rites * +5% Population Growth per year on city
God of Craftsmen * 10% cost reduction when using Craft skills within the city
God of the Open Sky * +1 Culture/turn per pasture or plain hex adjacent to the city
God of the Sea * +10% Drops on all dungeons, if city is adjacent to a sea hex
God of War * +50% damage dealt by friendly units when fighting within 4 hexes of the Holy City
Goddess of Festivals * +1 Culture and Faith/turn per yearly festival in the Holy City
Goddess of Love * No population uprising in the Holy City. No plagues in Holy City.
Goddess of Protection * 30% increase in damage dealt by ranged units trained in the Holy City
Goddess of the Hunt * +10% drop rate on dungeons per adjacent forest hex
God King * Holy City produces +1 Faith, Gold and Science/turn per city following the same faith.
Messenger of the Gods * +2 science/turn per city connected to holy city through roads.
Monument of the Gods * 15% cost reduction on Craft skills when related to religious buildings or tools
One with Nature * +1 Faith/turn per hex with Natural Wonder
Oral Tradition * +1 culture/turn on each city following this religion
Religious Idols * +1 Culture and Gold/turn for each trade route in the Holy City
Holy War * Faith generated in this city applies +15% extra theological pressure on nearby cities.
Sacred Water * +1 Faith/turn per river hex controlled by Holy City
Stone Circles * +1 Faith/turn per temple within Holy City
Sun God * +10% drops on dungeons for each desert, sea and plains hex controlled by the Holy City
Tears of the Gods * +2 Faith/turn per prophet born within the Holy City

Uh... it looks like more grand-strategy-related stuff, similar to national management screens.

Currently Available Divine Quests:
Die 1000 times (Currently 1/1000)
Birth 1000 children (Currently 0/100)
Create 100 trade routes (Currently 2/100)
Win 100 officially declared wars (Currently 0/100)...

>>3935309
Now I'm miffed. We don't get to become gods, because our Faith isn't MAX.

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>>3935309

...aren't these way too hard

Change the terrain type of 10 non-adjacent hexes (Currently 0/10)
Fund 100 cities and raise their population to 1000 or more (Currently 0/10)
Destroy 1000 shrines of opposing religions (Current 0/1000)
Reach level 1000 in at least 7 jobs (Currently 1/7)
Spend 10000 days in the nude as a public figure (Current 0/10000)
Have 10000 different sex partners within a year (Current 7/10000)
Create 100 new races (Currently 0/100)

...eh... some of those look more like harrasing than anything else, and some are rather indecent...?

Seriously, who comes up with these.

"Eldric, what is it?" - she smiles at us

>Talk about her religious beliefs
>Other

>>3935318
>Talk about her religious beliefs
This is to investigate the Cult, right? We need to find out what they believe, how they operate, and figure out how their beliefs could be twisted by someone with 1 Ethics and 1 Morals to hurt people.

>>3935318
>Spend 10000 days in the nude as a public figure (Current 0/10000)
>Have 10000 different sex partners within a year (Current 7/10000)
>Create 100 new races (Currently 0/100)
Obviously the dev into hentai added this while no one else was looking.

>>3935318
>>Talk about her religious beliefs

>>3935323
>Obviously the dev into hentai added this while no one else was looking.
The first one is more of a joke than anything else, though.

Wait, whats the problem with the last one? I very seriously typed it in thinking that a god of life should be able to do such a thing.

>>3935334
>>3935321
>>Talk about her religious beliefs

"Hm? You are my religious beliefs, though?" - she speaks calmly and perfectly serious

Right, this is 'unfiltered Lyann', so we can assume she's being quite literal and honest, right?

"What does that mean?" - we ask her
"It means that I love you." - ah, the heart pupils are back
"Why?"
"Because I love you." - she says happily - "My Eldric is wonderful. He's nice, warm and caring. I wish everyone loved Eldric. Wouldn't it be a happy world?"
"Ah... alright?"

>Ask about rituals involving her religion
>Ask about basic principles of her religion
>Other

>>3935365
>Ask about basic principles of her religion
We also need to ask about rituals, too. But first, the principles.

>>3935365
>>Ask about basic principles of her religion

>>3935409
>>3935382
>>3935382
>>Ask about basic principles of her religion


Alrighty, but im goin out for a couploe of hours, I'll resume typing when i am back

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"We are grateful to the wardens of the world, and are to assist and protect them as a matter of fact." - she says while leaning against us and happily sniffing our shirt - "It seems obvious, doesn't it? Your family really -is- in charge of protecting every single one of us, so shouldn't we help you in any way we can?"
"Well..."
"Anything less is not just self destructive, but downright idiotic." - she leans back and looks at us with a very casual and relaxed mood

Uh... well, I guess she's right? It never did made sense that, when the world is at stake, merchants would charge the chosen one and we were thrown out and taxed with saving the world after being given a sword and a few coins in most games.

This isn't a game, even if it uses a similar system...

>I guess it's alright?
>I wish she felt free to live her own life
>Other

***

I'll see you tomorrow, guys

>>3935602
>Other
"What about other people who are not cultists? Do you force them to help out, to join your cult? What do you do about people that either cannot or choose not to hear and obey the divine message?"

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>>3935607
>"What about other people who are not cultists? Do you force them to help out, to join your cult? What do you do about people that either cannot or choose not to hear and obey the divine message?"

"Ah!" - she says suddenly, as if we had surprised her - "There's that way too!?"
"No!" - we hurry to reply
"Fuu... well, current doctrine says you can't force someonme to do good things, but, if you said otherwise..."
"Don't."
"But wouldn't it be for everyone's own sake?"
"Don't."
"...alright."

We sigh in relief and start caressing her gorgeous face.

She cooes in happiness.

Alright, looks like the cult isn't as dangerous as we feared, but aren't these extremely low Morals and Ethics wrong somehow? I mean, our Lyann is quite lovely, you know?

>Just bump them up
>Question her about it
>Other

>>3936218
>Question her about it
Put her through the Voight-Kampff test.

>>3936218
>>Question her about it

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>>3936384
>>3936229
>>Question her about it

"Love... " - we start while caressing her horns really, really softly - "What do you think of the local laws?"
"I don't know them. I don't care." - she says happily - "I just need to do whatever is best for my Eldric."
"I see..."

That is... rather scary.

>How to talk about it with her (suggestions)
>Please care!
>Other

>>3936449
>How to talk about it with her (suggestions)
"Okay, what laws do you follow? When you say "whatever is best for Eldric", what standard do you use? How much force do you use, what do you do to people that don't listen to me or work against me, and are therefore an obstacle?"

>>3936449
supporting >>3936466

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>>3936486
>>3936466
>>How to talk about it with her (suggestions)

"Well, which laws do you follow?" - we ask her
"Whatever you agree with." - she replies calmly
"And how do you decide what is best for me?"
"Hm... things that keep you healthy, things that make you happy. In that order." - she says seriously - "I mean, you didn't like patry fruit when you were little, but I made sure you ate it, didin't I? That's because patry fruit is good for you."

Eh, were we ever picky about our food...? I genuinely don't remember... ah, there was this time she kiss-fed us some dessert. Is that what she's talking about.

Well, it was a bit too sweet, but if she's holding it between her lips, we're not going to pass on it... yeah, that's definitively what she is talking about.

She rises slightly on her knees and pushes herself unto us with a smile, gently wrapping her arms around us just so she can squeeze herself against us that lilttle bit harder.

"Eldric, are you done playing with my attributes now? Do we have some time?" - she asks between kisses
"Ah... just a moment... hn... what about... what about people that were in my way?"
"Silly Eldric." - she says with heart-shaped pupils - "There's nobody who'd do that."
"But there have to be...?"
"Those are bugs and vermin." - she replies and kisses us again
"B-bugs..."
"You are trying to save them, so why should you worry about those who don't want to be saved? Shouldnt we just squeeze them so you can save even more people, instead?"

She is... perfectly serious, isn't she?

>C-crank morals and ethics to MAX, now now nao!
>Keep her as a pet so she can't hurt anyone outside our line of sight
>Well... she is... useful like this
>Other

>>3936561
>C-crank morals and ethics to MAX, now now nao!
Then test her again! See if she's still willing to kill or maim people just because they get in our way or disrespect us.

>>3936561
>>C-crank morals and ethics to MAX, now now nao!

>>3936757
>>3936701
>>C-crank morals and ethics to MAX, now now nao!

"A-alright, I'm raising your morals and ethics, alright?"
"Of course."

Well, we raise them to...

>65
>Max
>Other?

>>3936860
>65

>>3936860
>65

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>>3936916
>>3936879
>>65

"Alright, how does this fe-" - we interrupt ourselves. Of course she will answer 'great' again, so we need to rephrase things or be as specific as we can be - "What do you think of people who disagrees with me?"
"They're hurting themselves." - she replies with a sigh
"Is that all?"
"Well, one of our tenets is no proselytizin g, so..."
"Eh? I didn't know that."
"You do all our proselytizing for us, love." - she says with the proudest smile we've ever seen in her

She happily rests her face against our shoulder and hugs us a little bit tighter

"You are not going to hurt anyone, are you?"
"Do you want me to?" - she asks while looking at us with a somewhat dangerous glint in her eyes
"No..."
"That's okay then, isn't it?"

>Yes, that's alright. (65 is fine)
>Uhmm... you would have said yes if I asked you to, wouldn't you? (Raise it to,,,?)
>Other

>>3936962
>Uhmm... you would have said yes if I asked you to, wouldn't you? (Raise it to,,,?)
Raise it to MAX!
Should we reduce her Faith? Her Faith seems to be what pushes her to be a yandere timebomb, while the Ethic and Moral are what keep her from acting on those impulses.

Having her be able to ascend as a god might be useful in the future.

>>3936969
>Ethic and Moral are what keep her from acting on those impulses.
Not at all. Its her love MAX, just because she doesnt wants to bother or worry Eldric

Well, Ethics Max forces a hard cap of 15 on Orgy, Lust and Anal... with an asterisk? it does however gives a 33% extra damage against Field Monsters. The asterisk points out that group sex is an important part of Voltronite faith, and so followers of that religion are exempted of the cap on orgy.

Morals Max forces a hard cap of 15 on Sadism and Domination, but it also opens the Diplomancer job, which can do a job similar to that of the [Hunter], unlocking a [Diplomacy] skill that allows one to convince enemies of surrendering.

>>3937035
Oh, are these things that showed up when we tried to MAX out Ethics and Morals?
Then let's just raise Ethics and Morals to 95 each, so that we don't have to worry about the limitations that come with them.

I may be useful to have a Diplomancer in the future, on a different pet.

And so once the Ethics and Morals are raised again, let's ask Lyann if she still feels like she'll hurt people just because they disrespect us, and if she would go behind our back to punish the heretics, infidels, and apostates.

>>3936962
supporting >>3937065

can i get a thread description?

>>3937153
“Playing with sliders and yandere timebombs”

Hey King, how about addictions and phobias as another hidden thing on the dev tab?
Maybe see if Kya is addicted to the feeling of pleasure from being a pet.

>>3937160
>Hey King, how about addictions and phobias as another hidden thing on the dev tab?
I considered it. I even thought about fetishes and taboos, but decided it wasn´t really a good idea because you guys would want to know that info for every girl, and I don't even think they know that many different things either, anyway

But if you feel like suggesting stuff for each girl, go ahead

Anyway, I was originally going to copy the stat system for Princess Maker 2 (if you haven't played it, I recommend it. Super old game), but then decided against it.

For secret stats, I had planned

Maximum lifespan
Faith (religion should be personal so making it a hidden stat seems fine to me)
Moral
Ethics

And then was planning on adding other stuff that probably just a dev would need, like, secret mechanic stuff. Maybe a luck value making a secret, base % chance for good or bad events, or maybe a base % for critical hits

I did consider fetishes and phobias, but decided against those in the end

If you guys have suggestions, let me know. Im going to bed for tonight, see you tomorrow, God willing

Oh, right. How about adding her body measurements to the secret tab?

Lyann is 172cm tall, with B99/W58/H90 right now.

>>3937762
And sorry, I don't do fantasy measurement units (aka inches)

>>3937762
Body measurements is good.
Maybe fertility? A secret luck value for bonuses to critical hit chances and loot drops.

>>3937921
People don't drop loot. Though if you die in a dungeon, your body is quickly absorbed and your belongings are added to that dungeon's loot tables.

And the reason the measurements are in the hidden tab is because you can modify them here.

Fertility... eh, seems more like a on/off slider, I think.

Totally unrelated, but since I started selling my mtg cards, i've been interested in playing again but can't find attractive looking card sleeves. The local store only sells black ones, and the online stores I checked all seem to be out of stock. Anyone has any suggestions on that?

>>3938014
>People don't drop loot
Oh no, it's not chances of the person dropping loot when they die, it's the chance of getting good loot when they defeat a monster.

>>3938015
Those are monster-side.
But you can get minor special abilities every few characters, remember? In fact Lyann is specced that way, she has like octuple drop rates and quadruple exp, plus a hugely increased drop chance of rare drops.

That's why she can farm enough for our entire wasteful budget on her own and proudly calls herself our wallet. Its not just because she also doubles as our inventory.

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Anyway, No suggestions towards more hidden stats or modifying anything? We'll ccontinue then, I guess.

***

"Hmm... I wish there wasn't such people, but what can you do about another person's heart." - she says
"Is that so?"
"I mean, they're just hurting themselves, aren't they? Ah, but they are also hurting those around them, so I wonder if something shouldn't be done about them..." - she seems to be doing some rather dangerous mental gymnastics - "I mean, its for everyone's wellbeing."
"No, no, its alright if you just..."

>Leave them alone
>Act within the rule of law
>Other

...you know?"

>>3939709
>Other: Leave them alone unless actual physical or mental harm is imminent. Potential or indirect harm is not grounds for violating the law. If she wishes to act then she must first get permission from Eldric.

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>>3939926

"Fuuu..." - as usual, her complains are rather melodious - "...alright."

She finally seems to have calmed down somewhat. At least on that topic.

"Ah, what else would my Eldric want to change about his Lyann?" - she asks while huggin us gently
"Come think about it..."

As a shattered, we can actually purchase traits and abilities from other races for her. or even change her race entirely.

Looking at the menu of available options... yeah, she has more than enough levels to purchase a change to pretty much any race, and almost any specific race traits, too.

With over a thousand levels available, let's see...

Race (Civilized) * Level cost
Beastkin * 5
Centaur (Woodland) * 10
Dwarf (Gold) * 15
Dward (Mountain) * 5
Elf (Forest, Mountain, Plains, Sea) * 5
Elf (Ash, Snow) * 10
Halfling (Lake) * 5
Halfling (Sea) * 10
Faery (Honey) * 10
Faery (Jungle) * 10
Majin * 5
Salamander * 20
Succubus * 20
Vampire * 20

Hmm... it seems the civilized races includes only those races who actually own property somewhere. That means we've helped expand this list, right? That feels rather nice.

The (Monstrous) list... includes pretty much every single living creature of size small or larger.

Taking a look... yeah, dragons. harpy, ifrit, faery (Thorn), and even homarid are all available, but perhaps more importantly, individual traits are available as well.

For example, [Draconic Sorcery], which includes firebreath and plenty of strong AoE attacks, or even specific physical traits like a succubus nacre teeth... eh? Succubus teeth aren't made of the same enamel as human teeth? Furthermore, it seems like they can replace and regrow them, similarly to sharks or crocodiles...

We had to go into [Succubus Traits] -> [Digestive System] -> [Nacre Teeth]

Why did we go into a succubus digestive system, specifically? ...uh... we weren't... alright, we were looking into their ability to 'absorb energy' through sex. So sue me.

Still, so this is why despite living in extremely primitive conditions in the wild, they had perfectly healthy teeth. I thought it was just a side effect of this world's [System] just arbitrarily deciding that a succubus with bad teeth would be 'out', but they actually have naturally bright white, quickly replacing teeth.

Wait, isn't nacre actually softer than enamel? Well, I wonder if it is easier or faster to regrow. Easier in energy terms, I mean. Clams make pearls with that stuff, so instead of having a moving band of teeth like sharks, they just regrow them 'on the spot' like how pearls are made on the innersurface of the clam's shell... well, I guess it has some evolutive advantages. Im not a biologist,

Anyway, perhaps...

>Let's think about changing her race.
>Let's think about giving her specific racial traits
>Let's evolve her
>Other

btw despite Eldric's default horny thoughts, no, succubus don't live off cum or anything like that. They're onnicores with a preference for meat. Their digestive system IS however much more efficient than a human's, though, due to lack of resources, which much like a lion's, means they normally have to rest a fair bit of the dar, though when resources are more abundant their daily activity cycle is closer to a standard human or can surpass it in activity.

Dawn's special 'energy absorbing' is a result of her father's experiments into hibridizing a vampire with a succubus.

Just mentioning it.

>>3941041
>Let's think about giving her specific racial traits
I want to breed Lyann so that we have at least one Shattered Pet as another Breeder. Having a Pet that can produce more Pets that can evolve into almost anything we want is a very tempting option.

Once we inform Okaba and Asmund about the Hidden Stats for Ethics and Morals, should we suggest a new legal code where criminals can have their time as a Slave reduced if they agree to become a Pet and have Ethics and Morals increased to 50, or maybe to MAX?
Or should this information be kept hidden as a state secret?

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>>3941252
To be honest with you, Okaba already knows, and was going to tell Eldric in their next conversation, but a player was so pushy it ended up getting found out now so the story could move forth.

As for Asmund, he -really- hates messing with other people's options. He's perfectly fine with punishing criminals for picking the wrong options, but would never mess with people's important 'settings' like that. Okaba may have a different impression though.

Its kind of backwards because when it comes to government, Okaba is more worried about doing progress 'the right way' so that everyone can benefit, or at the very least, noone gets hurt, while Asmund believes more in progress with long-term goals and doesn't really minds hurting some people now, in exchange for everyone benefitting 1-2 generations down the road.

If we gave them tech to build a dam as an electric power plant, Okaba would probably consider the communities in the chosen valleyl, their traditions, burial sites, historical sites, etc and probably end up building in a less-than-ideal spot, while Asmund would just relocate everyone and build in the best possible spot, not giving a fuck about "but my family is buried underground" and going straight to "and now they're buried underwater."

But when it comes to freedom at the personal level, Asmund is a lot more inflexible than Okaba. Okaba would be fine with raising someone's ethics and morals against their will in order to quickly and effectively reform a criminal, for example, then send him/her back into the general population or even give him/her a job. He's a lot more authoritarian in that sense.

Asmund would be completely against it. If that person's choices end in slavery or even the gallows, he'll be okay with it.

Anyway, should we breed Lyann first to get a 'pure' shattered in our [Menagerie] and then buy our redhead some traits? Whom do you wanna breed her with?

>>3941386
Stella, because we have to Release Stella soon.
I still want to Release Kya at some point, because her reactions are fun.

>>3941402
>Stella, because we have to Release Stella soon.
Sure? All we're really doing is using her data anyway. She won't even notice if we don't specifically tell her

>I still want to Release Kya at some point, because her reactions are fun.
Obviously

Uhmm... I think I had a nice pic of a delicious brown redhead I had been saving for a Stella + Lyann pet, but can't remember what I saved it as (name-wise, I mean)

Anyone has any other suggestions?

>>3941422
I don't think so.

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Good God! This pic was so hard to find, and then I realized we're probably using Lyann's [Shattered] as a base anyway so rather than fluffy ears, the pic needs horns and tail anyway.

Well, it was a bunch of work finding it anyway so here.

>>3941459
Oh, should we name the new Pet Estrella? Sounds like a nice name.

>>3941466
Sure, though its just a spanish version of Stella, though, just meaning Star

>>3941486
Sounds good for a daughter of Stella.

Now that I think about it, have we ever breed a pet while the pet in question is outside the menagerie? Do you think 'something' should happen, however briefly, or just straight have the 'egg' spawn in the menagerie?

Uhmm... it seems like it would be default just spawn directly in the menagerie, I think. Unless now that we have the new pet-related job, it gave us the option of having the pet go through a brief 'pregnancy' while we edit and/or pick traits for the new pet.

>>3941496
I think that it should just create an egg in the Menagerie.

Maybe that's a hidden dev stat?
Pregnancy_Rate_Default=9months
Pregnancy_Rate_AsPet=0
And we could change the AsPet rate as we wanted. We probably can't change the Cooldown timer, though.

>>3941502
Uhmm... maybe adding a time lenght to the pregnancy could give a bonus to the pet spawn? After all its trading instant speed for a bonus.

Should be something meaningful, like 1 month = 5% bonus to all stats at level 1, or maybe 2% extra stat gain upon level up, or 2% extra exp gain, since again, its trading instant speed for the bonuses.

Or if you think the mods would throw a sissy fit if we seem to be going into preggo fetish territory, maybe just add said time to the egg hatch time? I am somewhat tempted to add a # of steps required for hatching, like in pokemon.

>>3941506
I think bonuses to initial stats makes more sense than permanent bonuses.

Though maybe Natural vs Menagerie carries with it different requirements and bonuses? Like, a natural dragon pregnancy requires lots of metals, and the ores that are eaten during the formation of the egg determine the bonuses that the baby dragon will have.
All of that is removed in the Menagerie baby, but in exchange, there's the ability to choose the traits that the baby will have, and if we increase the timer, the starting stats of the baby.

Anyway, which racial traits do you want to buy for Lyann?

Special pseudo magical traits, like a firebreath or charming pheromones, or merely physical traits like a prehensile tail or actually combat-usable horns?

Or going lewd maybe explore the succubus/available traits and realize that hecate-grade succubus actually have tongue-like muscles (honestly, its tongues) in holes other than 'traditional' holes?

>>3941552
For now, charming pheromones, Hecate tongues, and Dragon and Fairy magic.

>>3941559
Uhm... faery magic is mostly food rekated, though, with the exception of size change, IIRC let me check...

Change Size
Create Harvest Route
Find Resource Node
Harvest Resource Node

As it turns out, the faery nation has its own mechanics, which I guess makes sense as they were not going into dungeons for their resources.

Reading into each of their descriptions...

Change Size: Can shift back and forth between tiny and medium-sized. While tiny sized, resource consumption is 1/100th of normal, but attributes are all diminished to 1/10th of normal,
This ability can be used once a month.

Create Harvest Route: Increased harvest speed at chosen node, and movement speed between the chosen node and your settlement. Bonuses increase as skill levels up.

Find Resource Node: Shows available resource nodes on the map. Node rarity and size increase as skill levels up.

Harvest Resource Node: Allows for resource collection from a Resource Node connected to your settlement through a Harvest Route

The tongues thing is pretty much exactly what you think it is.

Now, for some meta, I was thinking that a part of the succubus hyper efficient digestive system means they barely have any leftover waste because.. just think about it. Or we could just say succubus don't poop, I guess? Their digestive system is just that good? I am quite open to suggestions on this.

Could also just go with 'it doesn't matters because her anal plug constantly casts 'cleanse' on her anyway"

>>3941588
Maybe Succubus digestive system is partially magic, to allow for no waste products? I mean, we have dragons and slimes, so maybe semi-magical stomachs can be a thing?

>>3941600
I feel dumb for forgetting about that. To begin with, I did mention that their flying is 1/2 magical, so sure, let's go with that.

Anyone has anything to say against this? Or suggestions about it?

>>3941619
Alright so let's see...
Dragon Magic
Faery Magic
Succubus digestive system
Increased Milk Production (aurochkin level?)

Her measurements right now are Height 172, B 99/W 58/H 60. Sorry I don't like inches, but I'm sure you can google-convert them into inches right away if you want.
Anyway, want to change anything about her measurements? Did we get everything?

>>3942108
>Increased Milk Production
If we can, also grab Increased Milk Quality. We've got some bonuses from Aurochkin milk, so we could see if we can get the same from Lyann.

>measurements
No changes to her measurements for now.

>>3942108
Anything nice from the Thorn Faeries, like flower-like perfume pheromones?
Faery and Succubus aphrodisiac pheromones?

>>3942233
Sure, from the maneater plant side, there should be alluring perfume, and from the plant side in general, photosyntesis, hybernation and alternative means of reproduction like spores and seeds should be available.

>>3942351
Having human children born from seeds and spores sounds interesting, but weird.

Flower perfumes and Succubus pheromones sound like nice things to grab, so let’s get those.

>>3942697
>Having human children born from seeds and spores sounds interesting, but weird.
I know, but it was an option so I had to mention it and just hope you wouldn't pick it.

No photosyntesis, btw? I was even reading about how -exactly- it works and trying to decide if it would be better to have her use her skin or hair for it since plants use their leaves rather than the trunk or branches, so probably hair.

Was thinking in which parts would do what, like:

Succubus digestive system: Improves energy absorption by 30%
Photosyntesis: Adds a small, passive energy absorption while under sun light
Pheromonoes (Succubus): Passively raises the lust attribute of surrounding creatures by +30
Pheromonoes (Plant Faery): Raises charm by +30
Enhanced Milk Production: Increase energy demand by 20%
Enhanced Milk Quality: Increase energy demand by 20%

So was thinking about what her metabolism would be like after all that, and how she's getting better energy absorption and a small passive absorption from the photosyntesis, yet the increased energy requirements with the increased quantity and quality of milk production as well as the enhanced pheromones, so she would probably be sliightly sleepy most of the time, and probably have a situation where she's probably hungry often despite her increased energy absorption/efficiency...
...stuff like that

Anyway, was considering that rather than just buying anything from anyone, we should be able to buy stuff from pets we already have. which would also motivate us to get new and different pets.

And was thinking about having a 'pop up' show up offering some stuff that we unlocked the right to purchase by purchasing some basic traits from other monsters.

For example, we're buying photosyntesis and perfume from the faery plants, so was thinking on what other traits should become available.

"What positive traits do plants have?" And then I thought, hybernation so they can skip on winter, and sap instead of blood which would sloooow down bleeding effects and poisons, or in game terms, give immunity to those things.

Maybe add the ability to buy branch-like (deer-like?) horns as well?

And speaking of horns, the succubus' horns are sensitive but they are also a lot more solid, being made from ivory (hardened hair) so they are usable as natural weapons.

And speaking of succubus and faeries, flying?

Stuff like that. You guys don't have any requests or suggestions? I'll just assume we're not modifying anything else and move on, then?

>>3942771
I was concerned that with photosynthesis, Lyann's hair or skin color would change, that's why I didn't want to get it.

As for succubus and faerie flight, wouldn't that make wings grow on Lyann? While it's not bad, it is a concern.

What about getting Dragon Digestive System?
So that Lyann could eat metals for nourishment as well.
Or is there only 1 "slot" per body system?
What about nervous systems? Is there one that has enhanced speed or something?

Maybe get natural water-breathing from the Crabs?
Oh, what about the ability to auto-resurrect that the undead have?

>>3942796
>I was concerned that with photosynthesis, Lyann's hair or skin color would change, that's why I didn't want to get it.

Ah that's fair. I was thinking in changing her hair color from wine red to super bright radioactive-neon red... I don't really have any other way to describe it, just... red flower red, I guess?

Yes, she'd grow wings. But faeries usually grow wings when they fly and they dissapear the rest of the time, so like that. Faeries can't fly in normal size, though, only when they're tiny.

A dragon-like digestive system would make her a true omnivore since she'd be able to eat rocks. Would probably lose some of her sense of taste, though.

Well, is not like there's slots, but having more than 1 digestive system wouldnt work, would it? I think I'd randomly roll traits and flaws from each and come up with something like that.

Hmm... nervoys systems... IIRC animal nervous systems transmit info at the speed of sound, while electronic information is transmitted at the speed of light. I got that from some research I did for a sci fi novel I want to write, for reference about the advantages of cybernetics. Neurons are electrical-chemical transmitters, so if we could replace them with purely electronic cells, speed should increase by huge leaps and bounds as our nervous systems moves from the speed of sound towards the speed of light. I can't really think of any living being that has a purely electrical nervoys system without chemical bits on it, though... uhmm... maybe our constructs? Crystal, maybe?

Ya, I guess that if we changed her nervoys system or just her neurons from squishy biological cells towards a crystal matrix it should improve her reaction time enormously, but wouldnt it actually be rather sad to live alone in a world of milliseconds while everyone else lives in a world of seconds? Just talking to someone else would feel like an eternity

Crabs' breathing is a mess. They can breather above and under water but need to stay wet so they're bound to stay near water. Uhmm Lyra isn't really amphibious either since she basically takes the underwater with her (remember her 'Drowning Aura')

Maybe the ability to reroute oxygen within her body the way whales do, focusing oxygen in vital systems and setting others in stand-by to stay under water for extended periods of time... or we can just say Krabby is truly amphibious because magic and go with that.

The undead can only auto ressurrect as long as they are in a party, though. It also takes 5 rounds, so if you kill one when its outside a party or manage to kill everyone in the party at the same time, they truly die and stay dead. Honestly the pet system is better in that sense.

Oh, maybe if we capture a phoenix so we can copy its resurrection ability?

>>3942815
Oh, going back to how Asmund is Sanctity of Personal Liberty/But Lives are Unimportant for the Greater Good, versus Okaba's Personal Freedoms are Unimportant for the Greater Good/People's Lives Matter More than People's Freedoms:
Would Asmund have anything against us making changes to the dev stats (Ethics, Morals, Obedience) of that vampire criminal we asked him to give us? He wanted us to torture and execute her, so would he consider her already "dead" (for an undead) in terms of personal freedoms?

>>3942835
He'd be fine with killing her, as it is the results of her choices, but changing her personality would rub him the wrong way since its basically changing her character, and thus denying the importance of her choices. Well thats how it would be if it was a normal person, but with a condemned criminal, I think I'd need to think about it and therefore he would need to think about it too

After all, an execution is absolute violence, used by the state.
Would changing someone's personality be diffferent from killing them? And so on...

Im goin to bed, see you tomorrow guys

>>3942841
Okay, good night.

And that question, if personality death is the equivalent of physical death, was explored in The Demolished Man, a short novel, and in Babylon 5, the TV series.

Both do take the stance that personality death of a condemned criminal is the equivalent of execution by the State, but with the hope that by creating a new personality, that a useful citizen can be created instead of just removing a danger to society.

Well, let's go with it being akin to killing someone and then ending with someone new, then.

Anyway...

***

We caress our beloved redhead's shapely back, and kiss her gently while we tease her, telling her about the naughty changes we're making on her body.

"...an't help for you to taste my child with a new tongue. But you've always liked the taste, haven't you?" - we enjoy seeing her blush a little as we tell her
"Yes. Your Lyann has always loved the taste of Eldric's child." - she admits happily

The destructive power of that lustful smile is quite amazing!? So this is the power of 'unfiltered Lyann mode'? Even though she's still blushing a little bit, she's still completely straightforward!

"I'm looking forward to it." - she says with a smile, perfectly serious - "I'm sure it will be glorious to be able to kiss you up here and down there at the same time. Ah, just thinking about it is..." - she shivers in anticipation
"A-alright..."


[The creation of a new template with the chosen changes will cost a total of 28,000 experience points. Confirm Y/N?]

Wait, that's slightly different than what we expected. As usual, thankfully, focusing on the prompt opens up a small help window.

[[Shattered] is a special race that allows for the purchase of other races or racial traits with an exp cost. The new race and/or racial traits will be saved as a [Template] which then becomes available through the [Shattered] racial ability. A [Shattered] unit can possess up to 4 different templates, uncluding its [Default], and switch between them with an MP cost]

Oooh, so [Shattered] is not so much a base for changes, as it is a changeling-like race, then? In fact looking at its abilities, now we see...

[Shattered]
Template 1 (unnamed)
Template 2 (empty)
Template 3 (empty)
Template 4 (empty)

I see, I get it. Let's say her current form is Template 1 (unnamed). We are now assigning traits to a new template, rather than permanently changing her base form. Or looking at it differently, she can have up to four different base forms?

Anyway, that decreases the drama quite a bit... well, we could assemble several different forms for her to switch between as needed. Of course, the default use for this skill is probably something like “Aquatic Mode”, “Flight Mode”, “Magic Caster Mode” and “Default”, though.

Anyway, let's confirm and...

[Template 2 (unnamed) has been created]

Lyann blinks, feeling a tiny drain in her total exp as barely noticeable.

1/2

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>>3943630

“Nothing happened?” - she asks
“Hold on...” - we reply, and as her master/owner, we navigate through her skill menu and choose “template 2 (unnamed) 20MP”.

Right away, there's a brief, warm light, and as it fades, we can tell that her hair has gone from wine red to neon red. Her breasts look slightly wider? Well, maybe they just rest a little heavier on her chest... looking at her biometrics, they're the same flawless 99cm they were before, so perhaps we're just imagining things?

“O-oh!” - she cries out all of a sudden - “I-i can... o-oh!”

She seems somewhat distressed for some reason, blushing bright red as she clings to us but turns away.

“What is it?”
“Ah... E-eldric... c-can we change my buttplug... I... I can actually taste it not and... its metal, so...” - she has a bright red full body blush as she says so

Hn. I guess that means it worked, but... right, the taste of metal isn't exactly anybody's favorite flavour...

Its not like we have other flavours...

>(Gentle) It's not like we made them thinking about taste... - lets remove it -
>(Dominating) But I like knowing my Lyann's bottom is full at all times - leave it there -
>Other

>>3943635
>(Gentle) It's not like we made them thinking about taste... - lets remove it -
And it's so rare for Lyann to actually tell us what she likes or not, so let's indulge her.

>>3943638
im goin out and will come back tonight, see you later guys,

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>>3943638
>>(Gentle) It's not like we made them thinking about taste... - lets remove it -

We hold her by the small of her back, and lean in to kiss her. As we lean in, we can see her shiver a little bit with nervousness, happiness, embarrasment and excitement.

Her eyes, already a gentle blue, have changed into a lighter, bright sky blue that looks almost electric since 'installing her new template', and her hair is now an amazingly bright red, more akin to a bright red flower, giving up an impression of freshness and making her look somewhat younger.

"Ah~" - she lets out happily as our lips meet hers

Our tongue invades her, pushing around inside her as we taste her, our hands sliding down her back to grab her hips, then lift. As usual, she keeps her hands up by her shoulders, having been trained to keep them to herself at times like this, causing her to look even more delicate and feminine.

Reaching down with our left hand, we caress her soft buttocks as we slide a finger through the small ring hanging from her buttplug, and steadily, casually pull.

"Hmm~!?" - she moans against our lips as the toy comes out in a couple of moments

Almost immediately, we can feel a wet, warm and soft touch sliding over our fingers, as her brand new...

>tongue
>tongues (how many?)

lick at our hand.

"Good girl." - we praise her, looking straight into her eyes - "Clean it up."
"Y-yes Master." - she cooes while blushing, reaching out blindly to follow our instructions.

As she does so, we consider her remaining template slots. Maybe we should use her third and fourth slots to give her combat forms, but would it be better to make them terrain oriented, with a flying and an aquatic one, or just go for minmaxing and give her an extremely defensive one, and an extremely offensive one? That is to say, one that is armored and one that is all about natural weapons.

>Terrain-based
>Min-max
>Other

>>3944533
>tongues ( 2 )
>Terrain-based

>>3944543
I'll admit, I envisioned three because I imagined three soft, wet and warm tongues wrapping up around Eldric's child from equidistant spots, but that's probably my desire for symmetry speaking. Its just that grabbing my right index finger with three fingers from my left hand looks much more symmetrical (and secure) than using just two

Alright, so terrain-based, does that means

>water
>flying
>high mobility (plains), maybe a centaur lower body?
>high maneuverability (forest, mountain, swamp), maybe a naga-like lower body?
>other

>>3944563
>flying
>high maneuverability (forest, mountain, swamp)

>>3944567
Alright, for flying, do you want her to fly bases solely on physical strength, magic/physical (hybrid), or purely based on magic?

If its purely physical strength, with how high her level/stats are, she can probably shine, but AFAIK, a bird's wings need to be 3-4 times as long as its body is tall, so with her being 172cm tall that is 688cm or 22ft 7in. I don't know the wingspan for bats and other stretched-skin flyers, but I do know that the harpy eagle, the largest eagle in the world, actually has very small wings compared to her size since it evolved to flying in the thick jungle so maybe 20ft wingspan would be okay... it would be less than ideal, but again, with how high her stats are she can probably pull it off.

Then again since its a [Template] she can turn on/off maybe its not really a problem anyway? She can just go back to another template when she doesn't need to fly, I guess.

Hybrid would be like what the succubus and Majin have. Much smaller-than-ideal wings, but they fly with magic and use the wings mostly to maneuver.

And purely magical is like what the faeries and dragons have (though dragons also use the wings to maneuver, it would be more correct to say they ONLY use them to maneuver).

>Physical flight
>Hybrid flight
>Magical flight
>Other? I dunno, something like what gold dragons have in D&D, with stingray-like wings that make it seem as if they're swimming rather than flying

>>3944580
>Hybrid flight
>>3944580

I really wanna go with three tongues unless you have to have two for some reason

>>3944582

"Uhn..." - she cooes softly, her lips tightly closed as she struggles to manipulate her brand new appendages

Pushing out from her sensitive pink hole, the sensation causes her to shiver noticeably.

"D-don't pull it away!" - she complains with a hot whisper, struggling to push her tongues out towards our hand.

Of course, we pull it away bit by bit, somewhat interested in just how long our toy's new appendages happen to be.

>Just as long as a normal tongue
>Slightly longer
>Several inches long (how long?)

As enjoyable as it is to see our beloved redhead squirm and shiver, we do manage to draw our attention away from her and back towards her racial skill. It would be wise to create a flying template for her... hmm... an hybrid flight system would be fine, I think.

>Bat wings
>Bird wings
>Insect wings
>Butterfly wings
>Other?

>>3944708
>Slightly longer
>Bird wings

>>3944708
>Slightly longer
>Bird wings

>>3944875
>>3944862
>>Slightly longer
>>Bird wings

hah, I was juuuuuuuuust about to roll the dice. You ok guys?

>>3944904
It's Thanksgiving in the USA, so things are a little delayed.

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>>3944906
Ooooh, its turkey day! Enjoy your meal, guys!

Sorry it took so long for this post too, I was having troubles checking the wording on this card. I'd be super grateful if you can post a better pic for me to use on it, btw

Seriously, I'm begging here.

***

Her beautiful eyes close down unto slits as we pull the plug away and she has to strain a little to reach out and stretch her brand new appendages, but she does still manage to reach for it, which promises to be quite fun going forth.

"Aren't you a natural at that?" - we tease her, and enjoy seeing her blush

She doesn't pull back, though, the tip of her new tongues gently licking at our fingertips and the plug we're holding. As we lower our hand a little more, we're pleasantly surprised to find that just as the tongues she had been using so far give up and withdraw inside her gasping passage, a new set reaches forth from her flower, reaching out like pistils towards the toy we hold in our hand.

"Fuu~" - she complains in embarrasment
"My sexy little toy." - we kiss her, and approach our hand towards her flower so she can lick at it with ease.

Her tongues tense, and the action causes them to pull, lifting the little plug off our hand.

"Hnn~" - she moans
"Good girl. Lick on it, don't let it fall."
"A-alright."
"Yes master" - we chide her happily
"Yes, Master." - she replies with a bright blish and a huge smile

Looking through the pet menu, we decide to create a flying template for her third template slot.

[Hybrid Flight] - Extra appendages (wings, fins, syphon) provide fine maneuvering while in flight. Flight itself is achieved through magical means.

[Bird Wings] - High Cost, High Maneuverability

Alright, flight secured... what else? Perhaps a slightly smaller body frame for ease of flight, or fly bladders... increased sight range, maybe?

What else should we add to her fliying template? Feet claws? It is a combat-oriented template after all.

>Claws
>Flight Bladders (maybe in her breasts?)
>Other

***

Basically, okay, we're giving her a form capable of flight since its obviously convenient and in a wide open space, its even more so. Do we want to give her any natural weapons in this form? It is a combat form after all. Please suggest stuff

>>3944995
>Other
Flight Bladders for stability, and I was thinking of using her flight form as an aerial artillery form, using Area-of-Effect magic spells rather than physical stuff.

So additional Dragon Magic, magic support traits from Majin, anything that can assist her casting. Like maybe there's something from the Undead or Constructs that prevent her casting from getting interrupted.

>>3945003
Well, its not like she -can't- cast AoE spells, but remember she's a buffer and debuffer first, specced for maximum loot, so her AoE spells aren't anywhere near minmaxed.

I thought flying would be useful to keep her out of reach of foes as she buffs and debuffs, plus give her mobility over large, empty areas.

Anyway, see you tomorrow guys

>>3945204

Anyway, bird wings... should be majin wings, since harpy wings are for fully physical flight, while majin are magic/body hybrids when it comes to flight.

Air bladders. Would her breasts grow larger when she's in flight shape, then? Otherwise would have to do the bird thing and give her larger, multi compartment lungs and a much more delicate inner structure, I think.

Ah, I guess she would have a bird-like bone structure, with hollow, more delicate and lighter bones, right?

Oh, should we give her a short and rigid tail to help her steer... maybe not, since she flies using magic and her wings are used to steer instead.

Anything you can suggest to add to her flight mode? We have wings and air bladders (inside her breasts, or in her lungs?) and that's it so far.

>>3945332
Put the air bladders in her lungs, with lighter bones.
Maybe add telescopic sight, like a hawk or eagle?

>>3945348
Honestly, duck eyes are better in that they see a LOT more colors than we do, which would make her world so much livelier. Just mentioning that since we're changing her eyes, who wouldn't like to see more colors to begin with?

Well I guess we can just pay for both.

Anyway, remember her normal form is her template 1 form. We added the photosyntesis, enhanced milk production and succubus digestive system to her template #2, so this will be template #3.

Do we just copy/paste #2 then add flight, air bladders and better eyesight to it for template #3, or make it a 'base' template with just the flight, air bladder and enhanced eyesight?

You know what it may be the music im hearing but this sounds confusing, let me try something else...

Template #1: Her default, no changes. Horns, tail, telepathy
Template #2: As above, but with succubus digestive system, photosyntesis, enhanced milk production and faery magic
Template #3: Empty
Template #4: Empty

For template #3, do we want to just copy #2 and then add flight and enhanced eyesight? I feel like its a waste of a template slot and may as well just add those traits to her template #2 since none of its traits conflict with one another.

That way we would still have 2 empty template slots, and we said we wanted to make an aquatic and high maneuverability templates, both of which are likely to be incompatible, if not with each other, at least with having bird wings.

I could see an argument to be made about the lower body of a snake (lamia?) being actually good at swimming (see every single sea snakes, eels and similarly shaped creatures in the sea) ANd excellent at climbing, but with the exception of penguins, birds don't use their wings underwater, do they?

Uhmm... maybe buying an special oil adaptation for her feathers, sort of like what ducks have?

>>3945441
Maybe for Template #3, Aquatic, we can use tentacles and squid water jet, and make her sort of a scylla?

Do we have access to the optic camo that octopi and cuttlefish have?

>>3945448
We can only give her traits our other pets have, so while we do have a kraken and thus tentacles are viable, I don't think any of our pets has cammo.

Anyway you didn't answer my (admittedly very poorly phrased) question. Do you want to add flight, flight bladders and improved eyesight to her template #1, or #2? Or just make a completely new one? (#3)

#1 is her basic form with no modifications. We can actually mod it, though
#2 is the one we made already, with the succubus, faery (honey) and faery (thorn) traits. It also has the horns, tail and telephaty of her [Shattered] default form, which is her template #1

>>3945455
I want to keep #1 as a safe default.
I was thinking that #2 could be a playtime template, but I suppose it's more efficient to make it her "travel/buff" template as well.

So just add them to #2.

>>3945459
>I was thinking that #2 could be a playtime template, but I suppose it's more efficient to make it her "travel/buff" template as well.
I'll be honest with you, I fully agree with having a playtime template, but I see no reason it can't also be her default template. since those are all traits that aren't obvious when just looking at her anyway.

>>3945463
I'm just the careful type that wants a "Reset" or baseline template available.

>>3945470
>I'm just the careful type that wants a "Reset" or baseline template available.
I fully understand you. I considered adding a "restore to default" funcion, but honestly decided it was pointless since whenever we rewrite a template it resets to default anyway, which we would have noticed if we had modified template #1 instead of making #2 and now #3.
Well, whenever we make #3 we'll notice right away since it will start with a "clean sheet".

Anyway, #3 will have wings, flight bladders, enhanced eyesight and that's all?

>Add Template #2 to it
>That's all
>Other

>>3945496
>Other
Add to #3 from #2 these traits:
Dragon Magic
Photosynthesis
Succubus Digestion

>>3945496
supporting >>3945515

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>>3945515
>>3945525

You mean to make #3 into a #2 with wings, flight bladder and improved eyesight, right? Why not just add them directly to #2 then?

Anyway, sure.

***

We safely make a new template for Lyann, and realize it starts without any other traits but those of her 'base form'.

Experimentally, we modify the recently made template and add all of the traits from template #2 to it and... the [System] erased the template when we tried to edit it, so we had to make it from the start and select everything in one go.

On the plus side, it means the template system comes with a built-in 'reset' button, so to speak.

>Have her shift to template #3. It should give her wings and make her somewhat lighter, but otherwise be the same as #2
>Look into #4.
>Other

>>3945640
>Have her shift to template #3. It should give her wings and make her somewhat lighter, but otherwise be the same as #2

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You know guys, I really wanna switch her wings to bat wings, if only because I have a lot of pics from Rias Gremory from Highschool D&D that would be perfect for Lyann since its a blue-eyed redhead with bat wings.

<--- see?

>>3945697
>>Have her shift to template #3. It should give her wings and make her somewhat lighter, but otherwise be the same as #2

***

"Good girl." - we praise her, and finally store away the plug - "Now change into your new template."
"Yes, Master." - she responds promptly

After a few moments, there's a couple of large wings on her back, their feathers just a little clearer than her flawless skin.

Her bright blue eyes have the barest hint of green on the edge of her pupils now, but there's no other visible changes.

Well, in theory she should be somewhat lighter now as well, but with out strength attribute, we can't really tell...

"E-eldric..!" - she gasps as we easily bounce her on our lap

Nope, can't tell.

Let's reward her with a kiss anyway, though.

"I'd say I now have a lovely angel of my own, but I don't think there's even been such a lewd, slutty angel..." - we smile and give her a deep, long kiss
"Hn..." - she cooes happily

This template was 36.000 exp. and its mostly just her template #2 with some improvements.

>Delete template #2
>Keep template #2 as is
>Other

>>3945747
Okay, bat wings is fine. We can even say that we're experimenting with changing templates, and switched her from bird wings to bat wings.

>Delete template #2

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<-- I wish her hair was black. Would make a perfect Mako (or Ren)

>>3945768

"Hmm..." - we reach around to feel her left wing
"That's ticklish..." - she complains gently
"That's perfect." - we grin
"M-master, you meanie!"

Yup, smooth, soft, bare skin, several feet of it.

Anyway, now we have 2 empty template slots. Or three if you consider template #1.

Let's see... ah, we can move them around. Alright, so let's move #3 to #1, which now leaves us with #2, #3 and #4 to work with.

We're definitively keeping #1 as our for fun, naughty times template, which means its about time for turning #2 into an aquatic template...

>Mermaid
>Octopus
>Crab or lobster centaur (we do have the option)
>Snake-like
>Just add fins along her legs
>Other

>>3945802
>Crab or lobster centaur (we do have the option)
What about the Crab humanoid form?
Make Lyann go full Kamen Rider Aqua!

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>>3945833
I'm pretty sure it'd be like this. Pretty much exactly, actually, but rather than centaur-like lobster or crab (that's called a homarid in Magic the Gathering IIRC), it would rather be buying a crab's armored exoeskeleton, I think.

If you want a kamen rider, wouldnt it have to be a grasshoper exoskeleton?

>>3945844
Oh, wait, what about the White Mantis we have? Can we get the Armored trait from them so it looks part Crab/part-Mantis?

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>>3945966
Uhmm... I think the mantis exoeskeleton isn't 'armored' though? Its just an exoskeleton. Wait, in that case, is Krabby's exoskeleton actually called a shell, or armor, instead?

But sure, I guess we can get both Krabby's and one of our mantises exoskeleton for a girly, pale pink and white exoskeleton (armor?).

Anyway I'll see you guys tomorrow. Maybe we should save the thread already? How does "Making Lyann configurable" sounds?

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>>3945987
Changed the card a little. Got rid of Banding since its reminder text used up too much space in the card

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<-- How's this for water template Lyann?

Anyway, you guys around? Do you wanna continue?

>>3946563
That’s a good look for Lyann. Let’s continue.

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>>3946566
Alright, so for her aquatic mode:

>Fish lower body (best energy-to-speed ratio)
>Eel lower body (Same as above, really)
>Octopus lower body (boneless, can do bursts of speed over short distances, and of course, multiple dexterous limbs)
>Crab or Lobster lower body (centaur-like, and can also walk and breathe on dry land)
>Other

Actually come think about it, octopus can also go to dry land, but for much more limited periods of time and move much slower in dryland.

>>3946759
>Fish lower body (best energy-to-speed ratio)

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>>3946809
1 vote for fish tail

Waiting for more votes. Meanwhile, what do you think of this for Fleur?

>>3946759
>>Fish lower body (best energy-to-speed ratio)

>>3946817
This is as an Empress, right?
I feel like there should be a measuring competition about who has the biggest horns among top tier evolutions.

>>3946841
>I feel like there should be a measuring competition about who has the biggest horns among top tier evolutions.
Dawn has the smallest ones, yet she's the horniest.

Anyway, its a shame you don't play MtG, so we can't discuss making their cards...

>>3946828
>>3946809
>Fish

Colors? I was thinking either the same color as her skin so it looks continuous and somewhat lewd, or the same color as her hair. Any other suggestions?

Wait, come think about it, when she swims, does she push by moving her tail sideways or up and down?

>Sideways like fish
>Up and down like water mammals (whales, dolphins, seals, etc)

Anyway, that and her tail is:

>Smooth
>Scaley
>Other

>Same color as her hair
>Same color as her skin
>Other

>>3946928
>Up and down like water mammals (whales, dolphins, seals, etc)
>Scaley
>Same color as her hair

>>3946937
goin out for a while, see you later guys. Hopefully there'll be more votes when i come back

>>3946928
supporting >>3946937

>>3947037
>>3946937

Wait, if she's going to have a tail like a mammal, why would it be scaly? Shouldn't it just be skin?

Anyway, you guys sure about the fish scales in the mammel limb? I guess it must have some evolutionary, hydrodynamic advantage or fish wouldnt have them, though

>>3947421
>Shouldn't it just be skin?
Oh, that's right. I didn't even consider that.

Skin would be better.
I think the scales is more because of the internal temperature and how fish biology works making scales easier than skin.

>>3947429
Oh, I am completely ignorant about fish biology. Okay.

Well, I assume we're giving her a magic-based ability to breathe under and above water?

Uhmm... eyes able to see in near dark? Bioluminisence is (correctly) used either to lure prey or to send messages in the depths.

Sea creatures have a ton of interesting abilities, and even though we only have three, that's still a lot of abilities.

(we have a shark in case anyone forgot)

Sharks have amazing senses, like the ability to sense the electrical current in living beings nearby so they don't really need to see someone to find him.

Sadly we don't have anything with echolocation at the moment. I wonder if the vampire girl will h- ah, Dawn has it, but she's not a pet at the moment.

Anyway, let's see... water-adapted lower body in the same color as her hair, water/air breathing and talking, darkvision, electrosense (not sure on the name), anything else?

Totally unrelated to current topic, but I rather like this suit... negligée? Not sure how you'd call it in english.

Anyway, I like the idea of a dark skinned girl (like Stella) wearing it for contrast, but a milky white girl (Zoe) would also be nice since it'd be hard to tell where it does and does not cover.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MNlmqhMWOE

>>3948120
Huh. I completely forgot about the shark. I don’t remember when we got it.
Since we have a Kraken, what about water jets, like a squid, for propulsion in water and as a water cannon above water?

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>>3948306
Where would the water stream came out from!? I'm actually scared of the answer.

Maybe it would be okay if we gave her an octopus lower body, I guess.

<-- playing Conan Exiles. Sadly can't make Stella's face as cute as I would like it to be

>>3948340
What if the jets are on the sides of the tail?

>>3949144
Yeah I was thinking about that, actually. I was looking at how octopii do it and noticed that, too. Sort of like jet turbines at the sides of the body.

I still think it would be better with octopus lower body, though.

Oh, I guess she would have some webbing between her fingers, too? Since its the water mode.

So let's see...

>Super bright red mermaid lower body (taken from Lyra, then dyed her own colors)
>Jet stream projectors (taken from squidward)
>Electrosense (taken from our shark)
>Webbed fingers (from Lyra)
>Depth-accustomed eyes (from Lyra)

Anything else? Maybe some large, flashy fins for looks?