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The year of 1962 is upon us, the tensions between the west and the east are rising, Africa is in a state of decolonization and turmoil. We are looking at an election, and the PRS has recovered from their 1950's bad economical situation.

Roll four dices of 6 for events of 62'

Rolled 4 (1d6)

>>4354318

Rolled 6 (1d6)

>>4354318
nat 1

Rolled 1 (1d6)

>>4354318

Rolled 2 (1d6)

>>4354318

The outcome of the elections was entirely in our favor. The previously appointed successor of the 3-term president, that lost the 1958 election (mostly because of us) now wins the seat over the incumbent liberal administration. Unfortunately for some of our previous … “partners”, from the liberal party, they did not know when and how to keep quiet. They threatened to blow the whistle on our meddling in the internal affairs and expose our brutal manipulation of politicians.
Well, good luck trying to expose us from the bottom of the sea. We had to “disappear” them to keep the whole ordeal quiet, this riled up some spirits left and right but we pinned it to the conservative party to take the heat off our seat.
(From roll of 4)

Up north the PRS is having a field day when it comes to agriculture. Their efforts of building up a strong base after the 1950’s failures resulted in a booming food production sector. They have expanded their fishing sector and opened a cannery too. Sugar cane plantations are growing together with the usual grains thanks to the irrigation canals they made and they’ve made a sea salt evaporation pond.
(From roll of 6, PRS budget increased)

In terms of world events, 1962 was quite an eventful one. The Cuban Missile Crisis happened, the Algerian war ended, a whole bunch of new wars started in Africa and much more.
The only very relevant world event for us, is that the newly independent Guinea, has made some treaties with the PRS for general economical cooperation, that might evolve in a mutual defense treaty of some sort. In addition to that, our advisors warn that it is possible Guinea may be used as a Soviet base for deploying naval and air assets in case of war with the PRS later in the decade, as they are close enough for bombers to reach us.
(From roll of 1)

The communists apparently got cocky over having something to eat, and have began to speak up loudly against us and provoking us by conducting naval patrols and fishing expeditions right at the border where international waters begin east of Dolores, bypassing the terms of the 1951 treaty where the waters north of Dolores to Everon are to be demilitarized. This calls for some action, probably…
(Tension +20% to 80%)

The recent political developments call for some kind of measures to be implemented.

>Respond to their provocations by sending in our boats to tangle with theirs on the pretext they are violating our territorial waters (and they probably are with a few meters or so).

>Kick it up a notch, respond with the navy, and test their border guard in the further north-west area (effectively starts a small border skirmish).

>Sit back and pretend we either do not care or are too scared to act. And in the meantime, put efforts into securing foreign support for the incoming conflict.

>Call a summit with the PRS to reduce tensions, we will fight them later.

>>4354432
>Sit back and pretend we either do not care or are too scared to act. And in the meantime, put efforts into securing foreign support for the incoming conflict.
Let them get cocky and overestimate themselves, but we should developed our internal industries because they get free infrastructure.

>>4354432
>Respond to their provocations by sending in our boats to tangle with theirs on the pretext they are violating our territorial waters (and they probably are with a few meters or so).

>>4354434
>>Sit back and pretend we either do not care or are too scared to act. And in the meantime, put efforts into securing foreign support for the incoming conflict.

>>4354434
>Sit back and pretend we either do not care or are too scared to act. And in the meantime, put efforts into securing foreign support for the incoming conflict.

Also sounds like we need fighters/radar to react to their bombers.

>>4354434
>Sit back and pretend we either do not care or are too scared to act. And in the meantime, put efforts into securing foreign support for the incoming conflict.

>>4354499
>bombers
If it comes to that, we’re boned without Western support. Hopefully the French like us still

Is their mine still going strong? Can we get their companies invested here to a greater degree...?

>>4354596
I don't think we are screwed if they use bombers. We have the capability to buy jet fighters and radar, and we already have jet fighter-bombers. And this is all assuming the use jet bombers instead of some WW2 era bombers like IL-2's or something, in which case we have spitfires to help us as well.

>>4354633
We should get that radar station up soon
Also we should start replacing all those bolt action rifles. Lets get some trial weapons for it.

>>4354653
Agreed, but let's prioritize our AA (fighters and radar) before going full ham on small arms.

>>4354596
>>4354499
>>4354494
>>4354442

We can prioritize who we approach to help us as soon as conflict erupts or even before that.

>Approach Britain/France: They helped us before, they may help us again. After the 1956 Suez crisis fiasco, their image of great powers was hurt and will not be very enthusiastic joining more conflicts especially after France's poor record in Algeria and Indochina.
At least they are our main equipment suppliers so that will help a bit.

>Approach USA: They are now seemingly more than willing to contain communism worldwide and are willing to do it with a lot of troops and gear. Problem is that every action of the USA has a overreaction from the USSR and we might turn the island into Germany 2.0 with American and Soviet tanks staring at each other over a foreign border.

>Approach Spain/Portugal: While not the first ones you'd think up of helping out, they are the two nations currently not playing along in the whole "decolonize Africa and hand it over to the communists" deal going on. Plus they are the closes european nations to us and they might very well be concerned if we are no longer here to be a buffer against a potential base for striking Iberia from the south.

>>4354723
>Approach Spain/Portugal: While not the first ones you'd think up of helping out, they are the two nations currently not playing along in the whole "decolonize Africa and hand it over to the communists" deal going on. Plus they are the closes european nations to us and they might very well be concerned if we are no longer here to be a buffer against a potential base for striking Iberia from the south.
Probably our best bet right now. Close second is the French.

>>4354723
>Approach Britain/France: They helped us before, they may help us again. After the 1956 Suez crisis fiasco, their image of great powers was hurt and will not be very enthusiastic joining more conflicts especially after France's poor record in Algeria and Indochina.

>>4354723
>>Approach Britain/France: They helped us before, they may help us again. After the 1956 Suez crisis fiasco, their image of great powers was hurt and will not be very enthusiastic joining more conflicts especially after France's poor record in Algeria and Indochina.

>>4354723

>Approach Spain/Portugal: While not the first ones you'd think up of helping out, they are the two nations currently not playing along in the whole "decolonize Africa and hand it over to the communists" deal going on. Plus they are the closes european nations to us and they might very well be concerned if we are no longer here to be a buffer against a potential base for striking Iberia from the south.

>>4354723
>Approach USA: They are now seemingly more than willing to contain communism worldwide and are willing to do it with a lot of troops and gear. Problem is that every action of the USA has a overreaction from the USSR and we might turn the island into Germany 2.0 with American and Soviet tanks staring at each other over a foreign border.
It's the cold war, if we aren't teamed up with the Americans we aren't teamed up with anyone.

It’s not a CWSS thread without a tie
I will change my vote to the British and the French. The Iberians will help us either way because of the mentioned issues. If we get in a war and it turns south we can get the Americans to bail us out.

I suppose I’d vote to pursue relations with the Spanish and Portuguese, seems like they have less reasons to not get involved and more reasons to keep us around.

>>4354757
Seconding America is all about communism bad at this point so they'd be the most likely to help.

>>4354723
>Approach USA: They are now seemingly more than willing to contain communism worldwide and are willing to do it with a lot of troops and gear. Problem is that every action of the USA has a overreaction from the USSR and we might turn the island into Germany 2.0 with American and Soviet tanks staring at each other over a foreign border.

>>4354723

>Approach Spain/Portugal: While not the first ones you'd think up of helping out, they are the two nations currently not playing along in the whole "decolonize Africa and hand it over to the communists" deal going on. Plus they are the closes european nations to us and they might very well be concerned if we are no longer here to be a buffer against a potential base for striking Iberia from the south.

I'd really rather avoid approaching the USA, I don't want to risk an over escalation by the soviets

>>4354723
>Approach USA: They are now seemingly more than willing to contain communism worldwide and are willing to do it with a lot of troops and gear. Problem is that every action of the USA has a overreaction from the USSR and we might turn the island into Germany 2.0 with American and Soviet tanks staring at each other over a foreign border.

The Iberians don’t do expeditionary forces - and if the Soviets are going to build a base locally, might a well go all out.

>>4355089
Don't know about Spain but Portuguese troops was all over the place in this period like in timor, Ghana and mocambique. Mostly Africa though

>>4354723
>Approach USA: They are now seemingly more than willing to contain communism worldwide and are willing to do it with a lot of troops and gear. Problem is that every action of the USA has a overreaction from the USSR and we might turn the island into Germany 2.0 with American and Soviet tanks staring at each other over a foreign border.

>>4354723
>Approach Britain/France

>>4354723
>Approach USA: They are now seemingly more than willing to contain communism worldwide and are willing to do it with a lot of troops and gear. Problem is that every action of the USA has a overreaction from the USSR and we might turn the island into Germany 2.0 with American and Soviet tanks staring at each other over a foreign border

Well, that was one hell of a vote.

Britain/France: 4

USA: 5

Spain/Portugal: 3
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Roll two dices of 6 to determine how well the talks with the USA will go.

Rolled 2, 6 = 8 (2d6)

>>4355945

Rolled 5 (1d6)

>>4355945

Rolled 6 (1d6)

>>4355945

>>4355951
>>4355954

Initially our advances towards the United States were going well. With Secretary of Defence McNamara we were about to sign a treaty to construct so barracks near Paraiso that were to be used by the USMC permanently for at least 5 years … then President Kennedy politely told McNamara that it will not be happening as the current administration is moving away from the 50’s foreign policy of the USA.
If this Kennedy keeps angering the American establishment, he will surely not get a second mandate, or worse…
(From roll of 2)

On the bright side, we managed to at least secure some military aid for free from the Americans. They have shipped 4 more M114 155mm howitzers so we beef up our artillery unit and 50 M20 “Super Bazookas”. This amount of M20’s is enough to completely replace the horribly outdated PIAT launchers we have in service in some units.
(From roll of 5)
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Next is procurement list for 1963, just have to update it with stuff.

Procurement list for 1963:
Current defense budget index value: 48$

Ammunition:
>Expand our stockpiles of ammo we are relatively short on (155mm shells): 3$
>Buy HVAR rockets to be fitted on the F-84G’s: 4$
>Buy 250lb (~100kg) bombs to be fitted on the F-84G’s: 3$

Small arms:
>Convert our BREN guns to the now widely used 7.62x51mm: 7$ (price includes buying up a decent ammo stockpile)
>Buy modern British small arms for one company: 8$
>Buy modern British small arms for one battalion: 22$
>Buy French small arms for one company: 6$
>Buy French small arms for one battalion: 15$
>Buy a batch of 200 semi-auto MAS-49 rifles to phase out the bolt action MAS-36: 16$
>Buy a small batch of modern West German small arms for trial: 4$
>Buy a small batch of modern American small arms for trial: 4$
>Buy American M20 “Super Bazookas” anti tank weapons for two companies: 4$
>Buy Swedish “Carl Gustav” anti tank weapons for two companies: 12$

Heavy weapons:
>Buy two M2 Browning .50 cal machineguns from USA: 1$
>Buy Swedish 40mm Bofors AA guns: 5$
>Buy American M101 (105mm) howitzers: 11$
>Buy American M114 (155mm) howitzers: 15$
>Buy 6 British L6 BAT (120mm) recoilless guns to upgrade our AT unit: 17$
>Buy 6 American M40 (106mm) recoilless guns to upgrade our AT unit: 19$

Transport Vehicles:
>Buy 5 American 6-ton trucks: 4$
>Buy 5 American M3 half-tracks, unarmed, can be fitted with a M2 Browning: 7$
>Buy 5 French AMX-VTT armored personnel carriers, unarmed, can order weapons separately for mounting: 12$
>Buy 5 American M59 armored personnel carriers, armed with a M2 Browning: 14$

Combat Vehicles:
>Buy three French modern “Panhard EBR” armored cars, armed with a 75mm gun and one 7.5mm machinegun: 11$
>Buy three new American M41 “Walker Bulldog” light tanks, armed with a long 75mm gun and a M2 50. Machine gun: 16$
>Buy three British Comet medium tanks, armed with 77mm HV gun and a 7.92mm machine gun: 17$
>Buy three French AMX-13 new light tanks, armed with long autoloaded 75mm gun and a 7.5mm machinegun: 18$
>Buy three American M36 “Jackson” tank destroyers, armed with a 90mm gun and a M2 machine gun: 18$
>Buy three American M41 “Gorilla” self propelled guns, armed with the 155mm pieces we already have in service: 24$
>Buy three American new M48 “Patton III” tanks, armed with a 90mm gun and two M2 machine guns: 32$
>Buy three new British “Centurion Mk3” medium tanks, armed with 84mm gun and a 30. Cal machine gun: 33$

>Buy two American “Elco” motor torpedo boats, armed with two .50 caliber M2 machine guns and 2 torpedoes: 4$
>Buy an American “PC-451” gunboat, armed with one 75mm gun and 4x20mm Oerlikon guns: 5$
>Buy an American “LCI(L)” infantry landing craft, able to ferry two companies at once: 8$
>Buy three light Italian motor gun boats, armed with 40mm Bofors guns: 11$
>Buy two modern British “Dark” motor torpedo boats, armed with a 40mm Bofors gun and 4 torpedoes: 12$

>Buy a French “Alouette II” light scout helicopter, armed with Nord SS.11 wire guided missiles: 7$
>Buy three new French CM.170 “Magister” jet trainer planes, can be modified to carry ordinance: 15$
>Buy four more American F-84G “Thunderjet” jet fighter-bombers: 31$
>Buy four French Dassault MD.450 “Ouragan” jet fighter-bombers: 35$
>Buy four American F-86 “Sabre” dedicated jet fighters: 37$

Special projects:
>Six concrete pillboxes: 6$
>Dirt airfield track southwest of Obregan: 4$
>Underground ammo depots in the Obregan fortified area: 4$
>Radar station in Obregan: 5$
>Divert funds into improving the roads: 16$

>Expand our stockpiles of ammo we are relatively short on (155mm shells): 3$
>Dirt airfield track southwest of Obregan: 4$
>Radar station in Obregan: 5$
>Buy Six French AMX-13 new light tanks, armed with long autoloaded 75mm gun and a 7.5mm machinegun: 36$

The AMX-13 can support the mechanized Battalion
Having 12 rounds outweighs the light tank. Because we can unload many shots in little time. Move it around to unload into infantry and retreats
it could also pent T-34. It could be our spearhead to punch through the enemy before they get the support of other counties

>>4356024

Ammunition:
>Expand our stockpiles of ammo we are relatively short on (155mm shells): 3$

Heavy weapons:
>Buy two M2 Browning .50 cal machineguns from USA: 1$

To round out our budget and also stick on our half-tracks.

Transport Vehicles:
>Buy 5 American 6-ton trucks: 4$

For transport for our new arty guns gifted us by USA

Combat Vehicles:
>Buy four American F-86 “Sabre” dedicated jet fighters: 37$

Fighters to shoot down any potential bombers. Ideally our spitfires or thunderjets would handle them, but we don't know what might be coming, so I want to be safe.

Special projects:
>Radar station in Obregan: 5$

Radar station to detect potential bombers.

>Combine the tanks bought last year into our tank company
>Attach artillery gifted from USA to a battalion without a support company
>Equip half-tracks with .50 cals from reserve (I know this will probably not be enough, but I want to have as many of them with guns as possible)

>>4356028
I can see the merit with the light tanks, but I think the threat of bombers is a higher priority to address than the firepower of our mechanized unit. Even if they don't get air support initially, the soviets might ship some out to them as the war drags on. Also, our armor company can already act as a spearhead to penetrate their lines (when they aren't being used to kill T34's).

>>4356045
>>4356024

I thought we had a $50 budget, woops. Gotta change it now.


Ammunition:
>Expand our stockpiles of ammo we are relatively short on (155mm shells): 3$

Heavy weapons:
>Buy six M2 Browning .50 cal machineguns from USA: 3$

Combat Vehicles:
>Buy four American F-86 “Sabre” dedicated jet fighters: 37$

Special projects:
>Radar station in Obregan: 5$

>>4356028
+1

>>4356024
More ammo is always good
>Expand our stockpiles of ammo we are relatively short on (155mm shells): 3$
Bomb the commies to hell
>Buy 250lb (~100kg) bombs to be fitted on the F-84G’s: 3$
Upgrade time
>Convert our BREN guns to the now widely used 7.62x51mm: 7$ (price includes buying up a decent ammo stockpile)
To get rid of the French bolt actions we have
>Buy a batch of 200 semi-auto MAS-49 rifles to phase out the bolt action MAS-36: 16$
Still have a shit ton of Lee Enfield's we need to get rid of so let’s start doing some trials
>Buy a small batch of modern American small arms for trial: 4$
For more close range infantry support
>Buy a French “Alouette II” light scout helicopter, armed with Nord SS.11 wire guided missiles: 7$
When we get into the war with the commies again we are going to need to get our planes back up ASAP so having an airfield near the frontlines will be good.
>Dirt airfield track southwest of Obregan: 4$
Ammo was an issue in the last war so with a nearby cache and our trucks we can fix this problem
>Underground ammo depots in the Obregan fortified area: 4$

>>4356025
>Convert our BREN guns to the now widely used 7.62x51mm: 7$ (price includes buying up a decent ammo stockpile)
>Buy 5 American 6-ton trucks: 4$
>Buy 5 American M3 half-tracks, unarmed, can be fitted with a M2 Browning: 7$
>Dirt airfield track southwest of Obregan: 4$
>Radar station in Obregan: 5$
>Divert funds into improving the roads: 16$
>Buy a small batch of modern American small arms for trial: 4$
>Buy two M2 Browning .50 cal machineguns from USA: 1$
Make mobile infantry, and get the infantry some better guns. Plus radar station and roads.

>>4356336
Ill support this

>>4356024
Ammunition:
>Expand our stockpiles of ammo we are relatively short on (155mm shells): 3$

Small arms:
>Convert our BREN guns to the now widely used 7.62x51mm: 7$ (price includes buying up a decent ammo stockpile)

Heavy weapons
>Buy four M2 Browning .50 cal machineguns from USA: 2$

Attach these + the spare ones to our existing M3 half tracks

Combat Vehicles:
>Buy four more American F-84G “Thunderjet” jet fighter-bombers: 31$

Special projects:
>Radar station in Obregan: 5$

>>4356623
Switching to this if no one supports mine, fighter-bombers are better than nothing for shooting down bombers.

Don't forget to combine our new tanks into the armor company, and the new artillery into a support company.

>>4356623
I will switch my vote to this for now
Guys we need to start updating our infantry, we already control the sea and air. We gotta get rid of those bolt actions and replace our still outdated AT guns.

>>4356024
I think we really need to modernize our army.

>Buy a batch of 200 semi-auto MAS-49 rifles to phase out the bolt action MAS-36: 16$
>Buy a small batch of modern West German small arms for trial: 4$
>Buy a small batch of modern American small arms for trial: 4$
>Buy modern British small arms for one company:
>Divert funds into improving the roads: 16$

This will allow our infantry to fight better than theirs and also improve our roads

>>4356853
I like this, but we need the ammo, radar and planes now - in case tensions break into war next turn

Happy to support a small arms / roads revamp next turn

>>4356639
I think the AT guns are the least of our concerns. We have our own tanks to deal with them and planes to bomb them, and if by some miracle they manage to try to bum rush through our lines we have bazookas with every unit to deal with them as well.

>>4356860
Agreed, the ammo/radar/planes are more urgent. The prez might do the roads for us for all we know, this is the old conservative party.

Anons wants more different weapons from different countries so we have more problems with ammo.

>>4356869
Guess we just need to keep expanding our local ammo industry

>>4356860
I can get behind that, we will also need to buy more HVAR rockets but looks good.
Supporting >>4356623
instead of >>4356853

>>4356864
Our AT guns can be used as artillery if need be and will be good for defensive situations or sieges.
But as long as we do it soon I am content

>>4356936
If we're concerned with infantry support equipment I'd rather have mortars or actual artillery, which is a lower priority right now.

>>4357000
Actual artillery is ok but I mostly want to upgrade our infantry equipment

Why not combine our Mechanised forces at Corazol? we would have a gap in the line but that would offset by the increase in combat power.

Budget wise we should grab a lot more artillery shells.

If we get the option to do so we should improve the ammo factory. We buy ammo every year so but investing in the factory we will keep more money in the country and create jobs.

Lets just get the FAL in 7.62 and make that our main service rifle. We can even get carbine versions.

>>4357278
I’d back that

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>>4356623
This one goes through.
Will need 11 more M2's to equip the halftracks, but I will add a variant to order them in bulk to make it cheaper.

Four rolls of 6 for the PRS acquisition.

Rolled 3 (1d6)

>>4357418

Rolled 1 (1d6)

>>4357418

Rolled 1 (1d6)

>>4357418

>>4357418
I might be missing something but we still have the same amount of Bren guns fielded

>>4357822
>Convert our BREN guns to the now widely used 7.62x51mm
The choice picked was just converting the guns to use a different round.

>>4357825
Yeah my bad. I just woke up and thought the Bren was a different gun.

Rolled 1 (1d6)

>>4357418

so why can't the Dem. Rep. of Sahrani just take the whole of the north? you have the support of the uk and france why can't you all just roll for a all out attack taking the north? the PRS has a smaller force and smaller land and no airforce/support. hell the warsaw pact isn't really doing anything? why not just all roll to expand the military or have a joint force with france and britain to finish this?

>>4357946
If it was that simple we would have already done it. We aren’t going to start the war for the sake of our international image and the only reason the last war ended the way it did was because of Soviet tanks started to be imported. We didn’t have good counters to that so we agreed to peace. If we start the war now, France and Britain will be much more reluctant to join due to colonial failures, they said so themselves.

>>4357957
this is why in the first thread i've felt you guys should of been with PRS and not give a shit about international image at all.

>>4357971
Yeah but shooting commies is more fun

>>4357971
We may not have had as much freedom as commies, if we are too aggressive as commies it could spook the US into supporting the democrats.

>>4357978
being nazbol is more fun then being a c*pitalist dog
>>4357993
fuck gaymerikkka

>>4357946
Because of shit rolls, and plot armor.

>>4358040
Man that was a pretty bad streak of rolls. Surely it won't happen again, next time we'll kick the commies into the ocean.

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>>4357463
>>4357534
>>4357558
>>4357925

Oh man, I waited for 10 hours for an intell roll of 1 ...

Welp, guess im not telling anything on what the PRS got this turn, other than it is NOT tanks/planes/boats or any other heavy ordinance.
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>>4357993
>we are too aggressive as commies it could spook the US
This

>>4357074
>Why not combine our Mechanised forces at Corazol?
I refuse to give battalions and companies base manpower numbers other than 200 and 50 respectively for ease of keeping track of everything deployed and for ease of merging.

>>4358040
>plot armor
Not really, quest can end at any time by securing a military victory. In 1951 both sides were too balanced out on gear/manpower so it was going to be a natural stalemate.
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Since no new units were deployed or moved, there are no map changes but for the sake of not missing a year, here is one.

Four rolls of 6 for the 1963 events

Rolled 2 (1d6)

>>4358197

Rolled 4 (1d6)

>>4358197

Rolled 5 (1d6)

>>4358197

Rolled 1 (1d6)

>>4358197

>>4358226
Wait, isn't the last roll for stability? We are already at 80%, and last time we rolled a 1 it was boosted by 20%. Are we at war right now?

>>4358226
Oh boy, looks like war is here now boys! Time to use those bombers for something now.
>>4358236
Yeah it's for tensions

Rolled 8 (1d12)

Month roll

The new president, trying to emulate the old days of the first administration, set on to invest into various projects, starting with improving the roads that the liberals left untouched. Initially, nothing bad about it right? Yeah, but the money for that were taken right out our defense budget, with some plans of making a resort town south of Paraiso to attract foreign investment. Hopefully the money for that next year will not come from our coffer again.
(From roll of 2, budget -15$)

The north remains on a steady track with farming their way out of poverty and the strategy of allowing small parcels of privately owned non-collectivized land is keeping the farmers happy. Their cannery is exporting goods to the COMECON members and from what we can gather from their press they plan on expanding the sector with tobacco and rum … probably trying to emulate Castro or compete with him.
(From PRS roll of 4, slight budget increase)

The initially scary situation with newly independent states like Ghana and Mauritania has settled down after it became apparent that they can not survive completely on their own. The French have did their political tricks and bound them with one or two … “unequal treaties” lets call them, forcing them to at least cooperate with the west for few more years and not let the Soviet Union waltz in with military assets from the get go.
(From roll of 5, Soviet forces will not be stationed in the West African region for at least 4 more years)

While the trespassing of our territorial waters ceased … the PRS has cut all lines of communications and their forces on the border are reported to have ceased patrolling and have dug in. The road to Corazol is blocked and the whole city is presumed to be turned into a city fortress judging from the lack of movement out, and the amount of movement in the city… looks like the PRS has made its bet.
(From roll of 1, Tensions at 97%)

August 2nd 1963

Almost exactly twelve years after the first conflict, we are on the brink of a new one. Diplomatic channels are down, we must decide in a relative haste what the general path of action will be.

>Lay down low, we got the manpower, we got the positions. Let them come first and break their necks in our defenses if they so much desire so.

>Letting them mobilize and attack in a way they see best is not acceptable. We have technical superiority on land, air and sea. We must be on the offensive this time.

>Looks like they are precisely waiting for us to make a massive assault to wear us down. While doing nothing is not an option, we can open up with some airstrikes and naval incursions. Hopefully by the time we get a chance to seize Corazol we wont be forced to stop due to international factors like last time.

>>4358252
>Lay down low, we got the manpower, we got the positions. Let them come first and break their necks in our defenses if they so much desire so.
Also call the French and British.

>>4358252
>Lay down low, we got the manpower, we got the positions. Let them come first and break their necks in our defenses if they so much desire so.

>>4358252
>Lay down low, we got the manpower, we got the positions. Let them come first and break their necks in our defenses if they so much desire so.

We really need those modern guns.

>>4358266
at least we have air superiority and a lot of HMGs

>>4358197
>I refuse to give battalions and companies base manpower numbers other than 200 and 50
What about adding an extra 0 at the end of both numbers?

>quest can end at any time by securing a military victory
but then we'd miss out on the Vietnam boooglaloo with america. need free military aid gibs

>>4358252
>Lay down low, we got the manpower, we got the positions. Let them come first and break their necks in our defenses if they so much desire so.
Their turn to attack, made defense in depth.

>>4358252
>Lay down low, we got the manpower, we got the positions. Let them come first and break their necks in our defenses if they so much desire so.
Phony war time.

>>4358258
>>4358264
>>4358266
>>4358287
>>4358317

Two rolls of 6 for PRS moves.
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>>4358287
>What about adding an extra 0 at the end of both numbers?

Combining 4 companies = Battalion
Combining 3 Battalions = Regiment
Combining 3 Regiments = Brigade

Rolled 4 (1d6)

>>4358344

Rolled 2 (1d6)

>>4358344

>>4358344
isn't it companies into regiments?

While we wait for a decisive strike all day on 2nd, nothing happens. We do intercept some radio comms from the north suggesting they are moving some forces closer to the border. Their regiment to be more specific.

The morning of 3rd opens up with news of an over the border firefight in the far western sector. Communist forces have engaged out 5th Company stationed there and managed to take the border outpost. Our squads were outgunned, their unit is equipped with AK assault rifles and RPD belt fed machineguns while ours were with semi-auto battle rifles and box fed machine guns. Combined with their superior over watching position on the mountain, our unit was caught by surprise and fell back a kilometer. The PRS forces did not chase us further.
(Hex is considered contested and not occupied by PRS)

We can, and at this point we are obligated to respond with a counter attack, question is how:

>Immediate counter attack from the 5th Company, regardless the fact they are outgunned. At least now they won’t be taken by surprise

>Wait for three or four hours until we get the F-84’s in the air, bomb the outpost to shit and move in.

>Wait for six hours for our tank unit to come in the area and provide support for the counter attack to reduce potential casualties, and use the air support.

>Commence a comprehensive (relative to initial force size) counter action, involving the tanks, planes and the mountaineers on the next day.
Fifth company will move in supported by tanks and seize the outpost, then our mountain unit will return the favor by making an incursion on their side in the mountains, fully utilizing our close air support assets.

>>4358422
>Wait for three or four hours until we get the F-84’s in the air, bomb the outpost to shit and move in.

Were not going to be able to fight on the ground with ww2 rifles need to use our jets/tanks

>>4358422
I told you guys to upgrade our infantry equipment but no, muh planes. Well, better use it now.
>Wait for three or four hours until we get the F-84’s in the air, bomb the outpost to shit and move in.
I want to obliterate the PRC forces with airstrikes

>>4358422
>Wait for three or four hours until we get the F-84’s in the air, bomb the outpost to shit and move in.

>>4358432
Why didn't they listen?
>>4358422
>Wait for six hours for our tank unit to come in the area and provide support for the counter attack to reduce potential casualties, and use the air support.

>>4358422
>Wait for three or four hours until we get the F-84’s in the air, bomb the outpost to shit and move in.

>>4358422
>Wait for three or four hours until we get the F-84’s in the air, bomb the outpost to shit and move in.

>>4358422
On the new F-84’s can we swap the pilots on the trainer planes so they at least have two trained pilots?

>>4358504
I don't know if training works like that...

>>4358432
>>4358452
At the time there was a very real threat of soviet air support based in west africa, so I wanted to be able to resist being bombed to shit. At least we have a lot of jet planes to work with now and to our knowledge they have 0 air assets and their only AA is outdated and only effective against slow moving aircraft.

>>4358422
>Wait for three or four hours until we get the F-84’s in the air, bomb the outpost to shit and move in.
BUT don't use all of the jet planes, only one group. We need one held in reserve to smack the katyushas / T34's if they decide to rear their heads.

>>4358432
>>4358452
They wanted the shinnies instead, and hate having a single rifle in a standardized caliber.

Even if we have an extra turn before the war, we'd still not have gotten proper battle rifles.

>>4358422
>Wait for three or four hours until we get the F-84’s in the air, bomb the outpost to shit and move in.
Can we bomb the town they are fortifying near the border?

>>4358645
You seem reasonable. I'll vote for your weapon proposal next time it comes up.
>Can we bomb the town they are fortifying near the border?
I don't think this is a good idea, we only have so many bombs, the commies are entrenched, and the PR could be very bad. I don't think it's worth it.

>>4358656
Lets just airstrike the enemy minister of defence.

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Just in case the game runs when I'm asleep I will post my plan

Step 1: Use 5th Company, Mountain Company and 2nd Battalion To clear out the PRS 1st company. and use 1st Battalion as a blocker for any tanks/infanty.
Step 2: Move east with the infantry to fight off the PRS 2nd and 3rd Company with the assistance of our mechanized/tanks
Step 3: Occupy the hills along the road to Everon/Corazol to try to force the surrender of Corazol

If Corazol does not surrender use pamphlet's to announce the bombing then possibly attack.

>>4358656
Well I was thinking it would confuse the enemy, force them to spread out their defenses, mainly AA defenses, and misdirect where we intend to attack,

>>4358695
What if we land marine and naval units on the western peninsula and take the town Maraedo, then focus on circling that infantry on the mountain.

>>4358783
I have 2 issues with that addition, the first is keeping the marines supplied and the other is there is no infrastructure from Maraedo to the rest of our country for if we take it.

>>4358780
I don't think attacking where they have prepared a "city fortress" will catch them off guard. We don't have the equipment or manpower for an attack like that.

>>4358807
Airdrops, and the boats can offload more supplies.

>>4358850
I thought it was Corazol that the fortress.

>Wait for three or four hours until we get the F-84’s in the air, bomb the outpost to shit and move in.

One roll of 20
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>>4358504
They build up some XP over time

>>4358645
Bombing the town will indeed by terrible PR.

>>4358783
Bad idea as indeed supply could be tough, plus mobilizing reserves is possible for both sides as outdated equipment is still stored.

Rolled 7 (1d20)

>>4358917

1300 hrs

Both F-84 wings are raised urgently, armed with a combination of bombs and rockets. At noon they they begin pounding everything that looks like usable cover from the air. The border outpost was leveled with ordinance, then some guns runs on “suspicious objects” were made.
After the planes started returning to the base, our fifth company moved in.

At around 1400 hrs the firefight started. While the airstrike surely leveled most of their usable cover, there are still PRS forces in the sector.
Two machinegunners at least we active and resistance is tenacious in the ruins of the outpost. By 1500 our unit was locked at 300 meters from the enemy, unable to advance due to heavy suppression.
Number of combat capable men on our side is 30, enemy probably the same after the air strike.

Orders for the afternoon phase?

>Keep pressing on with the infantry, soon we will have supply trucks reaching our unit, while they can not supply their own through the mountain so easily.

>Hold the ground we got and wait for few hours until the planes return to hit them before nightfall, then we do it again.

>Get the mountaineers here, and the tanks. We hit them next morning to cut down losses on our sides.

>>4358938
>Hold the ground we got and wait for few hours until the planes return to hit them before nightfall, then we do it again.
Those poor PRS soldiers are out here all alone told to die on this outpost. How sad. We should keep the tanks in reserves until they're needed.

>>4358617
>At the time there was a very real threat of soviet air support based in west africa
This quest really has illustrated the job of being a defence secretary

Imperfect information, limited budgets, political considerations - and the very real threat of military losses or even defeat. Bravo QM

>>4358938
>Hold the ground we got and wait for few hours until the planes return to hit them before nightfall, then we do it again.

Keep abusing our superior air power

>>4357418
Why didn’t we mobilise our Spitfires as well for the air strike...?

>>4358938
>>4358954
this but don't just randomly bomb them, wait until the fighting has started so we can actually bomb where they are shooting from and not just "wherever cover is"

>>4358959
Seconding this.

>Hold the ground we got and wait for few hours until the planes return to hit them before nightfall, then we do it again.

One roll of 6
One roll of 20
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>>4358956
Spitfires can get there, but not sure if they can with a bomb strapped on them. That dirt airfield would have helped ... if it was there.

>>4358959
This time accuracy should be improved as we have some known MG positions radioed in.
But we still do not have the ground-to-air comms on the level USA has them to do brutal CAS. Better planes will help, radio tech and operational doctrine will improve with time.

Rolled 5 (1d6)

>>4358987
Okay, here we go.

Rolled 20 (1d20)

>>4358987

>>4358998
>>4359004

At 1700 hrs the F-84’s come back and do a sweep. Bombs and rockets hit their known positions from noon. Right after the gun sweeps end our infantry moves in. We find much less resistance, the strikes were effective despite the small unit size. Despite the enemy forces being from their better prepared 1st Company, they are apparently not prepared to take airstrikes. Silencing the last resisting troops took two hours, two squads tried to retreat back over the border, but were too shaken to do it in time. Most of them were gunned down by our forces and only few disorganized fighters managed to climb the mountain on their side.
Their company is effectively destroyed, we lost 20 men for the three fights, only 5 in the last mop up action.
(From roll of 20)

In the meantime we have confirmation their Regiment is moving south, utilizing some trucks they had in storage and requisitioned civilian vehicles. This redeployment will probably finalize in 48 hours. We do not intercept any comms on other movements and high altitude recon flyovers do not see vehicle columns moving through the bush … they might be waiting for the night to do it.
(From roll of 5 to determine PRS actions)

While we wait for them to make a move, what will ours be? Diplomatic actions will be available next morning when we have a clear picture to present to everyone.

>Our fifth company will return the favor by taking over that peak of theirs by the coast. See what they are going to do about with no planes or arty in the area.

>Get the mountaineers to do it, it’s their job after all and 5th company needs rest. It will be done in around 16 hours though as they have some distance to walk and then climb, and our logi trucks are only 5 and will be busy with 5th for the day.

>Screw that mountain, embrace “disproportionate retaliation”. If that regiment is coming, we should at least skirmish the defenses of Corazol to figure out what are we up against. Move our regiment and 3rd Battalion in during night time over the border and cautiously try to gain some ground on daybreak. The tanks are going to cover their north in case they the commies try to flank us.

>>4359030
>>Get the mountaineers to do it, it’s their job after all and 5th company needs rest. It will be done in around 16 hours though as they have some distance to walk and then climb, and our logi trucks are only 5 and will be busy with 5th for the day.

>>4359030
>Screw that mountain, embrace “disproportionate retaliation”. If that regiment is coming, we should at least skirmish the defenses of Corazol to figure out what are we up against. Move our regiment and 3rd Battalion in during night time over the border and cautiously try to gain some ground on daybreak. The tanks are going to cover their north in case they the commies try to flank us.

>>4359030
>>Get the mountaineers to do it, it’s their job after all and 5th company needs rest. It will be done in around 16 hours though as they have some distance to walk and then climb, and our logi trucks are only 5 and will be busy with 5th for the day.

>>4359030
>Get the mountaineers to do it, it’s their job after all and 5th company needs rest. It will be done in around 16 hours though as they have some distance to walk and then climb, and our logi trucks are only 5 and will be busy with 5th for the day.

>>4359030
>Get the mountaineers to do it, it’s their job after all and 5th company needs rest. It will be done in around 16 hours though as they have some distance to walk and then climb, and our logi trucks are only 5 and will be busy with 5th for the day.

>>4359030
>Get the mountaineers to do it, it’s their job after all and 5th company needs rest. It will be done in around 16 hours though as they have some distance to walk and then climb, and our logi trucks are only 5 and will be busy with 5th for the day.

>>4358987
Spitfires shouldn't need bombs to effectively provide ground support, they can strafe infantry and strongpoints. Even if they have some armor around, 4 20mm cannons on each plane hitting weaker top armor should be effective.

>>4359142
That sounds dangerous, don't the commies have some aa?

>>4359030
>Get the mountaineers to do it, it’s their job after all and 5th company needs rest. It will be done in around 16 hours though as they have some distance to walk and then climb, and our logi trucks are only 5 and will be busy with 5th for the day.
Really love how this quest is going, good work QM.
Also can someone get the Western Powers on the damn phone?
>>4359146
They have no AA or it’s just really outdated. We in the clear.

>>4359141
>>4359142
>>4359146
I think the biggest point was that the current engagement site is towards the edge of their effective range, not so much that they wouldn't be effective in a close air support role. But I could be wrong.

>>Get the mountaineers to do it, it’s their job after all and 5th company needs rest. It will be done in around 16 hours though as they have some distance to walk and then climb, and our logi trucks are only 5 and will be busy with 5th for the day.
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Two rolls of 6 for night phase

Rolled 2 (1d6)

>>4359275

Rolled 3 (1d6)

>>4359275

No enemy actions were observed, or felt, during the night. At daybreak, recon flights showed us their tanks repositioning right north of Corazol. First battalion on Hill 135 reported distant movement east to west, presumed to be two companies. Our mountain company is in position to climb up and take the ridgeline.

While we await a significant development, we should see who we get first on the line to send support. As we are not in a … well, all out conflict, asking directly for boots on the ground might not go well, or if it does, it will trigger a certain, overreaction from the eastern bloc.

>France: They have been here, done that. Might be tired from Algeria, Indochina and the occasional mop up in African colonies, but they are the only ones with a big economic interest here, the mining makes them and us money, and it makes them more. As some of what we earn goes into French rifles.

>Britain: They were late for the party in round one, but did provide us with exceptional information, such as the cargo shipment of T-34 tanks that had us end the fighting in the best possible time for us. They still have a lot of naval bases left and right and their forces will get here soon, problem is convincing them to do so as we replaced them as our main supplier.

>USA: After they lost Cuba to the communists, they probably really do not want to give them an “Atlantic Midway”. Not that we are so further in the ocean, quite the opposite, but Bagango is the closest red port to Cuba as of now. A USN carrier task force can be dispatched easily, and if push comes to shove, 6th fleet is based in the Mediterranean and can lend a hand if things go ugly. We could easily score some material aid, but convincing president Kennedy to send the marines … that is going to be tough.

>Spain: Franco is still around and he still despises communists. Would likely be easy convincing him to send a battalion of well armed infantrymen, but knowing their capabilities, it’s going to take them two weeks to assemble a force and a few more days until it gets here.

>Portugal: Now recently with UNITA shooting their policemen in Angola and PAIGC in Guinea (both communist leaning independence fighters), they might want to have a safer West African coastal region. Getting them onboard to send help will not be difficult, but we got no clue what are their current capabilities, minding the fact they are beefing up their colonial garrisons expecting an Indochina scale war.

>>4359541
>>USA: After they lost Cuba to the communists, they probably really do not want to give them an “Atlantic Midway”. Not that we are so further in the ocean, quite the opposite, but Bagango is the closest red port to Cuba as of now. A USN carrier task force can be dispatched easily, and if push comes to shove, 6th fleet is based in the Mediterranean and can lend a hand if things go ugly. We could easily score some material aid, but convincing president Kennedy to send the marines … that is going to be tough.
Free stuff pls. We really don't need boots on the ground, we just need that free shit

>>Spain: Franco is still around and he still despises communists. Would likely be easy convincing him to send a battalion of well armed infantrymen, but knowing their capabilities, it’s going to take them two weeks to assemble a force and a few more days until it gets here.


This should prevent a Soviet overreaction, while giving us a nice military help.

>>4359541
>USA: After they lost Cuba to the communists, they probably really do not want to give them an “Atlantic Midway”. Not that we are so further in the ocean, quite the opposite, but Bagango is the closest red port to Cuba as of now. A USN carrier task force can be dispatched easily, and if push comes to shove, 6th fleet is based in the Mediterranean and can lend a hand if things go ugly. We could easily score some material aid, but convincing president Kennedy to send the marines … that is going to be tough.
We just need to upgrade our infantry weapons and we got this.

>>4359541
>USA: After they lost Cuba to the communists, they probably really do not want to give them an “Atlantic Midway”. Not that we are so further in the ocean, quite the opposite, but Bagango is the closest red port to Cuba as of now. A USN carrier task force can be dispatched easily, and if push comes to shove, 6th fleet is based in the Mediterranean and can lend a hand if things go ugly. We could easily score some material aid, but convincing president Kennedy to send the marines … that is going to be tough.


M16s pls

>>4359541
>France: They have been here, done that. Might be tired from Algeria, Indochina and the occasional mop up in African colonies, but they are the only ones with a big economic interest here, the mining makes them and us money, and it makes them more. As some of what we earn goes into French rifles.

Remember guys we need to keep our equipment standardized.

>>4359550
Supporting

>>4359580
I had an idea, instead of Marines, what if we ask for an engineer unit to build us an airfield? Keep USA casualties out and still helps us a lot. Or we could ask for a logistical unit to help us. They wouldn't help us at the front but they would be more likely to come.

>>4359541
>>Britain: They were late for the party in round one, but did provide us with exceptional information, such as the cargo shipment of T-34 tanks that had us end the fighting in the best possible time for us. They still have a lot of naval bases left and right and their forces will get here soon, problem is convincing them to do so as we replaced them as our main supplier.
We'll buy up enough of their FAL's in 7,62 for our entire army!

>>4359541
>>USA: After they lost Cuba to the communists, they probably really do not want to give them an “Atlantic Midway”. Not that we are so further in the ocean, quite the opposite, but Bagango is the closest red port to Cuba as of now. A USN carrier task force can be dispatched easily, and if push comes to shove, 6th fleet is based in the Mediterranean and can lend a hand if things go ugly. We could easily score some material aid, but convincing president Kennedy to send the marines … that is going to be tough.

>>4359568
The french are still using the MAS 49 and will be until 79 Id rather have a rifle that was made post WW2 for our infantry

>France: They have been here, done that. Might be tired from Algeria, Indochina and the occasional mop up in African colonies, but they are the only ones with a big economic interest here, the mining makes them and us money, and it makes them more. As some of what we earn goes into French rifles.

Looks like USA.
Most want materiel aid so I will have that in mind.

Two rolls of 6 to see how talks go.

Rolled 3 (1d6)

>>4360545

Rolled 2 (1d6)

>>4360545

>>4360547
>>4360561

The United States secretary of defense Mr. McNamara is of course willing to provide us with everything we need. But he is of course railroaded into playing along with President Kennedy who does not want to stir up more trouble after the Cuban missile crisis.

The Americans advised us that the stockpile of aircraft ordinance we have is rather small relative to the number of planes we have (according to USA standards). Same goes for the amount of transport trucks for logistical purposes. As of now they are willing to grant us a free shipment that will arrive in a week, but sending even non-combat personnel is out of the question in the current situation. We can request one of the following:

>Aircraft ordinance in the form of HVAR rockets, 250lb bombs we already have, and the real big 1000lb bombs the F-84’s can carry.

>Logistical assistance in the form of 25 trucks.

>Four more M114 howitzers with the appropriate amount of shells and trucks to tow them

All options will come with some extra M2 machine guns and some M20 Super Bazookas, as they have quite a big stockpile of them considering they were phased out in favor of the M72 LAW.

>>4360581
>>Logistical assistance in the form of 25 trucks.

>>4360581
>>Aircraft ordinance in the form of HVAR rockets, 250lb bombs we already have, and the real big 1000lb bombs the F-84’s can carry.

Big bomb good

>>4360581
>Aircraft ordinance in the form of HVAR rockets, 250lb bombs we already have, and the real big 1000lb bombs the F-84’s can carry.
Literally fuck the PRS with bombs

>>4360581

Give me the big bombs. Commie regional hq gonna get a nice airstrike for breakfast.

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We have confirmed our request for aircraft ordinance. It should arrive after seven days. Hopefully we will not expend all we have in this time frame.
In the meantime, our mountain company has occupied the ridgeline on their side, two enemy companies are moving along the border to the west, likely with an intent to counter us.
First battalion should stay where it is on Hill 135, orders courtesy of the president himself. We have three general courses of action:

>The mountain and 5th companies can hold their own versus two of theirs, with air cover of course. Do not escalate with bringing more forces.

>Get the 2nd Battalion with the big guns up there, securing more of the ridgeline will be our priority, maybe even get the tanks to provide fire support from the plain.

>We have a foothold already, shift the focus to Corazol and start skirmishing with 3rd and 4th Battalion. Tanks will secure their left flank, according to how it goes, we can involve the regiment for an assault.

>>4360752
>The mountain and 5th companies can hold their own versus two of theirs, with air cover of course. Do not escalate with bringing more forces.
Our mountaineers will do better than them in this terrain, stay on the defensive and bomb them to hell.

>>4360752
>The mountain and 5th companies can hold their own versus two of theirs, with air cover of course. Do not escalate with bringing more forces.
Our troops should engage the enemy second company and bomb them. Their line is spread so thin it's free real estate

>>4360752
>>The mountain and 5th companies can hold their own versus two of theirs, with air cover of course. Do not escalate with bringing more forces.

Lets bait them into a hasty attack.

>>4360752
>>We have a foothold already, shift the focus to Corazol and start skirmishing with 3rd and 4th Battalion. Tanks will secure their left flank, according to how it goes, we can involve the regiment for an assault.

lets go boys

>>4360854
We're short on bombs, we should at least wait until the American supply arrives. We keep fighting in the north, every commie we kill there is one less defender at Crazol.

>>4360854
I don't think it is a good idea to just push right at Corazol. If we are able to defeat their support/units at their flanks, we could try to surround them and destroy all of them right there.

>>4360859
>>4360857

yeah yall'd've probably right

>>4360752
>The mountain and 5th companies can hold their own versus two of theirs, with air cover of course. Do not escalate with bringing more forces.

>>4360752
>The mountain and 5th companies can hold their own versus two of theirs, with air cover of course. Do not escalate with bringing more forces.

If possible perhaps we can specify to use only limited bombs/rockets and to mainly use machine guns/cannons for strafing? Also we can get the spitfires involved for this purpose

>>4360752
>>The mountain and 5th companies can hold their own versus two of theirs, with air cover of course. Do not escalate with bringing more forces.
What kind of defenses can our troops deploy?

>>4361125
>>4360904
>>4360875
>>4360836
>>4360824
>>4360759

Two rolls of 6

Rolled 4 (1d6)

>>4361212

Rolled 3 (1d6)

>>4361212

>>4360904
I agree with this, we should also set aside 50 bombs and rockets for the T34S/85s

>>4361223
>>4361228

The expected attack against our forces in the far-northwestern sector did not come. One company took position on the ridgeline against our mountaineers, other took position to the east. Our air wings did some flyovers but their forces were not concentrated while moving and decided not to waste ordinance.

Looks like the PRS is not planning on attacking today, maybe when their regiment is relocated to the south they will make some more aggressive moves. As of now, we are stagnated on the front.

>Second battalion should move north and start hitting the ridgeline with those 155mm guns. We won’t hand them over the initiative so easily.

>Better not to rush things, our positions are favorable. We sit and wait for a day or two, see what happens.

>Other, write in…

>>4362054
>Second battalion should move north and start hitting the ridgeline with those 155mm guns. We won’t hand them over the initiative so easily.
Don’t surrender the initiative

>>4362054
>Second battalion should move north and start hitting the ridgeline with those 155mm guns. We won’t hand them over the initiative so easily.

>>4362054
>Second battalion should move north and start hitting the ridgeline with those 155mm guns. We won’t hand them over the initiative so easily.

>>4362071
>>4362073
>>4362122

Second battalion will be in position the morning of the 6th (in 16 hours). They have some distance to walk as only the howitzer element is motorized. They will receive air recon cover in case something threatens them in the process. The Spitfires will be doing that, while the F-84 are on standby to hit selected targets in the meantime. Which ones?

>The tank formation. They do have AA cover, but the pilots can practice their high-altitude drop accuracy with the bombs to not get low and direct into the AA firing line.

>Hunt for vehicles on the road between Obregan and Everon. If they hit some trucks, their first regiment will be redeployed slower and at less strength.

>The hills northeast of Corazol will be the target. They have a battalion set up there, slightly dug in but with no means to defend themselves other than small arms.

Bombing the ridgeline is not recommended as the ordinance can be better used on flatter ground with less cover, plus the howitzers are on the way. Bombing Corazol blindly, will be a PR nightmare, last thing we need is pictures of destroyed houses and dead children on world’s newspapers front pages.

>>4362156
>The tank formation. They do have AA cover, but the pilots can practice their high-altitude drop accuracy with the bombs to not get low and direct into the AA firing line.
The more tanks that are destroyed the better

>>4362156
>>The tank formation. They do have AA cover, but the pilots can practice their high-altitude drop accuracy with the bombs to not get low and direct into the AA firing line.

>>4362156
>The tank formation. They do have AA cover, but the pilots can practice their high-altitude drop accuracy with the bombs to not get low and direct into the AA firing line.

Also, can we send the trainer planes to the North West to scout/hunt for the Katyushas? If they find them they can destroy them and it'd be ideal to not even let them fire.

>>4362208
Supported.

>>4362208
When did they get katyushas?

>>4362259
>>4336023

BM-13's are Katyushas

>>4362156

>Hunt for vehicles on the road between Obregan and Everon. If they hit some trucks, their first regiment will be redeployed slower and at less strength.

low risk and fucks up their morale. They will start to die before shooting a single bullet.

>>4362156
>>Hunt for vehicles on the road between Obregan and Everon. If they hit some trucks, their first regiment will be redeployed slower and at less strength.

I am for low risk manueveurs. Our planes are too important, that we risk them to get a few tanks.

>>4362159
>>4362172
>>4362208

The F-84's perform two sorties, dropping total of 20 bombs from 1000 meters at near maximum speed. Their AA did detect and fire on them both times, but scored no hits.
Due the high altitude and ground fire, the pilots could not report on the damage done.

Three rolls of 6 for the next day events.

Rolled 4 (1d6)

>>4362375
Good practice

Rolled 2 (1d6)

>>4362375

Rolled 2 (1d6)

>>4362375

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>>4362377
>>4362381
>>4362401

August 6th, Morning

Our 2nd Battalion is in position to begin shelling the ridgeline the PRS forces occupy.

In the meantime to the south ... the PRS tank formation has parked 3km out of Hill 135, outside the range of the AT guns.
Air recon confirms the redeployment of their regiment to the border area.

We still have not received any pieces of foreign intelligence reports or analysis. We have to do with what we know, which is not much.
Air targets for today?

>Tanks get the bombs again. This time our forces on Hill 135 can report on the damage (presumably).

>That regiment is a threat, soften it up with some full loads of rockets and bombs.
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Ground orders:

>We are good as it is, they still have not done something too bold.

>Send the tanks southeast of Hill 135, to counter an possible (and probably unlikely) swivel of their tanks west around us.

>Send the mechanized battalion south of Hill 135 to plug the hole we got in the lines. Just be wary we do not have AT weapons for them (yet).

>>4362425
>That regiment is a threat, soften it up with some full loads of rockets and bombs.
>We are good as it is, they still have not done something too bold.
As long as we control the air we will pummel them with bombs so they cannot commit to any offensive actions

>>4362425
>Tanks get the bombs again. This time our forces on Hill 135 can report on the damage (presumably).
>Send the tanks southeast of Hill 135, to counter an possible (and probably unlikely) swivel of their tanks west around us.

Once we kill the tanks they don't have much to stop us

>>4362425

>Tanks get the bombs again. This time our forces on Hill 135 can report on the damage (presumably).

Can we send the mountain company and 5th company north in order to try cut Mataredo off from thr rest of the PRS?

>>4362442
>Can we send the mountain company and 5th company north in order to try cut Mataredo off from thr rest of the PRS?


The question here is not "Can we" but "Should we".

>>4362457
only the green tiles are farmland correct?

>>4362425
>Tanks get the bombs again. This time our forces on Hill 135 can report on the damage (presumably).


>Send the tanks southeast of Hill 135, to counter an possible (and probably unlikely) swivel of their tanks west around us.

Also
>Send the mechanized unit to be just south of where our tanks are headed.
>Have the spitfires scout into enemy territory looking for the BM-13 Katyushas, if they find them, report their position and destroy them

>>4362442
>>4362457

I vote we feint north towards Mataredo then push Corazol when they move up to counter.

>>4362425
>Send the tanks southeast of Hill 135, to counter an possible (and probably unlikely) swivel of their tanks west around us.
I believe this puts our tanks in a threatening position, since they can pivot to go to Corazol and attack the north at the same time.
>Tanks get the bombs again. This time our forces on Hill 135 can report on the damage (presumably).

>>4362425
>>Tanks get the bombs again. This time our forces on Hill 135 can report on the damage (presumably).
>>We are good as it is, they still have not done something too bold.

Action path:
>Send the tanks southeast of Hill 135, to counter an possible (and probably unlikely) swivel of their tanks west around us.

>Tanks get the bombs again. This time our forces on Hill 135 can report on the damage (presumably).

One roll of 6, two rolls of 20

Rolled 1 (1d6)

>>4362546

Rolled 5 (1d6)

>>4362546
Which rolls are for what?

Rolled 10 (1d20)

>>4362546

Rolled 13 (1d20)

>>4362546

I feel like us rolling for the PRS is fucking us over.

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>>4362563
>>4362582
>>4362589

The PRS does not respond to our maneuvers initially. Their tanks remain at their position and begin shelling Hill 135.

Our planes hit them again, they report "better" accuracy on the drop, but the ground teams can not make out did they actually do something or not.

The T-34's continue shelling the hill until they get the notice our tanks are heading to their general area. Then they fall back few kilometres in their sector. Their shelling of the Hill was ineficcient and we suffered no casualties.

We could go for a tank engagement today, but we will be the ones attacking.

>Do it, attack their tanks before nightfall.
>Nope, wait it out, we should act tomorrow when we have a full day available.

>>4363982
>Nope, wait it out, we should act tomorrow when we have a full day available.

>>4363982
>Nope, wait it out, we should act tomorrow when we have a full day available.

>Move the Regiment one tile North
>Move the Mechanized Battalion one tile West of our Armor.
>Hunt for their BM-13 Katyushas with our Spitfires, engage if found.

Are we limited to one unit action per "turn"? Why not move/do multiple things?

>>4363997
>Are we limited to one unit action per "turn"?

In general, not really. In those circumstances where its still not an "all out" conflict, more or less yeah one/two units at a time.

>>4363982
>>Do it, attack their tanks before nightfall.

It is a risky manuever. 50% we win, 50% they win. But this is also leads to a material battle, which we should win. We also need to gain ground, otherwise we will never take the fortified city Corazol.

>>4364254
During the daytime our air support is far more effective.

>>4364272

This

>>4363982

Wait it out

>>4363982
>Nope, wait it out, we should act tomorrow when we have a full day available.

>>4364391
>>4363997
>>4363990

One roll of 20!

Rolled 18 (1d20)

>>4364469

>>4364470

God I love the smell of dead communists in the morning

>>4364487
I hope it wasn't a PRS surprise attack/arty

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>>4364487

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>>4364501
It was, but roll was ours
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During the night, the PRS regiment attempted to close in the distance to our tank formation and take the vehicles close range. It did not work, our forward motorized squad detected the movement, alerted the unit, skirmished for 10 minutes and evacuated the sector.

In the morning its clear the regiment kept the taken ground, maybe preparing to assault the hill. We took no losses in the night maneuvers.

>Start softening the infantry with the tank guns from afar. Call in the planes on them too for increased effect.

>Do a daring move flanking the regiment and hitting their tanks from south east. Planes will continue hitting the tank formation, hoping they finally score something.
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North-west sector options.

>We are good as of now, keep firing the occasional 155mm shell at the ridgeline

>Get the mountain company to skirmish with their forces, if it goes well, we can try forcing a full attack later today or the 8th.

>Mountain company stays where it is, 5th will advance north up the mountain and down south west of Mataredo. The Fairmile boats will be called in to provide supply runs as the mountain blocks the trucks from dropping any supply.

>>4364513
>Do a daring move flanking the regiment and hitting their tanks from south east. Planes will continue hitting the tank formation, hoping they finally score something.
>Have the Mechanized Battalion attack from the South West of the Regiment as well

>Get the mountain company to skirmish with their forces, if it goes well, we can try forcing a full attack later today or the 8th.

>>4364519
But if we're "not allowed" to move two units at the same time, then
>Start softening the infantry with the tank guns from afar. Call in the planes on them too for increased effect.

>>4364513
>Do a daring move flanking the regiment and hitting their tanks from south east. Planes will continue hitting the tank formation, hoping they finally score something.


>Mountain company stays where it is, 5th will advance north up the mountain and down south west of Mataredo. The Fairmile boats will be called in to provide supply runs as the mountain blocks the trucks from dropping any supply.

>>4364513
>Do a daring move flanking the regiment and hitting their tanks from south east. Planes will continue hitting the tank formation, hoping they finally score something.
>Get the mountain company to skirmish with their forces, if it goes well, we can try forcing a full attack later today or the 8th.

>>4364513
>Start softening the infantry with the tank guns from afar. Call in the planes on them too for increased effect.
>Get the mountain company to skirmish with their forces, if it goes well, we can try forcing a full attack later today or the 8th.

>>4364513
>>Do a daring move flanking the regiment and hitting their tanks from south east. Planes will continue hitting the tank formation, hoping they finally score something.
>>Mountain company stays where it is, 5th will advance north up the mountain and down south west of Mataredo. The Fairmile boats will be called in to provide supply runs as the mountain blocks the trucks from dropping any supply.

Action path:
1.Daring tank attack
2.Mountain skirmish.
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>>4364522
>>4364519

Sure, anons, vote if you want the mech batt. to involve itself too by tangling with the enemy regiment.

>>4364539
sure, skirmish the enemy regiment down a bit

>>4364546
Ok, they will be involved.

Four rolls of 20

Rolled 7 (1d20)

>>4364642

Rolled 2 (1d20)

>>4364642

>>4364643
>>4364649
oh no

>>4364642


>>4364642
Dice+1d20

>>4364653
put it in the Options part also small d

Rolled 12 (1d20)

>>4364642

Rolled 9 (1d20)

>>4364642

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I have a proposal, we should move the units as in the picture. 1st regiment and 1 battalion can bombard enemy regiment. During the daytime, the air support can target enemy artillery, with priority given to the enemy armor when they start moving around . The infantry has pretty far to move so I don't recommend a full attack.

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>>4364727

partly agree.
attack the plains, sure, and divert forces there.
but putting units under 3 tiles of enemy held mountainous high ground is just asking for mass casualties by artillery and other undesirable consequences.

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The PRS opens up with another barrage from their tanks on Hill 135. Again, not very effective. Their regiment seems to ignore our tanks moving in behind them and attacks our battalion on the hilltop. Despite their numerical advantage and superior small arms /and mortars/, they are beaten back swiftly from heavy suppressive fire from HMG’s and the obsolete 6-pdr guns. The action in that sector ends even before noon, we take light casualties that can easily be replaced by the end of day, something like 5 killed and 5 wounded. The PRS regiment is presumed to have lost at least a squad killed.
(From initial rolls of 7 and 2)

Skirmishing in the northwest ridgeline begins shortly, our mountaineers do not face difficulties closing the distance to the enemy company to 500 meters, which company is forced to sit on the north side of the ridgeline most of the time to avoid the occasional barrages we throw at them. The big guns work great in mountain areas despite the area providing a lot of cover, problem for them is that the same rock cover tends to shatter into small rock fragments flying everywhere inflicting various injuries.
The report of our company is that they can safely close the distance to them and attack them from close range, problem is that this puts the enemy in a superior position due to having assault rifles and better machine guns.
(From roll of 12, no casualties)

By the time our mechanized battalion arrived south east of the enemy regiment, fighting at Hill 135 had stopped and strong attempts to dislodge them were not made.
By the same time our tanks are within few kilometers from theirs, one bombing run was made by the F-84’s, with unknown effect.
(From roll of 9, our tanks were not intercepted by … anything)

Now a tank engagement is sure to occur, we can specify some tactics…

>Keep your distance at around 1500-2000 meters, we can both take out our vehicles at that range but our long range accuracy is better, that does not mean we are guaranteed hits though.

>We are feeling luckly, close down to 1000 meters, our rate of fire is also better due to the lower caliber used, but they still have 3 more armored vehicles.

>They know we are coming. Sit at 3000 meters and wait for them to attack … if they attack at all.

>>4365436
>Keep your distance at around 1500-2000 meters, we can both take out our vehicles at that range but our long range accuracy is better, that does not mean we are guaranteed hits though.

Combine with air power if we can

>>4365436
>>Keep your distance at around 1500-2000 meters, we can both take out our vehicles at that range but our long range accuracy is better, that does not mean we are guaranteed hits though.

Lets use our advantages.

>>4365436
>Keep your distance at around 1500-2000 meters, we can both take out our vehicles at that range but our long range accuracy is better, that does not mean we are guaranteed hits though.

>>4365436
>Keep your distance at around 1500-2000 meters, we can both take out our vehicles at that range but our long range accuracy is better, that does not mean we are guaranteed hits though.

>>4365481
>>4365458
>>4365453
>>4365440

Two rolls of 20.

Rolled 5 (1d20)

>>4365534

Rolled 18 (1d20)

>>4365534

Rolled 17 (1d20)

>>4365534

>>4365535
>>4365536

When our tanks begin closing in the range, they respond with some HE ranging shots. They let three volleys out and start repositioning. Despite our superior visibility from the open top M18 Hellcats, our opening shots were inaccurate. Few exchanges later, applying the “shoot and scoot” American tactics, our forces successfully close down the range to ~1500 meters and start zeroing in shots.

Enemy side had the advantage of being stationary the whole time and score some hits despite the poor visibility. One of our Hellcats was destroyed and a Comet tank immobilized…
(From our roll of 5 and theirs of 18)

Opening phase done, two more rolls of 20.
(You have the option of calling a retreat.)

Rolled 8 (1d20)

>>4365560

Rolled 16 (1d20)

>>4365560

>>4365560
Now that we're in range to see them properly, how many T34's are there? (Asking to see how many our bombs killed)

>>4365568
>>4365574

After a few misses, our Comet tanks score a certain hit on one T-34 tank, igniting is fuel. Our Hellcats fire some smoke shells to disrupt visibility in their formation which works for a few minutes, the Comet tanks score another kill using the HVAP ammunition. When the smoke dissipates, the PRS tanks open up again on our formation. The Hellcats were the closest targets, and they succumb to the concentrated fire. Both remaining are destroyed…

Then the T-34’s start falling back and then move south, not wanting to keep up the long range fight. During the retreat a T-34 was immobilized. Their formation managed to get away going full speed south. Now we need to decide what to do…

>We have a Comet tank immobilized, we can call in the engineers to fix it up as there is a clear passage now from the northwest. Will likely take between 24 and 48 hours. We stay and defend the assets.

>Until we are done with repairs there might not be a tank formation left, ditch the tank and move.

(More detailed plans of action will follow right after, this is just the general direction)
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>>4365603
Initially, all of them ... bombs didnt do shit besides (probably) messing up some support personnel.

>>4365608
>>We have a Comet tank immobilized, we can call in the engineers to fix it up as there is a clear passage now from the northwest. Will likely take between 24 and 48 hours. We stay and defend the assets.

>>4365608
>>We have a Comet tank immobilized, we can call in the engineers to fix it up as there is a clear passage now from the northwest. Will likely take between 24 and 48 hours. We stay and defend the assets.

>>4365608
>Until we are done with repairs there might not be a tank formation left, ditch the tank and move.
We can move up motorized infantry to help the tanks.

>>4365694
+1

>>4365608
Why the hell were the tank destroyers up FRONT?

And their Tanks don't have room to the south to move (>>4365436) unless the regiment moved South or South East, which your report included no mention of.

>>4365758
Units can move over one another, it was implied at the >>4364513


>Mountain company stays where it is, 5th will advance north up the mountain and down south west of Mataredo. "

Due to their high roll, figured it was acceptable.
In 1963 we can hardy call the M18 a "tank destroyer", they were up front used as scouting vehicles due to the great mobility and visibility compared to other WW2 era AFV's.

>>4365766
aren't the enemy using t-34s? isn't a hellcat good enough to deal with that?

>>4365770
Yeah it was good enough ... too bad their roll was 16, what more do I say.

>>4365766
>>4336227

You described them as Tank Destroyers, and they aren't exactly facing modern tanks either, and even if they ARE outdated, the vehicle's class does not change simply because time does. So I think the description of Tank Destroyer is apt. Idk why they couldn't be brought to the back of the formation once the enemy had been sighted, but I guess it's over now.

>>4365774
I feel like basing combat encounters where certain equipment counters other equipment, especially at range, on pure d20 rolls with no modifiers might not be accurate.