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I need 7d6 for each of the 7 resources on this list, with our base modifiers being:

Defence: -5
Influence: -5
Lands: +5
Law: 0
Population: +10
Power: 0
Wealth: +5

>>4389755
What is this?
A list for ants?

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huh.. weird

Rolled 5, 4, 3, 1, 5, 1, 5 = 24 (7d6)

>>4389755

Rolled 6, 3, 4, 5, 1, 3, 5 = 27 (7d6)

>>4389759
Influence

Rolled 2, 2, 2, 2, 3, 4, 1 = 16 (7d6)

>>4389755

Rolled 5, 3, 3, 2, 3, 4, 1 = 21 (7d6)

>>4389755
Lands

Can I get just a few more?

>>4389766
I'll not count this one for now

Rolled 3, 5, 2, 4, 6, 3, 4 = 27 (7d6)

>>4389755
Law

Rolled 4, 5, 2, 5, 1, 6, 6 = 29 (7d6)

>>4389755
Population

Rolled 1, 3, 3, 2, 4, 3, 4 = 20 (7d6)

>>4389755
...
Power.

Rolled 3, 5, 5, 2, 4, 2, 4 = 25 (7d6)

>>4389789
If you don't mind repeats, here's one for wealth

I meant no more dices from the same ID so more people gets to roll

Rolled 3, 3, 3, 5, 5, 1, 5 = 25 (7d6)

>>4389755

Alright to speed this up

>>4389823
I'll take this one for law

>>4389766
Population

>>4389792
Power

>>4389815
Wealth

That ends up with

Defence: 19
Influence: 22
Lands: 21
Law: 25
Population: 31
Power: 27
Wealth: 30

Now 1d6 for house events

I had an idea to make the MC a bastard or legitimized

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house founding sorry! not house events!

Rolled 2, 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 3 = 14 (7d6)

>>4389755

Rolled 2 (1d6)

>>4389866

>>4389867
too late, now we need 1d6 to know when the house started

Alright! so the house is very very old! now I need another 1d6

>>4389883
If you don't mind.

>>4389888
checked, go ahead

Rolled 4 (1d6)

>>4389895
Thanks

Alright so we have 6 events for this table
>>4389862

More dices, 6 3d6

Rolled 3, 6, 5 = 14 (3d6)

>>4389907

Rolled 1, 4, 2 = 7 (3d6)

>>4389907

Rolled 1, 5, 1 = 7 (3d6)

>>4389907

>>4389911
>>4389923
Hilariously appropriate for the Riverlands.

So Andals arrived, managed to snatch a victory and settle down then came a long period of invasions and revolts

Rolled 3, 3, 6 = 12 (3d6)

I'll take repeated dices but new ones have priority

Rolled 4, 6, 5 = 15 (3d6)

>>4389907

Alright one more

Rolled 2, 2, 3 = 7 (3d6)

>>4389907

Alright, we still have one repeated dice if someone else wants to show up and roll, go ahead. If not we are looking at

Victory, Invasion/Revolt, Invasion/Revolt, villain, invasion, ascent

Jeez.. the house pretty much spent his time fighting for power as soon as it became one

Aright, let's start with Victory then 3d6, first comes first served for events.
Once again, we are looking at this table now
>>4389862

Rolled 3, 6, 1 = 10 (3d6)

>>4389907

next is invasion/revolt 5d6

Rolled 5, 6, 1, 6, 4 = 22 (5d6)

Can we please be a house that supported the Blackfyre's during the rebellions? Pretty pls...

>>4390020
I'd be interesting and it would explain we have a lot of invasions and revolts

Now another 5d6 please

Rolled 6, 3, 4, 5, 3 = 21 (5d6)

>>4390025

Now 4d6

>>4390061

Rolled 1, 5, 1, 2 = 9 (4d6)

>>4390061

Another 5d6

Rolled 5, 4, 5, 6, 1 = 21 (5d6)

Alright! Last roll! One 4d6 and I'll add everything up

Rolled 3, 4, 5, 4 = 16 (4d6)

>>4390103

>>4390103
Hey I've never done a ASOIFquest but have been thinking about doing one for a while, do you maybe want to "team up" and share universes as like rival houses? Your quest house and my quest house going against or working with each other would be dope <3 :)

>>4390105
thanks! Alright, now I gotta add everything up, one moment please

>>4390106
I've never done anything like it either, but sure maybe we can work something out, I think pretty much all the others qm that run do stuff like that

If my math doesn't fail me.. hopefully, we are looking at this

Defence: 22
Influence: 31
Lands: 25
Law: 0
Population: 20
Power: 18
Wealth: 26

Our numbers are looking rough.. which is good! We have some influence on the world, maybe that's our redeeming point, the book says that each player creating the house can roll 1d6 to add at any stat, so how about we do 3.

Roll and don't forget where do say where do you want the dice to go

Rolled 3 (1d6)

>>4390128
Let's get that dismal law up a little

Rolled 6 (1d6)

>>4390128
wealth

it was that bad that we even went into negative numbers, pretty there's no authority on these lands

Rolled 5 (1d6)

>>4390128
Lets gobble up and expand theses lawless (lands)

Defense: 22
Influence: 31
Lands: 30
Law: 3
Population: 20
Power: 18
Wealth: 32

We live in a defensible place, least one fortified town or castle, there are roads maybe rivers or a port. There's enough population for it and a small force of soldiers, nothing special composed of mostly small folk.

Bands of raiders, criminals and bandits roam the land doing as they please.

Despite of all of this, we are also a prosperous minor house that controls enough land to rival house frey, with plenty of wealth to satisfy basic needs and then some enough to still be rich.

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Time to take a look at what do we own, we have 22

you guys can decided between hall or tower, we have a lot of room to grow and expand

>>4390193
Hall

>>4390193
hall

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>>4390208
>>4390234

Hall it is, time for influence, we have 31

>>4390264
First born son and a daughter

>>4390264
>>4390265
Seconded.

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>>4390265
>>4390268

Alright, lands now, we have 30

>>4390323
Can't read that

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>>4390338
sorry my bad!

>>4390349
Plains+small town+grassland+river. That should be 29. Maybe another stream for 30?

>>4390349
>Plains, Hamlet, Grasslands, Roads, River
That's for 24 lands. I don't know if it's the correct format. With 4 more lands in a house fortune roll we can upgrade hamlet to small town?

>>4390359
I don't know if you should depend on our house fortune, we are going to take a hit because of our poor law holdings

>>4390357
I'll go with this for the extra holdings a small town opens up.

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Alright, so we have two choices here

Plains 5, Hamlet 10, Grasslands 1, Roads 5, River 3
Leaving us with 24 lands with 6 to spare

Plains 5, small town 20, grassland 1, river 3 and a small stream
30

I'll give it a little bit more time

Our law gives us a -10 in house fortunes.. yet somehow we have good wealth interesting, no bonus on population just by 1 point

>>4390382
>Plains 5, small town 20, grassland 1, river 3 and a small stream

What year is this taking place?

Oh man I wanted a lake

>>4390403
oh if you want a lake go ahead and make something, I was just checking the options it wasn't a vote.

I think either 279 or 280 AC

>>4390412
Why does everyone pick Bobby B's dragon extermination?

>>4390437
well, it was an interesting period with lots of events and points of interest, there's enough room the do whatever if you are a small house

Plus is an event that completely changes westeros. Sadly I am not a book reader

>>4390443
>Sadly I am not a book reader
Uhhh......

Alright, those two choices are tied, new domains are still accepted.

>>4390446
don't worry I know what I am in for, fear not

Also I am heading off to sleep, tomorrow we should be able to handle the domain, power holdings which I forgot and wealth holdings from out of strife, prosperity and maybe if there is enough people to play MC character creation

>>4390382
>Plains 5, small town 20, grassland 1, river 3 and a small stream
>30

>Plains, Small Town, Grassland, River, Stream

Holy shit our law score is abysmal. Are our lands stuck in between the Brackens and Blackwoods or something?

I know it's really edgy but anyone want to make a house of Assassins or it would be unorthodox but maybe even blacksmith/tinkerers

>>4391061
good idea desu

>>4391096
I was thinking saboteurs because they're cheaper.

Alright, I should be good to continue in a few, also, this is the google drive from house shryke.

It contains the books and out of strife, prosperity plus homebrew holdings if you are curious

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Ot_VGz9iDVmO1neVhGQMOs9h2G9Hd7nb

There's a /sifg/ on /tg/ that may have an anon or two interested in house creation. Up to you whether you want to advertise or not. >>>/tg/74064398

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>>4391188
thanks, I'll let em know

Alright, let's continue then

>Plains, Small Town, Grassland, River, Stream

So, this is going to be our domain,

If you guys want to suggest where our house could be located at I posted the map here >>4390367

Personally I think A or B would make sense, lots of grassland and we can sprinkle a river and a stream.. there's also C, which looking at it fits everything

>>4391255
I vote for A

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Alright then, time to decide power holdings, we have 18

>>4391255
C

>>4391262
Trained garrison (5), veteran cavalry (10). Save the rest for wealth holdings.

>>4391273
Yeah ok I'm fine with these units

>>4391273
Supporting both. As far as I remember Oldstones is an abandoned castle now in ruins, and there's the hideout nearby where the Brotherhood Without Banners executed the Frey guys. Such a suitable base of operations of bandits might explain our literally 0 law score. And a future asset to acquire

I'd personally like more men considering how lawless our lands are.

Trained Garrison - 5
Trained Infantry - 7
Trained Archers - 6

300 men vs 120. I can understand the want for a unit of cavalry but I think more bodies will be more useful to enforce the law

>>4391325
that is true, cavalry has it's benefits being mostly speed but big numbers could prevent any band from trying anything crazy.

I'll give it more time as I read wealth holdings and such

Alright, so trained garrison and veteran cavalry, 3 points spare.

So! Time to spend on wealth, we have 32 points

>>4391144
You can check up here for the out of strife, prosperity and homebrew holdings

Bailiffs for 2 power, 10 wealth
Black market for 10 wealth
Brothels for 5 wealth
Either Tolls or Saboteurs for 5 wealth

Bank the last 2 for play. Torn on the Tolls/Saboteurs. Tolls would bring the wealth gain from house fortunes to a full 1d6, but saboteurs just seem fun.

I'll give it more time

>>4391386
I agree with this but hold off on the saboteurs until we see what we're up against. Tolls sounds good.

Bailiffs for 2 power, 10 wealth
Black market for 10 wealth
Brothels for 5 wealth
Either Tolls for 5 wealth

Leaving us with 2 wealth to spare.

Damn our lands are a rough place to live in.. murderer and bandits roam the lands taking tolls, raiding and pillaging merchants, houses etc.. and inside your keep is no better either, black markets are the main income and tolls on our river

The only law can be found from the small local garrison and the bailiffs who keep the peace within our walls

But what exactly do the black markets buy and sell?
Also any name or banner suggestions?

>>4391445
>What do the black markets buy and sell
Animals poached illegally, weapons to the smallfolk to defend themselves against this lawlessness, also all these bandits have to offload their loot somewhere right? Maybe poisons as well. Also this is the last stop for any boats coming upstream, so anything left unsold at throwaway prices.

>>4391465
So, our black market pretty much works as a fence for pelts.. jewelry.. ornated weapons and armor etc.
Among other curiosities such as the unusual powder or poison

Makes sense, I can work with that.

I was thinking on names.. Silverside like the fish, I am gonna need help with names, I suck at that.

>>4391474
Hey man, just want to let you know that I appreciate you pushing through despite the apparent lack of interest. Unlike the other 2 ASOIAF QMs who abandoned their house creation threads in the last week. Maybe you'll get some more players in a few hours when the Americans get off from work. Also I read on /qtg/ that activity tends to pick up after 100 posts when people see you won't flake. Unlike the other 2 QMs And we've hit that threshold now. As for House name, I suck at it too, lol. Best I can think up is Sterling. So yeah, I'll wait for some other anon's suggestions.

>>4391474
I expected it to just be generally looted shit. So we get a mixed bag of goods kind of thing. Since they could be robbing anyone of note.
This is going to be very interesting that we will be a pretty lawless place.

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>>4391483
thanks, I appreciate it, it's a bit hard but I try not think about it, I feel like is mostly my timezone causing the issue.
Sterling is a good suggestion

Also if anyone wants to help with the banner, I am using this to get push a few quick designs

https://worldspinner.com/heraldry/device_editor/

>>4391483
Agreed. Sorry I've mostly been lurking and busy atm. I just update but I could help vote for things soon.

Also if anyone wants to suggest a location or vote of A B or C, go ahead

>>4391255

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A green river because our lands are close to the green fork?

I'm drawing a blank on a name at the moment though

It can also be related with all the invasions/revolts or maybe the major victory that initiated the house?

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I like this idea. The green in the corner is the Green Fork and the white is our land, symbolizing our location on the banks of the fork. Any ideas for symbols? Do we want Andal or First Man influence?

I like the names of Marsten, Barnell and Kytley from the Chronicle starter, all meant to be Riverland houses. Other than that, maybe something relating to the Green or Blue Fork, depending on the location we choose?

Sorry I missed a lot of discussion, are we still voting on the location? If so I choose A because sea access is good and living so close to ironborn raiders could explain our low law. Also it'd be fun to kill them.

>>4391527
Did we not pick a location? My bad.
The green >>4391526 can be red or blue too then.

>>4391526
Greenbank? Greenspan? (Not the notorious ruiner of the American Economy). House Mudd was deposed from ruling the Riverlands in the Andal Invasion. Muddbane?

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>>4391503
I'm partial to some variation of this. Fish, you mentioned earlier of having an idea for an MC that was a bastard or legitimized bastard. House Erenford isn't far from the proposed starting areas, so the bird fits for a relation there. Typically, inverted heraldry colors and/or a slash of red denotes bastardry. Three birds could mean he was a third son like how the Tyrells add extra flowers for extra sons.

I believe the house is about 300 years old correct? Founded during Aegon's conquest?

Perhaps a bastard of House Erenford helped the Tully's in their support of House Targaryen. Maybe his mother was raped by a Hoare and so he grew up to hate the Ironborn with a passion and joined Tully at the first chance of revolt.

The green is for the Green Fork, the black and red was to show support for House Targaryen by appropriating their colours in the founders new heraldry. Still acknowledging he was a bastard so they're reversed in a Blackfyre-esque manner

>>4391551
House was founded during Andal Invasion. So around the time House Mudd was overthrown and House Justman replaced it.

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>>4391542
Hmm.. I am trying to design something..

>>4391551
We are a bit older than that, Andal Invasion

>>4391532
>>4391533
yup, we haven't chosen a location, I just continued generating the house. A and B would mean we have a history with ironborns possibly

>>4391558
This seems interesting.

Ironbreaker, Ironhammer or Ironbane for repelling the ironmen?

>>4391558
I like it, our house could be an extremist house like house Bolton. I'd be intrested to see a weapon passed down associated with tying up/down our enemies and using a battleaxe heirloom please to chop off a limb and let them bleed out.
But that may be trying to follow to much after the boltons lmk what you guys are interested in.

>>4391577
It could be related to our major victory during the andal invasion, like a throwing net or just tying people up.

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>>4391551
Ran with your color scheme a little.

>>4391584
I was even thinking of using a spear and net combo for fighting. But really limits us "status" wise.
But yeah could be interesting. Could just be our ancestor that fought that way. And earned his lands using nets, during a huge fight and caught a "big fish" that turned the tides of the battle. And we fight with a spear. I get that sword fighting has been the premier choice, but I would want our character to fight with something other than a sword. Its at least something I would vote for.

>>4391591
maybe a trident and a net? since we are in the Riverlands

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not much interested in birds but here's a design

Also we need more name ideas for the house, maybe lord names too

My initial idea was to make one lord leading the house with his wife dying from disease, childbirth, murder etc. Perhaps a history of multiple marriages like Frey? Since our house seems to be very very dark. Just an idea

>>4391596
huh instead of a trident. It could just be a frogspear. And we keep that tradition going. heirloom frogspear. I could rationalize, he got it made as a reward for the family. And the way to form them wasn't so long lost if at all?

>>4391616
I like this

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Alright, I'll post two more design, but we need names and names for the lord, first son and daughter

>>4391665
Which is the MC?

>>4391694
I was thinking the MC could be someone else like a bastard legitimized or not, male. Someone close to the noble family Not really sure how to write from the female perspective

or the first born works aswell

>>4391704
Can't recall ever playing as a bastard before, so that sounds like a fun change of pace.

Threada has been slow... I am starting to think those other dead quests might've fucked me over

We defined lands, wealth and power holdings. But there's a lot in the air still.
For example location two in A one in C, I don't wanna rush things maybe someone has a suggestion but we need to decide.
Next is house names and for the family

Oops meant to close the spoilers

>>4391885
Is the black market locked in?

>>4391900
Yup, all are holdings should be locked, there wasn't a lot of players to vote sadly

>>4391905
Dammit I was asleep

Also you might want to use a different there is another qm that uses Fish as a name

>>4391909
There's still some leftover points >>4391386

Oh really? I'll change it up, my internet is acting up, that's why my ID changed, we will pick it up tomorrow

Feel free to discuss or add anything to the back story, names and location too

>>4391916
what are we waiting on? I didn't think there was anything to decide on? I was just letting it update till we moved on to character creation or names.

Oh hey a quest that finally invested in just a Hall

looking good so far Fish, if you're not comfortable with a perspective or Idea feel free to Veto.

>>4391616
Northern Riverman feuding with Frogmen? Frogspear is an old war trophy?

Frogspears are associated with those living in the Neck who eat lizard lions and frogs. I'd take even a simple sword over that, our reputation is going to be bad enough as it is, no need to do it more. Besides, unless we spend on the 'heirloom' holding (and I recommend we don't) the weapon will be an ordinary one anyway. We can revisit this topic after character creation. We still haven't decided on a name, coat of arms, house words and house history yet.

>>4391999
>Besides, unless we spend on the 'heirloom' holding (and I recommend we don't) the weapon will be an ordinary one anyway

That's exactly the plan, that I want. A Heirloom Frogspear. The one our ancestor used, to fight once he was landed. Either given as a gift, or taken in battle, or made himself once he had the assets and created by a renown blacksmith or the king's blacksmith himself from long ago.

Either way it will be a heirloom weapon with the long history of our house behind it. Status shouldn't be negatively affected by it. If anything more intriguing than anything else. Cause all of our neighbors will have seen our family have it, and most houses would know it's our weapon of choice for the head of the family long before we ever show up. So why would it be ordinary?

>>4392014
Because as he said, frog spears are associated with frog eaters. They're not considered honorable weapons. Why turn one into an heirloom? What's it even made out of for the stat boost? Not Valyrian Steel. Not in a million years. They even look stupid if you look them up. The only reason they get so much attention in house creation threads is because they are the strongest agility weapon option for some dumb reason. I'm fine with using one since we're close to where they are more common, but let's not stretch the lore that hard to justify stat boosts.

>>4392284
Yeah now that you mention it why would a frog spear be made out of Valyrian steel? It is completely unique to the area of the Neck and they're so dirt poor and isolationist that it doesn't make any sense lore-wise for a frog spear to be made out of Valyrian steel.

Anyway, this is all character creation stuff when we haven't finished house creation yet. House name, house words, banner, etc are still left to finalize.

Glad to see this is not dead, but let's redirect the focus back to the backstory of the house, we can think of a heirloom later. It might not be a frogspear, there's plenty of fish and not many frogs

Given that only two people voted on the location A and one in C, I'll go ahead and place us in A.

As for the house names we have some options Silverside, Sterling, I might use the names the ones in the book for something else.

We also need names for the MC, the lord, the heir and the daughter

>>4392384
Im about to head off but here's what I'd like to see

>Victory
Our Family was one of the Andal Nobles that settled in the Riverlands, our Family served under house Teague when they reunited the riverlands and we were rightly rewarded for our services with lands and title.

>Revolt
When the Battle of the six kings put an end to House Teague our house suffered greatly as a result of siding with them and even worse under the boot of the Stormlords

>Villain
I dunno personally maybe something about siding with Harren the black?

>Invasion
During the Dance of Dragons & Blackfrye rebellions we sided with the Blackfryes and suffered for it and would have been destroyed if not for our Ascent

>Ascent
The only reason our house survived was because a member of our House sided with the Targyreans and was rewarded with the holdings and title of lord.

>House name
Silverbank

>MC name
Edward ''Ed''

>Lord name
Hosten

>Daughter name
Serra

I got the skeletons of a story going on, >>4392438 I might grab a few things from things, perhaps one of the few houses to survive the war of the six kings or maybe we came with house Teague to raid when the andals carver the riverlands in several pieces.

if you look at the events, you notice a long period of fights and revolts, maybe the villain put an end to that and soon was faced with another.. Only for there to be a major event managed to put the house at ease, perhaps a marriage with a larger house and a juicy dowry.

Hosten and serra are a good name, either the MC or the heir is Edward

>>4392284
>but let's not stretch the lore that hard to justify stat boosts.
They are common in the area. we are making up our history anyhow. Yeah they look stupid, but fighting with one makes sense if our ancestor was raised due to a great victory where he shouldn't have won at all. It makes all the more sense, and yeah it would be Valaryian steel, or magical bronze or some unknown material, he found and fought with and that what gave him the edge.
Sure they look stupid, but it would have lineage for hundred of years with our noble house anyhow. It comes down to following our family's tradition to continue using it.
At the end of the day, if you don't like it vote against it. I know what I want and will push for. Majority rules, if i don't get my way it is what it is.

>>4392750

"I want the frog spear and I'm going to keep talking about how much I want it!"
2h spec please anything but frog spear

I am not adding any weapons for now
Anyways we got three house names Sterling, Silverbank, Silverside, if anyone wants to add one feel free if not please vote on these choices
Hosten and Serra are valid for the lord and the daughter, unless anyone has a complain I'll go with this

The heir can be named Edward or the MC.

>>4392823
>Silverbank

>Sterling
>Silverbank
>Silverside
>write in

>>4392808
meh it is what it is.
I want to see how our character creation rolls. Is he a coniving little shit, i'll go agilty based, fight me head on. I am fine going boar spear, Especially with us likely leading our Calvary.
>>4392828
>>Silverbank

Edwald Silverbank, the heir to Silverbank.

Also pls no frog spear. The odds of a weapon made of wood and stone being around after potentially 2 thousand years is minimal. And they arn't weapons that most people would use outside of the Neck. Look at how the Walders talk about them. I feel that would be how most Riverlanders feel about their northern neighbors

>>4392808
Seconding the Zweihander

Also there's an heir AND there's the MC since no one really complained I am planning on making him somesort of legitimized bastard

>>4392840
>Seconding the Zweihander
I really just want to move away from swords, is my thing. I feel like it's over played. On the board we created a character with a polearm, only for him to gain a long sword heirloom item. And lets be honest, you roll with the punches.
I'd be happy with a boar spear or a frog spear. We could lore the spear up as being made of valayrian steel & weirwood, or enchanted wood from the days of old found in blah blah.
>>4392856
Interesting, so we will be made heir over the "natural" born son?

>>4392864
Something like that, the legitimized thing has a small twist on it

Silverbank it is

One last thing, name for the heir AND the mc.

Who is Edward?

>MC
>Heir

>>4392895
>>MC

>>4392895
>MC

Maybe make the heir a Walder. We're close enough to that lot.

>>4392895
>>MC

Edward Silverbank

We have a lot of options for the heraldry, take a look at them while also thinking a name for the castle

>>4391491
>>4391503
>>4391558
>>4391589
>>4391613
>>4391665
>>4391667

>>4392952
I still like this one. So i guess I would vote for that.
>>4391558
As for the name is there anything around our hall like the stream runs by it or something? In what domain is it in?
So we only have 1 domain, is that correct? or is it two 1 plains and 1 grassland?

>>4392972
We hold one domain, plains surrounded by grasslands a river and small streams.

On the plains there's a small town within it you can find a large hall where the noble stay and conduct business.

Around the town you can find the main brothel with smaller ones around the outskirts.
There used to be a marketplace but now that got turned into a black market for thieves and criminals looking to turn their goods into money

>>4392952
Silverhall would be fine. Simple and to the point. The silver names could be a reference to the incomes the town brings in. As for heraldries... I guess I don't have much of an opinion at the moment. Any of those are fine with me. If someone has an alternate suggestion, then I can pull out my laptop and work something up with the software I have. Kind of tempted to work a silver color into something if that's going to be a theme. Also, the MC could have a different coat of arms if he wants to. That's fairly common. Maybe it would be best to move on to character stuff since that seems to be a popular point of discussion? Just a suggestion.

Sorry for the slow updates, we can pick it up tomorrow with the character creation.

I was thinking on making the mc adult, we'll get into details tomorrow, off to bed

>>4392468
I like the idea we've basically had the shit end of the stick since we got landed, between the Stormlords ruling the riverlands Ironborn raiders and what is a fairly isolated position from >>4391255 it makes sense that up until the Targs uniting the seven kingdoms we were right shat upon, it was just shit choices that basically fucked us during the dance and subsequent rebellions and one really good decision that allowed for us to ascend, on that note actually prehaps our Ascent is due to an advantageous marriage to a Frey or the Seagard house?

as for the Villian I'm of two minds one he could be half an Ironborn raiding and pillaging under the Ironborn as someone who paid the ironprice or he could be one salty Knight who REALLY REALLY hates Ironborn or Crannogmen.

as for the whole Heirloom/Frogspear thing I think Heirlooms are overdown and I can't imagine with how shit upon we are that we would have managed to hold onto one if we did but I don't really care if we have one or not

>>4393532
Damn I missed it.
Here's hoping our time zones stnch tomorrow.

>>4393532
Has there ever been a non-adult MC for these ASOIAF threads?

>>4396403
At least two MCs that I remember were young adults.

>>4396403
Harrock was middle-aged.

>>4396410
I thought it would be a good idea to have a much younger MC in Westeros, who's in danger at all times not only from external threats but also family members but then realized the players would probably have zero agency

>>4396435
>Middle-Aged
>Not an adult
????

>>4396461
I think he means in terms of the character sheet in the guide, where adult has the most abilities available, and middle aged is a separate category with less abilities.

>>4396403
There is an ironborn quest (House Redhand) on the catelog right now where MC is a 14 year old girl, but unfortunately the QM has gone AWOL.

>>4396461
Young adult is 14-18, Adult is 18-30, Middle-aged is 30-50. Anything else and you're right, little agency and less to do.

>>4396467
>>4396476
Right, I see

>>4396438
I'd love to see a child Mc at some point but I can't say they'd be able to engage in intrigues or battles to the same extent young adults or older age groups can.

IMO it's probably easier to do what Joe and Father do and have shorter sections of Children POVS or skip large chunks of time so the child can grow "faster"

>>4396527
Remember Baldwin IV? He was a pretty cool dude, and he ruled just fine as a child.

Sorry for not updating, it was friday plus the weekend... you know how it goes..

I feel like a child MC wouldn't be that much interesting. There was a thread where you get to play as a child in the Reynold thread and I think Malroy aswell

But on the bright side, I think I caught the sweet spot for our timezones around 14pm

>>4396822
>14
>pm

>>4397613
OP is posting from Mercury

>>4396631
>Baldwin IV
>ASOIAF MC

pick one

OP tricked us with that 14pm timeslot. We gotta wait 58 days before it's 14pm again on Mercury.

>>4393711
>>4395912
>>4396403
>>4396410
>>4396435
>>4396467
>>4396527
>>4396631
>>4396818
>>4397643
>>4397648

House Silverbank

Our character is Edward Silverbank/Rivers

Lord of the House is Hosten Silverbank

Heir is Elmer Silverbank

Daughter Serra Silverbank

Defence: 22 (Hall)
Influence: 31 ( 30 Heir+Second Daughter)
Lands: 25 ( 25 Plains+small town+grassland+river+stream)
Law: 0
Population: 20
Power: 18 (17 (2 power from Bailiffs)+Trained Garrison+Veteran Cavalry)
Wealth: 26 (24 Bailiffs+Black Market+Brothels+Tolls)

Thank you everyone's patience, I still have one question that needs to be solved from our backstory.

I am making our ascent historical event to be the marriage between Lord Hosten and another House
Who is our biological father/mother?

>Lord Hosten Silverbank
>Lady from another house

Feel free to throw suggestions on the house if you choose the lady

>>4399958
Frey jk Mallister or Vance

If it's worth an "Ascent" event, it would likely have to be one of the major houses.

My personal vote would be for either for a Mallister or a Bracken as they're lands are fairly close to ours.

>>4399962
Seconding the Frey though

>Mallister

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>>4399962
>>4399980
>>4399985

Alright I am seeing Mallister here, Freys will be included for something

We are considered a bastard leaving our status at 4
Now comes our general role, this doesn't mean that we are this or that, but something we are aiming towards

I am trying to keep each vote 30 minutes long but that might be a bit too much

>>4400015
Depends on how many players you have at the time. Sometimes you may have less than 3 which means no rolls, and you'd have to keep the vote open longer. Sometimes you may get more than 10, and things can progress much faster. Like yesterday we had a blast in the Reynold quest playing the Battle of the Trident, all votes were done very quickly, rolls within 5 minutes.

I'd suggest announcing in advance exactly when you intend to run so interested players can get ready. I forgot if you got a Twitter account, that helps too. I hope you don't get discouraged!

Anyway, is there something we have to vote on currently? Also this last vote was a bit unclear. I voted, but didn't really know exactly what I was voting for..

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>>4400084
Sorry I did not specify, basically the book says to vote on a concept for a character.. I might just skip it, I am not really sure how its used... mostly rp I think

Fuck it, let's move over to this backstory, goals, virtue, fears etc

Now then, rolling often gives some wacky characters, so here's what we can do.. roll 2d6, I'll take the first one.

Pick goals, motivations, virtues and fears please

>>4400090
2d6 will be for the background events

>>4399998
Let's pick rogue. We're the bastard of a house with abysmal law and the business of our house is less than legal. Maybe we do our houses dirty work.

I am praying for something else than traveled across the narrow sea

Rolled 1, 3 = 4 (2d6)

>>4400090

Alright, now pick goals, motivations, virtues and vices

>>4400090
So to clarify we are the bastard son of the Mallister woman correct? If so might I suggest...

Goal: Knowledge
Motivation: Jealousy
Virtue: Just
Vice: Prejudiced

We could play a bastard in search of an unknown father, and I think a bit of self loathing with a hatred for those born out of wedlock could be an interesting avenue to explore. Especially with him getting to see his mother true born children and his step father.

If not though, Fish can you explain the rough background you have for the character and we can work from that?

>>4400114
I like your characterization a lot, anon. It takes my vote.

Can women even acknowledge bastards in this setting? I can't think of any examples off the top of my head. Why would a lord marry a woman with an acknowledged bastard anyway? That's a straight up insult to his face. That's more Scandal territory than Ascent territory. Every single person in the lord's household will absolutely hate us.

I thought similarly to the anon above, a rogue bastard who his family uses to deal with the criminal elements, hoping either for glory or one day land of his own.

>>4400136
I'd explain it as that's how the head of house managed to marry our mother, being from House Mallister which is one of the more prestigious houses in the Riverlands.

I'd absolutely agree with the house hold disliking us. It would give us an immediate problem to try and overcome.

Feel free to provide an alternative though. It'd be nice to have something to vote between

>>4400114
>>4400119
>>4400136
>>4400147
>>4400148

fair enough I will dump some lore on that.

So this is what I was thinking off..

Basically the villain our house events came from our house, he managed to set some sort of control around the riverlands, he was faced with another invasion/revolt that led to a powerful marriage between Lord Hosten and a Lady from House Mallister.

Lord Hosten is a weak lord comfortable with sitting on his hall and spend his money, that is why his lands are lawless, he pretty much took the dowry from the marriage and blew it on alcohol... jewelry.. women.. the garrison etc. Fathered many bastards who were disposed of but the majority were ignored

The Lady from house Mallister pretty much did not want to marry nor to leave Seagard, she found nothing but sadness coming to our hall. Lord Hosten went as far as to beat her and drag her around while drunk
She planned to return to Seagard to her family as far as to even exchange letters announcing her return.

Here's what our bastard can be.. either

The Lady cheats on Lord Hosten, she dies from childbirth.. We get to live because House Mallister knows about our existence, everyone on our house knows we are a bastard but they don't say it outloud.

Or

The Lady decides to return to her father and put House Mallister against Silverbank, Hosten realizes he is fucked..The Lady dies from childbirth, a random bastard from Hosten fills the spot as the baby

>>4400136
>>4400148
I like these. Could someone put in in goals, motivations etc.
What would our vice be? Perhaps Scheming to better our lot in life or Cruel for being hated for being an embarrassing stain on our families honour?

Some women of higher status are married to men of lower status when they already have a child. A bastard could be a part of that. It's practical for some men to do so because the woman is of proven fertility. Jon Arryn marrying Lysa Tully who had an abortion, Maegor marrying 3 highborn ladies of proven fertility, etc. A Mallister mother with a bastard son getting quickly married off to Lord Silverbrook would fit.

>>4400101
A battle? You know... Duskendale would be a neat fit here. Maybe the MC was legitimized for having a role in Aerys's rescue? Only kings can legitimize bastards. There would still be a stigma, but it would be interesting to see where he's able to place himself compared to his trueborn half-siblings.

>>4400158
I'm a fan of us not knowing who our father is and having our mother die giving birth to us. Perhaps us getting to live because the Mallisters know about us is due to Lord Hosten being a sack of shit and under threat of war he capitulated?

Do we have name Rivers?

>>4400172
>Do we have name Rivers?

That's traditional, but not explicitly required. Blackfyre and many others just make up their own surnames. They're just not allowed to carry the name of the actual noble house.

>>4400172
But wait.. I am starting to feel there's a lot of confusion.. didn't we had a vote for this already?
>>4399958

This vote was to decide who were the bastard of, people chose lady Mallister so maybe the lady had enough of hosten, cheated and died during childbirth

and because of the distance between Seagard and our Hall, they know the existence of us, Lord Hosten knows that we are a bastard but why would he admit it? That would bring shame and make house Mallister fucking pissed at us.

Pretty much they aknowledge us from fear of shame and the wrath of House Mallister

>>4400177
Yes? But we don't know who she cheated with correct?

I'm just curious if we're Edward Rivers or Edward Silverbank. I'd personally prefer Rivers but if it makes more sense for the story you want to tell to be Silverbank that's cool too.

>>4400158
In either of these cases why would we be raised at Silverbank and not at Seagard. In fact this is the problem with being the bastard child of the mother, why be raised in the husband's household at all? Even if the Lord accepted that the wife had a child before, why would he not ask for the child to be left at Seagard? Women have tolerate the presence of their husband's bastards because they have no power, here if the lord is powerful enough to beat our mother, why would he not ask for the child to be left behind?

Again, it is a straight up insult in the lord's face for the wife's bastard to be raised in his household.

I would suggest an alternative to this scenario, we are the only acknowledged bastard of our father, the lady prevented him from acknowledging any more. The father uses us for his underground dealings.

>>4400177
I thought we were voting for who the lord's wife was, that's why I voted >Mallister and not >Lady of the house.

Ok. Don't throw anything at me quite yet... how hot is our half-sister?

This is becoming very confusing. In this vote >>4399958
All the votes are for which house the Lord is married to, not who is the MC's parent. I'll please ask you to put this to vote again, who is MC's parent, the lord or the lady.

>>4400172
I just read your message again, sorry my mistake. Yes, we don't know who is our real father.. maybe someone who was really close to Lady Mallister. Someone she could trust, maybe a guard that came from Seagar or a servant.

We are Edward Silverbank but only because the Lady of our house tried to pass it as if we were from Lord Hosten

>>4400186

Alright, what I am trying to say is that the lady came to our house because House Mallister owned us a favour or something (ascent event)

The villain (maybe our grandfather) cares about legacy so he puts fear into Hosten, forces him to marry and have children. The villain eventually dies (battle or old age)

The lady of the house didn't wanted to be married to a Silverbank nor even come to our hall, she has relationship with a servant/guard/knight etc.

They get married and Hosten gets the dowry

Now.. what we can decide is if we are the first born that Lady Mallister passes as Lord Hosten's son or maybe we are the third children (from servant,guard,knight etc)

>>4400194
The wording looks clear to me... idc. I missed it anyway. If he wants to revote, then I'll just vote for the mother this time.

>>4400200
I think being the youngest child makes the most sense, but being the first sounds more fun.

Maybe our "Father" is trying to find a way to disown us so his trueborn son can inherit? In that case, maybe our father was our mothers sworn sword but he has since disappeared

What we can do is have the lady be a mallister and we can have another vote on who is the biological parent.

Or continue with we are the bastard of lady Mallister but born from another man while being married to Lord Hosten

>>4400207
now we are getting somewhere, Elmer pretty much would want us out of the picture same with Hosten, but they can't do that because House Mallister is going to suspect heavily (letters from Lady Mallister)

I suggest- we are a bastard the mother had before the marriage. Unknown father. The Lord of Silverbank married our mother afterwards, accepting our existence and getting a higher rank marriage. The mother then had two legitimate children with the lord afterwards, but died mysteriously/in childbirth before we were old enough to ask her who our father was. The lord was forced to raise us as a favor for the Mallisters (maybe the Mallister lord doesn't want a reminder of his daughter's indiscretion back in his house) Now our goal is to find our father.

>>4400219
The reason I prefer this over the current ideas is that if the Lord Silverbank didn't calm us out for being a bastard then we are not a bastard, the name is all that matters. We would be on par with a legitimate child. Then there's no point of being a bastard, and even if we did find our father somehow it'll only remove us from the succession and lower our status.

>>4400221
Calm->call

>>4400219
>>4400221
This fits better, I think. Otherwise he's just a bastard with none of the major downsides. It would be more interesting if the mother was still alive, though. Maybe we are her favorite despite (or because of) our parentage?

goal about finding the bastard's father doesn't really appeal to me, it would mean leaving Silverbank.

plus raising a bastard from another house isn't that much of an ascent...

>>4400229
>>4400230
I mean at that point why don't we just play the heir with a self destructive father with a lot of ambitious bastards, while we try to set the land to rights working despite our father's neglect and quiet encouragement? Maybe be allowed the black market and brothels to flourish and we want to be a just lord. Throw in protecting our mother from his violence too, we have plenty of drama. Anyhow playing the mothers bastard will mean we are far removed from any decision making going on regarding the House.

>>4400230
I'm not sold on finding the father, but it could still be an ascent if the dowry was high and the lord only had to tollerate the lad rather than coddle him.

>>4400247
Sure, I am willing to scrap the bastard idea and stick to the heir, I tried to keep the votes simple enough but I feel like that confused the fuck out of everyone.

Alright, let me read through all the posts again and maybe come up with another vote for the backstory

If we're the mother's bastard raised in Silverbank and you're not interested in finding our father, maybe we could be a power hungry schemer working with the criminal underground that the lord's incompetence and neglect has allowed to flourish, working for more wealth and power, while being the criminal's man on the inside. Making all those sayings about bastards come true. Play a nice amoral/evil character for a change.

but feel free to continue to discuss, everything helps

>>4400266
i quite like this. Perhaps we are our mothers favourite like >>4400229 suggested and our goals is to take over the house from within through any means necessary

>>4400266
More on this, maybe the mother is alive and protects us or the heir is naive and is our friend (kind of like Domeric Bolton and Ramsay Snow) which would explain why the lord has not thrown us out yet.

>>4400259
One word advice is don't be afraid to veto this stuff if you have a specific story you want to tell. You won't enjoy running if you arn't telling the story you want, which in turn means the quest won't last long.

That being said, >>4400266
I can get behind this.

>>4400266
>>4400273
I agree, then the qualities would be something like this (feel free to edit)
Goal: Power
Motivation: Greed
Virtues: I am unsure on this, but I'm thinking Courageous or Charitable (to the poor, like a Robin Hood character)
Vice: Ambitious/grasping.

>>4400266
I like this.

Alright.. I took a small break, here's what I can offer..

Our last house event is ascent, in this case, is a marriage between our house and house Mallister. Now we are going to vote on how is the MC going to enter the story.

>A)

Lady Mallister has a lot of friction with Lord Hosten, eventually tired for violence, cheating and incompetence decides to leave with her guards back to her father in Seagard. With barely an army and a lot of mismanagement House Silverbank could get wiped out by Mallister.

Lady Mallister "dies" from childbirth, which prevents her leaving the hall, a bastard picked from the many of Lord Hosten and becomes Edward Silverbank

Only our house is aware and holds it over Edward's head, Mallister is unaware of the plot

>B)

We are the heir of the house, Lord Hosten is incompetent with a history of bad moods, drinking, whoring, bastards etc.


>C)

Lady Mallister becomes pregnant out of marriage, in order to prevent shame and embarrassment to the Mallisters, they agree to marry her off as quickly as possible to the nearest House, in this case House Silverbank.
All of this is the BACKSTORY, what our character is going to be or aim for will be decided on ANOTHER VOTE like abilities and roles >>4399998

>>4400392
>C

How about this one? >>4400266 I thought this would be interesting.
Although I agree with the other anon that you should tell the story you want to tell, otherwise the quest will be over quite soon. I'll vote for the other choices if this one is not on the cards. I'll say again though, option C looks unfeasible if the Silverbank lord knows, because it would mean that his house and lands would be inherited by someone not of his blood. I don't think any lord would accept that.

>>4400402
C can easily imply the kid was already born when they were wed, making the bastard a minimal threat to future children barring extraordinary circumstances.

>>4400392
>C

>>4400402
isn't your vote and C.. the same? I think you mean to say if we were already born or unborn.

A juicy dowry and a marriage beyond our station seems very interesting enough plus Lord Hosten's father, probably the villain, forced him to marry

>>4400425
All I'm saying is that the MC will have to be already born for C to be realistic. If he's still unborn when the Lord and Lady married, it would make him the heir, which would be unacceptable to any lord, even the villain, that their legacy will not passed to one of their own blood, regardless of any dowry or above the station marriage.

Regarding my vote >>4400266 and option C, yes I agree that they are not incompatible, and we should decide in a further vote whether the MC grows this way or any other way.

>Voting for C

>C

>>4400402
I would agree that the MC should have been born before the marriage, but I'll roll with anything

Well with the MC not being born, adds more impact on getting Lady married as fast as possible, meaning the Mallisters are willing to do anything to get this over with right?

If the heir is already born, why would bother with us? a house is known for being cruel and involved in a lot of wars with lands being plagued by ironborns, bandits, criminals etc

Maybe Hosten or his father has plans to get rid of him and the lady?
Maybe their plot means killing the lady once the baby is born and then making him have an accident in the future?

There are many things that I could add to make it realistic

>>4400538
Tell whatever story you want to tell and which makes you want to write, man.

>>4400551
+1

>>4400551
Definitely this.

>>4400538
>>4400568
>If the heir is already born, why would bother with us? a house is known for being cruel and involved in a lot of wars with lands being plagued by ironborns, bandits, criminals etc
But with the caveat: if Lord Mallister had intended for his daughter to be the lady of a house and she had transgressed in such a way as to ruin her prospects with an heir or lord of equal standing, then it is far from unrealistic that Lord Mallister would seek to at least install her as the lady of a more minor house. At that point, it's closer to a "beggars can't be choosers" situation. But that's just my take, by all means alter it or disregard it.

>>4400538
Were you the anon who inquired about an asoiaf quest with a preexisting incestous relationship? Not judging btw, it could be a good story if done well.

>>4400610
nah I was in one of the failed house creation threads and wanted to give it a try.

>>4400551
>>4400554
>>4400568
>>4400610

Alright, so finally we have the background, now that all that confusion is gone.

Let's try it again and vote for >>4400090

I'll keep the background dice roll

>>4400673
Just to clarify, and this might just be because I'm pretty deep into my beer supply, but is the MC an established bastard before the marriage took place or was he born after the marriage? Is he a Rivers (or whatever he's going by) or a Silverbrook? I only ask because it would make a difference in the sort of goals/motivations I'd pluck out.

Alright, I got a few ideas, what is the last name of the MC? Was he born outside of marriage or inside? Both will major consequences regardless

>Rivers
>Silverbank

>>4400774
>Rivers

>>4400774
Rivers

Full bastard mode initiated. We gonna be on a first name basis with all the whores in the brothels

We still need the votes for this goals,motivations etc >>4400090

>>4400090
>>4400869

Goals: Power
Motivations: lust Greed
Virtues: Devoted (to the mother)
Vices: Ambitious/Grasping

Rolled 2 (1d2)

forgot about one thing
1 alive
2 dead

>>4400774
>Rivers

As for goals/motivations, this >>4400921
Is fine.
>Goals: Power
>Motivations: lust / Greed
>Virtues: Devoted (to the mother)
>Vices: Ambitious/Grasping

>>4400927
I think it would make for better drama if the mother is alive because it would explain why the Lord hasn't thrown us out yet, it is the one thing he allows to our mother. It also works into our goals/motivations as a secondary goal in that we want to be powerful enough to protect our mother from the lord and in the long term free her from her marriage.

>>4400960
Lord Hosten doesn't care, the lady gave her two children already, his only interest was to please his father once he died he pretty much ignored all of his reponsabilities

>>4400967
Oh alright, that works too. I guess the Virtue:Devoted (to the mother) will have to be changed the if the mother is dead (>>4400927)
I think Courageous might work, it takes a certain amount of daring and boldness to be working against the lord in his own home, and there will inevitably be that one good guy still trying to keep it all together who'll be up against us.

>>4400978
I'll throw my support behind this

Continuing tomorrow

Ahh damn I missed the meat of character gen.

>>4400774
>Rivers

I like where this is going

>>4400774
>>Rivers

>>4400951
>>4400774
+1

Goals: Power
Motivations: Greed
Virtues: Courageous
Vices: Ambitious/Grasping

Is everyone fine with this?

>>4401737
Works

>>4401737
Yep.

>>4401737
Yay

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Alright, so considering the character was part of a battle, I am making him adult (18-30) I'll leave the exact age to decide

That leave us with 210 experience

take a look at the roles >>4399998 if you want to aim at something in particular with the abilities.

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This is the full list, ignore the specialities for now

>>4401774
As far as Archtypes go I like leader or Rogue anything but a basic warrior.

>>4401787
Focus on Cunning, Deception and Persuasion. Maybe Thievery too for the full complement. Leave Warfare at 2 (no command experience) Fighting at 3 (no one competent willing to teach us)

A lot of people wanted to do rogue abilities so maybe something between leader and rogue? It could work

>>4401795
Yeah but lean a bit more into Rogue than leader, we are a bastard after all and a scheming ambitious one at that.

Leader makes a little less sense with the background we have chosen. I don't think we'd be trusted enough to be put in command.

What year are we starting in btw?

>>4401774
Also are you doing this by the book or the homebrew method the other quests use? I think Boggs and Joe have a cap of one rank 6 ability and 2 rank 5 abilities. And after rank 3 all upgrades cost a uniform 30 experience. Some clarification would be nice.