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The Grail War continues, and it seems that no amount of distance from Fuyuki City will stop that.

You are Shinji Makiri, Ten years ago you suddenly found yourself with the memories of a complete past life that saw this world as a fictional story due to some unprecedented form of inter-dimensional transportation. Since that day, your new composite being has been working to change the grim future laid out for you.

To that end, you have done much, involving yourself with events and situations that have shifted the future away from the one that you once would have faced and instead onto one of uncertainty and chaos.

The Fifth Holy Grail War lies ahead of you, and the challenge and danger it represents to you, the people you care for and the world itself is far greater than you could have ever predicted. Though the grail might be corrupted and the war itself might be a sham, the stakes couldn't be higher.

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"I'm thinking of maybe interrogating the two of them before anything else, then maybe giving them the opportunity to join me, depending on what they say. Now... Miho, your Servant has surrendered to me, are you going to follow suit, or are you going to be staying in the bubble?" It's something of a bluff, you can't keep that orb of energy going forever, and if you tried you'd end up running out of all your magical energy. Seeing as you just got attacked by a Servant and her Master in the daytime, you can safely assume that night in Misaki Town might be even worse.

The Half-Oni inside the orb has completely reverted to her human form and looks downright miserable "Yes, damn it." You allow the element of truth to dissipate, no longer keeping it in the world through your own power. She lands flat on her back and just groans instead of trying to get up.

"So. First off, this bounty on me, who set it... which of the organizers? Kirei or the hooded girl?" You want to know whether or not it's Ciel or the damn fake priest you've got to blame for this. Ciel shouldn't be immortal anymore now that you've erased the existence of Roa from reality itself... you think. You hope she realizes that before she does something stupid and dies for real.

"Uhm... Well, we were all given a notice of summons to the construction site of the old Fuyuki Church that's being repaired, but only three groups ended up showing up, Rider and her Master, Lancer alone, and Ibaraki and myself. Rider's Master just laughed at Kotomine-san for a while before leaving with his Servant, Lancer didn't say anything and ended up leaving after Kotomine-san had finished, and it really felt like only me and Berserker were serious about getting the extra command spells. Well, we didn't want to pass up on the opportunity to win the war... especially when it was an opportunity to get rid of the... uh... the biggest cheater in the war, and Berserker wanted to get rid of you for... personal reasons." Probably something to do with the disappearance of Shuten.

You laugh out loud. "Wow. Right, let's clarify a few things on my end. First off, Assassin chose to join my faction and seemed to be comfortable when she was still... active." You feel a little bit awkward about just how quickly you managed to lose Shuten to the girl underneath the temple, and kind of guilty too.

"Hey... what do you mean by 'active'?" You hear the Oni laying on the floor groan in pain as her favorite topic of conversation is brought up.
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"I mean that the true enemy, of everyone fighting in the war and of the world itself are the two girls underneath the temple in Fuyuki, two girls with connections to the Root and each and every Servant from the last grail war under their control. On the night of Shuten's disappearance, I attacked her temple, unaware of what lied beneath. As a result, the majority of my allies were captured by the girls, and right now, I'm still trying to think of a way to defeat her. They are limited by their magical energy, so it should be possible to overwhelm the two of them through enough force, so long as you don't get blindsided. The girl I believe is responsible for the second set of Servants for some reason, but I don't know why. In addition, thanks to the events of the Third Grail War, the Greater Grail has become infected with the essence of a God of Evil, which will twist any wish made on the grail to be one that causes the most suffering." The oni on the floor looks kind of... close to tears as you explain the uselessness of the grail. "A wish to bring about world peace would bring a world without war about through eradicating all humanity but one family, as an example."

"But... that... that's horrible! Why is the war still being fought then?" Miho is clearly starting to recover from her nausea now, but you can tell that she doesn't want to fight you anymore. The very fact that you defeated her and her Servant so completely but didn't kill her has gone a long way to secure her trust. "So... there's no wish at the end of all this?"

"No. There never was a wish, and the reason for the continuation of the war is magus greed and stupidity. Mostly on the part of the Einzbern Family of magi, or well, the golem that currently heads the family. The homunculi aren't aware of the corruption of the grail."

"Never... was a wish?" Miho chooses to focus on the most shocking part of your sentence, and you decide to elaborate a little for the girl.

"The Grail, as it exists, isn't actually a holy artifact that grants wishes, and while it can be used to grant some 'wishes', they aren't 'true' wishes at all. At its core, the grail is just a container for the magical energy of slain Servants, and while it can use that magical energy to bring about a variety of effects, the true purpose of a grail war is for the Master to betray their Servant at the end of the war in order to gather enough magical energy to open a pathway to the Root." It's the perfect plan! That only fails every single time somebody attempts it without fail.

"Of course. As if magi would really be interested in anything else." Arcueid states from behind you, her opinion on magi isn't good it seems, though it's not inaccurate at all. Most magi would sacrifice their entire family in order to get a shot at the Root. They are truly obsessed with it.
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You hear a sigh from Ibaraki as she looks up at the ceiling. "So... it was all for nothing. There never was an actual chance of fulfilling my wish? Ha... Well, I suppose that's just my luck, at least Shuten... isn't dead." Ibaraki sounds terribly miserable as the words sink in.

"There's one more thing I need to ask you... you weren't working with Assassin's master, were you?" You need to know if they were actually working with that old worm bastard personally, though somehow, you doubt either of the two girls here would even consider working with Zouken. They just aren't the type.

"What? No, we never even met them. Assassin didn't seem to be in any sort of a hurry to introduce him, and he never showed himself personally. I was just sort of... forced to go along with what Berserker wanted to do... and Berserker wanted to do what Assassin told her to do." That sounds... awfully plausible. "Then Berserker kind of became a little obsessed with you after Shuten disappeared. Your scent was all over the place she was supposed to meet Assassin." These two Oni are actually kind of bumbling idiots, aren't they? You think you'd feel bad if you killed them, it would be like drowning a sack of dumb puppies.

>Help Miho to her feet and ask if she wants to help you save the world.
>Help Miho to her feet and ask if she wants to right her wrongs.
>Tell Miho that you don't trust her enough the let her become a member of your faction, but you aren't going to kill her or Berserker.
>Ask Miho what her wish for the grail was before deciding whether or not you want her help.
>Write-in...
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>>4642367
>Ask Miho what her wish is.
>Ask her if she is prepared to make amends to get it done, if it’s something that won’t conflict with our goals.
>Assure Ibaraki we will be getting Shuten back.
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>>4642367
>>Ask Miho AND ibaraki what their wishes are.
>>Ask her if she is prepared to make amends to get it done, if it’s something that won’t conflict with our goals.
>>Assure Ibaraki we will be getting Shuten back.
>Ask miho if she still want to be ibaraki's master if the grail is useless
>tell then to say sorry to Akiha and the rest
Also fucking kishima may come back trying to punch both to death, we should be prepared for that.
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>>4642367
Welp, this is going exactly as expected.
Slick stuff everyone.
>>4642372
This.
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>>4642367
>>4642382
>>4642380
Oh and switching this, it's a bit more comprehensive.
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>>4642367
Ask Miho what her wish for the grail was before deciding whether or not you want her help and Help Miho to her feet and ask if she wants to help you save the world.
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>>4642380
+1
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>>4642367
>>4642380
Supporting this one.
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>>4642380
Support
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I'm off grocery shopping.
here's hoping you haven't decided to kill the ineffectual comic relief villains by the time I return.
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>>4642367
>>4642380
Support.
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>>4642380
Support.
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>>4642367
Supporting >>4642380

We should probably try to use Truth on Arcueid to cure her vampire urges and restore her to her prime 100% power.
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>>4642395
We should call then team rocket at least once.
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test
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>>4642441
What are you testing.
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>>4642442
my image posts are not appearing on some boards for some reason
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>>4642449
Understandable, have a good day.

Anyway, calling in like... I don't know... 18 minutes?
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>>4642454
I think Arc is speedrunning Shinji route.
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>>4642459
It's going pretty good for so far, in my opinion.
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>>4642423
Are you sure that you want to use your power that you can hardly control to effectively rewrite somebody's mind?
Arcueid's mind, at that?
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>>4642465
Yeah thats retarded, at least for now.
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>>4642465
What could possibly go wrong?
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>>4642488
I certainly can't think of anything.
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>>4642474
Good thing we're a bunch of retards then.
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>>4642462
I don't know, she could learn a thing or two from Shiki.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3-Uo_3KeQo
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"Alright, well first off, I want to know what your wishes are, I need to know just what sort of people the two of you are, and just what it is that could drive you to try to kill other people in a battle royale. Mostly you, Miho, but I'd also like to know just what it is that you seek, Ibaraki." You decide that before anything else, you're going to get these Oni to tell you just what they want. Just what could drive them to kill... though they are Oni, so the killing of humans should come as something natural to them. It seems that Miho is quite a bit more meek when she's not calling upon the power of her blood. Or at least appears to be that way.

"My wish..." Miho sighs. "It was to bring back somebody precious to me that I... I lost when I was just a child." The girl seems to be slowly coming to the terms that her wish will be impossible, and honestly, even the non-corrupted grail likely wouldn't be able to truly bring somebody back from the dead. At best it would be able to create a false version of the person from your memories, a trick form of life composed solely of your memories of what they were like, a happy lie. The only true way to ensure you could replicate somebody perfectly would be through having a complete copy of their structure stored as a blue-print, and even then it would simply be a perfect copy, and not the real thing. "I've been alone for so long... that I just wanted to see her face again..."

"I'm sorry." Is all you say. There's not really much you can say or offer to the girl. Her story is quite sad, but you can't really do anything about it.

"Don't be like that... Under-... Master... I'm here with you aren't I? You're not alone anymore." The other Oni on the floor tries to reassure her master, and your attention shifts to the horned girl laying there. "My wish... it's stupid, but..." Ibaraki pauses and seems to decide not to say her next few words. Deciding against revealing just what she wants, and you begin to try to recall what the Oni's wish was, it's been years and years, but you think it was something to do with Shuten being happy? You keep staring at Ibaraki as you try to think of what she might be fighting for, and the girl, completely misreading the situation, loses her temper. "Fine! You want to know what I wanted? I wanted to go back and stop Shuten from getting herself killed! I wanted to prevent the downfall of the Oni, I wanted to destroy the Minamoto before they could destroy us!" Ibaraki blurts out a wish that you weren't really expecting her to have. You're left speechless at the words of the Oni.
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"Berserker... is that... really what you were fighting for?" Miho sounds shocked by just what Ibaraki was looking to do with the grail. Of course, while it does sort of cover the whole 'making Shuten happy' thing, it's still a far larger wish than you were expecting her to have. A wish that may have just caused Oni in Japan to never truly die out as a direct result of it. If that wish was actually made, it would've ended up completely rewriting a portion of Japan's history. The lack of Minamoto no Raikou would mean that any attempt to assault the Oni would be met with disaster, the Four Heavenly Kings alone would not be able to overcome the Oni without their leader to battle Shuten, and the tale would've had a very different ending and moral.

"I told you it's stupid." Ibaraki huffs. Seems like she feels some shame about the idea of effectively cheating to rid herself of an opponent she doesn't herself have a hope of defeating. You feel sorry for her, but again, such a wish is kind of a ridiculous one in the first place. Especially when she's already had her reunion with Shuten, seems that Ibaraki simply doesn't want her reunion to have to end, so she'd be willing to effectively erase the person she ended up being.

"I don't think that's a stupid wish at all, Berserker... I think that it's a..." Miho seems to be relieved at the strange innocence behind Ibaraki's destructive and callous wish. It's not a wish born of a want for revenge against the Minamoto, but it's a wish born simply out of nostalgia for, as Ibaraki would see it, the best times of her life.

"Look, can you two do this a bit later?" Arcueid interrupts the two having a heartfelt exchange. "I think Shinji has some more questions for the two of you, so..." Arcueid obviously doesn't care much for the two Oni's wishes, the True Ancestor not really showing much empathy at all for the two girls.

"Um... Right, thank you, Arcueid. I would ask you if you would be willing to make amends so I can help you accomplish those wishes, but... I think that your wish is perhaps out of my power, Ibaraki." Even if you could fulfill such a wish, you wouldn't anyway. It's one which could have disastrous consequences to the country of Japan. "As for your wish Miho... I am... uncertain."

"Huh?" Miho looks at you in surprise, and you offer her a hand to get up, which she takes.
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"I have yet to master my abilities, but I think that it ought to be possible to do something like bring the dead back to life were I to actually properly be able to control them." Hell, you erased Roa from the Root itself when you had a backdoor into it, who's to say that you couldn't do the inverse if the opportunity arose? Never mind the fact that Zelretch exists, and bringing somebody back to life for him is as simple as grabbing them from an alternative timeline or the past. "As for Shuten, I am of course doing everything in my power to retrieve her from the girl under the grail, I assure you that I will get her back, Ibaraki."

"You better..." Ibaraki's words are clearly meant as something of a threat to you, which is ended the moment she catches sight of Arcueid's threatening smile "...please?" The demon's demand turns into a bizarre request out of a genuine and true fear for the True Ancestor. An opponent that even herself and Shuten fighting together wouldn't be able to defeat, one who could obliterate all three of the Oni without even trying in the time it takes their blood to fall to the ground if she was actually fighting without holding back. Arcueid Brunestud has strength that almost no monster could ever hope to match..

"I will. I do want to ask though, Miho. Are you OK with fighting alongside Berserker even after finding out the grail is useless? Will you fight alongside me to save the world?" You know, that line really does sound unbelievably corny whenever you use it. It's so damn cliche.

"What sort of a question is that? What sort of a person would I be if I said no?" Miho almost sounds offended by the idea of you even having to ask her.

"I'm going to fight with my Master until the end. I made her that promise when she summoned me, and Oni aren't the sort to go back on promises." Ibaraki finally finds the energy to pick herself off the floor, and she eyes the True Ancestor warily.

"Well, that's good. Now then, disable this Noble Phantasm, and let's go have the two of you apologize to all of the people who got caught up in this." You cross your arms sternly, and the two girls wince. The deactivation of Ibaraki's Noble Phantasm reverses all the damage dealt to the interior of the mansion as it once again takes on the previous appearance it had, and you're forced to take the hallway back to the meeting room instead of simply walking through the holes in the walls.
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As you walk out of the room you were in you see quite literally the last person on the planet you ever expected to see again leaning against the wall of the corridor, garbed in a loose blue kimono. His somewhat long hair a light brown and his eyes a bright blue, even his skin seems to be less pale than the last time you saw him, and you freeze, just as Arcueid does. SHIKI?!

"Not quite the reaction I was expecting to receive from the two who saved me." The true son of the Tohno frowns at your shock.

"SHIKI? is that you?" You look at the boy, unable to hide the surprise on your face at the appearance of the boy. He didn't die when Roa did... and his Inversion Impulse was reversed too?! How?! Arcueid is eyeing the previous host of Roa with suspicion, prepared to strike him down at any moment.

"Woah! Wait a second, hold on there! There's no need to rip my body apart again, that vampire is gone now." You still don't trust SHIKI just because Roa is gone. "So is the Inversion Impulse. Looks like when you got rid of that thing in my head, something happened to my body. I... found my wounds being healed without even doing anything about it myself, almost as if they were being reversed by the world itself." Oh... well, that can't be good. "I felt something trying to... irritate the demon blood again a few minutes ago, but nothing ended up happening." SHIKI muses for a moment.

"Then... does Akiha know?" You question the boy, who doesn't seem that bothered about you knowing so much about him. After witnessing your abilities first hand, he's looking at you like you're some sort of mythical existence, some sort of wish-granting God. It's actually kind of unnerving you.

SHIKI shrugs "I've yet to tell her. I'm thinking of leaving Misaki Town for a while, I need to get my thoughts in order, it's been so long since I've been in control of them, and I don't want to risk lashing out at her or Shiki."

>Ask SHIKI to come with you to Akiha.
>Ask SHIKI if he wants to come with you to Fuyuki
>Tell SHIKI that you think it would be for the best if he were to leave town.
>Tell SHIKI to do whatever he wants.
>Write-in...
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>>4642607
Ask SHIKI to come with you to Akiha.
>Ask SHIKI if he wants to come with you to Fuyuki
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>>4642607
>>Ask SHIKI if he wants to come with you to Fuyuki
Probably best if he comes with us honestly. I don't really think he has a place after what his inversion and Roa would make him do.
This is a nice surprise though, WhatIs.
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>>4642607
>Ask SHIKI to come with you to Akiha.
>Ask SHIKI if he wants to come with you to Fuyuki
Please tell me SHIKI isn't joining the Shinji bowl.
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>>4642616
>Please tell me SHIKI isn't joining the Shinji bowl.
Too late, we already have Lugh and that opened the floodgates.
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>>4642607
>>Ask SHIKI to come with you to Akiha.
>>Ask SHIKI if he wants to come with you to Fuyuki
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>>4642607
>Ask SHIKI to come with you to Akiha.
>Ask SHIKI if he wants to come with you to Fuyuki
Guess we are responsible for this.
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We need to keep all-caps SHIKI around, we have too many love interests and need to start matchmaking them with other guys before things get even more out o f hand.
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>>4642629
too late
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>>4642607
>Ask SHIKI to come with you to Akiha.
>Ask SHIKI if he wants to come with you to Fuyuki.
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>>4642617
Sorry, I couldn't stop myself.
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>>4642640
+1
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>>4642641
Top tier, anon. Good work.
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20 minutes till call.
Did you like the surprise?
If you went alone, he would've ended up helping you and Kouma against the Oni, though the fight would've been much harder as you wouldn't have been able to just steamroll Ibaraki with Arc.
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>>4642641
more of us should've expected this outcome, we technically didn't kill SHIKI, we erased Roa from existence
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>>4642648
ah shit, we should've done that, that would've been kino
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>>4642655
On the brightside Sakura and Arcueid got to feel useful.
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>>4642660
I feel bad for Ibaraki. She got bitchslapped through a wall and then sat on.
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>>4642660
We've been relying on arc ever since we met her. Not that im complaining since she's best girl.
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>>4642672
Don't worry, soon enough she will start to call Arc mommy.
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>>4642672
thats what you get from being dumb enough to think this plan was in any way a good idea.
fucking dumb berserkers.
>>4642648
Yes.
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>>4642640
+1
dude needs to tell his sister before fucking off.
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>>4642697
Also add to this
>Ask SHIKI if he wants to come with you to Fuyuki
if the vote still count.
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>>4642601
So this banana qualifies as a piece of Taira no Kagekiyo
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>>4642648
Yes. Honestly weren’t expecting him to stitch himself together, but it’s a welcome bit of news.

>>4642607
I know I’m late but I’m with the consensus of talking to Akiha and inviting him to join our crew.
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>>4642629
Good idea. Our party is getting too damn fishy if you know what I mean.
Too much eestrogen. Too many alpha bitches, and Sakura, all with the same plan.
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>>4642732
>Shinji invites SHIKI along in hopes he would take some heat off his person
>ends up with >>4642641 instead

On a more serious note though, we should stop by Shiki as well and check on him.
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>>4642713
>So this banana qualifies as a piece of Taira no Kagekiyo
Nah, that requires a wish of revenge against the minamoto.

>It's not a wish born of a want for revenge against the Minamoto, but it's a wish born simply out of nostalgia for, as Ibaraki would see it, the best times of her life.
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>>4642742
Yeah, we didn't make the best first impression with him and sorta doomed him out of three of his route prospects. The least we can do is help him reach his full potential...then again, maybe we should leave him to find his own path so our "rival" can find his own path. He's the student of our teachers sister after all.
Hmmm hmmmm, what's more thematically fitting!
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"You know, I think the least you ought to do is explain things to Akiha before you leave, SHIKI. Oh right, and also, why don't you come with me back to Fuyuki City? There's going to be a lot of danger there, but I feel like you might be able to help out, especially if what I think happened actually happened."

"What are you talking about?" SHIKI doesn't seem to be following along.

You put a hand on your chin. "You said that it felt like your wounds were reversed by the world itself, didn't you? That it wasn't a result of your own power that you're here right now." It couldn't possibly be the same sort of thing Ciel has, could it?

"I... did." SHIKI doesn't seem to understand just what you're getting at for a moment, but if you're right about what happened to the boy, then you may have just done something completely unintended.

"Well, could you try just giving yourself a minor cut for a moment, and try not to regenerate it by yourself." You instruct the boy, you just want to make sure you're right before you say anything.

"Uh. Alright." SHIKI is quite different in personality now that his inversion is no longer plaguing his mind, he's able to clearly think and act as a human once again for the first time in nearly a decade. SHIKI doesn't actually use any sort of knife in order to cut himself, and instead relies upon his power as a Mixed-Blood to give himself a small wound on his index finger.

The wound is gone just ten seconds after he caused it, and he looks at it in confusion, so you decide to explain. "Well, it seems to me like you've become something of a true immortal. You won't age, any wound you take will be reversed, and even the act of dying will be rapidly reversed by the planet itself." It's ridiculous that something like this ended up happening, but given the circumstances, this will probably end up being useful to you.

"But... why?" SHIKI doesn't really seem to understand you very well, it seems like he didn't inherit any of Roa's magical knowledge before you erased the vampire from the Root. Ah well, you can't have it all. Though when you think about it, if Ciel inherited all of Roa's magical knowledge, shouldn't she be capable of manifesting a Reality Marble? She should at least know all the mechanics behind the creation of one, even if Roa's own Marble is unavailable to her for some reason. Thank goodness Ciel doesn't want to use her magecraft...
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>>4642764
We should at least heal his unhealable wound.
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"It's actually probably my fault..." The way you killed Roa, if the world won't allow either Ciel or as things now appear SHIKI to die until the Dead Apostle known as Roa meets his death, then of course this was the only possible result! Two people who have immortality that will only end with the death of something that doesn't exist. "Because of that vampire, when I erased him, it had a strange effect on the world. The world right now considers your existence linked to the death of non-existence." It's a bizarre thing to say to somebody, that they are now almost completely immortal thanks to you. In fact, the superiority of the concept of 'only dying when non-existence dies' may actually make it so both Ciel and SHIKI are immune to even the Mystic Eyes of Death Perception. Probably best if Shiki doesn't look at either of them now, you don't know how they'll look to those eyes. "Now that's out of the way, let's go see Akiha, shall we? I'll vouch for you if you need it." You know that Akiha never forgave her brother for what he did to Shiki, and also wants to keep SHIKI's existence a secret from Shiki in order to prevent him from having to relive the pain of knowing he's the last survivor of the Nanaya clan of Demon Hunters or when his childhood best friend became a monster and attempted to kill both him and Akiha, but she shouldn't be capable of holding a grudge against an uninverted version of SHIKI, right? "You can't just run from your problems. I know that better than most people."

"I... I don't know if she'll accept me after what I did back when I was inverted... but you're right. I can't just run away from her after what happened. I need to talk to her... and Kohaku." His face takes on a cold glaze as he mentions the name of the maid, and there's a tone of anguish in his voice as he recalls just what he's been responsible for as a result of everything going poorly for him. Roa, his Oni-blood and even Kohaku's brainwashing attempts through drugging him. "Let's go. I have... a few apologies I need to make." SHIKI looks downright miserable. "It's the least I could do after everything that happened, then I guess I'll go with you." Seems that SHIKI doesn't want to stay in Misaki town, not that you can really blame him.
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Your group, now one person larger, walks back towards the meeting hall, and upon entering, you see Satsuki and Sakura chatting with each other while Touko has a hand on the forehead of one of the Branch-members, clearly using some sort of memory alteration on them, looks like she's just about done, with the only person left to be hypnotized being Akiha herself. A quick glance about the room also lets you see two unconscious maid twins that have been placed into a corner, clearly drawn to the commotion of the battle and hypnotized as a result. You're going to need to introduce everyone, but first you're going to need to decide whether or not you should let Akiha get her memories altered.

>Let Akiha be hypnotized, the sooner this whole sordid attack is forgotten, the better.
>Stop Touko from removing the events from Akiha's mind and instead ask for her to be woken up.
>Stop Touko from removing the events from Akiha's mind and ask if Kouma came back.
>Write-in...
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>>4642794
>>Stop Touko from removing the events from Akiha's mind and instead ask for her to be woken up.
If Akiha gets her memory wiped, it'll be harder to explain shit. Also, she's trustworthy. Shiki and Akiha are probably the two we should let remember this shit, especially since we're going to do business with them in the future.
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>>4642794
>>Stop Touko from removing the events from Akiha's mind and instead ask for her to be woken up.
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>>4642794
Great, now ciel and SHIKI have hourai elixir-tier immortality.
I'm not sure how to feel about this.
>Stop Touko from removing the events from Akiha's mind and instead ask for her to be woken up.
>ask about Kishima
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>>4642797
Our new friend is our new meat shield
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>>4642794
>Stop Touko from removing the events from Akiha's mind and instead ask for her to be woken up.
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>>4642794
>Stop Touko from removing the events from Akiha's mind and instead ask for her to be woken up.
Deleting Akiha's memory seems like a top tier bad idea.

>>4642797
Considering Truth seems to overwrite everything, it shouldn't be impossible to correct it.
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Trying to ally with Ciel has gotten way harder now, she won't believe Roa is [REDACTED] now since she still has her immortality
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>>4642794
>Stop Touko from removing the events from Akiha's mind and instead ask for her to be woken up.
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>>4642817
She should has second set of memories now just like Arcueid has now.
With Roa being [EXPUNGED] from all possible records she has no other option than to listen to us.
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>>4642817
Didn't Arc end up with two sets of memories, one with Roa and one without? If Ciel ends up like that, it might not be too hard to convince her.
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>>4642817
Considering the fact that the only people who remember Roa at all are the ones who have had a strong connection with him I think she will notice that everyone except her have forgotten about him.
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>>4642824
Imagine the sheer mindfuck she must be imagining right about now, geez.
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>>4642829
Well shit, it seems my brain blue screened.
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>>4642829
Meeting Ciel in local psycho ward and showing her drawning of Roa. Everyone else except for us, Arc, SHIKI and her just see a blank page.
Nyarly will probably die from laughter.
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>>4642836
>>4642829
The Lovecraftian elements are slowly becoming more prevalent
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I wonder if there will be any more unintended effects...

Calling in 19 minutes.
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>>4642840
we need to headpat her while explaining what happened and telling her that everything will be ok.
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>>4642840
>I wonder if there will be any more unintended effects...
I know one. We're going to fucking toss Kirei out a window for putting a hit on us.
Also, based Alan for laughing at his ass.
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>>4642862
That makes me wonder, what kind of concept would be the worst for Kirei. Empathy?
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>>4642887
i feel like he would be glad if we could make him feel, remember that he did try being a good person it just did nothing to him.
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>>4642900
Or it could take away even the joy he feels in the suffering of others, cursing him with a completely joyless existence.
Well, except for mapu tofu.
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>>4642887
>>4642900
We don't need to fuck with concepts to make Kirei a good person. We just have to convince him to open a Mapo Tofu shop and he will literally be happy and content for life.
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>>4642900
Kirei spent years feeding children to Gilgamesh.
I have no desire to make him happier.
If anything we should tell Rin everything we know about him and let her handle him however she sees fit.
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>>4642900
My hope is that he would just kill himself due to all of the shit he did. But yeah, no world is ready for good Kirei.
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>>4642907
she might get mad at us since we know he killed her father and just didn't tell her, it was for a good reason but still
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>>4642907
I was just telling the other guy how he would feel, i also have no desire for this.
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>>4642906
The kirei from miyu universe never really had that talks with gilgamesh, so there is some differences.
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>I guess I really was the Paradox Reincarnator all along.
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>>4642918
kek
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>>4642918
Lol. That's some "Half-Blood Prince" tier naming.
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>>4642918
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>>4642918
>>4642936
>You dare use my own magecraft against me?! I am the /qst - Fate/Paradox Reincarnator!

Also, immortal SHIKI hype.
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"Um, Shishou. Would you mind... not erasing the memories of Miss Tohno? She has the right to know what happened here today." You make your request of your teacher quite politely. "I also think it might be easier if she knew some of the truth about me." You really can't be bothered to keep trying to hide your secrets from Akiha, especially not now that you've already achieved everything you set out to do.

"Hmm? Oh, of course, Wakame-kun... I take it that you've successfully managed to convince your attackers to come to your side... and...?" Touko takes note of the arrival of SHIKI. The appearance of the boy seems to intrigue Touko far more than it has any right to.

"This is SHIKI Tohno. You might remember him from last night. He's the biological brother of Akiha over there." You point at the girl sleeping in a chair. "And could you wake her up too? I need her to be awake for her brother to talk to, they've got quite a lot to talk about.

"Oh... right, I do remember seeing somebody like him. So, he's free of the Dead Apostle Ancestor's corruption now?" Touko muses, still quite interested in the boy who you granted an ultimate form of immortality to entirely by accident.

"That's right. He's also completely immortal now." You say with a cheerful smile. "There's not a force on this planet that could kill him now, not even Shiki's Mystic Eyes of Death Perception, I'd wager." Touko's eyes widen slightly at your theory of a being on the same level of immortality as an Ultimate One, one with no concept of death whatsoever. SHIKI looks kind of nervous being spoken about like he's some sort of bizarre artifact that belongs in a museum. Though he doesn't really seem to be that bothered by it. "Also, I need at least somebody for these two pests to properly apologize to." You gesture at the two Oni girls, Miho is hanging her head while Ibaraki, in an attempt not to look out of place, follows the actions of her master. You... You really hope that she's looking where she's going. Those two horns are no joke!

You're probably going to need to take responsibility for the actions of the girls, but thankfully, it seems that thanks to Satsuki, Sakura and Touko's efforts, nobody ended up getting hurt. Well, except maybe Kouma, but he probably decided to leave when he saw that the battle was done. You'll be seeing him again, of that you have absolutely no doubt.
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Touko seems to want to ask a question or two about the apparent immortality of this new friend of yours, but instead decides it might be better to discuss such things with you in private... It's probably for the best anyway. You don't feel like this is the best setting for a prolonged discussion about the immortality you just bestowed on the boy, and while in truth it was a group effort between yourself and Roa, one of the parties involved in the 'group effort' doesn't exist, so looks like it's actually all on you. Even if you can't replicate it by yourself and you needed the incredibly specific circumstances of Roa's reincarnation magecraft.

Instead of questioning SHIKI, Touko walks over to Akiha after finishing rewriting the memories of the last of the branch family members and wakes her up by prodding her in the middle of the forehead. The girl wakes up in a fit of coughs. "Are you OK, Miss Tohno? You had... something of a close call thanks to your mixed-blood. My allies and I managed to reverse the state and have already taken the liberty to erase these events from the minds of everyone else here." She looks at you for a moment and blinks a few times.

"Wait a minute... I remember you now! The boy from the hospital! That was you, wasn't it?" Akiha finally seems to recognize you, and you remain calm, ready to counter any ridiculous argument or theory she might have to throw at you, but instead, the girl smiles for just a moment. "I never got the chance to thank you for trying to help me back there, did I?" Unexpectedly, she's not mad... at you. "But you two..." The girl growls as she gets up from her sitting position and walks straight over to the two Oni-girls, she seems to be completely ignoring the presence of SHIKI in the room for now, has she not noticed him? "What the hell do you think you're doing forcing people to become Crimson Red Vermillion?! Don't you understand what that does to a mixed-blood human!? I might not have been able to turn back!" Miho flinches back at Akiha, convinced that the much weaker girl is going to somehow hurt her. Ibaraki is also frowning, though it's less pronounced. It's quite clear that the girl doesn't like being shouted at, but she also very clearly fears Arcueid too much to speak up for herself.

Miho unexpectedly drops to the ground, and then presses her head against the floor. Prostrating herself to Akiha. "I apologize for my careless actions. I was under the impression that your blood worked under the same principles as my own and Ibaraki's. Please accept my apologies for my wrongful actions against you and your kin." Miho then nudges Ibaraki with an elbow, and the Oni quickly follows her Master's lead after being reminded, puncturing the floor with her horns and not even noticing.
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"I'll take responsibility for the actions of these two idiots, and if you need any compensation, I'll be happy to pay out of my own pocket to reimburse you." Seeing these two bumbling morons try to apologize is kind of amusing, actually, but you can't leave them to flounder forever.

Akiha frowns for a moment before she maintains a calm on her face. "I'll accept your apologies, seeing as you clearly didn't know any better, and if your actual targets are willing to forgive you, then It's only right I also do so." Suddenly she blinks in confusion. "Something is... strange with my connection to Shiki? He's... overflowing with energy?" That of all things seems to have completely taken Akiha off guard, and it's at that moment that SHIKI finally gets bored of not being noticed.

"Hello again, Akiha." He smiles happily as he finally looks upon his sister with an uncorrupted mind again. Akiha takes a step backwards in surprise, for as much as you weren't expecting to see the uninverted SHIKI show his face to you, Akiha is currently witnessing something she likely thought would never have been possible.

>Leave SHIKI to talk to Akiha alone. What could go wrong?
>Watch, but remain silent.
>Watch, but only step in to defend SHIKI if he needs it.
>Get involved and support SHIKI as much as you can.
>Write-in..
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>>4642980
>>Watch, but only step in to defend SHIKI if he needs it.
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>>4642980
>>Watch, but only step in to defend SHIKI if he needs it.
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>>4642982
Support
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>>4642980
>>Watch, but only step in to defend SHIKI if he needs it.
>tell akiha that her brother is so fucking immortal that he may survive gaia dying jk
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>>4642980
>>Watch, but only step in to defend SHIKI if he needs it.
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>>4642980
>Watch, but only step in to defend SHIKI if he needs it.
Come on SHIKI, I believe in you.
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>>4642980
>>Watch, but only step in to defend SHIKI if he needs it.


>>4642956
It seems we accidentally a Jack Harkness.
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>>4642980
>Watch, but only step in to defend SHIKI if he needs it.
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>>4642980
>>Watch, but only step in to defend SHIKI if he needs it.
Moral support right? Cause this motherfucker is as immortal as you can get in Nasuverse
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18 minutes till call

>>4643005
>Moral support right?
Well, it's not like immortality = winning every fight.
>Cause this motherfucker is as immortal as you can get in Nasuverse
Yep. Under normal circumstances, Ciel (and hypothetically SHIKI) would've had damage done to them reverted by Gaia trying to resolve an issue, so at their longest would live until around the time of Notes. You sort of moved them up in the chain a little by affixing their existences to an anomaly in the Root itself. Oops!


How did I fuck up responding to a post TWICE?
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>>4643021
Great, so Notes happening is a certainty now!
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>>4643029
I didn't say that.
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>>4643025
well 3rd time's the charm

>Well, it's not like immortality = winning every fight.
Well its more of a safety issue i guess, he was already pretty strong as is and she's scared and cares about him

>so at their longest would live until around the time of Notes
How the fuck did we guarantee someone life for THAT LONG wtf
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>>4642980
>Watch, but only step in to defend SHIKI if he needs it.
I wonder if kohaku is gonna snap once she finds out her entire revenge plan is ruined.
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>>4643037
She can kill SHIKI a little if it makes her feel better.
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>>4643036
>How the fuck did we guarantee someone life for THAT LONG wtf
Oh no that's how long Ciel would've normally lived with just Gaia forcing her to live forever thanks to Roa's continued reincarnating. She'll live till Heat Death now.
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>>4643043
I kinda feel bad now, guess she's gonna be good friends with Arc and SHIKI now
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>>4643037
well its a dumb revenge plan, Makihisa is dead and we're taking SHIKI with us, she can be buddy buddy with Shiki if she wants
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>>4643043
It's kind of amusing how by erasing one person we didn't want to reincarnate we inadvertently created two more immortals of a much more potent variety.
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The face she wouldn't see again.
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>>4643051
ironic, Roa almost got it right, but apparently you need a human sacrifice to do it
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>>4643054
Really, it seems like Truth+Root connection is the key to the most potent effects we can access, which makes sense as Gaia resisting our changes is the primary limitation of Truth magic.
We should keep this experience in mind when we encounter more such connections in the future, as the chance to "trick" the planet into enforcing our will is likely to come up again at some point.
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>>4643072
Well if we go to far, Gaia and/or Alaya sends something to put us down for our crimes
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>>4643077
That's the elegance of it.
Instead of trying to overpower the planet's defenses, we've rewritten them into a new configuration such that Gaia actively resists any attempts to kill SHIKI or Ciel.
The only way I could see this form of manipulation summoning counter guardians is if we were to create a Truth that threatens the existence of humanity.
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>>4643072
Speaking of Root, Manaka2 has to know what we did right? That has to count as us making progress with our power. She better give us back our servants or else she's gonna meet our second newest harem member as of now. Well, we might just send Arc anyways.
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>>4643110
I agree. We might have to visit temple once we are back in Fuyuki so we can get Medea back.
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You consider leaving the room for a moment, but decide against it. You might need to intervene on SHIKI's behalf at some point, after all, Akiha is going to have quite a lot of difficulty in accepting SHIKI coming back to his senses after all that has happened, and you want to make sure that he has somebody to back him up, somebody who understands just what sort of experience SHIKI has had to deal with since Roa forced his inversion when he was a child.

"SHIKI? But... that can't be you... You inverted! I... I saw it! You attacked me and almost killed Shiki!" SHIKI winces at the reminded, and you can tell that it's just as much a painful memory for him now as it is for her. You feel a little bit bad about forcing SHIKI into doing this.

"I... I know I did. I won't ask for your forgiveness for that day. I just want you to understand that... I'm not that person anymore. I... I had wanted to just disappear without saying a word, originally." The inverted SHIKI would never have done something like that, as the insanity of his inversion caused him to become outraged that Shiki would dare steal his life, even though Shiki was innocent of everything. SHIKI back before his inversion requested that Shiki kill him should he ever invert, if you're remembering things correctly.

"SHIKI..." Akiha doesn't seem to know what to make of all that has happened today. "You're... you're not going to go see Shiki, are you?" Seems that she doesn't want the illusion Shiki is under about his true name and family to be broken. A protective lie, but a lie all the same. Does she think that Shiki will hate her after he finds out what the Tohno did to the Nanaya? "This isn't some sort of trick, just so you can get close to Shiki and hurt him again, is it?!" Akiha's disbelief of the situation transforms into anger, thinking that she's simply being tricked by the inverted SHIKI.

"No. It's not." You step in. "Shiki was... possessed, if you'll believe it. A wicked spirit caused him to lose control of himself and attack you when you were younger. I've managed to exorcise the spirit, and as a result, SHIKI has been restored to a normal state." You feel like telling Akiha that SHIKI has achieved a supreme level of immortality might not exactly be helpful for the situation.
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Your words seem to mollify Akiha for a moment, and SHIKI sighs. "Back then... when I attacked Shiki, I joined my life force to his own, so that I would be able to survive my own death, and you shared some of your own life force with Shiki in order to save his life... I was the one siphoning off of that source in order to remain alive. I... I want to make amends for what I did when I was suffering from my inversion, but right now, all I can do is... reverse the flow of life force, so now he's surviving off me instead." Wait... he did? What could that mean for Shiki, if he's being provided with life energy from somebody who has become an unlimited supply of it? You... You're going to need to find Shiki. You don't think the boy is going to be suffering problems with a weak constitution anymore.

"Then... you're why Shiki is pulsing with energy now? But how could you have so much?" Akiha sounds just a little suspicious of the tremendous amount of life energy that SHIKI apparently has now. Of course, she's provided Shiki with the energy he needs to live for years, even at risk to herself inverting.

"I can thank Makiri-san here for that." SHIKI gives you a true smile as he thanks you. You hadn't set out to save SHIKI, because you honestly never thought such a thing possible, but you're genuinely glad that you managed to save him. "Something he did when he got rid of the... wicked spirit possessing me." SHIKI doesn't elaborate any further. You want to tell SHIKI that just Shinji will do fine for your name, but you decide you can do that a little later. "As for going to see Shiki... I don't know if I can face him yet. Him or Kohaku..."

"Kohaku?" Akiha echoes the name of the maid lying unconscious in the corner, while she herself doesn't really buy Kohaku's ditzy maid act, she has no idea just how deep that rabbit hole goes.

"I... I did something unspeakably wrong to her while I was inverted... and she... she never forgave the Tohno for what happened to her." His face is pained as he looks away from the maid. "Just... Just talk to her. You need to help her get over what happened to her. I... I can't even bring myself to look at her after what I did to her." SHIKI must feel horribly guilty over the actions he took while he wasn't truly the one in control of himself. To almost kill his best friend and then to, well... rape Kohaku.

Akiha looks at SHIKI once again. "I understand. I won't forgive you for what you've done. But... I'm glad you've returned to who you once were, SHIKI." She gives her estranged brother a weak smile. "But, you can't stay here." The smile fades. Akiha doesn't sound like she's enjoying the idea of banishing her brother after he's finally returned to his senses, but for Shiki's sake, it looks like she's even willing to go that far.
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"I wasn't planning to, but... this is a load off my mind. Thank you, Akiha." SHIKI turns and walks out of the room in something of a hurry, no longer able to face his painful past. There's a wide happy smile on his face as he leaves the room, and tears in his eyes. Yeah... probably best to give him a moment to himself.

>"So... you still up for that meeting?"
>"You know, you should probably just tell Shiki the truth about his Nanaya heritage."
>"I should follow him, you guys... entertain yourselves while I'm gone?"
>"I ought to go now, do you think we can reschedule this meeting for about... oh I don't know, does next month sound good?"
>Write-in...
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>"So... you still up for that meeting?"

YES!! The ultimate leverage to win her over on the investment scheme!
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>>4643197
>>Wait... he did? What could that mean for Shiki, if he's being provided with life energy from somebody who has become an unlimited supply of it? You... You're going to need to find Shiki. You don't think the boy is going to be suffering problems with a weak constitution anymore
So either Shiki is immortal too or he's a legit superhuman now, either way, he might be able to spam mystic eyes now so i think its time we mold him into DEATH
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>>4643201
>"You know, you should probably just tell Shiki the truth about his Nanaya heritage."
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>>4643201
>"So... you still up for that meeting?"
>"You know, you should probably just tell Shiki the truth about his Nanaya heritage.
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>>4643201
>>"So... you still up for that meeting?"
>>"You know, you should probably just tell Shiki the truth about his Nanaya heritage."
I want Shiki to be our bro so this feels like a natural step forward
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>>4643201
>"You know, you should probably just tell Shiki the truth about his Nanaya heritage."
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>>4643201
>"So... you still up for that meeting?"
Hopefully she doesn't catch on to the fact that this was all an elaborate scheme to distract her from the real issues regarding future market share compositions in Misaki town.
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>>4643231
Sasuga, Makiri-sama.
And this is why you're nearly unmatched in the world of business.
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>>4643201
>>"So... you still up for that meeting?"
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So, did you like today's session, everyone?
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>>4643256
I'm just glad the two retards have settled down.

Whether I'm talking about Miho and Ibaraki or the two bloodlusted anons from last thread is up for interpretation

So... can we get a quick summary update on our affection points?
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>>4643256
It was fair, but as usual you lose marks for the lack of bareback sex with mythological figures and highschool girls.
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>>4643256
well we bullied 2 retards into submission, we made 2 people as immortal as you can in Nasuverse by complete accident and we also accidentally made a super assassin. Good session
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>>4643256
gay and bluepilled
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>>4643262
>can we get a quick summary update on our affection points?
There are a few new additions and a lot of updates I need to gather together from my notes to get that in a presentable form, so uh, hold on, it's coming.
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>>4643271
No you.
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>>4643267
Don't forget about our genius Machiavellian business maneuvering. As soon as the heiress shown defensiveness we had our two minions barge in, we've "protected" Akiha and her constituents, then we didn't remove her memory so that she would then remember our involvement in the hospital earning her trust two fold. And finally to top it off we saved her brother, and her step brother cementing her agreement to our investment into the town of our teacher, which we are trying to improve relations with. THIS IS A MULTI FACETED PLAN YEARS IN THE MAKING AND ALL THE PIECES ARE SETTLING TO OUR BENEFIT!
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>>4643282
DAMN SHIKI, THATS LIKE SIX INCHES OF GIRTH.
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>>4643256
My waifu is potential part of harem and she'll get to see her sis soon hopefully so yes!
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>>4643244
Didnt this plan failed and they died
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>>4643256
Very nice.
We got 2 onis and a bonus SHIKI
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>>4643282
Damn nice.
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>>4643314
The harem route is fraught with dangers so horrific that no man has emerged alive from its maddening depths.
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>>4643320
It was just a excaliblast
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>>4643201
>>"So... you still up for that meeting?"
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>>4643331
The lucky ones die instantly.
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>>4643314
RIP to Shiki and Shirou but I'm different
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Sakura:I've made it worse.
Theorized Affection Score: 99.999/100

Monica: She seems to like me quite a bit, but I'm kind of hoping that she only sees me as some sort of surrogate younger sibling. The implications of her feelings towards me being romantic are kind of frightening. I miss her...
Theorized Affection Score: 84/100

Rin: While I still don't get along with her very well, I feel like our relationship has improved quite a lot, despite us still being far from friends.
Theorized Affection Score: 45/100

Touko: Shishou is... hard to read. Even for somebody like myself, I think that she likes me at least. Well, she has been training me for this long, so I can't see her disliking me else she would've just stopped training me. I still have no idea what she thinks about me.
Theorized Affection Score: ??/100

Illya: I think that after everything that has happened, Illya likes me quite a bit more, unfortunately, I feel like I barely get time to even talk to her. She's definitely very happy I got Avenger back for her though, and I even helped her with her relationship with Shirou. She's clearly a lot happier now.
Theorized Affection Score: 90/100

Aoko: I've only met her once but she seemed to like me. Not really much for me to say here.
Theorized Affection Score 51/100

Akiha: Hey, she's not as angry as I thought she'd be!
Theorized Affection Score 50/100

Luvia: She probably considers me as something of a rival, as well as her superior in martial arts. With any luck, she'll have taken some of the lessons I gave her to heart. Haven't seen her since I kicked her ass. Surprised she didn't come to Fuyuki for the Grail War.
Theorized Affection Score: 45/100

Altrouge: I really REALLY don't want to meet her again. Whatever she has planned for me, I don't really want to find out. I also kind of want to kill her now. I guess I'll just have to see how I feel when I eventually beat her.
Theorized Affection Score: 71/100

Giselle: Giselle doesn't often show what little emotions she has, but she does seem to be at least somewhat fond of me. I think she might like me just as a result of Illya liking me more.
Theorized Affection Score: 64/100

Gray: Gray is impossibly hard to read, but she does seem to like me quite a bit. She just has difficulty speaking up. I haven't seen her for a while.
Theorized Affection Score: 70/100

Sacchin: Well, I think my intervention in saving Satsuki has turned her crushing on me into something far far greater.
Theorized Affection Score: 99/100

Arcueid: I think that I may have accidentally made her fall in love with me through my actions in a single day. I might be in trouble here.
Theorized Affection Score: 98/100

Lugh: I haven't spent nearly enough time around Lugh to get a proper read on him.
Theorized Affection Score: ??/100
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Shirou: Good old Shirou. Easily my best friend, and for good reason too. He's just such a nice guy.
Theorized Affection Score: Irrelevant.

Shiki: I don't think he likes me much for just barging into his life and having the audacity to not be a cute girl as I did it.
Theorized Affection Score: 44.44/100

SHIKI: Is obviously thankful for saving him from the cruel fate he would have otherwise suffered.
Theorized Affection Score: 86/100

Waver: Waver seems to consider me a strange sort of friend. He'll try to help out when he can, but I think I might be causing him to be even more stressed out than usual. I decided I'd help him out in turn for once through my letter to him, so I hope he's appreciative.
Theorized Affection Score: 75/100

Medea: I think she might be planning on trying to marry me.
Theorized Affection Score: 99/100

Tamamo: I KNOW she's planning on marrying me
Theorized Affection Score: 99/100

Fox pup: It liked me... I guess?
Theorized Affection Score: 75/100

Shuten: I mean, it's Shuten-Dōji, it's not like getting her to like you is really that difficult. Surviving her is the hard part
Theorized Affection Score: 80/100

Ibaraki: Doesn't seem to trust me right now, but doesn't seem to hate me.
Theorized Affection Score: 50/100

Miho: I've only just met her, but she doesn't seem to hate or dislike me after I explained the meaning behind my actions to her.
Theorized Affection Score: 55/100

Betty: Girl is pretty unreadable, but she clearly likes me a lot.
Theorized Affection Score: 90?/100?

Bazett: Didn't spend nearly enough time with her, but she seems to be alright with me as a leader... I need to rescue her.
Theorized Affection Score: 50/100

Archer: How am I supposed to read this lying asshole? Still need to rescue him though.
Theorized Affection Score: ??/100

Lancer: Well he didn't seem to mind me?
Theorized Affection Score: 60/100

Ruby: I'm not near insane enough to comprehend the thoughts of this damn magic wand.
Theorized Affection Score: ??/100

Amethyst: The star acts like it likes me, but that might just be how it's programmed to act.
Theorized Affection Score: 75?/100

Rider: She likes me, especially after I gave her that car. I think my efforts in saving Sakura may have been helpful for that too.
Theorized Affection Score: 77/100

Avenger: Obviously appreciates me saving him from Manaka, I should spend some time with him to get to know him better.
Theorized Affection Score: 75/100

Kouma: We fought together one time, and then he disappeared. I guess he liked my martial arts skills?
Theorized Affection Score: 50/100

Alan Y.T Thorpe: I don't have the faintest idea about this guy.
Theorized Affection Score: ???/???

Mordred: She was willing to disobey the orders of her Master for me. I think she might like me...? We haven't spoken much.
Theorized Affection Score: 75/100
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Arturia: Well, she's Shirou's Servant, but she seems to respect me as a leader at least.
Theorized Affection Score: 65/100

Ciel: Again, basically unreadable. I feel like she might have a few things to say about me killing Roa though...
Theorized Affection Score: ??/100

Kirei: Fuck him.
Theorized Affection Score: 0/100

Zouken: Him too.
Theorized Affection Score: 0/100

Right Manaka/Left Manaka: Affection points? Are you nuts? Why would the final boss have affection points?
Theorized Affection Score: No.

That brings us to the end of
Shinji's Affection Analysis.
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I hope you enjoy an up-to-date analysis on basically every damn character.
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Yeah, it's about as bad as I thought it was...

>>4643428
Thanks for the hard work boss!
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>>4643416
>>4643419
>>4643421
Alright so we gotta farm bond points with Rin, Lugh, Shiki and Saber. Maybe Illya if we want another yandere harem member, not like it matters anymore, most of the people that have a crush on us would rip us open if we reject them or choose someone that's not them
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>>4643433
>Lugh
Pfft.
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The best way to bond with shiki is to include him into a valentine's day scheme with shirou involved. Our plans shall be significantly magnified with shinji involved.
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>>4643421
Thanks for the affection points update QM.

I find it really funny that shinji befriended the wrong SHIKI tohno rather than the intended one.
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>>4643441
I think its extremely funny how the woman we had like, one conversation with likes us more than the girl we spend a good chunk of our time with, even funnier is that I think Rin is based off of Aoko or vice versa
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>>4643421
But i dont want to fuck kirei
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>>4643451
How about now?
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>>4643451
Agreed, we have far too much fucking to do to fit him into our schedule.
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>>4643457
She will black key my ass and steal my command seals
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>>4643445
Yeah that's why we have to get rin's affection score up even if we're not trying to fuck her.
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>>4643421
Right Manaka/Left Manaka: Affection points? Are you nuts? Why would the final boss have affection points?
Theorized Affection Score: No.

NOOOOOO!!
Also medea wanting to marry us is cute. Is polygamy allowed where we live?
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>>4643464
There's not really anyone else to bond with, Shiki and Rin are the only real people left that are on our side at this moment that don't have a high opinion of. I just hope we get into a situation that forces us to work together or we don't do what we always do and choose one of the girls that are already obsessed with us to hangout with during slice of life time.

>>4643472
well we're rich and she comes from a time where great men were expected to have a harem of women or at least have a few bastards running around so unironically, its looking good for us
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>>4643472
We're a billionaire ceo with the ability to hypnotize people, unlawful polygamy is the least we could get away with.
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>>4643487
>>4643485
Nice. Let's go for it.
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>>4643472
I say we walk straight up to Left Manaka and ask for a blowjob.
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>>4643500
Redemption arc for left death for right.
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>>4643504
>Shinji asks for 3 allies
>my vote is Shuten, Medea, Archer
>Shinji says he has one more thing he wants
>Left Manaka is all ears, Right Manska salty as ever
>Shinji begins to casually stroll up to Left Manaka, openly and without any fear
>both watch in curiosity and silent amazement at the sheer bravado
>Shinji stops within a few meters of Left Manaka
>beckons her close to whisper to her something he doesn't want Right Manaka to hear
>Left Manaka, in the position of power, complies
>Shinji: "I want to fuck you, right here and now, in front of your twin sister. I want you full of my semen to the point you never want to be without it."
What would happen?
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>>4643524
Maybe a slap then hatefuck.
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>>4643524
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>>4643524
That would be very hot.
A very lewd bad ending.
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>>4643524
You had me until you said Shuten instead of Medusa
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>>4643256
So why did Shinji offer to ressurect whoever that miko gurl wanted?
I was under the impression that we were hiding our abilities as much as possible. Even our closest friends like Monica and Shirou have no clue about nature or extent of our abilities.
But now Shinji just offers ressurection to a girl whom he met ten minutes ago? Why?
Will we be offering to Sakura and Rin to ressurect their father? Will we be offering to Illya to ressurect her mother?
Will we be offering to Shiki to ressurect his family? Will we be offering to Shirou to ressurect his parents?
Or is this offer exclusive to QM's OC?
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>>4643555
>Will we be offering to Shirou to ressurect his parents?
I meant Satsuki.
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If she asks sure, otherwise it's an insult to the memory of them.
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>>4643568
Are her parents dead?
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>>4643568
Well that sentence still works and her parents aren't dead, they weren't in the house when we found her
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>>4643555
He feels bad about crushing her wish when it was a perfectly pure and innocent one.
That's all.
He also erased a man from every timeline last night, so he's feeling a little more confident in his powers.
Also, he can tell that Miho is a total magic layman so didn't see the harm in trying to give her some sort of hope.

And yes, if he was asked he'd consider attempting the same for any of his allies.

>>4643568
Why do you think they are even dead?
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>>4643579
>>4643582
>>4643584
>Why do you think they are even dead?
It was just a guess.
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>>4643584
See >>4643524?
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>>4643591
I did.

If you really want to see what happens I suggest you fuck around and find out.
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>>4643587
Sometimes it feels like they're dead, as they're just as absent and unaddressed as the progenitors of all our dead parent having friends.
It's just kind of weird that they've never been mentioned despite Shinji meeting with Sacchin for years at this point.
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>>4643596
Well they’re normies and just unmentioned characters both in canon and in this quest.
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>>4643201
>"So... you still up for that meeting?"
>"You know, you should probably just tell Shiki the truth about his Nanaya heritage.
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>>4643201
>>"So... you still up for that meeting?"
>>"You know, you should probably just tell Shiki the truth about his Nanaya heritage."

Thank you for everything OP
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>>4643419
marry medea.
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This quest is based off an eroge visual novel, doesn't surprise me much about the motivations of the players.
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>>4643849
Just because it's based on an eroge doesn't mean that everyone is here for the sex scenes.
Personally, I am here because I liked the premise and I have been waiting for the quest ever since /a/ threads.
I wouldn't mind if there were some scenes but I won't be upset even if there is none as long as the story reaches some kind of satisfying conclusion.
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>>4643865
I agree with you, this quest is good enough on its own that it doesn't need explicit content. With that being said, we either get the fucking harem end or we die trying.
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>>4643865
>>4643901
But I want to read raw, hot, steamy sex with Medea with hand holding.
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>>4643908
I am not against that but if the only thing that I wanted to get out of this quest was sex scenes I would just go to Akun.
There are so many Fate related sex quests on that site that one could spend years reading them all.
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>>4643915
Sure, I don't want a porn quest either. But I find it kind of strange how we have a 18 year old billionaire with many girls after his dick who's still a virgin.
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>>4643901
Ngl, i really fucking hate the idea of harem endings. But i'm here for the ride anyway, this quest is pretty great regardless.
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>>4643918
Well to be fair most of them only joined us days ago and shit has been hectic as fuck since. Before that our acquaintances were Rin, Sakura, Touko and Monika. None of them, or the one we're with now, look like they would be satisfied by casual flings either.

I'd say developing a romantic relationship would be best left for however brief timeskip there would be after this war, but given what we're up against, that might take a while.
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>>4643918
Sure but the thing is that we are in the middle of a war and the girls who want our dick are also our most powerful fighters and advisors.
As long as we pretend to be retarded everything remains in the equilibrium but the moment we start giving special attention to one of them we enter a very dangerous territory.
That's why fraternization is frowned upon in the military. In our case however it's already too late.
Our best bet is to drag it out as long as possible and hope that the war ends soon. Then we can resolve it one way or another without risking loosing an important subordinate in the middle of a war.
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>>4643924
>>4643925
Well, it's a logical argument.
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>>4643865
Said this before, saying it again. As long as
>Shinji "wins" in some way, surviving intact somehow
>Shinji fucks at least one girl, and after surviving the grail war, knocks them up
Then I'm content and the quest is great
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>Meeting
>>4643211
>>4643231
>>4643253
>>4643335

>Tell Shiki truth
>>4643215
>>4643226

>Meeting and Truth
>>4643219
>>4643224
>>4643697
>>4643725

We're... tied?
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>>4643973
oh, i dont think i voted
>Meeting and Truth
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>>4643973
I was asleep but voting now
>Meeting and Truth
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"You know... you should probably tell Shiki the truth about what he is, Miss Tohno." You sigh as the girl's eyes snap on to you. "Don't you think he has a right to know what he really is? Who he really is?" It'll probably be easier if you get Akiha to tell Shiki what he is instead of doing so yourself or getting SHIKI to do it, especially as SHIKI clearly doesn't want to.

"How much do you know?" Akiha's voice is quiet, and you can tell that she's not exactly happy with this conversation either, but she knows that getting mad now wouldn't actually solve or do anything at all, considering just what an overwhelming force you have with you.

"I know enough to know that you don't need to hide who he is from him. Shiki isn't going to suddenly hate you if you tell him who he really is. He might've held a grudge against your father, but your father is dead." You look Akiha dead in the eyes. "One day, your father's second rate hypnosis is going to wear off by itself, the man wasn't a magus." You didn't mean to insult Makihisa's memory there, but honestly, he was kind of an asshole as well. What sort of lunatic hires a child maid to 'Synchronize' with? You're glad that SHIKI killed him, honestly. If he hadn't you may very well have done so yourself upon finding him alive.

"So... you're saying I should just tell him everything?" Akiha sounds skeptical of your suggestion, and is clearly waiting for you to elaborate upon it.

"Absolutely. Though if I were you, I'd not bring up the whole clan eradication part too much... though honestly, it's not like he would care if he were a true Nanaya." The Nanaya were a truly odd clan, after all.

"What?" Akiha doesn't sound like she believes what you just said, so you elaborate for the girl.

"The Nanaya... They were humans born, raises and trained to be monsters to fight against other monsters. Such things as family relations and empathy meant little to the men of the Nanaya. They only lived for the fight." Shiki's father, Kiri Nanaya, was one of the few men who could scare even Kouma Kishima, despite only having the strength of a human. "Were Shiki to somehow have the mindset of the Nanaya hidden within him, that same man wouldn't care that his family were slaughtered... It's... actually for the better that it happened, at least for Shiki. It's a chance for him to be more than just an emotionless killer of demons." You shrug.

Akiha looks miserable as you tell her just what the Nanaya were like, but there's a small amount of relief mixed in with the misery, the relief of knowing that even if it was by accident, the destruction of the Nanaya allowed Shiki to become an actual person. Of course, that doesn't absolve her of the guilt or the sin of her family's crime against Shiki's family, but at the very least allows some small measure of comfort. "You... maybe I should tell Shiki..."
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You allow Akiha a few minutes to think in silence, even though out of the corner of your eye you can see Miho and Satsuki attempting to help Satsuki get her horns out of the floorboards without causing too much damage. That's what you get when you dogeza with horns, you dumb oni. After Akiha seems to get her thoughts in order, you run a hand through your hair and chuckle a little. "Well, now that business is out of the way, I do actually want to invest into Misaki Town, so should we continue the meeting?"

Akiha seems completely and totally stunned by your sudden declaration, the fact that even after everything that just happened and all that you know about the secrets of the Tohno, you still want to go ahead with the meeting. "You know what? I'll just approve any plans you put forward to me. I don't really think I can beat you in business after seeing all this." The very fact that you want to go ahead with the meeting after defeating two bloodthirsty Oni and the entirety of the other occupants of the meeting in addition to everything else. Clearly, Akiha's threshold for how much is too much is quite a lot lower than your own threshold. "It might be a pain explaining it to the branch families, but after all that's happened today, it's clear that if you really wanted to, you and your allies could just hypnotize everyone into agreeing to whatever you wanted anyway." Akiha observes quite calmly.

You hold your hands up to protest your innocence. "Miss Tohno, in all my time as the owner of both Makiri Enterprises and Makiri Industries, I've never stooped to such a level of foul play. After all, why cheat when you don't actually have to?" For somebody with all the cards, what use is an ace up your sleeve?

Touko takes a draw on her cigarette. "Well, I did implant the memory that everyone here thinks the meeting went well, but most of my students meetings aren't interrupted by Oni attacking him... I should hope." Well, that's not really backing up what you're saying, but Akiha doesn't seem to really care. Odds are that the meeting would've gone exceptionally well had the attack not happened anyway.

"T-thank you, Shishou." Not exactly helpful there, Touko, but at least she's telling the truth, and you're not going to get accused of deceiving Akiha at a later date.
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"Be that as it may, I'm going to need some time to myself for now. You may feel free to entertain yourself in whatever way you see fit in the mansion till you decide to depart... Just don't tell Shiki about himself if you bump into him. I think I ought to be the one responsible for that." That's fair enough, you think.

>Leave Akiha and go looking for SHIKI. You probably ought to talk with him alone.
>Leave Akiha be and return to your room, make a few phone calls in order to get everyone together. You've got some planning to do.
>Try to wake Betty up before leaving. You can't believe she slept through all of that.
>Leave Akiha and return to town, you should be able to get everyone together now.
>Write-in...
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>>4644016
>>Leave Akiha be and return to your room, make a few phone calls in order to get everyone together. You've got some planning to do.
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>>4644016
>Leave Akiha be and return to your room, make a few phone calls in order to get everyone together. You've got some planning to do
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>>4644016
>>Leave Akiha and go looking for SHIKI. You probably ought to talk with him alone.
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>>4644016
>Leave Akiha be and return to your room, make a few phone calls in order to get everyone together. You've got some planning to do.
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>>4644016
>>Leave Akiha be and return to your room, make a few phone calls in order to get everyone together. You've got some planning to do.

Do check on Betty too, though, confirm she's just sleeping.
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20 minutes till call.
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>>4644015
>even though out of the corner of your eye you can see Miho and Satsuki attempting to help Satsuki get her horns out of the floorboards without causing too much damage.
Poor Sacchin. She spontaneously grew horns, got them stuck in the floor and then had to summon a doppelganger of herself to get them unstuck.
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>>4644051
It looks like she still hasn't got the hang of her powers.
Who knew Dead Apostles had horns?
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>>4644051
Oh uh.
Oops.
That's what I get for only looking for spelling mistakes and grammar errors in my proofreading.
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>>4644016
>>Leave Akiha and go looking for SHIKI. You probably ought to talk with him alone.
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>>4644016
>>Leave Akiha and return to town, you should be able to get everyone together now.
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>>4644016
>Leave Akiha be and return to your room, make a few phone calls in order to get everyone together. You've got some planning to do.
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>>4644016
>Leave Akiha be and return to your room, make a few phone calls in order to get everyone together. You've got some planning to do.

Hopefully Betty is alright. I know she doesn’t like it when we aren’t with her for long periods of time.
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>>4644078
She is with us tho. She is in spirit form.
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>>4644016
Wasn't it banana whose horns were stuck?

Leave Akiha be and return to your room, make a few phone calls in order to get everyone together. You've got some planning to do.
>Try to wake Betty up before leaving. You can't believe she slept through all of that
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Hmm.
Hehehe.
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"Well, I may speak to you at some point later, Miss Tohno. Until then, I must be off, there are many things I must attend to." Namely, your plan for just what you want to do next. "Everyone, please follow me, I wish to discuss what exactly is to be done about our current situation." You're going to need to make a few phone calls, of course, but of all of your allies, only Sakura and Shirou can be relied on to actually carry mobile phones... and Sakura is currently with you right now. You ought to see if Illya wants one at some point.

The journey back to your room with everyone is a short one, and though the meeting didn't feel like it took that long, the sun is already setting. Damn these short January days. You check your connection to Betty and find she managed to fall asleep somewhere outside the meeting room while still remaining in spiritual form. You decide that it's probably for the best if you just left her be for now. It's not like you need to wake her up right now, you're only going to be doing some planning, and no offense to Betty, but she's not really helpful for that sort of stuff. Other than perhaps clarifying just what her abilities are capable of doing.

"Everyone, feel free to go about doing your own things while I make a phone call to Shirou." There's really no point in keeping them hanging around you while you simply make a phone call to Shirou to ask him to get everyone together. You were expecting some grumbling, but Arcueid seems more than happy to go and explore the Tohno Mansion by herself, while Sakura says something about how she wants to see if she can help the maids prepare dinner. Touko you think wanders off in the direction of the basement again, and you have absolutely no idea where Ibaraki and Miho vanish off to. Probably off to cause trouble.

You take your phone and begin dialing Shirou, who quickly picks the phone up and answers you, his voice low. "Shinji? What's going on? Saber and I are tracking this guy right now... Saber thinks he might be trouble, we're just outside the..." Shirou takes a moment to confirm his surroundings, and your heart sinks. "...Misaki Grand Hotel." Oh. Shit.

"What does he look like?" You force the words out, more a command to know than it is a question. You've already got an idea as to just who this might be, but you need to confirm it.

"He's... tall, and he's wearing a dark blue trenchcoat, he's got gray hair and his skin is pale. Do you know anybody like that?" Oh damn it! God damn this city! How many Dead Apostle Ancestors are going to show up here? You were expecting him to make an appearance at some point, but you were hoping Arcueid regaining more of her power would scare him off.
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"Do not approach him. Do not allow him to realize you're following him either. That guy is way too dangerous for you and Saber to take on alone. Wait for me to arrive, I'll be there as quickly as I can!" You hang up the phone and look at the command spell on the back of your hand. Nrvnqsr Chaos is an opponent who is beyond most people, and gathering the entire group would take more time than you can spare, right now, you need to be as fast as you can be, you can't afford being slowed down.

>Select all allies you want to take to face Nrvnqsr Chaos. (Each ally will take time to find.)
>>Sakura
>>Miho and Ibaraki
>>Arcueid
>>Touko
>>Nobody.

>>4644106
It was an error. It was meant to read Ibaraki. Satsuki hasn't got horns, obviously.
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>>4644119
>>Sakura
>>Arcueid
Sakura should be able to actually kill him.
Arcueid is just here for support.
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>>4644119
>Sakura
>Arcueid
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>>4644119
where tf is Shiki
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>>4644119
>>>Nobody.
We buffed Shirou and Saber is with him. The three of us should be fine and I kind of want to see what Shirou can do after we loaded his brain with stuff.
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>>4644124
Isn't he in school right now?
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>>4644127
well we're dragging him the fuck out then, he's learning death point or we're nuking India
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>>4644124
Yeah, he's just a little late home from school right now. It's only about 4:30PM now, still just about daytime.
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>>4644119

>Sakura

not entirely sure about Arcueid, it feels almost too obvious we'd take her for this.

Maybe we run across SHIKI when looking for Sakura, that would be nice...

Fuck this is going to be an eventful night isn't it? With Altrouge and Rizo at large as well...
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>>4644134
>not entirely sure about Arcueid
She is our best asset. Why wouldn't we take her?
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>>4644119
>Sakura
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>>4644134
>>4644136
she could squish Nrvnqsr wdym
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>>4644119
>Sakura
>Arcueid
Going with >>4634467
>She presumably stomps Nrvnqsr like he's six hundred and sixty six bugs there
Arc should be useful and Sakura can kill him for good.
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Reminder that we need to fully erase Nrvnqsr like we did with Roa or we need Shiki here. He's genuinely too hard to kill and even when Shiki killed him, the chaos in his body took on a different host
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>>4644142
We don't need to do shit. Sakura will just consume him together with all his beasts.
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>>4644119
>sakura
>arcueid
>explain quite fast what is happening for any allies that you don't take with you
>tell the onis to not fuck up anything
>REMEMBER TO BUY FUCKING PHONES FOR EVERYONE LATER
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>>4644119
>>Sakura
>>Arcueid
Nrvnqsr Fact: The name Nrvnqsr is actually pronounced "Nero Caesar" and is a corruption of the Russian spelling for the emperor of the same name.
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>>4644155
>a corruption of the Russian spelling for the emperor of the same name.
I don't mean to call you a liar but that sounds like bullshit.
The name "Nero" translates to russian as "Hepoн" (Neron) and "Caesar" in context of roman empire translates as "Цeзapь" (Cesar').
I might be wrong but the name "Nrvnqsr" just seems like a meaningless letter mash-up.
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>>4644166
Nrvn - Hepoн
qsr - Цeзapь
I assume it is possible to mumble it like that.
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>>4644166
its just a degradation of the word
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>>4644170
>>4644172
I don't know man. I have no intention to engage in a discussion on a phonetic structure of the russian language.
The more probable explanation to this is the same as for Saber being called Altria. Nasu just doesn't know foreign languages.
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>>4644119
>Sakura
>Arcueid
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10 minutes till I call.
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>>4644119
>Sakura
>Arcueid

Lets go bros.
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>>4644175
>Altria
that's probably because japanese don't distinguish between "r" and "l"

never seen it spelled out but I imagine it's something like aruturia
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>>4644201
yeah its something like Arturia, Nasu almost got it right, Artorias is name that Arthur is derived from
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>>4644201
It's アルトリア - Arutoria, the proper translation should be Artoria, based on Artorius.

Altria is the first thing you get when you run アルトリア through Google Translate. Which should tell you something about the team translating FGO.
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>>4644216
>>4644201
>>4644175
>>4644172
>>4644170
>>4644166
>>4644155
Who fucking cares?!
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>>4644223
i do this is important
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>>4644223
A good six people, seeing as you mass replied to all of them. Are you allergic to discussion or just autistic?
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>>4644231
It's discussion that isn't pertinent to this thread.
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>>4644235
we're literally about to fight Nrvnqsr
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>>4644235
>Discussion about fate characters currently appearing in a fate quest in a fate thread.
>Not pertinent
So you're just autistic. Good to know.
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>>4644240
Wojack.gif
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>>4644216
actually that's product of google translate trying to interpret meaning of the word because if you look it up symbol by symbol it's "a ru (or lu) to ri a"
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>>4644247
>>4644240
there's no need to get agitated, we're just talking about a semi relevant snippet of trivia, it's not like we were trying to destroy each other over something emotional.
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I won't be able to follow the thread today, so I would like to post my assault plan right now.

1) Scout out enemy base using Betty's familiars and Touko's divination.
2) Give our allies all the information we have on the enemy.
3) I don't think splitting our forces is a good idea. Even though taking everyone to battle is dangerous leaving our weaker allies alone in a place that is not protected by bounded fields where a single DAA would be able to kill them all is even more dangerous.
4) Considering the fact that we've got a number of mages and Avenger who specializes in ranged combat it's obvious that we have advantage in open field battle. Therefore, our goal in the first phase of battle should be attracting enemy attention and forcing them out into the open.
In order to achieve that we should open battle with a volley of magic and Avenger's arrows. No need to go all out at this point since we are unlikely to deal any serious damage.
5) Once the battle begins we should arrange our forces in this manner:
Avenger and Touko and Shinji against Sword dude. Touko said she came up with some counter measures against his time magic.
Shirou and Saber will handle Mordred. Stab her with Rule Breaker and have Touko contract her. After that, Saber can assist us with sword dude.
Beo and Ibaraki will distract Primate Murder. Their goal is not defeating him bur rather holding him away from our other allies.
Arcueid will be facing off against Altrouge.
Nrvnqsr can be dealt with by Betty and Sakura. His animals shouldn't be able to even scratch Betty and her Mystic Eyes should be able to hold him in place. Once he is immobilized Sakura will vore him.
Zepia is an unknown factor. Is he crazy like in Tsukihime? Is he sane and the head of Atlas like in Fate? In any case if he shows up Arcueid will have to use her Marble Phantasm.
That other pirate guy is also an unknown. I assume we can tank his ship with our Truth barrier. Other than that I have no clue.
6) Everyone else will be reacting to the situation helping main fighters when necessary. Mostly they should stay at some distance from main fighting and just snipe.
7) I am kinda scared that once we begin attacking our enemies will try to retreat instead of retaliating. Perhaps we could camouflage our main forces (Arc, Beo, Touko) with magic to trick our enemies into thinking that we brought only mages and some servants with us.

Please give me some feedback. I am talking to you in particular WhatIsAQM. I am not asking for meta-information. I am asking you to review this as if you were a player. Would you vote for this plan? Would you change something?
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>>4644259
>That other pirate guy is also an unknown. I assume we can tank his ship with our Truth barrier. Other than that I have no clue.
He has a reality marble of his own that destroyed a cancel, i wouldn't be surprised if his ship is full of vampire mobs
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>>4644252
Yes. Because Google Translate is retarded and gave us such gems as "Salomon" and "Uncle Man Diaz"

The fact that they're using it at all means they have no idea what they're actually translating and should be the last people translating anything.
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>>4644270
You're retarded
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>>4643416
>>4643419
>>4643421
I'm looking at the affection list again and just realizing that anything above a 90 is the yandere zone. I'm starting to think that a 100/100 is just full blown obsession and murder any girl that looks at us
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>>4644286
100/100 is obsession plus a dicking
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>>4644259
Well, it's not a bad plan, but I can't really say much about it when I have the bias of knowing exactly what is going to happen...
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>>4644292
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>>4644259
Almost forgot to mention, in the proposed sequel for Tsukihime, Rizo was supposed to be Shiki's rival and archenemy, I kinda wanna recreate that now
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>>4644299
Has she shown up yet?
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>>4644313
no
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>>4644293
Is the vote called?
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>>4644328
Yes.
Sakura and Arcueid.
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>>4644259
this is quite nice.
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Damn it! You need to get Arcueid... Arcueid and Sakura! Those two are your best bet at being able to not just defeat Nrvnqsr, but also to destroy him once and for all. Arcueid as she is now might not have the actual capacity to destroy Nrvnqsr, but his six hundred and sixty six beasts should no longer be an issue to her. Meanwhile, Sakura with her ability to open up a portal to her inner world of nullification through her shadows should be able to drag the Dead Apostle down to meet a destruction even the chaotic matter that makes up his body will be able to save him from. While you would like to be able to gather together all of your allies, before taking on such an opponent, these two are about the minimum you can take with you and still be guaranteed the ability to kill the Dead Apostle Ancestor once and for all.

You begin racing through the mansion, first heading towards the kitchen, Sakura said that was where she was heading, so with any luck you'll be able to catch her there. Freely reinforcing your body as you sprint through the corridor, the doors pass you by in a blur of speed, and it only takes you about twenty two seconds until you've reached the door to the kitchen, the corners you had to turn unfortunately slowing you down.

When you reach the kitchen you see something you hadn't expected to see, and you see Arcueid chatting with Sakura, even if Sakura doesn't seem to be enjoying the subject of the conversation. You think you can hear Arcueid saying your name just as you round the corner, but your arrival puts a quick end to the conversation. You're lucky that the two of them ended up in the same place, and you keep things short. "There's a Dead Apostle Ancestor at the hotel. Shirou and Saber are in danger." Both Arcueid and Sakura's faces go from momentarily confused to determined in an instant. "Follow me, I'll explain the abilities of our opponent on the way."

Of course, when you said, 'follow me' you hadn't expected to have to carry Sakura in a princess carry simply because she isn't fast enough by herself to just run after you and Arcueid, you had considered allowing Arcueid to carry her, but honestly, you prefer this outcome. You explain just what it is that Nrvnqsr is capable of doing and just why he's such a threat to Sakura, though Arcueid probably already knows at least to some degree about the powers of this opponent, it still can't hurt to tell her exactly how they work.
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You arrive at the hotel just in time to see the battle between Saber and the Dead Apostle begin, as Saber dashes forwards to intercept a stampede of some of Nrvnqsr's weaker beasts that are emerging from his shadow towards the Hotel, clearly wishing to feed upon the innocent people within. With an explosion of magical energy, at least six of the beasts are completely destroyed. "Hmmph, a Servant?" Nrvnqsr seems to adjust himself to the sudden appearance of a new foe. "I was wondering just what sort of being it was that my beasts could feel, and it turns out to be a spirit? I have no use for you." The trench coat wearing vampire sends another of his beasts towards the sword wielding Servant, a huge tiger, though again, Saber cuts it down with relative ease.

"I won't allow you to harm an innocent person while I am your opponent." Saber calmly states as she warily eyes the vampire opposing her. "I can't allow something like you to do as you please, monster." Saber dashes forwards to strike at Nrvnqsr, but only ends up striking another beast that emerges from his body to intercept her, her instincts more than great enough to react to any surprise Nrvnqsr might try to use "Your summoned familiars are no match for me." Saber seems to have calmly observed Nrvnqsr's capabilities and is relatively confident in her observations, though you know that the Dead Apostle Ancestor is still holding back from using his more powerful beasts on this unknown opponent. His ability to gauge Saber's strength is far worse than Saber's own ability to gauge his.

"Of course, the one weakness of a Servant is that... well, you're naught but a powerful familiar!" Nrvnqsr allows himself to smile as two torrents of beasts emerge from his body, one racing towards Saber and the other heading towards the considerably less well defended Shirou, who, to his credit, has traced two swords. Not Kanshou and Bakuya as you would've expected, but no... Aren't those two blades Diarmuid's swords? When did he get the opportunity to see those? Of course, Shirou's own performance against the beasts is irrelevant, as before anyone else can make a move, Arcueid sweeps in and crushes the beasts before they can reach Shirou, turning into a mad blur of movement as she absolutely destroys the line of monsters, Saber on the other hand is destroying each and every one of the beasts with machine-like precision, glad that back-up has arrived. "Oh, and it seems that tonight, my target has come to me." Nrvnqsr loses almost all of his interest in Saber as he he now focuses his attention on the True Ancestor. Of course, the beasts that have been destroyed by the combined efforts of the two powerful women return to Nrvnqsr, reabsorbed into his chaos.
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You look at Sakura, and you realize that this fight is still in its early stages, Saber, Arcueid and Nrvnqsr have yet to reveal any of their aces, like Nrvnqsr bringing out more powerful beasts or transforming into his ultimate form. Of course, there's also the Soil of Genesis to worry about... While it's not like you're worried about Arcueid losing now she's at fifty percent of her power, there's a certain danger that Nrvnqsr represents through the composition of his body...

>Have Sakura attack Nrvnqsr now. End him before he gets the chance to make himself a threat.
>Wait for an opportunity to arise before telling Sakura to attack.
>Attack Nrvnqsr yourself. You might not be able to hit one of his death points like Shiki, but a blade made of Truth ought to do damage!
>Allow the battle to continue a little longer before taking any action. Saber and Arcueid seem to be doing well enough right now.
>Write-in...
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>>4644354
>>Have Sakura attack Nrvnqsr now. End him before he gets the chance to make himself a threat.
>>Write-in...
Prepare to protect Sakura with your Truth Magic in case Nrvnqsr tries to retaliate.
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>>4644354
>>Wait for an opportunity to arise before telling Sakura to attack.
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>>4644354
>Wait for an opportunity to arise before telling Sakura to attack.
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I wonder if it would be possible to synchronize with Sakura's attack in such manner that someone observing the fight from afar would misunderstand her powers.

Her ribbons should hamper his abilities, even before she captures him, right? Could we use either runes, or just small bolts of truth to conserve power for such a misdirection to make it appear our attacks are ones that weaken him and Sakura's ribbons are only grappling him in place?
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>>4644354
>Wait for an opportunity to arise before telling Sakura to attack
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15 minute till calling.
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>>4644354
>Wait for an opportunity to arise before telling Sakura to attack.
If he is caught with ribbons during a solid opening he's done.
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>>4644354
>Wait for an opportunity to arise before telling Sakura to attack
>ask arcueid if she can make a opening
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Actually, best make it 30, I'm cooking.
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>>4644400
Whatcha cooking
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>>4644354
>Wait for an opportunity to arise before telling Sakura to attack.
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>>4644402
Pasta and meatballs.
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>>4644405
Medea likes balls
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>>4644405
At least it's not pasta with ketchup.
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>>4644400
My endgame is that we reach a point where our life is a SoL anime.
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>>4644354
Hmm... although it doesn't seem like he's gonna be ever more distracted than he is now by Arc and Saber, I'm a bit worried if he has any tricks that could surprise us despite our foreknowledge.
>Wait for an opportunity to arise
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>>4644354
>Wait for an opportunity to arise before telling Sakura to attack.
If we do this, its more likely we won’t fuck things up or end up seeing Taiga (wherever she is right now):
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>>4644414
My goal is for us to reach this tier too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emb66UNsr54
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>>4644426
Yes.
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>>4644421
I'm telling you, he's gonna get triggered.
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>>4644409
Who the fuck eat pasta with ketchup?
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>>4644459
"White" Americans, mostly boomers. I didn't believe it was possible to be this retarded when it comes to food until I gagged seeing a kid in my school that ate ketchup with rice back when I was in elementary school.
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>>4644461
Once I ate pasta with sweet and sour sauce, my friend made. It was one of the most disgusting things I have ever tasted.
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>>4644461
I'm not even italian and I want to puke just thinking about it. Americans are mentally ill when it comes to food. Except for barbecues.
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>>4644466
Thats foul, that poor kid probably thought he was eating a special version of chow mein that his parents made. Boomers are a strange breed.
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>>4644461
The baffling thing isn't that its bad, its that up to the point the food was served nobody had it in themselves to reflect on what they had made.
There are many people who get by in the world without a sense of how to cook well, but its the lack of self awareness regarding one's inability to cook that makes people who put ketchup on pasta exceptional.
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>>4644431
now that DMC is mentioned, when the fuck are we getting Enhance
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>>4644489
If Enhance shows up, I will have no choice but to apply picrelated to the OP image
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>>4644497
Do it, dante is fucking cool.
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>>4643282
>this is still up
based
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>>4644520
Why is Shuten the second tallest here?
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>>4644543
Her VA wasn't available
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>>4644520
>3DPD
Miss me with that gay shit
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>>4644547
You gay
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You'll wait for the perfect opportunity, and then when Nrvnqsr least expects it, you can have Sakura use her ribbons! Against somebody who is basically a living form of magecraft like Nrvnqsr, her ribbons ought to have incredible effect! "Sakura, hold on for now, don't do anything unless we need to defend ourselves." Of course, Nrvnqsr right now is under a little too much pressure to want to send anything after the two of you. Even if he gets the bright idea of trying to absorb you or Sakura for additional power, neither Arcueid or Saber are going to let up on their attack.

"It seems we're at something of a stalemate." The Dead Apostle states calmly. "I am unable to defeat you, and you are unable to defeat me... but do you really think that you'll be able to hold out against my attacks until the sun rises? Your magical energy is flagging already, Servant. I can see it clearly." Saber grimaces, while Shirou is a more competent magus than he might otherwise have been, he's still not got a tremendous amount of energy to work with, and extended combat against an enemy like Nrvnqsr will quickly drain it. Shirou himself looks worried, the fact that he's not traced any Noble Phantasms that prevent healing against Nrvnqsr shows that he doesn't believe a curse to be effective against somebody like Nrvnqsr. The guy is basically a rogue glob of Tiamat's Sea of Life now. That's what he ended up turning himself into through his magical research, and he doesn't even understand what that means.

You observe the fight for some more time, as both Saber and Arcueid avoid allowing even the remnants of the destroyed beasts to touch them in order to prevent Nrvnqsr from utilizing the Soil of Genesis, though Arcueid at fifty percent of her strength would likely be able to escape the ability, Saber wouldn't be so lucky. Eventually, after even his most powerful beasts prove inadequate, with both Saber and Arcueid effortlessly dispatching the lesser dragons and other phantasmal beasts he reveals from his body, he stops. "I can see that I won't be able to defeat you with my beasts alone, and though I had no wish to do this, it seems that if I wish to succeed in my wish to absorb the White Princess, I must use my full strength." The chaotic matter making up his destroyed beasts begin to flow towards him, and as it does, you nudge Sakura with an elbow before taking a step forward and yelling.

"Hey, Fabro!" You call out to the Dead Apostle Ancestor, using his true name to do so. The attention of the Dead Apostle Ancestor snaps to you just as he finishes collecting the last of his beasts. "You're a second rate magus, a third rate Dead Apostle, and you'll never be able to understand the truth of your body!" You taunt the Dead Apostle in order to gain his attention.
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"Boy, I haven't the faintest idea who you are, but I assure you-" The Dead Apostle Ancestor seems to be irritated with your choice to use his full name, and that's about the reaction you wanted, as you cut him off.

"Yeah... I don't care about you either. Sakura, now!" At your command, Sakura summons forth four tendrils of shadow that wrap around each of Nrvnqsr limb's in order to bind him.

The Dead Apostle Ancestor doesn't actually seem too impressed by her usage of magecraft, up until he tries to break the ribbons and finds himself completely unable to do so. "What... nonsense is this?!" He struggles against his bindings, and his body bulges and warps without anything actually happening, almost as if something was preventing his powers from working.

"Nullification." You state with a smile. "I wanted to wait until you were all together before I played this card against you... what's the matter? Can't summon any of your beasts? Can't break the binds?" Saber and Arcueid seem to relax a little as you approach the Dead Apostle Ancestor. "Well, I guess that you just had awful compatibility against my sister here. See, you're effectively a living Reality Marble, permanently cast upon your own body as to not trigger the corrective impulses of Gaia, right?" Nrvnqsr seems more bothered trying to escape the ribbons that are seemingly expanding and growing around his entire body, slowly turning him into a bizarre looking mummy. "So, here's the thing I was wondering... What happens if something like a Reality Marble came into contact with something that could nullify any magical ability?" Before Nrvnqsr can answer, a ribbon wraps around his mouth, and you smirk at his hate filled eyes. "It becomes completely worthless! Thanks for being a test subject, Number 10, but I think it's about time we... wrapped things up, don't you?" You joke at the defeated Dead Apostle Ancestor as the ribbons finishing wrapping him, barely able to prevent yourself from cackling with mad glee as he begins to sink into the floor, being taken into Sakura's inner world to be nullified, converted into magical energy, and destroyed utterly.

Sakura walks over to you, apparently suffering no ill effects from the ingestion of the Dead Apostle Ancestor. "Onii-chan, I wish that you'd learn to be a little more gracious in victory." She gives you a weak smile as she equally weakly admonishes you for your taunting of the doomed Dead Apostle. You can tell that she doesn't really care though.

"It doesn't really matter, does it?" You sigh as you look up. "Is it done yet?" You look at Sakura, waiting for her confirmation on the destruction of the Tenth Dead Apostle Ancestor, and she nods. "I... I think that everything relating to the individual that was Nrvnqsr is gone... and so are the beasts... but for some reason, I can't seem to nullify and destroy the mud-like substance, like there's... there's something trying to keep it there?"
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Something trying to keep it there? "What are you talking about, Sakura? If Nrvnqsr is gone, then surely you should be able to destroy the remnants of his body, right?" Something might still go wrong, could you have been wrong about the nature of the chaos? Could Sakura be at risk of being possessed? No... if he dares try to do that, you'll erase Nrvnqsr and his chaos much like you erased Roa, you'll find a way.

"No... it's not Nrvnqsr... It's... something else... Something is trying to... manifest through what's left of him!" Sakura's eyes widen as her legs fail her. You catch her in your arms and look at your sister as she struggles to contain whatever is currently inside of her, though to be able to give her this much difficulty even after you strengthened her world with the concept of Nullification... what manner of creature could this be?! Your questions are answered as Sakura looks up at you, and for a moment, her deep purple eyes flash a different color entirely, a vibrant shade of pink, though the most notable feature of the eyes are the white crosses that appear in both of them... N-no way! Seconds later, the girl falls unconscious in your arms.

Arcueid, Saber and Shirou come running up to you as you hold your sister in your arms. She's not dead, that much you know, and she's... still herself. She hasn't been possessed, you at least know that much. Even Arcueid seems to be baffled by this set of circumstances. "Shinji? What happened to your sister?" You sigh before responding.

>"I think that something might've tried to invade her body from the greater World of Imaginary Numbers."
>"I have no idea, I think she just needs rest."
>"I think she might've somehow made contact with the mother of all life on the planet... Tiamat."
>"I have no idea, do you see anything wrong with her, Arcueid?"
>Write-in...
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That's why it's a bad idea to take a guy who is in essence a lump of the sea of life that she has complete control over into the same dimension Tiamat is trapped within!
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>>4644590
>>Write-in...
Panic. Just immediately panic and start yelling about Primordial Dragon THOTs.
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>>4644590
Y'all fucked up

"I think she might've somehow made contact with the mother of all life on the planet... Tiamat
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>>4644587
>I can't seem to nullify and destroy the mud-like substance, like there's... there's something trying to keep it there?
Its finally happening

>>4644593
I FUCKING KNEW IT WAS A BAD IDEA TO LET SAKURA EAT VAMPIRES, FUCKING KNEW IT
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>>4644590
lets add tiamat to our harem
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>>4644598
It was really only this one specific vampire that could've had this effect.
Kind of disappointed you didn't go alone, as that would've ended up with Shiki, Shirou, Shinji and SHIKI fighting together. Oh well. I enjoy this outcome too.
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>>4644590
>"I think she might've somehow made contact with the mother of all life on the planet... Tiamat."
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>>4644619
WHY DO WE ALWAYS FUCKING MISS THE BASED TAG TEAMS WTF. First Kouma and SHIKI, now this?
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>>4644619
wait what happens if Nrvnqsr eats SHIKI
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>>4644590
>"I think she might've somehow made contact with the mother of all life on the planet... Tiamat."
You know what? This shit ain't surprising me anymore
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>>4644624
>WHY DO WE ALWAYS FUCKING MISS THE BASED TAG TEAMS WTF.
Because after getting waifu'd by Tamamo and kidnapped by Moedred people are taking the harem everywhere for protection.
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>>4644590
Oh fuck. What is she going to want, and will it be good idea to give it to her?

>"I think she might've somehow made contact with the mother of all life on the planet... Tiamat."
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>>4644629
SHIKI would be completely impossible to break down or absorb, Nrvnqsr's body would reject him.
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>>4644619
I hope we can have another opportunity to have that line up it sounds like its based as fuck.
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>>4644590
>I think she might've somehow made contact with the mother of all life on the planet... Tiamat.
MOMMY
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>>4644632
Honestly, if she does end up trying to re-enter reality, we should cut her a deal. Something along the lines of Truth-amping her Divinity so that she would lose the need for a mortal body/vessel? So she wouldn't need to bother any life on Earth because she herself would become separate from the ecosystem.
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Calling in 30 minutes.

Did you like it?
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>>4644642
she's gonna kill us all so maybe not

>>4644648
No because you let everyone know that we could've had an even more based option
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>>4644590
>>"I think she might've somehow made contact with the mother of all life on the planet... Tiamat."
>>4644648
Pretty neat
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>>4644650
>No because you let everyone know that we could've had an even more based option
It's not like that can't occur at some point in the future though, meanwhile this was a unique opportunity that could not have been replicated.
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I'm almost sure we could damage tiamat if we ever need to, we aren't her "children" and truth is truth.
>>4644590
>"I think she might've somehow made contact with the mother of all life on the planet... Tiamat."
>call touko and ask for help
>ask arcueid if she can do anything
>explain to your allies
WAIT, WOULD AVALON DO ANYTHING?
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>>4644670
>WAIT, WOULD AVALON DO ANYTHING?
It would turn Merlin into the Janitor of Avalon as he cleaned up the Sea of Life spill.
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>>4644654
I'm just impatient and want a based tag team with our bros against a vampire. Also I thought you didn't like FGO
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>>4644679
I like certain aspects of FGO.
I just hate the main character.
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>>4644675
hmmmmmm
>>4644683
I don't hate ritsuka its just that he is bland as shit, thats why people like the joke version of him from the manga more, at least she has personality.
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>>4644683
Can we use truth to server tiamat's connection to sakura?
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>>4644683
Can we use truth to manifest a top hat on tiamat?
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>>4644683
Can we use truth to make kirei appear in tiamat's tum tum?
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>>4644687
That would require you to actually enter Sakura's nullification zone in order to confront Tiamat alone... Not reccomended.

>>4644690
Same as above, but more fashionable.
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>>4644590
>>4644593
So Sakura went from Yandere to Yandere EX?
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>>4644697
would rule breaker do anything
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>>4644683
Can we pacify Tiamat by applying headpats?
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tiamat is very cute
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>>4644700
nullification zone so probably not
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>>4644700
No. Rule Breaker severs magical contracts and the like, the connection between Tiamat and Sakura now isn't like that at all.
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>>4644709
would 2 rule breakers work
jk
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>>4644709
I'm sure you'll keep this hidden until we find this out on our own, but what IS their connection like.
For now at least. Sakura seems to be in control, and her aspect of nullification should work to keep Tiamat from doing any fuck shit on her own.
So is Sakura just gonna have to deal with Mega Mommy whispering fuck shit in her inner ear for now on until Sakura lets her out or otherwise do something?
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>>4644717
I plead the fifth.
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>>4644720
How would Tiamat respond if we use Isekai Bro's memories of Tiamat r34 and downloaded it directly to Sakura's INS?
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Push comes to shove, we'll pull all stops and sever Sakura's connection to her own element. We know enough people to make it work, and her safebeing is more important than her usefulness to us.
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>>4644722
agreed, must protecc imouto
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>>4644648
I wish you could tip us that we shouldn't have Sakura do this.
It would be fair to fuck us like this if we would have conciously choose this for shits and giggles. But considering that it's pretty obvious that none of us knew that would happen it feels like you are a high schooler who who walks up to kids on their first day of school demands that they solve a quadratic equation and punches them in the face when they ask him what an equation is.
Feels a little unfair.
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>>4644722
i don't think severing someone connection to their element is a good idea
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>>4644727
It's not actually as bad as it looks.
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>>4644730
Having a direct link to a beast is also not a good idea.
Better sane Sakura without her element than Sakura posessed by Tiamat.
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>>4644727
Are you complaining that there are unforseen consequences to choices we make in the thread? Shit's boring if we know the result of every choice before we make it.
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>>4644734
I guess it depends of what part of tiamat we are talking about, femme fatale likes humanity its the rest of her that has the desire to also destroy humanity.
It's weird.
>>4644732
is this connection like how a foreigner servant is formed in FGO?
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>>4644735
Is that really what you've got from my post?
Scenario 1
Player: I choose to go for a walk.
QM: As you go for a walk you see a weird red rock.
P: I choose to kick it as hard as I can.
QM: Rock explodes. You die.

Scenario 2
Player: I choose to go for a walk.
QM: As you go for a walk you step on a weird red rock and it explodes. You die.
P: What? What the hell is that rock? Why did I step on it?
QM: That rock was lying there for decades waiting for you to step on it.
You would have known about it if you have read a supplementary material for the setting.

>>4644732
I wish I knew how bad it is, so I could choose an appropriate response.
But I don't.
Guess I get another punch to the face.
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>>4644590
>Might have made contact with OG milkies

WhatIs is just building BB without aid of the mooncell. Sakura with the base of Potnia Theron.

Now she has to eat Nyarly for the alt costume options
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Status Updated!

I was gonna wait until the next update for this but whatever.
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>>4644771
Sakura can't catch a break, now she's a vessel for 2 Beasts
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However, as a result of containing the entire body of Tiamat inside herself, Sakura's physical strength and abilities have been increased to that of a weak Servant.
Oh God Oh Fuck
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>>4644762
I get that all you say is hyperbole and bullshit. There hasn't been a mistake we couldn't recover from so far. Go jack off, take a pill, have a shower or whatever just calm your tits.
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>>4644762
>You would have known about it if you have read a supplementary material for the setting.
Sounds like you should have read the supplementary material then.

Also, notice how you're the only one that thinks it's unfair you didn't know the results of the action beforehand.
Hell, the fact that we didn't immediately dojo is a good hint too.
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>>4644771
Wow! It's even better than I would have hoped!
Damn, we're really turning poor Sakura into a mega death weapon, aren't we!
Good for her, hope it isn't too much of a burden on her. We might need to take responsibility bros...
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>>4644787
I'm pretty sure she still has the potential to turn into Dark Sakura so this blessing could very easily screw us over so badly
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>>4644791
I'm pretty sure Tiamat would eat Angry Manjew.
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>>4644771
Does this mean that if Sakura "eat" someone now they'll have to deal with both her Nullification and Tiamat's mud at the same time?
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>>4644791
>this blessing could very easily screw us over so badly
Well, that's a given!
The more powerful we make each of our allies, especially the female ones, the more of a threat they are to us if they ever cold flip.
And don't you dare get it twisted...
With the way that this shit is going...
It's only a matter of time.
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>>4644786
>Sounds like you should have read the supplementary material then.
Right?
I can't believe that there are people in the FATE thread who don't know about Nrvnqsr Chaos.
He was one of the best characters of Fate/Stay Night.
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>>4644771
Sorry whatis, I have to break the veil for a minute.

>>4644815
Turns out that there's this place, a site called the "type-moon wiki" that reveals the mysteries of the quest. Read it and you too can know about all this additional shit WhatIs keeps adding.
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>>4644824
>break the veil
Oh shit dude! Are you some kind of ghost?
Please don't curse me lol.
>Read it and you too can know about all this additional shit WhatIs keeps adding.
Exactly. Everyone including you knew this was going to happen. That's why everyone voted for Sakura to be posessed by a beast.
Totally.
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>>4644833
>Exactly. Everyone including you knew this was going to happen. That's why everyone voted for Sakura to be posessed by a beast.
>Totally.
I never said we knew it was going to happen. But I know about Tiamat and Nero Chaos and I can see the connect in hindsight.
Also, notice how you're still the only one complaining?
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>>4644843
>Recommending the TM wiki
You understand the complete lack of accuracy that place has, dont you?
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>>4644844
Hey, some idea of what's going on is better then crying about how this is unforeseen and unfair because you've never played anything other then FSN.
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>>4644771
>>4644780
I have very mixed feelings about it.

On one hand, it's good that Sakura is stronk. It means more shovels per second.
On the other hand I'm worried for her to be exposed to all this stuff. What it will do to her personality.


In either case she's owed ice cream.
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>>4644888
Oh shit dude, thanks for reminding me.
Now that we've confirmed the existence of two beasts, when we get time can we go find Olga Marie and see if Kiara exists?
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>>4644795
yeah, remember that tiamat's mud is so fucking OP that even gilgamesh couldnt no-sell it.

Also, why is this a blue board
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>>4644891
olga isnt a beast, kinda, we don't know yet to be honest.
Kiara may exist but she is just a normal lewd nun on normal timelines i guess.

I'm just waiting for the QM to throw a curveball and have moneybills summon Solomon.
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"I... I think that Sakura has come into contact with the mother of all life on the planet... No, that's not accurate... I think... I think Sakura might have become the host body of that Goddess..." As insane as it sounds, it's the only outcome that makes any sort of sense. Tiamat has managed to manifest into Sakura's body. Somehow, you've turned your sister into Beast II.

"That... Goddess?" Arcueid looks at Sakura's body and her eyes narrow. It looks like she's definitely noticed the anomalies with Sakura's body now, almost like that of a Servant though... no, a Demi-Servant?" Sakura as she is now has achieved a level beyond the limits of a human being, being powered by the Divine Spirit Tiamat, even if a cursory examination of Sakura as she is now tells you that most of the strength of the Beast is restricted. That's... probably for the best. As she is now, Sakura wielding Tiamat's full power would rapidly destroy the world entirely by accident.

"Tiamat. Primordial Goddess of Life. Beast II." You look up at the sky before you talk. "Well, the good news is that the Counter Force hasn't seen fit to bathe us in purging flames, so we must be doing something right. I guess that Alaya must not think this situation is dire enough for it to respond to it personally. So that's something." That alone tells you that Sakura ought to have control of the situation, at least for now, and even if she's unable to actually wield the power of Tiamat for herself. It might just be possible for her to learn how to wield the strength of the Beast for herself... Tiamat herself will likely much prefer the idea of being sealed within your sister instead of being sealed deep within the void of Imaginary Number Space. At least now, she'll get to observe humanity for herself without passively destroying them just as a result of her existence being a threat to them.

"That... sounds like it might be a problem..." Saber looks at Sakura's sleeping body as you support it, you've hooked one of her arms around your shoulder and have an arm on her side in order to keep her in place. Saber is wearing a tremendously complicated expression as she hears the word 'Alaya'... Technically, Saber is still working under a deal from Alaya.

Arcueid however doesn't seem to be so bothered by the potential danger that Tiamat represents... Why should she? Unlike everything else on the planet, as a True Ancestor, she wasn't actually created by Tiamat, her species was a creation of Crimson Moon Brunestud. "I'm sure it'll all work out alright, Saber." She really doesn't seem to be bothered by the primordial goddess girl.
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"Shouldn't we at least try to wake her up before we talk about Sakura like she's not herself?" Shirou asks an innocent question, but it's a good one. If Sakura really has got Tiamat entirely sealed like your examination suggests, then it wouldn't be bad if you just tried to wake her up, would it?

>Wake Sakura up now.
>Reunite with the rest of your allies first.
>Write-in...
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>>4644900
>olga isnt a beast, kinda, we don't know yet to be honest.
>Kiara may exist but she is just a normal lewd nun on normal timelines i guess.
Maybe, but I still want to be absolutely sure now that we have two fucking beasts running around. Better safe then accidentally caused the others to come into existence or some shit.
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>>4644908
>>Wake Sakura up now.
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>>4644908
>Reunite with the rest of your allies first.
Let the poor girl rest.
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>>4644908
>Wake Sakura up now.
We should probably check on our imouto see if she's feeling fine.
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>>4644908
sigh, we are just creating another kingprotea arent we?
>Wake Sakura up now.
We need to at least know how she is feeling.
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>>4644900
Fair chance it happens, A Grand Servant is summoned in response to Beasts, but Tiamat is currently sealed, I could only assume that Primate Murder is limited in some capacity that stops him from being considered a Beast

>>4644891
Olga and Kiara are like, babies at this point, Olga only became a Beast through some alien fuckery and Kiara only becomes a Beast through Moon Cell hackery

>>4644892
Tiamat's mud is similar to grail mud so the syringe is kinda scary, there's also the fact that Gilgamesh fucking hates Tiamat, if he notices she's inside Sakura, he would likely kill her
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>>4644939
Gilgamesh don't really hate tiamat personally, he even sounds respectful on his speech before using EA on her, at least on the game.
Also, olga is 11 during case files so she may be 12 right now?
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>>4644943
then i guess Kiara is the baby, 4 years old max, we could probably bribe Moneybills with a mentorship for Olga and rescue Kiara after this is all over
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>>4644947
Sure, olga is actually quite a good person for a mage.
Loli kiara is adorable.
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30 minutes till I call.
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doing some research right now, apparently Fate Strange Fake takes place in 4 years, I thought it was going to be set in 2018 for some reason
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>>4644908
>Wake Sakura up now.
Hopefully Sakura is feeling alright.
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>>4644908
>Wake her up, gently. Call her name.
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>>4644954
Wait I have one question, do Noble Phantasms used by Shirou work on Dead Apostles?
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>>4644972
Depends on the Dead Apostle.
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>>4644955
The most interesting thing about stange fake is waver talking about how in less than a decade magicraft will be revealed to the world because its becoming impossible to supress all information about it.
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>>4644983
well yeah, cameras are everywhere now, its basically impossible to just hypnotize it away, magic is gonna die
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>>4644983
>>4644985
One of the reasons I want to pick up Spiritron Hacking. As far as I know, Spiritron Hacking doesn't lose it's mystery as shit is revealed to the world and as magic dies.
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>>4644985
Or the mages can use their power to blast modern humanity back to the medieval era to stave off the issue for a few hundred years. They have both esoteric powers and fucktons of money.
[But for that to happen they'd have to stop being technologically illiterate boomers and listen to Waver, and we all know that's not happening anytime soon]
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>>4644985
Magecraft is going to have to change on a fundamental level if it's going to survive.
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You should wake her up. You need to know if Sakura has been affected mentally by becoming the living seal of Tiamat. You have no idea what actually might end up happening if Sakura were to die now. Of course, it's a morbid thought, but you can't prevent yourself from having it. Would Tiamat be able to possess her body entirely and set about destroying the entire world? It's a terrifying thought, and one that you were never going to allow to come to pass anyway. Of course, you're probably going to have to explain what happened to Rin, but whatever. You'll jump that hurdle when you get to it... Thought what if Sakura were to just... grow old and die of natural causes? Would that have the same effect? Or does her new duty as the keeper of a Beast grant her an unaging body? So many questions, and no way to actually get any answers for them, at least not until the girl awakens.

You find a nearby park bench to sit Sakura down on, and begin to go about attempting to wake the girl up. First by gently trying to shake her awake, and then by whispering in her ear. Neither of the gentle approaches you try work, and just before you can do something a little more drastic, there's an extremely loud clapping noise as Arcueid claps her hands directly in front of Sakura's face, it nearly causes you to jump out of your skin, but it seems to do the trick. "Huh, I was hoping that would work." She looks down at the girl with her arms crossed. "Hey there, how are you feeling?" Arcueid's voice seems to have some concern in it, and Sakura blinks for a moment. Physically, there are absolutely no changes to the girl. That's probably for the best, Sakura might just implode from embarrassment if she suddenly found herself wearing Tiamat's outfit in a public place.

"I'm... feeling a lot better now. I... think I almost lost control, but... she's sleeping now, it looks like even the new power you gave me can't deal with her properly, Onii-chan." Your sister looks up at you with something of a frown. "I could hear her voice... She sounded so sad." Sakura says, the immense sadness felt by the Goddess Tiamat at her abandonment by her children clearly even affecting her a little, despite Sakura's personal ability to deal with her emotions being tremendous.

"Wait a minute... did you... talk to her?" She actually spoke to Tiamat? Whatever could they have talked about? You really don't know if it's a good idea for the girl to be listening to whatever it is that Tiamat might've tried to communicate to her. The goddess Tiamat is an entity that by her very existence is an enemy and a Threat to Mankind, only bad things could come from communicating with her, surely?
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"Only briefly... I felt as if for a moment we were capable of... understanding each other's thoughts, so I don't really think I could call it a conversation, but she's not struggling to escape anymore." Sakura sighs. "I think that she... just wants to observe the world through me now... From the point of view of a human... I think." That's... surprisingly benign for Tiamat. Sakura then proceeds to get up and stretches her body for a moment. "It's funny... I feel a lot stronger than before. Like I could run a marathon without even becoming tired!" Yeah... that would be the result of her becoming something like a Demi-Servant.

"Ah... yes, that's another effect of the presence of Tiamat within your body. As a result of containing such a powerful being, it seems that your body has been granted additional strength." You consider telling her for a moment that she now officially classes as a Beast Class Servant, but that might be a little too much for her to handle, especially if you explain just what a Beast is to her. "Just think of yourself like a type of Servant for now, though one with a human host in charge of all the power instead of a spiritual body." You decide to give Sakura the simple explanation.

"A... type of Servant?" She doesn't seem to be following along entirely with you here.

"That's right, though as you're obviously still alive and your magical energy production ability hasn't at all been hampered, you're more than capable of functioning independently of a Master, and of course, your contract to Rider hasn't been affected either." You then hug your sister, and she lets out squeak of surprise. "I'm so glad that you're alright, Sakura. That you're still... you. For a moment I thought that I had made a mistake I would never be able to forgive myself for." Of course, given what would've happened had Tiamat actually taken control of Sakura's body, you wouldn't actually have lived to regret the mistake. Even if Arcueid by herself was capable of stopping Beast II from destroying the entirety of humanity, you wouldn't survive being so close to a Beast awakening with its complete and full power, and neither would Shirou or Saber, unless Saber's Instinct gave her the good sense to activate Avalon before being obliterated by the energy that would likely also destroy the entirety of Misaki Town... You don't want to think about what might have happened anymore.

I see..." Sakura seems to be a little overwhelmed by this news, but see seems more to be focused on her own thoughts at this point. Probably for the best.

Arcueid remains ever cheerful as she speaks up. "So, what are we going to do now? Shall we head back or should we look for everyone else while we're out here?" You're glad that somebody decided to bring something else up though.

>"We'll look for my allies out here. They might be in trouble (Who do you want to look for first?)
>"We'll return to the mansion, they all should have done so themselves by now.
>Write-in...
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>>4645104
>>"We'll look for my allies out here. They might be in trouble (Rin)
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>>4645105
>>4645104
+1
It's about time we farm those bond point
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>>4645105
Support. Time to increase that bond.
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It was a pretty nice session QM.
Poor Shinji. He tried so hard to protect Sakura but it seems it was just her fate to be a container for foreign creatures sloshing around inside her lol.
Can't wait for Tiamat to be unsealed so Shinji has to kill his sister. Or maybe you intend for Sakura to lose her sanity somewhere down the line from Tiamat's influence? That could be fun too.
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>>4645104
I feel so much pity for tiamat, hope this gives her at least some chance of living with her children.
>>4645105
+1
Also explain to her what just happened.
Also ask arcueid if she would be able to defeat tiamat if she was released, i do doubt that honestly because humans.
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>>4645104
>>4645105
+1
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>>4645116
I'd imagine killing Sakura would basically be a Mind of Steel type ending, you don't die, but you break mentally
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>>4645121
With how this quest is going so far I wouldn't be surprised by an ending like that.
Ever since the beginning of the war Shinji has seen nothing but failure and humiliation.
After the battle against vampires is lost some of his allies will be killed and some of them will be turned into vampiric slaves.
I am sure QM has planned something big. Maybe Shinji will turn to Manaka or Alan for help.
There will be a big buldup once more only to end up in failure again. It will be hilarious.
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>>4645117
You really don't want a scenario where Arcueid ends up going all out fighting Tiamat.
Tiamat and all of the Life on Earth would be destroyed as a result
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>>4645104
Supporting >>4645105
>>4644648
Yes. This is awesome.
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Tiamat is basically impossible to kill in the current setting without killing off every living being that proves her existence. Unless she can be yeeted into some other outer entity dimension to cut her off from her children that prove her existence.
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>>4645125
And here I thought you were doing pretty well!
Guess some people's standards for "failure and humiliation" are just different from other people's, huh?
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>>4645128
Oh indeed. It would be interesting to see.
From mars.
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>>4645133
Well everyones standarts are different I suppose.
"Pretty well" lol.
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>>4645139
We are very well.
i expected a lot more bad endings.
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>>4645105
+1
>>4645133
Doomsayers gonna doomsay I guess.
I'd say we're doing pretty well when you compare the terrible fates suffered by people in canon compared to what we have achieved.
Even if things are more complicated than we anticipated, I can't say I regret making the choices we did.
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>>4645139
I mean, all things considered, you've managed to do very well recently.
Like sure, you've had a few missteps and blunders here and there, but I wouldn't at all say that it's been nothing but Humiliation and Failure.
Shinji sees far more success than he sees failure, and he's not used to failing as a result of that.
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Sakura changing with her diet like this is still pretty mild.
If she was always in danger like this imagine her eating TATARI.
At least now she has friendly Tiamat and her protection.
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>>4645139
What has happened is called failing forwards anon, it's an integral part of this thing called life, I don't expect you to know about it.
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>>4645144
>i now imagined sakura with kirby-tier copy ability
>oh jesus christ
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>>4645140
>>4645142
I was talking about overall situation rather than bad endings.
We'll see if your opinion changes after assault on vampire base ends in defeat.
>>4645144
>imagine her eating TATARI.
Nothing would have happened lol.
Nrvnqsr was the only vampire who could have such an effect on Sakura and out of all vampires she ate him first lol.
>>4645146
That's true. I have never been alive after all.
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>>4645153
ok
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>>4645153
>That's true. I have never been alive after all.
Roa's non-existent ghost haunts this thread.
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>>4645133
In fairness, in fact Shinji had a lot of moments Of awesome, from managing to save Sakura from Zouken, getting the people he’s fighting for under his banner, and working together, to more recently smoothly dealing with Roa and now the consonant person. At the same time the missteps he (we’re) making do hurt because the stakes are high, so any mistake or enemy action is All the more harrowing by striking near to heart, be it losing half of our friends to a force we have yet no idea how to oppose, exposure of Sakura to this kind of entities, or satsuki’s turning.

I can see why someone would perceive those failures much more acutely than successes, especially when the successes are the baseline we’re aiming for.

I’m looking forward to seeing the story as it unfolds.
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>>4645104
>>>"We'll look for my allies out here. They might be in trouble (Rin)
Illya has Avenger and Sacchin her new powers at least but Rin is likely alone.
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Oh, I forgot to add a skill on Sakura's sheet.
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>>4645478
>Luck: EX
Reminds me of that shitstorm on Awakening Mirror where anons thought Tsubaki's parameters were too op before she went on to lose every fight she participated in.
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"We'll look around town for everyone first. Though I think we ought to look for Rin first of all, seeing as she's probably alone and this city is... horribly dangerous at night." Illya ought to at least have her maids and Avenger with her, and should hopefully at least be able to fend off an attack from one of the other Dead Apostle Ancestors that might still be in the town. With any luck, Mordred will refuse to cooperate with an attack out of spite for her Master. She already let a prisoner escape when she obviously wasn't meant to. Avenger already managed to get wounded by her Master, but with any luck, should he attempt to attack again, Avenger won't be caught so off guard. It occurs to you that you actually still need to ask Saber or Avenger about just how the fight went down so you can plan to defeat Rizo. Of course, Touko is creating a plan of her own to defeat her, but you really wonder just what sort of time manipulating ability the vampire might have access to. He was able to freeze Touko in place, after all, but that alone shouldn't have enabled him to take on two Servants at the same time and win. Especially not Servants as powerful as Saber and Avenger, maybe against some lower quality Servants, but those two are supposedly some of the strongest around.

"Yes, if any of our allies were to be targeted, Rin would be our most vulnerable link. Of course, there wouldn't be much to gain from targeting her right now other than the potential elimination of one of the Masters." Saber muses. "Regardless of all that, we should hurry and find her, but where exactly might we be able to find her...?"

"Oh that's simple. Knowing Rin she's probably looking for the cheapest jewel sellers in town." You shrug. The Tohsaka are a ridiculously stupid family for deciding to use jewels as the focus of their magecraft, especially of a magecraft that destroys the focus. You understand the general concept behind how jewels can be used to amplify magical power, but you also understand that there are simply so many other ways to do that. So who in their right mind would pick the magecraft that is practically designed to slowly bankrupt you? Well, not like you could call the Tohsaka a family in their right mind. They were one of the three that agreed to create the ridiculous ritual that is the Holy Grail War.
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You don't really hurry around Misaki Town as you look for Rin. You need to take a certain level of care as you look through the shops in order to make sure that you don't miss out on any obscure or well-hidden stores that Rin might find herself in, though after what feels like an hour fruitlessly searching for Rin, you can feel the tell-tale energy signature of a Servant in a store, a clothes store at that. They don't seem to be responding to the energy signature that they themselves must be able to feel, so you're uncertain just how to approach, who could it be? Mordred? Or one of the Servants that is in Misaki to hunt down the missing Masters and Servants? Doesn't anybody find it at all strange that there are over a dozen servants roaming around?

>Go after the Servant with everyone.
>Only take some of your allies to go after the Servant. (Which ones)
>Just ignore it, you're looking for Rin right now.
>Have Saber go on ahead and observe the Clothes Store, try to trick the enemy Servant into thinking you retreated.
>Write-in...
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>>4645495
>>Have Saber go on ahead and observe the Clothes Store, try to trick the enemy Servant into thinking you retreated.
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>>4645495
>Only take some of your allies to go after the Servant. (Arc)
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>>4645495
>>Only take some of your allies to go after the Servant. (Which ones)
Saber, Shirou. If we go with a small group, we might be able to catch them off guard. I don't know if they can sense Arc, but she might cause them to run and I don't want to throw Sakura into a fight right now.
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>>4645495
>>Only take some of your allies to go after the Servant. (Which ones)
Arcueid.
Everyone else should go find Rin.
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>>4645478
WhatIs, it might a spoiler but given that we know Touko can seal and unseal skills and Tiamat had self-modification it is sate to assume that Sakura has it and since we already seen weird eyes during possession the more power will be unsealed the more Tiamatish Sakura will become in appereance?
>>4645487
I assume EX here represents Shinji.
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>>4645506
>I assume EX here represents Shinji.
What do you mean? It's Sakura's skill isn't it?
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>>4645495
>Only take some of your allies to go after the Servant. (Arc)
The others need to find rin ASAP she's too defenseless right now.
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>>4645506
>the more power will be unsealed the more Tiamatish Sakura will become in appereance?
In before Sakura gets Tiamat's boobs, since they're her most constant and defining feature in every form.
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>>4645508
He means that a big brother that will step in to save you is a very lucky thing to have.
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>>4645495
>Only take some of your allies to go after the Servant.
>Arcueid, Sakura
>>4645508
She is very lucky to have such a reliable dashing brother.
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>>4645495
>>Only take some of your allies to go after the Servant. (Shirou, Sakura)
Shirou has rule breaker, Sakura is strong and can't be sensed. That should take them by surprise
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Thirty minutes till calling.
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>>4645537
+1
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>>4645537
Or we could just take Arcueid. I bet it will be an even bigger surprise.
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>>4645495
>>Only take some of your allies to go after the Servant. (Arcueid)
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>>4645495
Switching >>4645500
to >>4645537

>>4645542
If we stay attached at the hip to Arc, we miss out on cool stuff like the Shinji, Shirou, Shiki, SHIKI team up fight though.
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>>4645542
We need to take shirou for rule breaker if its mordred.
>>4645495
>Only take some of your allies to go after the Servant. (Which ones)
>sakura shirou
>ask shirou to have rule breaker ready
>ask arc to be ready for backup
We really need mobile comunication to everyone.
Or see if Medea can make some mental communication link with eveyone.
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>>4645545
Ah yes. All the cool stuff of being kidnapped, having our allies taken as hostages and having our sister possessed by a beast.
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>>4645553
>having our sister possessed by a beast.
If we did the Shinji, Shirou, Shiki, SHIKI fight that wouldn't have happened. Or did you forget that only happened because we brought Sakura and Arc?
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>>4645550
>We really need mobile comunication to everyone.
We've been trying, unfortunately Rin sees cell phones on the same tier as Ruby.
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>>4645567
I agree. Bringing Sakura was a mistake. We should have brought only Arc.
>>4645495
Take Arcueid.
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>>4645574
Are you actually samefagging just for this shit?
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>>4645499
>>4645503
>>4645544
>>4645574
Three under 3 post IDs who's first post is all voting for the same thing.
That's not suspicious at all.
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>>4645577
>>4645578
Sure thing. I am totally a samefag.
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>>4645568
We should ask EMIYA to teach her how to use one.
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>>4645578
Easy way to solve this.
I'm gonna give each voter thirty minutes to confirm their vote.
With the same ID they voted with.
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>>4645582
Not every voter mind you.
Just uh.
The one post IDs
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>>4645582
Confirm mine I guess.
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>>4645583
Nice catch, thought we were going to have a ForgottenQM Moment(tm) for a second there.
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Its the second time samefagging comes up in the last two threads.
Can't wait for the samefag witch hunts like last time.
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>>4645596
Indeed
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>>4645582
Can I confirm my vote if I have a different id now?
I am on a phone and my id changed.
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>>4645600
explicitly no
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>>4645604
Alright.
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So how long will it take us to charm Tiamat herself directly? Anybody want to take a guess?
And if we were to went into Sakura's inner world again would that just be audience with Tiamat now?
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>>4645608
we would melt
we need specific special shit to survive on the sea of imaginary bullshit
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>>4645600
Your kind is not allowed here sorry.
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>>4645608
It might take awhile since WhatIs confirmed that going into the INS to truth a top hat onto Tiamat would be fashionable, but extremely dangerous.
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>>4645613
Thanks. Guess I just have to make a few posts and hope that my id doesn't change before the next vote begins.
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>>4645626
If you are a genuine voter, I do apologize.
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>>4645628
It's fine. It's just a quest.
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checking to see if im gonna be called a samefag
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>>4645626
Man, I don't want to push out Genuine Voters, but fuck if we don't have people still trying to samefag shit.
Just look at the string of 1 IDs at the bottom of this thread.
>>4633940

>>4645628
I think I counted right, ignoring the dudes who never responded to you asking to confirm.

-Send saber ahead
>>4645497

-Take Arc
>>4645509
>>4645574

-Take Arc, Sakura
>>4645524

-Take Shirou, Sakura
>>4645500
>>4645537
>>4645545
>>4645539
>>4645550
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>>4645637
the answer is yes
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>>4645640
I did fuck up. Sorry, ignore 4645500
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>>4645637
Sucks to be you.
Buy a PC poorfag.
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>>4645640
4645550 is saying to take Sakura, Shirou and Arcueid. Why are you counting it with your votes?
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>>4645648
it doesn't say to take arcueid
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>>4645648
>>4645550 is saying Take Shirou and Sakura, tell Arc to wait and be ready if we call for backup.

If it's that important, >>4645628
WhatIs, would you count that as a
>Take Shirou and Sakura vote
or
>Take Shirou, Sakura and Arc vote?
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>>4645653
Confirmed illiterate.
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>>4645654
It's a Shirou and Sakura vote while telling Arcueid to remain ready to back you up.
Not to have Arc follow you in
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>>4645658
this is indeed my vote.
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>>4645657
>>4645658
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>>4645658
That's still a different vote isn't it?
Taking Shirou and Sakura while sending Arc and Saber for Rin.
Taking Shirou and Sakura while having Arc wait on us and sending Saber alone for Rin.
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>>4645663
its the same with some more shit added, the QM can take it as a Shirou and sakura only vote if he wants.
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>>4645495
>Only take some of your allies to go after the Servant. (Arcuied)
Arcueid should easily be able to handle Mordred presuming it is Mo-san.
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>>4645682
Too late.
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Sorry for the slow day today everyone, been very busy.
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"Shirou, Sakura. Follow me, into the store. Saber, Arcueid, I want you to both stay here, you two have more easily noticeable presences. If you notice anything in the clothes store, be prepared to immediately help. Otherwise, act naturally, pretend to slowly walk away from the store." You don't want the Servant to get spooked and flee before you can actually do anything about them, especially if it actually is Mordred. This might just be your best opportunity to get Mordred on your side, Shirou as he is now should be able to Trace Rulebreaker and sever the contract of any Servant he can hit with it... so long as they don't have some sort of attack immunity like somebody like Heracles would have through God Hand.

"Alright. Let's go." Shirou seems to readily accept going without his Servant, though Saber isn't so happy about the idea. Letting her Master walk directly into danger must go against her oath, after all.

"But... Shirou, are you sure? Approaching an enemy Servant without your own Servant is a tremendously dangerous thing to do!" Saber reminds Shirou of something he already knows, and somehow it feels like she's also reminding you too.

"I'll be fine, Saber. With the new weapons I can create thanks to Shinji's... memories, I think I'll be able to at least fend off a Servant if they attack. Besides, it's not like I'll be alone, I'm going with Shinji and Sakura, right?" You're happy that Shirou feels confident, and he's right, together, the three of you should be able to defeat most any Servant that shows up. Especially now that Sakura's body has been upgraded thanks to her becoming the host of Beast II. You don't think that process is something that is going to be reversible, not as you are right now. You don't think you have what it takes to take on Tiamat, an enemy capable of easily defeating even Gilgamesh when she's at her strongest and requiring a coalition of many different Servants of the highest level of strength in order to defeat her in the end, and even then they only managed to beat her because she was holding herself back from annihilating them all. With any luck you won't even need to reverse the process, and Tiamat will never decide to become an issue. So long as she's content within Sakura.

"Alright, Shirou..." Saber doesn't sound so convinced, but doesn't seem to want to push the issue with her Master. Looks like she at least trusts you and Sakura to be able to prevent him from doing anything stupid. Well, she did just see Sakura easily consume an opponent with her magecraft that even she was having difficulty with, so that confidence in her allies isn't exactly misplaced. Still, it's nice to know that Saber is confident enough in each of your abilities that she is even willing to allow the idea of the three of you confronting a Servant without a Servant to support you. If Betty wasn't so unreliable when it comes to dangerous situations, you don't really know if you'd ever really take the same approach.
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"Let's go, Sakura. You're not weakened or anything, right? You're not going to have difficulty using your magecraft now that you've become linked to..." You just want to confirm before you make any mistakes, but Sakura just gives you a reassuring smile.

"No, I'm... fine now. She's not struggling and trying to break free anymore, so I don't have to focus on keeping her within my world." She explains. "Though I don't know how she'll react if somebody is dragged into my world now... I can't imagine she'll take kindly to somebody else's presence." Sakura's reassuring smile loses some of its confidence as she thinks about the primordial goddess trapped within her. Hopefully she gets a little more used to Tiamat existing within her. Though it does seem that you've managed to find the limit to just how powerful the concept of nullification is, beings on the level of a Beast seem to be immune to it... or at the very least, immune to being completely destroyed by it.

You enter the clothes store, holding your breath. This could very easily turn into a fight, and if you aren't careful, somebody could die!

"What do you mean you don't think the color red suits me?" You hear the annoyed voice of none other than Mordred as she harshly questions somebody, probably some unfortunate receptionist. "I think this looks great!" There's a lot of confidence in the voice of the Saber class Servant, and you find yourself greatly relieved that it's her and not a more... hostile Servant.

"Y-yeah, I think you're right, Saber... You look great!" You hear another girl's voice respond to the temperamental Saber class Servant with trepidation. Wait a minute... Rin?!

"Yeah, way better than the stupid dresses you picked out for me before, right?" Mordred laughs out loud as Rin makes a noise of agreement, though the magus is clearly in great fear of her own life. Just... what the hell is going on in here?! Why is Mordred going clothes shopping with Rin of all people? You approach the Servant and the fearful girl slowly, and peeking through the clothes racks, you can see Mordred and Rin clearly. Though Rin is carrying a basket full of clothing, and her eyes are darting back and forth, looking for an escape route from the enemy Servant.

Mordred is wearing a short white tank top instead of a tube top like you might've imagined her going for, in addition to a pair of denim shorts. She's got a red jacket tied around her waist as some weird sort of fashion statement. She's also let her hair down and is wearing... a blue baseball cap? Is she aware that it's the middle of winter? You know that Servants don't really feel the cold, but still... an outfit like that is guaranteed to attract attention! And why is she with Rin?!
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>She hasn't seemed to have noticed the three of you yet, keep watching.
>Approach the two of them, but tell Shirou and Sakura to prepare to attack.
>Attack Mordred now, you can surprise her!
>Just go up to Mordred and ask her if she wants a new Master.
>Write-in...
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>>4645746
>>Just go up to Mordred and ask her if she wants a new Master.
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>>4645746
>>Just go up to Mordred and ask her if she wants a new Master.
>>Write-in...
Explicitly call her Moe-chan and tell her she looks good in that outfit.
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>>4645746
Oh darn, the image unattached.
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>>4645744
Just go up to Mordred and ask her if she wants a new Master
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>>4645746
>Just go up to Mordred and ask her if she wants a new Master
I sure hope that my id didn't change.
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>>4645753
What about grabbing a tripcode? That way even if it changes, you don't have to worry.
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>>4645744

>She hasn't seemed to have noticed the three of you yet, keep watching

I don't like this... much.
Where is Rizo? Is he nearby?
Is Rin being used as bait and hostage in one package?
I don't like idea of her getting cut up if we announce ourselves.
On the other hand, I'd rather not have misunderstanding where Shirou tries to shank her with the dagger and she guts him in self defense.

>Get Shirou to be ready to draw the rule breaker
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>>4645757
Eh its fine. I usually just lurk anyway. Just had nothing better to do today so I thought I would participate.
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>>4645746
>Just go up to Mordred and ask her if she wants a new Master.
I guess Mordred was left wandering the streets during the day, ran into Rin, saw that she is a Master and planning to bail from Rizo using her?
She might has orders to search for us but it worth the risk.
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>>4645746
>>She hasn't seemed to have noticed the three of you yet, keep watching.
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>>4645746
>Just go up to Mordred and ask her if she wants a new Master.
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>>4645771
Samefag
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>>4645746
>Just go up to Mordred and ask her if she wants a new Master.
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>>4645773
Yeah sure, whatever you say mate.
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>>4645784
Sorry man. I am not the one who makes rules.
In this thread when you post for the first time you will be called samefag. I also went through that.
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>>4645746
>>Just go up to Mordred and ask her if she wants a new Master.
>tell shirou to ready rule breaker
>test rin by her reactions to you
>ask what in the fuck happened
>also tell mordred that her father is here so she don't get angry at is for not telling her

>see if this fucking place has cellphones for everyone
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>>4645785
Anon stop trying to stir shit up.

30 minutes till I call.
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>>4645785
Samefag
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>>4645784
Don't mind him. He is just salty he was forced to confirm his post.
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>>4645785
You don't need to tell me that, I was there when samefagging happened for the first time.
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>>4645786
>test rin by her reactions to you
What do you want to test her for? HIV?
>>4645788
Takes one to know one.
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>>4645793
>HIV?
pretty sure we can cure that with truth, probably.
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>>4645744
>Mordred is wearing a short white tank top instead of a tube top like you might've imagined her going for, in addition to a pair of denim shorts. She's got a red jacket tied around her waist as some weird sort of fashion statement. She's also let her hair down and is wearing... a blue baseball cap? Is she aware that it's the middle of winter? You know that Servants don't really feel the cold, but still... an outfit like that is guaranteed to attract attention! And why is she with Rin?!
Nice.
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>>4645796
No but seriously what do you mean by "test her"?
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>>4645799
I think he means gauge her reactions to us whether she's a doppelganger or perhaps hypnotized.
Although I think we had sufficient readout of her mannerisms showing that she feels distressed. Whether it is because she knows Saber's master is around with a plan or because she genuinely hates shopping for clothes with powerful people she can't fully trust remains to be seen.
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>>4645796
>As an unfortunate drawback, almost all other forms of magecraft will also be nullified when used on Sakura, including spells beneficial to her.
Yeah, I don't know about that.
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>>4645805
>Saber's master is around
Oh definetely. Why do you think I voted to just approach them?
Maybe this time Sakura, Shirou or Rin will get taken hostage.
They could also get killed or turned into DA for some additional drama.
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>>4645805
>I think he means gauge her reactions to us whether she's a doppelganger or perhaps hypnotized.
Yeah, just to see if she is acting like herself.
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>>4645746
>Just go up to Mordred and ask her if she wants a new Master.

Somehow this is much easier than I thought it would end up being.
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>>4645813
Of course. Walking up to her worked perfectly the first time so why wouldn't it work now?
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>>4645807
we are talking about rin not sakura
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>>4645819
Well in fairness it did serve to turn Mordred against her master to the extent where she is actively acting against his wishes and most likely cost him one, maybe even two command spells.
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>>4645826
Well hell, this is what I get for speed reading I guess. Please disregard my post then.
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>>4645829
>cost him one, maybe even two command spells.
Leaving him with the exact number of command spells that he needs to force her to do something.
Like breaking Rin's neck for example.
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>>4645844
That's a fair point desu.
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>>4645844
thats why rule breaker exists
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>>4645844
I'm about 85% sure Mordred ditched Rizo and thus we aren't walking into a massive trap but you'll be completely vindicated if Rin becomes a human folding chair in the next update.
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>>4645873
Mo's new class container: Undertaker
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>>4645869
I am sure Shirou can stab a Saber class servant faster than she can punch Rin's head off her shoulders.
>>4645873
I can't wait.
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>>4645746
>>Just go up to Mordred and ask her if she wants a new Master.
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Again sorry for the delays.
Just a very busy day
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>>4645938
Its fine dude. Just keep doing your best :)
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>>4645938
its fine, take your time
also, you are going to have mordred choice rin as master arent you?
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>>4645938
Write faster quest slave. Mush! Mush!
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>>4645977
Don't know if that's a good idea, she isn't a mana battery like us, she couldn't keep UBW up for too long
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>>4645977
Hope not
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>>4645977
I'm hoping for it.
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>>4645989
Illya would be a better match actually, she would be able to handle it and Avenger isn't a mana hog like Berserker was, at least i think?
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>>4645992
>>4645977
Wouldn't Touko make a better master than Rin or Illya?
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>>4646014
No
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>>4646014
Oh shit now that's an idea.
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>>4646014
No we need a servant to defend rin since we're not probably going to pick archer as our 2nd choice to free from manaka.
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>>4646014
I didn't think of that, yeah use Touko lmao
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>>4646014
Touko wasn't a Master chosen by the Holy Grail. Of course, she's talented enough that she could easily forge her own Command Spells or set up a method for a Servant to exist independantly of the Holy Grail, but that would take her time
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>>4646023
Rin can't support two servants genius.
>>4646016
You don't want Rin you don't want Touko. Who do you want then?
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>>4646023
It's bold to assume we'll be getting any choices from Manakas at all considering we've received a toy that will likely put us into combat between her and Gilgamesh the moment we meet again.

Either that, or double cross the golden boi.

It would be better to work towards finding and liberating our allies without counting on Manakas' goodwill.
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>>4646029
Manaka
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>>4646028
How much time? If it isn't something unreasonable I would argue that it's worth it.
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>>4646031
That doesn't make sense, she only has eyes for king arthur.
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>>4646035
He didn't ask if it made sense.
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>>4646031
I totally support that. Shame that she is in a different town and we can't contact her.
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Also, this hasn't really come up, but as the Servants are in stasis, their magical energy requirement is effectively non-existent.

>>4646032
A few weeks? Maybe a month?
Touko is an excellent magus but you're talking a lot of preperation time here. This is the sort of stuff that would take even talented magi years of time to prepare.
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>>4646030
I forgot that gil's braclet auto activates yeah i agree we should probably avoid making more deals with the Manakas.
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>>4646043
Well that's way too long. I guess our only choice is Illya.
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>>4646030
>>4646047
Bracelet only works if someone is wearing it.
We could totally meet Manaka without it.
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>>4646035
Eh, Left Manaka didn't seemed to be more open to playing around and letting us get away with stuff, Right Manaka's attention was on Saber the whole time.

>>4646043
Didn't Doctor Heartless set up a fake grail and fake command seals pretty quickly.
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>>4646051
Yeah but it's doubtful he was making shit up as he went along. It's not the sort of thing you can improv.
Touko would need a plan, especially if she didn't want to go for a method as convuluted as Heartless'
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Just have sakura's ribbons nullify the bracelet. Easy peasy.
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>>4646062
Can't we just leave bracelet home when we go to see Manaka?
It's not like it's part of our body.
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>>4646062
>>4646067
We can, but odds are good this will count as double crossing Gil, considering how easily he walked in on us.
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>>4644216
They know all about the Altria Artoria debacle, but apparently cannot go against the will of The Mushroom.
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You know what? It ended poorly last time you tried this, but that was only because her Master was actually watching her and giving her commands. You have no doubt in your mind that Rizo-Waal Strout is doing something he considers more worth his time than remaining in the shadows while he watches his Servant strong arm a human magus into giving her advice for clothes shopping, all while basically ignoring anything Rin suggests anyway. No, Mordred is either acting independently, or she's just taking her orders out of context and doing whatever she wants.

"Saber! Rin! What a pleasant surprise to see the two of you getting along so well!" You emerge from behind one of the clothes racks and greet the two of them with a smile. "I do like your outfit, Saber. I think that it fits you very well." You compliment Mordred on her choice of clothes. "How are you doing? I hope I didn't get you into any trouble for letting me escape."

"Trouble?" Mordred smirks. "Yeah. My Master was kinda disappointed that I let you get away, but the little runt with him with furious! Ranting and raving about making you understand how serious she was or something. She just called me stupid before she rushed off somewhere, I don't know what she was after, I thought she might've been planning on going after you, but I guess not." Mordred shrugs.

"Do you mind telling me what you're doing... in this shop?" You really want to get to the bottom of what Rin and Mordred are up to, it can't really be as simple as Mordred wanting clothes, can it?

"Oh, that's simple, I'm shopping for clothes. I found uh..." She looks at the magus next to her for a moment as she tries to recall her name. "Rin...? Here, and so I decided that I'd have her buy some clothes for me." Mordred smiles at you, a fierce looking smile, and not really one that suits somebody with as fair an appearance as her.

"But... why?" You basically plead with Mordred to give you some greater motive towards what she's up to instead of 'I wanted to go clothes shopping'

"Because I didn't want to steal them, duh. I'm still a knight, so I can't just go around doing stuff like that! That's why I decided to have moneybags here pay for all my stuff." Behind Rin's layer of fear for the Servant lies a great fury at being used as some sort of living credit card. "Can't say I feel like she's got a great eye for fashion though, all the frills and useless bits of material. What's the point?" One of Rin's eyes seems to twitch with rage as she's called unfashionable by the last person on Earth to know anything about fashion.

"Yes, but why were you buying clothes in the first place? Isn't it night time? Shouldn't you be out with your Master?" You really want to know just what this girl is after. This doesn't add up at all!
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"Nah. I got given my orders for tonight." Mordred frowns, before she suddenly grabs Rin, materializes her blade and puts it to the throat of the magus. "I'm really sorry about this though, you seemed alright." Rin goes as pale as a ghost as she feels the razor sharp edge of Clarent brushing against her throat. If she even attempted to struggle against Mordred's hold, she'd slash her own throat and bleed to death very quickly.

"Wait! Just... Just hold on, Mordred! What exactly are your orders?" You try to prevent the Servant from doing anything rash, and though Sakura clearly wants to attack, Rin being Mordred's hostage is more than enough to stay her hand.

Mordred spits on the floor before she responds. "I'm to bring my Master the head of one of your friends by midnight, so he can give it to his Master, otherwise he'll use his two remaining command spells to force me to kill myself." Mordred looks disgusted by what she's being forced to do. "I'd have killed him for his bullshit if I thought I could." Her frown turns into an angry grimace.

You... You can work with that! "W-wait a second! What if I told you that I could get you a new Master? Sever the contract between you and your Master, so you no longer have to do his bidding?" You plead with the Knight of Betrayal.

Mordred hesitates for a moment, clearly considering your words very carefully, before her gaze fixes on you and hardens. "Prove it. Prove that I can trust you." Now, it seems that Mordred is the one pleading with you. While Mordred isn't the sort of person to really care about killing, being forced into being no more than an assassin is a terrible thing to do to a Saber, and a knight like Mordred at that.

>"Shirou, show her Caliburn."
>"Shirou, show her Avalon."
>"Shirou, Show her Rule Breaker."
>"Let Rin go first, then I'll show you."
>Write-in...
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>>4646149
>>"Shirou, Show her Rule Breaker."
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>>4646149
Show her the Rule Breaker.
That's the whole idea right?
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>>4646149
>>"Shirou, show her Caliburn."
This is literally the only thing she wants
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If we are to earn her trust do we show her the method of which we can sever her connection OR do we show her what she truly wants? What she seeks? Her wish?
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>>4646149
>"Shirou, Show her Rule Breaker."
what would the other things even do in this case
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>>4646149
>>"Shirou, show her Caliburn."
When we met her last time, she asked if we could get her Caliburn.
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>>4646162
we can only guess what mordred meant by "Prove that I can trust you." I can mean a way to server the contract or what she wants at the end of this
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>>4646162
she said to prove that she can trust us, we promised her Caliburn the first time we met, showing it to her now proves that we weren't lying at all and we were going to make right on that promise
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>>4646149
Well, Rule Breaker is the one we're going to be using to disentangle it, but does she know how it works?
And Caliburn is the one she wanted, right?

And Shirou can bring up two blades at once, can't he?

so...

>why not both?

Although we should be ready for ambush regardless.
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>>4646149
>>4646159
I'll change my vote to Caliburn since that's what she wants apparently.
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>>4646167
I think >>4646170 has the right idea. She wants to trust us, let's make good on what we told her last time.
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>>4646149
>>4646153
I will change my vote to
>>"Shirou, show her Caliburn."
>>"Shirou, Show her Rule Breaker."
Show her what she wants and what we are gonna free her with.
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50 minutes till I call.
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>>4646149
>"Shirou, show her Caliburn."
I mean SHE DID ask for us to give her Caliburn
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>>4646149
Shirou, show her Caliburn
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>>4646183
>>4646160
>>4646149
if we can do both we should do both, change to this
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>>4646178
you have a point. but >>4646174 has a even better one.
>>4646163 i change my vote to
>make sword autist bring both caliburn and rule breaker
>also explain rule breaker to mordred
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>>4646187
>>4646183
Actually y’know what. Changing to this. We can both give her what she wants and make somebody (likely us) her new master
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>>4646149
>>"Shirou, show her Caliburn."
>>"Shirou, Show her Rule Breaker."
>also explain rule breaker to mordred
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>>4646149
Sorry to change my vote again but I would like to switch from this >>4646175
To this >>4646183
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>>4646149
>>4646183
Supporting this.
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>>4646149
>>"Shirou, show her Caliburn."
>>"Shirou, Show her Rule Breaker."
Rin should be her new Master if we get Mordred. As long as Shirou is alive EMIYA is not to be trusted.
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>>4646204
>Rin should be her new Master
You realise that the moment that the moment Archer gets released from Manaka's magic prison Rin is going to die from suddenly having two servants tied to her?
Our only options are Illya and Shinji.
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>>4646215
What about Shirou? Wouldn’t he be able to support two Sabers as he is now?
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>>4646219
Shirou must have all the sabers.
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>>4646215
Didn't Rin have enough magical energy to boost Saber to her strongest? I'm sure Rin has enough energy to support two servants, in one of the bad ends in Fate Saber wanted to contract with Rin as a second servant when Shirou gave up early. If Rin needs a "boost" we have magical energy for days. I just don't want Rin to go unprotected until we free everyone, and when EMIYA would eventually betray us to autistically kill his younger self,
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>>4646223
>If Rin needs a "boost" we have magical energy for days.
Got it, we need to do a mana transfer with Rin. But do you think we'll be able to convince her to use Ruby during it? I want to tug on her tail.
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>>4646149
>>"Shirou, Show her Rule Breaker."
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>>4646219
I doubt that he can do that. Unless QM tells us we can't be sure either way.
>>4646223
Boosting a servant and supporting them completely are two different things.
I also believe that Mordred takes more energy than Arturia but don't quote me on that.
>when EMIYA would eventually betray us to autistically kill his younger self
Current Shirou is different from past Archer's Shirou.
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>>4646223
Servant can be tasked with accompanying someone else than their master, no? Although I guess they won’t have benefit of mental link for communication that way.
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>>4646215
We have 3 servants tied to us and its already slowing us down, we're not even gonna walk much less use a reality marble if we add one more. Illya is the only option

>>4646223
yeah but at that point, Archer won't be able to effectively use UBW and Mordred won't be able to spam her NP

>>4646228
I swear to God, this is gonna come up somehow, someone is gonna need a mana transfer I just don't know who
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>>4646228
>Teen pregnancy during the grail war!
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>>4646219
Shirou went from shit tier to "average" Magus as far as we can tell, that's nowhere near enough to handle 2 servants, he's doing better than expected if he can bring Saber to her peak
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>>4646234
>We have 3 servants tied to us and its already slowing us down
It isn't. Look here >>4646043
As long as our servants are with Manaka we can temporarily contract more.
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>>4646244
yeah but what happens when we break them out? We have 4 servants now and we're gonna be drained, unless we decide to start having regular sex with someone or become a Dead Apostle
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>>4646250
>yeah but what happens when we break them out?
That's not happening any time soon.
As I said we can "temporarily" contract Mordred and then give her to someone else after we free our servants.
In any case I would prefer if Mordred was contracted with Illya. She without a doubt has enogh energy to support Mordred.
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>>4646183
+1
not sure if I voted this thread
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>>4646236
If only this would happen with Sakura...
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>>4646257
I just think we should give her to Illya now instead of down the line when we need break out our friends and we're half dying almost immediately after and can't do our cool reality marble stuff because we decided to be a master for 4 servants
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>>4646289
speaking of Sakura, isn't she also capable of having other servants? Magical Energy: EX and all, don't know how that'll work with her nullification stuff...
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>>4646297
How would that react with the whole MOMMY SEAL thing though?
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>>4646300
It won't do anything, Tiamat is effectively sealed and kinda chill, what you should really ask is if Sakura can actually be a Master since she can nullify magic, even beneficial stuff
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>>4646113
>https://nhentai.net/g/294330/
>shota MC

nah famalam
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>>4646363
well, idk what you were expecting
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Another update or is it safe to sleep?
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>>4646406
Update is coming.
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"Shirou!" You call out to the boy still hiding out of sight and he quickly appears at your sight. "Saber here wishes for me to give her a way to trust us." Shirou tilts his head at you in confusion. "If you wouldn't mind, could you please trace Rulebreaker for me?" You smile at the boy. The dagger of contract severing may not be a well-known Noble Phantasm, but with any luck, Mordred will be able to see just what sort of ability the Noble Phantasm has just from a glance.

"Oh... right! Trace on!" Shirou says the activation lines for his magecraft, and within a second, a jagged ceremonial dagger has appeared in his hand. "This was what you wanted, right?" Mordred's eyes narrow as she looks at the dagger warily, but she doesn't let up her grip on Rin. Looks like you might just have to do a little better than Rulebreaker alone.

"That's not enough for me to really trust you..." Mordred sounds like she's a little confused. "I mean, it's an evil looking dagger, and it's exuding a foul energy. Why do you think that will make me trust you?" Mordred doesn't seem to have really picked up on just what exactly it is that you're trying to do. Well, that's not great. You were sort of hoping that all you'd need to do was show her Rulebreaker and then she'd allow you to stab her with it. You suppose it might've been possible to have Sakura sneak attack Mordred with her ribbons first, but you may have made a mistake here...

"That is the dagger I intend to use to sever the contract of Servant and Master you have, but... I suppose that there is one more thing I could show you that might get you to trust me." You pause as you take a deep breath of air. You don't know if this is actually a good idea, but... "Shirou. Please... trace Caliburn." Mordred's eyes widen in surprise at the name of the Sword of Selection, and Shirou simply nods before closing his eyes and tracing a perfect copy of the sword, and once again, a sword has appeared in the hand of your friend.

Mordred drops her sword to the ground, her hand quivering. Looks like that had the intended effect... but her eyes... her eyes are wild, and she throws Rin into a rack of clothing before she dashes forwards, grabbing Caliburn and snatching it from Shirou's hands before pushing the boy towards Sakura and causing the two to go down in a heap.
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"Mordred! Stop!" You yell out in surprise as the girl takes hold of the Sword of Selection before she sinks it into the floor. "W-what are you doing?!" Mordred doesn't answer you, as she stops to take a breath. Just... what the hell is she doing? And then it becomes clear as she takes the handle of the blade once more, and pulls it triumphantly from the tile and brick floor. Re-enacting a legend as the true purpose of the Sword of Selection is activated. A sword created for the sole purpose of choosing a King. Mordred holds the sword in the air triumphantly, roaring in success as she does so, and as the blade reaches the zenith above her head, a shining white light engulfs everyone, a light of intense power! But... the purpose of the light... it's not meant to damage.

The presence of a Servant that was Mordred disappears entirely within the bright light and for a moment you believe the Servant to have somehow been rejected by the Sword of Selection, and erased entirely for the sin of drawing it forth, but reality is quite a bit different, as when the bright light has cleared away, you see standing before you, clad in her full armor that seems to be more detailed than it was before... Mordred. Around her shoulders is a cloak of red fabric and pure white fur, and in her hands is Caliburn, though not quite the Caliburn it was before, the gold of the blade has changed to the same color of her armor, and the blue accents of the sword have become red. No, a single glance upon this sword is all you need to know that this sword... it is no longer Caliburn, and Mordred... Mordred is no longer a Servant.

Status Updated!

"Hehehehe" Mordred giggles slightly as she looks at the sword in her hand, then bursts into roaring laughter as she realizes just what has happened, and you can't believe your eyes. Severing the contract between Mordred and Strout... well there is no longer a need for that. The Sword of Selection has bestowed immortality upon one who was already dead, and as a result, Mordred is no longer a Servant at all. No, Mordred is a living human being now. The King of Britain, as chosen by the Sword of Selection. Mordred looks at you, and, without a single moment of doubt she states something quite surprising. "While my Father had Merlin to act as his adviser, I think that you shall be my own." She then smiles at you with the authority that only a true king could replicate. "If you accept the role, my... benefactor." Mordred sounds like she has a small amount of difficulty remembering the right word. Looks like she's still the same girl she was before.

>Ask Mordred to explain what happened in detail first.
>Ask Mordred what she's planning on doing now that she's no longer a Servant.
>Accept Mordred's offer to become her adviser.
>Decline Mordred's offer.
>Panic.
>Write-in...
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>>4646461
>>Ask Mordred to explain what happened in detail first.
>>Ask Mordred what she's planning on doing now that she's no longer a Servant.
>>Accept Mordred's offer to become her adviser.
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>>4646461
Accept Mordred's offer to become her adviser
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I have one more thing I need to say to you all before I head off to bed.
99/100
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Oh man, it's gonna be fun to demand the "royal family's" abdication on live television to make way for Mo-ou.
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>>4646462
I imagine she doesn't quite have a favorable opinion on the current royal family of brits
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>>4646495
>Mordred is a living human being now
>While my Father had Merlin to act as his adviser, I think that you shall be my own
>99/100

Cool cool, the hole gets 50 feet deeper

>>4646470
>>4646461
+1
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>>4646461
>Accept Mordred's offer to become her adviser.
Time to coup a country.
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I am sure both Clocktower and the British crown will be happy to learn that we created a new king of Britain.
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We're gonna get a Hollow Ataraxia type deal when this is all over

>>4646523
Look man, like, half our friends are getting a sealing designation and we ain't gonna be able to hide that, we're gonna end up conquering England just to be safe
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Shit we can start a new legit royal bloodline.
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>>4646525
Zelretch better forget about sealing designations unless he wants to be erased from all parallel worlds.
>>4646526
We could already do that. Medea is a princess I believe.
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>>4646461
>>Ask Mordred to explain what happened in detail first.
Ugh, "British people", do we really want to help rule those?
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>>4646461
>Ask Mordred to explain what happened in detail first.

Welp guess thats at the very least less mana we need to use since Mordred is a human now.
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>>4646527
He's pretty chill, its just literally everyone else. The Church will go after us for harboring a Dead Apostle with (Who's gonna turn into a Dead Apostle Ancestor soon) and a True Ancestor and Clocktower will come after us for having a reality marble, for having a friend with a reality marble, for having another friend who's a truly immortal oni, for having a sister with an evil of humanity in her stomach, and for the servant turned human with the right to rule England
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>>4646461
>>4646470
Supporting
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>>4646537
Switching to >>4646470
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>>4646540
I would love to see how the Church or Clocktower are going to go after us with so many individuals with so much power being on our side.
Unless Zelretch and Aoko decide to team up and declare war on us I don't see mages or priests being a threat.
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>walk in
>we accidentally'd mordred into the next king of england
oh god, we've gone a slight bit off the rails.
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>>4646555
Zelretch will only go against us if we're like, actually threatening humanity which we're not, if we're left alone we'd probably just burn money, chill with our waifus or study magic stuff. Also Aoko likes us and her student is about to be our best bro soon.

You're also underestimating how hax certain people in the Church and Clocktower can get, there's one guy the Church has that can instantly kill anyone by killing himself, we would win but we'd lose people doing it
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>>4646555
You'd do well not to underestimate the Mage's Association and the power they can bring to bear.
As you would do well not to underestimate the Holy Church and especially the Burial Agency.

I should be asleep right now.

By the way, did you like today's session, everyone?
I was a little swamped with work.
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>>4646567
Genuinely didn't expect this so props
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>>4646564
>>4646567
The Church and the Association are a threat to us now but I feel that by the end of war we will have so many powerful allies and so much personal power that messing with us would be suicidal for them.
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>>4646567
hella good run tonight Whatis, I'm always glad to catch one! Rest up and relax, hope you're not burning yourself out.
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>>4646555
Before we get the Clocktower on our ass I'd like to suggest one more recruit to team shinji

/ourguy/ Kirsch should be...15-16ish right now?
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>>4646567
It was fun.
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>>4646567
Fun session, keep up the great work :D
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>Ask Mordred to explain what happened in detail first.
>Ask Mordred what she's planning on doing now that she's no longer a Servant.
>Accept Mordred's offer to become her adviser.

Alright lads, it's time to expand our company into england. I assume being her advisor comes with benefits in the uk's economy.
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I am not sure about this arrangement.
The title "advisor" implies that we are her subordinate and she is the one who gives us orders.
That would be fine in a different situation but right now we are in a middle of a war commanding our own faction.
If we agree to her offer will she agree to assist us in a war? Will she follow our orders in combat?
Or will she demand to be treated as a king and will attept to command our allies herself?
Rather than being her advisor wouldn't it be better to be her ally.
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>>4646461
>>Ask Mordred to explain what happened in detail first.
>>Ask Mordred what she's planning on doing now that she's no longer a Servant.
>>Write-in...
Make her a counter-offer of being her ally instead of adviser.
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>>4646655
thing is we would officially be the equivalent of merlin for king arthur, so mind you legally according to brittish law, shes the king there, and in addition us being her legal advisor probably doesn't make us that far off from prime minister of britain, which is hilarious. Either way though thats not much in the regard of this particular war and a what's going to go down after the 5th is concluded. for now odds are we are gonna be effectively in charge since she literally got her wish granted by the war just now and therefore has no stake in this other then making sure her advisor to the throne doesn't fucking get merc'd in the fifth.
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So what's happens to Thin Lizzy?
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>>4646655
Mordred's a retard, made us her advisor and implied to be obsessively in love with us, she'll almost certainly follow our lead
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>>4646495
Nice, maximum suffering is just one step closer
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Monica was right about everything.
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>another 90+/100
Yeah I'm thinking there will be another war after this one with Shinji's dick as the ultimate reward.
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>>4646709
Groovy
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>>4646709
At least this one isn't a yandere we have far too many crazy girls lusting over us.
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>>4646716
Arc, Sakura, Sarsuki, Illya, Medea, Mordred. Probably even Touko. This is gonna be wild.
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Doesn't this mean sabers wish has also been granted?
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>>4646719
Is Touko in love with us?
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>>4646732
Unclear. But after saving her from the time trap she has been more openly affectionate with us and she is trying to be with us too now.
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>>4646470
+1
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>>4646461
Post war can England be purged of the absolute state of modern bri'ísh """"""people"""""""?

>Accept her offer, but also ask to properly scan her to ensure we know Rizo has no hold over her
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>>4646461

>poker face
There might be a bit too late for that but still.
>Express Satisfaction that Mordred is no longer in bondage of the evil vampire
>ask her what she has planned
>Invite her to discuss our plans once we have gathered our allies in the mansion.

Before we take on the mantle of honor you are offering to bestow, there are matters we need to discuss.
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>>4646757
>Post war can England be purged of the absolute state of modern bri'ísh """"""people"""""""?
Anything's possible with Charisma A, but I doubt Mordred is going to be happy about the saracen holding influence over Britania.
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>>4646586
A few of the crypters could be gathered.

Pepe is either Seimei or as good as him as an onmyouji, might seek him to deal with the fox problem and make her more managable with a few seals on the excess tails. Maybe get a 3rd true ancestor for the harem and give Beryl a better shot at life. Daybit is still a meme mystery though.
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>>4646763
Make Londinium great again
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>>4646462
Everything went better than expected!

Although I guess this creates new stuff for us to mediate. I mean what about Arturia?
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>>4646769
Might cause a bit of a tiff between her and Shirou, just handing her retarded daughterson Caliburn, also Shirou being able to produce Caliburn without letting Saber know
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If this ends with Mordred claiming rightful rule over Britain, leading it to a new era of prosperity would that make this entire quest a roundabout continuation of Aurtorian legend?
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>>4646461
So, how will Saber reacts to this? Especially she is sitting just outside the shop waiting for us.
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>>4646772
Well, the sword is supposed to choose it’s wieder, is it not?

I’m guessing Moey proved her worth by rejecting her master’s wickedness or something.

Then again it could be an unexpected result of the origin of this instance of the sword which came not from the rock in England but Shirou’s RM.
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>>4646783
odds are likely she will be both extremely pissed off and probably even more confused then we are about the fact mordred somehow pulled it off of all things.
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>>4646779
nah after the war is done we gonna have to deal with a massive civil war in england. The clock tower is gonna be a gigantic fucking shitshow and i'm gonna feel really fucking bad about waver for this cause this was directly our fault.
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>>4646788
I think she'll hate herself even more when if she thinks she rejected a worthy successor to the throne and led her kingdom to ruin.
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>>4646791
too be fair mordreds had a fuckload of time on the throne of heroes and the 5th war to shape up and stop being a total shithead so she was actually worthy of it, like had she tried pulling the sword during arthur's time i get the feeling caliburn would have smote her ass.
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>>4646791
Well if its any consolation the circumstances required Mo-rud to keep seeking even after death while Artoria gave up and wanted to undo it all. Their interests align in this way anyway.

The real interesting meet up with be seibah forma de BLACKED meeting morud
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>>4646790
Can't wait to see the rightful king of England get cancelled for being an islamophobic racist.
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>>4646799
We should buy twitter btw. It was founded in 2006 I believe.
We should just buy all big IT companies acttually.
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>>4646803
That reminds me that all the TM twitter stories are gone now.
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>>4646803
oh god it was founded that early? shit i never actually realized that cause i thought nobody gave a shit about it till like 2015 or so.
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>>4646820
Oh yeah. We are in a prime position to buy out all modern big tech companies like Tesla and Apple and social shit like Facebook and Google.
We should also heavily invest in Bitcoin.
Additionally some anons discussed how we could gain some mad cash on 2008 economical crisis.
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>>4646824
Shinji is in a position to collapse the entire global economy come 2008. The world was 30 minutes away from the total undoing of the financial system. Give it a little poke extra by doing something like massively pumping the price of silver a few months before hand and the whole thing will go up.

The Harwey family did something similar and became the financial aristocracy of the planet in the Extra timeline too so its actually a fate/ thing too.
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>>4646461
>Ask Mordred to explain what happened in detail first.
>Ask Mordred what she's planning on doing now that she's no longer a Servant.
>Accept Mordred's offer to become her adviser.

>>4646462
Oh great, the one Type-Moon waifu that ranks above Medea and Satsuki for me. Because the Shinjibowl wasn't hard enough already. You know what, fuck it, the first one to act should win this.
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>>4646844
>the first one to act should win this
A war fought and won in a single strike, like a kurosawa film
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>>4646844
There can be more than one winner.
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We should check on Rin and help her back on her feet before talking with Mordred, she was just thrown away by a Servant after all.
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>>4646848
>"You're gonna break a lot of hearts when you grow up if you act like that around too many girls though, Shinji-kun. Just don't be surprised if you end up facing the consequences of doing something like that."
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>>4646855
It's not like we were flirting with every girl we've met.
We were saving Sakura because we cared about her.
We were helping Illya because we pitied her.
We were helping Arc because she threatened us and we needed her help.
We were helping Mordred to make her into our ally instead of an enemy.
Basically we are trying to be a good person or being practical and women are just trowing themself at us.
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>>4646862
That was said in explicit reference to that kind of behavior.
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>>4646461
>Ask Mordred to explain what happened in detail first.
>Ask Mordred what she's planning on doing now that she's no longer a Servant.
>Accept Mordred's offer to become her adviser.
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>>4646864
Oh? What was the alternative tho?
Abandon Sakura, Satsuki and Illya? Do not recruit Medea? Kill Mordred?
Let Touko be stuck reliving her death for who knows how long?
Run away from Arc and don't get her help against Altrouge and Primate Murder?
That sure would be a nice and enjoyable quest.
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>>4646862
No regrets.
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i had another dream about this quest, what the fuck
>>4646461
>Ask Mordred to explain what happened in detail first.
>Ask Mordred what she's planning on doing now that she's no longer a Servant.
>Accept Mordred's offer to become her adviser.
>ask mordred for her to say sorry to rin and go see if she is ok
>>4646462
ha
>>4646855
no regrets
>>4646790
Well it is said that if all of waver's students where to come together they could very well change the foundations of the clock tower.
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>>4646868
As I've said before, I don't regret the choices we've made up to this point.
All I am saying is that we shouldn't underestimate the danger of dealing with this many infatuated powerhouses.
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>>4646873
I recently had a dream about Sacchin tearing her way through a whole mansion of Dead Apostles.
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>>4646873
Unironically trying to explain this shit to Waver is going to worry me more then anything here:
>uh waver
>you might want to take your entire department and flee england before it gets embroiled in a massive civil war
>WHAT DID YOU DO?
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>>4646893
As amusing that would have been, is there any real reason to be concerned about a civil war happening?

I mean, who would genuinely go and risk their life and limb for benefit of a pretty girl with a fancy sword? She'd get a following of simps on social media and that'd be the end of it.

Maybe we could buy her a greek island following their sovereign debt crisis and call it New Albion or something.
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>>4646893
I wonder how reines will react to this.
But seriously, this shit can wait for after the war, after it we see how the 2 idiots will do about england.
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>>4646899
few things, shes legally the rightful king of england, shes unironically immortal, is literally immune to modern magic, and mordred is literally the exact type of person who would happily overthrow the government if she had reason too since she's already done that once with her own father. mages will unironically flock to this mess and try to stir the shitshow to no end cause this is a spectacular clusterfuck of international proportions.
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>>4646902
She also has Charisma: A when she draws Clarent now, don't forget.
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>>4646903
honestly if anything is gonna completely blow open the can of worms that is revealing magic mordred actually becoming king is definitely gonna be it if anything.
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>>4646905
We have two decades max for magicraft to be revealed to the world.
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This shit is really spiraling out of control.

Then again, maybe with all these friends we’ll be in position to get mankind and planet to reconcile?
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>>4646899
There is a fatal flaw in your reasoning, in that she has two fancy swords.
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We need to remember after returning to fuyuki to get on with waver to see if he wants to come and bring with him the spear.
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>>4646925
It's traditional though.
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>>4646899
What do you think Charisma B is supposed to do?
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>>4646928
Attracting the Association's attention is probably not a good idea in our situation.
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>>4646933
waver not the rest.
he can just bullshit a lie or just tell that he wants to try to summon rider again like in canon.
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"But... what happened? Why are you... alive now, Mordred?" You decide to ask the apparent new king a few questions before signing yourself up to be her magical adviser. After all, you can't accept an offer like that without knowing exactly what just happened, or just what Mordred is actually planning on doing now that she's got the freedom to do whatever she wants. You somehow feel like Saber isn't going to at all be happy about this. You know this for a fact actually. Well... it was sort of an accident?

"Isn't it obvious? You were the one who got this sword for me, weren't you? I didn't think this would happen either, but... well, I also didn't think I'd ever be able to get a shot at Caliburn like this." Mordred shrugs. "I guess that when Caliburn accepted me as King, the same magic that was once applied to my father was applied to me and made me not only more powerful, but also infused this spiritual body of mine with life." She looks at the sword in her hand, marveling and at the red and silver look that Caliburn has taken, the sword now exudes far more power than it ever did before, strengthened by its new paradoxical existence of choosing a king who was dead after it was broken. It has ascended beyond simply being a projection made by Shirou, and has become a true Noble Phantasm in the possession of the new King, Mordred Pendragon. "So... I'm alive again, and..." Mordred pauses for a moment as the fact that she's no longer hindered by her immensely shortened life as a homunculus sinks in. "Alive and immortal..."

"Allow me to be the first one to congratulate you then... King Mordred." Now, there's something you never thought you'd be saying, but life is full of surprises. Just earlier today you found out you made at least two people completely immortal, and then you accidentally summoned a Beast class Servant into your sister, and now you've made Mordred the rightful King of Britain! This is turning out to be a very interesting... Thursday? You think it's Thursday. You've not really been paying much attention. "But... what exactly are you planning on doing now? You aren't exactly being held back by the grail war or a Master anymore, you could do... well whatever you want!"
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"Well, I guess I'm going to need to claim my birthright at some point, I can't just allow the false royal family of Britain to rule now, can I?" You... You don't think it's going to be so simple as the entire royal family just abdicating because a pretty girl showed them her cool sword. Though she might blow up Buckingham Palace if they refused to let her be king... Hopefully, the now inevitable British Civil War won't be too difficult to handle. "But first off, I think I need to get revenge on that bastard Master of mine, and make sure that my adviser's business in Japan is concluded to his satisfaction." She looks down at the blade in her hand and laughs a little. "He might've been protected from the strikes of other weapons due to that curse of time on his body, but... a sword which itself is a violation against time... He'll not have so much luck defending himself against this blade, I think." Mordred smiles with confidence as she declares her intention to slay the Dead Apostle who was her Master. "You are my adviser, right?"

"I... suppose it couldn't hurt if I were to take on such a role." You smile at the newly crowned king... well, not crowned because she's yet to actually claim the crown, but you don't think it will take her very long at all to conquer a country as she is now, so your point stands. The only people who could really oppose her are the Mage's Association, and they tend to remain mostly apolitical to outside affairs... Though that might stand to change if a legendary figure from the past attempted to take over Britain.

"Excellent!" Mordred seems incredibly happy as you accept her offer, and then unexpectedly, she turns to Shirou, who has just finished getting back up to his feet and is helping Sakura get up as well. "You there, you're the smith who recreated my blade, aren't you? I've seen the way you handle the weapons you create... you're not just a blacksmith, but you're a warrior as well, aren't you?" Shirou looks completely bewildered by Mordred's question, before answering.

"I... don't think of myself as a warrior." Shirou says calmly as he looks at Mordred. "But if I have to, I'll fight until my dying breath in order to protect everything." He looks at Mordred with a stern face now, and the new king simply smiles in his direction.
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"Quite a noble goal, how would you like to be one of my Knights?" There's no ulterior motive behind Mordred's offer, and for a moment it feels that she might've actually forgotten that Shirou is the Master of Saber. "I don't need your answer immediately, of course. I imagine there are plenty of others who would be willing to serve me as one of my knights." She simply shrugs, leaving Shirou looking even more bewildered. Mordred then walks over to Rin, who despite being thrown away by Mordred, wasn't actually thrown with any sort of force, and simply landed in a pile of soft looking coats, Mordred extends a hand out to Rin in order to help her get up, and after looking at the offered hand for a moment and hesitating, Rin grabs her hand and is lifted to her feet with ease. Clearly she has no idea what the hell is going on right now either.

"Mooooordreeeed!"Before another word can be said, you can feel a massive blast of magical energy as the front of the shop is torn apart by a charge... you're actually really glad that there was like, nobody else in the shop. Did Rin hypnotize them all into leaving when she was being forced to buy things for Mordred? Whatever happened, it's quite irrelevant now. The blur blur of energy speeding into the shop is met by a red blur as Mordred matches the charge of her 'father', the invisible blade of Excalibur meeting with the silver blade of Caliburn Camlann. The two seem perfectly equally matched as Mordred blocks Saber's strike. Clothing and clothing racks go everywhere from the force of the two attacking each other, though it doesn't actually look like Mordred is giving it her all.

"Father!" Mordred seems a lot happier to see Saber than Saber looks to see Mordred right now. "Look! I've become the king! Caliburn recognized me!" Mordred exclaims with joy not unlike that of a child as Saber looks at her 'son'. Saber doesn't look very happy to see the now King Mordred, but what could've led her to attack? Was it worry for Shirou? Shame for her own actions in the past? Was she simply overwhelmed by her own emotions?

"That light... How did you do it? How did you get your hands on Caliburn?!" Saber is looking at the sword in Mordred's hands with... jealousy? How very unlike Saber, to be jealous of somebody else's weapon. Is her dislike of her only true heir that deep? You can see Arcueid's curious face peering through the large hole into the now mostly ruined clothing store like somebody spectating the events of a movie. You pretty clearly can't rely on her to help out for this.

>Let Mordred try to explain things to her father.
>Looks like you'll have to explain things. Saber is too angry right now to listen to Mordred.
>Tell Shirou to do it, it's his Servant and her daughterson.
>Have Sakura restrain Saber. You can't very well raise a hand against Mordred after accepting her offer to be her aide.
>Write-in...
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>>4646945
artoria hate of mordred is dumb.
wish FGO touched on it but it refuses to have the 2 talk with each other seriously.
>Looks like you'll have to explain things. Saber is too angry right now to listen to Mordred.
>if that don't work have shirou do it
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>>4646948
FGO refuses to do anything at all with Saber Artoria tbf
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>>4646945
>Looks like you'll have to explain things. Saber is too angry right now to listen to Mordred.
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>>4646948
From her perspective, the last time this particular Saber saw Mordred was when she was fatally stabbing her and getting fatally stabbed.
She's not really had much time to reflect at all about Mordred here.
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>>4646945
>>Looks like you'll have to explain things. Saber is too angry right now to listen to Mordred.

Shirou would be probably better suited to handle both Sabers but I guess he doesn't have all the relevant knowledge at this time.

Let's try to get them to make up...
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>>4646945
>Tell Shirou to do it, it's his Servant and her daughterson.
Delegating bitch responsibilities.
We got 99 bitches and potential problem with all of them. I have faith in our bro to handle this Oyakodon dish.
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>>4646953
Thats true, but she should try to see the big picture of what lead to everything.
Seriously, artoria is very bad at seeing someone point of view about something.
Fucking hope shirou can make this idiots like each other again.
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>>4646954
Also hoping Shirou will have our back in this.

We can take responsibility for being the ones who gave Shirou memory of Caliburn and have him bring it up without explaining him the significance, so at least the blue girl won't be too mad at him.
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>>4646945
>Looks like you'll have to explain things. Saber is too angry right now to listen to Mordred.
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>>4646945
>Looks like you'll have to explain things. Saber is too angry right now to listen to Mordred.
Let's rely on our charisma to solve this one peacefully.
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>>4646945
>>Looks like you'll have to explain things. Saber is too angry right now to listen to Mordred.
>>Tell Shirou to do it, it's his Servant and her daughterson.
Aight we need both of us to do it
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Since we're doing this shit, happy reminder that Lancer Saber is best Saber.
A true king has true kingly milkers.
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Do you like Caliburn Camlann, by the way?
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>>4646972
She must be the best if she has two classes.
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>>4646977
Yeah that definitely works
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>>4646977
I give it two thumbs up.
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>>4646977
Very fitting.
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Another busy looking day.
Calling in... an hour?
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>>4646945
>>Tell Shirou to do it, it's his Servant and her daughterson.
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>>4646945
>Looks like you'll have to explain things. Saber is too angry right now to listen to Mordred.

Let the Advisor and future Prime Minister of England talk. Also SHIROU OF THE ROUND TABLE HYPE.
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>>4646977
Yeah its pretty cool.

>>4646945
>Tell Shirou to do it, it's his Servant and her daughterson.

Should things go poorly, well......get ready to run like Shaggy.
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>>4646945
>Looks like you'll have to explain things. Saber is too angry right now to listen to Mordred.
We have skill exactly for this kind of a situation.
>>4646899
>Maybe we could buy her a greek island following their sovereign debt crisis and call it New Albion or something.
A classical trick from playbook of russian oligarchs.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanov_Empire_(micronation)
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>>4646977
sure
>>4647019
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanov_Empire_(micronation)
interesting
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>>4647024
Not even the weirdest one.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asgardia
If Moon Cell ends up actually existing in this version of Nasuverse we should probably just do that.
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>>4647019
>>4647031
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanov_Empire_(micronation)
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asgardia

I guess Prime Minister Makiri has a new objective.
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>>4646945
>>Looks like you'll have to explain things. Saber is too angry right now to listen to Mordred.
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You know, I gotta wonder what Shinji would actually advise Mordred to do....
Like, she's got Charisma A. She won't have any problems leading her people and in fact, probably has a better idea of how to lead a nation than Shinji does.
I suppose we could catch her up with the current state of modern politics both in the mundane world and the magical world, but that's far from our specialty and might be something she's sorta privy to already as a former servant, and if not, it shouldn't be hard for her to figure it out and make good use of it with her aforementioned Charisma A. I suppose with the power of Golden Rule A+++, we could be a sort of economic adviser. Hit em up with that post war economic miracle after the British Civil War that seems to be inevitable given how stubborn Mordred is, but that skill is only related to Investment so is that even something we could do?
What the fuck are Shinji's qualifications to help rule a nation and advise a king?
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>>4647059
Mordred isn't actually very smart. Charisma A or not.
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>>4647059
As far as Mordred is aware, an advisor is a wizard that gives you magic swords.
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>>4647061
And magic dicks.
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>>4647059
>>4647060
Also as an incredibly powerful magic wielding kingmaker who doesn't really count entirely as a human with a lot of women trouble who can tell the future to some degree, you're just about as qualified as Merlin was.
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>>4647064
That falls under the category of magic swords.
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>>4647059
Mordred can be inspiring public figure but she has no actual idea how to run a country and really blunt about most of things which makes her pretty subpar for most of modern politics. Shinji is smart and has connections with a lot of money and aptitude for more subtle cloak-and-dagger politics. And he is much better negotiator and does not have problems with his temper.
And both are more qualified to run a country than most of modern politics anyway.
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>>4647065
Fuck, we're truly the modern Merlin huh?
Future Servants out of this timeline: Caster Shinji and Saber Shirou.
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>>4647065
are you asking us to make mordred grow a dick
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>>4647080
Close your eyes and think of England.
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>>4647060
Well does she actually need anything else as a monarch in a constitutional monarchy?
Unless she wanted to bring absolutism back.
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>>4647060
Weird how that works.
I know Charisma and Intelligence are considered different things, but with how it's defined in Fate, Charisma is the ability to successfully lead nations, armies, etc. I can't imagine someone being a good leader on such a level without having some above level intelligence.
Then again, this is anime.
I guess Mordred will be the Mad Genius to our Human Computer.
The dumb leader protag that never gives up to our glasses pushing, "all according to keikaku", self.
Hehehe, it seems we play that role for a ton of people. Really makes you think, huh.

>>4647065
>Spoiler
That's....very concerning.

>>4647071
>Mordred is a god damn inspiration
Facts
>Shinji would make a fine politician
Eeeeeeeeeeh, sure I suppose.
I was gonna debate you on this as a joke, but with Charming Boy C, Shinji has the Charisma to successfully run an international conglomerate, a small country, or to raise the morale of an army by a large amount.
So maybe I'm just worried about nothing.
Seems like a time consuming job though. Imagine having to uproot our whole base of operations to go live with Mordred wherever the hell she ends up.
Adviser to the king is a full as job after all!
Maybe we should have insisted on the role of teacher instead, pull a Touko, and not actively be there 5 times outta 10.
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>>4647074
Cool
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>>4647085
>>4647087
In all honesty I don't think we will get to do genre change and play a nation builder.
And going purely by skills which we develop rather fast it is probably smarter to do Monarcho-Socialism/Syndicalism/Mladorossi with Mordred being Eternal King and nationalise everything to abuse and further upgrade our Charisma and Golden Rule skills. And force everyones to LARP as if they were from Arthurian era.
But this is getting into HoI4 mods territory. I think I need to check Red Flood for this option.
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>>4647111
>Monarcho-Socialism
Ayo, that doesn't sound too bad!
Memes aside, we're all talking casually about Mordred trying to come out as god king for life, but wouldn't that like....get the Clocktower on our ass in and of itself?
Like, taking over a nation is one thing, but using magecraft openly to do it seems like a great way to piss off a shit ton of people. Especially if we let Mordred run wild and actually go for taking over England proper instead of finding an island for her to rule over.
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>>4647111
Considering that we are the head of a corporation I think a fusion of constitutional monarchy and corporatism would suit us best.
Shinji will hold the position of CEO/head of government and Mordred will be chairman/king.
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>>4647111
Time to be one of the leaders of a nation.
Then after that find clever and genius people to help us find a way to make magicraft survive the death of mystery
>>4647138
damn mordred is hot
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>>4647087
We can make a puppet to at least help making decisions if we are not with her.
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>>4647138
We don't have to conquer the UK through force.
We have already planned to become the richest man in the world using 2008 economic crisis. What is stopping us from scheming behind the scenes so that the UK was to be hit harder than any other country?
And then when they are on the brink of collapse we will offer them salvation in exchange for abdication of the false royalty and the installation of the true king.
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There is at least one mod for those fantasies.
>>4647138
>>4647148
>>4647173
Yeah, it is probably the safest way to just take over with 2008 economic crisis by debt trapping UK and going business as usual afterwards to maintain benefits of controling megacorp.
But it is not likely that Mordred will go with pretending to be part of current UK royal family shadow deal and not just announce being Mordred. Which will put us versus the rest of magical world and probably Church as well.
We could probably fuck the world into warlord anarchy by collapsing global economy and supply chain and just take over with money and promises of order. Less eyes on us if world is burning.
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"W-wait a second, Saber! There's a reasonable explanation for all of this! Just... sheathe your blade, there is no need for this to be violent, I don't believe that..." You almost refer Mordred by a royal title, before catching yourself. Somehow you don't think that Saber would appreciate hearing Mordred being referred to as 'my liege' or anything right now. Besides, you're just an advisor, so unless she conquers Japan and becomes its ruler, you technically aren't her subject... "I don't believe that Mordred wants to fight you, Saber!" You move in between the two Kings before they can clash with each other once again. Somehow, you know that this isn't a battle that Saber can win without relying on Avalon. Mordred as she is now has surpassed her father in strength, as even in her first life she was capable of slaying Arturia in a mutual kill. Now Mordred has been empowered as the True King of Britain and has a living body, a Servant like Saber would never be able to defeat her in a fight without using Excalibur and Avalon.

"A... reasonable explanation? What possible explanation could exist for... this?!" Saber is clearly not happy by Mordred somehow having not only drawn Caliburn for herself, but for the sword in her possession having become inextricably linked to the now King Mordred. For Saber looking upon the sword, it would be like having a precious object stolen away from her before being told that it no longer belongs to her and so she can't take it back.

"It's really quite simple, I had Shirou trace a perfect replica of Caliburn in order to show that we could be trusted, and... well Mordred here did the rest. It... wasn't quite my intention for this to happen, but... well, Mordred is now alive and is technically the True King of Britain now." Saber goes pale as you explain things to her. "It seems like the Sword of Selection deemed her worthy or the role, Saber, and thus the same great magic that happened to at the start of your journey has now happened to Mordred also." Saber looks at the sword in Mordred's hands, and it seems that understanding finally dawns on her face, that this wasn't some act of great theft, but in truth it was the Sword of Selection giving to Mordred what Saber herself refused to accept. The acknowledgment that she was the one true rightful heir to the throne of Britain.

"I... then..." Saber seems at a loss for words as she continues to focus on the sword in Mordred's hand and on Mordred's face. "Then... I..." Saber allows the invisible blade in her hand to dissipate. Suddenly, the King of Knights turns tail and leaves, whether it be out of shame for her own actions, or rage at what Mordred has done, you do not know. But there's nothing you nor Mordred can do to stop Saber as she rushes off, and while you suppose Arcueid could chase Saber down to stop her, that would just be needlessly cruel and totally uncalled for.
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Shirou suddenly starts racing after his Servant as she leaves the store, clearly able to tell just how bad an emotional state that Saber has been put in, though you aren't really sure she'll want to see him after he ended up being the reason behind Mordred's acquisition of Caliburn. Ah well, maybe he'll be able to talk her round. If there's anyone on the planet capable of doing such a thing to Saber, it's Shirou. The boy leaves without a word as he goes after Saber, and though he won't be able to catch her if she truly wanted to be alone, you somehow get the feeling that they'll end up bumping into each other.

Mordred sighs as she looks out into the street. "I was hoping that Father would be happy for me..." There's a deep sadness in her voice as even now, Saber is refusing to properly acknowledge Mordred as the king, despite it being a complete impossibility to do anything else now.

"Don't worry, Mordred. Your father is simply not used to having to deal with her emotions like she is being forced to do so now. For so long she suppressed her emotions in order to try to become the perfect king." You look at the king before you smile at her. "Don't worry though, I'm sure that she'll come around. If there's anybody who can convince your father to see things in a different light, it's Shirou Emiya." You mean those words. Nobody else could convince Saber to change her ways like the boy chasing after her right now, the one person she ever loved romantically... or well, will love romantically. You aren't really sure where their relationship is right now.

"I'll hold you to that, adviser, though... are you going to just keep calling me 'Morded'? Aren't I your king now?" Mordred pouts as you keep referring to her only by her name.

>"Well, what would you prefer I call you?"
>"But I like your name."
>"Would you prefer my liege? Your majesty? Your highness?"
>"How about 'King Mordred'? Would that be better? It's a bit of a mouthful."
>"How about 'Ruler'?"
>Write-in...
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>>4647224

>"Well, what would you prefer I call you?"
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>>4647224
>"But I like your name."
I refuse to call her by a title until she's actually in charge of something.
Let it be a motivator for her to try even harder than she already would have.
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>>4647224
>>"Would you prefer my liege? Your majesty? Your highness?"
>"Your grace? Your eminence? Your excellency? My esteemed sovereign? My thane? My Ruler?"
>"Well, though luck, I'm not Bri'ish"
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>>4647224
>"But I like your name."
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Don't worry Saber, we'll get you some nice upgrades too so you won't feel left out.
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>>4647240
Excellent idea if you want Mordred to conquer Japan too.
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>>4647254
Yeah sure, fuck them too.
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>>4647224
>"But I like your name."
>"Well, what would you prefer I call you?"
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>>4647224
>"But I like your name
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>>4647224
>"But I like your name."
>>4647254
>>4647263
Supreme leader Mo-san.
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>>4647224
>But I like your name
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>>4647224
>"But I like your name."
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>>4647224
>"But I like your name."
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>>4647224
>>"But I like your name."
>>Write-in...
How about Moechan.
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>>4647138
Gods i love her so much.
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>>4647224
>>"Well, what would you prefer I call you?"
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>>4647254
code geass setting then?
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>>4647224
>Mordred pouts as you keep referring to her only by her name.
Fucking adorable.
>"But I like your name."
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>>4647250
I just now remembered that with saber summoned gray has now blond hair too.
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>>4647351
I guess now she's Yellow.
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>>4647224
>"But I like your name."
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>>4647351
Technically she's still got gray hair, but the presence of Arturia has given her Blonde streaks.
Or well, I guess she's got two different shades of blonde actually... and a recently developed case of heterochromia.
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>>4647418
We need to summon Lancer and Lancer Alter versions here as well just to see how it will affect her.
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>>4647421
The Lancer versions of Arturia don't actually exist in this timeline and thus the standard summoning method can't pull them from the throne, the only way to summon them would be to rig up a new summoning system that can pull Heroic Spirits from other timelines.
The same is true for Caster Arturia.
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>>4647424
>"Look at me, I am the FGO now."
True Dead End.
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The very fact that Archer is still in this world is proof that we could already summon from other timelines isn’t it? After all, wouldn’t our interferences mean that we’ve already changed time?
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>>4647448
yeah that's what i'm thinking, there are 3 sets of Servants, a Foreigner and 2 or 3 Beasts manifesting, the Grail is clearly something different
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>>4647224
>"But I like your name."
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>>4647448
Archer is in a weird place due to the catalyst of his summoning, being from the future, and being a Counter Guardian.
As he comes from the future, then anything that MIGHT be linked to him in the past is capable of summoning him, meanwhile anything that could be used to summon a different timeline's version of Arturia Pendragon would end up summoning the version of her that actually exists in the past.
Also, the Arturia of proper history isn't even a Heroic Spirit at all, she either eventually becomes a Counter Guardian, goes insane, or goes to Avalon.
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>>4647455
>she either eventually becomes a Counter Guardian
Really?
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>>4647457
If she gets her wish granted, yeah.
Of course, that would require her to end up coming across somebody capable of overcoming a quantum time lock.
Like Manaka.
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>>4647455
>>4647463
So what you're saying is, we need to summon best bro to yeet a thot back into the grail?
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>>4647470
i think he's multiverse hoping to slay Beast 666 so he might show up
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>>4647470
I just want him to get buffed so my three favorite Sabers will actually be good.

>>4647455
So, a theoretical Saber sir Emiya of the Neo-Round Table from this Timeline would be possible?
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>>4647470
>>4647477
Getting the prototype gang to show up via. Multiverse grail Manaka shenanigans would be pretty kino. Artoria and Mordred would be unable to comprehend an actual Male Arthur, teen-Gil and adult-Gil's battle would be catastrophic, Perseus and Medusa interactions would be interesting. Both versions of Cu would just chill.
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>>4647224
>Write-in...
>Can I call you King Mordred, but Mo-ou for short if the situation calls for it?
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Is the vote called?
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>>4647503
yeah and the update is almost done.
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>>4647504
nice
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"But... I like your name, Mordred." You smile at the king as she tries to get to refer to you by a title more befitting of... well, a king.

"Y-you do?" Mordred goes red for a moment before, in the blink of an eye, she recovers, her face once again attempting to show the regal status of somebody with her position. She's really trying her best to act like a king right now. "Then... as a special privilege to you alone as my advisor, I shall permit you to use it freely." Mordred crosses her arms, giving her first ever royal decree. "Now, my advisor... uh, what are we supposed to do now?" Mordred laughs a little awkwardly as she reveals she actually has no idea how to go about accomplishing any of her wishes. Typical.

Rin, having risen to her feet, just looks completely baffled by what's going on, as does Sakura. The two sisters share a look of understanding as they look at the armor-clad king. But neither of them say anything, Rin is still clearly quite fearful of Mordred, especially after the swordswoman was moments from taking her damn head off. You'd be wary of somebody who did that to you as well.

Arcueid waltzes into the clothes store without a single care, skipping over the damaged clothing racks and piles of clothing. Mordred eyes the True Ancestor warily as she comes to a stop next to you. "Good evening, King of Britain." The vampire casually addresses Mordred. The White Princess of the True Ancestors meeting the New King of Britain and not really showing much of a care for the status Mordred now has, though she does seem to be very interested by Mordred's sword, her own version of Caliburn seems to be an order of magnitude more powerful than the original weapon ever was, you're quite certain that the weapon she holds in her hands right now would be capable of wiping out Heracles' entire stock of lives in a single blast. It feels like as it exists now, Caliburn Camlann is a far greater weapon than the prototype weapons that it was based upon, neither Gram nor Merodach could hold a candle to it. Is this the power of a sword formed of a paradox? Could the weapon hold within it a hidden power even greater than that which you can determine from examining it?

"Uh, good evening..." Mordred should probably already know who Arcueid is unless her Master didn't actually tell her anything... which is actually fairly likely, honestly. Strout is a pretty incredible guy, despite never actually meeting him once in your entire life personally, you think that he's earned his position on the 'absolute worst people' list, alongside Zouken and Kirei for people who are exceptionally terrible.

You whisper into Mordred's ear. "That's Arcueid Brunestud, White Princess of the True Ancestors... part-times as the Moon." Mordred is clearly confused by the last part of your sentence, but simply accepts it as fact, after all, she did decide to make you her advisor.
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"Good evening, Princess." Mordred decides that the most important part about what you said was Arcueid's official title as a princess, though seeing as how True Ancestors are practically an extinct race, she's effectively the princess of nobody. It's kind of sad how almost all of the True Ancestors ended up being wiped out, but seeing as they are the ones responsible for the creation of the Dead Apostles and Dead Apostle Ancestors through their own shortsightedness, you can't really feel all that bad about their eventual fates.

"Well, I suppose that we ought to hurry and decide what to do next, the night is young, and I do believe we have a Dead Apostle Ancestor or two to hunt..." You look to the sky. "Funny, this will be the third Dead Apostle Ancestor I've killed or been responsible for the death of in... oh, twenty-four hours?" You smirk to yourself. "Mordred, do you know if Strout and the little runt girl are still at the place I escaped from yesterday afternoon? We may have the opportunity to completely blindside them with a full on attack."

"I don't really know if they were sticking around, Strout didn't tell me a damn thing." Mordred growls at the reminder of just how terrible her Master must've been to her.

"Well, I suppose that we best check there first for clues as to their whereabouts...

>but first, we need to return to the mansion. There we can regroup. I'll give Shirou an hour or so with Saber before calling him."
>but first, we'll fetch Illya and then return to the mansion. There we can properly form a plan when everyone is back together."
>let's not waste any time. I think that between the five of us, we should be more than a match for Altrouge and Rizo-Waal Strout."
>but before that, Mordred, could you please tell me what exactly you know about Rizo-Waal Strout and his abilities?"
>Write-in...
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>>4647521
>but first, we need to return to the mansion. There we can regroup. I'll give Shirou an hour or so with Saber before calling him."
Probably a smart idea to gather everyone up and regroup. Gives us some time to plan and actually get shit done properly.
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>>4647521
>but before that, Mordred, could you please tell me what exactly you know about Rizo-Waal Strout and his abilities?"
This is pretty much the biggest unknown here.
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>>4647521
>>let's not waste any time. I think that between the five of us, we should be more than a match for Altrouge and Rizo-Waal Strout."
I'm expecting someone to jump into the fight to save us.
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>>4647521
>but first, we'll fetch Illya and then return to the mansion. There we can properly form a plan when everyone is back together
Let's gather our forces.
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>>4647521
>but first, we'll fetch Illya and then return to the mansion. There we can properly form a plan when everyone is back together."
Let’s reduce the amount of variables.
Touko will likely want to participate too.
Also, where is Satsuki? We shouldn’t leave her alone like this either.

And I suppose there’s not much point in it since severance of the Servant contract would not have gone unnoticed but where was she supposed to bring Rin’s head?
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>>4647521
>but first, we'll fetch Illya and then return to the mansion. There we can properly form a plan when everyone is back together."
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>>4647540
>where was she supposed to bring Rin’s head?
That's a good question to ask Mordred.
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>>4647521
>But first, we'll fetch Illya and then return to the mansion. There we can properly form a plan when everyone is back together.
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>>4647540
She would've been told where through the telepathic link.
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>>4647540
>Also, where is Satsuki?
We left her in the mansion.
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40 minutes till call.
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>>4647521
>>but first, we'll fetch Illya and then return to the mansion. There we can properly form a plan when everyone is back together."
>ask where was she supposed to bring rin's head to
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>>4647571
>>ask where was she supposed to bring rin's head to
>>4647553
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You know we're a lot like Merlin now that I think about it, we like involving ourselves in people's lives in order to make it better, we have the potential to destroy humanity, we're kinda full of ourselves even though its deserved and we want to fuck anything that moves
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>>4647578
>we want to fuck anything that moves
WE, want to fuck anything that moves.
Shinji's honestly not that horny, he's just a honeypot for powerful dangerous women.
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>>4647583
ok but we make his choices and we go out of our way to look good in front of girls half the time
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>>4647587
As far as I can tell we’re trying our best to make our friends happy, not to look good in front of them.

That most of them happen to be pretty girls comes with the territory of source material. But we’ve been doing our best for the lads as well when it was applicable.
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>>4647606
>But we’ve been doing our best for the lads as well when it was applicable.
We could do more to hang out with just Shirou or Shiki. We do everything with at least two waifus attached to the hip.
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>>4647606
For example we could have bullshitted them about our encounter with Tamamo-no-Mae instead of admitting how it went. That would have been trying to look good. Instead we placed faith in them by being honest about it.
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>>4647587
We make his choices but how he acts out our choices never show him to be particularly horny.
I also honestly don't think we, as players, go out of our way to look good in front of girls.
We go out of our way to look good in general because of course we do, and because of Charming Boy, girls go gaga for it.
I'm sorry Shinji's dick musk makes all the Yandere's turn into waterfalls!
It's not our fault!

>>4647607
>We could do more to hang out with just Shirou or Shiki.
That would honestly be really nice honestly.
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>>4647607
Usually it was more practical to take the girls, or at least it seemed like a good idea at the time. Taking shiki to deal with Roa meant additional hoops of unlocking his power and afterwards it was not clear he’d have reason to go with us, especially still with his powers uncontrolled. We still spoke up for him with Akiha. SHIKI needed some time to adjust, or so it seemed.
Maybe you’re disappointed we didn’t face the consonant man with Shikis, but can you honestly say going after him alone seemed like it would result in that rather than in a dead end? Even though admittedly exposing Sakura was not the most thought out thing we could’ve done in retrospect.

As for Shirou, can’t speak for others but I didn’t want to play a third wheel. But I guess we could hang out more.
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>>4647607
I just wanna hangout with all our best bros and have a cool tag team fight just once and actually become friends with Rin instead of having a weirdly hostile one sided rivalry

>>4647606
You can't deny we almost always spend time with girls that clearly have a thing for us though which definitely raises their affection for us
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>>4647627
It is the condition of Whatis quests to be bound to waifus out of practicality.
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>>4647631
I don’t deny the results, I just disagree with saying it’s due to horniness, at least as a principal motivation.
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>>4647627
>As for Shirou, can’t speak for others but I didn’t want to play a third wheel. But I guess we could hang out more.
I also try to give Saber and Shirou the space they need to let their relationship blossom.
I would have been more considerate of Shiki....but we didn't really have a choice in the matter, so at the very least we can rival up with him when we get the chance. The only reason why I'm still hesitant is in consideration for his normal high school life and Akiha.
In addition, I'd really like to hang out with Avenger more when we get the chance.
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>>4647642
its also a Type Moon thing in general
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>>4647627
>I didn’t want to play a third wheel
It doesn't even have to be third wheel, i just want a partner in crime that doesn't feel like it would end with sexual tension developing
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>>4647654
Remember when we used to hangout with Waver?
I remember...
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>>4647654
Sexual tension is inevitable, the day of reckoning draws nearer.
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>>4647660
I voted to do Case Files, I liked being bros with him
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>>4647654
I just don't feel like there is any point to choose Shirou in those affection raising updates since affection chart shows his affection level as "irrelevant".
Feels like a waste to hang out with him when we can raise affection with some other ally instead.
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>>4647664
I'm glad we didn't and I understand why he isn't here...but damn I really do miss him.
Then again, maybe it's best he isn't here now.
He'd probably have a brain aneurysm with all the fuck shit we've been getting up to.
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>>4647668
It's not like we need to grind points though.
Most people we meet get up to at least 80 just through the course of normal story events.
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As mordred's advisor we can set down the economic take-over of britain. Economic conquest through our conglomerate and shell companies would then cement our hold on the entirety of the uk's economy and with that leverage we may be able to install mordred as king. Perhaps provide a story as to who they are like a fake persona for the normies if we wanted to, either way we should be able to placate the clocktower with some internal maneuvering. We shouldn't be the target of the church depending if Mordred is catholic instead of protestant. Once the pope acknowledges Mordered we're in the clear.
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>>4647668
The affection point chart shows Shirou as irrelevant because unless you are the world's worst person, you can basically get Shirou to do whatever you want.
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>>4647680
Yeah, you've explained why before.
The problem is that while we all might want to bro out with Shirou, it would be disadvantageous for us to do so when there are characters we could be raising affinity with instead.
Not saying we SHOULD have to raise affinity with him, or that I even have a solution to this particular problem, but it's something to think about I suppose.
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>>4647680
>>4647685
I thought that was implied honestly, its fucking Shirou lmao, we need to actually commit genocide to make an enemy out of him

>>4647668
And yet, we've chosen to spend our time more than once with people that already have a 90+ affection with us

>>4647670
yeah but i want him here
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I know we're all talking about how we need to get the boys back in town, but you know one girl we haven't talked to in a bit?
Giselle!
We really ought to catch up with her. She is our official maid, after all, she's sorta our responsibility.
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>>4647680
Yeah, but I want to hang out with Shirou. Maybe like talk about swords, or hang out on missions, or just fucking wander around the city with our bro.
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>>4647701
You are right. And we still need to figure out how to extend her and others' lifespans.
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>>4647704
Easy fix, throw money at Touko

>>4647702
I'm with you anon, its about time we stop going on dates and about time we hangout with our bros, just us, Shirou, Shiki and SHIKI
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>>4647701
On one hand I agree with you but on another hand we both know that the moment we hang out with her we will get one more woman after us.
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>>4647699
We should convert Waver's husbando from the Manakas, that will bring him here real fast.
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>>4647709
At the risk of sounding rude, I think Giselle knows better.
If we confront her head on with our girl troubles and treat her as a confidant from the very start, I think she could be really good for Shinji as the one girl that doesn't wanna jump his bone and doesn't instinctually hate him.
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>>4647785
I feel like Monica could've worked too because she told us really early on that acting the way we do would bite us in the ass
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>>4647807
Oh yeah, Monica gave us the big slap and told Shinji straight up to try to put the breaks on his charm. She's like family to us now and the faster we get her back the better.
That said, having more female friends that we don't have to worry about going crazy and raping us is important if you ask me.
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>>4647822
wait what? I don't remember that, I just remember her teasing us for trying to be a charmer all the time when we went to see Shiki at the hospital, when did that happen
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>>4647807
She's gonna slap us when she gets out of the ghost dimension and the harem is even bigger.
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>>4647822
I think the group will drift apart once the war is over and we find new things to do. The girls who will remain around are likely Monica and our servants, and now Mordred since we are helping her rule Britain. So the issue of having too many girls will solve itself eventually.
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>>4647834
Not sure Arc is going anywhere. Plenty of time and we interest her.
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>>4647826
>"You're gonna break a lot of hearts when you grow up if you act like that around too many girls though, Shinji-kun. Just don't be surprised if you end up facing the consequences of doing something like that."
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>>4647834
I don't think sacchin is going anywhere unless we cure her hell even if we cure her i think she might stick around.
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>>4647838
What does Arc even do when she isn't going after DAAs? We might interest her but are we interested in her if we don't have a super strong big bad we want to kill?
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>>4647834
EH, idk about that... Shirou is going to Syria and Rin is going to Clocktower, of course but people like Sakura, Sacchin and Arc are just gonna follow us around wherever we go until we die, we made SHIKI and Mordred our responsibility and we're likely to be dragged around by Mordred. Sure, we'll likely drift away or just not ALWAYS be around with certain people but the girls who are obsessively in love with us are staying

>>4647841
yeah she didn't slap us at all
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>>4647826
It was after she got stabbed by Strout and we kissed her to give her magical energy.
Looking back however, I misremembered the cause.
She slapped us partially because Shinji was sperging out about the then current state of the war, and she was slapping sense into us.
>You are stopped. Interrupted mid-rant by a stinging sensation on your cheek. Did... Monica just... slap you? It doesn't hurt, but the sudden audacity of the swift strike has left you completely speechless.
>The woman fixes you with a stern expression. "I want you to understand that that slap was simply to snap you out of your ranting before you could properly begin. It has nothing to do with how I feel about what you did to wake me up." The stern expression never falters, and even you can't tell if the woman is telling you the truth or not, much to your extreme displeasure.
-Part 11

>>4647834
>So the issue of having too many girls will solve itself eventually.
I highly doubt it.
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>>4647845
she's very clearly sticking around one way or another, not even sure we should cure her now or if she would want to, not getting cured guarantees we feed her forever

>>4647846
she's immortal, she does whatever and sticks around for people that interest her
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>>4647847
She absolutely did slap us when anons voted to kiss her while she was unconscious.
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>>4647847
She slapped us when shinji broke down after finding out that rizo was the one who stabbed monica.
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>>4647857
yeah but she didn't slap us because we kept getting girls to like us, we slapped her because we kissed her while she was unconscious
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>>4647847
>Shirou is going to Syria
What?
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>>4647862
Don't worry, the slap for the particular reason is coming
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>>4647865
Shirou goes to the middle east to kill terrorists
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>>4647875
That's a little unsporting, isn't it?
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>>4647887
he probably kills some vampires, Ciel gives him his shroud
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>>4647865
shirou will probably stay on britain sometimes if he accept mordred's offer.
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>>4647914
ok then no one leaves us then since we're all gonna end up going to London
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>>4647914
>>4647917
Speaking of, we should convince Mordred that she doesn't need to act like a King all the time and can relax and be more casual.
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>>4647928
probably a good idea, we should tell her that her dadmom failed because she kept trying to act like a sociopath that's above everyone else
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>>4647928
Yeah, she is quite dumb so she does need someone telling her that.
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Are we getting an update this evening or can I go to sleep.
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>>4648015
If there is an update it’s probably delayed. If there is none within say the next 2-3 hours, then safe to assume WhatIs is asleep
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>>4648032
Isn't Whatis Australian? I feel like someone mentioned that at some point.
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>>4648033
My Time Zone is an enigma to all.

>>4648015
>>4648032
Update is on the way, a combination of stuff I had to get out the way and just general writers block slowing me down.
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>>4648051
EST is my educated guess. Whenever I wake up in the morning around 7 or 8 am EST WhatIS starts to post, and when I turn in for the day around 11pm or towards midnight WhatIS usually stops for the day. I hope QM doesn't change his schedule because I have been able to read the updates frequently when I am awake and active. Also, have a random three Riders!
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Whoops, just realized that I gave Mordred the incorrect Magical Energy Parameter now she's alive. Fixed.
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"But first, we'll fetch Illya and return to the mansion. Then we can start to work on a plan. With everyone else with us, any attack we make on the Dead Apostle Ancestor is sure to be a success!" In truth though, your bravado in this case is mostly to hide your uncertainty. Rizo-Waal Strout and Altrouge are both exceptionally powerful opponents, you have no doubt about that, and while you might have a chance if they don't bring Primate Murder with them, if that damn dog is there, then the moment it unleashes it's full power, that'll be the end of your attack. While Lugh might be something of a match for a restricted Primate Murder, the cheerful boy won't be a match for the full power of a Beast. No, the only members of your faction who could possibly withstand such a thing would be Saber with the usage of Avalon, Arcueid through using as much of her power as she can get away with and SHIKI, who has achieved immortality on the level of an ultimate cheat skill. Though in truth, the only one who would actually be able to fight against the creature would be Arcueid herself, SHIKI and Saber would still have an insurmountable incompatibility disadvantage against the being that reigns supreme when it comes to killing humans.

"Good plan, advisor!" Mordred seems to agree, but you aren't really sure if it's because she actually thinks it's a good plan, or just because she feels like she has to listen to you. Well, it's better than the alternative of having to try to convince Mordred to do absolutely anything while she obstinately refuses to do things any way other than her own. You find yourself monumentally glad that you ended up accepting Mordred's offer to become her advisor. You don't know just whether or not Shirou will accept her offer to become one of her knights, but you feel like unless he manages to convince Saber to reconcile with her daughter, he'll kind of have his hands tied and simply be unable to accept. Mordred suddenly turns to leave the ruined store but after taking a few steps, she looks back at you. "Are you not coming with me?"

"Ah right. Sorry, I was just lost in my thoughts for a moment." You explain yourself to the king as you hurry after her, you had hoped to get a chance to talk to Sakura and Rin about just what is going on, but it looks like that's not on the cards. As you approach the stopped Mordred, you consider just how you're going to find Illya. "I think the best way to find Illya would be-" You don't get to finish your sentence uninterrupted as immediately upon reaching Mordred, the king simply picks you up and throws you over her shoulder. "-Hey! Mordred, what are you doing!?" You barely manage to squeak out before the King leaps out of the store with incredible speed.
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"What does it look like I'm doing? I'm taking you with me to go find Avenger and his Master!" Mordred remains unconcerned at your panicked voice as she leaps into the sky. "You're my advisor, so it makes sense if I bring you with me with you wherever I go, right?" You want to protest against Mordred's logic, but you realize that nothing you can say would actually really have any truth to it, Mordred is actually weirdly kind of right in this case, though 'keeping your advisors close' doesn't usually tend to mean 'grab your advisor tightly and take them literally wherever you go.' You can already tell that both Sakura and Arcueid are going to be somewhat displeased by Mordred's action here. "Besides, it's not like I'm going to drop you!" Mordred yells as she jumps from building to building while she tries to feel for the presence of a Servant. As she's no longer a Servant and is a living human being, her magical energy signature is nowhere near as obvious as that of a Servant, but it seems that she's still got the ability to feel the presence of other Servants. "I didn't drop you last time, and Father and Avenger were chasing me then! Would've got me too, if Strout hadn't intercepted them and cut Avenger's hand off with his surprise attack!" So that's how it happened?

"Could you ask next time please, Mordred?" You calm yourself. There's no use getting hysteric, you're Mordred's advisor now, so it's really all up to you to stop this future King from doing something too ridiculous. Of course, you don't really know if you can think of many things more ridiculous than the concept of conquering an entire country with the resurrected son(female) of King Arthur, so it might be a completely doomed endeavor. Maybe this is how Merlin felt when he set about making Saber the King of Britain?

Mordred remains silent as you soar through the skies of Misaki Town while slung over her shoulder. "Fine. But I want you to understand that you belong to me." Pardon? Where is this coming from? Not concerned by your lack of a response to her declaration, Mordred carries on. "I've decided that the role of being my advisor is one that you can't resign from, and it's for life... no wait, it continues even into death! That way if you ever die and get summoned as a Servant, you'll still be my advisor and nobody else will be able to make you their advisor!" Mordred says something completely unbelievable as she happily babbles away to herself, death evidently meaning very little to the girl who died and then came back to life now, and you find yourself stunned to silence. You may have made a massive mistake. Whatever happened to 'till death do we part?'!?
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You can't even bring yourself to say another word to the girl as you soar through the skies, lest you spur Mordred into making another completely ridiculous royal decree about the position of Royal Advisor. Eventually, Mordred stops racing around the rooftops of Misaki. For a moment you thought that it might've been as a result of running out of magical energy, but then you realize that since Mordred is alive, she'll be able to generate practically as much magical energy as she could ever need. Honestly, with her reserves of magical energy thanks to her Dragon Core, Mordred could probably sustain an entire grail war's worth of Servants all by herself.

"He's around here." The King is looking down at coffee shop, and it's almost a sure bet that Illya is inside with her maids and Avenger on stand-by. "But... there's another Servant lurking. I doubt I would've been able to notice before, but ever since Caliburn recognized me, my senses feel sharper than they've ever felt. You'll need greater Presence Concealment than this to hide from me!" Mordred states confidently.

"Then... Assassin?" Is Assassin stalking Illya and Avenger?! Damn it! While you have no doubt about Avenger's ability to crush any Assassin in direct combat, Illya represents the perfect target for an Assassin!

"If I had to guess, yeah. They haven't noticed us though, benefits of not being a Servant I guess, I can see through his Presence Concealment to a degree, but he can't even tell that there's more than one enemy around!" Mordred lets out a chuckle, she's clearly enjoying the benefit of being alive.

>"What the hell are we waiting for?! We need to hurry down there and warn them!"
>"Let's wait for our chance. If we wait for Assassin to reveal themselves, then we'll be able to ambush him!"
>"Why don't we give them a show? Go down there and challenge Avenger to a fight, that way Assassin will be far more likely to reveal themselves!"
>"Let's get closer, if Assassin can't recognize either of us as threats, then we'll be able to get close enough to completely ruin their assassination attempt!
>Write-in...
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>>4648170
Mordred is my new fav now. Hope she wins the seaweed bowl.


>"Let's get closer, if Assassin can't recognize either of us as threats, then we'll be able to get close enough to completely ruin their assassination attempt!
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>>4648170
>>"Why don't we give them a show? Go down there and challenge Avenger to a fight, that way Assassin will be far more likely to reveal themselves!"
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>>4648170
>"Why don't we give them a show? Go down there and challenge Avenger to a fight, that way Assassin will be far more likely to reveal themselves!"

This isn't just off the rails, it's multitrack transdimensional paradox drifting.
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>>4648170
>"Why don't we give them a show? Go down there and challenge Avenger to a fight, that way Assassin will be far more likely to reveal themselves!"
My British King Can't Possibly Be This Based!
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>>4648170
>"Why don't we give them a show? Go down there and challenge Avenger to a fight, that way Assassin will be far more likely to reveal themselves!"
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>>4648170
>>"Let's get closer, if Assassin can't recognize either of us as threats, then we'll be able to get close enough to completely ruin their assassination attempt!
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>>4648170
>"Why don't we give them a show? Go down there and challenge Avenger to a fight, that way Assassin will be far more likely to reveal themselves!"
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>>4648170
>"Why don't we give them a show? Go down there and challenge Avenger to a fight, that way Assassin will be far more likely to reveal themselves!"
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Am I missing something? Why is Illya still not in the mansion?
Shirou and his servants are autists so they decided to chase a suspicious guy instead of returning.
Rin was physically prevented from going back by Mordred.
Illya knows that there are DAA in town she knows that there are servants in town and she just sits in a coffee shop while it's night outside?
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>>4648170
>"Why don't we give them a show? Go down there and challenge Avenger to a fight, that way Assassin will be far more likely to reveal themselves!"
Mordred is goddamn adorable.
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>>4648170
>>"Let's get closer, if Assassin can't recognize either of us as threats, then we'll be able to get close enough to completely ruin their assassination attempt!
As much as I too would be interested in seeing Avenger fight, I’d rather we don’t fuck each other up because of misunderstanding.
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>>4648170
>>"Let's get closer, if Assassin can't recognize either of us as threats, then we'll be able to get close enough to completely ruin their assassination attempt!
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>>4648170
>>"Let's get closer, if Assassin can't recognize either of us as threats, then we'll be able to get close enough to completely ruin their assassination attempt!
I can't believe I forgot to fucking vote while writing my post.
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>>4648170
>"Why don't we give them a show? Go down there and challenge Avenger to a fight, that way Assassin will be far more likely to reveal themselves!"
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>>4648287
How is that at all out of character for Illya?
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>>4648532
What are you refering to?
Not giving a shit about her own safety? Can't say I noticed that before.
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>>4648287
ABENJA WA DARE NI MO MAKENAI. SEKAI DE ICHIBAN TSUYOI
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>>4648535
She has always placed her personal enjoyment over safety and very rarely does she acknowledge the danger presented by her opponents.
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>>4648170
>"Let's get closer, if Assassin can't recognize either of us as threats, then we'll be able to get close enough to completely ruin their assassination attempt!
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Why are you guys voting to walk up when assassin has likely been stalking our party for a long time?
Showing up casually is likely to get Assassin to leave rather than strike.
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>>4648550
Ruin the assassination attempt doesn't mean merely cowing them into leaving. My idea is get close enough to strike at them without waiting for them to attack to ambush them. Assassins usually hate direct open combat
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>>4648551
They also normally can't be detected and have great sensory abilities, 2 people they've likely seen before casually walking directly to them doesn't seem like an event that would raise alarms to them?
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>>4648550
Yeah, I don't think Assassin of all classes is going to be caught off guard by overreliance on spiritual senses.
Unless it's somehow another incorrectly classed servant like Shuten, they know who we are and what we look like.
Also, it's probably that police girl from that dead end from way back, where she was able to pick us out from a crowd.
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>>4648552
>casually walking directly to them
What? My idea was more "proceed closer via rooftop to get the literal drop on them"

>>4648553
So the "get closer" option is not what I think it is?
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>>4648554
Such a sneak attempt is likely to seem a casual walk to someone specializing in stealth.
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>>4648170
>"Why don't we give them a show? Go down there and challenge Avenger to a fight, that way Assassin will be far more likely to reveal themselves!"
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>>4648551
I think its a much better idea to stage a fight, as that will make us and Illya look like easy targets while the Herc and Mordred are preoccupied.
Assassins are pretty much forced to attack when they believe an enemy master is too distracted to defend themselves because that is effectively the only chance they have at any kind of success, and there is no guarantee another opportunity will present itself.
>>4648554
No, that option implies that we will attempt to move towards Illya while undetected and intervene when Assassin makes a move.
>>4648555
Eyes?
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>>4648558
My post got fucked up so I deleted it.
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Herc has Eye of the Mind False at B rank even as a berserker. Its basically a spidey sense for danger so he'd be aware of something such as an assassin if they actually got close enough.
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>>4648562
Why would assassin target Avenger instead of Ilya?
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>>4648558
>No, that option implies that we will attempt to move towards Illya while undetected and intervene when Assassin makes a move.
That's not what an option says. Besides attacking our own allies without any opportunity to explain the situation to them is retarded.

>>4648554
>So the "get closer" option is not what I think it is?
I understood it as get closer to Assassin and attack them once they make a move.

>>4648556
Mordred has agility B. I doubt It's going to be a casual walk.
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>>4648564
Its still threatening him. If they're sitting at a table together kind of proximity its going to be triggering his instincts regarding danger.

Also if his master dies so does he, unless he still has his archer class Independent Action as an Avenger in this war.
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>>4648558
>I think its a much better idea to stage a fight, as that will make us and Illya look like easy targets while the Herc and Mordred are preoccupied.
Why would Assassin attack in the middle of a fight instead of waiting until one of the fighters is injured or dead?
Even if they do attack Illya or Shinji in the middle of a fight would Avenger and Mordred who are going to be distracted by battle manage to stop Assassin's attack?
We are just leaving Illya even more exposed with this fake fight shit.
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>>4648170
>>"Let's get closer, if Assassin can't recognize either of us as threats, then we'll be able to get close enough to completely ruin their assassination attempt!
I think I deleted my vote by accident since I can't see it.
When you are gonna count votes make sure that there are no second vote with my ID.
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>>4648568
Why wouldn't assassin attack while the servants are supposedly distracted?
Waiting until the fight is over will earn the full attention of the remaining party, whereas picking off one of the masters ensures the other servant guard their own master rather than attack.
Mordred definitely should be able to switch tack quick enough, and we'll be waiting and watching the whole time too.
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>>4648558
The problem with staging a fight is that we have no ways of actually staging the fight. Mordred is going to announce intent to fight the guy she already cut off arm of and they are going to go at it.

Hell, we'll be lucky if Illya doesn't decide to burn a command spell in misguided attempt to save us from Mordred.

And regardless, Illya is not going to look like an easier mark, that's exactly what she's going to be.
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>>4648574
Actually sensible.

Where is Betty? Messenger familiar to Ilya to at least give some pre-emptive warning so that this doesn't turn into a real fight considering the last time Morud and herc met was in combat as enemies.
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>>4648573
>we'll be waiting and watching the whole time too.
And what are we going to do? We probably won't be able to see or feel them because of Presence concealment. And even if we would see them we are not fast enough to react to a servant. And we have no way to actually stop the Assassin once it attacks or did you forget how our last solo fight with an Assassin went?
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>>4648578
We got caught unawares, this time we know assassin is here.
We can just make a truth sphere to protect us while Herc and Mordred take care of the revealed Assassin.
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>>4648579
>We got caught unawares, this time we know assassin is here.
>We can just make a truth sphere to protect us
We don't know where they are exactly only that they are in the area.
And what if Assassin decides to attack Illya? Is she also going to make a spere for herself?

>>4648576
>Where is Betty?
She is asleep in the mansion.
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>>4648170

I'd like to add to my vote>>4648451
that if the plan to have Mordred challenge Avenger ends up winning, we should hurry to Illya's side so she doesn't consider us as hostage of Mordred and that we can communicate and, in a pinch, perhaps with aid of the shadow familiar, thwart the assassin if he decides to strike.
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>>4648584
>Shinji shows up with Mordred
>Mordred challenges Avenger to a duel
>Shinji casually walks up to Illya and they just chill
Damn what a plan.
Assassin is totally going to think that Mordred and Avenger are fighting for real while their master just stand next to each other.
That's not going to look super weird at all.
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>>4648587
Last assassin knew we were still at odds with mordred, she did kinap us.
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>>4648587
Mordred is not a Servant and we dont know what Assassin or their master know of her.
And we dont need to walk casually, we can make it seem were using momentarily distracted Mordred to get away from her, in that case it would make sense for her to focus on higher threat posed by avenger before collecting both us and Illya.

I'd still rather dispose with theatrics but barring that I'd rather assassin get away than use Illya as a bait and still fail.
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>>4648589
And would appear to an observer to be doing so again.
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>>4648589
>>4648592
>Last assassin knew we were still at odds with mordred, she did kinap us.
What? How would they know that? And how would that affect anything?
We are forcing Avenger away from Illya while there is an Assassin after her. Does that sentence not sound retarded to you?
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>>4648593
Yes.
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>>4648593
Assassin is in Misaki.
There's no reason for them to be in Misaki besides us.
They've most likely been stalking our group, since they're the largest faction in the war, and the outliers are too powerful for an assassin to take down on their own.

And like I said earlier, we can just make a truth bubble.
Do you think we can't make one large enough for two people if we stand next to Ilya? We'd look like even better bait to assassin, two masters with occupied servants right next to each other.
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>>4648170 #
>"Let's get closer, if Assassin can't recognize either of us as threats, then we'll be able to get close enough to completely ruin their assassination attempt!
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>>4648597
>if we stand next to Ilya?
We are not standing next to Illya though and we might not have the opportunity to get to her.
The Moment Avenger leaves her side Assassin attacks her and gets away before we can do anything.
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We are now tied unless >>4648467 confirms his vote.
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>>4648602
Why would he need to confirm his vote?
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>>4648603
One post ids usually aren't counted.
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>>4648604
He has 4 posts tho.
Did you mean this one? >>4648503
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>>4648607
I meant to link to>>4648503
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>>4648170
Let's get closer
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>Get closer
>>4648183
>>4648236
>>4648451
>>4648467
>>4648472
>>4648545
>>4648572
>>4648599

>Start a fight
>>4648227
>>4648209
>>4648188
>>4648237
>>4648279
>>4648381
>>4648503
>>4648557

Please tell me I missed a vote or miscounted and we aren't actually tied
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>>4648612
You missed me
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>>4648613
That's not fair, you posted while I was counting.
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>>4648230
I actually missed this vote too, so we're actually tied even after I thought we had un-tied.
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>>4648614
So is it called now?
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>"Let's get closer, if Assassin can't recognize either of us as threats, then we'll be able to get close enough to completely ruin their assassination attempt!

Bros, we promised Illya that we wouldn't lie to her. If you can convince me that this deception doesn't break her promise I'll change my vote.
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>>4648576
Hey Niggerman why don't you vote?
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>>4648612
Yo tie breaker>>4648617
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>>4648617
Don't change it dude we have a fucking tie without you.
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>>4648617
I’m more concerned about literally using her as a bait by drawing Avenger away from her than just merely pretending.
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can i change my vote or its too late?
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>>4648657
The update is almost done.
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"Let's get closer, if Assassin can't recognize either of us as threats, then we'll be able to get close enough to completely ruin their assassination attempt!" Assassin might be confident in their ability to maybe assassinate Illya when she's on the move, but it's more than likely that the cause of this stalking is that Assassin is quite fearful of just what will happen to them should they try to kill Illya when she's not only surrounded by her maids in the coffee shop, but also by the apparently very powerful Avenger. You say apparently because other than a glimpse at his basic parameters, you have no idea just what the Heroic Spirit of Vengeance is capable of. Of course, even still, with just his basic abilities alone he should be able to squash any Assassin in a direct confrontation unless it's a misclassed Assassin like Shuten, then he might find himself having a little more difficulty.

"Right. Then hold on, Advisor!" With her free hand, Mordred draws Clarent, and you can feel her aura as a king intensify just from looking at her, and not just her aura either, but the mere act of drawing the blade increases her physical abilities. Mordred as she is right now is equal to Heracles as a Berserker... well, when Heracles isn't utilizing Madness Enhancement, at least. You're fairly certain you remember that the stats you saw attributed to him were just his baseline stats without Illya activating the skill. Of course, even against a Berserker with Madness Enhancement, you have no doubt that Mordred as she is now would only have moderate difficulty in slaying him, between Caliburn Camlann, Mana Burst, and Clarent, she has absolutely every single tool she might need in order to take the Berserker out. Though of course, until you actually see how much damage Caliburn Camlann is capable of dealing first hand, it's all speculation. All you really know is that the sword is vastly superior to the Sword of Selection it originally was.

With her strength and speed increased, Mordred bounds from rooftop to rooftop with even greater speed, even using precision bursts of her magical energy through Mana Burst in order to travel across the rooftops with speed that even a Servant would have trouble following her. Not for the first time does it dawn on you that this girl is truly monstrously powerful. Eventually, you've found yourself laying on top of the roof of the coffee shop with Mordred, and you can see the entire street below you, and you're pretty sure that you're well hidden enough that Assassin shouldn't be able to see you unless they were actively looking for a target other than the one they were focused on. "Do you see anything, Mordred?" You ask the girl, with her Instinct skill, she's about one of the few Servants truly qualified for looking for Assassins, she can quite literally trust her instincts to bring her victory. Especially now that they too have been strengthened.
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"Not yet... But he's close... I can feel it!" Mordred keeps looking through the street for her target. It's practically empty aside from the odd businessman slightly late home. Nighttime just isn't safe on the streets of Misaki. "There!" Mordred suddenly declares as if she's seen something, and after grabbing you by your collar and leaping off the building the floor below, she savagely kicks a ginger cat with her full strength into a wall! The cat smashes into a brick wall, the force of the kick severing the body of the creature before the impact on the wall battered it to an unrecognizable shape.

"Mordred?! What the hell was that for?!" You're completely stunned by Mordred's sudden act of brutality against an innocent creature, yet Mordred simply remains silent as she points towards the cat, its body is rapidly coming together. Just as it finally becomes a cat once again, there's a flash of smoke around the creature, and it takes the form of a brown haired girl with pointy ears and a tail. Her clothing however is clearly Chinese in origin. You've read enough stories to recognize some of the designs. It's still really not the sort of appearance you were expecting Assassin to take, perhaps as a Shapechanger they think that people would subconciously hold back against a cute girl?

"Ow! What was that for?" The girl frowns at you and Mordred. "Can't I stalk my prey in peace? Unlike some people, I'm actually trying to win this grail war for my Master here!" The girl seems... surprisingly chipper for somebody who just very clearly died. She doesn't even seem to be that bothered about being caught out by Mordred, which is totally bizarre, seeing as this is Assassin, right?

"Not sure how you survived that kick, Assassin, but I can guarantee you that you won't survive my next attack." Mordred sounds unimpressed by the actions of the Assassin, and readies Clarent to slice the girl in half. It's... kind of strange, but for some reason, you don't seem to be able to read any of the parameters of the girl, or in fact, even tell if she really is Assassin! Some sort of Personal Skill or Noble Phantasm? Or could this be an additional effect of her ability to change her shape?!

>Try to guess who the Servant is. (Who?)
>Tell Mordred to fight defensively until Avenger and Illya can help.
>Tell Mordred to kill the girl. No holding back.
>Have Mordred test the abilities of the girl, try to lure her into attacking.
>Write-in...
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>>4648662
Tell Mordred to kill the girl. No holding back
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>>4648662
where is shirou with rule breaker when we need him.
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>>4648665
"Comforting" Saber.
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>>4648666
could a projected rule breaker survive for hours so we could have one if we asked?
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So any ideas about her identity?
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>>4648669
None, i'm quite bad at this servant shit only by descriptions, also could be a non official servant.
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>>4648662
>Tell Mordred to kill the girl. No holding back.
>>4648669
It's that cat.
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>>4648662
>Tell Mordred to kill the girl. No holding back.
She probably has multiple lives with her cat motif.
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>>4648672
What cat?
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Man, Is sakura going to become a mini grail because of a servant's essence being absorbed? I'm thinking we restrain this cat because this cat is in the same circumstances as the miko but perhaps her master is seeking to destroy the world?
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>>4648667
It wouldn't work. Noble Phantasms tend to be limited in usage to only their owner, but UBW is an exception to this for Shirou.
Also, he'd quickly have his magical energy reserves drained by keeping Rule Breaker active.
I've said it a few times already, but you can do the same process you use to strengthen Servant contracts in reverse to weaken and destroy them, it's just not as fast and clean as Rule Breaker.

>>4648670
If it was an official Servant, Shinji would've probably recognized them unless they are super recent.

>>4648673
>Cat motif
Her tail... isn't specifically a cat's tail.
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>>4648672
what cat
I really want to know who is this before deciding to send mordred for the kill
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>>4648662
>>Have Mordred test the abilities of the girl, try to lure her into attacking.
We shouldn't kill her because her energy will go to Illya or Sakura and their bodies might start deteriorating.
Let's try to make this servant reveal her abilities first. Maybe we can figure out her identity.
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>>4648666
>that post
>those trips
[concern levels rising]

>>4648662
Hinako Akuta? (apparently can blow herself up and reconstruct her body)
Jing Ke? (restraint and planning, would make it hard to detect her intent?)
Then again maybe the chinese part is a red herring

Not sure about voting for course of action until we figure out who it could be...

>>4648672
You mean Len? That seems unlikely, we would've recognized her.
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>>4648681
>>4648662
Support.
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>>4648682
Dude QM just said that she is not one of the official servants.
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>>4648662
Hey. It is that Assassin who killed us once.
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>>4648685
Is it really? I remember her being different somehow,
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>>4648684
Fair, I was typing before I saw that reply.
So then what do we have to go on?
>Mordred could sense her(?)
>cat of ginger colour as infiltration form - some sort of shapechange ability
>ability to reconstitute after getting crushed into paste
>brown hair, pointy ears and tail - some sort of supernatural origin?
>chinese clothes
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>>4648690
Eh all Chinese need to die, I stick with my vote.
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>>4648690
>>Mordred could sense her(?)
Wasn't that just Mordred's instinct at work?
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>>4648678
What kind of tail is it then?
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>>4648693
If she dies her soul goes into Illya or Sakura though. We probably shouldn't kill her until we are back in Fuyuki.
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>>4648696
It's not really any sort of distinct tail.
It's kind of long and has the same hair coloration as her actual hair.
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>>4648689
We never saw her apperance apart from having a tail and police officer impersonation. And could not get any reading on her.
With Assassin having chinese clothes and seemingly being martial orientated I think Miyako was an enemy Master back then.

No idea how to vote. Try to tell her it is rude to kill friends of her master family?
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>>4648681
Support.
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>>4648700
>inb4 its a tanuki
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Calling in thirty minutes.
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>>4648702
>Miyako
Why would she ask us to train her only to order Assassin to kill us?
I don't think that's the case.
>No idea how to vote.
Just vote for something man. You can change it later.
>>4648700
How much time do we have to figure it out?
Before you call the vote I mean.
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>>4648662
>Have Mordred test the abilities of the girl, try to lure her into attacking.
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>>4648708
Now I look stupid.
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>>4648704
It's probably not even an animal spirit, but a shadow one.
Just a thought since What keeps reiterating that the tail doesn't belong to a particular animal.
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>>4648662
>>Have Mordred test the abilities of the girl, try to lure her into attacking.
I give up. We need more information to make a guess.
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>>4648662
>Have Mordred test the abilities of the girl, try to lure her into attacking.
Guess this will do.
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>>4648662
>>Have Mordred test the abilities of the girl, try to lure her into attacking.
>ask what she wants to do with illya
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>>4648662
>>Tell Mordred to fight defensively
mostly to not give the assassin an opening if we don't know her capabilities.
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>>4648662
Please tell me you didn't make Sun Wukong into a Assassin...
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>>4648755
It would fit the theme of absurdly powerful misclassed assassins at least.
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>>4648759
Yes it would fit the theme but....isn’t wukong normally associated with monkeys? So why would wukong be a cat (unless of course we argue that this isn’t wukong but one of his familiars)....then again this is FATE. Fucking anything is at least somewhat possible.
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>>4648761
Yeah, but when you can transform into virtually anything, then why would you pick something that immediately gives away your identity?
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>>4648764
True, true.
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>>4648662
>Try to guess who the Servant is.
Sun Wukong? Chinese shapeshifter with a remarkable tail, and someone we SHOULD be able to recognize.
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>>4648761
I really don't think its Wu.
He wouldn't have any patience for being an assassin, and would brute force everything even harder than Shuten does.
I still don't think her identity is tied to a specific animal.
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"Mordred... try to lure her into revealing her abilities, I feel like I'll be able to quickly figure out just who this girl is if you can do that." You whisper to the king, who has her sword pointed in the direction of the clearly inhuman girl.

"Come then, Assassin. Come and face your death!" Mordred has moved in between the coffee shop and the enemy, hopefully Avenger doesn't get the wrong idea and attack Mordred instead of the actual enemy here. Though with you standing at Mordred's side, you think that it will be unlikely he'll go for the wrong person.

The Servant laughs for a moment. "Look, Saber, I don't know what trick you've used to erase your presence as a Servant, but your little surprise attack has already failed. You won't be killing me again." The Servant smirks cheekily at the King, apparently unconcerned by the fact that she really did die from Mordred's first attack. Then... a self-resurrection ability?! Damn it! This Servant has to be one of the highest strength to have something like that available to them!

The Assassin seems to try to taunt Mordred into action herself, and though the once Knight of Betrayal grits her teeth in anger, she doesn't act on her rage like she might've done before being granted kingship by Caliburn. You feel like congratulating her for not allowing her rage to control her, but you might have to do that later on. Instead she comes back with her own taunt once again "If you're so confident, come on then, Assassin! Or are you too much of a coward to fight me fairly?"

The enemy seems to react to being called a coward, their friendly persona dropping instantly, and finally, they take action. They flick the top of their ear and an instant later, a long staff is in their hands. "I really didn't want to show my Noble Phantasm off like this, but I guess there's no problem with you figuring out just who I am if I'm going to kill you, is there?" There's only one name that comes to mind now as you look at the staff in the hands of the tailed girl, and at the moment, you realize not only her True Name from that Noble Phantasm, but that she's not an Assassin at all! But... a Lancer with the ability to copy Presence Concealment!?

Status Updated!

Lancer, makes her move... or well, in this case she doesn't actually move an inch. She simply swipes the Noble Phantasm in the air, an action which should be sure to miss, had the staff not extended to be over a dozen meters long. You almost get snapped in two by the attack and you certainly would've been had Mordred not grabbed you and leapt into the air.
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When Mordred lands on the floor again, she smiles, a savage expression on her face. "Why all the deceit, Lancer? I can tell that you're more than strong enough that you shouldn't need to rely on lying to everyone." Mordred can already tell from just the first attack that this opponent is a top-class Servant, a Divine Spirit that chose to be summoned as a Heroic Spirit in order to fight in a grail war.

"Call it a wish of my master. She'd rather I not reveal my identity. Says that if people knew who I was, they'd all gang up on me." Sun Wukong smirks. "So I've been pretending to be Assassin for most of the time for entertainment. Course, if I'd had known that everyone was just gonna group up anyway, I don't think I would've bothered trying to hide my identity at all!" Lancer laughs. "I mean, look at you, Saber! You've already been lured onto that one huge faction! I really have no idea what my Master sees in that seaweed headed punk." Wukong gestures towards you, and you flinch backwards, not expecting to be referred to directly by the Lancer.

Mordred frowns. "I wouldn't recommend insulting my advisor again." Her voice is low and threatening.

"What are you gonna do about it? Somebody like you could never catch me, Saber!" Lancer laughs at the king, who glowers in rage. Lancer is somewhat right, with their apparent speed advantage, and the extending ability of their Noble Phantasm, Mordred really can't close the gap without putting you at risk. Though Wukong is clearly hesitant to actually attempt a proper assault. She might have the ranged advantage and incredible parameters, but even this monkey girl knows better than to enter into close combat with somebody like Mordred, and she seems to be acting even more warily of the King now, Mordred doesn't exactly give off the aura of a Servant anymore.

>"Lancer, does your Master approve of you doing this?"
>"Mordred, close the distance and wipe her out."
>"Mordred, keep her busy, I'm going to see what the hell Avenger is up to!"
>"Mordred, follow me into the store, Avenger helping us will allow us to cancel out Lancer's range advantage!"
>Write-in...


>>4648755
You were half right. It was a ruse.
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>>4648779
>>"Lancer, does your Master approve of you doing this?"
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>>4648779
>"Lancer, does your Master approve of you doing this?"

Welp, fighting her is a terrible idea considering how much she is supposed to be overpowered.
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>>4648779
>"Lancer, does your Master approve of you doing this?"
>also the grail is a scam btw
>>4648787
indeed, quite annoying immortality, depending of the QM it may be very annoying immortality.
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>>4648779
>"Lancer, does your Master approve of you doing this?"
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>>4648779
>"Lancer, does your Master approve of you doing this?"
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Calling in 30 minutes
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>>4648779
>>"Lancer, does your Master approve of you doing this?"
Leaving Mordred's side now is probably ill advised, and moving towards Illya might go either way. Although presumably she'll be wanting to check out the commotion now anyway...
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>>4648779
>>"Lancer, does your Master approve of you doing this?"
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>>4648812
Also, warn Mordred not to underestimate the monkey king, and not to let anything they say under her skin.
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>>4648779
>>"Lancer, does your Master approve of you doing this?"
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Also who could her master be? That girl that approached us about martial arts?
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>>4648831
>I really have no idea what my Master sees in that seaweed headed punk.
Probably.
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>>4648831
What thread was that in again?
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Woah! SonSon is Second Lancer! That's crazy!
Also, is this best girl's servant? Is my beloved fatty tuna finally making her reappearance into the story?
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Who's the Vegeta to Monkey King?
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>>4648872
Pigsy?
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>>4648872
Do you even have to ask?
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>>4648882
LOL funny chinks
Since he travels around on fiery wheels, he’s also a favorite among taxi drivers
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>>4648882
Ah, shows how much I know.
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>>4648860
This one:
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive/4419628/

Around the middle, just before a dead end.
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>>4648886
I mean, Second Lancer's design differs slightly from Sonson, but It's actually something of a hilariously unintended coincidence that a Fighting Game Character ended up summoning a Fighting Game Character
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>>4648893
Yah, you have no idea how fucking pogged I am about this setup, even if it's ultimately a really minor thing.
Also, shout out to ANOTHER future student of Lord Makiri.
The Modern Merlin meme never ends!
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>>4648909
Right now I'm waiting for Merlin and Shinji drinking in a bar, complaining all night long.
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>>4648913
" Merlin, asking for a friend, how did you give her a dick?"
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>>4648917
>Shinji's face when he decides to resolve his woman problems by giving half of the women in his life a dick
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>>4648925
>tfw forgot the actual face
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>>4648917
"Merlin please, I need to learn the secrets of futa lovin."
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>Also Shinji, when the plan inevitably backfires
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>>4648925
This would only serve to greatly amplify his problems.
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>>4648917
we do know why tho.
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>>4648925
Ok...how many of them do you think we'd actually be able to pair off if we tired?
Rin and Sakura?
Arc and Satsuki?
Monica and Touko?
I think we could make it work.

>>4648930
That seems like the opposite of what we're talking about here, my guy...
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>>4648935
Well, I asked how not why.
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>>4648936
>Rin and Sakura?
but they are actual sisters

>inb4 "where do you think you are", or "yes, and...?"

I think I may have made a mistake...
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>>4648936
>That seems like the opposite of what we're talking about here, my guy...
You think that Merlin is the only spellcaster capable of that sort of magic? Don't be a fool.
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>>4648930
>>4648936
Oh, wait....no nevermind.
Bitches be devious.
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>>4648939
we also know why.
>>4648944
I think cu's teacher implies she can do the same in fgo if i remember correctly.
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>>4648952
Are you illiterate?
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"Lancer... does your Master approve of you doing this?" You decide that negotiating with Lancer might be your best chance at securing victory. You highly doubt that the staff is Wukong's only Noble Phantasm, and you already have an idea about her second Noble Phantasm based on just how she regenerated from clearly dying. You're up against an opponent who in life attained immortality many times now.

"W-what does that have to do with anything? I'm helping her win the war, and if she doesn't realize that, then it's her problem, not mine!" Lancer frowns for the first time as you question her loyalty to her master. Seems that hit something of a nerve. Sun Wukong might be a total powerhouse, but they don't really seem to be that great when it comes to a war of words.

"Really? Cause it seems like you're just going off on your own and doing whatever you want. That's hardly how a Servant should be acting, is it? You don't care about your Master at all, you're just entertaining yourself!" You cross your arms as you judge the Servant harshly. If she actually cared about her Master, she'd be with them, instead of going out to play Assassin at night. This is a dangerous town, and with all the Servants roaming around as well as all the Dead Apostles that seem to be drawn to this place, it's probably even more dangerous than Fuyuki itself.

"I am not! I am doing something very serious!" Lancer's response is really way more childish than you were expecting. "I wouldn't expect an idiot like you to understand!" Lancer doesn't seem to be that much of a threat now that she's throwing a tantrum, but you know better than to let your guard down around a Servant like her. Mordred might be far more powerful now, but against somebody like Sun Wukong, the strength she's received as the King of Britain may not be enough.

"Really? This is the best argument that the 'Great Sage equal to the Heavens' can give me? Are you even the true Sun Wukong?" You're sticking close to Mordred just in case Wukong tries to attack you again. You won't be able to get out of the way if they turn that damn staff into a massive destructive column without Mordred's help.

That seems to finally get Wukong mad enough to ignore the threat posed to them by entering into close-range combat with the physically stronger Servant, and they quickly dash forwards, targeting you alone. You are barely pushed out of the way in time by Mordred, as their charge was simply a distraction in order to extend their weapon outwards and aimed at your throat. Mordred, finally seeing her opportunity to strike back, slams the edge of Clarent into the staff as hard as she can, and the resulting impact smashes the stick to the floor, tripping Wukong and catching her entirely off guard for Mordred's follow up attack. Wukong looks up just in time to see Mordred's magically propelled fist about to collide with her face at max speed.
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The small body of the Monkey King is sent flying as a result of the punch, and the body of the girl skids across the asphalt, taking chunks out of it as she bashes against the floor. There was far more power in that attack than what Mordred used to turn Lancer's cat form into a chunky paste, but there's not nearly as much damage dealt to Lancer here, and the girl quickly gets up despite taking such a terrible blow. Mordred looks at her fist, apparently even she's impressed with her power now she's alive again. She's more powerful now than she's ever been, even in life... well, she is alive now, you suppose. "I already warned you about my advisor..." Mordred gets over the realization of just how much power she is in command of relatively quickly. Did she not already realize how strong she was when she clashed with Arturia? Perhaps not, she did seem to be holding back there.

Lancer quickly hops back to her feet, though there's a large nasty looking wound on her face as a result of the attack, blood gushing out into her right eye. "Wow! You're stronger than I thought you were!" Wukong seems completely unbothered by the damage she's taken. "I might actually have to take you seriously after all, Saber!"

"If you don't, you'll end dead, Lancer." Mordred readies herself to defend against Lancer's next attack in order to launch a counter-attack. The battle returns to a standstill, as neither of the mighty warriors want to make the first move against the other. Mordred showing herself to have a nearly impregnable defense, yet being unable to go on the offensive without leaving you completely open to being killed by one of Lancer's attacks. It's at least nice to see that as a king she already values the lives of her subjects to this degree, and she's not just going to rush off into battle without thinking things over first.

The two of them continue to eye each other, trying to find holes in the attack and defense of the other, yet none can really afford to attack. Even her Noble Phantasm won't allow Lancer to defeat Mordred, as no amount of size changing will help her when Mordred already showed herself capable of blocking the weapon. You recall that the weight of Lancer's weapon is always at a set level, and the density of it merely shifts in relation to the size. Lancer's weapon is actually at it's most powerful when it is smaller, as a result.
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As the two continue their stand-off, you begin to wonder if anything is actually going to happen, you continue wondering this all the way up until the glass window of the coffee shop shatters, and in almost slow motion, you can see as the arrow smashes through. Has Avenger finally decided to take action? But against who?! The arrow doesn't seem to be targeting anybody in particular, so why would Avenger fire it!? What could he have seen? Then it dawns on you. Avenger was looking for Lancer's Master this entire time!

>Dive in the path of the arrow, try to block it with an arm. You'll heal!
>Try to dive in the path of the arrow and create a shield of truth to block it!
>Warn Lancer about the arrow!
>Just let it go. There's nothing you can do.
>Write-in...
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>>4648977

Use the Truth to turn the arrow into non-lethal ordnance.

Not necessarily painless ordnance.

(can we do that?)
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>>4648977
>>Try to dive in the path of the arrow and create a shield of truth to block it!
If Avenger fired it, it'd probably pierce right through us. An unarrowable shield is probably the best bet.
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>>4648977
>Warn Lancer, its a good offer of non aggression to extend the conversation.

I sincerely hope no one is retarded enough to even attempt to intercept a hydra poison tipped arrow
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>>4648983
Not unless you can touch it for ten seconds.
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>>4648977
>Warn Lancer about the arrow!
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>>4648990
Do you seriously expect Wukong to listen to us after we got her mad? I mean, Wukong wouldn't listen to us anyways, she's notoriously hard headed, but even more so.
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>>4648991
Fair enough.

switching >>4648983
to support >>4648989


We'll have to apologise to Heracles afterward for getting in the way all the time.
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>>4648991
Couldn't we achieve a similar effect with the faster Manifestation of Truth ability by applying the concept of non-lethality to it?
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>>4648977
>Warn Lancer about the arrow!
She's fast enough to dodge
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>>4648977
>Try to dive in the path of the arrow and create a shield of truth to block it!
We should do that while flipping Avenger the middle finger.
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>>4648995
Then its on wukong if she gets her master killed when we tried to help.

May have a sage tonic or something to heal her, may be forced to join Shinji. who knows. But a hydra poison arrow is a dead end if it even touches you.
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>>4648977
Create a shield of truth
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>>4649003
If her master is Capgirl, I'd rather not have her dead at all.

>But a hydra poison arrow is a dead end if it even touches you.
This is why we use the truth shield.
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>>4648997
That would directly conflict with the already existing concepts on the arrow.

Also you can't actually catch the arrow.
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>>4649005
Monke is fast, if wukong takes the arrow to save the master they won't die immediately so we can heal as a way to recruit. Trying to put up a shield risks poison or wukong takes the chance and kills you because distracted.
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>>4649010
You're relying on Wukong believing you after you got her worked up and we've killed her already. Again, she is notoriously hard headed in her legend and can only be reined in with the circlet.

>Trying to put up a shield risks poison
Not really. I'm sure we can get a shield out before we're in the path.

>wukong takes the chance and kills you because distracted.
Mordred wouldn't allow that and with Clarent boost and mana burst, I trust her to be fast enough to intercept.
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>>4649011
Wilfully obstructing a projectile from avenger against a divine enemy without communicating with him will make him quite upset with us though.

Don't want to compromise the relationship with him because we still need him to keep Gil manageable.
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>>4649015
I mean, telling the enemy about the sneak attack will probably do the same. While I don't want to lose Avenger Points, I am willing to because of Capgirl.
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>>4649015
I'm afraid there's no way around this now except to let Miyako die, because even if we got monkey to intercept we'll still be thwarting his attack.

I guess we'll have to rely on making it up to him afterwards.
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>>4648977
Just let it go. There's nothing you can do.
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30 minutes.
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>>4649015
We are almost certain that the person it's about to hit is Miyako, so fuck Avenger's feelings.
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>>4648977
>Try to dive in the path of the arrow and create a shield of truth to block it!
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>>4648977
>>4649000
Changing to...
>Try to dive in the path of the arrow and create a shield of truth to block it!
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>>4648977
>Try to dive in the path of the arrow and create a shield of truth to block it!
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>>4648977
>Warn Lancer about the arrow!

Also I am >>4648917, finally back home with stable IP
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>>4648977
>Warn Lancer about the arrow!
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>>4649022
I think this is current count. Let me know if I missed anything.

Shield
>>4648989
>>4648996
>>4649001
>>4649004
>>4649025
>>4649027
>>4649041

warn -
>>4649105
>>4649063
>>4648992
>>4648990
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>>4649114
I am pretty sure it was called an hour ago an shield won.
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>>4649150
At Manakas' house presumably.
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>>4649150
No because that's Jeanne Alter.
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>>4649169
Saberface strikes again
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>>4649169
It's depressing that the only way to differentiate nu-TM designs is by bust size.
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>>4649183
Blame Takeuchi, Sakura is supposed to be shapely
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Damn it! You're not actually trying to get Lancer's Master killed! Maybe Avenger didn't hear it, but Lancer's Master is very much opposed to her actions! You've got no choice, you don't know if Wukong will be able to block it while she's in a stand-off with Mordred without leaving herself wide open, so there's only one thing to do!

You leap in front of the trajectory of the arrow, hoping that your reaction speeds and reinforced body are enough to reach it in time, and you find yourself just about fast enough to fully put yourself in the path of the arrow! Mordred turns just at the right moment to see you about to get impaled with the arrow, and her eyes widen in horror.

In the very last moment that you can, you bring forth a small shield of truth energy from your hands, just enough to block the dangerous looking black arrow entirely, though despite blocking the arrow perfectly with the small square of truth you managed to manifest from your hand in time, you don't actually do anything about the force of the arrow speeding towards you! It slams into the small shield and immediately pushes you backwards, and then off your feet entirely! Just... how much force did Avenger put into this arrow shot? Had you attempted to take this with just your body alone, you wouldn't have just lost an arm... your body would've been pulverized completely!

It's actually pretty incredible, to be carried along through solely the force of a single projectile, but you can't just allow yourself to be carried off like this, and with great exertion and through reinforcement of your muscles, you tilt the shield of truth to the side in order to change the course of the arrow, causing the black arrow to slide off the shield and sink deep into the concrete floor, almost as if it melts the stone on contact like a supernaturally strong acid.

This observation however, doesn't help you much, as without the extremely powerful arrow propelling you through the air, you become subject to the laws of gravity, and smash against the floor at high speeds. The damage is really quite catastrophic, and though you avoid fatal damage, one of your legs is broken, and the other torn off from the force of the impact. Far as anyone would know, they'd just say you were a participant of a high speed car crash, and you weren't wearing your seat-belt.

The pain is bad, but not absolutely unbearable. You can still... heal from this.

"Shinji?!" Mordred quickly races towards you, forgetting to use the title she seems fond of using for you, and picks up your battered and broken body. "But... why?" She questions your motive behind getting in the way of Avenger's attack.
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"Lancer's Master... she was being targeted. I couldn't just let somebody who didn't want this fight to happen in the first place get caught up in things, can I?" You sigh, at least your actions seem to have put something of a halt to the hostilities, and you can see the hesitating face of Sun Wukong still standing exactly where they were before your frankly almost suicidal attempt to save Lancer's Master.

"You... you idiot!" Mordred yells at you angrily as she examines your wounds. Mordred isn't a doctor, of course, but her time spent on battlefields has given her something of an aptitude for examining wounds, and she's clearly checking you to see if your wounds are fatal.

"Hey... it's not a problem, these wounds... I'll heal them in no time!" You cough from the pain you're trying to ignore. Having one leg severed, one leg broken, and one arm broken really isn't a pleasant experience. "It's one of my magical abilities." Shrugging when you only have one functioning arm is unsurprisingly difficult, but you feel like you successfully accomplish a gesture close enough to it.

Your words seem to give Mordred pause for a moment, and it takes her a while to think of just how to respond to your apparent ability "Good. Hurry up and heal so I won't feel bad about kicking your ass! Why wouldn't you tell me you could do something like that before getting yourself torn to shreds?!" Mordred is clearly quite displeased about your lack of transparency about your abilities, but really, it's not like it had much of a chance to come up! At least your wounds are no longer bleeding. Now you just have to wait for the hour it takes to naturally regenerate your own leg. Your healing magecraft annoyingly only really works best on other people, for some reason you just find it naturally more difficult to apply the same damage reversing effects to your own body, it's a problem that has seemingly increased as your Reality Marble has developed.

"Lancer! What's going on here, and why is... Oh no..." A girl wearing a cap shows up running down the street, clearly out of breath. "Lancer?! What did you do! I told you not to get into any meaningless fights, and I told you not to hurt anybody badly... especially not him!" The girl wearing the cap points to you. "You've completely ruined his future as a fighter! How could you do something like that?! He was going to be the world's greatest fighter, and show everyone just how great bajiquan really is!" The cap wearing girl pulls off her hat and throws it to the floor as she moves closer to her Servant, who has still yet to move. "Lancer? Are you even listening to me? Didn't I tell you not to use your Noble Phantasm?" Wait a minute, Miyako?! Lancer's Master was Miyako?!
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"Sorry but... I wasn't the one who hurt him." Is all Lancer says, as the true weight of her failure comes crushing down on her. To have to be saved by an enemy must bring great shame to her, especially because she was too engrossed in a fight to protect her vulnerable Master. "The reason he got himself wounded was because he... he blocked an arrow meant for you." Lancer doesn't say anything else, the girl evidently reflecting on her actions that led to this shameful mark on her carreer as a warrior,

"H-he did? Then... I'll... I need to talk to him, don't I? Why did he save me?" Miyako goes to walk over to you, but is stopped as Mordred points her blade at the girl. "Out of respect for what my advisor did to save your life, I won't cut you down, but I won't permit your presence here, Master of Lancer." Mordred turns towards Lancer. "Take your Master and piss off." Lancer doesn't need any more coercing than that, and swiftly grabs Miyako before racing off. Despite Miyako's protests and struggles. You'd like for the two to stay, honestly, but right now, Mordred is way too angry for that to even be a possibility. Best to let them leave for now. You smirk, after all, you do have Miyako's number still, actually getting in touch with the girl and setting up a meeting ought to be incredibly simple.

Illya, her maids, and Avenger finally leave the coffee shop just in time to see Lancer flee with her Master, and Illya is quickly at your side upon seeing your dreadful condition. "Avenger? Why did you shoot at Shinji!? Is this how you repay somebody for breaking you out of magical imprisonment?!" Illya demands her Servant explain things, and the tattooed boy sighs.

"I didn't shoot at Shinji, for some reason, he decided he wanted to get in the way of my attack. Honestly, I'm surprised he's still alive after taking that directly, never mind still conscious. That arrow was powerful enough that a single touch would've ended up killing even me!" Then... why were you shooting it at a Master? Avenger seems to read your mind as he continues. "I was hoping that either it would hit the intended target and get rid of the Servant who was following us through their master, or that the enemy Servant would try to block it, and die as a result." There's a tinge of respect in Avenger's voice as he speaks about your ability to block his arrow on such short notice. Had you had the time to do so, you would've been able to put up a complete barrier, but as it was you didn't have nearly enough time. Avenger doesn't even sound that bothered about his attack having been intercepted, he seems more impressed that you managed it in the first place. Then, Avenger's attention turns towards the now king Mordred.
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"You're not a Servant." He states as he looks at the girl who must be the same helmeted Saber he chased the other night, but at the same time, can't possibly be that Saber, his mind is really quite sharp, he figured something out that Lancer didn't seem to notice in just a glance. "Why are you with Shinji...?" Avenger hesitates, not knowing the name of the new arrival.

"Mordred... King Mordred Pendragon." Mordred introduces herself with both the second name she finally feels worthy to carry, as well as her royal title.

"King... Mordred... Pendragon...?" Illya echoes the words of Mordred, and you can tell that she's obviously confused by this absolutely oddity in regards to Arthurian Myth.

>Explain things to Illya and Avenger now, you've got some time before your leg heals anyway, and you feel like letting Arcueid and Sakura see you like this might do more harm than good.
>Explain things to Illya and Avenger on the way back to the clothing store. You should still be good for an attack on the vampires tonight, when your leg heals up.
>Give Sakura a phone call and tell her to meet you back at the Tohno Mansion with Arcueid and Rin, then explain just who Mordred is to the new arrivals on the trip back to the mansion.
>Let Mordred explain who she is, you're an advisor, not an introducer.
>Write-in...
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>>4649388
>>Give Sakura a phone call and tell her to meet you back at the Tohno Mansion with Arcueid and Rin, then explain just who Mordred is to the new arrivals on the trip back to the mansion.
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>>4649388
Give Sakura a phone call and tell her to meet you back at the Tohno Mansion with Arcueid and Rin, then explain just who Mordred is to the new arrivals on the trip back to the mansion
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>>4649388
Give Sakura a phone call
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>>4649395
Also give Moedred your character sheet with affection points. She's needs to know our abilities.
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>>4649388
>Give Sakura a phone call and tell her to meet you back at the Tohno Mansion with Arcueid and Rin, then explain just who Mordred is to the new arrivals on the trip back to the mansion.
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>>4649388
>Give Sakura a phone call and tell her to meet you back at the Tohno Mansion with Arcueid and Rin, then let Mordred explain who she is, you're an advisor, not an introducer.

She should properly introduce herself.
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>>4649440
Support
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>>4649388
>Give Sakura a phone call and tell her to meet you back at the Tohno Mansion with Arcueid and Rin, then explain just who Mordred is to the new arrivals on the trip back to the mansion.

Casual dismemberment, all in fun really.
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>>4649388
>>Give Sakura a phone call and tell her to meet you back at the Tohno Mansion with Arcueid and Rin, then explain just who Mordred is to the new arrivals on the trip back to the mansion.
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>>4649388
>Let Mordred explain who she is, you're an advisor, not an introducer.
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>>4649388
>Give Sakura a phone call and tell her to meet you back at the Tohno Mansion with Arcueid and Rin, then explain just who Mordred is to the new arrivals on the trip back to the mansion.
>oh god the pain
Also Mordred a cutie.
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>>4649561
I am working on it, but I am tremendously tired and need to sleep.
So no more updates tonight, it's looking like.
Have this female version of Rin's dad as compensation for my sleepiness.
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>>4649580
Now that is cursed. Unless you have a pic of Femtomine stabbing her.
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>>4649580
Sleep well
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>>4649388
>Give Sakura a phone call and tell her to meet you back at the Tohno Mansion with Arcueid and Rin, then explain just who Mordred is to the new arrivals on the trip back to the mansion.
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>>4649582
My collection of Femtomine's are of the unfortunate 'non-Tokiomi stabbing' variety.
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>>4649590
>FemKirei
Ha, imagine if our Charisma worked in that situation.
Now that would have been a true horror.
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Morning frens!
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>>4649979
mornin
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"Hold on, I'll explain everything in a second. Let me call Sakura first." You ignore the pain of your missing leg and broken limbs as you fetch your phone out of your pocket. It miraculously managed to survive your skidding across the floor at high speed, and you start to feel like the damn thing might be more durable than you are!

"Alright, but don't take too long. I want to know just what sort of nonsense you've been getting up to without me around. I hope you aren't going to make a habit of jumping into attacks like that." Illya scolds you lightly for getting in the way of Avenger's attack. It's pretty clear that everyone wants to chastise you for doing something so stupid, but are too concerned by your current injuries to do so.

"Fine, just gimme a sec." You dial Sakura, and the girl quickly picks up her mobile, and you immediately begin talking when you hear her pick up. "Hey, Sakura. Could you get to the mansion with Arcueid and Rin? I'll be back shortly myself." You keep things short, there's no point of getting too involved in a phonecall with a girl you'll be able to talk to face to face in about twenty minutes anyway.

"Alright, Onii-chan. I'll see you then." Judging from your tone, Sakura correctly decides that you're in quite a serious mood right now... yeah, the missing leg will do that. At least the bleeding has stopped, now your body just needs to regenerate the actual missing limb. Your broken bones have already mostly gone back to the correct positions, at least, though the bones themselves are still too damaged to actually use the limbs.

Mordred picks you up in a princess carry as she dismisses her armor, which dissolves into red energy. Good to see that she can still do that, though your current situation is a little embarrassing, you decide it would be best to explain what's happened to Second Saber to Illya, and why she's now an ally. "Well, the thing is... I was sort of responsible for giving Mordred Caliburn, which in turn accepted her as the King of Britain and brought her back to life, using her spiritual core as a Servant as her base. She's both a human and of a level far greater than a human of this era could ever hope to reach... She's also the rightful King of Britain, and after the grail war is done with, intends to... claim her birthright."
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"Really? You're going to conquer England?" Illya asks Mordred, who simply nods sternly in the direction of the homunculus, who is picked up and placed on one of Avengers shoulders by the Servant. She starts laughing uncontrollably when she realizes that it's not a joke, and that Mordred really does intend to take over an entire country. It's not a mocking laugh, but a genuine one. While it might be difficult to take over an entire country, somebody like Mordred would definitely be able to do so. "You know... that does sound interesting! I would really love to live to see the Clocktower get taken down a peg like that!" Illya seems to approve of Mordred's decision to conquer an entire country. Maybe she could help? You know that you're not going to have a choice when it comes to helping Mordred now that you've agreed to be her advisor, but you know that actually managing to defeat an entire country, as well as one of the most magus dense places on the planet, isn't going to be easy. If Illya could get the Einzbern to produce an army of homunculus for you, then you'd be in a much better position. Of course, if you do get to that point, you're going to see about upgrading the creation process for the Einzbern homunculi, so they both don't suffer from horribly limited lifespans, and so their brain development isn't sacrificed in order to maximize combat capability.

"That's right!" Mordred smiles at the girl, and though she's clearly distrusting of the Avenger after his attack wounded you, she seems to have something of an affinity with Illya... camaraderie between homunculi, perhaps? "Of course, I'm gonna wait till the war is over, then it's off to Britain!" Mordred confidently states her plan, and you might have to convince her to make preparations before she just goes ahead and tries to conquer a country single-handedly. While she may have the raw charisma to raise an army of her own from the populace, trying to conquer the United Kingdom with just that much isn't going to go well. There are too many powerful and unpredictable magi lurking for that.

Avenger remains silent as the Servants set off, leaping from building to building, with Giselle and Leysritt following them. Leysritt is carrying Sella on her back so as not to leave the one maid without physical enhancements on her own. Sella looks terribly embarrassed about being forced to piggy back on her colleague.
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It doesn't take long till your entourage has returned to the mansion, and it really did only take about twenty minutes! Even better, your arms have maintained full functionality, and so has one of your legs! The only thing still healing is your leg, which is now only missing about half of your foot. You could walk on it, but it would be deeply unpleasant. Seems like your ability to regenerate is actually growing faster, a nice trade-off for your own healing not have any sort of effect on you, you suppose. To be able to heal from a severed limb in under half an hour is an incredible feat of magic, but you're not satisfied. You want to turn that half an hour into half a minute! Though that might take your reality marble to be ready to deploy before it's possible. As it is, the process of it healing your wounds isn't nearly as quick as it needs to be!

Your clothes are of course, once again, completely ruined. You need to stop going out at night wearing expensive outfits... Maybe if you ask her politely enough, Akiha will let you borrow an outfit? "Mordred, you... don't need to keep carrying me, I can walk on my own now." The king looks at your only half healed foot, but complies with your request regardless. You feel like letting the other girls see you being carried into the mansion by Mordred would be far more dangerous than just walking around on a half-healed foot. Besides, your other foot is fully healed now anyway!

As you step into the entrance hall of the large mansion, you see Rin, Arcueid and Sakura talking about something. Satsuki and the Oni girls are nowhere to be found. Nor is SHIKI, come to think of it.

Sakura rushes up to you as she notices your tattered clothing, and frowns. Knowing that you must've taken some pretty bad injuries on your quest to retrieve Illya. "Onii-chan... You got hurt again didn't you?" Her voice sounds disappointed as she acknowledges your damaged clothing. Sakura doesn't seem to enjoy you getting yourself hurt.

You awkwardly scratch the back of your head. "Haha... yeah, I'm fine now though." You really hope that the girl doesn't notice your foot which is still only half regenerated, but you have already accepted that such a thing is basically impossible. Sakura is far too observant to have not noticed. "Is everyone back now?" You desperately try to change the topic.

"Saber and Shirou are still absent." Sakura shrugs. "Seeing as not everyone is here, don't you think it would be wiser to change out of those damaged clothes?" The girl gives you a sweet smile as she suggests changing from your ruined outfit into a fresh one, but...

"But... I didn't but any spare outfits?" You should really start buying in bulk.
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Sakura laughs a little. "That's not a problem, I bought you a few spare sets while I was in town." She... really does know you well, doesn't she?

>Go and get changed into a new outfit.
>Wait for Shirou and Saber to arrive back, you can change your outfit after you've settled on a plan.
>You can change your outfit after you've found Betty. It's been too long since the girl fell asleep now, and it's time for her to wake up.
>You kind of want to see SHIKI first. You've barely spoken to the boy since you made him a true immortal.
>Write-in...
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>>4650023
>>You can change your outfit after you've found Betty. It's been too long since the girl fell asleep now, and it's time for her to wake up.
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>>4650023
You can change your outfit after you've found Betty. It's been too long since the girl fell asleep now, and it's time for her to wake up
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>>4650023
>Change of clothes
>Wake up Betty
Guess it wouldn't do to have Betty's first impression of waking up be seeing how we got fucked up
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>>4650023
You can change your outfit after you've found Betty.
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>>4650023
>You kind of want to see SHIKI first. You've barely spoken to the boy since you made him a true immortal.
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>>4650023
>You can change your outfit after you've found Betty. It's been too long since the girl fell asleep now, and it's time for her to wake up.
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>>4650023
You kind of want to see SHIKI first. You've barely spoken to the boy since you made him a true immortal.
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10 minutes till I call.
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>>4650023
>You can change your outfit after you've found Betty. It's been too long since the girl fell asleep now, and it's time for her to wake up.
Servant first!
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>>4650023
>You can change your outfit after you've found Betty. It's been too long since the girl fell asleep now, and it's time for her to wake up.
its not like SHIKI can die
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New thread when?
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>>4650086
I hope awakened Betty will be more fun.
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>>4650104
I literally cannot.
There's a max of 5 threads on the board at one time.
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>>4650115
Really?
When is your first thread going to die?
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>>4650118
>>4650115
>first thread posted 26 days ago
>still on page 8
holy mother of all dead boards, lmao
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>>4650122
>page 8
Fuck. It's going to be like another week before it dies.
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>>4650122
Lol welcome to QST
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>>4650122
the wallpaper board has a thread from 2 years ago
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>>4650125
>>4650126
worst thing is? after 1500 posts 4chan starts erasing the earliest non-op posts, so part of the thread WILL be lost
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>>4650132
I've never actually seen that problem with a /qst/ thread, not that they often get into the 1500+ range.
Is that a thing?

>>4650128
Papercraft and Origami has a thread that's older than /qst/ is.
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>>4650138
how old is this board even? i only began using it for this quest.
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>>4650132
>>4650138
>>4650143
Pretty sure Awakening once hit 3k posts without anything being erased.
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>>4650143
About four years now.
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Anyone know of any other good fate quests? This one has given me a craving of sorts. Also, not sure if asking about other quests is against etiquette and if it is I apologize.
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>>4650023
>You can change your outfit after you've found Betty. It's been too long since the girl fell asleep now, and it's time for her to wake up.
It’s for the best that we wake Betty up....should she still be here that is
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>>4650182
Ah wait shit it’s already been called. Should have checked the time the calling post was made before voting. Oh well.
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>>4650181
Fate City Akeldama is good and tells a pretty unique story.
Its sequel kind of flops but adds good context to the original.
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You can change your outfit after you've found your Servant, she's been sleeping far too much as of late, and it's starting to become something of a concern, could it have to do with her lack of proximity to the grail? The connection may not be as strong here, sure, but you're pretty confident in your own energy reserves that it shouldn't be a simple problem of lack of energy, then... what could it be? Could there be something in Fuyuki that keeps Betty from sleeping so much? It's a mystery you just don't have any answers for.

"Alright, Sakura, I'll change in just a second, but first, I need to find my Servant, she's probably still asleep, and I might not have ended up getting wounded if I remembered to take her with me." Betty's mystic eyes are a tremendously powerful skill when it comes to supporting another Servant in a battle. Mordred would've had very little difficulty in crushing Lancer had Betty been there to slow the staff wielding Servant down. You quickly move through the mansion, hobbling along for a few minutes before the last of your foot recovers.

As you wander through the mansion towards the meeting room, you realize that you kind of... forgot Lugh downtown. Of course, it's not like he's in any danger. Besides, you're pretty certain that he would've gotten bored and returned to Touko's side already... Wherever she is, last you saw her she was heading off to inspect the basement for whatever reason. You'll just leave her to it.

You eventually end up finding where your Servant fell asleep, and just as you approach, the girl assumes material form, apparently waking up with your presence so close. It's nice that your presence alone seems to be capable of waking her up, but immensely annoying that your presence doesn't seem to be capable of preventing her from falling asleep in the first place! Her eyes are bleary and unfocused as she looks up at you. "Good night, Betty. Did you sleep well?" You can't remain displeased with the girl for very long. Just looking at her innocent face is enough to clear your annoyance with her lack of reliability. At this point, you feel like you've got enough powerful allies you can rely on that the girl can be afforded the chance to rest whenever she wants. It's clearly a result of her powers that she feels the need to sleep so often, so it's not like she's actually doing this on purpose.

"Master?" Betty rubs her eyes tiredly as you approach her, and then seems to notice just how damaged your outfit is, and immediately looks upset. "Did you... get hurt?" Her sad eyes immediately make you feel bad, and you were the one who was injured!
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"Ah? No, this was just from a little scrape I had when I tripped over!" It's a terrible lie, but Betty seems to buy it. What you fail to mention is that your trip was caused by a large arrow fired by Avenger and that you lost a leg and broke two other limbs. Betty doesn't need to know what you get up to when she's asleep, you don't want the girl to start feeling bad about her inability to help you at all times. She's an excellent help when she's actually around. "Let's head to my room, shall we? I want to get dressed, Sakura apparently got me a replacement outfit." You smile happily. Sakura really is a good sister.

As you wander back through the halls and towards the guest rooms with Betty accompanying you by your side, you stop for a moment at an ajar door, as you can hear speech just beyond it, your curiosity getting the better of you, you inch a bit closer in order to see just what's being said. You know that what you're doing is rude, but honestly, it's hardly less rude than to have a detailed knowledge of most everyone in this damn mansion based on reading about them from their own perspective!

"So, can you tell me a little more about this Shinji? You said that he managed to... undo the damage of a cut line of death?" A familiar sounding voice that you can't quite place asks a question.

"Uh, yeah. When I cut this girl up..." Shiki pauses awkwardly. "W-well, it was a complete accident! I just suddenly found myself standing over her cut up body! I blacked out!" Shiki only now is realizing just how bad it sounds to admit to doing such a thing.

"Right." The woman's voice sounds a little concerned with Shiki's admission of attempted murder, but doesn't seem to want to push it. "I'm not going to judge, just... tell me what happened."

"Well, you see, I cut this girl... Arcade? I think her name was, into pieces, Shinji suddenly said he could heal her! I didn't believe him at first, but then he kneeled down and started... healing the cuts... he was putting her body back together like she was a jigsaw puzzle, then, when she was all together again, she suddenly came back to life... and uh... almost choked me to death." Shiki sounds really very awkward as he recounts the events to the mystery events.

"Shiki..." The woman's voice is gentle, and it sounds like she's about to reassure the boy.

>Continue eavesdropping, you want to hear this.
>Enter the room, it might be rude to eavesdrop, but it's ruder to talk about people behind their back!
>Just leave Shiki and the mystery woman to it.
>Write-in...
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>>4650229
>>Enter the room, it might be rude to eavesdrop, but it's ruder to talk about people behind their back!
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>>4650229
>>Just leave Shiki and the mystery woman to it.
Uh-oh.
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>>4650229
>Enter the room, it might be rude to eavesdrop, but it's ruder to talk about people behind their back!
Hello there Aoko.
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>>4650229
Just leave Shiki and the mystery woman to it.

We'll get to it after we change
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>>4650229
Knock.
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>>4650229
>Enter the room, it might be rude to eavesdrop, but it's ruder to talk about people behind their back!
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>>4650229
>Enter the room, it might be rude to eavesdrop, but it's ruder to talk about people behind their back!
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>>4650229
>>Enter the room, it might be rude to eavesdrop, but it's ruder to talk about people behind their back!
FUCK YES ITS AOKO
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>>4650229
>Just leave Shiki and the mystery woman to it.
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>>4650229
>>Enter the room, it might be rude to eavesdrop, but it's ruder to talk about people behind their back!
Aoko is not our enemy.
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>>4650229
>Enter the room, it might be rude to eavesdrop, but it's ruder to talk about people behind their back!
Love to be a mediator at Aozaki family reunion.
>>4650181
City Akeldama/Awakening Mirror was solid but it all fell apart before the end mostly due to drama.
Overgrowth was also decent and had a proper ending even if it was rushed.
/tg/ archive also has few old fate related quests but since it was on /tg/ they are more about quick updates with less text and occasional whining about quests killing /tg/.
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>>4650262
What are this quests even about?
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>>4650229
>Enter the room, it might be rude to eavesdrop, but it's ruder to talk about people behind their back!
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>>4650262
>City Akeldama/Awakening Mirror was solid but it all fell apart before the end mostly due to drama.
Oh man those two last threads of Awakening were hilarious.
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>>4650229
>Enter the room
Does anyone else have problems with the reCAPTCHA?
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>>4650270
Why what happened
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>>4650274
Just read the archive my dude. Any description I can give you will be a disservice to the parade of murderhobos, coomers and just random anons shitting on each other and QM who by the last thread just kind of gives up and leaves that whole trashfire.
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>>4650274
Everything went completely edgy and retarded as they set up bloodfort, killed shirou infront of his family, had medusa help kill shirou and his family then decide that was bad and attack the OC, then he killed his brother for a fairly minor power up.
A significant portion of the playerbase thought this was retarded as shit and the threads were literally on fire the whole fucking time.
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>>4650267
City Akeldama/Awakening Mirror was about being egomaniac jobber with moral compass of Dirlewanger. Although it was mostly on the players.
Overgrowth was about child of overseer taking part in grail war.
And I remember archive had one about american grail war with Odysseus, Solomon and Skinwalker and one about very edgy Shirou.
>>4650270
Off thread drama in /qtg/ was a wildfire.
Still wish it got a proper conclusion though.
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>>4650289
>Still wish it got a proper conclusion though.
QM said he wanted to do the third part of the story as another quest but considering that his playerbase by the last thread consisted of two anons and a samefag those plans were never realized.
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>>4650285
>killed shirou infront of his family
Into the trash it goes
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Ten minute till call time.

>>4650296
I still hope he comes back one day.
It feels like sometimes you don't realize how much you appreciate somebody until they are gone.
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Now that Aoko is back in the mix, I wanted to ask QM, what would’ve happened if we tried to convince Aoko to kill Zouken back when we first went to Misaki Town?
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>>4650289
Really, the biggest thing is that the mc went from a reasonably powerful individual who put forth significant effort to overcome challenges in Akeldama, to an instakilling god who reality conspired to screw over in an attempt to compensate for his unstoppable lightsaber.
Really, Sweets biggest mistake was letting players choose to play a class he knew he wouldn't be able to write in a satisfying way.
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>>4650303
Convincing her to help would've been quite easy, and Zouken would definitely have ended up dying once and for all had she been the one fighting him. But you aslo would've ended up depriving yourself some development.
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>>4650289
interesting
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>>4650310
Yeah that's what I thought. On one hand yay Sakura is saved much earlier than expected, on the other hand it would've been extremely anti climactic and it wouldn't be as fun not being so pressed for time as we prepare for a deathmatch
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>>4650319
is this oc from that quest
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>>4650301
I hope you don't mind that we brought it all up.
>>4650309
I think he really wanted to write it as VN and said so few times but he left player free reign over power ups and it ended up with extremly unsatifsying combination with no way to fix it and he only realised it half-way through. He really should have either change Servants for the second part or let player pick that broken NP for "character re-roll" and make something that works in that story. Or let it all conclude in two or three days and go for part 3 with light heart. Such a shame since part 1 had good power balance.
>>4650331
Yes. It was completely useless insta kill sword.
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>>4650331
Yes.
The mc's sword cuts anything it touches, so it wasn't allowed to touch anything.
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>>4650350
i see
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>>4650349
The best lesson to take away from Mirror, is that you shouldn't give players options you don't want to write about.
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You push the door all the way open to the room with a smile on your face. "Skiki-kun! Aoko-san! It's a pleasure to see the two of you again!" There was really only one person that Shiki could possibly be talking to like that, only one woman that the boy trusts entirely, enough to even tell her about what he did to Arcueid with only a tiny amount of coaxing. "You know, it's kind of rude to talk about somebody behind their back..." Shiki jumps in surprise as you enter the room, but Aoko doesn't seem surprised at all.

"Well, at least you had the decency to not just keep eavesdropping. So you're Shinji? Funny... you look kind of familiar." Aoko looks like she's trying to recall your face, and you have no doubt that she'd be capable of it if you gave her enough time, but you decide it would be simpler

"Oh yeah, we met a few years ago, on the train? With Monica? You almost had a fight over me." You shrug, an annoying smirk adorning your face. "I'm surprised that you're here, Miss Fifth, was Touko the one who called you here?" You ask the woman, who frowns at little at the mention of her sister's name.

"Yes, that's right, she said that there was a problem with Dead Apostle Ancestors in the town, and after my memories of the Extra Ranked Dead Apostle Ancestor Roa started trying to change, I knew that something was definitely going on, and so I decided to investigate things for myself." Oh? So is Aoko also somewhat immune to the effects of what you did to Roa? You suppose it makes sense, as a wielder of True Magic, the girl definitely ought to have a better chance of remembering the reincarnating vampire than most people, and even her memories were at least somewhat altered.

"Ah, Roa. Yeah, you won't be able to find many people who can remember him anymore." You grin wildly as you look at Aoko. "After all, he's been erased from the Root itself. I'm honestly quite surprised you're able to remember him, Miss Fifth. Is it a result of your True Magic?" You calmly ask the woman, who starts looking at you with far more suspicion.

"Yes... That's probably the case, but how can you remember Roa?" The woman asks the killer question. If only a True Magic Wielder or somebody with a link to Roa could recognize he ever existed in the first place, then why would you have a reason to recall him?

"Oh, that's because I was the one who erased him!" You chuckle a little. Not only did you manage to get rid of that bastard Roa, but you managed to truly save SHIKI at the same time. It might just be one of your greatest victories, if an unintended one.

"You're kidding." Aoko does not sound amused as she tries to discern whether or not the boy in front of her is telling the truth or not, not finding any evidence of a lie in your words or expression.
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"Why would I lie about something like that?" You shrug again. "As for the other Dead Apostle Ancestors in town, I've already gotten rid of Nrvnqsr with the help of my sister, and later tonight, with any luck, I should be getting rid of Altrouge Brunestud and Rizo-Waal Strout."

Aoko's eyes widen as you so casually refer to the killing of Dead Apostle Ancestors as if it were some simple matter, and not just any Dead Apostle Ancestors either! Both Roa and Nrvnqsr should've been almost completely unkillable for any single magus, and defeating even one of them would've taken a sizable force of troops from either the Church or the Mage's Association to defeat, never mind permanently destroy. But the idea of killing two of the top ten Dead Apostle Ancestors is even more ridiculous than that!

Before Aoko can question you further, you hear footsteps and a voice behind you. "Oh, there you are Wakame-kun!" Touko comes walking up behind you, an additional set of footsteps accompany her, light and quiet enough that they really only belong to Lugh. As she gets closer, the first thing she notices are your tattered clothes. "Christ, you look like you've been dragged backwards through a hedge, what happ-" Touko cuts herself off as she sees the person you were just talking to trying to peer out of the room, and there's an awkward moment of silence.

"Aoko."

"Nee-san."

>"OK and that's my time! Shishou! Let's go!"
>"Ah, well, this is my teacher in magecraft. I think the two of you... might already know each other."
>Remain silent, you want to see what happens.
>Write-in...
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>>4650436
>>"Ah, well, this is my teacher in magecraft. I think the two of you... might already know each other."
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>>4650436
>"OK and that's my time! Shishou! Let's go!"
last thing I want is them fighting...or comparing students
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>>4650436
>>"Ah, well, this is my teacher in magecraft. I think the two of you... might already know each other."
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>>4650436
>Ah, well, this is my teacher in magecraft. I think the two of you...might already know each other.
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>>4650436
>"Ah, well, this is my teacher in magecraft. I think the two of you... might already know each other."
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>>4650443
We finally get a chance to mediate and you want to just leave?
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>>4650436
>>"Ah, well, this is my teacher in magecraft. I think the two of you... might already know each other."
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>>4650436
>>Remain silent, you want to see what happens.
Maybe they can behave, and if not then I would like some drama.
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>>4650436
>"Ah, well, this is my teacher in magecraft. I think the two of you... might already know each other."
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>>4650436
>>"Ah, well, this is my teacher in magecraft. I think the two of you... might already know each other."
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>>4650436
>"Ah, well, this is my teacher in magecraft. I think the two of you... might already know each other."
>also please dont fight, akiha is going to kill us if we destroy the house
>btw shiki i can fix your eyes maybe
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>>4650436
>"Ah, well, this is my teacher in magecraft. I think the two of you... might already know each other."

>>4650507
>btw shiki i can fix your eyes maybe
Right, I forgot we still didn't do it.
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>>4650514
He's technically already healed, Shiki was only really weakened because he's running on a quarter of a lifespan Ahika gave him and that SHIKI stole. When SHIKI became truly immortal, he either gave back the lifeforce he stole or them sharing a lifeforce made Shiki immortal or superhuman
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>>4650514
>>4650523
Unless you want to offer to use your Truth Magic directly on his eyes for some reason.
Remember that in some ways, the Mystic Eyes of Death Perception have a direct connection to the Root...
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>>4650436
>"Ah, well, this is my teacher in magecraft. I think the two of you... might already know each other."
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>>4650533
can we do it or not
cant we just remove his current eyes and give him new ones
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>>4650541
I suggest you think about what I just suggested you were capable of doing.
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>>4650547
we can change the way the eye works just like we did with roa? i guess?
I'm bad at this and im drunk.
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>>4650541
>>4650552
Is there any reason to do that?
Now that he is no longer crippled thanks to SHIKI he should be fine.
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>>4650552
We could probably affect death in some way through them since they have "connection" to it.
At very least giving Shiki a literal death glare might be possible.
Might be a good idea to get ourselves some mystic eyes too or work with eyes of our allies.
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>>4650562
i don't think shiki has total control of the eyes even without SHIKI? it will eventually melt the glasses and kill him or something.
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>>4650564
Like a copy of some existing ones or creating our own variant?
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>>4650568
>it will eventually melt the glasses
Just give him some spare glasses.
>kill him or something.
It's been a long time since I've played through Tsukihime but shouldn't he be completely fine as long as he doesn't use his eyes?

>>4650564
>giving Shiki a literal death glare
That's not how our magic works. The only thing that we can do is sever Shiki's eyes link to the root.
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>>4650571
We can maybe get something like "Truth projection"?
We might have situation like with magecraft studies. A lot normal more mundane options might have huge unexpected benefits just like healing was.
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>>4650574
>t's been a long time since I've played through Tsukihime but shouldn't he be completely fine as long as he doesn't use his eyes?
I don't think he has complete control of it, if i remember right he would just kill things accidentaly and kill himself eventually without the mystic eye killers.
Its also been a long time since i played tsukihime.
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>>4650547
You mean he'd have world editation powers?
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>>4650574
>>4650586
The issue isn't him breaking his glasses, it's his mystic eyes increasing in power to the point where they no longer work, causing him to destroy everything he touches when he doesn't obstruct his vision.
Then, his eyes will become too powerful for his body to support, which will eventually kill him.
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>>4650589
Not quite, remember that you can better apply concepts to things that don't have Gaia's influence being exerted on them.
Like Sakura through her Imaginary Numbers World and Roa through his connection to the root.
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>>4650574
We are yet to know full extent of Truth.
So I would image affecting certain qualities of Mystic Eyes as long as they are part of initial design should not be that much of a stretch with our Reality Marble involved.
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>>4650595
oh right, you mean the kind of laser surgery where lasers go INTO the eyes and not the other way around.
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>>4650592
yeah this.
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>>4650586
>I don't think he has complete control of it, if i remember right he would just kill things accidentaly and kill himself eventually without the mystic eye killers.
Seems like a problem that can be solved with more mystic eye killers.
On a serious note we should ask him if he wants his eyes to be turned normal before we do anything.

>>4650598
Sure, we could try. Creating new mystic eyes from the ground up is really outside of what we can do with our powers.
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>>4650595
So we could power him up like we did to Sakura, make his eyes Mystic Eyes of Death and (Something) Perception? Maybe Magic perception? That's the only thing I can think of.
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>>4650612
Wouldn't powering his eyes up also make him die faster?
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>>4650612
Go full whack, make them the Mystic Eyes of Life and Death Perception.
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>>4650607
It's explicitly not a problem that can be solved with more mystic eye killers, they can only suppress mystic eyes up to a certain level of power.
As Shiki has eyes that are always increasing in power, they have a limited period of effectiveness before they become useless.
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>>4650620
He's plugged to an Immortal now, dying shouldn't be much of an issue.
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>>4650622
Where do they gain the power, from Shiki himself, or from the Root? Or some other source?
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>>4650622
>>4650625
I have one guy telling me that we should remove the eyes or Shiki will die and another guy telling me that we should empower them instead and that Shiki will be fine.
I wonder which one of you is correct.
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>>4650627
I would assume from the root.
They kill him when they become too powerful for his body to handle, so it wouldn't make sense if they were derived from the power of his body's magical energy.
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>>4650631
Shiki has a certain level of control of the eyes, if they become to strong he will kill the glasses and everything he see.
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>>4650639
In that case severing the connection would fix his problem while also depriving him of the power.
Although I suppose if we studied his ability we'd be able to figure out whether we can fix the imbalance without severing the connection, or while modifying it.
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How much time shiki has before the glasses die and shit gets fucked for his eyes?
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>>4650661
approximately four
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>>4650621
Let's give him the strongest Mystic Eyes. The Mystic Eyes of Debt Perception.
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I think Shiki might be our Manaka bullet. I've been thinking why WhatIs would push up Tsukihime and to me it makes a weird sense.
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>>4650694
eh, honestly fgo is easy to play f2p, people just can't control their dicks and money.
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Guess its slow going on the weekends too.
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>>4650743
Sorry I've just been busy recently. My schedule isn't as free as it was in the last few weeks right now.
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>>4650749
its fine, take your time
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>>4650749
Take your time. I've been all over country last week or so doing deliveries so I get it.
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>>4650436
Ah, well, this is my teacher in magecraft. I think the two of you... might already know each other and
>"OK and that's my time! Shishou! Let's go
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>>4650661
Shiki doesn't have to worry about frying his brain if we keep unfrying it
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>>4650595
If we can power people up with root connections why not instead power up Shiki further, Balor could kill people by looking at them and Ryougi Shiki could do absurd stuff and kill concepts themselves
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>>4650948
Are you going to hold him by the hand for the rest of his life?
>>4650967
He can't control his eyes as they are now. If we power them up things will only get worse for him.
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>>4650972
I'm sure he can handle at least four times the juice before he explodes.
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"Ah, well, this is my teacher in magecraft. I think the two of you... might already know each other." You try to break the ice with a joke, but unfortunately, you'd need a nuclear powered icebreaker to even make a crack in it. The relationship between the two sisters could be explained in one word. 'Tolerate'. Not as in, they 'tolerate' the presence of the other sibling, but rather they 'tolerate' the other sister existing and won't go out of their way to see them be destroyed.

"So, you were my sister's student?" Aoko regards the puppet master in front of her with cold eyes, before her face turns to a warm smile. "Are you sure you don't want to be my student? I can only imagine what horrors you've had to endure as her apprentice."

"Sensei!?" Shiki splutters in surprise as Aoko suddenly out of the blue offers you a role as her student, and the effect is has on Touko is even worse.

"Aoko, I'm really more displeased in you for thinking that my student would ever willingly want to become the student of a lucky second-rate like yourself than for actually making the offer." She then proceeds to point at Shiki. "Of course, a 'good' teacher wouldn't have to steal from her sister in order to get her so-called 'student' what he needs to function as a normal human being!" Aoko grits her teeth. "Oh please, it's not my fault that you have absolutely no talent as a magus except when it comes to breaking things! Do you have any idea how much it cost me to develop those prototype Mystic Eye Killers?" Touko yells at her sister, who just shrugs.

"If you didn't want them taken, you shouldn't have just left them where I could get them." Aoko has a cheeky smirk on her face, and her words clearly incense her sister even further. She was clearly angry with Touko a second ago for calling her a failure of a teacher, but seems to believe that the best way to get her own back would be to drive Touko into a mad rage.

"They were in a sealed box protected by over a dozen spells!" Touko is clearly getting angrier and angrier by the minute when faced by the flippant attitude of her sister.

"Then maybe you should use two dozen next time?" Aoko lazily yawns. "Also, what exactly do you mean by prototype?" One thing that Touko said has clearly gotten Aoko quite interested, and Touko forcibly calms herself down in order to gloat.
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"What I mean is that the pair of Mystic Eye Killers you stole for your student there don't work properly! Not only are those glasses powerless against more powerful Mystic Eyes, but they also require the wearer to physically take them off in order to use their abilities!" Touko's gloating increases as Aoko grits her teeth once again. "Of course, my actual full version of them are far more effective, contact lenses that through the application of a mental command from the wearer can be activated or deactivated at will, but that's not all, through a small hypnotic suggestion woven into the structure of the lenses, they also cause the eyes of the wearer to only see what they wish to see while they are active, blocking not Mystic Eyes, but also the effects of Pure Eyes as well!" Touko proudly declares her ownership of the sort of thing that would really be beneficial to somebody like Shiki, and of course, her ability to rub something in Aoko's face.

"Are you sure you don't want to be my student, Shinji? You can't honestly say you enjoy working for this cruel woman, right? I don't know just what sort of reason she has for training you, but I doubt it's a good one, she's probably planning on dissecting you or something." Touko goes to defend herself against the accusation, but Aoko simply points a finger gun at her sister, blue magic circles appearing in front of the digit. "Don't think I won't hesitate to destroy that puppet body of yours, Nee-san." Aoko has a cold voice as she looks at her sister. Of course, Aoko is well aware that she'd have great difficulty in defeating Lugh, but Touko herself isn't really a problem for her. In terms of pure power, Aoko has increased far more than Touko has since the last time the two tried to kill each other. You find it quite funny that the second time you end up meeting Aoko, and she's once again picking a fight with the closest thing you have to a guardian.

>"I wouldn't suggest threatening my Shishou, Aoko. Or else."
>"God, what is it with you and picking fights with women around me? Am I just that desirable?
>"Can't the two of you just make up? You don't have to be enemies, you realize?"
>"I can say with absolute certainty that I have complete and total faith in Touko, and that you should have a little more faith in her yourself."
>Write-in...
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>>4650992
>>"I can say with absolute certainty that I have complete and total faith in Touko, and that you should have a little more faith in her yourself."
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>>4650992
I wouldn't suggest threatening my Shishou, Aoko. Or else."
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>>4650992
>"I can say with absolute certainty that I have complete and total faith in Touko, and that you should have a little more faith in her yourself."
I hope to one day get through a conversation with Aoko without her threatening to murder one of our friends.
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>>4650992
>>"I can say with absolute certainty that I have complete and total faith in Touko, and that you should have a little more faith in her yourself."
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>>4650992
>I can say with absolute certainty that I have complete and total faith in Touko, and that you should have a little more faith in her as yourself.
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>>4650972
we might not have to, we have Touko and Aoko with us, we can get to the bottom of what exactly is up with Shiki now, maybe further entrenching him into the Root stops him from going brain dead
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>"Shishou, Aoko, you're both roses cut from the same bush and as roses I can only wear one on my suit near my heart. Although it flatters me that the second magic magician would consider someone such as I a potential student I can only carry one rose. Touko."
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>>4650992
>>"I can say with absolute certainty that I have complete and total faith in Touko, and that you should have a little more faith in her yourself."
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>>4651015
No offence anon but reading that line made me cringe.
Tension fills the room. Two of the most powerful magi of their generation are about to clash in a duel to the death. And then all of a sudden Shinji transforms into Johnny Bravo.
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>>4651015
Oof
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>>4651026
It's not THAT worse than the second preset option.
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>>4651026
Also that seems like a terrible thing to say when there are 4 or 5 people carrying a torch for us and I think all of them can smoosh us like we were a rotten tomato
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>>4651026
kek. Not even Charisma B can save that.
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>>4650992
>>"I can say with absolute certainty that I have complete and total faith in Touko, and that you should have a little more faith in her yourself."
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>>4650992
>>"I can say with absolute certainty that I have complete and total faith in Touko, and that you should have a little more faith in her yourself."
Aoko is cool and would’ve actually killed Zouken for us instead of just treating it like a test like Touko did but has still been good to us
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>>4651037
Imagine stunting your student's growth by denying him the satisfaction of killing his grandfather.
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Is it called yet?
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>>4650992
>"I can say with absolute certainty that I have complete and total faith in Touko, and that you should have a little more faith in her yourself."
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>>4651076
I won't be calling this one till the morning. Sorry, but it's late and I need to sleep. I'll try getting five or six updates out for you guys tomorrow though.
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>>4651101
Don't strain yourself QM. You were able to keep an excellent pace for a while. There's no issue if you need to slow down a little.
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>>4651101
It's cool, I just like to know whether or not I should be anticipating an update.
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>>4650992
>"I can say with absolute certainty that I have complete and total faith in Touko, and that you should have a little more faith in her yourself."
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>>4651101
Take your time, well rested QM is best. We can wait, I would be just fine with even 1-3 updates if it was best for you
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>>4650992
>"I can say with absolute certainty that I have complete and total faith in Touko, and that you should have a little more faith in her yourself."
Touko went pretty far for us considering she could have just dissected us back then we first met.
As cool as it could have been with Aoko killing old worm and going on her merry way studying under Touko actually allowed us to achieve much better overall results in grand scheme of things for everyone. We probably even mellowed down Touko herself.
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>>4650992
>"Can't the two of you just make up? You don't have to be enemies, you realize?"
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>>4650992
>>"I can say with absolute certainty that I have complete and total faith in Touko, and that you should have a little more faith in her yourself."

Inb4 99/100

Maybe it wouldn’t hurt to add something to mollify Aoko too, like
>I am honored by your offer and appreciate the good intentions I am convinced you hold...
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>>4650992
>"I can say with absolute certainty that I have complete and total faith in Touko, and that you should have a little more faith in her yourself."
Aoko, chill the fuck out.
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>>4650992
>"I can say with absolute certainty that I have complete and total faith in Touko, and that you should have a little more faith in her yourself."
Let's get that 99/100 we don't have a kuudere in our harem yet.
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Who do you guys think the fox kit is btw?
Could it be a cursed/polymorphed Kiritsugu? There has to be a reason why we met them in Illya’s room.
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>>4651420
I really doubt it is Kiritsugu. But since he is yet to appear I am thinking he might ended up making contract with Alaya and just waiting for deployment.
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Can't we off Aoko the same way we eradicated Roa? Not saying we should, just that she is directly connected to the Root via being a Magician, so piggybacking off of her to the Akashic Records should be easy enough, right?
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>>4651467
What a cruel thing to think.

Alright, let's get this update written.
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>>4650992
>"I can say with absolute certainty that I have complete and total faith in Touko, and that you should have a little more faith in her yourself."
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>>4651429
>Kiritsugu shows up as EMIYA (Assassin) complete with ghostly Iri companion
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"I can say with absolute certainty that I have complete and total faith in Touko, and that you should have a little more faith in her yourself." Of most everyone you've met, Touko has always been one of the most reliable and helpful. Your teacher in magecraft is practically one of the only reasons you've managed to survive as long as you have. You might've had a lot of raw talent, but without a teacher on the level of Touko, you would've been forced to learn everything through self-study, and that's easier said than done. In truth, you've become one of the most powerful people on the planet in terms of just what your maximum power can achieve. Sure, some magi will be able to blow up a castle with a single spell, and other such seemingly impressive feats of strength, but in truth, being able to destroy a castle isn't actually impressive. Not in the grand scheme of things, of course, it would've been impressive maybe two hundred years ago, but it's not like humanity hasn't had the ability to level buildings with explosions since the dawn of gunpowder.

"You... do?" Aoko sounds a little confused by your overwhelmingly positive opinion on her sister, so you decide to continue.

"It was Touko who gave me the opportunity to learn magecraft and tap into my full potential, it was Touko who gave me the tools I needed to save my sister from my grandfather, and it is always Touko who helps me when I am unable to solve something myself!" At the time, you were a little irritated by Touko refusing to just kill Zouken for you, but you can understand just why she did it, had you not had the motivating factor of Zouken to worry about, then you might not have felt the need to prioritize training as you did, and seeing as the grail war has been far from the simple matter that you were hoping it was going to be, you can only look back on Touko's decision with gratitude.

"But that's..." Aoko goes to say something...

"Not like Touko?" You cut her off. "Aoko, how well do you actually think you know your sister? The two of you haven't actually spent much time together, have you? Separated by grudges and bad feelings, that's just no way for siblings to be with each other." You shake your head in disapproval, and you hope Touko is also taking note of what you're saying here. While it takes two to tango, Touko is just as guilty for the state of her relationship as Aoko is, because neither of these girls would ever consider reaching out to the other without somebody willing to risk the anger of two of the strongest female magi on the planet pushing it. "Think of what the two of you could accomplish if you actually worked together! Are you going to continue feuding with each other for your whole lives?" Aoko and Touko working together would be the ultimate magus combination of power and skill, and you doubt that even Caster would be able to defeat the two girls if they worked together to beat her.
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"Thanks for sticking up for me, Wakame-kun, but I doubt your words are going to reach my thick skulled sister." Touko gently grabs a hold of your arm and begins to lead you away from Shiki's room, and the magic circles hovering around Aoko's index finger vanish.

"Wait! Nee-san!" Aoko calls out to Touko, who stops in her tracks. "Shall we... agree to try to get to know each other better?" Aoko seems to have actively made the decision to accept your advice to make up with her sister, or at least start trying to do something. Better that than nothing, you suppose.

Touko frowns as she turns to face her sister, clearly hesitating to answer. Her grudges for Aoko run deep, and despite forgiving her years ago, disliking her sister is something that came naturally to her. "...Fine. I'll be... happy to go and get a coffee with you some time. But you're paying! I'm well aware just how much money you're granted by the Mage's Association every week just for being the fifth." There's a tone of annoyance in Touko's voice as she is reminded of the huge stipend Aoko is paid by the Clock Tower just for associating with them and not with Atlas Academy or the Wandering Sea.

Aoko smirks at her sister. "Well, if you sold more of those wonder inventions of yours, maybe you wouldn't keep running into money problems!" There's a friendlier tone to Aoko's voice now, obviously more well-meaning with her suggestion. She's not wrong either, Touko could probably make millions if she just sold her unused junk. You remember that they needed to basically exchange everything of value in the Matou Mansion just to trade for a second-hand version of one of Touko's puppets in the True Ending for Heaven's Feel.

"Heh, maybe." Touko actually laughs at Aoko's suggestion.

"I wish that strange people would stop intruding on my life." Shiki just sighs as he lays back in his bed. "I can't even have a peaceful reunion with Sensei without it becoming some mad fever dream. Is this even real? Am I just in some sort of coma dream?" Shiki is speaking his thoughts out loud as he looks up at his lightbulb. You actually kind of feel bad about bursting in on Shiki's reunion with his long absent teacher.

>Just go, you've managed to get Aoko and Touko to at least try to get along better.
>"Say, Shiki, how is your scar feeling nowadays? I just want to confirm something."
>"Hey Shiki, do you want me to fix your eyes? I've got just the sort of magic that will allow me to make it so you can control them perfectly, I think.
>"Touko, could you please give Shiki those special mystic eye killers you were talking about? I feel bad about being such a burden on his life."
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Oh, forgot
>Write-in...
Is always an option.
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>>4651517
>"Hey Shiki, do you want me to fix your eyes? I've got just the sort of magic that will allow me to make it so you can control them perfectly, I think.
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>>4651517

>I know how you feel. Truly we live in interesting times.
>How do you feel about your Mystic Eyes?
>(to sisters) Can we discuss some options for helping him with them? I may be able to help him with them, but I'd need to know more on how they work.
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>>4651517
>"Say, Shiki, how is your scar feeling nowadays? I just want to confirm something."
>"Hey Shiki, do you want me to fix your eyes? I've got just the sort of magic that will allow me to make it so you can control them perfectly, I think.
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>>4651517
>"Touko, could you please give Shiki those special mystic eye killers you were talking about? I feel bad about being such a burden on his life
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I'll call in 50 minutes.
Pick wisely.
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>>4651517
Touko, could you please give Shiki those special mystic eye killers you were talking about? I feel bad about being such a burden on his life."
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>>4651517
>>"Hey Shiki, do you want me to fix your eyes? I've got just the sort of magic that will allow me to make it so you can control them perfectly, I think.
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>>4651517
>"Hey Shiki, do you want me to fix your eyes? I've got just the sort of magic that will allow me to make it so you can control them perfectly, I think.
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>>4651517
>"Say, Shiki, how is your scar feeling nowadays? I just want to confirm something."
>"Touko, could you please give Shiki those special mystic eye killers you were talking about? I feel bad about being such a burden on his life."
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is it to late to vote
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>>4651591
I'm going to extend the voting period for thirty minutes, need to do some stuff before I can sit down and start writing.
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>>4651594
ok, thanks.
>>4651517
>>4651517
>yeah, sorry.
>"Touko, could you please give Shiki those special mystic eye killers you were talking about? I feel bad about being such a burden on his life."
>i will try to see if i can edit his eyes so they can't kill him without then later
>also are you sure your new mystic eye killers would die to him if his eyes get more powerful?
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>>4651517
>>"Hey Shiki, do you want me to fix your eyes? I've got just the sort of magic that will allow me to make it so you can control them perfectly, I think.
I feel like there's a chance if we fix his scar we might undo what gave him mystic eyes in the first place
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>>4651609
Why would you want to fix his scar anyway? The scar question is just you asking him how he's feeling now he's actually being given lifeforce by SHIKI instead of being drained by him.
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>>4651517
>>"Hey Shiki, do you want me to fix your eyes? I've got just the sort of magic that will allow me to make it so you can control them perfectly, I think.
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>>4651517
>"Say, Shiki, how is your scar feeling nowadays? I just want to confirm something."
>"Hey Shiki, do you want me to fix your eyes? I've got just the sort of magic that will allow me to make it so you can control them perfectly, I think.
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>>4651517
>>"Say, Shiki, how is your scar feeling nowadays? I just want to confirm something."
>>"Hey Shiki, do you want me to fix your eyes? I've got just the sort of magic that will allow me to make it so you can control them perfectly, I think.
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>>4651609
>>4651517
adding to my vote
>"Say, Shiki, how is your scar feeling nowadays? I just want to confirm something."
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>>4651517
>"Say, Shiki, how is your scar feeling nowadays? I just want to confirm something."
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>Eyes
>>4651529
>>4651551
>>4651552
>>4651612
>>4651751

>Write-in
>>4651532

>Write-in 2
>>4651599


>Eyes + Scar
>>4651537
>>4651553
>>4651675
>>4651723
>>4651729

>Mystic Eye Killers
>>4651540
>>4651549

We're technically tied, and I don't really feel like cutting off the newer votes arbitrarily.
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>>4651752
This one >>4651751 is just Scar, not Eyes.
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>>4651756
Oh, well I'm completely blind.
Eyes+Scar wins.
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>>4651752

>>4651553
I was voting for Mystic Eye Killers + Scar
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>>4651762
Oh.
Well now we actually are tied again!
Guess we'll have to wait for the tiebreaker.
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>>4651752
I'll change my vote so we avoid a tie >>4651612
to
>"Say, Shiki, how is your scar feeling nowadays? I just want to confirm something."
>"Hey Shiki, do you want me to fix your eyes? I've got just the sort of magic that will allow me to make it so you can control them perfectly, I think.
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i have a bad feeling about this
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i have a rad feeling about this
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i have a glad feeling about this
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no feelings only root now
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Update is almost done, but family came to visit so can't finish it rn.
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>>4651933
Ogey
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"Hey, don't feel too bad Shiki, isn't your scar feeling much better?" You want to make sure that SHIKI was actually being honest about saying he was giving Shiki his energy now, and though you already had partial confirmation from Akiha, you want to see just what sort of effect that the additional lifeforce has had on Shiki, having a link to an immortal like he has... well, you're not quite sure on the effects. Will Shiki be able to regenerate from wounds rapidly? Will he have enhanced physical capabilities? It's something you're very curious about.

"H-how did you know about that?" Shiki flinches back, apparently having yet to tell even Aoko about his scar not troubling him anymore.

"Oh, let's just say I had no small part to play in... reversing the draining effect it had on you." You smile at the boy, who doesn't know what to make of you right now. "Have you noticed anything different about yourself though? Since the scar stopped being a problem, I mean."

"Not... really? I haven't really felt that much different, but I guess I could say that my body feels stronger since I woke up this morning." Interesting...

"Now, take out your knife and give yourself a very small cut." The boy looks at you in confusion. "Look, just do it, alright? I'll heal you anyway if nothing happens."

"Could you stop trying to get my student to stab himself?" Aoko says with a confused voice, but is shushed by Touko, and with an annoyed look, stops talking.

Shiki eventually does as you ask him, and lightly slashes a thin bloodly line across the back of his hand, wincing for just a moment from the cold bite of his knife. He then looks at the wound for a good twenty seconds while nothing happens to it. "Well, that was a complete waste of time. What exactly are you trying to prove?"

"That." You redirect Shiki's attention back to his hand, and before his eyes, the wound is slowly knitting itself back together. Hmm, seems that his capacity for healing has increased massively, but the boy is far from an immortal. Still, with this level of regeneration and his presumably enhanced level of strength available to him, he should have very little difficulty dispatching the majority of threats that might show their face in Misaki Town. But... there is one last thing you need to ask Shiki. "About... your eyes. Would you mind if I took a closer look at them? I might be able to cause them to not... inhibit your life if I can properly get a connection."

"M-my eyes?" Shiki sounds a little concerned about your sudden request, and Aoko steps in, ever defensive of her student whenever she's around.

"Just what exactly are you planning on doing to Shiki's eyes?" The Fifth Magician asks you with an interested voice. Looks like you've even managed to get Aoko curious about your abilities now.
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"W-well, it's something I only figured out I can actually do last night, but my abilities work much better on people with connections to the Root... Like Shiki's eyes have." You remember that the Mystic Eyes of Death Perception can actually see the Root itself... or rather they can use the Root in order to allow them to see the death of all things. "If you want, I'll do my best to make it so you don't need to wear those glasses anymore, and I'll even try to make it so that your eyes won't eventually overpower the effects of any sealing item you attempt to you!"

"You really think you can do it?" Shiki asks you, seems like he doesn't dislike you as much as he might've done before all this nonsense began to happen. Or at the very least he's finally managed to determine that you don't have poor intentions towards either him or Aoko.

You shrug. "Honestly, I won't know until I try, but I have a lot of confidence in my abilities." You walk closer to Shiki and raise your hand to his face before covering his eyes with a hand. He doesn't object to any of it, and you focus, trying to find the connection to the root. If you're going to apply a new concept to Shiki's eyes through this connection, you're going to add the concept of his Mystic Eyes being...

>Singular.
>Divine.
>Perfect.
>Ranged.
>Weak.
>Write-in...
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>>4651988
>>Perfect.
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>>4651988
>>Perfect.
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>>4651988
>Perfect
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>>4651988
>>Perfect.
speaking of Divine, considering that Shirou can't trace divine constructs and we're getting better at this whole Truth thing...
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>>4651988
>Perfect.
I'm fully prepared to witness the unintended side effects of our choice.
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Inb4 Shiki kills anything he is looking at and the effect can't be stostopped.
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>>4651988
>>Perfect.
lets see what the fuck this does
>>4652000
shirou technically can trace divine shit if he knew exactly how they where made and had grail-tier mana, probably, its really not clear.
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>>4652004
thats my fear, but i feel divine will be worse
no fucking idea what the rest would do.
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>>4651988
Well, singular probably means just gouging one and divine is just WhatIs mocking us so those are right out... ranged might be interesting if they allowed him to shoot but won’t fix the brain damage problem... weak might ease the strain in Shiki but will likely leave him with poor eyesight...

Perfect, as in complete and not developing, because how would you improve on perfection? - that sound like it might be the right choice. Then again it might kill him outright, but surely perfect pair of eyes would not hurt its owner, right?

Think I’ll go with consensus
>perfect

Wondering though if a concept like “harmonized” wouldn’t work to leave their power to develop in line with what his body could handle
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>>4652006
Yeah he can trace Excalibur for example but doing so kills him, the swords we memory pasted into his mind would kill him if he tries even attempting to trace it, if we can add something to him that lets him not die tracing Divine weapons then he's a forced to be reckoned with

>>4652004
i assume divine is the one where it kills things by looking at it, Balor was the one who had those type of Mystic Eyes
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>>4652013
I wonder if Shirou dojo’d himself trying to trace the slash emperor in his free time.
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>>4651988
>Divine
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30 minute call.
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I'm going to throw ideas.
>Heal
Mystic eyes of healing; shiki is a surgeon now.
>Generate
Eyes generate life energy through connections to the root.
>Polyphemus
Son of Poseidon, Shiki is now a demi god.
>Odin
Turns one eye into the eye of wisdom.

I'm guessing we may change shiki's existance into something else through his connection to the root.
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>>4652016
I would not be surprised honestly
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>>4651988
>「 」
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>>4652019
Shinji can't use individuals as concepts, healing might be fine but we already fill that job, generation might make the backlash worse.
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>>4652019
technically couldn't SHIKI do the healing thing? he has Mystic Eyes of Life and he's immortal, he should technically be able to give his life force to others and he'd never run out of it
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>>4652016
we should ask taiga next bad end
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>perfect eyes
>shiki now sees the death of everything. E V E R Y T H I N G
>what's this big line on the ground
>pokes it

The world splits in half.
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so like... is he the next Grand Assassin now?
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>>4652057
No. To be a grand, he'd need to be summoned by the World itself for starters, and he isn't.
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>>4652048
>assuming Taiga's going to be there after what Altrouge has done to her
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>>4652072
How would Altrouge know our relation to Taiga though?
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>>4652069
also the only possible grand assassin is the first hassan.
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>>4652111
he gave up his place as a Grand to be summoned in Babylonia, so now it's possible to actually have another one
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>>4652108
how would she know our relation to Sacchin? She's keeping tabs on us
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>>4652108
>>4652117
Sacchin was telling everyone she was our girlfriend. Taiga doesn't go wandering around telling everybody she knows us iirc.
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>>4652123
yeah but we hangout with Shirou a fair bit and Taiga is basically his surrogate mother. Altrouge can put 2 and 2 together
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>>4652114
i mean, its said that the only one that could ever be the grand assassin is him, so its unclear what the world will do if it needs to summon the grand assassin again.
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>>4652148
Cain if he ever died
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>>4652152
That reminds me we have yet to conclude investigations on that guy who was murdering brothers.
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>>4652154
indeed.
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>>4652154
I too am excited to get strangled by loose plot threads.
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>>4652166
Let's hope we can keep up with them. Wouldn't want Tamamo to grow too many tails. I'm already pretty sure she'll have at least an extra one by time we meet her again.
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>>4652197
We're going to be flying back to Fuyuki when we notice that the sunrise has two suns.
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>>4651988
>>Perfect.
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>>4652335
based threehourslate poster
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Perfection. That's what you'll apply to Shiki's eyes. If you were to make his eyes perfect, then the drawbacks of them destroying his mind with continued usage would be gone as well? After all, nobody could call something that kills its user for the mere act of using it normally perfect, right? You focus. Calming your mind as you begin to call your magical energy forth, directing it into Shiki's eyes and seeking out the connection to the root you know for certain exists within them.

You're going to use up all your magical energy doing this, you realize halfway through drawing upon your circuits, and you frown. Looks like you might actually have to put off going after Rizo and Altrouge tonight after all. What a nuisance. Ah well, it's for a good cause, right? "I am truth given form." The first line.

"I look upon the falsehoods of reality." The second line of your aria has no effect on the process.

"An infinity of lies." As you speak your third line, you think you can see something, it's a connection! It's not as unnatural and corrupting as Roa's is, but it's there!

"Blind to the beyond!" You shout out the fourth line of your aria as you direct your magical energy to surround the connection. It's not a true pathway to the root, yet it's good enough for your purposes, after all, if it receives it's information from the root, then you don't care whether or not the connection is only supposed to go one way, you're going to alter it!

You manifest the concept of perfection upon the pathway, perfecting not just the pathway, but also the eyes connected to it! Of course, you haven't much of an idea just how much of an effect that's going to have on Shiki's eyes beyond the fact that they should theoretically work better now. It was something of a gamble, but you think you succeeded. You didn't have to go all the way like you did with Roa, but even so, the act has once more left you totally drained. While you don't think you're going to fall unconscious, you're certainly not going to be any sort of state to fight until after you've rested.

You move away from Shiki, catching yourself as you stumble, and look at the boy. Who is still blinking as a result of the alteration to your eyes. "What... What do you see Shiki?" The boys eyes don't appear to be currently under the effects of his Mystic Eyes, even though his glasses aren't on right now, yet he still reaches for his glasses as if he were still wearing them.

"N-nothing. The lines are gone!" Shiki sounds terribly happy at no longer having to wear his glasses, though there's one last thing you need to check.
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>>4652356
"Now, Shiki... Can you... try to focus? See if you can see the Lines of Death if you focus on seeing them." You hope you haven't ended up removing his ability to see them entirely. While he shouldn't end up needing them, he might end up having to use them at some point in the future, especially thanks to living in this damn town. At least with Fuyuki the Grail Wars only occur once every fifty or so years under normal circumstances, in Misaki Town you never quite know when a vampire is going to show up and cause some disaster.

As he focuses upon doing so, his eyes change to a shining blue color, and he falls backwards in surprise. "T-there are so many more lines than usual! But... it doesn't hurt to look at them?" Shiki's eyes quickly return to their normal shade, and you sigh in relief. Looks like you made the right choice when it came to the application of a concept. Now that Shiki has complete control over his apparently upgraded Mystic Eyes of Death Perception, he'll never need to blindfold himself.

"Great!" Aoko and Touko are just watching you with bewildered expressions. Of course, Touko was the one that suggested you use connections to the Root to your advantage in the first place, but even she seems to be unnerved by the casual use of your magic. "Now you won't have to wear those glasses anymore if you don't want to."

The atmosphere in the room feels really kind of awkward, as it seems that nobody really has any idea what to say to each other to keep the conversation going. Shiki is of course thankful for your help, but you start to tune out of the conversation, you feel... strange. Like you've continued to look at something you weren't supposed to. Flashes of knowledge that don't belong in your mind occur and then disappear, and you suddenly start to feel sleepy. It's not because you used all your energy though, there's... something strange happening. You allow yourself to close your eyelids for a single moment, and you drift off to sleep.
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You awaken on a cold stone floor, and a quick glance at your body tells you that you're still dreaming. You look around the place you've found yourself in, and you quickly realize that you're in a cave, though it's lit by burning torches. Just... where the hell are you supposed to be right now? You continue to look around the cave to try to figure something out, and you end up finding three possible exits, each more grotesque than the last. First, a door with blood seeping underneath it, a bad start. Next is a door that seems to be made out of pulsing flesh, it's shape vaguely reminiscent of smiling faces, and one last door... it's more of an outline in the shape of a door, actually. Like a crack in reality turned into an ajar door. You have no idea just what awaits you in either of the doors, but you doubt that you're going to be allowed to wake up if you just sit and do nothing.

>Check out the bloodstained door.
>Check out the pulsing fleshy door.
>Check out the crack in reality door.
>Sit and do nothing.
>Write-in...
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>>4652362
>Check out the crack in reality door.
Seems like the most interesting, and if I'm right about the flesh door we probably don't want to look at it.
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>>4652362
>>Check out the crack in reality door.
Aww shiet. Is our "messing with Root connections" gonna get us True Magic now?

Y'know this Misaki town arc feels like how when you're too underleveled for a quest in RPG's, so you go back and do all the side-quests to level up but you did too many of them and now you Stomp the final boss.

We're not at Final Boss Stomping level just yet, but it feels like we're on our way there.
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>>4652362
>Check out the crack in reality door.

Whilst all three doors are interesting. This one is probably the most intriguing. Let’s investigate this, perhaps by some miracle it could lead us to our allies (rider, bazzet, lancer, medea, monica, etc). GRANTED I have very VERY high doubts about that. But its not impossible.
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>>4652362
>>Check out the crack in reality door.
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>>4652362
>>Check out the crack in reality door.
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>>4652389
It's more like you accidentally stepped into a secret area meant for your second playthrough.
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>>4652389
Our powers are essentially in the realm of True Magic and almost close to just being labeled as that, we hopped into another universe which is in the realm of the 2nd Magic, we did some soul fuckery to not only fuse with Shinji's soul but drastically improve the innate talent he had and then there's the fact that we can just rewrite reality
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Thirty minutes.
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>>4652389
Tbf this would’ve been a stomp if half our friends weren't sealed by Manaka, Archer has Anti Vampire NPs and is at his best when he can snipe, Medea can teleport us around and it would’ve saved us A LOT of trouble and Lancer would be the perfect scout. The only problem is getting back with a fully formed Reality Marble which goes along with what Manaka wanted in the first place
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>>4652442
>Tbf this would’ve been a stomp if-
Doesn't matter, its never going to be that easy.
You can be as strong as you want but there's always going to things that can take you out.
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>>4652458
QM does sometimes give us the option to stomp, if we stuck with Aoko Zouken would’ve died a decade early, if we didn't choose Arc when we were fighting Berserker or choose Sakura when we were fighting Nrvnqsr it would’ve been a long drawn out match
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>>4652362
>>Check out the crack in reality door.
thanks god we didnt fuck shiki up
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>Check out the crack in reality door.
Nothing ventured, nothing gained. And I don't want to visit betty right now.
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>>4652362
Check out the pulsing fleshy door
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It's called, right?
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>>4652515
well he said 30 minutes an hour ago so yeah
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You know, for as much as it unnerves you, you feel like you want to open up the door that looks like a crack in reality more than you want to go after the pulsing door or the bloody door. Those other two scream danger, while this door... well, you're registering it as something horribly wrong, but at the same time, you aren't exactly fearful of what might lie beyond it.

You sigh as you move towards the ajar door, and upon pulling it open all the way, you can see nothing but a void of white... up until a hand, as white and featureless as the void itself, grabs a hold of you and forcibly pulls you inside! You're caught completely off guard by the action, and end up going entirely into the door.

You fall, as an entire world begins to materialize around you.

You hit the floor, though there is no pain.

You look around, finding yourself on a bustling pavement in the middle of a busy city you don't recognize. Just... what the hell is going on?

"You're probably wondering what's going on, right?" One of the passers-by suddenly speaks to you as he walks past you, chuckling. "Sorry, It's just that we don't often get to do that." Another of the passers-by laughs as they disappear into the distance, the voice is the same as it was the first time, despite the different source. "You just can't hold a decent conversation with yourself, you know?" This time the voice comes from a child with a balloon.

"Is this... some kind of dream?" You check your body, it... feels real enough.

"Yes... and no." One of the bystanders speaks, a businesswoman, who stands still in order to speak this time. "While we've been attempting to speak with you for some time now, we always found our efforts being blocked, whether it be from the manipulations of the Girl or a whim of the Dreamer, we have been unable to directly reach you until now... But we have been watching." The form of the woman begins to shift as she speaks. "through Sakura." The entity turns into your sister. "Through Rin." It turns into Rin this time, and you very quickly realize just what you're up against. "Through-"

"Enough! You've made your point perfectly clear as to what you are... Alaya." The entity in Rin's form doesn't act to correct you as you guess just what it is. "If you couldn't contact me, would you mind explaining what this all is?"
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"Oh, it's just a localized reconstruction of a city, you probably wouldn't care which. What you probably wanted to know is how we brought you here, and that one has quite a simple answer." The entity in Rin's body shifts once again, this time it becomes a mass of white energy in a vaguely human shape. "We couldn't simply allow you to endanger the entire planet, and more importantly, humanity, through your continued access of the Root... so we had to..." The humanoid chuckles. "Get a little forceful." The humanoid figure points to its head. "Right now, we're possessing your body." You tense up. "But not controlling it, no. We feel like if we tried it might end up going poorly for all of us. This direct form of control was simply the only means we had left of speaking with you, and we're honestly quite impressed. Against any 'human', if we attempted to possess them, they would lose all of their individuality in a single instant, yet not you..." The humanoid suddenly turns its back to you as it looks up at the sky. "But hey, look on the bright side! At least you didn't allow yourself to get possessed by the Dreamer or become a puppet for the Girl!"

"So what... you bring me here to tell me that I'm not allowed to mess with the Root anymore? Why don't you just kill me if you're that bothered about it?" You are genuinely curious.

"We were happy to overlook your first alteration of the Root, as we deemed it beneficial to humanity, but the second seemed to be entirely on a whim! As for why we don't just kill you?" The formless humanoid begins to laugh. "Because you're an asset. Your true form might be that of some inter-dimensional universe destroying god or something, but you believe that you're a human."

"Are you saying I'm not?" You question the eccentric being, which stops laughing.

"Well... are you? Why don't you come out and tell us exactly what you are, all cards on the table... 'Shinji'." You really weren't expecting the subconscious will of humanity to be so forceful, but you can't really blame it.

>"Yes, I'm a human."
>"No, I'm not a human."
>Write-in???
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>>4652550
>"Yes, I'm a human."
>"More than anyone, actually."
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>>4652550
>"Yes, I'm a human."
simple as
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>>4652561
Supporting that.
We are the only real human in this whole world.
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>>4652550
Supporting >>4652561
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>>4652550
"No, I'm not a human."
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>>4652561
+1
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>>4652561
Supporting.
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So the other two doors would lead us to Manaka and Azathot?
Smiley faces on the flesh door was for Manaka I guess and dripping blood door was for Azathot.
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>>4652550
>>4652561
+1
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>>4652561
Support.
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We really should think if we could remove emiya's contract with Alaya later, just to annoy her.
fucking bitch
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>"Yes, I'm a human."
>"I'm just a higher form of humanity."
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>"Yes, I'm a human."
>"I'm just a higher form of humanity."
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Seriously what's this bitch mad about?
It's not like we broke anything important.
We just modified Shiki's eyes a little.
Big fucking deal.
She doesn't do anything about Roa for centuries but the moment we do some harmless modification she gets all pissy.
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>>4652599
We should negotiate a better contract for our retarded friend in her employ, yes.
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>>4652627
we keep messing with the Root, you don't just do that
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>>4652627
Alaya's entire reason for existence is to throw an autistic shitfit whenever anything cool happens.
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>>4652550
>>4652561
This is a great answer.
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Alaya is humanity's counter force anad Tanaka is earth's counter force. Tanaka has bigger assets than alaya.
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>>4652550
>>4652561
This.
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>>4652550
>”Yes, I’m a human.”

No lies on our part, really.
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>>4652550
>"Yes, I'm a human."
>"More than anyone, actually."
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>>4652665
Tanaka only exists because the situation needed something human to exist possibly and even then people arent really sure why Tanaka is in a human form as gaia's counterforce/gaia itself.
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>>4652665
Well Gaia's best weapon was Type Moon which was killed by Zelretch and switched over to Arcueid who goes DAA hunting. Alaya's best weapon are Grand Servants but Alaya being Alaya is always BARELY enough to get the job
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>>4652720
Alaya's best weapon is deleting realities it doesn't like.
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"Yes, I'm a human... More than anyone, actually." You smirk. The collective consciousness of mankind for all of it's intelligence, being a conglomerate of every mind on the planet, is also a collective of all of the stupidity of humanity as well, an idiot with the calculation power of the human species, good grief. It's no wonder it relies on Counter Guardians to solve its problems.

"Pardon?" The avatar of Alaya pauses.

"Did you mishear me? I thought I was quite clear in what I said. There is nobody in this entire universe who is more human than I am." You point at your own chest. "I am not just a human, I am the definitive human!"

"B-but you aren't a human! I can see that clearly!" Alaya shouts loudly at you, and you just smile as you successfully manage to cause the collective subconscious of humanity itself to get angry.

"Can you? Or can you only see that which you can't perceive as human? What happened to me being an asset, anyway? You trying to convince me I'm not a human now? Hell, if I wasn't a human, how did you possess my body?" At this point you think that this conversation has started to go south...

"That's because you have a human body, Outsider!" Alaya shifts to take on your form... or rather the form you had when you were eight years old.

"A human soul and a human mind too, would you believe it? Though I have to disagree with you about one thing, my body is the least human thing about me." You flick the eight year old version of yourself on his forehead and cause Alaya to flinch backwards in shock.

"Why... Why do you believe yourself to be a human so?" A defeated sounding Alaya sighs.

"I'm going to tell you a secret, Alaya, so you better keep it to yourself." You stare down at the younger version of yourself and yawn. "Before I was taken here by some force that has yet to make itself known to me, I was an ordinary human, living an ordinary human life, in a world without magecraft or mystery, without Types and Beasts... A simple, normal world. Where Humanity reigned truly supreme, in concept, our two worlds are similar... your world actually being a copy of mine, with a few alterations, but as you can tell, my powers as a human from... let's call it an upper dimension, shall we? My powers as a human from the upper dimension allow me to quite literally break the rules of this world." In practice, that's what your ability to manipulate Truth is, an ability to cheat the rules of reality manifesting through the body you inhabit.

"A world where... humans are truly supreme?" Alaya looks at you, trying to determine whether or not you could be lying. "But... then... what could've brought you here then, if humans were supreme in the world above this one?" Alaya sounds worried now.

You shrug. "God maybe? I never claimed to know everything. As far as I know, my world might just be a single rank higher than your own on some impossible to understand cosmic hierarchy."
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"Fine, I'll accept that you're a human under those parameters then. A greater form of human than any other that exists, as you put it. I'm... pleasantly surprised by this news, actually. I had always been laboring under the impression that you were merely acting. But to know this..." The avatar starts sporadically and erratically changing forms as it laughs. "To know that Humanity will always prevail, even should we be eradicated..." It wipes a tear from its eye. "I want you to form a contract with me, and no. Not as a Counter Guardian or something like that... I'm thinking something more along the lines of... Well, how does 'the Beast of Alaya' sound to you? You don't have to accept of course, but if you did it would give the both of us a lot more freedom to act. I'll even offer to grant you a single wish, so long as it's within my power, if you accept my offer."

>"Tell me more about what you would actually expect me to do as this so called Beast of Alaya."
>"Yeah... no."
>"Fine, I accept your offer, what I want is (Write-in...)
>"Can I think on it and come back later?"
>Write-in...
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>>4652726
Always also can’t even do that until the current humanity has reached a dead end state, so Alaya is pathetically limited on that specific.

>>4652720
Also, Grand servants don’t individually take on the Beast classes and have always seemed to require the help of other servants and forces to actually do that job.
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>>4652743
>Beast of Alaya
>Beast
Nope. No. Absolutely fucking not. Anything with Beast in the title has always been fucked in one sense or another in the nasuverse.

If we accept anything we don’t accept that Beast title. Nasuverse runs on conceptuals and nuances so even if it’s just the word, it’s still bad news.
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>>4652743
>>"Tell me more about what you would actually expect me to do as this so called Beast of Alaya."
Its happening
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>>4652743
>>"Tell me more about what you would actually expect me to do as this so called Beast of Alaya."
>>Write-in...
However, I know how contracts with you usually end up. I also know how wishes here usually end up. Like the contract and wish my retarded friend made that put him in your employ.

Like, try to get across that we're willing to help Alaya, but we know how it's contracts and wishes turn out thanks to EMIYA. Try to either keep it a no-contract friendship, if we do enter a contract I want it max jewed in our favor.
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>>4652755
I don't trust her in any contract.
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>>4652753
Not exactly, We retained our individuality despite Alaya possessing us. I figure that holding the mantle of beast would mean we've got to save the word PLUS we've got the counter-force of humanity empowering us in our duties. Like touko our abilities don't manifest unless we are undergoing a mission. IF our power isn't conditional; Great. If not then it just makes our job easier to protect humanity. F/GO interaction becomes possible.

>>"Tell me more about what you would actually expect me to do as this so called Beast of Alaya."
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>>4652758
You shouldn’t. The last Beast of Alaya got up to some fucked up shit, and it all went kinda poorly for everyone.
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>>4652743
"Fine, I accept your offer, what I want is for the homunculi to not have their lives shortened. They are not toys to just be discarded when others see fit.
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>>4652743
>"Yeah... no."
Maybe we should ask Emiya how fun working for Ayala is.
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>"Tell me more about what you would actually expect me to do as this so called Beast of Alaya."

Before rejecting or accepting I would like to know what the contract contains. Also would it limit Shinji's potential abilities or enhance them?Do we throw away a chance in getting true magic?

Trump card vs Manaka?
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>>4652763
thats a bad wish, its something that we could do ourselves
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There are 2 big choices we can make off the top of my head, one is to have Alaya rip up their contract with EMIYA, the other is to turn Satsuki human again.

I have no interest in taking the deal either way, feels like how on the /a/ threads, we came up with the drawback that Shinji would completely depersonalize and eventually stop caring about any of his friends and view the world as a fictional place to be played with at worst or to not care about at best and that feels like a fast track to this
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>>4652761
If shit goes south we can just use truth on ourselves to cheat out of the contract through a loop hole. I wouldn't think Alaya is being malicious nor is trying to constrain us. I think she's just directing us to humanities enemies and as a anti-virus we react against those dangers. What may concern me is our agency of tackling threats to humanity. Only US retaining full agency to save humanity even if we fail and it kills use. Will Alaya allow us to fail?
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>>4652763
>>4652766
Don't make infinity contracts with gods to solve you immediate problems.
You might as well as Alaya to make us a sandwich at that point.
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>>4652743
>"Tell me more about what you would actually expect me to do as this so called Beast of Alaya."
I'm thinking no, but I'd like to know more.
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>>4652771
K I'll change
>>4652763
Change to sure if you make me a turkey and Swiss sandwich.
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>>4652771
*your
*ask
mangling my posts tonight
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>>4652743
>"Tell me more about what you would actually expect me to do as this so called Beast of Alaya."
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>>4652771
Hey this may be an easier way to interact with Zelretch considering that we're going to be in different timelines. Epilogue shinji is going to be wild.
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>>4652743
>"Tell me more about what you would actually expect me to do as this so called Beast of Alaya."
I going to vote for no regardless, but i'm curious about what she wants.
>>4652766
do you seriously believe she would tell the whole story?
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>>4652743
when will this be called btw
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>>4652779
Epilogue Shinji is gonna own a fucking country and have 5 wives
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>>4652740
>B-but you aren't a human! I can see that clearly!
what do you think she saw?
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After looking at the previous Beast of Alaya it seems like Alaya gave the guy too much freedom. It doesn't seem like the contract has any limits but advance humanity. He does some crazy stuff that I'm pretty sure Alaya wouldn't have let fly otherwise. Like turning himself into a dead apostle.
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>>4652786
Where can I find info about the previous Beast of Alaya? Google doesn't bring up anything.
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>>4652783
Epilogue Shinji has Ayala on contract to HIM.
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>>4652786
>>4652790
yeah i can't find anything on it either
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>>4652743
>>"Tell me more about what you would actually expect me to do as this so called Beast of Alaya."
There is no way I am going to vote for this contract.
I trust Alaya no more than I trust Nyarlathotep.
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>>4652790
>>4652792
https://tmfatefanon.fandom.com/wiki/Beast_(Fate/Axiom_~_The_Beast_of_Alaya)
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>>4652795
anon...
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>>4652795
That's fanon, man.
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>>4652795
Oh dear.

>>4652781
When I wake up.
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>>4652798
>>4652797
Sorry I am dumb.
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>>4652805
>confusing type moon canon with actual fanfiction
Happens to the best of us, anon.
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>>4652793
All you guys distrusting Alaya but she/he has never lied. It's just people not clearify what is meant. Saber wanted a shot at the grail, Shiro wanted to be a hero. She straight up told them you'll be counter guardians. Both of them never bothered asking what that meant and went off assumptions or desperation. It's not her fault if they never asked.

From the wiki with the beast of Alaya it seems like he was doing his own thing plus supporting human growth. If I'm wrong about that correct me because I'm getting this from a wiki walk.
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>>4652805
Don't worry I'm dumb too I mistaked it lol!!
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Solomon is technically a beast class and a grand servant. It fits.
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>>4652818
Not distrustful, disinterested.
Serving the "will of humanity " isn't something Shinji is in interested in, as he is wholly invested in individuals over the collective.
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>>4652818
It doesn't matter what terms she is offering. If we agree to a contract with her we will lose a part of our agency.
Right now we are free to do whatever we want. Our choices are our own.
But the moment we agree to a contract we are going to have to think "Is this against the terms of our contract? Would Alaya be against this?" every time we do something.
A contract like this is limiting to our quest experience in the same way as hostages that Manaka took.
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>>4652838
The difference of manaka and Alaya's circumstances is that Manaka is just a little girl with too much power and Alaya is the subconcious of humanity, the counter force. I don't think either situation correlates in the agency department. Alaya does something because it's in humanity's best interest, manaka does something on a whim.
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>>4652838
Anon you make a very good point about the quest experience. I simply distrust Alaya out of principle, but I'd have to agree that entering a contract with Alaya would just add in unnecessary factors into our decision-making as quest goers.
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>>4652818
I like my free will to do shit without having to talk first to someone.
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>>4652842
humanity's best interest may not be what we wish to do, like killing a lot of people like emiya.
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>>4652743
Changing my vote from >>4652793
to
>>"Yeah... no."
There is nothing she can offer that would make limiting our freedom of choice worth it.
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>>4652743
>>"Tell me more about what you would actually expect me to do as this so called Beast of Alaya."
>>4652838
They did say it'll give both of us more freedom so if that means we get to fuck around with the Root then I'm all for it.
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>>4652842
Always is an aspect of the human unconscious and can act as irresponsibly and mercurially as any human.
Mainly, it's a "counter force" that deals with "threats".
These threats are just powerful things that Alaya has determined could act against humanity, and could include people we care about.
The point is that you shouldn't expect Ayala to be an ominbenevolent goddess.
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>>4652865
*Alaya
That's it, no more late night phone posting for me.
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>>4652743
>explain further

but ultimately likely gonna be a no. Imagine willingly becoming an eternal jannie
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>>4652743
>"Tell me more about what you would actually expect me to do as this so called Beast of Alaya."
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>>4652743
>>4652780
change my vote to
>>"Yeah... no."
>"Look, i'm really want a at least cordial relationship between us, lets just be friends or something, you can ask me to do something but without any contracts and i can say no"
>"i am on the side of humanity just like you, i just don't want to be struck being ordered without choice."
I just don't trust her to just not lie or not tell the whole truth.
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>>4652859
More freedom sure. As long as we are an obedient doggy and do what Alaya wants us to do.
What do you think is going to happen when our opinion differs from hers?
In the best case scenario she is going to return us to our current level where she can melt us into a puddle on a whim.
In the worst case she'll just enforce some fine print bullshit in our contract making us obey regardless of our wishes.
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>>4652853
Emiya's ideals are flawed inherently by his contradictory hypocritical understanding of what a hero was. What it led to was fighting sand people in syria. What humanity wants is flawed inherently in it being human. What humanity needs is what we'll be providing as we hold agency thus can direct the consensus of humanity what it needs and eventually want it wants. Then again we are as human and as flawed as humanity so really wither we are a net good or a net bad could only be quantified by our actions. And thus far we've been a net good by doing good albeit for our own reasons. We're a healer, we solve problems and we kill evil. It's as simple as that.

Here's some context videos on Emiya, Kinda gay but oh well.
https://youtu.be/t3dIokufs0M
https://youtu.be/za8Pt6SvXww
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>>4652883
>What humanity needs is what we'll be providing as we hold agency thus can direct the consensus of humanity what it needs and eventually want it wants.
Imagine believing that an almost omnipotent creature is goin to listen to our preaching especially after we've already entered a contract with it.
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>>4652743
>"Tell me more about what you would actually expect me to do as this so called Beast of Alaya."
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>>4652896
First of all she's an idiot, second all of she just did. We called ourselves a human despite what alaya's avatar said. Don't be so pessimistic about alaya, we just need to tard wrangle her not because we know better but because we have common sense. Because we are mortal we have a perspective that isn't like her own plus with our hidden outside context knowledge she may want to seek our console. From what I saw of Alaya she isn't a tyrant anyways.
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>>4652883
alaya is more flawed than any human.
doing any contract with her is stupid, we don't need her.
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>>4652911
We may not need her but having a power boost may be nice for a job we are already going to do. That and with alaya's connection with humanity she may provide nice information on preventing a calamity. Hint hint nudge nudge.
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>>4652915
its not a worth trade for our freedom to act as we wish.
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>>4652910
Why would she listen to us? She doesn't see us as an equal she sees us as an asset. A tool at her beck and call that she is going to use to fix her problems.
Shepherd is not going to ask a sheep for it's opinion.
>she isn't a tyrant anyways
Yeah, sure. She just does what she wants without thinking of other's interest. A luxury that we have and that you want to give away.

>4652915
Trading away our freedom of choice for a conditional power boost is not worth it.
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Considering that we are going against her enemies such as Beasts anyway couldn't she just get off our back and let us use our magic in peace instead of this contract shit?
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>>4652743
>>"Yeah... no."
I don't mind to be her ally but I have no desire to be her Beast.
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>>4652743
>"Tell me more about what you would actually expect me to do as this so called Beast of Alaya."
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>>4652743
>"Tell me more about what you would actually expect me to do as this so called Beast of Alaya."
No reason no to at least ask about details.
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>>4652743
>"Tell me more about what you would actually expect me to do as this so called Beast of Alaya."
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>>4652743
>what do you have in mind with that contract?

What I’m worried about is taking this on would irrevocably pit us against those of our friends who are aligned with Gaia.

And I think we should tell as much Alaya as well. We want to be on good terms with her, but if we could help her get along with the other force, even better.
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>>4652743
Also I’d like to vote to hug Alaya.

I think she could use it even if it’s from an outsider like us.
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Been off the board for a while, just wanted to stop by and say I'm glad to see you're still writing, What. I always liked your stuff. Hope everything goes well for you.
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So now that we know three major players behind the scene: Alaya, Azathoth and Manaka.
We knew that Manaka wants after showdown at the temple and now we seen Alaya`s interests.
Now we know that our dreams meant with
>...you are watching a world that seems to be dissolving away into nothingness
>...a humanoid figure stares at you as its body constantly shifts into different shapes.
>...A seed born of nothing sprouts into a sprawling forest, crawling with life.
From the first thread and further.
And WhatIs did mentioned that choosing Betty at the temple boosted some important off screen relationship.
Which leaves Azathoth as the only side with which we did not properly interacted with apart from small talk with Nyarly and probably recent dream which spooked Len.
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I wouldn't mind being in the Alaya faction if the alternative was Manaka and azaroth. Who knows if through betty we may acquire a liason to azaroth, but manaka is a psycho. Peraps using truth we may be able to save her sanity like how we erased Roa but right now we must focus on the tangables within our ability.
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>>4653054
>I wouldn't mind being in the Alaya faction
It doesn't want to form a faction. It wants us to be it's dog
>save her sanity
What are you talking about? Alaya is completely sane. It's just a bitch.
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>>4653045
So what we have here is a rare case of a double layered harem.
On the first layer there are all kinds of girls who desire Shinji.
On the second layer there are the Counter Force, the head of eldritch pantheon and a Beast all of whom desire to use Shinji for something.
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>>4653058
>What are you talking about? Alaya is completely sane. It's just a bitch.
He is talking about restoring Manaka's sanity. Maybe by closing off her connection to the Root.
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>>4653067
>the Counter Force, the head of eldritch pantheon and a Beast
Forget about all three of them and try to form a connection with the Abrahamic God.
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>>4653069
Oh yes. Secret Caren route.
>>4653067
It is a bit funny that Gaia is just watching from the side but has best pieces on board. And how we know what Arc meant with:
>She then smiles at you. "You may not be wholly a human, but so long as you believe yourself to be one, I don't think you'll ever fall to darkness. Remember that, Shinji." W-where's this coming from?
Outer Gods really fucked it up by not sending a waifu.
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>>4653080
Oh shit! Does it mean that Arcueid is going to be pissed at Shinji if we agree to this contract?
Another reason to refuse.
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>>4653102
We now also have question of newly minted Beast 2.
Listening to Alaya`s intentions, stating our own and going unbidden by contracts is probably the safest path.
It is not like Shinji has any real intentions to actively fuck with the world apart from playing with Root if situation call for it.
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>>4653127
Yeah that's what I am saying. We are already fighting against threats to the humanity. She should just let us do our thing without fucking us whenever we try to use our magic. No need for a contract.
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>>4653058
You really dislike Alaya huh? I think it's fair enough if we hear what she's offering at least though, not like she's a machiavellian mastermind pulling strings for our supposed downfall.
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>>4653141
Remember when we gave shuten divinity? It was a different timeline however thats the only example when our truth caused calamity. It was just a drink. Sorry for the double post and night.
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>>4653127
Yeah, it's not like good endings for those we care about could work if the world's civilization, or the planet, got fucked up in any way.
Especially if one of those we care about has "protect everyone" as his personal priority.
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>>4653154
What reason do I have to like it? What did it do for us ever? And now it wants us to do it's dirty work.
I am not about to simp for the thing first time we meet.
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>>4653160
>What did it do for us ever?
Nothing. She didn't help but didn't fuck us over either. She wanted to meet us first and now is offering a contract. It's safe to listen first to what the offer is and she wants from us before deciding to tell her to fuck off or not.
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>>4653194
I am not sure what are you trying to persuade me of. The vote to listen to it has already won. I don't have a power to veto it.
I see no reason to listen to Alaya since it doesn't matter what terms it is offering. Any contract with it will be limiting to us and our questing. If we were to agree then every time we were presented with a choice we would have to make sure not to anger our new boss.
I prefer freedom of choice over a power boost no matter how nice it can be.
Also "It didn't fuck us over" is not a good reason to like someone.
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I wonder what would have happened if we were to enter Azathot's door.
Would we actually talk to him? Somehow I find it hard to imagine.
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>>4653272
Maybe we would have talked to Nyarly or a more lucid Betty.
Both could be considered voices of the Dreamer.
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>>4653275
Isn't everything his voice?
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>>4653311
Everything is the weird dream he has before he falls out of bed.
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>>4653194
I'm pretty sure Alaya is subtle unless things go so far off rails she needs to summon a counter guardian.
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>>4653371
I like quarter pounders better
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"Tell me more about what you would actually expect me to do as this so called Beast of Alaya." You must admit that you are at least a little bit intrigued by Alaya's offer, though you know better than to trust the entity without knowing just what the specifics of a contract with it will entail, EMIYA is solid enough proof that the life of a counter guardian is a hellish one... Though really, it depends on just what sort of a person you are before you agree to a contract with Alaya. For somebody like Saber or Shirou, becoming Counter Guardians and being forced to kill for Alaya forever would destroy them. Their personalities just wouldn't fit the role, however, somebody like Kotomine if he were to be a Counter Guardian could likely just act without emotion as one of Alaya's Counter Guardians for an indefinite period of time.

"Nothing as extreme as what I have the Counter Guardians do, I can assure you." Alaya shrugs, returning to its humanoid shape once more. "Whereas those are a last resort option in order to prevent calamity from befalling the human race like a surgical strike, you would act more as a... what's the best word... a nuclear deterrent? Perhaps that would be the best way to explain it, a nuclear deterrent to those that do not fear my Counter Guardians and Grand Servants."

"In... what way?" Being a living embodiment of the concept of Mutually Assured Destruction... doesn't actually sound great.

"Well, it wouldn't be a literal example, and our contract would really only come into play should humanity be put in danger from a threat beyond what my Counter Guardians and Grand Servants are capable of dealing with." Alaya is missing one key aspect of it's power there, and easily its greatest power of all, at that.

"And your ability to prune the timeline?" Why would Alaya need the Grand Servants and the Counter Guardians if it had such powers? Couldn't it just erase anything that happened if it didn't like it?

"Ahaha..." Alaya laughs a little awkwardly. "You see, that only really works through a combination of the power of the Alaya that exist within the timelines that have yet to branch off. We are capable of putting an end to the actions taken by all of the humans in any particular branch... but only the actions of humans. If the end of humanity were to be brought about by some force that wasn't of human origin, such means would simply do nothing to stop the greater threat, and it would simply reoccur at the same moment in time that the branch it was within was purged in the preceding branch... Independent Manifestation. This is why Beasts and those more powerful than them are such a threat to humanity." Ah, that makes at least some sort of sense. So in some branches, is Alaya forced to permit the destruction of humanity out of fear that an attempt to erase the timeline would allow the cause of humanity's end to leap to another branch?
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"Right, well you still haven't told me of my duties yet." The job doesn't actually sound terrible, but until you have all the details, you aren't just going to leap at the chance to become Alaya's Beast.

"Oh, well as my Beast and my greatest warrior, it would be your duty to destroy threats to humanity should they prove themselves an immediate threat." Alaya's voice is calm as she tells you of what your duties would entail.

"An... immediate threat? Why not just have them destroyed immediately?" Why wait if it knows that there is even a chance that something could end up destroying humanity? Wouldn't it be better to just crush the threat immediately?

"Because if I did, then we wouldn't be speaking to each other right now." Alaya's voice is serious, and reminds you just how much power the entity actually has, you might have the spirit and mind of an upper dimensional human, but when it comes to pure power, Alaya has you outmatched by a scale of a few million, at least right now. "But... it wouldn't be much of an attracting offer if I were to just tell you that I wanted you to take on the most powerful beings that threaten humanity without compensation, the wish aside..." Alaya pauses in thought. "Alright, how about this! I won't interrupt your life and force you to visit other branches unless you agree to do so for that particular branch if calamity might occur within it!"

"Are there any other benefits that would actually... you know... help me defeat a threat to humanity?" As you are right now, you wouldn't last five seconds against a Beast!

"Of course! It wouldn't be applied at all times, but should you face against something designated as an Imminent or Malicious Threat to Humanity, you would gain access to my unlimited supply of magical energy, as well as, should it be required, back-up that will place your physical abilities at one rank higher than that of your opponent."

"Even if I disagree, what about the versions of me in other timelines? Won't you be able to get at least one of them to accept the offer eventually?" Isn't your choice here meaningless? You could either choose to be the version of yourself to accept, or you could choose to be the version who didn't. Something like the illusion of choice, right?

"Maybe, if we weren't in the unbranching timeline." Alaya sounds annoyed.

"I'm sorry, what?" That gives you pause for thought. The timeline you're in is unbranching? What does that even mean?
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"This timeline, it was split off of the origin point for humanity, and seems to have taken aspects from many other branches and forced them to fit together, you could call it a broken timeline if you wanted, as somewhere within this branch there will be an entity that is incapable of being copied through the splitting of a timeline, and therefore, only the decisions made by that particular entity are capable of actually being decisions. You are the cause of that, in case you didn't gather." Oh... You have no idea how to respond to that. "I think I've told you enough of what your duties and the benefits you will receive will be if you accept my offer. So please, accept my request, become the defender of humanity."

>"Fine, as for that wish you offered me? I want...(Write-in)"
>"Fine, as for that wish? I'll take it later, I don't know what I want yet.
>"No thanks, while your offer is tempting, I'd rather not be responsible for dealing with Beasts.
>"Let me get back to you on that one when I've had time to think about it, alright?"
>Write-in...
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>>4653424
>"No thanks, while your offer is tempting, I'd rather not be responsible for dealing with Beasts.
nah
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>>4653424
>"No thanks, while your offer is tempting, I'd rather not be responsible for dealing with Beasts.
NO WAY FAG
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>>4653424
Now thats add a nice perspective to Zelretch`s letter in >>4626362
Especially about this bit
>both Gaia and Alaya have a strong desire to prevent me from meeting you
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>>4653424
>>"Let me get back to you on that one when I've had time to think about it, alright?"
>>Write-in...
>However considering the fact that I am already fighting for the preservation of humanity against the Beasts couldn't you give me more leeway when it comes to using my magic? At least for the time of war?
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>>4653424
"Fine, as for that wish? I'll take it later, I don't know what I want yet
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>>4653424
>>"Let me get back to you on that one when I've had time to think about it, alright?"
I think we should keep it in our back pocket for now
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>>4653424
>"No thanks, while your offer is tempting, I'd rather not be responsible for dealing with Beasts.
>Write-in...
>However considering the fact that I am already fighting for the preservation of humanity against interdimensional beings and vampires couldn't you give me more leeway when it comes to using my magic? At least for the time of war?
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>>4653424
>"Let me get back to you on that one when I've had time to think about it, alright?"
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>>4653460
It's very limited power.
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>>4653424
>>"No thanks, while your offer is tempting, I'd rather not be responsible for dealing with Beasts.
>>Write-in...
>>However considering the fact that I am already fighting for the preservation of humanity against interdimensional beings and vampires couldn't you give me more leeway when it comes to using my magic? At least for the time of war?
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>>4653462
access to my unlimited supply of magical energy, as well as, should it be required, back-up that will place your physical abilities at one rank higher than that of your opponent
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>>4653424
when will this be called, i need to think about it
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>>4653465
It's one of the most important votes in the entire quests, so I'll say... two hours? Is everyone fine with that?
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>>4653464
Against specific targets designated by Ayala.
It's an overwhelming amount of power with an extremely situational use that just isn't worth becoming Ayala's personal beatstick.
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>>4653467
Im fine with it
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>>4653470
You know the final boss is probably an outer God right?
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>>4653447
>>4653424
Supporting.
I don't want to burn bridges and a little power up would be nice.
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>>4653424

>I'm... very flattered that you would consider me for such a role, and in principle I expect I'll end up acting in line with your interests, but I don't feel like I can accept the enormity of the commitment this would mean with what I currently know.
>I'm especially afraid that if I were to accept, especially now when I'm still exploring my power, if it has the potential you outline, the other forces you'd like to employ me against, might feel pressured into a preemptive strike.
>And I would especially not want my friends to be caught in such a crossfire more than they already are becoming...
>I'll do my best to help protect you without a contract.

>hug Alaya
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>>4653424
>"No thanks, while your offer is tempting, I'd rather not be responsible for dealing with Beasts.
We will defend humanity, it's just that I don't like contracts.
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>>4653475
If it is, I'd still want to deal with it ourselves.
I don't like the idea of achieving anything because Ayala stuck a hose up our ass.
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>>4653424
>>4653447
Could you read the line
"However considering the fact that I am already fighting for the preservation of humanity against the Beasts couldn't you give me more leeway when it comes to using my magic? At least for the time of war?"
as
"However considering the fact that I am already fighting for the preservation of humanity against interdimensional beings and vampires couldn't you give me more leeway when it comes to using my magic? At least for the time of war?"

I am not changing my vote. I just want it to be worded better.
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>>4653467
Given it is pretty important vote do you mind answering this: Is this vote a route lock or will there be more major branching choices?
And is it possible to ask for Hyperbolic Time Chamber training at Throne of Heroes?
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>>4653447
>>4653424
+1
That contract wasn't as bad as I thought.
We can work with it.
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>>4653477
support tentatively, I want to meet zeltrich first. His situation is similar to ours albeit more limited.
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what threats we know of would qualify?
>Angry manjew
>Manakas
>lovecraft stuff

>upgraded Tamamo-no-Mae?

>Tiamat Sakura?
>Arcueid?
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>>4653501
That's quite a few to just refuse this upgrade
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>>4653490
>Is this a route lock.
Depends on what you mean by route lock. It's possible for Grand Servants to discard their status, just as it should be possible for you to discard your status as Beast of Alaya should you not want it.
Basically, it's only the Counter Guardians that get the horrible treatment.

>Is it possible to ask for training at Throne of Heroes.
Sure but you'd also need to kind of uh, die for that.
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>>4653505
I've played enough dcss to know that pumping and dumping a god is a bad idea.
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>>4653505
Here's a very crazy meme question: What would happen if we had sex with Alaya right here and knocked them up?
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>>4653503
On one hand getting bullshit powers to whack what we already know will be a problem around sounds great.
On the other hand, I really don't want to be put into position where we are contractually obligated to fight someone because Alaya decided they need to go, even if we could reliably assume she'd give us enough time to talk them down first.
Plus I'm really afraid that the moment we make the contract the other forces will accelerate their plans because escalation.
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>>4653512
Along the same lines, Shinji refusing the contract might make the other power players de-escalate in relief that Alaya got rejected? Could stabilize things for longer than they are now, give us more time before somebody decides they've had enough and force shit to hit the fan to start playing their cards
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>>4653512
>put into position where we are contractually obligated to fight someone because Alaya decided they need to go
Yeah that's what I am thinking. I wouldn't want to kill someone just cuz Alaya told us to. I want us to decide on our own who to kill and who to spare.
>the moment we make the contract the other forces will accelerate their plans
I think that's a given. Manaka is not going to be as passive as she is now if we make a contract.
Nyarla also might rethink his approach to the war.
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>>4653511
I'm just going to go ahead and say Alaya99/100 though you really really don't want that. Do you have any idea what would happen if the collective form of the thoughts of all of humanity fell in love with somebody?

As for what a potential child born of an upper dimensional being and the collective consciousness of humanity taking a physical form would be like?
Earth would finally have its own Ultimate One.
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>>4653505
Thanks.
That sounds like really bad idea in our case.
And no training arc with pick any skills from all available heroes like some solid cliche shonen so we wake up with memory of extra year of training.
I guess C-Consciousness fully lost me here.
>>4653424
>"No thanks, while your offer is tempting, I'd rather not be responsible for dealing with Beasts.
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>>4653512
I don't think we should say yes or no, I think we just keep it in our back pocket, apparently the contract can be broken and if we're ever in a completely fucked situation, having the contract with one wish and a free power up would be a complete life saver
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>>4653524
Please stop making it sound like a good idea.

however, I'm sticking by the hug.
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>>4653524
>spoilers
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>>4653524
>"Hey, Alaya, how about half of a wish for a bottle of precious bodily fluids"
Marvelous.
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>>4653524
Based as fuck, thanks WhatIs. I'm glad you learned from Elegy of Inheritance. As QM, you still have the right to veto write-ins if you wish, and remember: NEVER INCLUDE AN OPTION YOU DON'T WANT TO WRITE OUT
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>>4653524
Those spoilers sound scary and intriguing at the same time.
If we didn't have a dozen women after us I might have been interested in pursuing this path.
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>>4653424
I'd like to change my vote from >>4653479
to >>4653477
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Screw it.
>>4653424
Switching from >>4653527 to supporting >>4653477
Can we also tell Alaya some spoilers of the future we are aware of while at it?
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>>4653424
>"Fine, as for that wish? I'll take it later, I don't know what I want yet

From what I gather she won't have us fight unless the destruction of humanity becomes imminent. Something that counter guardians and grands can't deal with. She also gave veto rights for other timelines.

Alright, how about this! I won't interrupt your life and force you to visit other branches unless you agree to do so for that particular branch if calamity might occur within it!"
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>>4653524
Needs to happen, needs to be a new Godling
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>>4653424
Switching from this>>4653463
to this >>4653477
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>>4653424
>>4653447
I guess I'll support this.
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>>4653434
>>4653477
In the interest of not splitting the vote I'll switch to this.
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>>4653477
i will +1 this and
>headpat her
>>4653524
We can try breeding her later
yes i want to see what happens
and i want to see how emiya would react to us fucking his boss.
and any choice that has no contract is fine by me, i don't hate alaya i just don't think having a contract with her is a good idea.
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>>4653459
>>4653477
Switching to this.
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>>4653424
Fuck it, it's time to go crazy
changing vote from >>4653444 to >>4653477

>>4653524
Congratulations WhatIs. Your post in response to my meme question single-handedly swayed 7 posters to this >>4653477. I hope you're prepared to counter or play against the events in Elegy of Inheritance should anything similar begin to happen :^)
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>>4653580
I will never vote to fuck Ayala.
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>>4653585
Why did you vote to flirt with her then?
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>>4653591
In an effort to avoid splitting the vote between similar options.
If three people vote lolnope, and three people vote no with a cute little speech, but four people vote yes then the people who voted yes will win the vote despite being in the minority.
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>>4653581
what are you other quest even about
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>>4653596
Waifu quest but in Castlevania.
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>>4653594
Literally two people voted yes. There was no splitting.
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>>4653600
interesting
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>>4653477
Support.
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>>4653477
I'll support this
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You take a deep breath as you begin to think about just how you want to respond to this request. "I'm... very flattered that you would consider me for such a role, and in principle I expect I'll end up acting in line with your interests, but I don't feel like I can accept the enormity of the commitment this would mean with what I currently know." The white humanoid stares at you silence, and you continue. "I'm especially afraid that if I were to accept, especially now when I'm still exploring my power, if it has the potential you outline, the other forces you'd like to employ me against, might feel pressured into a preemptive strike." You take a breath as you think about what sort of a target you would be painting on the backs of all of your friends, should you accept the offer. "And I would especially not want my friends to be caught in such a crossfire more than they already are becoming..." With all the forces moving against you, it's a miracle that none of your friends have actually died yet!

"Then if that is your answer we ha-" You approach Alaya quickly, before it can respond to your movement.

"However!" You interrupt Alaya. "I don't need a contract with you in order to do all that I can in order to protect both you and the humans on this planet." You suddenly hug the white humanoid tightly, the strange substance that makes up the being being far more solid than you had expected it to be, and in truth it's exactly like hugging an actual human being. "I won't make a contract with you right now, but I can promise you that."

Unexpectedly, Alaya returns your hug, as the world around you starts to fade into white once more. Alaya's voice is soft, but it sounds like the voice of a woman as it whispers in your ear... "I see, then I shall look forward to meeting you once again. Shinji."

STATUS UPDATED.

You wake up again, this time you're laying on the floor of Shiki's room, and you gasp for air as you do, your lungs demanding to once again breathe oxygen. Aoko, Lugh, Touko and Shiki are looking down at you with concern in their eyes, it's weird to see Shiki not wearing his glasses in a situation that doesn't call for it, but you quickly remember that he has no reason to wear them now. "Wakame-kun? Are you OK?" Touko offers you her hand to pull yourself up with and you gladly take it.

"Yeah, I just... had some feedback from altering the Root for a second time." You tell part of the truth.

Aoko's gaze hardens. "Could you see a red cloaked figure? Was it a Counter Guardian?" Her voice is full of concern, as the single person here who has actually had the experience of seeing a Counter Guardian in their official capacity due to attaining the Fifth, it seems that it left quite the impact on her.

>"No, actually, I saw Alaya herself."
>"Yeah... something like that."
>"Actually, Alaya wanted to offer me a job as her Beast."
>"I can't remember."
>Write-in...
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The status page is going to be spoiler hell for anyone who finds this quest in the archive.
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>>4653762
>>"Actually, Alaya wanted to offer me a job as her Beast."
Its not even like anyone would believe us if we said that so i think it would be extremely funny
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>>4653768
I think I might have older versions of the status pages for Shinji saved to my PC.
I might at some point go through the status menu and order it in a way that avoids spoilers.
(DO NOT READ UNTIL THREAD (number)) above each one, or something.
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>>4653762
>>"No, actually, I saw Alaya herself."

that was quite sweet OP, thank you for that.
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>>4653762
>"No, actually, I saw Alaya herself."
You made me feel things, you monster. Good job.
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>Beloved of Alaya
> If this skill were to be activated to it's fullest, then any being born of humanity would be unable to resist the commands of the skill's owner
We straight up have mind control
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>>4653793
It's a Beast level skill, yes.
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>>4653774
You should probably do that, because right now a person reading through thread one will get directed to Shinji's character sheet from the thread and end up seeing three sets of servants, Mordred, a Foreigner, and a Beast before reaching a sheet that lists that the protagonist gained the ability to command every human by hitting on the counter force as the first thing under personal skills.
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>>4653793
>As an additional benefit of this skill, the owner is themselves unable to be affected by any form of mental interference skill, no matter how powerful the skill in question might be.
Personally I'm more stoked about us having complete mind bullshit resist.
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https://pastebin.com/AcNswEHq

This is the new link for the Status Menu that will be the active one going forwards

I'll start transforming the old one into an archived version where each Servant has spoiler warnings.
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>>4653762
>>"No, actually, I saw Alaya herself."
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>>4653762
>>"No, actually, I saw Alaya herself."
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>"Actually, Alaya wanted to offer me a job as her Beast."
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>>4653762
>"No, actually, I saw Alaya herself."
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>>4653762
>"No, actually, I saw Alaya herself."
>"Actually, Alaya wanted to offer me a job as her Beast."
¿Porque no los dos?
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>>4653762
>"No, actually, I saw Alaya herself."
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>>4653762
Cute, alaya needs love too.
We need to tell emiya we hugged his boss later.
also holy fuck we are getting more op
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>>4653836
I wanna hug EMIYA too i don't want my best bro to be unhappy
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>>4653762
>"No, actually, I saw Alaya herself."
>"i also hugged her."
I expect us to talk to gaia next time we pass out.
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>>4653762
"Actually, Alaya wanted to offer me a job as her Beast."
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>>4653838
ah, indeed, but i guess he would like more if illya hugged him.
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>>4653762
>Alaya had a job for me, but the pay wasn't good so I said no.
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>>4653762
>"No, actually, I saw Alaya herself."
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>>4653839
I have no idea how that would go down, we're a human from a place where humans easily run supreme thus we're naturally at odds with her but we're also helping Arc kill DAA and already got done killing 2 so we've helped out quite a bit
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>>4653839
Supporting
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>>4653857
Arc's job isn't actually to kill DAAs, it's to kill True Ancestors that have fallen to their lust for blood. As far as she's aware though, all the other full True Ancestors are dead. She just really fucking hated Roa.

Calling in 15 minutes.
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>>4653857
Well Tanaka proves that gaia can speak with humans on a cordial level.
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>>4653866
isn't Altrouge half True Ancestor that Arc also fucking hates?
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>>4653867
Tanaka also can't exist until the world starts to die.
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>>4653872
She's not succumbed to her lust for blood
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>>4653875
disregard that, I suck cocks
(had a brain fart)
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>>4653872
She's only a Half-True Ancestor, and it's not Arc's duty to deal with her. Especially because she can't because of Primate Murder.
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>>4653878
Well we're gonna have to deal with her somehow. Do we have any counter to the dog, aside from Taoko having Lugh?
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>>4653873
give us 4 weeks
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>>4653882
I mean, there's SHIKI with his immortality that could at expense of a lot of pain stall him, in theory, right? Assuming the dog doesn't start ignoring him when he realizes that. Then there's Shiki with boosted eyes, but he's vulnerable.
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>>4653882
Lugh is our only counter, maybe Satsuki? Not sure if Dead Apostle count as primates
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>>4653762
>"Actually, Alaya wanted to offer me a job as her Beast."
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>>4653882
We got Betty and her familiars. The question is, how strong can she make a familiar and how many do we need.
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>>4653882
Of the people who are fully immune to Primate Murder's Authority of Killing Primates?
You've got
>Lugh (Fully non-human)
>Ibaraki (Fully non-human)
>Arcueid (Fully non-human/race was created by Type-Moon)
>SHIKI (Immortal)

Though out of those four, only Lugh and Arcueid can begin to actually compete with the restricted Primate Murder in a physical fight.
Though an unrestricted Primate Murder is something more on the level of a Type than anything else.
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>>4653887
Would monkey king count as one? I mean I guess it obviously should on account of being monkey, unless her celestial status overrides that. What about Ibaraki?

I'm guessing Tamamo might be helpful but we'd need to somehow arrange the confrontation in such manner to not end up worse off... or somehow friendzone her beforehands.
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>>4653898
No Sakura?
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>>4653914
Authority isn't Magic.
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>>4653914
That would probably rely on drawing Tiamat to manifest more and that's probably not a good idea.
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>>4653924
Oh yeah, while she COULD do that, I seriously wouldn't suggest her doing so just yet.
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i'm looking up certain things for this quest and apparently Medea cured Heracles of his madness? And the Dark Six was the reason why magic disappeared on Earth
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>>4653924
>>4653939
Time to grind those Tiamat affection points.
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>>4653939
will we ever get a shot to talk to the two other factions like this again, or did we railroad ourselves into waifuing Alaya via our choices?
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>>4653966
we have like 6 girls who're pining over us, i think we're ok or already completely fucked
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>>4653966
Well Manakas are still there at the temple y'know? Betty is right here and we know Nyarla is out there, it might not be "like this" but we can talk to those "factions"
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>>4653966
I don't see anything resulting from this event that will force our hand in the future.
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>>4653939
>>>>>yet
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>Status Updated
Goodnight Charming Boy, you served us well!
...maybe too well thinking on it.

>>4653762
>"No, actually, I saw Alaya herself."
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"No... Not a Counter Guardian, Miss Fifth... I met..." The tension in the room is so thick that you could cut it with a knife. "I met the true form of Alaya herself."

"What." Aoko is seemingly completely and utterly stunned by your sudden revelation that you spoke to somebody that it should be very much impossible for a single human to ever actually be capable of surviving a meeting with, outside of maybe a voice in their mind giving them instructions, or offering them a contract. But the true form of Alaya?

"For once I find myself agreeing with my sister. What on Earth are you talking about, Wakame-kun?" Touko looks almost as shocked as Aoko does at your blunt revelation.

"Alaya wanted me to stop messing with the Root, so she decided to come directly to tell me, I told her it was OK and that I'd protect her though." You don't know why you've started to refer to Alaya as a woman, but you suppose it doesn't really matter. As the collective of humanity, it can really be referred to in whichever way one might prefer.

"You... did what? Are you sure you didn't just hallucinate?" Touko sounds genuinely concerned for your health as you speak complete nonsense, the idea of somebody actually making direct contact with the true form of Alaya itself for a chat being a completely ridiculous thought to the mind of not just any magus, but to the mind of any human being. Alaya, being the sum total of humanity, has no need to actually directly converse with a human, after all, as it would already know exactly what they would think due to them in a way being a part of it.

"I don't know, did anybody drug me recently?" As the room is silent, you stop yourself from chuckling. So long as you don't drink the tea prepared by Kohaku, you should be able to avoid getting drugged in the Tohno Mansion. "But yes, I am being completely serious. Though I don't think I am at leisure to speak with you about what I discussed with Alaya, it was quite serious, and I think it was meant for my ears only." You frown. You don't think Touko or Aoko would appreciate knowing that you were given the job offer of 'Beast of Alaya', and while if you had accepted it, you might've been able to match and defeat the Beast of Gaia that is Primate Murder, you simply aren't prepared for that level of commitment just yet.

"Right..." Touko frowns as she seems to decide it might be best to just change the topic entirely. "You seem to have used up quite a lot of your magical energy, do you still want to go through with the plan tonight?" Touko asks with interest, clearly she still wants to kill Rizo, and you can't blame her for wanting to get revenge on the Dead Apostle Ancestor after what he did to her.
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>>4654129
"I don't know, I won't be much help if I were to go, in fact, outside of having the magical energy to let Betty fight, I'm pretty sure I'm too drained to do much else without passing out." You certainly won't be using any magecraft, and you especially won't be using your ability to manipulate or manifest Truth if you were to get in a fight. Humorous that recently, despite you massive reserves of magical energy, you seem to be running low on it more often than not.

"This is about the... Dead Apostle Ancestors, right?" Aoko quickly realizes just what it is that you're talking about. "Personally, I kind of doubt they'd remain in a city like this. Between me, you, my sister, the White Princess, Lugh there, and the Servants roaming about, this isn't exactly a great place for them to be."

"What are you getting at, Aoko?" You ask the woman, who shrugs.

I'm just saying that this is an awful situation to attack somebody. Even for Dead Apostle Ancestors." You can't really argue with Aoko as she suggests that Altrouge and Rizo might not even be in Misaki Town at all anymore. After all, while they probably aren't able to remember Roa... probably, they should be well aware of what just happened to Nrvnqsr tonight, and that your faction of allies is exceptionally dangerous, even to people as powerful as they are. "Now, they might be waiting for the White Princess to leave, or for some other opportunity to arise, but as it is, if they were willing to attack you so directly, wouldn't they have already done so? If they were so confident in their victory, that is." Aoko's logic is sound. Why would they simply wait to attack you? There's nothing binding them to Misaki Town either, and really nothing stopping them from just coming back when a situation is more advantageous for them, and you aren't surrounded by so many powerful people... It might actually be possible that your destruction of Nrvnqsr may even rally a lot of Dead Apostle Ancestors together in a coalition to defeat you...

>Aoko is right. You should be getting back to Fuyuki now anyway.
>Aoko might be right, but you still want to check the place you were trapped for their presence.
>Aoko is wrong. They are definitely still here.
>Ask Touko what she thinks about Aoko's theory.
>Write-in...
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>>4654131
Ask Touko what she thinks about Aoko's theory.
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>>4654131
>Aoko is right. You should be getting back to Fuyuki now anyway.
>but ask Touko what she thinks
Yeah. Rizo and Altrouge probably turned tail the moment Mordred was lost. Best take Sacchin with us though, just to be sure.
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>>4654131
>>4654143
>also, ask Lugh what he thinks
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>>4654131
>Makes sense. What do you think, Shishou?
>Regardless, it might be worth it take a look at the place they held me in, they may have left some clues behind

...or they could leave the place booby trapped to nine hells.
We should in any case at least call Taiga to ask if anything interesting has happened... as non-magus she'd not know details, but might be able to tell us of any fallout that could hint at obscured magical tomfoolery.
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>>4654131
>Shinji starts treating Alaya like a girl, and they start getting more and more into it.
>Humanity collectively being to get more and more feminine.
>Women get more womanly. Tomboys are removed from the collective subconscious.
>Femboys and Transwomen start popping up more and more.
>Shinji becomes Y the last man.
Welcome to the true nightmare folks!

>>4654131
>>4654143
This.
Hell, Alt might have left to go fuck up Fuyuki just to spite us.
If we get back and Taiga isn't hurt, I'll be very surprised.
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>>4654131
>Ask Touko what she thinks about Aoko's theory.
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>>4654131
>It might actually be possible that your destruction of Nrvnqsr may even rally a lot of Dead Apostle Ancestors together in a coalition to defeat you...
Nrvnqsr was sent to kill Arc by the other Dead Apostle faction so if word got out that he was not only killed but very easily, we're looking at a lot of vamps coming after us
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>>4654163
I guess that’s one reason for us to talk to Ciel now. We’ll be bait and she can pick them off.
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>>4654131
>>Aoko might be right, but you still want to check the place you were trapped for their presence.
>>Ask Touko what she thinks about Aoko's theory.
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I hope it wasn't called yet.
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>>4654163
How would they know though?
The only witnesses are our faction members.
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>>4654182
>>4654131
+1
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>>4654131
>>4654182
Supporting this.
We spent too much time preparing to leave without checking the place out at least.
Not in person necessarily. Send Betty's familiars or maybe use divination.
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>>4654182
+1
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>>4654191
considering that there are a shit ton of vampires that are in Nrvnqsr's faction, there's bound to be one of them that has some seer type ability or for someone to notice that Nrvnqsr died when he was on the hunt for Arc
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>>4654191
Dead Apostles, and especially Dead Apostle Ancestors, have access to familiars. At least one that Shinji is aware of has four Divine Beast Class Familiars.
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Anyway, I'll be calling the vote in 15 minutes.
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>>4654206
Doesn't that guy work for the Church tho? Why would he notify other vampires?
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>>4654212
I was just using him as an example of the level of power you're dealing with here.
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>>4654206
Is the vote called?
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>>4654212
Merem would probably get the Church involved, we're already in bad standing after Kirei put a target on our head, plus QM said at least one, there's likely more people that noticed
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>>4654217
>>4654211
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>>4654218
Why would the Church be upset with us? We are doing their job for them.
Two immortal DAA killed in a single day. They should give us a medal or something.
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>>4654220
Sorry, the thread is so long that is freezing my pc
>>4654131
>ask touko
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>>4654225
Gee anon, why would the Church be upset with the guy who's allied with a True Ancestor, who's friends with a Dead Apostle and who's breaking the rules of the HGW and left town
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>Ask Touko
>>4654138
>>4654157
>>4654235

>Aoko is right but ask Touko anyway
>>4654143
>>4654155
>>4654182
>>4654192
>>4654198
>>4654199


>Ask Touko but check the place out anyway.
>>4654151

>>4654235
Sorry anon, but you'll have to hold on for a few more days until I can make a new thread.
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>>4654239
Hey QM. I voted to check the place out and ask Touko tho.
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>>4654239
Hold On I feel like a may have just completely messed this up through misreading my own prompts...
Let me recount.
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>>4654155
They cant just fuck up fuyuki, gilgameh wouldnt like that
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>Ask Touko
>>4654138
>>4654157
>>4654235

>Aoko is right you need to be getting back to Fuyuki but also ask Touko
>>4654143
>>4654155

>Ask Touko about it but also check the place out.
>>4654151
>>4654182
>>4654192
>>4654198
>>4654199

Alright, don't know what was happening to me there.
This should be right.
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>>4654225
Maybe you could talk to Jeanne about that.
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"That... sounds plausible enough... Shishou...? What do you think?" While Aoko's theorized departure of the Dead Apostle Ancestors is incredibly plausible, you want to confirm it with Touko first, not that you doubt Aoko's theory all that much, just that you want a second opinion on the matter, and you feel like Touko, as the sister with more experience in matters relating to supernatural lore, would be able to confirm how likely it is that your two targets would have already left Misaki Town.

"Oh? Well... I do hate to admit is, but Aoko might be right. They'll probably wait for the best opportunity to come after you, or Altrouge may even attempt to gather up every single vampire loyal to her in order to mount a successful attack on you. I doubt that she was expecting you to have amassed so many powerful allies during this grail war. They will either have returned to Fuyuki City, or gone back to one of their lairs... and good luck finding that. Age of Gods level barriers are a pain in the ass to work around." Aoko looks smug as Touko says that, as if somehow implying that such barriers are no match for her, though you doubt she's thinking of things in any sense except in how difficult they are to destroy.

"Right, well, in that case, we'll explore the place I was imprisoned in before we leave Misaki Town in the morning. Better we see if they have left behind any clues to their intentions instead of just accepting that you might not be able to find them again. Though you have no doubts that Altrouge will eventually come for you once more, you'd much rather your next meeting with the girl be one on your own terms, instead of one on her terms. After all, a meeting on her terms included you being thrown into a dungeon to await your death and subsequent reanimation as Altrouge's undead slave. Though you suppose that if you ever find yourself in a situation that is truly dire where death is certain, it might be possible to reach out to Alaya to accept her offer to make you her Beast. It certainly wouldn't be ideal, but it would be better than dying.

"Alright, Wakame-kun. You'd best see about changing your outfit before going back to your allies though." Touko looks you over with a discerning eye, and you suddenly remember that you had originally set off to get dressed and find Betty! Not in that order, mind you.

"Ah, right... Well! I'll be off then!" You leave the room in order to return to your own and get dressed, and Betty materializes as you do, apparently having gone into spiritual form at some point during your meeting with Aoko and Shiki, she happily skips after you as you swiftly walk down the halls to your room. You have Betty wait outside as you put on the change of clothing provided for you by Sakura, a perfect fit! It's basically a perfect replica of your previous ruined outfit too! You'll need to thank Sakura again for this.
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As you leave the room again, Betty skips off ahead of you, you have no idea how long you've left everyone waiting in the lobby at the moment, but seeing as nobody specifically mentioned how long you were unconscious for, it couldn't be any time greater than half an hour in total. Betty happily skips through the open door into the lobby as you follow after her, but all of a sudden you find yourself being violently pulled to the side!

"Advisor!" Oh. It's just Mordred. "I need your help!" Mordred's voice is clearly worried about something, and she takes an awkward peek into the lobby.

"What's up, Mordred?" You wonder what could've worked the newly crowned King of Britain into such a panic!

"I-It's father! Father is acting way too strangely right now!" You peek through the door to see a blushing and somewhat awkward looking pair. Saber and Shirou together looking incredibly sheepish. Oh. You think you know exactly what has happened now. Good for Shirou!

>"Well Mordred, you see, when a man and a woman love each other very much..."
>"This is your chance Mordred! Go up to Saber and try to reconcile with her!"
>"Mordred, I think you might be able to figure this one out by yourself..."
>Laugh uncontrollably.
>Write-in...
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>>4654346
>Laugh uncontrollably.

Fuck it, about time.
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>>4654346

>"Well Mordred, you see, when a man and a woman love each other very much..." also Shitrou I never thought you'd lose your virginity before me. I probably need to fix that soon.
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>>4654346
The funny part is that is that mordred cant figure this by herself
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>>4654346
>"Well Mordred, you see, when a man and a woman love each other very much...
As a king it's important to know these things.
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>>4654346
>>"This is your chance Mordred! Go up to Saber and try to reconcile with her!"
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>>4654346
>>"Well Mordred, you see, when a man and a woman love each other very much..."
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>>4654346
>This is your chance Mordred! Go up to Saber and try to reconcile with her!"
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>>4654353
Really does run true, the smarter and more autistic your plans the harder it is to get laid. Tragic.
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>>4654346
>>"Well Mordred, you see, when a man and a woman love each other very much..."
something something CGI dragon something
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>>4654346
Offer to demonstrate to her later, have her try and reconcile for the time being
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>>4654346
Please write what happened from shirous pov, all of it.
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>>4654386
SEAFOOD METAPHOR
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You guys are so mean to the poor autistic Mo-chan.
As her advisor we should be more supportive.
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>>4654346
>Laugh uncontrollably.
We need some catharsis right about now.
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>>4654394
OK
>>4654346
>"HAHAHA, SHIROU FUCKED YOUR DAD!"
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Did you enjoy today's session, everyone?
Unfortunately, I have to wake up really early in the morning, so this is gonna have to be the last update.
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>>4654397
Now you are mean to the poor WhatIsAQM.
If you were going to change your vote you could have quoted your previous post you know
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>>4654353
That's going to get MC killed by several women.
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>Laugh uncontrollably.
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>>4654404
Good shit, glad anons didnt try to dick the collective unconsciousness.
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>>4654404
yes
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>>4654408
That's the thing, I'm not.
>>4654412
We should have used the wish for that.
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>>4654346
I'll switch from >>4654364
To
>"Well Mordred, you see, when a man and a woman love each other very much..."
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>>4654416
Can you even imagine how loose the collective pussy of humanity is?
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>>4654412
Honestly that wouldn't be worth it. One has to be the most desperate of incels to fight Beasts for a pussy access.

>>4654346
>>"Well Mordred, you see, when a man and a woman love each other very much..."
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>>4654409
OK virgin
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>>4654454
This quest has amassed a horde of world ending high powered borderline Yanderes already, you can understand my concern.
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>>4654457
We parted on good terms at least.
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>>4654457
There is a point of diminishing returns where each individual demigod waifu adds a negligible amount of danger to the total.
The first one is terrifying, but by the seventh it becomes a matter of course.
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>>4654346
>Laugh uncontrollably.
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>>4654470
Less concerned of danger to us, more of danger to each other when the Shinji bowl kicks off in earnest after we settle Fuyuki.
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>>4654476
What's so dangerous about a double elimination karaoke tournament?
That is how we decided to answer the wife question, right?
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>>4654478
To avoid fatalities its probably either this or splitting into multiple dolls.

You get a Shinji! You get a Shinji!

Think thats beyond us tho.
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>>4654488
The true path forward is to make a decision regarding the girls and ask that they at least respect it if they can't be happy with it.
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>>4654346
>>"Well Mordred, you see, when a man and a woman love each other very much..."
How the fuck did Shirou lose his v card before us what the fuck, we have women literally throwing themselves at us.
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>>4654494
Cannot wait to see that thread turn into nuclear hellfire.
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>>4654457
Yeah uh, this is just gonna keep getting worse as the quest goes by anon, I thought it was a stretch for us to seduce Arc, i didn't think we could land Alaya
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>>4654503
Im in favor of picking one(or two) and walling it off, we shall see.
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>>4654496
Monogamy Chads always outperform harem anime cucks.
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>>4654346
>"This is your chance Mordred! Go up to Saber and try to reconcile with her!"
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>>4654496
The cucks here are going for a virgin run.
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>>4654513
>>4654509
i swear to god we're gonna end up completely drained of magical energy and need to sleep with someone to quickly recharge
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>>4654513
We need to corner ourselves, force the issue. Mayber after dealing with the Manakas.
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>>4654513
A real magus knows not to let a gussied up familiar steal your prana.
The feeling of raw sex with a historical figure or highschool girl is temporary, the Root is eternal.
>>4654515
Shinji isn't gay.
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>>4654386
wouldn't it be kind of long? the POV would end up being right after Saber's clash with Mordred
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I wonder how aoko will react to EMIYA, would se know he is a counter guardian just by looking?
>>4654526
i just want to know how their first time was.
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>>4654530
We kinda know, for those two circumstances are not that different other than Shirou not being fucked to death quite as much.
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>>4654346
>"Well Mordred, you see, when a man and a woman love each other very much..."
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>>4654524
does sex with women not refill magical energy?
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>>4654550
Have you ever seen a mana transfer where the woman was not the recipient?
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>>4654550
If they have a higher reserve than you do, sure.
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>>4654554
I have.
Though it's not technically a mana transfer with these two but it works under the same principles.
Just don't question it.
Magic.


Oh god I need to be up in five hours why am I still awake.
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>>4654577
I don't think that counts at all.
Seriously, how the fuck is a woman going to transfer anything to a man through sexual intercourse.
And why the fuck aren't you in bed!?
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>>4654582
>Seriously, how the fuck is a woman going to transfer anything to a man through sexual intercourse.
Sexually Transmitted Diseases would like a word, anon.
But the actual answer is try not to think about it too much.
Just don't.
It. Just. Works.

>And why the fuck aren't you in bed!?
I don't have a good answer for this, so have this distraction Medea.
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>>4654582
Saliva transfer works, dont see why other fluids would not.
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>>4654588
Ok wise guy, so you're telling me that when a guy is slamming his rod into a broad's gootch, that magic juice is going to move from the girl to the guy?
How would that work?
Does the magic go up the guy's peehole?
This is a basic question of the physical and conceptual makeup of sex and unless you REALLY want to be Merlin nothings going to change when it comes to that.
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>>4654597
>Does the magic go up the guy's peehole?
Unironically, yes. That's how tantric rituals work anon.
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One more thing before I go to bed.
For real.
I actually have a team name in mind for a potential group of Shinji, Shirou, SHIKI and Shiki.
The Four Horsemen of Death. Works especially well because in Japanese the sound/letter 'Shi' can mean both "Four" and "Death".
Now you just need to get some horses.
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>>4654610
Okay so:
Shirou = War (because he wields instruments of war)
Shiki = Death (for obvious reasons)
Shinji = Conquest (because he conquers any obstacles in his way? idk.)
SHIKI = Famine? Can SHIKI drain the life force around him like Akiha?
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>>4654608
I refuse to believe that the setting supports energy drain cock vore that results in ball inflation.
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>>4654610
Maybe make it a Four Heavenly Kings ripoff instead of Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse? And hope Ibaraki doesn't care.
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>>4654617
But that's literally how IRL tantric magic works anon.
The man and woman are connected by their genitals and exchange energy through there.
And the guy's balls don't inflate. The energy spreads throughout his entire body.
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>>4654623
>IRL tantric magic works
Lmao
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>>4654632
You can laugh all you want dude but tantric mana transfer is a thing in Nasuverse and it works both ways.

If you want to be really careful stick to oral sex and kissing.
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>>4654622
Yeah but then I don't get to have the cool Shi motif from the start of everyone's name.
The four of you are some of the most deadly people alive, and also you all have regenerative healing factors through different means, which is actually kinda hilarious.
Note it's not specifically The Horsemen of the Apocalypse, but of only Death.

It was just something chuuni I thought fit.
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>>4654622
also Ibaraki would care a lot.
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>>4654644
Im not opposed, but who would come up with it? Our Shinji does not seem that chuuni. Im not sure Shirou can read, and the other two are disinterested in culture.
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>>4654644
Nice chunni digits.
It's still past your bedtime!
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WhatIs, do you have a current opinion on what would happen to Gray if morud came in contact with her? Being an artoria homonculus and now the second coming of the king of britain.

Also, does morud age now that she's incarnated or is she perma-flat?
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>>4654649
Probably whoever the guy that gave Shiki the moniker of 'DEATH" was.
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>>4654653
Important questions here.

Especially the breasts.
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>>4654653
To add, Iif she is perma flat is there a Rhongobongo toggle or upgrade option via interaction with Gray?
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>>4654653
>Gray and Mordred.
Now that's something I've given quite some thought to.
Consider the following, you have accidentally shattered the prophecy that King Arthur is the "Once and Future King"

>Does Mordred Age now she's incarnated.
While the answer would normally be yes. No. Thanks to Caliburn Camlann granting her immortality (from age). Mordred can't age. Which is a good thing because otherwise she's got like, years to live at most. She's a homunculus, remember?
She also can't be like, more than ten years old or something.
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>>4654610
based name, lets fucking do it

>>4654614
Famine and Conquest actually works really well, SHIKI has mystic eyes life perception so he can drain people and Shinji is a conqueror of sorts
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>>4654673
SHIKI's mystic eyes of "life" perception did sort of belong to Roa though. They are effectively less effective MEoDP.
He did likely inherit them though.

SHIKI does have his Oniblood powers that let him drain people he attacks though.
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>>4654665
So her incarnation didn't actually fix her scuffed homunculus body at all, she just got paused at her current point?

I imagine if you go the positive option Gray is free from being overtaken by Artoria's image? Although didn't some cult using artefacts from Morgan have to be utilised in order to truly delete her original self in order to perfectly overlay Artoria onto her body?

Assuming she doesn't die there's some kino to be had in the retaking Britain arc and neat dialogue between Kay and an otherwise abdicated Artoria having a somewhat repaired relationship with morud. Also lingering seething remnants of Morgan

Also when the next lostbelt is released we should get more Fate/canon information regarding Morgan and other Fae lore which Shinji wouldn't be privy to due to the cut-off point of meta knowledge.
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>>4654678
btw i like the implication that we're gonna end up having the tag team fight i've always dreamed about with our best bros
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>>4654683
>So her incarnation didn't actually fix her scuffed homunculus body
Well it did, but mostly because it made her immortal among other enhancements. The wielder of Caliburn is ageless unless it breaks.
It's why Saber didn't age.
That and Avalon.
this does mean that Shirou won't age for as long as he keeps his traced copy of Avalon and contract with Saber.
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>>4654699
Oh I know what the NPs do I just wasn't sure if her physical form/constitution was improved along with her stats at any point.

Also Gray has an active Dragon Core as of Artoria's summoning in this war so she's a bit higher spec if she doesn't start falling apart due to the Pendragon presence
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>>4654610
Do it, what about modern horses? The sport bike.
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>>4654665
How old is she supposed to look also Shinji should stop his age at like 22 or something.
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>>4654346
>"Well Mordred, you see, when a man and a woman love each other very much..."
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>>4654346
>"Well Mordred, you see, when a man and a woman love each other very much..."
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>>4654346
>>"Well Mordred, you see, when a man and a woman love each other very much..."
Everything went better than expected.

Although now I’m worried Mordred will be having ideas for practical demonstration.

>>4654404
Yes, very much so!

>>4654665
We’re going to have to fix that regardless because Einzberns are counting on us.
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>>4654346
>"Mordred, I think you might be able to figure this one out by yourself..."
Let us just hope she won't try to do the same with us.
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>>4654920
hating tomboys is peak homosexuality
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>>4654927
Who said anything about hating tomboys? Mordred is my favorite Saber, it's just that in the story Shinji would be in deep shit if she decides she wants to do it with him.
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>>4654931
She's easy enough to convince it requires marriage first which would make him regent. Worst case Charisma of Alaya mind control
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>>4654726
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNRaDavYo1M
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>>4654346
>"Well Mordred, you see, when a man and a woman love each other very much..."
>Laugh uncontrollably.
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>>4654933
>mind control
That skill is kept sealed from that level and Shinji both doesn't know how to unseal it, nor is he the sort of person to consider mind controlling his own friends and loved ones like that.
also you REALLY don't want to use the unsealed version until you're certain there are no other humans in a five kilometer radius... It's not just irresistible commands.
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>>4654971
Did you enjoy your 2 hour sleep?
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>>4654973
No.
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>>4654971
>any being born of humanity would be unable to resist the commands of the skill's owner
>you REALLY don't want to use the unsealed version until you're certain there are no other humans in a five kilometer radius
It's useless then?
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Nigga sleep.
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>>4655003
QM called it a Beast level skill.
Probably best we don't try cribbing Kiara's shit by using it fully just saying.
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Hey qm if it makes you feel better I slept three hours and to top it off it was sleep paralysis.
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>>4655003
I think it will come across as indispensable when the time comes for us to convince someone or something with all the combined force of mankind to not fuck shit up.
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>>4655003
Depends on how many 99/100s you want.
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>>4655042
Now we just need to form a list of useful female human characters we might need down the line.
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>>4655046
>Implying Beloved of Alaya only works on females.
Anon...
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>>4655049
The only person it doesn't work on.
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>>4655049
This is exactly why we need a proper list and plan for it.
Otherwise it is just about as hard as it would be to just walk into Lorelei`s office.
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>>4655049
>go to Clocktower
>use skill
>fucking run.
There, Clocktower solved.
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>>4655056

Theme music for remainder of the quest:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnHmskwqCCQ
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"Well Mordred, you see... when a man and a woman love each other very much they..." You trail off, hoping that she'll get the message from just that.

"They what, Advisor?" Mordred crosses her arms with a serious expression on her face. "And what does this have to do with my Father?" Mordred doesn't look like she gets it at all, and you realize that you may actually need to explain the concept of sex to the dense girl. You've half a mind to fetch Rin to get her to explain things, but that would just make things feel even weirder, honestly.

"Uh..." Oh man. This... This is awkward. "They... they show their feelings for each other..." Can she please hurry up and get the point? You really don't want to be having this conversation with Mordred right now. How little did Morgan actually bother to teach her child?! "By... making love." For some reason, the completely serious face of the girl is making this far more difficult than it should be.

"Explain further, I don't see what this has to do with anything." Mordred is clearly getting irritated with you trying to be discreet about things, and you just decide that you're going to have to come out and say it, as much as you don't want to.

You sigh. "The reason that Arturia over there is acting so strange is because she is... in love with Shirou. The two of them love each other." It's plainly obvious for anyone to see that the two of them had clearly had some sort of tryst with each other, which clearly ended with them consummating their blossoming feelings for each other. Everyone is capable of seeing that... Everyone except Mordred, it seems.

"P-pardon?" Mordred's tone goes from irritated to confused in an instant.

"Arturia Pendragon, your father, is in love with her Master, Shirou Emiya and the two of them made love. That's about as simple as I can make things for you." You cover your face with your hand, somewhat embarrassed about having to explain things like this to Mordred of all people.

"Oh." Mordred's own face goes red now, and she seems to finally have gotten the message about what has happened. Looks like she wasn't entirely clueless about the idea of sex after all. Though you aren't really sure where she might've learned about it. Morgan likely wouldn't have bothered to do so, for Mordred was clearly nothing but a means to an end for her. Could... Merlin have been the one who tried telling Mordred then?

"Yes. So, what are you going to do now that you know?" You honestly want to find out just how this is going to affect Mordred and the relationship she has with her parent going forwards, hopefully she'll find Saber to be less outright hostile to her from now on. Hopefully.

"Hold on... Is Father married to that man now?" Mordred peeks through the doorway to look at Shirou with a scrutinizing gaze.

"What." You blurt out a single word in response to Mordred's bizarre question.
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"Well, you should only... uh.... 'make love' with somebody if you marry them, right? So did I miss something...?" Wait, where is this unprecedented level of moral purity coming from?! Mordred, aren't you supposed to be the berserk swordswoman of the Round Table that brought Camelot to its knees?! Who even told you all of this?! Was it Merlin?! One of your brothers?! Morgan herself?!

"No, they aren't married, or even engaged, Mordred." You sigh as you stare at Mordred. "Though I imagine that neither would turn down a marriage proposal from the other, if I was going to be honest." Seeing as Shirou is capable of eventually reaching Saber even in Avalon, it's a sure bet to say that the love the two share for each other is of the highest level of truly undying and eternal love, such things as a marriage proposal between the two of them would be immediately accepted, if Saber was capable of sticking around, you imagine. Of course, you weren't expecting Saber and Shirou to be able to develop their relationship so much, but between the grail being corrupt and the presence of Saber Alter and Mordred, and especially Mordred becoming the King of Britain, he must've been given plenty of opportunities to try to cheer up a shaken and vulnerable Saber. It's really not that surprising that this has managed to happen between the two of them.

"Hmm, then it's settled! Advisor, you'll help me get the two of them married tonight!" Mordred says something completely ridiculous with a perfectly serious look on her face again, and you can't help but turn away from her to prevent yourself from laughing out loud.

>"OK... OK, let's get them to agree to a marriage."
>"You're on your own on that one, Mordred."
>"Why don't you go ask them on your own?"
>"Do you even know what marriage is?"
>"Maybe later, we do have a job we need to get on with."
>Write-in...
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>>4655174
"OK... OK, let's get them to agree to a marriage and Betty will be the flower girl
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>>4655174
>"OK... OK, let's get them to agree to a marriage."
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>>4655178
And we'll be best man and Moe can walk her father down the aisle
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>>4655174
>"OK... OK, let's get them to agree to a marriage."
Sasuga
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>>4655174
>"OK... OK, let's get them to agree to a marriage."
We need to be the priest.
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>>4655174
I assume we are going to do their wedding under Mordred`s laws?
Can`t say I am familiar with Arthurian era marriage laws but should not Mordred negotiate future engagement with Saber and we will do the same with Shirou? Get them on the same line and do a proper marriage ceremony after the war?
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40 Minutes till call.
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i'm all for silly shit but i don't think the both of then would like if mordred just tried to force then to marry today.
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>>4655174
>"OK... OK, let's get them to agree to a marriage."
Mordred has a quality that makes me want to get swept up in whatever crazy bullshit she comes up with.
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>>4655174
>alright, I can tell you are serious about it. That you want them to be proper as well as happy. Is that right?
>but here’s the thing, the bond you are talking about is one they need to forge themselves. Trying to pressure them can only bring confusion and stress, especially if you fixate on the formal aspect over substance.
> Even as a King, especially as a King, you will have authority over the form, but the substance remains outside of your authority and trying to enforce it rarely ends up beneficial.
>Additionally there are issues of the rite and accompanying tradition, surely such a momentous event should deserve better circumstances than a battlefield among allies with bounty in their heads and dangerous enemies literally out for our blood. There would be no way to reach groom’s father, notify his relations aside from those at hand, never mind opportunity for proper and unobstructed honeymoon.
>so after taking all this into consideration, are you sure you want us to orchestrate a marriage on such short notice?
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>>4655211
No
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>>4655174
>>"OK... OK, let's get them to agree to a marriage."
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>>4655211
this man spitting logic
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Is it ever sair in FSN if saber can get pregnant? she is a servant yes but she is also a living being still.
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"OK... OK, let's get them to agree to a marriage." Wait... what did you just agree to?!

"Excellent, Advisor! I knew I could count on you to help me do the right thing!" Mordred smiles happily at you as you agree to help her accomplish her ridiculous request. What's the worst that could happen? "Now, come with me, I'm going to go talk to Father and... Shirou?" Mordred seems to be confused about what exactly to call the two of them, and you can somewhat agree with her confusion if they were going to be married, and Mordred was now the rightful heir to the Pendragon name as chosen by Caliburn itself, wouldn't that mean both Shirou and Arturia would officially be her parents if they got married? You don't actually quite get it. Also, would Shirou keep his last name? You doubt that Arturia would enjoy the idea of being called 'Arturia Emiya' too much, especially after how poorly Kiritsugu had treated her. Though the alternative of 'Shirou Pendragon' was just as ridiculous. Why are you even thinking about this in so much detail anyway, it's pretty clear that Mordred isn't. "So... how do we make people get married?"

"Well, you're a king now, so I imagine that you'd have the authority to actually... well, approve a marriage, but first we'll need to get the two of them to actually agree to it, and that's usually done by the male proposing to the female." Mordred is looking at you blankly again. "Mordred... your 'Father' is a female, please remember this for the future." Mordred looks positively baffled by your assertion that her Father is female, but doesn't get angry about it like you were fearing she would. Seems like she might've just been able to mellow out a little bit through the acknowledgment of the Sword of Selection. You decide you may as well continue. "Your Father is a female... and so are you. Though as you can see from Caliburn's choice, that didn't stop either of you from being chosen as the King of Britain." Mordred's face is pensive as you call her a female, and you're half expecting things to immediately go poorly then and there for you, but it seems that your gamble of calling Mordred by her actual gender has somewhat paid off.

"Maybe... Maybe you're right..." What do you mean, maybe? You almost blurt out at Mordred as she only begins to consider the possibility that her 'Father' might've been disguising her gender, but... "But... Mother told me how I was born, she sneaked int-"

"Stop." You stare at Mordred, deeply into her eyes. You take a deep breath as you prepare to say your next five words "It was all Merlin's fault."

"In... what way?" Mordred raises an eyebrow at you as you blame the wizard for everything.
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"Look, the less you know about the specifics of the matter, the better, alright? I'd much prefer not knowing myself, if I'm honest." God damn Merlin, what the hell was he thinking? Wait a minute... Merlin was a prophet wasn't he...? Doesn't that mean he probably knew exactly what would have come about as a result of his actions and of the eventual destiny of the girl who he was pushing along to 'save Britain'? What an asshole, seriously.

"Right." Mordred looks unsure of what she should do. "So... Father is a woman? Then... What abou-"

You interrupt "Do not question it. As your Advisor, please listen to my advice on this matter. Also, do not ask your Father about it either." Your face is stone cold as you give Mordred a warning against pursuing what can really only be called forbidden knowledge. The last thing you need to tell her about is that she was conceived because of Merlin turning Saber into a... 'Pseudo-male' in an attempt to grant Saber an heir. "Let's just get back to the topic at hand, please."

"Right, so... about getting them to marry each other, do you have any plans for it?" Mordred seems happy to have the subject changed, thankfully. You're so incredibly glad that she isn't going to push you and force you to tell her exactly what happened that led to her conception, it's better it remain a mystery in her mind.

>"I might be able to manage something if I talk to Shirou in private. I'll even give him the money to buy a ring."
>"Why don't we both just go up to them and suggest it? They might just agree to doing so."
>"Why don't you go up to the two of them and suggest it?" [This is a bad idea]
>"Why don't I go up to them and suggest it?"
>Write-in...
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>>4655398
>>"I might be able to manage something if I talk to Shirou in private. I'll even give him the money to buy a ring."
Hell yeah, slice of life potential filled with shenanigans as people wonder why we're going out to buy a ring
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>>4655395
She's a living being in the body of a Servant.
She'd only be able to have children in the event of her incarnation, which isn't actually impossible, honestly.
Servant's don't tend to have the capacity to have children unless it's like, a very specific Servant.
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>>4655395
the only sure fire way is to incarnate her but that requires grail mud and uh, that's a bad idea. Option 2 would be getting better at Truth Magic
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>>4655398
>>"I might be able to manage something if I talk to Shirou in private. I'll even give him the money to buy a ring."
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>>4655398
>"I might be able to manage something if I talk to Shirou in private. I'll even give him the money to buy a ring."
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>>4655398
>>"I might be able to manage something if I talk to Shirou in private. I'll even give him the money to buy a ring."
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>>4655398
>"I might be able to manage something if I talk to Shirou in private. I'll even give him the money to buy a ring."
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>>4655396
>Why are you even thinking about this in so much detail anyway, it's pretty clear that Mordred isn't


>[this is a bad idea]

You're killing me OP

well I suppose that's what we get in our official capacity.

>"I might be able to manage something if I talk to Shirou in private..."
this feels like the option that has about as much risk as it has a probability of success - rather low.

A properly roundabout plan with proper amount of anime logic might work but I'm a bit stumped here.
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>>4655403
Well giving servants a proper shot at life is in our bucket list anyway, is it not?
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>>4655398
desu its was mostly morgan's fault, merlin didnt expect her to just appear and fuck artoria while he was distracted.
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>>4655419
i wonder if given enough time medea can find some way to incarnate everyone.
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>>4655398
>"I might be able to manage something if I talk to Shirou in private. I'll even give him the money to buy a ring."
This is very stupid, we should ask rin and sakura for help.
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>>4655398
>>"I might be able to manage something if I talk to Shirou in private. I'll even give him the money to buy a ring."
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>>4655420
>it was mostly Morgan's fault.
Let's just ignore the fact that Merlin knew that Saber was doomed to failure from the start, because he was a prophet, and knew the future.
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>>4655424
it was that or just letting it burn without even trying.
Saber still buyed a decade or something if i remember correctly.
Its not like he doing anything or nothing would chance that fate.
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>>4655424
He literally told her right before she pulled the sword from the stone so she knew what was gonna happen
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>>4655427
>>4655429
Yeah, and Saber was so happy with her choice there that she ended up wanting to literally erase herself from existence as a result of it.
Merlin is a dick.
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>>4655431
Nah, merlin tried his best.
Do you prefer if he did nothing? That would result in camelot ceasing to be even earlier.
I don't get this merlin hate.
Saber wanting to remove herself from reality was mostly from her way of thinking and this was point even in-universe to be a retarded one.
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>>4655431
>Saber was so happy with her choice there that she ended up wanting to literally erase herself from existence as a result of it.
Pft. How is she suppose to protect the hopes and dreams that have been entrusted to the future like that?
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>>4655434
>Do you prefer if he did nothing? That would result in camelot ceasing to be even earlier.
All his actions did was prolong the suffering of a completely doomed nation for ten years instead of just allowing it to move on. A complete excercise in futility where Merlin basically dragged Saber and everyone she knew through hell in order to reach an outcome that was set from the start.
It depends on your outlook, I think.

>Saber wanting to remove herself from reality was mostly from her way of thinking and this was point even in-universe to be a retarded one.
Yes, my point was that Merlin basically groomed her from birth in order to be used as a sacrifice for the sake of a doomed country.
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>>4655443
So you are tipping us to go after female Merlin?
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>>4655443
I would have done the same, i wouldnt just let something burn while i could t least try something.
I would do the same as him but try to watch for any incestuous sisters said king may have.
You hate to merlin in specific is weird. Even more when you remember that the dude is a half incubus and can barely understand human emotion, he still had the decency to try to save humans and help artoria, it was her choice and her choice only.
I fear for you even having to write merlin in this quest, hope you can maintain your personal hate to him outside the story.
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>>4655443
Why was Dude Merlin so bad at his job, but Chick Merlin did okay? I mean Arthur turned out to be a pretty well adjusted dude. Sure he wanted to save Britain, but he was never depressed enough to go "LOL LET'S ERASE MYSELF!"
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>>4655457
their personalities are very different, we are not sure if she did anything different.
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>>4655450
>I would have done the same, i wouldnt just let something burn while i could t least try something.
The solution to putting out the fire is throwing a stack of babies on the fire in order to quench it for a moment.
I see.
>I would do the same as him but try to watch for any incestuous sisters said king may have.
HE HAS CLAIRVOYANCE: EX
HE CAN SEE EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS IN THE PRESENT.
>You hate to merlin in specific is weird. Even more when you remember that the dude is a half incubus and can barely understand human emotion
That's not a point in his favor.
>he still had the decency to try to save humans and help artoria, it was her choice and her choice only.
>it was her choice and her choice only
She was literally raised from her birth to be the eventual King of Britain. More than that, she was literally created to be the King of Britain by Merlin.

>I fear for you even having to write merlin in this quest, hope you can maintain your personal hate to him outside the story.
I don't even hate Merlin, I just think he's totally full of shit and had an ulterior motive in the fall of Camelot. We'll probably get to know more when we see the Camelot Lostbelt, but as he is right now, I don't trust him at all.
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>>4655450
When one does something knowing the outcome beforehand there can be no "try".
Merlin knew for a fact that the outcome would be the same either way yet he chose the longer one leading to more suffering for all parties involved.
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Let's see... we can approach Shirou and extoll to him virtues of romantic courtship and how happy such a thing would make Artoria and give him all necessary material support (i.e. rings). We should also impress how important it is to not put such important matters - we live in uncertain times, sure, but that only makes it more regrettable if we look back at the missed opportunities.

Maybe use a sword analogy. If love is sword, a professed proposal is tempering it. Or something.

We can with aid of the Tohnos set up a suitably romantic setting where the proposal could take place.

The next step would be entirely out of our control no matter how we arrange it so we must assume something will go wrong. Optionally we could orchestrate the blunder ourselves to minimize the damage, for instance by falling in through the door as if eavesdropping, giving the two a chance to reconcile.

This should lead to a bout of anime drama where indignant Artoria stomps out, Shirou goes after her, tries to defend our scheming, she sees that he had nothing to do with it and forgives him and the two are left with the idea hanging in front of their minds with rings in Shirou's pocket.

Maybe we could arrange a magical shooting star to top it off.

Ironically, were an enemy to attack at some point during us carrying this plan out, it might pretty much guarantee its success as the two are reminded of their respective virtues. But of course we'd have to deal with the threat first.
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>>4655461
I don't think there's an ulterior motive, Camelot and its fall is a fixed point in time, he likely just made sure it happened
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>>4655461
Merlin fucked up in communicating scale and nuance to Artoria.
What he wanted to get across was that Artoria needed to control her emotions and be willing to commit violent acts for the good of the nation, what he said was that Artoria will become an inhuman monster that kills everyone to save everyone.
I guess that's an effective way to get a literal child to understand the severity of the situation but that's a terrible mindset to follow when you're dealing with real people.
>>4655472
Also this, Merlin was really more an agent of fate than anything.
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>>4655471
I mean, we are super rich, we know a bunch of crazy high tier magic people. I'm sure we can give Shirou the greatest Sword and Camelot based wedding imaginable.

We just have to watch out, because I'm pretty sure saying the words "Wedding", "Marriage" or "Wife" within Fuyuki will cause Tamamo to come crashing down on us with the fury of the sun.
The literal fucking sun. I'm not joking.
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>>4655461
merlin can only see the present and not at the same moment, he isnt omnipresent, at least he don't seem to be.
>I don't even hate Merlin, I just think he's totally full of shit and had an ulterior motive in the fall of Camelot. We'll probably get to know more when we see the Camelot Lostbelt, but as he is right now, I don't trust him at all.
Hope your headcanon don't fuck up withhow you write merlin, please try to separate what you think and what is presented as canon for now, and honestly i don't think he wants anything else from anyone, he just tried what he found best, is just that the dude is barely human and how he made artoria to be as a king didnt work.
And mordred was almost fully morgan's fault, merlin didnt see her coming and was distracted, when he noticed it was too late, the dick wasnt for her.
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>>4655476
If it ends up as western ceremony with all modern day things bouquet catching is going to be a real bloodbath.
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>>4655485
it already feels like a bloodbath since we're putting marriage up as a topic of conversation now as we're stringing along 6 girls
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>>4655479
>headcanon
Where's the headcanon tho?
He knew things are going to be bad so he made them even worse. That sure is nice of him.
>he just tried what he found best
Shame there were no participation ribbons in Brittany at the time.
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>>4655479
He knew Camelot was destined to fall soon, yet still he gave Saber a dick in order to give her an heir.
Then Morgan happened and said heir was then the one who ended up destroying Camelot
Doesn't that strike you as just the slightest bit suspicious?
Merlin was either outright malicious or horribly incompetent.
But honestly, I'd wager he did what he did in order to ensure Camelot fell in order to prevent the Camelot lostbelt from happening.
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>>4655493
the implication that he did it for laughs is absurd though, yeah he's an asshole but he genuinely loved Artoria, why do you think he helped Shirou get into Avalon?
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>>4655493
>I just think he's totally full of shit and had an ulterior motive in the fall of Camelot.
Trying something is better than trying nothing.
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>>4655500
Well, Romani and others refer to him as a scumbag mage, so it might be a bit of both.
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>>4655487
In fairness we're only literally stringing along Satsuki. We're wilfully oblivious of Sakura, Medea is trapped (if she spontaneously burst out of imprisonment for this I'm not going to be complaining), Monika is professional and trapped, Touko is the best teacher and Arcueid is just hanging around to see what's up. And that hug with Alaya was just to assure her of our good intentions towards her... them... everyone.
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>>4655500
We will see, of course.
Also this isnt going anywhere, its just making the thread bigger and fucking my pc.
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>>4655506
Romani is just angry that marimagi was just merlin and a cute dress.
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>>4655507
We are fucked with all this girls after the war.
Hope helping mordred kill the british empire helps distract then.
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>>4655502
>Trying something is better than trying nothing.
Oh, man that hot frying pan full of oil is starting to smoke. I should try to put it out with cold water.
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>>4655514
what
would you not fight even if it was impossible to win? would you prefer not even trying?
This is all a matter of point of view, but i see it as better to fight even if you will fail, at least you failed trying.
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>>4655500
To be fair tragic fate and self fulfilling and reinforcing prophecies are bread and butter of mythology.
If we are going to go through real life mythology and add on top of it all stuff Type-Moon told over the years it will always ends up in pretty convoluted and clashing mess if you run it through modern common day perspective.
Hell, we even had a lot of those tragic fates with dubious morality in our faction. Like Cu or Medea.
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>>4655518
I just noticed that this 2 both killed their spawn.
Interesting,
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>>4655517
If I had seen the future and knew that my attempt would end in failure then I would choose a different approach at the very least.
Merlin does not deserve any credit for putting his hand in a fire and getting a burn while knowing full well what would happen.
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>>4655523
well its not like he knew his approach would fail.
He only knew that the fall of camelot was a eventuality.
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>>4655523
How does clairvoyance work in relation to choice of other agents? Does one see probabilities, or is freedom of choice merely an illusion?
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>>4655523
Merlin didn't even get burned.
He got trapped in paradise and unlocked the ability to go wherever he wanted regardless
It was only everyone else who died violently.
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Anyway, Merlin a shit.
Calling in 30
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Why does Merlin's goal need to be to save Camelot?
We know he could see the future so how do we know that his actions weren't in service of a less obvious goal?
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>>4655529
merlin can only see the present.
Gilgamesh can see various futures or something.
No idea how solomon future shit works.
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>>4655538
Merlin running the longest con to get Shirou laid.
The greatest prophet of Fate Route alongside Takeuchi.
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>>4655511
Romani being so completely clueless about it was honestly the funniest shit about him, and every day I play FGO without him there is another day I suffer. Sherlock Shitface is NOT a proper replacement.
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>>4655398
I might be able to manage something if I talk to Shirou in private. I'll even give him the money to buy a ring."
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>>4655561
sherlock is so bland, even Moriarty is a better character.
i miss him
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I hope you all realize this means Mordred is shotgun marrying us to the first girl we even attempt a move on next.
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>>4655577
we should show mordred the concept of a harem.
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>>4655584
Have her sit down and watch Tenchi Muyo
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>>4655584
I don't think Mordred understands what monogamy is, so she might try to get all the girls to marry us if she catches on.
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>>4655584
I dunno maybe we should let her. Cuts the gordian knot of our woman issues.
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>>4655577
Sounds good to me. As Anon put it earlier, war started and won in a single shot.
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>>4655593
Best ending.
Besides considering how powerful our romantic interests are every woman we marry will strenghten Mordred's future kingdom considerably.
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>>4655577
>"Advisor, I saw you and that fair witch exchange side glances and minute blushes with one another! As my personal aide, it would be unbecoming of you to partake in unmarried bareback breeding
>"As such, you must allow me to IMMEDIATELY officiate your wedding! Thanks to Fathers, I already have experience in those matters!"
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>>4655602
Great post, even guessed im a casterfag.
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>>4655593
Mordred also thinks it's a perfectly normal thing for siblings to have children with each other too.
Just saying.
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>>4655606
Oh my God she's gonna make us marry Sakura
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>>4655564
Moriarty has better character, better scenes, and if he replaced Holmes I bet you
my nut he'd probably just tell you what he thinks is up with the situation rather than Holme's bullshit "oh but I don't want to give you a wrong conclusion hnnng yes I am so intelligent~~"


Also, Moriarty fucking shreds through Sabers and Holmes is a wet blanket support battler.
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>>4655606
I'd rather not accidently produce a human-Tiamat hybrid.
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>>4655611
How else are we gonna get that 99 up to 100?
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>>4655606
hot
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>>4655606
>>4655614
what does 100/100 affection even mean? Is it just being actively violent against supposed rivals or something?
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>>4655628
probably means that someone would love us more than thenselves and do anything we asked without even asking why.
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>>4655632
that sounds extremely scary
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>>4655633
You mean extremely useful.
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>>4655632
I doubt it.
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>>4655636
would basically be turning someone into a slave
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>>4655639
Anon, I think you have a misunderstanding on what slavery is.
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>>4655628
It means bonds of love strong enough to transcend time and space and defy other cosmic forces especially of the supernatural variety as it keeps the couple anchored in each other.
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>>4655639
Nice false equivalence anon.
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i think WhatIs is just a dirty personafag and assumes a 100/100 affection to be post-confession status, whether it be a romantic relationship or the friendzone
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>>4655646
based nonretard poster
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>>4655646
>personafag
Disgusting. Literally the bronies of the SMT Fandom.
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>>4655652
Most smt "purists" haven't even played Jack Bros.
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>>4655656
I mean, most people have no idea that the virtual boy even exists. You'd have been better off with an example like
>Most smt "purists" don't even know that SMT is the third game in the series.
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>>4655646
Considering the VNs already had affection points, I don't see an issue.
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>>4655658
Or that SMT is technically based on a book.
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>>4655658
But that would mean I would have to have a level of unironic investment in who is based or cringe when it comes to cantonese text adventures.
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>>4655722
i'm still mad that aoi refuses to cosplay as shuten
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"I might be able to manage something if I talk to Shirou in private... just stay here for now though." Somehow, your original plans to go and check out the dungeon that you had been sealed within have been forgotten in favor of... trying to get Shirou and Saber to agree to marry each other because Mordred thought it should happen.

"Alright! I can always count on you, Advisor!" Mordred please! It hasn't even been more than a few hours since you were given this role! What are you doing giving praise out like that?! Well, you can't say that you don't appreciate the praise, so maybe you shouldn't complain too much. But you feel like Mordred might be a little too trusting of people if she feels like she can already say things like that. Isn't it kind of ironic that the Knight of Betrayal is overly trusting? Though you suppose that you did grant her wish for her, so that probably has something to do with it. It's actually kind of a sad thought that you're probably the one person in her entire life that Mordred thinks she could trust, and she barely even knows you. It really does just go to show how bad Mordred's life was that this is the case.

"I uh... I... Thanks, Mordred." Not knowing just how to respond to the praise given to you by the King of Britain, you just thank her for it, and head towards the lobby.

"Oh, there you are Onii-chan! I was getting worried about you!" Sakura immediately notices your arrival and greets you happily.

"Yeah, I got a little delayed talking with Touko. I hope you weren't worried about me." You smile at your sister, who beams back at you with her own smile, seems that she's happy she was able to be useful in getting you a second outfit. Though to be fair, if you had to praise Sakura for being useful for anything, it would be permanently destroying Nrvnqsr once and for all, and to a level that not even the Mystic Eyes of Death Perception would be capable of replicating, as even with his eyes, Shiki was incapable of ridding the world of the threat of the chaos of his body, and it managed to reoccur. Such a thing shan't be happening this time though, considering that what little remained of Nrvnqsr's body was seemingly used as a sacrifice by Tiamat to summon herself. Of course, Tiamat represents a greater danger to the people of the planet than Nrvnqsr ever did, but right now the powerful goddess is sealed within Sakura, and will stay that way as long as you can help it. "I need to talk to Shirou about something now though, Sakura, so I'll have to excuse myself..."

"Alright..." Sakura sounds disappointed as you break away from her in order to go and speak with Shirou. Oh god, this is going to be a nightmare, why are you even doing this? Was this really the best way you could think of that would get Mordred and Saber to properly accept each other? It doesn't make any sense! Ah what the hell, you did promise Mordred, kind of, so there's no harm in trying... right?
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"Oi, Shirou. I need to talk to you about something important in private quickly." You call out to your friend as you approach him and Saber. "Sorry to uh... drag you away from your Servant, but this is kind of important."

"Oh, don't worry about it, Saber will be fine by herself for a moment, right Saber?" Saber seems kind of reluctant to let go of Shirou's arm, but having no choice in the matter she is forced to release her grasp.

"Of course. Shirou." Despite the obvious atmosphere around both Shirou and Saber making it painfully obvious just what the two of them had been getting up to in their time away from the mansion to anyone with any sort of ability to gather information from social cues, Saber does a fantastic job of interacting with Shirou in a completely natural way. Must be Charisma B at work, because Shirou is very obviously still kind of out of things. At least this time they did it on their own terms and not because a huge Greek demigod was going to paint the Einzbern forest with their blood and organs had they not, so you suppose that's a plus.

You quickly guide Shirou into one of the connecting hallways, out of earshot from most of the rest of the group who are still mostly just sort of milling around in the lobby and waiting for somebody to tell them to do otherwise. "What's up Shinji?" Shirou clearly just wants to know what's on your mind and you sigh.

>"I'm going to need you to propose to Saber."
>"Mordred kind of wants you to propose to Saber..."
>"Shirou, we're going to a jewelers, and nobody else is allowed to come with us!"
>"You should ask to marry Saber. She'd totally say yes, and you might not get the chance later."
>Write-in...
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Why is every option so blunt?
Can't we start off by congratulating him on graduating to adulthood then asking what his intentions are and then curve to the mariage issue?
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>>4655867
>"Mordred kind of wants you to propose to Saber..."
with a mix of
>"You should ask to marry Saber. She'd totally say yes, and you might not get the chance later."
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>>4655877
The options are blunt because you're literally walking up to your best friend and telling him to marry a girl.
No amount of easing into it will make this less awkward.
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>>4655887
Shinji has Charisma B. He can literally lead armies.
Surely he can rise above a "Hey! Marry this girl!" level of eloquence.
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>"You should ask to marry Saber. She'd totally say yes, and you might not get the chance later."

It's Shirou, you have to spell it out
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>>4655894
Then make a write-in.

Also, it's Shirou.
Do you really think that eloquence is the best way to approach him?
Being direct is about your best shot with him.
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>>4655900
>Being direct is about your best shot with him.
Well shit. I already wrote a whole paragraph of cringe "best buddy" talk.
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>>4655903
I mean, post it. Maybe anons will like it.
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>>4655903
Post it anyway, I want to see it too.
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>>4655867
>"So you got to home base with the late King Arthur. Real smooth Shirou, quite impressive. Well..."
>"Mordred kind of wants you to propose to Saber..."
>"Shirou, she's so dumb and I don't have the heart to tell her how dumb she is, it's honestly very hilarious. So you take one for the team, let's go buy some rings."
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Here I go I guess
>>4655867
>Write-in...
You and Saber seem to have advanced your relationship to the next level. Congratulations! You two are a great pair.
*Then here Shirou says something*
So what are your intentions are regarding this relationship? I realize it's a little early to ask but still could you tell me what you think?
*Then here Shirou says something*
You see the reason I am asking you this is not idle curiosity but a delicate family matter. Mordred, you see, is Saber's child. A child who loves and cares for their mother.
And now that you and Saber are so close Mordred totally supports you two and wants you to continue to the next step of your relationship.
And I personally agree with her. You should ask to marry Saber. She'd totally say yes, and you might not get the chance later.
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>>4655867
>>4655882
+1
>>4655910
Eh, i prefer being blunt with shirou, to be honest.
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>>4655910
That's not bad. Support.
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>>4655867
>"You should ask to marry Saber. She'd totally say yes, and you might not get the chance later."
>"Mordred kind of wants you to propose to Saber..."
Shirou, you gotta sword the sword for the sword to be sworded.
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>>4655910
>>4655867
I will support this cringe.
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>>4655907
So what do you think? Too much words?
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>>4655910
It's a bit stiff, sounds like a robot.
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>>4655932
Sorry anon. I don't have Charisma B. That is also the longest text I have written in 5 years.
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>>4655867
>"You should ask to marry Saber. She'd totally say yes, and you might not get the chance later."
I refuse to even read a write in with asterisks.
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>>4655867
Shirou, we're going to a jewelers, and nobody else is allowed to come with us!"
>"You should ask to marry Saber. She'd totally say yes, and you might not get the chance later."
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>>4655941
Your loss. The less people read it the less ashamed of myself I am.
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>>4655910
2/5
Not enough cringe.
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>>4655877
Shirou is kinda fucking dense at times.
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>>4655956
Why don't you make your own write-in then?
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>>4655962
Nah
>>4655910
>>4655867
Supporting this so when our persuasion fails we can all laugh at this write-in's author.
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>>4655958
It's not being dense, he acknowledges peoples feelings towards him, but doesn't see himself as worthy, so he does his best to ignore it.
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>>4655867
>>"Shirou, we're going to a jewelers, and nobody else is allowed to come with us!"
Let's just explain on the way and ask if really loves Saber and wants to be with her forever (we know the answer, but yk), we don't have to be autistic about it
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>>4655944
Your lack of confidence in your own writing is all the proof I need that I made the right decision by ignoring your contribution.
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>>4655969
Let's go to the jeweler in the middle of the night Shirou. There are some DAA and servants around but I am sure that they won't attack us.
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>>4655867
>"You should ask to marry Saber. She'd totally say yes, and you might not get the chance later."
>"Mordred kind of wants you to propose to Saber..."
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>>4655910
So cringe I didn't even read it.
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20 minute call.
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>>4655970
Lmao
You sure have enough confidence choosing a defaut answer and giving zero effort on your contribution mr literature critic
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I'm just gonna reopen the vote and leave it open until tomorrow, I'm suffering from terrible writer's block right now, and I just can't get myself on a roll like usual. Apologies.

As consolation, here's all of your current allies ranked by pure strength, you and Betty excluded.
This is by no means a conclusive power scale and blah blah blah. You know the drill
It's just who would end up winning if both parties were to start out with as much power as they could muster and ignored the intelligence and difficult to quantify abilities of the fighter.

50 Percent Arcueid > Lugh = Aoko (Fifth True Magic) > King Mordred = Avenger = Avalon Saber = *Sakura* > Ibaraki > Touko = Miho > Avalon Shirou = Immortal SHIKI (Technically can't lose) = Enhanced Shiki = Rin > Recently Turned Satsuki = Giselle = Leysritt > Illya = Sella


*Theoretically if she were to fight without holding back her own powers, as Beast II she would be superior to 50 percent Arcueid*


I might've fucked this up somewhere, I'm tired oh well.
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>>4656182
That's cool dude. Take care.
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>>4656182
Really? Rin is equal to Shiki, SHIKI and Shirou? And yo wtf Avenger is fucking absurd if he can somehow match Avalon Saber and King Mordered
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>>4656194
Avenger was summoned to fight Gil so he's supposed to be strong
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Illya that low? My god this war is a great eye opener to her.
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>>4656194
Rin I'm actually kind of underselling. I was originally going to rank her lower but she actually has massive firepower through her gems. Enough that she could kill Berserker.
Also, she has Kaleido-Ruby too, which would probably raise her above the three if she used it.
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>>4656203
i forgot she stockpiled gems nevermind
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>>4656198
Illya I'm also underselling kind of, but she's not really got much of a chance in a fight. She's supposedly quite powerful, but it's never really shown. Against a Rin willing to use her gems, Illya would die.
Illya is theoretically strong but she doesn't know the first thing about actually fighting or combat spells, so her nigh-unlimited magical energy is usually just used for relatively weak effects or occasionally trying to blast people with big energy balls.
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>>4656182
Huh, I expected Satsuki to be higher.
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>>4656275
it makes sense, she's a prodigy of a Dead Apostle but she has 0 combat skills and experience and she was recently turned. Within a month she'd be equal to or stronger than Touko though, Depletion Garden is no joke
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>>4656275
She's only just been turned and is still trying to figure out the majority of her own powers.
Her powers are also increasing every day just through her basically existing.
Just wait until she figures out magecraft.
Just... don't expect her to still have Depletion Gardens as her reality marble when she gets it.

Satsuki actually has some of the most developmental potential of every character in your faction... Honestly, she's really only behind you when it comes to her ceiling.
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>>4656289
>Just... don't expect her to still have Depletion Gardens as her reality marble when she gets it.
why
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>>4656292
Reality Marbles are created based on the person who owns them.

They change according to their owners and what their general mental state is as a person, Shirou gets UBW by default because SWORDSWORDSWORD so he's a bad example to use in most situations.

Depletion Gardens as a reality marble is portrayed as this lush beautiful rolling landscape of green hills that is suddenly snatched away and replaced with a barren wasteland of death which kills everything within it.
One could very easily take that to mean that Depletion Gardens is Satsuki's internalization of the life she lost due to being turned into a Dead Apostle.
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>>4656289
>Just wait until she figures out magecraft.
We promised to teach her magecraft so we should do that sometime soon.
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>>4656293
So the power shell be getting if we preserve her smiles will be a support/restorative/protection one?
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>>4655867
>Shirou, we need to talk about marriage.
>I realize this may seem abrupt, but I’ve seen how you and Saber look at each other.
>cementing this bond with oath would make both of you happier and stronger for it. I just know it.
Ike a sword being tempered.
>I’ll help you with the rings. Just think on it. Ultimately it’s your and her decision, but I know neither of you would regret it.
>[have a jeweler with a selection of rings flown to our location]

The evening is not yet lost!

I’m confident this could get through to Shirou but I’m a little bit worried about Artoria’s reaction if she realizes we’ve been setting him up. Maybe we should talk to her too?
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>>4656438
Bro stop being so cringe
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>>4655867
>>4655910
+1
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>>4656182
Huh.
King Mo is kinda busted if she ranks in the Gilbuster class.
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>>4656590
That's how it should be
She got a huge power boost from caliburn
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>>4656598
Still it's hilarious that Saber needs her ultimate trump card to match King Mo.
I want King Mo to fight Saber Alter and stomp her.
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Hey QM how are you feeling today?
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>>4656696
I'm feeling alright, just writing the update now, I think the writers block has passed.
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>>4656756
Cool. I am this anon >>4655910
It seems that my write-in is in the lead.
I just wanted to say that that if you don't like this write-in I could delete it so you could write for the something else.
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>Mordred wants you to marry Saber + You should totally propose
>>4655882
>>4655917
>>4655922
>>4655986

>You should totally propose
>>4655898
>>4655941

Write-in 1
>>4655908

Input:Congratulations=Output:Marriage?
>>4655910
>>4655920
>>4655925
>>4655967
>>4656588


>We're going to a jewellers also ask to marry Saber.
>>4655942

>We're going to a jewellers
>>4655969

>Embrace Chuuni
>>4656438

I somehow missed that the write-in was actually winning and over just being blunt.
Oh. Oh boy.
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I don't know how you guys expected that would turn out.
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>>4656779
So since you already started writing for another vote maybe you should just ignore my write-in and keep on going?
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>>4656785
Yeah
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>>4656779
If two guys are retracting their votes, I'll switch to
Mordred wants you to marry Saber + You should totally propose
In the interest of saving time.
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>>4656785
I only had one and a half paragraphs written, so it's no big deal. Unless you're going to vote for something else now, I'll just restart.
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>>4656794
Man I really hate to give you more work.
Let's just say I switched to whatever option you were writing for.
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I hate autists
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>>4656801
Self-loathing is not healthy anon.
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"Haha... well, Shirou... I take it that you probably know about Mordred and Saber now, right?" You can't imagine that Saber would keep Shirou in the dark about anything after Shirou gave her Avalon back. Avalon is Saber's most precious treasure, after all. The two of them are easily at the level on which secrets like that simply wouldn't be held.

"...Right." Shirou frowns. "Saber told me all about it. She said how they... killed each other, and her last words to Mordred were that she didn't have the qualities of a king... She said that she... lost control of herself after seeing Caliburn not only in Mordred's hands, but after realizing that it had accepted her as a king in her own right." Shirou sounds sad as he recounts Saber's actions in the past. "I had to tell her that she was wrong for what she did back then, but that she shouldn't let her mistakes make up who she is. I think Saber deep down wants to apologize to Mordred, but I think she doesn't know how to do so." Well, that makes things... somewhat easier?

"Well in that case... I'm just going to go ahead and say this..." You sigh. "Mordred wants you and Saber to get married." There. You said it. You don't know just how Shirou is going to take this request, but screw it, might as well try. What's the worst that could happen anyway? Shirou says that he's not ready to get married to Saber?

"What?" Shirou raises an eyebrow at you.

"Yeah, Mordred kind of knows that... you and Saber are in a relationship now, and she thinks that the two of you ought to get married as a result of uh... today." You refuse saying anything specific, but you know, and Shirou knows that you know. It's not like he tried to hide it.

"N-no kidding?" Shirou, the normally emotionally dull boy, has clearly been put off balance by your blunt words, but this was about the only way you could actually guarantee that he would be able to understand what you were getting at. He can be quite dense at times, despite not being nearly as dense as he sometimes makes himself out to be.

"Yeah, I mean, is there any reason not to propose to Saber anyway though? You might not get a chance to do so if you wait until after the war, you know. I'm doing my best here, but I can't guarantee that everyone will survive after the war." It's a sad truth that you don't like admitting, but with the caliber of opponents you're up against, losses are something you might simply have to accept, of course, you're going to do everything in your power to prevent such things from occurring.

"You... really think she'll accept?" Shirou is clearly hesitant about the idea of just going up to Saber and proposing, and you can't exactly blame him, proposing to a girl you've met for only a few days is a little strange, but it would be a far greater experience of marriage than Saber's sham marriage to Guinevere, a marriage made out of duty and deception instead of anything even approaching love.
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"Shirou... Do you really think for a moment that she'd say no if you proposed to her right now?" You counter with your own question, and this one is impossibly simple for anybody to answer. If Shirou went up to Saber right now and asked her if she wanted to be married to him, then the answer would be an undeniable yes.

"Uh..." The answer to that question is an obvious one, Shirou and Saber are two people who can fall so completely in love with each other in the space of a few weeks that the boy will literally never ever stop trying to reach Saber in Avalon, eventually somehow managing to get into a place that not even True Magic would allow him to reach through his love for Saber. "I... would it really hurt... to ask her?"

"Now you're getting it! Now..."

>"...You just have to go outside and pop the question!"
>"...We're going to need to get you a ring to give to her."
>"...We're going to need to set up something nice so you can properly propose to Saber."
>"...Somebody needs to ask Saber for her thoughts on marriage before deciding anything."
>Write-in...
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>>4656874
>>"...We're going to need to get you a ring to give to her."

We should be able to arrange some to be delivered right where we are, right? No need to go out to town at this time.
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>>4656874
>>"...We're going to need to get you a ring to give to her."
>>"...We're going to need to set up something nice so you can properly propose to Saber."
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Can’t this guy just project a ring

Or does it not work like that because it’s not a weapon
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>>4656874
>>"...We're going to need to get you a ring to give to her."
>>"...We're going to need to set up something nice so you can properly propose to Saber."
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>>4656884
Nothing says "I love you" like a ring that might just fade out of existence one day.
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>>4656874
>>"...We're going to need to get you a ring to give to her."
>>"...We're going to need to set up something nice so you can properly propose to Saber."
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>>4656874
>>"...Somebody needs to ask Saber for her thoughts on marriage before deciding anything."
>>"...We're going to need to get you a ring to give to her."
Doesn't Rin have some gems with her...? We'll give her a fucking treasure chest worth of gems if it comes down to it
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>>4656874
>"...We're going to need to get you a ring to give to her."
>"...We're going to need to set up something nice so you can properly propose to Saber."
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>>4656874
"...We're going to need to get you a ring to give to her."
>"...We're going to need to set up something nice so you can properly propose to Saber.". For a ring a original Richard the Lionheart ring should suffice
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>>4656951
>For a ring a original Richard the Lionheart ring should suffice
Might as well just raid Moneybill's office and steal Solomon's Ring to give her.
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>>4656955
We have more money than God, I'm sure we can bribe a museum on short notice.
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>>4656951
>Richard the Lionheart ring
Man, if you actually do this and Richard was ever summoned and he found out that King Arthur was wearing one of his rings he'd probably die of fanboy-ism.

Also calling in 25 minutes.
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>>4656874
>"...We're going to need to get you a ring to give to her."
>"...We're going to need to set up something nice so you can properly propose to Saber."
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>>4656962
Well here's hoping people vote for it. Richard was my hero growing up.
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"Right. First we're going to need to get you a ring to give to her." That sure is the first part of getting married to somebody, and you can't believe you're actually going through with this.

"Like... an engagement ring?" Shirou repeats dumbly. God damn it, and just when you were thinking he wasn't always completely dense too!

"Yes Shirou, like an engagement ring." You frown at Shirou's stupid question, but continue talking "There should be a few places in Misaki Town that should sell some relatively high quality rings. There's also the possibility of me giving you the money to buy an incredibly expensive piece of jewelery for her or even acquiring a historical artifact."

"I don't really need to take your money, Shinji..." Shirou sounds a little put-off by the idea. "I have enough of my own money, right?" It's amazing just how pure-hearted and nice a guy Shirou is, that he would even turn down money simply because he doesn't feel like he'd need it.

"Shirou, I am literally one of the richest people on the planet. Please do not refuse gifts of money from me, don't you want to impress Saber?" You are really getting caught up in this marriage stuff now, and you don't even really get why. Is Mordred's enthusiasm infectious somehow? Now that's a terrifying thought.

"I feel like she's not the sort of person to appreciate flashy acts of wealth, you know...?" Shirou is spot on the money as you recall the image of a certain crimson eyed golden haired king being continually rejected.

"Well still, I'll give you the money for a ring for now and you can pay me back later, alright? You didn't bring your life-savings with you, I'm going to imagine. Oh, and I'm not Rin, I won't charge interest." You add a snide remark to the end of your sentence.

"W-well, no." Shirou gives you the answer you were expecting.

"Then it's not a problem if I give you the money right now, is it?" You once again offer Shirou money, and this time in a way that he can't refuse.

"Are we... Are we really doing this right now?" The boy doesn't actually seem to understand the cause for your urgency. "It's not like the grail war is going to end tomorrow, is it?"

"It might." You shrug. With everything going on right now, something could easily occur that ends up wiping out all of the Servants fighting in the grail war in a single day. There are simply too many powerful pieces on the board right now, and equilibrium can only last for so long in a situation like this. "Besides getting a ring, we also need to organize just how exactly you're going to propose to her, but I feel like we had best focus on actually getting a ring for Saber first..."

>Make a few calls, have the jewelry stores bring their stock to you.
>Go to town and look through the jewelry stores with Shirou.
>Ask Shirou if he can project an engagement ring, you've had an idea...
>Take Shirou to the local museum, there's sure to be some interesting pieces of jewelry in there...
>Write-in...
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>>4657080
Take Shirou to the local museum, there's sure to be some interesting pieces of jewelry in there..
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>>4657080
>Ask Shirou if he can project an engagement ring, you've had an idea...
are we doing the whole Richard Lionheart idea?
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>>4657080
>>Ask Shirou if he can project an engagement ring, you've had an idea...
This way it's gonna be a more personal gift.
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>>4657086
Hope so
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>Ask Shirou if he can project an engagement ring, you've had an idea...
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>>4657080
>Make a few calls, have the jewelry stores bring their stock to you.

feels like a waste not to go full Mitsurugi on stuff where it can actually work.
also >projecting
is that actually on the table? I thought Shirou could only trace swords... wouldn't that require a (rather frivolous) use of our own abilities to change?
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>>4657080
>Take Shirou to the local museum, there's sure to be some interesting pieces of jewelry in there...
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>>4657080
>Ask Shirou if he can project an engagement ring, you've had an idea...
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>>4657080
>>Ask Shirou if he can project an engagement ring, you've had an idea...
>>Take Shirou to the local museum, there's sure to be some interesting pieces of jewelry in there...
I feel like going to a museum might give us a few ideas to project something
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Alright folks, I say we have shirou get saber something blue and golden, to match her armor.
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>>4657080
>Ask Shirou if he can project an engagement ring, you've had an idea..
>Make a few calls, have the jewelry stores bring their stock to you

Let's try the Lionheart thing, but also have them bring some to us.
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>>4657101
>I thought Shirou could only trace swords... wouldn't that require a (rather frivolous) use of our own abilities to change?
Shirou can project whatever he wants, but he works best with swords, he's great at other weapons, he's alright at stuff like shields, and he can also project stuff like fishing rods (Well EMIYA can).

The energy upkeep for non-magical things is practically non-existent.
>"……Fine. I guess if I'm going to correct you, we'll have to start with the fundamentals. But let's go back to what we were talking about earlier. Is it true that the thngs you projected are still in your shed?”
>“Yeah. Things don’t normally go away unless you break them, right?”

Fear Shirou as he defies basic scientific laws.
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>>4657134
That's a direct quote from F/SN btw.
You guys could've been using Shirou to flood the precious metals markets for years.
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>>4657137
We could but we're already a billionaire and we know how the market will go for a decade so it seems kinda pointless
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>>4657134
You know, Shirou is pretty fucking OP huh? And this Shirou is even more. Jesus. Shirou Pendragon as Saber when?
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>>4657134
Alright, I guess we could work with that. Although I'm still a bit worried about >>4656887. Buying an artifact on black market through our mafia connections sounds safer in that respect, but could be more time consuming.

In the end it should be Shirou's choice regardless as it's his personality it should reflect.
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>>4657137
We didn't need it yet.
We might need it in 2008 to bring the UK to it's knees.
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>>4657145
There's a difference between being a billionaire and bankrupting practically every country on Earth by causing precious metal to completely plummet in value in order to become the world's indisputably richest man.
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>>4657146
Honestly I'm kinda shocked that Archer's stats aren't a tad bit elevated because of our intervention with Shirou
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>>4657150
It's all about the right moment.
Once the economical crisis strikes we will become the richest man in the world anyway.
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>>4657134
>Fear Shirou as he defies basic scientific laws.

what ELSE is magic good for
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>>4657153
I mean, EMIYA isn't exactly our Shirou. Knight of the Round Table, husband of the wielder of Excalibur, capable of tracing a LOT more. This Shirou is quite different as well. PENDRAGON vs EMIYA, i guess.
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>>4657150
Well The Church and Clockwork are gonna want our head after this is a good gameplan
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>>4657153
Archer was brought to this timeline from another branch as Alaya had an opportunity to keep an eye on you personally.
The Shirou of this branch is now almost guaranteed not to become a Counter Guardian thanks to Saber.


>>4657147
The whole fade out of existence thing will only become a problem if Shirou either dies or if he tries to project something magical.

>>4657157
>what ELSE is magic good for
But Shirou uses magecraft! He shouldn't be able to do break the laws of physics!
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>>4657166
>But Shirou uses magecraft!
Are you sure Sword Autism is not in fact The Zeroth Magic?
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>>4657080
>>Take Shirou to the local museum, there's sure to be some interesting pieces of jewelry in there...
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I don't know if I called the vote yet, it's been quite a while as I had to go and try to peacefully resolve an argument.
10 minutes till calling, I guess.
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"I am literally", "I mean:, "You know". Qm's ticks.
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"Shirou... do you perhaps think that you can instead... project an engagement ring?" You could take the boy out shopping, but this seems like it might have the potential to be far better than just buying Saber something.

"What do you mean?" Shirou hasn't seemed to have realized just what it is you're getting at yet.

"Well, don't you think it would look far more romantic if you actually made the ring in front of Saber herself?" Of course, the whole idea that money would mean anything to Saber is kind of ridiculous, she wouldn't care how much Shirou spent on a ring for her, and would really only care about how genuine the gesture was.

"You're right!" Shirou immediately agrees with your suggestion. "I... think. I think Saber would like it if I could create her something with my own power, but... I can only make copies of things that I've seen before!"

"That's not an issue, is it? All you'll need to do is imagine the most beautiful ring you've seen in your life, and then project it! That is how your magecraft works, right?" Unlimited Blade Works was a cheat code all by itself, Shirou's ability to record practically any weapon or piece of equipment he saw perfectly with just a glance was totally unfair in the grand scheme of things. Of course, you seem to have started to exclusively hang around with people equally broken compared to Shirou, but you weren't going to undersell him because of that.

"I... suppose I can do that." Shirou doesn't sound so certain, but doesn't raise any issues with the idea, you have no idea whether or not Shirou actually ever really takes a proper look at just what he is capable of, or if he just sort of goes with the flow.

"Well... that settles that! Now we just need to figure out the best way to go about this proposal..." Begin to think of just what the best way to get Saber to agree to a marriage proposal would be, should Shirou take her to an all you can eat buffet before doing so? Maybe take her to an amusement park? There's a few things you can imagine doing that would cause Saber to be more receptive to a marriage proposal.

"You know, if we're going to be serious about all this, wouldn't I be better off just going up and asking her? If I'm going to be projecting a ring, is there anything stopping me from doing so now?" Shirou sounds like he just wants to ask the question immediately. Well, you suppose you have been impressing upon him the need for urgency, so it's not like you can really blame him for feeling that the matter is an urgent one.

>"No! You need to properly work up to the question by taking Saber to... (Where?)"
>"Ah screw it. Just ask her."
>Write-in...
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>>4657322
>"Ah screw it. Just ask her."
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>>4657322
>>"Ah screw it. Just ask her."
well he's the one who's proposing, not us, if he thinks this is the right time then do it
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>>4657322
>"Ah screw it. Just ask her."
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>>4657322
As amusing as it might be to drag the party to London to visit Waver and Gray the place we're currently staying at should have suitably romantic garden or some such, no?
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how long has the holy grail war gone on for btw?
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>>4657365
I think it's been going on for like four or five days. Not more then a week at most.
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Not many votes for this one I guess.
15 minutes.
New thread soon.

>>4657365
>>4657395
I managed to lose the timeline document and I've been putting off going back and categorizing things again.
Was it five days?
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>>4657395
We've been around 2 girls that love us for a decade and couldn't seal the deal and Shirou’s already proposing to someone who he's known for a week and she’s probably saying yes. We aren’t as based as him
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>>4657410
Shirou has like...protagonist rank A in terms of based.
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When is WhatIs going to use song links and shit? He never used a single song this entire quest except for Lancelot's theme, and that's only because I called him out on it. Is it because fights don't last more than 3-4 posts in this quest?
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>>4657525
Who cares?
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>>4657526
he does
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>>4657528
He doesn't matter
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>>4657540
neither do you
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>>4657543
Actually
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>>4657545
if anything, you matter less for being a phoneposter
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>>4657549
You matter less bc ywnbaw
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>>4657554
ywnbaw?
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>>4657562
You will never be a woman
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>>4657564
Is that some kind of tranny obsession thing?
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>>4657568
Says the tranny
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What the fuck is this.
I thought that the writers block about writing a god damn marriage proposal was bad but seriously what the fuck are you two doing.

>>4657525
Honestly, I like adding songs, but by the time I've finished a post, I just forget about adding them. I keep intending to post songs but I'm in this weird space where I don't know if I should as I've sort of avoided doing it. I was able to easily do so for Castlevania as I'm incredibly familiar with the OST of each of the games but just slightly less so with Fate.

If there's enough demand, I'll start adding music to the updates though.
Also, the fights would last longer if you allowed them to, it's not my fault that you always go maximum effort with your deathsquads.

Oh, and speaking of my Castlevania Quest, I've still got something of a sequel in mind planned for some point in the future, It will also be somewhat experimental and have two POV characters...
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>>4657594
Nice.
Songs would be cool but like that guy said the pace of fights doesn't really work well for music.
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>>4657594
One of my favorite things about Overgrowth(RIP) was the QMs sound choices so feel free, it would be appreciated.
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>>4657594
Why not pick songs you think fit even if they're not from fate or type moon
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>>4657624
That might work.

As for the update, it's a re-opened vote.
I'm going to bed in the hopes that tomorrow I can write something that doesn't make my soul cringe.
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>>4657322
No! You need to properly work up to the question by taking Saber to... (Where?)"the zoo especially the lion exhibit
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>>4657322
>"Ah screw it. Just ask her."

I really need to quit my job so I can be around for updates more.
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>>4657647
It's okay, being out of your comfort zone will be good for you in the long run. Or so I'm told.
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>>4657322
wont a projected ring just cease to exist eventually
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>>4657672
It should in theory.
In practice however, Shirou's projections last forever unless dismissed because fuck thermodynamics.
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>>4657684
but the world tries to erase it, so they do, i think, been too long since i read fsn
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>>4657647
>I can write something that doesn't make my soul cringe.
Are you prepared for scene of soppy reunion with Medea?
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>>4657862
There will be no cringe in that one. Only tears and embraces.
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>>4657862
If I have my way it will be the most beautiful meeting ever put to pen. We will never abandon her.
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As cringe as this whole scenario is I insist the prompt of asking morud to be the flower girl IC be done at least once, presented deadpan serious as a thing children typically do when their parents are married in modern times.
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>>4657937
>chooses Heracles/Alcides over her
Just like Jason!

>>4657940
I can't believe we're going along with Mordred's bullshit.
God damn I feel like this marriage proposal thing is a prelude to a nightmare. What about Rin?
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>>4657940
>>4657963
Betty should be flower girl.
Mordred should be the one doing the ceremony since she the law.
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>>4657963
>chooses Heracles/Alcides
We gave a promise to Illya.
>What about Rin?
What about her?
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>>4657971
More to bully morud. But sure, Betty can conjure some bodyhorror organ bouquets and then Manaka can send Giles in as a guest to add more lovely lovecraftian summons to the occasion
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>>4657973
Weren't we going to marry her off to Shirou?
How is she going to third wheel a marriage?
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>>4657977
>Weren't we going to marry her off to Shirou?
We were? That's the first time I hear about that.
In any case it's not like we were actively pushing Saber and Shirou together.
Rin had plenty of chances at shiroubowl not our fault she didn't take them.
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>>4657977
Rin has her own iteration of Shirou. Well not right now but soon enough.
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I just realized that a Betty/Rider mystic eye combo would be super deadly.
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Now that I can finally post again (thanks Texas) because I have power and internet. Allow me to cast my vote.
>>4657651
Support
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>>4657594
Sounds kinda interesting, but now I'm becoming concerned about Arthur's future.
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>>4657995
She was preoccupied with a lot of stuff which is understandable and us taking over Rin's role as Shirou’s mentor made it harder for them to grow close
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>>4657594
Actually I been meaning to check your Castlevania Quest so I guess it is proper time to do so before second part starts.
I am looking forward to see that was that plot twist bunch of anons has been whining about in overall drama before this quest went on hiatus.
>>4658129
It is somewhat sad that we took every major plot role from her leaving her as tag-along side character.
Rin is hardly the most pleasant person to spend time with but I hope she gets to do something.
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Am I the only one who thinks it's really fucked up how Shinji seems to view Touko not helping him with Sakura as a good thing? I mean he's effectively saying that it's a good thing that his sister was sexually abused in the most horrifying way imaginable on a regular basis because it helped motivate him.
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>>4658156
It is. But keep in mind that despite being good person with good intentions Shinji is still a bit mental with his reality marble. Numerous times he referred to non-named characters as NPCs and ponder if people around him actually have free will.
And it is not like we voted for fastest Sakura rescue possible either.
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>>4658151
well we don't even really interact with her that much because we refuse to for some reason, she does have some level of importance too, being Sakura's big sister and key to being able to use Zelretch's sword

>>4658156
Right? I would least feel like we would hold some type of grudge even if Touko has been a big help to us, especially since Aoko would've instantly solved our problems if we tagged along with her
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>>4658156
Well if you put it that way you make it sound bad, but asking someone to go against Zouken is not a trivial thing you could expect someone to do out of nowhere and she did enable us to do it at all by unlocking our circuits and helping us keep them concealed.
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>>4658156
She did help him though.
Without Touko Shinji would have to open his own circuits and learn magic without a genius magic teacher which would make it much harder to save Sakura.
>>4658159
>grudge
She had no obligation to either help him or teach him magic. She did Shinji a big favor. Just because Aoko would do him a bigger favor does not devalue Touko's help.
>>4658158
>And it is not like we voted for fastest Sakura rescue possible either.
We did. The moment we had access to Truth magic to cleanse Sakura's body of worms we saved her.
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>>4658159
Let me put it this way.
Touko didn't have to help Shinji at all, and seeing as she's practically a wanted fugitive half of the time to the Mage's Association, doing something like killing Zouken for her would be painting a huge target on herself for your sake.
Also, she's literally the only reason that you're capable of dealing with the war as well as you are. Shinji was actually fairly complacent about the war going his way, and if he didn't have as much motivation to learn he may have just coasted.

Touko helped you an incredible amount, why would Shinji hold a grudge against somebody who from the beggining basically decided to help him out with no true compensation?
It's not like she's some sort of vigilante that goes around killing evil magi, and in the grand scheme of things, what Zouken was doing was actually fairly low-ranking on the sliding scale of magus dickery.
Remember that Atrum basically had a warehouse of kidnapped women he liquified for mana crystals.
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>>4658164
With all meta knowledge? Hardly.
I do like the way it happened and choosing the most secure way to help her seems like one of the best possible way to do so.
>>4658167
>Atrum
I was really expecting for you to set up us fighting him as our first target one way or the other. Really wanted for Shinji to kill the guy.
Also can you spoil us what would happen if we went to partake in Case Files?
I remember some anon argued it was good idea to test powers there.
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>>4658172
>With all meta knowledge? Hardly.
What was the alternative? Take her to Kirei?
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>>4658172
>I was really expecting for you to set up us fighting him as our first target one way or the other.
Yeah but he's such an asshole that Medea betrays him basically a few hours after he summons her.
He's not even close to a threat.

>Also can you spoil us what would happen if we went to partake in Case Files?
Case Files as a whole would've just been you trolling Waver by reaching the correct answer to whatever was going on before he had even begun to narrow it down as you kept calling yourself the Mycroft to his Sherlock.
Case Files would quickly be ruined and Heartless would've ended up being executed by a whole bunch of Enforcers real quick.
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>>4658177
>Case Files
The real question is, could we convince Olga Marie to let us carry her around and pat her head constantly like Dr. Evil does with his cat whenever he makes a declaration.
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>>4658174
Kirei, Aoko, Kiritsugu.
Each one has pros and cons but the way I see it those were pretty easy to set up in some ways without much of an effort.
There was also Waver and later Gray as well. And while asking them to help before we did would have been harder it still looks like a solid option.
Plus all meta knowledge we had seems like a good bargain chip with a lot of powerful people since we were aware about Tsukihime also happening. While dangerous I would image some people from Church or Association might have been temped.
Maybe Monika would have leveled the mansion with him inside if we just talked with her after we got some real money.
Just off the top of head.
>>4658177
A lot of fun never happened. I understand why majority of people voted for skipping but shame.
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>>4658187
All those options are pointless without deworming Sakura first.
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>>4658192
I am sure there is at least one freelancing spiritual surgeon if we were to avoid big names.
I am not in favour of gambling like this and I like they way we did it all but I am certain it was never that impossible to do.
Hell, a lot of anons wanted to go with the rape just because Servant would have secured even more of a safe kill.
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>>4658179
i feel bad for olga, we should try to do something with her after the war ends and we conquer england.
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>>4658177
>Case Files would quickly be ruined and Heartless would've ended up being executed by a whole bunch of Enforcers real quick.
Figured as much, glad we skipped it.
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>>4658227
Speaking of conquering England we would probably do well to make some beachhead on the media market there and take over some strategic pieces of British infrastructure before the Chinese are invited. And maybe some NGOs to provide Mordred with platform to stand on. If the improved charisma is as powerful as its cracked up to be she should be able to take the country over without a shot. And maybe rest of EU alongside with it.
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I've gotten something written again, just let me read over it like 10 times while I decide whether I like it or not.
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You know what? Shirou is right. If you actually want this to happen, then there's no sense in trying to plan for some massive romantic event where Shirou proposes to Saber. Neither of the two of them actually care for the traditional social conventions of modern life, after all. Saber because she's from over a thousand years in the past and Shirou because he's Shirou. "Ah screw it. Just go ahead. I can't think of anything that would really fit for this, and especially not on short notice." Yeah, organizing some sort of special engagement for the two of them in the middle of a war like this is kind of a bad idea.

"So... should I just... go up to her and ask her then?" You're actually kind of impressed that Shirou is just deciding to go along with this plan. He must really love Saber a whole lot if the mere suggestion that he might not get the chance to do something like this with her in the future is enough to cause him to want to propose immediately. Well, you knew that he loved Saber a massive amount, but damn if this isn't a sudden decision from him. You were expecting to actually properly have to convince him as he remained uncertain about the idea throught the entirety of your plan, but instead now it feels like the opposite is happening.

"I uh. I guess?" You don't really know what Saber is going to say about this, but at the same time you can't exactly envision the woman denying the request. Even if it's a very sudden one, Shirou suddenly peeks out the door at Saber and faintly blushes. What are you, a schoolgirl?! "What are you waiting for anyway? I do still want to go out with everyone for one last investigation tonight, so just... go! Do it!" Shirou has a worried smile on his face as you try to usher him back into the lobby, looks like despite being the one to suggest doing so without actually doing anything to prepare for it, the boy is being hit by a sudden case of the nerves. Too bad Shirou! This is officially your idea as well now!

You basically push the boy back out into the lobby, and soon follow after him. This is the weirdest marriage proposal you think you're ever going to be a part of. At least you hope so. You give Shirou a reaffirming pat on the back before you push him back towards Saber, and he soon walks straight up to the girl who is in the middle of a conversation with Illya about something.

"S-Saber!" Shirou sputters out the name of his Servant. "N-no. Arturia!" Then he decides to instead use his Servants actual name, it's not like anyone here is unaware of who Saber actually is. "I... I wanted to ask you something, and I don't know if I'll get the chance to do so if I wait until the end of the war!" Shirou is basically tripping on his own words. Is he actually going to do it, or is he going to back out? His left hand is clenched tightly as he approaches his Servant and lover.
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"What's on your mind, Shirou?" Saber's voice is full of concern for her Master, she must've thought that something had gotten to him as she looked at the awkward half smile on his face.

Shirou clears his throat and begins to raise his clenched fist. He's uncertain about what action he should take next and you can tell that from here. Come on Shirou, you can do it! Just have faith in yourself! You silently cheer him on as he looks Saber in the eyes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-1LZ5S3awY

"Arturia... Will you... Marry me?" Shirou suddenly clenches his hand and in a flash of blue light, a golden ring appears. Inset into the ring is a large sapphire that has been delicately cut perfectly into the shape of the head of a roaring lion, studded around the lion's head are over a dozen diamonds. You don't even know if such a priceless looking piece of jewelry even exists in the modern era! Where on Earth did he see something like that?

There's a flash of recognition in the Saber's eyes as she stares at the ring in Shirou's hands, and she remains completely silent for a moment. Shirou looks horribly awkward as he is basically frozen handing her the ring. But then, to the surprise of everyone in the room, Saber begins to cry. Tears welling up in her eyes as she looks at the beautiful object being offered to her. She slowly reaches out and takes the ring from Shirou. "Of... Of course. But... how did you know?" There's a weak smile on Saber's face as she puts it on her finger.

"I... simply saw a beautiful ring in a dream, and I thought that it... would be better if you were the one to receive it... instead of give it." Shirou says, his voice warm with affection, and you realize just what that engagement ring Shirou ended up using was! It's... It's the damn engagement ring Arturia used to propose to Guinevere! You... you damn...! You find yourself confusingly jealous at witnessing the display. Shirou having managed to somehow without thinking perform an action far more romantic than anything you could think of! He's effectively used Saber's own engagement ring as the perfect way to tell her that this time she would get to be a bride instead of forcing herself to pretend that she's something she isn't! Is this idiot a genius?!

Saber takes a deep breath as she looks at the ring on her hand and then back to Shirou before finally speaking in a voice without regret. "Shirou... I love you." There's a true smile on Saber's face as she looks at Shirou, and this time there's no bright flash of light that's going to make her disappear either like after she professed her love to Shirou at the end of the Fate route. You find yourself vindicated at this for some reason, but you don't really know why.
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You are completely speechless. Not at the fact that the Servant and Master in front of you officially get engaged, but by how Shirou handled the situation in the best way he possibly could have. The rest of the room however are very much baffled by the development. Illya tugs on one of Shirou's sleeves with a baffled look on her face "W-wait. Onii-chan... did you really just marry your Servant?" She's completely caught off guard by the sudden change in atmosphere, as is everyone else.

Everyone of course, except Mordred, who finally sees this as her opportunity to enter the room. "Fa-" She begins before stopping. "Moth-" She begins once more before she stops for a second time, looking at the blushing bridge standing next to Saber, as even Mordred's arrival wasn't enough to affect Saber's mood right now at all. "Arturia!" Mordred eventually settles on calling Saber by her true name as well, and you suppose that's about as good as you're going to get. "My congratulations on the proposal!" There's an actual happy smile on Mordred's face as she approaches the two fiancees. Mordred is getting closer and closer to the two of them, and while Saber doesn't seem to have reacted with hostility to the arrival of her daughterson you don't know if it's a good idea to let Mordred reveal that this was all her plan.

>Just don't intervene. What will happen will happen.
>Intervene with the conversation, steer Mordred away from saying anything stupid.
>Bring up the fact that you still all need to go out and actually investigate.
>Tackle Mordred to the ground to prevent her from ruining the moment.
>Write-in...
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Only ten more threads need to be posted to the board before I can finally make another thread,
God help us all.
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>>4658267
>Just don't intervene. What will happen will happen.
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>>4658267
Just don't intervene. What will happen will happen.
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>>4658267
>>Just don't intervene. What will happen will happen.
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>>4658267
>Just don't intervene. What will happen will happen.
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>>4658267
>>Just don't intervene. What will happen will happen.
We're pretty good at match making distracting all other love interests as Shirou finds his one true love
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>>4658267
>Just don't intervene. What will happen will happen.
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>>4658267
>Mordred, I beseech you, let them have this moment.
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Calling in twenty
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>>4658267
>Just don't intervene. What will happen will happen

Let them make up. No need to make things worse after such a happy moment.
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>>4658272
Correct me if I’m being dumb but isn’t there a way for QMs to archive old threads manually after they are done? I remember hearing about this but I don’t exactly know if it is true (seeing as I am not a QM)
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> It's the damn engagement ring Arturia used to propose to Guinevere
Shirou is a genius and we're required to Hollow Ataraxia everything so our best bro can be with his waifu instead of having to wait for her for an eternity
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While as Mordred's advisor, you feel like it might be a good idea to interfere here in case the woman ends up accidentally managing to cause a fight, though it's clearly not her intention in this case. Mordred actually seems genuinely happy at seeing Saber actually get to be happy. The relationship between the two women really is quite a strange one, you suppose. Still, you remain on the sidelines, ready to intervene with Betty if you must, though both of them at this point were really far too powerful for you to be able to do much against them should things devolve into a fight. You suppose that Arcueid could probably stop the two of them if she felt like it, but that's really only if she felt like it.

Arturia stares at Mordred, tears still rolling down her eyes as a result of Shirou's gesture. This is it, the moment of truth. "Mordred." Saber's voice isn't cold as she says the name of her child. "I am... sorry for attacking you earlier today. I... lost control of my senses and lashed out."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEylApMcmNM

"That's fine! In fact, I was happy!" Mordred flashes Saber a toothy grin, and for a moment you don't actually get it at all. "The fact that you were angry and not just cold and calculating! You've started to think for yourself, Fa- Arturia." She corrects herself, apparently needing to make a conscious effort not to refer to Saber as her father. "You're free from having to suffer from the burden of being the King of Britain now." Mordred is actually acting remarkably mature! You're actually very glad you didn't step in! "And..." Mordred suddenly draws her blade, Caliburn Camlann. "With this, the prophecy of your eventual return as King has been severed as well." Having acquired the official recognition from Caliburn of her kingship, it seems that Mordred had managed to realize just what it was that she truly wanted to do. She wanted to save her 'father' from the suffering that being the king brought to them, and in turn take that suffering for themselves. A desire for nothing more than to receive the love and adulation of her beloved parent no matter the cost.

"You... were happy?" Saber echoes, though clearly it was the rest of Mordred's words that truly shake her to her core. The realization that Mordred wasn't simply some brute who wanted to claim the throne for her own means or for her sister, but somebody who all this time truly cared for her well-being. Saber could feel her heart ache at the memory of cutting down her own child, when all they had done had been out of some misguided and twisted wish to relieve the burden Saber had taken upon herself. Even in their final battle, it wasn't by Mordred's will that Saber was fatally wounded, but a curse placed upon her body that allowed for her corpse to lethally strike Arturia, courtesy of Morgan.
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"Of course I was happy! Don't worry, from now on, I'll be the one to take care of Britain! You just... have a happy life with your husband, alright?" Mordred tries to give her best smile as she looks at Arturia and Shirou. This... wasn't nearly as foolish a plan from Mordred as you had first imagined. While there were certainly better ways for her to go about having two people marry, there aren't many ways to get it done this quickly.

"Mordred..." Saber looks her child in the eyes. "I... wanted to apologize for... something else too." Saber is clearly having some difficulty as she starts trying to search for the words to say to her wayward child. "Back then, the way I treated you... I... wish I hadn't shunned you." Mordred flinches backwards in surprise at the words being spoken to her by Saber. "I was... wrong not to acknowledge you as my child, but... we've both been given a second chance now. We both understand that better than anybody else." Saber breaks away from Shirou in order to stand close to the girl, and with sadness in her eyes, she slowly hugs Mordred, who was paralyzed by the sudden action being taken by towards her. "That's why from this point onwards, even if Caliburn did so first, I will recognize you as the rightful heir to the Pendragon name, as well as..." Saber breath hitches. "As well as my one and only child, my... my daughter."

You can only stand in muted shock as you watch the scene fold out before you. Mordred's seemingly harebrained scheme to get her father to marry a Japanese highschooler has somehow ended in Mordred receiving both acceptance, recognition and acknowledgment from the person she respects the most in the entire world. "Father..." Mordred quietly croaks out a single word as she is overwhelmed by her own emotions, and now it's her turn to cry, her tears trailing down her cheeks and her mouth smiling.

"If you have to call me something, Mordred, would 'Mother' be so bad? Morgan has long since either died or retreated away from the physical world by now." Looks like Saber feels as awkward about Mordred calling her 'father' all the time as you do about it, and is hoping to see that particular form of address vanish. "I know I would prefer being referred to as a woman now, at least." There's no reason for Saber to continue wanting to hide the fact that she's a girl anymore, after all.

"Ok... Mother." Mordred smiles, apparently not minding switching how she addressed Saber from Father to Mother.

For what you felt like was just a pointless waste of time and a distraction from what was really important, you're immensely glad you played along with Mordred's little scheme. She might not have had this particular outcome in mind when she set out to try to get Shirou to marry Saber.
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The moment of Saber and Mordred finally connecting as family passes quickly, and you do still have an investigation to get on with.

>Go alone with Betty.
>Take a smaller group of people. (Who?)
>Ask who wants to come and who wants to stay, as it will probably just be boring Recon.
>Take everyone.
>Write-in...
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>>4658554
>Go alone with Betty
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>>4658554
>Ask who wants to come and who wants to stay, as it will probably just be boring Recon.
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>>4658554
This really went much better than expected.

>Ask who wants to go as it will probably be boring recon
However, Betty comes with us if course and Touko and presumably Lugh with her might want to come as well as it is related to her own hunt for Rizo.

Mordred might be helpful in knowing the place but if she wants some family time it should be fine.
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>>4658554
>>Ask who wants to come and who wants to stay, as it will probably just be boring Recon.
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>>4658554
>Ask who wants to come and who wants to stay, as it will probably just be boring Recon.
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Calling in 30
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>>4658554
>Ask who wants to come and who wants to stay, as it will probably just be boring Recon.
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>>4658554
yay
>>Ask who wants to come and who wants to stay, as it will probably just be boring Recon.
Also this thread will reach 3k posts if this continues.
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>>4658550
isnt this the realisation that mordred has at the end of apocrypha
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>>4658654
Yes, but in this case she had it the moment she drew Caliburn.
It was sort of a moment of major introspection for her.
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>>4658663
i see
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Giving Saber and Mordred time to adjust themselves and return to their normal emotional states, you wait before you decide to make your announcement that there will indeed still be an investigation for the night. You don't want to hurry things along after the two just had their moment together. Mordred quickly moves back to your side, though she doesn't say anything to you just yet, clearly still recovering from the emotional shock of finally being accepted by her... man it's actually kind of weird to think of the two as Mother and Daughter but here you are. Every one of Mordred's wishes were basically granted in a single day.

After a minute of silence though, you feel as if it is finally time to announce your plans. Everyone with the exception of Touko is in the lobby, even Miho and Ibaraki are kind of just milling about awkwardly in a corner, you don't know why Lugh decided to show up when Touko herself is absent but you guess it's fine. Arcueid, her expression amused, is sitting on a sofa next to Satsuki, who is fidgeting a little. In fact, you notice that more than a few girls around the room seem to be acting a little more awkwardly than usual. Illya and Sakura have faint blushes on their face. Mordred is standing awfully close to you right now as well... Rin however just kind of looks depressed. Aoko and Shiki are obviously still absent too, though honestly, you don't know if either of them could really be called your allies at this point. Neither of them have actually really agreed to help you, after all. Betty is staring into space and apparently daydreaming about something. You also catch sight of a man about your height wearing a blue hooded cloak sitting on one of the ceiling rafters, though when he catches you looking up at him he gives you a friendly smile. SHIKI has seemingly decided to disguise his identity and his presence, at least within the Tohno mansion. Oh man, explaining things to Ciel is going to be something you can really deal without. She might be happy at the existence of another survivor of Roa's control though, and she's definitely going to be pleased by the permanent and ultimate destruction of Roa.

After checking the status of everyone in the room, Illya's maids notwithstanding. "Alright then, everyone. I'm going to be checking out the place in town that I was imprisoned in yesterday, some sort of dungeon, this will likely be our last endeavor for the night, and potentially the last thing we do in Misaki Town before we return to Fuyuki City. Now, I'm not going to ask anybody to come, as it will probably just be boring recon work, so if anybody would like to come with me and Betty, they need to speak up now."
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"I'm going with you, Advisor." Mordred says as if it were the most obvious thing in the world, before anybody else even gets the chance to say anything. "I can't afford anything happening to you, can I? Even if there's no obvious threat, you should always be prepared." There's a warm smile on Mordred's face as she seems to praise you for your abilities. Though you don't really feel like you've personally done much to aid Mordred. In fact, most of the actions that ended benefiting Mordred have just been you telling Shirou to do something. Kind of funny how it has worked out that way. It's strange for Mordred to occasionally have these bouts of wisdom, could it be a result of her drawing Caliburn?

"I'm going as well!" Sakura suddenly blurts out, though she looks a little embarrassed as she does. It's just a reconnaissance mission, you don't need to get all embarrassed about it, Sakura. It's just a simple investigation!

"Sure, it could be fun." This time it's Arcueid who states her intentions to give with you. You have no idea what exactly sounds fun to Arcueid about looking around a prison cell, but sure, whatever.

"M-me too!" Satsuki also pipes in. Why are you starting to get a really bad feeling about all this?

"Ah, it's not like I was doing anything else, I'll go with you guys." Lugh steps forward now. Why would he even be interested in the idea of just investigating? Though you aren't going to complain, you're fairly certain that his senses are the greatest of any of your allies due to the nature of his abilities, you actually doubt that even Arcueid would be a match for Lugh in that department.

"I'd like to go, but I don't think Onii-chan and his future wife will want to celebrate their engagement by rummaging around some prison." Illya shakes her head. "Besides, I think that you've already got more than enough people going with you, so I'm going to stay here and properly congratulate him." Illya doesn't seem to want to go looking around a dungeon for clues. Especially not when she's just got to witness her brother getting married in front of her. You wonder for a moment what Kiritsugu would think if he saw this scene playing out in front of him. You actually almost guffaw when you realize that this technically means Kiritsugu counts as Arturia's father-in-law now. Finding out what happened to him and whether he's still alive or not will have to wait though.

You look back up to the rafters for SHIKI, though there's no trace of him. What, is he a ninja now? Disappearing when people aren't looking at you is just kind of rude. Whatever, wherever he went, it's not like you'll need another person on the mission with you. Illya is right, this is getting rather cramped. Rin doesn't say anything, and just remains as she is, looking miserable on a sofa.
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You don't even extend the offer to Shirou. He deserves the night off, you think. After successfully managing to propose to Saber, you feel like no man would really want to immediately have to head out onto the city streets in order to look for evidence of vampire activities.

"Well alright, looks like it's settled then. You guys do realize that we probably won't find any enemies, right?" Your magical energy reserves are still too low for you to be able to deal with any serious enemies, and you'd need to basically rely only on the assistance of Betty and the rest of your allies in order to keep safe should a fight actually begin. You hate being low on magical energy.

"I don't really mind. I just enjoy spending time with you, Shinji." Arcueid states carelessly, and manages to earn a glare from the other girls and... strangely Lugh? The glares range from wary to dangerous looking, and you don't really know what to make of them all. You really have managed to get yourself in a terribly dangerous situation, haven't you?

"H-haha. Uh, moving on. It's not that far a walk from here, so shall we set off?" You don't hear any complaints from the group who had decided they wanted to go with you, so without further delay, you all leave the mansion. The silence as you walk through the streets is uncomfortable. Nobody seems to know how to spark up a conversation. Mordred is sticking close to your side as Betty skips next to you happily.

You get about halfway to the dungeon till you notice what seems to be a sword sticking out of the middle of the road, sunk straight into the asphalt of the road. When you get closer to the sword, you can see that it's a black key! A member of the church must be nearby! Could it be Ciel? You spot something tied to the handle of the black key, some sort of note! Whoever put this thing here is obviously trying to get in touch with you. But it could also be a trap... Should you trust this note?

>Read the note.
>Ignore the sword and just walk past it.
>Just take a detour and avoid getting any closer to the sword.
>Call out to Ciel, ask her to stop playing silly games.
>Ask Mordred, Lugh and Arcueid if they can feel anybody nearby.
>Write-in...
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>>4658893
>>Ask Mordred, Lugh and Arcueid if they can feel anybody nearby.
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>>4658893
>Ask Mordred, Lugh and Arcueid if they can feel anybody nearby.
This is just a bait for us to get kidnapped again isn't it?
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Maybe we should ask Sakura to grab the note with her ribbons in case there is some magical trap or something.
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>>4658893
>>Read the note.
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>>4658893
>Ask Mordred, Lugh and Arcueid if they can feel anybody nearby.
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>>4658893
>Ask Mordred, Lugh and Arcueid if they can feel anybody nearby.
>Call out to Ciel, ask her to stop playing silly games.
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>>4658903
Not everything is going to end up with you getting kidnapped.
Sometimes you'll just die.
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>>4658893
>Ask Mordred, Lugh and Arcueid if they can feel anybody nearby.
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>>4658889
>Rin however just looks kind of depressed
Rin really got shafted in our Shinji route huh? She lost her servant early on, her long lost sister clearly prefers being with us, and the boy she had a crush on for the longest time in school married another girl he met literally a few weeks ago. All of her pride as a "prodigy magus" is thoroughly crushed by all the powerhouses surrounding her and she also has almost no one to confide in about her insecurities and it must be killing her on the inside. I hope we can interact with her more and cheer her up as a friend.
>>4658893
>Ask Mordred, Lugh and Arcueid if they can feel anybody nearby.
>Call out to Ciel, ask her to stop playing silly games.
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>>4658893
Read the note
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>>4658988
Yeah I actually feel bad now, unironically the best time to show her that we care about her and that we're there for her is to talk to her after this development and maybe like buy her a shit ton of gems or something she could use them

>>4658893
>>Call out to Ciel, ask her to stop playing silly games.
>>Ask Mordred, Lugh and Arcueid if they can feel anybody nearby.
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>>4658988
We really need to talk to rin at some point to see if she is ok.
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>>4658893
is the note inside something or can you maybe read it from far?
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>>4658953
Mr QM was this the last update for today? Can I go to sleep after voting?

>>4658988
>her long lost sister clearly prefers being with us
Sakura spends half of the week with Rin. That's so much better than in original.
>the boy she had a crush on for the longest time in school married another girl
That's what happens when you don't do anything about your crush for years. Just like in real life.

>>4658994
>buy her a shit ton of gems
Aren't we already doing that? Haven't we been bankrolling her magic research ever since we saved Sakura?
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Ok I actually feel really bummed out for Rin now, we kinda sorta took everything that she has, we pushed Shirou to propose to Saber, her little sister is basically devoted to us, and we're just a straight up better Magus who's messed with the root and has the approval of 2 users of True Magic, Arcueid and Alaya. She literally has nothing over us and we have everything she's ever wanted, I don't wanna leave her to stew in those shitty feelings, that isn't a golden ending for her at all
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>>4659030
Yeah but Sakura is a sore spot for her, she gets mad at Shirou when she found out Sakura spends a lot of time with him, it must hurt for her to love the person who's apart of the family that took her away. And yeah your crush marrying someone other than you happens but it still stings when it happens, especially when it feels like there might be a chance for you. Also I kinda forgot if we bankroll her or not
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>>4659034
We didn't take anything from her.
We saved her sister and gave her huge amounts of money.
We didn't push Shirou to fall in love with Saber. Rin had years to interact with the guy and yet she lost to a girl he knew for a week.
People whom she likes not liking her back is hardly our fault.
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>>4659030
You can go to sleep.
Busy workloads have been screwing with my ability to update.

And about Rin, I have something special planned for her. I think you might like what I've got in stock, at least. Well, maybe, maybe not.
Reducing a main character of F/SN to an irrelevant side character would be a sin.
I'll let you guys decide just what this post means.
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>>4659051
We turn her into a cube?
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>>4659050
>Rin had years to interact with the guy and yet she lost to a girl he knew for a week.
The Sakura experience.
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>>4658893
>>Ask Mordred, Lugh and Arcueid if they can feel anybody nearby.

>>4659051
>You can go to sleep.
Thank you mr QM.
>I have something special planned for her
I hope it's a good kind of special and not the one that will bring in forced drama.
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>>4659054
It's not like we decided to refute her advances.
Half of the anons want harem route so she has a lot of chances.
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>>4659062
I'm talking about Fate and UBW Sakura, anon.
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>>4659062
I think QM is talking about the original VN where Shirou in 2/3 routes chooses girls he's only known for like, 2 weeks over her, the girl that cooks his food, cleans his house and is the first thing he sees everyday for the past few years
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>>4659068
>>4659073
I see. My bad.
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>>4659051
magical girl rin
that would be a interesting power boost even without the cards.
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>>4659051
At least she isn't reduced to a side character, she's been feeling that way and ik we're getting some Shiki, SHIKI, Shirou, Shinji tag team, it would suck that we don't go on some sort of adventure or have to solve a problem with her
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Rin final boss confirmed.
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>>4659051
Make Rin finish the Jewels Sword, that ought to fix some of her problems
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>>4658893
>Call out to Ciel, ask her to stop playing silly games.
>Ask Mordred, Lugh and Arcueid if they can feel anybody nearby.
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>>4658893
>Ask Mordred, Lugh and Arcueid if they can feel anybody nearby.
>Call out to Ciel, ask her to stop playing silly games.
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>>4658893
>Read the note
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Am I missing something? How do we know that this black key belongs to Ciel? It could belong to any random church agent right?
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>>4658893
>Read the note.
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>>4658893
>Read the note.
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>>4659323
That is the gamble the Call Out voters are making.
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>>4658960
>>4658893
switching to
Read the note.
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For some reason i'm now imagining how things would run if instead of Shinji we isekai'd as Kirei. Mainly because i love that son of a bitch.
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>>4658903
>>4658893
Switching to
>Call out to Ciel, ask her to stop playing silly games.
>Ask Mordred, Lugh and Arcueid if they can feel anybody nearby.
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>>4659497
Before or after fourth war?
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>>4659497
What would our goal be?
To make things worse for the characters?
Just to bully Rin?
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>>4659501
As soon as he summons Assassin.

>>4659503
I mean, we're already well versed in that last one.
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I say we go to Rin's room and kiss her when we get back.
I think she is just being tsundere towards a guy who responds to such behaviour like an asshole.
She clearly wants in on the Shinjibowl
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>>4659514
Why would we do that? We already have a dozen women after us.
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>>4659515
What's one more woman then?
I don't want Rin to be sad.
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>>4659517
Chasing after Shinji is more stressful than anything.
We wouldn't be doing her a favor.
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>>4659517
Just because she didn't get Shirou doesn't mean that her world is going to end. There are pleasures in life other than autistic penis.
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>>4659514
Bruh
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>>4658893
>>Call out to Ciel, ask her to stop playing silly games.
>>Ask Mordred, Lugh and Arcueid if they can feel anybody nearby.
I just realized that we had a tie.
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>>4658893
>Call out to Ciel, ask her to stop playing silly games.
Forgot to vote.
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>>4659517
>What's one more woman then?
One more saddened heart, if not her then someone else she’d snatch victory from.

Surely even though eroge cast is naturally skewed to female bias there are other guys out there, even if she doesn’t turn into a nun.
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>>4659526
>one more saddened heart
If we don't go harem sure.
At this point though, we've got too many powerful women after us that won't accept defeat.
If we pick one alone, lives may be lost.
The only one who would really give a shit about monogamy is Sakura and she already wants to do something taboo as we're adoptive siblings.
Medea shouldn't care so long as we love her.
Arc actually tags along for Ciels good end.
Tamamo was a mistress once before.
Satsuki will take what she gets.
Alaya is everyone anyway.
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>>4659530
Will Touko join the Shinibowl?
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>>4659530
So it's peace through mutually assured destruction then?
I wonder if that's a better policy for individuals than it is for nations.
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>>4659530
Eh, out of the whole lot the only one that I'd say would lash out violently is Tamamo, but she already is going to need to be handled violently regardless.
I wouldn't suspect Sakura of going dark over this, not even with Tiamat passenger.
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>>4659533
Touko is 50/50 since she occasionaly blushes around shinji but at the same time she doesn't actively pursue shinji aside from the harem date scene.
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>>4659546
Just need to push her a bit and she'll join the 99/100 club.
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>>4659051
>Busy workloads have been screwing with my ability to update.
You say that but you have over five 1000+ threads on the board right now.
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>>4659540
When we beat Tamamo we need to pull off her extra tails and have Shiki death point them.
Then she'll be safe to harem.
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>>4659568
I'm still vetoing this fox on the basis of her destroying the life of anyone she marries.
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>>4659568
Shiki is not going with us to Fuyuki tho.
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>>4659570
She can be a mistress then.
Easy solution.
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>>4659570
She is fine in Extra/Extella.
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>>4659572
We'll teleport him in with Medea.
Simple shit.
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>>4659573
She will poison us and usurp control of our organization with charm magic.
She is a chronic mass-murderer who brings ruin to anyone she gets close to.
Her entire legend is about loving someone you shouldn't and having it destroy your life.
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>>4659579
Timelines aside by the time of Extella Link she is part of Hakuno`s harem and clearly below both Nero and Altera in internal ranking.
For all her big talk she immediately caves in after any major confrontation and mostly reduced to giving friendly advices as a caster class Servant.
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>>4659579
Stop bullying her.
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>>4659585
She has had only one tail in Extella.
She has four now.
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>>4659588
That means nothing.
She is our wife.
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>>4659585
I don't really care about what happens with her in Extella because here she's chasing us around in an attempt to force us to marry her.
>>4659587
She has no concept of honor or loyalty, she will ruin us before moving on to the next man.
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>>4659588
Of course extra tails make her more dangerous and unstable but I was commenting on her character traits.
She can even get outdone by Medusa.
https://youtu.be/J9aJCGWf-T4
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>>4659590
That means her personality is probably differs from what we saw in Extella.
She can be a>>4659590
s unstable and dangerous as Altrouge if a little less sadistic.
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>>4659596
Speaking of Alt, I think we should give her to Satsuki when we beat her.
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>>4659600
What's Satsuki going to do with her?
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>>4659601
I don't know, kill her?
Make her a maid?
Invite her to the Back Alley Alliance?
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>>4659600
What for? Satsuki is not going to torture her.
We should just kill her.
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>>4659602
I just think we should let Satsuki be the one to decide what happens to her.
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>>4659606
But seriously, what would she do besides kill her?
Make Alt clean her carpet?
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>>4659612
Try to be friends with her. It's Satsuki.
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>>4659613
Be friends with the girl that killed her and tried to make her boyfriend into a bdsm slave?
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>>4659602
>>4659613
This is retarded.
Altrouge is one of our most dangerous enemies. Leaving her alive is just asking to get backstabbed.
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>>4658893
>Call out to Ciel, ask her to stop playing silly games.
>>Ask Mordred, Lugh and Arcueid if they can feel anybody nearby.
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>>4659593
As much as Shinji in-character not a fan of marriage with Tamamo he is aware of all meta knowledge and weight it in every decisions in presented options.
I feel it will ultimately come down to how war will go and her part in it. As of now she is hardly the top priority.
>>4659602
>Make her a maid?
As it was foretold.
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>>4659617
Yes.
This is the girl who tries to befriend Roa in melty.
I want Satsuki to bully Alt into becoming good after surpassing her.
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>>4659624
You are just too much of a simp to kill the bitch who tortured our friend to death.
Are you going to argue that we shouldn't kill Strout or Primate Murder?
No you won't since they don't have a pussy.
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>>4659631
>Are you going to argue that we shouldn't kill Strout or Primate Murder?
Are you retarded?
Of course we aren't going to kill Fou.
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>>4659636
Until proven otherwise I'm assuming we're dealing with the original concept for Primate Murder and not the fluffy FGO mascot.
After all, he did almost eviscerate us that one time.
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>>4659636
Lmao.
Sorry anon I didn't realize you were trolling.
You had me until this post you know.
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>>4659636
There's no Fou in this world.
Primate Murder is a dangerous beast and we are going to bring it's head to Alaya.
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>>4659639
>>4659641
No reason we can't throw him in Sakura's Beast Rehab till he agrees to become a cute mascot character.
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>>4659652
That would be foolish, Cath Palug is the natural enemy of prettyboy wizards.
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>>4659652
I completely support this idea.
Feeding PM to Tiamat is pretty cruel but I like it.
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>>4659647
No anon, there's no Fou in this world YET.
We can't kill it without it just respawning somewhere.
Making it a good monster is our best shot at removing it as a threat.
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>>4659652
I don’t think we should have Sakura vore anyone until we determine that their interactions with Tiamat will not fuck us over.
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>>4659654
I'm pretty sure we're our own Natural Enemy right now.
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>>4659657
>We can't kill it
We can try. I am sure even an attempt to kill it will score us some points with Alaya.
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>>4659657
>We can't kill it without it just respawning somewhere.
Not with that attitude.
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>>4659663
You can't say that until things actually fall apart.
Right now we're in a quantum superposition between fucking up and everything going better than expected.
Only after the waifu waveform collapses at the end of the war can we observe the final consequences of our actions.
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>>4659657
Are you going to simp for Kirei too or is he not furry enough for your tastes?
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>>4659677
He has a nice daughter.
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>>4659677
Not a furry, but if Beo can be in the Shinjibowl I see no reason as to why Primate Murder couldn't.
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>>4659686
Can PM turn into a human?
Or is cat fine for you too?
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>>4659687
Speaking completely clinically here but if ghosts, foxes, vampires, dragons, elementals metaphysical forces, the collective will of humanity, and our sister are all on the table, why wouldn't a cat be fine?
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>>4659690
>Not a furry, but
>Why wouldn't a cat be fine?
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>>4659694
A cat is fine too, Shiki said so.
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>>4659690
Everyone else on that list has a shape that is almost entirely human, bar fluffy tail or ears.
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>>4659699
No anon you don't get it.
PM is a cute cat in FGO which is why we gotta use him as our onahole.
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Just settle for Len.
She is better cat option.
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>>4659702
If Lugh can shapeshift then why can't he teach his autistic pseudo brother to do it as well?
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What is going on here?
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>>4659714
Furries and simps have overtaken the thread.
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>>4659714
waifu discourse
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>>4659719
Great, let's get back to loli shitposting
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As far as I am concerned Altrouge, Strout, Primate Murder and Kirei are all on the kill list where they belong for inconveniencing Shinji.
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>>4659719
I still think embarrassing Altrouge by forcing her into servitude would be our best option here honestly.
If we let Satsuki be the one in control of Altrouge then Alt might be able to become good.

We need our own maids at some point too.
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>>4659721
Surprisingly, despite this being the fate quest with the largest number of waifus it doesn't actually have a loli as a contender.
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>>4659726
Betty and Illya sort of
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>>4659726
There's Illya, but we want to give her an adult body anyway last I checked.
Pedos be damned it's what she wants.
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>>4659729
Illya is a hard not really and Betty is only seen as completion because all the girls are legitimately unhinged to the point were they will compete for our attention with a child.
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>>4659729
>Betty
Never been treated as anything other than a daughteru.
Also Nyarla would probably kill us if we tried to sex his dad.
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>>4659733
Illya clearly likes us but she's not got the ability to compete with the other waifus.
We should give her the dragon blood when we get Medea back.
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>>4659724
She has killed hundreds of thousands of humans and tortured our friend to death and you want to put her in a dress as a punishment?
You have an interesting idea of justice.
In any case I am going to vote to kill her to make Arcueid happy.
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>>4659734
Why would he care? He is an eldritch god. He has no morals.
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>>4659742
Let's see.
>Shuten
>Ibaraki
>Medea
>Tamamo
>Mordred
All mass murderers.
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>>4659726
I am not sure there was a proper loli contender to begin with.
Betty was never point of interests and she is rarely every do anything and mostly sleeps.
Interest for Illya run out completely and was never a real focus. And she was sidelined pretty smoothly by rest of the cast and few choices made by players.
The only one loli type girl left is Altrouge but she is hardly anything more than potential hatefuck territory. If she even has any romantic or sexual motivation at all. She could be running on pure curiosity and pragmatism.
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>>4659760
She has tortured and killed Satsuki.
She wants to make Shinji her slave.
Also Arcueid wants her dead.
Therefore she needs to die.
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>>4659760.
None of them have killed anyone we care about though.
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>>4659760
Those mass murderers are our allies and Altrouge is our enemy.
Two of our allies want her dead.
Seems pretty clear cut for me.
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>>4659778
All Alt did was allow Satsuki to be relevant.

>>4659775
Half the girls we know would be bad as this or worse without our influence.
Also do we really want to kill Arc's only family?
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>>4659789
>Also do we really want to kill Arc's only family?
I don't think she'll mind.
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>>4659789
You have to be trolling. You just can't be this delusional.
Arcueid herself wants to kill her.
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>>4659789
Altrouge hurt Satsuki and turned her into vampire.
Satsuki would have been relevant regardless, not just because she's one of the named characters Shinji cares about but also because she is gifted with bullshit powers that are not limited to vampirism.

Personally I'm open to letting Arcueid and Satsuki express their opinions on what her fate should be but as it is I don't see much chance of her turning to our side, and virtually none of dealing with her without a fight.

But of course talking about what to do with her is premature at this point since we've yet to overcome her and her dog.
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>>4659797
When has a girl in this setting ever actually wanted to kill their sister and not been haunted by grief if they actually do it?
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>>4659806
Arcueid has a biological imperative to kill True Ancestors that feed on the living.
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So, what do you guys want to do after the war?
Any big plans to save magic, or blow up the moon cell?
Do you want to try to save Earth from its future conflict or lean into a new British empire?
Or would you rather recede from the world and fuck your harem until the heat death of the universe?
The sky's the limit for what we could do once the War is over.
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Finally got some time check the thread and to write some updates and...
Woah that's a lot of new posts, guys.

>Arcueid, what do your vampire eyes see?
>>4658895
>>4658921
>>4659058

>Read
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>>4659486
>>4659494

>Ask allies to look around, also call Ciel out on this bullshit
>>4658927
>>4658988
>>4658994
>>4659300
>>4659315
>>4659500
>>4659523
>>4659621

>Call out to Ciel
>>4659524
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>>4659850
>new British empire
This. A new corporate British empire under the rightful rule of Pendragon bloodline.
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>>4659850
Get all the money, install Mordred on the throne of Britain, seize Moon Cell (if it exist), prevent Land of Steel and all other potential dead ends for humanity as a whole.
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>>4659850
Not die from the ensuing harem fight after we run out of excuses
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>>4659873
This
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>>4659873
This is probably the most ambitious of the options presented so far.
How could this be acomplished?
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>>4659880
Run to Syria with Shirou, stall for 4 years, oh no something is happening in New York (Fate/Strange Fake) we need to fix it before we can think about relationships
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>>4659850
Get laid.
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>>4659850

Well there's a few things for the bucket list

[ ] devampirify Satsuki
[ ] give homunculi a proper human lifespan and chance at life (this is on a hard time limit)
[ ] find a way to allow Servants a shot at life (incl. family life)
[ ] resolve Shinjibowl, preferably by picking 1 waifu and friendzone the rest (optionally hook them up with someone)
[ ] reach out to help any other named character Shinji will encounter or Anon brings up

I suppose securing Mordred's claim to the throne would be the next arc assuming we successfully resolve the grail war without breaking the world.
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>>4659883
>Strange Fake
It will never not be hilarious that Prelati needed to beg Aoko to convince Touko to stop spawnkilling them over and over again.
Then Touko killed him/her again anyway.
Like thirty times.
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>>4659883
Won't Shirou be too busy being a housewife to die for Israel in this timeline?
We'll need to find an alternative means of escape.
As a card carrying member of the globalist elite, Shinji should be able to seek refuge on Epstein's island while we wait for the harem issue to blow over.
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>>4659894
That's what you get for calling Touko dirty red.
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>>4659880
>>4659895
Stop being a pussy and actually talk to the girls after we deal with war.
The ones who agree to the harem will stay with Shinji.
The ones who don't agree to the harem won't stay with Shinji.
Simple.
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>>4659883
Shirou will be too busy pounding Saber to run away being a hero.
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>>4659899
Doing this is how we get the dead
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>>4659906
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>escaping the harem
The only real way to get away from Alaya.
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>>4659906
Better face your problems like a man than to run from them like a bitch.
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>>4659906
Doing this is how we realistically get the harem.
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>>4659899
All of our girlfriends are freakishly powerful and clinically insane.
Normal women will destroy your life just because they think they can get something by doing it, these girls all are disproportionately invested in us and many don't see a future for themselves without us in it. They have already shown hostility to anyone that threatens their chance with us and this is likely to escalate to an open conflict eventually.
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>>4659924
>don't see a future for themselves without us in it
That's why we need to offer them a future with us. They can get Shinji or they can refuse.
I don't like this harem shit but it's too late to back out.
And I really hate the idea of us running from them for years. That's so fucking pathetic.
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>>4659933
Or just do whatever we want and tell them to fuck off. We already helped them as much as we could, we don't owe them shit and we won't be weak as shit forever. If they want to fight each other like animals, let them, we won't be there to babysit them at every corner. Stop tiptoeing every decision just because we are afraid to hurt someones feelings.
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>>4659944
>Stop tiptoeing every decision just because we are afraid to hurt someones feelings.
Why do you even want to be in a relationship with any of them if you don't care about their feelings
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>>4659944
That's what I am saying. Tell them we will be taking multiple spouses and if they don't like it they are free to leave.
The idea that we should run or hide is just ridiculous.
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>>4659962
Grow a spine.
We can't just pretend to be retarded forever.
After the war ends we will have to talk to them.
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>>4659962
Caring about someone isn't bending over to every whim for fear of retaliation, I'm not some desperate victim.
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>>4659944
If they don't agree we kill them. Simple as.
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>>4659977
based
If they want to chimp out they'll have to suffer the consequences like anybody else.
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"Do... any of you three feel anything off? Like... do you sense anybody nearby, like a Servant?" Before you go ahead and read that note, you want to make sure that you're not about to wander directly into a trap and get kidnapped again. You've met your kidnap quota for this week already, and could really do without being imprisoned by some lunatics for poorly defined reasons. Being kidnapped is better than being killed at least, but there comes a point where people will just start looking at you as if you're some damsel in distress. Though you did manage to resolve both of your own kidnappings all by yourself and escape without any aid both times... Well, you don't know if you can really call Amethyst 'helping' you aid at least.

Mordred looks around, her eyes flick from rooftop to rooftop. "Other than that hooded kid who followed us out of the mansion? Nah." Mordred looks at the top of a tall building and you can just about make out a silhouette before it quickly disappears out of view. Is SHIKI following you now? Well, you appreciate his willingness to help at least... or at least to observe you. You don't know what the hell he's actually doing up on that apartment building. Brooding, probably.

Arcueid just shrugs. "Nope, nothing nearby other than that boy." Arcueid frowns, clearly annoyed at her inability to discern the source of the holy weapon embedded in the middle of the road. After all, a member of the Church capable of deceiving even her senses could mean one thing and one thing only. A member of the Burial Agency was on the prowl nearby. Of course, the other option is that whoever left this key simply bolted and fled before they were caught.

Lugh sniffs at the air. "I'm... not picking anything else up either. A few humans walking about the streets, but nothing out of the ordinary." Lugh sniffs again. "Weird, not even picking up a trail or a scent from whoever put it there." The small wolf-eared boy doesn't seem very happy about not being able to find out the source of they key. This sort of thing clearly doesn't happen to him very often.

You grow more suspicious as you look at the Black Key in the asphalt, you aren't sure by just what method they are managing to deceive the senses of your allies, but this must've been left by a member of The Church, only they make use of Black Keys, and among them, there's likely nobody in the Church more skilled in their use than... "Ciel! Get out here and stop playing this silly game! If you want to talk, then let's talk!"

You receive silence in response to your shouts. Ah well, it was a long shot anyway. There was nothing actually guaranteeing that Ciel of all people was going to rise to an attempt to provoke her, that is if it even is Ciel who's trying to send you this message. Despite her being relevant to things relating to Roa, it could be some other member of the Church or the Burial Agency that wants to talk to you.
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You decide it would be best to approach the Black Key as a group, just in case it really is a trap. Thankfully though, when there are no sudden explosions or flashes of light when you all gather around the key, you are somewhat convinced that you aren't about to be hit by some ambush or some other malicious attack.

You tear the note off of the handle of the Black Key and begin reading it.

'Shinji Makiri,

If you are aware of a vampire by the name of ___ please... wait a second...' There are a few more blank lines on the sheet of paper Before it finally spells out three letters in block capitals, 'R', 'O' and 'A'. Huh, so is this an after effect of what you did to Roa then? 'I think that if you're aware of this vampire, you will understand this problem I seem to be having with remembering him, and if not, then we have nothing to talk about. If you do know of them, then please continue walking forwards, take the first left into the alleyways you see, then take a right when you reach a split path, and finally take a trip down the open manhole, I'll have left the ladder out. Please, only bring one of your allies with you. I won't be able to trust you if you bring everyone with you.' Oh yeah, this is definitely Ciel's letter. You look at the bottom of the letter.

'P.S. Don't bring a vampire or the wolf boy, please.'

Looks like Ciel really does want to talk, but should you go for it?

>Go alone to meet Ciel. She's trustworthy enough.
>Take a single one of your allies to meet Ciel with you. (Who?)
>Take everyone anyway.
>Draw a doodle of Roa on the note, then leave without going to meet Ciel.
>Write-in...
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>>4660028
>>Take a single one of your allies to meet Ciel with you. (Who?)
Arcueid
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>>4660028
>Go alone to meet Ciel. She's trustworthy enough.
Ciel is pretty on the level.
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>>4660028
>>Take a single one of your allies to meet Ciel with you. (Betty)
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>>4660028
Take a single one of your allies to meet Ciel with you. (Who?)Betty and looks like shiki is batman now
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>>4660028
>Take a single one of your allies to meet Ciel with you. (Who?)
SHIKI she needs to meet the other Roa survivor.
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>>4660044
So you're just, what? Going to tell Mordred to go grab him to stop him from doing his brooding thing?
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>>4660044
Support.
>>4660045
Yes.
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>>4660028
>>Take a single one of your allies to meet Ciel with you. (Who?)
Betty, Ciel cool more or less since we're not a vampire or a psychopath
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>>4660028
>>4660034
Fuck it. I'll change to Betty.
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>>4660045
Why not?
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>>4660028
>Go alone to meet Ciel. She's trustworthy enough.
>Tell everyone the situation with Ciel
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>>4660028
Take Betty.
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>>4660028
>Take a single one of your allies to meet Ciel with you. (Betty)
We promised that won't ditch her anymore.
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>>4660028
>Take a single one of your allies to meet Ciel with you. (Who?)
My boy SHIKI
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>>4660028

>Go with Betty

inb4 it's a ruse by rizo
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>>4660045
I guess so he had enough time to brood over his actions for the day asking him to go down the sewers with us shouldn't be an issue to him.
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If Betty ends up winning can we also ask her to she summon some creature which will lead rest of our allies to us if things go hot?
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>>4660078
If he managed to pull a jape of that magnitude then he deserves to kidnap us at that point.
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>>4660084
well whoever wrote it was very particular about vampire or wolf boy, and if they meant Arcueid then those are both our counters to Alt's dog. Not sure if they should be able to remember Roa but if anyone else would I wouldn't put it past them. Only thing that links this to Ciel is the black key which such powerful vampires can concievably take from an unsuccessful church agent.

Then again that would mean they are still around which we don't expect right now.
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30 minutes.
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>Alone
>>4660037
>>4660052

>Betty
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>>4660055
>>4660067
>>4660078

>SHIKI
>>4660044
>>4660046
>>4660070
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"Alright." You say as you finish reading the letter. "Betty will be heading with me, the rest of you stay here for now. Or at least follow at a distance if you get worried about me. The person who wrote this letter wants to meet me, and I'm inclined to believe that they aren't a threat to me." If you tell Ciel just what you did to Roa, in fact she might be thankful enough to join your faction! After all, there's not really much of a reason for her to remain loyal to the Church after what they did to her at all, in all honesty. The man she wanted revenge on has now disappeared once and for all, and she only ever really joined the Church in order to get her hands on items like the Seventh Holy Scripture that would allow her to kill Roa for good.

"Alright, Onii-chan." Sakura says with a resigned tone. Betty begins to skip alongside you as you continue walking forwards. Sakura eyes Betty with a judgmental gaze, as if judging her worth at protecting you. You can't really blame Sakura for not having much faith in the girl after she's proven herself to be so unreliable in the past but even still you still have a lot of faith in Betty to be able to protect you against anything Ciel might attempt to do if she turns out to be hostile, or indeed if she turns out to be another person merely pretending to be Ciel and trying to lure you in.

You leave the rest of your allies behind you as you quickly stride forwards in order to get to where you were instructed to go, things are exactly as the note said, and you soon find yourself peering down a manhole that seems to go down into the sewers of Misaki Town. Though the smell that you would expect from such an entrance is non-existent. You're still hesitant to go down and confront whoever it was that sent you the note despite that though. Betty takes spiritual form and follows you down the ladder, seemingly not wanting to have to try to climb down the ladder with her small arms and legs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viDXSNJmWZ0

As you reach the bottom of the ladder, you find that you're not in a sewer like you imagined you would end up in at all, but a somewhat well furnished room with a variety of furniture within it. "Hello-?" You call out. You don't want to accidentally spook the person who lives here after all. Something feels... very wrong. Like there's somebody else in the room with you, but you look around the room and you can't see anybody! "Betty? Do you see anybody?"

"No Master, I think we're alone in-" Betty freezes up as she feels something cold, metal and sharp touching the side of her throat. You can tell the reason behind her sudden silence, as the exact same thing happened to you in that moment. The incredibly sharp edge of a blade is brushing against your throat as well!
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"You know, if you were going to kill me, it would've been better to go for an immediate strike to my heart or brain, or decapitation, if you were feeling adventurous." You show no fear to the sudden attacker. After all, if they were planning on killing you, they would've done so already, having somehow managed to get the drop on you and Betty! Do they have something more powerful than the Presence Concealment of a Servant?

"I'm not going to kill you, I just want to be able to trust whatever you're going to say to me." The voice of a girl responds to you, and out of the corner of your eye you can see Ciel appear as if from thin-air, as a white and red shroud drops for her shoulders and to the floor. "You said you know about Roa, so start talking. Tell me I'm not losing my mind." Ciel's voice is seemingly calm, but she does sound to be on edge about something, probably the sudden erasure from reality of the vampire that made her what she is. "Tell me his full name."

"Micheal Roa Valdamjong." You say without any effort, and Ciel quickly removes the black keys she was holding against both your throat and Betty's. Betty might've been able to do something, but that would really rely on whether or not her protective ability worked against Anti-Spiritual weaponry being wielded by somebody as powerful as Ciel, and you also didn't tell her to act either.

Ciel sighs in relief. "So I'm not going crazy. That's a relief. I'm sorry about threatening you, but I had to make sure that I wasn't simply inviting an enemy into this safe house." You turn to face Ciel, who is awkwardly smiling at you, not exactly knowing

"It's fine." You don't really mind that Ciel threatened you or Betty, honestly, you'd do the exact same thing if you were incredibly paranoid about something like Ciel must be with Roa right now. To have nobody even be aware of the reason why you exist, and only giving you vague specifics. To have every written document that ypu can find that mentions the name Roa to instead feature blank lines whenever he is referred to. It must be quite maddening.

You and Ciel look each other in the eyes for a moment. "So. About Roa. You're the only person I've met who remembers him... but... do you know what happened? Why is nobody able to remember Roa?" You briefly think about whether or not you should tell Ciel the truth, and how much of the truth you should tell her.

>"Ciel, Roa doesn't exist anymore, because I removed him and every trace of his name from the Root. Only those strongly connected to him can remember him now, but the world itself has forgotten."
>"I was part of a mission to kill Roa once and for all, he won't be coming back anymore."
>"I don't know, I'm just as clueless as you are."
>"Would you be mad if I told you that I killed Roa in such a way that not only saved his host and turned both you and his current host into true immortals, but also removed all traces and mentions of Roa personally from the world?"
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You can
>Write-in...
too, I just ran out of characters.
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>>4660239
>"Would you be mad if I told you that I killed Roa in such a way that not only saved his host and turned both you and his current host into true immortals, but also removed all traces and mentions of Roa personally from the world?"
Full disclosure.
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>>4660239
>"Would you be mad if I told you that I killed Roa in such a way that not only saved his host and turned both you and his current host into true immortals, but also removed all traces and mentions of Roa personally from the world?"
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>>4660234
Why does Ciel look so mildly upset about being chokeslammed into the concrete?
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>>4660239
>"Ciel, Roa doesn't exist anymore, because I removed him and every trace of his name from the Root. Only those strongly connected to him can remember him now, but the world itself has forgotten."

Let's come clear. Also, some classic Shinji bragging.
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>>4660239
>Would you be mad if I told you that I killed Roa in such a way that not only saved his host and turned both you and his current host into true immortals, but also removed all traces and mentions of Roa personally from the world?"
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>>4660239
>"Would you be mad if I told you that I killed Roa in such a way that not only saved his host and turned both you and his current host into true immortals, but also removed all traces and mentions of Roa personally from the world?"
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>>4660239
>>"Would you be mad if I told you that I killed Roa in such a way that not only saved his host and turned both you and his current host into true immortals, but also removed all traces and mentions of Roa personally from the world?"
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>>4660239
>"Would you be mad if I told you that I killed Roa in such a way that not only saved his host and turned both you and his current host into true immortals, but also removed all traces and mentions of Roa personally from the world?"
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>>4660239
>>"Would you be mad if I told you that I killed Roa in such a way that not only saved his host and turned both you and his current host into true immortals, but also removed all traces and mentions of Roa personally from the world?"
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>>4660239
>"Would you be mad if I told you that I killed Roa in such a way that not only saved his host and turned both you and his current host into true immortals, but also removed all traces and mentions of Roa personally from the world?"
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>>4660239
>>"Would you be mad if I told you that I killed Roa in such a way that not only saved his host and turned both you and his current host into true immortals, but also removed all traces and mentions of Roa personally from the world?"
I feel like she’d be grateful personally
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35 minutes till call.
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I'm reading up stuff about Ciel to see if there's anything useful to know when dealing with her and uh, well she can fight defensively against a servant and apparently she has child bearing hips and likes anal so that's something
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>>4660276
>"Would you be mad if I told you that I killed Roa in such a way that not only saved his host and turned both you and his current host into true immortals, but also removed all traces and mentions of Roa personally from the world?"
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>>4660294
>Fight defensively
That was later retconned.
Ciel and all the members of the Burial Agency are capable of fighting Servants on equal ground.
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>>4660294
>and likes anal
Well now I want her in the harem.
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>>4660296
Was her preference for anal also retconned or is that still a thing?
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>>4660239
>Roa is no more. His ability to return to life proved his undoing, quite literally as you’ve experienced.
>Say, have you experienced anything else concerning your... condition... since his unmaking?

I’d like to confirm with her if she found she’s unkillable so we don’t accidentally make an assumption with tragic consequences. But other than that we should be able to be rather open with her.

Also ask if she knows what Kirei has been up to and whether they have intel on Zouken or the murders or anything else... although all of that could probably wait until we rejoin our allies which we should do as soon as she’s convinced we’re not her enemy.
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>>4660304
Well Takeuchi said she has the biggest hips and butt of all other heroines and I assume she took it up the ass during her sex scene so....
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>>4660316
But will that remain true for the remake or will secondaries once more defile canon for the sake of their own twisted desires?
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>>4660325
I will eat my shoe if there are still h scenes in the remake
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>>4660309
Oh and we definitely should tell her of SHIKI so she doesn’t accidentally panic and fight him, in case she was aware of him somehow.
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>>4660332
See what I mean?
Once more the art will be diluted and sanitized to appeal to the weakthewed, feminine tastes of chinese and western audiences while precious characterization and plot will be forever consigned to the annals of history.
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how long has Shiki known Ciel btw? How long has she even been in Misaki Town? I can't find a hard date on it and I don't feel like reading Tsukihime right now
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>>4660286
Hey WhatIs can we expect another update or should I go to sleep?
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>>4660344
He doesn't know Ciel in this timeline, remember that Ciel has been monitoring Fuyuki for a few years now. Mostly because the Burial Agency were wondering what Altrouge was doing in the town.
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>>4660403
I'm writing it right now anon, jeez.
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>>4660410
Thanks!
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>>4660410
Are you sure you don't want to turn in early?
You must have been tired if you missed the morning update.
Are you getting enough sleep, Whatis?
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>>4660413
I haven't been getting enough sleep for about two years now, anon.
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>>4660410
Take your time, personally I'm dieing of the coof so I got nowhere to be.
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>>4660422
Get better m8
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"Would you be mad if I told you that I killed Roa in such a way that not only saved his host and turned both you and his current host into true immortals, but also removed all traces and mentions of Roa personally from the world?" You keep a completely straight face as you explain things to Ciel in a pretty much the most comprehensive way you can while keeping things short.

"You... did what?" Ciel's mouth is open in surprise.

"Well, you see, Roa had this connection to the Root that I could actually use in order to cause his own reincarnation ability to backfire against him, and I used his own connection to the root to apply a concept of "non-existent" to his record in the Root. So as a result, he's basically gone from existence forever. In other timelines too, from what I gather." You wonder for a moment how that actually works when you live in the Unbranching Timeline, as Alaya referred to it, the Root exists above such things as timelines though, so you guess Roa might just cease to exist forever in all those timelines that branched off the origin point of humanity too. You also find yourself wondering how exactly the Second Magic interfaces with a world like this one. That might be why Zelretch was having so much difficulty personally interacting with this world.

"You... aren't kidding are you? How do you... know so much?" Ciel is clearly a little shaken from your explanation, and though it sounds completely ridiculous, Ciel has had first hand experience with the very world itself rejecting the existence of Roa through the erasure of any mention of his name in the form of a written record.

"Of course I'm not. Roa was a monster who needed to die. The fact that I was able to do the job across each and every timeline is a great mercy to all those worlds where he might've otherwise gone on to live forever, never being truly stopped. All those countless lives that he would've ruined through his eternal existence, as a parasite living off of humanity!" Serpent of Akasha? More like Tapeworm of Akasha. He was never anything more than a vampiric parasite. Worse even than Zouken in the lengths he went in order to ensure an eternal existence. At least Zouken started out with noble goals and once held a genuine wish to save humanity, Roa was always a terrible person, slaughtering the loved ones of those he took over and effectively forcing them to watch as he did so.
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"Then... If Roa is gone... Then shouldn't that mean that my... curse is lifted? I should be able to die, so why did you mention 'true immortality'?" Ciel's eyes narrow at you, for her, you suppose that her immortality must be seen as some sort of curse. All it has caused for her is the ability to live with the guilt of killing her family and her entire village as well as all the torture that the Church put her through in an attempt to kill her. "You're awfully well informed about me. Too well informed, I might add." Ciel is still quite suspicious of you, clearly she's not bought your story entirely just yet.

"W-well, I believe it has something to do with the uh... paradox that brought about your original immortality. You see. You already know that Gaia forcibly kept you alive and regenerated damage done to you as a result of your link to Roa, and would continue to do so for as long as Roa was alive, right?" Ciel remains quiet, she obviously doesn't need you to explain just how her own immortality works to her, but it was more for letting her know that you knew how her immortality functioned. "Well... Roa technically never existed as far as the World is concerned now, so uh... Your immortality is now linked to the destruction of something that doesn't exist. I-it was an unintended side-effect of how I killed Roa! I didn't mean to do it!" While SHIKI might not be talking much about his thoughts on his new immortal existence, Ciel didn't like her own very much.

"I believe you." Ciel says with an unreadable expression. "So, looks like I'll be around forever then? Even now that Roa is gone?" The girl takes a seat on a sofa, basically falling into it as the energy leaves body. "Hah, Narbareck will be happy, won't she?" She looks up at you. "I... know that I should thank you for ridding the world from Roa, but..." She pauses. "I suppose that there's an irony in it. The girl who lived after Roa abandoned her was the one to achieve eternal life, while he was erased from history." Ciel slumps forwards in the chair, staring at the floor, it's strange to see somebody looking so defeated after having one of their greatest wishes fulfilled, but in Ciel's case, eternal life means nothing. She lived for no reason other than to get her vengeance on Roa. The girl is coming to the realization that she will be forced to live an existence like this forever. Her single all consuming target of revenge gone before she ever met him face to face personally.

>Hug Ciel. You can't bear to see somebody like this.
>Ask Ciel what she's going to do now.
>Say nothing, let Ciel come to her own conclusions.
>Try to cheer Ciel up. (How?)
>Leave. You're done here.
>Write-in...
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Could we theoretically kill her?
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>>4660516
>>Hug Ciel. You can't bear to see somebody like this.
>>Try to cheer Ciel up. (How?)
Let's go buy her some curry, she loves that shit and we know her favorite shop in Misaki Town
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>>4660539
As you currently are?
No.
Neither could Shiki.
Or Types if you want to go that far.
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>>4660516
Hug Ciel. You can't bear to see somebody like this.
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>>4660545
We were going to conduct an investigation with our allies.
Do you want to ditch them?
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>>4660548
>As you currently are?
So there's a chance
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>>4660516
>Hug Ciel. You can't bear to see somebody like this.
>>Ask Ciel what she's going to do now.
>>Try to cheer Ciel up. (How?)
Tell her that in the future we will be able to kill her if that's what she wants. So she is not doomed to the eternal life.
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>>4660552
I feel like this is more of an after thing, even she understands that killing DAA is priority
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>>4660516
>Hug Ciel. You can't bear to see somebody like this.
>Ask Ciel what she's going to do now.
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>>4660559
>>4660516
I'll support this just so we don't have a tie.
I feel like we're in need of extended voting time on this vote.
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>>4660576
That's fine, this will be the last update of the night now anyway.
Though I will hopefully get my usual five done tomorrow.
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>>4660578
That's good. Someone might come up with a better write-in.
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>>4660516
>(Write-in) Tell her about SHIKI
Knowing she's not alone in this might help her
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>>4660614
Well Arc is there too, we might stick around
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>>4660559
Support
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>>4660559
I don't think she's sad that she's living forever, well she kinda is but i think she's more sad that the object of her vengeance is dead before she even got to do anything. I think saying we can end her life is the wrong way to approach this
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>>4660727
>the object of her vengeance is dead before she even got to do anything
Well we can't do anything about that can we?
On the other hand we can do something about her living forever. Not right now but in the future we will be able to kill her if that's what she wants. Or maybe not kill her but just make her mortal again.
I believe knowing the fact that she has a way out of eternal routine will help her to not fall into depression.
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>>4660559
>>4660516
Support.
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>>4660516
Hug Ciel. You can't bear to see somebody like this.
Say nothing, let Ciel come to her own conclusions.
Let her process for a bit then
>Tell her about SHIKI
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>>4660516
>Hug Ciel. You can't bear to see somebody like this.
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Ciel clearly hates her immortality and the fact that she can't get rid of it now is making her depressed.
In a situation like this the best way to cheer her up is to let her know that there is still hope for her.
That in the future there will be a way to make her mortal again.
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Btw I believe that the first thread is finally dead which means we'll soon have a new shiny thread.
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>>4660516
>Hug Ciel. You can't bear to see somebody like this.
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>>4660516

Supporting >>4660559

Although prospect of being unkillable might seem appealing at a glance and for some time, notion of watching all your close ones die and eventually existing until (and through) heat death of universe is kind of scary so I’m guessing SHIKI will want his mortality restored somehow in time, as well. Even if it’s not something we’d be focusing on right now.
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>>4660516
>Hug Ciel. You can't bear to see somebody like this.
>Tell her about SHIKI
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>>4661102
Even when every Fate Quest is gone, month old Paradox Reincarnater threads will remain, making anons seethe at their sheer quantity.
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>>4661125
Let them seethe. It's not our fault this quest attracts so many people.
This is simply one of the best quests on the board for the last year at least.
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Imagine, a quest that has a QM that makes meaty posts, has quest participation from people who actually know what they're talking about, and is based on a setting with a few books worth of lore and characters. Sure does feel good to have come back to give /qst/ another look after a year.
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>>4661155
Were you following this quest before the hiatus?
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Hey WhatIs, can Black Barrel kill Ciel?
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>>4661155
Too obvious, none of us know what we are talking about.

6/10 apply yourself
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>>4661155
has quest participation from people who actually know what they're talking about
kek.
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>>4661164
Seeing as Ciel can actually hold and wield the Black Barrel and thus it wouldn't be super effective on her anyway.
No.
Also she actually not only doesn't have the earthly concept of death anymore, she's become something like a constant in the Root.

I got some important things to do now though so expect updates in like 5-6 hours.
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>>4661273
Did you see that the thread №13 has finally died?
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>>4661277
I did.
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>>4661155
That's the thing with Fate.
If you know what you're doing you open yourself to a wide audience that knows and enjoys the setting.
Or you can half-ass it and make a shitty forgettable quest.

Back on topic looking forward to another harem member.
Will Ciel be happy to conquer England? She's French and can't lose a fight so she's basically Lancelot already.
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We should start organizing positions for Neo-Camelot.
King: Mordred
Advisor/Prime Minister: Shinji
First Knight of the Second Round Table: Shirou
Magical Advisors: Medea and Touko
Assistant Magical Advisor: Rin
Chief Assassin: Shiki Tohno
Freeloaders: Shuten and Ibaraki
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>>4661334
We’re going to need to build up demand for a revival of monarchy and prepare a media stage for Mordred to fit into so the clock tower doesn’t get funny ideas of getting in her way.
If magi are treating modern stuff with disdain, winning popular support for Mordred without her even having to take out her metaphysical phallic implements could completely blindside them and make her rise to power a smoother and preferable transition to covering up a magical accident and mass mind wipe that would require in aftermath.
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>>4661348
Honestly when we go full gigarich we'll probably just be able to start buying the UK. The mages won't be dumb enough to fuck with us as long as we make agreements with them first.
Run can be the Clicktower Ambassador.
Real question: stop at the UK, Reconquer the entire British Empire, take over Europe or GLOBAL EMPEROR MORDRED?
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>>4661354
Well I see no reason for her once she’s established herself in UK to not use her position to wrap rest of EU around her finger at very least. Whether we’ll have some reason to expand further I suppose will be down to what world altering plots will be surfacing.

I imagine at this point we’ll have to temper the advancement to not provoke a global conflict or otherwise throw Civilisation off balance that would require Alaya to act. We did promise.
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>>4661334
Let's not count our chickens before they hatch.
We don't know who is going to be alive by the end of the war and who is going to stick around after the war ends.

>>4661354
I believe our best plan is to prepare the stage for Mordred for the next 4 years through propaganda and industry buyout and then when economic crisis starts we will make sure that they are hit as hard as possible. Maybe start a few revolts here and there. And when they are at their lowest we just straight up tell them that if they want UK to continue existing they will have to put Mordred on the throne.
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>>4661361
>who is going to be alive
Ciel and SHIKI I'm pretty confident about. We need to make good use of all the high ranked Charisma at our disposal though.

>>4661360
Man imagine Mordred of all people being the supreme leader of Earth.
Alaya only gets pissy if human advancement ceases. So after global conquest we need to start colonization efforts for the solar system and beyond.
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>>4661365
>colonization efforts for the solar system and beyond
You know there are those things called Types right? I think they won't be pleased by humans stepping on their turf.
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>>4661361
I don’t think we should go out of our way to exacerbate crisis on people we want to win over because if someone figures it out later they will have a powerful propaganda weapon against us, turning a benefit we don’t really need into a hindrance down the line.
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>>4661366
We have Slash Emperor and we can see about using the second magic to create an army equipped with Black Barrels.
We could also see about hijacking the Mooncell and reverse engineering it.
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>>4661367
>I don’t think we should go out of our way to exacerbate crisis
How are you going to force the lords and royalty to give away their power without a crisis?
Look at the modern Europe and you will see that popular protests do not achieve anything unless they pose an actual threat.
>on people we want to win over
We can still win them over. We have shitload of money and 4 years to construct a propaganda machine.
The people will believe what they want to believe and most of the time they want to believe that their government sucks and is guilty of every minute problem.
>if someone figures it out later they will have a powerful propaganda weapon against us
Just paint them as a crazy conspiracy theorist who dares to smear the reputation of a heroic king who saved a nation in crisis.
>turning a benefit we don’t really need into a hindrance down the line.
As long as we don't fuck up our public image no one will believe their wild theories.

>>4661371
>Slash Emperor
There is no way Shirou can manifest that. He'll just die trying.
>second magic
I don't think Alaya is going to like that.
>Mooncell
We don't know if it exists in this world.
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>>4661373
>Shirou will die trying
Which is why we need to conceptually upgrade UBW.
>Alaya won't like it
Look sweetheart do you want a 100000 strong army of Typekillers or not?
>Mooncell
Well we'll just go to one where it does exist duh.
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>>4661375
>conceptually upgrade UBW
He'll have to manifest it first before we find out just what exactly we can do with it.
>Look sweetheart do you want a 100000 strong army of Typekillers or not?
We also would need Zelretch to cooperate with us on this one and persuading him is going to be hard. Besides he said that Gaia and Alaya don't want him to meet us.
>Well we'll just go to one where it does exist duh.
Again we need Zelretch for that.
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>>4661377
>we need Zelretch for that
Best girl Alaya can do it too.
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>>4661378
I know she can teleport people to different worlds but can she really drag the whole Mooncell to a different world? I honestly have no idea.
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>>4661373
>How are you going to force the lords and royalty to give away their power without a crisis?
>Look at the modern Europe and you will see that popular protests do not achieve anything unless they pose an actual threat.
by usage of reason and money. Lords don't have power for shit anyway. Elites with actual power don't care about who is in charge as long as they can satisfy their own agendas. And they will be as susceptible to Mordred's charisma as anyone else.

>Just paint them as a crazy conspiracy theorist who dares to smear the reputation of a heroic king who saved a nation in crisis.
>As long as we don't fuck up our public image no one will believe their wild theories.
wild theories become more dangerous when they are backed up by facts, and if it turns out that couple of million of people were driven to ruin, unemployment and homelessness to improve our success rate by single digit percentage points they may be less cooperative with their beloved queenking than they otherwise would be, unless we decide to play role of the evil vizier for the good kingqueen that will absorb ire of the people while the monarch receives adoration. Although I'd rather not put Mordred into position where she feels she needs to defend our honor, especially against justified accusations, if we can help it.
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>>4661379
I think the mooncell by itself can timeline shift.
So we just need to go there, adopt 8 year old super hacker Shinji and bully BB into giving us admin status.
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I just realized that if we go harem then the amount of kids we're gonna have is insane.
Nevermind the potential adoption of kids we need to prevent from suffering.
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>>4661385
You are making a lot of conjectures here.
First, citizens of the UK actually like their queen. If we won't stock unrest and ruin her popularity rating we will risk facing pushback after Mordred takes the throne.
Second, "elites with actual power" are usually willful and busy people. Even if we manage to arrange personal meetings between every one of them and Mordred there is no guarantee that they won't change their mind and snitch on us down the line. Charisma is nice but it's not a mind control.
Third, any fact can be denied and muffled with a working propaganda machine which we will have to build anyway. Again just look at the modern world. I don't want to turn this into political discussion so I won't give any examples but it's hardly a secret to anyone that truly undesirable information will never be mentioned on MSM. And those who uncover it will quickly disappear or will be locked away.
It's nice to be an idealist but seriously what is your plan exactly. To show up to the UK without a plan and just hope that since people like Mordred they are just going to kick out the old queen and put Mordred in her place? This is extremely naive.
How are you even going to propagate Mordred without revealing her identity? We should concentrate on increasing popular dislike towards the current government and royalty.
And when fires of discontent will engulf the country Mordred will show up and put them out with Shinji's money.

>>4661394
This is less of a problem than you imagine it to be.
Barely half of our romantic interests can conceive children.
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>>4661398
>implying we aren't going to incarnate them all.
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>>4661398
>Charisma is nice but it's not a mind control
You know what IS mind control?
Mind control.
Medea can mind control all the normies and weaker magi in our way.
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>>4661402
>Medea can mind control all the normies and weaker magi in our way.
That's a good way to make the Clocktower and the Church aware of our plans and antagonistic towards us.

>>4660516
>>4660559
+1
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>>4661398
>First, citizens of the UK actually like their queen. If we won't stock unrest and ruin her popularity rating we will risk facing pushback after Mordred takes the throne.
They are going to like the new queen more. You are trapped in thinking that in order to be perceptive to change you have to revile the status quo when in truth it's quite enough if the new perspective is sufficiently appealing.
>Second, "elites with actual power" are usually willful and busy people. Even if we manage to arrange personal meetings between every one of them and Mordred there is no guarantee that they won't change their mind and snitch on us down the line. Charisma is nice but it's not a mind control.
They are going to be more than happy to line up for the meetings themselves when they realize a new contender has appeared. They are also generally pragmatic people that will not let an opportunity to improve their standing - or keep it from deteriorating - pass by.
>Third, any fact can be denied and muffled with a working propaganda machine which we will have to build anyway. Again just look at the modern world. I don't want to turn this into political discussion so I won't give any examples but it's hardly a secret to anyone that truly undesirable information will never be mentioned on MSM. And those who uncover it will quickly disappear or will be locked away.
Well we're still talking about UK, not China or Russia, and I don't think we're going to be turning UK into a DPRK tier of one person state so suppression of information would not be working in our favour, which leads back to my point that deliberately making things worse so that we can appear as messiah brings about unnecessary hazard for an unnecessary benefit.

>It's nice to be an idealist but seriously what is your plan exactly. To show up to the UK without a plan and just hope that since people like Mordred they are just going to kick out the old queen and put Mordred in her place? This is extremely naive.
At this point you're making a strawman. I'm not going to ask you to scroll up to dig for my earlier post but my plan would be to buy up some strategic industries, including digital infrastructure and establish our presence on media market. We don't need to create discontent, rather we can create demand for a more inspiring kind of leadership and chivalric values Mordred would want to represent. Once at least some of these preparations are in place we can launch a regular political campaign and win votes thanks to Mordred's charisma at rallies - we know from real world what she'd be competing against, and once we have both political and economic power along with popular support we'll be in good position to get the current monarchy to yield the throne to the rightful heir.
Magi of clocktower may pose a problem at early rallies but if we can make it through these the matter should snowball past the point where moving against us would amount to open magical warfare.
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>>4661403
If you want to destroy the current royal family then all you need to do is have
Medea teleport into Queen Elizabeth's room and implant the command to admit to having Princess Diana killed on Live TV.
That would END them.
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>>4661405
>They are going to like the new queen more.
Why? What's the Mordred's appeal for the average englishman? In my plan she saves the UK from crisis and becomes the national hero. Why do they like her in yours?
>They are going to be more than happy to line up for the meetings themselves when they realize a new contender has appeared.
No they won't. Why would they risk involving themselves in the coup? That'd easily would ruin their lifes and their businesses. In my plan they are lured to our side by generous donations during economic crisis. Why do they join us in yours?
>Well we're still talking about UK, not China or Russia
If you believe that there are no propaganda and information suppression in every country you are just naive. Again I don't want to turn this into /pol/ discussion so let's drop this point.
>chivalric values
There are no place for chivalry in politics.
>we can launch a regular political campaign and win votes thanks to Mordred's charisma at rallies
Are you crazy? We can't reveal Mordred's identity untill the very last moment otherwise the Clocktower and the Church are going to get involved.
>we'll be in good position to get the current monarchy to yield the throne
No we won't be. King is not an elective title. We need the current queen to announce her abdication and installation of a new royal bloodline.
She is not going to do that unless we apply a proper amount of presure to the UK and the royal family during 2008 crisis.
No one gives a damn about popular support or discontent in those matters.
>Magi of clocktower may pose a problem at early rallies but if we can make it through these the matter should snowball
Wishful thinking.
>past the point where moving against us would amount to open magical warfare.
What makes you think that they won't go for that? What makes you think that they won't just assassinate our supporters?
Mordred's identity should be hidden for as long as possible.
No offence anon but your plan is extremely naive.
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>>4661398
>First, citizens of the UK actually like their queen
A lot of people do, sure.
But that's a bit of a sweeping statement to make.
I didn't vote for her.

Anyway let me just get the votes counted up here.
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>>4661419
My point was that if we were to remove the queen and put Mordred in her place without propaganda working for a few years there would definetely be popular discontent among the UK citizens.
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>>4661415
>Why? What's the Mordred's appeal for the average englishman? In my plan she saves the UK from crisis and becomes the national hero. Why do they like her in yours?
She will win them over with her charm and force of personality. We don't need to reveal her true identity, we can put her in a suit and let her be the knightly Greta.

Plus there will be enough natural crises to overcome without having to create or make any worse.

>There are no place for chivalry in politics.
Yes there is, especially in the programme and promotion materials.

>She is not going to do that unless we apply a proper amount of presure
There are means of exerting pressure that don't require us to actively sabotage the country we're taking over that could undermine all our work if we don't suppress the truth - having economic power, popular support and political power stemming from it and also legitimate claims from literal king Arthur and their daughterson.

Clocktower and Church remain formidable agents no matter what we do and if we include your idea of fucking shit up for the sake of having our candidate fix it up later, both of these agents will be able to use it against us.
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>Hug and offer to buy Curry
>>4660545

>Hug
>>4660550
>>4661083
>>4661120

>Hug her and ask her what she's going to do now
>>4660569


>Hug, then ask what she's planning to do now, then reveal that in the future if she wants to die for whatever reason you might be able to remove her immortality.
>>4660559
>>4660576
>>4660718
>>4661024
>>4661123
>>4661403

>Tell her about SHIKI
>>4660614

>Hug, say nothing and then after waiting some time tell her about SHIKI
>>4661029

>Hug then tell her about SHIKI
>>4661124


For somebody with so many dangerous women pursuing you already, you really should learn not to hug and comfort powerful women when they are in highly emotional states.
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>>4661434

>spoiler

If it helps them, it's a sacrifice I'm willing to make.
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>>4661429
>Plus there will be enough natural crises to overcome without having to create or make any worse.
No there won't. That's the thing we need to make it worse so Mordred could appear at the last moment and save the kingdom. And by "the last moment" I mean after we negotiate with the elites and after the queen abdicates.
Once the queen passes throne to Mordred we start pumping money into kingdoms economy. We save the kingdom from crisis and Mordred's popularity raises to heavens. Simple and effective.
>Yes there is
Please name 3 modern chivalrous politicians who hold any significant position of power.
>popular support and political power stemming from it
Those things don't mean anything when we are talking about nonelective titles such as king.
>legitimate claims from literal king Arthur
Are you serious? We are not in the middle ages. Who cares about legitimacy in the modern world? Unless the queen acknowledges Mordred and chooses to pass crown to her all legitimacy in the world won't mean anything.
>Clocktower and Church remain formidable agents no matter what we do
As long as we are using nonmagical means and hide Mordreds identity neither Clocktower or the Church will care until it's too late for them to do anything. They are not as adept at dealing with mundane treaths as with magical ones.

>>4661434
>spoiler
I wish women in real life would fall for me after I hug them once.
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>>4661434
The Shinji Bowl is going to be an apocalypse event at this rate.
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>>4661434
>spoiler
It's not like Ciel is a yandere so i don't think the effect will be that bad.
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>>4661439
>I wish women in real life would fall for me after I hug them once.
You just need to have Charisma B and then wait until they are at their most emotionally vulnerable.
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>>4661434
>spoiler
It is for the greater good.
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>>4661446
It's just a supportive hug.
If I were to hit hard times and some guy whom I met 3 times in total decided to hug me in order to support me then I would like to believe that I wouldn't fall head over heels for him after that.
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>>4661450
This is the same universe where two otherwise incredibly bright young girls can fall head over heels in love with a kid failing a high jump.
Also you did kind of kill Roa too.
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>>4661439
>Please name 3 modern chivalrous politicians
I thought you didn't want to turn this into a /pol/ thread...?
On a more serious note it doesn't matter because normal politicians don't have anyone behind them that wants to support their ideals out of sentiment. And literally all of them, every single political party, will always promote their values as moral ones. Advantage Mordred has here would be that she'd be able to speak the words convincingly and nobody would be able to bring up anything to expose her corruption or hypocrisy. At least not until her legitimate identity is revealed, at which point she will have literal fucking Arthur speak out on her behalf.

>Those things don't mean anything when we are talking about nonelective titles such as king.
They mean a whole lot when it comes to elections to parliament and downing street. Mordred can literally have a political party backing her.

>Are you serious? We are not in the middle ages. Who cares about legitimacy in the modern world? Unless the queen acknowledges Mordred and chooses to pass crown to her all legitimacy in the world won't mean anything.
The legitimacy will allow Queen to justify abdication to herself and to the public. It is certainly better to be displaced by someone with legitimate claim than by some random usurper.

>As long as we are using nonmagical means and hide Mordreds identity neither Clocktower or the Church will care until it's too late for them to do anything. They are not as adept at dealing with mundane treaths as with magical ones.
They may not be in position to counter the Harkonnen operation but they will most certainly be in good position to use knowledge of it against us and Mordred when or if the end up confronting us.
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>Hug, then ask what she's planning to do now, then reveal that in the future if she wants to die for whatever reason you might be able to remove her immortality.

My only reasoning behind continue the snowball effect is that eventually we would have so many powerful women after us that it would start a valentine war arc and that would be hilarious.
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>>4661452
>she will have literal fucking Arthur speak out on her behalf.
Now you want to reveal Saber's identity too? You are mad lad anon.
>Mordred can literally have a political party backing her.
We can just bribe them so she can have every party backing her. Also in my plan when she becomes national hero she will have so much support from all political spectre that we won't have to care about elections.
>abdication
Abdication is the last step of my plan. At this point everything has been decided already and all that's left is to announce it to the public. At this point legitimacy doesn't matter. Besides there is no way for us to prove that Mordred is an actual descendant of king Arthur. No anon revealing Saber's identity will not work. It will only make things more complicated.
>It is certainly better to be displaced by someone with legitimate claim than by some random usurper.
It doesn't matter. You realize that nobody is going to believe that Mordred is actually Mordred. Or that she is Arthur's child. In my plan people just won't care about that since Mordred is a national hero and we are pumpimng money into british economy. They might think that she is nuts but it's just doesn't matter to them.
>knowledge of it
And how would they gain that knowledge? Wiretap our communications? Install secret cameras in our office? Yeah, right.
And even if they were to gain that knowledge how would they reveal it to the public? Send an anonimous letter to the TV or some magazine? Those are under our control since the first step of my plan is to construct a propaganda machine through buyout of MSM and printing houses.
In the end even if they get it out somehow it's just their word against the word of the national hero. This problem you keep bringing up simply doesn't exist in my plan anon. It exists only in yours.
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And now back to /fpr/ - Government of the United Kingdom

Did you expect the story to veer off into this direction, WhatIs?
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>>4661462
>This problem you keep bringing up simply doesn't exist in my plan anon.
Of course it doesn't since you refuse to admit it and that's why you and I are going to vote differently when the time comes. I simply cannot abide deliberate orchestration of suffering for the people just to seize power. I wouldn't want to explain the necessity to any of the Pendragons either.
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>>4661469
I can't say I was expecting so many people to get behind the idea of conquering the UK with Mordred.
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>>4661472
Hey, opportunity is the lifeblood of business.
And Shinji is a businessman.
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>>4661470
Crisis will happen no matter what. People will suffer with our without us.
Besides it is entirely in character for Shinji to disregard and ignore average people.
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>>4661477
>>4661477
>>4661477
Bam. New Thread, finally.



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