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The Grail War is on hold, in fact, most everything is on hold, for now is the time for a Carnival Moment, where things like Grail Wars simply don't happen. Well, at least in not any serious capacity.

You are Shinji Makiri, Ten years ago you suddenly found yourself with the memories of a complete past life that saw this world as a fictional story due to some unprecedented form of inter-dimensional transportation. Since that day, your new composite being has been working to change the grim future laid out for you, but... that really isn't of much concern to you right now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62c7_zKoSV8

It's starting.

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In a certain world-shifting cafe somewhere, a phone loudly rings, only to be picked up by a certain short cat-eared humanoid. "For the million and onth time! We don't serve Myapo Tofu! We- Huh? That's... not what you wanted to call about...? The... Carnival is starting? A Carnival Moment? Again?"

"Un-Un-Un!!" Neco-Arc Bubbles seems especially excited about things... as usual.

"Ah, so the Carnival Moment has returned." A deep voice responds, prepared to explain things once again is Neco-Arc Chaos, the most knowledgeable of all of the Neco-Arcs "Has it really been ten years already since the last one? Finally, various tales will truly cross paths once ag-"

"But... Hasn't that been happening anyway?" Neco-Arc interrupts Neco-Arc Chaos without any care for his repeated explanation from last time.

"Well, yes... but..." Neco-Arc Chaos gets flustered, not expecting to be so completely interrupted by Neco-Arc without any regard for his explanation.

"Then... what do we need a Carnival Moment for? Wasn't it all your idea to hide from our adoring fan when he came to visit Ahnenerbe?" Neco-Arc is pointing an accusatory... hand, at the tiny cat person. "You're the reason we didn't get to have our big reveal!"

"Un-Un-Un!!" Bubbles agrees with Neco-Arc, and Chaos starts looking worried by the two Neco Spirits

"But... we... needed to keep the integrity of the story..." Neco-Arc Chaos sounds utterly defeated. He had just wanted to keep things flowing smoothly. If Shinji had found them, then the world's serious qualities would have been torn asunder, and a Forever Carnival might've taken place!

"I disagree." A voice from the table behind the bar calls out, and Neco-Arc Destiny joins the conversation. "We had our moment to get involved in things, and we blew it. Now we're stuck in this bar, until Shinji remembers we exist again, an eternity of waiting for actual plot relevance! Isn't it sad?" The drama queen at the table by herself is obviously upset about their lost opportunity to shine.

"Let's all just... enjoy this fleeting carnival, shall we?" Neco-Arc Chaos tries his hardest to get things back on track. "Hmm, what's this? A voting prompt."

"Hey! Don't you tr-"

>Choose a side-story! (You can vote for multiple, I guess, the ones with the most votes will be written.)
>>Ba-Dump Date Super Plan Redux Revengeance Extreme!
>>The Versatility of the Riding Skill
>>An Electric Street Performance
>>Welcome to Chaldea!
>>Sharing Tables
>>A Super Special Eldritch Errand!
>>White Moon Princess Phantasmoon Special - A Force of Justice: Mahou Shoujo Unite!
>>Trading Places: Shinji's worst ever day.
>>Fifth Holy Grail War (Normal Mode) Any% WR
>>The School Life of Shinji Makiri
>>The Great Council of Shinji
>Write-in...
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>>4721223
Actually, as a result of this April Fools joke being shit, I'll make it a strawpoll.
I understand some of you might not even be able to post here right now.
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>>4721223
>>A Super Special Eldritch Errand!
>>White Moon Princess Phantasmoon Special - A Force of Justice: Mahou Shoujo Unite!
>>Fifth Holy Grail War (Normal Mode) Any% WR
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>>4721235
https://www.strawpoll.me/42885103
Here's the strawpoll.
Please vote here.
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>>4721240
>https://www.strawpoll.me/42885103
oh boy, time to shinjipost uncontrollably
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Kind of a shame that the 1st just so happened to happen just when things were about to get good.
And the site april fools gimmick being kind of intrusive.
At least you managed to lower your odds of getting Sakura and yourself vored by snakes in the forest by about 95 percent.
You know, down from 100 percent
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>>4721255
Where was that very ashamed Medusa in dojo?
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>>4721257
Hiding.
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>>4721255
I'm half-certain you timed it like this on purpose. Though I agree this year's April Fool's is obnoxious.

>>4721259
Will she come out next time?
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>>4721259
But is she wearing PE uniform?
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>>4721266
She might be.
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The Riding skill meme was stolen by the real franchise
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>>4721223
>>A Super Special Eldritch Errand!

>>Trading Places: Shinji's worst ever day. I suggested this so I should probably vote for it.

>>Welcome to Chaldea!

In no particular order.

Hopefully I don't get mistaken for a leaf and get raked for the day.
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>>4721279
It is fine. We still have transfer student Altrouge.
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>>4721281
Use the strawpoll.
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>>4721283
I tried and it errored after I vooted, not sure if it counted. Turned off noscript, AB+ etc. and still fucked.
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>>4721283
Tried again and apparently it accepted the earlier voot, all good.
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An actual Fate/ discussion thread on /a/ that isn't the same 5 topics >>>/a/219357974 while we wait for WhatIs to set up the attractions
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>>4721288
Quick, somebody shill the quest there!
I want to dab on the pedoes when they read up to us adopting all the actually underage lolis.
Illya is still fair game though.

Back to actual serious things.
What do you guys think we can except from Manaka's boosted Cu?
Where is Baz, is she dead already?
Will we run into Stheno and Euryale here?
Will we get two new useless mouths to feed?
Will we watch Sakura get vored by snakes again?
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>>4721294
I think last time someone shilled the quest we got samefaggotry and WhatIs had to take a break so the autism would die down.

I doubt we'll go through the entirely of Gorgon's wild ride without meeting the park attendants. I wonder if the audience is dumb enough to simp to Stheno or Euryale and die. Shinji should have hard immunity to their charms though due to his mental protections.

I also doubt WhatIs would just kill Bazett offscreen, low payoff there.

I think Cu is potentially an Odin pseudo, or Morrigan/Lugh. His Divinity is specifically higher and he has the crow motif going on. Cu had a crow perch on his shoulder when he was finally confirmed dead, so maybe WhatIs is going for a herc moment where he ascended to godhood on death?

I wouldn't be surprised if God didn't mention anything about chasing Cu because we specifically asked for "long and happy lives for those we care about".

I don't think you can avoid at least some maiming or death against an enhanced, Gae Bolg and Rune Magic spamming Cu.
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>>4721294
>What do you guys think we can except from Manaka's boosted Cu?
Spearspam and trying to get himself killed.
>Where is Baz, is she dead already?
I bet she is an assassin.
>Will we run into Stheno and Euryale here?
>Will we get two new useless mouths to feed?
I hope so.
>Will we watch Sakura get vored by snakes again?
No, Sakura will get to watch Shinji getting "eaten" by Medusa.
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>>4721297
>Stheno or Euryale
Shinji is the only person who can properly call them out.
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>>4721300
Stheno and Euryale are absolutely helpless if you can no sell the simp aura. I wonder how Shinji will deal with this smug creature in the flesh?
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>>4721297
>last time someone shilled shit got fucked
Good point.
Maybe not.
>simp to Stheno and Euryale
Only Simper of Imaginary Numbers is retarded enough for that. Shinji is well aware of just how insidious these little she-devils shits are.
>Odin Pseudo
Can't wait for him to start killstealing. But honestly it's probably someone else. Morrigan is associated with Crows, right? Is Cu a tranny right now?
>offscreen Baz
It is Baz, being offscreened is kinda her thing.
We need to abuse Cu's geas.
What is it, he is forced to lose to an ulster born man wielding Caladbolg? Time to grab an irishman.
>>4721301
Hopefully he gives them a huge dressing down for being horrible emotionally abusive siblings who hate humans and are pretty much the sole reason Medusa originally became the Gorgon.
They also constantly drained Medusa of blood because it was tasty or something, to the point Medusa freezes up when a loli leaps at her.
Wow holy shit Jack would DESTROY Medusa wouldn't she?
Then they truly condemned Medusa when they simultaneously developed their vore fetishes and decided they wanted Medusa to eat them when she was the Gorgon.
I am genuinely interested to see how Medusa would react to somebody standing up for her.
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>>4721305
Morrigan, Lugh (cu's dad) Cu himself and Odin all feature crows as a thing in their myths.

Have the girls offer cu organdog meat, he can't refuse. I don't think anyone besides Cu and Bazett are Irish. Maybe we could check out a bar and try and find a tourist? Or just have Abby make shota Fergus so Shinji has a son
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>>4721301
>>4721305
Time to fully narrate their life and emotional stories from all fate material right in their face during first meeting before they even introduce themselves.
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>>4721308
While T-posing
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>>4721223
>and a Forever Carnival might've taken place!
I am very interested in the prospect of a Forever Carnival and I think we should try for it as soon as we have a chance.
Think about it, an eternity of fun~!
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>>4721307
>Shota Fergus
Oh no, the NBR relationships between our children, what are you doing?!
Wasn't Morrigan a Cu husbandofag?
But I mean who wasn't at the time?
Odin would be fun just so we can have Sakura bully him into non-existence.
>>4721308
>>4721310
They don't deserve anything else.
>>4721312
An eternity of pain.
I'd rather not cause the death of logic.
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>>4721317
Shota Fergus has good manners.

On the topic though, if BB becomes a real issue we could have Betty create John Smith to deal with her.
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>>4721312
Before we conquer Britannia we should go back to Misaki Town and barge into the cafe just to steal all of the neco-arcs. Omai wa subete no watashi da!
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>>4721318
You madman.
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>>4721317
>An eternity of pain
I'm surprised we haven't called any of our enemies niggers, or a faggot or a combination of both yet while t-posing. Maybe we're too nice?
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>>4721288
There have been some surprisingly decent threads there lately. Guess Sakura really brought everyone together.

>>4721294
I don't think it's Odin. Cu was already a servant. I bet he was twisted into Berserker Cu.
Bazett is either possessed by an Assassin (more likely) or by someone who can no-sell Medea's magic (less likely). No way she's dead.
We are certainly running into Medusa's family soon.
I hope not.
50/50 I'd say.

>>4721297
God also didn't tell us to go after Monica, and we certainly care about her. They are all almost certainly distractions, like Shuten was. Or "God" was full of shit.
I think we can certainly avoid any deaths against him. He wasn't very succesful in the original timeline after all, and the firepower we have access to right now is staggering. We just have to not be dumb about it.

>>4721305
>I am genuinely interested to see how Medusa would react to somebody standing up for her
We'll find out soon enough. That's the whole reason we're here. My guess? 99/100
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>>4721324
>My guess? 99/100
She's already willing to have a threesome with us with Sakura if we go for Sakura route. They do everything together, remember?
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>>4721326
True, but her heart wouldn't really be in it. She liked us but didn't love us.
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>>4721320
We don't have to go to Misaki Town. Fuyuki has an entrance to Ahnenerbe as well.
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>>4721270
Senpai I have a suggestion! Can we have a segment where all of the very horny, unfulfilled women and girls in the cast confront the QM about there being no H scenes? Also have Shiki, Shirou and even Ayaka laugh at Shinji for being a virgin because even Ayaka probably had sex with one of the himbos in her otome harem too.
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Medusa vs Seibah clip from the hf3 movie. She seems to reinforce her legs? Also lmao A Agility vs D, why does this stat even exist again?
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>>4721332
Stats are nothing more than a guideline.
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>>4721323
Shinji is a pretty nice guy here.
I guess he doesn't want to be rude.
>>4721320
Fuck it why not?
>>4721324
>99/100 Medusa
It's all gonna be worth it, guys.
>>4721332
Mana Burst is OP.
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>>4721332
Saber only kept up by her Instinct skill, and had enough mana to work with to undo the mystic eyes for the most part. Her legs were probably still a little petrified. This scene was better than the VN for sure.

My favorite part is:
>Rider: "Whats's the matter, are you worried about Shirou?"
>Rider: "Don't worry he won't move from there, I have his trust after all"
>Rider: "Oh... that's right, you were-"
>SAlter: "Nonsense!"
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>>4721331
But anon! We'd disappoint God-senpai if we slept with women who weren't our wives yet!
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>>4721337
The Bible only says we have to give her father 50 shekels and then marry them after the fact. Rape is fine too. Deuteronomy 22:28-29
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>>4721337
We are his new prophet anon. We'll write another bible where incest, polygamy and extramarital sex are specifically encouraged.
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>>4721339
It's almost worth turning Gray into Rhongomyniad so she'll incinerate Israel for us.
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>>4721339
We follow the New Testament
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>>4721223
>>>Ba-Dump Date Super Plan Redux Revengeance Extreme!
>>>A Super Special Eldritch Errand!
>>>Trading Places: Shinji's worst ever day.
>>>Fifth Holy Grail War (Normal Mode) Any% WR
>>>The Great Council of Shinji
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>>4721344
Alex will shape them up, don't worry.
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>>4721339
>Rape is fine too
"In fact if a hussy is out of line and refuses to go back to the kitchen, it is encouraged that you put at least one baby in her stomach to remind her of her duties."
- Tohno-kun probably
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>>4721342
I can't wait to show up and dab on Goetia with Truth.
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Would it be immoral if we adopted Stheno and Euryale but married Medusa?
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>>4721297
I think Cu literally just got amped up, he becomes disgusting if he's summoned in Ireland and gets 2 extra NPs and a blessing while summoned there, there's no reason for him to get fused if an amped up Normal him is already so strong. Also we like Cu and he's on that list too
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>>4721353
So our sister-in law is our daughter-in law? How would that work? Would Sakura be their Aunts technically?
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Judging by the current strawpoll there should be a new Fuyuki WR set soon
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>>4721355
People you marry don't become your sister anon.
We just want to marry our sister.
And maybe her sister too seeing as Rin seems to have mellowed out a bit.
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>>4721354
Hello, can I interest you in this lovely hot dog made of genuine dog, prepared by my younger sister Mr. Setanta?
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>>4721358
>And maybe her sister too seeing as Rin seems to have mellowed out a bit.
I thought we'd agreed she'd make a good couple with redman?
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>>4721353
It would be immoral to turn tables on Stheno and Euryale and make them simp for us.
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>>4721360
They need to produce two children that look like Ritsuka, and we make them name the two kids Ritsuka and Ritsuko. Full circle.
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>>4721360
jannies have no gf

>>4721361
better yet, use Truth to let them age naturally so they grow hideously tall
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>>4721362
Yes.

>>4721364
>jannies have no gf
I thought we'd agreed to ask Alaya to fire him?
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>>4721360
Archer had his chance but he decided to become a jannie
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>>4721360
It would be kinder to set him up with Mitsuzuri or a member of the Track and Field team.
Or Taiga.
Somebody who he could live a peaceful life with.
>>4721361
No, that would be based.
>>4721364
Oh no!
That poor dog!
Also that would be a deliciously fitting punishment for them.
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>>4721297
was the quest actually shilled on /a/? I know the threads of being isekai'd as Shinji started there and inspired the quest
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>>4721371
It was i only found out this place existed because it was shilled there.
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>>4721362
No, because in this timeline the FGO Masters will be Shirou and Saber's superbabies.
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>>4721371
I don't know where it was initially shilled other than /a/ but there was a large influx at one point and then a forced hiatus. Maybe /fgog/ or /alter/ on /vg/?

I'd probably ask WhatIs if he wants any kind of advertisement first, you risk shitting up the thread in doing so.
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Hype
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>Ba-Dump Date Super Plan Redux Revengeance Extreme!
My plan is to throw Shirou and Shiki under the bus hard when we inevitably get caught
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Poor faphand, bullied by worms
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>>4721366
We've given a lot of people a second chance. Hell, Kiritsugu gets a second second chance after we pull him out of the bear. Doesn't our best pal Shirou deserve it?

>>4721386
And they're both extremely monogamous in this timeline. I approve.
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Whatis awake yet?
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>Nrvnqsr is an apex predator capable of eating and absorbing anything
>gets eaten by Sakura and absorbed
>who is then eaten by Gorgon and probably absorbed
>who is then probably eaten and absorbed by Orochi.
The circle of life, everyone.
Sneks reign supreme
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>>4721392
He posted the thread and poll, didn't he?
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>>4721392
The thread + poll posted itself
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>>4721395
OH yeah, sorry it's been a long morning
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>>4721387
>under the skull is another skull
A mask of my own face.
I'd wear that.
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Speedrun WR is winning. Are you guys ready for “RANCA GA SHIN DA”?! BECAUSE I AM
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Just wanna get one thing out of the way, Sakura's the main heroine right? In the same way Saber is in FSN and Arc is in Tsukihime
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>>4721403
Yes
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>>4721403
Medea.
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>>4721403
Obviously, yes. It was all for that smile.
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>>4721403
>Sakura is the main heroine.
No.
That's our cute wife Medea.
Or our autistic wife Mordred.
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>>4721407
Moedred is the best
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>>4721403
It's both her and Medea in this quest
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>>4721403
Yes
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>>4721411
I'll accept that. Our sisterwife and our casterwife are the best.
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>>4721403
I don't know who deserves happiness more, Sakura or Satsuki?
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>>4721414
What about poor Illya?
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>>4721403
You have it all backwards. Shinji is the main Heroine. There are many suitors, some have been family-zoned. This doesn't always stop them.
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>>4721415
She has Teenage Alcides, we're incarnating him too so he doesn't shoot blanks.
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Speaking of waifus i have yet to see a giselle or miho fag in this quest.
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>>4721417
Plus, we're well on our way to making picrel a reality.
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>>4721419
There WERE Giselle fags in the earlier parts of the story.
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>>4721421
This picture but age up Illya and add Taiga, Kerry Assassin, Shirou, and EMIYA
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>>4721419
I think Miho just came too late.
>>4721422
Giselle isn't relevant enough.
We need to dragonize her for another qt OP wife
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>>4721419
better waifus probably
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>>4721419
Am Gisellefag. She isn't in the story much because we're hauling ass on a time limit this Grail War. We can't have too many natural moments happen with other characters because Shinji literally cannot stop acting (except in unconsciousness visions or meetings) or everybody else dies. Once the Grail War is over, then we can see about knocking up our personal maid... along with every other woman
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>>4721432
Based Gisellefag.
She'll teach Sakura's sisterclone how to be our maid too.
I want to go through Extra CCC with a BB whipped into being a proper maid by our side, just to baffle the Alter-egos and CCC BB.
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Now that the time has nearly come, when we get out of Gorgon's vore hell, who deserves Dragonblood most?
I don't think it will work on Servants or Lugh or Arc, so...
>Us
>Sakura (already got Tiamat doubt it would work)
>Rin
>Shirou
>SHIKI (would it even work on him or Ciel?)
>Shiki
>Satsuki
>Illya
>Sella
>Leysritt
>Giselle
>Aoko
>Touko
>Mordred
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>>4721440
Shirou just cause it would make him more GAR
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>>4721440
Shirou, Slash Emperor might be a chekov's gun that we have to use.
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>>4721440
Us I guess?
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>>4721442
Dragonblood Shirou would be a god among men
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>>4721440
Shirou so he can be a bit dragon like his wife
Giselle because our personal maid
Satsuki
Shiki
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>>4721417
that's disgusting, that'd be like if he slept with his little sister
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>>4721450
Yeah, Alcides is for incarnating to go on cool boat adventures with Jason.
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>>4721450
So.... what Shinji would be doing with Sakura?
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>>4721453
that's different, we're hypocrites
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>Fate/Type Moon discord became a Shinji themed Discord
LMAO. Now I can discuss this quest there and nobody will question it because ‘tis april fools
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>>4721454
I think Herc is probably more into the big booba type anyway.
Or uh.
Men.
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>>4721457
>discord
Don't get groomed anon
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>>4721459
Aoko always on the hunt
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>>4721460
I still have a head canon to this day that Aoko only came back in Shinji's teens to avoid the police, and that nippon age of consent is like 16-17. Shounen H daisekou-ya!
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>>4721465
Shiki's teens not Shinji's teens oops. Aw well, Shinji was also groomed in both the OG timeline and in paradox reincarnated timeline.
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Guys what if QM got banished to Quebec?
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>>4721465
Touko is the superior groomer because she managed to stay near her target throughout chlidhood and adolescence without being detected.
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>>4721468
That would be very unfortunate. Worst April Fool's ever.
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>>4721468
Nah I think the joke is none of these will actually be written ....nah but for real though he’s probably just busy.
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>>4721468
I have a theory that he is indeed a Canadian or a Europoor since he's never stepped foot in redneck heaven, I mean Walmart. Wild Card is that he's Brazillian or a Mexican cause they seem to like Fate a lot too.
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>>4721474
Do they have Wendy's in Brazil?
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Keep pondering the Truth of my nationality.
I could've been double bluffing about Walmart, I could just have no feet.
Anyway, let's get this show on the road.
Writing the option with most votes now.
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>>4721474
He is Cascadian.
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>>4721478
>I could just have no feet.
G-gorgon?
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>>4721478
>Fifth Holy Grail War (Normal Mode) Any% WR
Let's fucking gooooooooooo
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Give me a second, first side-story is almost done...
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>>4721526
Ganbatte.
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You blink. Something isn't quite right. This... This isn't your room. Well, that's not quite true, this is your room, but you certainly shouldn't be in it right now. This house should be in a state of disrepair! Something has clearly happened, and you bound out of bed before you fall flat on your face, your muscles feeling weaker and your body softer than normal. You quickly get up off the floor to look at yourself in the mirror. You look like the sort of person who does the bare minimum he needs to keep his body in shape! Your gains have all vanished! You can still feel all your magic circuits, so at least they haven't changed. You instinctively do all that you can to prevent them from leaking even the slightest bit of magical energy, your blessed circuits still present and allowing you to make them almost completely invisible. Also, interestingly enough, you have three dormant Command Spells on your hand, almost invisible to the naked eye, but you can just about make out the three faded blobs of black ink that made up the original form of your Command Spells.

"Oh. Shit." You quickly realize just what must've happened, and you almost vomit when you realize just what this body you're currently inhabiting has been responsible for. You try to clear your thoughts of such things as you almost get dressed in a school uniform to head downstairs before you check the day and realize that it's actually a Saturday. Hopefully you'll be able to figure out just what is going on as the day progresses. It's pretty clear that you aren't in your own timeline anymore though.

You head downstairs slowly, almost cautiously, yet at the moment you reach the bottom step, you hear a voice, the voice of an old man you were dreading to hear. "Shinji! Come here! It's time you proved your worth to the Matou!" Zouken. Well, at least this variation of the bastard has yet to permanently bond himself to a damn Snake God. You do as your 'grandfather' asks and obediently enter the living room, where Sakura is standing awkwardly, with a blindfolded woman standing protectively in front of her Master "Good. Shinji, Sakura here isn't prepared to fight in the Holy Grail War, so I'm going to have to ask you to take her place." The old man passes you a book. "This book will allow you to control Rider, so long as you spill a drop of your..." You ignite the book in your hand with a flame, and watch it burn up.

"What a shame, it was a good book. Now, Medusa, please be a dear and use your Mystic Eyes on this old worm bastard for me, would you? He's the one behind all of Sakura's suffering, and he doesn't deserve to live, I promise you that on the souls of your sisters. Don't worry, I can save Sakura from any consequences of this." You reassure the two girls, who are both obviously not sure what's even going on anymore.
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Medusa looks startled for a moment at your words, and looks to Sakura who nods, a scared and confused expression on her face, not knowing just what it is that you're up to. It really hurts you to see Sakura look at you with those eyes. Rider dematerializes her blindfold.

"What are you talking about, you impudent little br- Zouken stops talking.

"Shut up. This time I'm not going to make any mistakes." You silence Zouken by interrupting him just as Rider silences him by activating her Mystic Eyes on him. You conjure the same flame in your hand that you used to purge Sakura's body of Zouken's influence the first time. "Trust me when I do this please, Sakura, Rider." Without any more warning to the two girls, you send the ball of Truth-made flame directly at Sakura, using it to target only the crest worms within her body, quickly all the familiars of Zouken that were inside of Sakura are completely incinerated. Sakura falls to the ground, unhurt, but clearly affected greatly by your magic.

All the while, Zouken is fast turning into nothing but a statue, incapable of even moving as his body solidifies into gray stone, his face one of pure seething anger even as it permanently settles that way forevermore. Even while this is going on, you don't allow yourself to take satisfaction in the death of the old bastard, and you quickly lean over Sakura and start to use Truth Healing on her, in order to fully fix her up.

"Nii-san?" Is about all that Sakura can even say when you help her up from the floor, and she looks at the statue of Zouken. She's clearly completely bewildered by the ease at which you just dealt with Zouken, under five minutes in total to save Sakura and kill Zouken. Not bad.

"Sorry, Sakura, I'll explain everything to you a little later, but I just realized that I've got a pretty filled out schedule, you wouldn't mind if I borrowed Rider to help me, would you? And... Look, I'm... not the Shinji I was before, I came from a different timeline, and I can only apologize to you for what he did to you." You reinforce your leg and deliver a kick to the Zouken statue, shattering the ugly bastard into hundreds of shards of stone. "And don't come back this time, you asshole!" You yell at the shards before Sakura can even respond to you.

"Uh... I... OK, Nii-san... I... Think it would be better if you went with him for now, Rider." Sakura still doesn't look like she knows what to make of anything about this entire situation.

"Understood, Master." Rider is quick to follow Sakura's commands, and follows you out of the room, leaving Sakura, who has an expression torn between absolute bewilderment and true gratitude on her face. Rider's face is once again covered with Breaker Gorgon, however, or well, at least her eyes are.
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"Good, now, Rider, I'm going to need you to take me to the forests of Fuyuki, near the temple." Hopefully you're not too late to stop Caster from contracting with Kuzuki, you're going to need her strength and abilities to win this.

"Very well... Shinji, but... do you have a vehicle available for us to use?" Unfortunately not, however, that can easily be solved. The two of you walk out of the house, and you immediately just walk up to a parked car, break the lock with your magecraft, and get in.

"Come on, you're the Rider here, get in!" The car you steal isn't a super car by any stretch of the imagination, but it will have to do. "Your Riding skill... It's A+ right?" Rider gets in on the drivers side, before she looks at you. You know, driving with a blindfold on might seem like a terrible idea, but

"Correct." Rider keeps her answer short and sweet.

"Excellent, then get going, I'll give you the directions as we travel." You keep your response short too.

It doesn't take a long time to get close to the temple, only about ten minutes in total thanks to Rider's skill at driving, and you're a little bit earlier than when you arrived with Illya. Still, you easily return to the place where you once found Caster, and you don't even need Rider's assistance to locate her. "Master! It's... an enemy Servant!"

"Very observant, Rider. But I'm not your Master, remember?" You keep your voice deadpan as you look at Caster, who is trying to crawl away from you and Rider. "Oi! Caster! Do you want to live? If so, take my hand, and I'll contract with you." The desperate Caster reluctantly takes your hand, before you feel the contract take hold. While you're a little disappointed that you don't have Betty with you, it's just incentive to return to your original world after you've solved this problem grail war, so far it seems like it's far less of a problem than the Grail War you're having to deal with. "OK, next up, Caster! I want you to teleport us to the location I'm sending through to you through our newly established mental link."

"I... Guess?" Even Caster doesn't seem like she knows what to make of you either. She raises her staff into the air, and with a word of power, you vanish to your next destination along with Rider and Caster. "Tροψα!"

You soon find yourself standing in Shirou's living room, the boy himself drops his eating utensils as the three of you teleport in. Taiga is looking similarly stunned at the blatant violation of physics. "Hypnotize the woman please, Caster." It only takes the powerful magus from the Age of Gods a single action to do so, and Taiga falls to the ground before she can even say a word. "Don't worry about Taiga, Shirou, I'm here because I need your help. Rider, please pick Shirou here up."

"Wait a second! Shinji?! Could you at least explain what's going on?" Shirou sounds as bewildered as one might expect somebody being teleport kidnapped would be.
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"You're going to help me save the world, Shirou, but first I need you to summon your fiancee." You leave the room, heading out to his special magic shed and beckon for your Servants to follow you. "Rider, Caster, please follow me. Don't hurt Shirou though, he's a dear friend of mine."

"What does that even mean!?" Shirou tries to struggle against Rider. "Answer me, Shinji!" You don't answer him, and instead have Rider carry him all the way out into his shed, where you can see that a magic circle has activated thanks to being in close proximity to a potential Master. You don't know who originally used this house to create this circle, but you suppose it really doesn't matter. "Rider, put Shirou on that magic circle please." The Servant does as you ask her, and there's a bright flash of light as she does.

Standing directly above Shirou and looking down at him, is Saber, who thankfully can at least read the room and understands that there's no ongoing fight occurring, so she doesn't attempt to attack Caster or Rider. "I ask of you, are you my Master?"

"Uh..." Shirou seems completely flustered as he looks at the woman.

"Say 'yes' Shirou. That's how these magical contract things tend to work." You helpfully join in.

"Uhh... Yes?" Shirou takes your advice, and Saber smiles very faintly at him.

"Excellent. I take it that you've already managed to secure an alliance with these two Servants as well?" Saber has her arms crossed as she looks at you, Rider and Caster with wary eyes.

"In a sense, that's correct." You answer for Shirou once again, as the boy clearly has no idea what the hell is even happening anymore. "Though the stakes are a little higher than what you might believe... I'll... tell you everything when we get inside."

After a brief explanation to your three allies of just what is actually going on, and Saber's reluctant acceptance that the Holy Grail might not be in a usable state, your group proceeds to rapidly the issues of the grail war. First you go to Rin with Sakura, give her the full explanation, and tell her to summon her Servant so that she can kill Kotomine for killing Tokiomi ten years ago, and that's about all it takes for her to go ahead and immediately summon Archer, who looks really kind of bothered by things. Next up is Illya, who is much harder to convince, but thankfully, she agrees to at least a temporary alliance with you when you manage to have Caster use some scrying magic to reveal the interior of Fuyuki Church, and the blonde man wearing his ridiculous outfit within it. It takes quite a bit of convincing to actually get her to accept that the man is Gilgamesh. Next up is of course getting Bazett on side, but when most of the grail war shows up on her doorstep to inform her that the grail is corrupt and that it needs to be shut down, she really cant argue against you.
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Just like that, everyone is together, and the seventh servant has yet to even be summoned! While you could probably have Caster summon Assassin, it's not really a necessity, Kirei is forced to confess to his crimes against Rin thanks to Caster's magic before Caster gets bored and just incinerates the priest with a single spell.

Then, it comes down to the final confrontation.

Lancer lies dead at Gilgamesh's feet, and you grit your teeth. "You damn mongrels really thought that I was just going to let you run rampant all over my plans?" The King of Heroes has his greatest weapon, Ea, drawn, and is wearing his nearly invincible Golden Armor as well, he's very obviously taking the combined force of the Grail War very seriously. "Let me teach you the error of your ways, you damn dogs!" The segments of Ea begin to spin.

"Oi. Gilgamesh." You call out in a calm voice. "I'd look behind you if I were you."

"Ha! Such a pathetic trick, as expected from a mongrel dog like you!" Looks like Gilgamesh is a massive jerk when he's not got Manaka around to scare some sense into him. Ah well. "Now, prepare yourself! Enu-!"

THUMP!

A massive golden clawed foot smashes down on top of the King of Heroes, crushing him instantly despite the incredible protective power of his Golden Armor. You... did try to warn him. "Good job, Alítheia! You run up to the leg of your Dragon Daughter and give her a hug, even while she's still in her dragon form she's still your adorable daughter! You're a little bit wary of getting too close to the Gilgamesh paste out of personal preference, but it can't be helped. You weren't just going to go after Gilgamesh without a trump card up your sleeve that you were sure would give you the win. Of course, you weren't expecting that Gilgamesh was just going to stand there and take it. What a jobber.

Well, with Gilgamesh, Kirei and Zouken dealt with, all that's left is to go and deal with a grail that cannot possibly act to defend itself! You check your watch for some reason, and realize that it has only been about four hours and twelve minutes since you arrived by waking up. Hmmph.

World Record Attained
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>>4721555
Nice
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>>4721555
Perfect.

Next Segment:
SHINJIBOWL - DATE THE GIRL OF YOUR DREAMS....and by that I mean begrudgingly accept that you need a Harem unless you want to die
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>>4721555
Brilliant! Alitheia best dragon daughteru of two timelines! And Lancer died!

Now for the part I'm looking forward the most, I assume. picrel

Also
>You don't know who originally used this house to create this circle, but you suppose it really doesn't matter
Wasn't it made in the 4th war to help Irisviel last longer when they moved there?
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>>4721555
Its paffecto!
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>>4721555
Perfection.
>and you almost vomit when you realize just what this body you're currently inhabiting has been responsible for
Love that detail.
And Alítheia is truly the best daughter.
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>>4721555
Typical.
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>>4721575
He even jobbed to glasses-less Ayaka in our timeline. Carnival Phantasm 2 needs to address this meme like Ransa ga shinda.
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>>4721575
Extella Link even has him running away with a tail between his legs after he was rescued from being living battery.
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"Shirou! Shiki! I'm... I'm calling an emergency meeting!" You race up to the two boys, who look at you with curious expressions.

"What's up, Shinji?" Shirou tilts his head in confusion at your panic.

"W-well... It's Valentine's Day today, right?" You confirm with the two of your close allies. You have no idea where SHIKI is, probably stalking somebody as usual.

"Yeah, I've got a nice trip out planned with Saber." Shirou smiles goofily. You can tell he's going to be no help at all!

"Ah yeah, my schedule is pretty full, honestly, I'm spending the first half of the day with Sensei, and the second half with Akiha. Why?" Shiki sounds a little more curious as to why you brought it up, and you proceed to reveal thirteen seperate letters, all of varying design, but they all clearly share a theme. That theme being lovehearts.

Shirou looks at you in continued confusion as Shiki suddenly bursts into uncontrollable laughter and rolls around on the floor. "Ahahahaha! You're totally fucked!"

"Thanks for the encouraging words. I was wondering if the two of you could help me uh... plan out a way to... uh... date all of them at the same time." Come on, if anybody can help you with a problem like this, it's Shiki. He might not have as many girls attached to him just yet, but he's the guy you should talk to when it comes to managing girls like that.

"AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Are you out of your mind?! You're totally screwed! You may as well hide in a box and hope nobody will be able to find you!" While the idea of hiding in Zelretch's chest in Rin's house has occurred to you, and you might've actually taken that as a way to run from your problems. The big problem is that one of the messages is actually from Rin. You aren't exactly inspired with a lot of hope by the fact that even Shiki is laughing at you for getting yourself involved in this madness. "Sure, I'll help you out with this, it'll be a laugh."
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About half an hour later, and you're looking at the world's most complex plan. You're pretty sure that most plans to invade nations have fewer steps than this.

(8:40) Arrive at a bar with Shuten, offer to pay for whatever her tab ends up being. Pay a million yen up-front.
(8:42) Leave the bar
(8:55) Arrive at the Zoo with Mordred.
(9:00) Take Mordred to Petting Zoo
(9:02) Leave Mordred at Petting Zoo
(9:03) Meet Medusa at Reptile House.
(9:05) Disappear from Reptile House.
(9:05) Bump into Sakura, who should be walking past the Reptile House, take her to the gift shop.
(9:06) Pretend you need to get some money from an ATM, leave Sakura at the gift shop.
(9:07) Meet Medea at the zoo's coffee shop.
(9:08) Drink scalding hot coffee in one go and pretend that you need to go the toilet, leave coffee shop.
(9:10) Race to other coffee shop, meet Touko there, share a quick cup of coffee and use same excuse as with Medea.
(9:13) Meet Arcueid at the primate enclosure.
(9:15) Make bad excuse. Run away.
(9:16) Catch breath + pray
(9:17) Meet Rin outside the lion enclosure.
(9:18) Distract Rin for long enough that you can disappear.
(9:19) Leave Zoo entirely.
(9:35) Arrive at Theme Park.
(9:40) Meet up with Illya and Giselle, take the two of them on a few rides together. Have some fun.
(9:55) Accidentally get swept away by a crowd, meet up with Tamamo. Buy some cotton candy for her.
(9:57) Use Amethyst to warp away from Tamamo.
(9:59) Go find Mordred again, apologize for getting separated from her, pet a few rabbits with her.
(10:03) Excuse self from Mordred. Go meet up with Satsuki. Feed her some of your blood over breakfast.
(10:07) Find Ciel at curry shop.
(...)
The list goes on like this for about six more hours worth of time. Shiki, upon looking at the completed diagram, began laughing so much that his sides could probably qualify for the Voyager Class Container.
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"Oh man, dude. You are so completely screwed. I feel bad for you." Shiki has no sympathy for you, it seems. The damn bastard! He'd be suffering this same problem if not for you!

"Huh? I think that it will work! Shinji can do anything!" Shirou's confidence in you raises your spirits for a few moments until you look at the task laid out before you. Yeah, not even Pioneer of the Stars: EX could deal with this impossibility.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGKAEaXQoEQ

"Huh? Where's that music coming from?" Shiki scratches his head in confusion.

"Outsider! I have come to repay you the great favor you did me!" Gilgamesh's voice has a happy tone to it, as a shining golden portal appears in the center of the room.

"Gilgamesh?!" Shirou jumps back in surprise as the King of Heroes walks through a rippling golden portal, and he traces both Kanshou and Bakuya, ready for a fight.

Gilgamesh doesn't pay any sort of attention to Shirou at all, completely ignoring him and instead focuses on you. "Outsider, I happen to have private ownership of the largest water-based theme park in all of Fuyuki, and indeed, in this whole region of the country!" Yes, you're well aware of that, that's why you never tried to actually buy the place with your own fortune. "Here, I heard your predicament, and decided that seeing as you helped me with a romantic endeavor, I should pay back the favor." The King of Heroes holds out the pass to Waku-Waku Splash. Could... this truly be your salvation?

>Take the pass.
>Trust the plan.
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>>4721584
>Take the pass.
At least we die in a pool surrounded by ladies in swimsuits.
Will you post swimsuit art for references, WhatIs?
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>>4721584
>>Take the pass.
T-Thanks, h-how's Aya doing?
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>>4721584
>Take the pass.
The plan is insane. Disapearing for one hour at a time, the girls would notice.
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>>4721587
If it wins I might.
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>>4721584
>Take the pass.
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>>4721584
>Take the pass.
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>>4721584
>Trust the plan.
It'll work. It'll work for sure.

>>4721591
Now that's unfair. What about a special summer episode beach party?
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>>4721584
>>Take the pass.
girls in swimsuits, we gotta do it
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>>4721581
>AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Are you out of your mind?! You're totally screwed! You may as well hide in a box and hope nobody will be able to find you
i'm 100% gonna enjoy throwing him under the bus when we get caught
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>>4721584
>>Trust the plan.
Shirou has faith in us, we can do it!
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>>4721581
>The big problem is that one of the messages is actually from Rin
well this confirms what Rin's affection rating for us is then
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>>4721576
he's gonna get cucked by Arthur, i feel it in my bones that this is gonna be the King of Jobber's future
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>>4721607
It's only fair that we have twins in our harem we can't lose to Shiki in that department.
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>>4721584
>Take the pass.
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>>4721584
>Take the pass.

Based Gil
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"Master! It's a Servant summoning confirmed!" Mash yells excitedly, about time, Ritsuka had been having some pretty dreadful luck when it came to summoning Servants recently. Nothing but Black Keys and Mapo Tofu. She really hoped that this new Servant was going to be helpful for clearing the Singularities, she didn't really know how to best use the Five Stars she had, and she kept getting beaten by the bosses. She... has only just managed to get through America... "It's... It's a powerful Servant too! Class... Saver?!" Mash yells out in surprise, and Ritsuka's attention is suddenly locked entirely onto the circle. Saver? She's never heard of a Saver class before!

There's a great explosion of white light, as a man with long blue hair in a suit appears standing in the center of the summoning circle. "Oh? This is what that looks like from the other side, huh?" The blue haired man says something strange before he looks Ritsuka straight in the eyes before yawning. "How droll." The man sounds very displeased about being summoned for some reason, but that doesn't even really make any sense! For a Servant to be summoned, don't they have to actually... well, agree to being summoned?

"Uhm... Welcome to Chaldea, Saver-san! I'm Ritsuka Fujimura, and over there is Mash Kyrielight!" Ritsuka offers the man a hand, a friendly gesture with a smile on her face. "Let's get along and save the world together, alright?" The man frowns as he takes her hand with some hesitation. It's strange that he doesn't exactly seem all that happy about being here.

"Call me Shinji please, Gudako, you don't need to call me by my Servant Class, this isn't a grail war. Oh and we're... not on the Chinese Server, right?" The man asks something very odd, and Ritsuka barely knows how to even respond to his question.

"What exactly are you talking about... Shinji?" Ritsuka can already tell that as far as Servants go, this one... he might just be the most eccentric of all of them. Also, Gudako? What sort of a name is that? It's a very strange nickname.

"Just... give me a second." The man coughs into his hand to clear his throat. "动态网自由门 天安門 天安门 法輪功 李洪志 Free Tibet 六四天安門事件 The Tiananmen Square protests of 1989 天安門大屠殺 The Tiananmen Square Massacre 反右派鬥爭 The Anti-Rightist Struggle 大躍進政策 The Great Leap Forward... Yeah, that ought to do it." After spouting off a bizarre mixture of both English and Chinese words, the man looks smug, before he winks directly at Ritsuka. She can only blink in surprise at the strange outburst. "Alright, now, I guess this is the part where you take me to my new room, or something, so you can hear me say the same 15 voice lines over and over again?" He's still smirking.

"Huh?" Ritsuka still doesn't know what the man is trying to say. She's... fairly certain that he doesn't have Madness Enhancement as a skill, so... why is he acting like this?
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"Don't worry about it, it's not meant for you, it's meant for you." He winks again. What a strange strange person. Maybe not Madness Enhancement, but Insanity instead? "Speaking of you, Master, I had really expected you to be a little bit... different. You're not nearly as... uh, rabid, as I was made to believe you would be. Like a lunatic obsessed only with Saint Quartz."

"W-what?!" Ritsuka really can't believe what this new Servant is saying. Why would she be obsessed with Saint Quartz? While it's true that it's the resource that makes the Chaldea summoning systems function, she could hardly call herself obsessed with it.

"Relax, Master. It's a good thing, I assure you." The man looks kind of bored as he says that, like it's not actually a good thing and he's just saying that in some strange attempt to conceal his true emotions on the matter. Did he... want her to act like a rabid lunatic? This Servant just gets stranger by the second.

"Ah! Sasaki! The Savior of France himself! Killed any Dragons today?" The Assassin shies away from the strange blue haired man as he is called out to, clearly uncomfortable with being treated so familiarly by somebody who he doesn't know. This keeps happening as the Master and her newly summoned Servant wander through the halls of the large facility, the man keeps calling out to random Servants, the majority of which don't seem know him at all. She's pretty certain that she sees him blow a kiss towards Medea. Even stranger though, is the fact that the normally romantically unflappable Medea blushes at the display for some reason. Huh?!

"OK, Shinji! We're finally here! This is your room!" Ritsuka opens up the door to the room that has been assigned to Saver, which is quite obviously just a plague with the 'b' in 'Saber' hastily turned to a 'v'. It's clean and plain, most Servants will either be the sort to decorate by themselves, or are simply OK with staying in basic accommodations.

The man sighs as he looks at the room, and runs a hand through his hair. "You know, Gudako... I can't help but feel like there's a... bit of a lack of... well, of the rarer and more powerful Servants around here." The man sounds almost as if he's pitying her. "You... must've rolled a lot of Black Keys, huh?" Somehow... He knows. Unexpectedly, the man puts a hand on the top of her head and lightly ruffles her hair. "What Singularity are you on right now, Master? Or are we up to Lostbelts already?"

"We're... about to go through the Camelot Singularity, but... it's been a real struggle to get to this point. Also... what's a lost belt?" Ritsuka is genuinely worried even by the name 'lostbelt' it doesn't sound like it can be anything good.
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"Uhhhh, forget I said 'lostbelt', OK? It's not relevant. But... You aren't very good at this, so I'm going to give you a tip on how to get further!" The man starts talking like a madman again. "Whenever you have a bad turn, or something goes wrong... just restart the game!" He laughs, as if the advice he's giving is something anybody could figure out.

"W-what?"

The man winks again. "Oh you know exactly what I mean. Anyway, give me a few hours to settle in, and I'll show you just what God's chosen savior of Mankind is capable of!" The man boasts, and Ritsuka still has no idea what to make of him, even as she walks away. One thing is for certain, Chaldea is going to be a much more interesting place now that he has arrived.
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Bonus

Summoned: "This is what it looks like from the other side, huh? How droll. Servant, Saver, True name... You should probably call me Shinji. Let's get along... Player."

Level Up: "Oh look, my ATK and HP values went up!"

1st Ascension: "Excellent! One step closer to being back to my actual power! But... I'm not really a big fan of this outfit, it reminds me too much of grandfather."

2nd Ascension: "Well, my outfit hasn't changed, but I feel a little bit stronger, so... Thanks?"

3rd Ascension: "Hey! What the hell is this! Why am I dressed in a school uniform! And why am I a teenager! Damn it all!"

4th Ascension: "Well, now I can show you my full power. Prepare to see the unrivaled power of he who controls Truth! Hahahahahaha! This is the full power of a Limited SSR Servant!"

Dialogue (EMIYA): "Ah, EMIYA. Good to see him, I wonder if he remembers me...?"

Dialogue (Most Pseudo-Servants): "Excuse me, Master, but you wouldn't mind if I were to have all the divine and heroic spirits possessing human hosts... destroyed, would you? I've had a bad experience with them in the past, you see."

Dialogue (Shuten Dōji): "Oh, you summoned Shuten? Ha, good luck with her, Master, you strike me as the sort of person she'll enjoy leading on to devour you at her leisure."

Dialogue (Medusa, Medusa (Child), Gorgon) "Medusa is here! I hope she's doing alright."

Dialogue (Kama, Parvati): *Barely restrained anger*

Dialogue (Medea): "Ah, Medea is here? I wonder if she's busy..."

Dialogue (Any Magical Girl): "Don't... Remind me of... that time."

Dialogue (Tamamo-no-Mae): "Please don't remember me, please don't remember me, please don't remember me..."

Dialogue (Mordred): "I wonder if she needs any advice..."

Dialogue (Mordred and EMIYA): "Hey, Master, get EMIYA to trace Mordred a copy of Caliburn. Just trust me on this one."

Dialogue (Any Dragonkind): "Ah, sorry, I got reminded of somebody dear to me, what were you saying, Master?"

Dialogue (Abigail Williams): "Ah, so this is the original Abigail, hmm? Perhaps I should help truly excise that otherworldly God from her."

Dialogue (BB): Oh, well look what the cat dragged in... From the moon. Honestly, this summoning system doesn't make any sense. What does BB stand for, anyway?

Dialogue (Summer BB): Pfft.

Dialogue (Mash): What a reliable looking eggplant.
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>>4721623
>"动态网自由门 天安門 天安门 法輪功 李洪志 Free Tibet 六四天安門事件 The Tiananmen Square protests of 1989 天安門大屠殺 The Tiananmen Square Massacre 反右派鬥爭 The Anti-Rightist Struggle 大躍進政策 The Great Leap Forward...
QM you fool, are you trying to get us all banned?!
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>>4721634
We really should have expected that. Well played sir. Well played.
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aye its back

>>4721616
Rin and Sakura aren't twins

>>4721625
>She's pretty certain that she sees him blow a kiss towards Medea
Saver Shinji is much more confident and flirty, this is the window into the future
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>>4721631
Suprised their wasn't a, "by the way do you know who your parents are?" line for the Ritsuka = Emiya and Rin's kid meme. Other than that very good.
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>>4721639
Not everyone here's from chink land, anon.
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>>4721634
>Dialogue (Kama, Parvati): *Barely restrained anger*
aw
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>>4721616
There is a way to up the stakes, anon.
>>4721634
No Merlin?
>>4721639
Despite the popular belief it never worked.
You will have better luck blocking russians out of specific sites or social platforms by posting whirlwind of friendship or other banned material and repotring in to Roskomnadzor.
It also works with turks.
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>>4721625
>She's pretty certain that she sees him blow a kiss towards Medea. Even stranger though, is the fact that the normally romantically unflappable Medea blushes at the display for some reason. Huh?!
Casterwife! Casterwife!

>What does BB stand for, anyway?
Doesn't it stand for Big Boobs?
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>>4721639
>Imagine seething over Sphere of Influence and Japanese occupation, and using it to justify living under an backwards regime. Who censors Winnie the Pooh
>When at the same time, your own isolationist approach was the cause of that in the first place, only to go back to said isolationist ideology by alienating everyone who isn't Russia or NK.
The absolute state of the CCP, and this is all not counting the wigger and covid thing. Tamamo and Karna should do something about that part of Asia after the grail war.
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>>4721650
No Merlin.
This was by choice.
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>>4721655
no lines for Muramasa or Ishtar either?
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>>4721648
Honestly, I don't understand how people tolerate pseudoservants in-universe. They're horrifying in general, not only when they're possessing someone as close as our sisterwife.

>>4721653
Alex might have something to say too. He wanted to reach the ocean.
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>>4721651
>Doesn't it stand for Big Boobs?
No it stands for BASIC BITCH.
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>>4721655
it's better this way

also
no reaction to eresh or ishtar? or gil?
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These are great, thank you OP!
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>>4721661
they're strangers from the POV of everyone involved, also pseudoservants aren't perfect possessions, Ishtar becomes a useless goddess when she possesses Rin and Muramasa has feelings for Saber
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>>4721661
I mean the same could be said for a human fully taking over a servant. The human has a heroic spirit's soul trapped inside of their body, the human can do whatever they want while the soul is kind of stuck watching everything with no input. Its fucked for either party who is not in control.
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>>4721670
just fucking realized that Saver Shinji is a fucking pseudo servant
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>>4721659
Those would really fall under (Most Pseudo Servants), but...

Dialogue (Ishtar, Ereshkigal): "Hey, Rin! Blink twice if you want your Kaleidostick to get you out of this mess. No but really, get out of my friend, now.."

Dialogue (Muramasa): "You're never going to create the perfect sword with a stolen forge."

Dialogue (Sitonai): *Teeth grinding*
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>>4721667
Strangers yes, but they're still using people as meat-puppets. That's objectionable in itself.

>>4721670
Yes, certainly.

Though on second thought, Magi are all terrible people. It should be no wonder they see nothing horrible in this.
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>>4721672
You're a special case. You've only got one soul, and you joined perfectly with Shinji at the time.
Taiga Dojo Shinji is just sore loser canon Shinji.
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>>4721675
>Strangers yes,
Strangers to everyone except EMIYA, you mean.
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>>4721678
True, I hadn't even thought of that. Does he even get any lines in F:GO like those of Saver Shinji?
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>>4721686
EMIYA kind of just goes along with it, the dude literally has RB or some other noble phatasm he could trace that could free the psuedos. I'm surprised he isn't a little bit more pissed about it.
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>>4721686
kinda but not really

https://fategrandorder.fandom.com/wiki/Sub:EMIYA/Dialogue
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>>4721686
His reaction to Rin being possessed is literally "Haha, unlucky Rin."
His reaction to Taiga being possessed by Jaguar Man is "Somebody is eating a lot of food."
It's kind of a joke.
You'd think of all people, he'd want to save Taiga from being possesed even more than Rin.
He doesn't even have a line about Sitonai.
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>>4721673
sitonai is flat out just UBW illya.
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>>4721694
Interestingly enough, Demiya has a line with Jaguar Man where he implies he killed Taiga and her child
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>>4721584
>Take The Pass
WELL. WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE TAKE IT? WE SKIPPED RIGHT TO CHALDEA?! WAS THIS A NON-JOKE UPDATE??
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>>4721700
Yes "For now."
I don't know about you, but having something nesting in my head that could permanently take control of my actions whenever they wanted without me having a say in it is pretty shitty.
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>>4721704
I was writing that last update as votes came in, anon.
Hold your horses, bucko.
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>>4721707
in sitonai case they are all in control at the same time, this is why she flip flops in refering to herself as illya or sitonai.
in ishtar and eresh case one melted into another.
no idea about muaramasa
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>>4721704
Shinji blacked out after Alaya found out about the harem pool party and seethed. She made Shinji go to her inner world for a one on one "mana transfer session" as punishment.
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>>4721673
Dialogue (Waver): "Hah! Looks like not even death can free you from work my dear friend."
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>>4721707
they can give up control too, Waver and Kirei have full control of their autonomy and keep the servant stats and abilities, being influenced somewhat like how Kirei has a soft spot for the Romanov family cause of Rasputin
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>>4721688
>>4721689
>>4721694
Damn, EMIYA's a dick.

>>4721708
And here I thought the vote was an April Fool's blueballing.
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>>4721709
Muramasa is firmly in the driver's seat with Shirou barely popping up, only influence some of his feelings for familiar people
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>>4721710
Yeah this is probably what happened

>>4721708
Apologies. I was just a bit...surprised that we skipped straight ahead.
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>>4721710
Based
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>>4721709
You don't get it, anon.
A human personality, no matter how strong, will always lose to that of a god's personality.
Rin's personality being 'melted' into something that massively overwhelms her is terrifying.
Sitonai is extreme schizophrenia at best, and is still bad even if you consider that the worst of it.
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>>4721710
and that's how Type Earth was born
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>>4721720
i dont find it that bad, but i guess it depends of your point of view.
in illya case its not like she was even alive if her memories are correct.
in other words, i dont really care, its better than nothing.
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>>4721723
Hi, Acht.
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>>4721723
Actually, unless there's some multiverse stuff at play, Kirei is dead in FGO, he died in the HGW in that timeline
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>>4721725
well thats rude.
i just think differently than you and don't find it that bad.
i would not mind it happening to me, would be a fun ride.
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>>4721728
Pick a god, anon.
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>>4721728
Sure, you can have Angra Mainyu.
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>>4721731
i prefer to roll the gacha
>>4721732
very hard to get him on the gacha.
trust me, i'm been trying for years.
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>>4721732
I'd like to see yandere Dark Sakura. If only she could keep her sanity.
It's a cool aesthetic.
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>>4721739
She'd eat every girl that looks in our direction. She'd even eat Shirou just in case there's anything gay going on there. THE END.
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>>4721739
Its a very damn hot aesthetic.
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>>4721739
Peak Magus Sakura has the aesthetic sorta
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>>4721739
Just write-in asking Sakura to cosplay.
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>>4721747
That's not true!
She'd eat every girl who looked in your direction and every girl tangentially related to them, with the exception of maybe Rider.
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>>4721762
TO be fair, that would make the harem problem a lot easier.
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>>4721762
So... she is okay with Shiroufags? If that's the case... wow, didn't think Dark Sakura of all people is a fujoshi.
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>>4721762
Even Manaka?
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>>4721766
She'd also probably decide to keep you inside her forever at some point, so... probably not.
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>>4721771
It's someone's fetish i'm sure.
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>>4721771
In a fun way or not?
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>>4721762
How does she have any time for Shinji when she's busy hunting down an exponentially increasing amount of women?
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>>4721775
Define 'fun'.
She'd be having fun.
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>>4721771
Ever see that doujin of what happens after Femme Fatale with the cock tentacles?
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>>4721777
She simply has to manifest the Sea of Life, then the problem takes care of itself.
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What a shame evil transformations are evil.
I like it when character learn to control them until they can use them with no mental drawbacks.
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>>4721739
Would be funny if she turned dark and jumped Shinji until he put 3 kids in her right, haha...
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>>4721788
I thought that was a already the plan, except she becomes octo-mom because of Tiamat's fertility boosting her reproductive capabilities. Her boobs and ass would inflate to Tiamat's size too.
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>>4721783
But what if one of other girls is another Dark Sakura?
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>>4721798
The laws of nature tell us that the bigger Dark Sakura should emerge victorious.
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>>4721803
Huh. So it is Sakura eats Sakura world.
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>>4721771
She'll love us even if we break.
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>>4721811
lewd belly, big booba, big ass hours.
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>>4721811
Very educated
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>>4721811
i really want to fuck her
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>>4721819
So do I anon. So do I.
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>>4721824
>>4721813
i sometimes forget that Sakura is actually extremely hot
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>>4721826
Shame that it took summoning a magical White Girl from hundreds of years ago who believes she is a man for Shirou to awaken sexually, and he didn't even notice Sakura until said White Girl became a hot topic ethot and Rin being too standoffish to get into a relationship with.
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>>4721829
Nice girls always finish last.
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>>4721826
That's not something you should forget anon.
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>>4721837
imouto lenses and the fact that she dresses conservatively throw me off
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>>4721839
But conservative dresses are the best.
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>>4721847
Her outfit at the end of the HF movie was cute too, while she was shopping for groceries and making food in the kitchen it was all so wifey tier.
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>>4721858
I most certainly agree, but then again I find all her outfits cute. And she'd definitely make a great wife and mother.

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>>4721623
Hello Based department?
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>>4721879
gonna need Mordred to open up marriage laws eventually
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>>4721891
Yep. At least she won't have any problem with it, she has two mothers who were also sisters.
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>>4721898
And if luck wills it she will not be only wife but also daugtherwife.
And Saber will not only be our father figture but the same time be our brother(actually sister)-in-law. And our wife Morgan will be our mother-in-law as well.
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>>4721906
Man, kids learning about the New British Empire's royal family tree will fucking hate us.
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>>4721910
Do not forget that this also makes Shirou not only our brother but also our father too.
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>>4721914
And he is also our first daughter's godfather. The tests will be brutal.
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>>4721906
>And our wife Morgan will be our mother-in-law as well
We going for her too? Damn, sure, why not man? we're already gambling with two sisters, why not some Oyakodon
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>>4721914
>>4721910
>>4721906
At least we'll keep the spirit of the British royal family by having a convoluted family tree like how Alítheia has two mothers and one father and how her step grandfather is also her uncle and godfather
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>>4721916
>>4721920
Thats just one generation.
And a lot of our kids will be non-bloodrelated to each other.
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>>4721926
Another reason to marry Sakura. We're establishing a whole new tradition here people!
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>>4721926
some real "do as i say not as i do" type shit your expecting as we plan to openly marry our sister
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"Oh thank God, please give me that ticket, Gilgamesh." You reach out a hand, half expecting Gilgamesh to grab away your salvation at the last minute, just to be a jerk, but surprisingly, he actually does hand it over. How generous of him! Guess he must be in a good mood today, considering it's Valentines and all. With the ticket in hand, you smirk at Shirou and Shiki. You didn't need Shiki's help after all!

"Enjoy, Outsider! Fuhahahahaha!" Gilgamesh laughs to himself happily as he walks back through the portal. A... very good mood indeed. Well, you aren't one to doubt Gilgamesh's generosity, he's not the type of guy who would give somebody something simply to cause them misfortune. He's much too proud to use his treasury like some cursed magical item store. That's the one thing you can really rely on Gilgamesh for. His pride. He'd never do something like lie to somebody or attempt misdirection or trickery unless he absolutely had to. That's just the sort of guy that he is, at least when he's in a good mood.

"Ha! See this? I'm going on a swimsuit date with a dozen women!" You have a tremendous smirk on your face as you look at the horrifyingly complicated plan written up on white board. "I'm not going to need this anymore! I'm... I'm going to live!" You gleefully walk out of the building with the ticket

"Good luck, Shinji!" Shirou yells out after you, and you think that you can hear Shiki laughing again. God, that guy can act like such an asshole when he wants to be, then again, this is the same guy who thinks that 'threaten rape' is a decent way to get a girl to cooperate with him, so maybe you should've expected something like this from him, especially when it comes to asking him for women advice. Even so he was still your best bet to ask. Honestly, who else could you ask? EMIYA? Ha, fat chance Mr. Miserable would be able to give decent dating advice. SHIKI? You can't even find him half the time. Gilgamesh? He'd probably just tell you to take what you wanted and ask nobody for permission. Cu? His default approach to romance is sexual harassment, definitely not. You suppose you could've asked Alcides? He might've been able to give you some advice, but then again, being reminded of his own relationships might... remind him of his own relationships, and what the gods did to them. He's out too, then. Wow, you... really don't know many people who could give any sort of decent guidance on stuff like this. Waver is definitely a no. Same for Kiritsugu, you don't really think a teddy bear would be able to give you the guidance you're looking for anyway.
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You start rapidly texting all the girls, you finally managed to get them all to agree to carry a mobile phone, even Rin. Somehow. Archer had to spend a hell of a long time explaining it to her, and that it didn't contain a miniature demon that was going to try to swallow her soul whenever she used it. Magi are still terrible with technology, and nothing is going to change that. Of course, despite being terrible with tech, there are certain groups of magi that seem to specialize in nothing but tech. You don't know how that's supposed to work, but whatever, it just does, you guess. You don't care.

About an hour later, you finally arrive at the swimming resort, it's an incredible building, and probably cost millions and millions of dollars to actually build. You arrive first, waiting for everyone else to show up as you sit by the side of a pool wearing your swim trunks. While you hadn't... specifically mentioned that you were going to be bringing anyone else along in your texts to all the girls, you didn't mention that you weren't inviting anybody else, right? Yeah... This... This can still work. Just... Just a normal swim date. On Valentine's day. This is the sort of thing that everyone would've ended up crashing anyway if they managed to find about it, and... Damn it! You could've set things up to happen like that!

It doesn't take long for the first arrival to show up, and rather predictably, it's Sakura who shows up first out of everyone, in a white and red swimsuit, and a good five minutes before you mentioned anybody should arrive. Looks like she didn't want to be late. You can respect that. You stand up to greet the girl, and she quickly starts to run over to you. "Hey, Sakura! Le- URK" You don't get to finish your statement as the girl barrels into you, and basically tackles you into the pool.

"Happy Valentine's day, Onii-chan!" The girl wraps you in a tight hug ever as you both fly through the air, before you land in the pool behind you, crashing into the surface of the water. You... weren't expecting her to be this... forceful, you've got to say. Guess she must've just gotten excited. Not more than a few seconds after Sakura has pitched you into pool, you feel a firm but soft hand snake around your shoulders, swiftly pulling you apart from Sakura with incredible force and speed. Who?!

Your eyes adapt to the water, and you can see the confident smile of Mordred as she carries you to the other side of the pool, Sakura's swimming skills are no match for Mordred's, so she leaves her in her dust, or well, bubbles in this case. Mordred's swimming outfit is black and red, and you honestly have no idea when she even arrived! Was she... lurking in the swimming pool?! Then did she arrive before you did?!
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Mordred comes up for air with you still in her arms. "Ah, Advisor, I see that you were followed here, being followed by my enemies for a secret rendezvous is no good... You need to be more careful." The girl pouts, and lets you go for just a few moments, but the moment that she does, the current rapidly pulls you away from her with incredible speed! "Oi! Advisor! Where are you going!"

"I don't know?!" You're carried across the huge inside pool by the current, until you bump against the side of the pool, and two fluffy tails wrap around your legs, hoisting you out of the water upside down, allowing you to see Tamamo staring at you with a mischievous smile on her face. Her swimsuit is orange and blue, and it really does accentuate her figure...

"Ah, Husband, we are finally alone, now, I can- Nngh!" Tamamo suddenly seizes up, as if paralyzed by something.

"Don't get carried away, Second Caster!" Medea reveals her presence from behind Tamamo, as if emerging from the shadows as she dismisses a spell of invisibility, she's wearing a blue bikini. "Now, Master, it's about time I took us maybe somewhere a little more private, hmm?" Medea materializes her staff, raises it into the air, and... the staff disappears. As if something with incredible speed has managed to snatch it away.

"You were the one getting carried away, Servant!" Out of nowhere emerges Arcueid in a white swimsuit, spinning around Medea's staff with deft skill. Wait a second, that staff looks... really familiar when Arcueid is holding it. Oh no. "Now, behold the power of Phantasmoon! Disappear, Trofa!" Arcueid butchers the pronunciation of the teleport spell, sending Medea off to places unknown. Wait a minute, she can use High Speed Divine Words!? "Now, it's just me and you, Shi-" Her eyes suddenly widen as she uses the staff in her hands to deflect an attack from an incoming enemy made with a huge red blade. A twin-tailed girl in a red bikini, but strangely, also a cat tail and cat ears.

"Oh? Not bad, Phantasmoon, your skills with that staff are great enough to even deflect the power of the Kaleidosword? Perhaps I underestimated you! to match the parallel universe oscillatory abilities of the Kaleidosword on the first clash!" What the hell.

"Shinji, stay by my side it's an enemy magical girl!" No, you're actually already out of here. You dive back into the relative safety of the pool, and hope that the madness you've willingly thrown yourself into can't reach you there. Though as you dive at the bottom of the pool, your eyes widen immediately when you see the threat hiding in the depths. A girl with two horns and a hungry expression swimming directly towards you. Oh no. You can't out-swim Shuten! Wait, do you even really want to? As you ponder that question, a large rune appears underneath the oni, and blows her high into the air and out of the pool, to land somewhere else in the large building.
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"Wakame-kun, you're in quite a mess today, aren't you?" T-Touko?! And she's... even wearing a swimsuit?! It's actually quite a bit frillier than you thought she'd have a preference for. You guess that everyone has their own hidden preferences, huh? "Don't worry though, I'll make sure to protect you from all these women trying to take advantage of you." Touko holds you close to herself, wait a minute!? Aren't you one of those people, Shishou?!

"Now, Giselle!" Suddenly a white haired woman wearing a dark purple swimsuit bursts from the water and forcible grapples you, putting you in a princess-carry before Touko can even react properly. "Yes! Direct hit! Massive success!" Illya is cheering Giselle on from the sidelines. "Now Giselle, bring him to me!" You can see the girl wearing her pink swimsuit getting further and further away. "G-Giselle!? That's an order!" The homunculus girl ignores her as she runs through the swimming center with you in her arms, at this point, you've realized that struggling is pointless, and are just going with the flow, so to speak. Almost limp in Giselle's arms.

Then you hear the jangling of chains, and you predict what's about to happen as you feel the cold metal suddenly wrap around you, and hoist you out of Giselle's arms and into the air, Medusa reveals herself to you, and this is the second time that a girl has dangled you upside down in front of her today. She softly caresses the side of your face with one hand, before suddenly, something flashes past you, cutting the chain holding you and catching you in a gentle hold. Swiftly setting you down on the floor, is Satsuki, who beams a smile at you as you stare at her in bewilderment. Well, at least she's not trying to carry you off anywhere. You have a moment to catch your breath and appreciate Satsuki's cute yellow swimsuit before a blue blur comes out of nowhere, and a fully reinforced Ciel wearing a black swimsuit grabs you and forces you to rejoin this madness of being passed from one woman to the next, yet snatched away before you even do so much as maybe kiss one of the girls.

This process continues for hours and hours, your pain doesn't end for almost seven hours, as you basically get to experience the unique experience of beach volleyball, except you're both the ball and the grand prize. The day finally ends with everyone getting bored and going home, leaving you laying battered and broken on the floor of the swimming center, with each any every one of the girls standing over you, smiling.
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"Please no more." You plead with the women looming over you, begging them for their mercy. With any luck one of them will take pity on you.

"Oh, don't worry, after all that fighting, we actually came to an agreement." Sakura has a smile on her face.

"You... did?" Sakura doesn't respond to you, and the girls looming over you instead just get closer. "Wait, wait... what are you doing?!" The women actually start to smother you. "Wait... Wait! Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!"
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I'm going to let you guys draw your own conclusions as to that ending.
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By marrying Illya we will make Kiritsugu our father and will be another form of brother to Shirou and step brother to all new homonculi.
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>>4721966
>This process continues for hours and hours, your pain doesn't end for almost seven hours, as you basically get to experience the unique experience of beach volleyball, except you're both the ball and the grand prize
this must be the prelude to Shinjibowl
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we should've stuck to the plan, we could've at least dragged Shiki and Shirou down with us
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>>4721986
Why would they have been dragged down with you?
Because they helped you when you asked for help?
Besides, I'm sure that depending on your outlook, you could count this ending as a win.
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>>4721968
Alright, we can wrap this up. This was your masterpiece. Can't top it, WhatIs.

>>4721976
I choose to believe it all worked out in the end, and we're literally fucked instead of metaphorically.

>>4721986
I will be disappointed if WhatIs doesn't also show us the other option at some point, in the finest tradition of Carnival Phantasm. And speaking of Shiki A) We need to punch him when we see him again and B) Poor Akiha, just as all competition was eliminated, a new challenger appeared. Aoko finally made her move.
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>>4721968
Magnifique, Shinji's pelvis was no longer the same after that day
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>>4721997
just need someone to throw under the bus for the worst case scenario. I choose to believe that this was a GOOD END however

>>4722003
maids are still there too
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>>4721976
All the girls drain Shinji’s magical energy reserves ;)

.....so much so that it goes negative. He’s out for pretty much a whole day. Though on the bright side he’s now dealt with the Shinjibowl....though he was the loser of said bowl in the end.
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>>4722011
>>4722006
he can no longer be a bride
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>>4722013
Yeah....
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>>4721968
Heh, great stuff. I wonder if Alaya was watching the whole thing happen. Will there be moar?
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>>4721976
>ぱふぱふ
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>>4722011
>Ball draining sex with 13 beautiful women that leaves you out for a day
You seriously count this as LOSING?
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>>4722019
Shinji still has a human body for now
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>>4721976
Everyone got sucked into Sakura's belly and got equally as smothered by dick tentacles. GOOD END
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Only missing a cutaway of the guys sitting around a table while Karna grills with his eyebeams watching this absolute mess unfold.
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My main take away from this is that Sakura is the main heroine
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>>4722022
Yeah thats why its counted as a loss. Were Shinji ~~not human~~ a eroge protagonist. This would be a win, and he would probably be way less drained.
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"Betty, Abby, I'm going to need the two of you to head to the store together real quick. I need the two of you to get me the ingredients to bake a cake, do you think you can do that?" It isn't often that Father gives either Abby or myself an errand to go on, and... the ingredients to buy a cake? Ha! That's simple! You just need... Eggs... Sugar... Water... and Flour, right? Or... did you need butter and milk too? Oh! And chocolate too! And Maple Syrup! "Girls... Here's a list, just get everything on this list, alright?" Father's voice is always so kind. You're really glad you managed to meet him. There's not one person you trust more than him. He'll go up against the universe itself for you, he proved that to you. You smile at him, and he smiles back. "Here's twenty thousand yen." He hands you a note of money too, which you quickly put in a pocket.

"OK, father!" You look at the list he gave you. His neat handwriting is very clear, and you try to commit everything on the list to memory.

One pack butter - unsalted
One pack caster sugar
Carton of eggs
One pack self-raising flour
Tub of baking powder
Bottle of vanilla extract.


Ha! Simple! "Come on Abby, Let's go!" You're feeling especially confident about this, you're going to make him proud of you! And... Abby too, of course. It's strange, despite her being the older one, Abby was... never the smarter of the two of you, even with a difference of years. Honestly though, it seems like being summoned as a Servant has at least in some small way increased your mental abilities, if you had to wager a guess, you'd say it was probably all the information that was given to you when you were summoned. That was worth more than a formal education could ever give somebody, honestly. Still, despite this reserve of knowledge you hold, you don't really think you're all that much more intelligent than an average thirteen year old.

You take your cousin by the hand as you lead her out of the house, and out of Father's mansion. He's really a very rich man, Father. You don't really like to ask him for much though, even though you sometimes see things you really want, you don't want to be a burden on him. After all, he was nice enough to adopt you and Abby, so you really don't want to burden him any more than you already are. You briefly consider going to find Alítheia to see if she wants to come too, but the mansion is really big, and it would take too long if she wasn't playing outside already... Oh well.

You skip out of the gates to the roads outside the mansion alongside Abby, who has been quieter than she usually is recently. She's probably just still adapting to modern life, but that's fine. You'll be by your cousin's side no matter how long it takes her to properly adapt to this strange new modern world.
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You end up walking through the streets of Fuyuki with Abby, and around halfway to the shop, a car pulls up and stops by your side, and a man winds his window down. "Excuse me, girls but... do you know where your parents are?" The man is wearing sunglasses, and he looks shady. You don't like him.

"Oh, Father sent me and my cousin to go and buy some groceries for him!" You explain to the man. "Oh, but we don't need help, so please leave us alone." You then tell him to leave you alone, just like Father taught you! He's going to be so proud of you when you tell him that you remembered his lesson!

"Look, I can't just leave two pretty little girls like you two just walking around, I'm sorry but I'm going to have to insi-" The man suddenly chokes on his own words. You activate your Mystic Eyes on the man, just like Father told you! When somebody tries to take you away after you tell him to leave you alone, use your eyes on him to get rid of him! "W-wha-" The man chokes out his last sound as the car he's driving compresses around him at the same time he does, and the entire car is rapidly compressed into a dense basketball-sized object, oozing with red liquid.

"I... Is he going to be OK, Betty?" Abby looks at the shiny red metal orb. Clearly shocked at the amount of force you just brought about on the otherwise normal man. But it's OK. Father said scum doesn't get to live, and that anyone like that is scum and not human, and he's always right!

"I doubt it, Abby. Don't worry, Father told me that people like him were nameless irrelevant scum, and that I should feel better about myself if I ever did something like that!" You beam a smile at your cousin, and she gives a weak smile in response to your own.

"I... Guess that sounds right." Abby doesn't argue, she must understand that you're right. Your cousin is clearly just a little bit disturbed about what she just saw, but you haven't the faintest idea why. It's not like you just killed a human. So there's not a problem, right? Killing people is wrong.

Then a dreadful realization comes over you "Oh no! I dropped the list!" Oh no! What did Father want you to get him? You rack your brain trying to remember. Come on, Betty! What did Father want you to get!?
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Some time later, Betty and Abby finally return, Betty is proudly carrying a bag. Of course, you didn't actually need them to get the ingredients on the list that you gave them, you were just testing the girls when it came to how much they had managed to adapt to the modern world.

"Father!" The two girls speak in unison.

"We got... what you wanted!" There's a brief pause as Betty takes a step forwards to set the items on a counter. And you quickly begin to go through the bag. One bag of self-raising flour. A carton of eggs. A pack of caster sugar... Another carton of eggs. Chocolate, and a bottle of cola. Eh, it's better than you were expecting. They must've lost the list.

"Good job, girls!" You pat both of the girls on the head. "This is exactly what I needed!" Honestly, something you feel like you might spoil the girls too much. Ah well. You sweep the two of them into a brief hug. You're glad they are still both such innocent girls.
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Cute
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Discord Groomers worst nightmare.
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>>4722071
>Sending our step-daughters out on dangerous errands while our biological daughter lazes around in the mansion.
Goddamn, we're almost Cinderella's evil stepmother.

At least we're raising them right and giving them the proper life lessons. No creep will ever harm them!
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>>4722081
To be fair, neither of them can solve their problems by turning into a mansion sized dragon.
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>>4722069
>Your cousin is clearly just a little bit disturbed about what she just saw, but you haven't the faintest idea why. It's not like you just killed a human. So there's not a problem, right? Killing people is wrong.
I see we've instilled our "Npc's arent people" viewpoint into our daughter. Nice.
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>>4722082
>a mansion sized drago
Aww, she's so smol and cute.

But she'd better start helping out her sisters.
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the sheer whiplash from getting gangbanged by a group of women that are almost all physically stronger than us to seeing our daughters doing cute things to seeing them murder a discord mod to going back to our daughters doing cute things
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>>4722088
>Implying that our daughters imploding a discord mod is not a cute thing.
Why, anon?
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>>4722088
Are you enjoying Paradox Carnival, anon?
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>>4722069
GROOMER Sphere Mode. Very blessed content today WhatIs.
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>>4722092
I'm laughing my ass off.

And I see a tie for 5th place. How's this gonna work?
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>>4722092
I am enjoying myself a lot yes
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>>4722095
It has to be both of course.
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>>4722092
>>4722095
Very good Paradox Reincarnated OVA episode WhatIs. I wonder if this OVA is what happens when Alan gets food poisoning and reality distorts to this.
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>>4722095
I had just started writing for Phantasmoon, but then I noticed than Shinji's worst day took over.
I'll try to do them both.
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>>4722092
btw, after Paradox Carnival, can you make a best girl strawpoll? I think its time to see who's the favorite at the moment
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>>4722103
>I'll try to do them both.
Best QM! Best QM!
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>>4722095
Dice roll perhaps?

>>4722071
Awww this was cute.....please make something similar to this happen in canon after we save the universe
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>>4721631
This is honestly how the whole quest should sound like. Great job
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>>4722119
We keep picking Lawful/Chaotic Good options rather than Chaotic Smug
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>>4722122
At the very least, we need a proper Shinji rant when we secure the Grail.
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>>4722126
Shinji needs to call someone, preferrably an enemy a nigger or a faggot or a combination of both. Then when the enemy is mad at losing we tell them, seethe or dilate or both. Paradox Shinji should have some more 4chan anon dialogues.
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>>4722128
I very much appreciated the winnie the poo moment. But it's probably best when used sparingly.

When someone is seething in the future about "how did you x my unbeatable y" just hit em with the sneed explanation or a seethe, cope, dilate trifecta.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUfquaG9tjc
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>>4722128
Nah that’s just Chan faggotry, if we meme all the time it’s just flat and boring
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>>4722162
Yeah, it would be weird to constantly blurt out what from Shinji's perspective are 24+ year old memes.
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>>4722182
My main issue is that we’d sound like some kind of fume huffing moron
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When the forces of envy and grumpiness encroach upon the land, and there is none to save the masses from the grip of demons who also happen to be the worst girl, a great shining beacon of light will appear to save them! Phantasmoon! The Magical Girl of Justice!

"Come on, Shiki! We're going to be late!" Ever since that fateful day where the unsuspecting Shiki Tohno walked in on her transforming into Phantasmoon, he's been forced to follow along with her to aid her in her battle against the evil forces of the demon Akiha!

"...Yes, Arcueid." Of course, this normally just means that she forces the poor man to carry around all her shopping for her, the life of Shiki Tohno is a hard one, but it could probably always get worse. At least Phantasmoon doesn't force him to help her face the monsters summoned up by the Demon Queen Akiha... anymore.

Suddenly an explosion rocks the city to it's core! "W-what was that?!" Arcueid manages to speak after recovering from the shock of the explosion, and she nearly leaps back in shock when she sees it! "It's... A giant demon woman!" Well, more like a girl. With a figure that looks like it should be diminutive, but at the same time towering over skyscrapers, is this humongous oni.

"Yes! That's right, puny humans! Flee before the might of the great Shuten-dōji!" The giant demon laughs. "Now, tremble as I turn your entire town into nothing but a nutrient dense smoothie!" The girl grabs her deadly gourd. She... she wouldn't actually try to melt the entire town, right?!

Arcueid gasps. "Oh no! Shuten-dōji! The famous lieutenant of the Demon Goddess Akiha! Quick, Len!" She takes the gourd and begins pouring it into a dish, but at the same time, Arcueid begins her transformation, into the invincible Phantasmoon!

"Phantasmoon!" She yells out the activation word for her transformation, but before she can even finish her transformation, somebody tries to steal the show! A laserbeam from above knocks the dish out of the giant monster girl's hand. She finishes her transformation in an annoyed silence.

"Kaleido-Ruby is on the scene and...! A girl with twin tails, cat ears and a red dress floats down from the sky, to confront the monster, and behind her is another pretty looking girl with a similar getup, early her outfit is purple, and her hair is wavy and blue.

"...So is her... faithful sidekick... Kaleido-Amethyst...-chan." The girl next to Kaleido-Ruby is obviously the prettier girl, so Phantasmoon isn't exactly sure why she has any confidence issues at all. Maybe that's just her character? To be the super shy, super pretty girl?

"See, now you're getting it, Amethyst-chan!" Ruby gives Amethyst a thumbs up, and the girl seems to cringe in embarrassment for some reason. There's no reason to be embarrassed, that entrance was amazing! It's actually almost stolen the thunder from the true main character of the show!
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Not wanting to be outdone by the two new arrivals, Phantasmoon speaks out. "Hey, you two, don't you know that you're on my turf? I thought I made this clear to you the last time that me met, Kaleido-Ruby." She has her arms at her sides as she scolds the two girls currently breaking magical girl etiquette.

"Sorry, but this demon attacked my territory first, so we've chased it all the way here! Our attacks alone won't be enough to phase it, watch!" She fires a small beam of powerful concentrated light at the oni, which doesn't even flinch from the attack! "We're going to need to go for a combined attack if we want to stop this thing from destroying the entire city!"

"Ha! I don't need any help from inferior magical girls like you! Check this out!" She starts posing as she prepares her ultimate technique! "Magic Circuit Fullcount!" She spins her wand around in her hands with great skill as she provides it with the power it will need for her signature attack. "Marble Phantasm!" She sends out a loveheart shaped projectile directly at her enemy, who doesn't even flinch despite taking it to her head! "But... Why?!"

"Weren't you listening to me, airhead? I told you that the only way to defeat this thing is if we pile our strengths together to create a super-attack!" Now, let's hit it with a combined magical beam!" The three magical girls follow Ruby's instructions, firing out beams of pure energy at the Oni to force it back. "Now, Amethyst! Use your Truth Beam!" The blue haired girl complies with the twin-tailed girl's wishes, and her energy beam becomes much thicker, as well as golden, and it starts to burn through the powerful oni, until finally, it pierces all the way through, destroying the Evil Heart Core that was being used to power the transformation! The magical girls all in unison look to see the tiny Shuten-dōji who was piloting the giant city destroying oni giantess. They should probably apprehend her, but none of them can be bothered. That sounds like boring police work.

"Wow! Kaleido-Amethyst! You're really impressive! Are you sure you want to stay as Kaleido-Ruby's magical girl apprentice? I'm sure that I could you much more about how to be a Magical Girl than this Second Rate ever could!" Phantasmoon gives the shy looking girl a happy thumbs up, but this just seems to make her even more nervy. What a truly strange girl this Amethyst is...

"What the hell did you just say?! You don't understand the first thing about magical girls! Hell you wouldn't even know how to cast a magic spell if it weren't for that wand of yours!" Kaleido-Ruby and Phantasmoon have quite a bit of history built up over the years, one stolen monster kill too many.
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"Oh yeah?! I don't need this wand to kick your ass, Miss Kaleido-Ruby!" Phantasmoon threatens her opposition in a somewhat typical manner, of course, her opponent doesn't back down despite her great intimidating presence.

"Oh, you wanna go?! I'm ready to go with you whenever you feel like getting your ass kicked! You're not a threat to me!" Kaleido-Amethyst just sits down, and watches the bickering women with interest. It's the first time the girl has shown any sort of real emotion other than embarrassment. What a strange magical girl she must be. The city is saved from the threat of the Demon Akiha, but who will save it from the threat of its own magical girls?
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And the final story of the night...

You wake up in bed, and quickly move to get dressed and... What the fuck is this? This isn't your room! Were you kidnapped? No... No, there wouldn't be a kidnapper with access to rooms this nice, not to mention there's no presence of any guards. Still, you suppose that you had probably best find out just what's going on. You aren't ruling out kidnapping though, it could've been a magus, trying to use you to unlock the secrets of the Matou.

You find some clothes that fit you and put them on. Man, at least whoever put you here has some decent taste in clothing. You walk out of the room, and immediately come face to face with Sakura, who surprises you with a hug?! "Gah! Sakura, what the f- Don't sneak up on me like that?!"

"Huh?! But... Onii-chan... I do this to you most days..." She does?! What?! No she doesn't! Also, Onii-chan?! What the hell kind of a fever dream is this?! You need to get out of this place, fast! You start to run down the stairs, only to run straight into somebody.

"Master? You seem to be in hurry, is there something wrong?" The beautiful blue haired woman stares at you with inquisitive eyes, as if she's trying to look into your very soul to figure out what's going on with you. At least the woman is polite though, referring to you as Master.

"Oh no, there's nothing wrong... uh..." You don't know her name! "Uhm... servant...?" You take a shot in the dark, and the woman frowns at you when you call her that, but doesn't take any more issue with i, and lets you pass her. Come on... Where's the door out of this place?! Finally, you manage to locate the lobby of this frankly too large house, and you start to race towards the way out, before a tugging at your sleeve stops you in your tracks. The grip is like you're being held in a vice! You turn around to see a little girl, staring up at you.

"Father...? Didn't you say you were going to cook breakfast for me and Abby today?" The little girl has a small smile on her face, yet with that inhuman grip strength of hers, there's no way that the little girl is a human!

>[X] "No way!"
>[]"Uh, of course!"

"No way! Now let me go you little brat!" The world seems to freeze around you, time slowing to a crawl as the girl looks at you with an expression that can only be called pure betrayal. You don't even know the girl, and you have to admit that her face right now makes you feel bad.

"You... You're not Father at all! You're just some monster wearing his skin!" The girl's betrayed expression shifts from one of realization, until it settles onto one of pure hatred, as her eyes start to sparkle with power. "I'll make you disappear!"

"Wait, wha-" You don't get to finish your sentence as a mysterious force suddenly takes hold on your and turns you into a ball of fleshy gore.

DEAD END
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You wake up again, and you somehow have memories of how you just died! Excellent, you... You'll be able to use these to your advantage! You head out of the room that is apparently yours after getting dressed, and you allow Sakura to hug you. You don't even get mad at the girl, or at least, you hide your anger at her so freely touching you. You soon break off from the hug and start to walk downstairs, until you wander into that blue haired woman again.

"Good morning, servant!" You try to preempt her so she doesn't try to talk to you as she walks past.

"Pardon? Master... Are you feeling OK?" The blue haired woman is clearly confused at your decision to address her as 'servant' did you do something wrong?

>[X] "Don't be stupid, I'm fine!"
>[] "Maybe a little, thanks for worrying."

"Don't be stupid, servant. I'm absolutely fine! I don't recall ever asking you to worry about me." As you utter those words, thick purple chains suddenly wrap around your arms and legs. "H-hey?! What the hell is this?!"

"Before, I was suspicious of your different magical aura, but now I'm sure. You're not my Master, but you've stolen his body..." The woman has hateful eyes as she glares directly at you. "I won't kill your body, but your soul...?" You can suddenly feel a strange sensation working up your throat, before a pink gaseous substance spills forth from your lips, and you can't even talk. "Your soul is something I don't need." You watch in horror as the substance that was your soul is absorbed into the cloak of the woman, and you feel the world around you growing darker and darker until finally a void claims you.

DEAD END
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(...)
The fist of the blonde girl slams into the side of your head, stunning you completely! Come on, you hadn't even said anything yet! You don't get to even get a word in as a second punch explodes your head. Was she really that suspicious of you from the start?! How is that fair?!

DEAD END
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The harmless looking brunette girl suddenly latches onto your throat! She's... way too strong! You try to push her off, but the apparent vampire quickly drains your body down to the last drop of blood. "Shinji-kun? Did I... go too far?" The girl asks your body, just as it collapses into dust. You can't hear her anguished scream.

DEAD END
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"Liar, fake, fraud! Give me back my Onii-chan!" You're slowly drawn inside the portal leading to a great unknown by Sakura's ribbons, and despite every attempt at convincing her to let you go, and that you made an honest mistake, the girl quickly finishes consuming you through the strange portal, and you soon find yourself in a strange world. In fact, it's a world so strange that you turn to formless magical energy which is absorbed into immediately the moment your feet touch the ground.
DEAD END
DEAD END
DEAD END
DEAD END
DEAD END

It never once occurred to Shinji, through hundreds of thousands of dead ends, to simply ask any of the girls to help him get back to his rightful world.
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>>4722202
Poor sacchin
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>>4722202
Inferior Shinji of course
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>>4722202
Nice, vore end. Inferior Shinji is inferior.
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>>4722202
This is completely deserved
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>>4722202
>Wakes up
>Gets hugged by Sakura
>Gets mad
Shinji you fucking fuck.

Damn, Mordred's instincts really are sharp.

Damn, poor Satsuki. How did you not figure out the inferior copy?

Damn, the women around us are scary.
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>>4722221
>Damn, Mordred's instincts really are sharp.
I thought that was Arcueid?
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It's pretty funny how we can speedrun FSN but Shinji never thought to ask anyone to help him

>>4722221
Shinji is a retard and all the women around us are extremely dangerous, I defer you to the pool date
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>>4722226
This blonde woman left intentionally vague

>>4722221
Even if Satsuki had figured things out, she would've been heartbroken about things anyway.

Anyway, I hope you enjoyed the Carnival Moment. We'll return to our regular scheduled updates tomorrow!
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>>4722003
As for the other option, I might start a thing where we have a Carnival Thread once a month, if that would be of interest to you guys.
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>>4722236
Yeah this was based it would be a fun monthly event
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>>4722236
Oh, and I'll still need to write a quick closer post to wrap-up this Carnival, but I'll do that tomorrow.
It shouldn't take long.
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>>4722236
I loved this and I definitely want more, but once a month might be too often. How many good ideas can there be?
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>>4722236
Based. I’d absolutely want this.

Now then suggestion for next timr:

SHINJI GETS STUCK IN AN OTOME GAME.

Pic related
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>>4722243
Why wouldn't we use the actual otome protagonist that we sold for a water park ticket?
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>>4722243
Sure, just put your suggestions in the thread everyone, I'll save them all for next time.
I had a blast writing all this today.
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>>4722236
Yes we need moar Carnival!
>>4722243
>>4722246
Ayaka and Shinji chan compete to get boys.
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>>4722249
Shinji fucks up and he's stuck as a girl all day
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>>4722243
>>4722249
Oh and Sakuro-kun and Ren-kun are romance options
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>>4722246
Technically, we gave her away for free. The water park ticket was an extra thrown in.

As for suggestions:
Girls Nght Out!
Barbecue With The Boys!
Cooking Contest!
Trading Places: Shinji's Worst Ever Day Redux! He Is Still Stuck In This Hell!
Fourth Holy Grail War (Normal Mode) Any% WR
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>>4722256
Oh fuck, 4th HGW would actually be very interesting, cause there isn't an easy path to victory, the only person we would easily be able to get through with is Uncle Kariya
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>>4722193
Demon Goddess Akiha next time.

As for future options, maybe Nyarly/Aife/BB day in the life?

Oni/Vampire night out

The male + kids sidestory to the waterpark episode.

>>4722256
These are good. $th war is probably one of the more serious what ifs though.

I reckon the Carvival might be a good place for oneshots through sideplots like the 4th war etc that can actually be briefly played through without taking the main story off the rails. Then you've got reason to hold them monthly and they might recharge you during any periods of writer's block too.
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>>4722236
isekai!Shinji and canon!Shinji are forced to hangout for the day, Shinji's love interests try to outdo each other and/or monopolize him during his birthday, Four Horsemen shenanigans
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Oh and maybe a few of the easier singularities that could be realistically speedrun.
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>>4722249
Oh, I have one or two more in addition to >>4722256
New Transfer Students! Meet The Mysterious Betty, Abby and... Alitheia?
or
A Day In The School Life Of The Three Makiri Sisters!
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Also to add to the boy's side of the waterpark, an Alaya/Nyarly/Manaka/God etc. POV
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Orochi and co. daily life too, once all of the servants have been revealed. Hammy villain team scenario
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>>4722335
Football match between our team and his!
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>>4722236
That sounds like a good way to prevent burnout and keep discussion going, and we can always just shelf it if it starts to get stale or distracting.
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Hide-And-Seek With The Girls! With Special Guest Star Illyasviel von Einzbern!
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>>4722297
Seconding
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>>4722339
Maybe throw in some of Manaka's to help him fill out the numbers
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>>4722202
>The harmless looking brunette girl suddenly latches onto your throat! She's... way too strong! You try to push her off, but the apparent vampire quickly drains your body down to the last drop of blood. "Shinji-kun? Did I... go too far?"
I like the implication that by that point Satsuki regularly greets us by piercing our carotid artery and drinking her fill.
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>>4722236
>if that would be of interest to you guys
It would be. Those were great.
>>4722249
Normal Day in life of Tiamat.
Setting morphs into typical school romcom.
Shinji forced to confess his sins to Ciel.
Other episodes of Magical Girl Shinji-chan. Battle versus Evil Magical Girl Medea, meeting with PRISMA girls, Magical Dragon Girl Alítheia.
Normal harem day but instead of all usual girls it is Manaka and Altrouge.
Movie or video game night.
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>>4722496
>Shinji forced to confess his sins to Ciel
Shinji dindu nuffin

>>4722469
I like how one wrong answer just straight up ends with murder
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>>4722527
All of the girls have good reasons to be paranoid of something like that.
Though Sacchin's is really sad, she was just saying hello to her boyfriend and lost everything in an instant.
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>>4722537
Technically it wasn't her real boyfriend so it's okay. But yeah your right, absolute no way Shinji denies Sakura anything or disrespects Betty and Medea
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>>4722540
Not to her, she didn't discover who he really was so to her she carelessly murdered the one person in the world she could depend on.
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>>4722496
>Normal harem day but instead of all usual girls it is Manaka and Altrouge.
Only to be rescued by Dark Sakura. Happy end.
>>4722527
She is catholic and he is young boy. Much made in heaven.
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>>4722379
Manakas should be umpires.
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>>4722597
Good idea, but I meant some of her Shadow servants to help pad Orochi's numbers, unless half his team is different heads extending onto the field in different numbered jerseys with the body as the goalie.
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>>4722607
I think it would be funnier if Shinji and Orochi are the managers and don't participate directly. The Servants he fired could round out his numbers.
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>>4722607
>>4722635
Team Deathmatch in Makiri Industries new AAA FPS.
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>>4722639
Business meeting between the President of Makiri Industries and the new CEO of Worms Inc!

Makiri Industries! A Magical Workplace! (With the cast as employees. Vice President Medea. Sakura the Personal Assistant. etc)
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>>4722650
Truthborne aka Shinji Souls.
WhatIs doing Forgotten impression up to coping dice mechanic for quick double isekai dark fantasy adventure!
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The Adventures of Kiritsugu Emiya, Teddy Bear!
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>>4722665
Walks in on Tamamo's evening scry session on her assumed husband
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>>4722665
Kerrybear, hero of all children from morning tv cartoon.
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Here's a poll for best character, I disabled all the location tracking garbage too so don't worry about that.
Unless there's some major reason this site is shit and I shouldn't be using it.
I couldn't use strawpoll because it's too limited, and I ran out of space to add characters. Also this site enables you to use Other to add any characters I could have missed.
Now I think I got everyone, but there are a lot of characters.
>https://www.poll-maker.com/poll3556443x78294166-107
Seeing as there are so many characters, you can vote for up to eight.
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>>4722682
Will you do briefing interlude before we return to island vacation?
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>>4722686
I'll think about it.
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>>4722687
Thanks. Ciel is going to have so much fun hearing all of it.
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>>4722682
Is Tamamo an option twice or am I seeing double?
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>>4722691
Oops, deleted one of the Tamamos
If anybody voted for her, you might have to vote again.
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>>4722695
Tamamo Nine just lost a member. Sad.
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>Playing favorites among our children
I am disappointed in you all.
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>>4722699
Alitheia is best daughter and dragon royalty.
Until we develop her Abby is Betty's side act.
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>>4722703
I can understand not picking Abby, she's technically not even our daughter yet in the main story. But Betty and Alitheia? There is no excuse.
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Medea ahead by a country mile, how can other women even compete?
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>>4722709
>ahead by a country mile
>6 votes in total
dude
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>>4722709
Probably by eating her.
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>>4722710
Her closest competition has half that.
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>>4722712
Actually I just reread WhatIs' post and saw you can vote for up to 8. I assumed it was choose one only, nvm.
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>>4722711
We have a lot girls who can do it. You have to be more specific.
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>>4722714
Shuten could drink her
I doubt Alitheia will eat her mom
Sakura might do it.
Gorgon would definitely do it.
Tiamat would do it.
BB could probably absorb her powers and spirit origin or something.
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I still think we should adopt Stheno and Euryale but marry their younger sister.
I want to make people learning about us and our family tree in the future hate our guts.
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>>4722719
Adopt, Truth age them up or both? We should have Morgan grant Medusa either Ibaraki or Tamamo's Shapeshift ability so she can freely swap between small, medium and large while her sisters are stuck on large.

Hopefully Alcides doesn't want to smash Euryale and Stheno's skulls in on sight.
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>>4722726
Ok how about this.
We make it so every time they do something mean to Medusa, they age up a year, and every time they do something really nice for Medusa they age down a year.
But obviously not going below their original age.
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>>4722733
The Pinocchio curse is actually a very good idea
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>>4722734
Smug Goddesses, meet Pavlov's Dog.
I wonder if Stheno and Euryale would get stronger if they were aged up like Medusa does?

Also we need to start working on a group of trustworthy maids. Other than the Einzbern Maids who should all love us if we figure out the lifespan problem.
We should've made ourselves a bunch of Trimmau.
Kind of want to steal Salter to use as a maid. It's a guilt free solution!
Not like we'd lock her in the rape dungeon for a few days while unaltered Saber calls us a faggot constantly like Cuckberich did.

Also I remembered the rematch with Saber.
>Instinct A
>Sweets makes her literally run straight into a trapped room instead of mana bursting the room into oblivion
Never forget that shitty rematch.
Then Jobberich got beaten up by a human magus just like Jobhime did.
Sweets also didn't know the only reason Servants were powerless against Imaginary Numbers in HF was because they were empowered by the grail itself, so nothing summoned by the grail could resist them.
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>>4722733
They might make really good Orochi bait due to Divine + princesses. Orochi was never really shown to have any kind of mental resistance so they might be able to charm him too. The Gorgon sisters are technically Titans not Gods, so maybe his Nega-Deity skill won't work?

Also Stheno has A+ Presence Concealment which would be incredible if Hero Makered onto someone with actual combat ability. Older Stheno might be a genuinely terrifying Assassin as she has absurd stealth and a near unmatched Charm.

Her NP Flavour text is very, interesting. Orochi and Zolgen are very much male so...

>The very allure of the goddess which could enslave any warrior with a single blow, sublimated as a Noble Phantasm.
>Regardless of whether one were a hardened brave or an incorruptible gentleman, as long as it is a man, he would be slayed (metaphorically) by Stheno. It is the most powerful of whispers, filled with expressions of love. Her faint melancholic gaze turning to blades, her mellifluous voice dripping with poison. And after that comes the killing blow - as though dropping all pretenses, she strikes an adorable pose. Making a heart symbol with her fingers - a perfect finish!

>Most men would fall to such an attack, though in the event one did not, she would become very cross (but do little else).

Euryale also has A+ Independent Action which could be Hero Makered onto servants to keep them around indefinitely if incarnating is a very difficult process.
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>>4722742
And Eye of the Euryale has very interesting flavour text too. I know they're not meant to have Noble Phantasms as they're not even meant to be servants but if they do happen to appear in a class container..

>It is the charm of the goddess, that captivated braves with a single attack, made form as a Noble Phantasm.

>The bow, her bewitching charm; the arrowheads, her sweet, sweet whispers. An arrow that will pierce the heart of any male, be they a human or a god. The external appearance is extremely sublime, and also cute. It is a golden bow patterned with multiple heart shapes.

>"Isn't that Cupid's..." is what her little sister started to say before meeting a terrible fate.
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>>4722742
Charming Orochi is just going to get her eaten.
Let's not get them eaten by ANOTHER snake monster please.
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>>4722745
They're used to it at least.

If Euryale can yeet her arrow across the map by borrowing Karna's Clairvoyance it might have an effect, it does specifically say it can pierce the heart of any human or god.
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>>4722747
>She marries Orochi in our grandpa's body
>We marry Medusa
Nice work, but I'm sure we can make the family tree even more convoluted
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>>4722749
Marry the Titan loli x Snake God offspring ourselves?
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>>4722743
The problem is that Zolgenorochi is seemingly just made of snakes/crest worms.
And crest worms have an Anti-Loli passive.
>>4722747
Hassan already went for the heart and did nothing.
I don't think that will do anything to him.
Not to mention he's anti-god anyway, and cheating with "oh but they are titans!" won't fly.
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>>4722751
I'm sure the greekoids would be very upset if you claimed gods = titans.

This isn't trying to destroy his heart either, it's to have him become Euryale's simp.
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>>4722738
>Cuckberich
Tbh he got laid using Pedo's Charisma skill.
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>>4722752
There was less of a difference than you might think. The Titans were simply the collective name for the previous pantheon in mythology, and they were related to the 12 gods. Zeus, Hades and Poseidon were children of Cronus, the leader of the Titans. If one's a god, the other is too.
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But assuming Gorgon is stuck that way, or can turn into it at will she'd be great in a snake Kaiju-off against Orochi, as she has essentially no Divinity left and she can keep him pinned with her body while blasting him with a point blank Cybele. I wouldn't risk trying to eat him with Pandemonium Cetus and she may end up possessed.

>>4722756
Ye ik, they're kind of like the tier above the Gods as they're a full order of Mystery higher, predating and birthing them.
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>>4722754
Yeah, with worst girl illyaclone in a scene so uncomfortable he was given a skill to forever label him a pedophile.
I wonder how long it would take Betty to SPHERE him if he met her.
Meanwhile Shinji just fucked his entire harem at a pool party.
Or rather he got fucked.
Alberich probably kept Yumigawa's microdick, which is why he only goes after lolis.
>>4722752
They have divine cores. Let's not try to rules lawyer the Nega-skill.
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>>4722759
>I wonder how long it would take Betty to SPHERE him if he met her.
A few seconds, she's a good girl.

And now I want to see Alitheia SPLAT a discord mod. And we should teach Abby to send them somewhere unpleasant, she can't always rely on her sisters for protection.
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>>4722759
So that's a no to the borrowed Clairvoyance across map simp arrow plan too then?

What about snake kaiju battles?

>>4722760
Abby could make a fresh jannie dimension to send them all, then we can use them for any kind of magical experimentation we want to try that we wouldn't ethically wish to use a regular NPC for.
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>>4722761
I'm up for a snake kaiju battle, but it's a lower priority than giving her her old body back. So, IF she can freely change between forms only.

And I approve of the "Have Abby send them to hell" plan.
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>>4722761
I genuinely doubt she can make a force of pure destruction simp for her.
Kaiju battle might work in our favor if we can get Medusa in control of Gorgon.
>>4722760
I can almost imagine Alberich meeting one of our daughters.
The stupid bastard would really get what he deserves.
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Just realized.
Seeing as Sakura has Tiamat in her stomach, shouldn't that mean she has access to Potnia Theron?
In addition to Imaginary Numbers?
Shouldn't she be able to use C.C.C. (Cursed Cutting Crater)?
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Also, we should make plans to steal Servants away from Orochi mid-battle. We can't take more ourselves, so we should speak to the other magi in our group to see who wants to be a Master, announce at the start of the battle that we have no animosity towards the Servants and we'll be good to anyone who joins, and then start applying Rule Breakers liberally.
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>>4722766
Imagine the look on BB's face if she saw that.
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>>4722766
She'd have to start unsealing Tiamat to do so, and C.C.C is very moon-celly in concept. But she could do similar, potentially stronger too as she can nullify first to prevent resistance before breaking down and rewriting the reality inside the core of the attack. She could also drown them in a localised chaos tide and just Amino Geas them to be hers to control on a subcellular level.
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>>4722767
Still yet to see if you can just fire Rule Breaker arrows and still have the same effect as a nothin personell jab. Would make it much easier
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>>4722768
I wonder who the strongest Sakura is.
>Base Sakura
>Nullifier Sakura
>Tiamat Beast Sakura
>Dark Sakura
>BB
>BB Pele
>Kingprotea
>Meltlilith
>Passionlip
>Violet
>Kazuradrop
>Kama
>Mara
>Parvati
Too many Sakuras...
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>>4722771
This is a problem only because we've been relying on Medea, the physically weakest of our allies. EMIYA and Shirou will find it much easier to just stab people with them.
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>>4722772
Violet could hypothetically Kin Eater all of them to become the strongest
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>>4722774
I mean Kazuradrop
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>>4722774
>>4722775
I think the same goes for our Sakura so it would probably be an Eat or be Eaten battle against Kazura while all the rest rapidly get vored for use as powerups.
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>>4722759
Do not forget he also wanted to be loli himself.
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>>4722777
Well technically Melt can power up by melting and absorbing the others and Violet can assimilate things into herself too.
Violet is a useless jobbing fuck despite having Za Warudo though.
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>>4722777
Also by the way hosts work for Divine pseudos because Sakura hosted Parvati, she's also over a dozen other higher end poojeet gods like Durga, Kali and Shakti. She's basically several pantheons at that point. That's a lot of vore.
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>>4722772
So the ultimate answer is a hell of a lot of universal scale autocannibalism and vorechads win overall.
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>>4722778
His *ideal form* was in truth a loli and he was both a homunculus by any other name and kissed lolis a lot.
Also his last name was von Einzbern.
Holy shit.
Guys, Alberich was Kuro!
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>>4722783
What is it with Sakura and being associated with vore?
Does Nasu have a secret vore fetish?
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>>4722786
Do you even have to ask after Heaven's Feel?
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>>4722790
Honestly I'd argue CCC was the biggest give away.
Just fuucking look at Kiara.
Passionlip literally has vore tits.
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>>4722784
Cmon. Kuro is not a jobber.
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>>4722795
Actually speaking of Kiara, we should probably find her, heal her and adopt her.
Give her something to prevent demon slut goddess Extra Kiara from eating her mind and turning her into a puppet.
It's horrible what happened to FGO Kiara. She got egodeath'd when by all accounts she was actually a good girl who never joined a cult and was a healer.
Nobody in Chaldea cares about this either. Even though she was literally an employee.
Fuck them.
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>>4722801
Not sure how the timeline lines up regarding adoption, but yes we should absolutely save her. Thank fuck Arcueid destroyed Chaldea in our timeline.
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>>4722738
You do know how you defeat somebody with limited battle precognition don't you?
You make sure your attack is either undodgeable or remains undetected longer than they can see into the future.
Imaginary Numbers is simply very effective against spirits, even the wiki states this, it has nothing to do with Sakura being influenced by Angra to super-power her element or something like that.
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>>4722831
Fuck off Sweets.
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>>4722831
>it has nothing to do with Sakura being influenced by Angra to super-power her element or something like that.
Except thats literally the only reason Sakura and the Shadow were so powerful against servants, you hack.
Also, that's still not how Instinct works.
It's supreme instincts to the point of future-sight to the point the user can take the best action in a battle.
It's why Mordred at Rank B instinct can fend off a suprise attack from Jack even in the Fog.
It's not "HURRRRRR ME RUN INTO TRAP." you subhuman baboon.
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>>4722834
I don't think that fight ended unreasonably either, am I Sweets too?
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>>4722841
It's also the only reason she was capable of killing Gil, due to exploiting this anti-servant quality she had due to being linked to the grail.
WHO WAS INCARNATED AND NOT A SPIRIT BY THE WAY.
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>>4722845
Imaginary Numbers is effective against spirits because it drains energy, which servant bodies are made of.
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>>4722849
Speaking of draining energy, whatever happened to that piece of meteorite Touko had given us to hide our magic from Zouken?
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>>4722841
>>4722845
Yeah, taking the best course in a battle, but if there's no fight in the room the skill can't activate.
Are you going to say Saber shouldn't have gotten blacked in HF because she should've realized there would be mud right under her due to instinct?
And imaginary numbers specifically targets spirits, but if used with different elements it can effect living people too.
Sakura got gilgamesh with a combo of Angras curses and imaginary numbers.

>>4722834
Everyone who doesn't decry everything in Awakening is sweets now huh?
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>>4722254
Left has an unexpectedly big cock
Right is an ass man through and through
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>>4722850
I'd imagine we still have it on us.
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The only way Saber jobbing in Awakening make sense for me is for her to still be under the effect of Manjew juice and PTSD from Fifth War.
>>4722850
I think WhatIs mentioned it is lying somewhere in our house right now.
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Also
https://www.asor.org/anetoday/2021/01/enigmatic-tablets
King of Heroes might get demoted rather soon.
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>>4722853
>Left has unexpectedly big cock
>unexpectedly
If Sakura has big boobs and ass, Sakuro has big cock and bubble butt, he is still an educated male prostitute. Ren has defenseless anus syndrome too, he is into pegging.
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>>4722851
>Are you going to say Saber shouldn't have gotten blacked in HF because she should've realized there would be mud right under her due to instinct?
Here's my opinion on that scene.
In HF, she only got captured because she was fending off the attacks of True Assassin and was obviously just a little distracted at the time to respond even if her Instincts were screaming at her to move.
Even still, the text itself reads.
>The "ominous presence" she has been feeling has covered the ground beneath her.
So despite being in the middle of an intense battle with True Assassin, her Instinct was clearly still in play and trying to warn her about the grail mud coming for her she just couldn't do anything about it.
Now, if you're trying to say that this same character would leap into a room, after these events have happened to her once before, I'm going to have to strongly disagree.
>but if there's no fight in the room the skill can't activate.
What on Earth sort of take away from Instinct is this?
This would mean it is useless against surprise attacks, which it isn't, so this is just completely wrong.

>And imaginary numbers specifically targets spirits
Imaginary Numbers are rare, but not unique to Sakura, there are multiple magi with access to it. It does not make you some sort of Servant Slaughterering Machine otherwise nobody would think Servants were impressive at all if they did and Tokiomi, who specifically wanted to win the Grail War, wouldn't have just given away a daughter that could've easily won the Grail War due to having them. There's a difference between "a spirit" like a ghost and a Heroic Spirit like a Servant. You're comparing a match to a forest fire. Sakura had an effectively infinite amount of magical energy, and from what I understand it was her connection to the grail that made her especially effective against Servants in conjunction with the general anti-spiritual nature of Imaginary Numbers.
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>>4722856
>>4722858
Once upon a time we thought it'd be make for a nice anti-Servant weapon. And then we completely forgot about it.
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>>4722876
You should probably remember to pick it up from your house if you want to use it for something. It's just carrying a powerful energy-sink isn't generally the best sort of idea for somebody who uses magical energy to accomplish basically everything.
You should probably get a special box to put it in.
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>>4722876
There's no need for it since our goal is now the incarnate and keep all of the servants summoned in this war. We don't want their souls to go into Sakura or Illya.
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>>4722875
Hey, WhatIs, I have an interesting suggestion but I am not sure if it fits within Carnival Phantasm or Interludes or not.
A scene where Medea get DEAD END but instead of death she gets her own version of Taiga Dojo with few friendly mythological greek woman who give her advices on current scene and advices on current harem situation. Something like Circe`s Consultation Cabinet.
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>>4722878
Yeah, I'll try to remember to bring it up again when we stop running around putting out fires and start discussing plans. It does require some preparation.

>>4722880
True, I've been against killing anyone too. But it shouldn't be an instakill attack, and we don't need to drain anyone until they die, just until they're too weak to resist Rule Breaker or the touch of Truth.
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Also, WhatIs, is there any particular downside to reciting the first line of our Aria every single time we manifest Truth in order to reduce its cost?
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>>4722875
The instinct skill is Saber feeling the best way through a battle, it has nothing to do with her sensory capabilities, so her sensing an ominous presence is completely divorced from whether instinct told her to immediately leave the area or get subsumed.
Instinct can defend against sneak attacks because that is clearly someone initiating a battle, so the skill is activated. Fainting from PTSD isn't something the skill covers.
She probably felt something weird, but given she was completely winning every encounter with Alberich, just decided to go into the room to finish him off, then got surprised by the ribbons, which instinct wouldn't identify as a threat due to their relative flimsiness.
Sakuras high magical reserves made the IN magic able to display its proficiency in dealing with spirits, but she still faced resistance when trying to capture Heroic Spirits even then, notably Hercules who took a bit to get blacked, and even still wasn't completely under sakuras control, she just let him loose in the forest.
Even when Alberich captured Medusa he didn't make a prison of his IN magic to keep her, because keeping up his magic for too long drained him.
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>>4722905
Honestly? Not really if you don't care about revealing to people you've been working on a Reality Marble anymore.

>>4722909
>She probably felt something weird, but given she was completely winning every encounter with Alberich, just decided to go into the room to finish him off, then got surprised by the ribbons, which instinct wouldn't identify as a threat due to their relative flimsiness.
Oh come on, what an awful awful excuse.
She's a Servant battling another Servant. Getting complacent because you have the upper hand is something that they don't do. Because Noble Phantasms exist.
The “best personal course of action” in combat, would include not running into a trap because your opponent has a wall in between the two of you. Because the fight hadn't ended, Alberich had not retreated from the battle, he had moved location to gain an advantage, thus this would mean that the battle had yet to end.
Please try to remember that at Rank A, it is possible for Saber to negate the penalties to the usage of Instinct through visual and auditory interference. That's how sharp her instincts are. She doesn't even need be able to see an attack in order to raise her sword to deflect it.
Moving 10 meters away from her and hiding in a room would not suddenly make her lose her patience and attack despite her having the belief that she was up against Angra Mainyu. So why would she forget about how she lost against the shadow the first time?
Face it, Sweets wrote Saber like she had brain damage in order to give the victory-starved players a rare win and because he wanted to corrupt Saber into Saber Alter.
>Fainting from PTSD isn't something the skill covers.
Losing isn't something Instinct would help Saber avoid?
Interesting.
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>>4722917
>Getting complacent because you have the upper hand is something that they don't do.
Unless you are Gilgamesh, and we see how that works out for him three times.
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>>4722917
Alright. I think we're long past the point of subtlety here, but it's something we should keep in mind anyway.
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>>4722917
>She forgot how she lost to the shadow before.
Alberich acted like an altered servant rather than Angra, she had no reason to believe he would grapple her the way he did given how their encounters had gone up to then, with him losing every time then retreating.
Also, she literally wasn't in her right mind since she'd just escaped from the 5th HGW, her excaliburing in the middle of Tokyo is plenty evidence that she wasn't acting the way she normally would've.
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>>4722925
>Alberich acted like an altered servant rather than Angra
This would be an argument if Alberich didn't have white hair, red eyes, and a black cloak with red stripes.
>she had no reason to believe he would grapple her the way he did given how their encounters had gone up to then, with him losing every time then retreating.
In their previous encounters, she also didn't ever give him an opportunity to do this, and she beat him soundly after the first time and for some reason didn't finish off her opponent after his Master was slain, really really weird.
>Also, she literally wasn't in her right mind since she'd just escaped from the 5th HGW, her excaliburing in the middle of Tokyo is plenty evidence that she wasn't acting the way she normally would've.
But Saber is the sort of person who would Excalibur the middle of Tokyo if she thought that was the price she had to pay to kill Angra Mainyu, it would kill a few people, but if she thought she was fighting Angra, then she would do so with a heavy heart, because it's the difference between killing a few thousand people compared to letting the entire world die.
You got any more lame excuses to share, or are you going to accept that that scene in particular was poorly written?
Sweets as an author had a bad habit of forgetting or ignoring the abilities of the characters. I still liked the story, but...
Well let's not forget what happened to Perseus, where Sweets was wrong about his Battle Continuation so it got nerfed into the floor so he could instantly be killed by being shot once in the heart.
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>>4722928
>This would be an argument if Alberich didn't have white hair, red eyes, and a black cloak with red stripes.
His appearance would've made her wary of tendrils on their initial meeting, but subsequent meetings would give her a more rounded grasp on his capabilities, and his failure to use them before capturing her makes their effectiveness perfectly reasonable to believe, especially since Servants generally can't gain new skills.
>and for some reason didn't finish off her opponent after his Master was slain
Didn't Harris want to use Alberich to cull the competition? Either he fades away and there's one less servant or he lives and kills the others.
Though that I could've just made that up, it's been a while.
>But Saber is the sort of person who would Excalibur the middle of Tokyo if she thought that was the price she had to pay to kill Angra Mainyu
But it was clearly overkill. She was dominating the fight the whole time, normally she would care about those innocents more than making a fight immediately end instead of taking a few more minutes to slice him up.
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>>4722952
>but subsequent meetings
Pretty sure that this was their second meeting, Completely unreasonable for Saber to assume that Alberich used every single trump card he had in their first battle. She hadn't used Excalibur, after all.
Rider never uses Breaker Gorgon for the entire duration of F/SN, as an example.
Cu Chulainn doesn't use his runes in his first fight with Saber either, if I recall correctly.
>Didn't Harris want to use Alberich to cull the competition? Either he fades away and there's one less servant or he lives and kills the others.
But that's stupid.
You don't just leave stray Servants alive. It would've been immensely simple for Kiritsugu to just murder Kayneth, yet he went through the whole rigmarole of the Self-Geas scroll to make sure Diarmuid was going to die as well.
Leaving Alberich alive makes Harris look like a massive retard, and was why people thought he was Odin.
>But it was clearly overkill.
Nope.
Angra possessed people have tremendous regeneration capabilities. As do Angra blackened Servants.
In Sparks Liner High, Shirou only manages to delay Saber Alter for a few minutes as she heals from multiple lethal wounds.
And Sakura regenerates from being impaled and sliced in half by GoB before Gil can walk over to her and decapitate her.
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"Eh... That's it...?" Neco-Arc watches the curtain close with a frown on her face. "Really? I was... sort of expecting this Carnival to go on a little longer than this! I demand an encore!" The tiny cat-girl isn't happy about the Carnival ending this quickly, that much is obvious. "Also... why did they hire us to do the Outro? What about the little girl and her teacher? Were they busy?"

Neco-Arc Chaos takes a draw on a cigar. "Unfortunately, we had to let the two of them go after the last time. The master of the Dojo raised too much of a fuss about not being given a bigger role last time, and they didn't have a role at all this time!" The diminutive cat person breathes out a cloud of smoke "The time for Carnival Moments is fleeting and quick, do not be sad it's gone, simply be happy that it... Hmm, what's this?" A hand passes the man a letter, though the hand doesn't actually seem to be attached to anyone. Though it is quickly snatched away by Neco-Arc before he can read it.

"Let's syee here... Due to greater budget... more time to develop... enhanced research grants... the incinyaration of the Human Order... Ah! From now on, Carnival Moments will occur once every one or two months!" She reads with a wide smile on her face.

"Un-Un-Un!!!" Bubbles is even more excited than usual at the tremendous revelation! The Carnival will go on!

"W-what?" Neco-Arc Chaos falls off of his chair in shock. "They... can't be serious?! But... what about the logical stability of the main story!"

"Yeah! Looks like we're going to be having a Forever Carnival after all!" Neco-Arc brandishes the letter in the air. It seems that it is not time for the Carnival to end properly after all. "Who cares about all that nonsense anyway? Carnival Forever!"

"Good grief." Neco-Arc Chaos quickly recovers from his surprise, gets back on his chair, and takes a draw on his cigar again. "That's all for now, folks."

Carnival End.
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>>4722959
Why wouldn't she believe Alberich would've gone all-out on their first encounter when it ended with his complete defeat and the death of his Master?
That fight gave every reason for her to believe him to have shown all his cards to her, with how desperate his situation was.
Their regeneration was due to their high amount of magical energy because of Sakura being connected to the Grail, and Saber wouldn't have believed that Alberich could fade due to a lack of magical energy if she thought he was connected to the grail like that.
Even if she was concerned about that, she could've just decapitated him after disabling him instead of nuking the area, even Sakura couldn't revive Berserker.
It was clearly an attack out of anger rather than necessity.
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>>4722960
We're definitely taking all of the neco-arcs from the cafe with us to conquer Britannia and fight against Acht post game.
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>>4722968
"Un-Un-Un!!!"
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>>4722964
Stop shitting up my thread now please.
I don't truly care about these stupid excuses for a dead Quest.

Honestly, I've half the mind to believe you actually are Sweets with how much this all seems to be bothering you.
But I imagine if Sweets were actually here he would've put his trip on to discuss his thoughts on things and maybe given some sort of an ETA about when we could expect him to actually come back and finish Awakening.
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Anyway, we now return to our regularly scheduled programming, just give me a second to actually write the update.
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>>4723010
Logo got a glow up.
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>>4723010
sick logo
What do you make these in?
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>>4723033
It really varies, but I've recently found myself fond of using GIMP 2, I sometimes use photoshop, but GIMP 2 is free, and I can't be bothered to keep paying for an image editing software.
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>>4723040
There are ways to use Photoshop without paying, you know.
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>>4723051
Why break the law when I have access to something that is imo just as good?
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>>4723040
>>4723056
Use Krita.
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>>4723056
Sure, if you think the free one is just as good there's no reason to use something else.
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>>4723056
I hate GIMP's UI with a burning passion, but you do you.
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Now that you've proven yourself to be above the magical sealing properties that Breaker Gorgon is capable of bringing about, then there's really nothing to stop you from reinforcing your body, is there? You draw out some of your magical energy, and you find yourself pleasantly surprised once again as there is no resistance as you use it so suffuse your entire body with, your legs and arms especially, but you don't ignore the physical reinforcement to your body's endurance either. You're about as powerful as a weak Servant like this, not the sort of reinforcement your body can reach when you're wielding the power of Amethyst, but nevertheless, you're pretty confident between your reinforcement and ability to manifest Truth here, you're not going to run into any difficulty. Now... There's just one more thing to do...

"Hup!" You quickly walk over to Sakura and sweep her into a princess carry. She makes a noise of surprise as she wraps her arms around your neck after recovering from the initial shock. "OK, Sakura, hold on tight, I'm going to take us through that forest! We'll take the quickest route!"

"Are you sure I won't slow you down, Onii-chan?" Sakura asks, concern in her voice, while it's true that she might be a little heavier than somebody like Betty or Illya, she's still light enough for you to not be inconvenienced by holding her like this, and especially not after reinforcing your body to the level of a weak Servant.

"Absolutely certain, we can't spend any more time than we have to in this place, every moment we spend in this place means my body outside this place uses more of my magical energy keeping the barrier around us, not to mention that if we spend too long here, we will eventually run out of oxygen, even if my magical energy holds up." That would be a terrible way to die, but a manifested barrier of truth around yourself will of course fade before such a thing would ever really become an issue for you. "Now, let's go!" You don't stick around to hear any potential response your sister might've had to going through the forests, and you begin to race through the forest at a speed equal to a car, the wind blasting against your face is kind of annoying, but your reinforcement means that it's barely an issue, for you at least. Sakura might have access to some of her powers here as well, but it looks like her body has been reduced to a normal level, so she's snuggling against your chest for warmth even as you dash through the forests at an inhuman speed.
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It doesn't take you long to reach the halfway point of the forests, and as you do, you can see a large snake that seems to be planning to block your path! Ha! Good luck with that, you dumb monster! You surge the magical energy in your legs, and leap high into the air, soaring through the air for a few moments before you land on the head of the beast. "Die!" You yell only a single command as you further reinforce your leg, and bring your foot down atop the vulnerable skull of the snake beast, feeling the crunch of it's skull as you bring your foot down atop it's head like it was a hammer. You don't hang about and wait for the monster to die off though, and before it can even rear about as a result of being dealt a hefty amount of brain damage from your attack, you're off again, leaping off of the snake and landing gracefully on the floor. Sakura is still securely in your hands as you begin to sprint once again.

Branches, snakes, and strange shadowy humanoid manifestations, you avoid them all with great ease, or if it's one directly in your path, you make sure they regret trying to obstruct your path by dealing them a fatal blow with a kick before moving on as if they were nothing. You aren't sure just what the shadowy humanoids are, but if you had to guess from one of them taking on the appearance of a man in the uniform of a police officer, you'd say that these are all the souls that have been consumed by the Gorgon, their bodies twisted into mindless monsters to patrol a dead island by the creature that consumed them. Still, they are even easier to kill than the snake was, a single reinforced kick usually doing enough damage to separate their flimsy bodies, and though it looks like they can reform from their wounds, unlike the snakes, it's not really a concern to you, as you keep moving.

Sakura is still tightly holding onto you as you carry her through this forest of madness, before the dead trees finally begin to thin out, and you find yourself presented with a choice of locations. A dark cave, the place where the Gorgon is almost certainly lurking, an area of the island that seems to have been damaged by heavy battle, the ground is scarred with great lumps of the earth having been carved out, and the trees around have almost all been felled. In more than one place there are great impact craters, as if large explosions have gone off. Of course, finally, there's a path upwards, towards the shining light. A temple of white marble that seems to have been covered in a bright pink barrier, could you even get through that barrier?

>Go to the cave, that's probably where the Gorgon is.
>Inspect the battlefield, who could have been fighting here?
>You're intrigued by the temple, what could be up there?
>Write-in...
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>>4723100
You're intrigued by the temple, what could be up there?
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>>4723100
>You're intrigued by the temple, what could be up there?
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>>4723100
>You're intrigued by the temple, what could be up there?
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Current state of the popularity poll results
>https://www.poll-maker.com/poll3556443x78294166-107
Also, I can't believe nobody picked up on the fact that Satsuki wasn't an option on the poll.
Isn't it sad?
Jokes aside, I'll add her now.

>Female Rankings (Top 5)
>Medea: 15 votes
>Sakura: 12 votes
>Mordred: 9 votes
>Arcueid: 8 votes
>Betty/Alítheia: 7 votes

>Male Ranks (Top 4)
>Shinji: 14 votes
>Nyarlathotep (I know it doesn't have a gender): 7 votes
>Shirou: 5 votes
>Enhance/EMIYA/Gilgamesh: 3 votes.
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>>4723100
The temple could be where she keeps her humanity and affection for both of us, in that case breaking barrier could mean freeing her or alternatively exposing her.
Confronting the Gorgon could give us chance to defeat her monster aspect or kill her entirely, not sure which, and whether obliterating her monstrous aspect rather than placing it under her control would be optimal either...
Going to battlefield is liable to yield clues at cost of time...

Kinda at loss desu.

>go to the cave
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>>4723115
Our evil wife reigns supreme.
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>>4723115
Based Shirou, also kinda surprised that Sakura is ranked so highly, not at all surprised by Medea though
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>>4723100
>>You're intrigued by the temple, what could be up there?
Cave seems like a BAD END waiting to happen
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>>4723115
I'm very surprised to see Mordred up there, and I am even more surprised to see Satsuki and Shuten aren't. I thought they had more support around here.

Medea and Sakura are just as expected, and it's nice to see our daughters are now equal. And I'm not even surprised we like Medea more than we like ourselves.
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>>4723100
>You're intrigued by the temple, what could be up there?
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>>4723100
>You're intrigued by the temple, what could be up there?
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>>4723100
>You're intrigued by the temple, what could be up there?
I wonder if a mental-world version of Perseus is lurking around here?
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>>4723100
>You're intrigued by the temple, what could be up there?
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>>4723121
Satsuki never really had an "arc", the popular girls did, Sakura was the goal for the first half of the quest, Mordred kinda stole the quest for a thread or two and Medea is the MVP who learned to trust us
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>>4723100
>Inspect the battlefield, who could have been fighting here?
The cave is obviously a bad idea. The temple is obviously our destination. I wonder what could have caused those explosions, and it won't take that much time.
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>>4723129
Huh? But she spends a lot of time with Arc!
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>>4723126
I hope so, Perseus is based and I don’t think we'll see him in any other capacity in this quest.
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>>4723133
It mostly helps Arc though?
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>>4723133
I like Sacchin don't get me wrong, I voted for her
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>>4723133
I miss when Arc wasn't a Saberface
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Calling in 30
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>>4723129
Satsuki's "arc", is her being a perpetual side chick.
She doesn't put herself upon us as much as the other girls and in a battle of romance the squeaky wheel gets the coconut oil.

>Medea is the current new hotness because she's always with and actively helping Shinji with her powers. She's also now, the mother of his child, thanks to those same super helpful powers.
>Sakura is next in line, not only because her safety and happiness has been a desire of the players and the protag since the start, but also because her safety and happiness is a damn necessity to avoid outright tragedy. First it was Dark Sakura, now it's Titmat.
>Mordred took over the thread as you said, and commanded Shinji's attention by appointing him as her adviser AND by summoning her Mom. Not that the later event was on purpose but it still contributed to Shinji being forced to give Mordred and Mordred related issues more attention.
>Shuten was being high maintenance, so she got a kiss.
>Medea started squeakin so we turned around and smooched her too.
If Satsuki wants that Truth D, she's gonna have to step up her game and start being more Dangerous.
At the moment she's probably the least threatening girl on our squad so she doesn't come up, both for making battle plan, and for making sure they're happy and won't cause a dead end.
This, in my opinion is WHY she's best girl, but this is a fates quest.
If your bitch doesn't straight kill you if you make the wrong move, you ain't doin it right.
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>>4723152
i miss when everyone wasn't either a Shirou or Saberface
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>>4723157
Ok when you put it like that, it's genuinely fucking funny how Sacchin went from "weird stalker girl Shiki ignores and forgets about" to "side girl and Arc's bitch"
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You set Sakura down for now. You're pretty certain that the danger has passed now that you're out in the open. You aren't about to be snuck up on now that you can see the surroundings clearly, and other than a few tufts of dying grass on the soil, the floor itself is bare, there's nowhere that something could hide here. "Come on Sakura, we're going up those steps, I want to see what's inside that temple. It looks the it's the only place that has yet to be consumed by the evil I can feel seeping through every layer of our surroundings." Likely as a result of the barrier, the temple structure, despite being mostly ruined, is not tinged by the darkness.

"Alright, let's go, Onii-chan!" You take Sakura's hand as you begin to rapidly ascend the steps up towards the temple. It's a fairly long way, but compared to the sprint you just had through the forest while holding Sakura and reinforcing your body to the highest safe level, you consider it a breath of fresh air. Speaking of reinforcement, you lower the effects of your reinforcement on your body for now. There's no use to keep yourself at your max, especially when there's no sign of danger. Not to mention that if something did appear that was fast enough to kill you before you could reactivate your reinforcement, it wouldn't make the slightest bit of difference anyway.

It takes a few minutes for you to finish ascending the steps, and Sakura is panting in exhaustion from the effort of climbing. Sakura is... not somebody who is in good shape, and it's probably partially your problem for that, you do sometimes spoil her maybe a little too much, and there's only so much that Rin forcing her to exercise with her can do. Finally though, you stand atop the hill, passing through the pink barrier with great ease. As you pass through, you spend a moment marveling at the change in your surroundings. The place that you just came from seems to have been completely restored, what was once a dead forest and a scarred battlefield is now a lush forest and a beautiful meadow, even the sky changes color! Going from a miserable dark gray to a bright happy blue. Strange... Some sort of illusionary bounded field?

Disregarding the change in your surroundings, you look back to the temple. In front of you is an archway, the doors that once adorned the building have long since broken and rotten away, and besides the archway, you see your first statue. A man with his sword drawn, and an angry expression, stuck that way for the rest of time, or until he erodes away into dust, at least. Sakura looks at the statue with a frown. "Come on, let's see what's inside, we might be able to find Medusa here."
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You creep through the archway, careful to avoid making any sound as you do, and you soon find yourself standing in a sea of statues. Each with a different pose, though all of them having the same intention. Every single one of these men was about to attack the moment they were immediately petrified. Medusa... She really didn't hang around in life, did she? You keep wandering around, weaving through the statues and the great stone pillars. Then a noise from a building that actually has a door on it startles you. The sound of a horse... whinnying? Could Pegasus be in there? You drag your attention away from the building for a moment, and you can see another building up ahead, a larger one with doors. From here, the statues seem to be a little more... colorful than normal.

>Examine the colorful statues.
>Call out, see if anyone responds.
>Go into the building you heard the horse noises coming from.
>Go into the building that is further away from you.
>Write-in...
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Anyone?
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>>4723228
Gorgon got us :)
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>>4723229
?????
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>>4723218
>Go into the building you heard the horse noises coming from.

Pegasus is good transport, but idk if our Riding skill will cut it. There's also a good chance her sisters are with Pegasus so we might get to say hi.

I wonder if Chrysaor will ever make an appearance.

>>4723228
After so much meta actual dungeon crawling is hard to think of an option, as I could give good and bad reasons to do almost anything
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>>4723218
>Examine the colorful statues.
I expect shenanigans.

>>4723228
Anyone is dead.
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>>4723218
>Use Rune Magecraft to try and detect nearby presence (Pegasus, Stheno and Euryale or some other trapped spirits)
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>>4723218
>>Go into the building you heard the horse noises coming from.
Horsey
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>>4723218
>>Examine the colorful statues.
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>>4723218
>Examine the colorful statues.
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>>4723231
Statues can't answer. But for a serious answer, see >>4723232. I can think of problems for all possible actions and I can't easily figure out what's the best of them, let alone think a good write-in.
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>>4723218
>Go into the building that is further away from you.
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>>4723218
>Go into the building you heard the horse noises coming from.
I can't figure out what we might gain by examining the statues. Going into the further building skips things that would probably be helpful. Calling out will probably be answered by her sisters. I'd like to get the horse first, even if only to help Medusa realise that Pegasus still likes her.
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>>4723218
Examine the colorful statues.
>Call out, see if anyone responds.
>Go into the building you heard the horse noises coming from
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>>4723218
>Examine the colorful statues.
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>>4723218
I hope you like this image, I had to scroll through an uncomfortable amount of uncensored H-scenes to find it.
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>>4723218
Ah screw it, hope this nets us a flier ra5he4 than a costly detour
Switching from >>4723241
to
>follow the horse sounds
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Calling in 15 minutes
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>>4723218
>Go into the building that is further away from you.
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>>4723290
You could have just used her Bond CE and avoided the molluscs.

Also, I think they may have fucked up as the descriptions for the Shapeless Isle are very different in your image from the VN and the one used in FGO.

>On the tiny island there was only the ruins of a temple and the sound of crashing waves.
There was no bountiful forest, loving animals, or flourid offerings.
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>>4723302
Hm, the VN Image always gave me the impression the place was huge. considering the actual mountains.
Guess Nasu forgot.
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>>4723218
>>Go into the building you heard the horse noises coming from.
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>Horse noise
>>4723232
>>4723237
>>4723249
>>4723295
>>4723311

>Colorful statues
>>4723233
>>4723237
>>4723238
>>4723239
>>4723264

>Rune magic
>>4723234

>Basically everything
>>4723255

>Further building
>>4723300
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Tie.
Somebody break it in 10 minutes or else.
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>>4723328
neigh. do something impossibly stupid like send Sakura to check on one of the two things
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>>4723328
+1 to hornse then
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>>4723321
+1 to the horse noises.

If we can find Pegasus, finding Medusa herself might be easier
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"I think we should check out this smaller building first, Sakura." You keep your voice quiet, not wanting to alert anybody that might be in these ruins. You doubt it's the case, but this could very well end up being the place that the Gorgon has taken to nesting in... then again, you imagine that the monstrous version of Medusa would probably have preferred the cave that leads to the bowels of the mountain, it's a far more fitting lair for one such as the Gorgon. Not to mention that if the Gorgon were in this place, then it's highly doubtful that a horse like Pegasus would also be here. The winged horse would've already fled, or it would have been eaten.

Sakura nods in silence as you creep towards the building, quietly, you open the doors and step inside... Yep, it definitely smells like a stable, though there's only a single animal within it. Looking at you with eyes that give the expression of far more intelligence than one would expect from the animal it appears to be, is a pure white winged horse. It tilts its head at you as it stares at you, before it moves to the far side of the room. Away from you and Sakura. Clearly, it doesn't trust either of the two of you.

You take a step forwards, and the horse stops backing away, and instead clacks one of its powerful hooves on the floor, cracking one of the stone tiles in a threatening manner. "Woah, easy there." You take a step back from the horse as you hold a hand out to show that you mean no harm. "I'm just... here to help your rider and both of her sisters. I'm a... friend of Medusa's." The winged horse snorts, you have no idea if it can actually understand your words or if that was a natural reaction of an animal. It taps its foot against the floor once again, but this time, there's less power behind the action, and you quickly see why.

Just above Pegasus' left front leg is a bloody gash, it must be causing the creature a great deal of pain. You look at the horse a little closer and you frown. The bloody gash isn't the only injury on the horse. One of the horse's powerful wings seems to be... bent, if ever so slightly. The wound on the wing has clearly been treated by somebody with a great deal of care, but not a great deal of skill. It will never heal as it currently is, even for a beast as powerful as Pegasus, if the wound on its wings heals incorrectly, the once proud Phantasmal Beast would be grounded for life.

>Try to soothe the creature as you approach it. Use your magic to heal all of its wounds.
>Have Sakura help as you approach the creature. It might be able to recognize her through the prior Master-Servant link she had with Medusa.
>Try to lure the horse over to you so that you can heal it.
>Just leave the room, you can't waste any more time on Pegasus. Medusa isn't here.
>Write-in...
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>>4723360
>Have Sakura help as you approach the creature. It might be able to recognize her through the prior Master-Servant link she had with Medusa.
>Use your magic to heal all of its wounds.
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>>4723360
Use sakuras maternal instincts to soothe the beast enough that you both can approach it and you can fully heal it. Or use a truth carrot.
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>>4723360

>>4723366
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>>4723360
Have Sakura call Pegasus over and reassure it while we use our magic to heal
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Calling in 30.
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>>4723360
>>Have Sakura help as you approach the creature. It might be able to recognize her through the prior Master-Servant link she had with Medusa.
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I wonder if it's the obvious option that it's one of the sisters that tried to heal Pegasus, or if there's someone else in the fun park this time?
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>>4723381
Good question. There were some craters we didn't investigate. Someone must have caused them. My working theory, admittedly on shaky grounds, is that there's a bit of split personality going on here. There's a Medusa separate from the Gorgon, getting weaker as the other gets stronger, who tried to fight the Gorgon while riding Pegasus and lost. Pegasus is the cause of the craters in the battlefield.
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>>4723390
Logic dictates that we should also be able to find the contract somewhere in here too right? Manaka may have left a jannie in here for us expecting Breaker Gorgon to capture someone. Seeing as we were already dead ended here it's safe to say Gorgon doesn't have a "do not kill" order in hers.
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>>4723360
>>4723366
Support
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>>4723366
+1
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>>4723404
I am expecting a contract as well, or something serving a similar function, but I'd be very surprised if it's anywhere but in the bottom of the Gorgon's cave. Jannie is possible, certainly, but I can't imagine who it could be that would be able to stop us if the Gorgon by herself can't. As for the "do not kill"

>"We're trapped in Medusa's mind. From what I gather, and we're going to either need to break out, or find the way out, before my magical energy on the outside world gives out and she eats us both." You do kind of doubt that any sort of contract given to her by Manaka would be truly binding to one as powerful as the Gorgon, her base instincts as the Gorgon would likely overpower any command given to her to not kill you.
Shinji's thoughts when we were first dropped here.
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>>4723428
Which means Medusa, if she exists as a separate entity in this dreamscape will be forcefully hostile or actively avoiding us. I find it odd one of her hobbies is stalking yet she has no Presence Concealment. Meanwhile Stheno has A+
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"Sakura... Try to help me beckon this horse over to us, would you?" You keep your voice steady and quiet still. You wouldn't want to spook it, after all. It might be hurt right now, but with that level of strength, this thing could still very much kill you and Sakura with a single kick each. You really don't want to rile Pegasus up. "I think it'll respond better to you, seeing as you were Medusa's Master."

"R-right." Sakura takes a step forward this time, and the horse eyes her warily, but doesn't stomp the ground. "Hello, Mr. Horse, please don't be mad that we entered your house without asking. Me and my elder brother got a little bit... lost. We're looking for our friend, Medusa." She's talking to the thing like it's a child! "I'd really appreciate it if you could... come over her and help us, I'm sure that Medusa would be really happy too!" It takes another step, before it winces in pain from its wound and stops. "Oh that's... quite a terrible wound." Sakura pretends to have only just noticed the wound on the horses leg, and she takes another step towards it. "If you let me and my Onii-chan help you, I'm sure that we'll be able to help you with it, my Onii-chan is... the best healer on the planet!" Sakura boasts about your skill to the horse, and she's... not exactly wrong. "In fact, he's... even better than the gods themselves!" Well, sure, so long as you don't need to retrieve a soul from wherever it is that they go after death, you can heal any wound, even those cursed to be completely unhealable at the highest possible level.

This comment gets the interest of the beast, and it begins to trot towards you and Sakura with speed, before it comes to a stop right in front of you. It's still eyeing you suspiciously, but it doesn't flinch away when you raise your hand to stroke it on the neck. The hair of the horse is exceptionally groomed, for as little as whoever treated his wounds knew about medicine and health in general, it's very obvious that they excelled at grooming the animal. You slowly bring your hand towards the wound of the horse, and bring about the miracle that is Truth Healing upon the wound. Watching as the blood disappears and the flesh of the horse knits itself back together, causing the wound to fully disappear without a trace that it was ever there to begin with. When the process of healing the gash is finished, you pat the neck of the horses once again, and unexpectedly, the horse nuzzles you, burying its snout into your shirt for a few seconds, before it stops and moves away, then it turns just a little to show you the injured wing. Despite not looking nearly as bad as the gash, this was easily the worse wound.
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>>4723497
I am willing to bet Medusa, if she's separate from the Gorgon, will not be hostile. I am also willing to bet, a lesser amount, that she's in that building further away, despairing and resigned to her fate. So we'll have to convince her to pick herself up and fight, and we'll have to help her defeat the Gorgon in her mind.

Also, you don't have to have an inherent talent at your hobbies to enjoy them
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"Don't worry, Pegasus. I'll heal this as well." You reassure the horse with some kind words as you raise your hand up to the damaged joint, and once again begin to heal it, the entire wing shifts a little bit as it is set back into proper position, it doesn't take that much time to heal the wound that wouldn't have normally been possible for the Pegasus to have healed naturally.

When the horse is fully healed, you take a step away from it, and allow it to stretch its wings properly. It beats them experimentally, to see if it is truly healed, before it folds away its wings once again and starts to nuzzle you quite forcefully. For some reason, it keeps going for your legs, and Sakura giggles. "Onii-chan... I think he wants you to ride him!" Really? Could Pegasus really be trying to show his gratitude by allowing you to ride him? You... don't really need convincing if the horse is really making you such an offer, and you grab hold of the back of the animal, clambering atop of it, before a massive rush of information being fed directly into your brain nearly makes you fall off the horse. The best methods to pilot practically every single animal or vehicle make themselves clear to you at the moment you were truly accepted by this horse as somebody who could ride it. It seems something very strange has happened as a result of Pegasus' decision thanks to this place being at it's core a mental world.

[Status Update!]

You don't get long to appreciate your newfound skill at Riding, having been copied over from Rider herself and applied directly to your own consciousness thanks to the will of the Pegasus, as you look up to see a small girl wearing a black and white dress and a bow matching the colors of her dress on her long purple hair. She is clearly shocked to see the presence of two new arrivals in Pegasus' stables, and looks like she might bolt and run at any moment.

>"Are you Stheno or Euryale? You look surprised to see me here, not expecting guests?"
>"Oh good, the greeter is here. I'm here to talk to the person in charge... I mean Medusa, of course."
>"I'm here to help, I need to see Medusa."
>"Take me to your sister immediately, you manipulative little goblin."
>Remain silent.
>Write-in...
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>>4723513
Are you Stheno or Euryale? You look surprised to see me here, not expecting guests?"
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>>4723513
>"Are you Stheno or Euryale?
>"I'm here to help, I need to see Medusa."
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So now we can ride our dragon daughter into battle. Our enemies are fucked.
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>>4723523
I thought we could already do that after her blessing?

And I was awfully, awfully tempted to be rude to that manipulative little goblin, but we're on the clock here. We'll have all the time in the world to tell them off after we've saved the one good sister, Medusa.
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>>4723513
>"Are you Stheno or Euryale?
>"I'm here to help, I need to see Medusa."
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>>4723513
>"Are you Stheno or Euryale? You look surprised to see me here, not expecting guests?"
Gotta say, calling her a goblin is pretty tempting.
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>>4723513
>"Are you Stheno or Euryale? You look surprised to see me here, not expecting guests?"
>"I'm here to help, I need to see Medusa."
Which one was nice to Asterios? I prefer that one.
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>>4723513

>>4723521

>>4723523
We could also ride the Orochi if we mindbroke it
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I wouldn't bully her just yet, it could be Medusa in her child state
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>>4723539
Euryale, Stheno is forever a smug cunt
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Wait a minute. She has a bow. Doesn't that mean she's Euryale?
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>>4723513
>"Are you Stheno or Euryale? You look surprised to see me here, not expecting guests?"
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>>4723533
I think it just said we can ride dragons, if we otherwise would've had the prerequisite Riding skill. Which we do now.
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>>4723554
As in, a bow in her hair.
I don't know why I didn't just call it a hairband.
A bonnet, maybe?
>>4723533
You could've done it if you had the skill, which at the time, you didn't.
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>>4723518
+1
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>>4723513
>"Are you Stheno or Euryale?
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>>4723554
Euryale has flowers on her headband in some art and later ascensions, Stheno has the plain black on white headband/bonnet thing. Stheno's hand ornaments are also thicker and Euryale wears jewellery like shin greaves where as Stheno just has very ornate sandal like jewellery up her legs. But in older art they're indistinguishable. They also often swapped clothes just to trick people.
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>>4723563
Yes, when one of them is an archer the word bow is probably best to be avoided. Goddamn English using the same word for completely unrelated concepts.

And good going, Peg! We can now ride our daughter to battle! Which... sounds awfully, awfully wrong.

>>4723570
I see. I was going off them being indistinguishable, an actual (archery) bow would have been a dead giveaway.
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i'm extremely excited to be able to ride our dragon daughter into battle
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If this is either of the two sisters, I'm immediately voting that we flick her forehead and tell her that we like taller women
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>>4723591
I will support this, but only after she leads us to Medusa. She needs to see it.
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Well, good night, everyone.
I hope you don't go too hard on the bullying with these two. They really don't know any better. Even if they absolutely do deserve it.
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>>4723591
aren't most of Shinji's love interests older than him too?
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>>4723606
That depends entirely on Medusa's current condition, and on how helpful the two little goblins will be. I am expecting some proper Shinji putdowns the moment they start misbehaving.

>>4723610
Sakura's younger, and she's the #2 candidate now. Illya looks younger, but I think all the Illyafags are gone. And Satsuki is too, but almost no one cares about her. Poor Satsuki.
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>>4723615
idk everyone was pretty adamant about wanting to save her from being a Dead Apostle, its just a shit dice roll
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>>4723615
Sakura and Satsuki are the ones I care for the most. I always go for the childhood friend, and feel bad when they get shafted so often.
Medea is great too though.
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>>4723615
We care about satsuki though there's always one anon every thread that reminds us to feed satsuki.
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>>4723620
I interpret the results as there being wide support to saving her, but not nearly as much to actually romancing her. Or maybe the Satsukifags turned into Medeafags? I would certainly not have guessed Medea being #1 if you'd asked me before the war.
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>>4723629
you should probably interpret the results about Satsuki to be incorrect.
She wasn't on the actual poll for about twelve hours.
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>>4723634
True, but if anyone wanted to vote for her during those hours, wouldn't they have noticed and said something?
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>>4723610
It's a result of growing up without a mother.
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>>4723625
>>4723628
on the bright side, that one Paradox Carnival story had Satsuki live in Shinji's castle

>>4723629
the vote is also mixed in with non love interests which also split the vote, plus Satsuki hasn't actually done anything for a while, Sakura and Medea are almost always with Shinji because Sakura is the person he's most worried about and Medea is his MVP
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>>4723636
Maybe they were too shy and submissive to bring it up?
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>>4723640
explains why Shinji was catnip for groomers, they could sense it
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>>4723606
They DO know better, and they DO deserve it.
I can't wait to patrol their antics all the time.

It'll be great when they start to realize that people have the hots for medusa FAR more than them
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>>4723641
There can't have been any vote splitting here, 8 votes are more than enough for anyone. I do agree those are the reasons for the two of them being on top. Sakura's smile has been our chief motivation for ages, and getting Medea back was like we were crippled and we can now walk again.

>>4723644
If they're too shy to bring up her not even an option, they'll be too shy to bring her up when it's actually important.
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>>4723662
>It'll be great when they start to realize that people have the hots for medusa FAR more than them
Well, that depends on whether or not they keep their uh... abilities, if you end up trying to bring them back to life.
There's a reason that Medusa ended up having to kill so many people, and she only really ended up having to become the monster she is because Stheno and Euryale had exceptional charms that turned basically any man who looked at them into kidnappers at best, and rapists at worst. So her killing humans to defend the two of them fed into her being known as a monster, which caused more men to come to slay her too, until this cycle caused Medusa to end up killing and devouring so many humans, that she started to become a monster.

Basically, in choosing to live with Medusa on the Shapeless Island so that she wouldn't have to be alone, they doomed her and themselves.
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>>4723676
At least we aren't personally in danger from that, right? Since its mental fuckery we're immune to?
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>>4723676
never once trust any non-caster with a charm skill. Also, greeks must have shit taste if they go after THOSE two
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>>4723684
Mhm.
You're free to call them little goblins, should you want.
Same goes for anyone with any variety of Charm skill, up to and including even things like Heaven's Hole.
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>>4723690
speaking of Heaven's Hole, after the HGW, gonna need to find and adopt Kiara
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>>4723690
I'm really glad that you gave us that skill.
Something like that is borderline required in any quest that features mind altering effects because absolutely nobody is going to be happy with anything that results from having their character's mind taken away.
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>>4723687
> Also, greeks must have shit taste if they go after THOSE two
Their charm skills are divine, and any normal men who look at them would probably fall in love with them as a result.
Also, you need to remember that the only rumor about them was probably "Two beautiful goddesses kept prisoner by a monster" or something along those lines.
The Shapeless Isles probably had a 0 percent survival too, so it's not like somebody would return to tell the tale.
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Now that I read it over more carefully, it just says "mental interference" is what the immunity is for.
Would it also shit on stuff like Merlin and Prelati's Illusionism?
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>>4723721
Not at their rank, unfortunately, as they are capable of tricking the environment itself.

Oh, also,
>Prelati had teachers in magecraft who reside in or near a lake,
>Merlin has Illusionism at A.
>Merlin taught Vivian, the Lady of the Lake how to use magecraft
>Prelati also has Illusionism at A
I think you might know what I'm getting at here...
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>>4723734
Oh wow, they straight up revealed one of Prelati's teachers was actually just taught by Merlin? Huh.
Guess it's not just a theory then.
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>>4723734
I meant more in the personal scale. So even if they can do Marble Phantasm-esque stuff to the environment they still cant do stuff directly to our brain?
Or are they just so good it doesnt count as mental stuff at all. Wouldnt stop them from killing us but...
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>>4723734
Also, I suppose you'd be immune to illusions that are supposed to specifically target your mind, but you wouldn't be able to see through an illusionary wall that was created to fool anybody that walked past it, if you understand me.
Usually, illusions are things limited to the mind of a target, but Merlin and Prelati have it at such a level that they are capable of creating illusions that exist within the world.
If you understand that.
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>>4723749
> Wouldnt stop them from killing us but...
Bah, Francesca couldn't even defeat Old Zouken when her illusions didn't work on him. Without her book she's very much a one-trick pony.
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>>4723754
Did Zouken actually get weaker with age or just more senile? I think he can do stuff like kill a Demon Pillar and Jack in his youth,
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>>4723760
He got weaker as he aged.
Prime Zouken was low Servant Level apparently.
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>>4723752
Also, I interpreted this "fooling the world" type illusionism as less creating "real" illusions, but treating either the Texture or local Human Order as a "mind" to fuck with.
I don't know if thats worse or not, but in my mind that explains why Merlin's Incubus based illusion fuckery is so stronk. Dream demon> Human Order(common dream of humanity)

I may also be completely off-base with this.
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>>4723760
Prime Zouken was a Grand who garnered the respect of Paracelsus and pretty much figured out the route towards the Third Magic. Why he didn't choose to become a Dead Apostle instead of a pile of rape worms, i'll never know
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>>4723773
Is this that stuff about Human Order being strong enough that normal humans can do Servant summoning = no Dead Apostles maybe?

I am still not clear if thats a thing, and if so why, but it would explain Why. DAs were not a thing for him.
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>>4723781
Dead Apostles still exist in the Fate World, Dead Apostle Ancestors don't, certain Dead Apostle Ancestors do show up but the group doesn't exist
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>>4723784
I think I remember some weird shit in Strange Fake where Enkidu and Gilgamesh don't recognize what a Dead Apostle is...but its also Strange Fake
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>>4723806
Dead Apostles didn't exist in BC
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>>4723806
Also it may also just refer to "natural" Dead Apostles turned by others and not ones that become like due to research. So Roa wouldn't be one, but Norikata could do it in theory?
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>>4723806
Eh, that's understandable.
The two of them would both predate the creation of the True Ancestors, I imagine, so Dead Apostles would be complete unknowns to them too.
>>4723771
It's really up for interpretation, but it might be possible for Merlin to fake a Marble Phantasm style ability with his illusions if he really tried to.
>>4723773
He was a Pride.
Which makes no god damned sense, unless he just decided to bail on the Clocktower's ranking system.
As the guy behind the Command Spells, Zouken was talented enough to create effects like teleportation, not to mention create a system that could actually control Heroic Spirits.
Yet he's only a Pride?
That's honestly bullshit, if you ask me.
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>>4723820
Could've sworn the oldest were 4k years ago.
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>>4723827
Well, the creation of True Ancestors in the time before Nasu arbitrarily decided the worlds didn't fit together anymore.
Otherwise, Dead Apostle creation just sort of... happened.
For reasons.
Honestly, Roa shouldn't have even had any reason to become a Dead Apostle in timelines where Arcueid didn't exist, considering he only did it in the first place because he was obsessed with her.
But yeah, Dead Apostles were created some time after Gilgy's era no matter what the timeline. Otherwise he would've probably wiped them all out.
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>>4723830
Gil was around 4600 years ago though, so it checks out.
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>>4723827
actually it makes sense if he decided to bail on the Clocktower, if he's capable of creating command spells and creating a path towards the Third Magic, that's an insta Sealing Designation

>>4723835
probably found one reason or another to want immortality, then he got owned by Edmond Dantes
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>>4723703
Yeah. Gotta save her from that weird sex cult and whatever disease she has.
Speaking of kids that need saving, what about Alice, the girl that fused with Nursery Rime? Didn't she get experimented on by the clocktower?
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>>4723852
we're probably gonna have to firebomb Clocktower, don't think they'll appreciate someone openly using magecraft like we almost certainly will
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>>4723846
Roa in his prime when he first got Arc to turn him was an absolute monster.
The guy needed the entire Burial Agency and 30% Arc to take him down. He had Age of Gods magecraft like the Sea of Life, and had a Reality Marble.
Fate Roa is lame.
Roa gets bullied enough as is.
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>>4723863
They actually built the Clocktower on top of the corpse of a Mountain Sized Dragon.
Somebody won't like that.
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>>4723869
I think Nasu just hates Roa now, like he's never really used at all, at least Nrvnqsr pops up here and there
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>>4723869
Wasn't the Sea of Life/Genesis NRQSR(fuck I cant spell this) inspiration?

And yeah, Roa basically won against a lot of Apostle Ancestors so they...did not include him because of that, in the DAA list?
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>>4723876
Also, is that dragon alive enough for us to heal? Since iirc its head is still kinda alive.

Dude just wanted to escape into the Reverse.
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>>4723876
Was it the red or white dragon? Or a third different one?
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>>4723881
The excuse given was that he didn't play by the DAA's rules and went against them in a few ways which makes sense actually. He disrespected Arc so her followers don't want him, he beat the shit out of Altrouge so she's out too and I assume he did something to burn that bridge with Trhvmn
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>>4723879
We only ever seen a dumb amnesiac Roa.
Even as a human Roa would've been monstrously strong, seeing as he co-founded the Burial Agency.
Having Dantes shit on him is just silly.
>>4723881
Yeah Roa taught Nrvnqsr how to use the spell to turn himself into what he is.
As for Roa's extra rank, they were just annoyed that hewasn't satisfied by normal dead apostle immortality.
Then they go ahead and put the sleepy spider, a dog, a forest and the moon in their special club.
Very silly.
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>>4723883
A different one, Clocktower has existed since before the AD Calendar.
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>>4723883
Below the Clocktower its called "Spirit Tomb Albion", but I don't know if that tells anyone anything about its identity.
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>>4723903
I would agree but Dantes is based and i love him
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>>4723915
Yeah, it's where they keep their magical DRM to stop people from pirating spells.
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>>4723903
Stanrobe, TATARI and Nrvnqsr aren't strictly DAs either I think, so theyre even less. Wraith, weird ass phenomenon, RM dude. Or was Chaos a legit a DA and had RM on top?
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>>4723903
Yeah, I always thought it was weird that Roa is too much of a weirdo to be part of the DAA club but hikki spider gets to sit in on meetings.
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>>4723923
Not like it matters at this point when space probes have more mystery than magical incantations.
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>>4723923
Man, I just remembered that weird part about how Touko actually patented magic stuff like her broom flight and her revival of runecraft shit. And she actually gets royalties.

I think Tohsakas also had some.
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>>4723930
Wallachia dresses like Dracula so he gets a free pass despite just being the plot of Persona 2.
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>>4723915
Albion is the white dragon of Britain so maybe we can revive Alítheia a husband of her own kind. Or just use it for the original meme plan
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>>4723930
>>4723930
I feel like the 21 Dead Apostle ancestors were never really meant to be filled out but they became a dumping ground for things that kind of fit.
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Just when you think the child sacrificing backstabbing magi couldn't get any worse, you find out they enforce intellectual property laws.
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>>4723957
Nuke the Clocktower AND Israel, got it.
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>>4723945
Also here goes my prediction; in Camelot Lostbelt we'll find out Zepia having Oberon name was actually tie to fairies and it will make him important again.

Something something, berserker Arc in Melty talks about Order and Sixth that Zepia freaked out over, something something fairies and elementals.elementals.
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>>4723968
To this day I don't understand how making himself a curse was supposed to save the world.
It was probably secondary to getting Arc's body now that I think about it.
There seems to be a theme of great magi forgetting what they wanted to do and just using whatever magic they made to save the world to coom.
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>>4723957
That entire island must be purged.
Also, I can`t believe you made Shinji share consciousness with Medusa just like that. Very kinky.
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Greekoid family trees are so strange. Medusa is the Grandmother of Echidna, the mother of all monsters, and the weird 3 bodied/headed thing Geyron in pic related. This is via her never appearing in Fate/ son and brother of Pegasus, Chrysaor, who knocked up a Titan-spawn water nymph/deity called Callirrhoe.

Medusa's son Chrysaor even comes with a unique golden sword as his birthright and namesake. He would see Stheno and Euryale as aunties.

He'd also make a decent Saber, having his brother the Pegasus as a possible mount and you'd imagine, some form of boon or protection from Poseidon (his father) considering he's a big enough simp to give it to Caenis after feeling bad about the rape thing.

Do you see what I'm shilling here WhatIs?
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>>4724009
I would forget the pic
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>>4724009
>poseidon feeling bad about a rape

nah dude, the main 3 of the greek gods do NOT give a fuck if they rape someone really.

zeus does it practically any time he shows up
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>>4724019
Poseidon specifically feels so bad about raping Caenis he gave the tranny his Trident, full use of his Authority and his Divine SeaGod core in Fate/

He also got dabbed on by Drake TWICE.

Poseidon is such a fag
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>>4724019
>At one point after turning down numerous courters, Caenis received the love of the sea god Poseidon (Neptune) and also lost the chastity once held. Satisfied, the sea god said, "I will grant all of your wishes" to which Caenis replied, "Please make me no longer a woman so that I will never have to go through an experience like this ever again" and Caenis became an invincible man, the legend says.
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>>4724021
>>4724023
this is not an isolated occasion
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>>4723983
I've also seen some speculation that Marisbilly and the Alien God is some weird ass plan to create a "single" confirmed history instead of Adjacent worlds, because saving all worlds is impossible, and that there is something similar to Zepia's and Dust's thing where they cannot caculate that many futures to save for sure?

So (Human) Order makes timelines=Infinite possibilities(even if most get Pruned)=cant calculate them all=if one fucks over entire Order its gg. Maybe Zepia just wanted to calculate good like Dust of Osiris to avoid this idk.

Sixth is probably a Magic that fucks the Order and is even worse than Blue which is already something to do with the Law of Consumption that the Human Order is based on.

Melty and Mahoyo stuff has a lot of lore left in it.
Realized this doesnt answer why Zepia turned himself into whatever but good theory imo, so its probably not what will be true
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>>4724028
Maybe Sixth is control over magical Noosphere?
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>>4724047
In KnK epilogue Mikiya theorizes (as an exposition machine) that it may have something to do with "making everyone happy". That makes sense if you think of Magic as things that are impossible.

That+ Sherlock's weird talk about fiction+nonfiction and textures...

Maybe it does something stupid like make every individual observer their own Texture so everyone is in their own ideal world and it explodes the Human Order because separation of observers seeing way different shit+overloaded on Adjacent World equivalents, and it tanks the resources?

That's my best guess right now. Also, since the 5th is something to do with Law of Consumption that is the foundation of the Human Order and the Sixth is after it, maybe its just "deciding what the Human Order is like" either would be fucking disastrous in practically anybody's hands.
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>>4724073
sounds like it's forcing a texture onto the world itself and overwriting any previous one to create some kind of limitless paradise texture that won't be pruned away
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>>4724073
i wanna know what the Fourth, at least there's hints about what the Sixth might be, there's literally nothing for the Fourth
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>>4724073
>>4724078
I can`t believe Alaya gave us Sixth just because we hugged her.
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Based on what I could find in sources right now;

Zepia wanted "to bring about a World wherein all manner of humans could be equal", but only "brought about annihilation".

It is also said that "Though he wasn't able to overwrite the system itself, he was able to linger within the system.", when talking about his nature as a Curse/phenomenon. Seems like it was Plan B if he got BTFO by seeking the Sixth somehow.

The NRVNQSR illusion of TATARI, if it wins (and becomes true??), says "Unto the end of this World; the day upon which Order is defeated by the 6th, let that we shall subsist in the midst of Order — " and TATARI when talking to Aoko says "The domain of confrontation against Order as in the manner that you lot [have achieved] is quite [beyond me].", probably talking about True Magicians.

1. So its most likely Order in general, Human Order as of right now because Humans are the Primates.
2. The Sixth according to Zepia should bring about equality of all humans.
3. The Sixth defeats the Order (Human?) and brings about essentially the end of the world.
4. The Sixth is a confrontation against the (Human?) Order, and that is probably needed for this paradise stuff.
5. True Magicians can all confront Order, as they are not Human.
6. Zepia's Curse nature let him remain in the Human Order (System?), so its basically Plan B contingency if he fucked up. His Curse nature is not enough to confront Order.

This is the best I can scrounge up right now.
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>>4724101
Actually, another part where it implies, imo, that all Magicians have their own "Order", and that is why they can confront (Human?) Order.

Berserk Arc calls Aoko (and co) "Dogs of the accursed Order".

When Aoko states that she is herself human, TATARI says the following,

" Fumu. So the person herself isn't aware of it, hm?
I broke it just now, but you should have a careful look into the mirror.
You'll encounter a monster that one wouldn't imagine to belong as of this World. "

If I take it literally, Magicians don't belong to the World, so presumably the Order itself. "accursed Order" can then theoretically mean any Order, I guess, not just the current one which is the Human Order as of modernity.

Melty Blood Back Alley Alliance Nightmare is deepest lore, and its only becoming more important as weird shit gets revealed.
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>>4724019
Zeus was an animal in heat. (Sometimes literally)
Poseidon had poor self-control, but he did have something of a conscience.
Hades was a simp for a single goddess, though he wouldn't take no for an answer. He never had eyes for anyone other than his wife afaik.
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>>4723876
I was willing to work with them as long as they accepted the King's authority. But if they upset our daughter we have to nuke them and salt the earth.
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Huuh. Looking at stuff, it seems new lore suggests that Zelretch isn't constant across timelines (at least per Tree of Time maybe?), and that in Fate verse, he isn't even a DA? That will be big brain lore
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>>4724299
>that Zelretch isn't constant across timelines
How does that work?
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>>4724302
Ask Nasu I guess.

One theory I saw is that there is one Zelretch "consciousness" or whatever, and that is how his observation=confirmation thing works. If he looks too hard at any given point of his own observation, all the observation weight will concentrate instead of being distributed or something. Makes as much sense as anything.

Since being a DA is having your soul bound to your body as a whole instead of brain+infected by moon shit, I guess that means at minimum each Zelretch has enough of an individual "soul" for there to be differences between them, like whether they are DA or not.
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>>4724306
Basically what we know, afaik, is that Fate Zelretch is not a DA. This in and of itself implies that not every Zelretch is the same/connected, but I don't thiiink we got any other statement.
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>>4724302
I remember reading a theory that there's only one Zelretch because one of his epithets is Solo The One and Only

>>4724299
Really? How is he not a constant? And isn't Type Moon dead in every timeline? and how is he not a DA?
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>>4724313
Source is HF3 movie Nasu interview it seems.
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>>4724319
Solo, The One and Only was never confirmed what it means, only assumed by people to mean that.

Also, Type Moon being dead alway doesn't mean that it came down in the same manner or behaved the same way. It could also be simply that when Zelretch killed it he didn't get bitten in the end.

It was questionable at all imo, that when talking about the Moon Cell, it was called as

"The Moon’s Eye.
A bottomless Klein Cube.
The observer of everything on our planet, and a Type-Moon whose master is no longer around."
So, is the Moon Cell the Type-Moon? Only when Crimson Moon is not around? Is it Crimson Moon's PC? Who knows
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>>4724326
For reference, it is Fate/EXTRA Material: Encyclopedia of Fate/EXTRA and Fate/EXTRA Last Encore's website translations that call it Type-Moon.

Timelines/Trees of Time seem to diverge a lot more than thought maybe? Or not and its just hidden lore
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>>4724326
>Is it Crimson Moon's PC?
What kind of porn do you guys think Crimson Moon have on it?
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>>4724336
Sorry, specifically it is Extra Mats, with Last Encore it was "the Grail of the Moon".
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>>4723773
There is this, that I found actually.
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Since we're in weird lore time, HF3 Interview also got us this about True Magic.

"The 3rd Magic itself existed before the Common Era, but it disappeared alongside the End of the Gods (It cannot be recreated), and 1000 years later the one who recreated it was Justeaze. The reason why the 1st is called the 1st is a very special reason to its special nature."

1st True Magic was not extant first if viewed chronologically, it was called the First due to some inherent property, not actually due to being the First Magic to be discovered in the current Era.

Timeline for 3rd looks something like this according to it currently.

At some point 3rd Magic User disappeared and the Einzbern were his golem dudes, but they can't into Magic because they dont have proper(?? human I guess?) souls for it.

After disappearance 1000 years later, they accidentally make Juzteaze but its a shitty knockoff by comparison, and also because "one person, and one generation of True Magic" I guess they can't even try again.

Juzteaze is sealed for 500 years.

Then Zouken makes Grail from her.

500 years later is Irisviel and Illyasviel.
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>>4724368
>the Third True Magic was around before the First!
Nasu morphs more into Tite Kubo every day.
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>>4724362
damn, are we gonna see another special Dead Apostle like Satsuki now?

>>4724368
Wasn't The First created when Jesus Christ was born and marked the end of Age of Gods? It makes sense that its called The First at that point, there are similar things to True Magic from AoG but True Magic as a concept was created the moment AoG could no longer apply
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>>4724374
>are we gonna see another special Dead Apostle like Satsuki now?
Nasu does seem to enjoy taking everything he can from her.
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>>4724374
All we know is that "the First Magician was born on the night before 0 AD".

Whether this is "the person who will become the Magician" is born, or "The Magician" is born as in the moment they achieve their Magic is unknown.

I have seen speculation it could be Mary rather, as immaculate conception coud be it if we take that Denial of Nothingness as an aspect of the First, but thats iffy too. Also if its Mary Nasu can make them a waifu I guess.
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>>4724378
i'm just gonna wait and hope for Sacchin's route in Part 2 of TsukiR, if she isn't there, i swear to God Nasu i will punch you in the throat

>>4724381
The First Magician was born the night BC turned to AD, but i do see your point, Mary being the First Magician makes sense
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>>4724373
The Truth feat. Beast Shinji and Sakura yelling "Onii-chan" over and over again.
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>>4724384
Better start preparing for a trip to Japan, friend.
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>>4724384
>Part 2
Nasu promised part 2 and 3 of Mahoyo 10 years ago upon releasing part 1.
It's time to let go.
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>>4724381
Well, to be clear, the best speculation I know is that the First Magic somehow made what is known as Ether in modernity.
Flat Snark stuff in Mahoyo, consolidation of Imaginary and True Ether into one thing but with differing qualities, Sherlock's fiction and real stuff, Ether Clumps as pure and unaspected Ether.

Also the fact that Mystery was being shitted on, and the Mage Association only wanted to preserve stuff as "academia" but suddenly Ether/Prana existed. Prana is also literally=ether now btw.

But Flat Snark is the big ??? as it has some same Kanji as First's Creation? Something like that, dont have a TL in front of me rn. Basically made modern imaginary ether usable which is the same as true but fictional maybe.
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>>4724389
WAIT AND HOPE. For January 2022, if it doesn't release there, Nasu is a fucking hack
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>>4724395
>if it doesn't release there, Nasu is a fucking hack
I don't need to wait to know he's a hack. Last Encore was enough. Not to mention making a game people have waited for a decade and releasing it in an incomplete state at full price. The character art in Tsuki R is also unironically worse than OG. Shiki is just glasses Shirou.
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re:Flat Snark.

It was this. "Separated of the First(the Beginning) , [it is] the greatest Fabrication in this World!"

Blue is also some weird shit.
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>>4724399
I am more upset with the new Arcueid.
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>>4724393
That wouldn't make sense considering Solomon would predate ether in that case.
Also it's not "prana".
It's magical energy.
Prana is some yoga term that a translator used even though it was wrong and it stuck.
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>>4724401
I'm not entirely convinced Takeuchi didn't kill Nasu years ago and take over writing everything so they have to halfass their art and make everyone a Saberface.
Weekend at Nasu's.
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>>4724401
genuinely. i think the only bad thing is the skirt, everything else is good

>>4724399
Takeuchi fucked up drawing only Saber all day, now he can only draw Saber and Shirou, it fucking sucks. Also idk what happened with Last Encore, heard it sucked
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>>4724389
>Mahoyo
actually, what is the deal with Mahoyo? Like, he made a VN with sequel bait then just didn't release anything for a decade? He had nothing else going on, its very odd, it almost sounds like he abandoned it
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>>4724403
Prana just means breath/breath of vital energy and since magical energy/life force I am fine woth using it as shorthand instead of writing magical energy/maryoku always. But for precision's sake I can do that too.

Mana is rendered as breath of the planet anyway iirc, and dragons breathe that shit too.

I am going through some quotes on Magic from. Mahoyo and its pretty clear Magic is some bad shit
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>>4724409
>what is the deal with Mahoyo?
Preasu undastandu, keeping promises very hard.
Here play this rushed Melty with no characters, NO PC release and with the literal main character of Melty carefully excised from it.
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Oh god, I just realized that if they add Sion as DLC or something, there's like a 50/50 chance they decide to make it the fake Saberface FGO Sion for the tie-in.
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>>4724414
Too much work. Just copy her recent most assets from UNDER NIGHT IN-BIRTH.
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yeaaaaaaaah haha
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Look at that inferior clone.
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Mahoyo says "But Magic was as a providence of God [from] without the sky.", where I think God from without the sky (universe) is the same kind of thing that Foreigner's Gods are? Where they are simply completely fictional/foreign to the World.
"These works to the exclusion of Man; to the exclusion of the Star" when referring to Magic. Star (Hoshi) as Planet I guess, so completely alien as above.

"It was plainly a crime. Magic was as the very enemy of Man." also doesn't sound promising.
In relation to the "enemy of Man" part, the red shadow in Mahoyo has some Goetia-isms to say like "Likewise, the worth of life mustn't enter to recollection. Likewise, the sacredness of death mustn't enter to thought." Where it wishes to erase death so it must not be sacred.

Also, Magic seems to be one of things where the World actively hates you for it. "But the savagery called as changing the World; the insolence as to antagonize the Star"
Aoko saying "Per mine Designatiion , which doth Order reveal, I announce." is weird as hell imo, as Designations are usually a Demon thing. Order comes up as I posted beforehand with the Melty info."Order doth , here crumble"

Talk about annihilation of Man, incantation being "-- all is proper (not SANE)" very reassuring.

All in all, Magic Bad, Blue Worse because it does energy/heat/time/debt fuckery and maybe something something the energy that Pruning conserves maybe?

I am expecting the Sixth and the other Magics to be at least this bad. As to why this came up here, due to the First and potential Sixth being discussed along with Mahoyo.
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>>4724424
It also confirms Heat Death somehow, and its spooky Nasu Heat Death, where the Universe becomes as before the "Opening" (Talking of the Blue).

It is based on the Law of Consumption as per the Human Order, and the "Heat Death" is the natural consequence of consumption and expansion without limit. This Law of Consumption is what permits the destruction of Mystery and assimilation of stuff into Order.

My guess is that it actually has answers in Servant Universe stuff (wherein jokes are the highest lore). It is called Universe of Blue Brilliance, and is actually where Human Order is Galaxy sized, not Solar System/Planet sized.

Maybe the 3rd Magic and (partial? actual Magic not understood) 1st Magic being needed to make this endless consumption reach a productive end?
3rd for soul perpetuity and surviving the assloads of Ether or whatever in space and 1st for seemingly filling the Universe with Ether, which it may have already done on smaller scale?

An "Open" universe that is filled with endless resources to consume (ether) and filled with beings who can survive the "openness" and the ether to consume eternally? Would that suffice as a paradise as of the Sixth, or its annihilative nature (if without the weird circumstance of 3rd being manifest universally but without the perpetual energy generation, the First filling everything with Ether and maybe the 5th supercharging Law of Consumption as basis of Order?)

Most absurd joke that may be hidden lore, Mysterious Heroine XX saying that the Outer God/Foreigner source for their universe (one of them) is Capitalism. Capitalism=Law of Consumption personified?

Maybe its time for me to put the Nasu stuff down for a bit and clean my brain.
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>>4723606
>I hope you don't go too hard on the bullying with these two.
No can do buddy. These two little minxes are simply too damn se-cute not to bully the shit out of!
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>>4724438
You're right about that stheno and euryale are the most erotic lolis in fate shame they don"t have that many doujin.
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"Now, which of the two sisters are you then?" You pat the mane of Pegasus for a few moments, before you dismount the horse with great ease, the winged horse proceeds rests its chin on your shoulder affectionately and nuzzles you again slightly. Guess it really appreciated you healing it, huh? "Stheno or Euryale? You know, you look surprised to see me here. Were the three of you not expecting any guests today? I was expecting more of a... welcoming party. Not living shades and giant snakes." Honestly, between Orochi and Gorgon herself, you feel like you've already had more than your fair share of dealing with humongous snakes. At least the ones in this place were easy enough to kill, unlike that bastard Yamata-no-Orochi.

The girl stares at you in shock for a few more seconds, and then at Pegasus for a few seconds, and then finally back to you. "We... haven't had any visitors since Medusa sealed the temple off from the rest of the island, but that doesn't matter to you, does it? You just want to worship me, right?" The girl does a cute pose, apparently expecting her divine charm abilities to work on you. Ha, good luck with that, you little manipulative demon.

You laugh at her for a few seconds. "No, I really don't. I want you to take me to the one useful person on this entire godforsaken island, I'm here to help Medusa. So please take me to her, OK?" You suppose you should've expected to meet these two here, you wonder if this sister is simply a bundle of tied together memories, or if her soul is actually here, like in Betty's mental world. Though obviously Medusa wouldn't have the ability to recreate souls from memories, though if your current theory holds up, then these two would probably have been made a part of this place when... Medusa ate the two of them in life.

The purple twin-tailed girl titters in laughter. "Godforsaken island? I think you're mistaken! This island is the home of two beauti-"

You cut the girl off, she's just annoying you now. You're in a rush, and you don't have the time to spend messing around with Stheno or Euryale like this. "Look, I really don't care about your attempts to charm me, you can keep trying all day long, but your magic isn't going to work on me. So, you can either take me to your younger sister, or you can get out of my sight, understand?" You have a smile on your face as you take on a faux nice tone. "Now, you can tell me if you're Stheno or Euryale, or I'll ignore you." These girls crave and demand human attention, despite deep down, hating humans, these two cannot function without human attention.

The girl looks even more shocked now than when she first came across you riding atop Pegasus. "I'm... Euryale." Right. You doubt that, there's a ninety percent chance that this sister is Stheno, just based on that alone. "If you really want to gape at our useless sister sleeping, I suppose I should lead you to her... Weirdo" The sister utters a small insult towards you under her breath.
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"I heard that." You keep a serene smile on your face. "Now, let's go Sakura. We need to be going." Wait a second, where did Sakura go? She was just there a second ago! Oh, she must've ducked behind that wall over there when she heard somebody arrive.

"Heeeh~? Are you talking to the horse?" The little girl giggles a little at your sudden command to your sister. "What a stupid name! His name is Pegasu-" She gets cut off again.

"He's talking to me." Sakura suddenly steps out from behind a short wall, she's got a calm smile on her face as she looks at the girl, though it's almost certainly disguising just a small amount of disdain for Medusa's horrible elder sisters. Of course, Sakura has shared Medusa's memories through her dreams, even when she had her Servant taken from her, with the connection still there, she should've ended up seeing how the two girls treated their sister. Basically like an indentured servant they constantly bullied.

"Argh! The Mother Goddess?!" Stheno(?) falls flat on her backside as Sakura steps out from behind the wall. She stares up at Sakura, trying to discern something about your sister before the panic and fear falls off her face. "No... No, I was just mistaken. You're... just a human, right?" Sakura's smile doesn't fall from her face, and Stheno backs away a little in fear of Sakura, she must be getting some really weird vibes from Tiamat.

"This is my sister, Sakura. She's a friend of Medusa's as well." You introduce your sister, not allowing the smile on your face to leave it. You are of course pretty angry at being faced with this idiot girl, half of the duo that basically caused this island to be the grave of all three of the sisters. Had they not insisted they go and live in isolation with Medusa, then Medusa would've been able to have lived a life of solitude, and wouldn't have been forced to slay whatever man made his way to her island when they attempted to take either Stheno or Euryale for themselves. She also wouldn't have been practically abused by her elder sisters either. The selfish little brats. Medusa might love the two of them deeply, but her love for these two girls is really really misplaced. "Now, take us to Medusa, we've spent long enough talking. I need to speak with her before it's too late."

"...Are you... sure you don't want to admire how beautiful I am?" The girl does a quick pirouette, really trying all that she can to get you to fall under her spell, you simply respond by reinforcing your hand and slamming in against the stone wall of the stable, causing cracks to form in the stone. "Eep! OK! OK! I'll take you to Medusa!" Doesn't look like she was expecting you to be so strong. She must be confused by your strange outfit too, you can't imagine that high quality suits were a very common thing to see in ancient Greece.
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Finally, the girl starts to lead you to your target, and you and Sakura weave through statues to keep following the girl. Oddly enough, Pegasus decides to join you, the willful horse leaving the stable by himself and coming after you, knocking over the statues as he trots along. If those things weren't basically the gravestones of long-dead would-be heroes, it would almost be endearing as the large beast tried his hardest to keep up as he trampled the statues to fragments underfoot.

Seeing the path of destruction being cut through the statues by the horse, the girl decides to give the colorful statues a wide-berth, and you can see why. The reason they were so colorful was because of the large assortment of clothing being dried on them. It's actually amazing that Stheno and Euryale have so much clothing, considering that they live on a tiny island. Probably gifts from those who come here seeking their favor, before being granted their death at the hands of Medusa.

Eventually, you end up in walking around the side of a large building that is in a somewhat in-tact condition. It actually has four walls and a roof, with no visible holes in it! There's actually very clear repair work that has been done on parts of the building, and you grit your teeth in annoyance. Just another thing they made Medusa do, looks like. What absolutely useless goddesses.

You keep your eye of the girl, making sure that she never gets out of your sight. Of course, you're much faster than she is, so you letting her lead you to Medusa is mostly just because she would know where to find her sister. Eventually, the group ends up turning a corner, leading to the entrance to the large building, and you come face to face with another of the sisters.

"Eh, what's all this?" The girl standing in front of the doors leading into the building tilts her head in confusion. "Actual visitors?" She looks confused at your arrival

"Ah, you must be Euryale." The girl who introduced herself as Euryale tenses up, as she realizes that you successfully called her bluff.

"Oh? Yes, that's true. How unlike myself to introduce herself as herself." Oh right, you forgot that these two enjoy pretending to be the same in every way. Often even referring to each other as one. Well, it's only natural for the twins to act like this. The girls are basically the same in almost every single way, after all, and it's not like the two could really be called different, if you recall correctly, they share a deep link with each other, feeling whatever the other sister feels. Of course, this means that this girl must've already felt her sister's surprise and momentary fear, but sharing their feelings doesn't mean that they share each other's thoughts. "So, why have you come to this island? Have you come to take us away from the dreaded snake mons-"
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"No. I'm here for Medusa alone. You two kind of feel like afterthoughts, if anything." Euryale's eyes widen in shock, just like Stheno's did. They've probably never met a man, be it a God or a Human, who was immune to their charms before, so this must come as quite the world-changing experience to them. Of course, Sakura is a female, so it's not like their charms would've worked on her anyway, but even if they did, they wouldn't have managed to affect her through her Magic Nullification anyway, you would bet.

"An... An afterthought? Never has a human who has been so cruel to us come to our island! Just what makes you think you can get away with talking down to goddesses?!" Euryale gets mad, and you smirk.

>"Because you're both already dead. You're just souls, the remnants of your beings left inside your sister after she ate you both... Well, you did kind of feed yourselves to her. Try to remember."
>"Goddesses?! Ha! On the scale of divine hierarchy, you're nothing! You don't even have actual authority! Don't go around with over-inflated egos, you useless goddesses!"
>"Because you're both abusive manipulative little goblins, and it was your misguided love for Medusa that drove her to her death and tragedy."
>"Because you mistreat your youngest sister. I know that you love her, but you should show her that love more. Besides, she's more attractive than either of you two."
>Headpat the girls. "Just take me to Medusa."
>Write-in...
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>"Because you mistreat your youngest sister. I know that you love her, but you should show her that love more. Besides, she's more attractive than either of you two."
> "Just take me to Medusa."

Avoiding the hard insult options until we get what we want and came here for. After we have Medusa we can assume the t-pose and let loose the insults.

Novel of an update, blessed qm.
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>>4724471

>>4724473
Imagine remembering to link the post
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>>4724471
>"Because you mistreat your youngest sister. I know that you love her, but you should show her that love more. Besides, she's more attractive than either of you two."
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>>4724471
Support >>4724473
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>>4724471
>>4724473
Support
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>>4724471
>>4724473
Support
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>>4724471
Support for >>4724473
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>>4724471
>>4724473
+1

Now that's exactly the kind of Shinji charm I wanted to see used against them.
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Calling in 25 minutes.
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"Why I think I can get away with talking down to goddesses? Because you look down on your youngest sister, and treat her like trash? Medusa might've been the one cursed to grow older, but she protected you with all that she had! Two twin goddesses who's very existence ensnared the hearts of men and made them take leave of their senses. Medusa sacrificed so much for you two, yet you only ever treated her like she was barely deserving of any of your affection!" You yell at the two girls, who cower back in fear at your outburst. "Who has the true curse, hmm? The two girls incapable of understanding humanity, forced to be subjected to the lust of every male who lays eyes upon them? Or their younger sister, a noble girl, who only slays men to protect the two that she loves from their own charms? Medusa never hated humans, she was only ever trying to protect the two of you! And... And she became a...!" Medusa's fate always struck you as one of the cruelest ends for such a noble loyal woman as herself. All she ever wanted to do was protect those she cared about, but in the process, she not only ended up vilified by the world, but she even destroyed the two she wanted to protect the most. Even as the Gorgon, she was not given peace, hero after hero being sent to slay her, until the gods finally sent Perseus to finish her off for good. You cough, you... really got carried away with yourself there. "You should... show your youngest sister a little more love, you know?" You then smirk at the two girls. "Anyway, she's more attractive than either of you two anyway, so stop being so full of yourselves and just take me to Medu-" This time, you are the one who gets cut off.

The doors behind the Gorgon sisters open up. "What's... going on?!" A new voice joins in on the conversation, and standing in the doorway, with bandaged wounds and chain and nail at the ready, is Medusa herself. "Shinji?! Sakura?! What... What are you two doing here?! Don't tell me that... I devoured the two of you as well!" Medusa sinks to her knees as she looks at you, seems like she's not entirely aware of things on the outside world. Stheno and Euryale are looking very confused by Medusa's words. The two are very obviously in the dark about things right now.
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You don't take long to adjust to the sudden emergence of Medusa from the building, and you cross your arms as you look at her. "Not quite, the Gorgon did try to warn us to stay away from her, which culminated in her using Breaker Gorgon to seal us within this place when we ignored her... Alongside you, I would wager. Speaking, of... It's good to see you again, Medusa. I've missed you, and so has Sakura." You squeeze Sakura's hand lightly as you smile at Medusa, unfortunately, with Breaker Gorgon sealing off her sight, it's not like she could actually tell you smiled at her. You can only imagine that there's some sort of mental split going on with the two aspects of her personality. With Medusa atop the hills in this temple, and Gorgon roaming the island itself. Though judging from how things seem to be going, it's pretty clear that Medusa is losing against the superior power of the Gorgon.

"But... how did you get all the way here, if you were sealed by the power of Breaker Gorgon? You shouldn't have been able to make it through the forests without running across one of the Gorgon's snakes, which... would make quick work of two mundane humans, even one as skilled as Sakura told me you are, Shinji." Stheno and Euryale are looking at the wounded Medusa and back to you as you speak with the older woman with quite a bit of familiarity, they obviously weren't expecting you to actually know Medusa.

"You'll need more than just Breaker Gorgon to seal my abilities, Medusa! Well... That and the fact that since the last time you saw each other, Sakura has gotten... a little bit more powerful, so it didn't properly work on her either." A little bit is really overselling it, if Sakura wanted to, she could fully unseal her power and end the world with the full power of the Beast Tiamat at her disposal. If one were to compare Dark Sakura at the height of her power to the power Sakura is currently capable of bringing about if she were to wish it, the original Dark Sakura would be swept away like an insect is swept away by the rain. Hell, even BB at the height of her power would probably fall to the true power of a Beast. The Moon Cell might be capable of replicating divine spirits to some degree, but it doesn't seem to capable of replicating the Evils of Humanity in their true forms. "Besides, you look a little... worse for wear, I imagine you got those wounds trying to fend off the Gorgon?"
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Medusa frowns, and the two sisters look intrigued by your words. "What... What are you two talking about? Medusa only said that there was something really dangerous outside so she had to keep us trapped here!" Stheno steps forwards, and looks at her sister with a devilish glare, Medusa flinches back, more than capable of telling the mood of her sister from just the tone in her voice. "If you weren't still recovering from those wounds you got, you'd be getting your punishment right now, Meduseless! Honestly, how on earth could you let yourself get hurt by somebody coming to this island? You're supposed to turn them to stone, you gorill-"

"Enough." You put quite a bit of force in your tone as you stop Stheno from verbally abusing her sister, even now Medusa is trying her hardest for these ungrateful little brats, and they've barely repaid her at all for it! There's a grateful look on Medusa's fate for you stopping the verbal onslaught from the girls who have no idea what's going on. Pegasus whinnies behind you, and Medusa turns her head to face her force, a small but hurt smile on her face as she blindly looks in the direction of the majestic beast. You wonder how she'll react to finding out that the horse seems to have acknowledged you as one of it's riders, or that you healed it of it's wounds.

>"Medusa, I'm going to heal your wounds now. You should tell everyone exactly what it is that's happening here, including those two."
>"Stheno. Euryale. Go to bed or something. It's time for the adults to talk."
>"I'm going to save you."
>"I'm glad that you're still... you, Medusa."
>"You know, you shouldn't let your height get to you so much, Medusa. You're much more attractive than these little goblins could ever hope to be."
>Hug Medusa.
>Write-in...
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>>4724525
>>Hug Medusa.
>apologies for not recovering her sooner
>"Medusa, I'm going to heal your wounds now. You should tell everyone exactly what it is that's happening here, including those two."
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>>4724525
>"I'm glad that you're still... you, Medusa."
>"Me and Sakura are going to save you. I'm sorry it took us so long."
>"Medusa, I'm going to heal your wounds now."
>Hug Medusa.
>"You know, you shouldn't let your height get to you so much, Medusa. You're much more attractive than these little goblins could ever hope to be."
>"And now you should tell everyone exactly what it is that's happening here, including those two."

I called it. She tried to fight the Gorgon with Pegasus and lost. Now we have to heal her, encourage her, and go beat up a giant snake so she can take control again.
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>>4724525
>>4724528
This.
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>>4724525
>>4724528
Support
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>>4724525
>>4724528
Supporting


Also that plain "I'm going to save you" would either work really well or really badly, it looks like to me?
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>>4724525
>>4724528
That's a pretty nice combo. Support.
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>>4724533
Yeah, saying just that without anything else would probably only increase her despair and feeling of uselessness.
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Calling in 30.
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>>4724525
>>4724528
Support
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>>4724528
>>4724525
Support. Also can we have both of them at some point?
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>>4724539
Thoughts on the following text wall a friend sent me from somebody else?
>>Shirou never betrayed or left Shinji, shinji is the one who got Shirou kicked out of the club, and without a word Shirou left. Which is what set Shinji off. "Is that all it means to you" kinda bullshit, with Shinji instantly forgetting he's the one who did it. Shirou just accepted it due to his martyr complex. If people would kill him, he'd accept it without a question. But Shinji never bothered to understand that. Without the club, they had no place to see each other every day anymore. And Shinji resented Shirou for "walking out". Shinji is a huge woman.
>is he? he wasn't even a captain and left the club after shirou. shirou shouldn't have hurt his hand working on a shittone of part-time jobs before the tournament, he also didn't enjoy it as a club activity, but used it as a training cause he is fucking robot
>>Shinji brought up Shirou's ugly scar with everyone and was spreading rumors to try to force Shirou's hand, about how unsightly it was and someone like that shouldn't be in the club. But instead of fighting it, Shirou just left as soon as he saw that he was a bother. Which only got to Shinji more, the fact that he couldn't control Shirou. Even if he did what you wanted, Shirou always does it without caring. Its just like in the prologue Shinji told Shirou to clean the entire archery hall by himself for no reason.
>>Shinji was never the captain, but he's the guy at school who starts bitch rumors trying to get people kicked out.
>>Shirou got a scar on his left shoulder lifting boxes at work, at doing archery makes you expose your shoulder to shoot.
>I mean, I don't mind it being true, but where did you read this?
>>FSN mostly, but its told from Shirou's perspective the first time so you don't really get the implications until later. From Shirou's perspective its told like an event that literally didn't matter at all. The movie also showed that moment when Shirou left the archery club, and you saw Shinji seething even though he's the one who said to do it. In FSN there are things told to you early on that you understand more later, and you may get told it a second time later on from another perspective, I think Sakura talked about it once as well.
>>Shirou was in the club for years, but he treats leaving like just something he doesn't care about even now. Without a word he just left. he told the story in Fate route when talking about his job once.
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>>4724549
OG Shinji was never humbled or faced consequences in his life ever until after the grail war. He got to rape his own adoptive sister nightly without repercussions, He was the popular "pretty boy" in school with chicks hanging on his every word, Everyone in school superficially liked him except for a few students like Tohsaka.

To sum it up, OG Shinji was an ass. He had some kind of superiority complex, and hated weakness from others and "useless" people. If he was taken down a peg or two in his childhood he might have been more successful.
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I don't quite get what you want me to say about this.
Canon Shinji is a stupid asshole?
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At least EXTRA Shinji, while still an asshole, isn't as much of an asshole.
Probably because he's an 8 year old.
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>>4724556
Booba
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>>4724539
WhatIs, I want you to know, I hope we patrol these trash sisters at every given oppertunity. Medusa superiority must be kept high agove these two goblinoid thots
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Since we're talking about rape i am curious was byakuya also raping sakura?
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>>4724559
I am very happy with the amount of patrolling we've been doing so far and I can only hope we continue making this the most frustrating day in the little goblins' life.

>>4724560
I'm pretty sure he was, yes. The worms needed mana even before Shinji's balls dropped and the old worm couldn't possibly get it up.
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>>4724560
>>4724564
Oh my... did that happen in our timeline?
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>>4724560
>>4724564
almost certainly.
with the exception of maybe kariya, all the male matous since Zolgen were probably scum.
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>>4724566
Yes.
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>>4724567
>probably
I don't think that's needed. Kariya was the one Matou who wasn't completely awful, before us.

We should talk to Sakura about him at some point, I don't think we ever did. Maybe make a cenotaph for him, posthumously recognizing him as Kariya Makiri. And write "He tried his best" at the gravestone.
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>>4724573
>And write "He tried his best" at the gravestone.
That's kinda cruel imo.
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>>4724579
Well, it's the Truth.
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>>4724573
Do you want to give him a gold star sticker too?
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>>4724524
>>4724528
Support
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>>4724591
Oops, meant for >>4724528
Lol
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I was re-reading the saving Sakura arc, and found this promise to Touko:
> "Actually... Shishou... I... I wanted to give you something." You take a deep breath. "I want to show my appreciation to you by giving you anything you want."
She said at the time she doesn't need anything but Shinji insisted:
> "Alright then, Shishou. But I don't want you to forget my offer. Anything in the world. I'll make sure that you get it."
>Anything
If she takes him up on the offer, things might get interesting.
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>>4724633
A baby in her belly and ring probably. Professional groomer hours. Far better than Aoko's Shounen H plan.
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"I'm glad that you're still... you, Medusa." You look directly at the woman. Finally letting your relief be known, that this part of Medusa hasn't been completely lost to her darker impulses. You aren't going to let her be controlled by the being seeped in evil that is the Gorgon. No, Medusa doesn't deserve such a cruel fate to be re-enacted upon her. She deserves happiness, and you'll... even see if it will be possible for Betty help you drag the souls of her sisters back out into the outside world alongside Medusa after this is all dealt with. As much as you dislike the two sisters for how poorly they've treated Medusa in the past, they are still very dear people to Medusa, and Medusa is very dear to them as well, as they freely chose death when the Gorgon fully overtook her, not wanting to live in a world where their Medusa no longer existed... Well, that and the fact that the Gorgon would've eventually gone for them at some point, so they had a choice of a life of violation by whatever would-be hero next came to the Shapeless Isles, or they could chose to die with some dignity at the hands of their sister. You wonder if they came to regret their decision when the myriad snakes making up the Gorgon's monstrous form smashed them into paste before devouring what was left. Well, not like they would've had much of a chance to regret their actions before being incorporated into the Gorgon.

"I'm... still holding on." Medusa has a sad smile on her face. But she clearly doesn't have much faith in being able to remain herself for much longer. It's amazing that she's managed to fend off the Gorgon at all! Of course, Pegasus is very much a big factor when it comes to her success against the monstrous version of herself. You pet the side of the horse's head. You can see why Medusa is so fond of the horse. It's her most reliable ally of all, helping her even against her own inner demons.

"Me and Sakura are here to save you... I'm sorry it took us so long to help." You really wish that you could've saved all your allies from Manaka's clutches before something like this ended up happening. But so much stuff started happening to you, it was probably... impossible. You wish that you never went to that temple in the first place! You could only imagine how this war might've ended up going if Alcides was never lost the first time you went to the temple. You feel like Illya would've had a much greater role to play, she also would've been far more dangerous to have as an ally with somebody like Alcides willing to follow her commands.
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"Save me? How do you plan on doing that? Do you plan on fighting the Gorgon? The only way for me to take back control of myself would be a... battle for control against her, a battle that... I'm leaving. I've been forced to fall back here, to make my final stand. Should I lose here..." Medusa looks at Stheno and Euryale, and you realize just why the two of them are still here. You don't need Medusa to explain everything. When the Gorgon devoured her two sisters, it could be said that her transformation into a monster had finally finished. A beast that devoured all in it's path, be it humans or gods, that was the sort of Divine Beast that the Gorgon ended up becoming, these two girls here are the last things the Gorgon needs to fully take control and subsume Medusa's personality completely, along with the currently still intact souls of her sisters.

"Defeat the Gorgon?" You smirk "Of course." You approach the woman, and start to call upon your magic once again as you softly grab her wrist. "Medusa, hold still, I'm going to heal you now." You begin to use your magic to heal all of the wounds she managed to take in her last battle against the Gorgon. Stheno and Euryale are still just gawking at how things are progressing. The fact that a man is ignoring them must be incredibly strange for the two girls. Then again, they hate humans exactly because they are so weak to their charm, so... Honestly, you don't really know how the two of them are going to feel about you by the end of today. Probably not very good if you keep insulting them and delivering put-downs to them. But then again, they absolutely do deserve such things. Somebody has to do it, after all. As your magic flows through Medusa's body, erasing the cuts and bruises on her body, you wrap your arms around the woman, who jumps in surprise, you bring your mouth to her ear and begin to whisper. "Don't worry, we're going to get through this, Medusa." You let her go from the hug, and she looks at you... or well, she would, but there's a blindfold in the way and you didn't exactly bring a set of Mystic Eye Killers with you to confront the Gorgon.

"I... it's stupid... But I believe you... I honestly believe that you'll be able to defeat the Gorgon..." Medusa laughs to herself. "I had no hope left, yet... here you and Sakura are, here to shine a light in my darkest moment. I..." It honestly looks like she might start crying behind her blindfold at your words.
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"There's no need to say anything more here, Medusa. Let's get you saved first, I'm sort of on... limited time here, after all." You have no idea how much time might've passed in the outside world by now, but with any luck, there's some form of time dilation going on between your mind and your body. "Also, are those two really the reason you're so insecure about your height?" You tilt your head to look at the two girls. "You gently stroke aside one of her hairs. I've seen your face, Medusa, you're more attractive than those two little goblins." You sneer at the two girls.

""G-goblins?!"" Stheno and Euryale say in unison. This insult may have gone just a little too far, but whatever. The more they get put in their place, the better their chances of realizing that Medusa is the best of the three sisters, and the competition isn't even close, you'd have to be a weak willed fool who fell under their charm to disagree with this assessment.

"Medusa! Kill him! Kill him immediately! Somebody like this is... he doesn't get to... Just take off your blindfold! Turn him to stone, or something!" The two girls start calling for your death, but... they probably don't mean it? Well, they might, depending on just how large their egos actually are, but honestly, they don't sound like they actually want you gone. It's probably a refreshing change for the two girls, not to be adored, as strange as it sounds.

"...No." Medusa has a wide smile on her face, as she happily ignores her sisters. You take a look at your own sister, who seems to have a very very... mixed expression on her face about how you just dealt with Medusa. She's obviously very happy to see the woman is still somewhat OK, but that happiness is tinged with envy and jealousy, and a clear dislike for Medusa's two sisters.

You spin on your heel to face the two sisters. "What are you going to do now? Your ultimate trump card has failed you. The two of you are really going to need a lesson in how to treat people you care about..." You sigh. "When I get the two of you out of here as well." As much as you personally dislike the girls for how poorly they've treated Medusa in the past, you can't deny that they also did live something of a cursed existence, and for as much as they irritate you, they too deserve the chance of being able to live relatively normal lives.

"What are you talking about, Shinji?" Medusa sounds confused by your casual decision to bring the girls back to life. to her, your words must sound too good to be true. For as abusive as her sisters are to her, she still loves them with almost all of her being.
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"Ah, It's... something that Betty is capable of doing, so long as the original soul of something is intact, or if she has good enough memories of a soul to actually reproduce it by herself, she's capable of... well, bringing people back from the dead, in fully incarnated bodies that perfectly match the soul." It's a truly miraculous ability to bring the dead back to life, though there's... probably something of a difference between a soul that is being given a new body from the original, and a soul that is copied from memories of the original to be given new life, though you suppose it really depends on how complete her memories of something are. After all, Servants are all simply copies of the true Heroic Spirits that reside within the Throne of Heroes, with the exception of perhaps Mordred right now, who was likely retroactively removed from the Throne through a paradox, due to the legend of the living Mordred currently being greater than the legend of the dead Mordred. You kind of doubt it'll be possible for you to ever accidentally summon a Second Mordred. "But... Moving on from everything else, I think it's time for you to explain things to everyone here. Including those two." You point at the two sisters.
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Medusa takes a deep breath, as she sighs. "Stheno... Euryale... I have a... confession to make. This world... It's not real... or rather, it's a world within my mind, the place where your souls have ended up, ever since I... In life, in life I killed the two of you. I was unable to control myself as the Gorgon, forced to watch as a powerless observer as the evil that controlled my body swallowed both of you without hesitation. It was... agonizing." She explains to the two girls, who don't really seem all that shocked, as if the information being shared with them by Medusa has revealed the full truth to them, that was simply hidden from them. "Right now, I've been... summoned to a world thousands of years into the future, and... again, I've begun to transform into the Gorgon thanks to the work of a demon in a girl's body. Shinji and Sakura here are... Dear friends, and have come here to save me, even now." Stheno and Euryale kind of look like they feel terrible, especially when they look at you. You pet Pegasus again as Medusa continues her explanation. "Now, I am what is left of the Medusa that once was before the corruption, and I have been trying to slow the Gorgon's progress by assaulting it with Pegasus, but every hour it grows more powerful, and harder to fend off. It has claimed the entire island now, and... should it devour any of us three, then... that will be the end of all of us, and... probably of hundreds of thousands of people as the Gorgon rampages outside this place." You already realized that. Pandemonium Cetus may very well be one of the most terrifying Noble Phantasms out of all that exist. You'd say that it's at least in the top ten for horrifying damage done to a wide area at a nearly unstoppable pace... maybe. Not many Noble Phantasms can melt entire cities instantly with just a True Name Release. "Even though I'm healed, I... don't think I'll be able to defeat the Gorgon..."

"Don't worry, Medusa. We'll come up with a plan to beat it, in fact, I was wondering..."

>"...if we could charge at it together on top of Pegasus, I'll form a Truth barrier around us as we charge! We'll be like an unstoppable gouging spear!"
>"...if we should confront it on the floor. If Sakura used her abilities, we would likely be able to bind it long enough to deal a fatal blow to it."
>"...if you want to fight alongside me. I could probably create you a temporary weapon out of Manifested Truth that would allow you to slice through the immortality of the Gorgon."
>"...if you would be willing to allow me to... alter you slightly. It won't take effect in the material world, but I believe that as this place is a mental construct, I could apply a concept directly onto you to help you fight." (What concept?)
>Write-in...
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Is there a way to kill the Gorgon and keep its power up for Medusa? Or make her able to change forms at will? That would be ideal.
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>>4724666
>"...if you would be willing to allow me to... alter you slightly. It won't take effect in the material world, but I believe that as this place is a mental construct, I could apply a concept directly onto you to help you fight." (What concept?)
>Foreigner (Truth), try to bestow on Medusa part of your own conceptual powers similary how Alítheia came to being from mix of Medea`s NP and your blood
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>>4724678
The only way to do so is probably to give her enough power to wrestle full control over Gorgon and her powers. So she will subdue monster part of her and absorb in without major mental damage and divinity deterioration with monstrofication.
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>>4724679
Alítheia is only capable of existing because the actual origin point of her existence was of truth, and it basically reformatted the soul that was already contained within the Golden Fleece.
Are you... certain you want to do something like this to Medusa, with that in mind?
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Also, does Medusa have a contract from Manaka here too, like Shuten, or is it just her being Gorgon that's driving her mad?
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>>4724682
I don`t want to ego death Medusa but I do think giving her certain superior concepts should strengthen her to be able to overcome Gorgon similar how she can be lost to madness of Gorgon as her normal self.
If you could give us at least some clarification on plausibility of this idea it would be really nice to avoid us riding off the cliff. I think at this point Shinji has an idea how it would work and I don`t want you to outright solve it for us, WhatIs, but I would appreciate some clarification similary how you did with our rune magecraft prior.
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>>4724666
>>Write-in...
>"Before we fight Gorgon, Medusa is there a mental version on Perseus anywhere nearby that we recruit to fight against Gorgon?"
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>>4724703
Is this viable? Because I'd vote for this.
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>>4724699
A lot of things are possible with it, but doing something like giving her the same abilities as Alítheia is not possible because to manipulate Truth, you need to be an existence born with it. Any attempt by anybody who doesn't fulfill that condition will end up being killed by their own power.
>>4724703
The mental world is only full of the souls of the people that the Gorgon ate.
She never ate Perseus, so he's not here.
Besides, if he was, then he would've already either made his move and killed or been killed by Gorgon.
>>4724694
That's a secret.
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>>4724724
In that case I will change my vote when a better choice comes along. It's a shame we probably won't see him unless Orochi decides to pull more servants.
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>>4724703
vote
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>>4724724
Thanks. Last question about it. Are we apperating here similarly to how we applying concept to Reality Marble or it is more of a manipulate Rider class container thing?
I would love to pay her back that Riding skill at least.
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>>4724735
This is a mental landscape, and this is a mental version of Rider, and empowerment done to her would be solely on the mental level. Though that's not to say you couldn't impove her physical strength her, seeing as it's a mental world.
That's your hint.
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Not many votes yet... calling in 45 minutes.
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>>4724740
Thanks again. I`ll try to think of something clever now.
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>>4724703
Support
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Oh, we hit bump limit.

>>4724733
I wouldn't be so sure.
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>>4724703
Seriously stop supporting this, the answer is "No."
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>>4724753
Ah wait shit I’m dumb and didn’t read the QM’s post. No Perseus so changing to

>>4724666
>"...if we could charge at it together on top of Pegasus, I'll form a Truth barrier around us as we charge! We'll be like an unstoppable gouging spear!"
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>>4724756
>>4724666
Changing to this, support

>>4724754
>I wouldn't be so sure
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>"...if we could charge at it together on top of Pegasus, I'll form a Truth barrier around us as we charge! We'll be like an unstoppable gouging spear!"
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>>4724666
Changing from >>4724679
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>"...if you would be willing to allow me to... alter you slightly. It won't take effect in the material world, but I believe that as this place is a mental construct, I could apply a concept directly onto you to help you fight." (What concept?)
>Concept of full power/perfect form/ideal form with an idea to give her access to full arsenal of NPs and skills her other versions had (Harpe and so on)
>Slap Counter Hero skill on it if possible too
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>>4724703
Support
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>>4724703
qm literally told us that he isn't here.
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>>4724666
>"...if we could charge at it together on top of Pegasus, I'll form a Truth barrier around us as we charge! We'll be like an unstoppable gouging spear!"
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>>4724666
>>"...if we could charge at it together on top of Pegasus, I'll form a Truth barrier around us as we charge! We'll be like an unstoppable gouging spear!"
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>>4724666
>"...if we could charge at it together on top of Pegasus, I'll form a Truth barrier around us as we charge! We'll be like an unstoppable gouging spear!"
Guys, Percy isn't here by word of god and Medusa fucking hates him anyways.
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>>4724785
Actually, Gorgon hates him.
Medusa feels no ressentment, and actually feels bad for the guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewvGINF0hPI
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>>4724789
No, she definitely hates him.
An unreleased line from FGO doesn't mean she doesn't hate him after we saw her directly compare him to Shinji in Hollow Ataraxia.
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"...if we could charge at it together on top of Pegasus, I'll form a Truth barrier around us as we charge! We'll be like an unstoppable gouging spear!" With any luck, you could even use the barrier to turn into a sort of drill type effect, to cause an even greater amount of damage! Yes, the manipulation of a plain barrier into a gouging weapon would definitely cause maybe even enough damage to kill the Gorgon in a single strike! Of course, the immortality the beast might still possess could end up being a problem under normal circumstances, but such immortality should be canceled out by the power of Truth! After all, Touko's concealed demon was a being that should've been impossible to kill or even injure, being foreign to such concepts. That thing was the sort of trap that could easily kill even a Servant if they aren't prepared to flee from a battle, regardless, even things such as immortality granted by the gods should fall when they are compared to your power over Truth.

"Are you... sure you're prepared to do something like that? If we fail, we'll both die at this point. The Gorgon has grown powerful enough at this point that it won't allow an escape for either of us." Medusa's voice is grave, and you can understand why. If Gorgon was powerful enough to hurt both Pegasus and herself, it means that it's strength must have already reached a level where Medusa by herself would barely even be able to act as a distraction to it.

"Medusa, I confronted the Gorgon once before for you, do you really think I'll step back from things now, when I'm this close to being able to save you?" Such a thought is ridiculous, not only are you not going to back out now, you're also pretty sure that you can't actually back out anyway, not unless you wanted to see if you could rip this whole mental world apart by reciting the incomplete verses of your Reality Marble, but that would certainly destroy Medusa. "Besides, with Pegasus by our side, I don't think failure will even be an option for us!" You pet the horse again, as it nuzzles against you.

"Actually, I've been meaning to ask... when did you become such good friends with Pegasus there? He's treating you with as much trust as he treats me!" Then she realizes when she takes a closer look at the proud beast. "You... healed his wounds, didn't you? That's why you were so confident in suggesting this plan!" Medusa walks over to the horse, which is happy to let her stroke it. Stheno and Euryale as still both remaining contemplatively quiet, good. Silence is golden, they'd do well to remember that.
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"Well, a little more than that happened, Medusa. I'm... actually, well... I don't know how to say this, but... I sort of... got a copy of your Riding skill from Pegasus when he... let me ride him. I think it might've been copied over from you." Pegasus' decision may end up immensely useful for you in the future. Not only does the skill that has been granted to you extend to him, but thanks to Alítheia's blessing, you'll actually be able to tame and ride dragons! Well, that is if you actually... come across any dragons. It's not like you would've needed the skill to ride atop Alítheia, and it's really not like even now you'd actually be able to truly control her even if you were to ride her. She's a step above the normal dragon, after all.

"Really?" Medusa doesn't sound at all displeased by you basically pilfering her skill at Riding. "Well, I suppose that we'll have to have a race at some point when we've sorted this all out!" She's smiling at you, fake confidence. But the smile that you return to her isn't fake. Medusa might think that defeating the Gorgon is impossible for her, but dealing with impossibilities is your specialty.

"Hah, I suppose we just might. But... time is ticking, Medusa. We... need to go now. I don't know how long it's been on the outside world since I was dragged in here, but I can only imagine that my magical energy out there is getting low." You do find it quite odd that the taxing usage of the Truth Barrier around you and Sakura on the outside world doesn't seem to really be taxing the magical energy that is available to you here. Perhaps it's a result of the surroundings mimicking that of the Age of Gods? That may just be the reason why you aren't feeling the drain from outside here... "Of course, while I'm confident about our plan, we need to decide whether we're going alone, or if we're taking Sakura with us." You look over to Sakura. While she doesn't like to fight, she's incredibly powerful. If your first assault fails to put an end to Gorgon, it might be worth having her nearby to assist.

"Ugh!" Medusa suddenly stumbles. "Well... whatever you want to do, we're going to do it now! The Gorgon... It's on the move!"

>Take Sakura with you to face the Gorgon.
>Leave Sakura at the temple.
>Take Sakura, but also take Stheno and Euryale. They may as well watch.
>Write-in...

>>4724792
It's more a pity hate, honestly. But having a good relationship with the guy who cut your head off and used it as a trophy is impossible for most people
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>>4724885
>Take Sakura, but also take Stheno and Euryale. They may as well watch.
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>>4724885
>Take Sakura, but also take Stheno and Euryale. They may as well watch.
Yeah, I remember she saying she didn't like him being used by the gods, but I don't think I would be able to be fine with the guy that murdered me that easily.
Although know I really hope Perseus shows up. Not like he had any animosity towards her, he was shitting himself with fear at the time. Maybe he'd apologize to her.
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>>4724885
Take Sakura, but also take Stheno and Euryale. They may as well watch
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>>4724885
>Take Sakura, but also take Stheno and Euryale. They may as well watch.
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>>4724885
>Take Sakura, but also take Stheno and Euryale. They may as well watch.
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>>4724638
The real dream, shishou deserves the love

>>4724885
>Take Sakura, but also take Stheno and Euryale. They may as well watch.
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Seems pretty unanimous
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>>4724943
Yeah.
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>>4724951
Based yeah poster
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>>4724953
Based based poster
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>>4724638
Didn't we kinda ruin Aoko's shounen h plan when we speedrunned Tsukihime? Shiki didn’t go through any development but got a nice set of eyes from us
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"Then we'll take everyone!" You'll take Sakura, of course, but there are two other people that... while they won't exactly be useful, you suppose that they could act as... moral support? Cheerleaders? A reminder to Medusa of the price of failure? Yeah, you don't really know what sort of a purpose the two of them will serve here. But it might be better to take them than to leave them, the Gorgon could attempt to overwhelm the temple with her snakes while Medusa is trying to fend her off.

"Wait, you can't mean..." Stheno says her first words for a while as you grab both of the sisters and place them into a princess carry at the same time, one stacked atop the other. "What are you doing you oaf! Let us down at once!" The eldest sister lets out an outraged squeak as you carry the two girls with all the care and attention that one would give to a sack of potatoes.

"Medusa. Pegasus is capable of holding all our weight at once, right?" You completely ignore the two squirming girls in your arms as Pegasus helps you out by lowering himself to let you get on. What a good horse. Seeing that their words aren't going to affect you, or even spur Medusa to their aid, the two of them simultaneously try to make themselves feel as heavy as possible by trying to become dead weight in your arms. They... really aren't very heavy though. You don't even need reinforcement to carry the two at once, you're more than strong enough naturally to do such a thing!

"Of course he is! My sisters tend to make a point of how light they are in comparison to me, so I don't think it will be a problem for them to come with us!" Medusa seems happy, but there's a pain behind her smile. Perhaps she's thinking something along the lines of 'at least I'll get to die alongside my sisters this time'? Still, she agreed to putting them in mortal danger really quite readily. Then again, it's not like it would be any safer in the temple without her, and should you fail in the battle against the Gorgon, then the fates of Stheno and Euryale's souls would be sealed. Medusa proceeds to help Sakura mount the horse as well, before she leaps atop her horse and a sparkling golden bridle and reins manifest. Bellerophon, a Noble Phantasm that enhances whatever creature it is placed upon by a great deal, while Medusa uses it in conjunction with Pegasus, enabling him to overcome his normally peaceful nature, there's not really any restriction on what it can be used on, as far as you understand. Though with the exception of perhaps a dragon, finding a mount of higher quality than the Pegasus isn't going to be easy.
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With the reins in hand, Medusa begins to make Pegasus trot forward, at a slow pace at first. "You better not drop us, you impolite brute!" Euryale whines at you. In truth, you would never have taken these girls with you like this before you gained skill equal to Medusa at Riding, not being able to actually hold on to the horse that can travel at sonic speed through the air would've been a death sentence for you. However, with your newfound Riding abilities thanks to the very horse you're sitting atop of, you are confident that even without using your hands to hold on, you won't be thrown off the animal. Especially not now that you notice that Rider has subtly but tightly draped a loop of chain around one of your ankles... and on the other ankle is a similar story, except there's a black and red ribbon wrapped around your ankle instead. Looks like neither of the two girls are willing to take the chance of you falling off of the back of the horse, even though you're wedged in between Sakura and Medusa, and falling would've been basically impossible anyway.

After a short trot, the winged horse breaks out into a gallop, before it unfurls it's mighty wings and takes to the sky! You can feel Sakura tightly grab hold of you as the horse starts to actually fly, and you get a view of the entire island, a beautiful serene looking paradise of- You pass through the barrier, and what was once a beautiful island paradise turns into a nightmarish hellscape of blood and death. "M-Medusa?! It... looked like this outside of the temple the entire time? One of the sisters in your arms is clearly more scared by the world around them then they are of being dropped. You suppose that for Medusa's sisters, who lived the epitome of a sheltered lifestyle, seeing something this unnerving would terrify them to their very cores! You have to admit, even you're a little on edge by the place, if you weren't capable of magic here, the blood oceans and powdered bone beaches would be more than a little bit terrifying, especially with Sakura by your side, even the thought of her being hurt is enough to make your heart beat a little faster.
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As the horse soars through the air, you quickly spot your target, she's not exactly... easy to miss. The Gorgon has yet to take on a full monstrous form, but despite looking like a buxom beautiful woman, even now you can tell from her unhinged and feral eyes that all of the higher thought processes in this mental world went to Medusa, and not her. Right now, the Gorgon is practically a mindless beast. As the Pegasus flies overhead, you realize that you might be able to get in a surprise attack now! Though you'll have to have Sakura take hold of the girls for a moment with her ribbons... and maybe lash herself to the Pegasus too. You suppose you could always set the extra passengers down a distance away though.

>Have Sakura hold Stheno and Euryale for a moment, ask Rider to charge at the Gorgon. You'll enhance the attack with a pointed barrier.
>Have Medusa set Pegasus down so that you can have Sakura, Stheno and Euryale get off. Not too far from the battle that Sakura won't be able to help, but far enough away that they aren't in imminent danger.
>Write-in...
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>>4724986
Have Sakura hold Stheno and Euryale for a moment, ask Rider to charge at the Gorgon. You'll enhance the attack with a pointed barrier
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>>4724986
>Have Sakura hold Stheno and Euryale for a moment, ask Rider to charge at the Gorgon. You'll enhance the attack with a pointed barrier
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>>4724986
>Have Sakura hold Stheno and Euryale for a moment, ask Rider to charge at the Gorgon. You'll enhance the attack with a pointed barrier.
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>>4724986
>Have Sakura hold Stheno and Euryale for a moment, ask Rider to charge at the Gorgon. You'll enhance the attack with a pointed barrier.
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>>4724986
>>Have Sakura hold Stheno and Euryale for a moment, ask Rider to charge at the Gorgon. You'll enhance the attack with a pointed barrier.


Gorgon breaker? Meet GIGA TRUTH DURIRU BURAIKA
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>>4724986
>Have Sakura hold Stheno and Euryale for a moment, ask Rider to charge at the Gorgon. You'll enhance the attack with a pointed barrier.
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>>4724986
>>Have Sakura hold Stheno and Euryale for a moment, ask Rider to charge at the Gorgon. You'll enhance the attack with a pointed barrier.
Well, we can always jump off of and cushion their fall if something goes bad
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>>4724986
>Have Sakura hold Stheno and Euryale for a moment, ask Rider to charge at the Gorgon. You'll enhance the attack with a pointed barrier.

It we do this WhatIs.

THIS BETTER PLAY
https://youtu.be/5EXFilTUiko
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>>4725055
Flight of the valkyries
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I hope we find a good guy for Medusa. I feel like we might’ve hit the limit for wives for now, and even though I want to wife Medusa I think it’s best to have a limit. Who knows, maybe Waver could use an actual love interest
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>>4725078
99/100
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>>4725078
Didn't Waver belong to Reines or something?
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>>4725078
You should have thought of that before we barged in her mind, lifted her up from despair and made sure she knows we find her more attractive than the sisters she's been comparing herself with all her life. Besides, Sakura and Medusa are a package deal.

Speaking of Sakura, I hope you guys realise it's only a matter of time before she's had enough with our antics, ties us down with her ribbons of Nullification and completely drains us dry.

>>4725083
Yes, Waver definitely belongs to Reines.
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>>4725078
We just did exactly that.
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>>4725078
Medusa was apart of the 13 girls that sent us love letters (Monica was suspiciously absent but Medusa who wasn't in love with us just yet was)

>>4725083
>>4725078
Taiga or Reines, whichever one works, we have a pretty good track record of setting people up considering that Shirou is engaged and we nudged Shiki towards the incest route. We can send SHIKI off to the Oni village so he can be the harem king there
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>>4724986
>Have Sakura hold Stheno and Euryale for a moment, ask Rider to charge at the Gorgon. You'll enhance the attack with a pointed barrier.
ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWER!! ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWER!!
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>>4725096
>Monica was suspiciously absent
Not a great idea to go to a water park when you might electrocute everyone and yourself.
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>tfw your only options are letting the women in your life die/suffer or leading them on in horrible psudo-romantic relationships for their own good.
Being Shinji is so hard.
It's so hard and nobody fucking understands!
Well, maybe Monica. She read the writing on the wall since he was fucking 8 and opted out as much as possible.
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>>4725101
>Medea
>Sakura
>Arcueid
>Mordred
>Medusa
>Touko
>Illya
>Tamamo
>Satsuki
>Shuten
>Giselle
>Ciel
>Rin

That's 13. Without Monica, thank fuck.
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>>4725081
Well I guess we gotta wife her.
I wanted to anyways and just thought we might have to put a wife limit up but I guess what’s done is done
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>>4725101
>giving up homefield advantage
This is why she lost to Touko and why she was about to lose to Aoko

>>4725113
Monica must have experience if she could just eyeball an 8 year old and tell he's gonna have lady troubles
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>>4725118
Yeah, it looked like she was speaking from experience when she told pursuing multiple girls wouldn't end well.

I wonder what she'll say after we save her from the autist in her head.
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>>4725122
gone for a week and Shinji went from leading on his sister and his childhood friend to leading on 13 girls including that one girl who was rude and antagonistic toward him the entire time Monica was there with him
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>>4725127
I don't think Rin likes Shinji like that, she's just friendly now that he humiliated himself in front of her and helped her.
Unless that was enought to 99/100 her, which wouldn't surprise me with how easy it seems to be.
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>>4725081
i gotta ask, why only 99/100? What's with not going to 100/100? Especially Sakura who straight up doesn't want anything other than to live with her onii-chan forever

>>4725088
>Speaking of Sakura, I hope you guys realise it's only a matter of time before she's had enough with our antics, ties us down with her ribbons of Nullification and completely drains us dry.
Shinjibowl happens after HGW, the pool date was a prelude to it
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I can feel WhatIs' personal affections for Medusa and distain for her sisters through these updates.
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>>4725130
I've long thought that Rin had a much higher opinion of Shinji than what was stated in the relationship charts. WhatIs always emphasized that these where Shinji's thoughts, not necessarily the objective reality. Us helping her just when she lost her high jumper to a surprise contender was just the final push.

>>4725132
Is there literally a single one here who disagrees with those feelings?
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>>4725134
The length and depth of the update dialogue seems a lot more than normal.

I wonder if Riding A+ was actually provided so Shinji can physically survive the Shinjibowl now.
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>>4725135
Eh, I'm thoroughly enjoying the dialogue.

And I don't see how it would save us. What we need is Battle Continuation A+.
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>>4725135
Honestly.....I believe it. How the fuck else would he survive without either an insane boost to regeneration or an insane boost to reinforcement
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>>4725130
She sent him a love letter and was trying nab him like everyone. I don't think its full blown 99/100 but I think she has a big crush on Shinji, I think she always had something of a crush and always felt she always owed him for everything that he did for Sakura (kinda mimics her relationship with Shirou) and for pushing her to be apart of her life.

Rin has a huge ego though, is petty, has a hard time processing her emotions and she had a genuine chip on her shoulder about Shinji because he has everything that she wanted and strived for (Sakura's love, absurd Magus powers and knowledge, respect from top tier Magus) but the magical girl incident finally cooled her off both because she finally got one over on Shinji and because she's a raging bisexual and thought fem!Shinji looked hot
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>>4725137
That can be Hero Creationed over from Shuten. It might even be the only use of Hero Creation in the story and in true Arthurian fashion, was just used for the sake of COOOOMing like Merlin's dick maker.
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>>4725143
>she is capable of using this skill to temporarily copy and grant a Class Skill or the majority of Personal Skills from one Servant to another.
We are not a Servant.
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>>4725147
I think you're the first person to notice that considering all the talk about giving Shinji Self-Modification and or Battle Continuation early on.
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>>4725143
gonna need to convince Alitheia for a blood transfer and ask Merlin how he got away with it
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>>4725134
Yes
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>>4725132
I actually like Medusa's sisters
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>>4725156
Oh so you like bullying
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>>4725159
Shinji leaks out whenever his ego is hurt or if he has the chance to bully
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>>4725159
What red-blooded male doesn't love bullying the shit out of a cute girl?
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just realized that Kerry is probably gonna shoot us cause Illya has a crush on us and we're leading on like 12 other women
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>>4725179
We've saved his life twice, given him his daughter back and will probably pull his wife out of the Grail. If he DARES to be angry we'll have no choice but to erase him from existence.
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>>4725182
your expecting a lot for a father to not get mad at that sorta situation, especially considering that we have 3 daughters now
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>>4725179
It's better than the alternative
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>>4725179
Also he was fucking Maiya constantly while married to Iri he can't say shit
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>>4725189
its called being an edgy hypocrite anon
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>>4725185
A father in general yes. Kiritsugu in particular has less than zero legs to stand on.

>>4725189
I was just writing about this.

>>4725186
Could be worse.
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>>4724986
>>Have Sakura hold Stheno and Euryale for a moment, ask Rider to charge at the Gorgon. You'll enhance the attack with a pointed barrier
KAMIKAZE
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>>4725186
Kerry should be more horrified that the einsbern taught illya to sit on boy's laps lewdly like that.
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>>4725134
affection rating is from Shinji's PoV, Lugh and Touko had feelings for him but the affection rating was still ??? for both of them
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>>4725246
wrong
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>>4725246
I still wonder why lugh likes us the only meaningful interaction we had with him aside from roa was the fight.
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>>4725267
reminded him of when he got dom'd by big dick Soujuurou
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"Sakura! Take hold of Stheno and Euryale for a second!" You yell to the girl behind you, and wait for a few moments before those black tendrils of energy made solid of hers start to wrap around the two girls you're currently holding slowly taking their weight off of you as Sakura makes sure that she's capable of holding them.

""What are you doing now, you brute?! You aren't planning on dropping us, are you?!"" Two voices cry out in unison, and at that exact moment you remove your arms from underneath them, trusting Sakura's ability to use her ribbons to carry them. They scream in panic for a few seconds as they think they are going to drop, but soon stop when they realize they aren't plummeting to their deaths. Honestly, how did Medusa put up with these two for so long? It's no wonder she ended up losing her mind and eating the two of them. Though honestly, for as annoying as you find the two girls, they are people who are very dear to Medusa. Though it's not like she doesn't seem to enjoy seeing the two girls finally get a taste of their own medicine. Medusa isn't exactly... racing to their defense against your bullying and teasing.

Medusa has stopped the Pegasus in mid-air, so she's clearly well aware of just what's going on behind her. You're glad she stopped the horse's movement, the lack of massive air resistance has of course made it much easier for Sakura to lift the two girls who at this point kind of look like they trapped in a black and red striped sleeping bag with each other, any attempt to struggle is rendered completely pointless, and... it looks like Sakura might've made the bindings just tight enough to be slightly uncomfortable for the two girls. You'd normally tell her no to be so cruel on the two girls, but... well, somebody needs to humble them, and you're glad that Sakura is standing up for her Servant as well, if not so... directly as you stood up for Medusa. Eventually, the two of them are securely being held by Sakura... or rather, she's using her ribbons to avoid actually having to carry them. She'd probably do well not to realize that she could probably use those ribbons for most anything she wanted, Rin is of the belief that Sakura doesn't get enough exercise as it is, and having her start using magic to get anything she wants without physically moving is bound to end up with Rin getting all high-and-mighty about not properly instilling good behaviour into her.
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"Alright! Good job, Sakura!" You can't see her, but you can tell that the girl is probably beaming you a bright smile right now, this must be how Rider feels sometimes, speaking of. "Medusa! Start the charge!" You begin to call forth a great deal of your magical energy as you begin the process of forming a large bubble of truth to follow you as you move, or rather a bubble to follow Pegasus. You can feel your magical energy beginning to drain really rather quickly even here as a result of creating such a large bubble of truth around yourself and your allies. Stheno and Euryale are quiet as they look at the bubble, and even Rider herself seems to be amazed by the manifested energy. "I can't keep something like this up for long!" You yell for Rider to hurry up with her charge, as you begin to reshape the barrier around you, ending up with a pointed object that looks somewhat like a drill. "Now, Rider!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EXFilTUiko

"Understood! Let's go, Pegasus!" The Pegasus you're sitting atop raises itself high into the sky, glowing with power as it does, and the tip of the drill-barrier remains squarely pointed at its target, namely the unaware Gorgon down below.

>Roll 1d1000
>1 Roll per ID will be counted
>DC: 6000
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Rolled 543 (1d1000)

>>4725342
TAKE MY ENERGY!

It's a sum of everything we roll, right?
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Rolled 116 (1d1000)

>>4725342
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>>4725342
>DC: 6000
HOW MANY ROLLS WHAT?
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>>4725349
Yeah.
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>>4725342

Making me figure out how to dice here WhatIs
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>>4725352
So long as they aren't obviously samefagged, I'll accept them.
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>>4725359
well i assume this is the last update for the day so fingers crossed
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>>4725360
It is.
Good night, and good luck.
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>>4725342
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>>4725366
cursed
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>>4725367
Im not even mad anymore, this is just my average roll now.
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>>4725366
well we're at 3017 so halfway there
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Rolled 835 (1d1000)

>>4725342
happy Easter folks...
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>>4725366
>>4725368
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Rolled 717 (1d1000)

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>>4725392
Eh fuck it
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>>4725380
>>4725387
>>4725391
>>4725392
Why are you trying to cheat you morons
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pussy
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you guys do know that qm sees those deleted rolls right?
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>>4725396
It's called a mulligan
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your some impatient fucks you know that right? we have 12 fucking hours to get to 6000 and we only need 2000 left, have some fucking patience
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>>4725342
Eat this alter ego!
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Rolled 274 (1d1000)

>>4725342
Let's go
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Rolled 478 (1d1000)

>>4725342
Let’s try this again
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Rolled 447 (1d1000)

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Rolled 378 (1d1000)

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>>4725406
It's just one moron as far as I can tell. And seriously, the DC was too low for our Blessed dice.
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>>4725342
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>>4725342
>he actually put Solario Days in there
THANK YOU BASED WHATIS.

THIS DRILL OF TRUTH. THIS DRILL IS THE DRILL THAT WILL PIERCE THE GORGON!!!!!
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I think that's enough. Unless someone is samefagging.
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Rolled 740 (1d1000)

>>4725428
>>4725342
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we made it over 6000 btw
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>>4725438
Noice
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>>4725437
>>4725428
you could at least be more fucking sneaky with your samefagging
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>>4725438
KEEP GOING!
We never know if there’s some kind of skill this Gorgon has and overkill is probably the best idea
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>>4725442
yeah keep rolling just in case
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>>4725442
Also, there has been some amount of cheating and samefagging for some reason. Let's overkill this shit. THIS PEGASUS HAS NO BRAKES.
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What is this faggotry I see? Stop deleting your rolls!
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Rolled 408 (1d1000)

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Rolled 160 (1d1000)

>>4725342
May the good times...Roll.
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Rolled 415 (1d1000)

>>4724785 is me
>>4725342
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>>4725440
I messed up my roll
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We are at 8361.
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Keep'em coming, go higher.
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Rolled 56 (1d1000)

>>4725342
Lurking streak broken
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>>4725647
Sigh, this is why I never post
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>>4725342
WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK WE ARE?!
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Rolled 760 (1d1000)

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Rolled 493 (1d1000)

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More rolls!

Touch the untouchable
Break the unbreakable
Row row fight the power!

Believe in me who believes in natural 1000!
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Rolled 370 (1d1000)

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>>4725342
here goes nothing
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>>4725900
Hey, not bad!
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>>4725342
We gotta headpat Medusa too after all this is over.
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>>4725368
>>4725653
Don't worry bros, we need someone to soak up the bad luck.
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>>4725943
999/100 Medusa soon.
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>>4725956
inb4 we drill through something in physics so we suddenly go so fast that we just evaporate the gorgon from how insane the speed is.

Instant SPLOOSH from medusa, who's never been at that velocity until then
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>>4725964
Medusa is an adrenaline junkie, she loves going fast. One of the first things she said when Shinji mentioned having yoinked her Riding skill is RACE YA
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>>4725966
Make it Space Race.
Time to get Makiri Industries into asteroid mining.
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Rolled 627 (1d1000)

>>4725342
Time for this lurker to post.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0V7aUT13qtM

Medusa begins the charge downwards, the Gorgon finally noticing the attack coming from the skies, the great golden drill manifested in the air being completely unmissable, especially for something as observant as the Gorgon is. The woman might be a nearly mindless monster, but that doesn't mean she hasn't kept her instincts at least, and right now, they must be screaming out for her to look up to the sky.

"Now! Rider!" You yell out as you begin to command the manifested Truth to spin around, completing the drill effect as you speed downwards, speeds surpassing the usual limits of the Pegasus in this mental world, the sound barrier is broken, but acceleration continues to increase.

"Vanish forever, Gorgon! Bellerophon!" The Gorgon looks up at the attacking target, and in that moment, it activates Pandemonium Cetus, a large magic seal immediately forming in front of her face, the full power that can be directed to encompass an entire city being focused into a single beam in an attempt to destroy the attackers, a level of power than can harm even Tiamat, though it doesn't even begin to damage the Drill of Truth.

The drill pierces straight through the black energy projected from the beam of Pandemonium Cetus, shredding even the black draining energy of Pandemonium Cetus to pieces as it spins. Gorgon realizes her mistake at this very moment, as the supersonic drill continues to fly towards her, and it tries to move out of the way of your attack. Much too late for that!

"Everyone! Hold on!" Medusa gives one last warning as the point of the drill is moments from piercing its target. The Gorgon only just manages to avoid being hit straight in the face by the colossal drill, though despite the size of the spinning Drill of Truth, it is only about half the size of the Gorgon's upper body. Already, she had reached a truly gigantic size that couldn't be appreciated from a distance where you couldn't truly understand just how large she was. Still, though it manages to whip its head out of the way of complete obliteration, the drill of sparkling golden energy still pierces straight through the torso of the monstrous woman, shredding apart its target as easily as a mundane drill would shred apart soft wood.
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The Gorgon gives out a scream of pain as the huge drill blasts straight through her chest, destroying the heart of the beast with damage that is impossible for something to heal with something like 'immortality' Of course, the damage the charge doesn't end there! "Now! at the exact moment that you pass through the chest of the Gorgon and have confirmed that the heart of the creature has been destroyed, you will the drill barrier to explode into shrapnel, propelled by the energy of Pegasus' charge finally being released. The explosion of Pegasus' charge occurring within the Gorgon's own body, sending hundreds of pieces of your energy slicing through her body like a particularly powerful fragmentation grenade. The blinding flash of white light from the charge of energy disappears after a few seconds, and already, Medusa has landed Pegasus, turning it around to face the Gorgon once more.

The creature is thrashing around in agony. Death throes as it tries to comprehend the attack that it was just slain by. You're just glad that it isn't capable of any sort of speech, you feel bad enough killing it as it is, seeing as it looks like a gigantic version of Medusa, though even now you can tell that it had almost completely managed to take on the form of a monster. Had it actually managed to succeed in its objective of consuming Medusa or her sisters, it would've been almost impossible to see it as a human.

"We... actually did it." Medusa sounds kind of dumbstruck as she looks at the Gorgon thrashing about in pain as its body begins to fall apart and blood seeps from almost a hundred holes in the creatures body. You dismiss the energy that was left inside the beast, it has already done the damage it was required to, so there's no point in keeping it draining your magical energy at an immense rate. As you dismiss the energy, the Gorgon finally slumps to the floor, dead. "It's... really dead!" Medusa gets off of Pegasus to observe the body of her dead alternate personality, wanting to make sure that it's truly dead.

"That's right, Medusa. We've-" The body of the gorgon starts to dissolve into black light, which seems to start flowing towards Medusa who freezes up as she sees the darkness heading towards her. "Medusa?!" You get off the horse, whatever that energy is, it can't be good news! You begin to run towards Medusa as the energy starts to flow into her.

"It's... Gorgon! She's... Trying to take control!" Medusa stumbles backwards. Damn it!

>Try to reach Medusa to shield her with a barrier, cut off the rest of the flow!
>Try to reach Medusa, hug her, tell her she's stronger than the Gorgon is.
>Kiss Medusa when you reach her. Tell her that you won't let her fall to the evil again.
>Run past Medusa, draw the energy of the Gorgon into yourself instead.
>Write-in...
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Draw...the Gorgon energy into us? Now that's galaxy brain.

Is that gambling on our immunity to Mental Interference dunking on it?
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hmmm, do we want to keep Gorgon around?

It's a part of her, it's powerful and Gorgon/Ana herself gains full control of her powerset after she confronts herself in Babylonia. So she can manage it given enough character development.

Previous update also said that Manaka couldn't influence the Gorgon so it should be pure BOOBA snek at this point.
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>>4726026
>Tell Medusa that you won't let her fall to the evil again.
>Run past Medusa, draw the energy of the Gorgon into yourself instead.
Blessed Circuits+Beloved of Alaya+sixth verse of our Reality Marble makes us much more resistant to any such effects.
Sakura could probably do it too and even better than us but I would rather avoid her eating anything spice like Gorgon.
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>>4726030
I prefer the normal Medusa for... reasons. The Gorgon is powerful, but not worth the cost.
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>>4726029
Self Replenishment (mana) makes Kaleidostar basically redundant too.

Mental protection should block the edgelord mental state of any other Avenger class skills clouding Shinji's personality.

Potentially comes with Monstrous Strength and maybe even Cybele. There's also one other hidden NP on her sheet.
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>>4726026
>Try to reach Medusa, hug her, tell her she's stronger than the Gorgon is.
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>>4726035
Do we just get the skills if we absorb the energy though? I don't want to turn into a giant snake.
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>>4726034
I wonder if we absorb her do we have some Riza style BOOBA voice in our head telling us to murder things.

>>4726026

>>4726033
Worth a shot, shouldn't be any mental pollution from this.

>>4726038
Shinji has a very specific set form due to Truth, it'd be a Magical Lamia transformation at worst.
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>>4726026
>Run past Medusa, draw the energy of the Gorgon into yourself instead

I am up fro trying to gain benefits by using what we have. I think we can prooobably(?) do this.
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>>4726026
>Try to reach Medusa, hug her, tell her she's stronger than the Gorgon is.
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Assuming Kaleidostar reinforcement can be stacked with Gorgon's strength we could run up to, autistically screech at Orochi with Scream of Fear and then manhandle it into submission like some mega Grug which would be pretty funny.

Also, Demonic Mutation is a package of both B Battle Continuation AND Self Modification at B rank which are things we've been looking at getting Shinji somehow for ages. Truth Form should offset any negative effects from this unless this somehow undoes Shinji's conceptual form at the base level somehow?
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>>4726039
>it'd be a Magical Lamia transformation at worst.
I am not so sure about it.
As strong as Gorgon is she is nowhere near power of Second to have any drastic influence on us like willingly using Amethyst could do.
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>>4726044
You're making a lot of assumptions here.
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>>4726026
>Try to reach Medusa, hug her, tell her she's stronger than the Gorgon is.
Medusa keeping Gorgon's power while still sane would be cool.
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If Beloved of Alaya can protect against stuff like Heaven's Hole, I don't believe some Gorgon juice is gonna effect us.

I would be more wary if we had Divinity that could go down but not as it is desu. Even if we dont get everything, or even most of Gorgon, as it is like a split of Medusa right now, it still could be really good.

If its actually a lot of Gorgon thats even better.
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>>4726046
Yes

I'm just going off Gorgon's A++ Strength vs Orochi's A+++ though, it's likely whatever power boost she has from Manaka will fade and it wouldn't be a 1:1 conversion if there is any transfer at all upon absorption.

I wouldn't be surprised if this is a dead end choice honestly, but it has a lot of hypothetical upsides so it's worth the risk, probably.

Although Snake Style with Gorgon buffs would be very interesting.
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>>4726053
>Although Snake Style with Gorgon buffs would be very interesting.
Killing Arts (Gorgon).
Final evolution of Snake Style and Bajiquan.
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>>4726055
and the alternative style, Killing Arts (Orochi)
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>>4726053
>I wouldn't be surprised if this is a dead end choice honestly
You're choosing to ignore the potential that it's worse than that.
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>>4726060
This was a ploy by Manaka to get inside Shinji?
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>>4726058
>Bajiquan is a style that takes the shortest route to the opponent without showing any initial movement to damage the inside of the body instead of the outside. It is a martial art that teaches both armed and unarmed forms; the use of a spear in Liu He Da Qiang is the most famous after its bare-handed form.
Mix it with normal Killing Arts techniques.
Cybele strikes which can turn people into stone from inside out, our own buffed up Harpe.
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>>4726026
Try to reach Medusa, hug her, tell her she's stronger than the Gorgon is.
>Kiss Medusa when you reach her. Tell her that you won't let her fall to the evil again
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>>4726060
I just find it weird you would offer such a cursed option if that was the case, when we'll assume we're immune against mental damage from it. You're activating my paranoia now because of your cryptic warnings before bad ends.
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>>4726061
>>4726065
I think we could end up absorbing Medusa`s sins so to speak. And with it could come some parts of her memories being a monster.
Real Saver moment right here.
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>>4726026
>Try to reach Medusa, hug her, tell her she's stronger than the Gorgon is.
>Encourage Sakura and Medusa's sisters to do the same if they somehow don't do it on their own.
I don't want to steal Medusa's thunder. She'll need the support of all the people she cares for to power through. It would be unfortunate if this caused her to stay a giant snake in reality, but we'll deal with it if it happens.

>>4726065
Wouldn't be the first time an option is a trap. Won't be the last, I wager.
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>>4726065
Remember Shuten?
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>>4726066

>The sixth verse is "A perfect world of my own creation." Upon being invoked, Shinji's body will be immediately restored to a perfect condition no matter its previous condition. At this level, the magical energy cost is great enough that Shinji may pass out as a result of reciting it.

This is why I opt to just go balls deep into otherwise risky options because I assume we have an absolute failsafe right here.

Maybe the safer play is to, instead of a truth wall, trap the Gorgon goo in a bubble and speak to Medusa about it first. Does she want to accept this part of herself inside her again, would she prefer we take it? The Gorgon has a right to live, and Shinji knows about how Ana was able to take on this form and control it in Babylonia to stand up to Tiamat so I doubt he'd want it destroyed entirely.
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>>4726026
>>4726043
>Try to reach Medusa, hug her, tell her she's stronger than the Gorgon is.
>Encourage Sakura and Medusa's sisters to do the same if they somehow don't do it on their own.
Changing to this.
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>>4726070
I admit I don't understand how Shuten relates to the situation here.
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>>4726026
>Try to reach Medusa, hug her, tell her she's stronger than the Gorgon is.
>Encourage Sakura and Medusa's sisters to do the same if they somehow don't do it on their own.
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>>4726071
>I assume we have an absolute failsafe right here.
Yeah, I feel the same here.
It will be pretty funny to have:
Granda — Orochi
Sister — Tiamat
Daughter — Dragon of Truth
And Shinji — Gorgon
It runs in the family you would say.
>Maybe the safer play is to, instead of a truth wall, trap the Gorgon goo in a bubble and speak to Medusa about it first.
If she has Manaka`s contract we could probably kiss it away using this moment and general confusion.
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>>4726026
>>4726047
>Try to reach Medusa, hug her, tell her she's stronger than the Gorgon is.
>Encourage Sakura and Medusa's sisters to do the same if they somehow don't do it on their own.
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>>4726070
The Divine wine was pretty funny though, I don't know what people expected as iirc that happened pre Ibuki release.

Although we still have no idea what the contract was here so maybe immediately taking it in would be a bit too retarded.

Cutting off the flow probably leaves her with some remnants of Gorgon's power but at a reduced capacity.

Hug-no-jutsu may help her fight it off and gain full control, but we also risk contract hijinks or full Gorgon takeover.

Kiss is as above but also for more affection points
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>>4726076
>>4726081
Oh, right, the divine wine. I was wracking my brain trying to figure out what our recent encounter with Shuten had in common.

I'm worried that cutting off the flow will cause it to seek a different host, someone else from the family, and Sakura will have to eat it to protect them.
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>>4726026
changing >>4726039
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>Trap the Gorgon's energy in a bubble of Truth, while dashing forward to Medusa, telling her you won't let her fall to evil again. Kiss her as you make contact, scanning her for any trace of a contract in the confusion this makes and read it properly before destroying it.

We missed our chance to fully read that enemies list with Shuten. We can give Medusa a choice in regards to the contained Gorgon's residual energy in the next update, assuming this works. If there's no contract present we know its inside the Gorgon and the energy is likely cursed.
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>>4726026
>>Try to reach Medusa, hug her, tell her she's stronger than the Gorgon is.


>>4726081
>I don't know what people expected
I personally expected booze good enough to affect a deity, not one that literally turns imbiber into one
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>>4726082
Hadn't thought of that but yeah, it might make a giant smug creature which would be horrifying.

Bubble contains it to open up time for a dialogue at least.
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>>4726089
Bubble's not a bad idea, but I'm sure Medusa would opt for self-sacrifice again, as she always has. I trust in the power of the grouphug.

And since we're in Medusa's mind, I think Manaka's contract is a physical object somewhere. Probably at the bottom of the Gorgon's cave.
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I just think deleting Gorgon entirely wouldn't be great in character, due to Shinji's knowledge of Babylonia's events, but also it has uses even as goo. Asclepius' serum of True Immortality requires Gorgon blood which Shinji is aware of. Medea knew him via the Argo, we might be able to whip up something to preserve Ilya using it.

Absorption is probably a bad idea as is though, as the skill Demonic Mutation specifically is a concept based on the decline of a hero into a demon. Maybe this is the caveat WhatIs was warning about. It might be something that tilts Shinji into a Beast?
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>>4726026
>>Kiss Medusa when you reach her. Tell her that you won't let her fall to the evil again.
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>>4726026
>Kiss Medusa when you reach her. Tell her that you won't let her fall to the evil again.
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>>4726026
Switching from >>4726033
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>Kiss Medusa when you reach her. Tell her that you won't let her fall to the evil again.
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You're not going to let Medusa fall like this! You reinforce your legs, running as fast as you can towards the woman as the flow of dark energy continues streaming directly into her body. She's struggling to keep standing now, but you manage to close the distance to the woman before it can fully take her over. You wrap your arms around Medusa in a tight hug, and you begin to whisper quietly. "Medusa... You're stronger than the Gorgon is. You don't have to let it control you any more. You're the more powerful one, the Gorgon is just a monster. A bad dream given a form. You can't let yourself be controlled by it." You speak quickly but reassuringly as you take Medusa's weight onto yourself, supporting her so that she doesn't collapse.

"Sh-Shinji..." Medusa almost falls forwards onto you, struggling to speak.

"Shh, don't speak, Medusa. Just... focus on fighting it. I know you can do it. You can't let it beat you again. I... I won't let it happen!" You hug the woman tightly as the energy continues to flow into her, and she seems to regain a little bit of strength.

"Yeah, Medusa! You can't let that dumb snake take you over!" One of her sisters finally makes her way towards you and Medusa, hugging her sister tightly, just as you are hugging her. "We... We remember everything that happened now. Ever since we left that barrier, the memories came flooding back. So please! Don't... Don't leave us again!" The little girl, finally showing some true compassion for her sister, pleads with her to remain strong. Seems like learning from past mistakes isn't impossible, even for Medusa's sisters.

"I agree with myself, you're the... strongest person we know, Medusa." The other sister begins to hug her sister this time. "We're with you this time. You... You don't have to struggle alone anymore." She too says some reassuring words to her sister. "Even if... we'll be alone when you leave this place, I'm... glad that we got to see you once again." Stheno and Euryale must have become aware of the true nature of where they are. Yet even so, they are choosing to sacrifice themselves for Medusa's sake, choosing to once again be separated from their dear sister, just to give her a chance at life. Maybe... Maybe you misjudged these two little brats a little.

"Rider! I'm... I'm with you as well!" The last person to join the hug is of course, Sakura. Who holds the woman in a hug almost as tight as your own. "We're all with you, Medusa! You can beat this! I know you can! I know how strong you are!" Sakura gives her own words of encouragement to Medusa as the last of the dark energy finishes flowing into the body of the woman.
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"Everyone..." Medusa closes her eyes and a dark energy begins to emanate from her. It's all up to Medusa now. You bet everything on her being able to control this darkness, so now you can only hope that your encouraging words were enough for her to defeat her inner demons for herself, once and for all. "Thank you." The dark energy emanating from her body suddenly turns white, before it is reabsorbed into her, and a great shining light encompasses all of you as you hold Medusa. You're forced to shut your eyes for a few seconds to avoid scorching your eyes.

Eventually though, the fact that you get to reopen them is evidence of your complete success in getting Medusa back in control of herself. The woman giving off a much different aura now. Something... very strange has happened to Medusa. "Sorry, but could I ask the four of you to give me a moment?" Her voice is steady now. "This is important." She breaks out of the hug, before walking a few meters from the four of you. Everyone is confused by Medusa's sudden actions, and while it doesn't look like she's struggling against the Gorgon anymore, there's clearly something weighing on her mind.

Of course, what you weren't expecting was for Medusa to suddenly summon a piece of paper directly into her hands, wait a second, that's...!

Medusa tears the sheet of paper in half before she absolutely shreds the remaining halves into thousands of tiny little pieces. You would've liked to have read Manaka's contract fully, but obviously, it might've actually come into effect on Medusa, so you're glad it was shredded. "Ah... sorry, everyone... I just had to make sure that I wasn't going to fall under the control of the girl. Suffused into the existence of the Gorgon were those foul commandments, and I didn't know how long I had until that part of myself fell under her control again." Medusa then proceeds to laugh. Before a flash of light encompasses her, and suddenly standing in her place is a version of her that has shrunk down in size to her sisters height. "Thanks to you four, I... managed to properly take control over just what she did to my body, and now... now I can protect everyone I care about." The girl has a smile on her face, before once again a flash of light causes her to transform, this time, she grows taller than she was before, about a whole two feet taller. "Even if I have to use the strength of the Gorgon to do it." Stheno and Euryale, despite their obvious fear of this Pseudo-Gorgonic form that Medusa has taken, try not to let it show. As the Gorgon, Medusa still has a set of humanoid legs, but at the same time has a long snake tail, though her body has far more monstrous traits in the form of the Gorgon. Eventually, Medusa returns to her original form. "Shinji, I feel like I should ask, do you have a preference over which of my forms I should stay in after we've left?"

[Status Updated!]
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W-wait! Why is she asking you that?! And... 'all left'? she couldn't be talking about her sisters as well, could she? You were planning on maybe getting them out later, but Medusa seems to be under the belief that you're all going to be leaving at once!

>"I prefer you as you currently are, actually. I think you're most beautiful like this."
>"I'm going to need you to use the power of the Gorgon. It's crucial you are at your strongest at all times."
>"You've always dreamed of looking as young as your sisters, right? You should stay as Medusiana."
>"I think you're beautiful no matter what form you take."
>Write-in...
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>"I think you're beautiful no matter what form you take."
I like all of them.
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>>4726161
>>4726158
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>>4726158
>"I think you're beautiful no matter what form you take."
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>>4726156
>"I think you're beautiful no matter what form you take."
It's cheesy but it's not a lie.
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>>4726158
>>"I think you're beautiful no matter what form you take."
Happiness
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>>4726158
>"I prefer you as you currently are, actually. I think you're most beautiful like this."
I'm sorry, but I do have a preference.

And yes, believe in the power of the hug!
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>>4726158
"I think you're beautiful no matter what form you take."
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>>4726158
>"I think you're beautiful no matter what form you take."
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>>4726158
>"I think you're beautiful no matter what form you take."
Supporting telling her that we like all of them.
Although
>Immortal Slaying Scythe - Harpe: A Rank Anti-Divine Noble Phantasm (Medusiana)
>A weapon that would normally take on a more spear-like form, yet due to Medusiana's preferences, has taken the form of a scythe attached to a chain, Harpe is the weapon that was originally used to slay the Gorgon, because Medusiana is the polar opposite of the Gorgon, she has been granted the weapon that was once used to kill her. All magical healing is impossible to those struck by this weapon, a curse that prevents all but natural healing is inflicted upon it's targets. In addition, this weapon can cut through any form of divinely granted protection or immortality. A weapon that could even kill the Gods.
This kills the Wormpa.
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>>4726177
Medusiana is a deity though, she should be affected by Orochi's Nega-Deity.
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>>4726158
>>"I think you're beautiful no matter what form you take."
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>>4726182
Another loli for the harem
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>>4726182
>Class: Lancer/Rider/Avenger
>Personal Skills: (All)
>Three Faces: EX

Jesus, 3 servants in one. Who is left to give a crazy upgrade to?
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>>4726182
Do you really expect anyone to say no?
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>>4726182
Yes, her being able to change form offers intereseting possibilities in bed.
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>>4726179
Oh, yeah. Shame.
Giving her Shroud probably won`t let her hide from it too.
>>4726182
Yes. It was really nice update. I am glad that Medusa is saved.
But
>Run past Medusa, draw the energy of the Gorgon into yourself instead.
How this would have ended?
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>>4726184
>Who is left to give a crazy upgrade to?
Monica and Bazett keeping their power up. Maybe Cu too. And however we decide to give dragon blood once Alithea is mature enough to give us her consent.
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>>4726188
>How this would have ended?
In a way that would have ended poorly for both you and Medusa.
Pseudo-Servant
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>>4726191
Toddlers can give consent now you know
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>>4726193
Ooooh.
Can you show Status Page for it?
And how would she pay her rent?
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>>4726196
>Can you show Status Page for it?
Maybe next Carnival, I'll do something like a quick session where I make What-If Status Pages for Shinji and other characters.
Shinji would be pretty strong though, I will reveal.
I might even make the What-If page for Dead Apostle Shinji.
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>>4726158
>"I think you're beautiful no matter what form you take."
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>>4726200
Cool. I have high hopes for it.
Also would that meant that Medusa would have learned our full story? Truth of this reality and all the meta information? Even the doujins about her we seen?
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>>4726158
>"I think you're beautiful no matter what form you take."
Purple threesome secured. Also what's Rider's affection number looking like after this?
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>>4726220
You can work this one out, I think.
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>>4726225
I'm expecting the 99/100, just wanted the confirmation. Thanks.
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>>4726182
I love our snake wife
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>>4726210
That by itself might make for a good Carnival story.
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>>4726184
I really want a Cu power up, I feel like he's been shafted in canon and I really wanna see QM's interpretation of what his Ireland power has would be
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>>4726226
He already confirmed it like a day or two ago, it makes sense too, Sakura adores us so Rider would already have a very high opinion of us already
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>>4726232
I can only hope that it will make the cut during next Carnival.
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I'll call in fifteen minutes.
Gotta do some laundry.
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>>4726242
Washing that Wendy's uniform?
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>>4726243
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>>4726243
Nigga we been through this before, he works at Tesco. Duh.
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>>4726250
What if he's a glownigger?
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>>4726268
If WhatIs is a glow in the dark I wouldn't be surprised, he's probably trying to harvest information to make an American adaptation of Type/Moon ips in the form of Netflix and Comics because American brands are failing. Predictabo.
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>>4726184
>Double Stuffed
>No Regular
>No Thins
We've come so far...but we still have so far to go.
I'd say, "guess every servant can't be saber", but the Sabers have the same body types.
Mini, Medium, and Mommy.
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You smile at Medusa before you respond. "I think you're beautiful no matter what form you take." Medusa blushes deep crimson at your compliment. "Be it you as you are now, Medusiana, or even when you're calling on the power of the Gorgon, you're still... beautiful." She goes even redder now, and she looks away from you for a few moments. As she fidgets with her blindfold.

"I... I see, then... if that's the case, I'll... I'll remain in this form when I'm with you. If you... find it just as beautiful as my... younger form." If you're being honest, you find her quite a bit more beautiful when she's like this. Medusa really does have her priorities messed up when it comes to beauty. After all, with all the magic stripped away from a situation, if she and her two sisters entered a beauty pageant, she'd win, and her two sisters would be disqualified for both looking like twelve year olds. Not to mention when it comes to personality, Medusa is not only the more interesting of the three sisters, but she's also the least sadistic one. With Medusa, you can be sure that she'd never try to pull some sort of overly cruel prank on you, whereas the same cannot be sad at all about her two sisters, who basically spent their entire life being cruel to those who came to see them. It was in their nature to be loved by humans completely and to hate them in return. You can't really hate them for acting the way they were made to act about humans. If you had to live an existence where you were supposed to be violated by men like Medusa's two sisters were, you'd probably hate humanity as well. Though they should seriously treat Medusa with a little more affection.

Medusa finally turns around to face you once more, her blindfold has been taken off now, and she's looking at you with those beautiful pale pink eyes of hers. Her square pupils seemingly staring into your soul. "Medusa, your ey-" You realize with shock that if you're looking at her eyes, then you're at risk of them petrifying not just you, but Sakura, Euryale and Stheno too!

"Don't worry. I've managed to seal my Mystic Eyes when I'm not fighting." Her eyes seem to sparkle in the light, as life returns to the island. You hadn't even noticed, but the ground underneath Medusa has begun to spring forth new life, and the sky has already returned to a calming blue. "Thanks to the power you helped me to control... I don't need to wear this blindfold anymore." She shows the blindfold hanging loosely round her neck. "You two... You've both done so much for me already... When I was summoned by the Holy Grail, I was simply looking for the opportunity to save somebody like me, but... she had already been saved, and I realized that it might be a little selfish, but it was... the person who saved her that I was looking for." Medusa gives you a truly happy smile, and Sakura doesn't seem bothered at all, her bond with Rider is a deep one, it seems.
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"You... You've gotten a lot stronger, haven't you, Medusa?" You ask the woman. Seriously, what an unbelievably powerful skill Three Faces is. It's basically a cheat skill! Not to mention that with the Gorgon's variation of Cybele, there are practically no Servants who could survive a fight with her! Medusa has gone from one of your weaker allies, to easily one of your most powerful!

"That's right. I'm... not going to let anything happen to you or Sakura from now on. I swear that to you. I'm going to use this power to protect all that I care for." Medusa smiles at you one final time. "Now, I think it's about time we left. As much as I would like to spend all my time in this place now that I have it under perfect control." Medusa frowns, knowing that it's unlikely that she's going to be able to experience her own mental world as a part of it after leaving. The world around you starts to fade to white as you are forced back into the real world, and you look at the upset faces of Stheno and Euryale. They've probably realized they aren't coming with you.

>Grab Stheno and Euryale.
>Try applying a concept to Stheno and Euryale (What?)
>Don't do anything.
>Write-in...
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>>4726296
>Grab Stheno and Euryale.
>Try applying a concept to Stheno and Euryale (What?) TRUE INCARNATION.
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>>4726302
Support
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>>4726302
+1
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>>4726302
Support
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>>4726296
>>4726302
Worth a try.
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>>4726302
It is time, support.
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>>4726296
>>4726302
support
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>>4726302
Support
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>After all, with all the magic stripped away from a situation, if she and her two sisters entered a beauty pageant, she'd win, and her two sisters would be disqualified for both looking like twelve year olds.
Damn.
If Illya wasn't out of the running before, she's out now.
Sorrry cunnyfags, maybe next quest.
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>>4726349
It's just Shinji making the comparison that the standards of beauty have changed since the times before the AD Calendar, and that Medusa is a very beautiful woman.
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>>4726353
>Ancient Greek Groomers
Heh.
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>>4726349
She's still a love interest, he's just putting them down cause they constantly bully Medusa over her looks. Cunnyfags still got btfo when we adopted Betty and Abby though
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>>Damage against opponents with divinity is increased, however, the chances of Avenger going Berserk upon seeing a Greek or Roman God or Demi-God are high, with some exceptions.
I hope Avenger won't go full Berserker upon seeing Stheno/Euryale
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Imagine Stheno and Euryale with BB.
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>>4726374
I don't think he will go berserk, but I do expect for him to go on a three post rant.
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>>4726383
They'd make fun of BB's ridiculous breast size while secretly seething in jealousy at it.
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>>4726383
3 retards Shinji is allowed to bully
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>>4726386
That's some real "on thin ice" shit to make fun of BB's appearance considering who she looks like
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>>4726302
Support
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>>4726390
We kinda need to explain BB to Sakura and Illya as bare minimum
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>>4726386
>>4726387
>>4726390
They can roast BB pretty good I imagine.
But ultimate "on thin ice" shit would be if they try to rouse rest of the harem with something like "he claimed full ownership over us like a mad brute, our very core was tampered with under his relentless assaults just like he did with our sister before us".
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Is the Harpe Medusa has the same Harpe Archer and Shirou can trace? Cause if it is, they’re both even more useful than they originally were


>>4726398
They're not entirely wrong tbqh
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>>4726384
I'm looking forward to Alcides, Medusa and Medea shitting on the asshole Greek gods together.
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>>4726404
I am sure Karna will tell it to be so.
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>>4726407
Have Alcides and Medea had any sorta interactions? He kinda vouched for her early on and in myth, Herc had a soft spot for her and she cured him of his madness
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>>4726411
Not really no. We lost Alcides when we first met Medea, lost her when we got Alcides back and it's only been a few hours since we got her back, all with more urgent things to do.
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As the world fades out, you get just one last idea. You suddenly grab both Stheno and Euryale, earning a yelp of surprise from both of the girls, and you begin to run your magical energy through their bodies. Normally, you wouldn't ever suggest trying to do something like this, in attempting to give souls a body, but... It might just be possible for Stheno and Euryale, while the two of them are Goddesses, they are also tremendously weak. So it will take far less magical energy to attempt to do just what your planning on doing right now than it would to do something like say, incarnate a Servant into a truly incarnated living form. Of course, there are other factors at play as well, for one, the fact that this is Medusa's mental world means that there's no interference from Gaia, and the fact that it is replicating an environment where the magical energy is dense and rich like that of the Age of Gods. Both of these factors combined means that right now, the application of the concept of 'True Incarnation' is a possibility!

The limitless potential of Truth surges through the bodies of the two girls, just as a wave of white washes over your field of vision, you hope that you managed to complete the process in time, otherwise there's no telling what might've ended up happening to the two girls. It probably isn't safe for them to continue to live on the Shapeless Islands without Medusa with them. While the two girls aren't at risk of being taken away by visitors to the island, they would be at risk of running across the other threats of the isles. Not to mention that the two of them are completely hopeless, and can't take care of themselves at all without Medusa helping them out. Hmmph, odd thought, that in the end, you had something in common with the would-be heroes who came to this island. Well, two things, actually. The first being that you came looking to slay the Gorgon... in a sense, and with Medusa's help, you succeeded. The second thing in common is this wish to take Stheno and Euryale with you from the island, and that remains to be seen whether or not you were successful or not.
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Color returns to the world, and you find yourself staring up at Medusa's face which is really way too close! The warmth underneath your head could only be... Medusa's lap? "O-oh! Shinji! You're... already awake!" The woman sounds more than a little surprised to have been caught in the act of giving you a lap pillow, and springs her head back. You can see that Medusa has been somewhat busy while she waited for you and Sakura to wake up. To your side you can see Sakura laid out on a pilfered prison bed, one without any stains from the previous owner melting into it, thankfully. Of course, what surprises you are the two girls laying asleep together on the bed next to Sakura. So... you actually really managed it?! This is fantastic! For... Medusa, of course. While the girls might've somewhat managed to endear themselves to you by taking action when Medusa needed their affection the most, you won't hesitate to scold or punish them if you see them taking advantage of their sister's kindness again. "I... Well... I could... only find two clean beds, so I decided that instead of piling you on top of Sakura or..." A faint smile appears on Medusa's face as she looks at the two new sleeping arrivals. "or my sisters. I... decided that it would just be simpler if I were to let you... uhm, rest on my lap?" Medusa sounds like a schoolgirl, embarrassed to be talking to her crush, and the blush on her face as she looks at you is making the fact that she may have developed feelings for you just a little bit too obvious.

"Stheno and Euryale... were actually brought out as well then? I... didn't really know if that was going to work..." You get up from Medusa's lap, though you would in truth not mind staying where you were for hours, you unfortunately cannot do that.

"So it was your doing! At first, I was worried, for I couldn't feel the presence of their souls in my body. After spending so long not realizing that they were with me all this time, I felt like a fool when I had managed to lose them again..." Medusa sounds sad for a few moments. "But then, I found just why I could no longer feel their presence within me, as they materialized out of a golden light that emanated from your body." Oh, so that's how it happened? Interesting. You suppose that their physical forms would've had to have come from somewhere. "Of course, what's even stranger is that by all accounts, my sisters... are truly alive! Not to mention that they are still goddesses! The world should be rejecting their existence ferociously, but... instead, it seems to be trying to bolster them instead!" Oh. That is... strange. Could this be a result of having used truth to bring the girls back to life, or just a result of them being such weak goddesses that the world itself doesn't feel it necessary to target them as threats? When it comes to magical energy, honestly, you've met a lot of magi that were more impressive than the two girls when it came to such things. What useless goddesses.
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"Nngh?" A sound from one of the beds alerts you to Sakura waking up from her sleep. Making a cute noise as she wakes up, before she smiles at you and Medusa, very happy to see the both of you together. You wonder how happy Sakura would've been if she woke up just a minute or so before you, and saw Rider in the process of giving you a lap pillow. "Rider! You're back!" She runs up to the Servant and gives her a hug, which Rider is quick to return. You're probably imagining things, but Sakura's body shape looks... a little... different? You don't really want to say anything, but there may have been some unexpected side effects of Tiamat's extended stay within Sakura... "I'm so glad you're back now, Rider!" As the two pull each other into a tight embrace, a set of command spells light up on the back of Sakura's left hand. Excellent. While Rider does have Independent Action, it's still good that you won't need to have the Casters spend time contracting Medusa to Sakura.

While you watch the Servant and Master hug it out for a moment, your attention quickly turns back to the two sisters sleeping on the bed. While women and... well, you, are immune to their charming nature. There are going to be certain people who aren't so lucky. To defend against their charms indefinitely, somebody would either need to be completely single-minded about something, have a skill that provides immunity to mental interference, or have a high rank of Magic Resistance.

>Wait for the girls to wake up, and then take them with you. They can share the Shroud of Matthias
>Wrap the girls in blankets and then carry them. You don't know if Shirou will be able to resist their passive charm.
>Just ask Medusa to carry her two sisters. There's no need to hide them. It's Shirou for God's sake.
>Write-in...
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>>4726429
>>Wait for the girls to wake up, and then take them with you. They can share the Shroud of Matthias
On one hand, Shirou could be autistic enough to overcome it, on the other hand, he's an eroge protagonist
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>>4726429
>Just ask Medusa to carry her two sisters. There's no need to hide them. It's Shirou for God's sake.
Like Shirou would ever cheat on Saber.

>You're probably imagining things, but Sakura's body shape looks... a little... different? You don't really want to say anything, but there may have been some unexpected side effects of Tiamat's extended stay within Sakura...
Oh boy.
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Avalon is still inside Shirou, right?
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>>4726429
>>Just ask Medusa to carry her two sisters. There's no need to hide them. It's Shirou for God's sake.
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>>4726429
>Just ask Medusa to carry her two sisters. There's no need to hide them. It's Shirou for God's sake.
Shirou, the most single-minded man in existence, being affected by the magic charms of two idiot goddesses when he's next to his fiancee waifu, a day after they got engaged and exchanged mana? No way in hell. He'll be the second man they've ever met to no-sell them.

>You're probably imagining things, but Sakura's body shape looks... a little... different?
We need to give her more children soon.

>>4726440
He gave the original to Artoria, but he got himself a copy.
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>>4726428
>Medusa sounds like a schoolgirl, embarrassed to be talking to her crush, and the blush on her face as she looks at you is making the fact that she may have developed feelings for you just a little bit too obvious.
That's so fucking cute dude aw

>>4726429
>You're probably imagining things, but Sakura's body shape looks... a little... different? You don't really want to say anything, but there may have been some unexpected side effects of Tiamat's extended stay within Sakura...
Realizing that your little sister is actually a woman
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>>4726429
>Just ask Medusa to carry her two sisters. There's no need to hide them. It's Shirou for God's sake.
I want to see them panic when their charm won't work.
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>>4726429
Ask sakura if her shirt has been feeling tighter lately
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>>4726450
We could just grab her breasts and make sure.

Also, WhatIs, I love you man but I am disappointed in you for not using something like picrel in this update.
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>>4726429
>Just ask Medusa to carry her two sisters. There's no need to hide them. It's Shirou for God's sake.

>You don't really want to say anything, but there may have been some unexpected side effects of Tiamat's extended stay within Sakura...
BIGGER
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>>4726454
Damn it, I should've done that.
half the time though, I don't want to trawl through my image folders.
I should probably organize them a little better
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>>4726429
>Just ask Medusa to carry her two sisters. There's no need to hide them. It's Shirou for God's sake.
In worst case scenario we just make him produce something that gives mental defense.
>as they materialized out of a golden light that emanated from your body
...just realized. The reason the World is fine with them is because they are now related to us.
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Calling in 30
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>>4726464
Yeah, sorting by names and used to be enough but I don't think I'd ever be able to find anything now if I didn't have separate folders for the characters involved.

>>4726472
Oh shit, you might be right. Are we up to five daughters in a single day? lolifags utterly btfo
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>>4726474
They are adult women, they're as much our daughters as Illya is
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Damn if only Ishtar Rin was obtainable we'd have the perfect Waifu set. Instead we have shit Rin uselessly hovering about.
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>>4726429
>Just ask Medusa to carry her two sisters. There's no need to hide them. It's Shirou for God's sake.

Worst case we bind/hypnotize/let Saber strangle him.
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>>4726473
What is this? A Medea for ants?
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>>4726479
Rin is based and Ishtarin is a useless goddess
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>>4726429
>Just ask Medusa to carry her two sisters. There's no need to hide them. It's Shirou for God's sake.
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>>4726483
Bra you smoking so much weed if you think that. Don't worry we have programs to get you sane again.

We're incarnating Archer right so he can have crap Rin. Don't see that relationship going well considering he's still obsessed with getting to Avalon for his Waifu Saber and he's still idiot hero Shiro.
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>>4726489
The only reason that Ishtar is at all tolerable as a person is because of Rin's influence making her less of a horrible person.
You don't like Ishtar.
You like Rin, sorry to say.
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>>4726492
Damn destroying the dream!

Speaking of Ishtar, is snowfield still happening? Also is that demon touched witch and Sigma in the US?
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>>4726494
>is snowfield still happening?
It has the potential to happen, but it will also be very very different.
I'm surprised it hasn't really come up yet. Figured you guys might want to discuss the masters of it a little.
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>>4726496
We've been KINDA busy here.

And speaking of Rin.
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>>4726496
Flat and Berserker Jack are based and we must save that one comatose girl with Pale Rider
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We should learn from how to create items. I want armor and weapons to boost ourselves. Every hero has legendary items.
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Is this too lewd for this board?
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>>4726504
We have 3 Casters and 2 Shirous
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Also here's a picture for Easter
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>>4726506
Sakura got tired of waiting and decided to have a shotgun wedding?
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>>4726508
We need more Shirous. Also you forgot we have a Touko too.
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>You're probably imagining things, but Sakura's body shape looks... a little... different? You don't really want to say anything, but there may have been some unexpected side effects of Tiamat's extended stay within Sakura...
https://youtu.be/tcz36EfinJw
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>>4726429
>Just ask Medusa to carry her two sisters. There's no need to hide them. It's Shirou for God's sake.
Sakura's boobs and ass grew by 1.5x the size I just know it. Imagine if her bra tore because of the sheer size increase... Jeez who's boobs are bigger now, her or Rider?
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>>4726508
Do we trust Morgana not to fuck with the armor. Plus I'm pretty sure Shinji could do it better with Truth.

So we essentially have 2 trustable casters. Shiros doesn't create he copies and not permanently so counting him out.
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Ik QM is gonna make FSF harder if we do it but even then, it likely won't be enough, by the end of the HGW Shinji at base form will be at least as strong as an average servant at base form with a fully formed reality marble that can reshape reality. That’s not even counting the fully reincarnated servants we can use.
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>>4726473
I wonder how the other females in our party would feel about Sakura's breast and ass enhancement. Jealousy?
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>>4726521
Once the moment passes and we see her shifting her bra around in discomfort, we'll know for sure.
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tbf Sakura already has a great body
There isn't much to enhance

>>4726496
Hype
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>>4726522
2 Casters that want to marry us and 2 Shirous that are fiercely loyal to us (well, one of them is) will make sure Morgan can't do anything fucky. Also Shirou’s Projections can stay around indefinitely
>>4726521
Sakura
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>>4726521
Medusa When in Gorgon form.
I wonder if we can pet her snake hair.
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>>4726537
Also, Morgan is our King's Servant. She couldn't misbehave even if she wanted to.

>Sakura
yes
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>>4726537
If I remember correctly Shiros projections only last a week tops due to Gaia unless he refreshes them. Second he copies what he sees not create new. Third there is an upper bound to what even he can copy.
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Could we recover and fix the matou crest once we have killed Zouken? The demon should have been eaten by Orochi and Zouken wasn't a slouch when he was young. The knowledge would be worth the hassle.
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>>4726548
What do you think 'crest worm' means?
The worms are the crest.
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>>4726429
Will we finally see RAPECHAD Shiki because of this?
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>>4726554
RAPEDchad is more likely imho.
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>>4726558
I mean in regards to Stheno and Euryale, it might finally pull Shiki's rapetrigger
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>>4726558
If Sakura doesn't vore someone for threatening her I will be disappointed. Its her defense mechanism at this point. Seeing what happens to them inside of her world in graphic detail is a plus, especially if Tiamat also vores the person inside of her. Double vore.
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>>4726563
Ah, I read "Shiki" as "Shinji". Yeah, Shiki is extremely likely to be affected by these two. Aoko will be cross with him.
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>>4726566
I'm just hoping Aoko's big titty onee-chan energy was able to tame most of Shiki's rapey tendencies.
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>>4726558
Can Sakura still turn Dark with Tiamat inside her?
If she could control herself, I'd like to see her kill Zouken/Orochi.
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>>4726572
The only risk is Orochi's poison getting into her bloodline, which would technically be the bloodline of all things born of Tiamat. So.. all life on Earth.

Chiyome, who is merely bearing the Orochi's curse is able to be vored and kill Echidna the mother of monsters from Greek mythology in lb5.

>Echidna is capable of giving birth to various powerful monsters within Greco-Roman Mythology including the immortal Lernaean Hydra, the mythical Chimera, the Colchian dragon, the Sphinx of Greek Mythology, Cerberus the "Watchdog of Hell", and the legendary Nemean Lion.

She's a Tiamat lite and was killed by just the lingering aids from Orochi, let alone the real thing with White Princess enhancements.
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>>4726572
I'd imagine she'd turn Dark if we reject her. She is attached to us as her ultimate savior and everything she could want in a man, in her eyes we are perfect and no one could ever fill our place if she loses us. Tiamat's primal instincts is also making her more territorial to what she believes is already her's (Shinji). When she loses us to another hussy she will lose it and give into Tiamat's primal dark side and will do anything to take us back.
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>>4726572
If Sakura loses control now, she becomes a Beast that can end all life on Earth, an order of magnitude more powerful than a mere Dark Sakura. So we'd better give her all the love and affection and children she needs.

Her eating Orochi might be dangerous. If Shiki soulkills him and leave Zouken alone I'd be all for letting her eat our beloved grandpa.
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>>4726578
She's fertile enough to be octomom with her first litter of kids just so y'all know.
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>>4726545
They last as long as the dude believes they are okay to last, the stuff in his shed just didnt go away at all iirc.
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>>4726578
>>4726576
>>4726575
In all honesty, I'm glad we couldn't kill Zouken yet, if anyone should get to do it, its Sakura.
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>>4726593
I DEFINITELY agree. I was against us confronting him without her from the start.
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>>4726551
Damn was hoping we could pull the knowledge and make an actual crest. What does the Sakura from the magical girl universe use. Im not sure if canon ever elaborated on her situation.
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"Medusa, would you mind carrying those two back to Shirou and Saber? Normally, I'd be a little bit worried about their charm, but if there's one other person other than myself who would be immune to their charms, it's gotta be him." Honestly, not only has he just gotten engaged to Saber, the love of his life, but it's Shirou. The two would probably have more luck trying to use their abilities to seduce a brick wall than Shirou. When it comes to single-mindedly doing something, he's got that down perfectly. Medusa nods as she gently picks up her two sisters. "Come on, I'll lead the way back to the helicopter we used to get here, I take it you would like to drive?" You smile at Rider.

"Of course, I've wanted to pilot one of the modern era's flying vehicles ever since I first found out about them." Medusa seems to be quite excited by the prospect of flying a helicopter, and honestly, she's your best bet for piloting it back to Rin's home. While Saber is a fantastic pilot in her own right, capable of pushing vehicles beyond their limits, Rider is far better at operating anything. Well, you suppose the same goes for you now as well, thanks to your interaction with Pegasus. Maybe you should build a stable for Medusa to keep the horse permanently manifested in? While it's understandable that she doesn't keep her mount around for the majority of time due to his peaceful nature, as he would be a burden in combat outside of the usage of Bellerophon. Medusa would probably appreciate being able to have her horse around at all times. Even if it increases the amount of Magical Energy she has to use, it's not Sakura doesn't have a practically unlimited supply thanks to the now apparently purified shards of the grail inside her. Not to mention, well, Tiamat. Tiamat is completely ridiculous when it comes to the energy she could output, like seven times more magical energy available to her than a Holy Grail should have. If Sakura could tap into Tiamat's magical energy, then she could effortlessly overpower... well, anybody. She wouldn't even really need to use the rest of Tiamat's abilities to do such a thing.

The journey out of the prison feels much shorter than the expedition into it, and before long, you're back to the rooftop, it's much later than you thought it would be though, the moon is high in the sky. You can't see Saber or Shirou though, and the Helicopter door is shut. Are they waiting inside the Helicopter still? That doesn't seem very wise of Saber. How exactly is she supposed to keep an eye out for enemies if she's in the helicopter with Shirou? You suppose that you did tell them not to go in after you, and the two probably wouldn't be aware that the after-effects of Pandemonium Cetus prevented all outside contact. They may have just been waiting for Medea to show up to get them to assist, perhaps?

>Call out to the two.
>Open the helicopter doors.
>Knock on the helicopter doors.
>Write-in...
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>>4726600
It may not necessarily work, but I guess if anyone could take the useful shit out of the crest worms and leave the bad shit it would be Touko.

In Mahoyo she harvested a shitton of crests and used them as externalized items but still benefited from them all somehow, so she can do some fuckery.
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>>4726572
She can potentially turn dark I'm pretty sure since Angra is still fucking up the Grail and she has pieces of the Grail in her but chances of it happening are down drastically, she isn’t in constant pain cause of the Grail, she has friends, a close relationship with Rin, a daughter and she’s in love. Unless something drastic happens, she’s fine, but if it does happen she'll be much more dangerous because of Tiamat

>>4726576
Straight up never happening either way, out of everyone, Sakura is the person we're most protective of, we'd be more likely to go along with it even if we don't see her in that light
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>>4726601
>Knock on the helicopter doors.
They're fucking in there
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>>4726601
>Call out to the two.
>Knock on the helicopter doors.
>Mentally call Medea
Oh fuck. Wasn't it morning when we got in?
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>>4726601
>>Call out to the two.
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>>4726601
Spooky.

Assassin or Cu inside maybe?

>Telepathically contact Medea, check on the status of the map and whether she saw anything happen to Saber and Shirou while scrying the location before you approach the helicopter.
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>>4726609
Once again, another reason why Shirou is more based than us, we have much to learn from him
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>>4726610
It was sunset.
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>>4726601
Going with >>4726612
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>>4726601
>>Open the helicopter doors.
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>>4726612
Hope it's Assassin, we are not fucking ready to handle amped up Cu, plus it'd be nice to see who 2nd Assassin is
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>>4726601
Support
>>4726612
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>>4726616
Damn, I've completely lost track of time for this day.
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>>4726601
>Call out to the two.
>Knock on the helicopter doors.
They're having sex in there aren't they? Jesus Shirou, at least wait until we give Saber a functional womb from incarnation and take responsibility dammit. Taking advantage of the barren womb of servants.
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>>4726612
>>4726601
Support
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>>4726593
Honestly I don't want Sakura anywhere near Orochi, she doesn't need to see what we're gonna do with him, plus I don't want Orochi doing anything fucky with her, she still has bits of the Grail in her and Tiamat
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>>4726623
She's technically incarnated already
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>>4726601
>Knock on the helicopter doors.
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I do love how the two trains of thought here are "they fuckin" or that it's a trap
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>>4726631
It's either or anon
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>>4726614
He should definitely pull us aside and offer us some pointers, as the more experienced friend.
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>>4726631
True. They could just be making out for all we know.
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>>4726631
Saber has Avalon and Shirou is nearly as strong as EMIYA Archer in our timeline. They could at least hold off whatever threat came their way, or Medea rescued them when things got hairy. Which is why I think they're fucking, AGAIN. We need to give Saber a functional womb so Shriou can take responsibility.
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>>4726601

>Call out to the two.

Damn it Shiro could you not keep it in your pants. How are we going to sit in that helicopter after what you've done.
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Calling in 40.
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>>4726638
Avalon Saber is a god tier servant comparable to Gilgamesh or Alcides, really her only weakness would be targeting Shirou who she'd prioritize
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>>4726601
>Call out to the two.
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>>4726640
I think it'd be pretty funny how we had a death match with the Gorgon while Shirou and Saber were fucking. He just can't help himself
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>>4726649
Wasn't Gil holding back and was surprised when Avalon blocked low power Ea? That's the only reason she won that route. Gil's only weakness is his hubris.
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>>4726668
Avalon is beyond True Magic and would've stopped Ea no matter how much power was put in it.
Saber wasn't even there, she was in another dimension entirely.
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>>4726601
>>Call out to the two.
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>>4726674
WhatIs, you better have "All Fiction" be part of the final RM aria line
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>>4726695
All Fiction was straight up stolen from Medaka Box, it honestly felt more like a place holder name that /a/nons used when they realized a Reality Marble was possible
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>>4726712
Yeah, it pretty much is a placeholder name. I'm sure WhatIs can come up with something better.
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I still think it's funny how /a/nons managed to create a great premise for a fanfic, the original prompt honestly felt like a joke at first but then everyone quickly realized how interesting things could turn out if Shinji not only was a good person but knew how things would turn out
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>>4726730
Does anyone have a link to that thread?
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>>4726750
There were more than one, I think, but I don't have a link handy. Maybe search an archive?
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>>4726730
Shinji was a good person before Zouken fucks him up. Being Shinji is usually pain but this story comparatively made it easier to get out of the cycle using magic circuits. If he didn't have any it would be interesting to see how people dig themselves out of the canon Shinji hole.
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>>4726757
If Shinji didn't have hidden True Magic powers I think most anons would have convinced Aoko to kill Zouken early game. Nobody wanted to rape Sakura again.
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>>4726750
Just look up "isekai'd as Shinji" on desuarchive, you more or less get the outline the quest used, ofc QM added a lot of details to it but the original ideas are still there, like finding Medea, summoning the dragon and the Reality Marble
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>>4726774
One thing I will give WhatIs is that he could have very easily never continued the story and ghosted it after the recruit Shuten arc because of the samefags. QMs inevitably all ghost though because of life but so far we are reaching some form of end story at least.
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>>4726757
Yeah its not talked about how Shinji is also a victim of Zouken's abuse, ofc it wasn't nearly as bad as Sakura had it and it was completely unforgivable how he abused Sakura but its no wonder he turned out to be a little shit, his mom was thrown in the worm pit, his dad neglected him and Zouken treated him like fucking garbage.

He had his good side, he genuinely cared about Shirou and would protect him when people took advantage of him but he never had a chance

Also without magic circuits we would've done literally anything else to avoid raping Sakura, there were several different avenue's to take, we would've made Rin and Shirou kill him most likely
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I kinda wonder how things would've gone if Sweets ran the quest, he was in the thread and told everyone he was interested in running it
>>4726779
Ya QM is a champ, he’s an insane person for being able to write this much on the daily
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>>4726779
Not ghosting as so many would in his position after the Shuten clusterfuck is to his credit, yes. But I think it's more important to acknowledge that he took an intriguing premise and pulled all stops to make it more interesting than anyone could have imagined going in, as well as his terrifying writing speed.

>>4726783
Yeah, canon Shinji is a fairly typical victim of abuse who goes on to victimize others. He's still a little shit though.

And there were people early on in the Quest who wanted us to wait until we recruited Medea before we took him on instead of hitting him after the Einzbern visit. And there were more that wanted to go along with his request when he blindsided us after we returned. Still a minority, luckily.
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>>4726787
Yeah glad we didn't go along with Zouken, would’ve made things dark as shit as that incident forever loams over isekai!Shinji's head
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>>4726814
The fucked up thing is, Sakura would have forgiven us for it or even had been "okay" with it. She would have viewed the incident as her Nii-chan being powerless to stop Zouken as she had expected. At the very least, it was someone she loved and trusted doing it instead of Byakuya or the worms.
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>>4726820
Sakura would certainly have easily forgiven us. She is incredibly resilient. Hell, she forgives shithead canon-Shinji in UBW. But would we have forgiven ourselves?
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>>4726824
Never. There were so many ways we could have killed that worm bastard prior, convincing Aoko of what was going on, asking Touko, heck even talking Kirei into killing Zouken via. Rin because Kirei despised the old worm. We would have never forgiven ourselves for how useless we were in that moment.
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>>4726820
>>4726824
I doubt we'd ever forgive ourselves, especially if Sakura just easily forgives us, would be pretty depressing to get route locked with Sakura out of sheer guilt instead of because we genuinely love her. We really dodged a bullet there
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>>4726826
>>4726828
Yep, that's what I think as well. But I'm 50/50 on whether we'd be route-locked out of guilt, or disqualified her from the shinjibowl entirely, again out of guilt. It would be terrible either way. Far worse than a dead end for sure.
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>>4726826
Yeah we effectively failed if we rape Sakura, the entire goal for the first half was to save her before Zouken forces us to go along with what he wants. Going along with him means he wins and makes us a pawn in his plans, we basically achieved nothing

>>4726831
QM stated that going along with Zouken meant we turn much more pragmatic and cold while also being more openly affectionate towards Sakura, sounds more like a route lock
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>>4726826
You'd have to convince Rin it was going on. Shinji isn't her most favorite or trusted person. Then convince Rin not to charge and die to Zouken and instead of to the Priest. Then convince the Priest without any proof that Zouken was doing this. Remember the Priest knows what Zouken is but doesn't have the proof to allow him to kill him. He hates him but has his hands tied.

Shiro would charge and die or be used as a pawn if talked to.

Touko wouldn't give a shit considering Shinji's relationship exists only because he has unique magic circuits.

Aoko would have to be the one we would have to convince. That's probably the earliest and only way to pull it off.
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>>4726837
More affectionate yes, but it would not have necessarily been romantic affection. Not when we'd associate sex with her with guilt, failure and rape.
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>>4726838
Convincing Rin is extremely easy, promising her Sakura would make her go along with it, a Geas would destroy whatever suspicions she may have, your also not giving Rin enough credit, she's an extremely powerful and talented Magus and would likely be able to kill Zouken by herself at that age
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>>4726854
>would likely be able to kill Zouken by herself at that age
I doubt that. But we WOULD be able to convince her Sakura needs her help, AND that she either needs Kotomine or the Kaleidostick to take him on. She's headstrong, but not a complete idiot and she wouldn't take chances with saving her sister.

Hell, convincing Touko might not have been that hard. She'd known and taught us for years by this point, and she'd be very sympathetic to us not wanting to rape our sister at the command of our evil grandpa. She'd be disappointed in us, as she saw it as a test, but she'd help.
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>>4726858
i'm basing it off a scan i saw of the HF manga where Rin said Zouken was no enemy to her, I wouldn't want to rely on Kirei but he fucking loathes Zouken so I doubt he'd try something
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>>4726878
Zouken would be no enemy of her as long as she thought her sister was happy and being trained to become a Magus heir. That would have changed in a heartbeat if she learned the truth. Relying on Kirei would have been my last resort too, but even he would have been preferable to actually going through with the rape.
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"Oi! Shirou! Saber! Are you two in the helicopter right now?!" You decide to call out for the two of them first. There's no point being paranoid. The odds that the two of them were attacked by Second Assassin in the hour or two that you were dealing with Gorgon are fairly low. Not only would that mean that Assassin was willing to come into the territory of the Gorgon just to strike Saber and Shirou, it would mean that he was confident enough to fight Saber. An Assassin fighting a Saber is just something that doesn't happen! Well, unless it's somebody like Shuten as an Assassin, but that hardly counts. Shuten is basically a damn cheater with how strong she is for an Assassin. If she were actually halfway inclined to follow commands, she's the sort of Servant you could use to win a Grail War almost overnight. She is an Assassin with a Noble Phantasm that will absolutely kill an enemy Master without fail if she used it. There's genuinely nothing a Servant could do to save their Master from the Providential Oni Poison before they melted away, then the Servant, deprived of an energy supply, would quickly follow suit. Shuten is actually a super terrifying Servant, even if you were to disregard the fact that she's a physical monster that is practically impossible to kill!

There's a brief sound of scurrying inside the helicopter for a few moments, and you raise your eyebrow. Well, guess that answers that. "W-We're a little busy in here right now, Shinji! Just uh... give us a few minutes!" Hmmph. You have a good idea just what the two of them might've been getting up to while you were busy saving Medusa now.

"Fine. Just remember that we're still in a hurry, you two." You sigh as you start tapping your foot against the floor as you wait for Saber and Shirou to come out of the helicopter. Really, those two, can't they learn to read a scene? How does something like this end up happening? The two of them should've been keeping an eye out for enemy attacks, not... You put your hand to your head in frustration, running your fingers through your hair. It feels like both Sakura and Rider are standing awfully close to you right now. In fact, they both seem to be pressing up against you, it's not exactly uncomfortable, but did they just forget about the concept of personal space, or what?

You wait for around three minutes as Shirou and Saber make themselves... decent. Before the two of them finally emerge from the helicopter, looking more than a little bit awkward as they do. "You, were successful in getting Rider back, then? And those two are...?" Shirou hastily tries to think of a subject to talk about instead of letting the topic dwell on just what he was up to in the helicopter. Seriously though, you're going to have to take the helicopter back, can the two of them seriously not hold themselves back for an hour of inaction?
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"Yes, I was. Rider is back, and those two girls are her sisters. I brought their souls along with me out of her mental world. They... aren't making you feel strange, are they?" You need to make sure that Stheno and Euryale actually don't have an effect on the boy. You feel like you can trust Shirou to be one of the few people on the planet who can resist the charm of the two girls without simply being immune to it through a resistance to magic.

"Huh? Why would they be making me feel strange?" He looks at the two girls in Medusa's arms, and it seems that their natural charm is either inactive while they are asleep, or he's just completely immune to it, either are likely, honestly. In fact, both could easily be true. "They're just little girls, aren't they?" Man, Stheno and Euryale probably wouldn't appreciate being ignored by a man for the second time in a day.

"Oh, no reason. Let's just... get on the helicopter, shall we?" You better not have left a mess, Shirou...

The helicopter interior is actually surprisingly clean, thankfully. Though you decide to sit in the co-pilot seat alongside Medusa, while you leave Shirou, Saber, Sakura, and Medusa's sisters in the back. It's not strictly necessary that you do, but you kind of want to test out your new Riding skill for yourself. You didn't really get much of an opportunity to test it out with Pegasus, after all. You instinctively know everything you need to do to properly pilot the aircraft, despite having only a fundamental training in the operations of this type of helicopter. So, this is what Riding A+ feels like? How strange. "Shall we be off then, Rider? You recall where Rin's house was, right?"

"That's right." You know, it would be far more effective to just have had Medea teleport you all back but... Oh, right. You almost forgot that Sakura still can't be teleported by Medea. You'll need to get her to practice with her abilities at some point. It should be capable for her to disable her nullification abilities. It's just a problem of knowing how to do such a thing.
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A few minutes into the flight, you leave the area in which Pandemonium Cetus was activated, and almost immediately as you do, a familiar sounding, if slightly worried, voice speaks directly into your head. 'Master! What happened? It's been an hour and a half, and I couldn't scry on you this whole time! I... was just about to teleport over to see if I could help!' Medea is understandably worried, but it's kind of nice that she trusts you enough that even ninety minutes of no-contact when you've gone into an enemy base isn't enough to make her immediately ruin your plans. Things... probably wouldn't have gone very well for whoever ended up fighting the Gorgon, but more than that, anybody fighting the Gorgon on the outside would likely only have increased the power of the Gorgon on the inside world, not to mention that the Gorgon would've been able to kill a lot of your allies if they weren't trying to immediately kill her.

'It's fine, Medea. Medusa just activated a Noble Phantasm that cut the prison off from the outside world, preventing you from reaching me telepathically, or through scrying, I imagine. As for the mission itself, it was a complete success. Medusa has been successfully convinced to rejoin us.' Well, you say convinced, but in truth, Medusa herself was more than happy to continue working as Sakura's Servant, the one that needed convincing was the Gorgon, and it turns out that a giant golden drill is a better tool for convincing than reassuring pats are. You wonder if Medusa remembers those... 'Anyway, there's nothing to worry about, and we'll be back shortly.'

'Understood, stay safe, Master.' Medea stops telepathically speaking with you, and you breathe a sigh of relief. Things would've gotten really bad if Medea didn't trust you as much as she does. In fact, this little exercise has probably only enhanced the trust she has in you. The fact that any worry she had about what might've gone wrong was unwarranted, and you actually managed to confront the Gorgon with only your Sister at your side and not only win, but also revert the Gorgon to the form of Medusa! Medea of course doesn't know about Stheno and Euryale yet, but restoring the Gorgon to a sane state and bringing Stheno and Euryale back to life is as great a legend as any you might hear in the tale of a Greek Hero.
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You're about halfway through the journey to Rin's house, when all the lights on the helicopter black out, plunging you and Rider into darkness, the only lights being that of the city from below. "Damn it! We were hit by a power surge!" It's just a little odd for Rider to even know what one of those is, but you suppose she must've been informed by her Riding Skill. "The engines are out! We've lost all functionality!" You clench your fists. This isn't natural, this is an attack!

>Bail on the helicopter, have Rider use Pegasus to get everyone out safely. This is clearly a lost cause, if you're under attack, you can't fight them while you're in this helicopter.
>Try to use your magecraft to cause another power surge, try to reboot the aircraft. It might just be possible to use your abilities to replicate a surge of electricity to reboot the systems of the machine.
>Have those who can survive falls from this distance hold those who are incapable of such things. The only people who shouldn't be able to survive a jump to the ground are Stheno, Euryale, and Shirou. Everyone else should be strong enough to survive. Your reinforcement has already proven its worth for that.
>Write-in...
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>>4726890
>>Bail on the helicopter, have Rider use Pegasus to get everyone out safely. This is clearly a lost cause, if you're under attack, you can't fight them while you're in this helicopter.
Motherfuckin Shirou was getting his dick sucked while we were in a deathmatch with the Gorgon, gonna need to slap the shit out of him for that, then maybe him how he pulled it off.
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>>4726884
they fuckn
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>>4726854
>>4726858

We couldn't talk to her at the beginning of the quest. We even told her that when we had to go to her during Zouken fight.

Secondly this is based on a hypothetical if SI Shinji didn't have circuits. In that case no way in hell would Touko care about him enough to clean up Zouken making Aoko the only chance.

Kerei might be convinced to train Shinji out of hate to Zouken because due to politics he can't touch him.

FSN Rin fighting Zouken? Zouken wins hands down. She won't resort to the stick unless forced to like she was in quest. Also Shiro wouldn't be able to complete her sword until the grail war. So what I'm getting at is without circuits Aoko would be the only option.

Makes you realize that canon Shinji's best option was to run or gamble on Kirei.
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>>4726898
If we trained Shirou we could've gotten his tracing to a good enough point where he could replicate Zelretch's sword for Rin which would've been GG for Zouken
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>>4726890
>Bail on the helicopter, have Rider use Pegasus to get everyone out safely. This is clearly a lost cause, if you're under attack, you can't fight them while you're in this helicopter.
Goddamn Serbian autist. Magecraft is a no-go from now on, he'll probably even be able to eat our reinforcement and cause us to splat.

And Shirou should definitely teach us a thing or two, we'll need it.
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>>4726890
>>Try to use your magecraft to cause another power surge, try to reboot the aircraft. It might just be possible to use your abilities to replicate a surge of electricity to reboot the systems of the machine.
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>>4726890
Hello Serbian Incel puppeting now aged down Christmas cake.

Probably want speed to not get railgunned down while in freefall velocity, and magic will get eaten.

>>Bail on the helicopter, have Rider use Pegasus to get everyone out safely. This is clearly a lost cause, if you're under attack, you can't fight them while you're in this helicopter.
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>>4726890
>Bail on the helicopter, have Rider use Pegasus to get everyone out safely. This is clearly a lost cause, if you're under attack, you can't fight them while you're in this helicopter.
Why would we even try to reboot the helicopter? There is nothing stopping it from being shut off again.
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>>4726913
>Why would we even try to reboot the helicopter? There is nothing stopping it from being shut off again.
Someone might think it was an one-off EMP for some reason.
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if this is Monica, would it be against God's walkthrough to deal with her now? He stated to only go after Medusa then head for Orochi
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>>4726890
>Try to use your magecraft to cause another power surge, try to reboot the aircraft. It might just be possible to use your abilities to replicate a surge of electricity to reboot the systems of the machine.

Don't want to bail on the heli it can be useful later. Plus who is this going to hit on the ground is another issue.

Fuck Tesla I want my goddamn Helicopter.
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>>4726921
We have more helicopters, and Sakura can just ride on Pegasus with Medusa, we don't even need it anymore.
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>>4726890
>>Bail on the helicopter, have Rider use Pegasus to get everyone out safely. This is clearly a lost cause, if you're under attack, you can't fight them while you're in this helicopter.
Possessed Monica has just started her attack it seems.
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Goodnight, thread.
Did you enjoy todays session?
Has the addition of Lancer/Rider/Avenger to your team given you any more ideas on how to go about dealing with Orochi?
Also, I am genuinely curious as to what you intend to do with Stheno and Euryale, the two are massive liabilities, unless you want to turn them into literal idols or something.
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>>4726920
We can't get Caster to teleport Sakura with us to avoid the Monica fight, we'll have to quickly incapacitate Monica or cause her to retreat somehow since she is in the way.
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>>4726923
We need it if we are in a situation where a pegasus can't be seen like in public.

Second doesn't discount the whole who is this going to land on problem. Are we above the prison still? So this doesn't cause property damage or land on a bystander.
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>>4726927
Make the entire male population of England simp to assist in the takeover.

>>4726931
I think we're past the point of caring about both of those. I assumed Shinji cared more but when it's a choice between people he cares about and an NPC there is no hesitation.
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>>4726927
Stheno and Euryale should be social media influencers or makeup gurus. They'd love that kind of attention and they'd easily outclass the likes of Tana Mogeau in terms of popularity and views.
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>>4726934
Outcompete MagiMari at their own game
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>>4726927
GARcher and snekgf spamming Harpe while Alcides uses Nine Lives to behead the hydra and turn Stheno and Euryale into idols so the British will welcome us as liberators
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>>4726927
I certainly enjoyed it, yes.
Getting Shirou and Shirou to copy Medusiana's weapon is worth a shot, even if she can't fight Orochi herself. Avenger would be some welcome extra muscle though.
My plan for them is to have our caster's+Touko+us work out a way to seal their power, preferably without a way for them to unseal them without our permission and let them see what it's like.

>>4726931
We are long, long past the point of caring about public appearances. Tesla will just eat both the magic and the electricity again. And who cares about random NPCs and collateral damage? Tesla certainly won't just stand there while the helicopter falls on her head.
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>>4726934
Would the charm work through communication devices like media?

Also, I guess we could find some more sealing items or holy shrouds. Church has to have some.
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>>4726947
I think Shirou and Archer already have Harpe in stock, Gilgamesh had it in his GoB and we can safely assume that any sword in his treasurey can be traced by Shirou
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>>4726948
Anything is possible with Makiri industries backing them as a manager. Get them fashion and makeup modeling deals and public tours with neco arc security.
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>>4726937
Don't try to fuck with Merlin, or you'll get fucked by Merlin.
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>>4726951
Then we have to smack Archer on the head for not volunteering that information while we were planning how to take out Orochi. Shirou's forgiven due to being dumb.
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>>4726890
>Bail on the helicopter, have Rider use Pegasus to get everyone out safely. This is clearly a lost cause, if you're under attack, you can't fight them while you're in this helicopter.
i TOLD you they were fucking
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>>4726927
Oh, WhatIs, I have another idea for the Carnival: All of Shirou's visits to the Dojo so far.
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>>4726948
Even if it doesn’t, word of mouth about their concerts and in person performances will spread like wildfire
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That is a good question, do we really care about secrecy at all? Isn't one of our goals to have Mordred rule Britain and I don't know if Shuten would be really secretive per se.
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>>4726961
I think we stopped caring somewhere between deciding to install Mordred as King of Britain, getting a mansion-sized dragon daughter and sending Ibaraki off to found an Oni village.
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>>4726961
Look, mystery is already completely fucked as is, Alitheia by herself is theorized to bring back the AoG, Shuten created a shit ton of onis, we keep incarnating servants, the cat is already out of the bag
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>>4726965
The Age of Gods is technically already here, we incarnated two minor goddesses back onto the planet. The veil between the magical world and modern world will be torn completely once we conquered Britain.
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>>4726964
I guess Clocktower won't really like us but the Wandering Sea might actually really like us, since their thing is wanting to bring back Age of Gods stuff and we're practically overflownig with it.

How dangerous are they to us, even?
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>>4726970
I believe that the end of the HGW will have us figuring out how to fully incarnate servants. Grail mud is capable of incarnating servants but it turns them altered unless your Gilgamesh. God told us to purge the Grail, not destroy it, so if we can clean the corruption, we might be able to have a clean way to bring back servants
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>>4726971
They're weird hermit people that don't involve themselves with the outside world, Clocktower and the Church will be a problem though cause we're a complete anomaly and they either wanna kill us or give us a sealing designation
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>>4726974
Even if the Grail can't do it by itself, can't we have Medea and some Casters take the Juzteaze part of the Grail and do some fuckery with it, try to jury-rig it into actually doing 3rd Magic good without dying?
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>>4726977
I am mostly wary of people like Zelretch, Lorelei and the unnamed Director desu. I meatn that Wandering Sea could actually be our ally, cause we basically brought about their greatest wish.
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I am >>4726964, internet crapped out for a bit.

>>4726971
Clocktower wouldn't like us anyway after we decided to help a mythical hero take over their home turf. Church certainly hates us too, we turned one of their more powerful agents, killed the overseer of the Fuyuki War and stole one of their most sacred relics. I don't know enough about the Wandering Sea to speculate on how they'll deal with us.

>>4726980
If we secure the Grail we'll certainly be able to improve on it. We have the best casters of both modern and ancient times with us.

Also
> "However, I can at least answer that a path of true happiness for all those that you hold dear does exist, but you must act quickly. You must not allow yourself to be distracted by the actions of your allies who have been twisted to serve Manaka with exception to Medusa, who is still clinging on to the last remnants of her previous self, upon saving her. You must go on to defeat the forces of Yamata-no-Orochi, as well as those who oppose him.
God's walkthrough. We must not allow ourselves to be distracted by the autist's actions. This will be tough. Though it's possible he meant not to chase after Monica, she'd come after us. But that practically confirms Bazett and Cu are done for because we didn't really hold them dear.
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>>4726980
Medea is more then capable of doing absurd stuff, she'll likely use the Grail as a battery or try to finish the 3rd Magic, us and Betty have already proven that we can incarnate people too

>>4726985
Zelretch is no enemy of ours, he actually likes us a lot and will only get involved if he feels we're actually going to destroy humanity, which we won't, we know we won't because God and Alaya gave us the ok, Lorelei will be a problem though, she's a prideful fucking bitch and probably one of the few Magus that can actually beat us
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>>4726990
We still care about Bazett and Cu even if we didn't spend that much time with them, we would not have allied with them if we didn't. It'd be a weird dick move on God's part to try to loophole it too, plus he never said "kill" he said "defeat"
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shit, we got zapped. Time to fight electricity now
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>>4726990
Wandering Sea basically want Age of Gods stuff to come back. Instead of searching for Root per se, they do stuff like try to research the original human form iirc.

As for the Church, being blessed by God and having Arc around neutralizes most of their stuff of church miracles and Merem? With the Servants probably able to dunk on their other 8th Sacrament dudes.
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>>4727003
Merem is no enemy of ours, he likes treasures and he's one of Arc's followers, at worst, he'll just go neutral
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>>4726890
>Bail on the helicopter, have Rider use Pegasus to get everyone out safely. This is clearly a lost cause, if you're under attack, you can't fight them while you're in this helicopter.
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>>4727000
I do agree God included them in "those we hold dear" but I wanted to play Devil's advocate for a bit. And I don't understand what you mean by "he never said "kill" he said "defeat""

>>4727003
Ah, good. We're handing them their wish on a silver platter, they'll be valuable allies, unless they want to control this return to the Age of Gods instead of merely benefiting from it. What about Atlas? Will they be a problem?
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>>4727014
defeat as in put them out of commission, that can mean several different things, range from kill to destroy whatever reason they have for fighting us
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>>4727014
Atlas want avert the end of the world and do so through phenomenon alchemy , pseudo-spiritron tech and their retarded stronk arsenal iirc. Zepia who became TATARI basically calculated the end of the world, and did his stuff because he wanted to avert it. Zepia being their former Director.
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>>4727014
Atlas for now isn't a problem, they would've been if we stole Black Barrel
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Atlas may also not give a shit about AoG stuff. Their magecraft works purely through od. It even works in Extra where mana is dried and foundations died off/are unusable.
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>>4726927
We're their new managers. G-pop idols here we come
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>>4727020
Ah, true. But what I'm getting at is God either wanted us not to waste time looking for Monica because she'd come to us, or not to waste time fighting Tesla at all before dealing with Orochi.

>>4727022
>>4727023
Good. We don't plan to end the world (or do they mean the midern world?) so they shouldn't interfere. Leaving the Black Barrel alone saved us an enemy, nice.
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I vaguely remember also some chinese triad-esque chinese Association equivalent being referenced in a material or case files somewhere, but we know basically 0 I think.
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Can we ask Medea to teleport Stheno and Euryale, maybe Shirou too, while we jump on Pegasus with Sakura, Medusa and maybe Saber?
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>>4726890
Bail on the helicopter, have Rider use Pegasus to get everyone out safely. This is clearly a lost cause, if you're under attack, you can't fight them while you're in this helicopter.
Then we need to zoom off to fight Orochi, Tesla's just plinking at us as a distraction, he wants us to chase him and waste time.
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>>4727039
man he really could've been a bit more specific, i feel like we should deal with Monica now that she came to us though, if she tries to run for it or something then we can let her go, but if she isn't letting up then we have to Rule Breaker her and maybe use Morgan's dagger to separate her and Tesla, pseudo servants are kind of a fucked up thing and if we can separate them, they we should
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>>4727039
The end of the world refers to all the "Order" stuff in Melty and Backalley. It sounds like either end of Human Order or some kind of "every timeline collapsing at once " deal that Zepia wanted to get the 6th to avert. It was talked about earlier in this thread I think.
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>>4727050
And just in general too. Super arsenal to combat potential stuff.
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I still can't get over how Shirou was fucking Saber in our helicopter as we were in a life or death situation, i also can't get over how it seemed to give Sakura and Rider a few ideas
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>>4727058
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>>4727058
We're gonna need something like Saber Astolfo's self-cloning thing where there is no original just to survive if everyone gets an idea like that at once.
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>>4727048
He's God, not Gamefaqs.
There really shouldn't be any way for Tesla to outpace us so we should be able to fly away without having any issues.
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>>4727048
That's the problem with Divine Revelations. They tend to be open to interpretation.

>>4727050
In that case they certainly should not be our enemies. And if they come telling us something is a threat to the world we should at least listen.

>>4727058
Entirely in character for him. Remember when he first fucked Saber in Fate? Sakura and Medusa will certainly team up to help their chances with the shinjibowl, they just need some time to strategize.
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>>4727069
Oh I know, that's why i find it so funny, I also found it funny that he was having a threesome while GARcher was having the fight of his life.

Sakura and Medusa are 100% gonna team up and scheme for Shinjibowl, Sakura was open to it with Shirou, she's gonna be open with it with us
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>>4727058
They're teaming up for sure, if only it was as easy to convince the other girls to share.
>>4727062
>Astolfo
Kinda surprised he hasn't turned up yet, him, Jeanne and Nero are the only really popular servants that haven't appeared yet I think.
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>>4727098
all the slots are filled up with the exception of Ruler, QM probably made an executive decision with Mordred over Nero as Mordred is cute and based
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>>4727103
Nero is loud, annoying, and uses literal retard power to cheat
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>>4727116
yeah i don't like her at all, especially when Nasu or whoever the fuck writes for her turned her into a Mary Sue and Rome's best emperor, so fucking retarded. Fingers crossed for Augustus
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>>4727119
The fact Nero gets to have preferential treatment dispite being a barely-functioning autist just goes to show you how far someone will go to keep their saberface relevant.
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Tesla would be a really useful ally in dealing with Orochi.

He's a effectively god of storms without any Divinity. for Orochi to prey on, pretty good parallel to Susanoo just without the sword.

Nikola "Earth or Sky you're gonna die" Tesla would delete a good chunk of Orochi with each zap and offer good combat support. Also shuts down any magical fuckery Zolgen might try and pull.

We shouldn't bother chasing here though, I'd honestly elect to just avoid and leave this encounter if our hand isn't forced.
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>>4727081
Ultimate wingman.
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>>4726890
>Bail on the helicopter, have Rider use Pegasus to get everyone out safely. This is clearly a lost cause, if you're under attack, you can't fight them while you're in this helicopter.
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man, I really wanna meet up with Billy and orochi's lancer.

And that gets me thinking, there's a definite weird thing going on with his -zerker. The only blonde berserkers are kintoki, vlad, bunyan, and Ibaraki.

Unless this is some alter-version fuckery, I think something's up.
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>>4727446
Heroic Spirits can be summoned as more than one class. We got Archer Karna, fir instance, instead of Lancer. No need for literal altering.

I'm betting on Berserker Nero myself. People were just commenting on her absence.
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>>4727446
Her attitude screams John Dork Summer to me.

I get Nero theories, but her strongest and most dangerous class would be Rider because of a certain prophecy surrounding Nero herself.

Nero doesn't seem like someone who would essentially respond with "lol git gud" as a snarky comment when watching other summons put to death in front of her. Jannu on the other hand says that kind of stuff constantly as she's an edgy chuuni. She was also wearing a ridiculous outfit, but they both have that covered assuming it's somewhat based on summer forms.
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>>4726890
>Bail on the helicopter, have Rider use Pegasus to get everyone out safely. This is clearly a lost cause, if you're under attack, you can't fight them while you're in this helicopter.
>>4727098
Astolfo is a worthless faggot. I'd rather our single interaction with him be telling best Rider to turn him to stone
>>4727166
Tesla is a bro.
How difficult would it be to convince him to give Onee-san her body back?
>>4727493
Berserker Nero might have justification for being strong too.
Because City Burning.
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>>4727512
Berserker Nero might be suffering from Innocent Monster or something maybe?
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>>4727517
Innocent Monster makes sense due to the role of antichrist that was branded onto her. Caligula did worse, she was just incompetent as a leader and pissed away money to make the populace happy while scorning the political class.
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>>4727521
If that's the case we might need to use our Big Dick Saver powers to keep her around if we want Umu.
Somebody buffed up with Anti-Christ shit wouod probably be totally busted.
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>>4727515
Tesla was mind controlled very easily by Zolgen in LONDON. He's got a huge brain and can't be simply tricked. He did warn Chaldea what he was going to do, but he had no autonomy over his actions due to Zolgen's control, so similar should apply here.

Morality wise he is very much Good alignment, but through the lens of a mad scientist so very much Chaotic Good. He's also very boastful, prideful and will commend strength where he sees it. You'd have to break the contract before trying to open a dialogue honestly, in canon he's too susceptible to being controlled against his wishes so even if he wants to negotiate he can't.

He also has autistic dislike of beings of mystery, especially Earth and Sky affinity as society has moved beyond the need for fantastical stories.

>>4727527
If I ever get enough free time I'll eventually run the quest/vn style thing I whipped up based in some part around what Umu could be, but at this rate I reckon the arcade FGO version of Camelot will beat me to it even though I wrote all my character mats up years ago.
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Man, when this war is over taking over the world will be super simple.
I'm looking forwards to seeing Mystery and Science being able to co-exist simply because of our actions in spamming out way too much mystery.
The Neo Age of Gods will be a sight to behold.
That might be why Merlin is being a bitch maybe?
Didn't he want to see Humanity advance to the next age?
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>>4727530
>society has moved beyond the need for fantastical stories.

So what happens if we tell him he's a fantastical story?
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>>4727532
He'll debate you, he loves arguments normally.
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>>4727534
He'd lose though.
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>>4727538
[Speech 100] You don't exist give me big sis gf back.
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>>4727540
>>4727538
Letting him run his mouth might be a good chance to Erosion him
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>>4727532
Tesla was a real-ass dude in Isekaibro's universe too though
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>>4727542
Real ass dudes don't shoot lightning from their fingertips like Palpatine.
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>>4727543
It's not him, it's his constructs producing it. He's all tech
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>>4727545
He's a corruption of a real figure made to sell digital currency to thirsty fujos.
Far more depressing than what Drac has to deal with.
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>>4727531
I don't know if Mystery and Science can co-exist per se, but maybe we can rig up something to still allow for magecraft?

If we have like all these Casters, maybe a Grail's worth of magical energy at least, we could maybe try creating a Truth based Foundation, with some kind of non-magic circuit based access, if we really want to gamble on trying to usher in a new Age...

AoG magic just used your relation to a Divine Spirit to access resources, and wasnt like Solomon's kinda illegal access.

Since it can do stuff like seemingly make a Dragon and incarnate goddesses, make we can make a Foundation that humanity can "objectively" observe and prove, slotting it into "science", even if its clearly supernatural.

That is, if we really want bigger goals than conquering Britain/the world. It can also just not work of course, its really very wild speculation.

Also, God-inspired Solomon made this magecraft style, we are blessed by God, good sign?
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>>4727546
I get telling Monica about Shinji's true existence, but Monica while controlled by Manaka might be a bit of a risk. Whoever hears about Shinji's origins first is going to go through a fair bit of existential dread
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>>4727549
I mean, that is if they believe he is objectively correct and its not just his own biewpoint, I guess.

Even if they are Touko grade big brain and go "its an eldritch being", it could just be a different kind of "Order" or mindset if its true.
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>>4727548
When sufficiently advanced tech is indistinguishable from magic.
Look at the robogods.
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I wonder which Lostbelt or Singularity would be hardest to complete for Shinji.
Which would be easiest?
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>>4727554
True, but I kinda want to see what "scientifically confirming" a kind of magic would do to the Human Order. Derail Gil's and Merlin's vision to go even further? Where instead of turning it into science, science itself would confirm something supernatural.

Otherwise even if they learn the 3rd Magic as science, it will merely be something that was natural but not understood that was understood, instead of genuinely supernatural to that perception, I think.
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>>4727556
Actually there's multiple things that need to be answered about how this would work.
There's really three ways to go about doing so.
>there in addition to Mash and Ritsuka
>Shinji and one ally replace them
>Shinji and allies replace all allied Servants.
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>>4727532
I'd caution against debating Tesla on the nature of reality. Manaka probably isn't listening in or she'd have intervened before, but Monica and our other friends might catch existential despair by accident. We don't want that, do we?

IF we must debate someone, it should be Sasaki alone. He'll have a laugh.
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>>4727559
That just gives you Spiritron Hacking.
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>>4727556
Ivan's pretty strong but could be killed early before he wakes.

Surtr could be killed before being allowed to manifest. Just purge Sigurd asap

Grand Chink is based and dangerous, but Shinji knows about his global surveillance network's loopholes. If he was ever suspicious of Shinji though he could just delete him from orbit. Telling the emperor about the Fantasy tree hidden in his treasury would ultimately still lead to a 1v1 me standoff as Qin aims to prove which history is worthy to continue. He's an immediate ally once bested though.

Arjuna is a monster, but Shinji could tank his Mahapralaya resets. Arjuna can actually be talked to as well, Douman is pulling the strings there. Douman might be able to be truth deleted here or in Shimousa to prevent him enabling lb 5.5 to ever even happen.

Greece actually has based Kirsha trying to achieve something similar to Shinji.

The powerlevels in singularities 1-4 are pathetic in comparison to the current war. Fafnir is free dragon blood too. The only risk here is London, as Solomon lets Chaldea go here because he thinks they're pathetic. So I imagine the Solomon battle happens right here, but he hasn't charged up enough by this point to unload Ars Almadel Salomonis. Goetia's negasummon just deletes all allies that aren't incarnated though so this is a huge blow.

Camelot is a joke, Truth tanks Rhongobongo. Babylonia just has Sakura vore Tiamat again. Time Temple requires Roman to Ars Nova, we could talk to him privately at an earlier point and tell him he needs to use it earlier to avoid a lot more bullshit.
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>>4727563
I think Atlas is basically already using Spiritrons, with Etherlite to connect to shit. And thats probably a very limited "understanding" of it, considering they still kinda have a corpus,
its just a computer ,they also arent perpetual motion machines
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>>4727566
Just take BB to chinkland and have her virus the fuck out of the entire planet.
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>>4727574
She needs to be really well tamed before that, you've just handed her the keys to the whole planet in doing so.
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>>4727575
I just want to see Grand Chink's reaction to getting hacked with absolutely nothing he can do about it.
We'll give BB a few headpats to keep her under control.
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Gimme 20 minutes to start.
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>>4727582
I remember those grailbook memes from the F/z airing. Simpler times in the franchise
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>>4727583
Before my time, I'm afraid. Guess I missed some fun threads.
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>>4727588
Much better generic Fate/ discussions on /a/ than the last few years for sure
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>>4727589
Oh jesus! that zouken face!
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>>4727512
Now that I think about it, wouldn't Manaka want to force a summon for Rider Nero, certain servants can force themselves to be summoned in alternate forms, Rama avoids being summoned as an Archer so there's a chance he can be reunited with Sita and Nero avoids being summoned as a Rider to avoid being summoned as Mother Harlot, but Manaka can probably override her wishes and summon the second half of Beast 6
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"Rider, we have no choice. We're going to have to bail on the helicopter. We shouldn't go after this adversary of ours just yet, we need to deal with the threat in the forest first. We need to escape as soon as possible. Would you mind summoning the Pegasus to get everyone to safety?"

Rider nods. "Alright, we don't have long till we lose all momentum and start spinning out of control, I've done what I can to give us as much time as possible, but we only have about twenty seconds before we start uncontrollably plummeting to the ground." Rider quickly leaves the pilot's seat and walks into the main seating area of the helicopter before opening the door.

"We're under attack, aren't we, Rider?" Saber has her sword drawn, though what she thinks she's going to be able to do with that in a setting like this is... kind of unclear. You suppose she could maybe use it to deflect a projectile attack if she weren't... well, in a helicopter. Even if she could deflect projectiles fired at her, the resulting damage to the helicopter would still be deadly to the other occupants that aren't as durable as her or Rider.

Sakura has already picked both Stheno and Euryale up, you keep forgetting that physically she's naturally become far stronger than a normal human should be able to become, without even needing to reinforce her own body! Sure, you might be able to overpower her physically if you reinforced your body, but the fact that she's capable of this level of strength merely as a result of the Beast dwelling inside of her in impressive nonetheless. She's not even tapping into the power of Tiamat at all, yet despite that, she's already far more powerful. When it comes to potential strength, the only people who really beat Sakura are Betty and Alítheia, and maybe Abby, and even then, you aren't quite certain. If Sakura is capable of restraining even Tiamat with her inner world, she should be capable of doing the same to any of those three too! Not that she'd ever lay a finger on the three of them, of course.
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Rider opens the side door of the helicopter, and already you're starting to drop out of the sky. Thankfully, you're not spinning out of control, but this still isn't great. "Everyone! Quickly, get on Pegasus!" Rider quickly helps Sakura atop the horse, before doing the same for you and then Shirou, much to Saber's chagrin. You can tell that Saber doesn't like having to rely on Rider to get herself and her Master out of this situation. Well, she's free to jump out of the helicopter to land on the floor while carrying Shirou if she wants, but that summons the threat of being shredded to pieces by projectiles that she won't be able to properly block in the air. Finally, Rider mounts the front of Pegasus, and the golden bridle of Bellerophon appears in her hand, and then Saber jumps on the very back of the horse. It's a good thing that Pegasus is such a large horse, otherwise it certainly wouldn't be able to carry this many people. Though when it comes to space, it's pretty clear that it has a limit of around five people actually sitting on it's back. Even now, Saber looks like she could fall off of the back of the winged horse at any moment.

Just as Rider is certain that Saber actually is secure though, she finally has Pegasus stop matching the downward momentum of the helicopter, and takes off away from it at incredible speed! Just in time for you to see another projectile fly upwards from a rooftop to pierce the side of the helicopter, right into the fuel tanks.

The resulting explosion tears the helicopter to pieces, and you can see large chunks of metal shrapnel exploding from the center of the detonation before suddenly, they all freeze in the air. Pegasus is already going at a pretty great speed as it flies from the explosion, but... "Rider, you... might need to take some evasive action." You have a really bad feeling about how all the shrapnel is lingering in the air, and suddenly, your bad feeling is vindicated! Blue electricity begins to crackle around all the floating pieces of shrapnel, hundreds of pieces of helicopter floating in the air, before they all begin to launch themselves in your direction! While Pegasus isn't at risk from the metal shards being fired at you, the same can't be said about his passengers!

>"Rider! Push Pegasus to his limits!"
>"Saber! Deflect them!"
>"Shriou! Use Rho Aias!
>Your magical energy hasn't fully recovered yet, but you can probably create a brief truth barrier to defend everyone!
>Write-in...
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>>4727617

>"Rider! Push Pegasus to his limits!"
>"Saber! Deflect them!"
>"Shriou! Use Rho Aias
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>>4727617
>>"Shriou! Use Rho Aias!
Rho Aias is hax, better use it so we get a clear view as to who's attacking us
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>>4727617
>Your magical energy hasn't fully recovered yet, but you can probably create a brief truth barrier to defend everyone!
>Recite the first line of your Aria to reduce the mana cost
Fucking Serbian autist. He can't eat Truth, can he?
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>>4727617
>>"Shriou! Use Rho Aias!
>>"Rider! Push Pegasus to his limits!"
Electricity + Metal is not good for Saber.
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>>4727617
>"Shriou! Use Rho Aias!
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>>4727559
>Where instead of turning it into science, science itself would confirm something supernatural.
>merely be something that was natural but not understood that was understood, instead of genuinely supernatural to that perception, I think.
This can happen in real life, where we live right now if current day scientists weren't all in it for the money and covering for each other in their pursuit of material riches and not new knowledge.
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>>4727628
>Recite the first line of your Aria to reduce the mana cost
We can start doing this FOR FREE with outing we have a RM as the downside. Sadly, not here. I don't want to out that to Tesla.

>>4727617
>"Shirou! Use Rho Aias!"
The power of Raw Ass will save us from this autist
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Reminder that Rho Aias is the perfect counter for thrown weapons and unless you're Odin or Cu, you aren’t getting through it
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>>4727636
Amazing how Coronavirus has been politicized to the point where society willingly shut itself down for a full year huh? All to form a singular narrative because apparently going against said narrative, or forming your own opinion is racist or something. This isn't /pol/ so I'm not going to post about this again.
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>>4727617
>"Shriou! Use Rho Aias!
The nice thing about bronze is that it's nonmagnetic.
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>>4727645
Its an energy shield because greeks are robot themed, not even bronze tho.
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>>4727647
Right, I sometimes forget how fucking stupid everything we deal with is.
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>>4727647
>>4727648
I'm pretty sure WhatIs confirmed the Greeks weren't robots here, no matter what you may have heard or seen elsewhere.
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>>4727647
Robot or no robot, Rho Aias is a conceptual weapon
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>>4727651
We're going with the idea that the Greek Gods may have originally been robots, but that was back before the White Titan broke them all and they were forced into more normal forms by the Planet, and all their technology shifted into magic.
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>>4727653
I think thats basically canon tho. All thats left is "jokes are deepest lore" tier like Bersercar being Zeus (robot) blooded Heracles' true form or something.

Only in lostbelt were they robots, where they won over Sefar(however you spell it)
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>>4727655
Yeah but recently, Nasu seems to be going all in on making more and more stuff robots.
Like in the HF movie, where robots featured in the Heracles flashbacks for some reason.
Sometimes I wish Nasu just made another setting to put all his sci-fi ideas into and didn't just try to cram them all into an Urban Fantasy setting.
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>>4727655
Alicides better be able to transform into AvengeRangeRover.
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>>4727617
>"Rider! Push Pegasus to his limits!"
>"Shriou! Use Rho Aias
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>>4727659
Imo, that ship sailed when in Notes people created A-Rays, Liners, Six Sisters and the hundred races with "civic technology", which also filtered Grain for a bit before it got too much.

Slash Emperor is thus technically sci-fi. Not to mention Black Barrel, and how it looks now even.
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>>4727667
Notes was fine because it takes place in the distant future, because technology advancing to such a degree that it is basically magic in the future is something that makes sense.
A damn sight more sense than randomly having the moon be a big computer in some timelines, or trying to retcon the Greek Gods into always having been robots, even though that doesn't make any sense with what was already established.
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>>4727667
Black Barrel is an alchemist invention from modern times
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>>4727655
Panhuman History Artemis still has robot parts though going by her final ascension art. It also makes sense as to why they picked a guy who was primarily a mecha artist to design her if that was Nasu's plan all along. Sasuguh mushroom
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>>4727675
I mean, while it may sound stupid, it WAS subtitled "Longinus" in the Notes translations I saw around, so who knows? The Black Barrel that is.
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>>4727681
We know what the Lance of Longinus looks like though and the Church would not let go of the fact that Atlas had its hands on it
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"Shirou! Use Rho Aias!" You yell out a command to the boy sitting behind you, and he's quick to move before the supersonic shrapnel catches up with the Pegasus. It might not hurt the mount itself, seeing as it has Dragon class defenses, but everyone riding on the back of it would quickly be shredded to pieces by an attack like this one. While the Servants would usually be immune to even an attack like this one if it were a completely mundane attack, there's very obviously a great deal of Mystery in the storm of metal shards.

"Alright!" Shirou turns about completely, leaning over Saber as he holds a hand out and grabs his arm with his other hand to stabilize himself as he begins. Saber is happy to hold him so that he doesn't fall from the "Trace on." He closes his eyes for a moment, before opening them again with determination, mere moments before the shrapnel collides with you all. "Rho Aias! Six large pink petals are projected in front of Shirou, six barriers appearing in front of them. Huh, six? On his first attempt at using the Noble Phantasm? That's... more than you were expecting! But you aren't going to complain, especially not as the shield easily holds up against hundreds of pieces of shrapnel crashing into it. The tremendous speed and power hidden in the small scraps of metal simply isn't enough to overcome one of the layers! Of course, that changes when a far larger pieces of shrapnel smashes into the barrier. The entire main rotor blades of the helicopter smash directly into the powerful conceptual defense, and actually manage to pierce through a single layer! Shirou is clearly affected quite a bit when a layer is broken, but he doesn't stop the projection.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Dx40srSmxY

"Come on, Rider! They've got to have an effective range!" You call out to Rider, Pegasus is traveling through the air quickly, but you fear that might not be enough. Rho Aias might be capable of blocking the storm of shrapnel that your enemy is capable of throwing at you. But they've already noticed that the way to break through the barrier is to apply more power to the equation. The speed of objects doesn't seem to be altered by their size! The fact that the assault has temporarily been stopped by your opponent would normally be a relief, if you couldn't see the reason why directly behind you. A ball of metal that is quickly growing as it follows after you, matching your speed and accumulating more mass as it does. Damn it! They must be trying to make it large enough to overwhelm Rho Aias!
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>>4727708
You want some cock?
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The already huge ball of scrap keeps growing, tearing metal fixtures off of rooftops as it passes them, air vents and air conditioning units are mangled to pieces as all the metal within them is pulled into the ball of metal, and as it grows, so does it's field of attraction! If that thing was to be fired at you now, it would completely break through Rho Aias in a single blow! It's basically already the size of a house! If this thing were to crash to the floor with the supersonic speed the other projectiles have been fired with, it would likely level all of Fuyuki, and it's only growing in size!

>"Rider! Can't Pegasus go any faster?!"
>"Rider! Turn about! Charge the ball of metal! We need to destroy it!"
>"Saber! Use Excalibur! Incinerate it! It should be safe to let loose your Noble Phantasm this far in the air!"
>Call Medea to help telepathically, her magical expertise should allow her to deal with the growing ball of metal.
>Write-in...
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>>4727717
>>"Saber! Use Excalibur! Incinerate it! It should be safe to let loose your Noble Phantasm this far in the air!"
Tesla could absorb Medea's spell causing it to fail. Ecksuuuu CARIBAAAAH!
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>>4727717
>>"Saber! Use Excalibur! Incinerate it! It should be safe to let loose your Noble Phantasm this far in the air!"
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>>4727714
Food only pls, no bully, no lewd unless u are seigi no mikata.
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>>4727717
>"Saber! Use Excalibur! Incinerate it! It should be safe to let loose your Noble Phantasm this far in the air!"
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>>4727717
>"Saber! Use Excalibur! Incinerate it! It should be safe to let loose your Noble Phantasm this far in the air!"
We have to do something about this shit. We can't turn around and we can't call Medea. This is why I'd have pushed for us to go after Tesla immediately if not for literal divine intervention.
Fucking Serbian autist. I say we demolish Serbia and salt the earth when we're done. Who's with me?
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>>4727717
>"Saber! Use Excalibur! Incinerate it! It should be safe to let loose your Noble Phantasm this far in the air!"
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>>4727726
Kosovo je Srbija.
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>>4727717
>"Saber! Use Excalibur! Incinerate it! It should be safe to let loose your Noble Phantasm this far in the air!"
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>>4727717
>"Saber! Use Excalibur! Incinerate it! It should be safe to let loose your Noble Phantasm this far in the air!"

>he's manipulating projectiles hundreds of meters away from him
Bullshit. What a fucking cheater.
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>>4727726
>salt the earth when we're done
Yugoslav wars already happened.
Serbia already has poisoned land due to depleted uranium bombing from USA.
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>>4727717
>"Saber! Use Excalibur! Incinerate it! It should be safe to let loose your Noble Phantasm this far in the air!"
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>>4727730
Acceptable. We'll demolish that too.
>>4727739
People still live there. Not good enough.
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>>4727743
Have Tesla experience mpreg, via impregnating Monica while he's still trapped in her body. There, reparations complete.
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>>4727746
I don't think Monica would appreciate his autistic screeching in her mind all that much. And she's the one woman we can rely on to help us navigate the Shinjibowl without being torn to pieces, let's not ruin that please.
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>>4727759
Nigga Monica is IN the Shinjibowl, she's just pretending that she isn't. She's Touko but with slightly more grounded expectations towards us. She's be the only one in the harem who could handle us saying "no" to her without a emotional meltdown or ending the world in their rampage.
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>>4727717
>"Saber! Use Excalibur! Incinerate it! It should be safe to let loose your Noble Phantasm this far in the air!"
Fuck off Chuck Testa
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>>4727761
She wasn't among the thirteen. She qualifies to be a contestant, but she refuses to participate. She is the one human we know who's emotionally mature enough to realise what a bad idea this is and offer us some good advice.

She even warned us when we were still a kid.
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>>4727761
>She's be the only one in the harem who could handle us saying "no" to her without a emotional meltdown or ending the world in their rampage.
Out of curiosity, what's the order of obsession with Shinji in the the girls? With Sakura being at the top obviously.
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>>4727767
My guess
>Sakura
>Tamamo
>Medea
>Illya
>Medusa
>Satsuki
>Ciel
>Shuten
>Mordred
>Rin
>Giselle
>Arcueid
>Touko
I am very sure about the top and bottom of the list, less certain about those in the middle.
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>>4727781
>Sacchin that low
>Rin that high
I agree with the rest though.
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>>4727781
You forgot someone... how would... Alaya feel? A part of her abandoned all timelines and universes for us after all. Would she... delete this world?
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>>4727759
QM implied that Monica wasn't in Shinjibowl because she doesn't like being in water on account of her magecraft

>>4727781
Sacchin is definitely number 4 man, Rin is 3rd to last and we don't know enough about Ciel and her feelings beyond her just having a crush so i would put her on 2nd to last
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>>4727787
Alaya is basically all of the girls on the list
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>>4727781
>Arcueid that low
Grave mistake.
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>>4727761
ok your downplaying Rin and Ciel, they more or less have their head on straight and wouldn't have a meltdown over us declining their advances, i would say Touko would too but she murders friends if they call her by her nickname and she's kind of a "take what you want" sorta person
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>>4727767
>Neco-Arc
>Ultimate Sacchin
>Magical Amber
>Blonde Rin
>Other Blonde Rin
>Cutest Best Wife Cos-Tamamo
> Interstellar Navigation-Purpose Ultra-Massive Mothership Celestial Sphere Type Space-Time Fortress Chaos
>MagiMari
>Velber 02
>ORT-tan

There, that should be everyone important.
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>>4727785
I wouldn't put Satsuki above Illya, if only because of their respective personalities, and I think Medusa overtook her very recently. I could easily see Rin being lower though.

>>4727789
We got 13 letters before we decided to go on the water park. Monica couldn't have been one of them.

>>4727794
Arcueid that low on account of her being too reasonable to get obsessed.
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>>4727798
You forgot Daquaneesha the Stealer class servant. Noble Phantasm, eat fried chicken. It's like Shuten's NP but it turns everyone, including Alaya herself into fried chicken, yum.
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>>4727799
again, QM implied that the only reason Monica didn't show up was because we were at the waterpark, i assume if we tried planning the dates out without any one of them knowing, Monica would've shown up and ruined the whole thing
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>>4727808
Reread it anon. First we got 13 letters, then we planned the dates, and only later did the water park come up. And 13 women showed up in the park. Monica wasn't one of the 13, no matter how you cut it.
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>>4725101
>>4727811
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>>4727814
And how do you explain her not even sending us a letter before the water park ever became an option?
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>>4727815
ask QM
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>>4727817
I'm asking you, who are insisting on something that just isn't there.
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"Saber! Your Noble Phantasm! Use Excalibur! It's fine if you do it up here! We're high enough in the air that it won't hurt any innocent people, and if we don't do something about that ball of metal, we're all dead!" You don't really care how good that the Pegasus' magical defenses might be, by your calculations, that ball of metal being fired at hyper-sonic speeds like the speeds the other projectiles were capable of exhibiting means that growing orb of metal death would be equal to not just an Anti-Fortress attack, but an Anti-City attack! That's more than one step above the pay-grade of what the Pegasus can handle!

"As you say!" Saber readjusts herself on the back of the horse, and there's a burst of wind as Saber dismisses the enchantment on her weapon, the legendary holy sword itself, Excalibur. She starts to gather a great deal of her magical energy. If you hadn't given Shirou at least a few tips on how to be a better magus, Saber wouldn't be able to use Excalibur like this without risk of disappearing entirely! Thankfully though, you got Shirou learning how to use his actual circuits at a younger age, and they didn't have nearly as much time to atrophy, meaning that he can show off more talent as a magus, even if he can only make swords, shields and weaponry anyway.

"Everyone! Hold on!" You give a command to the rest of your allies as Saber starts to glow with a great amount of magical energy, or rather, her sword does. Shining like a great golden beacon of light as Saber rapidly charges the blade with as much Magical Energy as she is capable of putting forth. Shirou disables Rho Aias as he gets back behind Saber.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4TMyHTLsoQ

"EX..." Saber raises her blade just as the great metal orb finally flies forwards, towards you and your allies, the speed at which it is traveling is absolutely ludicrous, and for a moment you think that Saber won't make it in time... "CALIBUUUUUR!" A wave of golden energy is fired forth from the blade as it collides with the metal orb of destruction which is speeding towards you, and despite the ball of metal having more potential power within it, if it were to be given the chance to impact something, it is of no match to the purging light that makes up the blast of the Holy Sword, and the metal orb is erased by the blast completely, offering no resistance to Saber's attack. Despite having such a great deal of energy packed within it, that orb could never have pierced through the light of Excalibur, which vaporized even the metal nearly instantly upon touching it, leaving nothing behind after the tremendous attack.
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"Nice work! Saber!" Shirou hugs the woman a little awkwardly, seeing as she's still sitting behind him, but it causes the woman to blush ever so slightly anyway. Thankfully, after the attack is erased by the light of Excalibur, your mystery assailant stops your attacks. Of course, you're only referring to them as a mystery assailant because you didn't see their face directly, but there's really no question as to how could've been behind these attacks. Monica. Or rather, whatever Heroic or Divine Spirit is possessing Monica was behind this. It absolutely has to be somebody with a strong relation to lightning, and you're more leaning towards Tesla. You doubt somebody like Zeus or Indra or a God with domain over lightning would so readily start to use the forces of electromagnetism to attack an opponent with. That's definitely the sort of attack only a true genius would opt for. A god meanwhile would probably just opt to use bigger lightning bolts cast from the sky. Not unless Monica's tactical ingenuity was adopted completely by whatever is puppeteering her body about

You look around the surrounding rooftops, and can't see any signs of Monica, or any enemy Servant, for that matter. They must be completely out of range now. "Alright, I think we're in the clear." Whatever the Servant was trying to do, it has failed completely. They may have managed to delay you for a few minutes, maybe, but that's not really that big a deal. Though Shirou and Saber are now both almost entirely out of magical energy. Which is... kind of annoying, but you suppose you have more than enough allies on your side already, so it's not a big deal if Shirou and Saber have to rest at Rin's house.

With the threat of the unknown attacker gone, the Pegasus quickly completes the rest of the journey back to Rin's house and soon enough lands in front of the doors leading into Rin's home. All of your allies dismount the horse, which disappears into particles of golden light as Medusa dismisses it for the moment. It's also at this moment that the two sleeping girls being carried by Sakura finally decide to wake up.

"Huh? Where... are we? Wait a minute, you again?!" One of the sisters speaks as she looks up to see the woman carrying the two of them. "This place wasn't on the Shapeless Isles! Where have you manage to take us!?" Wow, the two girls almost instinctively stopped looking at Sakura and started to glare at you.

>"Now that's not a very nice way to talk to the guy who brought you back to life."
>"Welcome to Japan, the lands of the far east."
>"Sakura, please feel free to gag them."
>"You two need to learn how to be more polite when you aren't getting your own way."
>Write-in...

AND

>Choose an ally to meet up with first now that you're back at base. (Who?)
>Write-in...
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>>4727831
>>"Now that's not a very nice way to talk to the guy who brought you back to life."
>>"Welcome to Japan, the lands of the far east."
AND
>Choose an ally to meet up with first now that you're back at base. (Who?) Everyone, we are all going to go back to Shinji's Mansion, and we need to check on the progress of the map.
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>>4727831
>>"Now that's not a very nice way to talk to the guy who brought you back to life."
>>"Welcome to Japan, the lands of the far east."
>>Choose an ally to meet up with first now that you're back at base.
>>Medea
She was doing magic stuff with Tamamo and Morgan so may well check up on that first
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>>4727831
>"Welcome to Japan, the lands of the far east."
>"Now that's not a very nice way to talk to the guy who brought you back to life."
>"You two need to learn how to be more polite when you aren't getting your own way."
>"Sakura, please feel free to gag them."

AND
>Choose an ally to meet up with first now that you're back at base. (Who?)
>Medea
Is there even a question?
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>>4727831
Cute angry lolis, and hangry Saber. Nice, Saber certainly is a gluten since she JUST had a fresh mana transfer before.
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>>4727831
>"To your new life. Welcome to the land of the living and far beyond your oecumene. No refunds."
AND
>Medea
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>>4727831
>>"Welcome to Japan, the lands of the far east. You're going to be living with your sister. Do be nice to her."


Also see if Betty is up yet, then get Waver and everyone together so we can plan how to put the snake god down
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>>4727845
W-Wait! Are we going to adopt two minor goddesses as our DAUGHTER?! I thought they were just going to hang back until Makiri industries could make them into social media influencers!
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i genuinely thought that would've been a longer battle, guess it really was meant just to stall

>>4727843
technically we interrupted
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>>4727831
>"Now that's not a very nice way to talk to the guy who brought you back to life."
>"Welcome to Japan, the lands of the far east."
>Choose an ally to meet up with first now that you're back at base.
>Medea

Should check up on waver again
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>>4727850
well that may come to pass as well but for now I was referring to them getting to live in mansion with Medusa and Sakura.
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>>4727850
Anonchama, your Medusa reps...
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>>4727850
rather not think about the implications of how that technically makes Medusa our daughter
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Put them on the maid duty.
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What do the two of them want now that they're free? Do they like atracting every man that talks to them? Do they hate it?
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>>4727863
Let's make BB babysit them
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>>4727864
both
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>>4727865
They're going to take turns smacking BB's boobs.
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Calling in 20
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>>4727831
>"Welcome to Japan, the lands of the far east."
>Choose an ally to meet up with first now that you're back at base. (Who?)
>Medea
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>>4727831
>"Welcome to Japan, the lands of the far east."
>Satsuki
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>>4727831
>"Welcome to Japan, the lands of the far east."
>Satsuki

We haven't talked to our vamp in awhile. Only giving her blood is not enough.
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>>4727653
>White Titan broke them all and they were forced into more normal forms by the Planet, and all their technology shifted into magic
We really need to thank Altera for this one after we meet her.
And thank Arc for preventing Chaldea in the next few scenes too.
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"Ah, well... Stheno, Euryale, welcome to the lands of the far east! Specifically, Japan, the land of the rising sun! You're a fair distance from the Shapeless Isles now." You wonder how well the two of them are going to adapt to modern life. It seems like the two of them only have knowledge of the Japanese language, and have no actual information about Japan or the modern era itself except that. Sakura happily stops carrying the two girls, seemingly glad to be rid of the two of them.

"Ja...pan?" The other girl repeats the name of the country. Clearly still not quite having managed to put two and two together about just what has happened, and why the place they are at is so unfamiliar. You don't know what was supposed to happen to the two girls, or what they thought was supposed to happen to them when Medusa left her inner world again, but you doubt that either of them thought that they'd be given a second chance at life with their sister like this. "So, you really did succeed in taking us off the Shapeless Isles?" The girl seems to be frowning, not happy to have been taken from her home.

"That's right, for now, Medusa is assisting me in fighting in a battle to save the entire universe, and it's also my home country. You are aware that the two of you existed in a world of Rider's mental construction, right?" The two girls look at each other before nodding slowly, they did realize the truth in the end, so you just wanted to make sure that they remembered. "I used my abilities to bring the two of you back to life... More specifically, I managed to grant the two of you actual living bodies once again." Now that you think about it, you just performed a miracle on the level of resurrecting somebody from the dead by incarnating those two girls with only their souls as a base to go off of. You hadn't given it much thought at the time, but if the world were to revert to a point where instead of immediately going to the Root upon death, human souls lingered in underworlds and afterlives, it would be pretty much effortless for you to bring whoever you wanted back to life in the event of their deaths. Unfortunately, in the Modern Era, no such things exist. Also, whatever god presided over the underworld or afterlife in question would almost certainly object to you doing such a thing.

"A... battle to save the entire universe?" Medusa butts into the conversation, clearly curious as to the meaning behind your words. You have to admit, it's still odd to see her without her blindfold or even any glasses on, but you suppose that seeing as she doesn't need to wear it or even Mystic Eye Killers anymore thanks to her new mastery over her form, you're going to have to get used to it.

"Apparently, that's the level of threat we're talking about with Manaka, the... girl who tried to corrupt you." A good reminder that even if Orochi has a great deal of power and is an enemy that you need to immediately deal with, Manaka is operating on a far greater scope.
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"I see..." Medusa goes quiet as you tell her just what is at stake, and just what failure will bring at this point. You can trust her not to allow that to happen at any cost. She has people she wants to protect in this world, and not just Sakura anymore. Medusa has too much to live for at this point to allow it all to come to an end. Of course, you aren't suggesting for a moment that Medusa would under normal circumstances remain apathetic to something that could end all of existence, her morals simply wouldn't allow her to stand by and allow such a thing to happen.

"Well, Medusa, I'm going to have to ask you to go get your two sisters settled in for now, and make sure that they aren't seen by any of the men who... aren't as in control of their emotions like Shirou or I am." Namely, Shiki and SHIKI, the two members of your faction who... have something of a history with losing themselves to those urges... well, it's a history for SHIKI and an impossible potential future for Shiki. After giving Medusa her orders and watching her enter the house with her two sisters, you turn to your own sister, you're going to go see Medea, but... well, there's somebody you don't really want her walking into without you to mediate. "Sakura, I want you to come with me, I'm going to go and see Medea and the rest of the Casters now, with any luck, they've made good progress on the item I asked them to create for me while we were busy with Medusa." You then turn to Shirou and Saber. "You two, get some rest, alright? You both used a lot of magical energy in protecting us all from those attacks." Hopefully the two of them will actually take your advice and rest up. Saber and Shirou are useful allies to have, but when the two of them are running low on magical energy, then they are practically useless in combat. No, it's better to have them try to recover a little bit before the next stage of your plan. It's around... 8:30PM right now. So the night is still young.

Saber and Shirou don't raise any complaints with your orders, and the two of them quickly scurry off into the house. The two of them better not be planning to do what you- you know what...? It's Rin's house, you really don't care what they get up to here, honestly. It might be a different story if it were your house, but whatever. You suppose that the world may be ending next week, still, you never thought that the two of them would really get that lovey-dovey with each other that quickly.

"Come on, Sakura. Let's go." You speak quickly as you head inside the house as well, and begin to quickly head downstairs, though as soon as you reach the bottom of the stairs, you spot a certain AI leaning against a wall boredly, BB must really be at a lost as to what to do with herself right now, when she spots you and Sakura walking down the stairs, she suddenly straightens up and makes her expression blank before Sakura notices something wrong with her.
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Of course, the first thing that Sakura notices is the almost perfect replica of her standing outside the room that the Casters are working in, well, it would be a perfect copy if not for Sakura's recent... growth. "Onii-chan... What is that?"

>"Oh? That? It's a puppet body I was working on for you, it seems to sometimes have a habit of moving about on its own though."
>"It's a life-sized mannequin replica I had commissioned for you, though the proportions are a... little wrong now."
>"That's BB, a hyper advanced AI from the year 2036 that originated from the moon, having originally been created as an emotional back-up for an AI that was based on you due to her becoming overloaded with feelings."
>"A pain in my ass. You have permission to say hello, BB, you may as well explain what you are."
>Write-in...
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>>4727954
>>"That's BB, a hyper advanced AI from the year 2036 that originated from the moon, having originally been created as an emotional back-up for an AI that was based on you due to her becoming overloaded with feelings."
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>>4727954
>>>"That's BB, a hyper advanced AI from the year 2036 that originated from the moon, having originally been created as an emotional back-up for an AI that was based on you due to her becoming overloaded with feelings."
Say it like its the most normal thing, like you are describing a mundane lamp fixture from Ikea.
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>>4727954
>"That's BB, a hyper advanced AI from the year 2036 that originated from the moon, having originally been created as an emotional back-up for an AI that was based on you due to her becoming overloaded with feelings."
Let's not lie to Sakura. It's not even that unbelievable compared to all the other bullshit going on.
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>>4727954
>>"That's BB, a hyper advanced AI from the year 2036 that originated from the moon, having originally been created as an emotional back-up for an AI that was based on you due to her becoming overloaded with feelings."

I guess at this point in the week this doesn't really sound outrageous at all, especially since we've been telling our allies literally nothing but Truth with very few exceptions.
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>>4727954
>"That's BB, a hyper advanced AI from the year 2036 that originated from the moon, having originally been created as an emotional back-up for an AI that was based on you due to her becoming overloaded with feelings."
>"And a pain in my ass. You have permission to say hello, BB, you have been downgraded from most insufferable person in our little faction. Twice. I am looking forward to your further progress."
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>>4727954
>"That's BB, a hyper advanced AI from the year 2036 that originated from the moon, having originally been created as an emotional back-up for an AI that was based on you due to her becoming overloaded with feelings."
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>>4727954
>"That's BB, a hyper advanced AI from the year 2036 that originated from the moon, having originally been created as an emotional back-up for an AI that was based on you due to her becoming overloaded with feelings."

>Hey BB, if Nyarly decides to loosen your leash at some point you might need to update your "assets" with your Self Modification if you want to have much hope competing with the original.
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>>4727954
>"That's BB, a hyper advanced AI from the year 2036 that originated from the moon, having originally been created as an emotional back-up for an AI that was based on you due to her becoming overloaded with feelings."
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would be weirder if we stated that we made a life sized mannequin of Sakura for no reason
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Whoops, turns out Extra takes place in either 2032 or 2033.
No idea where I got 2036 from.
I'll just change that.
Also, I'm surprised you're so willingly revealing everything about BB.
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>>4727954
>>"Oh? That? It's a puppet body I was working on for you, it seems to sometimes have a habit of moving about on its own though."
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>>4727976
I mean we have a literal god to deal with on top of Manaka. I think everyone being shocked that this is some advanced AI from the future given physical form is THE LEAST of our worries.....for now anyways.
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>>4727976
Well its Sakura, this isn't the weirdest thing that's happened this week and the alternative explanation is extremely odd
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>>4727976
We brought back two little girls out of Medusa's mind, and Sakura was okay with having Tiamat live inside of her vore world. I think the idea of BB AI clone shenanigans is an acceptable topic, heh.
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>>4727976
>Also, I'm surprised you're so willingly revealing everything about BB.
>"Hey I have those visions of possible futures!"
>"Hey, I just had a chat with my buddy good old Nyarly"
>"Hey, I just had a quick conversation with YHWH and he told me something about being messiah or something and I can now charge from holy energy"
Are you really surprised?
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>>4727976
Why wouldn't we reveal that much? It's not like we're telling them how we know this stuff, or the Truth about the world.
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>>4727985
You're terrible at keeping secrets.
It's a good thing that none of your allies would ever betray you, right?
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>>4727988
But we are revealing the secret of the ally who's bound to betray us to the ally who never will...
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Anyway, busy cooking, calling in 50 minutes.
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>>4727985
>>"Hey I have those visions of possible futures!"
Well this one is a lie cause the alternate explanation gives existential dread

>>4727988
we're too based to be betrayed
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>>4727990
Don't you trust this imouto, anon?
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>>4727988
We have a girl who can devour the traitor without hesitation if they laid a finger on us and said girl is 100% loyal to us, there is no such thing as a Goro Akechi in our party.
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you guys ever wanna reveal how we got isekai'd one day or are we just keeping that to ourselves?
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>>4727994
I certainly trust our real imouto, which is why I'm all for revealing the fake's secret to her.
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>>4727994
What if we told her that we played and made decisions as Hakuno in the Fate Extra game so therefore we are technically Hakuno?
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>>4727988
I like to believe all people we help like us and have solid stake in our success.
Or really smart to see benefit of working with us or at least stay on good terms.
>>4727993
>Well this one is a lie cause the alternate explanation gives existential dread
It was truth from a perspective of people native to this dimension.
>>4727994
Actually yes.
>>4727996
I think we should keep it for later, right after War at least. Unless we directly confronted with it and it is good move to reveal it fully.
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>>4728000
You'd have to reveal that to her yourself to find out.
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>>4728000
that would mean we're revealing the whole isekai thing to a hyper advanced AI with Outer god powers, plus you could say the same thing about Shirou or Guda
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>>4728000
>>4728005
99/100 BB here we go.
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>>4727988
I don't trust Tamamo or Morgan fully yet.

>>4728000
That's probably worth doing. Divulging isekai can be worded in such a way that you've lived many lives and retained memories of them all. Some of those lives involved scenarios and people that are present right now, so your prior knowledge has acted as a form of clairvoyance. That's why Shinji cares about all these people as he's watched them suffer and now that he has the ability to prevent the suffer he experienced in now hypothetical timelines.
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>>4728003
I don't fucking trust Morgan but she has a command seal on her

>>4728009
Why don't you trust Tamamo?

>>4728008
Soon(tm)
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>>4728010
Because she leads all of her lovers to ruin. Although we technically played through Casko's Extra/CCC/Extella routes as well.
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>>4728011
RIP to those guys but we're different. Also i thought she was another dindu nuffin
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>>4727954
>"That's BB, a hyper advanced AI from the year 2036 that originated from the moon, having originally been created as an emotional back-up for an AI that was based on you due to her becoming overloaded with feelings."
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>>4728010
Remember how Morgan hacked a summoning circle to appear? The command seal might be less limiting to her than we think.

I would also argue against toying with the insane homicidal AI's feelings and sense of reality. Nyarly might even think it's funny to give her back her powers right as she's going berserk.
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>>4728016
She is.
>>4728009
>>4728010
I think we just need to spend some social time with Morgan. And maybe Mordred at the same time.
She also respects Arc so we have some other leverage.
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>>4728017
yk if she gets to 99/100 she's gonna be like this the entire time, especially if she gets her powers back

>>4728019
Mordred forced mana into the command seal, unless she's just pretending, there's no way she can circumvent the seal unless she tries to use big brain moves like Archer did
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>>4727954
That's our new living onahole
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>>4728025
I'm ready for it
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>>4728009
suffering*

But drip feeding Isekai as "I've experienced many lives and managed to keep my memories, God mentioned he pulled me from a higher texture to help due to my vested interest in those around me" might be easier to digest for most characters than you're all characters in a game and don't real.

>>4728016
Tamamo is only healthy for Hakuno. Tamacat is better as a wife and is significantly less jealous.

>>4728024
Morgan has no real motivations or purpose left anymore other than proving she's better than Merlin. Artoria will be incarnated soon and has given up on being king, Mordred took that slot and was accepted by Caliburn. We need to try and talk to her during downtime, which we don't really have atm, to figure out what she actually wants out of life now. Otherwise she might get bored and go back to making drama because she's both fairy and female. Does she want to see and repair her relationship with her kids? Does she want the throne of Albion for herself to be the regent she was born to be but was cucked out of due to Merlin's meddling? Does she just want to properly dab on Merlin? He's around now so that's possible.
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>>4728031
>>4728017
Bruh big boobs and ass hours from to Sakura-chans. 1000% worth telling the second educated AI prostitute that we are Hakuno.
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>>4728041
I'd say yes, but not immediately. We're tipping our hand we know her exact origins, let her stew on that for a bit while we continue to push her buttons, then have a hero moment while she's depowered and protect her from something and at that point leak a bit more Hakuno.
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Are we meeting the others eventually too?
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>>4728044
We can just not be a dick to her, she'll at least have a higher opinion of us if we're not putting her down while she's powerless

>>4728046
Moon Cell, gotta wait
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>>4728038
The many lives thing is a decent way to explain, but we don't need to. They're already assuming we're seeing visions of possible futures. There's no reason to explain anything further, unless we're put on the spot. And we absolutely should not tell them they are not real. Ever. Besides, they are real to us. It's the NPC who are not.

>>4728041
We are not Hakuno, but even if we were BB did some even more fucked up things to him than what Illya did to Shirou in certain dead ends. BB is mega-Evil and insane. This is a terrible idea. There is absolutely no way this goes well. One Sakura is more than enough for us.

>>4728046
God, I hope not.
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>>4728049
I'm kinda glad the dialogue option majority have opted for isn't demeaning for her, it's just exposition dump with knowledge we shouldn't have from her perspective. WhatIs barged right out of the gate with Shinji smugly dabbing on BB right as she was introduced so I'd rather we didn't actively insult her. She is quite vengeful and Nyarly can release her abilities whenever is least convenient for us as that's what's most entertaining for him.
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>>4728051
yeah her sister and best friend are ok but we draw the line with AIs
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>>4727994
yeah, no. BB has no reason to be trusted with anything, let alone something of a delicate nature.
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>>4728056
BB already hates us. BB hates everyone and everything, but especially us. We're the reason Nyarly pulled her from her world. What makes you think that playing nice with the, I repeat, mega-Evil insane AI will cause it to not hate us?

>>4728057
What?
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>>4728056
idk i think it worked the first time we saw her, there's a line with Shinji and trying to sorta impersonate his sister and mess with Rin's emotions was crossing it. That scene also had her genuinely being surprised that he let her stay
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>>4728061
Because we are or were also Hakuno and Guda "in past lives" and we can break Nyarly's hold via Truth. We understand her better than anyone else.
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>>4728061
BB's whole purpose for existence is or was to love Hakuno as he actually showed her kindness. Her obsession with him is what gave her life as a separate entity.

>BB frequently claims that she hates humans, but when pressed she admits that as an AI she cannot help but admire her creators and genuinely wants to help them succeed; secretly, she also considers helping humanity to be a way to honour the memory of Hakuno, the human who taught her how to love.

>>4728071
Hi Hakuno!

Are you male or female in this timeline?
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>>4728071
We gotta add him to the list of people we need to save right?
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>>4728075
female obviously
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>>4728075
counterpoint:
>BB, who installed the divinity of the goddess Pele who is "violent, selfish, and kills those who get involved with her" has become "an S goddess who drives those dearest to her to death".
and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmpP0LJRu_I
Now imagine what she'll want to do to us.

>>4728071
Goddammit...
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>>4728071
Hakuno's been in cryosleep for 4 years at this stage, I wonder what Twice is doing with himself these days. We have no idea where he's located though.

Truth heal away the brain leaking problems and palm BB off to him. Maybe palm off Tamamo too.

>>4728080
I know Pele makes her a cunt, I mentioned it when she first showed up. She needs to be purged back to her base self to remove Nyarly's influence anyway. So if she wants to not be his jannie forever she'll have to let us scrub away her recent additions to her Saint Graph.
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>>4728084
She's already a cunt. Watch the video of what she does to Hakuno, who she's supposed to love, when she wins. Pele just makes her even worse.
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>>4728084
>palm BB off to him. Maybe palm off Tamamo too.
They don't have the Ayaka excuse that Gilgamesh had, also what's the plan if Hakuno is a woman?
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>>4728084
>I wonder what Twice is doing with himself these days
He's busy being dead.
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so we're totally gonna kick Mr.2030 in the nuts, right?
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>>4728088
That's near the end of CCC, before her character arc is completed though. BB in this state experienced all of CCC already, then the Seraph incident, and she's now halfway through timelooping Guda in Hawaii when Nyarly yoinked her here.

>>4728090
Tamamo doesn't care at least. BB can selfmod herself a benis too?

>>4728092
I wonder where the 1999 bioterrorism incident happened that killed him then? It was meant to occur in 'the far east' but there's nothing comparable from real history, only your standard shootings and bombings. We never did much investigation into sideplot stuff like the Amnesia Syndrome outbreak, and it'll have to be side-lined until post war as it's not nearly as pressing.

>>4728094
He died 5 years ago, we'd have to kick him in his data nuts if we go to the mooncell, assuming he was even recorded in this timeline.
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>>4728097
I mean, Tamamo also already decided that she wants us so there's no real way to pass her feelings on to Hakuno, likely can't let BB just run off either cause of her Outer God powers and Nyarly is probably using her to keep an eye on us or something
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>>4728097
She is still evil, she is still insane, she is still in love with another, she still doesn't want to be here and we are still the reason she was abducted. There is absolutely no way we can talk-no-jutsu any of this away. We might as well try to negotiate with Angra Mainyu or the zombie Manaka.

And if the Mooncell is confirmed to exist here, I'd honestly prefer if we blow up the moon and make a new one instead of getting involved.
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Oh and judging by BB's dialogue towards Parvati she should hold a very high opinion of Sakura.

>Hey! I see a wonderful, pure, and lovely heroine Servant who is the incarnation of magnanimity
>Wonderful. A regal blue Indian goddess outfit!
>Unlike SOME goddess of Venus, there's something unique and special in modesty. >Honestly, that form is my ideal!

However she thinks Kama dresses like a whore.

Summer BB has dialogue for Abby and Hokusai about their outer god links too, but this is while she's severely underestimating Nyarly's influence over herself.

>>4728105
>she still doesn't want to be here and we are still the reason she was abducted

Nyarly would eventually catch up with her without us around, she's not used to dealing with things stronger than her but she does respect authority judging from this summer dialogue (her current form):

>Please don't worry. BB may have more freedom than usual, but I will still uphold my contract. I will be completely obedient to those above me. That's right... Power and authority are absolute, correct?

Also I intend to palm her off to living Hakuno if we ever find and fix them, and let her know this. We already have OG Sakura with Tiamum BOOBA so I'd rather not get too deep with her.

>She is still evil, she is still insane
That's half the women in this franchise.

>she is still in love with another
Technically we are/were Hakuno and Guda, and we can offer her living Hakuno if she wants them.
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>>4728114
>However she thinks Kama dresses like a whore.
she's not wrong, but yeah, i guess introducing Sakura to BB will get the two to get along and keep her in line. Also you have too much confidence that we can just pawn off BB to Hakuno, Nyarly basically owns her now and whatever he wants, she has to do
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>>4728120
Nyarly will eventually become an antagonist. His shtick is always baiting and enticing with shiny things before bringing ruin to humans. So BB will need to be purged of his influence in time if we don't want her becoming an enemy.
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>>4728114
>Also I intend to palm her off to living Hakuno if we ever find and fix them, and let her know this. We already have OG Sakura with Tiamum BOOBA so I'd rather not get too deep with her.
I would prefer to send her back where she came from at the first opportunity, but I will agree pawning her off to living Hakuno is better than keeping her around.

>That's half the women in this franchise.
Not NEARLY to the same degree.

>Technically we are/were Hakuno and Guda, and we can offer her living Hakuno if she wants them.
We are not. We merely played as them more than a decade ago. We are not them, like we are not Shirou. We could offer her living Hakuno, but I don't see any positive in keeping her around even if she wanted him. And I don't see why she would want him. He is A Hakuno, but not HER Hakuno.
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>>4728124
>So BB will need to be purged of his influence in time if we don't want her becoming an enemy
I agree that we should do this but this will 100% make him an enemy of ours
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>>4728124
>His shtick is always baiting and enticing with shiny things before bringing ruin to humans
I just fucking realized he did this with us and Medea holy fuck
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>>4728126
As soon as Manaka is dealt with he has no reason to continue co-operating or being an any way amicable with us, unless he's trying to forge an outer god allegiance. Betty is effectively his younger sister so we're kind of like his step father at this point? But he gives no shits about anyone present other than Shinji, Betty and Abby if Yog happens to show up inside her again.

Everywhere Nyarly goes he brings despair and he's happy to wipe out almost the entire world population with super aids, or instigate nuclear wars because it's fun.

>>4728132
Nyarly is a cunt and it shocked me when I saw how happy people were to co-operate with him. He doesn't have any showing in fate outside summer BB so I guess people just aren't aware?
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>>4728132
https://lovecraft.fandom.com/wiki/Nyarlathotep

Have a read, he is very much bad news when Manaka is sorted.
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>>4728132
>>4728133
I find it extremely funny that public opinion of Nyarly changed from "He's a pal, he's been helping us" to "he's a threat" pretty much instantly after God's warning.

Also, it might be a good idea to check up on Medea for outer god space aids.
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>>4728132
>>4728133
We're just lucky he's focused on Manaka right now, I'd never do anything for him unless we were already going to do it before he asked.
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>>4728133
People were happy to cooperate because he gave us back our witch waifu, now that God warned us, we were forced to look at him from another angle. Also we have no idea what he'll want to do after the HGW is done, he seems to just be enjoying the show for now but that can very quickly change, especially since he has BB and Aife to be his enforcer
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Pretty neat coincidence actually. There's theories that the early depictions of Nyarly were actually based on Nikola Tesla in life. Maybe Tesla was an avatar of Nyarly?

From Lovecraft himself:
>I had never heard the name NYARLATHOTEP before, but seemed to understand the allusion. Nyarlathotep was a kind of itinerant showman or lecturer who held forth in public halls and aroused widespread fear and discussion with his exhibitions. These exhibitions consisted of two parts – first, a horrible – possibly prophetic – cinema reel; and later some extraordinary experiments with scientific and electrical apparatus.

>Will Murray suggests that this dream image of Nyarlathotep may have been inspired by the inventor Nikola Tesla, whose well-attended lectures did involve extraordinary experiments with electrical apparatus, and whom some saw as a sinister figure.
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He's most likely going to change events to up difficulty level just for shots and giggles. The whole reason he's here is entertainment and we're providing it without him lifting a fingure. Once it's over hell have to create more for himself.
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>>4728146
>>4728149
I also find it funny that Lovecraft's cat is the one warning us about Nyarly. But then again, I suppose there's no one who would know the Mythos better..
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>>4728154
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"That's BB, a hyper advanced AI from the year... 2033 that originated from the moon, having originally been created as an emotional back-up for an AI that was based on you due to her becoming overloaded with feelings for a certain NPC based on a comatose human." You cross your arms, staring at BB as you reveal the basic summary of her backstory to Sakura.

Sakura bursts out laughing. "Onii-chan, don't mess around, that's just... silly! This is just a puppet body you made for me, right? Did you pick out these clothes?" Sakura seems to think that you're joking about.

"BB, you can stop pretending to be a puppet now." You lock eyes with the AI, and a brief clash of wills starts up as the girl seems to be debating whether or not it would be worth just making you look like an idiot in front of your sister, though seeing as it's only by your kindness that she has any sort of chance at not being homeless, she eventually slumps a little, before she perks up a little bit.

"That's... annoyingly correct~! Yes, I'm the adorable BB-chan, your cute imouto and..." BB suddenly springs forwards to get close to you, you weren't expecting her to make a move, so you remain frozen in place for just long enough for BB to press herself against you, grabbing your hand and pushing it against her chest. "...Maybe something close-" BB doesn't get to finish her seductive sentence, as before she can even say another word, she's suddenly grabbed by something and tossed aside like a piece of trash, smacking into a wall, but not with a tremendous amount of force.

"I don't like you very much..." Sakura has a smile on her face as she suddenly brutalizes her copy a little out of nowhere with one of her ribbons. You're now stunned for an entirely different reason than before, not expecting Sakura to be so capable of such a vicious action from nowhere. "BB-chan"

The AI quickly picks herself up from the heap she landed in. "Urgh, You're... not anything like I was expecting." BB and Sakura lock eyes, before BB breaks away from the battle of wills again. It must really suck, being made completely powerless. "Alright, it looks like I might've... miscalculated things here. So allow me to properly introduce myself, OK?" BB immediately changes tact.

Sakura simply crosses her arms and taps her foot against the floor. You really weren't expecting the girl to act like this towards the clone, and neither was BB, obviously. "Go ahead." BB actually shakes a little bit after Sakura manages to give a simple go-ahead to the AI in a way that somehow conveys a great deal of menace.
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"I'm actually from a different timeline from this one. A different branch of time, so to speak. In my original timeline, the surface of the Moon was used by an advanced race of aliens before Human History began to observe humanity, and they created a system for recording every development of the planet, known as the Moon Cell Automaton, I am unsure whether this branch had the same thing occur, but a long story short, eventually, a different version of Shinji over there entered into the Moon Holy Grail War, and the Moon Cell created a version of you copied from its version of history to serve as both a Nurse for the injured, as well as a younger sister for Shinji. That AI was later corrupted, and as a result, it created me to serve as a back-up body for the emotions it could not properly process towards the person who saved them in their moment of need." BB sighs as she adjusts her outfit. Clearly she wasn't expecting Sakura to have a reaction so severe towards her, and though you knew her entire backstory anyway, it's still probably better and more believable for Sakura if she were to be told directly by BB herself.

"But that... doesn't exactly explain why you're here." Sakura still doesn't sound satisfied by BB's answer, though her hard expression has softened up a little upon hearing the truth from the AI herself. For Sakura, it's probably quite difficult for her to truly hate another version of herself, even if the tale spun by the girl is one that is terribly convoluted.

"Oh, that's-" You decide to cut BB off for this one. You'll be able to explain things in a more balanced sense here.

"She stole power from an Outer God, but didn't understand just what sort of Outer God she was trying to pilfer that power from. While it might've been OK if she'd tried to steal a little bit of power from one of the... well, let's say less aware, of the Outer Gods, she instead tried to take a part of Nyarlathotep himself and add it to her Spirit Core. The predictable result was that she's now basically become something like a Counter Guardian for something beyond the stars." Imagine being so dumb that you couldn't see something like that coming. BB might be a hyper-advanced AI, but damn is she horribly prone to poor judgment.
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"Hey! Don't make it sound like I did something that was easy to avoid! Besides, he removed my additions to myself already anyway." Well, that explains the lack of a tan. Was it really that easy for him to do something like that to her? Then again, you suppose that by accepting a portion of his power into her, BB... or at least this version of BB, has become something like an extension of Nyarlathotep. She really should've read the fine print before doing what she did. Or at least she should've realized that just because she can mess around with the components that make up her own being, it doesn't mean she should. You'd think she might've learned that after most of the Alter-Egos she ended up making would destroy her if given half the chance, that messing with things like that was a bad idea. Then again, this is the same AI who actually made an Alter-Ego that existed for the single purpose of hating the other Alter-Egos and then gave it the ability to eat the other Sakura based intelligences and steal their power for some idiotic reason.

"And you think that makes you immune to his control? Tell me, who is it that holds your leash right now, BB?" The girl remains silent, awkwardly silent. "Of course, you don't have to worry about being forced to act as a janitor of an Outer God forever, I'm sure that if you're lucky, somebody might be willing to negotiate away that contract." Or if you really feel like it, you're pretty sure that you might just be able to break it entirely, though that would almost certainly anger Nyarlathotep. You're certain that he wouldn't appreciate having one of his tools taken away from him without being asked, and you're... not really trying to anger the Outer God, honestly. While you don't trust him at all, you really don't need to antagonize him.

BB looks at you with hopeful eyes for just a moment, before she recovers a little. "Well, I would be especially thankful to anybody who could do such a thing." She crosses her arms as she looks directly at you, her voice is dripping with sarcasm, but then her tone changes back to a friendly happy one. "Anyway, now you know all about me, Sakura-chan! I think we should get along with each other!" Sakura looks at you, still not entirely sure just what she ought to think about this doppelganger of hers.

>"It's up to you, Sakura. She's your copy, so it's your choice as to decide how you want her to be dealt with."
>"I think we should put her on probation. She's done quite a few things in the past that make her... difficult to trust. How would you feel about your own personal maid, Sakura?"
>"I think it's fine to trust her for now. She's probably learned her lesson by now. Especially with those two additions to her Spiritual Core removed."
>"She's got no power, and is practically a hopeless NEET at this point, living off of my good will. Unless Nyarlathotep returns her power to her, she's completely harmless. It's probably safe to trust her."
>Write-in...
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>>4728184
>"I think we should put her on probation. She's done quite a few things in the past that make her... difficult to trust. How would you feel about your own personal maid, Sakura?"

She's gotta earn her keep somehow.
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>>4728184
>"It's up to you, Sakura. She's your copy, so it's your choice as to decide how you want her to be dealt with."
Her body her choice. Good to know it's just plain old BB without Pele after the conversation we just had, if it's indeed the truth, but I don't trust either her or Nyarly not to fuck us up when they think it's funniest.
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>>4728184
>>"It's up to you, Sakura. She's your copy, so it's your choice as to decide how you want her to be dealt with."
I'm actually okay with Sakura voreing BB and getting this over and done with if she decides to do that. Our cast is over inflated as it is, the only reason she's even here is because of a meme vote.
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>>4728184
>>"I think we should put her on probation. She's done quite a few things in the past that make her... difficult to trust. How would you feel about your own personal maid, Sakura?"
Sounds like good balance between not giving her a free pass and not being a total dick towards her.
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>>4728184
>"It's up to you, Sakura. She's your copy, so it's your choice as to decide how you want her to be dealt with."

I'm curious what she'll decide
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>>4728184
>>"I think we should put her on probation. She's done quite a few things in the past that make her... difficult to trust. How would you feel about your own personal maid, Sakura?"
Maid BB sounds based
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>>4728195
I really, really doubt Sakura has it in her to eat her copy right now.

But yes, I wouldn't mind either.
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>>4728195
Yeah but is that a reason to destroy her? By the same token we have a measure of responsibility to return her whence she came.
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>>4728184
Up to Sakura
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>>4728184
>"It's up to you, Sakura. She's your copy, so it's your choice as to decide how you want her to be dealt with."
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BB probably expected Sakura to be meek and a pushover instead of how she is now

>>4728195
Ok i know Sakura ate a vampire and straight up threw BB for being flirty in front of us but that doesn't mean she has the heart to eat some girl she finds annoying
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>>4728184
>"It's up to you, Sakura. She's your copy, so it's your choice as to decide how you want her to be dealt with."
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Also, I hope you guys realize we just had the briefest taste of what Sakura's gonna do if she loses us to someone else. And boy, we've been busy today, haven't we? Sakura hasn't even heard Tamamo and Shuten call us husband yet. And she doesn't know about the kissing. Shinjibowl might be going nuclear before the week's over.

Though her reaction was certainly made worse by it being a doppelganger of her who did what she fervently wants to do herself. It must have felt like a glimpse of returning home to see an evil clone has stolen your life.
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Well, I would like to write one last update to finish today's session off with, but I'm getting tired, and I wouldn't want the quality of the update to suffer for it.

I'm pretty surprised how callous some of you are towards BB though. It's all your fault that she was brought to this world, after all.
Poor BB.
Denied affection even from her Onii-chan.
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>>4728228
patrol thots before they get cocky, and if they get cocky, use your sister to throw them into walls.

She deserves to be treated like this, after that shit in the BB event I had to deal with. When kazuradrop shows up in FGO, I'll be doing the same to her as well.
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>>4728228
I would very much like to send her back. Right now if at all possible.
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>>4728228
I'm okay with her
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>>4728228
I like her i want her to be happy cause she's still Sakura
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>>4728228
I didn't vote for it lol, some other anons did but I think that they didn't believe anything would come of it. I only like one Sakura and she is not an evil AI who hates humanity.
>>4728226
The hussys better know their place in that Sakura is the main girl otherwise Tiamat's primal instincts will take over. Sakura is okay with lesbian threesomes as evidence with dialogue in HA about Rider, but the other female has to know that she's the main chick.
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>>4728236
She's not Sakura. She's an evil insane AI using Sakura's body as its avatar. She's a degraded copy of a degraded copy, at best. Believing she's anything like the original is how she gets you.
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>>4728237
Medea isn't gonna be ok with that anon, especially with how we act around her
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>>4728241
And that's how the Shinjibowl goes nuclear. We'd better hope Monica has some good advice for us after we get rid of the screeching autist in her head, because no one else can possibly help us.
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>>4728239
degraded copy of a degraded copy is still a little bit of Sakura, plus it feels wrong to bully or put down a girl that both has no powers or abilities whatsoever and who looks like our imouto, treating her with some respect and showing that we can care for her if she isn't so antagonistic and bitchy could pay off one day
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>>4728184
>I think we should put her on probation. She's done quite a few things in the past that make her... difficult to trust. How would you feel about your own personal maid, Sakura?
BB is NOT to be trusted. No matter what happens, she is never to be put in a position of power unless we PERSONALLY rewire her and bind her under a contract. As much as I adore her, she's a sadistic megalomaniac who will take the first opportunity she gets to fuck absolutely EVERYONE over.
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>>4728245
AT BEST, it's like 5% Sakura, 75% hate, 20% love towards her Hakuno in there. I'm not saying we should bully her, and we've pretty much stopped since her first appearance. But we NEED to be on guard, and we NEED to not let her get away with any of her antics. Remember, Nyarly snaps his fingers and she gets her powers back, ready to fuck us up.

>>4728246
Servant who hates you under a contract you think is ironclad is a story that never ends well. We should just send her back first chance we get.
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>>4728251
>Remember, Nyarly snaps his fingers and she gets her powers back, ready to fuck us up
Right, and those chances get lower if we actually treat her with some respect and show her that we can look out and trust her if she doesn't always try to be a massive shit stirrer. Who knows? Maybe she actually ends up helping us instead of being a pain in the ass

>AT BEST, it's like 5% Sakura
That's enough Sakura to not bully her
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>>4728251
She's not that bad. anon. Her bark is worse than her bite. Though her bite is pretty bad...
Well, she's not absolute irredeemably evil, at least.
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>>4728184
>"I think we should put her on probation. She's done quite a few things in the past that make her... difficult to trust. How would you feel about your own personal maid, Sakura?"
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>>4728259

If anything she could be an asset against Nyarly in future, she clearly didn't take too kindly to jannie duty.
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All I want is to see Sakura bully someone.
BB is a perfect candidate for that.
So in hopes of that...

>>4728184
>"It's up to you, Sakura. She's your copy, so it's your choice as to decide how you want her to be dealt with."
Let's hope Sakura comes up with the probation idea on her own!
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>>4728259
I'm not saying we should bully her, necessarily. Even though she deserves it, and the real Sakura agrees.

>>4728284
I will concede she is not absolute irredeemably evil. Her master, Nyarly, is easily an order of magnitude more evil than she is. But she's the most evil being under our roof, no contest, and we should not let her angelic face or her affably mischievous ways distract us from that fact.

>>4728289
And whose fault is it that Nyarly put her to jannie duty? What makes you think she'd take any more kindly to us?
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>>4728184
>"It's up to you, Sakura. She's your copy, so it's your choice as to decide how you want her to be dealt with."
Sakura is fundamentally a good person, even after all that she's went through. I'm sure she won't kill, or even really hurt BB.
Even if Yandere Sakura is kinda hot.
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>>4728296
Shuten straight up ate people and turned them into Oni and Morgan screwed over Artoria and Mordred's life. BB can get pretty bad but your overplaying it if you think she's the most evil thing under RIN'S roof and that we can't get her on our side

>>4728298
>Even if Yandere Sakura is kinda hot.
Amen
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>>4728305
Morgan I didn't trust, but BB I won't trust.
BB is, at her core, a spiteful, annoying, scheming little traitor
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>>4728184
>>"I think we should put her on probation. She's done quite a few things in the past that make her... difficult to trust. How would you feel about your own personal maid, Sakura?"
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>>4728305
Yes, I'm saying BB is easily more Evil than Shuten or Morgan. Shuten is just an amoral hedonist. Morgan is an evil schemer that we shouldn't trust either, but I'm not seeing anyone calling for us to trust her. We can't get BB on our side because the only thing she might want from us is to get sent back. And the moment we do that is the moment her usefulness to us ends, and the moment we declare war on Nyarly.

But I see you're a man of taste as well, like >>4728298. On that we agree with.
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>>4728184
>"I think it's fine to trust her for now. She's probably learned her lesson by now. Especially with those two additions to her Spiritual Core removed."

If we leave it to Sakura she'll probably let her stay but her gratitude would be towards Sakura instead of Shinji.
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>>4728322
>If we leave it to Sakura she'll probably let her stay but her gratitude would be towards Sakura instead of Shinji.
That might be more effective than trying to get her to be loyal to Shinji due to purple solidarity.
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>>4728329
Do you want BB influencing Sakura while she attempts to win the Shijibowl. It might lead to her being more aggressive or thot Sakura!!
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>>4728226
Shinjibowl will surpass all of the Holy Grail Wars in brutality and destruction.
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>>4728338
We're getting destroyed as soon as she has a moment alone with us already, I don't think there's anything BB can do to meaningfully effect that.
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>>4728322
>>4728329
Sakura almost certainly gushes about us whenever she can, explains why Medusa had a high opinion of us before we even really interacted with her, it might change BB's tune when she hears about how we act around people we care about
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We do need to spend time with BB when we can now that we have confirmation she is redeemable. We should be worried about her becoming the maid because team purple head already has two members a third might wreck us.

I wonder who is going to drop the nuke first? When the kids comes out Shinji better be out the city.
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>>4728341
This

>>4728184
>I think we should put her on probation. She's done quite a few things in the past that make her... difficult to trust. How would you feel about your own personal maid, Sakura?
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I think BB cares about Shinji's opinion because a version of him created her. She was hurt when Shinji opened up on her when she was on his door. Also I think it was said that she admired her creator and Hakuto. So she might be using SIShinji as a stand in for extra Shinji.

If I'm right then rejecting your own creation even removed by a timeline might turn out with it's resentment.

Plus were likely going to release her after Manaka just to get a weapon out of a likely future enemies hands, better to be nice to her now as an investment for later.
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>Sakura has a smile on her face as she suddenly brutalizes her copy a little out of nowhere with one of her ribbons.
We should totally have a fling with BB, I wonder how our allies would react to that, haha...
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>>4728350
Either Sakura and Medea come to a diplomatic agreement and share first place as the two mothers to our firstborn biological dragon daughter, or the world ends. As for who launches the first nuke, currently Sakura looks like the most likely candidate given our recent behavior, but this could easily change if we start being more openly (and non-brotherly) affectionate with her.

>>4728376
Nothing could possibly go wrong.
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>>4728383
>but this could easily change if we start being more openly (and non-brotherly) affectionate with her
This could very VERY easily go wrong, so hell yeah, lets fucking do it, lets kiss our sister
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>>4728386
Yes! I've been calling for us to do exactly that since the time there were only two participants in the Shinjibowl. We wouldn't have been in this position now if we'd been more proactive back then.

So, let's do it! Let's tongue kiss our sister right in front of everyone. And let's make a bet on who's gonna murder us first. Medea? Tamamo? Rin? Avenger at Illya's orders? Place your bets everyone!
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>>4728383
Once Sakura learns we've been kissing other girls, she's gonna be pissed.
I say do something about it sooner rather than later.
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>>4728403
yk she might not actually even be mad, she might start crying which is way worse imo, she hasn't even heard Shuten or Tamamo call us husband yet either
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>>4728408
>she might start crying
Fuck. That would be so much worse. We gotta fix this before she thinks we don't like her.
She's been with us for years, and we did nothing, and now random girls show up and get with us in days.
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>>4728415
well that only happens if she sees us kiss someone or she hears someone call us husband maybe
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>>4728415
Agreed. We took her for granted in the years after we evicted Zouken. Our antics today are the final straw. It's time we paid the piper.
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>>4728417
How long do you think we can avoid the Truth? I'm giving us five minutes, tops.
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>>4728419
well we kissed Medea for no reason other than pure romantic ones and Tamamo is with Medea right now so.... If Sakura follows us to where they set up shot, it ain't lookin good

>>4728418
i don't wanna make her cry bros
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>>4728415
In our defense it's usually not the brother's responsibility to initiate sexual relations with his adoptive sister and it's actually a faux pa to do so.
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>>4728184
>"I think it's fine to trust her for now. She's probably learned her lesson by now. Especially with those two additions to her Spiritual Core removed."

I am ready to gamble. Also, if you think we can escape this tangle of relationships, I don't know what to tell you. We need to either accept death or just become super-immortal, or turn on our EX Charisma.
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>>4728422
>i don't wanna make her cry bros
Me neither. We need make it right by her, and we need to do it fast.

>>4728425
There's nothing usual about our situation. It's just an excuse and you know it.
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>>4728430
Sorry, but Sakura is only an "eh" from me, and would be one of the worst route locks. My suggestion is to ride the wave until we can, and enjoy the ride.

Maybe when we die, we could go to the Throne and get Independant Manifestation if we survive long enough beforehand, if we're very lucky. Truth self-incarnating.

That is a much more realistic goal.
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>>4728428
I honestly think it can be done. It just can't be done without breaking some hearts at this point. But we have to stop postponing it and ESPECIALLY we have to stop fooling around, it's only making things worse.
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>>4728441
Problem personally I'd rather...not do that. And if we were absolutely required it wouldn't be in favor of Sakura.
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>>4728437
>>4728444
And that's why we're in this mess. This is not a problem we can magic away. Or do you really think the harem will work nicely?
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>>4728449
Personally for me, route locking heart break is < dying.
At least dying can be potentially interesting by maybe clugging up the Root with out weird ass soul, so its more fun.
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>>4728455
If we're very lucky and famous when we die, we may even get summoned as a HS and can try Incarnating ourself. That level of wishful thinking is better than that.
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>>4728455
Dying with the dojo is no big deal. Dying permanently means everyone behind is left grieving, including our daughters. It's the coward's way out. And there's no happy ending if we really let the Shinjibowl get nuclear.

I don't care about dying either. I just want them to be happy.
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>>4728460
You ain't gonna make them happy by routelocking someone bro. Its perfect victory or absolute failure here. The ideal to chase after.
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>>4728437
we're already route locked with Sakura (and Medea) we have a child with her
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>>4728463
Rather to elaborate, I believe in securing either perfect victory or to die trying. Settling for a """victory""" such as you describe is no victory at all in my opinion, but like a damn "Normal End", which is a failure state by any other name.

I'd sooner do Nyarly's ascension ritual than that, even though I know there are likely not many, if any, who agree with that.
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>>4728463
There is no perfect victory here. There is no way to make a 13-girl (so far) harem work. Think about it, it's two days a month and some change for each girl. What kind of relationship is this? How could it possibly make any of them happy? No, this way lies only ruin and despair.
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>>4728475
we'll call Shirou, Shiki and SHIKI and do the math
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Really I don't think we need to address the harem chicanery right now, the current state of things should last until we finish the job.
Regarding what that solution may be, I'd like to point out that wanting to routelock at this point is even more foolish and cowardly than any form of running away could be, especially if it's to spare the girls heartache.
The ship sailed on that when we didn't put a baby in any of the pre-war waifus because now trying to commit to one girl is going to wreak havoc on the rest.
A lot of them won't respect it at all and the ones that do will cry about it a lot, and some will most likely go dark and start wrecking shit.
I haven't even mentioned the consequences for us personally, but I'm sure you can imagine what would happen if one of the groomers, kidnappers, and rapists we spurned get their hands on us.
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>>4728475
Then despair it shall be, for it is despair all the same. You imagine your way would not result in despair?

I jokingly offered something like Saber Astolfo's Imaginary Numbers based self-cloning, where there is no "original" and you also propagate endlessly.

The illusion of "good enough" and "avoiding despair" are traps themselves, for you deceive yourself if you think thats a "happy" ending.
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>>4728475
God says there was. Ye of little faith.
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>>4728515
Both Gods actually, maybe the doomsayers need to give hope a chance?
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>>4728517
yeah and God's main man Solomon had 1000 wives, he might be onto something
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The only way this harem works is if its Polyamours. There is no way Shinji has time for all these women so they'll have to entertain eachother. All the FSN routes with two women end in Polyamoury now that I think about it.

As for route lock we've already locked Sakura, Madea, Shuten, Medusa and Saachan. Everylme else can be navigated around.

Mordred is in denial calling mc her advisor so hopefully that bullet is dodged entirely. Touko thinks she is too old and out of the game, same for Monica. I'm not sure what's going through vamp princess head but she's a big girl and probably will take rejection well if she feels that way. Fox wife loves anyone that will come along.
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I wonder if Solomon is giving classes. He had 100 wives right? Maybe he can help with this clusterfuck. He's still alive according to god. At least his FGO incarnation should be peacefully alive.
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>>4728524
>big girl. take rejection well

She heavily implied if not outright said, she'll follow us around for eternity, or at least as long as we live, iirc. I'd take that as another lock
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>>4728536
Chances are that Satsuki or Arc turn us if they feel like we're in a situation that we won't be able to comeback from
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Is A disorder a thing for this quest? If we're feeling extra suicidal we can look for that girl that gets stronger depending on what she fights.
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>>4728541
I'm not really against being a Dead Apostle per se, but I remember that only in some circumstances do we retain our mind, so hopefully those are it.
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>>4728184
>"I think we should put her on probation. She's done quite a few things in the past that make her... difficult to trust. How would you feel about your own personal maid, Sakura?"
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>>4728545
Maybe...? I have seen some weird speculation that connects Origa Memorial Institute to Olga Marie, due to one character being "Marine Origa". One dude is also called Meruka Kuramitsu which was a guy in KnK so something weird probably is going, I guess?

Depends on the connection between all these weird ass distant pieces. Depends on what speculation you accept I guess.
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I think the romance stuff will work out one way or another, if only because it would be awkward if our triumphant victory over Manaka(s) is immediately followed by a dozen crying girls being generally miserable.
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>>4728581
we just need to make all of then like each other as friends so they don't think of killing each other.
A war is quite good for that.
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>>4728184
>>"It's up to you, Sakura. She's your copy, so it's your choice as to decide how you want her to be dealt with."
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>>4728133
>>4728138
I think you are misjudging Nyarly here. Not because who he is but because who we are.
We are heavily favoured by Azathoth and he consider us to be similar being to Outer Gods. And not a some human who dabbled with things far beyond him.
Nyarly is far from benevolent and most of his appearance in any media portrait him as antagonistic force but as long as we are not in position of those schmucks it should be more or less fine.
Might have to call that favor he will own us just to ask him not to play around in this world through.
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>>4728524
Solomon had the wisdom of God guiding him. We don't. I will agree we should try to start letting girls down gently and stop making moves on them. That's pretty much exactly what I've been trying to say.

>>4728528
Solomon lived a normie life and died 200 years ago according to God. If we want advice, it's Monica or bust.
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>>4728747
He had a family too, would it be worthwhile to go look his records up after the War, or are we gonna full Mode Red's Island Adventure afterwards
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>>4728753
Well, we need to conquer Britain, something to do with the Oni villages, deal with bringing back two goddesses and a dragon, deal with the Church and stealing from them, deal with probably fucking over magi secrecy super hard, incarnate everyone, deal with Einzbern/Illya's lifespan, maybe see if Strange Fake is going to happen, look into becoming the richest man on Earth to support our Servants' and our impending world conquests.

There is probably a lot of stuff I missed, but this is it off the top off my head at minimum.
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>>4728766
You missed dealing with the Clocktower and saving Kiara, but that should be everything important.
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>>4728184
>"It's up to you, Sakura. She's your copy, so it's your choice as to decide how you want her to be dealt with."
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>>4728766
You forgot
>lose our virginity
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I forgot if we know anything about it, but is the Moon Cell a thing in our weird amalgam timeline? Contradictory things already exist here.
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>>4728766
Out of these, the one with the most far reaching consequences is probably either revealing magic to the world or the Dragon probably.

Are we just going to...come out and talk about it? I am pretty sure the result would look neither like the Age of Man or the Age of Gods. Not that I am against it.
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>>4728779
Not important, we already have 3 daughters.
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>>4728800
Are we the male equivalent of the Virgin Mary?
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>>4728789
>Land on St. Peter's square with our dragon daughter.
>"Yo, pope. Remember when Moses challenged the Pharaoh's priests to perform miracles and prove who was the True representative of God?
>"How about it? You and me, right here, right now."
>"Can you handle the Truth?"
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>>4728805
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMzd40i8TfA
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>>4728805
Actually, due to being Blessed by God (even if its mostly Circuits), can we just...take over the Church? It's not like they're not horrifically against us by default due to being Magi, being friends with Dead Apostles, stealing the lance, the stuff with Ciel...But if we can prove that their church miracles are just absorbed by us, maybe?

Because I think otherwise we'd just get into an until death war against them, not like they can just let us crown Mordred as king and all the other stuff.

Or does it seem like too much for not enough gain, even if its possible?
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>>4728184
>"I think we should put her on probation. She's done quite a few things in the past that make her... difficult to trust. How would you feel about your own personal maid, Sakura?"
I think they'll be able to get along with each other.
>>4728789
I'm partial to a worldwide televised broadcast in the Lelouch style of "Obey me World!"
We can do that if we get BB to a level where we can trust her to hack the world's entire nuclear arsenal.

We long passed the time it was safe to Route Lock.
Hell, we passed that point when we didn't passionately kiss Sakura the moment we saved her.
She was always going to be obsessed with us, even more than she was with Shirou.
Now we've got so many girls after us we're like a reverse otome protagonist.
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>>4728184
>>4728428
>"I think we should put her on probation. She's done quite a few things in the past that make her... difficult to trust. How would you feel about your own personal maid, Sakura?"

Changing to this.
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>>4728813
Well, we ARE God's chosen savior of mankind and technically his prophet.

>>4728815
Mistakes were made, yes. Monogamy was dead and buried the moment we had a dragon daughter with two mothers, if not earlier. But can we stop making it worse and start working to pare down the harem to a more manageable size? It's not like anyone cares about having Rin, for example, right?
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>>4728839
>But can we stop making it worse and start working to pare down the harem to a more manageable size?

No.

>It's not like anyone cares about having Rin, for example, right?

Hah.
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>>4728839
I like Rin for the rivalry aspect of our relationship.
She's one of the few girls who will question us.
She deserves to be given a hyperpotential child to raise at least.
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I wonder how Shinji and all of our allies would react to Alberich and his allies/enemies if we went to do Awakening from the start.
How long would it take Shinji or one of his allies to get sick of Alberich's shit?
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>>4728846
We'd probably just ignore him because there's nothing we need him to do after the whole grail is fake and gay spiel.
He'd probably try to cheapshot us at the end only to realize Rift Slash doesn't work on main characters.
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>>4728851
Personally I feel like Illya and Alcides meeting bootleg Illya and that killstealing faggot Odin would be more entertaining.
Also Alcides just crushing Berserker Achilles would be nice.
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>>4728839
i like Rin and how she's the only one who gives us any shit and talks back to us, i find it enchanting
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>>4728839
>It's not like anyone cares about having Rin, for example, right?
Hey fuck you man.
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>>4728844
>>4728860
I like Rin too, but do we have to reduce her to member #13 of our harem? Look at Shirou and Saber, and how happy they are. Why don't we try to nudge her together with redman, for example? We wouldn't even have to do that much, he is still her high jumper deep down.

I guarantee you, she'll still give us shit.

>>4728872
She got 0 votes in the poll, man. Zero!
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>>4728877
>She got 0 votes in the poll, man. Zero!

I didn't vote for Sakura, she got a lot of votes. Does that mean I like Sakura more than the ones I voted for? Obviously not.

The limit of "choose 8" strikes. You don't need to be a genius for this.
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All the girls that aren't 99/100 with Shinji right now need to be paired off with other boys ASAP!
It's one thing to have a small harem, as much as it eats me up inside to even make THAT concession.
But 6+ girls? No.
I refuse!
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>>4728882
>All the girls that

RIP Lugh
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>>4728883
I assume his 99/100 is purely platonic, since he's yet to show any actual romantic interest...just general interest.
He's more fascinated by Shinji than anything else it seems.
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>>4728882
So...
Sakura
Medusa
Medea
Arc
Satsuki
Tamamo
Shuten
Illya?
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>>4728880
I don't understand how you could possibly misunderstand what I wrote by that much. Rin got zero votes. No one voted for her. Not even you. Sakura getting more votes doesn't mean you like her, you dolt, but Rin getting zero means you can't possibly like her that much. She is on no one's top 8. You don't need to be a genius for this.
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>>4728888
Your assertion was that since Rin got 0 votes nobody must like her, as a response to someone responding to "It's not like anyone cares about having Rin..."

This only makes sense if having 0 votes=nobody likes her enough to put her into top 8=nobody likes her at all.

The problem is the last connection, which is purely supposition and doesn't actually follow by itself.

Since this would mean that not being in anyone's top 8=being at everybody's last place.

If you were to say "Nobody like her THAT much" that could have been argued, but the absolute statement of not caring about her at all is, sadly, retarded.
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>>4728888
Rin hasn't had many scenes where she has got to be the affectionate caring Rin with us.
Rin shines the most when she's putting the person she cares for back on their feet.
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>>4728886
Illya is not 99/100 and I'm pretty sure Arc was like 98/100 last time we checked.
Tamamo will be friendzoned and she's gonna have to just deal with it. She can wait for one of our sons.
I'd say the same about Medusa, but her and Sakura are a sorta package deal anyway, so I'm willing to set her aside as an "official" side chick.

So the list would be
>Sakura with Medusa
>Medea
>Satsuki
>Shuten
Everyone else is gonna have to back off or fucking wait!

God, I hate talking like this.
It feels so damn gross.
This isn't about loving all of these girls, it's about placating them so they don't become dangers to themselves and others!
I mean...I guess it's both, but that still feels so damn scummy to me.
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>>4728894
>Everyone else is gonna have to back off or fucking wait!

lmao, sure sure.
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>>4728894
>This isn't about loving all of these girls
You should maybe clarify that this is your opinion. It's also very very weird to me that that's the part that feels scummy to you when you say stuff like
>Tamamo will be friendzoned and she's gonna have to just deal with it.

Otherwise if you think that's universal I suggest finding something where multiple people with conflicting opinions cannot vote at once.
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>>4728890
I'm not interested in arguing about autistic semantics like that. Especially what I originally said was "no one cares about HAVING Rin", in the context of our harem.

>>4728891
But why do we have to be the person she cares about the most? It's obvious she's not the person we care about the most, not by a long shot.

>>4728894
+1 on this, pretty much. Shuten already accepted she's below Medea on the pecking order, so she won't cause problems. Sakura and Satsuki talked it out with Arcueid's help. All that needs to happen is for the two mothers of our child to accept sharing 1st place and we're all set. as long as we don't keep adding to our pile of trouble.
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>>4728902
>But why do we have to be the person she cares about the most? It's obvious she's not the person we care about the most, not by a long shot.

It's maybe something like...I think I've heard of this before, something about opinions and emotions not making logical sense to everyone equally?

Something about differing viewpoints and interpretations and value systems. Mysterious. Maybe in her opinion that interpretation is not the pivotal point.
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We're forgetting Mordred.
Also Illya will absolutely be 99/100 when we give her Kerry back.
Somehow more if we can get Iri too.
Saber will be happy to see Iri again I think.
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>>4728901
How is telling someone 'No' scummy, as opposed to meticulously planning out which girls we should add to our harem, not because we really really like them all, but because we don't want them to go on murder sprees?
Like come on my guy, it's already been said. The players WANT monogamy, but monogamy is too fucking dangerous.
If we had the option of picking one girl to route lock, it would be a long hard battle, but it would be preferable to just letting every girl in the story have a turn on Shinji's pony ride.
But we can't do that. Because then they'd fucking end the world/or be heartbroken beyond belief.
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>>4728909
Mordred is reasonable enough that we can reject her, and she'd be ok with occupying our time as her adviser instead.
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>>4728910
>The players WANT monogamy,

This, at least, I am 100% sure is not universally true.
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>>4728911
Mordred hasn't realized yet that she loves us.
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>>4728915
You can't possibly believe haremfags are the majority, can you?
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>>4728910
You want monogamy.
You don't speak for me.
If you want Monogamy, tell Sakura we'll be hers if you eats everyone else.
>>4728911
>Mordred
>Reasonable
Hahaha.
No.
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>>4728911
there's only the two of you that keeps saying that they want monogamy i am pretty sure most of us either wants to reduce the girl count or fuck all of them.
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>>4728910
>The players WANT monogamy
I'm already lucky enough to be in a relationship with two girls IRL, and both of them want me and want each other too. This entire harem deal with Shinji vividly reminds me of my own experiences, minus people that would resort to extreme actions if not placated.
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>>4728915
Not universally true, but the majority has always been in favor of it and have been either beaten down or pushed out by the impossibility of it.

>>4728916
And if we're lucky, we'll find a nice guy for her to get into before she ever notices!

>>4728920
>You don't speak for me.
You're right, I don't and can't. Talk your shit and don't let me put words in your mouth.
But what I do speak for is the general trends and sentiments I've seen throughout the quest since it's started. If that sentiment has changed, then who am I to go against it? But don't act like monogamy wasn't king for the majority of our little adventure until it was rendered near impossible.

Also, Mordred is plenty reasonable the way she is now. Become the king of Britain really did wonders for her character development.

>>4728922
If that's the case now, then that's the case.
My statement still stands, with the slight correction of a past tense, "wanted".

>>4728923
I'm glad you're enjoying yourself and I wish you the best.
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>>4728927
>And if we're lucky, we'll find a nice guy for her to get into before she ever notices!
I'm sorry
But you sound like a literal cuck.
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>>4728927
I don't agree with you at all, I can't express it more clearly than this. I also think you are seeing patterns favourable to your own opinions where there are none.
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>>4728927
>And if we're lucky, we'll find a nice guy for her to get into before she ever notices!
I doubt you'll find her someone better than the guy who relazied her biggest dream and is acting as her court magician.
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>>4728917
I don't know what monogamy hardliners would be doing in a quest like this so I'd have to assume the majority can at least enjoy a harem even if they wouldn't push for one.
>>4728911
Mordred loves us as much as anyone else on the abridged list.
Remember that she doesn't know anything about relationships.
She's basically been instinctively locking us down by making us her forever advisor and tightly holding us whenever she can get away with it.
Her not understanding her feelings doesn't mean they'll go away.
Honestly she's one of my favorites because she aggressively pursues what she wants even though she doesn't know what it is yet.
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>>4728929
Anon.
We have 6 to 13 girls on Shinji's dick right fucking now.
How is wanting at least a few of the girls in his life to find love and happiness, that isn't directly connected to him, being a cuck in any way?
Is helping Saber and Shirou get together cuck shit? Are we bringing back THAT dead meme now?

>>4728930
>I also think you are seeing patterns favourable to your own opinions where there are none.
That could be the case. It's been a while since I've reread the whole of the quest.

>>4728932
Shirou was good enough for Saber.
It can't be that hard, we're not literally not trying at all because we have more important things to do.
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>>4728910
I do want monogamy but I want for all the girls to be happy most of all. Even if that meant some will be heartbroken for a while.

I think the danger of the girls genuinely turning to murder each other over this is negligible. I don’t think Sakura is going to vore anybody over rejection, with possible exception of Tamamo seeing as she forced herself in with her mental gymnastics, and maybe Shuten. But I simply can’t imagine her being in a spot where she’d go Dark Sakura anymore.

Of course there will be crying and hurt feelings though. That probably can’t be avoided, no matter what path we take.
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>>4728937
>Shirou was good enough for Saber.
Because we didn't interact with Saber at all, and when she was at her lowest, we sent Shirou after her and didn't try to meddle with them. In Mordred's case it's already too late because no one can surpass what Shinji did for her.
And while she might not fully understand what her feelings are right now, she tries to be as close to Shinji as possible, as often as possible. Remember how much she likes picking Shinji up and was reluctant to let him go.
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Honestly, the only girl I really don't want with Shinji is Rin, I feel it would crush their dynamic of her being the only one that doesn't always side with him on everything. I'd rather they just stay friends/rivals.
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>>4728937
It becomes cucked when you start ignoring the feelings a girl has for you to try get her to fuck some other guy.
It's worse for both you and the girl than just rejecting her and moving on.
Worse for the guy too because he knows he's second best in the heart of his girlfriend.
Nobody's saying Shinji is the only worthwhile guy in the world, but you can't just present some rando to a girl in lieu of getting to be with their beloved savior.
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>>4728941
Shirou was the only person autistic enough for Saber to fall for

>>4728944
I mean chances of her even going for it herself are extremely low considering that she knows Sakura’s feelings for us
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>>4728949
Yeah, there are genuinely very few girls already in love with us we could palm off to other people.
Illya could've gone to Shirou but no way is Kerry letting that shit happen.
Arc couldve gone to Shiki but we speedran that opportunity into oblivion.
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>>4728936
Fate is a monogamy franchise, and has been from the start. A few routes have a two-girl ending, but nothing anywhere near what you're implying. Haremfags have been a tiny, tiny minority for almost the entire run of the quest. The problem was that we couldn't agree on which one girl to pick until it was too late. And that development was very recent.

>>4728941
We are Mordred's Merlin. Artoria didn't fuck her Merlin. Mordred doesn't have to fuck hers.
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>>4728936
>I don't know what monogamy hardliners would be doing in a quest like this
It's a Fates quest, Anon.
These stories are literally built on having separate routes and dealing with the consequences of going after your favorite girl!
This story being an Isekai doesn't change that.

>She's basically been instinctively locking us down by making us her forever advisor and tightly holding us whenever she can get away with it.
That doesn't sound like love.
That sounds like we did her the biggest favor of her life and her inexperience with normal human relationships is making her confused on how she should take that.
The fact that she's yet to "realize, she loves Shinji", sounds to me like we have an opportunity to make the relationship purely platonic if we push in the right way, which is better for everyone involved.

>>4728940
>I do want monogamy but I want for all the girls to be happy most of all.
See, this is the sentiment I feel has come over most Monogamyfags, but instead of sticking to their guns, they simply opt to let the haremshit happen for the benefit of all the girls involved.

>>4728941
>In Mordred's case it's already too late because no one can surpass what Shinji did for her.
Giving her a loving relationship is one thing.
Also, I'm not saying that she doesn't realize she loves Shinji.
I'm saying because she doesn't realize we can explain to her why we can't be with her and find a different guy for her to try and fill the void before any of her romantic notions leave the lizard part of her brain and become actual thoughts and fixations.

>>4728949
How the fuck is that cucked?
It's passing off the buck to someone else, sure.
But how is trying to get a girl you don't like in that way with another guy so she can stop bothering you cucked?
That's fucking insane!
If anyone's the cuck in the situation, it's the girl in question and that's not what the other anon was saying I don't think so anyway and it's also barely true.
You'd have to really stretch the definition of cuckquean to make that work.
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We should take Saber from shitrou
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>>4728954
Counterpoint:
Extella
Grand Order
Hollow Ataraxia
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>>4728954
Merlin was literally Artoria's adoptive father, no fucking shit he didn't want to fuck her

>>4728958
no Shirou is based and I want him to be happy
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>>4728954
>We are Mordred's Merlin. Artoria didn't fuck her Merlin.
Because he was pretty much her adoptive father anon. Their relationship isn't the same as Mordred and Shinji's.
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>>4728957
>Fates
Secondary.
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>>4728960
We deserve all the women. We'd actually be able to make Saber orgasm.
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>>4728960
>>4728961
>literally
>pretty much
>adoptive father
Nope.
Merlin is closer to being Arturia's father than Uther is.
Merlin orchestrated her birth, modified her in the womb, and raised her.
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We should match Tamamo with Kiritsugu, she did help him, that's a good start. Does he like fluffy tails?
>>4728894
Basically this without Shuten if possible.
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>>4728954
>Fate is a monogamy franchise, and has been from the start.
Weakest argument yet for obvious reasons.
>It's a Fates quest, Anon.
>These stories are literally built on having separate routes and dealing with the consequences of going after your favorite girl!
I was referring to this being a Whatis quest, I'm assuming you didn't play elegy.
He likes to pile the waifus high and play them fast.
Mordred doesn't have platonic feelings, she's actively mate-guarding us and demanding that we belong to her forever.
>>4728958
>>4728963
Finally some good fucking posts.
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>>4728960
>>4728961
My point is, Mordred's sole example of a relationship similar to what we have with her was strictly platonic. This is what she'll default to. We have to try and make it something more, and we can just... not do that.

>>4728959
Hollow Ataraxia is not a counterpoint at all. Grand Order is stupid gachashit, and as far as I'm aware the protagonist does not have a romantic harem. Correct me if I'm wrong on this, but it still wouldn't change a thing. And I admit I am not familiar enough with Extella to have an opinion on it.

>>4728963
Yep, that's pretty much the attitude I expect from a haremfag.

>>4728969
I don't think Irisviel will appreciate that very much. Shuten, she might even enjoy constant flirting and getting bluebaleld even more than actually fucking us. It will be a new experience for her.
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>>4728969
I thought we were gonna get Iri back for Kerry.
>>4728957
Monogamy fags are seriously delusional.
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>>4728974
Harem fags rule the world you limp dicked fagguette
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>>4728974
>d-doesn't count
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>>4728963
Based
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>>4728974
>>4728975
Wait, we're getting Iri back? How? Can we bring other people from Zero too?

Unrelated to harem wars, did we ask Sasaki about his master? If not, it's worth a try.
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Wow, quite a few new posts.
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>>4728986
Morning!
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>>4728985
he's not gonna answer anon

>>4728986
protecc
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>>4728986
Don't you act like you weren't watching the shit flinging with a coffee in your hand and a warm smile on your face.
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>>4728985
It's not certain, but we might be able to pull her soul out from the Grail. And we can incarnate her if we have her soul, like we did with Medusa's sisters.

We should be able to unblacken all of the 4th war Servants that Manaka currently has, or maybe pull them out of the Grail instead after we secure it. We probably don't want them all though.

>>4728986
Morning WhatIs. I do not envy you reading through them.
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>>4728995
Gilles a cute.
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>>4728975
>I thought we were gonna get Iri back for Kerry.
I believe the idea is to get Iri back for Iri, Illya and Shirou, while Kerry being a bonus for all of them.
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>>4728986
Waifu wars will always cause 50+ more posts to spring up about arbitrary choices. All of the girls are lovely and perfect, its just that one or two of them would destroy the entire world if we say "no" and honestly ending up with the world destroying waifu is not the worst thing in the world.
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>>4729004
Pretty much, yeah. We should have a talk with Kerry about this being his 3rd chance, how he doesn't deserve it and that he'd better shape up or there won't be another.

>>4729005
I just want them to be happy, and I think most of them would be happier with a clean rejection instead of a mere fraction of our love and time.
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>>4729007
>Everyone stares in confusion as Shinji loudly berates a small teddy bear
>Shinji starts viloently smashing the bear against a wall
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>>4729049
The bear had it coming.
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>>4729049
Stupid bear, doesn't even come with a FGO webkinz code.
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>BB Maid
>>4728189
>>4728196
>>4728201
>>4728246
>>4728288
>>4728313
>>4728352
>>4728553
>>4728815
>>4728817

>Up to you
>>4728194
>>4728195
>>4728198
>>4728204
>>4728206
>>4728224
>>4728291
>>4728298
>>4728598
>>4728772

>Trust
>>4728322

How does a tie even happen like this?
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>>4729074
Coomers.
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>>4728201
>>4729074
Switching to up to you
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>>4729074
>"It's up to you, Sakura. She's your copy, so it's your choice as to decide how you want her to be dealt with."
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>>4728184
>"It's up to you, Sakura. She's your copy, so it's your choice as to decide how you want her to be dealt with."
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>>4729082
Why the fuck do I suddenly have a new IP?
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>>4729086
Router reboot? Just link to an old post of yours and all will be fine.
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>>4729089
This >>4728961 is me.
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>>4728958
>>4728963
I think it is the other way around.
Saber is a weak wife with subpar wife skills.
Shirou is constantly horny because Saber`s Excalibur can`t satisfy him after he seen Slash Emperor.
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Can Shirou/Archer trace Enkidu? Cause that gives me a few ideas
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>>4729130
Enkidu is a guy though.
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>>4729140
I'm talking about the chains and Enkidu based his appearance off a woman
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>>4729115
Either way we deserve No we require ALL the women.
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>>4729145
Enkidu is still a guy.
The chains are him though, and I don't think they could trace a person even if that person was also a weapon, not to mention that the weapons Enkidu becomes would be divine constructs.
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>>4729130
I think it counts as a divine construct so no
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>>4729149
The more the merrier.
But we must never lax our high wife standards. Only the most capable wives will do.
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>>4729164
Indeed
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>>4729164
So are we un-alter-ing all the 4th war servants? All the good ones at least?
I mean, that's why Waver came here right, to see Iskandar?
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>>4729170
we don't need 2 Sabers, Saber Alter can stay, she isn't even a bad person
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>>4729164
Based
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>>4729170
Ideally, yeah.
I am curious that Saber Alter will turn out to be.
I think she might turn out to be Jeanne Alter kind of deal. Manaka used rough blueprint instead of proper soul like rest of them.
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>>4729171
I doubt regular Saber would be fine with that.
Lancer Alter is best alter though. Especially after Camelot singularity tarnished regular Lancer.
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>>4729176
why would regular Saber want an exact clone of herself?
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>>4729170
Diarmuid, iskandar and saber alter can stay not sure about lancelot and hassan. Gilles needs to fuck off before he murders any kids.
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>>4729179
We can get Medea to cure Lancelot of his madness, speaking of Hassan, genuinely surprised she hasn't been sent to spy on us, unless Manaka summoned a different Assassin or didn't even bother with an assassin at all...
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>>4729182
You might be onto something maybe her sixth servant is gilgamesh alter since hassan wouldn't be that useful in this war.
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>>4729184
Gil can't be altered
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You look at BB for a moment, before you sigh. While you don't particularly care about the girl personally, there's still a part of her that is Sakura, so you don't want to condemn her or anything, especially not when she's not actually done anything to you personally. Sure, she might've done some messed up things to Hakuno on a few dead ends, but if you judged people based on how they acted in dead ends... Well, you'd basically be limited to having a good opinion on Rin and Rin alone. "It's up to you, Sakura. She's your copy, so it's your choice as to decide how you want her to be dealt with." You doubt that Sakura is going to be all that cruel to BB, other than slamming her into a wall for suddenly crossing the line. Honestly, if you ever ended up meeting another version of Shinji, you'd probably beat the absolute shit out of him, but you don't know if you'd actually go so far as to kill him. After all, he didn't exactly live a good life either, and while his actions are completely reprehensible, death isn't the solution. You're living proof that Shinji can become a good person, after all, at the end of the day, when you came into this world, your souls became entwined and as one. You wonder how much of your personality is actually your own personality, and how much of it was changed as a result of that fusion. You'll probably never really know.

"Hmm..." Sakura gets close to BB as she inspects her clone closely. "How should I deal with you then, BB?" She asks the AI, who stares at her incredulously. "That was an actual question, if I gave you a choice, how would you like things to go from here?" Sakura has a calm but menacing tone in her voice, honestly, it's really impressive how menacing the girl can act when she wants to. You're really surprised to see this side of her, but of course, you knew that it existed. Sakura wouldn't normally want to show this side of herself to you, but you guess that when it comes to what is basically asserting dominance over a copy of herself, she's far less reluctant to tap into that side of herself.

"I'd really appreciate just being given a place to stay before I can return to my original world. It's not really like I enjoy being in this place, especially not without any of my powers..." Oh yes, you bet that she'd just love being here if she weren't stripped of her abilities. BB would have almost certainly ended up being a third party that you'd have to end up dealing alongside Orochi and Manaka if she wasn't stripped of that power of hers upon being brought to this world. She's not got... fully malevolent motives, but she's the sort of person who would try to worsen a situation just for the hell of it. She's not as bad as she was in CCC though, thankfully. You probably wouldn't have even considered keeping BB if she were still the truly insane AI from CCC, the one responsible for potentially the most horrible Dead End in the entire franchise.
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Based on what we did with Shteno and Euryale, is Incarnating Servants just a question of enough magical energy for us?

If so, wouldn't it be enough to let Alitheia breathe as a dragon for a bit to temporarily revert an area to AoG, suck it up and just do it? Same with charging a Grail equivalent.
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"A place to stay? Do you... have any money to pay for something like that?" Sakura raises an eyebrow at her copy her question is framed with innocence but is in truth quite a bit less well-meaning than that. Sakura already knows that BB almost certainly has no money of her own to spend, otherwise she wouldn't have been trying to mooch of your goodwill in the first place. Well, she was actually trying to trick and mooch off of Rin, but the point still stands.

"Well... no... but... Shinji said that I wouldn-" Sakura cuts BB off before she can finish explaining that you offered her a place to stay so long as she kept quiet about what she actually was. You're surprised that she's not madder at you for immediately just deciding against using that lie almost immediately. It's probably better that somebody like BB is dealt with honestly.

"It doesn't matter what Onii-chan said to you, he said it was up to me as to decide how to deal with you, and I'm not just going to let you become a freeloader mooching off of Onii-chan." It's... not really an issue to pay for whatever living expenses she might incur for you. You have more than enough money, and it's not really like BB would be some sort of terrible drain on your expenses, but you're going to wait for Sakura to finish before making any comments. "That's why you're going to have to get a job, so you can pay your own rent." That's... not exactly what you were expecting Sakura to come up with. "But... what sort of job could somebody like you get...?" You feel like offering the idea of making BB into a maid, but you hold your tongue. Probably best not to reveal that preference at all. "Do you have any practical skills at all?" It's really odd to see Sakura talking down to BB for having no practical skills, considering that she too has no real practical skills other than maybe cooking.

"W-well... I... suppose that I could be good with a computer?" BB has hope in her voice. Thinking that she might be able to get access to a computer.

"Ha! No way. No way am I letting you near a computer. You might've had your physical powers taken away from you, but don't think I'm going to forget that you're still an advanced AI, BB. Letting you near the world's information network is a recipe for disaster." You enter into the conversation to deny that particular request. Honestly, BB is probably the best hacker on the entire planet right now, and you aren't just going to let her try to make money off of using a computer. Knowing her, she'd crash the entire stock market for fun, before hacking the US Government and publicizing all of their secrets. Which would probably be kind of funny, actually. But still, not really something you need to go through right now. Besides, you don't completely trust BB not to invent something like Atlas' Etherlite to plug herself into the internet or something and download all the information of the planet directly.
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"Onii-chan is right, I can't let you do that, BB... Is there anything else you can do?" The two girls are pretty clearly not going to get anywhere on their own, and you might have to make a suggestion. It's obvious that Sakura wants to put BB to work somehow. Of course, that in itself is something of a punishment for the girl who has never done a day's work in her entire life. Honestly, it's kind of doubtful that BB even knows the meaning of the word 'Hard work'.

>"Why don't you use her as a body double and make her do things you don't want to do?"
>"What about making her a maid? You'd be able to keep an eye on her that way."
>"How about we use her as the bait for Orochi?"
>"You know, we might be taking this a little far, in a way, she could be called your sister, Sakura."
>Write-in...
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>>4729192
>>"You know, we might be taking this a little far, in a way, she could be called your sister, Sakura."
I don't wanna bully her anymore i feel bad now
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>>4729179
>Gilles needs to fuck off before he murders any kids.
Probably too late for that. Remember the warehouse with the dead kids where we got killed by Sun? Who else could it be than Gilles?
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>>4729178
I meant, I think she'd want to fight and kill her evil copy.
>>4729179
>Diarmuid
Oh yeah, he'd probably still be pissed at Saber and Kiritsugu. Maybe let him have his duel with Saber for real, and he'd chill out.
He'd probably become a knight for Mordred too if she asked him. It's all he ever wanted.
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>>4729198
Would Giles really just kill them by bashing their heads in instead of some elaborate torture thing or eldritch monsters tearing them apart alive?
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>>4729192
>"What about making her a maid? You'd be able to keep an eye on her that way."
>"We`ll just have Giselle train her first so she is up for the task."
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>>4729205
Maybe he was on a time limit, no time to play around.
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>>4729199
>I meant, I think she'd want to fight and kill her evil copy.
She isn't really evil, more like a dark hero according to Urobutcher, even Nasu and Takeuchi kinda agreed

>He'd probably become a knight for Mordred too if she asked him
that's a great fucking idea lets do it, lets also ask Cu to be a knight too, he was a knight in life and it gives him an opportunity to fight and fuck his way through Europe. Shirou, Cu and Diarmuid as Mordred's knights, Iskandar can be her top general
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>>4729198
>Who else could it be than Gilles?
Could have been Rizo. He had amassed small army of vampires, remember?
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>>4729192
>"You know, we might be taking this a little far, in a way, she could be called your sister, Sakura."
Bullying BB is fun and all, but it pretty much guarantees we'll have another enemy after Nyarly inevitably decides to give her back her powers for shits and giggles. Besides, BB is kind of cute the was she is right now.
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>>4729215
Sakura is still probably gonna bully her and keep an eye on her either way, this choice just lets her know we have some soft spot for her
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>>4729192
>"You know, we might be taking this a little far, in a way, she could be called your sister, Sakura."
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>>4729192
>"You know, we might be taking this a little far, in a way, she could be called your sister, Sakura."
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>>4729187
>Sure, she might've done some messed up things to Hakuno on a few dead ends, but if you judged people based on how they acted in dead ends
actually this is a good point, Sakura straight up vored Shirou and Rin, Medusa killed Shirou a lot, Illya turns Shirou into a sex doll and Medea turns Shirou into a Projection Wand, seems odd to fault BB for her BAD END but not anyone else

>>4729191
>It's really odd to see Sakura talking down to BB for having no practical skills, considering that she too has no real practical skills other than maybe cooking.
she's our housewife, she makes our food and shovels snow off the roof
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>>4729192
>"You know, we might be taking this a little far, in a way, she could be called your sister, Sakura."
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>>4729192
You know, we might be taking this a little far, in a way, she could be called your sister, Sakura.". Give BB a squeeze
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>>4729232
>Sakura vored Shirou and Rin
Hottest moment in any VN period. She vored SAlter, Rider and Illya afterwards too I just know it. She should use her vore powers more often on enemies she dislikes.
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>>4729239
>Hottest moment in any VN period. She vored SAlter, Rider and Illya afterwards too I just know it.
Might I interest you in THESE quality pieces of erotica?
https://nhentai.net/g/333071/
https://nhentai.net/g/353927/
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>>4729239
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>>4729192
>"Why don't you use her as a body double and make her do things you don't want to do?"
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>>4729242
Based. Remember guys, this is why you don't simp for the hot topic ethot white girl you met a week ago when you are supposed to be rescuing your big boobs and ass glorious nippon girlfrenderu.
>>4729243
How did it feel losing your virginity inside of your sister's belly Rin?
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>>4729192
>"You know, we might be taking this a little far, in a way, she could be called your sister, Sakura."
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>>4729192
>"How about we use her as the bait for Orochi?"
Stop simping for that useless AI guys.
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>>4729255
never
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>>4729255
Sakura should just eat her desu. If nyarly gives back BB's powers Sakura would have absorbed it all making her an unstoppable Goddess.
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>>4729192
>"You know, we might be taking this a little far, in a way, she could be called your sister, Sakura."
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>>4729205
Their heads were bashed in by a blunt object (tentacles), their bodies were quartered (tentacles) and they had been used in a magic ritual. Gilles certainly fits.

>>4729214
They weren't drained of blood, I think.
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>>4729192
>>"You know, we might be taking this a little far, in a way, she could be called your sister, Sakura."
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>>4729192
>>"What about making her a maid? You'd be able to keep an eye on her that way."
Illya's retainers could give her a crash course, and we need to tell Illya about her anyway.

Using her as bait seems too cruel, even if we could expect Zolgen's aspect to be fooled by her visage which doesn't seem a foregone conclusion.
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>>4729192
>"What about making her a maid? You'd be able to keep an eye on her that way."
Honestly, I expected Sakura to have come up with the "maid" idea on her own. Guess I should have expected BB to have brought the worst in her after that first impression. There goes any hope for team purple to gain a third member.

Though I'm pretty sure Nyarly sent her to us just to give us the temptation of using someone who looks like our beloved sisterwife as bait.
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>>4729325
>team purple
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>>4729330
Good point, but their usefulness in the Shinjibowl is rather limited.
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>>4729334
What are the core Shinjibowl factions?
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>>4729192
"You know, we might be taking this a little far, in a way, she could be called your sister, Sakura."
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>>4729334
>"Medusa, make Shinji take us on the date!"
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>>4729335
>Team Purple
Sakura, Medusa, maybe BB, Stheno and Euryale
>Team Vampire
Arc and Satsuki
>Team Homunculus
Illya and Giselle

Everyone else is independent though i can see Rin joining Team Purple and Medea and Shuten coming to an understanding since Shuten understands the pecking order
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>>4729335
Team Purple and Team Einzbern are the two obvious ones. Medea may have pulled Shuten into Team Evil Witch, but I don't think the others have realized the benefits of cooperation yet.
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>>4729347
>>4729349
Just you wait until Mordred form a faction with Morgan and Saber Alter.
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Update delayed, ISP just crapped out on me for about half an hour.
High odds my IP changed too.
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>>4729192
>"You know, we might be taking this a little far, in a way, she could be called your sister, Sakura."
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>>4729356
Shit.
Guess I'll just make a new thread for the next update when it happens.
No formatting power makes QM a dull boy.
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>>4729356
That it did. By the way. I’ve been meaning to ask. If we have BB on us.....any chance we could see a certain “gacha is bad civilization”. You know. Altera.
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>>4729360
>formatting power
Worrisome.
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>>4729361
may as well get Nero too if QM is gonna pull all the Extra heroines too
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>>4729362
I just like being able to make things italic and bold.
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>>4729360
It's about time anyway, thread has started chugging.
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So let`s do full review.
>Team Purple
Sakura/Tiamat, Medusa, BB (freeloader №1), Stheno (freeloader №2) and Euryale (freeloader №3)
>Team Vampire
Arc, Satsuki and Altrouge (subjugated by Satsuki)
>Team Evil Witch
Medea, Tamamo (subjugated by Medea) and Shuten (subjugated by Medea)
>Team Einzbern
Illya and Giselle
>Team Saberface
Mordred, Morgan (press-ganged by Mordred) and Saber Alter (press-ganged by Mordred)
>Team Human
Rin, Touko, Monica and Alaya

Thats some tough competition.
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>>4729385
your making a lot of assumptions if you think Rin, Touko and Monica would be willing to share with each other, at least you can make an argument with Rin being in Team Purple since Sakura would have the number one spot and Rin would placate her. Your also making a lot of assumptions with Tamamo since she canonically hates sharing and has a move specifically for beating the shit out of cheaters and harem seekers
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>>4729392
>she canonically hates sharing and has a move specifically for beating the shit out of cheaters and harem seekers
Bros, I don't feel so good.
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>>4729392
>Rin, Touko and Monica would be willing to share with each other
I believe in Alaya and her ability to hold them together.
>Rin being in Team Purple
Fair. Strong possibility.
>a lot of assumptions with Tamamo
Nero was pretty successful in putting Tamamo at the very bottom of pecking order by the time of Extella Link. Even our favourite janitor doing Team Mom job was more important.
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>>4729385
Ciel should be in team vampire since she has the imortality of one and wouldn't mind sharing us with arc.
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>>4729412
she hates the shit out of Vampires, especially Arc, if her or Enhance lay their eyes on Arc or Sacchin they might try to kill them

>Nero was pretty successful in putting Tamamo at the very bottom of pecking order by the time of Extella Link.
We need Nero
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>>4729411
I'm honestly half expecting Rider Nero to show up, Manaka controls Beast 666 and Rider Nero is her strongest and most evil form as well as the other half of Beast VI
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I remember a few threads back when everyone was shitting on haremfags, and now people are actively trying to get more girls.
Weird turn of events.
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>>4729417
>We need Nero
Medea seems to have it handled.
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>>4729423
Haremfags have become more vocal lately, and are currently pretending they've always had support. I got tired of arguing with them this morning.
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>>4729423
There were also Illyafags that didn't want her to have a happy life, plus that one guy who wanted Shirou to cuck us for some reason, i assumed they all left
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>>4729385
the twins also need to go find a job.
maybe make then idols after this war ends.
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>>4729423
Whiners have shut up or offed themselves so now the non-miserable people can joke and make merry.
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>>4729423
Balance of power shifted during Misaki town visit.
Monogamy was at its strongest pre-initial Shuten recruitment.
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>>4729480
>>4729480
>>4729480
New thread!
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>>4729437
It's Nasu's fault drowning us with potential waifus It's not qm's fault that the majority of characters in the nasuverse is someone's ideal wif it's just by nature that we drown in an oversaturated sea of quality poon



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