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With a wave of migrants and a shortage of accommodation and food reserves you band all the villagers to work the long hours to get the job done. With loads of clay coming in daily and builders working on the new dormitory building all hours of daylight, the structure rises from the ground at tremendous speed.
Ever since the bandits raided your stockpile you've been juggling uncomfortably low food reserves. Unwilling to take unnecessary risks hunting, you use traders and the children. At your request, the children contribute to the work effort by foraging for the rest of the village. Meanwhile you send two men to travel to the Gemetis' capital Mokodou. With the coins gifted to you by the Uppulu chief, they purchase a cow, loading it with grain with what little money they had left. The fresh beef is a welcome change from lizard, and emu meat as far as you're concerned.
After a few laborious days, the villagers joyously completed the building in time for the migrants. With enough food to get them settled.
In the wake of all the hard labour, the villagers decide they're entitled to some indulgence. They're now doing the bare minimum of work and asking you to produce some amenities next. Although the newcomers haven't been working crunch the last few days from their perspective "if no one else is working hard, I don't have to either", you're not counting on them to pick of the slack.
Honestly, after all the conflict the last few months you wouldn't mind some opulence either. You lounge back in a cushion in the shade and think "what would be nice to have?"
>Music
>Games
>Better Food
>Art
>write in

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You are thankful to find the newcomers are mostly able bodied adults. Though you were hoping the doctor Ku-Aya would join you, she is still missing.

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The Giant Warthog that has made itself at home in your village is starting to become a point of contention. Some villagers want it gone. It eats, a LOT. It isn't stealing food from your stockpile, but it's still eating the local flora. Not just harvesting the fruits, but eating the entire plant. More and more plants in the immediate area are being devoured every day, and with winter coming in the yellow fruit bushes are no longer bearing fruit. Some other villagers love The Pig for some reason, considering it a bringer of good fortune and a ward against evil spirits.
You invite the Goat Herders' Chief over to ask him about it.
Uppulu Chief: "Ah yes, this great beast is known across the desert. We call him Tambo, they say in his wake comes a bountiful harvest."
Shala: "Probably because he eats all the competing plants and leaves a mountain of manure."
Uppulu Chief: "Do you not have Hodari in your homeland?"
You feel a sense of wistfulness. Indeed, there were once several giant venerable animals living in the forests of your homeland. You heard the Djenak devoured each one.
Burnaburiash: "We did. Magnificent creatures they were. They each had personalities, some could be quite dangerous."
Uppulu Chief: "Tambo is a gentle soul. He would never attack unprovoked, and will leave if you try to send him away. It is the great Thunder Bird and terrible serpent Grootslang you should beware."
Burnaburiash: "Thank you for your teaching, stay as out guest as long as you wish."
>Send the Pig away
>Allow it to stay

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Burnaburiash: "The wheat looks beautiful. Ripe for harvest!"
Shala: "Hmm, it took a long time. Considering we planted it in Spring."
You nod thoughtfully.
Burnaburiash: "Yes, clearly the work of evil spirits. Casting bad magic on our crops."
Shala gives you an incredulous look.
Shala: "Right... This harvest won't do much to feed 50 people."
Burnaburiash: "A shame, but there was much to do! And little time to sow."
Shala: "Well, it might take some extra effort, but. I think we should just use this to bake something lavish as a treat, or brew beer. We could just eat it as bread, but it's not a lot of food for our current population."
>Beer
>Lavish
>Bread
>write in

>>4785874
Welcome back!
>>4785875
>Games
Some type of sport and a brain game like chess
>>4785881
>Allow it to stay
I see no reason this big lovable pigu shouldn't be allowed to stay, yeah he eats a lot but he is definitely magical and he definitely will protect the children I feel like
>>4785883
>Beer
Having a nice drink the night before everyone gets down to business working isn't a bad idea imo

>>4785931
I can support this.

>>4785875
>Music
At its simplest, it requires no supplies beside human voices.

>>4785881
>Allow it to stay

>>4785883
I told you anons we needed to expand our farming operation first thing.
>Bread

*slams fist to table*
The pig stays

>>4785931
I like the idea of games

Make bread, we need food right now.

>the pig stays
But I feel it should be kept to one area to minimise it's damage

>Music
Everyone loves music, we can use it to party, march into war, celebrate, mourn the dead...the list goes on!

>Beer
Have a few drinks tonight then tomorrow it's time to hunt an elephant field dress it and pack it back to the village, maybe we could use sleds similar to the ones we use to transport the clay.

If there is any beer left for the next night we can have BBQ elephant and beer!

>>4786208
pigs gata eat

>>4785881
>>Allow it to stay
But ask It to Not eat our crops

I think we're forgetting how the spirits feel about the pig.

>>4788130
Remind me?

>>4788213
Well, we forgot to ask in the firs place.

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(Couldn't finish the whole update, so here's a small update to tide you over till tomorrow.)

Although you had enough food to settle the new migrants, the village is consuming more than it's producing. You need to find a new food source. Especially since winter/Tambo are reducing your foraging rate.
While enjoying a dip in the water you think up a plan to resolve the issue.
>Elephant Hunt
>Fishing Industry
>Pubu Fruit
>write in

>elephant hunt

We should also contact the spirits (namely the plant spirits) to ask their opinion on the pig

>>4788364
>write in
Consult with the spirit about fishing.

>>4788364
>Elephant hunt
Mayhaps we do a shamanic blessing beforehand for morale and good fortune on the hunt, maybe say hullo to the spirits, ask about Tambo (possibly speak to Tambo in the spirit world)

>>4788398
That's probably a good idea. I wonder if they're pissed off that he's uprooting their plants

>>4788364
>>4788440


Supporting this and generally supporting more communication with Bilya.

I think we talked to them on day one and never again.

>>4788364
>Fishing Industry
its about time this gets set up, feel bad about killing proohs while letting this huge boar chill.

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You decide some games will be the best way to bring the villagers more variety in recreation. You gather up the villagers, and make the announcement.
Burnaburiash: "It is time for games! Forget the bricks! Put down the adzes! For the next few days we're focusing on making games! Go wild!"
Happy with your decision the villagers throw themselves into discussing which of your civilization's games to bring back first.
Using the resources, tools and buildings established so far, they end up crafting a nice variety of games.
Tannery: Balls made from tanned hide, stuffed with animal hair
Kiln/Clay Pit: Board games and their pieces sculpted from clay
Hunters' Spot: (The children having been playing with discarded knuckle bones since we first started hunting.)
Loom/Bowyer's Workshop: Archery Targets and training arrows
In just a few days, dozens of old games are made. Through your encouragement most of the focus goes to logic based and athletic games.

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You allow the pig Tambo stay, Hodari can make excellent friends and dreadful enemies. You try asking him to leave the crops alone. Though there is a glint of intelligence in his beady black eyes, it seems he simply doesn't understand language. Thankfully he seems to recognize and respect human property.

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The wheat is finally harvested, collecting into a modest pile of light yellow bushels.
Shala: "A happy harvest. When spring comes we should rotate to pulse."
Simbar: "Have you decided what to make Burnaburiash?"
Burnaburiash: "I think we should brew it. How long will it take you to set up Simbar?"
Simbar: "Hoo! Little Burni. I started planning this the day we sowed the wheat. I've already made the tools we need, and found a nice cave to brew it in. We can even use the smoker for malting. We just need to wait 4 to 8 weeks for it to finish."
Burnaburiash: "Wonderful! Get started right away."

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It's been a while since you last visited the spirit world. The pink flower is nice, but doesn't help you cross over at all. It was significantly easier when that evil spirit was stalking you, secretly helping you reach the other side.
Hani'ata has been trying to enter the spirit world for days now, without much luck. Looks like you will have to wait for auspicious circumstances, perform a large ritual, or get high as fuck if you want to enter the spirit world.
You visit the small temple and see the stone in the center is covered in wilted flowers.
Burnaburiash: "Hani'ata! How long have these dead plants been here!?"
Hani'ata: "I don't know. What does it matter?."
Burnaburiash: "That rock is sensitive to spirit magic, it's a way for the spirits to communicate with us. This likely means the plant sprites are upset!"
Hani'ata: "Ha! A threat? Empty basket. It takes much more upsetting before woodsies get aggressive."
Burnaburiash: "We are shaman Hani, we're supposed to resolve these issues *before* the spirits get aggressive. I must enter the spirit world."
Hani'ata: "How? I'm not feeling much spiritiness in the air."

>Scorpion venom
>Large Ritual
>Bilya Statue
>Sprite Statue
>write in

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You're leaning towards tapping into the river as a food source. Several different fresh water creatures have been seen swimming in the thicker parts. Though you would prefer to gain the river spirit's blessing first.
Arwia: "So what's your plan? Do you want me to organize some nets and fishing spears? Build a work-hut for the fisherman and fish cleaners?"

>Wait for permission
>Impromptu Fishing Spot
>Brick Fishing Hut
>write in

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(Don't think I've forgotten you from the end of the last thread! Still anticipating the drawfaggotry)

>>4790336
>Large Ritual
We can make a celebration of it to go along with the games.
>>4790339
>Wait for permission
Gotta respect the spirits

>>4790336
>Bilya Statue
>Wait for permission

>>4790336
>>4790344
>Large ritual
We haven't talked to old girl in awhile or the leafs, a party ain't a bad idea celebrations in Bilya's name and I'm sure the sprites will appreciate some music, offerings to bilya will definitely help smooth the long distance relationship over
>>4790339
>Wait for permission
We don't wanna do anything to make mama mad

Large ritual

>>4790339
Bilya said humans are welcome, why ask for permission to fish? Should we ask permission to breath from the air spirits?

>>4790613
Well judging how breathing air is an automatic body function and fishing out of the physical representation of one of our patron spirits isn't.
We've neglected to contact her for quite a while and we are supposed to keep the spirits balanced, we already have something going on with the Ritual Stone and bad plant vibes, upsetting the river spirit isn't a good idea IMO

>large ritual

We need to cross over to the other side and speak to both bilya and the plant sprites

>Wait for permission

Best to be polite and respectful, especially as they can make life very hard for us if we upset them

>>4790336
The plant spirits like it when we have an abundance of plant life. We just harvested our farm and have a massive pig eating everything up... Maybe we need to plant some stuff pronto to rebalance things?

>>4791062
Tambo is a good boy no bulli him, thankfully he's a Hodari and probably actually helps the sprites more than hurts as they are what feed him and he brings them nutrients in manure and likely gets seeds stuck to his fur
Plus we asked him politely to not if it is bad

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A large ritual tomorrow! The vils eagerly listen as you elaborate on a whole day of no working, just feasting, playing, relaxing and at night: a ritualistic dance around a tremendous fire.
You end up personally bustling about preparing appropriate props for the ritual. Bowls of Ochre and Charcoal fresh from the new Wood Burner (You knew it would be a good idea) for body paint, big basket-fulls of the pink Mojo flower for its enticing smoke. You even carve out a new shaman mask for Hani'ata.
With your focus on the ritual you don't really have time to set up the fishing, you'd much rather wait till you discuss it with Bilya first anyway.

The following day is delightful. A small sport tournament to honour the spirits, children playing, everyone from the whole village socializing together.
Nabu-mu: "Are you sure everyone can eat as much as they want?"
You reassuredly slap him on the shoulder. "Of course!" you lie, "One little day of feasting won't do any harm."
As the night comes, you have the villagers decorate each other with the paints and charcoal. You gather them in a circle around the wood pile, and just as the sun disappears over the horizon... FWOOSH, the entire pile erupts in a pillar of fire. In every direction: awestruck gasps and fascinated stares. A dramatic display thanks to Hani'ata's fire magic.
The lighting of the flame signals the start of the ritual. All voices sing and a circle of dancing people rotates around the flame.
You can feel the spiritual magic waxing. It is almost time...

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Your mind enters the spirit world easily. Hani'ata following soon after.
Burnaburiash: "Go listen to the plant sprites Hani, I entrust this to you."
Hani'ata: ".. Right. I can do this. I am Hani'ata."
You approach the river banks, to meet the spirit of the Bilya. The great serpent of flowing water elegantly slides around you.
Burnaburiash: "Greetings. Great spirit."
Bilya: "I loathe hideous things littered by the waterside. But your peoples' crops and buildings decorate my river banks well."
Burnaburiash: "I am glad their hard work pleases you."
Bilya: "I know you desire to fish my waters, you are welcome to. So long as you don't wipe out any species I will not be angered."
Burnaburiash: "The villagers will be grateful I'm sure."
Bilya: "You have dealt with the shades well enough, Burnaburiash. I approve. Ugly unnatural things should not exist in the world. I would like to know, what do you plan to do about those humans, the Djenak Balai?"
Burnaburiash: "One day..."

>We will destroy the Djenak
>We will reclaim our homeland
>We will lay waste to their army
>write in

>>4792692
>We will destroy the Djenak
Seriously, while they exist we'll never know peace.

>>4792692
Question for the QM here before I answer, what exactly is the precise situation with the Djenak Balai? Like there's a bunch of soldiers that turn into dark spirits and evil shaman/warlocks, but like is the influence corruptive, coercive or collaborative on the part of enemy?

>>4792725
+1

>>4792692
Tell him we don't know, ask his advice. On one hand they must be destroyed since they will never stop coming but it on the other we detest violence and war.

>>4792692
>We will destroy the Djenak
>>4792908
I'm pretty sure they're born into it, or at least taken in at a young age by like raiding parties or some shit, I'm assuming they don't take prisoners besides kiddos, only an assumption however
However this is all speculation and OP probably has something better in mind

>>4792972
Where did we say we detested violence? Not trying to sound like a dick, because I genuinely don't remember and if we do I may change my vote to fit with Burni

>>4793017
We just had a party to chill after like 3 or 4 fights so ...

>>4793017
I just feel DESTROY THEM is very evil spiritesque and I don't want to say that to the water spirit. Im just trying to say that "yeah we are going to have to crush them but conquest is not our goa"l. If we start thinking about war and killing our enemies its going to draw evil spirits here and bilya has stated how much he detests them.

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Okay the quick rundown is.
>The Djenak Balai is an army that worships the Djenak (an enormous evil spirit, kind of like Aku from samurai jack) like a god
>They cultivate dark spirits deliberately to use them as weapons in their army, to do this they cruelly torment people to create extreme and deep seated negative emotions/ideas in them.
>They themselves don't produce anything or have any workers, rather they conquer cities and villages and enslave the populations to feed them
>The Djenak directs them to enslave and conquer everything
>The low ranking soldiers believe that they when they die in battle, they "ascend" into dark spirits. They accept brutal physical punishment to ensure they become powerful evil spirits. High ranking sorcerers and leaders live fairly decadent and opulent lives and are entirely uninterested in this "reward".
>They do take people in at a young age, but will let anyone join if they pass the "murder your own brother" test

>>4792692
>>4793424
>We will destroy the Djenak
Yup that clears up that conflict

>>4793396
I understand where you're coming from, but these "people" are the same people that slaughtered and drove us from our lands, even then they weren't trying to do that, they enjoy killing and know it will lead to them becoming a physical monster, they enjoy receiving pain nearly as much as inflicting it from what I gather from Dols post below
>>4793424

>>4793015
Yeah keeping my vote the same, this post is mine so don't samefag that vote

>>4793728
that doesn't mean we have to be happy about killing them.

>these "people"
yes, these are people who had their tribes destroyed and parents killed then tortured and indoctrinated until they become what they are today. We could end up fighting our old tribesmen.

From the spirits perspective it could look like a cycle of violence thing. If they are going to gift us powers to defeat the Djenak, They probably need to see that we wont misuse them as means for our own violent ends.

>>4793916
The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing

Burnaburiash: "We will destroy the Djenak!"
You speak with conviction, but in your mind you wonder if it's even possible for mere humans armed with spears and arrows to kill such a powerful Shade.
Bilya: "Bold! The best solution is the simplest one. With this "Djenak" slain, the Djenak Balai will be headless. I urge you to seek out other great spirits, they will likely share their magic with you for this cause. I shall instruct the smaller spirits to spread word of your courageous intent!"
Burnaburiash: "Wait! I cannot promise this ambition!"
Bilya: "Promise or not, the spirits of the desert will know this: Burnaburiash and her people are sworn enemies of the Djenak."
With a sense of vertigo you start to feel your grip on the spirit world slipping. The world fades to darkness as you plummet back into your physical body.


[Exchange Wave for a different spell?]
>Ice Wall
>Wave
>Water Bullet

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The following morning many of the villagers are still sleeping, reeling from last nights festivities. You approach Hani'ata to discuss last night's spirit walk.
Burnaburiash: "So the River spirit seems quite content. And we're free to start fishing. What did the sprites have to say Hani?."
She folds her arms and raises her nose to the air.
Hani'ata: "I did NOT speak with the Sprites Burnaburiash."
You body language instantly changes from upright and peppy to a deflated camel hump. She IGNORED your instruction, now it could be ages before you establish contact with the Sprites.
Burnaburiash: "..........Why?"
Hani'ata: "The mountain spirit! I could FEEL him. I didn't want to miss the chance. So I lept for it! Why bother with the plant spirits anyway? They complain when there aren't many plants alive no matter what. You're the one who told me to contact the mountain spirit anyway so it's your fault."
Burnaburiash: "Well what did the mountain spirit tell you."
Hani'ata: "Well I didn't see him, but I heard his words, he challenged me to climb the mountain to receive his gift of magic."
Burnaburiash: "And then what?"
Hani'ata: "And then I went hurtling back to my body. Didn't even get a chance to speak."

>Approve
>Reprimand
>Punish
>write in

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The villagers are quickly getting to work to set up the fishing operation. With the fishing, hunting/trapping, and what little can still be foraged there should at least be an acceptable level of food at all times.
Soon after the fishermen start work, visitors arrive. A Gemeti merchant caravan has arrived at your village. A few draft animals and bronze clad guards park by the tannery and the merchant requests to speak with you.
When you approach he walks right up to you and begins talking business immediately.
Merchant: "Hey guy. My family are honest traders from Mokodou, I have come to propose potential trade deals!"

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>write in

>>4794554
First
>Approve
she's right we did tell her to seek out the mountain spirit
Then
>Reprimand
Prioritization is important, and failing to deal with immediate issues to seek out greater power will lead to greater suffering.

Carrot and the stick.

>>4794554
Seconding >>4794567

>>4794560
>Buy barley for whatever surplus we have
We're in a tight situation food-wise. Also we can sow barley next year.

>>4794553
Wave is sick nasty keep it

>>4794554
Reprimand: she doesn't DO anything in the village and now she chose to persue her own agenda instead of helping the village by talking with the minor spirits even though it was the village working together that helped her reach the spirit realm. Those little spirits helped save our people from a horrible sickness and their magic saved us from the banditos.

We will trust the mountain spirit knows what he is doing. If she wishes to make the journey we wont stop her but as punishment she will get 0 help from the village. it will have to be alone and without help, that means no guide no tools / food she doesn't make/ scavenge herself.

>>4794560
>Selling barely for $
>Buying booz for $$$
We know how to make it so let's buy barely and sell back the booze. We have a Smith now, maybe we can later use the profit to buy metals

>>4794567
>We did tell her to speak with the mountain
We told her to speak with the mountain to teach her patience, she circumvented the entire test by skipping out on the duty we trusted her with

>>4794773
And that's why we follow with a reprimand, she isn't getting out of shirking her duties here.

>>4794789
I feel words are not ENOUGH with this character

She is a lazy shit, she will climb the mountain then ditch us whatever we say.

>>4795037
We have to trust that the mountain spirit knows what he is doing

>>4795164
True, maybe she acts the way she does because she feels like she has nothing to offer.

In the meantime I still think we need to redress the balance... Hey how about we spread some of the hogs shit around? Sounds like it is a great fertilizer and no doubt is full of seeds from all the fruit it has been eating

>>4795178
I feel she acts that way because she misguidedly believes that the village has nothing to offer her, but the mountain spirit is wise and stubborn, imagine this scene if you will:
>Hani'ata begins her climb, we urge her she do it alone as she disobeyed us and as punishment she will receive no aid from us as this is her quest that she chose to take, days pass as the scrawny girl finally reaches the peak, blisters covering her hands and bruises cover her body from the numerous tumbles, she looks out and sees the beauty of the desert and is humbled, she enters the spirit world and finally meets the rocky giant, but at the peak the air is strong as well and we meet an even greater spirit then that of just 1 mountain, but one of the 4 winds (assuming wherever we are has those still kek)
I hate I always make stupid speculation shit like this but I love the idea of it all

>>4795957
imagine if the mountain is just some 420 blaze it spirit and gives her super powers for no reason.

>>4795960
He just wanted her to climb up and light his smoke flower joint with her fire magic lmao

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(It looks like the Approve then Reprimand got more official votes, but I went with the harsh reprimand because the discussion appears to lean towards it.)

Burnaburiash: "Your actions have been selfish and lazy Hani'ata! You deliberately disobeyed me to pursue your own selfish desires."
Hani'ata: "Selfish!? You TOLD me to contact the earth spirit Burnt-Boobie-Trash."
Burnaburiash: "I gave you that task to teach you patience! And you abandoned your duty to rush it. If you won't help us, why should we work to feed and shelter you?"
Hani'ata: "I don't see YOU hauling huge slabs of clay."
Burnaburiash: "I'll give you a choice: get to work and start contributing under Bibi's supervision. OR go your own way, climb the mountain and receive the spirit's gift if you can. You will receive no help from us."
She balls her fists.
Hani'ata: "Fine, I WILL climb that mountain and show you I don't need ANYONE."
Burnaburiash: "We shall see."
Shortly after, you inform the rest of the village that Hani is to receive no assistance. Though you allow Bibi to give her a blanket to stop her from freezing.
Zakiti: "I'm sure she'll come crawling back soon Burni."
Shala: "Now is a terrible time for foraging, poor girl."

Rolled 97 (1d100)

>>4798328
This roll is for Hani'ata's initial attempts to climb the mountain.

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Barley for Booze. After discussing things with the Gemeti merchant you decide selling alcohol is a good way to bring wealth to the village, and buying barley a good way to make it. With the population growing and currency coming in; the village will probably evolve from a commune to a local economy. You begin to wonder how taxes and corvee work, good thing you have Arwia for this stuff.
The merchant gives you another proposition:
Merchant: "Since you are short of grains to produce beer with, how would you like a loan? I could deliver you barley for free for the first 8 weeks. Then, after the first batch finishes, you pay us back! (with interest, haha)"

>"I agree, Arwia will negotiate the details"
>"No, we can't invest labour in beer production right now"
>write in

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The fishing operation is lifted off the ground. Tasty river fish, marrons and platypus are now being caught, and you are now producing more food than you're consuming. With immediate concerns of happiness, security and food fulfilled you look towards expansion.

>Brewing Hut*
>Fishing Hut
>Spread Fertilizer
>write in

*You may convert one of the general purpose brick huts into the Brewery

>>4798328
>(It looks like the Approve then Reprimand got more official votes, but I went with the harsh reprimand because the discussion appears to lean towards it.)
What.
So now the course of the quest is determined by a vocal minority?

>>4798332
>"No, we can't invest labour in beer production right now"
We don't even know if there's enough demand for our beer. We should brew a test batch and sound the market.
I still want us to go into brewing though, so let's buy a bit of barley for planting.

>>4798333
>Spread Fertilizer
Agrictulture is the foundation of both food and alcohol industry.

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>>4798332
>"No, we can't invest labour in beer production right now"
We need a more steady supply of grain first
>>4798333
>Spread Fertilizer
Gotta get that grain to make the booze
>>4798388
S n e e d

I ment no assistance when climbing the mountain I didnt mean to kick her out.

>Rolls a 97
Ah fuck. Can't wait to see the fallout

Don't agree to loan, just trade some leather for the barley. Since it's just a small test batch we don't need a dedicated hut.

Instead let's build a watch tower and set up some dedicated security / scouts.

>>4798332
>"No, we can't invest labour in beer production right now"

>>4798333
>Spread Fertilizer

Then get to growing that barley

>>4798388
>What.
>So now the course of the quest is determined by a vocal minority?
yeah, that was probably a mistake. I was unsure which of the posts were the same people using different IP and if people were discussing their perspective but not voting. I'll make sure to give priority to explicit votes in the future

>>4798591
>I ment no assistance when climbing the mountain I didnt mean to kick her out.
oof

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You don't agree to the loan, but sell a few units of leather so get some barley to start with.
Merchant: "Selling leather? A girl like you should be wearing it. Ha! But yes. I accept your offer. We'll be back when your first batch is ready."

After the merchant caravan goes off on its way, you set the next priority to agriculture. One little wheat garden isn't nearly enough! After a small lottery, a few unlucky villagers are given sacks and shovels to distribute the manure.
Some more fortunate ones get to till some fresh farmland and sow fresh barley seeds.
Burnaburiash: "Can you sow this stuff in the winter?"
Shala: "Almost certainly. It seems very similar to our own native wheat and it never snows here."
Collecting seeds didn't spend any significant amount of the barley, what will you do with the rest?

>Store it
>Brewing

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You find a bandit has come down from the hills and invited himself in. Walking around with a cloth mask and a sword on his hip.
Bandit: "You are in charge here. Yes?"
Burnaburiash: "Who are you? One of the slugs who's been raiding us?"
Bandit: "I am NOT one of Razzaq's hounds! Half my crew he cut down, the other half? Crawled to his side like treacherous maggots. I heard the pale-skins had strong warriors, so I believe here I might find some new horns. Get my vengeance."

>Get in on his plan
>Let him try to hire your villagers
>Banish him
>write in

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Hani'ata spends the next few days attempting to climb the mountain with single-minded determination.
Though she returns to the base every time, through sheer stubbornness she is actually making progress, finding a path more skillfully each time. Nabu-mu tries to give her food against your orders but Hani'ata refuses.
This morning you look around, but find she has not returned.

>>4800489
>Brewing
>>4800491
>Send him off politely, bad advise that the Gemeti will probably be interested in getting rid of Razzaq.
We don't have enough men and good weapons to go fight Razzaq now.

>>4800622
>bad
*but

>>4800491
Brew

Bannish him, before he gives anyone any ideas

>>4800493
Go looking for her ASAP. I have had this growing fear that the spirit calling to her was the evil spirit ever since she told us the story.

>>4800489
>Brew it
Buying raw resources they have for cheap, and selling the alcohol for bank. Works well.
We will probably need to be more careful about bandits and raiders if caravans become a more common affair.

>>4800491
>Politely refuse or banish, possibly point him in the direction of the Gemeti or The Hunter
>Whichever, I don't want to send our people right now
As much as I'd love to wipe out a band of raiders, we frankly don't have the manpower to spare. We could send out Labashi and some of the others, but it'd cripple our production and security.
I'd also love to recruit him to get a trained warrior/thief, but he'd likely try to undermine us and recruit a few of our men into a suicide mission. If the Hunter(forget his name) and his team were around, i might place this man in his jurisdiction, but they aren't here.

Actually, Dolomite, do we know where the Hunter is right now? Could we point him in that direction to find strong people to join up with? Or are they deep in the south right now?

>>4800493
>>4800781
This.
I don't think the Belliscist called her, I genuinely think she heard the mountain. Both because of the challenge, and because the stalker needed to be far closer to call, close enough that the Bylia and Burnaburiash should have noticed its presence. But we should go look for her, and share some shaman-motherly advice and explanation. We need to teach her some important lessons, but at the same time we can't just abuse her into falling into evil spirit's hands.

We shouldn't go back on our decision to make her go at it alone(at least the belliscist taught us an important lesson of being committed to our actions). But she deserves to know why we made that call. Why we were disappointed that the entire village helped her, yet she didn't do what they needed from her. She probably forgot her new mask too.

And, in classic loop-hole wise monk fashion, bring some food to share with her if she is resting or at the top. Also a tiny bit of medicine/bandages. We only said she isn't allowed to receive help while climbing, and while we are talking with her, she isn't actively climbing now is she.

>>4800821
>Actually, Dolomite, do we know where the Hunter is right now?
Somewhere in the southwestern plains/forest, Every full moon Enki meets with one of Namtar's men to swap info

>>4798504
No one even noticed :(

>>4804465
I noticed, anon.

>>4804562
<3

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>>4804465
don't worry, I saw it

>>4804886
Fuck yeah

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You reserve the barley for brewing. Telling the others it's not to be eaten except in emergency.
With only Simbar and his homemade kit working, your bottleneck is production not materials. He begins work making another vessel to brew in.
The new barley farms are done and the manure is distributed around. You continue to plan expansion, perhaps some science/technology?

>Workshop
>Husbandry
>Botany
>write in

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>>4800491
Burnaburiash: "Interesting, but we don't want any of our men going off on a raid. They are all needed here."
Bandit: "Rrrr. Fine. I can tell you are nasty dangerous, and I have enough enemies. I will leave."
Burnaburiash: "Perhaps you might find allies in Gemeti land?"
Bandit: "I don't trust them, they're double dealing. Neutral villages like yours are best."

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You begin to worry about Hani. What if she's hurt? Or run afoul some evil spirit? The Bellecist is still lurking out there, and you cringe at the idea of him trying to sell his creepy spells to her. "You're just worrying", you tell yourself. She's probably fine. Buuuuuuuuut just in case, you start packing some supplies: food, waterskins, rope, and a bit of medicine.
You find the start of Hani's trail and look up at the foreboding mountain. If Hani'ata climbed very high it will be difficult to reach her, she's been practicing for days and this is only your first attempt.
A snort of hot air against your back interrupts your train of thought. Turning you see the giant warthog Tambo.
Burnaburiash: "Tambo! Could it be you wish to help?"
The pig gently lies down on its belly. You slowly reach out and firmly grab the Hodari's mane, testing his reaction. He remains calm and you hoist yourself on his back. He stands, and you find yourself seated high in the air.
Burnaburiash: "Thank you, noble Tambo."
Tambo puts his snout to the ground. Sniffs around for a little and begins trotting up the mountain. He carries you far, but eventually the slope become a little too steep. The pig settles down to the ground and you slide yourself off his back. The rest is up to you.
Fresh from having skipped most of the hike, you begin your ascent to the highest point. You take it slow, taking time to pick the most gentle paths. Finally you reach a plateau of earth, just shy of the tip top of the mountain. 10 metres and practically vertical on every side. Slowly you circle the pillar, pick the best spot, and climb...

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Upon the peak you see Hani'ata, eyes closed, lying on her back on the rocky floor. She looks rough, but unhurt. You sense the lingering presence of spiritual energy all around.
Your cool shadow falls on her as you walk up to her side.
Without opening her eyes she speaks.
Hani'ata: "Told you I could do it."
You sit down next to her.
Burnaburiash: "Yes, I underestimated you Hani."
She twists to her side and pushes herself upright. You toss a fruit into her lap, and start unpacking some water, cloth and Bittee paste.
Hani'ata: "Hmm? I thought I wasn't getting any help."
Buranburiash: "Only while you were climbing, the climb is finished."
Hani'ata: "heh, lucky for me."
Burnaburiash: "Did you learn anything on your way? Some words of wisdom from the Mountain spirit?"
Hani'ata: "When I reached the top ALL by myself it was thrilling, but... lonely. Ever since I came here you're always nagging and telling me off."
Burnaburiash: "Watch it Hani."
Hani'ata: "But after I went on my own for some reason I MISSED you and your complaining. Uh.. I'm trying to say: I can make it on my own, but why would I want to? If you'll let me; I want to join your team again. This time for real. I promise."
You reach into your pack and pull out one last item, the mask you made for her for the ritual.
Burnaburiash: "Here, this is yours."

[Choose a spell for Hani'ata]
>Stone Form
>Tremor
>Dig

>>4805406
>Dig
>>4805390
I'm torn between Botany and Husbandry, I feel like to address any future issues with the sprites and animals we should probably go with husbandry with the mindset of harmony in nature.
Then again Botany I think probably has more wide ranging versatility in the more immediate future.

>>4805390
>Workshop

>>4805406
>Dig
Unlimited tactical and utilitarian potential.

>>4805406
>Dig
Metalworking here we come
>>4805390
>Botany
Knowing how fickle the sprites likely are, they're probably just bored and want some new friends, botany will help us crossbreed plants and thus new sprites will emerge and they'll have fun little plant people adventures
>>4805398
Also what a fuckin lad, love Tambo

Tambo you legend!

Voting for
>Dig

>Botany
Should compliment our shamanistic tendancies quite well, maybe even find some things to add to our beer to give it a little... Kick ;-)

>>4805390
I would like my scout tower, but the alternative is Botany

>>4805406
DIG

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>>4805406
Pic related, for the entire little feels good journey.
Tambo a friend.


Husbandry would be solid for the wild dogs. Man's best friend could be great for hunting, security, and other general purposes that dogs fulfill. Camels could be nice if we wanted to get some pack animals, chariots, or otherwise. But I don't think we really have the land for those kinds of grazing needs. Plus we seem to be a more magic-archery focused tribe, to contrast the bronze kingdom's heavy infantry and the Sand Raider's cavalry. So I'll go with the option more fitting our Plant Spirits and river valley.
>Botany
Logically, and planning wise, I have to agree with the majority that Dig is a great option. But Hani'ata just seems like the kind of girl that'd want to stomp on the earth, erect a suit of stone around her, and headbutt and burninate people into submission. Either way, Water-Plant shaman and Fire-Mountain shaman is a nice combo.
>Stone Form


>>4785877
Not a really pertinent time for it, but more for my idle curiosity: who are some of the note-worthy/skilled members of the tribe?
Burnaburiash and Hani'ata are shaman, Arwia is our Librarian/Record keeper and right hand. Namtar is a Hunter/Warchief-in-making.
Damkina is a Glassworker, Gandu is a smith. Simbar is a brewer and his wife Bibi is a fletcher/bowmaker.
Labashi is a chad.

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>>4807362

>>4807961
>Artificer
???

>>4807961
>Zakiti
Explains why she was used as our spy several times.
>Labashi
Potter, huh? Neat.
>Aruru
kek, Burnaburiash is just jealous of her luscious locks.

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>>4808325
He's a craftsman/inventor, he can make shit like pulleys, wheel+axle, cranes, etc.

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The Dig spell temporarily excavates a 1x1 tile of earth. Fast enough to catch a moving target, but too slowly to harm it from falling. It can be used both to make pits and to dig tunnels. Any natural earth including very dense rock is affected, but man-made objects made from the exact same material are unaffected. Buildings do not prevent the earth beneath them from being excavated. The holes will slowly fill in over time.

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Shala: "The local plants are full of untapped potential, Burni! Ever since we developed Bitee Paste, I've been eager to continue research."
Burnaburiash: "What do you think of selectively breeding the plants, Shala?"
Shala: "We can make hybrids of any two plants IF they are the same type. Like a lemon and an orange. If you like, we could set up a garden specifically for select-breeding wild plants."
Burnaburiash: "Interesting, what other options do we have?"
Shala: "I've spotted some interesting looking plants in the surrounding territories. We could collect a few samples, and learn their use."
Burnaburiash: "Oooh exciting. What about all those ideas you had from last time?"
Shala: "Those ideas are still in the pot, pick any of the known wild plants and I'll see if I can perfect new ways to use it."

[Pick 1]
>Discover new wild plants
>Selective Breeding [Pick up to 2 Wild Plants]
>Research [Pick up to 2 Wild Plants]

[Known Wild Plants]
>Poretri Plant
>Pubu Fruit
>Rofru Fruit
>Papyrus
>Mojo Flower
>Bitee Plant
>Febocc Tree

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Since winter began, gales and storms have been occurring more frequently. Unexpectedly your workers report that the clay pit has flooded. There will be no more clay from this source until it dries up again.
Now everyone working the clay industry (quarry, kiln, pottery and bricklaying) is idle, Where will you divert the extra man power?

>Textile
>Leather
>Weapons
>write in

>>4810245
Lemons are already hybrids though.

Can you pelase remind us what all these plants do?

>>4810260
I second this, can't remember at all!

>>4810245
>Selective Breeding
>Mojo Flower
>Febboc Tree
I'm hoping it'll breed a vine of sorts that uses the Febboc Sap to either potentiate the Mojos euphoric properties, or help as a pain reliever/inhibitor

>>4810248
>Textiles
Oh fuck big brain mode just hit me like crazy, Dolomite could we look into dye manufacturing, now that we have dig we can possibly get rare earth metals for certain dyes on top of the plant crossbreeding for new flower dye, and scorpion chitin.
Gentlemen we could be looking at some peak capitalism with this as long as we make sure to not go too over the top

Also this is me >>4810447 I forgot my trip don't think I'm samefagging just dynamic ip

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>>4810260
>>4810331
I believe we ended up choosing the healing salve from the Bitee plant root.

Febocc Tree had oil or something we used to make medicine for the sickness a while back, I believe.

>>4810476
This is a pretty neat idea, and would probably do well for us during the wetter periods of the year with more plant life. Pottery in the summer and textiles in the winter. Would pull us a little away from smiting or crafting, and make us more of an artisan village in the river valley. Does sound nice.
That amount of wealth coming from our village is going to make us prime raiding candidates though.
We also only have one source of dye right now. Pink from the flowers.

>>4810245
I'm honestly a bit torn. I'd love to find more plants, and possibly bring them here. Both to give the plant spirits new friends, and to also possibly unlock more dye types if we go the textile route. On the other hand, we have a whole bunch of other useful properties from glue to paper to tea to drugs.
Either way we go, I'd rather unlock new plants, or research the ones we have right now. Not selectively breed any yet.

Weapons I guess we could use more of, but we have no source of metal, and we were able to arm the entire village to fight the Djenak Balai, so we aren't pressed for them.
We aren't really hunting enough in either quantity or size to have a solid Leather industry. Wait, scratch that, we do have that whole tannery that I somehow completely overlooked. And while we are good on weapons, we are lacking in terms of shields and armor. Textile or leather would probably work for that, since multiple types of shields exist.

>>4810245
>Discover new wild plants
>Leather, we will sell it to the merchants when they come back for beer

>>4811315
Excellent, thank you for finding this I couldn't find the archives
>>4811324
Your argument is sound and I appreciate your thought process, in light of finding that picture I agree we should diversify what we have in the valley and send Shala to go foraging. My logic for if we get a shit ton of new wealth from trading dye/textiles is we would be able to hire mercs and/or someone to train a group of people who can protect the village better. I am also just super pumped at the thought of our own cultural clothing and art that would most certainly come from it, as the village gets bigger we are going to need more than just rags for everyone to wear, and with real culture and art we will have a genuine foothold in the world, plus colorful shaman masks for Burni and Hani!!

>>4810476
>>4811380
Tldr changing my vote to
>Discover new wild plants

>>4810245
>Research
>Poretri Plant
Sweets are immensely valuable in ancient times
>Pubu Fruit
Potential non-barley source of alcohol

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>>4810260
>lemons are manmade hybrids
Nani!?

>>4810476
>Dolomite could we look into dye manufacturing
Yes, Hani'ata's Dig spell can help mines work more efficiently and crossbreeding flowers can produce new dyes.

>>4811380
>Excellent, thank you for finding this I couldn't find the archives
Hey! They're in the very first post ITT under the spoiler tag
Burnaburiash: "MORE species of plants, that's what we need! Bring back the most interesting ones you can find."
Shala: "Great, just give me some supplies and an escort. And I'll bring back a few samples."
You appoint a few bodyguards to help Shala on her mission and pack her supplies. With your spiritual blessing she ventures off to find some samples.

>Roll 1d100 for her success.
(Best of 3)

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A bit split between focusing on leather-working or textiles you ultimately go with textiles after some romantic ideas of making a colourful clothing industry.
The new workers get to work in the loom, churning out clothes, ropes, and bags.
Aralu: "I appreciate all the extra help Burni, but we are working with bark and river reeds. At this pace we will run out of materials eventually."
Burnaburiash: "What do you need to keep the Loom in flight?"
Aralu: "Any plant that can be processed into fabric. Flax, or cotton would be wonderful."
Burnaburiash: "Hmm, what about leather?."
Aralu: "We sold the stockpile for barley and there's not enough new leather being made to keep up."
Enki: "I have an idea girls. Why not just find an animal that can be sheared?"
Burnaburiash: "Like what? Have you spotted anything woolie?"
Enki: "No, but take the wild camels for example. The Ishtar use camelhair as their main fabric."
Kuri: "What about the giant spiders! We could MASH them and take their silk."
Burnaburiash: "What!? What giant spiders?"
Enki: "Are you making things up child?"
Kuri: "It's not made up! Ira and me found a sandy cave with huge spiderwebs. We didn't go in because it's scary. But it's probably full of gigantic spiders, just like the giant scorpions."

>Try to find/capture shearing animals
>Trade textile goods for weaving plants
>Spider lair
>write in

>>4812022
Yes, I love rolling

>>4812023
Scout out that cave from a distance for a while. Don't want to fuck with gient spiders

Rolled 63 (1d100)

>>4812092
Behold my power roll, I am dice blessed

Rolled 13 (1d100)

>>4812022
>Nani!?
Lemons are thought to be a hybrid of citron and bitter orange, but spontaneous, not manmade.

>>4812023
>Spider lair

Rolled 56 (1d100)

>>4812022

Rolled 75 (1d100)

>>4812022
:0 I'm fucking blind I'm sorry
>>4812023
>Spider Lair
If we can do silk now that will get us fucking heaps of dosh

>shearing animals

Let's start to establish a reputation as a textile manufacturing village then move on to high end (i.e silk) goods once we have our name out there.

That way we can iron out any teething problems with less precious materials

>>4812023
Logic says literally anything else. The fun answer says
>Spider Lair
Though.

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no updates tonight soz

>>4813871
Sad day, best be making that spider cave look cool

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>>4790342
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuu, I'm just a fucking faggot.

Have this while I totally don't procrastinate on the one or two other ideas I had.

>>4815684
Me gusta!

>>4815684
Love this 10/10

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[Rolled 63]

Shala returns with samples from three promising species of plants.
Burnaburiash: "A good haul! Well done Shala."
Shala: "Thank you Burni. I'm eager to start experimenting! What do you think of assigning some villagers to assist me? I could do research as a full time job!"

[Labour Distribution]
Clay Industry: Mothballed
Building: None
Leather Work: Low
Brewing: Low
Textiles: High
Botany: None

Foraging: Moderate
Hunting: Moderate
Fishing: Moderate
Security: Moderate

Idle Work: Moderate

It turns out without clay mining, brick making, and construction, even with the extra labour in the textile industry there isn't a lot of work to do. (Not that the villagers mind)

>Assign workers to Shala
>Let the villagers take it easy over the winter
>Assign workers to something else [write in]

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Intrigued by the spider caves, but wary of danger, you send a team to observe it from afar.
Hani'ata: "This is a bigger BORE than Tambo. We did nothing but watch a sandy old cave entrance all day."
Enki: "I prefer action, but Burnaburiash is probably right to be cautious."
Hani'ata: "Bugs are weak, even you could squash them Enki."
Enki: "I have fought Shades! I.. Ah. you're just making fly bites. I won't be riled so easily little girl."
Hani'ata: "Huh? I sense a dark portent."
Enki: "An evil spirit!?"
Hani'ata: "A spirit whispers warnings to my mind! There's danger coming!"
Enki: "Make fires! We need light. I'll wake the warriors!"

Under the darkness of the new moon, a swarm of creatures scuttle forward. Specks of light glinting off their eyes in the darkness.
Enki: "The spiders! They've come out to hunt!"

>Flee
>Dig a cave
>High Ground
>Aggression
>write in

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>>4815684
Fuck yeah! Love this stuff

>>4816370
>Assign workers to Shala
No lazing about, we're in a survival situation.
>>4816374
>High Ground

>>4816406
+1

>>4816370
>Assign workers to shala
Be careful with the cactus spiny segments they look sharp
Nuts are good protein so get as much as we can
I'm excited about those tuft plants
>>4816374
>High ground
If we see anything climb, sweep it by the legs and then punt it
[s]Oh Dol you've outdone yourself, this is gonna kick ass![/s]

>>4816602
Why tf did the first one work

>>4816406
+1
this basically, cant outrun spiders that don't rely on webs. Get that fire up here too.

>>4816370
The nut tree is very enticing. Nuts are good nutrition, and wood is rather valuable out here in the desert. Dense wood might be extra nice as a building material. And it's shape makes it look like it'll be good for surviving with little water out in the dryer parts of our village.

>>4816406
+1 Pretty straight forward. Fire magic will also be good for roasting a few spiders if need be.

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Burnaburiash: "Alright Shala, I think our village is large enough to afford a full time research team. Pick a few volunteers to help you study these plants."
Shala: "Great! Thank you Burni, you won't regret this. Tell me which plant you'd like me to research and I'll notify you when we make a discovery!"
>>4811315
>>4816370

>Poretri Plant
>Pubu Fruit
>Papyrus
>Mojo Flower
>Bitee Plant
>Shaggy Tuft Plant
>Angular Nut Tree
>Spiny Segmented Plant

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The villagers clamber up a small plateu and Hani makes a fire in the middle.
Villager: "They climb!"
Villager: "Sweep their legs! Don't let them atop!"
Hani'ata: "There's too many to burn!"
Enki: "..."

>Ring of fire
>Hold the line
>Sacrifice
>write in

Apologies for the infrequent updates. I've been having a little trouble keeping up my work life balance with a full time job.

>shaggy tuft plant
Could it be spun to make fabric?

>Ring of fire
Hold them off so we can regroup

>>4819706
No prob, real life comes first. I'm just glad you are able to do both right now.

>>4819698
>Mojo Flower
>>4819701
>Ring of Fire
Might light up a few tents, but much preferable to losing a villager.

>>4819698
>Shaggy Tuft Plant

>>4819701
>Ring of fire

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>>4819716
>Could it be spun to make fabric?
Shala: "Definitely, it's coarse and tough though, I wouldn't want to wrap my nethers with this stuff!"

>>4819701
Burn the spiders when they start to climb the platou, their flaming body's will make a natural ring of fire

>>4819979
Ooh cool, rug/carpet making springs to mind. Could be good to add to our list of textiles we sell.

>>4819979

Could be useful for sacks/bags or the outer layer of a shield (which we should start acquiring).

>>4821637
Also ropes and cloaks

>>4821637
And sandbags for fortifications

>>4821725
Sandbags are only good against bullets

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>>4821740
good thing guns haven't been inv-

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>>4821760

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Hani'ata: "Huddle up! I'll cover the edges in flames."
Hani splays out her arms and a wall of fire erupts on the edges of the plateau. Leaving very little room to stand.
Villager: "This heat is difficult to bare!"
Enki: "Keep strong!"
The spiders shy from the edges, unwilling to brave the flames to attack. They creep backwards into the shadows.
Hani'ata: "It is too much, I must lower it."
The flames die down. No sooner, the spiders spring out to attack again.
Enki: "Raise the flames! Quickly!"

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Fairly early in the morning the scouting team you sent to investigate the spider caves returns. All alive, but with skin reddened from light burns. An unconscious Hani'ata sleeps on Enki's back.
Burnaburiash: "Dreadful! Come this way everyone, I will treat your burns."
You lie them all down in a hut while some medicine is fetched for you. You use up all the stores of Bitee paste slathering it on their skin. Then bandage the injuries with cloth. In addition to the burns some were bitten and are suffering from a venom that painfully cramps the muscles.
Enki describes the spiders to you as you apply a cold flannel to his forehead.
Enki: "Horrible creatures. They come out at night. The scorpions avoid us, but these spiders HUNT us. They aren't powerful, but facing a swarm from all sides under cover of darkness? Nightmarish. Hani'ata spent all night protecting us with that flame wall."
Burnaburiash: "Forgive me, It's my fault you were all subjected to this. I won't send you there again."
Enki: "I. Am not afraid. We know them now. You should commit to harvesting their precious silk."
Burnaburiash: "You believe so?"
Enki: "Namtar would not back down."

After the doctoring is done it seems like they will all fully recover. The venom appears to be healing. Now you think to yourself if messing with the spiders is really worth it?
(What will you do about the spiders)

>Steer clear
>Further study
>Fortified Silk Harvesting Base
>write in

>>4819698
(You select the Shaggy Tuft Plant as the subject of Shala's research. She promises results in a few weeks.)

>>4821824
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mIBTg7q9oNc

>>4821740
I dunno man, pretty hard to ride a horse through a wall of sandbags with a ditch full of spikes in front of it

Question: would we be harvesting their silk by cutting down the webs? Or do we need to kill the spider to get it?

Because I'm wondering if we can capture a few and farm them for silk. If that wouldn't anger any spirits of course

>>4821825
>Further study

>>4821837
A ditch of spikes alone will work just as well.

>>4821850
A ditch with a wall on the far side is significantly harder to jump.

I don't want to get into an argument over this, I'm just saying we can build shit with sandbags as a temporary interim solution while we don't have any clay coming in for bricks etc

>>4821825
>Study Further
Building a fortified base now would just mean they have to fend off horrified spider waves every night.

Also to go with >>4821846, if we can get a renewable or at least somewhat harvestable way to get the silk, that is much better than killing them all and running out after one batch.

>>4821725
>>4821740
At risk of making more of an arguement, sandbags also have a good use as river bank reinforcement, in the situation where a river floods. Which we may have to prepare for if the rainy season gets particularly bad here. We've omly just started the winter/rainy season, so we aren't familiar with the natural cycles here.
Might be worth asking the goat herders about.

>>4821907
>>4821864
The problem with this is at the Bronze Age technology level, cloth ain't cheap. Even sackcloth. So bags are premium goods actually.
I recommend this fine post series on this topic: https://acoup.blog/2021/04/09/collections-clothing-how-did-they-make-it-part-ivb-cloth-money/

>>4821825
My fear is that there is a mom sized spider in that cave with Tambo teir intelligence. So I don't want to over do anything.

Let's gather up some spider web from the edge of the cave and also the spider corpses to see what can be harvested for weaving. Lastly, let's set a spider cage trap and see if we can catch one alive, our artificer can help with that. Everything should be done in the light of day.

>>4822036
Sounds like we have a plan! Going with this

>>4822036
+1
If there is a spider queen with hodori intellect we might wanna make peace with it, spiders are never necessarily evil and we might get a proper form of renewable silk

>>4822307
the tribes men only warned us about the bird and snake being jerks so we will see

>>4821919
Neat read, only done two of them so far but very illuminating.

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>>4821919
>your quest assigns you homework

>>4823428
I ain't even mad, it's honestly fun to learn stuff if you make it interesting. I knew jack shit about textile trade before this quest and now I am being taught how to crochet by my stepmother since I showed an interest in fabrics like an autistic child

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Through a pair of heavy fur curtains you enter a cave lit by oil lamp.
Burnaburiash: "Show me the creature."
Two men pull a cloth revealing a wooden cage. Inside is a live giant spider, standing very still.
Ishum: "Easy to catch. Bait a trap and come back the next day."
Burnaburiash: "Clever. I'm impressed by your quick work Ishum. Do you think you could capture more like this?"
Ishum: "Easily. As long as you provide me with the material to make the traps I can capture as many as these brainless spiders as you want."
Labashi gestures to a large stone slab with a dissected spider on top. Nasty blue blood stains the rock.
Labashi: "We cut open one of them as you asked. We managed to pull usable spider silk from its innards."
Burnaburiash: "Excellent! Did you manage to retrieve some from the lair?"
Ishum: "Yes. As long as we don't go too deep. We can collect web during the day time safely. Unfortunately it's a long walk. And if we camp outside the spiders will attack at night."
Burnaburiash: "I see. A simple hut like we have for the clay pit won't be enough."
Labashi: "Using some of the web we collected, Aralu made this:"
He holds out a piece of soft shiny white silk. It feels cool and pleasantly soft in your hands.
Burnaburiash: "Ahhh Precious."
Ishum: "Aralu's work is excellent."
Burnaburiash: "This seems very promising."

>Forward base
>Wait for brick industry to return
>Just travel there and back each time
>Spider farm
>write in

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Simbar: "Young Burni! The first batch of beer we made from the wheat is ready! Shall we reward the villagers for their hard work? Eh?"
Burnaburiash: "Simbar, I'm afraid the Gemeti merchant will be returning soon to buy this batch."
Simbar: "Come on Burni, we've got a whole big hulking URN full. With a second one almost finished. The second batch will be ready long before he gets here. Don't crimp your people!"

>Well... I guess it couldn't hurt
>No fun allowed!

>>4826539
>Spider farm
>>4826543
>No fun allowed!
We need to uphold our trade commitments

>spider farm
We should make sure we treat the spiders humanly (food water company of other spiders) lest we anger the spirits

>No fun allowed YET

we can have a drink if there is any extra left over from the trade

>>4826539
>Spider Farm
If we can cage them easily enough, might as well. Each time we go to set up or take away a cage, we can also gather the silk at the cave mouth. We will just have to be careful about eggs.
>>4826543
>No fun allowed!
Mama Burni needs to keep the village on the straight, and out of a debt spiral.

>>4826539
We should take it easy, we caught the scorpions easily enough at first but then it became big trouble. Give time between captures. Maybe build a bigger cage for the spider for better study.

>>4826543
NO FUN ALLOWED

Fire water is for parties ONLY

>>4826666
How would you feel about a catch and release type program
Catch em, milk em, bring em back, it promotes a routine too and eventually we might not even provoke them
Also checked
>>4826539
>Spider farm
>>4826543
>No fun allowed!
We need some trade going a little more, I'd prefer to have more friends then acquaintances and enemies

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Ishum: "It took many days and many men. But we've successfully dug out an enclosure that can contain giant spiders while providing us access to their silk."
Burnaburiash: "I confess, I am a little nervous to see what you have wrought Ishum..."

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Ishum: "As you can see, the webspinners are trapped in the lower level. These long hooked poles can scrape the webbing off the walls safely from above."
Burnaburiash: "Adults won't fit through these gaps but how will you prevent spiderlings from escaping?"
Ishum: "My plan was to only capture female spiders. You can tell them apart by their mouth spikes."
Burnaburiash: "Very good then. How much raw silk do you expect the farm to produce?"
Ishum: "Less than what we'd get harvesting the source; there's only room for so many spiders down there. BUT much more safe and convenient."
Burnaburiash: "Good, can I count on you two to run the farm and keep the spiders fed?"
Villager: "Yes Chief."
Villager: "Easy job."

[The spider farm will produce a steady income of spiderweb.]

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The Gemeti merchant returns with a cart full of supplies and bags jingling with coinage.
Neriah: "I am pleased to hear your first brew was a success. I am willing to pay for the entire earn in full right now."
Would you like to make some one-off or ongoing trade deals?

>write in

>>4828359
If we were to trade alcohol for bronze could we upgrade our weapons and armour? I'm thinking forward to when business is booming and we are a target for raiders

Or we could buy some clay and make bricks for fortifications then hire mercs to guard the village later on?

What does everyone else think?

>>4828358
Wouldn't it make sense to only capture males? We could capture a pregnant female by mistake. Nature uuuuh finds a way

>>4828359
I also think the bronze trade is the way to go, either for armor or weapons.

>>4828540
I don't know much about spider biology, but don't they lay eggs upon fertilization?
As long as we only capture females, it really shouldn't be a problem.

>>4828359
Clay I feel like we could get faster and more conveniently from our goat herder neighbors, than a long caravan more at risk for raiding. Plus we only need some until the summer season roles around again.
Barley might be worth getting in small amounts, to supplement the wheat and farms for brewing. Salt too if we want to expand our meat storage capabilities.

Bronze would probably be a good idea, though we'll need to make sure our forge is capable of working it. Some armor and shields (bronze or lower tier shields should be good, either way) would be our best initial things for defense. We've got quiet a bit of weapons already. Other than that, is making some fortifications/watch towers and perhaps training a few men for guard duty.
Making some bronze arrows or lead shot for the slingers could do wonders considering that's been one of our major offensive tools.

>>4828540
>>4828639
Why would spiders that travel to hunt in the night (like a wolf spider) weave webs in the first place? These are unusual creatures so I think it would be best not to think about it TOO much.

>>4828359
Sell the beer and buy bronze + barley to convert into beer! Planting season is probably over soon so that was the plan all along. Lets try and get a forge set up for our resident smith

>>4829523
Also, I would like to present the spider cloth we made to the goat herder chief as a gift.

>>4829527
The goat herders have been kind to us. However, it seems odd to gift them an unfinished product/small amount of raw material.
Maybe instead we use the second batch of alcohol and prepare a joint feast/celebration between our two villages? Or just gift them some of the finished spiderweb clothing when we get that up and running.

>>4829523
>Why would spiders that travel to hunt in the night (like a wolf spider) weave webs in the first place?
To protect against their natural predator: the emu

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I don't actively follow this quest, but every once in a while when I see it in the catalog, I jump in and appreciate it. Thanks OP.

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>>4830010
fuck you, read and participate in this quest.

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>>4830051
Calm down Anon, I like it, but I'm just a lurker.

>>4829523
Good idea, I'm going with this (buy barley and bronze in exchange for beer)

>>4829523
+1 on beer for barley and bronze

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You establish an ongoing trade deal to sell 2 units of beer for 3 units of barley and 1 unit of bronze.
With this you now have more than enough grain income to keep Simbar brewing full time. Surplus barley is filling your food reserves which are now quite plentiful.

With the Spider Farm: The Loom is now producing silk fabric and clothing.

Some of the villagers are trading "their" items with the Gemeti merchants. Coinage and currency is leaking into the village and with it a local economy is emerging.
The villagers' motivation to work for the sake of practical matters of comfort and survival is waning as the infrastructure and population increases.
Arwia: "We are growing from a small collectivist village to one with a real economy."
Burnaburiash: "Does that mean we need to start taxing? Who even OWNS the materials and the workshops?"
Arwia: "Don't worry Burni, we'll make some basic rules for now and develop our system as needed."
[What kind of economic system are you going for?]

>NO RULES!!!
>Casual system
>Strict system
>write in

(No highly anachronistic economic systems like Marxism or repubbliche mercantili or whatever. I'm not exactly learned about Neolithic/Bronze-Age Economics.)

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After Aralu and her clothiers finish several garments, you bundle them up as a gift for the goat herders and travel to Uppulu with a small entourage.
You are welcomed with tokens of fruits and brought to the chief's shady home. You find yourself seated on fluffy pillows with the Uppulu chief.
Burnaburiash: "The Uppulu people have been most kind to us, Chief Badru. We have come bearing gifts for you."
Nebo opens the wicker basket revealing the finely woven silk.
Badru: "Silk? Such generosity! This comes to Gemeti-land only from the forest peoples beyond the southern mountains. How did you get this?"
Burnaburiash: "We made this silk ourselves, from the native giant spiders."
Badru: "Spider silk! Your people are daring Burnaburiash! But I say your people are also. Trustworthy. I accept your gift with gratitude shaman."
[What business would you like to discuss?]

>Clay trade
>End of year festival
>write in

>>4832823
>Casual system
A strict system requires dedicated bureaucracy for which we don't have the manpower.
If there's currency it's not very Bronze Age already, so don't overthink it

>>4832827
>End of year festival
I feel we'd do better if we just look for a new clay pit.

>>4832823
>Casual system
>End of year festival

Are we mass producing spidersilk to the point that every villager is wearing silk or is it a luxury good that we produce in small quantities?

>>4832827
Casual system, we can start thinking about CASH MONEY when people start complaining that they "do more" then other villagers.

At best, I can think that maybe we could only take a 90% cut of everything produced by SKILLED labour and let the artisans keep 10% of their toil to do with as they wish. But once we start on this road its going to become a slope very quickly.

>End of year festival

>>4832823
>Casual system
Less headache for shaman girl. Also other anon has it right, not enough people to justify nor man a strict bureaucracy.
>>4832827
>End of Year festival
Let our people boogie. Goat herders are bros.

>>4833189
Pretty sure spider silk is very much a luxury. Out spider farm is consistent and safe, but notably slower than harvesting from the source cave.

>casual system
(Everyone contributes a fair share towards the good of the village)
>End of year festival
Because festivals are fun!

>>4833251
>Pretty sure spider silk is very much a luxury.

Sure, in IRL where spiders aren't even big enough to fit in the palm.

>>4830010
Hey I forgot to get back to this post last update but glad to hear you're enjoying Waluigi

>>4832855
>If there's currency it's not very Bronze Age already, so don't overthink it
(I sort of mixed up whether I wanted the technological deadline to be at 300 BC or 1200 BC thanks to the first Google result of "Bronze Age" showing both of those numbers) The general rule is anything that existed in the world before the "end of the bronze age" might appear in the quest.

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>>4832823
You make some fairly basic rules to help settle disputes. Hopefully it will be enough to stop serious disagreements from occurring.

...

Badru: "A festival? An excellent way to celebrate our peoples' friendship. I will ensure the whole village knows of your invitation."
Burnaburiash: "I am glad to hear it! I will see you at winter's end."
The next morning you depart Uppulu and after you return home you begin planning the upcoming celebration.
Arwia: "I'm glad you chose to celebrate the new year Burni. I was worried we would have to skip it since we already had a festival this winter."
Burnaburiash: "Times have changed but I still wish to uphold many of our old traditions."
Zakiti: "It may also be a good opportunity to build our reputation and relationships, depending on what we do, and who we invite to join us."
Burnaburiash: "Yes! Now I see that the new year festival is ESSENTIAL. We must make preparations!"
Nebo: "We need entertainment!"
Nabu-mu: "And food."
Simbar: "A lake of booze."
Labashi: "Decoration. With a grand centerpiece."
Arwia: "Accommodation for the Goat Herders would probably be sensible."

[Pick 3 Priorities]
[Some may require rolls]

>Spread invitations
>Competition
>Sugar
>Beer
>Bread
>Monument
>Dancers
>Drugs
>Musical Instruments
>Mural
>Tents
>Gazebo
>Simple Huts
>Big-game
>Effigy
>write in(s)

>>4837027
>Beer
>Sugar
>Musical Instruments
The herders probably practice transhumance, so they can live without accommodations for a day.

>Musical Instruments
>Big-game
>Brread

>beer
>Musical instruments
>Big game

Get everyone well fed and drunk, add some music and everything else will fall into place.

Although I think some kind of tent/hut sleeping arrangement for our guests should have an honourable mention, can't have them sleeping outdoors in the winter

>>4837027
>beer
>big game
>musical instruments
Like anon said, get everyone fed and boozed up. If we have music, then dancing and celebration just naturally follows.
Being goat hearders, I'm sure the other tribe has tents of some sort that they can bring and stay in, right?

K roll me a couple of 1d100s

Rolled 47 (1d100)

>>4837935
oh shit

Rolled 76 (1d100)

>>4837935

Rolled 19 (1d100)

>>4837935
Alakazoomba

>>4838115
You fool

>>4837550
dice+1d100

Rolled 65 (1d100)

>>4838547
I feel dumb

Rolled 62 (1d100)

>>4837935

Rolled 62 (1d100)

Rolling

Rolled 66 (1d100)

>>4837935

Woops, should've chipped in earlier. Would prefer some sort of housing for them. Simple Huts or Gazebos. Would help spread people out a bit more or take an influx from the next migrant wave.
Hopefully good music, food, and drink will be more than enough for people to enjoy.

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>beer
The plan is to not sell any more urns of beer to the Gemeti traders until after the festival. A couple of vessels should be finished by then.
(and you don't really need any extra bronze or barley right now)
(Rolled 47)
Treachery! It seems old man Simbar *forgot* to inform you just how close his next batch was to finishing.
You've caught red handed the greybeard and his co-conspirators DRINKING the beer.
Burnaburiash: "Simbar! I told you to save it for the festival! And KURI! I expect this kind of behavior from your brother but you? You're far too little for fire water!"
Kuri: "Sorry aunty..."
Simbar: "Come Burni, we only took the tiniest of sips. Plenty left for winter's end."
Unfortunately, your CASUAL SYSTEM doesn't really account for this sort of thing. Especially since Simbar is the one who brewed everything.

>let em off with a warning
>None defy Burnaburiash!
>write in

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>Musical Instruments
(Rolled (76+19)/2 = 47.5)

For the days leading up to the festival, you appoint some people to reproduce some simple instruments. Though you were hoping some flutes could be made from the various bones brought in, no working model is produced. You have much more luck with percussion instruments, several different drums and clapping sticks are made.

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>Big game
The early morning before the day of the festival, you send out Nebo and a few skilled hunters to go out and catch something BIG.
(Rolled (65+62)/2 = 63.5)
They eventually pick up the trail of a large creature. A solitary Rhinocerous.
Nebo: "Do you think it tastes good?"
Ishum: "Better than wild dog. Let's hunt it."

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(Rolled (62+66)/2 = 64)
An excellent kill! The team assembles a sled and brings back the quarry without incident or injury.
Zakiti: "What an enormous beast!"
Nebo: "Ha! How about a kiss for the mighty hunter?"
Zakiti: "Save it for the festival night Nebo."

(apologies, It's 1:47 AM and I'm too tired to finish the rest of the update yet. I'll finish it tomorrow.)

>>4841425
>let em off with a warning
>Promise to curse them next time.

>let them off with a warning

But make it very clear that what they have stolen from their people, the very people who they rely on for continued survival... Unless of course they want to offer something extra to the village for the festival

Hmmm the problem is he is an artisan so he has big value, as the village expands its going to be really hard to assert authority on everyone and factions are going to form. This dude is going to have influence over anyone that drinks fire water. Right now this beer production is what we need to get the metals industry off the ground.

I think a warning is pointless as I'm 100% sure they will do it again. its better to set some better rules for the future. Let Simbar himself come up with what he thinks is "fair", and come back to you. Since he has broken your rule he clearly doesn't agree with how we have set things up. Then after a back and forth with Simbar we can decide if even having a firewater industry is worth it in the long run. Better now then in the future when its a bedrock industry we cant do without.

>>4841425
>let him off with a warning
Ultimately it is his alcohol, so we really shouldn't do anything to him, just remind him we really need to use it for trade, we already made a deal, and we will be able to brew another batch in the future

>>4842243
its the villages barley that he is using, he didn't cultivate it himself

>>4841425
Burnaburiash: "I'll let you off easy THIS time. Steal from the village again, and I'll curse you!"
Man: "C-curse?!"
Simbar: "Foo! Thunderbolts! I made it. It's only fair I get a drink or three."
Burnaburiash: "You, Arwia and I will discuss what's fair and amend the rules. But I said no drinking until the festival! DON'T ignore my direct orders again."
Simbar: "...Aye. Burnaburiash. You're the chief."

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Uppulu tribes people start streaming in before it's even midday. Over time dozens arrive.
You crack out the GAMES and people quickly take to the oval to play ball.
The energetic sound of DRUMS echoes across the village.
Lots of woven mats from the LOOM are placed around for people to lounge on.
Plentiful portions of FRUITS, BARLEY, and SMOKED FISH and MEAT are available.
Two (mostly full) large clay urns of tasty tasty BEER stand ready to be opened at sunset.
A couple of unlucky men were chosen to take turns GUARDING, in case of another opportunistic attack.
After Nebo's party returns, large hunks of BIG GAME are being slow roasted over open flames.
The Uppulu chief arrives in the afternoon hauling a load of cheese and live goats.
The night comes and the beer urns open, dotted CHARCOAL torches light up the village. With the effects of the booze and pink flower, and all these people dancing to the drum beat you feel momentous spiritual energy. Party time.
[What do? Talk to which character?]

>write in

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(That's the last full update ITT, and the end of the first in-quest year. Might take a break for a bit before the next thread. Thanks for your participation!)

PS: Last night I found out about a free 2D Orthographic Bronze Age RTS called Fertile Crescent, check it out for more ancient era pixel content!)
https://lincread.itch.io/the-fertile-crescent

>>4842993
[What do? Talk to which character?]
Give me the mystery box character OP, also the long haired blonde male.

>>4842993
>[What do? Talk to which character?]
The clearest choice would be Tambo, I'm dying to know what he thinks about

>>4842993
Thanks for the thread, QM. Very fun as always. Take a break, and hope work goes well for you. I'll let the .io game sustain me until the next thread.

>[What do? Talk to which character?]
Might be fun to hit up some of the people we don't talk to as much. And a few of our tried and true friends.
Tambo is a fun idea, anon, I support. Chief of the Goat Herders, if for no other reason than for mutual respect of chiefs. Labashi, Nebo, and Arwia as the main gang. Gandu we haven't really had a chance to talk with. Aruru, just because I find those interactions personally amusing.

If we want to be a bit more proactive, now might be a good time to pop in and talk with the plant spirits. Maybe while we also visit Tambo's spirit form. Make sure the plants are happy with our fertilizer efforts and new farms.

>>4842993
Thanks for running!
>Chat with Tambo

>chat with tambo

I think we should take him a nice garland of flowers to wear on his head so he knows he is part of the celebrations too

>>4845102
>chat with tambo
>I think we should take him a nice garland of flowers to wear on his head so he knows he is part of the celebrations too
+1 this

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>Labashi
Labashi: "3 years ago I was a potter in a forest village. I would never have dreamed I would assassinate a wizard in a faraway desert. Fate is truly whimsical."
Burnaburiash: "It was your choices that truly lead you here. You could have been a captive, a freedom fighter like Namtar, or perhaps some other settlement our people made elsewhere."
Labashi: "Hmm I had not fully considered the different stories of all who survived the Djenak. Thousands lived in Tripoda, and more in the villages. There must be many more of us still out there."

>chit-chat
>Backstory?
>Opinion?
>Promote!
>Predictions?
>Flirt

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>Aruru
Aruru: "Oh Burni, you should see! Aralu made some transparent silk."
Burnaburiash: "Oh? Like for a veil? How opulent."
Aruru: "Ohhh I imagine more the garb of a Zekkotik dancing girl~"
Burnaburiash: "Bad thoughts invite bad spirits Aruru!"

>chit-chat
>Backstory?
>Opinion?
>Promote!
>Predictions?
>̶f̶l̶i̶r̶t̶

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>Badru
Badru: "This is good. When my people are happy. And healthy, I am happy."
Burnaburiash: "You are a kind leader Badru. I am glad to have you as an ally."
Badru: "Armies have allies. We have friendship."

>chit-chat
>Backstory?
>Opinion?
>Promote!
>Predictions?
>Flirt

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>Nebo
Nebo: "Slowly I earn the respect of the village! Each day I become stronger! One day they will tell tales of my deeds!"
Burnaburiash: "What deeds do you have in mind Nebo?"
Nebo: "I will destroy the Djenak!"
Burnaburiash: "That's a tremendously bold statement!"
Nebo: "I know, I got it from you aunty."

>chit-chat
>̶B̶a̶c̶k̶s̶t̶o̶r̶y̶?̶
>Opinion?
>Promote!
>Predictions?
>̶f̶l̶i̶r̶t̶