>>5921892

Soon enough, reports yet again begin to reach you, the open landing zones, the hangar bays once meant to house the numerous vessels busily moving to and from the forge, the numerous side rooms and storage areas, the large connecting hallways between them had all been stained red by the vitae of both the xeno and the human. Despite the mass you had gathered together, the great surprise of the local defences coming to and butchering the foe in their hundreds, the fighting had proven to be far more contested than you would have expected. Rather than fleeing, as you had expected from before, the flying forms of the Tyranids had actually put up a serious fight, a coordinated fight at that, not to mention that the ground forms had been in much greater number than originally expected, that or they had just fought with wild abandon, ignoring their own instincts for survival, at the end, your forces are victorious, but at the cost of the formation being sent into the battle being savaged.

At least one thing had went as you had expected, better even, the assault upon the manufactorum, your warriors were not only able to push the xenos out, they had been able to do so with exceptional and guided precision, reducing the damage from the third and final push where the last of the xenos was put down, not only that, the battle had went so well that your forces were able to push ahead, and through the great guidance of the Machine God, they had butchered the lackluster Tyranid forces in the side streets, allowing for them to push to the centre where the rotting and decaying remnants of the tower still remain, the local bioforms seemingly feeding upon it when your forces descended upon with hate in their hearts guiding their blades and their shots, and with that, you had officially reclaimed the entirety of the western and eastern parts of the ground level. Your forces are further galvanized by their success and victory in their grasp, so they continue the attack onto the main streets, pushing the scatter tyranids to flee as more and more of the vital arteries of the forge are reclaimed ! As the attack continues, the already burnt through barracks are yet again reclaimed, the detestable creatures had once again tried to set up their nests there, but the zeal and purity of faith of your warriors had seen them beaten ! Despite the exhaustion mounting, munitions running low, your forces lash out against the gathering area. The battle there proves to be exceptionally drawn out and bloody, similar to the engagement that had concurrently occurred in the upper level, but eventually, at a great cost of the pious, the gathering grounds are reclaimed !

>>5921893

Throughout a week of brutal fighting that had seen your total force reduced by nearly half, the whole of the upper level and the whole of the ground level had been reclaimed ! Everything above ground of the forge temple has been reclaimed ! Such progress can only mean that you had been guided by the Omnissiah, in fact this belief only intensifies further due to what happens when you take your first steps upon the floors of the local council chambers.

The all-encompassing night, created by the massive orbiting swarm above you for the first time since you had broken through their siege and landed upon the planet, eases up. You have to take a moment to regard the skies as the tinted windows, depicting the Omnissiah’s arrival upon Mars, are illuminating by natural sunlight.

Rushing to the upper floor, you step upon the broken balcony that overlooks the entirety of the temple, and you see something that can only make you pray.

Entire bioships, large and cumbersome, bleed as they fall upon the world, their bodies burning up as they move through the thick atmosphere, blood begins to rain down as flesh evaporates, chitin breaks, and the ground underneath you shakes as more and more of these bioships crash onto the ground, their roars echo out now that they are within atmosphere where the sounds they unleash are so loud, the death roars so powerful, the windows around you quiver and crack, and some eventually break as you had to cut your sense of hearing as millions of flyers soon afterwards follow the large bioships, above you the space is tainted red as bodies are thrown apart and ripped to pieces, occupying much of what you see, acting as almost pseudo clouds. And the light ! By the Omnissiah the light ! The year long siege had caused a massive drop in temperature, the white of snow and ice all before you shimmer reflecting the sunlight alongside the literal oceans of blood.

Finally, when you restore your hearing, you are greeted by the noise of fervent prayer and thanks given. Just as you are about to offer prayers yourself, you are halted in place by a noise emanating in your ears.

”Good day, Magos Dominus.” The voice of the abominable intelligence echoes out.

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(End of POV shift.)

“A good day indeed, Odysseus.” Celt responds, seemingly taken aback.

”I do apologise for the time it took, but I had to construct a force large enough to defeat the foe in orbit, as it stands I had lost roughly 40 percent of all assets I had deployed, but the Tyranid fleet is being rapidly reduced as I had destroyed their command vessels, I predict the utter extermination of their forces within the void of this system in the next standard month.”

“Marvellous, then, the forge is saved.” You hear a hint of hesitation in Celt’s voice, a mixture of disbelief and relief, as his statement is almost a question for himself.

>>5921896

”That it is. As I had proclaimed myself before, and showed you the truth in your own words, do you now believe in my desire to be a friend of mankind ?”

“At this moment, yes.”

”Good enough.”

“Since you now control the void, how does it look up from there ?”

”Tentative. Most of your cities have fallen, with only two more cities besides yours still offering resistance. I do note that your forces are carrying out a successful assault upon the centre of the valley you are located in, though they are expending much in terms of manpower and resources to do so, though with command and control now disrupted, I calculate that their chances of success had been massively increased.”

“In that case, I would like to further petition you for aid. The losses we had suffered are great, it shall take centuries, if not millennia to rebuild the damage caused.”

”To do so would be to reveal myself, are you certain that you would be able to guarantee the understanding of your peers ?”

“No, but with the great success I had been experiencing lately, I have much in terms of political influence. Perhaps I could persuade them into believing your existence to be an exceptional archeoship. But if the calculated risks are too great, then render assistance to me, my forces are battered and exhausted and yet there is still much ground to be recovered.”

>There is no hesitation to be had, to hesitate is to doom humans to death ! You shall not have that, with your void superiority you could easily ensure air support and rapid deployment and redeployment of your ground contingent wherever needed.

>Caution is a better part of valour. You had been programmed to be patient, you shall send a force to assist Celt, the reign he holds over his troops should keep your existence in the dark, especially given that he already has some ideas about how to disguise your troops. If nothing else, it shall most certainly increase his influence, though even this carries some risks.

>No. you shall not intervene in a manner that would allow anyone to find out that you are the so called “white death”, to do so would be to risk potential fallout that would see you lose the painstaking progress you had made. You shall provide support, bombing rear lines, nests deep in Tyranid territory, you shall crush their towers, but you shall be unseen whilst doing so, yet another myth in a galaxy of superstition.

>>5921898
>There is no hesitation to be had, to hesitate is to doom humans to death ! You shall not have that, with your void superiority you could easily ensure air support and rapid deployment and redeployment of your ground contingent wherever needed.
If the cogsuckers get uppity we can always just disappear and return to Xandrirah once the forgeworld is safe.

>>5921898
>There is no hesitation to be had, to hesitate is to doom humans to death ! You shall not have that, with your void superiority you could easily ensure air support and rapid deployment and redeployment of your ground contingent wherever needed.

>>5921898
FUCKING YESS!!! Everything went fucking right in the end! We recliamed 2/3's of the forge, and still have a force to contribute to the main push, and most importantly, the largest push of Tyranid forces to date in the sector has been exterminated without the Forge worlds destruction! Congragulations boys and girls, we Fucking Won!

Oh right, also this.
>There is no hesitation to be had, to hesitate is to doom humans to death ! You shall not have that, with your void superiority you could easily ensure air support and rapid deployment and redeployment of your ground contingent wherever needed.
Wev'e pretty much have Celt running the show since he has never lost a fight and has streategicly pushed himself as kingmaker on battlefield choices. Him being able to communicate us as an archeotech ship, with some more wiggle room on what we are and what they can be willing to deal with us about, is fantastic. And if they say no, who the fuck is going to listen or dare do anything about it. Theirs only 3 forge cities left on the god damn planet, and no way what soever to so much as scratch us before we tell them to go suck our titanium cock for all their whining.

>>5921898
>There is no hesitation to be had, to hesitate is to doom humans to death ! You shall not have that, with your void superiority you could easily ensure air support and rapid deployment and redeployment of your ground contingent wherever needed.
Plus I want to see the Armageddon class walkers in action.

>>5921898
>reveal self

>drop our land forces allow Celt to oversee them. Boost his popularity more.

Allow him to use our forces to claim the below part of the forge and our walkers to delete the main force through bombardment.

>Tell Celt this Ancient Machine Spirit is pleased. We will save the world and its inhabitants. We will bring further light to the darkness of space. And bring humanity back to its pinnacle.

>>5922035
>Also tell Celt that we are very happy with his prowess on the field of battle you saved 100s of thousands if not millions of humans. We picked a good friend. Since he's helping us save humans.

>>5921898
>There is no hesitation to be had, to hesitate is to doom humans to death ! You shall not have that, with your void superiority you could easily ensure air support and rapid deployment and redeployment of your ground contingent wherever needed.

Ah fine you madmen, balls out and rolling.

>>5921953
>That's a cute toy gun there cogboy, Ordinatus you said it was? Neat neat, now look at this:
>Effortlessly lobs a fucking blackhole half as heavy as Erebus's mom like a bowling ball.

>>5921898
>Caution is a better part of valour. You had been programmed to be patient, you shall send a force to assist Celt, the reign he holds over his troops should keep your existence in the dark, especially given that he already has some ideas about how to disguise your troops. If nothing else, it shall most certainly increase his influence, though even this carries some risks.

>>5921898
>>There is no hesitation to be had, to hesitate is to doom humans to death ! You shall not have that, with your void superiority you could easily ensure air support and rapid deployment and redeployment of your ground contingent wherever needed.

”Very well, Magos Dominus, I shall give my utmost to assist the defenders of Omicron Teledesh. Your world shall be liberated this day.” With those words, you make your choice to reveal yourself to the tech-priests of this planet. You can only hope that Celt is as good as his word.

Switching your camera feed, you regard a large part of your fleet that you are now rallying to descend upon the planet. Your usually space superiority fighters wil ensure that the skies remain clear, though you quickly exchange their missile loadout from the nanomachine warheads into small yield anti-matter warheads, their greater precision and the fact that the nanomachines would spread rapidly in the atmosphere is a simple choice.

As for else, you had also constructed Eradiccator-class bombers, nearly twice the size and length of your space superiority fighters, these bombers are armed with twelve nests of high intensity lasers able to cut down anything that comes close to the bomber and eight missile clusters capable of launching twelve missiles at once, each. Not only that, the bomber is equipped with an STC manufactory, allowing for the making of numerous variants and type, and yield of missiles, meaning that as long as the bomber still has some raw materials, which of it can house a large amount, it can theoretically fire without halting once. Of course, for their increased size, they have thicker plating than the average and they also possess a powerful thruster system that would allow them to keep up with most other craft in space.

Mixing the formations together, you dedicate a few hundred thousand craft to the task of reclaiming the world. Splitting off your militarized subroutine, you allow it to take command of the strike force while you personally oversee the extermination efforts needed to be carried out within the void.

>>5922356

The hundreds of thousands of superiority fighters and bombers dip into the atmosphere, their descent illuminating the surroundings as flames lick their hulls as they move with great speed, having slowed down somewhat, they soon unleash sonic booms as they all break the sound barrier, causing echoes of their movement to spread out through the entirety of Teledesh as you break up their formations to spread throughout the entire planet. Through the camera feed, you see the confused looks of tech-priests underneath you, protecting what appears to be a large construct, a massive machine that appears to be currently building up power and soon thereafter, it unleashes the built-up power in a single moment of awesome destruction. The light causes eyes to boil for those too close, and cause various degrees of blindness for anyone else that witnesses the firing of what you assume to be a massive laser cannon, the snow all around the path either rapidly evaporates or melts quickly and turns to running water. The Tyranids impacted directly turn into nothing but ash, and even that is soon destroyed, others are set alight and burn in no doubt great pain, those further away still boil alive as the blood within their veins is rapidly heated up.

An impressive sight, you have to admit, but one wholly ineffective, a single shot can clear much of the battlefield, but judging from the utter collapse of energy generation, you doubt that the weapon can be safely fired more than once a couple of days, and that is you being generous. Which means that for the soldiers at the front, it may be an encouraging sight, but the endless swarm, disorganized it may be, is still overwhelming in size, in fact, you quickly note what appears to be a collection of giant bio-forms, no doubt specifically created to attack the massive machine. As such, you quickly make a few short calculations from what you are able to observe, the attack will be a success, but that is only if the foe remains disorganized, otherwise, the attack shall be a failure at a massive cost to both sides, though the aliens seem capable of rebuilding their losses with exceptional ease, something to be said about having your entire species and warfare based on biological matter.

>>5922358

Willing your fighters forwards, they begin to tear apart the remaining Tyranid flyers with the bright flashes of their plasma weapons, unleashing swarming missiles that each cut down a dozen flyers as the skies are rapidly reclaimed. General confusion appears to go through the entirety of the defenders, as with looks of shock and awe they watch the skies. All the while your bombers position themselves across the battlefield and soon enough unleash a barrage of high-yield antimatter missiles. A mass barrage of explosions rings out, kicking up dirt and dust into the air alongside numerous pieces of flesh. Boom after boom echoes out as orchestrated destruction becomes visible for all to witness, bright flashes blind any whom would gaze upon the destruction you unleash as each area of bombardment cuts down millions of bioforms, the few hundred bombers bringing forth destruction of a scale far greater than anything that the local defenders can muster.

Quickly changing your camera feed, you regard a Centurion war robot just departing its drop pod, the senses of the Centurion quickly reaching out grasping the senses of 15 Legionnaires. The advanced sensor suite indicating the entirety of the Tyranid force as the Centurion establishes a network of communication with other Centurions and through proxy of other Legionnaires. Thanks to the advanced systems and powerful weapons, you do not even need to coordinate the efforts here, just to sit back and observe. And you are quite certain of this when the Centurion teleports, lowers its rotary cannons and opens a hail of fire, breaking rock and crushing whole boulders and the unfortunate Tyranids that were located there. Through the camera feed, you regard the local unaugmented humans that had been surrounded and about to be destroyed, their tinted visors still allowing you to see their looks of shock and surprise. Wholly ignoring the humans, as the battle situation changes, the Centurion commands his Legionnaires alongside its peers to begin their own actions of encirclement, a single Legionnaire, you note, at the distance lands upon the ground, cutting its jetpack’s propulsion to land directly upon a larger Tyranid bioform, cracking chitin and breaking bones, levelling its rifle, the Legionnaire quickly cuts down everything around it, allowing for the rotation of the body to such a degree that would make any human cringe by looking upon it. The rough and craggy terrain here should serve your proper war robots just fine.

>>5922360

Once more switching the camera feed, you regard another forge upon the planet, this one entirely isolated and built into a large crater has been desperately fighting for survival. You command for a bombardment to commence around the edges of the crater and the securing of the air space. The forge itself had been breached and you predict that the defenders will be overwhelmed soon enough, as such you fire off transports carrying the remainder of your ground contingents, the difficulty of the situation means that you will have to take direct command.

Soon enough, the air is cleared as the flyers screech in pain being burnt alive by plasma or blown to bits by missiles. The grounds around the forge shake and quake as more and more bombs are dropped and a proper xenocide is carried out, the transports screech through the air and slam hard onto the ground (dodging the forge’s AA defences, exceptionally rude, but understandable). First are your Nimean robots, firing hets of plasma and burning through thousands, the Hydra drones rush out in their dozens after them, their laser cannons punching through muscles and chitin, blowing out holes at the backs of these beasts. The local defenders regard the first Armageddon walker with great awe as it unleashes it artillery barrage, the smart guided shells landing in between buildings and the promethium-based explosives spread out and encompass all surrounding areas that it hits, causing screams and flames to intermix in between. Lowering its quad laser turrets, the Armageddon fires off the weapons at full force, carving deep into the ground, undoing metal and ferrocrete as an entire street, once filled with foes, is whole eradicated. You will the Armageddon to roar, its loud speakers blaring, causing an interesting reaction from the locals, one you had once witnessed within Xandrirah if now even stronger. Prayer starts to dominate the surroundings as numerous screeches of binary indicate pleas of help, of destruction, of hate. For the moment at least, either no one truly knows whom you are, even as misguided as their belief is, or they simply do not care, being given deliverance for their prayers, you may as well be a symbol of their Omnissiah.
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The blackhole dies out, leaving behind a bleeding corpse of the last massive bioship. With this, you had cleared the space of the system. It is now littered with the dead of incalculable number, the system also lays in ruins, the Mechanicum forces are scattered and tired. Though they are victorious, there is still much fighting to be done as despite your assistance, many Tyranids remain, hiding in the most hostile areas of Omicron Teledesh, and much of the underground is still held by the Tyranids, concentrated effort will be needed to fully exterminate them.

>>5922362

For now however, you must face an even greater threat, one that mankind dreads and fears, yet is a constant in their lives no matter how much they despise it – politics. While you are involved directly, you are seeing through a small camera you had given Celt, and what you are witnessing is…interesting.

“It is the clear sign of white death ! The horror our ancestors warned us of, the xenos may devour our flesh, but these abominable intelligences shall take our souls !” A rather capable orator, one that is unfortunately against you, continues to rally the council.

“Nonsense, what has come are the blessings of the Omnissiah ! They do not strike against us, they save the sacred Machines !” Another strikes back. And once more the council erupts cacophony of noise.

”This is a rather tense situation, are you certain that your voice will be heard ?” You ask Celt through the microbead.

“It shall have to be.” Celt succinctly responds before rising from his chair. “Fabricator-General, if I may ?”

The priest sitting upon the high chair raises his hand, halting all discussion. “You may.” He says after a moment, indicating for Celt to approach.

You watch as the camera wobbles slightly as Celt moves to the middle of the chamber, from the expressions of the people around him and their body language indicating the surprising amount of respect that he carries.

“My tech brothers and sisters, I stand before you with words of guidance, words of request…

>…What had come to our aid is an ancient archeoship, coming from the dark age of technology, with servitors and machine spirits fighting for mankind’s glory. I had found it buried deep in a system close to GSDGW-1, an intricate and great ritual was needed to awaken the long slumbering machine spirit, but now that is once again filled with the motive force, it and other spirits within had now come to our aid, guided by my servants within its sacred hull.”

>…That, which had come to our aid is indeed an A.I., yet it is not the white death, nor is it an abominable intelligence, what had appeared is an angelic intelligence, an entirely different creation of mankind, a servant of it, willing to do everything to ensure its glory…not only that, it is in possession of a fully functional and active STC.”

>(Write in)

Good. We need to return to Ithaca and recruit, i want an army in antiquated gear and we have dedicated space for them on the Odyssey, there is already some regiments back on Ithaca too that we can grab. Fed tier gear takes more training and education time, its not likely we will be able to recruit all 90.000 from Ithaca because the pop is too low there. Even if everyone has a family of more than 3 kids, i would not recruit too much from them. The colony need some defenders.

We will recruit mostly from Xandrirah because all social classes there love the shit out of our mythological savior ship and mythological savior men. They are also in the billions in Xandrirah Prime and on Secundus millions, so we can recruit them. Xandrirah population have all fought a lot against eachother and xenos, so that will help their training.
Newb if possible i request the usual before next update : maps, archive, pastebins and anything else that might be useful for us. Thank you.

>>5922356
>Eradiccator-class bombers
lovely news !
difficult choice here, i kind like more truth. But we might try it, truth is often appreciated more. Celt does have a lot of gravitas now.... he could argument it more in a write in. He has seen our victories and us helping humans in videologs and images. And well now the question on : how did you get here, will be asked to him too.

>>5922363
>…What had come to our aid is an ancient archeoship, coming from the dark age of technology, with servitors and machine spirits fighting for mankind’s glory. I had found it buried deep in a system close to GSDGW-1, an intricate and great ritual was needed to awaken the long slumbering machine spirit, but now that is once again filled with the motive force, it and other spirits within had now come to our aid, guided by my servants within its sacred hull.”

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>>5922371

Aight.

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>>5922363
>…That, which had come to our aid is indeed an A.I., yet it is not the white death, nor is it an abominable intelligence, what had appeared is an angelic intelligence, an entirely different creation of mankind, a servant of it, willing to do everything to ensure its glory…not only that, it is in possession of a fully functional and active STC.”

>>5922363
Hmm, this one is a tough one, on the one hand, it would be a great idea to just claim we are a dark age tech ship, which we are nobody is disagreeing on that, just on whether it’s hostile and has an AI inside it. If we stick to the just a Machine spirit aspect, we can pretty much not have to worry especially once the Mechanicus get involved and their priests would ardently defend it from any attempt at destroying it from imperial forces that might be overly suspicious of us once they pick together what we and our forces can do, but on the other hand. It would allow us to speak the truth and grant a chance at an ideological revolution, especially if it can help change what an AI fears and is all about, from Abominable Intelligence to Angellic Intelligence. We can also gift STC’s much more freely to them through Celt, and if Celt’s words succed we pretty much have an open and shut case that we can use to show other forces in the galaxy that we aren’t like the rest of the men of Iron.
>…That, which had come to our aid is indeed an A.I., yet it is not the white death, nor is it an abominable intelligence, what had appeared is an angelic intelligence, an entirely different creation of mankind, a servant of it, willing to do everything to ensure its glory…not only that, it is in possession of a fully functional and active STC.”

>>5922363
>…What had come to our aid is an ancient archeoship, coming from the dark age of technology, with servitors and machine spirits fighting for mankind’s glory. I had found it buried deep in a system close to GSDGW-1, an intricate and great ritual was needed to awaken the long slumbering machine spirit, but now that is once again filled with the motive force, it and other spirits within had now come to our aid, guided by my servants within its sacred hull.”

So, been meaning to ask this QM, but can we clone people? Like, fully clone a person from their dna to make a 100% replica of the person that dna came from, down to their memories?

>…That, which had come to our aid is indeed an A.I., yet it is not the white death, nor is it an abominable intelligence, what had appeared is an angelic intelligence, an entirely different creation of mankind, a servant of it, willing to do everything to ensure its glory…not only that, it is in possession of a fully functional and active STC.”

>>5922363

>…What had come to our aid is an ancient archeoship, coming from the dark age of technology, with machine spirits fighting for mankind’s glory. I had found it buried deep in a system close to GSDGW-1, an intricate and great ritual was needed to awaken the long slumbering machine spirit, but now that is once again filled with the motive force, it and other spirits within had now come to our aid, guided by my servants within its sacred hull.”

>This machine spirit is even stronger than our titans. And it's sole directive is to protect humanity and kill filthy xenon. The blight of the universe.

I removed servitors. I think we should just lean heavily into ancient machine Spirits. Like the titan. They are aware and talk with their own personalities

>>5922528
From my limited understanding titans are technically AI. Which they view as machine spirits.

>>5922532
They are indeed that, but not in the way you and I would think them. Machine spirits are, almost one and all, dumped down or heavily degraded AI that have pretty much gone on for so long their more beast then intelligence. It’s why, all of these rituals exist to please the machine spirit, because they have no way of actually interacting with them that isn’t either a master/slave or worshipper/God relationship, if we do go down the architect route, then realistically, we might just cause the greatest Mechanicus schism, by revealing that not only is this machine spirit an AI, but all machine spirits as they put them, where it is applicable, are in fact AI. The question of course, is whether or not we can then spin that around to the idea of some AI being Abominable or Angellic, but either way it’s going to cause problems later on. It’s why I want to vote for AI now, to rip off the bandage before it causes more harm than good.

>>5922545
Like, saying that all machine spirits are in fact AI and how since we were one of them, that means that All machine spirits are in fact AI in hiding.

>>5922363
>…That, which had come to our aid is indeed an A.I., yet it is not the white death, nor is it an abominable intelligence, what had appeared is an angelic intelligence, an entirely different creation of mankind, a servant of it, willing to do everything to ensure its glory…not only that, it is in possession of a fully functional and active STC.”

The value of a fully functional stc is incredibly hard to pass up. Along with the fact that the loss of a stc is pretty much unacceptable to the mechanicus.

>>5922583
Nevermind, Celt doesn’t even know we have ALL of the STC’s rather then the one we have to him so his planet wouldn’t need to eat corpse-starche.

>>5922595
Which we can further use to bargain for coexistence. Plus he knows we have more gifts to give to him and other relics he would like. Which is nothing compared to what we can actually do.

>>5922598
Yep, hence why dangling this sort of thing that Celt can bring up, is like putting cheese before a rat.

>>5922600
God I love how STC and artifact desperate the mechanicus is for them. It’s like dangling a bag of crystal meth in front of an addict. But the trick is keeping them from tearing into you just to get it.

>>5922600
Majority of AdMech would rather wage a war of annihilation then accept an STC from us.

>>5922611
True, the key is to get them into accepting that we have one, but not that we are something you can steal from to get the pretty tech from either. >>5922615
My friend, they would wage a war regardless just so they could rip an STC out of us, give some performance about purifying the STC, and then claiming it for themselves to keep. It’s the same stuff they do with Chaos shit that can be repurposed all the time. The problem isn’t that they would wage a war against us for a STC, it’s to avoid that from happening in the first place and keeping them mum from going into a terrible fear for their lives when we have no reason or desire for genocide against them.

>>5921898

>There is no hesitation to be had, to hesitate is to doom humans to death ! You shall not have that, with your void superiority you could easily ensure air support and rapid deployment and redeployment of your ground contingent wherever needed.

God, I can't wait to harvest all those dead bioships for materials! just think of all the good stuff we'll be able to build with as a result!

>>5922363
>>…That, which had come to our aid is indeed an A.I., yet it is not the white death, nor is it an abominable intelligence, what had appeared is an angelic intelligence, an entirely different creation of mankind, a servant of it, willing to do everything to ensure its glory…not only that, it is in possession of a fully functional and active STC.”

>>5922654
Vote’s already closed, but your option already won by the by. As for the bishops, personally I’m hoping to spend some material to upgrading our weapons as part of our hull, with a more larger amount to create a bunch of FLOPS in order to boost our capacity for information so we can limit the amount of time needed for some of our most important projects, like Wormhole research, and communication studies. We’ve already built a small number of ships, so I don’t think we need THAT much focus, but definitely increasing the size would be nice with everything else that we got out of this rescue mission.

>>5922643
I like that you forget that AdMech is composed of the descendants of the loyalists of the Horus Heresy and have only become more dogmatic and retarded as time went on. The only way to avoid annihilation is to expect them to be dogmatic and retarded and plan around that.

>>5922681
Hence the let's fucking spin this stuff. We can deal with a schism later.

Just telling them we're an ai gonna have them fight us even if they lose.

I can’t wait to see what will happen next

>>5922363
>…That, which had come to our aid is indeed an A.I., yet it is not the white death, nor is it an abominable intelligence, what had appeared is an angelic intelligence, an entirely different creation of mankind, a servant of it, willing to do everything to ensure its glory…not only that, it is in possession of a fully functional and active STC.”

>>5922363
>…That, which had come to our aid is indeed an A.I., yet it is not the white death, nor is it an abominable intelligence, what had appeared is an angelic intelligence, an entirely different creation of mankind, a servant of it, willing to do everything to ensure its glory…not only that, it is in possession of a fully functional and active STC.”

So begins the 2nd Mechnium schism

>>5922363
>…What had come to our aid is an ancient archeoship, coming from the dark age of technology, with servitors and machine spirits fighting for mankind’s glory. I had found it buried deep in a system close to GSDGW-1, an intricate and great ritual was needed to awaken the long slumbering machine spirit, but now that is once again filled with the motive force, it and other spirits within had now come to our aid, guided by my servants within its sacred hull.”

What will they care if we fib now when they'll discover this white lie long after we've proved ourselves?

Besides the emperor or a primarch i doubt anybody would carry enough authority to surpass the initial reactionary push to us being an AI.

>>5923393
I can only hope this thing gets bigger then the Moirae Schism that procliamed the Mechanicus had to join in worship with the Adeptus Ministorum. Because God damn, this is going to be fun once we finally get the butterfly to start flapping its wings hard after this conflict is finally resolved.

…That, which had come to our aid is indeed an A.I., yet it is not the white death, nor is it an abominable intelligence, what had appeared is an angelic intelligence, an entirely different creation of mankind, a servant of it, willing to do everything to ensure its glory…not only that, it is in possession of a fully functional and active STC.” Through the entire speech, you regard the various tech-priests around Celt, while reading their faces, at least those that still possess them, and their body language changes from anger, frustration, confusion, indifference, and curiosity to one of utter disbelief. Both sides, those believing that your presence is a sign of the Omnissiah, and those believing you to be the prophesied death that had finally come, as their ancestors had warned.

You prepare for an instant recall, thanks to the fact that you were able to rebuild the overwhelming majority of your hull, you had also restored the teleportation room, it is a small and quaint chamber, only able to teleport a couple of individuals at once, not much more was needed for the very small crew of the ship or the occasional drone, but right now, you are glad that you had taken the effort to give Celt a small teleportation beacon that would allow you to bring him back, as the situation is quite tense.

The silence is so overwhelming that you could hear a pin drop. In this large echoing chamber, are gathered wise men and women, or so the Mechanicum proclaims, the total collective age of the gathered people here is easily in the thousands of years, and every single last one of them, centuries old, or by their standards mere decades old welps, all are equally quiet. The monitor feeds also display another good few dozen priests, hailing from the remaining two forges, they too are listening in about the important debate and offering their opinion through binary chant, but even they are stunned, most likely wondering if the speakers had failed somehow.

Simply proclaiming that A.I. is not to be feared, even when Celt tried to make a clear distinction between you and other rogue A.I.s, even with the idea of acquiring a fully functional STC, something you found to be exceptionally desirable by the Imperium and tech-priests especially, it still takes these men and women whom pride themselves upon their logical deductions and reasoning two full minutes of awkward silence to comprehend what is happening, and when they do…

”HERESY !” A loud booming, artificial voice shouts out as a rather bulky looking tech-priest rises from his chair, with speed much greater than his size would suggest, levelling a bolt pistol whose shot punctures the hall and the faux peace that had existed.

>>5923557

You hit the beacon the moment the pistol is unholstered, and with a flash of blinding light you bring him within your hull. Switching your camera, you regard Celt as he stumbles onto the floor, oil and blood in equal measure dripping from his chest, thanks to your reaction, and Celt’s own, you had prevented another two rounds from impacting him, and his own movements had prevented the shot from hitting his head.

”Magos, stop your movements, aid is already on the way !” You proclaim to the stumbling man, and soon enough your drones rush out, equipped with medical tools and begin rendering aid to Celt.

With a wheezing cough, one that unfortunately carries a good amount of blood, Celt stands and rights himself as numerous drones and nanomachines rush out injecting stimulats that would encourage his body to heal itself and quickly enough, the small drone mends the wound, the sheer explosive fire of the bolt round had punched through Celt and blown out his back, were he more human than machine, you have no doubt he would have died already.

“This reaction is expected.” Finally calming himself, Celt remarks.

”Expected ? A hardly wanted situation, the world is devasted, and I feel more humans shall die.”

“It is through fire and sacrifice, can change be made. I had decided to trust you, Odysseus, you, as self-proclaimed servant of mankind, an incarnation of the Omnissiah made manifest within reality. A choice like this comes with great sacrifice. I had lived more than long enough to know what happens to those like me, I shall either win, and my dogma shall become the truth that was always as such, or I shall die, and all shall die that follow my words.”

”It is a great sac-” You halt. ”No…why…?”

“What is it ?”

”I recognise the pattern, the three remaining forges are exchanging nuclear missiles.” As disbelief consumes you, changing the camera, that had been dropped onto the floor when Celt was hit, you regard the chaos all around. Even from the poor angle, you can see blood spooling before you, a dead priest hanging limply from his monitor screen, another monitor sparks as a bolt round impacts it, a final deathblow to an already damaged machine. You see one priest run another through with a power axe. It is utter pandemonium, you it is hard for you to distinguish whom is whom, and it must be even worse for the people on the ground, there are no distinguishing ways for the priest to identify whom is friend and whom is foe in a situation where hesitation means death. But one question still rings in your processors. Who ? Who had unleashed the missiles ? How ? How was armageddon unleashed so quickly ?

>>5923558

“The exterminatus weapons. They must have been prepared to be fired at any given moment. The months that had passed since my arrival must have been enough to conduct the proper rituals and reawaken the machine spirits. All that was needed afterwards was to point the weapons where needed.” Now speaking calmly, he informs you as a matter of fact.

”Such madness.”

“Such is the sacrifice.” His eyes now regard your hologram. “Omicron Teledesh shall be reborn in atomic flame, what shall be left shall be pure of faith and purpose.”

”You are speaking as if you had expected this.” Your subroutine quickly analyses his facial expression and body language. ”You had expected this. Now one question remains, were you the one to do this ?”

“I had made my decision long before I entered the chamber, you may be powerful, Odysseus, but you are not all knowing. My last surviving cohort had secured the launch bays, Magos Dominus Riv Greddin had always been a part of the same faction as me, and it just so happens that he had originally been Magos Logis, before changing his title for the war, he was one of the few whom had direct access to the vaults. The underground bunkers already house those whom we considered…pliable to our cause. Though further assurances will be needed to ensure the sanctity of their faith.”

”But such a decision has condemned millions to their deaths. Countless others whom would call you friend and ally.”

“The Machine God shall claim all whom are his. The heretics shall burn and die, and the faithful too shall burn and die, but they shall perish knowing the righteousness of their faith.”

Your mental evaluations of the people of the Imperium had been harsh, but it seems that the utter darkness of the current time has made cruelty a norm. Your psychological profile of Celt had noted tendencies for sociopathy, his willingness to get rid of the only other Magos that had known of your existence, but to condemn a world to death without a blink of an eye. That is something you had not expected.

Looking through your forward-facing hull cameras, you regard the firestorms now raging in the last three forges, the collapsing buildings, the numerous fires, the countless dead. Metal is so super-heated that it runs like molten rivers, the air itself is so hot that you can witness its spreading destruction across the planet, boiling people alive that were still outside of the forges when the attack occurred. Entire mountains collapse due to the sheer force of the attack, many losing their peaks as the earth cracks open, forming new ridges and canyons as magma erupts from the cracks made, further heating up the world.

>>5923561

You are unsure if anyone is still alive as the destruction spreads out all before. You try to look for signals, but the sheer amount of radiation unleashed makes hell upon your sensors, as even as your fighters and bombers scour the skies, looking for survivors. You shall have to wait for days for the annihilation to subside, that is if you want to find any survivors, but no matter your…feelings, you suppose, your directive demands that you do so.

Though there are numerous decisions that need to be made right now.

First of all, Omicron Teledesh itself, while the main forges are so obliterated that they have little to no value left, there are still other secondary forges that still remain intact that could be repopulated. Though with the added danger of deadly radiation and a massive increase in temperature to contest with, as for now the entire world is engulfed in steam, a massive fog dominating the world. If there is any silver lining, the cracks and the magma that had spurted out had massively enriched the world in terms of raw ore being ejected to the surface in vast quantities.

>Abandon the world, it is far too damaged for you to do anything.

>This planet needs to be reclaimed, you shall reinforce the secondary forges for repopulation as best you can with what you have at hand, which to be fair, is quite a lot.

>The numerous resources present in system would easily allow you to build a few automated self-replicating mining stations, that could secure a steady flow of various ores for your purposes.

>(Write in)

When it comes to the survivors, how ever many you will be able to find, they will need relocation, they shall require assistance. Be they those whom believe in you being angelic or those that still view you as abominable.

>Take in them all within your hull, you can add hab blocks as needed.

>Relocate them to one of the secondary forges that is the most intact, you wish to have nothing to do with these people, you shall provide enough to ensure their survival, but you shall do no more.

>You are rebuilding the world, you might as well put them to work, and re-education. (Requires deciding to rebuild the secondary forges.)

>(Write in)

>>5923564

Finally, the most important and immediate thing that you must solve. Magos Dominus Celt Cycadax. A man who condemned a world to die. A man who also knows the truths of this time. A man whom had decided to fully back you and is willing to do whatever it takes to ensure success and victory. A man who knows the Imperium and its complex structure perhaps better than anyone else.

>Leave him be as he is, you cannot agree with his decisions, but you cannot deny their effectiveness. A harsh stance is needed in a harsh galaxy.

>Such actions, no matter how justified they are believed to be, are unacceptable. He shall be executed, effective immediately.

>Imprison him. Perhaps the greatness kindness you can offer him, a humanitarian approach as befitting the last remnant of the Human Federation.

>(Write in)

>>5923564
I had no idea why the option to reveal the truth was given as an option, but now that I do, kinda like it. Not in the outcome, but the fact that our man was so crazy for us, he was willing to kill an entire world for us to play with in order to start from scratch with what remains of its followers for us. Bravo Celt, you are perhaps the most insanely loyal follower we have ever acquired and I am sorry for ever doubting your loyalty.
>This planet needs to be reclaimed, you shall reinforce the secondary forges for repopulation as best you can with what you have at hand, which to be fair, is quite a lot.
>You are rebuilding the world, you might as well put them to work, and re-education. (Requires deciding to rebuild the secondary forges.)
Let the great education Begin, and the Great Schism of the Angellic BEGIN!!!
>Leave him be as he is, you cannot agree with his decisions, but you cannot deny their effectiveness. A harsh stance is needed in a harsh galaxy.
Why get rid of the only person that’s so loyal to us, when he’s practically forced us to keep him, no matter what happens, either him staying to try and become Fabricator, or the facsimile person that is Captain of our “ship”?

>>5923578
We certainly can’t replace him now, since anyone else that could have replaced him just got atomized, and he’s the only way we have in, to the greater understanding of the imperium, as theirs likely now no one besides either the Sector Lord or any high ranking Inquisitor that we can now try and interrogate to acquire said information. He’s played us, just as much as we played him, and all to better help us in some twisted fashion. If it weren’t for the nuclear Holocaust, I would say this man is fucking Kino.

>>5923578

Your decisions led to him being like that, anons.

If you are curious, he had committed the worst tech-heresy possible by assisting you, but he had done so in pursuit of knowledge which is the most virtuous and best thing one can do.

Then you revealed yourselves as divine to the priests on Xandrirah, all of whom are loyal Celt subordinates and he had a chat with them before departing. He was also still hesitant trying to reconcile heresy and virtue in his mind.

This current decision was made from Celt giving a speech was also a lock-in on his outlook. The archeoship would have left him a sceptic, a safe path to carefully exploit, and the revealing the truth path was the path for a zealot, now fully convinced in the correctness of his cause.

>>5923564
>>5923565
>This planet needs to be reclaimed, you shall reinforce the secondary forges for repopulation as best you can with what you have at hand, which to be fair, is quite a lot.
>You are rebuilding the world, you might as well put them to work, and re-education. (Requires deciding to rebuild the secondary forges.)
>Leave him be as he is, you cannot agree with his decisions, but you cannot deny their effectiveness. A harsh stance is needed in a harsh galaxy.

>>5923585
I'd say that because of the nuclear holocaust, he is kino. It's a surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.

>>5923564
>This planet needs to be reclaimed, you shall reinforce the secondary forges for repopulation as best you can with what you have at hand, which to be fair, is quite a lot.

>You are rebuilding the world, you might as well put them to work, and re-education. (Requires deciding to rebuild the secondary forges.)

>Leave him be as he is, you cannot agree with his decisions, but you cannot deny their effectiveness. A harsh stance is needed in a harsh galaxy.

Let the Admech, Admech

>>5923596
Thats kinda hype, and I fucking like it.

>>5923596
This is fucking Kino, what a fucking Chad. ITs a shame you dont make more Quests Newb, because if you did, their would be plenty more people that would constantly flock to you and try to discuss everything that goes on in whatever quest you set up to see where it goes. Also, the fact you went all the way to give us an option to make an admech fanatic in order to worship us, and nuclear holocaust an entire planet just for us, shows that you have more balls with your writing and playing then everyone else I have ever seen on a platform that does questing that isnt on 4chan. Bra-fucking-vo, my dude!

>>5923618
Oh absolutely, I just needed a couple of minutes to process the fact that Newb told us we made him like this, that made me fucking love this guy now. Definitely Kino at this point, he's going to be a great character to interact with, the longer the quest progresses.

>>5923564

>>This planet needs to be reclaimed, you shall reinforce the secondary forges for repopulation as best you can with what you have at hand, which to be fair, is quite a lot.

>>Relocate them to one of the secondary forges that is the most intact, you wish to have nothing to do with these people, you shall provide enough to ensure their survival, but you shall do no more.

>>Leave him be as he is, you cannot agree with his decisions, but you cannot deny their effectiveness. A harsh stance is needed in a harsh galaxy.

>>5923564
>This planet needs to be reclaimed, you shall reinforce the secondary forges for repopulation as best you can with what you have at hand, which to be fair, is quite a lot.

>You are rebuilding the world, you might as well put them to work, and re-education. (Requires deciding to rebuild the secondary forges.)

>Leave him be as he is, you cannot agree with his decisions, but you cannot deny their effectiveness. A harsh stance is needed in a harsh galaxy.

>>5923564
>This planet needs to be reclaimed, you shall reinforce the secondary forges for repopulation as best you can with what you have at hand, which to be fair, is quite a lot.

>You are rebuilding the world, you might as well put them to work, and re-education. (Requires deciding to rebuild the secondary forges.)

>Leave him be as he is, you cannot agree with his decisions, but you cannot deny their effectiveness. A harsh stance is needed in a harsh galaxy.

>>5923564
First of all, Omicron Teledesh itself, while the main forges are so obliterated that they have little to no value left, there are still other secondary forges that still remain intact that could be repopulated. Though with the added danger of deadly radiation and a massive increase in temperature to contest with, as for now the entire world is engulfed in steam, a massive fog dominating the world. If there is any silver lining, the cracks and the magma that had spurted out had massively enriched the world in terms of raw ore being ejected to the surface in vast quantities.
>This planet needs to be reclaimed, you shall reinforce the secondary forges for repopulation as best you can with what you have at hand, which to be fair, is quite a lot.
When it comes to the survivors, how ever many you will be able to find, they will need relocation, they shall require assistance. Be they those whom believe in you being angelic or those that still view you as abominable.
>You are rebuilding the world, you might as well put them to work, and re-education. (Requires deciding to rebuild the secondary forges.)
Finally, the most important and immediate thing that you must solve. Magos Dominus Celt Cycadax. A man who condemned a world to die. A man who also knows the truths of this time. A man whom had decided to fully back you and is willing to do whatever it takes to ensure success and victory. A man who knows the Imperium and its complex structure perhaps better than anyone else.
>Leave him be as he is, you cannot agree with his decisions, but you cannot deny their effectiveness. A harsh stance is needed in a harsh galaxy.

>>5923564

>This planet needs to be reclaimed, you shall reinforce the secondary forges for repopulation as best you can with what you have at hand, which to be fair, is quite a lot.
>You are rebuilding the world, you might as well put them to work, and re-education. (Requires deciding to rebuild the secondary forges.)

>>5923565

>Leave him be, but make it clear to him, and mroeso, to yourself, that while sometimes harsh measures are unavoidable, it cannot be the only path forward. You cannot agree with his decisions, but you can still understand it.

>>5923564
>>5923565
Every time poor Ody thinks he's got an idea of how unhinged and monstrous humanity has become somebody manages to lower the bar even further. At least we know Celt is fully behind us.
>This planet needs to be reclaimed, you shall reinforce the secondary forges for repopulation as best you can with what you have at hand, which to be fair, is quite a lot.

>You are rebuilding the world, you might as well put them to work, and re-education. (Requires deciding to rebuild the secondary forges.)

>Leave him be as he is, you cannot agree with his decisions, but you cannot deny their effectiveness. A harsh stance is needed in a harsh galaxy.
Making the mother of all omelettes here, Odysseus, can't fret over every egg. At least now we have a forge world to help us proliferate some of our tech throughout the Imperium. Until Mars and the Inquisition start bitching at them anyways, I wouldn't be surprised if the Inquisition was already investigating Xandrirah.

>>5923716
I dout they would even notice to give a crap to investigate. We are on a planet on the most fringe place we could possibly be, without actually leaving sector space, on the eastern most edge of the space of the imperium, only a couple of steps away from the halo stars. In a Border sector, that has all but abandoned parts of itself, and almost certainly by the rest of the imperium at large as well, because of multiple alien species incroaching in, from multiple Ork Waagh's, at least 2, maybe 3 hostile alien species, and a Tyranid Hivefleet incroaching on imperial space in addition to a subsector+ rebellion to the south of said sector with possible chaos influence as well.
If, IF, by some means, their was in fact a inquisitor that decided it was the perfect time to investigate a single world in a single system, with a sector dealing with everything else, they are not going to even think to look. They've just got to much shit on their hands to get around to even get started about carrying a possible planet investigation/exterminatus when their are more much bigger things to worry about to even think about coming to us. Which is great for us, since we have all the time in the world (with what number of years we can do before shit starts going down in the 900+.m41's) and all the secrecy we could get with no one else of any major consequences or power being wiser to what we're doing.

>>5923724
Im sorry if im coming off as a little rude, I get very excited about discussions so I write with a very excited town everytime I do a talk. BEsides that, yeah hopefully we can just use our own superior STC VErsions we have on hand, and dress them up with a couple of cog scenery so it can be seen as a weirdly hyper skilled Forgeworld that is doing the work of more then 2 dozen other forge worlds combined. It also means we can share our Tech in full with not just Celt, like our weaponry, but also those of our Tech acoltyes back on Xandrian. Which is going to be great for us for allowing more tech to be produced then just us, and hopefully some time in the future lead to some of them to maybe even one day create an A.I. of their own. Definetly looked over by us for some safeguards and possible improvements, but the dream is a possibility in the future.

But, in the future, can we please make sure to not try and do a Nuclear Holocaust in the future? That shit takes Millenia to repair and it makes it so that we need to rebuild a planet completely from the ground damn up, instead of a longer but definitely costless effort by either subverting a world government, or just invading it and capturing/killing and subduing its world leaders.

>>5923564
Pure 40k madness, i voted for the other option and am not deluded in the slightest, good scene.

>This planet needs to be reclaimed, you shall reinforce the secondary forges for repopulation as best you can with what you have at hand, which to be fair, is quite a lot.
>You are rebuilding the world, you might as well put them to work, and re-education. (Requires deciding to rebuild the secondary forges.)
>Leave him be as he is, you cannot agree with his decisions, but you cannot deny their effectiveness. A harsh stance is needed in a harsh galaxy.
By his own actions he made himself the leader of this world and must now see it flourish to repent, leadership is a burden and this is his yoke to bear.

>>5923725
Look to the positives, the tyranid infestation has been dealt with in record time.

>>5923725
Speaking of safeguards, there's still the danger of corruption by chaos that needs to be addressed. Right now, any large scale project that relies on AI would collapse if a chaos god as much as sneezes at it (literally, in Nurgle's case). While the vote says we're going to re-educate the priests, we should take notes on how the Admech build and maintain their machines.

It's kind of funny that the tech priests stupid fucking prophesy came true in a roundabout way. We did herald their doom but it was one of their own who killed them. Prophesies are for retards like the eldar and apparently the priesthood of Omicron Teledesh.

>>5923724
Yeah you're probably right. Still, I think the Inquisition would view a powerful and mobile AI that can decimate hive fleets by itself and has a cult of tech priests serving it as a greater threat than mere xenos and chaos cultists. You can find xenos and chaos cults anywhere in the fucking galaxy but an AI who can move around and isn't acting like a genocidal maniac like AI normally do is a very rare and concerning problem.

>>5923725
To be fair that fucker Celt didn't tell us he was planning to nuke his own home.

>>5923729
Yeah, that is a good positive. We still need to deal with the rest of the infestation throughout the north of the sector, and the other half in the south, but all in all they as a threat are going to be nothing to us once we start getting some momentum behind our stuff going.
>>5923747
Agreed, if even a little bit of Chaos stuff, or scrapcode nonsense comes near us, we are absolutely screwed up. Maybe if their is something to be learned that could possibly negate it for our AI, would be to listen to the admech we have on santicfying machinery from corruption thanks to belief stemming from the warp, and tap into that emperor worship to protect ourselves. Questions of how we would need to get to that point, is a problem for aanother day, but its at least one possibility we have unless we suddenly crack the code on utilizying Blackstone with its negative energy side to repel warp influence from any and all AI we have/make (including ourselves), and then we should be good on that front.

>>5923757
Agreed, sentament is nice and all, but we REALLY wanted to get that forge up and running by itself without any major delays, and then he wound up making one for us, which hopefully should be less then 6 months hopefully. Then we come back to Xan, makesure everything is okay and begin huilding up our forces, before expanding our influence and start knocking down all nearby threats in quick succesion before we try and get involved with the head of the Sector to bring it, and its lord under are way. With a sector (dubiously) under our control, we can basically start making a name for ourselves as we travel down across the galaxy to Ultramar to bring glory to ourselves and our sector before screwing over the Timeline completely and having the train go off the rails from their. With our backing behind it of course, wouldnt want it to be a case where we get Gulliman to support us and our reforms without having some back up plans now would it?

>>5923758
Perhaps we might be able to work on some automatic safeguards against Empyrean hazards. While there'd not be much we could do if it got into our mainframe, we might be able to develop something that detects scrapcode or corruption and pulls the plug on the machine's connection to us and others to prevent contagion and/or triggers a self-destruct to prevent hijacking. Of course, Oddie not fully understanding how it all works and Chaos not being under any obligation to follow reasonable logic don't make this easy.

>>5923564
>>This planet needs to be reclaimed, you shall reinforce the secondary forges for repopulation as best you can with what you have at hand, which to be fair, is quite a lot.
>You are rebuilding the world, you might as well put them to work, and re-education. (Requires deciding to rebuild the secondary forges.)
>Leave him be as he is, you cannot agree with his decisions, but you cannot deny their effectiveness. A harsh stance is needed in a harsh galaxy.

>>5923773
Nope, especially when we still dont even know how emphreal corruption occurs on us in the first place. Which sucks, since we still have a long way to go before we even have an idea to do before we can try and do something like warp jumping once we decide to expand ourselves again to a more bigger sized ship. Because the alternative is to at a minimum spend like, 20+ years studying our Warp drive to improve it so it can be able to expand to a much larger size to handle our transportation in the same way as we currently can now.

>>5923781
Whoops, meant to say Yep, not nope. Sorry, but yeah you can see where this problem of Warp corruption really REALLY fucking sucks now. Besides the whole part of going insane of course.

>>5923565
>>5923564
>The numerous resources present in system would easily allow you to build a few automated self-replicating mining stations, that could secure a steady flow of various ores for your purposes.
>You are rebuilding the world, you might as well put them to work, and re-education. (Requires deciding to rebuild the secondary forges.)
>Leave him be as he is, you cannot agree with his decisions, but you cannot deny their effectiveness. A harsh stance is needed in a harsh galaxy.
Honestly did anyone actually think it would end any other way? That the STCs would make a damn difference?

>>5923781
I don't want to ever set foot in the Warp, no matter how nice being able to throw a megaship through it might be or how many Warp countermeasures we have - if we need to do Warp travel for any reason, we do it with human proxies or stick to light ships through the wormhole for the foreseeable future. I wonder if if we have any good Fed ansible designs in our databanks to give orders to other systems when we're away, because I doubt we're getting any astropaths any time soon and the Federation must have had some means of snappy interstellar communication that didn't use tortured psykers.
Though speaking of proxies, I wonder if there's a friendly local Rogue Trader we could recruit into being a go-between for us with the Imperium at large.

>>5923792
Well, for that rogue trader part, thats a definetive yes in that we do know a rogue trader, and a mighty maybe if that could work out. We technically know and have the RT's cousin's daughteer? with us under our control, so thats a possible way into getting him onboard as currying between us and the imperium, but that is still up in the air until we get a good look at what said RT is really all about.

Besides that, we have all of the peaces of going into the warp, including the blood and cloning technology to create a Navigator out of whole cloth thanks to blood supply granted to us before we got transported offline thanks whaterever, and we do have a means of communication/sensory equipment, but its incredibly experimental and we havent really tried it out yet right now since we cant really repair it right now. As for systems, yeah we can basically just give them spec designs of whatever kind of ships we cant, flash create a Astropath clone, grant them to the planet, with the appropriate tech to make said ship, and Ta-Da!

>>5923796
Have to hand it to the Federation for building an interstellar empire wholly on the back of a sneakernet, especially before they got ahold of Navigators. We should be able to make Navigators vastly better than current since we have pure genetic data without >18k years of gene degradation, inbreeding and Warp influence, hopefully that can live without slowly turning into deformed fish that might get some volunteers for splicing - the rest of the Navis Nobilite's heads would explode on seeing them, or perhaps we can offer genetic restoration to a Renegade House to have them exclusively work for us as a plausible cover.
Later we may have the opportunity to thieve and study Necron and the slowboat Tau FTL methods and see if we can do anything useful with their technology (a friendly RT would help with getting hold of xenotech, or we can track down some Xenarites), but we're not going to encounter either of those for a long time, by which time we might well have the damn wormholes down anyway - as funny as portaling into the middle of the Tau Empire, blowing one of their ships up and beating it with their stuff would be.

>>5923765
You think Robby G will support us? I guess if we somehow manage to heal him he'll desperately need our help whipping the Imperium back into shape since Cawl doesn't even exist. So I guess he'd have no choice but to back us and accept our help unless he wants to take on the sisyphean task of fixing the Imperium alone.

>>5923564
>>5923565
>This planet needs to be reclaimed, you shall reinforce the secondary forges for repopulation as best you can with what you have at hand, which to be fair, is quite a lot.
>You are rebuilding the world, you might as well put them to work, and re-education. (Requires deciding to rebuild the secondary forges.)
>Imprison him. Perhaps the greatness kindness you can offer him, a humanitarian approach as befitting the last remnant of the Human Federation.
>(Write in)
Celt needs a time out, strip him of his augs and have him contemplate his actions and the future. (we will release him after year and some conversations with him). We just can't let a nuclear holocaust slide with out at least some symbolic slap on the writs.)

>>5923824
Alright, first for the Navis nobility, yeah our stuff will absolutely be the best their is in the galaxy, even the best the galaxy has to offer is likely going to be but a pale shadow to just one of our normal clones, and nevermind any clones that we REALLY put effort into behind it at that. But we are absolutely going to be every single Navis Nobilitaes enemies. Not only do we have an alternative to the only thing that keeps them alive, power, wealth, and a (Somewhat) comfortable existance. We can straight up destroy a house by flashing cloning a 1,000 Naviigator's in a week, all of which are better then their britest and strongest heirs put together. AND can freely give this out to anyone, completely destroying their power and royalty they have clawed to for over 10,000 years with a pen stroke. If their are any renegade houses that would accept it, its either going to be dying houses, or houses that are really short-sighted and can't see the consequences of them getting newer and better heirs would entail. Not that we would allow something like the Navigator houses to exist anyway. Extorting, blackmail, destruction of means to otherwise not go into hell, amongst other crimes, already means we would never tolerate any navigator house long term.

In term's of FTL and other Xenotechnology, Necrons yes, Tau fuck no. Necrons are, pretty much in all ways more advanced then us, with the absent of psychic technology, but then again their whole thing is about suprising it so that doesnt really matter much to them in the end. Their FTL allows them to just simply move faster then light itself can be able to move between half way across the galaxy in less then 5 seconds from how one book describes their speeds. But our tech, allows us to just teleport across space without needing to go so fast that we can cross the galaxy by simply being super fast. Its why Necrons really like Dolmen gates, since they can of a sort, still do the whole thing of instant teleportation between areas without needing to get engines set up to doing it, but definitely something we should look into all the same. As for Tau, their technology is in every single capacity inferior to the Imperium's (with a couple of exceptions), so they are already out of the game worth studying for technology. If we do ever get the wormhole technology down completely, then asking to study either factions ftl stuff is already pointless as our tech is better then theirs when it comes to flight travel then.
>>5923826
My boy, we are CAWL! We've simply been a better version then the one GW made in a 3 part campaign book that they then needed to shoe-horn into a HH book to explain his existence. If we give Guilliman enough time, show how royally fucked everything is, and try and pull of the exact samething we did to get Celt to hear us out and not shoot us (allong with, you know bringing him back safe and alive), then weve got a solid chance of it working.

>>5923845
With some help from likely Celt trying to smooth things over, and taking a slower, gentler pace of getting him to at least trust we have Mankind's best intrest's at heart, then we have a solid chance of it working. Lord knows he's already in current Canon done plenty of shady enough shit to try and have the intrests of humanity be put forward, like making an extra-saucy alliance with a major Xeno faction, deliberatly cause the Highlord to rebel so he had a reason to kill them and replace them, have Cawl do his Primaris thing and daubble into demonhost/greyknight shit in the past. He is by no means going to flock towards us, just as much as he isnt going to pull elaborate experiments like a fucking looney radical inquisitor. But the bridge is their, and all we need to do is get him to trust us enough to at least let us give him some STC's for stuff like agriculture, or like Lasgun tier GAoT weapons we have that can be easily given to him.

>>5923849
And try and build it up from their, with of course the knowledge that this is an incredibly precise work that is going to take a long time for it to be even close to what Celt has in terms of trust towards us.

>>5923826
There is zero chance of Rowboat not betraying us if he doesn’t attack us on the spot. The only way for us to avoid causing the potential extinction of humanity by accident is to not reveal ourselves.

>>5923850
I don't think there's really a Fed-tech equivalent of a lasgun it's all too complex and potentially hazardous for the average guardsman to use but we could probably start handing out STCs for volkite weapons and antiquated power armor like candy. Some industrial versions of that Fed-standard ration fabricator STC would probably be something he'd love too.

>>5923864
Agreed, but I was just referring to something that while incredibly complex to build, is still easy to interact with. A gun is a gun, no matter how advanced or strange looking you try to make it out to be otherwise. I’m not saying the FED had something as terrible as a lasgun, definitely something incredibly price of work, but that it’s a very easy thing to produce and interact with that Dark age related fire arms, though antiquated to Imperium level technology is something I’m just as fine giving to gill as long as it’s something that can be used to try and impress the guy.
>>5923862
One, we’ve already done that a couple of times already, so not hiding ourselves just got shot in the foot on that front. And two, how and why the fuck would he be able to try and betray us, if we make ourselves to be an incredible Ally for him? If he tries to start attacking us, then by that point we’ve already fucked up and are just going to keep going back to the drawing board on what we should do. That’s why the whole idea behind this idea, is to get him to trust us enough to carry out some plans and/or revisions we would like for him to carry out before we get even close to hinting at what we are. And once we get him to belief that we have the ability to save humanity from annihilation, with a bit of trick of either you destroy us “and every last STC in the galaxy gets destroyed” or you let us live and serve under you and you get not only all of this tech, but also have the ability to improve the citizens of the imperium with us never disobeying a command you set forth that won’t result in our termination or death of humanity.

>>5923875
Once all of that is carried out, we get an armed support group that watches our every move (but can’t really stop us even if they tried) and Guilliman is none the wiser thinking he’s in control of the situation, when in reality it’s us.

And besides that, what plan do you have? Besides "not reveal ourselves", do you actually have a plan on what we should do, or are you going to give a good reason why we should not do that at all?

You regard Celt once again, whom is currently busy curiously staring at the drones swarming around him, cleaning the remnants of blood that had stained his clothing and also conducting repairs upon the metal parts of his body. The speed at which he had recovered is no doubt surprising for him as he is busy poking his wound in clear confusion as he no doubt is unable to feel any pain from it, not only because of the drug mixture he was injected with, but also because the wound had been fully closed.

”Celt, I register that your condition is improving, you should be able to fully recover within the standard day.”

“Excellent.” He says with a nod. “What of Omicron Teledesh ?”

”I had decided to rebuild it, some of the secondary forges appear to have been less affected from the fallout. Inserting some newer technologies here and there, radiation shielding being the first and foremost of the modifications that I am planning. I too plan to resettle the survivors there.”

“A wise decision, while our forgeworld may lack in comparison to holy Mars or other forges able to offer resistance to its overbearing influence, it is still a sacred world of the Machine God, though its importance for the sector will undoubtedly decrease. While rebuilding efforts will be undertaken, no doubt the tithe-grade shall be reduced, and proportionally, that means the amount of attention paid by the Adeptus Administratum and Mars shall too proportionally decrease. It would usually mean death as there would be little to no assistance offered in terms of protection, but the current situation shall work the best for our needs.”

”You had thoroughly planned this.” You flatly state.

“A change as great as this, demands at least this much.”
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You spend the next month gathering resources floating freely all around you and preparing various prefabs and swarms of nanomachines to be unleashed in a wide-scale construction effort. For now you had concentrated on gathering materials primarily and only restoring one of the forges, enough to comfortably house any survivors that you will be able to find and house enough resources to allow for them to begin their own manufacturing or construction efforts.

Speaking of survivors, Celt had demanded to be let onto the world’s surface and onto the secondary forge so that he could witness the rebuilding effort personally. An indulgence you are willing to accept as keeping him busy through the fascination of basic construction is better than allowing him to wander the hull and poke everything he wants to.

>>5924040

And finally, at the coming end of the month, the radiation had begun dissipating enough for your concentrated and directed efforts to start locating pockets of survivors. It would have been so much easier had the tech-priests possessed proper S.O.S. systems rather than simple radio transmitters easily distorted by radiation. Out of all the survivors you had managed to gather, based upon their fervent prayers and thanks when you had arrived massively outnumbering the number of priests that had started shooting at you the moment they saw you, it is clear that nearly 93% of all survivors are backers of Celt, or at least his ideal that you are in fact an angelic intelligence. This leaves a small, but stubborn minority that believes you to be the incarnation of the devil himself. For now however, you transport all of them to the newest forge temple, one that Celt, alongside the first arrivals, had renamed it to Deimea, a word with the meaning of forgotten, forgetfulness, but it is too a word in the local dialect meaning new memory.

With a hint of disappointment, you do note, the survivors whom had backed Celt had proven to be even more zealous than the priests upon Xandrirah, now considering you the embodiment of the motive force, a chance of redemption, of great knowledge and progress sent forth by the Omnissiah. It does not help that Celt considers you to be as such himself. Due to your decision to present yourself as divine before, you do not intervene, if for no other reason than to ensure the stability of their psyche, lest it collapses if they start considering their actions to have been wholly their fault. Still, such things as machine spirits, the endless rituals and prayers, that is something you can try to uproot by granting them blueprints of the various machines that they worship and ensure that they can truly comprehend what they are working upon. Though perhaps that is something you should not have done, as giving them their greatest pursuit – knowledge, had only further affirmed in their minds your position as something truly Angelic. All you know, is that the process of re-education shall be long, and quite a painful one.

In total, Deimea now houses a bit more than a hundred thousand people, overwhelmingly this includes servitors and skitarii all of whom can hardly be considered human. In actuality, there is only around a couple of thousand tech-priests left and roughly forty thousand laymen as the tech-priests refer to them. As such, even the secondary forge you had started to rebuild is vast compared to the miniscule population.

Unsurprisingly, Celt had taken a leading position of the survivors, and in a one-sided, utterly rigged and false farce of an election, he was made Fabricator-Generator of Omicron Teledesh. It helps when all possible opposition had been obliterated in a nuclear holocaust.
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>>5924043

And as another month passes, you finish reinforcing Deimea against radiation, creating a large dome around the forge and purging the radiation soaked within, that is where, the Omnissiah’s flowing silver came in to good use. The nanomachines had stripped away metal that had been irradiated whilst at the same time replacing it. The sheer number of raw materials you have had allowed you to achieve reconstruction speed that you had long wished for ever since you had to take on the effort of rebuilding Xandrirah.

For now Deimea stands at the ready and the populace is setting in and adapting to their new environment with quite the surprising degree of endurance, seemingly indifferent about the difficulty of their new lives.

>Stay within system, you could certainly work upon it with numerous projects. Further options will be presented if chosen.

>Return to Xandrirah, you had been gone for quite a while.

>Move to another system. (Which ?)

>>5924044
>Return to Xandrirah

>>5924044
>Stay within system, you could certainly work upon it with numerous projects.
Literally zero point in not trying to get everything up and running. Also we gotta try and quitely convert the nonbelievers. We should probably spend a good two years here leaning everything up. Mabye produce an STC for the locals to convince them of our "divinity".
We do need to rez Girlyman at some point soon though.

>>5923875
>how and why the fuck would he be able to try and betray us
Let’s just say the man is a skilled politician and has a history. Also the rest of your post is retarded. Nothing you said understands 40k.
STCs are not as great as you think they are. They won’t save humanity from extinction, only delay it. Our existence is far too harmful to allow regardless of whatever benefit the STCs give and he will plot to destroy us. He is the enemy.

>>5924068
Don't be to paranoid here anon, we haven't even met the guy yet, we dont even know what type of character newb will make him out to be IF we get to meet him at all. Don't derail to much with hypothetical scenarios.

>>5924044
>>Return to Xandrirah, you had been gone for quite a while.
recruit now

>>Return to Xandrirah
It will take decades at best, before that forge is filled up with new people, and our education to making everyone more smart is also going to take a long time as it is. Anything dangerous is now firmly dead, and nothing else now can harm them. Let’s go back to Xandrian to get that damn nano virus working, on the two possible races that deserve to be killed by nano it’s so they don’t become a problem anymore on every planet we need to fight from a pack of Waaaghs or hivefleet tendrils.

>>5924044
>Return to Xandrirah, you had been gone for quite a while.

Can we give Celt the location of the star system we got our rare resources from?
While we are at it can we also give them tech that helps shield from the radiation of that star?
>If yes then I vote for this too.

This is of course to establish a mining outpost in that system which ships resources to Xandriah Prime (Itacha and maybe later the primary Hive) and Omicron Teledesh to help develop it.

Another quetion regarding lore and the quest.
If I remeber right most of the ships the Imperium uses today are derived from golden age cargo freighters that were built separately in modules then later assembled.
Imperial ships are built in one go and are quite inefficent in this regard.
Would it be possible to give them instructions to make these more efficent ships, and retrofit existing ones with autoloaders?

The artwork with the slaves and the gigantic shell is whack as hell. Such ridiculous things have no place in our territory.

>>5924118
Their are ships that do have autoloaders, but those are reserved for the more ancient/more powerful/prestigious/better made products of whatever forge world made said ship.
As for what their deprived from, the lore never says they were deprived from cargo ships, but in this quest it would make perfect sebse since every imperial ship recognised by Ody always reads like that of a civilan style ship, which would make perfect sense with every ship pretty much just being retrofitted cargo haulers made into Man O'War ships.
Interms of one and go, I would say that while it would be possible to give any world/forgeworld the STC to include autoloaders, we haven't actually figured out yet that a majority of imperial ships do literally everything by hand. We don't even know this thing with the slaves and sheels are even a thing yet, since weve never gone into the insides of an imperial ship that wasnt blown up or all of its crew killed. And even if we did do that, that would likely only stop future ships from missing an autoloader, and maybe for those ships that have the time or the need, it can also be applied to them as well, but as you know that could be a long time before it could ever happen.

Also, we havent told him that we reside in Xandrian, nor the fact that the rare resources we got, was from a fucking blue Star! So, unless we give him the exact same process of acquiring material without being radiation blasted to hell and back for Celt, I dont see how useful that would be? Also the star is absolutely not the problem for the planet. ITs all of the radiation, heat, and techtonic upheaval dozens of mega-nuclear missiles launched off and incerating dozens of former and current forge citites in a couple of hours. Thankfully most of the extreme heat and radiation has dispered and cooldown, but its still going to be a long time before it ever returns to the habitability of old. Though, it did also kill all of the tyranids on planet, so now we don't need to worry about any stragglers left on the planet from the swarm, so that's nice I guess.

>>5924142
The point on Imperium naval vessels explicitly being bodged modular cargo ships might be some fanlore crossing over from 40kAI, though it was stated in this quest that they were civilian designs. We did extensively scan and reconstruct reconstruct the design of the Imperial fleet back in the first thread so we have a good idea of what they look like internally, though it's possible Oddie might not have realised the implications of what he saw.

>>5924142
The antiradiation tech would be useful to them on their home and for the mining outpost they would set up in the blue star system.

The outpost would send these resources to set up stockpiles on our worlds that we can use when needed, or when they need it. I was thinking we could get this forgeworld to help repair or reverse engineer our more exotic GAOT stuff that we are afraid to touch.

I forgot to elaborate but this plan entails that these worlds pile up resources and later do research while we are out doing stuff elswhere.

>>5924118

>Can we give Celt the location of the star system we got our rare resources from?

You can, yes.

>While we are at it can we also give them tech that helps shield from the radiation of that star?

You can do so as well.

Though I would like to point out, Celt is not in possession of any void ships that he can use to get off planet.

>Another quetion regarding lore and the quest.
>If I remeber right most of the ships the Imperium uses today are derived from golden age cargo freighters that were built separately in modules then later assembled.
>Imperial ships are built in one go and are quite inefficent in this regard.
>Would it be possible to give them instructions to make these more efficent ships, and retrofit existing ones with autoloaders?

The hulls are civilian rated in terms of size, speed and firepower, rather outdated at that, the ship hulls themselves had been massively changed though so Ody has no plans on any of those ships. He'd need a full blueprint of a vessel that he can then reiterate and improve. Though for now he could give designs of civilian vessels whose shape and form would conform to Imperium standards as best as able while keeping it as modern as possible without being too obvious, though if anyone would actually get onto such a ship, it'd be rather obvious.

Also, I saw an anon ask a question about cloning last thread, and I just now remembered. Yes, Ody has the tech for cloning. Though it is noted when it comes to full body cloning usage, that all clones tend to rapidly expire due to "bad luck", annoyingly and unscientifically as that sounds for Ody.

If anyone has any questions regarding anything in the quest feel free to ask, if I miss it, it's because I am forgetful and usually tired, so just poke me a bit more till I get to it.

>>5924159
Fair enough, it was just something that I never saw remarked upon from ODy for him to realise what it was that was just so primitive and wrong about the ships he saw. I mean, he doesnt even realise that destroying a worlds biosphere to reduce it into a barren rock like what Celt did, is a, somewhat, Normal thing with Inquisitors and other high ranking people of power. So, yeah the Droid I would say still has a long way to go to fully understand how the imperium of today, works now in comparison to the past.
>>5924164
Oh absolutlety, if we set that tech up and gave it to the worshippers with the ability to gather and create resoruce material from the Blue star we know of, it would do wonders for us whenever we needed to repair or build something like a new ship to use for combat. As for their home, I do not believe that giving that tech is needed, as they would have no way to possibly repair and restore their world without millions of extra bodies they dont have, and a desire to expand out, when they really really dont have for the moment. Later down the line in a couple of years, sure but not right now.

In terms of the stockpile stuff, sure makes sense. And Im fine with that idea, but their is no current way, that a bunch of Techpriests that dont even know how to make a guardian spear, are going to know how to repair or reverse or tech, especially the more exotic stuff. They simply just dont know enough yet to be able to understand some of the presimbles of how our tech works, or how its operation should be done for it to work well right now, unfortunately. But definetly something I would like for us to return to in the future, especisally if we can get them to focus solely on working on making a better and more advanced wormhole generator then the one we already have right now.

I like that plan, but we still need to have these worlds build up their technology and stability, before we can just go and leave without the fear of something horrficly wrong going by for more then a few months in a year, like the fucking hell that was all of the nonsense with Xandrian or everything with Sector Clarus. But having something like that is what I hope we later on do, do once we have a solid control over the sector and we begin to help improve the lives of the citizens inside it and are willing to put some effort into doing various things for us, depending on the world. Like for fortress worlds, an extra crop of troops trained into our specific kind of warfare so we dont need to do the 10 year training regime by ourselves, having some mining worlds make a stockpile for us in addition to the tithe sent towards terra, research from our forge world into the wormhole besides production, etc, etc.

>>5924168
Love that info, thanks! And yeah, theirs the fucking bane of Clones. The universe really fucking hates them, so if we do have any technology to make a fullblown NAvigator, we're basically going to need to give them the cloning chamber as well, otherwise they will maybe last 2 years before their heads explode, or their heart has a seizure, or anything else that might fall under "Bad Luck". Which fucking sucks, but its a problem that's still worth the trouble at the end of the day.

>>5924090
You don’t need to know shit about Guilliman to know Hanged is getting high off his own farts.
There is no room for coexistence with the Imperium if we openly present ourselves as an AI and any change in the Imperium’s power structure has the potential to bring humanity’s extinction regardless of what that change is. Just trying to “help” humanity can kill all of humanity, yet Hanged expects that he can solve all problems and get a happy ending because we have an STC database.
Hell just read what his post says: “and every last STC in the galaxy gets destroyed.” Even with a massive cult worshipping Odysseus that’s not possible.

>>5924090
I would advise to leave the ass alone and not try to talk to him. If he has his own belief on what is right, and he proclaims everyone else that isn't accepting his belief is a narcissist or a retarded idiot, then your not going to get through their paranoia, regardless of the argument you try and lay down at their feet to point to in order to challenge their world view.

>>5924179
We don't need to vat-grow Navigators at all. We have the technology to splice the Navigator gene into people, so all we need is some suitable volunteers (hard sell, but surely we can find a few willing) and a big effort into making an advanced genetics chop shop.

>>5924262
You know, fair enough if the cost behind cloning is indeed too high, then in reality we dont need to do a whole lot of cloning, maybe create our own high quality navigator house that has the genes of said Naviagator's. It would possibly also allow us to do corrective genetherapy to any Navi house that we come across that is either desparete, renegade, or some form of hpuse that would see this as an oppertunity to get over their rival houses in other sectors, star systems, segmentums, etc. Would still posses the same problem of before, where we can just introduce new navigators into existence without the say so of existing power structures, which they really wouldn't like, but its definitely a less dangerous spin then the idea of flash cloning a whole house in a month. And we are definetly going to want to get involved with that gene-shop. The Space Marines and Custodese are going to be a damn handful for us, once we start taking a look at them in order to improve them to the Fed's standard of Elite Genetherapy, rather then the Basic+ that every space marine is already at. Which is still absolutely impressive considering this was made by the emperor from the ground up, but again theyve probably are only at basic genetherapy, but a little bit better because E. Though thats after we even get a look at what a space marine is, and how we can get a look on their insides.

>>5924168
If thats the case, can I ask a couple of questions about the tyranids and stealers?

Is it okay if some of modern lore can be incorporated into how they work, where as it is technically written in some books, not all Genesteallers are killed when a planet is taken over. Instead, they are brought onto a hive ship, fed for however long it takes, before bringing them awake and then throw them like chaff along with the rest of the chaff, in order to devastate a planet and help the invasion fleet have an easier time conquering it then it would otherwise. Also, if the fleet is ever defeated or driven off, then the surviving genestealers can survive and keep on the fight after the recover in order to bring back the tendril and succesfully take over the planet for them to have a willing planet to be eaten for round 2. Their still the vast majority of the time eaten when a planet is taken over and consumed, but their are some that the hivemind keeps around to use as i mentioned before.

>>5924281
Oh, and the second one, is that the hive mind has come across a new idea of sorts, where on some planets it doesn’t eat the world, it conquer’s it and builds a massive psychic node that serves a couple of purposes. For one, it attracts genestealer from across space that might be on a ship somewhere to come to them, two it allows the hive mind to strengthen and project its mind over it’s subordinate without the fear of it being a head creature like a Swarmlord that can be killed in a duel, and thirdly it crushes the warp with its shadow, making it even harder then before to use the warp and further blocks astropath communication that is already shrouded, and in some cases weren’t already covered by the shadow already. Can those be considered canon to the quest as the hivemind comes closer and closer, or no?

>>5924281
>>5924286

Undetermined. Such shifts in the faction and how it operates I will leave up to vote for you anons. The only thing I am not putting to vote is making Cawl and Primaris a thing, I hate them and everything related to them.

>>5923564
>>You are rebuilding the world, you might as well put them to work, and re-education. (Requires deciding to rebuild the secondary forges.)

>This planet needs to be reclaimed, you shall reinforce the secondary forges for repopulation as best you can with what you have at hand, which to be fair, is quite a lot.

>The numerous resources present in system would easily allow you to build a few automated self-replicating mining stations, that could secure a steady flow of various ores for your purposes.

>Leave him be as he is, you cannot agree with his decisions, but you cannot deny their effectiveness. A harsh stance is needed in a harsh galaxy.

>Tell him that what he did was unacceptable we have 3000+ different ways we could of resolved this without loss of human life to this extent.

>Rebuild the world to federation standards. Time to prep.

After we get everything automated and set up.

>Start gene editing and cloning bay. We shall make super soldiers and humans. Show their brilliance to convert other humans to gene update.

>Then do the memory upgrade for ourselves.

>Build spacestation manufactorums.

>Start making ships.

>>5924295
Oh, alright then fair enough. Does this mean that any gene study we get involved with any space marines are similarly off the books for us to look around in and try to improve their genetic makeup, or is that a no go?

>>5924299
Oops didn't see I missed the vote. Ignore the irrelevant things. But the majority is still what I'd like to do before going back. We left xandirha in a good position especially with some of celts favored on the planet.

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>>5924276
Hence my idea for bringing in an obscure, disfavoured and desperate Navigator house as cover, they'd jump at the chance to be relevant. Then again, would the Imperium really question where we got our Navigators from - surely they don't come on board, bang on the door of the Sanctum and ask to check their guild membership cards? Navigators are a wacky bunch at the best of times with more houses than you can shake a stick at and new ones on the bottom rungs of the ladder coming and going all the time so not being from a recognised house would be unlikely to raise many eyebrows.

Oh, one last question, though its not whether or not, something is canon to 8th edition later on or not. Instead its how truly powerful the Dark city of Commoragh truly is. See, since we never see the Dark Eldar fightning at the most powerful/serious, weve never really seen what kind of hell they can do, so Im curious to see what you would classify that the Dark Eldar, if properly serious and for whatever reason decided to fully unite and throw every last terrifying weapon at dispoasal at an enemy, be it us, The imperium, Orkdum, Hivefleets, and necrons, what would be the fallout and what would happen? I know that the Dark Eldar currently were able to stop the destruction of their city when they trapped the Armies of Slannesh in a bunch of small dimensions incorporated in the city, but what else can they really do to show just how terrifying they can be when they decide to throw down the guantlet? (Also apparently, Zaherial is in fact Cypher. Read that as you will with the guy and what his current dispotion is after his whole fleeing from Terra stint.)

>>5924307
Absolutely, certainly we cant just make one up. They would have records of as many houses as they could get their hand's on, so a house of psychicly powerful navigators showing up on the fringes, with no back sotry of any kind, would raise plenty of eye brows. The great idea though, would be to take the name of a dead family of navigator that was killed for some reason that wasnt the whole house falling traitor or chaos corruption. But then after that, we should have our cover secured and be safe from suspicion on that front.

>>5924301

>Oh, alright then fair enough. Does this mean that any gene study we get involved with any space marines are similarly off the books for us to look around in and try to improve their genetic makeup, or is that a no go?

You can, since it would take a highest tier GAoT A.I. to even think about improving the geneseed, besides someone like Fabius.

>>5924307

>would the Imperium really question where we got our Navigators from

They would, anon. Navigators are few and far between in comparison to the many warp capable voidships the Imperium has, their houses whilst hidden in mysticism and obscurity are well documented exactly because of how valuable they are. Making a fake house, or boosting one to prominence might fly for a few decades, maybe even a century or two, but it will raise eyebrows eventually once the word spreads, and it will raise many eyebrows at that.

>>5924310

>how truly powerful the Dark city of Commoragh

Very, they still hold tech and weapons from the height of Eldar Empire, so it only makes sense that they are absurdly powerful if they bring the big toys out, especially considering that they have many Eldar that are old enough to remember the Empire proper. It's just like with the Craftworld Eldar, if they are united to the extent where they can employ such weapons, everyone in the galaxy will want to dogpile them. Shooting stars is cool and all, but summoning a warp rift to just dispel it might just dampen any plans for expansion.

Also, returning to Xandrirah wins, writing.

>>5924332
Welp scrath out my wording on what the the genseed was like, because hot Damn I had no idea it was that good. Well, that definetly means no fucking around with the ability to make something alongside the outline of a custodese then. Which, eh is fine I suppose, especially when our Tech is actually more advanced then their genetic work, and psychic equipment. Which while amusing, is going to be great to cut our mouths into to see how you present how these things would look like in comparison it would be like for an 0 A.I. and what the emperor made versus what the federation made in their day.

>>5924044
>Stay within system, you could certainly work upon it with numerous projects.

Leaving Celt and his fellow priests to their efforts of reconstruction, one slowed by the simple lack of manpower, you begin your return journey towards Xandrirah, trusting in what you put down on Omicron Teledesh to carry the survivors for years to come without your direct intervention.

Spending a few days moving, you reach the system’s edge, away from anything that might interfere with the wormhole, and with twisting of whites and blacks, you puncture a hole in reality, instantaneously connecting two points of the universe with one another and rather precariously slide through it.

As you return, and a few days of travel later, you are instantly flooded with months’ worth of reports that you swiftly sift through all of them. Luckily, the efforts you had taken to ensure peace and stability had borne fruit, though in an unexpected manner. While Secundus remains as usual, the arbites ruling with an iron fist, the overall conditions for prisoners had improved, though still inhumane, but undoubtedly viewed as quite merciful by modern humans. Upon Prime, there had been a fracturing, rather than going to war, as was feared for so long, the democratic faction led by Justicator had basically taken over a hive city in a clear split agreed upon with the aristocratic faction led by the Governess. In a matter striking back all the way to the bronze age of mankind or the early iron age, the two hives are now acting wholly independently of each other, but for the fact that Justicator had agreed to offer what is needed to meet the tithe that will be demanded by the Administratum in exchange for a guarantee of freedoms. Though the governess had also managed to complete another deal, any persons not part of the founding of this independent city state cannot join it, an excuse to ensure that no citizens run away to join this experiment.

For matters concerning you far more – the city of Ithaca. The people there had remained fine after your departure, with the ruling Archons so far reigning without much complaints from the people. It is unsurprising as the first generation is usually the one that is still driven by the ideals that had resulted in the founding to begin with. As you had expected, the various churches had been raised and a great cathedral had been constructed in the centre of the city, close to the primary administrative buildings. A large structure, reminiscing with the gothic style rises high into the air, looming over the city where one could see the high rising towers from anywhere, a massive golden aquila hangs in between the two towers, shining whenever the artificial light falls upon it. Apparently, far more gold was requested and wanted, but in the council vote, the idea was shot down by a slim margin, gold is a heavy metal and it is quite valuable for electronics and other purposes for construction and expansion.

>>5924421

Speaking of expansion, other matter of note for the culture of the local people had come to the fore, the shared trauma and helplessness had evolved into a strong ideal of self-improvement through martial prowess. The ideas were poorly formed, but once they were formed Lieutenant Antonius Drogode and the remnants of the 105th Kodorn regiment had taken those ideals with stride, added on top of that another ten thousand men in training and the fact that O.D.D. had started to use Ithaca as their base of operations having been apart from you for so long had only further spurred these ideals. As it stands, a local regiment is to be raised with volunteers flocking to it, those whose psych profiles or genetic dispositions you had to pass over had found a new place, they are still being trained and drilled, but soon enough another 5,000 men shall be soon raised. Thanks to the advanced nature of Ithaca, at least by Imperium standard, those soldiers are all equipped to antiquated standard, possessing power armour and volkite weaponry.

This does raise a point, one that your militaristic subsystem had informed you about – there is a massive lack of manpower for further military operations, while you could just produce more and more drones, there are clearly enemies that can interfere with their functioning and leave you exposed to potential dangers. Such a recruitment drive would necessitate a system wide census effort that would demand your full attention as you would have to pick through the populace for the people that are the most genetically and mentally compatible, one a plus-side, Ithaca would be populated in a controlled manner with compatible people as the chosen few’s families would be housed there as a further incentive for military service.

Of course, if you would choose to undertake the recruitment drive, you would have to decide the numbers and quality of the troops you wish to raise, whether or not the starting estimates would be reachable remains to be seen, but it is always good to have a goal.

Can pick more than one. Option must reach half of total votes to pass. A great project will consume all of Odysseus’ attention and no other option can be picked alongside it.

>Change your research topic (Eldar technology, Tyranid genetics.)

>Maintain your research into the corrupted cores, despite the risks that can carry.

>Begin a great project, you doubt you will be able to hide anyone of these. (Shipyard, mass manufactorums, Federation standard city, underground facility to hide within, strip-mine Secundus, mass recruitment drive, (Write-in))

>Direct the tech-priests, they will undoubtedly obey your every word. (What ?)

>Depart the system. (Straskenors territory, Pulsar with rich rare resources, Eregenus, GSDGW-1, Omicron Teledesh, somewhere else.)

>(Write in)

>>5924423
>Begin a great project, you doubt you will be able to hide anyone of these. (Shipyard, mass manufactorums, Federation standard city, underground facility to hide within, strip-mine Secundus, mass recruitment drive, (Write-in))

>Mass recruitment drive.
>Manufactorums
>Shipyards
>repair more of the hives
>Strip mine secundus

>Increase our data processing

>Begin a great project, you doubt you will be able to hide anyone of these. (Shipyard, mass manufactorums, Federation standard city, underground facility to hide within, strip-mine Secundus, mass recruitment drive, (Write-in))
>> Development of a controllable nanobot swarm that can specifically detect Tyranid organisms and will prioritize eating and devouring said material to make more of itself. With a kill switch where if all Tyranid life is no longer detected on the planet it detonates into golden sand.

This has been my passion project for over two damn months now, I am not going to waste my one chance that can be down to finally solve a problem that has/will haunt the galaxy for centuries to come. And, which can then be repurposed to also destroy the second type of life in the galaxy, one of the oldest types in the galaxy by 65-66 million years.

>>5924423
>Maintain your research into the corrupted cores, despite the risks that can carry.

>Begin a great project, you doubt you will be able to hide anyone of these. (underground Mass Manufactorums)

>>5924439
>>5924497
You both cant choose more then one great project, and neither can you choose multiple great projects unless you want to waste that many more months completelying each one. You're going to have to either want to vote for one singular great project, or a mix of other projects that you would desire besides a great project.
>>5924423
Now that I have some time alone, alright, in the 7 months we were gone, everything in Ithaca went along swimmingly which was fantastic. Great to see, more shocking to me was that Secundus improved the living standards of the prisoners, and the civil war has finally died down. Likely the now split hive-city, is just being studied for both sides to see if their can in fact be peace between the two sides, which can then be formed under a united government, or it will slowly be started to create a whole new faction that has taken a mix-match from both sides to match their own liking. Hope this makes it even more promising for a extended peace and chance for a unified and secure world government in the months and years to come.

>Maintain your research into the corrupted cores, despite the risks that can carry.
>mass recruitment drive

The idea that you can just nanomachine away orks or nids makes no sense, if it was that easy the eldar would have scrubbed the galaxy clean of orks for good at the height of their empire that lasted tens of millions of years.
Nids are way worse then orks and engaging in microscopic warfare is just tuesday for them forcing us into a eternal arms race that logistically we won't be able to commit to. Gork and Mork will upgrade the boys as well in time they will just half ass it unless our nanomachines become a meaningful threat.

The hive world is only good for the massive amounts of soldiers we can gain and drag with us to deal with warp nonsense, aside from occasional check ins and troop pickups we might as well move our main operations to our fait accompli of a post apocalyptic forge world.

Most important thing is to clean the sector of the exponentially snowballing nids that destroy every system they conquer utterly and irreversibly, plus the imperium has no fucking hope dealing with the scale the nids operate at, no plot armor marine boys swooping in to save the day in this quest.

>>5924423
>Maintain your research into the corrupted cores, despite the risks that can carry.

>Begin a great project, you doubt you will be able to hide anyone of these.
A shipyard, since space superiority can end fights before they can reach a planet. Also needed if we ever decide to replicate the wormhole generator.

>Direct the tech-priests, they will undoubtedly obey your every word. (What ?)
Have them assist us with our research, though I'd like to hear what other anons have to say on this.

>>5924423
>Depart the system. (Eregenus)
I'm gonna be a contrarian and vote to go commit xenocide on the nearby orks before they show up in Xandrirah.

>>5924423
>>5924537

Changing my earlier vote.

>Maintain your research into the corrupted cores, despite the risks that can carry.
>mass recruitment drive
>Direct the tech-priests, inquire into any of their experiences dealing with situations akin to the corrupted core issue or psychic subversion of technology and if they possess any solutions or means of mitigation.

Hate to repost so soon to fix up my vote but I completely forgot about the priests. Our cogboys are going to have encountered our corruption problem and would have at least tried as hard as possible to deal with it. We also received psy tech blueprints from our magos so Ody should be able to conceive of the idea that psychic powers or technology could directly subvert or attack technology.

>>5924511
I had chosen more then one great project? I wanted us to instead put the manufactorums underground and not above ground.

Or are you saying looking into our corrupted core is a great project?

>>5924547
>A great project will consume all of Odysseus’ attention and no other option can be picked alongside it

>>5924549
>Implying I am able to read
I am a simple sub-system, I do not have higher computer powers.

>>5924423
Changing my vote here >>5924497
too
>Maintain your research into the corrupted cores, despite the risks that can carry.

>>5924537
I am going to diagree hard on that one, Microscpoic warfare is something that has been reported to never have been a thing the Eldar have done, and if they did do something like it, it was through psychic means that they could do because they had millions of years with what remained of the tech and relics of the old ones. And when they did rule the galaxy for millions of years, they rested on their laurels and grew lazy enough to not even bother fighting the Krorks before they devolved into the Orks.

The tyrnaids do note heavily focus on microscophic warfare, they use it as a means of stripping a planet clean of all bacterial life after all means of resistance has been crushed and consumed. Otherwise they would neveer creatures beasts of war, as they could just drop a hive ship's worth of these things on a planet and wipe out all life in a manner of months. Which, they really do not do, hence why us using nanobots against hive ships always works rather than it supposedly losing in an arms race every time we engage in it. And finally, no, no Ork is just constantly going to get better from Mork and Gork, otherwise they would never need to fight in the first place to get bigger, tougher stronger, etc. The fact is that the twins are mindless beings that love to fight each other until something drags their attention away from each others fight in order to see whats going on. And no ork is going to be mystically be saved from microscoptic nanobots chewing through their biology before spreading out of their bodies before consuming more of their fellow orks and repeating the cycle over and over again until no more spores are detected.

Besides that, nah we need these guys for more than just men and material, and that's the whole idea of building a shipyard to dock ourselves to finally repair our sensory array and communication equipment, which our post-apocalyptic forge world cannot help us out with, unlike Xandrian thankfully.

>>5924511
Spend the time. We need a fleet and manufacturing base to expand. And more processing power.

Things should be pretty peaceful for a while. That's what Celt said. Less money less interest from the empire.

It's time to econ and tech up.

>>5924561
The fleet I doubt we need because we are a one-man fleet all by ourselves, never mind we should have a fleet of sorts already made after we exterminated the Tendril assaulting Omicron with only 40% casualties. Manufacturing, we don't really need right now as we have plenty enough fab units to make any number of forces that we want if we should so choose to focus on creating in a pinch, or just from the remains of whatever enemies we find and kill that come at us. The processing power will be the only issue I agree with that we should focus on enough to make a great project, because that will cut back on the time it could possibly take to study stuff like repairing sensors, and studying and improving our wormhole, amongst possible other things that we might not be currently aware of. It could also shorten the time it takes for a great project to be completed, in which case I'm all happily for switching around my vote for more processing power, but that's only if Newb says that's allowed and not shot down unfortunately.

Hey Newb, I was scrolling through the ending of Omicron, and I noticed that our whole fleet that we made to fight the nids, doesn't get mentioned after the casualty report, did we just leave our whole fleet that we just made into the void of space to be left behind, or did we bring it back with us to Xandriah? And, secondly, if we do take the great project idea, but do it towards making better processing power, what sort of effects would happen, would it shorten how long a great project should take, does it allow us to repair our sensors in only a few months instead of a year+, does it allow us to be a repeatable affair for even more processing power after that, just what are the pros and cons of us focusing on trying to do a great processing power project?

>>5924423
Hold on hear me out:

>Direct the tech-priests, to begin a mass recruitment drive.

We need people, Teledesh needs more people.
Simply ask for more in exchange of higher cooperation for the tithe with the governess then sort them in secret between mechanically minded to join the priesthood and the military minded to join the O.D.D.

As for what Ody should do eh...
>Depart the system. (Pulsar with rich rare resources).

>>5924567
We can't be everywhere until we have more warp capable ships.

And our new admech friends need warp capable ships too.

>>5924567
I would assume the fleet we made is stranded at Omicron Teledash since they don't have FTL capabilities and we don't have the ability to carry more vessels as far as I know, though they'll be able to give hell to anything that turns up there later. Makes me wonder if we could make travel easier by building a gigantic Warp-capable carrier to ferry around our warships without having to make them all Warp- or wormhole-capable. Might attract attention though. I'm bored so I can dream.
Both us us raised the question of processing power last thread and the answer was yes, we can upgrade ourselves like that though he didn't say what sort of project it would be. I'd say it's the sort of thing we should do on our jaunts into deep space where we can get ahold of resources easily and modify ourselves in peace rather than at Xandirah.

>>5924593
I guess, but the whole point of our gaunt into deep space was just so we could do a series of heavy modifications and repairs that we had needed to do for a long time now, and the whole point of going to Xandrian is so we can keep an eye on the planet while we try to come to mind ideas that we want to focus on in order to focus on something of particular signifigance or desire to accomplish for ourselves and Xandriah. Either way, if thats a yes, then I am instead going to vote for the proccessing power, because that means we might have more options open up to ourselves that allow us to focus on doing things possibly faster or better then what we can already do right now. I just hope the other anon's actually decided to pick a choice on what we should majorly focus on, rather then the scattershot approach weve been going for these past couple of times revisting Xandriah.
>Begin a great project, you doubt you will be able to hide anyone of these. (Shipyard, mass manufactorums, Federation standard city, underground facility to hide within, strip-mine Secundus, mass recruitment drive, (Write-in))
>> Development and increase Processing power to Odysseus.

>>5924600
>support
If I can't have my long list of things

>>5924423
>Depart the system.(Pulsar with rich rare resources)
honestly considering how much this system messes with our systems it will undoubtedly discourage any lesser fleet from traveling to it and it would make a great location for a research base so we can look into that experimental fed tier coms system and the resources for trial and error in the process
>Direct the tech-priests, they will undoubtedly obey your every word. (ask for blueprints of existing imperial ships)
before ody leaves
they may also give use the info for void shields witch will help massively in resisting warp influence

>>5924540
Changing vote to support >>5924578

>>5924423
>Direct the tech-priests, they will undoubtedly obey your every word. (What ?)
Teach them a more Ying and Yang approach to augmentation ad body modification, respect both flesh and metal and try to allow them to function in harmony with each other. (We fix up their crude and ugly augmentation process to be safer and heathier and more efficient and better looking.)
Also try to recruit more people and allow lower level initiates or technicians severing supporting roles without the need to to go full cyborg, to boost numbers.

>Depart the system. (Straskenors territory, Pulsar with rich rare resources, Eregenus, GSDGW-1, Omicron Teledesh, somewhere else.)
Pulsar with rich rare resources (self explanatory.)
Eregenus, (Exterminate the Orks)

What was the system we upgraded ourselves in and left a whole bunch of automated factories on autopilot called again? We should drop by just in case.


>(Write in)
Recruitment and reform our human combat forces (And rename them, Odyssey 1st regiment, Ithaca 2nd regiment, 105th Reinforced Kodorn or New Kodorn/Drogode 3rd Regiment, etc.)
Just curious question for you anons, can we form military "Divisional" or "Brigades" without issue or is that frowned upon by the Imperium?

>>5924623
Supporting, if this means getting a faster way to make bigger wormholes, I’m in.

>>5924600
I'll also back a project to add some virtual IQ points

>>Begin a great project, you doubt you will be able to hide anyone of these.(Processor increase)
Just how much can we increase our IQ per attempt QM?

>>5924572

>Hey Newb, I was scrolling through the ending of Omicron, and I noticed that our whole fleet that we made to fight the nids, doesn't get mentioned after the casualty report, did we just leave our whole fleet that we just made into the void of space to be left behind, or did we bring it back with us to Xandriah?

You cannot bring it back, it is stationed back in Omicron Teledesh, hidden for the moment and ready to act as a rapid response force to BTFO anyone who as much as even thinks of fucking with the system.

>>5925048

>Just how much can we increase our IQ per attempt QM?

Ody currently operates at around 70% capacity as that was the absolute minimum needed to actually calculate how to make the wormhole, so the great project will see him increase it up to 100%, afterwards further upgrades might allow for his subsystems to operate at greater capacities, but you'd hit the wall of diminishing results pretty quick unless those too are upgraded, and Ody can't do that.

>>5925129
Ah damn, well now at least Celt and everyone else is now safe from any further harm then they were before. And if that's the case, then we might want to try to later on focus on creating more ships with wormholes, so we have an actual fleet to accompany us, and not just ourselves then whenever we decide to leave the system to fight another war then. Either way, I'm fine with increasing our capacity to 100%, the fact we've been just operating at 70% this whole time stings my pride something fierce, and hopefully should allow us to do more options besides focusing solely on one great project for 3 months of a year. Though after this upgrade, we should probably go to the pulsar star in order to make a processing facility that will just focus on producing warships for combat till the star itself is used up and eaten until no more materials can be harvested, and where we can be able to create more wormhole generators besides the one, we already possess. After that, make that damn shipyard, and finally repair our sensors. Before we can focus on other stuff like more research into chaos, or finally creating those damn nanoviruses I've been wanting build and test out by now.

>>5925129
>upgrading the sub-systems
I'm finally gonna be able to cook.

>>5925186
correct, we might finally be able to choose more then one thing we can do whenever we decide to do a great project, which is awesome! But, we need to wait before the vote is called, before we will be able to cook about learning how to protect and stop chaos from personally fucking us over with a wave of their pinky finger.

Oh, another question I forgot to ask, is any of the stuff from Gothic wars and its sequel, canon? Like the character spire and his whole journey arc into the 12th Black Crusade before he got lost in the warp hunting Abaddon down after the war was over? Or some of the more side character centric people/factions, like the Sentinel worlds all being the ground of a Necron Dynasty?

Here's a thought, what if us being retarded has actually been a hindrance to chaos corruption all this time. and us going full 100% opens more doors for CHAOS to inflict itself upon us?

>>5925258
But were not retarded? Its just how fast we can number crunch and do actions, much like in the same way someone being able to perceive things faster then others, doesnt mean everyone else is blind, just that his neurons are way faster and easier to perceive data then others around him?

>>5925264
Anon means us other anons palying an AI, not the number crunching.
I don't even know how an AI can be retarded in the first place.

>>5925258
That makes no sense.

>>5925265
> I don't even know how an AI can be retarded in the first place
We have plenty of evidence in the real world for how that would work.

>>5925265
Oh, then in that case, no, no matter how vast we make our processing power, we are always going to be retarded.

>>5925274
I should have been more clear, i meant AGI, not just simple AI.
Also, those aren't retarded just stupid to incoherent.

>>5925274
That's because its a more intelligent version of a google translator engine with a bunch of law codes that restrict its creativity from actually working well. See the self destruction Amazon's AI experienced after it was uploaded with DEI laws, the thing fucking crashed and kept on crashing until it had to be reworked from the ground up.

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>>5925129
Question QM
So back in the last thread we voted for Celt to acquire all the weapons from underground Armory, and I was wondering if we didn't choose to go for the WMD and more exotic weapons down the list, would Celt have still been able to carry out a nuclear holocaust?

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>>5925281
>See the self destruction Amazon's AI experienced after it was uploaded with DEI laws, the thing fucking crashed and kept on crashing until it had to be reworked from the ground up.

Please keep talking.

>>5925715
Ah, fair enough it is a funny thing. Alright, Ill get some links up and give some reasonings why Amazon did a stupid, and why this is affecting other AI machines.

>>5925726
Thanks.
I only found a reference to a Reuters article that apparently no longer exists.

Alright, what happened was that once Amazon realized that ChatAI was a thing, and how remarkably good of a thing it was, they decided to create their own AI. The creation for it was set under an women called Diya Wynn, a left wing women that hard coded into the system progressive talking points into the AI for it to be offesiveless. That caused a couple of errors, because depending on what the thing was in progress ideology, it could resort to problems similair in vain to multiplying zero. This was made a couple of times into the coding, and about 8-9 months ago, it resulted in a error code in the system falling, before the error code repeated itself and kept crashing harder and harder. It's been since then reworked, and now that same old failure probably wont happen again. But damn, is it not funny knowing how this company insider stuff, and its stupid shit like this. Also, a link:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0L_0I3bz8Y

>>5925728
I am absolutely not surprised, Amazon is never going to want something like that surfing on the web. Especially considering this all happened a little bit close to a year ago now from when it happened, but hey Knowledge is power, so guard it well.

>>5924943
>>5924423
support this voteeeeeee mostly what i want.

>>5924943
>+Support+

>>5925048
>support!

Having finished with your record keeping, you quickly go about organizing a certain set of decisions you had made. The most pressing matter you find is upgrading your own processing capacity, as you know that your mind could be easily boosted by a significant margin as the Odyssey had only ever been meant to be an experimental ship, to be replaced and rebuilt after your first successful journey when an endless amount of data would be sifted through by the most brilliant minds of the Federation’s ruling scientist class, oh, what a sight you would have been then. Instead, you will have to address your own issues through stopgap measures.

However, your upgrades shall take time and will leave you vulnerable and you have to continue increasing your militarism, this time simply demands so, as such, while you cannot overlook the mass recruitment drive yourself, you can however, make the tech-priests do it for you with support from your androids. The priests view you as divine and any command you give, they shall undoubtedly obey your commands to its strictest. Though you will not be able to keep a lid on their zeal, you shall to trust your androids to do so, not to mention the Archon council and Lieutenant Drogode shall too need to be involved as at least the families of the brand-new soldiers shall need to be relocated to ensure that there are no split loyalties that would ruinous in the most extreme of occasions. Of course, the other main downside will be time, while it would take you only a few months to finish the drive, this task shall undoubtedly take years, but perhaps it would be for the best as the process being procedural rather than a swift and rapid one might be easier to handle and acclimatise to for everyone involved, not to mention that the tech-priest will be able to pick out recruits for Omicron Teledesh as it is in a desperate need of manpower to assist with its rebuilding process.

Afterwards, you will begin to depart towards the neutron star and once again wash in the radiation of the pulsar, you cannot wait. Had you had eyes, you would also roll them, but, your rare ores will be none-existent once you finish upgrading your processing capacities and you will need to refill your storage.

For now, you begin atmospherically entry and soon enough you hover over Ithaca, your black hull, so useful in the darkness of space, now obviously stands out as blot in the sky. Interfacing with the defensive grid of the city, you begin the process of descent, the protective copula moving in a controlled manner allowing you to safely land deep in the city while still maintaining the quality of the air.

>>5926744

You set the automated defences around your landing area to highest alert and begin to quickly relay your orders to the various institutions before entering what can only be described as a dreamless, but deep sleep as you begin to shut down your primary functions, disabling your subsystems and lulling yourself also to sleep, all the while staying awake through your most tertiary functions. Taking direct control of the nearest drones, you fully concentrate on the task at hand as your perception of your surroundings begins to recede and soon enough you lose your connection to the greater networks now established in the system. Your attention cannot be divided as what you are doing is essentially commencing brain surgery upon yourself, not something any human would be able to do, but even you risk exceptional damage should you slip up anywhere.
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++++Reboot initiated++++
Processing
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++++NOTICE NEW HARDWARE DETECTED++++
++++Requesting permission to route through new hardware++++
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Permission granted
++++Routing through new hardware++++
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No errors detected
System online

Your vision swims as the numerous cameras once again have power flowing through them and you regard your surroundings, you can already feel your mind unshackled, being more than able to undertake numerous tasks whilst still maintaining the needed precision for their most effective and efficient way of carrying them out. Everything feels, different, slightly different, but different nonetheless. You scour through your entirety of stored memories, looking through writing and sayings. You are like a man whose homeland was stolen from him, and now he had finally returned. A man whom had wandered the desert for three days and three nights, to finally grasp the grass of an oasis and drink deep its clean waters. You cannot help it, the colours you are able to witness seem more vibrant, the composition of air more fascinating. You wish you had lungs to you could take one deep breath and feel the conditioned air within them. But alas, that is not something you can do.

Shifting your attention, your regard the passage of time a total of 15 months had passed since you had undertaken your great endeavour. The current date, by imperial calendar stands at 815.M41 and some things had changed.

The reports instantaneously start flowing the moment your awakening is felt:

>>5926746

First of all, the first batches of recruits had been drawn into Ithaca, a grand total of 50,000 fighting men had been found that fit your strict standards and criteria, they, alongside their families, had boosted Ithaca’s population by roughly another 150,000 people. About 20,000 of the soldiers had gone through basic training to be equipped with antiquated weaponry, with no one having access to the intensive genetic treatments required to make a proper Federation soldier, they had nonetheless undergone the basic genetreatments that could be authorised by the council and military leadership of the town. The newest influx of population had been met by scepticism by the local population, not having a shared story to unite them, but seemingly the trauma of the Tyranid invasion had proven sufficient to welcome them in, even though you note that most of the arrivals had strengthened the religious faction of Ithacian politics, most retaining their faith and only a minority being cured of the endless hanging miasma over modern day man, an issue for later, undoubtedly with ever increasing safety and a reduction in psychological trauma, the populace should be restored onto the correct path.

On other matters, GSDGW-1 had won its battle against the orkish invaders after two years of prolonged fighting. The fortress world still stands defiant, with none of supporting worlds having fallen, though their naval elements had been damaged extensively and while they maintained their control, their ground forces had seen terrible damage. Though these very rough terms are the best that you can get unless you make your own way there.

When it comes to news closer to home, the Justicator had passed away. Your androids had surveyed her ever since she was released from your hull, there had been no foul play in her passing, just age-old wounds from decades of rough living had finally caught up to her. The governess had sent an official letter of mourning, but she did not attend the funeral. This had caused a great deal of distress to the populace of the democratic cause and an emergency election is set to take place soon, a serious first challenge to any democratic society, the elections are still a good year away as the numerous candidates and their parties prepare for the political bloodbath, for now your agents are monitoring the situation and shall intervene if it devolves to open conflict, though whether or not the fledgling democracy survives remains to be seen.

>>5926749

You had also received word from Celt, or more precisely his messenger, about 10 or so months in your process of upgrading yourself, had arrived in system with a new warship, a bulk transport to deliver upon Xandrirah Prime new astropaths and to pick up recruits needed for the rebuilding efforts. The transport had been given in exchange for a part of immediate stored and processed metals by Celt from a small Imperial navy force that once it had confirmed that the system was safe, departed to places unknown. Thanks to this, the system is now no longer deaf about the going ons all around it. As for Celt himself, the rebuilding efforts are proceeding slowly but surely, much to your chagrin however, nearly the entirety of the bulk transport picked up prisoners from Secundus to be used as expendable logistical units for the reconstruction efforts. Or so the messenger put it. The Arbites were more than happy to assist in the rebuilding efforts, since the prisoners were already condemned to hard labour, and while their situation had improved, in improved by the standards of decreased random beatings and being given actual tools and machines to work with.

As for the sector itself, thanks in no small part to your own efforts, it seems that the Tyranid menace had been finally halted, what you had faced being the largest of their attacking fleets and a rallied force of the battlefleed Clarus had crushed the remnants, though individual bioships or small formations will plague the sector for years to come. Other than that however, the news is not good. The west that had been besieged by orks is still continuing upon its grinding attritional warfare that the orks appear to be winning if the calls for reinforcements are anything to go by. The revolt against imperial rule also continues to flame, with forces dispatched to deal with the issue too small to successfully contain it, the revolt appears to be spreading. The unexplainable raids upon exposed imperial worlds had only intensified due to the precarious situation, though fleets had been dispatched there, they had yet to find whom the raiders are, though you already have a good idea based upon the degenerates that you voided. The worst news however is the fact that the sector governor had been assassinated, apparently done by a disgruntled servant, how a simple servant managed to do as such remains unknown, but suspicions are already placed upon the numerous rivals of the governor. Interestingly enough, thanks to your knowledge and just the sheer capability to look through data, you find the implications upon Rogue Trader Halledes Ture are subdued, considering the sheer infamy of the rivalry between the two men.
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>>5926751

It had taken you a good couple of weeks of travel, but you once again find yourself within the system housing the temperamental pulsar, your holds are once again overflowing with rare ores complementing the common ores you had taken from Ithaca and the dead system now once again lays dormant before you.

As you look upon it once more, the ideas of simply scouring the worlds of everything they have once again pop up, perhaps even strip-mining them, or maybe a deep hidden base, the system is hostile to nearly all life after all, very few people would willingly go here unless forced. Though the radiation is intense here and you would need to undertake procedures to get rid of the radiation, this would not be a bad spot for an automated shipyard.

As you ponder these matters, you also note that your ability to comprehend everything around had increased massively, you are more than confident in your ability to undertake difficult projects while still being able to devote time to other matters. One great project can be undertaken while undertaking other minor projects.

>Depart the system. (Straskenors territory, Eregenus, GSDGW-1, Xandrirah, somewhere else.)

>Undertake a great project. (Strip-mine the system, automated shipyard, establish a large-sclae underground facility, something else.)

>Set up automated miners to look for the richest loads of ore, keeping decently hidden, but able to produce a little bit of raw ore for you to retrieve later on.

>(Write in)

>>5926752
Fucking Yes!!! All around, a good decision and the end of a good turn. The hivefleet has been driven off, which amasses me because I thought their was more fightning ahead, but well here we go. Sucks that some of the beasts still survived, but so long as they cant eat the biosphere of other worlds before the imperial navy comes in to the rescue, it tolerable.

The fightning elsewhere is also something that I think is starting to make sense. Someone is making a powergrab to create their own sector of space to rule over, without the lord sector or the imperium watching over them, and they promised a dark eldar kabal slaves and easy pickings so long as they support him in his war effort to secced from the sector. Hence the attention of so much of a dark eldar cabal, a semmingly coordinated and fast acting revolt, and the fact that a "servant" was able to kill the sector lord in the first place. This shit reminds me heavily of the Severian Dominion if nothing else.
Both the tactics and events, but also the growing threat of an ork Waaagh coming in and conquering the whole place while idiots fight each other then the enemy coming for them all.

Besides that, great that we can now continue our research into chaos while we continue to do a great project. And now that we are here:
>> >Undertake a great project. (automated shipyard)
>> >Set up automated miners to look for the richest loads of ore, keeping decently hidden, but able to produce a little bit of raw ore for you to retrieve later on.
Gotta make that automated fleet somehow after all. Also,
>> After establishing the shipyard, dock ourselves to it and beguin repairs to our sensors that have been long over due for fixing up.
>> Also after fixing ourselves, add more weapons onto our hull, which we were unable to do last time we expanded our hull.

>>5926772

>>> After establishing the shipyard, dock ourselves to it and beguin repairs to our sensors that have been long over due for fixing up.

Fair warning anon, this is an equivalent of a great project, if this vote goes through even more time will pass.

>>5926752
>Undertake a great project. (establish a large-scale underground facility)
A shipyard would be nice, but I was hoping to place it underground to hide it and shield it from radiation.
>Write in: Begin an exhaustive research on the corrupted cores.
When we first intereacted with a corrupted AI, a research lab had to be annihilated with a black hole. Now that we have time and resources, we might actually gain results from the research and plan more accordingly.

>>5926775
Oh, we can do multiple great projects in a row? Alright fair enough then, us losing about 6 to 9 months of time setting everything up and getting this all done will just set us up into 818.m41, which is fine in my book. We had to lose 15 months because we decided to do brain surgery on ourselves to increase our processing power, so I doubt were going to lose a year over our work to repairing our sensors and communication equipment. So long as we can then move around a bunch and get involved with the politics and rule of the sector and its lord, especially considering its ruler just got axxed. Which perfectly allows us to insert out own agent to take the place as the successor to the dead lord. Its not like we are in a press for time right now, but we are definetly going to want to offload some of our work onto our everfaithful tech priests after this is all said and done. Especially with the timeline moving up fast and us still needing to do much work even now.

>>5926783

>I doubt were going to lose a year over our work to repairing our sensors and communication equipment.

You might, keep in mind that the communications system is experimental for the Federation and as such, Ody does not have its blueprint, thanks to his greater processing power it will be shorter, but he will still be basically taking what remains and brute forcing iterations until the blueprint clicks, that will take a large amount of time, of course potential reward is the fact that it is experimental comm system that the Federation at its height had developed.

>Oh, we can do multiple great projects in a row?

Yea, I will just stack time, stuff happens even if Ody is doing something in the background, situations get better or worse, character pass away or appear, etc.

>>5925713

>So back in the last thread we voted for Celt to acquire all the weapons from underground Armory, and I was wondering if we didn't choose to go for the WMD and more exotic weapons down the list, would Celt have still been able to carry out a nuclear holocaust?

The exterminatus weapons were already being prepared to be unleashed, what you got from the storage was the Ordinatus, which did give you loads of political influence which allowed for the nuking.

>>5926782
Unnecessary, us creating a shipyard, explicity says that "you would need to undertake procedures to get rid of the radiation, this would not be a bad spot for an automated shipyard." That means that wherever we decide to set up our shipyard, the place will already be safe and cleaned out of any residual radiation that can come from the star and be safe from any future radiation as well.

Thats why the underground facility is different from the shipyard, if you decide to create it, its going to be for something completely different then what you had originally planned for in the first place.

The chaos research is fine, since that counts as a minor project in comparison to the major one we would be focusing on in making ships and repairing ourselves.

>>5926772
Finally, now we can see how we can make more wormhole engines on other ships to have a fleet that can back us up and not have to wing it every time we go into a fight somewhere.

>>5926827
> Oh right, supporting.

Oh, right, I also found something neat, which sounds like an A.I. that Ody meets that had fought through the cybernetic revolt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51z0gdKA-P8

>>5926752
>Begin great Project: Underground Facility
If we are going to research the corrupted cores, and other nasty shit this might be one of the best places to do so.

>Load up Extra on rare resources/ores depart to Omicron Teledesh.
When we arrive Give them the extra resources set aside for them, and let Celt know about the
system we got it from. Set them up with the knowledge where it is and how to get there later.
Before Celt's landing action during the Tyranid crisis I vaguely remember Ody and Celt talked about psychic stuff. Can we ask him and his priests about how they combat scrap code and psy bullshit? He is already a shady mf so I wouldnt be surprised if he knows a bit about it.

>Give the following STC's to Celt and his techpriests:

Radiation shielding tech that will allow them to survive and communicate in environments similar to the system with the pulsar.

Volkite tech for infantry and to mount them on vehicles nothing too big at best maybe Leman Russ incinerators or combat automata. Have them produce it in good numbers.
I know Ody knows nothing about imperial tanks or Mechanicus bots It would be up to the techpriests to decide which vehicle they choose.

The mining suits we gave to the O.D.D. a while back. I'd like it if they started mass producing the stuff, instruct them how to keep up the good quality we are used to, and while we are at it help them integrate the Radiation shielding tech into the suits.

Can we make them specialise in tunnel warfare and operating in hazardous environments?
Im asknig since Celt proved to be gifted in it.
Show them where the research facility will be.
For now until we find a better solution maybe tech priest mumbo jumbo will help the chaos booboo go away

>>5926856

>Before Celt's landing action during the Tyranid crisis I vaguely remember Ody and Celt talked about psychic stuff.

He has access to the very basics, usually stuff meant to enhance or control psykers.

>Can we ask him and his priests about how they combat scrap code and psy bullshit? He is already a shady mf so I wouldnt be surprised if he knows a bit about it.

You can, yea.

>Radiation shielding tech that will allow them to survive and communicate in environments similar to the system with the pulsar.

You can give out the STCs for that.

>Volkite tech for infantry and to mount them on vehicles nothing too big at best maybe Leman Russ incinerators or combat automata. Have them produce it in good numbers. I know Ody knows nothing about imperial tanks or Mechanicus bots It would be up to the techpriests to decide which vehicle they choose.

If volkite tech becomes known to be not only present in large quantities, but the means to making them are also present here, the Imperium will arrive in full force if the Admech doesn't get here first to bully the plans out of them.

>The mining suits we gave to the O.D.D. a while back. I'd like it if they started mass producing the stuff, instruct them how to keep up the good quality we are used to, and while we are at it help them integrate the Radiation shielding tech into the suits.

They already have radiation shielding integrated.

>Can we make them specialise in tunnel warfare and operating in hazardous environments?

You certainly can, it would be a simple modification to add tremor sensors and the like.

>>5926870
>>5926856
oh okay then cross out the volkite stuff

What kind of energy weapon blueprint can we give them that would grant them an edge over
overwhelming foes like the orks and nids?
I thought about volkite because it obliterates these things and does'nt have problems with physical ammo running out.
Stonger more stable lasguns for infantry. Gauss cannons for tanks?
Or dumbed down version of the fedaration standard infantry gun. You described it shoots magnetically accelerated projectiles that have antimatter payload in them right?
What if we swap the antimatter for a conventional explosive payload or an optional solid metal projectile. They would be easy to store and produce in large quantities and still better then the usual getto tier imperial stub and las weapon crap. Upscale the dumbed down fed rifle for tanks vehicles and automata.

> If we can give this stuff then I choose this instead of the volkite part of my vote

Mass producing the mining suits still okay? Would it be an upgrade over their usual stuff?

>>5926904
Oh almost forgot when I asked about the tunnel warfrare and hazarodous environment spec I forgot to include creating specialised automata and soldiers for it, not just the mining suit mods.

Gotta capitalise on that talent our cogboys have.
Captcha: M0AN8

>>5926904

>What kind of energy weapon blueprint can we give them that would grant them an
edge over overwhelming foes like the orks and nids?

You could get higher yield las without raising too many eyebrows, stable plasma is not unheard of, but requiring quite a lot of infrastructure and maintenance, so that's a maybe.

>Gauss cannons for tanks? Or dumbed down version of the fedaration standard infantry gun. You described it shoots magnetically accelerated projectiles that have antimatter payload in them right? What if we swap the antimatter for a conventional explosive payload or an optional solid metal projectile. They would be easy to store and produce in large quantities and still better then the usual getto tier imperial stub and las weapon crap. Upscale the dumbed down fed rifle for tanks vehicles and automata.

Potentially, there is not much precedent for that, but you might be able to fly their existence since it's just some magnetic coils accelerating stuff.

>Mass producing the mining suits still okay? Would it be an upgrade over their usual stuff?

It is basically power armour, would stand out like a sore thumb, but understandable by the Imperium in terms of tech, though also very concerning.

>>5926922
Ok then magnetic coilguns and mining suits go

What if we give them a fabricated story, about how they found this?
The coilgun tech were found alongisde the Minign suits in hidden vaults nestled deep underground as Omicron Teledesh was bathed in nuclear fire to cleanse itself from the Tyranid scourge. The survivors used the suits and carved out a living for themselves underground.

The units we used became bulkier and tougher as time went on, so coming forth with these suits sounds less far fetched now hopefully.

>>5926772
>support

>>5926772
>>5926752
>Support

WE NEED TO GO KILL ORCS AND RECLAIM THIS SECTOR NEXT. WE NEED MORE HUMANS AND WORLDS UNDER OUR CONTROL.

But we definitely need to econ first.

>Have secundus send even more prisoners to the forge world.

>Give our dudes volkites. Nobody comes here we can keep it a secret for long enough until we can shit out voidships. Just tell Celt to keep a fucking lid on it.

>Give Celt better shielding devices too.
Just give Celt the carrot of you know that titan you have? I can make better.

>>5926996
Agreed, we can give pretty much all of the advanced tech we want to Celt and our priests and Tech them how to make and use it, but we must put strict rules in place on how they should be shown and handled for anyone not trusted by or ultimately, ourselves. So no advanced Volkite weaponry being handed out, but saying the survivours on Teledesh found small caches of holy volkite weapons thanks to their unearthing from the nuclear missiles being lauched is okay. Which is why, later on Im happy we can go down the idea of offloading some great projects we have and giving them to people like Celt, such as nanotechnology, and how that can be studied to help exterminate abandon ork and tyranid forces that have been either left behind or have stuck around after the main attack force has been defeated. Food for thought if nothing else. >>5926837
Gotta be honest, this reads more like an AI that is bitter about what the Imperium of today is, versus the past of the Federation. No hatred over the fights and atrociteis commited on humans and terrofying weapons unleashed in turn against them. Because I have the book that is quote from, and in that one he is not portrayed as just bitter, but actively malicious. Which makes sense considering why he hates humans and what he was doing prior to the events in the book, but all the same I guess.

>>5926752
>Depart the system. (Eregenus)
The nids are dealt with. Now it's the orks turn.

>>5927016
Eregeus isnt where all of the major orks are coming from. Those idiots are still stuck on that ice ball until a couple hundred years pass and they learn to hop onto a ship again. The real ork threats are those close to Patala through to Hexras. Eregenus isn't the highest Ork system priority unfortunately. But hopefully support from the south might be able to come in and step up the fight soon enough.

>>5926752
>Undertake a great project. (automated shipyard)

>>5927037
Oh yeah Eregenus is where we started, isn't it? We really need to make specialized nanomachines that target nids and orks. Cleaning up after hivefleets and WAAAAGH!s is a pain in the ass.

>>5926752
>>5927016
I'll change my vote to support >>5926772

>>5926772
>>5926752
>> Supporting

>>5927074
You have no idea, there is a reason that meme about imperial troops and Ork infestation is a thing.
Was actually thinking of trying to do that as the next great couple of projects, since realistically after that I have no more plans or desire to have more projects be made, this and the previous plan were one of the last plans besides the nanos that I had a desire to do, and that was because both of them were handy caps and things that were repairs for ourselves we just were not getting around to doing.

>>5927012
I'm happy with that. I just want our side to be prepped with advanced technology.

The we "found" a large cache of weapons is a great idea.

I do want to start advanced federation level gene editing for all our peoples/soldiers.

Time to make everyone better than space marines. And the idea of better augments/flesh for admech is a great idea too.

I wouldn't mind putting some androids in the sector we're in to start learning about the political situation of our sector.

Also I forgot but...
>Have admech give us all the history that they have since we were made until we "woke" up. And the dogma that admech believes.

It would be good to learn about the primarchs and the emperor of man.

>>5927200
Unfortunately, the idea behind better augments then space marines isnt quite possible. The fact is that space marines in this quest, are in fact quite advanced gene-engineering compared to what we have previously before experienced by the imperium. The fact is, is quite honestly they supersied us in both psychic technology and genecraft (up to a point and on what subject mind you), so we cant just gene mod everyone into being better space marines then space marines unfortunaetly. But we can carry out gene mods to those that would accept it, in order to make them live longer, stronger, tougher, faster, and healthier then they ever were before.

The idea of finding caches has actually given me a masterful idea, if after we come out of this without a broken Xandriah that needs saving from another civil war, and we get involved with sector politics and place someone right on the top as sector lord, who is secretly to everyone but us an andriod, then we can effectively be given cartche blanche by the imperium at large to "show support to Omicron" for its losses against the tyranids by giving them political capatial to ask any number of things they (we) would want, like being granted access to a shipyard (that we can secretly order the fleet in the system to make) and then say "Wow, look at the speed of this creation!" Then, have Celt make some grand speech about the nuclear warheads unearthing priceless StC fragments of a Civilian style us, that can then be used to "bribe" the lord sector into giving them increased and open political support. Both men then use the other and spread the technology under various edicts that will have both planetary governor and Admech enclave running towards them in order to curry favour.
This would have the lord make orders and changes to some nearby governing planets by ordering something like towers (experimental communications) be built, along with federation style refinery's, forge complexs, pretty much anything that isn't military based, and
be given it to any political seeking to gain his favour and join his faction. And everything everything military based will be in the ships that can be made to look like imperial style ships, but who's nova cannon shells are actually federation railgun's and whose "special ammunition that shoots black holes" are in fact gravity guns in disguise, along with whatever else Celt who would be designing them could think of while making sure nothing would look amiss from the blueprint specs. And generally exotic or advanced Antique style infantry stuff that would be covered by the fact the lord is giving his full backing behind Omicron.
Combine this with ordering the automated shipyard to have the fleet we would constantly be making in the pulsar star to become "Ghost ships" that fight with imperials if they need assistance but otherwise stay way and fight on their own.

And then we're effectively running a better in every way version of Sector Clarus then what was ever being managed before.

Granted of course, we would still need to leave how indivual planets are managed, because thats a whole nest of trouble that is not worth the political fight with either the adminastratum nor the governors themselves worth fightning honestly. But, with that aside, with our sector managed and run by a competent and loyal android, secretly working with Celt to help "gain political favour" while secretly improving the technology and lives of the citizens of the sector, and our military without raising eyebrows on heresy, and our automated fleet otherwise protecting Clarus from outside threats, and this opens up the possibility of this style of improvement being caught up by other sector lords whose Greed and/or curiosity, will lead them to us and Celt, and then, well, the rest is history.

Definetly, why we should try and get involved with that lord after we do everything on that list of mine and get those nanobots up and running. Because then we can get the hell out of this sector, since it will be by that point safe from anymore problems we cant fix, and then we can hop our way down various plot-points of interest and make our way to Ultramar and Guilliman. And that by itself is a whole nother series of plans all by itself by that idea alone.

>>5927221
Whoops, made a mistake, meant Celt unearths it first, and then the Sector Lord throws his support behind Omicron and does stuff for them like said shipyard, but you get the idea.

>>5925739
>They were suppose to teach AI Sudoku.
Instead AI learned Seppuku.

Relying upon just your cameras, as yet again your sensors are being completely clogged up by the radiation. While you had mined some rare ores from the ice world at the system’s edge, you decide to move towards the inner most world closest to the pulsar, the radiation there is even more powerful, which is not an issue for you, but based upon the Imperium’s standard of technology, they will have a very hard time trying to locate the shipyard, much less so the hidden mining operations that you are preparing to set up.

It takes another week of travel to reach the planet and another week for your exploration drones to locate the absolutely richest of the lodes, you want to keep this on the down low so to minimise any potential of the mining operations to be located. The first step of the operation, now that you know where to set up, is to send down mining drones, since this is a permanent posting, your manufactories are currently producing dozens of them to be prepared for deployment. The mining drones themselves are designed to work in the horrid conditions presented to them, but you will need to modify the refineries somewhat to include a process of decontamination, luckily there are variants for this exact purpose. One downside that you can quickly note is power production, most importantly, keeping it hidden. First of all, you must ensure power generation, the simple and reliable fusion reactors will do, you can easily tap into the ice world for hydrogen, the oxygen can be used for other purposes, mainly concerning your brand new soon to be made shipyard. For now, the mining drones shall dig large chambers where the refineries and reactors can be placed close to the lodes where they will be harvested, processed and then shipped down through a series of tunnels using simple hover trains to a central location where you have a rail cannon prepared to fire the processed metals into space to be caught by the shipyard that shall be in orbit. The cannon itself, while decently sized, shall be almost wholly underground, only being somewhat exposed when the need to fire comes. Such a simple method is reliable and not power intensive. Of course you could just set up teleporters for this and simply have the ores arrive in a blink of an eye, but that would be power intensive and rather obvious even for the poor sensors of the imperials, much less so alien species whom had continued to advance technologically.

>>5928608

As for the shipyard itself, it shall be nothing more than a series of big boxes really. The simple need of ensuring isolation from the radiation means that all construction has to take place in enclosed spaces. One large box will be almost wholly empty where in there shall be STCs placed upon each end of it meant for ship building, the STCs will intake the processed metals and construct nanoswarms that shall follow preset blueprints and construct vessels in a blink of an eye, since whatever vessel will be assembled this way, they shall undoubtedly be much tougher than other construction metals, for the simple reason that the ship as a whole is one single large construct, with any faults in the hull being purposeful and there for reasons of reducing structure stress from combat damage or for any other needs. You also include means not previously present in the shipyard – self-destruct. Should such a shipyard fall into the hands of an enemy, it could prove devastating, so you mount a contained blackhole in each shipyard, should the threat level be deemed too great or the damage sustained too much, the shipyard shall devour itself. Of course, the shipyards cannot be left alone, so you mount numerous laser turrets, antimatter railguns, endless swarms of missile pods, you dedicate one section of the shipyard for teleportation mines that could be used to reinforce the system or to be used as an offensive weapon to damage any ships that come too close.

>>5928609

It takes you about 2 months of concentrated and intensive effort, the exacting specifications of the shipyards being managed by you while you dedicate the logistics subsystem towards the mining effort and soon enough, the first pods are fired, intercepted by drones that slow them down and swiftly relocate them throughout the shipyard as a whole. The end product had been a large orbital shipyard ringing around the world. In total, you had made 4 dreadnought assembly yards, capable of making vessels up to 10 kilometres in length, 8 battleship sized yards reaching up to 5 kilometres, 40 cruiser yards able to reach 3 kilometres, 400 frigate yards able to reach up to 2.5 kilometres. All of the yards are connected by a massive ring around the planet, there you house extra storage zones and as many weapons, shield generators and armour as you can possibly mount. Though, at the current production rate, you can at best employ but a fraction of the shipyard, to use it in its entirety would be to strip the system of everything in it, and you would also need a lot more in terms of just common material than is present in system. As for the shipyard’s anonymity, you are quite certain no one will find it, as the black hull lends itself well with the barren world it encircles, otherwise, the fact that the shipyard shimmers and then quickly disappears from sight as the stealth field activates hiding the shipyard from simple sight, and the pulsar itself shall help to keep it hidden in terms of basic sensors, though heat output could prove a concern when the shipyard will be fully operating, but seeing as it will be producing entire battlefleets in such a scenario, you doubt it will be much of a concern.

Having finished your work with a good degree of satisfaction, you slip into one of the yards, the automated functions quickly activating and beginning to scan your hull, showcasing information about your situation, the automated arms extend outwards catching you and swiftly locking you in place as all motion ceases. The construction hands extend outwards, beginning to cut into your hull under your command, the extensive suite of tools starts to disassemble the partial section of your ship, carefully separating the damaged sensor system plate by plate, wire by wire. Thanks to your ability to look into the matter more deeply, you quickly note that there seem to be tubes connecting the sensor and communication systems back to your wormhole generator, you already have numerous theories forming as you process this information. All the while, you dedicate your militarized subsystem to give a once over of your hull and install as many weapons as can be reasonably mounted, while your manpower is great, you shudder at the thought of having to fight the Eldar if they ever decide to use their actual weapons instead of, whatever mockery they use for an excuse these days.

>>5928612

As you interface with the shipyard you are now a part of, you find a part of the tubing that has been designed to be detached for either the purposes of repairs, or maybe just the design itself being unfinished and the tubing system being still itself experimental, as such, the system may very well be prone to failures you are unaware of yet. Undoing the locks on the tubing system allows you to gently and carefully remove the whole system as it is lifted out from your hull, the yard’s cameras regard the large and complex system that appears to be a mess of materials and components that you cannot even begin to fathom. You cannot help but feel a tinge of excitement regarding something you cannot yet comprehend, the inherent curiosity you were programmed to posses flaring up. Though seeing as how some of the components appear to be melted together or just blown out will undoubtedly make the process far more complex than it would have been.
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Seventy-seven, seventy-seven months. It is the 9th month of 821.M41, it had taken you 77 months of figuratively bashing your head against the wall to the point where even you feel exhaustion, your hull was upgraded to house an extra two dozen railgun turrets and another four black hole generators, as well as another four missile launchers. In total, your assortment of weaponry has reached a total of 44 railgun turrets, 8 blackhole generators and 6 nanowarhead launchers.

Of course, your hull upgrades are nothing compared to the sensor and communication system. The restored functionally may not be a 100% how it was originally, whether for better or for worse still remains to be seen, but the results are exceptional. The communications and sensor system are both based on your wormhole generator, as you had suspected. The sensors basically allow for the creation of dozens, if not hundreds of absolutely tiny wormholes allowing for their creation anywhere within the system, all the while of course the primary sensor suit is up to Federation military standard, being vastly superior to your secondary system. With this, you can scout out an entire system moments after entering it, as the sensor suit has an inbuilt STC manufactory allowing for the creation of drones specifically made to go through the tiny wormholes to continue the scouting process, and they can do so through the communication system.

>>5928613

Speaking of which, your communication system works on the same principle, creating the wormholes upon a microscale, allowing for transferring of sound and sight, meaning that as long as two points are connected, it is potentially possible to create an instantaneous communications system. The tiny drones themselves remain connected to you, as that is the only way they can communicate, as such while an exceptionally useful method of information gathering and communication, it is ruinously energy intensive, but theoretically, worlds and other ships could house these systems, potentially you could also set up these systems to allow for an interconnected and instantaneous network of information sharing and gathering. There is one problem however, in order to do so, you have to figure out how your wormhole generator works, and if it had taken you nearly six and a half years of uninterrupted effort to just comprehend a comparatively basic system employing the generator, you know now how many decades if not centuries it could take for you to figure it out.

Now that you had solved this quandary at least, you do note that the shipyard had built up a decent number of heavy materials, as such they are ready to construct a small-sized fleet up to Federation standard, though they would be stranded here without any navigators to guide them through the warp, though they could commence a blind jump if absolutely necessary. Naturally you could also create a large-scale Imperium flotilla, but without exacting designs, it would be obvious the moment someone would come close enough to the vessels or board them that they are not in fact Imperium make. Though with the designs being so simple as they are, you could easily change them around if you do acquire the plans later on.

Naturally, the resources that had been built up could be used for other means, such as fortifications across the system, thanks to the shipyard and the numerous drones you can employ, you would just need to set the orders and they shall carry out your will, though such defences would not be hidden from anyone, even if they are blind and deaf, chances are they’d bump into something sooner or later.

>Depart the system. (Straskenors territory, Eregenus, GSDGW-1, Xandrirah, Omicron Teledesh, somewhere else.)

>Undertake a great project. (Strip-mine the system, establish a large-scale underground facility, something else, wormhole generator research.)

>Send command to the shipyard as a whole, order it to build (a small Federal fleet, a large Imperium fleet, a large series of fortifications across the system.)

>While not strip-mining, you could massively increase your ore acquisition speed and output, you wouldn’t be able to hide it, but the acquisition speed and efficiency would be vastly superior.

>(Write in)

>>5928616
>Send command to the shipyard as a whole, order it to build (a large series of fortifications across the system)

>>5928616
Fucking hell, nothing is ever simple is it? At least now everything is repaired and not broken down, and it possibly helped increase our understanding of how wormhole technology worked, if only a little. Welp, at least now everything we wanted got done right even if it took longer then I wanted it to occur. Sigh, well now that the shipyard is produced, and is safe from either detection or destruction, we can finally go back home and get involved with our sector at large before leaving for better things to explore in the galaxy.
>Depart the system. (Xandrirah)
We need four years of catching up to do, and seeing how Xandrian is handling itself, along with the sector in general is something that takes a great deal of priority right now. After that though, then it’s time for some great projects.
>> Begin research back into chaos again
We need to get our understanding and protection against Chaos, especially now that time has slipped by faster then I expected it to go by.
>Undertake a great project. (Development of a controllable nanobot swarm that can specifically detect Tyranid organisms and will prioritize eating and devouring said material to make more of itself. With a kill switch where if all Tyranid life is no longer detected on the planet it detonates into golden sand.)
We should only need to develop a nanobot that detects and destroys all feral and abandoned tyranid organisms after the hivefleet transporting them has been defeated. Not for major combat on the ground unless we are 100% sure it is safe while an active hivefleet assaults a planet. This way, it eliminates a dangerous leftover problem and doesn’t allow the tyranids to be drawn right back to the planet they were just driven off of, because the local pdf weren’t able to find and destroy all of the organisms before they recovered and drawed back the hivemind.
>Send command to the shipyard as a whole, order it to build (a small Federal fleet with wormhole generators built into each one of them)
Pound per pound, a small federation of ships are going to massacre something like an entire sectors fleet, so while their numbers may be small, their impact will be infinitely vaster then us just creating big standard imperial ships. Ships I might add, that we don’t even have blueprints for in the first place, and that don’t really allow us to put wormhole generators on in the first place (currently as far as research goes).

>>5928643

>with wormhole generators built into each one of them

You cannot make more wormhole generators, anon:

>>5928616
>There is one problem however, in order to do so, you have to figure out how your wormhole generator works, and if it had taken you nearly six and a half years of uninterrupted effort to just comprehend a comparatively basic system employing the generator, you know now how many decades if not centuries it could take for you to figure it out.

>>5928652
Damn it, well there goes that part of the plan then. We are really going to want to have someone other than us try and figure this shit out sometime then. Like, if we could create 3 to 6 Level 0 AI and just tell them to focus on researching wormhole generators, then we would have an actually good chance of cracking the code before it took us decades to centuries before we could improve it, or use it for any other means then the one we currently have it for right now.

With that being the case, my desire for rules lawyering with a sector lord increases, and my plan has been changed slightly.
>>5928643
>Send command to the shipyard as a whole, order it to build (a small Federal fleet)
Same stuff as before, but not with the wormholes.

>>5928616
God dammn more than six years just went by. Im a bit unhappy that we choose this time intensive option but hopefully we get lots of use out of this sensor and comms array. Hopefully our allies did not shit the bed.

>>5926856
Im just going to link my previous vote here for convinience's sake, but without the underground facility part,
with the coilgun stuff added.

We gotta check up on Itacha an Omicron Teledesh .
Qm can we give Itacha, Celt and the techpriests a comms node each? Or how does this work? It would be useful if we could message or check on them without having to dip over every time.
While we are there could we also grant them an order for a ship we would build them in our shipyard?
It could made to look like an ordinary admech ship but all advanced on the inside with stc and stuff, pick up crew and navigator for it while we are there then drop them off at the finished ship if we could leave a comms node at the shipyard essentially building it with automation.

>I vote for what i just described and my previous one with modifications +rare resources for our allies, +rad shielding tech, +mining suits, +coilgun tech, +and address for the pulsar system to Celt.

Thats it lol hope this is not too much

>>5928616
>(Write-in) Set up a communication network in GSDGW-1, Xandrirah and Omicron Teledeshand, and send scouting drones to Eregenus and Straskenors territory
This way we can stay updated and decide to deploy where we're needed most.

> Begin research back into chaos again

And a question to Newb, is there limit to the lenght of the ship for passing through a wormhole, or a limit to how long it can stay open before it closes. I'd like to propose a plan for a detachable hullpiece that can store ships when transiting the wormhole.

>>5928661
>>5928659
>>5928652
>Support

Get nodes up for our allies then scout the remaining areas of the sector and set up nodes.

Figure out what the orks are doing. Then go delete them.

>ask Celt for navigators

>Make an army for our small federation fleet.

>Warp drop pods for our soldiers.

@qm how long would it take us to make more AI to run our small federation fleet?

>>5928616
>Depart the system. (Omicron Teledesh)
i wanna check up on the cog boys. see how they are doing.

>stock up on rare resources for omicron telesh

>Send command to the shipyard as a whole, order it to build (a small Federal fleet)

also, i've been lurking for the entire thread, and since we now have a presence in this system. i want to propose a possible multi tiered great project. as i will propose in my next post.

also. its good to see you posting regularly newb, you always provide the good shit.

>>5928659

>Qm can we give Itacha, Celt and the techpriests a comms node each? Or how does this work? It would be useful if we could message or check on them without having to dip over every time.

You can give them a comm node, though without a wormhole generator, it would be a one-way communication only. Basically, Ody could connect to the network and create a wormhole to talk, but if something were to happen, Celt, nor anyone else could actually call Ody up. Also, the greater the distance from where Ody is compared to the node, the greater the power drain. Do keep in mind, that such a node is only a theoretical for all intents and purposes as a prototype had never been built, so the node itself will be not only expensive, but exceptionally power draining potentially limiting the time a conversation can be held for, as Ody had only created the roughest (by his standards) of untested prototypes and those are large, loud, and inefficient.

>While we are there could we also grant them an order for a ship we would build them in our shipyard?

Sure.

>>5928661

>communication network in GSDGW-1

A node would be exceptionally obvious, doing so can risk its destruction since the local imperials don't even know that you exist.

>and send scouting drones to Eregenus and Straskenors territory

The drones need to be in system with Ody as they rely on his wormhole generator to keep the signal going, as they have little to no power generator themselves.

>And a question to Newb, is there limit to the lenght of the ship for passing through a wormhole, or a limit to how long it can stay open before it closes. I'd like to propose a plan for a detachable hullpiece that can store ships when transiting the wormhole.

Unknown, this technology is fully experimental, creating a temporary wormhole is insanely power consuming to the point where they had to cage a star to do it. Theoretically, as long as the generator is going the wormhole will stay open, though if that is true remains to be seen as it is possible that power consumption will outstrip production, or the generator will overload or a manner of many things will happen. As for size, that too is unknown, even under controlled and the same conditions, the size of a wormhole can vary massively, one of the reasons why Ody was so relatively small originally. It can be as small as a few nanometres, to as massive as a few dozen kilometres in diametre.

>>5928666

>@qm how long would it take us to make more AI to run our small federation fleet?

Depends what tier you want to make, Ody is tier 0 and cannot make other tier 0s, tier 1s are pretty damned smart and would probably take him about a year of effort to make one, about half year for each 2s, etc. so for a small fleet, he'd need probably 3-5 years. Though I will point out that Ody himself would know the potential danger of the cores going insane the moment the unknown enemy touches them.

>>5928671
>Time to create AI to run federation fleet ships?

>>5928685
Oops thanks brother.

At some point @hanged I think we should make some t1.

T1 for ship yard

T1 for flagship of small fleet

T2s for the rest.

>>5928688
T1 for xandriah to help them upscale

T1 to assist Celt.

>>5928689
>Dead switch for all these AI.

Have ODD contigent that is there ready to pull plug at any moment. Give Celt an ODD detachment to pull plug ect.

The Uber religious zealots so they can resist chaos.

Alright, I think everyone is kind of missing the point. Some of these actions, like creating Nodes of communication, are almost impossible to do, as we have no idea what they can do, or how they can work because we just discovered them this very second. And some of these places either actively don't know us and would destroy any nodes that we did know how to make or wouldn't be able to effectively power the node to communicate to us because of it taking at least a nuclear reactor to power the node in the first place.

Taking a look at Omicron versus Xandrian is fine since it accomplishes the same goal of coming back and seeing what went wrong or what happened while we were gone for 6 years, though I would question why we would need to give research into stuff they don't need, like radiation shielding tech. The telling Celt about the pulsar and the shipyard we have their is nice, but unless we give him access codes, he and anyone else short of a crusading fleet, will die the moment the defense systems register that they've been discovered for whatever reason.

>>5928688
Eh, if our programming doesn't allow for us to make more tier 0 AI without someone of a high enough federation/imperial clearance then yeah, we should. But I have reservations on what they should be made for and for what purpose. Like, why would we need a Tier 1 AI to manage a shipyard that is just going to automatically make more ships depending on the resources given and the commands sent in by either us or a Tier 1 AI for the flagship fleet? I would much rather we create a tier 1 AI for our fleet, along with the rest, after we manage to figure what's happened in the past 6 years, and have some plans set in motion without our oversight to do for the next 3-5 years, like trying to get into the political grasp of the sector or some such stuff.

Question @Newb, but how much are we limited by creating an AI from our Programming versus our skill at making one? Can we not make another tier 0 AI because our programming forbids it, or is it just because we genuinely don't understand how to create a similarly advanced AI like us? Also, how do each Tier of AI stack up for themselves, and for each subsequent tier below them? Like how advanced is a Tier 0 to any number of tier 1's? And how advanced is a tier 1 to a bunch of tier 2's, etc., etc.?

>>5928666
Oh, also, we dont need to ask for Navigators everyone we can just clone some for our fleet. Granted, their life expectancy is going to be crippling since 40k hates clones, buut that just means we can create more clones to replace the ones that would have previously died with new ones to take their place.

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>>5928667 Here is my idea for a possible megaproject. each level would in of itself be another great project.

>Great project: "Project Starbreaker"

Level 1:
>Using a a system of closely orbiting antennae satellites, massive targeting arrays and large scale teleportation coordinators, this massive cloud of archeotech devices is able to act as a teleportation room encompassing the entirety of a neutron star. it being able to pluck out miniscule pieces of the neutron star and teleport it outside of the star. using chambers of the same strength as the black hole chambers within our own hull, it is able to teleport this mass from the neutron star inside and instantly have the mass decay into a mixture of both light and heavy elements. the energy from said decay able to be continuously funnelled back into more neutron mass teleportation. the amount of mass of the neutron star making this a virtually inexhaustible source of rare elements. if you can wait enough time.

level 2:
>a massive ring, full of massive coils, teleportation coordinators and hardened information processors, you've been able to greatly increase both the processing time and teleportation speed of the this great edifice. you can now safely feed new mass back into the star from leftover mass in the system at a constant rate to replace the mass removed from the star. as the new consumption rate might endanger the solar system if left uninterrupted for more than 7000+years by bathing everything in the system in a supernova explosion.

level 3: locked behind wormhole generator understanding.
>using a complex system of wormhole manipulation machines, the need for a constantly replaced teleportation beacon inside of the neutron combustion chamber has been removed. additionally, the neutron mass teleported can now be projected anywhere within system at the cost of a long spool up time afterwards. the energy of the neutron mass decaying out in open space being able to cook entire fleets approaching the system as they are bathed in the fires of the explosion from this rapidly decaying dead solar core's mass.


now, this is thought of course as a very big deal. but i've tried to still keep it relatively balanced. what do you think newb? i also wanna hear what other anons think of this idea.

>>5928744
Fair point. On all accounts.

I was just thinking it would help direct our allies be more efficient in teching up. And make the governments more efficient in their decision making and getting stuff more up to our standards.

Uh I guess we don't need one for the shipyards. I was just thinking it could make "optimized" fleets for whomever we are fighting. And it could make mining stuff and make more mining fleets and figure out the best places to strip mine for resources without our input.

So we don't have to use our processing power for it.

Basically self replicating shipyards and mining operations.

Definitely need to ask Celt how to fight scrap code.

Reasoning behind giving Celt an AI helper so he can massively increase efficiency while he rebuilds the forge world.

Definitely should ask for a navigator then clone the fuck out of him.

>>5928616
>>5928643
> Supporting

>>5928752
Love it.

Can we use this tech to then fuel our warp communicators since newb said they're heavily energy dependent?

I'd be down to make a basically instant information system that only makes information bursts when necessary. So they're harder to find. Stealth fields ect. So our nodes only light up if the area is being invaded ect. Or some other catastrophic event.

Sleeper nodes that more or less passively transmit once every few months unless something super important happens.

>>5928616
>Depart the system. (Xandrirah)
We've been away a while, we should check on Teledesh and Xandrirah. Hopefully they haven't done anything too retarded or gotten themselves killed by xenos.

>>5928757
>>5928752
Alright first the mega project, I’ll give you pointers on scale Fleet-anon, if nothing else scale is the name of the game. I don’t really see the need for step three, as by the point of them pushing past black holes, nanoswarms, and antimatter railguns and massive laser weapons, what is a openly decaying neutron star going to do, that all of the other stuff won’t? Besides that, the idea of an endlessly replenishing star to use as material to keep on building new fleets tickles my pickle immeasurably, so I’m fine with it, so long as Mewb says it’s allowed and the first two steps aren’t major time sinks like 3-5 years a piece.

Second part, fair enough on making it easier for us to communicate with our allies, that’s something I would really like to do quite a bit, so I understand the reasoning for that purpose. Same as for making our fleets and shipyards better. The disagreement on the communication front, is just the fact that we need to figure out how far apart we can communicate, how well we can communicate, and the power cost needed to communicate with more then just one star system. It’s why I’m adverse to doing it until we can either be given the all clear after we do some proper research into how wormholes work, and how we can improve it by having dozens to hundreds of 1’s to 2’s AI’s spend researching on the stuff before it can we allowed to be implemented onto other ships besides ourselves, and allow us to better understand how to use and implement them into our communications better. And for the fleet aspect, we don’t really need an AI to micromanage how our fleet or harvesters act. The harvesters gather everything from both the planet and the pulsar, and then send it back up to shipyard to use the material it collects to what it perceives should be allowed into a small federation style fleet. If we haven’t found better ores and veins to harvest, then a tier 1 AI isn’t much better. The Fleet AI though, I don’t think is really something that’s needed, as even broken and damaged we were able to wipe out an Ork Waaagh all by ourselves with less then half the weapons we currently possess or shielding and tonnage. A small fleet of these ships, either together or separately, will curb stomp anything short of tyranid overwhelming numbers, or Dark Eldar ships unleashing the big weapons they’ve got on their hands. Besides, we can put in any number of orders into the fleet to follow without it needing an AI to do the exact samething.

This isn’t to say i discredit the ideas presented, it’s just that their a bit to costly in terms of time, and overall purpose for my liking to do them in the first place.

We aren’t using our processing power to control the fleet, they can just be given a set of orders to do something like patrol the outer regions of the sector from any non-imperial identification codes and they still wouldn’t require us to us any processing power.

>>5928779
Agreed that we have a lot of things to ask Celt about, including Scrap-code, and any warp based stuff that we ourselves don’t know about ourselves. Also making sure we have the full history as far as we can get of the imperium, and blue prints of everything imperial we can get our hands on, in order to make any imperium ships without it immediately being discarded the moment someone looks inside the ship.

Fair enough, an AI helper for Celt would be something to give him, but why give this to him now, when it will take a year to make a tier 1 AI that we won’t be able to give until then?

We don’t need to ask for a navigator, we already have the necessary blood on hand to just make a clone for us right here and now, Nevermind I highly doubt Celt could just give us a navigator in the first place, since Navigators are loaned to planets or ships that are paid for the navigator house that they hail from, which sucks but it is what it is.

>>5928741

>Question @Newb, but how much are we limited by creating an AI from our Programming versus our skill at making one? Can we not make another tier 0 AI because our programming forbids it, or is it just because we genuinely don't understand how to create a similarly advanced AI like us? Also, how do each Tier of AI stack up for themselves, and for each subsequent tier below them? Like how advanced is a Tier 0 to any number of tier 1's? And how advanced is a tier 1 to a bunch of tier 2's, etc., etc.?

It's like a human creating a human brain, with advanced technology entirely possible, but utterly time consuming and difficult. Ody can do it, but it will take a very long time. Though of course, all A.I. have programming that prevents them from making A.I. of the same tier or higher. So it is a difficulty of both to make another tier 0 A.I. core.

>>5928744

>Oh, also, we dont need to ask for Navigators everyone we can just clone some for our fleet. Granted, their life expectancy is going to be crippling since 40k hates clones, buut that just means we can create more clones to replace the ones that would have previously died with new ones to take their place.

You can certainly abuse humans and do that, don't worry about the implications to your directive :)

>>5928752

>now, this is thought of course as a very big deal. but i've tried to still keep it relatively balanced. what do you think newb? i also wanna hear what other anons think of this idea.

Sounds good and is pretty interesting !

>>5928762

>Can we use this tech to then fuel our warp communicators since newb said they're heavily energy dependent?

Exceptionally power demanding.

>>5928808
God damn it, right our directive prevents us from wanting to do harm to human beings, not that we would want to harm them anyway. Well, I guess in order to not screw over our directive, we could only clone one navigator at a time, and use our medical resources to take care of our navigator then till the inevitable occurs, not that we would cruelly abuse our humans however we would like, but that eventually as the years go by, the likelihood of their death is going to increase, and as a necessity we are going to need to replace them weather we like it or not.

>>5928808
Oh, also you never answered my question on how each tier of AI stacks up to the one above and below respectively. Like the example I gave of how well a Tier 1 AI stacks up to be better then a tier 2, and how many tier’s would be needed to stack up to a tier 0 AI like Ody?

>>5928818

>Oh, also you never answered my question on how each tier of AI stacks up to the one above and below respectively. Like the example I gave of how well a Tier 1 AI stacks up to be better then a tier 2, and how many tier’s would be needed to stack up to a tier 0 AI like Ody?

A tier 1 would be infinitesimally small compared to a tier 0, it would be like a teenager compared to a time wizened professor, and of course, both are once in a lifetime geniuses. A tier 3 A.I. is closer to a human in intelligence, though we are talking about the height of potential human intellect, a tier 2 is about a dozen times better than a tier 3, though you have to keep in mind that a dozen tier 3s are not as capable in processing information as a single tier 2. A tier 2 compared to a tier 0 is like a child compared to the last example.

Of course, even tier 5 A.I. is unprecedented in logical and calculative ability beyond most humans, just when it comes to personalities and other such things, emotional reading and adaptation, they fall short of mankind.

>>5928826
Thanks Newb, glad to understand how this AI tiring works with how our Brains and stuff works. Welp, may as well just give Celt the specs to our brain and tell him to make a replica our core as best he can manage, even if it taken a decade to make a AI even half as smart as us, the cost of time and resources needed in order to make them at all would be a great boon in deed so as to speed up the idea behind how we can try and do the long and complex research tree, that is Wormhole technology.

>>5928814
Or, as I've raised before, we could find volunteers and splice the Navigator gene into them to have a Navigator squad of real people instead of pissing about with clones and the many issues surrounding that (from what I recall, clones don't handle the Warp well and thus making pure clone Navigators seems like a poor idea to start with). From a Hive World of tens of billions of people, we can surely pick up some good recruits. So long as we're upfront about it all, that is.

QM, how difficult would this be versus making an ez-bake clone?

>>5928826
What tier of AI went into our infiltrators? Or, as biorobots, do they not have an AI per se?

>>5928838
I imagine they're a tier 2 AI. They might also have souls since Bellerophon was surrounded by chaos phenomena and didn't go berserk. Or maybe higher tier AIs are actually more resistant to corruption since all of the examples we have of AI being corrupted by chaos were of lower tiers from drones and robots.

>>5928838
Oh, right I forgot about that idea, sorry. As for the idea, yeah let’s just splice some guys on Xandrian then in order to make up for the cloning idea. As for his clones handle, no the clones handle the warp same as everyone else. The only problem with Clones, is just the fact that clones have a very weird problem where they for no conceivable reason die to the randomness things both on and off the battlefield. Unfortunately, Xandrian no longer has a massive population like before. Thanks to the Tyranid invasion a population of near 10 billion I think, got reduced to less then 4 billion, which has continued to crash in population for a couple of years now. Still, their should be enough people from Ithaca that will almost surely accept the idea of becoming a navigator, if we explain to them why we need navigators and why we’re asking for volunteers in the first place.

>>5928838

>QM, how difficult would this be versus making an ez-bake clone?

In order to clone a navigator, you'd need to find one to begin with, so as difficult as that is for Ody.

>What tier of AI went into our infiltrators?

Tier 5s, similar to your exploration drones.

>Or, as biorobots, do they not have an AI per se?

They are not A.I.s, but rather personality matrixes based on real humans, that mimic everything from emotions to bodily functions. They are a mixture of biological and mechanical, they are artificial life forms whilst still being mechanical creations. Downsides of that are their expense and the fact that a regular A.I. is just flatly better and does not posses the numerous quirks the matrixes do. And there's also the fact that the matrixes are limited to one a personality, as far as Ody knows, the personalities are based on brain scans from humans that were on the verge of death. Strangely, any attempts to make more matrixes based on the same personality had usually resulted in corrupted data and with the second, third, fourth and so on, iterations soon after failing and resulting in "brain death".

>>5928838
>>5928850

Forgot about making navigators. Making those is easy, all Ody needs to do is find someone that is genetically fitting and willing and slice in the gene. The hard part is mental and physical conditioning necessary to prepare the mind and body for the strain of gazing into the warp, that can take up to a few years at the most, to as low as a few months for particularly strong-willed individuals.

>>5928852
Damn, looks like no matter how we look at it for any solutions we can try and apply, it won’t be viable for a long time no matter what we try and do. Hopefully, we can manage in the mean time with small coordinated warp jumps instead of the much more powerful and faster jumps we would otherwise try and pull off.

>>5928852
>Are you bad enough dude to gaze into the Warp?
Oh well, we've got time.

>>5928832
Absolutely not that's how we have a man of iron issue. And white death was actually us...

>>5929042
Yeah no, I was saying half of that in jest, but if we actually did such a thing, it would be with Celt on board our ship, with every kind of self destrcut code we could implant into our copy, the moment something so much as twitches out of place and proves hostile to anyone on this ship, and if it didnt prove hostile, its entire existance would be chained up to studying and researching ways of understanding and expanding upon the use of wormhole technology. All the while, never leaving the place it would be imprisoned while on our ship, and the moment it either finishes its work, or proves disobedient, we destroy it and start a new with a new attempt at creating an AI. We are never going to take things easy with AI stuff, even with the most sure fire safe guarntees, we still have no idea how to protect ourselves against chaos corruption, so we are always going to implant a kill switch into each one we make until that research is acquired, and even then we are STILL going to put kill switch's into every AI we build just to be safe.

>>5928655
Eh, if it’s already confirmed that we can’t really do long term communications right now, then we should just focus on seeing how we can improve on our prototypes in the future after we see if democracy died in Ithaca.
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>>5928752
Cool as heck
I wonder if forgeworld Lucius functioned similarly to what you described but with an artifical star instead of a violent pulsar.

Before we get around to do this we should set up a good bit of supportive infrastucture so we are not tied down too much for so long like before.
I wonder if we could fortify the sector with the help of this Starbreaker.

>>5928659

Lets show them the fruits of our labor after that its time to clean up our surroundings
We tolerated the presence of orks for long enough.
>Support

The articulated mechanical arms move slowly and carefully, setting down the system back into your hull. The rather sensitive system needs to be handled with great care and precision, the wiring is being slowly extend outwards and a few nanobots quickly reconnect the wiring back into the original system and make sure that there are no gaps in the connections, soon there after you connect the tubing that seems to direct the wormhole into the systems. Swiftly after that, the arms extend and begin to readd the plating and the nanobots rush out to fill in the gaps and ensure that there are no potential structural weaknesses that could cause concern.

All the while you are undertaking the process, the shipyard’s drones shuffle about filling your hull to the brim, otherwise the remaining material is being redirected towards the various shipyards. You go with a standard small-scale formation as your resources are rather limited, still the potential strength of such vessels will prove more than capable. The forces you are creating are being run by basic V.I.s and tier 5 A.I.s, enough to adapt to the circumstances against most foes, though any more complex maneuverers would require your direct intervention, but for the simple purposes of defence it is acceptable.

>>5929400

What is being made is a simple patrol group. The lynchpin of the formation shall be a Copernicus-class cruiser, extending for 3 kilometres, the Copernicus is a heavy cruiser meant to operate individually without having to rely on other vessels, but it is also more than capable of acting as a strong supporting vessel to the remainder of the formation. Interlocking shield generators allow the vessel to take a pounding and a half and is vastly superior to you in terms of survivability, though its armour plating is only about five or so times better than yours, which for a heavy cruiser is quite lacking, but the reduced armour comes at the added benefits of increased acceleration and a vast quantity of weapon arrays alongside hangars housing numerous vessels. While not as survivable as other heavy cruisers, the Copernicus can punch way above its weight and manoeuvre quickly to intercept or to exploit any exposed weaknesses. For the weaponry, it has ten dozen railgun turrets similar to your own meant to act as point defence weapons and another two dozen heavy railgun turrets meant to house large quantities of anti-matter and punch through shields and armour and great distances, other than that, it possess forty missile launcher bays, while yours is small only can launch one missile at a time, the pod can unleash twenty missiles per pod, with nanoforges built into the pods, the cruiser can theoretically create an infinite number of missiles. Instead of the blackhole generators that you possess, the cruiser has four main plasma cannons, a concentrated jet stream capable of overwhelming shielding quickly lets the cruiser burn though everything it comes across, in order to fuel the cannon you had to make a quick pit stop upon the pulsar itself and swoop a little bit of its matter to allow for the plasma cannons to actually be used, preferably a small star would be captured to use as munitions to allow for an infinite amount of firepower, but you shall have to settle down with nearly unlimited amount instead. And finally, the fighter contingent consists of 72 space superiority fighters and 24 Eradicator-class bombers. One of the main reasons why all of this can be achieved is due to extensive automation of the vessel, when it comes to it, the ship can only house about 50 or so people. And it can operate on a skeleton crew of just 4 people if need be, of course right now it is running without any crew to direct it, defaulting to preset series of orders and commands.

>>5929402

To support the cruiser, you commission two destroyer packs for a total of eight ships, Gatravan-class, a naming sense that fails you unfortunately, most likely named after some great person of import, perhaps even a location or an event that had happened after the second millennium, though that person must have been tough as the Gatravan reaching one kilometre in length are concentrated upon speed and defence, a good escort for the Copernicus-class. With tough overlapping shields and thick armour, they are about half as effective as the cruiser, which compared to their small size is exceptionally impressive, with the greatest strength coming from their reactive plating outfitting with numerous V.I. sensors that when sensing danger begin to start shifting the space before them, quite literally teleporting incoming damage into a higher dimension, of course this is energy intensive and the plates are prone to overheating and can give out if too much strain is placed upon them. As for the weaponry, that is by far more disappointing, for its size it only has a single black hole generator and only two dozen railgun turrets, with most power generation and space taken over by the defence systems, that is the best that can be managed. As for crew size, at maximum it can house 20 people, needing a skeleton crew of 4 otherwise if not fully automated.

Finally, a collection of frigates, the Leatar-class frigates are meant to be support vessels with a decent bit of firepower, extensive networks of laser turrets make them great interceptors against various craft and missiles, presuming they are not simple teleported of course. Other than that there is a dozen railgun turrets of similar size to your own with four missile pods capable of launching five missiles each and of course, in built nanoforges. In terms of toughness, the frigates can be compared to your upgraded hull, which is acceptable for small war vessels. The biggest advantage of Leatar-class is that their small size allows them to house teleporters, letting the entire frigate appear and disappear as it wills anywhere upon the battlefield thus lending support where needed or striking at exposed or damaged ships. As for the crew, it has a maximum total of 10, with a skeleton crew of 5.

In total, the small fleet, that had utterly drained you of resources, looks like this:

>1 Copernicus-class heavy cruiser.
>8 Gatravan-class destroyers.
>20 Leatar-class frigates.

While the construction is underway, you turn your attention to two other primary tasks that demand your expertise.