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It is the year 0078 of the Universal Century. A half century has passed since the earth began moving its burgeoning population into gigantic orbiting space colonies. A new home for mankind, where people are born and raised… and die.

“We are the people of the universe. We have struggled to survive in a harsh environment, and new generations of colonists testify to our success. Now, when we gaze back at Earth, we see a sacred blue and green orb - the cradle of civilization and a sacred home that we must eternally preserve and protect . . .”
-Zeon Zum Deikun, UC 0058

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16:15, 9th December UC 0077
Zeon Military Academy on Guardian Banchi, Side Three (Republic of Zeon)


Crisp cool air greets you as the hermetic seals of the airlock hiss open. The wrapping blue and green vistas of Guardian Banchi’s cylindrical interior, a quintessential close-type O’Neill colony, stretch out far before you. Mountains and lakes, valleys and forests, the interior of the colony cylinder have been molded carefully to match many of Earth’s environments.

You stand at a secured exit of the colony’s Earth Federation controlled spaceport. All around you are edifices devoted to maintaining that distant government’s control over not only the people of Zeon, or Spacenoids, but all of mankind. White and gray concrete military structures stand interspersed about the small city wrapping around the spaceport’s connection to the colony, a constant reminder not only of the Federation’s political supremacy over what should be Zeon’s truly sovereign territory, but also of the jackbooted force by which they maintain that supremacy.
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>>5980958

The days of the Earth Federation trampling over humanity, the days of it stunting man’s progress into the stars and the expansion of human consciousness, will soon be at an end. You and your sister Artesia would prefer this end come peacefully, but you have aligned yourself with those who would cut a far bloodier path - the warmongering fiends who betrayed and slew your father, the Zabi family, have in the last two years become your closest allies. The relationship between your families, once friends, and then sworn enemies, and now ‘family’, has grown ever more complicated as time has marched on, but they remain the best hope for your family to regain control of and shepherd mankind, and also one of your most dire obstacles.

For now your older brother Casval plays the role of a spirited but loyal puppet of the Zabis, a useful tool, though you know he means none of it - ever has he plotted the deaths of the Zabis, the whole clan save your youngest sister, and he gathers his own power just as you do. A day of reckoning will come, a time when the knives will finally come out and every member of your two intermixed clans will be forced to pick sides - you know which one you will be on, but where the Zabis you care for will fall - Dozle, Garma, and Vivima - is up in the air.

Keep your friends close, but keep your enemies closer. Hmph, a bit trite, but there’s still a wisdom to those tired old words.

Sighing, you shake your head at the sight of more federation soldiers patrolling the exit of the space port, and begin to head down the textured steel steps leading into the occupied city. This city is not your final destination - you are headed to the linear rail station which connects directly to Guardian Military Academy, the premier - though far from only - military academy in all of Zeon. All of the Earth-sphere, if your step-father and superintendent of the academy Dozle Zabi is to be believed. He’s a big boaster, and very loud, but you agree with him on the academy - and his tastes in fencing and ship design as well, the giant Zabi and his love for the truly big have grown on you.
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>>5980959

As you reach the bottom of the stairs, you’re greeted by your sister Artesia. She’s looking quite prim and proper in her well cut green second year cadet’s uniform, blonde hair worn in a tight bun and blue eyes twinkling at the sight of you. She missed you terribly, you can feel the welcoming press of her mind even before words are exchanged. Beside her stands your good friend Blare, one of the sharpest minds at the academy, but a worried look is cast over his soft features; Tiff, his fiery girlfriend and another of your close allies, is not here with him - usually they are inseparable.

“Welcome back, Felix.” Artesia greets you warmly with a hug, which you happily receive. Blare greets you next, with another hug, though much briefer.

“It’s good to be back!” Your smile matches your sister’s, you’ve only been gone for a weekend but with travel to and from other colonies becoming more and more frequent you haven’t seen each other as much as you’d like these last few months - especially with Artesia’s medical training ongoing, “…I rushed home as soon as the news reached Riah - I couldn’t stay away from Zeon at a time like this, not for a whole week. Is it as bad as the reports are saying?”

“It is.” Your sister confirms with a grim nod, her smile dying away, pain held deep in her blue eyes, “Rioting all over Zum city and the rest of the Side, there was even a big fight right outside the palace - Gihren’s really stoked the flames this time… I’m just glad Casval wasn’t there with him to do it. They spend too much time together.”

“Casval might say the same of you and Garma,” You reply, immediately regretting. Artesia understands though, such small missteps are readily forgiven between you, and she knows your concerns as few others can - both a sister and a fellow Newtype, “…I know it’s not the same. What’s the feeling here though? Blood in the water?”

“Everyone’s waiting for it to go hot again, word is that the Federation will be rolling in heavy armor later today.” Blare offers up, entering the discussion now, “They’re getting more aggressive, a junior officer is bound to slip up and panic - with that kind of firepower it’s going to be a bloodbath.”

“Tanks? On protestors? …And I thought Riah was getting its throat stepped on too, but they were just using rubber bullets when I left - had the generals all on edge still.” You speak more quietly as a pair of tan uniformed Federation soldiers patrol past, their visored gaze lingering on your group for a moment longer than you’d like - they surely recognize you, but there is no swarming press of onlookers here, this is a secured area for diplomats and VIPs. The true public areas lies just beyond another perimeter, and you will move quickly to avoid them - you’re very experienced at avoiding unwanted onlookers, years of living a double life have made sure of that.
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>>5980961

“No, not on protestors - they’ll use tanks on ‘violent extremists’ - you should hear the spin the Star is putting on all of this.” Blare shakes his head and sighs, removing his glasses for a moment, “...It will be what it is though, we can’t change what’s already happened, only plan ahead. Where to, Felix? Back to the academy?”

“Yes…” You begin to answer, of course the academy is your destination, but there remains the matter of what you will do once you reach it - time is short at times like these, many pieces are moving about the board and they will not wait for you.

Vote:
>”...To my brother, I’m sure he’s gathered up the class with all this going on - I’m right, aren’t I?” Casval probably has the second and third year cadets organizing into squads and platoons already, you know him too well.

>”...We’re heading to the sim pods, we’ll call in all the others and discuss this together.” As Newtypes, you mean - Casval might show up on his own, he’s a part of that group - but these events must be discussed among those who are most aware of mankind’s coming destiny.

>”...Artesia and I will need to speak with Dozle when we arrive back at the academy, there are family matters to discuss. Blare, you should meet up with my brother. If he has a plan, listen, and help if you can.” Communications have been spotty with Federation interference, and you haven’t gotten word about your wife and children, or your mother, since this latest crisis began. Dozle will know the most of anyone save Vivima.

>Write-in.
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>>5980962

Voting:
Feel free to vote for several options and list them numerically [1), 2), 3), etc.] in order of your preference. Numerical listing is very important to avoid confusion. If your first choice loses your vote will shift to your second choice, and so on. If you switch preferences before votes are counted, please link back to your original preference vote. If you do not pick multiple options it will be assumed that you only want one. If you list several options without numerical separation I will assume you want to combine them.

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Previous Threads
Thread one: https://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive/2022/5414507/
Thread two: https://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive/2023/5492260/
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>>5980962
>”...To my brother, I’m sure he’s gathered up the class with all this going on - I’m right, aren’t I?” Casval probably has the second and third year cadets organizing into squads and platoons already, you know him too well.
Bros before step-bros.
Glad to see you back, you mutant spacenoid. I was two "Please wait a while before posting"s from running a Zeta Quest.
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>>5980966
do it anyways you fuckin coward

>>5980962
>”...To my brother, I’m sure he’s gathered up the class with all this going on - I’m right, aren’t I?” Casval probably has the second and third year cadets organizing into squads and platoons already, you know him too well.
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>>5980962
>”...To my brother, I’m sure he’s gathered up the class with all this going on - I’m right, aren’t I?” Casval probably has the second and third year cadets organizing into squads and platoons already, you know him too well.
We are so back bros!
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>>5980962
>>”...We’re heading to the sim pods, we’ll call in all the others and discuss this together.” As Newtypes, you mean - Casval might show up on his own, he’s a part of that group - but these events must be discussed among those who are most aware of mankind’s coming destiny.
Sweet!
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Some book keeping stuff: I just realized there is a typo in the OP, it should be UC 0077 for both dates given. I was considering setting things in January of 78 but went for a short time skip instead.

Assume things have been going largely according to plan with gathering up newtypes/pilot, working on Tryphosa's sisters, and guiding/growing Riah's Mobile Suit corps (which is helping lay the groundwork for Felix running his own Newtype MS corps back in Zeon, probably with pilots pulled from both Sides). Character relationships are largely the same, just more time has passed. Elena is off at Zeonic working as an engineer now and your kids are usually either with her or your mother in Zum city; your residence on Luna is usually left empty now and is being used by Kycilia as something of a spy nest - bit of a sad loss, but it isn't truly gone.
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>>5980997
shorter*
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>>5980962
>”...We’re heading to the sim pods, we’ll call in all the others and discuss this together.” As Newtypes, you mean - Casval might show up on his own, he’s a part of that group - but these events must be discussed among those who are most aware of mankind’s coming destiny.

Holy shit welcome back Contolist. Jump scared me with that qtg post.
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>>5980962
>”...We’re heading to the sim pods, we’ll call in all the others and discuss this together.” As Newtypes, you mean - Casval might show up on his own, he’s a part of that group - but these events must be discussed among those who are most aware of mankind’s coming destiny.

Good to see you again Contolist!


Anyways, we should gather our group together and prepare ourselves in ways that only newtypes can.
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>>5980962
>>”...To my brother, I’m sure he’s gathered up the class with all this going on - I’m right, aren’t I?” Casval probably has the second and third year cadets organizing into squads and platoons already, you know him too well.
Hell yeah, I love this quest. Glad to see it back.
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>>5980962
>”...Artesia and I will need to speak with Dozle when we arrive back at the academy, there are family matters to discuss. Blare, you should meet up with my brother. If he has a plan, listen, and help if you can.” Communications have been spotty with Federation interference, and you haven’t gotten word about your wife and children, or your mother, since this latest crisis began. Dozle will know the most of anyone save Vivima.

WELCOME BACK CONTOLIST
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>>5980958
HEY ITS BACK.

You've been missed.
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>>5980962
>>”...To my brother, I’m sure he’s gathered up the class with all this going on - I’m right, aren’t I?” Casval probably has the second and third year cadets organizing into squads and platoons already, you know him too well.
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Voting will be open until the morning, I think I'll have time to write around lunch. It's good to be back!
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>>5980962
>>”...We’re heading to the sim pods, we’ll call in all the others and discuss this together.” As Newtypes, you mean - Casval might show up on his own, he’s a part of that group - but these events must be discussed among those who are most aware of mankind’s coming destiny.
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One hour until voting closes.
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>>5980966
>>5980971
>>5980987
>>5981029
>>5981113
To Casval.

>>5981273
>>5981015
>>5981002
>>5980990
Sim pods.

>>5981041
Dozle.

Going straight to Casval wins, writing.
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“Yes, back to the academy, and to my brother. I’m sure he’s gathered up the class already with all this going on,” You reply to Blare and begin the walk toward the nearby rail station, “I’m right, aren’t I?”

Blare nods, “He’s held a few meetings, all the break rooms were packed before I got sent out here to watch Federation deployments. Exercises and classes were canceled, so there’s not much to do except watch the news, the little we get, and try to find out more… Do you think this will turn into something larger, Felix?”

“Larger?” You let the word hang in the air for a moment, silence falling around the three of you as you keep walking across the concrete sidewalk toward the glass and steel structure of the rail station. Waving to the Federation guards posted near its front, you’re waved through immediately - everyone knows who you and Artesia are, even in your cadet uniforms. As soon as you’re past the guards, the talk begins again.

“A real conflict, not just riots and skirmishes with security forces.” Blare clarifies, though of course you knew what he meant - some things are best left unsaid near Federation soldiers though.

War.” Artesia frowns, always one to prefer peace, as you reach the platform and wait for the next train to arrive. It won’t take long, usually never more than a minute or two. “We’re not ready for it. …What a nightmare.”

“We’re more prepared now than we’ve ever been,” You cross your arms as the boxy white train slides smoothly to a stop, large plate glass windows revealing the almost totally empty interiors of its simple cars - not many riders at a time like this, “...But let’s hope it doesn’t come to that. We can’t let them roll over our people though.”

The train doors hiss open, and you step aboard - the three of you choose to stand despite the many empty seats, simply gripping onto the vertical steel poles within. Another hiss and the doors seal shut, and then a moment later there is a slight jolt as the train moves out of the station. The brick and plaster buildings of the city blur past as the train gains speed, a few of the taller Federation barracks and command posts interspersed here and there - soon you’re out and into the green of the colony, passing hills and forests on your way to the academy grounds.

“Unless you know something I don’t, ‘more prepared’ doesn’t change the balance of power nearly far enough, even with Riah. The Federation must know that.” Blare’s blue eyes flick between you and Artesia, taking in your reactions carefully, “...Is there something else, Felix?”
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>>5981520

“...No, nothing that’s ready yet.” You grimace at the thought of what might come soon, an early war would be a disaster, even with a few thousand mobile suits prepared there aren’t enough skilled pilots to man them or ships to deploy from - and a purely nuclear exchange would only invite hell to the Sides, not liberation from Earth, “We have enough strength to make a bloody fight of it, and Federation politicians don’t have the stomach for those kinds of risks - they’re still reorganizing their command, and the fleet is scattered piecemeal, it would be a mess.”

“Casval said something about that too, that it might be a good chance to act while the Federation is flat-footed.” Artesia’s gaze is locked firmly on the hills and forests passing by outside the train’s large plate glass windows, her back turned to you and Blare, “He’s talked with Garma about it too.”

“And Vivima?” You question, more concerned about the craftier of the two young Zabis - Garma’s kept in check by Artesia, and despite occasional flare ups of Zabi arrogance and a lingering need to prove himself to his despicable elders, he is one of the few you mostly trust. Vivima, though a friend, even a close friend, as strange as that is to think, is far more dangerous in this kind of tense political atmosphere.

“She’s been with Tryphosa through all of this, they’re both still here… somewhere. I haven’t had a chance to talk with either of them, but I’m sure Viv isn’t happy with the Federation jamming communications.” Artesia grins ever so slightly at what must be the understatement of the decade - Vivima and cut communications go together about as well as Gihren and Earth day.

“...I saw some of that on the flight in, there was a cruiser sitting right over the colony’s main laser receiver, and troop and cargo ships docking - lots of them.” You recall the blue hulled warship loitering just above the main comms array, not only jamming radio signals but also physically blocking laser communications. “There still must be something getting through though. It’s like this everywhere?”

Blare shrugs slightly, “We cannot know for sure, but I would wager it is. They have the hulls for it but not enough boots to set down in every colony. They’re willing to spread out their ships, but they’re mustering forces here - I think they’re going to Zum soon, maybe in a few days, there’s more arriving all the time. If nothing else comes of this, I’m sure they will have to cycle back to Luna II. Most of the Feddies I’ve seen dock here aren’t well organized - they’re just piling them in at the barracks by the spaceport, that base has to be close to capacity…"
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>>5981522

The rest of the train ride goes by without much in the way of important conversation, just a bit of idle chatter between you and Artesia - worries about Elena and your mother, and all the children, and the state of the wider crisis Gihren has stoked, but it comes to little. Neither of you know enough to do more than speculate and worry - It’s comforting to be with your sister again though.

When the train comes to a stop, the doors part and you step out onto the platform to find several cadets already waiting for you, a number of whom appear to be concealing handguns beneath their uniforms - you’ve got sharp enough eyes to immediately pick out the slight printing patterns under the stiff green material. A tall woman with long dark hair, right up to the very edge of regulation length, leads them. You know her at once; Izumi Fuchs. Behind her, almost blocked from sight by the other taller cadets and forced to push his way through the crowd with wide hands, stand your stocky red haired friend Rix. Greetings are exchanged quickly, as a Federation patrol is already on its way over to the small crowd gathered at the station.

“Move it along, ya Zeeks!” One of the tan uniformed soldiers shouts. He and his fellow Feddies are in full battle rattle, vests and helmets, plenty of magazines to spare, and bullpup rifles slung over their shoulders, “No gathering in public areas during a state of emergency! Go on, get! Damned Spacenoid trash, haven’t you seen the news?”

Not looking to start a fight here, you take your enlarged group out and away from the station and along the white footpaths leading across Guardian Academy’s garden-like grounds. A few of the other cadets with you shout back taunts and jeers at the Feddie guards, but there’s intent to follow through with any of it right now.

“Izumi,” You address the tall cadet directly, trusting she’ll have an excellent grip of the situation, “Where is Casval at? One of the break rooms?”

“Break room three… some of the others have started calling it ‘little Zeon’ already.” Izumi replies quite seriously, though with the faintest of grins gracing her fine features, “He sent us to fetch you, in case you tried running off to the pods.”

“I had considered it, but this is an all hands on deck kind of situation.” You reply while continuing the walk toward the main Academy building, passing by the ground’s large pond and the statue of your father you have spent so much time with in the past, “He’s getting ready to act?”
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>>5981524

I am, and the game is already on - there’s no decisions left to be made. Those animals back there feel it in the air too, the tension, the fear - their fear. They know what happens when you press something dangerous into a corner like this.” Izumi takes a quiet joy in times like this, she lives for competition and tension, though you know her well enough to understand she isn’t a true warmonger - just an exceedingly capable, cunning, and enthusiastic hunter.

“...Pessimistic outlook.” Artesia mutters to herself.

“Aye, bit it’s a real yin, isn’t it?” Rix growls out from nearby, tromping along a bit faster to keep up with everyone else, “‘Tis whit we've bin training fur.”

A few minutes later and you’re inside the main building of the academy, and within the dimly lit interior of break room three, ‘little Zeon’. It’s usually used as a film room, rows of chairs set up more like a cinema than a place to relax and chat, but instead of entertainment the projector atop the ceiling is displaying a live feed of rioting on Zum. It cuts away occasionally to show Federation warships holding positions close to the entrances of the capital colony’s primary spaceport.

Casval is sitting beside Garma, though other cadets are spread about here and there in the room, watching the news in silence. You and Artesia take a seat beside your brother. The rest of the cadets who escorted you here file out of the room, led by Izumi and Rix. Blare goes with them, and you just barely catch sight of him getting tackle-hugged by Tiff out in the hall before the door is shut and the dim half-dark of the room returns.

”...At least fifty eight are confirmed dead after the latest clash between Federation security forces and armed separatist protestors on Zum…” A newswoman’s disembodied voice narrates the scenes of violence as they flicker past on the screen, speaking far too calmly for what is being displayed. Burning buildings, lines of protestors crashing into soldiers and police in riot gear, armored cars with pressure hoses spraying down dozens of men at a time, and even exchanges of gunfire between a few Federation soldiers and a distant hotel that looks to have been shelled already.

>”So what’s the plan, Cas?” Casval is the eldest, defer. This is a crisis you need to act as one to address, no bickering - give him your support.
>”...If they keep their ships that close with traffic still moving through, there’s going to be a collision.” You’ve got a pilot’s eye, and those are very, very badly cluttered docking paths outside of Zum. It’s a disaster waiting to unfold.
>”The situation wasn’t too different in Riah when I left, not quite as many Feddies yet but it was moving that way.” Catch Garma and your brother up on the state of your tenuous allies on Side Six.
>Write-in.
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>>5981526
>”So what’s the plan, Cas?” Casval is the eldest, defer. This is a crisis you need to act as one to address, no bickering - give him your support.
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>>5981526
>”The situation wasn’t too different in Riah when I left, not quite as many Feddies yet but it was moving that way.” Catch Garma and your brother up on the state of your tenuous allies on Side Six.
The Titans were completely right, if anyone in the Federation had the balls to deploy nerve gas on and vent rebellious banchi, none of these problems would be happening.
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>>5981526
>”So what’s the plan, Cas?” Casval is the eldest, defer. This is a crisis you need to act as one to address, no bickering - give him your support.
>”The situation wasn’t too different in Riah when I left, not quite as many Feddies yet but it was moving that way.” Catch Garma and your brother up on the state of your tenuous allies on Side Six.
Give them info then let's see what the plan is.
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>>5981526
1.
>”The situation wasn’t too different in Riah when I left, not quite as many Feddies yet but it was moving that way.” Catch Garma and your brother up on the state of your tenuous allies on Side Six
>”So what’s the plan, Cas?” Casval is the eldest, defer. This is a crisis you need to act as one to address, no bickering - give him your support.
2.
>”So what’s the plan, Cas?” Casval is the eldest, defer. This is a crisis you need to act as one to address, no bickering - give him your support.
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>>5981526
>>5981546
Supporting. Based Titans enjoyer.
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>>5981526
>>”The situation wasn’t too different in Riah when I left, not quite as many Feddies yet but it was moving that way.” Catch Garma and your brother up on the state of your tenuous allies on Side Six.
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>>5981526
Supporting >>5981549. This is not the time to withhold information from our siblings.
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>>5981526
>>5981549
+1

>>5981546
>The Titans were completely right
Cringe.
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>>5981526
>”So what’s the plan, Cas?” Casval is the eldest, defer. This is a crisis you need to act as one to address, no bickering - give him your support.
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One hour until voting closes.
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>>5981613
>Cringe
Cope more colonigger, everything the zeeks did before them justified their existence and everything the zeeks did after them vindicated them.
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>>5981666
If your gonna be a titan fag, Why partake?
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>>5981526
>”The situation wasn’t too different in Riah when I left, not quite as many Feddies yet but it was moving that way.” Catch Garma and your brother up on the state of your tenuous allies on Side Six.
>”So what’s the plan, Cas?” Casval is the eldest, defer. This is a crisis you need to act as one to address, no bickering - give him your support.
Great to have you back Contolist. What happened anyway, life come at ya hard?
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>>5981671
Because it's a good and fun Gundam Quest and because everything after CCA proved Gihren right.
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>>5981666
Spacenoids will forever mog you with newtype powers, seethe more titanfag.
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>>5981526
>”The situation wasn’t too different in Riah when I left, not quite as many Feddies yet but it was moving that way.” Catch Garma and your brother up on the state of your tenuous allies on Side Six.
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>>5981527
>>5981641
Defer.

>>5981546
>>5981565
>>5981683
>>5981575
Riah.

>>5981549
>>5981561
>>5981584
>>5981613
>>5981672
Riah+Defer. Wins, writing.

>>5981672
>what happened
A nasty mix of burnout and life getting much busier for a few months, but things have settled back down now. I missed writing the quest, it's good to be back at it again.
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>>5981686
Glad to hear it amigo. Lets take it easy so we avoid that burnout in the future. And I hope life takes a break from throwing haymakers your way for the foreseeable (though if you have some socials to follow just in case...)
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“The situation wasn’t too different in Riah when I left,” You speak quietly within the dim room, watching the images of protests riots play across the screen - It’s all coverage from Federation sources, probably the only thing they’re allowing to be piped into the colony with communications being locked down so tightly, “Not quite as many Feddies yet, but it was moving that way - and they weren’t policing communications like this.”

You gesture toward the screen with one hand, and ponder for a moment just how much of a greater mess the Federation has created by trying to clamp down so tightly - this is almost unprecedented, it’s bound to only provoke further riots and attacks. Can’t be popular on Earth either, not that people there really have much of a say - everything is crooked and rigged.

“What was the atmosphere like in Riah, brother?” Casval asks calmly, watching the screen intently just as you are - those are your people clashing with Federation soldiers and riot police, and not in some unfamiliar place but on the very streets of Zum. You recognize some of the more prominent buildings in the background, even catching glimpses of the distant and menacing palace at times.

“Tense.” You give the only answer you have - there’s no other word for it, “The generals placed portions of Riah’s reserves on stand-by notice, and mobile suit training was stopped so the pilots could prepare. A hundred suits wouldn’t do much across a whole Side though.”

“They’re preparing for war then? Over this?” Garma asks, half shocked by the news and turning to face you, the light from the screen playing across his soft features. He and Vivima really do favor one another in some light, their late mother shines through them far more clearly than Degwin ever has.

“Some are, but they know even together we’d lose as things stand. What they were doing when I left was preparing for a final stand before Earth’s boot crushes their neck.” You shake your head, disgusted by the reality of it - even with vastly increased ship and mobile suit production, both shepherded along by Dozle and Vivima, Zeon and Riah need more time to build up forces - not nearly enough men or machines are ready, “Ever since they put down those Federation loyalists months ago, the ones Ramba helped to clean up, some of Riah’s high command have felt they were living on borrowed time. They’re mistaken, of course, but I can hardly blame them. ...They won’t move unless we do, or the Federation forces their hand and hard.”
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>>5981760

“That’s reassuring,” You brother’s eyes focus upon the face of a Federation official speaking on the screen - no one of great importance, just another late middle aged suit like so many of the other Earthnoid bureaucratic class that are so heavily entrenched in the Federation’s government, “They’re still predictable then, I was worrying some of them might have grown a spine. Hopefully they will before a real war starts.”

“Those that have them have brains as well, thankfully.” You chuckle, “I’d worry more that the Federation might have found some backbone instead, this crackdown seems worse than the others - The worst in years.”

“It’s all awful, none of it should be happening.” Artesia huffs unhappily in agreement as casualties figures scroll across the screen, growing ever more dire each time the news shows them, “Look at all those people… It’s madness to fight like this, we were getting so much already through the talks down on Earth.”

“It’s Gihren.” Garma replies a little too casually, too used to his family causing these kinds of crises, “The negotiations in Geneva were stalling. He does it all for Zeon - He knows things like this will happen. ‘It speeds up our people’s destiny,’ that’s what he’d say if he were here. …I don’t like how it looks either though, Artesia, but what’s the alternative, let them trample us forever? We’re a proud people, we can only take so much.”

“Pride can only be swallowed for so long before one is forced to act,” Casval agrees ominously, though Garma misses the weight of the words, “And the Federation could have chosen to respond less harshly - this just shows again what we all knew, they’re here to occupy Zeon, not protect it. There’s disagreement on Earth about how to do it, but the more heavy handed just need an excuse to show their true colors as tyrants.”

“...So what’s the plan then, Cas?” You ask, unsure of the direction your brother intends to take all of this, “I saw you’ve both been getting the class organized into units - Izumi had a gun on her, so did some of the others.”

“Ah, you saw that, did you?” Casval turns to face you, a mischievous grin appearing slowly, “It was my idea, things are moving fast and I wanted to keep ahead of events. We have men posted at the armories and the vehicle depot, Garma saw to that, in case the Feddies come knocking and ask for all of it - that can leave with our bullets, hahaha.”

“I made sure they knew they had the support of the Zabi clan.” Garma puffs up a little at the mention of his family - of your family, legally speaking, though in truth you’ve still not gotten used to that. His confidence fades quickly though, and he tugs a bit at his collar as he speaks further, “Uh… Dozle doesn't know though, he’s been in meetings with Federation officers all day - lots of shouting.”
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>>5981763

“Sounds like Dozle.” You snort, know the big man’s fighting his own battle for Zeon, even if he has all the political subtlety and grace of a gorilla in plate armor rampaging through a particularly delicate china shop, “So we… watch and wait?”

“There was some talk that we might get deployed under Federation control. Technically under their control, at least.” Casval mentions offhandedly, as if it barely matters, but your eyes widen at the news - that would change everything, emergency activation would force some hard decisions political and fast. Degwin wouldn’t see two of his children and… they others added to his family moved about like pawns. And when the old prune moves, Zeon does - Gihren might sway the masses, but he is not yet fully in control of the Side.

“That’s a dangerous plan.” You reply, your nose wrinkled up in disgust at the idea of being commanded by whichever Federation officers commanded this crackdown, “The Federation doesn’t have the guts for that kind of move, they know Degwin would step in - and they we’d refuse regardless.”

“Did I sound worried?” Casval laughs, “We’d be pilots probably, if they have any sense left, not manning water cannons. Everyone here has basic piloting certification now, and a lot of traffic has been interrupted with workers on strike.”

“...Well, that’s not so bad then.” You fold your arms, considering the tedious but important work such relief efforts would be. That’s the kind of emergency measure you could actually support, working to keep the lights on for people who need it and ensure vital shipments still move about the Side while everything is so chaotic. It would be better to be activated by Zeon’s defense forces though, not the federation which controls them mostly on paper at this point, “...And I haven’t had a chance to fly a shuttle in a while.”

“Been sneaking off too much to fly Zakus in Riah, eh?” Your brother asks, “You should send me one of these weekends instead, the pods aren’t half as fun.”
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>>5981766

You have been getting in lots of hours of flight time on Riah’s somewhat outdated Zaku I’s, though you know Casval - and Vivima for that matter - have developed quite a habit of flying their personal guard’s Royal Guard variant Zaku whenever they have the spare time. You have all improved, but the two of them remain just slightly ahead of you - You win a little less than half the time in the sim pods, but it’s a close fight now and on some days you come out ahead more than not. Not most days though. You suspect in a real battle your newtype senses would be more helpful, but they do far less in a simulation. Vivima, to your relief, still has not awakened despite many hours spent with Tryphosa and her sisters - but you have felt Viv teetering on the precipice of something for months now.

“After this is all over, brother…” You’d like to see him flying in Riah with you, Artesia as well - all of your Newtypes in fact, if you could manage it, but only family and perhaps Tryphosa are a realistic goal for now.

Felix will have a radio capable of mundane communications in all of these options, even just staying to watch the news.
>”But for now I suppose all we can do is wait. It sounds like you have things prepared.” Watch the news feed with your family, maybe there is something to be gleaned even through the Federation’s propagandistic spin. You’ll all be together if something happens.
>”But for now I think I need to find Tryphosa, just a feeling I’ve got. I’ll be back soon.” It won’t be hard to locate your bond, a few thoughts sent out across the colony and you should be pulled right to her… And Vivima.
>”But for now I need to speak with Dozle, he might have heard more about mother, or Elena.” The big Zabi’s a father as well, you’ve both grown closer because of it over the last half year; he’ll tell you everything he knows.
>Write-in.
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>>5981768
>”But for now I think I need to find Tryphosa, just a feeling I’ve got. I’ll be back soon.” It won’t be hard to locate your bond, a few thoughts sent out across the colony and you should be pulled right to her… And Vivima.
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>>5981768
>Felix will have a radio capable of mundane communications in all of these options, even just staying to watch the news.
Have the Feds not figured out Minovsky Scattering yet? Or are they just not using it for their own sake?

>”But for now I need to speak with Dozle, he might have heard more about mother, or Elena.” The big Zabi’s a father as well, you’ve both grown closer because of it over the last half year; he’ll tell you everything he knows.
We might get to hear more about what the Federations actual goals and next steps are by going to Dozle.
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>>5981768
>”But for now I think I need to find Tryphosa, just a feeling I’ve got. I’ll be back soon.” It won’t be hard to locate your bond, a few thoughts sent out across the colony and you should be pulled right to her… And Vivima.

Time to find the one we need.
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>>5981773
>Minovsky scattering
They have figured it out and adopted the practice, but haven't really adjusted their doctrine or platforms to account for it yet outside of updated ship reactors. Felix would probably suspect they're doing some of it to help jam up communications, but he doesn't know for sure.

>>5981781
>the one you need
Aww, that's a sweet thing to say about Vivima, anon.
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>>5981783
NO, I AM ON TEAM TRYPHOSA. NOT VIVIMA.

i'll NEVER betray our true love.
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>>5981768
>>”But for now I suppose all we can do is wait. It sounds like you have things prepared.” Watch the news feed with your family, maybe there is something to be gleaned even through the Federation’s propagandistic spin. You’ll all be together if something happens.
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>>5981768
>”But for now I need to speak with Dozle, he might have heard more about mother, or Elena.” The big Zabi’s a father as well, you’ve both grown closer because of it over the last half year; he’ll tell you everything he knows.
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>>5981768
>>”But for now I need to speak with Dozle, he might have heard more about mother, or Elena.” The big Zabi’s a father as well, you’ve both grown closer because of it over the last half year; he’ll tell you everything he knows.
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>>5981768
>”But for now I think I need to find Tryphosa, just a feeling I’ve got. I’ll be back soon.” It won’t be hard to locate your bond, a few thoughts sent out across the colony and you should be pulled right to her… And Vivima.

>>5981794
>i'll NEVER betray our true love.
Elena?
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>>5981768
>”But for now I think I need to find Tryphosa, just a feeling I’ve got. I’ll be back soon.” It won’t be hard to locate your bond, a few thoughts sent out across the colony and you should be pulled right to her… And Vivima.
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Speaking of Minovsky, what's his status?

>>5981768
>>5981849
I'll change my vote to
>”But for now I need to speak with Dozle, he might have heard more about mother, or Elena.” The big Zabi’s a father as well, you’ve both grown closer because of it over the last half year; he’ll tell you everything he knows.
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>>5981973
>Speaking of Minovsky, what's his status?
Likely getting tortured by Kycilia or house arrest. Shame we haven't been able to talk with him yet.
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>>5981768
1.
>”But for now I need to speak with Dozle, he might have heard more about mother, or Elena.” The big Zabi’s a father as well, you’ve both grown closer because of it over the last half year; he’ll tell you everything he knows.
Big Zams and Dadzle seems good about now.
2.
>”But for now I suppose all we can do is wait. It sounds like you have things prepared.” Watch the news feed with your family, maybe there is something to be gleaned even through the Federation’s propagandistic spin. You’ll all be together if something happens.
Also good to talk with Cas more.
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Voting will remain open until the morning.

>>5981974
>>5981973
Minovsky is currently a prisoner of the Zabis and alternating between working on projects for Zeonic and the Flanagan Institute. Elena sees Minovsky on an almost daily basis as part of Project K, he's the senior expert working on the new reactor design among other things. They get along well, and Minovsky is a good mentor, but he is absolutely miserable being forced to work as he is and gets a little less productive every day - the job is very slowly grinding him down. Or alternatively his soul was consumed by Kycilia's hair and a zombie-Minovsky now labors for the Zabis for all eternity. Felix has never met Minovsky, he spends his visits to Zeonic largely with Elena, Max, and Luna (or Vivima, she goes on production inspections somewhat regularly).

If you want short updates about any character, just ask. There's a lot of mundane stuff that happens in six months but almost all of it is just a continuation of trends that were set in the previous threads.
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>>5981768
>”But for now I need to speak with Dozle, he might have heard more about mother, or Elena.” The big Zabi’s a father as well, you’ve both grown closer because of it over the last half year; he’ll tell you everything he knows.
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One hour until voting closes.
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>>5981772
>>5981781
>>5981912
>>5981957
Tryphosa.

>>5981773
>>5981857
>>5981882
>>5981973
>>5981976
>>5982157
BIG DOZLE. Wins, writing.
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Beyond the important family matters, isn't this a good time to sway Dozle away from the Gihren axis permanently? Hes not a fool, he can see how much suffering this is bringing down on Zeon, endangering our family and others. And surely as a military man he can appreciate how much of a liability his brother is, bringing us so close to war when we aren't prepared. We should take this opportunity to drive the wedge in fully.
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“But for now I need to speak with Dozle,” You continue, though it looks as if Casval expected that. His slight grin turns a shade more smug, though not in a bad way, he pulls it off, “He might have heard more about mother, or Elena and the kids.”

“Ever the family man, Felix.” Your brother chuckles lightly, but flashing images of explosions playing across the screen dampen his levity somewhat, “Bring back news. Mother should be safe at the palace but it’s better to be sure about these things, isn’t it?”

“So it is.” You agree with him, standing up from your seat before stopping to ask a further question to your three family members, “None of you have spoken with Dozle about what’s going on?”

“We thought it might be best to leave him out of our preparations for now, better to ask forgiveness than permission.” Garma says with a laugh, your brother giving the slightest nod of agreement and raising his drink a little. “...I did speak with him earlier, but he was shouting about Federation officers and meetings, you know how he gets sometimes.”

Loud.” Artesia suppresses a laugh as she stands, “He cares though. Felix, I’ll come too. I can’t stand to see any more of this news.”

“He might not have anything better to say.” You warn her, but of course she must already know that; even among Newtypes, you’ve always felt Artesia to be particularly empathetic, and the scenes of destruction playing out across the screen unsettle her. It projects out from her, a ghostly tension a step removed from horror and fear, forcing her to turn cold. She hates it, and wants an escape.

“I’d rather hear it than see it.” Artesia sighs before turning back and leaning down for a moment to give Garma a quick kiss - which you are still not used to seeing, but less uncomfortable than things between Dozle and your mother. Ugh, Zabis. …It’s still sweet though, they’ve been good for each other. “I’ll be back later, Garma.”

Garma takes a moment to reboot, blinking and blushing and smiling like the softhearted dope you know him to be under a childhood’s worth of Zabi upbringing. Eventually he manages to speak, fumbling for something in one of his pockets, retrieving a small radio after a moment, “Here, take one - In case something happens.”

“Good idea.” Artesia takes the radio and immediately hands it off to you, which you then pocket, “We’ll keep together.”
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>>5982322

With a few more parting words you’re both off, heading through the halls of the academy toward Dozle’s office. Oil paintings line the walls in this section, all of great battles and generals from history. Soon you have reached the great wooden doors of the office. Muffled shouting sounds from behind the doors, and after exchanging glances with your sister you both press closer to listen in. You’ve been in this position many times before, eavesdropping through a door - it almost makes you feel like a kid again.

“-A CRUISER CRASHED? JUST NOW?!” Dozle’s rumbles clearly even through the thick door. He’s probably shouting into his phone again, “FEDERATION FOOLS, THEY KNEW THIS COULD HAPPEN - IS A THERE A BREACH? …No? WHY DIDN’T YOU START WITH THAT?”

Your eyes widen as you hear the big man’s words - a crash and asking about a breach means something large must have hit a colony. Meeting Artesia’s worried gaze, you understand her perfectly - she intends to enter the room now, as do you. Pushing the doors open together, one on each, you find Dozle standing and leaning over his desk shouting down into a phone exactly as you’d expected. His broad, scarred face looks up to you, frustration and anger etched deep across it.

“...The AGRICULTURE section? You made it sound like it struck a habitation zone! …All hands then? Mm, those fools were playing with fire. How’s ours? Hm, I see.” Dozle’s thundering dies down after your unexpected entrance, but he looks no happier, “...Not enough pilots, eh? Well, we have plenty here. I’ll give the order before those tan dogs do. …Yes, we’ll speak later.”

“What happened?” You ask in unison with your sister as soon as Dozle has hung up the phone, “A crash?”

Standing back to his full height, arms crossed, Dozle delivers the news, “A Federation ship crashed into one of the farming Banchi near Zum, it collided with one of our unactivated Musais.”

“One of their cruisers rammed one of ours?” Artesia gasps, “How bad was it?”

“All hands lost on the Federation ship, the Musai lost an engine…” Dozle shakes his head, fists clenching tight, “Your class is going to be activated for emergency service. I’ll give the order in an hour… I doubt this will be the last collision.”

“We’d be glad to help our people, sir.” You adopt a little more formality at the mention of activation, but it isn’t really necessary, “...But we were coming to ask about mother, and Elena, and the kids. Have you gotten word from them?”
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>>5982325

Dozle nods, “I did earlier. Astraea and Mineva are safe in the palace, Glemy as well. Elena and your twins are at Zeonic still - the Federation hasn’t set a single pair of boots on any of their factory Banchi. If only we could manage that everywhere…”

“Kycilia’s work, I’m sure. That’s a relief then.” Artesia comments without surprise, seeming to grasp things as soon as the words leave the big man’s mouth, and Dozle grunts loudly in confirmation.

You echo the sentiment, a wave of calm washing over you at the confirmation of the safety of your family, especially your children. Whenever anything happens these days you find yourself worrying for them. It’s hard to be gone from them so often, especially in this political atmosphere - even when they’re ‘safe’, you know many threats still remain.

>”So you have a line open still? I thought the Federation was blocking everything.” He must have to have been on the phone like that.
>”If we’re going to be activated then we’ll be working disaster relief, right? We could take out pods and some of the Mobile Workers to clear debris.” You happen to have a great deal of experience with both.
>”...Any word from the rest of the brass on everything that’s been going on? I just got back from Riah, the generals were all spooked by the intensity of the crackdown… The Feddies are overplaying their hand, Dozle, but we’re not ready for a fight yet either.” If this was baited by Gihren, he’s done it masterfully - with a big ship collision added to the news, and probably a spike in food prices for some Banchi, support for independence will only become fiercer.
>Write-in.
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>>5982329
>”...Any word from the rest of the brass on everything that’s been going on? I just got back from Riah, the generals were all spooked by the intensity of the crackdown… The Feddies are overplaying their hand, Dozle, but we’re not ready for a fight yet either.” If this was baited by Gihren, he’s done it masterfully - with a big ship collision added to the news, and probably a spike in food prices for some Banchi, support for independence will only become fiercer.
Guessing this is the option that'll lead to putting a wedge between Dadzle and Geyhren
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>>5982329
>”...Any word from the rest of the brass on everything that’s been going on? I just got back from Riah, the generals were all spooked by the intensity of the crackdown… The Feddies are overplaying their hand, Dozle, but we’re not ready for a fight yet either.” If this was baited by Gihren, he’s done it masterfully - with a big ship collision added to the news, and probably a spike in food prices for some Banchi, support for independence will only become fiercer.
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>>5982329
>”If we’re going to be activated then we’ll be working disaster relief, right? We could take out pods and some of the Mobile Workers to clear debris.” You happen to have a great deal of experience with both.
>”...Any word from the rest of the brass on everything that’s been going on? I just got back from Riah, the generals were all spooked by the intensity of the crackdown… The Feddies are overplaying their hand, Dozle, but we’re not ready for a fight yet either.” If this was baited by Gihren, he’s done it masterfully - with a big ship collision added to the news, and probably a spike in food prices for some Banchi, support for independence will only become fiercer.
Mixing these two options is probably best. We don't gain much by fretting over Elena and the twins at the current moment since they're arguably the safest right now. Catching Dadzle up on the situation in Riah and driving the wedge between him and Ghiren, goes hand in hand emphasizing that we should focus on disaster relief rather than a direct response to the Feddies.
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>>5981996
What's going on with Ramba? Is he still in Riah?

>>5982329
>”So you have a line open still? I thought the Federation was blocking everything.” He must have to have been on the phone like that.
>”...Any word from the rest of the brass on everything that’s been going on? I just got back from Riah, the generals were all spooked by the intensity of the crackdown… The Feddies are overplaying their hand, Dozle, but we’re not ready for a fight yet either.” If this was baited by Gihren, he’s done it masterfully - with a big ship collision added to the news, and probably a spike in food prices for some Banchi, support for independence will only become fiercer.
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>”...Any word from the rest of the brass on everything that’s been going on? I just got back from Riah, the generals were all spooked by the intensity of the crackdown… The Feddies are overplaying their hand, Dozle, but we’re not ready for a fight yet either.” If this was baited by Gihren, he’s done it masterfully - with a big ship collision added to the news, and probably a spike in food prices for some Banchi, support for independence will only become fiercer.
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>>5981996
>spoiler
I'm surprised Kycilia's hair hasn't zombified anyone else. Truly an emergency that surpasses the OYW.
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>>5982329
>”So you have a line open still? I thought the Federation was blocking everything.” He must have to have been on the phone like that.
>”...Any word from the rest of the brass on everything that’s been going on? I just got back from Riah, the generals were all spooked by the intensity of the crackdown… The Feddies are overplaying their hand, Dozle, but we’re not ready for a fight yet either.” If this was baited by Gihren, he’s done it masterfully - with a big ship collision added to the news, and probably a spike in food prices for some Banchi, support for independence will only become fiercer.
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One hour until voting closes.

>>5982352
Ramba has been cycling around between training pilots in Zeon and Riah, and occasional special assignments elsewhere. Most of his time is spent in Zeon. Felix has been able to see him a few times during training.
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>>5982329
>”If we’re going to be activated then we’ll be working disaster relief, right? We could take out pods and some of the Mobile Workers to clear debris.” You happen to have a great deal of experience with both.
>”...Any word from the rest of the brass on everything that’s been going on? I just got back from Riah, the generals were all spooked by the intensity of the crackdown… The Feddies are overplaying their hand, Dozle, but we’re not ready for a fight yet either.” If this was baited by Gihren, he’s done it masterfully - with a big ship collision added to the news, and probably a spike in food prices for some Banchi, support for independence will only become fiercer.
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>>5982329
>”...Any word from the rest of the brass on everything that’s been going on? I just got back from Riah, the generals were all spooked by the intensity of the crackdown… The Feddies are overplaying their hand, Dozle, but we’re not ready for a fight yet either.” If this was baited by Gihren, he’s done it masterfully - with a big ship collision added to the news, and probably a spike in food prices for some Banchi, support for independence will only become fiercer.
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>>5982531
>>5982343
Mobile Workers+Brass.

>>5982491
>>5982352
Open line+Brass.

>>5982555
>>5982358
>>5982340
>>5982332
Brass. Wins, writing.
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”...Any word from the rest of the brass on everything that’s been going on? I just got back from Riah, the generals were all spooked by the intensity of the crackdown…” You ask Dozle solemnly, laying out the situation as you see while doing so. You take a seat in front of his desk, as does Artesia. “The Federation are overplaying their hand, Dozle, but we’re not ready for a fight yet either.”

“Any word? The word is prepare. A general standby has been ordered, other units are being activated too, and not for debris cleanup.” Dozle rumbles out his response, taking a seat within his far larger high chair and letting out a frustrated growl, “That was Rugens on the phone just now, got caught out on vacation, ha. What a time to take a week off! The situation was the same in Riah?”

“Nervous generals, lots of confusion, reserves being prepared to be called up; I’d say that’s a match if I’ve ever heard one.” There’s little to add to the general picture, the more precise details you could give Dozle are likely already out of date, and certainly will be by the time anything further happens.

“Mm. We may not be ready for a war, but if these Federation fools keep acting this way they’re going to get a big surprise.” Dozle smashes one meaty hand into the palm of his other, “Someone will give them a black eye, I am certain of it.”

“Do you think that’s wise though?” Artesia questions quietly, her words cutting through the big man’s posturing as few can besides mother. She understood your intent as soon as you began, clueing in by feeling alone.

“...Mm.” Dozle strokes his scarred chin and considers the question. He might not be the most clever of the Zabis, especially politically, but he is actually quite intelligent - just very blunt and straightforward, “I think it is not worth finding out - And you know how I love a big fight. That die shouldn’t be cast. Not yet.”

“Oh, you’ve been reading Suetonius?” You question, surprised to hear something so old from Dozle.

“...Just bits and pieces, I try to read most of what is assigned to cadets. I’m glad you’re keeping up.” The huge Zabi seems quite pleased with your observation, but he’s wrong.

“I read most of the old histories years ago, when I was finishing my degree.” You correct him.

“So did I. We are keeping up though, don’t worry.” Artesia adds in. She never had as much of an appreciation for the humanities as you did, more interested in the physical sciences, but she also didn’t run off for hours shooting guns or fencing like you and Casval have. You’re all incredibly educated for your age, but Artesia's love for books and greater free time meant she covered more ground overall, and because of that little islands of unexpected knowledge still pop up here and there.
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>>5982656

“Ah, yes, I do forget sometimes you were all so many years ahead. Fitting for your - for our - family!” Dozle grins wide, thoughts drifting away from the present for a few moments, “Simpler times! When we have finally dealt with the Federation, we’ll have made a world for little Mineva, Max, and Luna, where they have the time to do the same if they wish.”

“That’s the goal, isn’t it?” You find yourself agreeing easily, though your picture of an ideal world is probably quite a lot more complicated that Dozle’s - his thinking on Newtypes is still shaded heavily by Gihren. He probably isn’t thinking of Newtypes at all.

“So it is. Gihren wouldn’t agree. He never wants to stop, never takes time to let things rest.” Dozle frowns as he mutters the words, but eventually comes back around to a more intense and determined look, “That’s his strength. He does not lose sight of what we can make ours.”

“It can be a weakness just as easily.” Artesia is again the one to slide the blade in, something about her voice and kind smile making the half-insult go over easier, “These speeches he gives are provoking people too quickly, it isn’t controlled. He’s gambling with the future.”

Dozle grunts again in acknowledgement, popping the top off of one of the crystal decanters on his desk and pouring out a finger of dark liquid into a glass, “Everything in politics is a gamble. It’s beyond me.”

“But it can be controlled, prepared for, and built up to right until the moment that dice throw is necessary. You use weighted dice, if you’re not a fool.” Artesia continues, and understanding that you’re of the same mind on this you let her just go at it. It’s one of the subtler benefits of being newtypes, moments like this just happen on occasion. “Gihren’s only guiding the chaos around, hoping it rolls a face he’d like if he keeps slapping at it. A lot of people die every time he does. Children, Dozle.”
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>>5981681
>Spacenoids will forever mog you with newtype powers
Maybe if we ignore the fact that all of the strongest newtypes either came out of the Murasame Institute or were born on Earth.
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>>5982657

“...You have your mother’s heart.” Dozle’s shoulders slump, a lot of the anger he’s been holding in just melting away. For a moment you see a bit of Degwin’s tired old melancholy in him, but he’s far too young for such a look to settle for more than heartbeat. A sip of his drink banishes it entirely. “Would you like a drink?”

Drink?
>Yes
>No

Vote:
>”If we’re going to be activated then we’ll be working disaster relief, right? We could take out pods and some of the Mobile Workers to clear debris.” You happen to have a great deal of experience with both. A change of subject now that some seeds of doubt have been sown by Artesia.
>”...You know the Federation is using Guardian as a staging point for supplying their forces, don’t you? More than usual, the base is filled to capacity.” You’re trusting a lot in what Blare said earlier, but he’s reliable.
>”If a war did start, how’s the fleet looking? It’s been awhile since we’ve talked about it.” Dozle likes ships, you like ships, it’s an easy conversation even if there’s more tension around it than usual.
>Write-in.
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>>5982659
>No
Nothing good comes of Felix drinking.
>”If a war did start, how’s the fleet looking? It’s been awhile since we’ve talked about it.” Dozle likes ships, you like ships, it’s an easy conversation even if there’s more tension around it than usual. (1)
>”If we’re going to be activated then we’ll be working disaster relief, right? We could take out pods and some of the Mobile Workers to clear debris.” You happen to have a great deal of experience with both. A change of subject now that some seeds of doubt have been sown by Artesia. (2)
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>>5982659
>No
>”If we’re going to be activated then we’ll be working disaster relief, right? We could take out pods and some of the Mobile Workers to clear debris.” You happen to have a great deal of experience with both. A change of subject now that some seeds of doubt have been sown by Artesia.
Drink with Dadzle after this blows over.
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>>5982659
>No
>”If we’re going to be activated then we’ll be working disaster relief, right? We could take out pods and some of the Mobile Workers to clear debris.” You happen to have a great deal of experience with both. A change of subject now that some seeds of doubt have been sown by Artesia.
>”If a war did start, how’s the fleet looking? It’s been awhile since we’ve talked about it.” Dozle likes ships, you like ships, it’s an easy conversation even if there’s more tension around it than usual.
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>>5982659
>No
>”...You know the Federation is using Guardian as a staging point for supplying their forces, don’t you? More than usual, the base is filled to capacity.” You’re trusting a lot in what Blare said earlier, but he’s reliable.
I forget if this is accurate or not in canon.

>>5982658
Earthnoid cope.
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>>5982659
>No
>”...You know the Federation is using Guardian as a staging point for supplying their forces, don’t you? More than usual, the base is filled to capacity.” You’re trusting a lot in what Blare said earlier, but he’s reliable.
>>5982658
Kamille and Judau.
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>>5982680
>Kamille and Judau
Lalah and the Murasame Cybers.
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>>5982659
>No
>”If we’re going to be activated then we’ll be working disaster relief, right? We could take out pods and some of the Mobile Workers to clear debris.” You happen to have a great deal of experience with both. A change of subject now that some seeds of doubt have been sown by Artesia.
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One hour until voting closes.
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>>5982661 (2nd)
>>5982668
>>5983071
Activated. Wins, writing.

>>5982677
>>5982680
Staging point.

>>5982673
Activated+naval warfare talk.
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“I’ll pass for now,” You decline the offer of a drink, as does your sister, and continue to ponder the ongoing game of war chicken Gihren and the Federation seem to be playing. Neither wants a war to start now. Zeon and especially Riah aren’t ready, and the Federation is as fractured in its opinions as always. They’re only able to act with any unity when the situation forces it to stamp a boot down. As a Deikun-Zabi you have some influence, but even within Zeon it’s mostly your late father’s prestige that gets you things; you can’t really sway what’s going on short of putting a bullet in Gihren… Which you and Casval have both considered many times, but that would likely trigger a nasty civil war and a Federation intervention on unacceptably bad terms. Unable to think of any solutions save for pushing ahead, you continue with the conversation. “If we’re going to be activated then we’ll be working disaster relief, right? We could take out pods and some of the Mobile Workers to clear debris around that Banchi by Zum.”

“I was considering the same plan,” Dozle rumbles approvingly, “But you won’t be taking out Mobile Workers, it will be pods and shuttles only. We’ll have some of our more experienced pilots out in the Workers… You’re disappointed? Speak.”

“Yes, sir, I am.” You agree with a slight frown - you are disappointed, and don’t try to conceal it, but you still attempt to present your case as best you can, “Most of our class has qualified fully on the simulators, we could use the Workers to get more done than a pod. and it would do them all some good to get out and practice in the real thing. Caval, Vivima, and I are qualified to be flight leaders on everything but paper - I’ve even done it a few times out in Riah. There’s a training and propaganda opportunity here, we could come out of this looking stronger.”

Artesia adds on a little at the end, expanding on your point about propaganda, “Zeon’s united ruling family working with new technology to fix the mistakes of the federation - we’d be showing that we use our power for peace and the good of the Sides. The news stories write themselves.”

Dozle squints slightly as he thinks, as if he were watching the clean-up efforts even now, just very far off in the distance, “Mm. Perhaps there is a great opportunity here. This must be the kind of situation Gihren was hoping to create, I see now. …I will check if enough Mobile Workers can be mustered to outfit the more capable cadets.”

…That’s not the kind of situation he was hoping for at all, he’s too vicious to think like that - though of course he’ll take advantage of it, like everything and everyone else Gihren ever gets a hold of. Regardless, you’re glad to have gotten your idea through with Artesia’s help.
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>>5983163

10:15, 10th December UC 0077
Agriculture Colony 17 ‘Zepila’, Side Three (Republic of Zeon)


Slight shifts of the control pedals coax your Mobile Worker forward through the dark of space, moving carefully through the debris floating all around the silver length of the damaged agricultural colony. Dull metal plates scorched blac by the detonation of the federation cruiser float almost invisible across the sea of stars, barely perceptible save for when they block the light of distant suns, while shinier sections of silvered steel rotate ends over end, slowly traveling further and further from the point of impact. Much of the debris has already scattered far, but this patch is still thick and dense. Squinting through the glass of your helmet, you check your Mobile Worker’s visual scanner readout. There’s no sophisticated heads up display, just green blips on a three dimensional monochrome grid. You’ve worked with less before though, and can make enough sense to plot out the course ahead. A few more taps of your Worker’s thrusters send you silently to where you need to be, right alongside a huge support beam that was torn free.

Crawling closer by verniers only, you open up your worker’s heavy hand clamps and get them around the bar. A loud clang reverberates through the interior of the cockpit as you tap a button and send them shutting tight, noise traveling up through the metal of the Worker’s arms clamps and arms.

Though there weren’t enough Mobile Workers able to be scrounged up for everyone, enough were found to give to promising pilots. Tapping at your radio controls with a gloved hand, you call out the successful capture to the other pilots you’re working with…

>”Got another support beam, Viv. Get over here with that cutting beam.” Tryph is your third pilot, flying a collector pod to gather the chopped debris.
>”Got another beam, Cas. Come slice it up.” Garma is here too, flying a collector pod.
>”Got another big one, Tiff. Try not to shred it like confetti this time, okay?” Blare is here too, flying the collector pod.
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>>5983164
>”Got another support beam, Viv. Get over here with that cutting beam.” Tryph is your third pilot, flying a collector pod to gather the chopped debris.
Alright Anons, hear me out. We try and influence Vivima in a more positive way instead of just avoiding her.
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>>5983164
>”Got another support beam, Viv. Get over here with that cutting beam.” Tryph is your third pilot, flying a collector pod to gather the chopped debris.

>>5983172
Only way to do that is Un-gay her.
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>>5983177
>Only way to do that is Un-gay her.
We'll need a volunteer. Someone to take one for the team.
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>>5983164
Supporting >>5983172. We've been a bit too gun-shy when it comes to talking to her.
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>>5983164
>”Got another beam, Cas. Come slice it up.” Garma is here too, flying a collector pod.
We really haven't been interacting much with him.
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>>5983164
>”Got another beam, Cas. Come slice it up.” Garma is here too, flying a collector pod.

>>5983172
>We try and influence Vivima in a more positive way
We should be doing that with Cas more. It's crazy that we have hardly done anything with him compared to Artesia.
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>>5983205
I'm fine with Cas too, we really don't spend a lot of time with him. Saying that though we did put Tryph in a very precarious position by essentially being Viv's babysitter. And we've been outright avoiding her every time she comes up.
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>>5983164
>”Got another support beam, Viv. Get over here with that cutting beam.” Tryph is your third pilot, flying a collector pod to gather the chopped debris.

It's time to man up and face Vivima down. Allowing a potential powerful newtype to be stuck in Kycilia and Gihren's collective pocket is an unacceptable risk.
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>>5983164
1)
>”Got another big one, Tiff. Try not to shred it like confetti this time, okay?” Blare is here too, flying the collector pod.
He will die in the war almost guaranteed.
2)
>”Got another beam, Cas. Come slice it up.” Garma is here too, flying a collector pod.
Love me some Cas moments.

>>5983172
>influence Vivima
Bro we aren't gonna influence her, she will influence us. Felix just doesn't have the same willpower as she does, remember the ballroom?
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>>5983164
>”Got another beam, Cas. Come slice it up.” Garma is here too, flying a collector pod.

>>5983213
>we did put Tryph in a very precarious position by essentially being Viv's babysitter
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't we ask Tryphosa not to help Viv with her newtype awakening, but she still wanted to do it because of her beliefs about newtypes? I believe Tryph would be her "babysitter" either way.
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>>5983252
>Tryphosa not to help Viv with her newtype awakening
Did we? I don't remember, but I do remember encouraging her to try and sway Viv more to our side.
>>5983226
>she will influence us.
Alright, better idea. We stick her with Cas. Surely nothing bad would happen there.
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>>5983164
>”Got another beam, Cas. Come slice it up.” Garma is here too, flying a collector pod.

>>5983258
Maybe if Cas grows out his hair.
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One hour until voting closes.

For what it matters, Felix usually sees Casval once a week or more often for pod training, as well as in exercises at the academy. He hasn't been able to spend much free time with them outside of that, but they're all very intwined in each others lives. Tryphosa is around somewhat frequently, as are her sisters sometimes. There has been no great progress to speak of on making her sisters less nutso, and Viv still has the hots for Tryph.

>>5983274
>>5983258
Pretty sure that has been discussed before, or at least is has been indirectly. I'd have to go dig through the old threads, but I think it was right before the party where Felix got zero-g leg wrapped by Elena while they were both drunk as space skunks..
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>>5983294
>Pretty sure that has been discussed before
I was joking about setting her and Cas up. IIRC we told him to hold off on doing anything like that because we sort of found out about Lalah.
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>>5983294
>Felix got zero-g leg wrapped by Elena while they were both drunk as space skunks
I remember this. Did Felix really knock her up from that?
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>>5983164
1)
>”Got another beam, Cas. Come slice it up.” Garma is here too, flying a collector pod.
2)
>”Got another big one, Tiff. Try not to shred it like confetti this time, okay?” Blare is here too, flying the collector pod.
I think I'll go with this for now.
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>>5983314
I can't believe Lalah is going to be a Gundam pilot.
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>>5983164
>”Got another big one, Tiff. Try not to shred it like confetti this time, okay?” Blare is here too, flying the collector pod.
These two are funny and I'm still not fully convinced that Casval won't frag Vivima if the opportunity arises.

>>5983258
>Alright, better idea. We stick her with Cas
She's a little old for him. He either needs Lalah or maybe Haman if her father is already in charge of Axis.

>>5983319
inb4 everything is so butterflied that she's on Side 7 and instead of the RX-78-1 and RX-78-2 it's the RX-78-2 and the RX-78NT-1. Or worse Chlust Moses is there instead of Tem Ray.

Actually Contolist >>5983294, I know Flanagan is kicking around in his antisemitic caricature of an Origin portrayal, but is Dr. Moses still at the Flanagan Institute or has that body's new outlook driven him to Earth already?
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>>5983316
Yes.

>>5983314
Yes, Felix told him to hold out for the right person after getting a weird newtype feeling about it.

>>5983356
Moses is still there. For now. Marion is off somewhere living a normal life still. As for the RX-78NT-1, the feddies will need to find a different test pilot because Christina is currently in Riah's mobile suit corps and one of its most promising junior officers. She's up for selection as a test pilot at Zeonic.

>>5983172
>>5983177
>>5983189
>>5983222
Viv.

>>5983203
>>5983205
>>5983226 (2nd)
>>5983252
>>5983274
>>5983318
Cas. Wins, writing.

>>5983356
Tiff.
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>>5983226
Way I see things shaping up, we're either going to have to find some way to influence her, directly or otherwise, or we're going to end up having to kill her alongside Kycilia and Gihren.
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Hopefully we can help Cas become a better newtype while we are both flying.
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>>5983494
>Cas. Wins, writing.
Finally, a timeline where Casval always wins instead of one where he picks the underdog and loses even when he wins...

>As for the RX-78NT-1, the feddies will need to find a different test pilot because Christina is currently in Riah's mobile suit corps
If only there was another prominent Newtype pilot living on Earth. Hmm. Alternatively Tem Ray going full Gendo Ikari could be entertaining. Also at the very least there is an active Newtype lab on Earth, even if it is the worst one in existence for the time being. Pretty sure Felix & Co.'s more open and humanizing perspective on Newtypes will drive Moses off sooner rather than later, he didn't cause Marion's accident on purpose, but he's still very much fixated on cyber/forcibly evolved Newtypes or even just copying their abilities mechanically. Sort of a middle ground between Flanagan and Mursame.

I'll stop analyzing literally nothing though, I hate when anons do that.

Also I swear I didn't know Haman was currently only 11 years old officer, that was a mistake.
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>>5983593
>11 years old
Like most Origin timeline characters she is slightly older, so she'd be thirteen currently.
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“Got another beam, Cas.” You speak through your helmet’s radio, close enough still to Casval and Garma that they should be able to easily pick up the transmission even with so much debris and a low Minovsky count filling the void, “Come slice it up.”

Your brother’s red Mobile Worker - somehow he managed to get a red one - jets suddenly into view in front of you, coming up from below with its cutting torch already burning white hot. In a flash he’s at work chopping up the beam into fourths, quick sweeps to either side of your worker’s shut clamps cutting off even lengths of the twisted girder. He’s been trying to set a new record the whole flight, working faster and faster - there’s nothing wrong with a good work ethic, quite the opposite in fact, but you know he’s just doing it because he wants his name at the top of the Mobile Worker time records. He didn't even know records were kept until a few hours ago. Oh, Casval.

“...Thirteen that time, shaved off half a second.” Casval’s proud voice sounds through your helmet’s speaker, “Garma, we have more for the basket.”

While you wait for Garma to maneuver the comparatively sluggish salvage pod into position nearby, bumping and scraping into a few smaller pieces of debris and the bulbous craft presses forward, you round up the cut girder sections. With precision born from countless hours of practice, you manipulate the control levers of your mobile worker, thumbs carefully leaning the smaller side joysticks, until you have two cut girder sections held tightly in each clamp, perfectly in line with one another. Is it necessary to be so precise? Not at all, but it’s fun. Casval can’t be the only one showing off.

Garma’s pod is finally close enough, and you open one of the larger hatches on the simple cargo section attached to it and carefully lower the cut girders inside. Securing non-ferrous scrap is a trickier ordeal, but steel beams like these clamp right down onto magplates and are locked safely away for disposal elsewhere.

“...One down, several hundred to go…” Garma grumbles over the radio, unhappy with the cleanup detail - he’s cut out most of his complaining by now, but you know he doesn’t get the same joy from flying that you and Casval do, or Vivima or even Artesia for that matter. Not such mundane flying at least, put him in command of a ship and he’d probably be perfectly content, for a few weeks anyways. “Just how much of a mess can one exploding cruiser make? I keep getting frozen cabbage hitting the viewscreen.”
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>>5983795

“I could cook some of it, if you’d prefer.” Casval flares the cutting torches at the end of his Mobile Worker’s arms to life, jets burning bright in the dark of space. You’re already scouting out the next heavy beam to cut up, working through the debris by type - these steel girders are the most dangerous to larger ships and will rip right through collector nets, not of the debris is moving at quite the same speed and it only takes the slightest difference to cause serious damage with masses this large.

“Ha, I’ll pass! I saw how you made your meal last exercise.” Garma laughs at your brother’s suggestion, the three of you already moving onto the next beam. Clamp, cut, stow - though mundane, it requires careful attention. The Mobile Workers aren’t at too great a risk from the debris, these ones are converted first production run Zaku and still have most of their super hardened steel armor. Garma's pod is reinforced, but still delicate in comparison. At times you have to help shepherd away torn plates and other scrap floating nearby so he can pass by it safely.

As you work, far off in the distance a pair of blue Federation Salamis-class cruisers are silhouetted against the inky black. There are even more further out, little lights burning in the dark as they move by distant silver cylinders you know to be the next closest Banchi of Side Three. One of those is Zum, just barely in sight - focusing your worker’s optics to their fullest, though limited, extent, you can see a haze of light around the closed-type colony’s spaceport. There must be a dozen Federation ships there.

“I don’t like them watching us like this.” You say over the radio to your brother and Garma while storing another pair of chopped beam sections in the pod’s bulky add-on cargo bay, “There was only one there half an hour ago.”

“...I hadn’t noticed. When did the second one arrive?” Garma questions. The maneuvering thrusters on his pod puff as he brings the cumbersome craft into a slow spin to face the ships and get a better view. Casval’s red Worker burns up alongside you as well, coming to a sudden stop.

“Ten minutes ago.” You answer, squinting as you examine the silhouettes of the cruisers - there's something off. “...Would you look at that - they’re different variants. The second one is newer, they put in a new point defense gun to cover the blind spot.”

“That won’t be enough to mean anything.” Casval doesn’t sound worried, “It’s a gesture to make themselves feel like they’re keeping up.”
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>>5983796

“Someone is taking small vessels more seriously if they’re making those changes…” Your words taper off to nothing as you consider the odd vessel further, noting more oddities about its hull shape, “It has an expanded hangar bay as well, I bet they can fit another pair of saberfish in there. …Someone is definitely paying attention.”

“I haven’t heard anything about a fleet rearmament,” Garma sounds more confused than worried, clearly not taking it all that seriously either, “Shouldn’t we have heard of it if they were doing something like refitting their cruisers?”

“It might be a one off, they experiment just as much as we do… Usually it doesn’t make it out into field use though.” It doesn’t sit well with you. Revil might be pushing through design refits, or perhaps it was one of his more competent staff that’ve replaced some of the purged Federation commanders.

“Want to take a closer look?” Your brother asks in a mischievous tone.

>”I do… but we shouldn’t. They might get jumpy.” There are vessels broadcasting parts of your cleanup operation across the Side - Federation news mostly, but Kycilia and Gihren managed to get their own propagandists out as well despite the Federation crackdown.
>”...Let’s drop off the salvage first, we’ll swing by them on the way to another debris field.” It’s a good chance to get a closer look at the Federation’s newest ship upgrades, whether it’s a one off or not. You’re too curious to miss the chance.
>”...I have a better idea. It will piss them off, but I think they deserve it after causing this.” Once the scrap is dropped off, Garma’s pod will be loaded with frozen produce. It will then be accelerated to high speeds by its thrusters and the mobile workers, the cargo bay will be opened, and you will all burn hard in reverse. This will effectively launch several tons of frozen cabbage at the new Federation ship’s bridge at high speeds.
>Write-in.
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>>5983798
>”...Let’s drop off the salvage first, we’ll swing by them on the way to another debris field.” It’s a good chance to get a closer look at the Federation’s newest ship upgrades, whether it’s a one off or not. You’re too curious to miss the chance.
Info is always good.
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>>5983798
>”...Let’s drop off the salvage first, we’ll swing by them on the way to another debris field.” It’s a good chance to get a closer look at the Federation’s newest ship upgrades, whether it’s a one off or not. You’re too curious to miss the chance.
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>>5983798
>”...Let’s drop off the salvage first, we’ll swing by them on the way to another debris field.” It’s a good chance to get a closer look at the Federation’s newest ship upgrades, whether it’s a one off or not. You’re too curious to miss the chance.
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>>5983798
>>”...Let’s drop off the salvage first, we’ll swing by them on the way to another debris field.” It’s a good chance to get a closer look at the Federation’s newest ship upgrades, whether it’s a one off or not. You’re too curious to miss the chance.
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If we swing by, we should match the speed of garma's pod to slowly look at the ship.

Though i'm tempted to Top Gun and Buzz its bridge.
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>>5983694
Speaking of Haman where exactly is Axis before the Gryps conflict? It seems like it's on the edge of the Earth Sphere (outside of the Moon's orbit) but some statements put it outside the Earth Sphere, presumably in a co-orbital configuration with Earth.
>>5983795
>somehow he managed to get a red one
Red makes your kicks stronger.
>>5983798
>”...Let’s drop off the salvage first, we’ll swing by them on the way to another debris field.” It’s a good chance to get a closer look at the Federation’s newest ship upgrades, whether it’s a one off or not. You’re too curious to miss the chance.
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>>5983816
Axis is out in the asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter, well outside of the Earth Sphere. A lot of Zeon's fleet production is taking place out there, especially for the heaviest ship classes. Dozle knows much more and is heavily involved in fleet planning, Mink (currently with Elena) knows a surprising amount about the belt generally since asteroid mining and construction is her family's business, and Tryphosa has general knowledge of humanity's more remote settlements. Viv would know a fair amount as well, Axis recently got its mobile suit production into full swing and integrated her unified production standards.
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>>5983798
>”...Let’s drop off the salvage first, we’ll swing by them on the way to another debris field.” It’s a good chance to get a closer look at the Federation’s newest ship upgrades, whether it’s a one off or not. You’re too curious to miss the chance.
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>>5983798
>”...I have a better idea. It will piss them off, but I think they deserve it after causing this.” Once the scrap is dropped off, Garma’s pod will be loaded with frozen produce. It will then be accelerated to high speeds by its thrusters and the mobile workers, the cargo bay will be opened, and you will all burn hard in reverse. This will effectively launch several tons of frozen cabbage at the new Federation ship’s bridge at high speeds.
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If Tiff were here you just know she'd be gunning for throwing shit at the Feddies. Frozen vegetables. Frozen fruit. COLONIES!

Voting will remain open until the morning.
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>>5983798
>>”...Let’s drop off the salvage first, we’ll swing by them on the way to another debris field.” It’s a good chance to get a closer look at the Federation’s newest ship upgrades, whether it’s a one off or not. You’re too curious to miss the chance.
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One hour until voting closes.
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>>5984006
>>5983858
>>5983816
>>5983806
>>5983804
>>5983802
>>5983800
Drop off and fly by. Wins, writing.

>>5983879
Cabbage cannon.
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>>5984002
>spoiler
Tiff is based confirmed?
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>>5984242
Yeah but we already knew that. zeon womb tattoo
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“...Let’s drop off the salvage first,” You reply over your helmet’s radio, turning your head slightly to check one of the readout screens and confirm you current coolant levels; still plenty of operating time left, “We’ll swing by them on the way to another debris field.”

“How close will we go?” Garma asks, his voice crackling a little more for a moment, the mild Minovsky interference growing somewhat rougher, “My pod is slow, even with the container empty.”

“As close as we can. They won’t fire.” Your brother answers confidently, “Would you prefer we push you, Garma? That would get you past them faster.”

“I’m not afraid of them,” Garma replies somewhat indignantly, “I’ll show you, Casval - I’ll go right past their bridge.”

“Felix, you heard Garma’s plan - Right past the bridge. You can swing below to see that new cannon - How’s that for a look?” Casval asks you. You can tell your brother is already enjoying this, and even find yourself smiling.

“Make sure to wave as you pass, Garma, they might want to take photos.” You laugh, thinking of the panicked bridge crew trying to figure out what to do about the three of you getting so close. It’s a military vessel, so you’d normally be wary of it firing out of self-defense, you do have clamps and cutters that could severely damage it if you got into a blind spot, but with news cameras watching from far off and your presence here widely known, you doubt they’d do anything half so brash. Maybe scramble a Saberfish or two to escort you past at the absolute most.

The scrap drop off back at the colony’s damaged spaceport goes by quickly and without any hitches, a quick stop inside one of its massive vacuum hangars and other soldiers of Zeon’s defense forces - combat engineers and logistics workers in normal suits - quickly swarm to unload everything and do quick maintenance checks on all three of your vessels. You’re back out in open space in just a few minutes, burning along a path charted by Casval which will take you extremely close to the upgraded Salamis’ bridge. Garma speaks over the radio, broadcasting a warning to the Federation of your flight path and requesting them to clear the way - which you all know they won’t - but you aren’t paying attention to the specific words. Your mind is both within the cockpit of your Mobile Worker, and elsewhere for a time, drifting out across the black of space to reach toward Tryphosa. You soon find her comforting presence in the dark; there is no exchange of words, but you can understand at once she is working and everything is alright on the far side of the colony. Good. Retreating back to a single awareness, you continue checking over the instruments within the cockpit, keeping a close eye on the three dimensional map of debris being charted on one screen. Lots of micro debris for magnets to grab after you’re done with the larger pieces, nothing dangerous.
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>>5984267

The pair of Salamis-class cruisers grow quickly on your Worker’s forward view screens, slowly growing to fill the center screen, and then to stretch around to the two angled peripheral ones, parts of the image blocked by the bevel between screens. …A more seamless cockpit would be a great aid.

“...Reroute immediately…” You listen close to the Federation chatter directed back at Garma, but it’s little more than what you expected, ”...Or will be forced to intercept your craft…

The cruisers grow closer still, and you can see clearly as a pair of Saberfish fighters slide smoothly out from the expanded hangar bay bulging oddly from the upgraded one’s underside. That’s a fast launch, they were ready for this. White puffs fire from their maneuvering thrusters as they bring their noses - and weapons - about to face your approaching flight.

“...say …again, Athens?” Garma’s voice is breaking up, and for a moment you think he’s faking the interference - but no, it isn’t a humorous fake radio error, the Minovsky count near the upgraded Salamis, the Athens, is rapidly increasing.

>“Howdy! Lovely day for flight, isn’t it?” Flip on your laser comms and manually track the intercepting Saberfish, talk to their pilots. How they respond might clue you into their intentions.
>Reach out across the void of space and try to feel the intent of the pilots and bridge crew - are they merely posturing, or actually dumb enough to try something?
>Just focus on your flying and keep your Worker’s cameras trained on points of interest - swing low, as planned, and take a look at the new point defenses and expanded hangar. There’s no chance these Feddies will try something.
>Write-in.
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>>5984268
>Reach out across the void of space and try to feel the intent of the pilots and bridge crew - are they merely posturing, or actually dumb enough to try something?
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>>5984268
1)
>“Howdy! Lovely day for flight, isn’t it?” Flip on your laser comms and manually track the intercepting Saberfish, talk to their pilots. How they respond might clue you into their intentions.
>Reach out across the void of space and try to feel the intent of the pilots and bridge crew - are they merely posturing, or actually dumb enough to try something?
2)
>Reach out across the void of space and try to feel the intent of the pilots and bridge crew - are they merely posturing, or actually dumb enough to try something?
3)
>“Howdy! Lovely day for flight, isn’t it?” Flip on your laser comms and manually track the intercepting Saberfish, talk to their pilots. How they respond might clue you into their intentions.
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>>5984268
>“Howdy! Lovely day for flight, isn’t it?” Flip on your laser comms and manually track the intercepting Saberfish, talk to their pilots. How they respond might clue you into their intentions.
>Reach out across the void of space and try to feel the intent of the pilots and bridge crew - are they merely posturing, or actually dumb enough to try something?
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>>5984268
>Just focus on your flying and keep your Worker’s cameras trained on points of interest - swing low, as planned, and take a look at the new point defenses and expanded hangar. There’s no chance these Feddies will try something.
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>>5984268
>Just focus on your flying and keep your Worker’s cameras trained on points of interest - swing low, as planned, and take a look at the new point defenses and expanded hangar. There’s no chance these Feddies will try something.
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>>5984268
>Just focus on your flying and keep your Worker’s cameras trained on points of interest - swing low, as planned, and take a look at the new point defenses and expanded hangar. There’s no chance these Feddies will try something.
>“Howdy! Lovely day for flight, isn’t it?” Flip on your laser comms and manually track the intercepting Saberfish, talk to their pilots. How they respond might clue you into their intentions.


The Salamis minovsky count is increasing, Oh? thats a neat little suprise.
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One hour until voting closes.
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>>5984268
>>“Howdy! Lovely day for flight, isn’t it?” Flip on your laser comms and manually track the intercepting Saberfish, talk to their pilots. How they respond might clue you into their intentions.
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>>5984268
>“Howdy! Lovely day for flight, isn’t it?” Flip on your laser comms and manually track the intercepting Saberfish, talk to their pilots. How they respond might clue you into their intentions.
>Reach out across the void of space and try to feel the intent of the pilots and bridge crew - are they merely posturing, or actually dumb enough to try something?
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>>5984269
Reach out.

>>5984274
>>5984279
>>5984350
>>5984431 (late but I'll take it since I was busy)
Howdy+Reach out. Wins, writing.

>>5984288
>>5984298
Focus.

>>5984398
Howdy.
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Toggling on your laser comms with the flip of a switch, you coax the Worker-converted Zaku’s annoyingly touchy broadcast laser into position. Minovsky particles still distort visible light enough to baffle optical targeting systems and laser receivers, especially as densities get very high, but carefully directed line of sight based laser communication is mostly reliable at short to medium ranges. After a moment of fiddling with the control you get a steady track on the slowly approaching Saberfish, and auto-tracking takes over after another second. If they were moving at full speed then the computer couldn’t auto-track them like this, especially not two targets with micro debris all around and an increasing Minovsky count from the Salamis.

“Howdy! Lovely day for a flight, isn’t it?” You greet them cheerily - no one else can hear your conversation. Even before you get a response, you’re extending your awareness out beyond the confines of your Mobile Worker’s cockpit and into the void of space, the colors of human thought flowing distorted and difficult to interpret across the dark.

“Republic of Zeon Mobile Worker, alter your flight path…” Blah blah blah, that one’s no fun. There’s very little in the way of color in the space around his Saberfish either, very little or no newtype potential. You mute him and try the other pilot instead, letting Casval and Garma bicker with Mr. No-Nonsense and the Athens bridge crew. The other Saberfish is the flight leader anyway, you’re likely to get a better feel from them.

“Howdy!” You greet again, “Partner there’s a bit of a stick in the mud, isn’t he? We’re just trying to fly through here, clean up this mess.”

“And you thought buzzing a cruiser was the best path to debris? Idiot.” A woman’s voice snaps back immediately, haughty and a bit annoyed.

“It was the quickest route. We’re on the same side here, aren’t we?’ You ask innocently, able to feel at once that there’s something more about this pilot - far from a newtype, but still leaving faint streaks of color you can begin to perceive in the void of space. Odd reds and blues, all cold.

She doesn’t buy it, and the Saberfish are now nearly on top of you, “Don’t kid yourself. Change course immediately.”

“You’re not here for disaster relief? What else would the Federation be doing here?” You question, not making no attempt to hide that you’re messing with her. This interception is probably nothing more than an intimidation display, meant to send you cowering away.

“Of course we are, and you’re interfering.” Her response is immediate, voice raising slightly - still at a level speaking voice though. The Saberfish pass overhead now, and then flip about with puffs of their maneuvering thrusters and burn hard to reverse course and follow alongside Casval, Garma, and you.
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>>5984493

“By cleaning up debris?” You poke again, know it’s not what the Salamis are doing at all. They’re not equipped to handle anything like this scale of a cleanup operation, only useful for battlefield recoveries of crew and supplies from other damaged ships, not gigantic pieces of metal debris.

“By flying within the self-protection radius of a warship!” As she speaks you feel the space around you grow colder, an icy chill radiating out as you perceive a blue so dark it begins to fade into the black of space, red flickering about it in a malevolent aura, “We’re authorized to use force if you don’t divert immediately. And yeah, I know who you spoiled brats are - stop screwing around and go clean up somewhere closer to the colony, or I’ll turn you into debris.”

Some people just don’t know when to stop running their mouth… And sometimes you’re one of them.

>”Sorry, I think the signal is breaking up, I’m getting a lot of bullshit from your end.” Cut the comms and just keep flying, she’s angry but there’s no way the Feddies are dumb enough to fire on the three of you.
>”Force? Well now, if it’s going to be like that, then don’t miss - you won’t get a second burst.” These pilots don’t seem to understand that by flying alongside they’ve put themselves well within range of getting clawed in half. These Workers are converted Zakus, but they’re still armored to resist light autocannon fire and have all the usual thrusters and verniers.
>”What’s your name, pilot? If you know mine, it’s only fair.” Nah, you’re not going to accept the escalation. You’re flying forward, and you’ll be cordial but stubborn.
>Write-in.
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>>5984495
>”Sorry, I think the signal is breaking up, I’m getting a lot of bullshit from your end.” Cut the comms and just keep flying, she’s angry but there’s no way the Feddies are dumb enough to fire on the three of you.
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>>5984495
>”What’s your name, pilot? If you know mine, it’s only fair.” Nah, you’re not going to accept the escalation. You’re flying forward, and you’ll be cordial but stubborn.
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>>5984495
>>”What’s your name, pilot? If you know mine, it’s only fair.” Nah, you’re not going to accept the escalation. You’re flying forward, and you’ll be cordial but stubborn.

Can we angle a laser at the reporters craft so we can stream the voice data to them.

Just keep her talking.
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>>5984506
You can, though it wouldn't be a great link. They're much further away, so the debris and Minovsky particles have more time to screw with the beam. It still would probably get most of it through though.
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>>5984522
Lets do it. And visually signal to our fellows we're going on air.
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>>5984495
>”Force? Well now, if it’s going to be like that, then don’t miss - you won’t get a second burst.” These pilots don’t seem to understand that by flying alongside they’ve put themselves well within range of getting clawed in half. These Workers are converted Zakus, but they’re still armored to resist light autocannon fire and have all the usual thrusters and verniers.
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>>5984495
>>”What’s your name, pilot? If you know mine, it’s only fair.” Nah, you’re not going to accept the escalation. You’re flying forward, and you’ll be cordial but stubborn.
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>>5984506
I'll support this

Yes I know I am playing right into the Zabis hands.
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>>5984495
>”What’s your name, pilot? If you know mine, it’s only fair.” Nah, you’re not going to accept the escalation. You’re flying forward, and you’ll be cordial but stubborn.
But I'd rather not stream it or go on air since it's what the Zabis would want.
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Voting will remain open until the morning.
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>>5984495
>”What’s your name, pilot? If you know mine, it’s only fair.” Nah, you’re not going to accept the escalation. You’re flying forward, and you’ll be cordial but stubborn.
>>5984506
Supporting the laser to the news crew.

I do not like that Felix convinced Revil to tryhard in office politics. The vote might have just made the OYW harder on us. So better to avoid the second vote, if we win a fight here it might just cause the feddies to take zeon more seriosly as a military threat and prepare more.
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One hour until voting closes.
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>>5984495
>>5984674
+1
Don't escalate the situation, don't do a Gihren when we're not ready for it.
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>>5984497
Bullshit beam.

>>5984551
This pilot clearly doesn't realize they're within clawing and (Casval's) kicking range.

>>5984505
>>5984506
>>5984629
>>5984656
>>5984779
>>5984674
>>5984922
Ask for their name, keep flying. Wins, but I won't start writing yet.

Mini-vote: Will you also try to broadcast the conversation to nearby news vessels? The beam connection will be spotty, but a lot of it would get through still.
>Yes.
>No.
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>>5984950
>Yes.
It's good insurance
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>>5984950
>No.
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>>5984950
>No.
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I'll give the mini-vote another hour.
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>>5984950
>No.
Let's not escalate this too far, that plays into Gihren's hands.
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>>5984960
>>5984968
>>5985236
No broadcast then, I'll get to writing.
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The update is coming along nicely, should have time to finish it up later tonight.
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“What’s your name, pilot? If you know mine then it’s only fair I know yours.” You keep your cool, choosing not to meet aggression with any more than you’re already showing - flying right past their ship is aggressive, harsher words would just add gas to an already lit flame.

“Pahlavi.” The female pilot replies at once, ”Captain Pahlavi. Which one are you?”

“Which one?” You almost feel a little offended being talked about like that, but you understand the question nonetheless - and you’re still moving forward, closer and closer to the cruiser. Soon it will be too late to meaningfully divert you, all this Federation posturing will amount to nothing and you’ll get a nice long look at the modified underside of the Athens, “My, that’s a way to ask, isn’t it?”

Pahlavi’s response comes back a bit amused, but increasingly annoyed, “One of the Deikuns, or the Zabi?”

“Felix Zos Deikun.” You answer with a smirk, not that she can see it, and decide to engage in a bit of banter. Just a few more seconds… “Do you have a first name, Captain Pahlavi? Pahlavi’s a very regal surname for a fighter pilot - Any relation?”

The answer you receive is a derisive snort, as if you’d asked her if she was part unicorn or something equally absurd, “Hah, maybe a long, long time ago - You’re not going to distract me with talk, cowboy, or get my name. Divert immediately.”

“Ah, hell. Can’t blame a guy for trying, can you?” You’ve got her now, you’re almost under the cruiser and none of its guns nor the fighters have opened up - this really must just by a bluff. There is anger in the space around you, but moreso a boiling frustration - no killing intent… it’s difficult to be sure though, your newtype awareness isn’t just some mind reading radar, far from it, and even after years you still struggle to use it willfully. There are no creeping feelings or flashes of warning insight though, so you’re confident - and the bottom of the ship is ever closer.

“No, but I can shoot you down for it.” Pahlavi growls back, and laser warning receivers begin to beep frantically in your ear as the Worker’s remaining defensive sensors pick up that you’re being targeted - normally even a beam riding weapon would suffer terrible inaccuracy in this level of Minovsky interference, but the Saberfish is at most a few dozen meters away, practically in spitting distance, and there’s no need for the laser besides intimidation, “Divert immediately, this is your final warning!”

“Now that’s a very serious threat, Captain Pahlavi.” Your voice grows a touch colder, harsh experience bleeding through, memories of burning guntanks and showers of flame high above Von Braun playing in your mind’s eye - the faces of soldiers in the villa, of the assassins at the announcement, all the men you’ve killed, “Have you ever shot down another pilot before?”
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>>5985515

Silence fills the air for a full second, and Pahlavi’s missed her chance - if she fires now she’ll be strafing the more vulnerable underside of the Salamis, you’re coming right up under it while Garma and Casval are splitting off to go above, pursued by the other fighter.

“Because I don’t think you’re going to cross that line today - not with us.” You continue, certain she won’t be trying a damned thing. Shifting the camera controls, you light up the Worker’s primary sensor to begin gathering as much footage of the Salamis’ converted underside as possible.

“I have a lock on you.”

“I heard the receivers.” You laugh.

Pahlavi scoffs, “That peacock of a pod has warning receivers?”

Peacock of a pod? Damn, Federation pilots really don’t understand mobile suits, Worker or not, if she’s thinking of it as just a pod with arms and legs - they’re fundamentally different from the ground up, AMBAC is a hell of a game changer, and it’s simply more intuitive than a pod could ever be, “...If you were going to shoot, you’d have done it by now.”

A burst of autocannon tracer streams off to the side of your left peripheral screen’s view, the bright shells slipping silently off into space. You laugh harder, now you know for certain there’s no teeth to any of this - Pahlavi’s bolder than the average Feddie, so you keep a little wary of her, but if she must have orders to not fire on you. That many warnings and then a warning shot? No, that’s just not how an intercept like this works when it’s serious, the rear of your Worker should be thoroughly dented up - or ventilated - with autocannon fire now.

>”Mind if I take some photos? You can pull up in front and wave if you want.” Take your time, get a nice full picture of all these modifications.
>”So how do you like the Saberfish? I flew one of the old stealth variants of it a few years back, handled like a dream. Kind of a shame all those angles and black paint don’t mean anything anymore, isn’t it?” Not only do you not take this interception seriously, you’re going to make small talk while you gather your footage of the ship.
>Nah, you’re done talking now - the yapping worked as a distraction and you’re not sensing anything worse coming, just do the job and then go clear debris in the next field.
>Write-in.
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>>5985518
>”So how do you like the Saberfish? I flew one of the old stealth variants of it a few years back, handled like a dream. Kind of a shame all those angles and black paint don’t mean anything anymore, isn’t it?” Not only do you not take this interception seriously, you’re going to make small talk while you gather your footage of the ship.
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>>5985518
>”So how do you like the Saberfish? I flew one of the old stealth variants of it a few years back, handled like a dream. Kind of a shame all those angles and black paint don’t mean anything anymore, isn’t it?” Not only do you not take this interception seriously, you’re going to make small talk while you gather your footage of the ship.
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>>5985518
>”So how do you like the Saberfish? I flew one of the old stealth variants of it a few years back, handled like a dream. Kind of a shame all those angles and black paint don’t mean anything anymore, isn’t it?” Not only do you not take this interception seriously, you’re going to make small talk while you gather your footage of the ship.
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>>5985518
>>”So how do you like the Saberfish? I flew one of the old stealth variants of it a few years back, handled like a dream. Kind of a shame all those angles and black paint don’t mean anything anymore, isn’t it?” Not only do you not take this interception seriously, you’re going to make small talk while you gather your footage of the ship.
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>>5985518
>”So how do you like the Saberfish? I flew one of the old stealth variants of it a few years back, handled like a dream. Kind of a shame all those angles and black paint don’t mean anything anymore, isn’t it?” Not only do you not take this interception seriously, you’re going to make small talk while you gather your footage of the ship.
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Two more hours to vote.
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>>5985535
>>5985541
>>5985544
>>5985613
>>5985641
Writing.
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“So how do you like the Saberfish?” You ask casually, Pahlavi’s warning burst failing to ruffle your feathers, “I flew one of the old stealth variants of it a few years back, handled like a dream. Shame all those angles and black paint don’t mean anything anymore, isn’t it?”

“Divert immediately!” Pahlavi gives out a final exasperated warning, but you both know it’s far too late now.

“I’m already under the ship.” You chuckle while keeping the converted Zaku’s main camera trained on the expanded hangar bay as you pass by it, glimpsing the cramped interior for a few seconds - there are four more Saberfish in there, two more than you’d expected, someone figured out a pretty ingenious way to stack their catapults but it looks like a nightmare to rearm with all that junk in the way. “Come on, you’ve got to have an opinion about the bird you’re flying.”

“How do you feel about that flying forklift?” Pahlavi’s angry, which just makes you laugh harder - you don’t transmit that though, goading a furious woman with an autocannon isn’t the smartest thing you’ve ever done, and everyone has their limits.

“Think it’s pretty swell for a conversion, the claws throw it off balance slightly but it’s manageable. Come on, thoughts on your fighter; how’d you rate it?”

“...It’s fine.” Pahlavi’s saberfish flares its main engines for a moment and thrusts forward to block your view of the Salamis’ underside and new defenses, but it’s mostly too late for that kind of direct obstruction - the video won’t untake itself, you’ve got what you wanted.

Fine? Just fine? Flown something else besides the trainer version?” You ask, now on the far side of the cruiser and quite pleased with the footage you’ve made off with before getting blocked.

“...I fly racers usually.” She sounds defeated, and you can feel the resignation emanating across space from her fighter, that cold blues and angry red both guttering out, “You flew a Saberfish a few years ago? Aren’t you only like… seventeen, or something?”

“Eighteen, and it was in Von Braun City, on Luna.” You see no reason not to tell the truth, censored slightly, especially since you doubt she’ll believe it for a second, “The Federation sold it to be scrapped, but Spacenoids are used to working with scraps from earth; we got it flying in no time.”
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>>5985979

“Cut it with the Spacenoid ingenuity spiel. You really buy into that Gihrenist crap?” Pahlavi’s saberfish emits more maneuvering puffs and spins about, ending up beside your Worker as Casval and Garma rejoin the flight path from the top side of the Athens, the other Saberfish flying alongside them, “...Command said we’re to escort you out to your next debris field.”

“I appreciate the gesture.” You try not to laugh further, and take the pilot’s question about ‘Gihrenism’ as seriously as you always do - it’s a despicable perversion of your father's legacy, but one you’re having to learn to work around to get things done. For now. “I’m traveling the path my father foresaw, nothing less.”

“What, to some age of ‘Newtypes’ that solves everyone’s problems?” Pahlavi scoffs. That’s precisely what your intentions are, though stating it so bluntly does make it sound ridiculous - but any idea can be made to sound absurd with the right, or rather wrong, rhetoric.

“Have you ever read any of my father’s books, Captain Pahlavi, or have you only heard about his ideas second hand?” You ask while making the long burn toward the far off debris field - It was the best one to get a path past the pair of cruisers, but it puts you about a quarter of the way out to the nearest undamaged Banchi.

“No, why waste my time with some dead guy’s books?”

…You choose to ignore your father being addressed as ‘some dead guy’, and ask a simple question instead, “Do you love flying, Captain? What led you to be a pilot?”

There’s a delay before the response comes through over your helmet’s speaker, “...I do. There’s nothing quite like open space and a lot of zeroes of delta-v to burn off.”

“Then I think if you approach my father’s books with an open mind, you might find something of interest in them. They aren’t just for Spacenoids, he addressed all of mankind…”
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>>5985980

The next few minutes pass by quickly, Pahlavi proving to be more receptive to your words than you’d expected, though you doubt you’ve really convinced her of anything. People tend to convince themselves, but maybe you’ve given her the nudge she’ll need to look into things herself. Once you’ve reached the debris fields, the two ‘escorting’ Saberfish peel off and head back to the Salamis, where you suspect Pahlavi is either going to get chewed out for firing her Saberfish’s guns while in view of news cameras, ro a pat on the back - really depends on the commander and their outlook.

Setting back to cleaning up debris, time passes quickly, and soon Garma’s pod is fully loaded again. The pair of Salamis have moved, and the debris field was drifting regardless, so you won’t be going past the ships again on the way back. What you will be going past is a Federation troop transport that is… you run a course calculation quickly… heading for Zum.

“I don’t like the look of that, it’s coming from Guardian.” Casval’s voice crackles through over the radio, most of the Minovsky interference having cleared now that the two cruisers aren’t dumping the gremlin-esque particles all over nearby space, “...And heading to Zum.”

“More Federation soldiers?” Garma asks, flipping his pod about slowly to get a better view of the bulbous ship. It’s a converted cargo vessel with a reinforced hull, one of the Federations countless support vessels of various types that have accumulated over the long decades - you don’t know the class name, but you know what it is.

“That’s a heavy transport. Tanks, guntanks, APCs - nothing good for riot control.” You set your Zaku’s monoeye to track the vessel, the main screen of your cockpit suddenly filled with the vessel as it zooms in upon it. Bendigo. The name means nothing to you, probably some place on Earth barely anyone knows exists. “There’s going to be more blood in the streets. Hundreds dead with that kind of firepower, thousands if they keep sending more - I don’t think anyone is going to back down, they’re going to turn half of Zum into a battlefield at this rate.”
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>>5985981

“...We can’t let them keep getting away with it.” Casval’s voice is chillingly calm, you’ve heard him like this before when he’s talking about the Zabis, but rarely the Federation, “Something has to be done.”

“My father and Gihren are handling it.” Garma replies nervously - he’s been around Casval for long enough, and in enough field exercises, to recognize that tone as well, “What else can we do?”

“We can act, we’ll follow through with the plan we discussed at the academy.” Casval replies immediately, “The Federation is sending those tanks to kill our people - they’re defenseless if the Federation is giving up on peace entirely. We have to remind them that we’re not weak anymore.”

“They think we’re just here for decoration.” You find yourself feeling quite a lot like Pahlavi must have earlier when you ignored her interception - The Federation thinks of the entire Zeon Defense Force like that, they must. Or at least enough of the generals do; you have reason to believe Revil knows better, he left quite the impression even with a brief meeting. “What are you proposing?”

“We finish this cleanup today,” Casval answers, “And request Dozle deactivate our unit. Once the order goes through and we’re cadets again, we raid the armories and motor pool at the academy - at dawn, we take the space port and capture the Federation officers there.”

…Things were bound to come to a choice like this someday.

>[COMMENCE THE DAWN REBELLION]. There will be a brief planning step, adjustments can be made.
>[TRY TO STOP CASVAL]. Through talk, or an alternative plan.
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>>5985983
Oof, this is gonna be a hard one. Feddies are already mobilized and suppressing the riot but the students are also already prepped for a fight. On one had it'll help galvanize our people against the federation, on the other it could spiral out of control and kick off the OYW before we're really ready. And I doubt it'll be strictly
>[COMMENCE THE DAWN REBELLION].
Fuck it, game time boys.
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>>5985983
>[TRY TO STOP CASVAL]
>Suggest that instead of taking the offensive, we put ourselves in a self-defense situation. Something that's truly damning to the Federation as a whole and gives us reason to demand more Spacenoid freedom.
Given how Feddies like Pahlavi are around, I don't think it's impossible to find something or have the Federation overstep.
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>>5985983
>[TRY TO STOP CASVAL].
Talk to him, it's still too early and we're trying to stay out of Gihren's way specifically. Doing this would both be seen as stepping on his toes and it might even piss off Degwin if he thinks that this runs counter to his interests.
And I might be jumping the gun or thinking too far forward/too pessimistically but one of the non-Gihren Zabis might have to die at some point in the future to get Degwin demoralized.
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>>5986034
>one of the non-Gihren Zabis might have to die at some point in the future to get Degwin demoralized.
>only one
Total Zabi death.
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>>5985983
>[TRY TO STOP CASVAL]
We’re not ready for a war the mobile armor isn’t done beam weapons aren’t fully figured out training isn’t fully finished etc it’s too early
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>>5985983
Also we should imply about how an immediate war will help the Zabis' image.
Can we use our newtype powers to communicate with Cas more in detail? Since Garma is still around and such.
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>>5986040
I agree, fellow Deikunist, I'm just trying to get inside Felix's head to keep him in character. To Eart- I mean Sieg Zeon!
>>5986051
>Also we should imply about how an immediate war will help the Zabis' image.
Maybe this is the way to go to dissuade Casval, either use this or getting in Degwin's way as the initial argument, and the other one as a back up. We know he doesn't care if Gihren alone looks bad.
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>>5985983
>[COMMENCE THE DAWN REBELLION].

Fuck it, We ball.
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Just as a reminder, since I know some anons aren't as familiar with the setting as others: In the Origin timeline, the Dawn Rebellion (in late 0077) does not actually trigger the One Year War. It is called the start of the war, but this is not meant literally - the war did not properly begin until slightly over one year after it the 'rebellion' occured, instead beginning with the massive fleet actions and nuclear/gas/colony exchanges of the one week battle in January of 0079. That's when the mutual multi-billion civilian kill counts get racked up by both sides, wiping out half the human population of the Earth Sphere.
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>>5985983
>[TRY TO STOP CASVAL]
We want to try our hardest to NOT follow the train of events that leads to the OYW as much as possible. This won't be the spark that launches the war early, but the Dawn Rebellion is a critical stepping stone to it.
>>5986025
>Suggest that instead of taking the offensive, we put ourselves in a self-defense situation. Something that's truly damning to the Federation as a whole and gives us reason to demand more Spacenoid freedom.
And I'll put my vote behind this idea here. We need to engineer a scenario that places maximum blame against the Federation, and ensure we come out with a stronger footing than just having military forces removed from Guardian Banchi, something that allows us to increase our personal popularity with the people of Zeon without being a "glorious offensive action" that Gihren can use.
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>>5985983
>[COMMENCE THE DAWN REBELLION].
C'mon lads it'll be fun.
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>>5986062
>spoiler
based?
>Maybe this is the way to go to dissuade Casval, either use this or getting in Degwin's way as the initial argument, and the other one as a back up. We know he doesn't care if Gihren alone looks bad.
I'm not really sure if he cares about what Degwin or the rest of the Zabis think, other than in how it can help him kill them. I feel like mentioning about how this could go against Degwin's interests will dissuade Garma more than Casval, which could probably (hopefully) help.

>>5986080
I agree. And while doing something separate from the Gihren's and/or Kycillia's influence might be almost impossible, we could hopefully be able to pull something off if we play our cards right.

>>5985983
>>5986025
Also to add a bit more on what I was saying, we can't make it seem like we're disagreeing with Casval here if we're trying to dissuade him. Arguing with him won't get us anywhere.
Basically I think we should agree with Casval's end goal in this situation.
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>>5986140
The key is that we, the Deikun side of the family and to a lesser extent our affiliated Zabi allies like Garma and Dozle, come out as the stars of a defensive action, as opposed to playing into Gihren's rhetoric by engaging in a preemptive offensive action.
I'm thinking we need to go to the defense of the rioters, and stand in the firing line for a while. If we can provoke the Federation into attacking us directly and forcefully, we'll give our little student rebellion a strong casus belli while also appearing as a more moderate, caring bloc in contrast to the warhawks.
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>>5986169
>I'm thinking we need to go to the defense of the rioters, and stand in the firing line for a while. If we can provoke the Federation into attacking us directly and forcefully, we'll give our little student rebellion a strong casus belli while also appearing as a more moderate, caring bloc in contrast to the warhawks.
That's actually a really good idea.
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>>5986169
>>5986170
We can still use parts of Casval's plan if we do this. I mean we could even have it done as soon as the Dawn Rebellion was meant to happen.
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>>5986169
Yea, thats probably a good idea. A line of cadets to hold back the tide.
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>>5986140
>I'm not really sure if he cares about what Degwin or the rest of the Zabis think
It's not about caring what Degwin thinks, it's about getting in the way of Degwin's plans when (we suspect) he's more than willing to snuff out a Deikun who gets in his way.
Speaking of family, it's been a bit since I read the other threads but Zenna is in our class right? >>5986169
This is a good idea for if this is going down.

I wonder what the real Quattro Bajeena is up to.
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>>5985983
>[TRY TO STOP CASVAL].

>>5986080
>>5986169
+1, this plan may eventually lead to the revival of the Deikuns as a unique force in the public eye. If not precisely that, then this is still definitely a good step towards that in any case.
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>>5985983
>>[TRY TO STOP CASVAL]. Through talk, or an alternative plan.

With this plan >>5986169
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I'll leave voting open until the morning.

Just so you know, because Felix would be painfully aware of it: forcing yourself into a defensive fight is inviting MUCH greater risk to himself and the other cadets (and his siblings+newtype pilot candidates) since it would gives Federation forces time to prepare. A surprise attack gives your forces the initiative and would likely result in many Federation soldiers not even being awake or armed - forcing their hand is MUCH likelier to turn very bloody, wherever it is done. The optics of a defiant stand to protect civilians with the Federation as the (mostly) undisputed aggressor vs. pre-emptive defense of civilians (on another colony) is up for anons to debate.
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I appreciate y'alls support of my idea, but as Contolist said : >>5986243
We could be sacrificing a lot with this plan. If we do decide to go for it, we're going to need to find some way to spring a trap on the Federation, or its going to be bloodbath. And as politically advantageous as it could be for us, its a moot point if we get too many of the cadet force killed.
Building on my idea of tricking the Federation into striking first, we need to find a way to bring some kind of force onto the Federation's flanks, or ideally, their rear, in order to hit them from behind before they savage our frontline too badly.
We should hold Casval back for now, and try to find a way to position some kind of heavy firepower, preferably mobile suits, somewhere out of the Federation's sights, so they can jump them once they fire the first shot. If that isn't possible, we'll have to rethink the plan.
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>>5985983
>>[COMMENCE THE DAWN REBELLION].
The time for being peace loving fags has gone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuVnZZ1sFIc
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>>5985983
Fuck it. This vote is brought to you by contolists lore clarification. I would love to create more support for zeon, but we are already improving our situation compared to canon by massively increasing BEAMU development with Gil, more streamlined war gear procurement and (potentially) more importantly curbing some of Garmas wunderwaffen autism. Wasting time chasing the Gundam gave feddies precious time to mass produce more gyms, instead now we might have him focused on crushing more important strategic targets. Gundam rampaging would be painful for our side but the damn thing can only be in one place at one time. And faster beam development combined with the fact that we low key have 2 chars AND an improved newtype core of pilots means we could get a chance to destroy it before Amuro gets enough time to grind XP for piloting without over investing man hours into chasing the white whale.
And risking a blood for our side sounds like massively increasing the chances for our fellow cadets dying. This is the worst because the best OYW result is zeon victory+Zabi death. And to achieve the latter we need a powerful inner circle to not only survive the OYW but also have the competence to ice the zabis when given the chance. So we need our team to get war XP and a good chunk of material improvement is already under way.
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>>5986480
>>5985983
[COMMENCE THE DAWN REBELLION]
I forgot to paste the vote like a tard.
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>>5985983
>>[COMMENCE THE DAWN REBELLION].
LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
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>>5985983
After sleeping on my idea and considering this >>5986480
I've decided to rescind my previous >>5986080
and instead vote for >[COMMENCE THE DAWN REBELLION].
If we can adjust the Dawn Rebellion to be more heroic (and focused on ourselves instead of Garma), that would probably be a wiser choice than attempting my riskier plan from last night.
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>>5986043
Since this won’t start the war and since our plan may put the cadets in to much danger I’ll change my vote to
>[COMMENCE THE DAWN REBELLION].
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One more hour to vote.

You did ask to do more things with Casval. This is what you meant - right?
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>>5986526
Based monkeys paw QM. The only thing i do not like here is the fact that after the rebellion there eill be a bunch of time spent moping about muh tragedy snd muh waste of human life in front of the press/normies for good boy points.
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>>5986514
>>5986508
>>5986492
>>5986481
>>5986469
>>5986090
>>5986065
>>5986017
Commence! Wins, writing.

>>5986034
>>5986211
>>5986214
Stop!
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>>5985983
>>5986025
>>5986169
+1
Caution? Never heard of it.

>>5986526
>spoiler
YES!
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>>5986570
Kek
Not like my vote changed the outcome lol
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>>5986526
I like Casval if for no other reason than him helping us not be so scared of taking chances.
I still regret we didn't have a psychic detective episode on Luna.
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>>5986612
It would have been very fun, but at least some spy stuff got to happen on Side Seven. And might happen again.
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21:20, 10th December UC 0077
Zeon Military Academy on Guardian Banchi, Side Three (Republic of Zeon)


In the dark of one of the normally unused briefing rooms, freshly liberated from the clutches of a Federation instructor - who is on vacation, of all things - you have gathered the most leading cadets of all three class years. The only ones of import though are already well known to you, entirely from your own year and family - Yourself, Casval, Artesia, Vivima, and Garma. No one else will question a word of the plan that is being devised, if you speak it together. Standing around a table displaying a digital map of Guardian colony’s spaceport and the surrounding landscape, you have helped to draw up a battle plan over the last few hours - with some assistance from Blare.

In the broad strokes it is very simple. Weapons and equipment, including what heavy vehicles the academy possesses, will be seized from the armory and motor pool in a few hours. All cadets will form into their usual squads and platoons from field exercises, though the companies of each class year will be somewhat mixed - the first years are going to be predominantly manning crew served weapons and artillery, while the more experienced second and third years will press the attack into the spaceport. There are five targets within the spaceport city that must be seized or damaged beyond use; the spaceport itself, the Federation headquarters, the barracks, the armories, and the motor pool. Scouts observing the city right now are still confirming that there are few armed soldiers, despite the increased patrols and presence. Most of the Feddies are not expecting a fight, and are asleep already - they still should be when the attack is launched at dawn. Outside of the city, three more targets have been discussed but no firm plan has been agreed upon yet. If there are no convincing objections, they will be part of the plan.
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>>5986668

The first is a Federation controlled communications station out in the countryside of the colony, Guardian colony’s most important radio and television broadcasting center. Vivima has proposed that a small team seize the station so that a message can be broadcast throughout the colony and hopefully beyond - something to let the colony, if not the wider Earth Sphere, know what is happening and to remain calm and indoors until control of the spaceport and city have been established. Casval and the others agreed this was prudent to help prevent widespread chaos across the colony when battle commences.

The second is the Federation Salamis-class cruiser Sybota, which is currently both jamming and physically blocking most communications to and from Guardian colony. This was also Vivima’s idea. Artesia was not fond of it, but Casval and then eventually Garma came around to the idea. Viv has proposed that a single pilot, or a pair, take a pod out to your unarmed and disguised Musai-class cruisers which are still near the colony, and sortie with your Zakus to engage the cruiser and any other ships that interfere. The intent is to force the ship away from the colony’s communications hub, not destroy it outright, so that the message from the seized communications station can reach out across the Earth Sphere, and footage of the fighting can be broadcast as well.

Third and finally, there is the matter of Dozle. He’s not a part of this plan - all of your family, Garma and Vivimia included, agreed that he would not approve of the plan. Though he deactivated the cadet units less than a day after pressing them into service to clear the debris, he has been too busy to ask in much detail as to why the request was made. High command is still abuzz with information about Federation movements and trying to organize a response. Dozle will still need to be distracted before and during the plan, his authority is great enough to risk dissuading the other cadets, and it is best that he is surprised. A high ranking officer in Zeon’s self defense force cannot be suspected of organizing this act of rebellion, he must be caught as unaware as the Federation instructors and officers surely will be.

Preparations for treatment of the wounded, Zeon, Federation, and civilians, are already being made by Artesia and the other cadets undergoing medical training. Many casualties are expected, on the Federation side especially, but she has made sure there is a commitment to halting egregious waste of life. You know even this doesn’t sit well with her, but she’ll go along with things.
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>>5986669

But where will you be, Felix Zos Deikun, at this dawn of a new age for the Sides? And do you have any amendments to suggest to the plan?

Your place in the plan:
>You will fight beside Casval, leading other experienced cadets equipped with flight packs - your goal is nothing less than storming the Federation HQ and forcing a surrender. Fighting will be intense, you trust no one but yourself to watch his back.
>You will help seize the radio station, and make sure that whatever broadcast Vivima has concocted isn’t pure Gihrenism.
>You will make the arduous journey out to your ship in a normal suit with a flight pack, possibly with another pilot, sortie in the Zaku(s), and force the Sybota and any other Federation vessels out of position or destroy them if you absolutely must.
>Write-in. Is there some other way you would like to aid the plan?

Objections to parts of the plan:
>No, this is acceptable - get to it.
>Write-in. This will lead to discussion with other characters. Felix may not be successful in altering the plan.

Suggestions to add to the plan:
>No, this is acceptable - get to it.
>Write-in. This will lead to discussion with other characters. Felix may not be successful in altering the plan.
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>>5986670
1st Preference
>You will make the arduous journey out to your ship in a normal suit with a flight pack, possibly with another pilot, sortie in the Zaku(s), and force the Sybota and any other Federation vessels out of position or destroy them if you absolutely must.
2nd Preference
>You will help seize the radio station, and make sure that whatever broadcast Vivima has concocted isn’t pure Gihrenism.

I'm not especially thrilled about using Zakus here as the feddies will probably take more interest in them but dealing with the cruiser is pretty important. Might as well go out ourselves and do it right.
Objections:
>No, this is acceptable - get to it.
Suggestions:
Whoever our own biggest kool-aid drinker is should be the one to do the broadcast. Doing it ourselves isn't preferential as it'll paint a target on our back from Girhen and Kycilia.
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>>5986670
>You will help seize the radio station, and make sure that whatever broadcast Vivima has concocted isn’t pure Gihrenism. (1)
Something tells me that it's pure Gihrenism.

>You will make the arduous journey out to your ship in a normal suit with a flight pack, possibly with another pilot, sortie in the Zaku(s), and force the Sybota and any other Federation vessels out of position or destroy them if you absolutely must. (2)
Putting this one second because, besides Casval and Vivima, not sure what other pilots would be able to pull this off without being fried by the Salamis' mega particle battery.

Objections:
>No, this is acceptable - get to it.

Suggestions:
>Suggest Vivima be the one to sortie against the Sybota.
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>>5986670
>You will fight beside Casval, leading other experienced cadets equipped with flight packs - your goal is nothing less than storming the Federation HQ and forcing a surrender. Fighting will be intense, you trust no one but yourself to watch his back.
>>Write-in. Send Garma and Artesia to the broadcast station and Vivima to sortie against the Sybota.
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>>5986670
>>5986684
+1
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>>5986679
>other pilots.
Anavel or Izumi are the obvious non Deikun/Zabi choices and ridiculously talented. Tiff, Zenna, or Tryphosa could also probably do it, with wildly varying degrees TOTAL FEDDIE DEATH.

>>5986674
>biggest kool-aid drinker
Who do you think that would be? I'm curious to hear who players would trust (even if it doesn't happen).
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A good way to persuade Viv to be flying instead of sitting on the radio is make the argument that's she's one of the best pilots around. Finally prove that a Zabi woman is just as capable to fight as any man.

>>5986759
>Who do you think that would be? I'm curious to hear who players would trust (even if it doesn't happen).
If it was just one person then maybe Blare? But Garma and Artesia would probably be good enough to cancel each other out and not let things get too Gihren-y, even if Artesia would like to be doing nurse work instead.
I might be forgetting someone.
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>>5986670
1)
>You will fight beside Casval, leading other experienced cadets equipped with flight packs - your goal is nothing less than storming the Federation HQ and forcing a surrender. Fighting will be intense, you trust no one but yourself to watch his back.
2)
>You will help seize the radio station, and make sure that whatever broadcast Vivima has concocted isn’t pure Gihrenism.
Difficult to choose my preference with these two options.

Suggestions:
>Write-in:
>Suggest Vivima be the one to sortie against the Sybota.

>>5986759
Probably Blare. Maybe Rix as a co-host, sounds like fun.

>>5986778
>A good way to persuade Viv to be flying instead of sitting on the radio is make the argument that's she's one of the best pilots around. Finally prove that a Zabi woman is just as capable to fight as any man.
I was about to say that seizing the radio would also involve fighting, but compared to doing a sortie that's nothing. Honestly we could easily say Vivima would be putting herself as a 'support' role by just sitting on her ass in front of the radios when her flying leadership skills could help the Spacenoids more.
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>>5986670
1)
>You will help seize the radio station, and make sure that whatever broadcast Vivima has concocted isn’t pure Gihrenism
2)
>You will make the arduous journey out to your ship in a normal suit with a flight pack, possibly with another pilot, sortie in the Zaku(s), and force the Sybota and any other Federation vessels out of position or destroy them if you absolutely must.
Suggestions
>Suggest Vivima be the one to sortie against the Sybota.
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>>5986670
>>5986778
I'll change my vote to
1)
>You will fight beside Casval, leading other experienced cadets equipped with flight packs - your goal is nothing less than storming the Federation HQ and forcing a surrender. Fighting will be intense, you trust no one but yourself to watch his back.
2)
>You will help seize the radio station, and make sure that whatever broadcast Vivima has concocted isn’t pure Gihrenism.
-Suggestions
>Suggest Vivima be the one to sortie against the Sybota.
>Whoever our own biggest kool-aid drinker (or drinkers) is should be the one to do the broadcast.

>>5986793
Yeah, this is a big event and we need to make sure we don't bungle it up. She's honestly one of the best suited to do the sortie against the Sybota. I mean it was also her idea.
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>>5986670
>>5986811
Dammit, didn't link the proper vote. I'm changing from >>5986695 to >>5986811
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>>5986670
>You will help seize the radio station, and make sure that whatever broadcast Vivima has concocted isn’t pure Gihrenism.

>Send Vivima and whoever else is our best pilots that aren't Tryphosa. Taking the Sybota out of the picture was her idea, and she's one of the best pilots here (and too Gihren-y to be manning the radio)
>Bring along Tryphosa and possibly Blare and Tif to the Radio Station, if they can be spared. Tryphosa is very convincing even when you don't hear her in person after all, and she has perfect knowledge of our plans and goals, and what should and should not be said.
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>>5986759
>Who do you think that would be? I'm curious to hear who players would trust (even if it doesn't happen).
I'd absolutely trust Izumi or Blare to do it properly if we asked and I'm sure Tiff and Rix would at least give it their best shot. I just don't remember if we have any genuine Deikun ideologues in our camp or not.
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>>5986670
>>5986793
Support.
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>>5986832
Sorry to double post this but I'll clarify that the other pilot besides Vivima should be Izumi, or barring that, Anavel.
Also, suggestions:
>Taking the Sybota hostage should be priority. That means not blowing its bridge to pieces. A cruiser detonating next to the colony would be bad news bears. Retreating would be preferable.
>Under absolutely no circumstances should the enlisted Federation soldiers be mistreated in any capacity. Our beef has to be with their officers, not the rank and file.
>Can the worker zakus be commandeered?
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>>5986670
>>You will help seize the radio station, and make sure that whatever broadcast Vivima has concocted isn’t pure Gihrenism.


Suggestions to add to the plan:
>Write-in. This will lead to discussion with other characters. Felix may not be successful in altering the plan.

Suggest Viv to lead the fight against the Salamis vessel. Let her know that trying to conceal the capabilities of the zaku is a pirority so direct action versus the ship should be a bad idea. Fortunately, we have been busy collect megatons of scrap from the collection recently. A big ball of scrap flying directly at them, either thrown with momentum or pushed by zakus from behind to keep it on target and get the ship to actually move should be sufficient for our purpose.
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Voting will be open until tomorrow morning. THE DAWN OF ZEON.

I'll try to make sense of everything then. Seems like almost everyone wants to push Viv towards direct violence so far. Not the choice I expected, but she's definitely more than qualified to fly the mission.
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>>5986759
>Anavel
Oh yeah he's here too. Living in the Delaz Fleet aged that guy like milk, jeez. Speaking of Char-style aces I'm surprised Johnny Ridden hasn't shown up at one of the many Zabi-Deikun Family Picnics we've participated in yet. Once he gets on the simp grind we'll have four out of five top Zeon aces from the OYW... Then it's just a matter of pulling Shin Matsunaga out of the continuity paradox he lives in, I imagine it's agony.
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>>5986946
Shin is around, the opportunity to have him be one of Felix's pilot bodyguards was passed up in thread five. Oguz even recommended him, though Felix had no idea who he was either. Johnny is already around and simping for Kycilia, Felix hasn't ever interacted with him.

Felix has a thing for redheads, and Kycilia likes younger blondes - absolute DISASTER was barely avoided in the early threads.
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>>5986974
Interacted with him directly.* He is vaguely aware of his existence thanks to Viv.
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>>5986974
Especially after the attempted flirtings. lmao.
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>>5986980
>attempted
It was successful, she was amused but into it.
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>>5987050
I thought the stuff like her lying on the bed was to fuck with us.

Guess our actions to quickly prove to be a useful asset put a bullet into that pretty quickly.
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>>5986935
Maybe she will be fried by the salami and a second pilot would get the kill.
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>>5986674 (2nd option)
>>5986679
>>5986798
>>5986832
>>5986893
Radio.

>>5986684
>>5986695
>>5986793 (Radio)
>>5986811 (Radio)
>>5986836 (Radio)
Casval.

We have a tie, I will give it two hours for a tie breaker.

>>5987056
It definitely was also that.
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>>5986935
>>5987151
Really making me second guess myself here Contolist. How about we bring Vivima and Tryph to the radio station and send Blare&Tif/Izumi&Anavel to the Sybota instead? Not encouraging her violent tendencies is probably smart, but I really don't want her on the radio.
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>>5987151
Just put my vote for the Radio then, with the suggestion to have Vivi go and take out Sybota and either Garma and Artesia or Blare and someone else join us.

>>5987157
>Really making me second guess myself here Contolist.
He tends to like doing that. Just look at the secret weakness.
Also please lets not have Viv anywhere near the radio to influence, she's unironically one of the most influential Zabis (I think she called herself the people's Zabi at one point?) when it comes to propaganda she probably got that from her big brother.
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>>5986674 (2nd option)
>>5986679
>>5986798
>>5986832
>>5986893
>>5987179
>>5986836 (2nd option)
>>5986793 (2nd option)
Radio station wins, writing. There will be an attempt to persuade Viv to handle the Sybota, that'll be its own conversation.

>>5987179
Vivima was (is?) a colony pop idol in her spare time for awhile, she is immensely popular though mostly for innocuous reasons. She openly and proudly espouses Gihrenism as well, but she's been too busy establishing her proto united maintenance plan and herding the cats that are Zeon's military industry to be touring with Gihren for well over a year now. The rest of her time is eaten up with the academy, mobile suit training, and Tryph/attempting newtype stuff. Spice in a bit of Kycilia shenanigans and you have a good idea of her schedule. Casval is the one going around to speeches with Gihren now, though of course it is purely with the intent of establishing his own power base politically while pretending to be a 'useful tool'. Gihren's arrogant enough that it is working so far, but it's a delicate dance - it doesn't take much to be perceived as a threat again.
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>>5986670
>You will help seize the radio station, and make sure that whatever broadcast Vivima has concocted isn’t pure Gihrenism.

>No, this is acceptable - get to it.
>No, this is acceptable - get to it.

Sorry was hospitlzed so couldn't vote sooner.
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>>5987198
>Casval is the one going around to speeches with Gihren now
Huh, I actually would've never guessed.

>>5987203
Don't die anon.
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“...I’ll lead the team seizing the radio station.” You say while examining the digital map, pointing with a finger toward the green forested hills where the broadcast compound lies before looking up to the others assembled in the briefing room. Blue eyes meet violet, Viv tilting her head slightly as she considers the idea, a small grin already beginning to spread, “Vivima, I believe you’re the most qualified to sortie and handle the Sybota.”

Her smile grows very proud, and she laughs warmly as she replies, “Am I now? I’ll take that as an admission that I'm the better pilot… But I was hoping we could both take the broadcast compound, and one of the pilots you’ve been training can handle forcing the ship. Anavel would be my pick.”

“I appreciate the vote of confidence, but Federation defenses are always lax, it won’t be hard. I doubt they even have their point defense systems powered on.” Anavel remarks from off to the side of the room, arms crossed and his face a mask of total confidence - you have no doubts that the silver haired cadet is good for it as well, he’s bested you a number of times in the sims and is overall one of the top pilots you’ve found. No newtype potential you’ve felt yet though; he’s just that good, similar to Izumi.

“It wouldn’t help them if they were, but I agree with my brother that Vivima is the most qualified - A Federation captain is less likely to open fire on a Zabi, I've seen it firsthand.” Casval chuckles before looking back down to the map, examining the broadcast compound just as you have been, “We’re going to need as many rifles as we can take to the city, the radio team should be small.”

“Agreed.” Vivima replies, you and a number of the others in the room echoing the sentiment in similar ways. It only makes sense, there aren’t likely to be more than a handful of guards. Viv continues on as the chorus of agreement dies down, “A show of unity is paramount though, and I'm confident the Sybota won't be an issue for our better pilots. Both halves of our family should be part of the radii broadcast to show Zeon’s growing strength, and also cadets from each Side, as well as Luna… Do we have any Earthnoids or Martians?”

You don’t miss that she’s just elevated the Zabi(-Deikun) family to the same level or even above the Sides.

“...We do, and one from the Mars colonies.” Blare replies, looking away from a notepad he’s been writing on during the meeting and adjusting his glasses slightly, “I’ll find them… if that’s the plan.”

Ah, good old Blare - he takes orders from you, not Viv.
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>>5987241

“Make sure you do, they’ll be needed. I’d like to get a representative from as many parts of the Earth Sphere and beyond as possible, we already have our Jovian.” Vivima takes Tryphosa’s hand in her own as she speaks, and through your bond with Tryphosa you can feel the turbulent clouds of Vivima’s mind part; her words are in earnest, “At dawn, we’ll be creating a symbol for all who seek freedom from the Federation’s grip. Felix, come with me, I’d have my closest friend by my side for this. Garma and Casval will be the faces for the cameras, but we will be the voices… Artesia, I suppose that leaves you as the heart?”

Your sister rolls her eyes at that, but still smiles - she refrains from commenting. You can readily sense that she’s satisfied with her role in the operation. The public seeing her as a healer rather than a soldier would be beneficial, both to soften your family’s image somewhat after staging an armed revolt and also just for Artesia’s own sake - not due to any weakness, but simply because you care for her.

>”Garma and Artesia could go, perhaps that would be a stronger message.” They’re together - Want a message of unity? There’s one.
>”...I like the sound of that plan, Viv. We’ll go together then. I’ve already got a representative for Riah in mind.” …Maybe Viv is changing? Tryph has been working on her for months now, but it’s been awhile since you’ve been to do much with her besides sim training and factory tours.
>Write-in. (Anything to stop her?)
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>>5987242
>”...I like the sound of that plan, Viv. We’ll go together then. I’ve already got a representative for Riah in mind.” …Maybe Viv is changing? Tryph has been working on her for months now, but it’s been awhile since you’ve been to do much with her besides sim training and factory tours.
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>>5987242
>”Garma and Artesia could go, perhaps that would be a stronger message.” They’re together - Want a message of unity? There’s one.
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>>5987242
>”...I like the sound of that plan, Viv. We’ll go together then. I’ve already got a representative for Riah in mind.” …Maybe Viv is changing? Tryph has been working on her for months now, but it’s been awhile since you’ve been to do much with her besides sim training and factory tours.
I think this'll be better for the future war effort in the long run.
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>>5987242
>”...I like the sound of that plan, Viv. We’ll go together then. I’ve already got a representative for Riah in mind.” …Maybe Viv is changing? Tryph has been working on her for months now, but it’s been awhile since you’ve been to do much with her besides sim training and factory tours.
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>>5987242
>”Garma and Artesia could go, perhaps that would be a stronger message.” They’re together - Want a message of unity? There’s one.
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>>5987242
>”...I like the sound of that plan, Viv. We’ll go together then. I’ve already got a representative for Riah in mind.” …Maybe Viv is changing? Tryph has been working on her for months now, but it’s been awhile since you’ve been to do much with her besides sim training and factory tours.
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>>5987277
>I think this'll be better for the future war effort in the long run.
Unironically speaking fully becoming a Zabi would be better for Zeon's war effort.
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>>5987242
1)
>Ask for Blare and Tiff to come with instead.
2)
>”Garma and Artesia could go, perhaps that would be a stronger message.” They’re together - Want a message of unity? There’s one.
Saying that, however, I like this idea more.
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>>5987242
Damn this girl, she's got a real silver tongue. We should've pushed her off that mountain when we had the chance. I don't believe for one second that she's changed, or ever will, regardless of what Tryph says.
Unfortunately, I can't think of a good rebuttal, and none of the options appeal, so I'll abstain. If we're lucky, we might have a chance to get her killed or injured in the fighting. Anything to keep her off the radio.
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>>5987242
>”Garma and Artesia could go, perhaps that would be a stronger message.” They’re together - Want a message of unity? There’s one.
I like Vivima's plan more, but the whole "maybe she's changed" mentality without showing any concrete actions to support it is a deal breaker.
Also to hopefully keep her off the radio.
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>>5987242
>”Garma and Artesia could go, perhaps that would be a stronger message.” They’re together - Want a message of unity? There’s one.
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>>5987307
>She's got a real silver tongue
For us and our Newtype lover.
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>>5987331
The only thing that concerns me about killing her off is that Tryph won't be able to accept it. Unfortunately, I rate Vivima as far more dangerous to us right now than Gihren or Kycilia.
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>>5987336
>Tryph won't be able to accept it.
She'll come around eventually. Especially if Viv makes it to the OYW and Tryph gets to see how fucked up the Zabis really are.
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>>5987336
>>5987341
if people didn't fucking betray Tryph, and went with a DISGUSTING earthnoid woman we wouldmn't need to worry about that,.
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>>5987341
The problem is that frankly it looks like Vivima is going to need to die within the next few hours and not mid-OYW after she's gotten her war crime on. Hopefully Tryph will understand that Vivima and her mental influence are too dangerous and can't be allowed to continue, but I'm not hopeful about that.
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>>5987307
>>5987347
I can understand being wary of viv especially with her newtype awaking on the horizon but what in the last post made it a priority to kill her right now? I feel like this is jumping the gun especially since we don’t know how tryph will react and we’ll be the last know person with her a fact garma would know(information that would get to Gihren and Kycilia) it’s way to messy and rash to do something now
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>>5987363
It's just my own opinion, but the reason is that I think it would be a truly horrible idea for her to be the one on the radio, spreading her Gihrenist garbage using us and the cadets as set pieces. It would be an enormous detriment to our attempts to position ourselves as a bloc separate from the Zabis. On a more prosaic level, Vivima is a dangerously influential newtype, capable of of manipulating Felix mentally with frightening ease, and if she fully awakens it will only get worse.
Ultimately, we're walking into a warzone. If a grenade happens to fall into Vivima's cover, that just bad luck.
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>>5987376
>If a grenade happens to fall into Vivima's cover, that just bad luck.
Oh look, martyr Vivima Zabi for the whole of spacenoid kind to rally behind. Thank you Zabis for leading us in glorious revolution.
>>5987347
What's worse, viv having a small portion in a large group of reps talking over the radio or her becoming the martyr of Zeon as a whole? She's the favored younger sibling, getting her killed 'accidentally' by feddie soldiers will be a wonderful way to have the entire Zabi family unite.
>>5987345
A set back for sure but not an insurmountable one to get upset about. This is Gundam, both are equally likely to die during the war.
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>>5987400
The one bonus of her dying now is that we would be first to know, and thus could use her death for our purposes during the broadcast. If we shape the dialogue around her death right it can play right into our hands. This glorious daughter of Zeon, dying for Deikun's cause of lifting humanity up from Earth.
Meanwhile, if we let her on that radio she's going to completely steal the show. The unfortunate fact of the matter is that she is far more charismatic than Felix is, and that damn newtype mindfuck power of hers means she'll be mentally manipulating us into playing directly into her ideology. We'll be cast into the role of supporting her and Gihren across the entire Earth Sphere, the death knell of all of our work so far.
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>>5987425
>We'll be cast into the role of supporting her and Gihren across the entire Earth Sphere, the death knell of all of our work so far.
You're too focused on establishing a competing power dynamic with substantially fewer political resources. We should be subverting the existing power structure for our own benefit. In other words, we should be a Stalin and not a Lenin.
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>>5987400
>Oh look, martyr Vivima Zabi for the whole of spacenoid kind to rally behind. Thank you Zabis for leading us in glorious revolution.
Cas martyred Garma in canon and it didn't make the Zabis unite enough to stop killing each other. If anything Viv is their linchpin.
I bet there will be less infighting between the Zabis as long as Viv's around, which is very bad. I don't see her wanting to betray her family in any circumstance.

>>5987242
>”Garma and Artesia could go, perhaps that would be a stronger message.” They’re together - Want a message of unity? There’s one.
I agree with subverting their structure.
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>>5987434
Allowing the existing power structure to continue unchallenged is whats going to make the OYW the slaughter that it is in canon. It's entirely too dangerous to continue playing the long game when we're already this close to the war.
And did you forget about how powerful of a newtype she is? Her mental manipulation is an existential threat far beyond Kycilia or Gihren's terrestrial efforts. She is simply too dangerous to be allowed to live any longer, especially during a major political turning point like this.
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I have serious doubts we could kill her without earrings suppisions from The rest of the family and we haven’t discussed this with Artesia or casval I’m pretty sure they would want to be consulted before taking a serious step like this
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>>5987446
I'm sure both of them will understand when we explain.
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>>5987440
>Allowing the existing power structure to continue unchallenged is whats going to make the OYW the slaughter that it is in canon
It's going to be a slaughter one way or another if we don't kill ALL the Zabis before it kicks off.
>It's entirely too dangerous to continue playing the long game when we're already this close to the war.
I disagree. The war is the best opportunity to make moves and take over the existing power structure. If we do anything major before hand it'll leave Zeon too weak to make any meaningful advances against the Federation. And yeah, shitloads of people are going to die. Best way to stop that is to not let Zeon gas or nuke everything that moves in the first week of the war.
>And did you forget about how powerful of a newtype she is?
Forget? We barely interact with her enough to know she has potential. Your kneejerk reactions aren't proof of some existential threat.
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>>5987446
As long as she dies in a sufficiently believable way, and we use her death to establish the maximum amount of political capital that we can for ourselves, it won't matter. Garma and Dozle will never suspect anything, and Gihren and Kycilia won't be able to simply off us. Degwin is simply irrelevant.
Unfortunately, we no longer have the luxury of time. The discussions can happen after the fact.
>>5987450
>It's going to be a slaughter one way or another if we don't kill ALL the Zabis before it kicks off.
Removing Vivima before the war occurs means that she can't play a part in making that slaughter worse.
>If we do anything major before hand it'll leave Zeon too weak to make any meaningful advances against the Federation.
And if we go into the war without having enough of a political foothold we'll be easily swept aside by Gihren once he reaches the pinnacle of power he has during it.
>Forget? We barely interact with her enough to know she has potential.
Are you an idiot? We don't interact with her because everytime we have she's nearly mindfucked us into going along with her every whim. She's the most powerful newtype in Zeon that isn't Felix or Tryph, the only thing holding her back is that she hasn't awakened properly yet.
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>>5987452
>Removing Vivima before the war occurs means that she can't play a part in making that slaughter worse.
Man if we can find a way to make that happen without her becoming a martyr I'm all for it. But we're on the verge of a massively public event. Killing her here is only going to add fuel on the fire.
>And if we go into the war without having enough of a political foothold we'll be easily swept aside by Gihren once he reaches the pinnacle of power he has during it.
And how do you suggest we gain our own political support? I'm sure Casval has been doing what he can but how do you expect us to rival Gihren's political power without first subverting it?
>We don't interact with her because everytime we have she's nearly mindfucked us into going along with her every whim
Please explain how reasonable suggestions and a genuine attitude are mindfucking? And here's a suggestion, we can just space her when the entire world isn't about to have their eyes on us.
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Something also tells me that Felix is going to be incredibly resistant to the idea of killing Vivima, given his past thoughts on it, so if he's going to do that, then he'll need a very good compelling reason to go that far. I'm not sure this broadcast is going to be strong enough in Felix's mind to make him consider taking such an action seriously.
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>>5987455
Having her go missing isn't a half bad idea actually. If she just vanishes during the fighting, that would solve most of our problems right there. Rix and Tif should easily be able to overwhelm her as long as she's separated from the group.
Stick her body in a dumpster, throw in a couple grenades, set whats left on fire and nobody will be any the wiser.
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>>5987460
Already better than just accidenting her in the coming fight. Plus we've got a whole ass year to figure it out before the war starts. Lots of things can happen in that amount of time.
>>5987459
>I'm not sure this broadcast is going to be strong enough in Felix's mind to make him consider taking such an action seriously.
Yeah we do have to stay in character about it. Cas, on the other hand, could be nudged in a certain direction pretty easily.
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>>5987460
While Rix and Tif are our friends I wouldn’t trust them to be apart of something like this I doubt they would follow through if we finally have to do this the less that know about it the better plus as >>5987459 said Felix isn’t cas he probably wouldn’t have the resolve to go that far based off the broadcast alone
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>>5987461
Ultimately what I see here is that we agree she's going to have to die. Personally, I believe eliminating her sooner rather than later, lest those newtype powers awaken is just the safer option. This is surely as good a time for her to disappear as any.
>>5987463
Then we do it all ourselves. We have a gun, and we're a man. Dumping one girls body into a dumpster and destroying it should be within our capacity to pull off. As to if it's in character or not, I'll let Contolist be the judge of that.
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>>5987464
>Ultimately what I see here is that we agree she's going to have to die.
Absolutely. I think the closer to the OYW we get the better, and best if it happens during. That way the other Zabis will have a harder time reconciling her projects and connections before we can do it for ourselves.
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>>5987242
>”Garma and Artesia could go, perhaps that would be a stronger message.” They’re together - Want a message of unity? There’s one.
I decided to vote for this anyway, even if I don't like it. Anything is better than letting Vivima be on that mic.
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>>5987478
But doesn't this option basically solidify the Deikuns and the Zabi's as being intertwined in the public eye? Wouldn't this severely cripple any attempts at further distinguishing our family?
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>>5987480
As long as Vivima is kept out of the public eye, we remain distanced from her, and the Dawn Rebellion isn't used as a vehicle for Gihrenism, that's a price I'd be willing to pay.
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>>5987247
>>5987277
>>5987281
>>5987298
Agree.

>>5987271
>>5987290
>>5987300 (2nd)
>>5987315
>>5987322
>>5987478
Garma+Artesia. Wins, writing.
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“Garma and Artesia could go, perhaps that would be a stronger message.” You suggest before giving Garma and your sister a quick look. Garma smiles nervously at the suggestion, which is confusing; why? “If the goal is to show unity, they’re the best match we have.”

“You’re a very good match,” Vivima addresses the two of them warmly, and she clues into Garma’s nervous look at once, focusing more of her gaze upon him, “But neither of you are singers.”

“Singing?” Artesia questions, tilting her head slightly, blue eyes narrowing a touch, “What does that have to do with the broadcast?”

“I’m planning to sing, what else?” Vivima shrugs, lifting her hands palm up, “We all have our part to play. Garma has command of the operation once it’s underway, Casval is leading the assault on the Federation headquarters, and you are organizing medical treatment and emergency services during and after. Felix and I will handle the radio.”

Artesia nods at that, and you struggle to think of an objection that won’t draw immediate suspicion - It’s hard to find something unreasonable in what she’s saying, but a large part of you fears she’s going to use this as a vehicle to push Gihrenism… But a song? That’s not very Gihren, that’s just Viv being herself - her real self, she doesn't show that side much after taking on so many state responsibilities. There’s some angle to it, there must be, but you don’t feel any ill intent - that might be the issue though, Vivima truly believes she’s doing the right thing. But what if she’s right in this case? She's always shared your instinct to unite people, usually your own families...

“And you’ll sing? This doesn’t seem like the time or place for that.” Anavel comments, always a bit of a bolder cadet than the others and daring to butt back into the Zabi-Deikun discussion.

“The right song can lift a soul from gravity’s reach. People need to hear it.” Tryphosa speaks quietly, but her words carry across the room; for a moment you feel the strength of your bond deepen, that all too familiar timeless sensation returning once again - you think of her song so many months ago, when you all snuck off from the Flanagan institute to sing karaoke… It’s a fond memory, and with Tryph on board you’re finding it even harder to argue against the idea. What can you say?
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>>5987572

“Which song?” You finally ask, a few other cadets in the room quietly discussing things among themselves.

Viv meets your gaze before replying, some faint connection sparking across unseen spaces once more, the impression of something that could have been, and perhaps still could be, or perhaps already is but beyond this time, “Memories of Earth.

“That sappy old love song?” Tiff asks hoarsely from behind Blare; she’s been smoking this whole time, as have a few other cadets, and lights up another as she ask her question, “Trying to make everyone cry? We’re gonna be plugging Feddies full of lead, not asking them to dance.”

…Tiff might not get it, but you do. It’s a song about a colonist waiting on their love back on Earth to join them in the Sides, an old song from the first generation of colonization when many people in the Sides were forcibly selected to be moved from Earth through lotteries run by the Federation. Closing your eyes for a few heartbeats, you consider the song. Everyone across the Sides has experienced that longing, you have, or even if they’re too young they know many family members or friends who have. The Federation is cast in a bad light, but it isn’t calling for their deaths, just for loved ones - everyone, in fact - to leave the earth and live in space, but to still cherish memories of the time they spent there. Even Elena, who normally doesn’t listen to that kind of music, is very fond of it. Plenty of Earthnoids understand - lots of families have been broken up by the distance to the Sides and beyond.

Dammit, it’s perfect. You open your eyes, words failing to form into an objection. Of course Viv wants to sing it herself instead of using a recording, and you know she can pull it off well, but besides some self promotion it’s… neutral, or leaning Deikun even. Hell, it might be more peaceful than your father’s words, he could get very fired up at times and you’ve seen the text of his final speech…

>”...That’s very fitting, Viv. I believe it’s time we speak publicly about Newtypes as well, that should put people in the right mindset to think beyond Earth’s old ways.” An old song to herald a new dawn for mankind. Vivima must understand this is not a time for factionalism, she chose a song from even before your father’s writings let alone Gihren's. [Commence]
>”That could work… Can we speak in private for a few minutes, Vivima? Tryphosa, you should come as well.” …There’s nothing you can think of to say here in front of so many other cadets, but perhaps you can corner Vivima and learn more of her intentions? Change things, perhaps, if she’s still planning to spread Gihrenism.
>Write-in.
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>>5987575
>”That could work… Can we speak in private for a few minutes, Vivima? Tryphosa, you should come as well.” …There’s nothing you can think of to say here in front of so many other cadets, but perhaps you can corner Vivima and learn more of her intentions? Change things, perhaps, if she’s still planning to spread Gihrenism.
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>>5987575
>”That could work… Can we speak in private for a few minutes, Vivima? Tryphosa, you should come as well.” …There’s nothing you can think of to say here in front of so many other cadets, but perhaps you can corner Vivima and learn more of her intentions? Change things, perhaps, if she’s still planning to spread Gihrenism.
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>>5987575
>”That could work… Can we speak in private for a few minutes, Vivima? Tryphosa, you should come as well.” …There’s nothing you can think of to say here in front of so many other cadets, but perhaps you can corner Vivima and learn more of her intentions? Change things, perhaps, if she’s still planning to spread Gihrenism.
I didn't realize she was this slippery with her words and so stubborn in her desires. Christ, maybe she is the biggest threat like some anons have been saying.
Hell I bet this could be an attempt to 'wholesome' her way into making us part of the Zabis and (knowingly by her or not) turn our backs on Casval. I can see Felix getting cornered himself and falling for her words deeply, he's neither ruthless nor driven enough to resist.
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>>5987575
>”That could work… Can we speak in private for a few minutes, Vivima? Tryphosa, you should come as well.” …There’s nothing you can think of to say here in front of so many other cadets, but perhaps you can corner Vivima and learn more of her intentions? Change things, perhaps, if she’s still planning to spread Gihrenism.
I hope Admiral Coliny or General Gopp stuff Viv in a space cum jar a la Hilda Bidan sooner rather than later.
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>>5987575
>"Why sing it yourself?"
She is going to fuck with Felix's head with that song isn't she.
Will we even be able to do anything about it?
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>>5987575
>”That could work… Can we speak in private for a few minutes, Vivima? Tryphosa, you should come as well.” …There’s nothing you can think of to say here in front of so many other cadets, but perhaps you can corner Vivima and learn more of her intentions? Change things, perhaps, if she’s still planning to spread Gihrenism.
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>>5987601
>Felix getting cornered himself and falling for her words deeply
If Vivima doesn't convince him Tryph will. There's really no winning here.
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Voting will be open until the morning.
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>>5987575
>”That could work… Can we speak in private for a few minutes, Vivima? Tryphosa, you should come as well.” …There’s nothing you can think of to say here in front of so many other cadets, but perhaps you can corner Vivima and learn more of her intentions? Change things, perhaps, if she’s still planning to spread Gihrenism.
She really just has us dead to rights here. How I wish we'd shoved her off that mountain.
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Two more hours for voting, got some errands to run but I should have time around lunch.

>>5987601
This must be another step in her master plan. Next thing you know she might trick you into doing karaoke again, the horror!
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>>5987998
>>5987621
>>5987606
>>5987601
>>5987587
>>5987578
Cornering Viv, writing.
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“That would work very well…” You admit, the idea working almost too well really; she’s knocked it out of the park with this one. Managing her image from afar has always been something you were aware she does well, but every since you came to Zeon there hasn’t been much need for it - and you know the real Vivima, flaws and all. She’s a very different person to what she projects publicly. This will work, and it will work well - you feel in your bones, you feel it in your bond, and that… that might not be a good thing, if she twists the message. “Can we speak in private for a few minutes, Vivima? Tryphosa, could you come as well?”

“Of course, Felix.” Vivima agrees at once before addressing the room of cadets, though mostly Casval and Garma, “We’ll be back, keep working on the plan.”

A minute or so later, down the hall a ways and in another room, you find yourself alone with Vivima and Tryhosa. Viv takes a seat atop a desk, legs crossed and arms folded, ignoring the chair beside it - she’s taller than you when sitting atop it. Tryphosa remains standing, as do you.

“What’s the matter, Felix?” Vivima questions, a quizzical look taking her.

>”I wanted to discuss what we’re going to say tomorrow at the radio station. What are you planning to say in your message before the song? We should make sure our words complement one another’s.” Just do a bit of a GIhrenism check, it’s been awhile since you’ve discussed politics outside of newtypes and preparation for the war.

>”I don’t think you should sing, Viv, playing a recording would work too - this should be bigger than any one person.” She seems to understand that already with asking for cadets from across settled space, but maybe you can press home the point?

>”Tryphosa should sing, she was awakened before either of us.” She will be the herald of a new dawn for mankind.

>Write-in.
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>>5988402
>”Tryphosa should sing, she was awakened before either of us.” She will be the herald of a new dawn for mankind.

Put the Jupiter CBT in-charge.
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>>5988402
1)
>”I don’t think you should sing, Viv, playing a recording would work too - this should be bigger than any one person.” She seems to understand that already with asking for cadets from across settled space, but maybe you can press home the point?
2)
>”I wanted to discuss what we’re going to say tomorrow at the radio station. What are you planning to say in your message before the song? We should make sure our words complement one another’s.” Just do a bit of a GIhrenism check, it’s been awhile since you’ve discussed politics outside of newtypes and preparation for the war.
3)
>”I don’t think you should sing, Viv, playing a recording would work too - this should be bigger than any one person.” She seems to understand that already with asking for cadets from across settled space, but maybe you can press home the point?
>”Tryphosa should sing, she was awakened before either of us.” She will be the herald of a new dawn for mankind.
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>>5988402
>”I wanted to discuss what we’re going to say tomorrow at the radio station. What are you planning to say in your message before the song? We should make sure our words complement one another’s.” Just do a bit of a GIhrenism check, it’s been awhile since you’ve discussed politics outside of newtypes and preparation for the war.
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>>5988402
1)
>”I wanted to discuss what we’re going to say tomorrow at the radio station. What are you planning to say in your message before the song? We should make sure our words complement one another’s.” Just do a bit of a GIhrenism check, it’s been awhile since you’ve discussed politics outside of newtypes and preparation for the war.
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>”Tryphosa should sing, she was awakened before either of us.” She will be the herald of a new dawn for mankind.
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>>5988402
1)
>”I don’t think you should sing, Viv, playing a recording would work too - this should be bigger than any one person.” She seems to understand that already with asking for cadets from across settled space, but maybe you can press home the point?
>”Tryphosa should sing, she was awakened before either of us.” She will be the herald of a new dawn for mankind.
2)
>”I don’t think you should sing, Viv, playing a recording would work too - this should be bigger than any one person.” She seems to understand that already with asking for cadets from across settled space, but maybe you can press home the point?
3)
>”I wanted to discuss what we’re going to say tomorrow at the radio station. What are you planning to say in your message before the song? We should make sure our words complement one another’s.” Just do a bit of a GIhrenism check, it’s been awhile since you’ve discussed politics outside of newtypes and preparation for the war.
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>>5988402
>”I wanted to discuss what we’re going to say tomorrow at the radio station. What are you planning to say in your message before the song? We should make sure our words complement one another’s.” Just do a bit of a GIhrenism check, it’s been awhile since you’ve discussed politics outside of newtypes and preparation for the war.
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>>5988402
>”I don’t think you should sing, Viv, playing a recording would work too - this should be bigger than any one person.” She seems to understand that already with asking for cadets from across settled space, but maybe you can press home the point? (1)

>”Tryphosa should sing, she was awakened before either of us.” She will be the herald of a new dawn for mankind. (2)

I can't comb through the other threads right now but Tryph's "dad" has some connection to Scirocco, right? I almost don't want her to do it, not because of that, but because it seems to lean very close to Contolism, which Gihren and/or Degwin might see as a threat.
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Suggesting using a recording and that Tryphosa sing are mutually exclusive options, anons. The first option is a statement that no one should sing because this should be a symbol larger than the people who are a part of it; Tryphosa is a person despite what her father might think.

>>5988430
Allow me to retrieve the one and only reference from the archive, from when Tryphosa was briefly the POV character in thread two:
Artesia laughs, but you barely hear her over the low roar of rain, focusing instead upon the strangeness of the water soaked hike. Deep shadows surround you, reflected light peeking through dark clouds and high tree branches. A cold wind sends a shudder through you, instinctive fear. Wind means a leak or breach, or… it would on the fleet, but these colony cylinders are so vast compared to a ship’s interior, even the Jupitris. You move closer to Felix, and he puts his arm around you, pulling you closer still - Gravity vanishes, any closer and you’ll float. You pull tighter to test the theory, but remain firmly on the ground. You smile anyways, but a flash of anxiety from Felix turns it quickly into a frown. Enough stalling. They need to be ready. You need to be ready. Can you… can you even prepare for this? What if you react like the others to commands… it never happened before but…

Tryph and Artesia are available as alternate characters at times, if the right circumstances are met. Tryph is much easier to meet the requirements for.
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Its more important that we figure out once and for all where her political allegiance lies.
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>>5988442
>Suggesting using a recording and that Tryphosa sing are mutually exclusive options, anons. The first option is a statement that no one should sing because this should be a symbol larger than the people who are a part of it
Whoops, sorry QM.

>>5988402
>>5988405
I'll amend this vote to being
1)
>”I don’t think you should sing, Viv, playing a recording would work too - this should be bigger than any one person.” She seems to understand that already with asking for cadets from across settled space, but maybe you can press home the point?
2)
>”I wanted to discuss what we’re going to say tomorrow at the radio station. What are you planning to say in your message before the song? We should make sure our words complement one another’s.” Just do a bit of a GIhrenism check, it’s been awhile since you’ve discussed politics outside of newtypes and preparation for the war.
>”Tryphosa should sing, she was awakened before either of us.” She will be the herald of a new dawn for mankind.
3)
>”Tryphosa should sing, she was awakened before either of us.” She will be the herald of a new dawn for mankind.
4)
>”I wanted to discuss what we’re going to say tomorrow at the radio station. What are you planning to say in your message before the song? We should make sure our words complement one another’s.” Just do a bit of a GIhrenism check, it’s been awhile since you’ve discussed politics outside of newtypes and preparation for the war.
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>>5988402
>”I wanted to discuss what we’re going to say tomorrow at the radio station. What are you planning to say in your message before the song? We should make sure our words complement one another’s.
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>>5988403
>>5988430 (2nd)
>>5988459 (3rd)
Tryph.

>>5988409
>>5988410
>>5988422
>>5988478
>>5988413 (2nd)
Discuss. Wins, writing.
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“I wanted to discuss what we’re going to say tomorrow at the radio station.” You answer her easily, taking a seat atop another desk to speak more as the equals you are - the room has many such large desks, usually being used for more complicated exams, “What are you planning to say in your message before the song? We should make sure our words complement one another’s.”

“Oh, I see, so we’re here to iron out the details then? Finally resolve all the differences in our views?” A hint of a smile plays across Vivima’s lips, just enough to tease, “I’m glad you spoke up then. Tryphosa, what do you think should be said? You’ll be speaking as well.”

“It is something I have pondered with care, our words will carry great weight tomorrow.” Tryph takes a seat as well, beside you rather than atop a separate desk; it’s pleasant to be so close, both in body and soul, but you both understand to never push much further than this. Tryphosa’s jealousy of Elena remains, it likely always will, but you’ve both mostly come to terms with the situation and Elena and Tryph get along well enough now, despite Elena’s continued lack of anything like newtype potential. They both care for you too much to throw all of your lives into chaos, but you feel the tension beneath the surface. “I believe my words will be short, I have my sisters to think on, and this message will surely carry out to the fleet and far beyond to even our most remote outposts - If we do it well, it will be an expression of a dream, an ideal given words but I hope not limited by them. A chrysalis in which the dreams of many will be united, even before they fly off to join the rest across time.”

You find yourself almost entranced listening to your bond’s words, feeling her intent at the deepest levels of your soul - when she gets like this, mystical and misty eyed, you cannot help but feel the greatest affection.

“A vessel to escape the Earth’s gravity.” You say, understanding entirely, finding Tryphosa’s hand held in your own, fingers intertwined, despite never willing the the action. A physical imitation of the far deeper connection you share, a bond beyond space or time itself. “...We need to be careful in its making. It will come into being in the minds of others, of the rest of humanity, but we lay down the first planks of that ship.”

“...What is it like?” Vivima watches the two of you, violet eyes twinkling in something like awe, a look of profound curiosity softening her features, “To be bonded?”

“You know that is a question we cannot answer.” Tryphosa replies perfectly for the both of you, “And yet you always ask. You desire a bond, as you desire me.”
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>>5988750

…Well, there is that. Viv’s cheeks redden, but she doesn’t deny the truth of the words. You’ve known what’s been going on between them for many months now but just try not to think about it regularly; Tryph has essentially been stringing Vivima along, not quite romantically involved but skirting tantalizingly close to being so, just out of reach. And if there is anything Vivima cannot stand, something she will obsess over, it is a person that is beyond her she wishes to draw closer - she is still like that with you, always trying to draw you into her plots and plans, though business keep you apart more often than not recently.

In many ways, what you have asked Tryphosa to do, to manage Vivima, is cruel both to Tryph and Viv. Tryphosa was hardly innocent, but she strove to be good, stained by the hardships and realities of her father’s abuse but consciously choosing to remove herself from it as much as she could without forsaking her sisters. Tryphosa has always been manipulative and jealous, especially with her guards who she often resents, but she knew it was wrong on some level. Now though you have purposefully cast her as a manipulator, a temptation she has always felt but resisted, causing her to abuse her powers little by little. She teaches Vivima of newtypes, but has shepherded her away from an awakening, restrained her potential with little distractions, the right words here, a whisper in the ear or a kiss there…

“I do.” Vivima replies quietly, looking down to the ground in a way you haven’t seen her do since… well, probably since she was pretending to be Mink. This is genuine though, you’re certain of it. “And far more. But I know it isn’t safe, not with your sister. When it happens, I hope we’ll understand one another better - that is true for you too, Felix. What are you planning to say?”

…She still hasn’t answered the question yourself. Slippery Viv, she must speak like this without even realizing what she’s doing - A Zabi’s upbringing, but she in a way it is no different than yourself. With Tryphosa’s help you have realized something profound.

You are mirrors held up to one another, Vivima could have been your bond. She still could be.

That familiar timeless feeling is in the space all about you once more, and the time and distance that separates you from what could have been does not exist for a moment. Somewhere, many years ago, she pressed against a large door and listened to Degwin, Gihren, and Sasro discuss your father's heart attack.

>”You first, Viv. I’m the one who asked.” Come on, spit it out, Viv. She’s worse than trying to get information out of Casval sometimes.
>”...I’m going to speak about newtypes, and my father’s predictions.”
>Write-in. (What are you planning to say?)
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>>5988764
>>”You first, Viv. I’m the one who asked.” Come on, spit it out, Viv. She’s worse than trying to get information out of Casval sometimes.

>You are mirrors held up to one another, Vivima could have been your bond. She still could be.
Huh, I remember Tryphosa basically saying (don't remember if it was bluntly stated or not) the opportunity to bond with Viv had passed. Or was that just for flying, and now we have other bonding opportunities?
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>>5988764
>"I don't think I will say anything."
>”You first, Viv. I’m the one who asked.” Come on, spit it out, Viv. She’s worse than trying to get information out of Casval sometimes.
Damn gotta watch out for her. We're literally just casually talking and we're bonding more with Viv.
Also we should tell Tryph she doesn't have to look after Vivi. It's bad for everyone involved.
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>>5988764
>”You first, Viv. I’m the one who asked.” Come on, spit it out, Viv. She’s worse than trying to get information out of Casval sometimes.
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>>5988776
Thread six:
“She will bond with someone, if fate allows it.” Tryphosa lowers her red hood with her free hand, the other still holding loosely to your own, rain slick fingers entwined. Her hair is lovely, kept short but still managing to suit her well - Her cheeks redden, but she stays focused upon your inquiry. It’s best if neither of you linger in such fleeting thoughts. “It is not the same feeling, Felix…”

You nod, a peculiar familiarity has long accompanied Vivima, but never that timeless and unearthly feeling you often sense when near Tryphosa - Your bond. A connection beyond even time itself.

If such a connection was possible I believe the chance has passed us by… Passed you by. She thinks very highly of you.” Tryphosa’s words… Gladden you? Or do they? There’s a sting to them, being admired by a Zabi is nearly an insult. ”Perhaps in another life you could have bonded.”

“Can a person not have more than one?” You ask.

“We’re not truly newtypes.” The words hurt, but she’s right.

“...No, not fully realized ones.” You understand at once. Father’s predictions were never for something as limited as individual bonds, however deep they might be, and even Tryphosa is still far from his ideal vision. For now. “You don’t think I can bond with anyone else?”

“I cannot know.” Tryphosa replies hesitantly, treading across very uncertain ground. Another door swishes open ahead of you, and for a moment you’re back outside and passing through the rain storm on another platform. Soon you will be inside again. “There are many mysteries of our nature that I have yet to even begin to explore, even with my sisters. …Mysteries I’ve barely even begun to dream of. I share a deep connection with them, but it is nothing compared to our own.”

“...I’d really prefer a yes or a no.” You reply, but she’s answering as well as she can. A faint smile plays across her face as you reenter the institute and head downward now, toward the ‘older’ sections of the honestly still quite new facility. “There’s something off about her that I can’t place.”

“Perhaps it’s because she looks like your assistant?” Tryphosa offers out, and instantly you feel silly. Of course that must be some of it, you’ve very briefly toyed with the idea before but Vivima’s long unnoticed similarity to Mink still baffles you. It’s almost as if it was being blocked from your perception somehow, and that of your family as well. Everything is more confusing around Vivima.

“I missed it too at the announcement.” Tryphosa continues, sensing your inner thoughts, “I was focused on Elena, and she was focused on you… Vivima has yet to awaken, but I don’t believe it will be much longer. It would only take a small push. Do you love her?”
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>>5988764
>…Well, there is that
This dumb lesbian needs G3 gas correction NOW.
>”You first, Viv. I’m the one who asked.” Come on, spit it out, Viv. She’s worse than trying to get information out of Casval sometimes.
I'm starting to think Zeon Zum Deikun willed himself to die solely to escape the Zabi family.
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>>5988764
>”You first, Viv. I’m the one who asked.” Come on, spit it out, Viv. She’s worse than trying to get information out of Casval sometimes.

Though I will say that the urge to just cut the bullshit and directly attack the newtype elephant in the room with
>"Your family has been doing its best to destroy my father's ideals. You think Gihren and Kycilia won't do the same to me when I try to fulfill them?"
is growing stronger. In fact, count that as a vote for just that. Fuckin' Zabis man.
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>>5988764
>”You first, Viv. I’m the one who asked.” Come on, spit it out, Viv. She’s worse than trying to get information out of Casval sometimes
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>>5988802
Huh, interesting. So it's mostly vague, but Tryph thought it wasn't possible anymore. Yet the newtype-text in this update is leaning more on the side that there's still a chance.
Thank you QM for posting this, it's much appreciated. Do you manually look for past snippets of lore in the threads using ctrl+f or do you have someplace you put all potentially important stuff that might come up again?
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>>5988764
>>”You first, Viv. I’m the one who asked.” Come on, spit it out, Viv. She’s worse than trying to get information out of Casval sometimes.
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>>5988854
Ctrf+f and having a pretty good memory mostly, though I take physical notes sometimes too.
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>>5988764
>”...I’m going to speak about newtypes, and my father’s predictions.”
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>>5988776
>>5988798
>>5988813
>>5988834
>>5988974
Viv first. Wins, writing.

>>5989027
Newtypes and Deikun.

>>5988781
Viv+Nothing.

>>5988817
Reeeeee ZABIS GET OUT!
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>>5989175
damn, missed the vote
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“You first, Viv. I’m the one who asked.” You turn the question back on Vivima, holding out one hand to gesture toward her as you try to keep the conversation on track, “I’m the one who asked.”

“I suppose you were.” She gives a slight grin, hints of red still fading from her cheeks but growing again as she looks to Tryphosa; there’s something uncertain in her violet eyes, hints of indecision you see even if her cloudy mind conceals them. Her voice is sweet as honey, but unsteady, as if she was struggling against a great weight bearing down on her. “...I was planning to call for resistance against the Federation across the Sides, to reject their control by any means and follow Zeon’s example… But it doesn’t feel right. I think I will speak on newtypes instead.”

“It doesn’t?” You ask half in surprise, unused to hearing such hesitation from Vivima. She gets like this sometimes when she drinks, she confesses things, but you know her to be entirely sober now - hours of planning an operation don’t leave much time for drinking, and it isn’t her usual way regardless, “Isn’t that what we’ll be doing though, rejecting the Federation’s influence?”

“...Maybe it is. That’s what my brother will see,” She is speaking of Gihren rather than Dozle, you’re sure of that, “But as much foresight as he has, I’ve found his thoughts are very limited to Zeon. Everything is for Zeon, to expand Zeon, to gain allies for Zeon, to crush the enemies of Zeon, to extend Zeon’s control… his control. There is a better message to send than that, even if it is necessary for now. That isn’t the final step. Not for Zeon, not for our family.”

You exchange a glance with Tryphosa, her blue eyes filled with pride and guilt at what she’s done; many things are unforeseen, even to her far seeing gaze. Sometimes when a dream is shared, it gains a life of its own, beyond those who dreamt it.
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>>5989309

“He doesn’t understand newtypes, Felix, I have tried to speak with him on the matter - to tell him what Tryphosa has shown me, but he doesn’t grasp it.” Vivima struggles to get the words out at first, but they begin to come to her more and more easily, a fire growing in her voice, her gaze cast off on some distant time and place; for a moment you could swear you see a green light reflected in them, space and time distorting, white and yellow and pink lights flashing in the dark of space, the briefest glimpse of a thousand flapping wings, “He’s an oldtype, a visionary but not one of us, and even Kycilia only grasps at the truth to use it as a curious tool, however noble her intentions are. They cannot lead forever, their time is limited - they will destroy us if they continue on like this forever. I have to protect them from themselves. Of the Zabi bloodline, only I truly understand what must be done for our family, and our people. Perhaps Mineva will as well after me, or another. There is a narrow path before us, Felix.”

>”...I had not realized you saw things so clearly yet. What do you intend for Gihren then, when these first steps have finished?” You must be careful with your words, but it almost sounds as if Vivima is seeking control for herself.

>”...I was planning to speak on newtypes as well. I think we should do it together, Viv. A Deikun and a Zabi spreading the truth together for the first time in years - it’s been too long since that was really the case.” Fortune favors the bold, go right in for it. This must be an offer.

>”I have seen the path as well, Vivima. We must navigate it with care, and remain our own masters until the others see.” The path forward for newtypes is treacherous, there are already many trying to control you.

>Write-in.
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>>5989311
Hitting us hard with these choices, Contolist.
>>”I have seen the path as well, Vivima. We must navigate it with care, and remain our own masters until the others see.” The path forward for newtypes is treacherous, there are already many trying to control you.
I'll tentatively vote for this but I'd like to see other anons opinions. Any of the choices seem like a good point to wedge between her and her family.
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>>5989311
>”I have seen the path as well, Vivima. We must navigate it with care, and remain our own masters until the others see.” The path forward for newtypes is treacherous, there are already many trying to control you.
Interesting.
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>>5989311
>>5989342
>”...I had not realized you saw things so clearly yet. What do you intend for Gihren then, when these first steps have finished?” You must be careful with your words, but it almost sounds as if Vivima is seeking control for herself.
Actually I'll change to this. It might be more dangerous to talk about but I'm curious to see what her plans for her family are, since I doubt she'll help us with Casval's plans on killing them.
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>>5989311
>Write in
All of these choices have merit, so I will propose say all of them. Still, probably better to lead with
>”I have seen the path as well, Vivima. We must navigate it with care, and remain our own masters until the others see.” The path forward for newtypes is treacherous, there are already many trying to control you.
Followed by
>”...I was planning to speak on newtypes as well. I think we should do it together, Viv. A Deikun and a Zabi spreading the truth together for the first time in years - it’s been too long since that was really the case.” Fortune favors the bold, go right in for it. This must be an offer.
>”...I had not realized you saw things so clearly yet. What do you intend for Gihren then, when these first steps have finished?” You must be careful with your words, but it almost sounds as if Vivima is seeking control for herself.
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>>5989311
>”...I was planning to speak on newtypes as well. I think we should do it together, Viv. A Deikun and a Zabi spreading the truth together for the first time in years - it’s been too long since that was really the case.” Fortune favors the bold, go right in for it. This must be an offer.
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>>5989311
1)
>”I have seen the path as well, Vivima. We must navigate it with care, and remain our own masters until the others see.” The path forward for newtypes is treacherous, there are already many trying to control you.
>”...I had not realized you saw things so clearly yet. What do you intend for Gihren then, when these first steps have finished?” You must be careful with your words, but it almost sounds as if Vivima is seeking control for herself.
2)
>”...I had not realized you saw things so clearly yet. What do you intend for Gihren then, when these first steps have finished?” You must be careful with your words, but it almost sounds as if Vivima is seeking control for herself.
3)
>”I have seen the path as well, Vivima. We must navigate it with care, and remain our own masters until the others see.” The path forward for newtypes is treacherous, there are already many trying to control you.
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>>5989311
1)
>>5989382
Support
2)
>”I have seen the path as well, Vivima. We must navigate it with care, and remain our own masters until the others see.” The path forward for newtypes is treacherous, there are already many trying to control you.
>”...I had not realized you saw things so clearly yet. What do you intend for Gihren then, when these first steps have finished?” You must be careful with your words, but it almost sounds as if Vivima is seeking control for herself.
3)
>”I have seen the path as well, Vivima. We must navigate it with care, and remain our own masters until the others see.” The path forward for newtypes is treacherous, there are already many trying to control you.
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>>5989311
>>”...I had not realized you saw things so clearly yet. What do you intend for Gihren then, when these first steps have finished?” You must be careful with your words, but it almost sounds as if Vivima is seeking control for herself.
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>Kycilia only grasps at the truth to use it as a curious tool, however noble her intentions are.
>Kycilia's noble intentions
lol
whatever you say Viv

>>5989311
>”I have seen the path as well, Vivima. We must navigate it with care, and remain our own masters until the others see.” The path forward for newtypes is treacherous, there are already many trying to control you.
Be your own master. Something Felix has a hard time doing as is...
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>>5989311
This is better than I expected, but she still has that megalomania in her.
>"You talk about their noble intentions, but how noble are they? Dozle and Garma are honorable men, but Gihren and Kycilia have no qualms about how many people are hurt by their actions. That callousness is useful in a ruler in small doses, but there is nothing small about either of them." This is as close as she's come so far to admitting how deranged her brother and sister are. Strike at that crack and see what breaks.

Otherwise,
>”...I had not realized you saw things so clearly yet. What do you intend for Gihren then, when these first steps have finished?” You must be careful with your words, but it almost sounds as if Vivima is seeking control for herself.
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>>5989342
>>5989463
Path.

>>5989354
>>5989452
>>5989387 (2nd)
>>5989558 (2nd) Was tallying the votes as this one came in, good timing anon.
See clearly. Wins, writing.

>>5989382
>>5989417
All three.

>>5989384
Newtypes.
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“...I had not realized you saw things so clearly yet.” You choose your words carefully, wary of seizing too greatly on Vivima’s doubts about her older siblings roles in the future, but this is an opportunity you cannot allow to slip by - you have to ask, “What do you intend for Gihren and Kycilia then, when these first steps have finished?”

“...I” The question takes Viv off guard, her expression slightly shocked for a moment before recovering somewhat, violet eyes filling with worry, “I had not thought much on it yet. …I don’t like to think about it. Gihren’s too strong of a man to ever step down willingly.”

Strong? The word she’s looking for is stubborn, or maybe insane. But perhaps only the mad have the strength to prosper in the kind of world Gihren plans to usher in, the war the Earth Sphere is careening toward will be apocalyptic. …Of course you are planning to use the situation to your advantage as well, but you’re not ecstatic about it as Gihren is. It will be the single worst event in human history, dwarfing every other tragedy which has ever occurred all combined into one. In many ways, you will be made a villain by it, even if there is nothing which can be done to prevent it in one form or another now. There’s a small chance mankind may not even walk out of the other side intact enough to continue, civilizational collapse is unlikely thanks to protective measures that are being constructed by both sides, but it cannot be dismissed as a possibility.

“Then you would need to set him aside.” You say, trying to use softer words than something like ‘eliminate’ or ‘force him out’, she’ll understand though - cutthroat politics are, quite frankly, more her family’s area of expertise than your own. You’re more of an infiltrator, an accruer, not one to seize things suddenly. Not yet anyways. Perhaps you can seize Vivima, right now. “Kycilia as well. I know Degwin has doubts about the direction they’ve been leading Zeon.”

You guess, mostly, but it is an educated guess - mother speaks with him often, and you’ve seen how he interacts with his eldest children. There’s a stark lack of affection there, even if he remains bound by love and a growing apathy not to stop them. Degwin has almost entirely retired now, a very distant second fiddle to Gihren and with little energy of his own left to rule - Mineva has brought some measure of new life to the old prune of a man, and in his old age you suspect he regrets many of the things he has done. A realization a decade too late.
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>>5989649

“Father does… He called Gihren a monster once, under his breath, but I heard it clearly enough. I thought he was just being weak, he lost his strength after my mother died, from what Gihren says…” Viv violet eyes shut for a moment, the beginning of tears beginning to appear, her confident tone from moments before dissolving away into hesitation and a tremulous weakness, “...I’m very glad yours didn’t, Felix. You’re lucky to have her. …So is Dozle. I know she did that to try to protect you, but I think they’re good for each other.”

“They are,” You admit, still finding their marriage somewhat strange but having come around to accept the large Zabi as something of an uncle - never a father though, the Zabis killed the only man who could ever hold that title. “But we are speaking of your other older siblings. Dozle will accept a peaceful world.”

“He will. He’s a big softie.” Vivima sniffles a bit, trying to to break down entirely, a faint smile returning to her lips, “Garma too. Kycilia could be convinced, if… Well, you don’t understand her.”

“She’s a complicated woman.” Tryphosa says, not quite agreeing, but perhaps Vivima sees it as such, “It’s mostly Gihren’s fault, isn’t it?

“He…” Vivima swallows hard and looks away, arms crossed and looking miserable - those tears are flowing freely now, her face a mask of pain, “Yes. And father, and Sasro… even Dozle some. She needed a sister earlier. She isn’t like she was years ago though, trying to be like them. She’s learned.”

Kycilia learning? Ridiculous, she’s almost as power hungry as Gihren is, and just as cruel in her own way. Viv’s views aren’t just tinted by her affection for family, they’re drowning in several buckets of paint.

Viv continues unsteadily, “I think she would stop if we have won, and… and I ask her to. She loves France, after the remaining population has been moved to the Sides, maybe she could… retire there. In one of the historical settlements. Be it’s governor, maybe.”

You have strong doubts, this sounds more like Vivima trying to desperately cope with a far harsher likelihood. The ‘historical settlements’ are something you’ve heard discussed among Gihrenists before, but it was actually your father’s idea originally, that some of mankind’s historical legacy on earth should be preserved even if the species as a whole has moved far beyond it. The earth will not be entirely depopulated. Only enough will remain to remember the past, not to repeat it, a small enough footprint that the world can begin to truly heal from the destruction wrought by centuries of industry. …Kycilia living in some remote cultural village is difficult to imagine. What’s she going to do, find some man and just settle down in a castle out in the middle of nowhere? It’s almost silly, a childish hope. She's a snake, she'd die without her plots. Right?
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>>5989651

“And Gihren?” You ask, setting aside issues with Kycilia’s ‘retirement’ for now.

“...I don’t know, Felix.” Vivima looks defeated, she isn’t able to face what you know will have to be done. “A war is needed, he is our war leader… but I don’t know what comes after that for him, when I lead.”

Ah, so she’s said it directly now. There’s not escaping that Zabi megalomania, is there?

“When we lead.” Vivima emphasizes the plural.

Your eyes widen.

>”That’s a bridge we can cross when we get there. He has a role to play consolidating Zeon for now, as you say.” …Gah, disgusting! Vile! You can barely stomach saying it, but Gihren is useful for consolidating Zeon’s powerbase in the short term. War is coming, and coming quickly.
>”...We?” Uh oh, what has Tryphosa done? You can feel Tyrph's guilt and jealousy welling up in equal measure.
>”You know Gihren won’t accept it. You can't ignore the truth of that, Viv, or you won't be ready when the time comes.” No, don’t let it slip away, push now - she acknowledges the issue, force her to really face it down. Damn the risks, flank speed!
>Write-in.
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>>5989653
Tryph's*
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>>5989653
1)
>”That’s a bridge we can cross when we get there. He has a role to play consolidating Zeon for now, as you say.” …Gah, disgusting! Vile! You can barely stomach saying it, but Gihren is useful for consolidating Zeon’s powerbase in the short term. War is coming, and coming quickly.
2)
>”...We?” Uh oh, what has Tryphosa done? You can feel Tyrph's guilt and jealousy welling up in equal measure.
That third option feels too good to be true. My shadowrunning senses are tingling.
I sense a trap, or at least some huge consequence that'll bite us later if Vivi's heart softens to Gihren at all. I mean he saved her life and took a bullet for her.
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>>5989653
>”You know Gihren won’t accept it. You can't ignore the truth of that, Viv, or you won't be ready when the time comes.” No, don’t let it slip away, push now - she acknowledges the issue, force her to really face it down. Damn the risks, flank speed!

Or

>>5989653
>”...We?” Uh oh, what has Tryphosa done? You can feel Tyrph's guilt and jealousy welling up in equal measure.
>”You know Gihren won’t accept it. You can't ignore the truth of that, Viv, or you won't be ready when the time comes.” No, don’t let it slip away, push now - she acknowledges the issue, force her to really face it down. Damn the risks, flank speed!

DOWN THE THROAT WE GO.
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>>5989653
>”...We?” Uh oh, what has Tryphosa done? You can feel Tyrph's guilt and jealousy welling up in equal measure.
>”That’s a bridge we can cross when we get there. He has a role to play consolidating Zeon for now, as you say.” …Gah, disgusting! Vile! You can barely stomach saying it, but Gihren is useful for consolidating Zeon’s powerbase in the short term. War is coming, and coming quickly.
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>>5989653
1)
>”...We?” Uh oh, what has Tryphosa done? You can feel Tyrph's guilt and jealousy welling up in equal measure.
>”That’s a bridge we can cross when we get there. He has a role to play consolidating Zeon for now, as you say.” …Gah, disgusting! Vile! You can barely stomach saying it, but Gihren is useful for consolidating Zeon’s powerbase in the short term. War is coming, and coming quickly.
2)
>”...We?” Uh oh, what has Tryphosa done? You can feel Tyrph's guilt and jealousy welling up in equal measure.
3)
>”That’s a bridge we can cross when we get there. He has a role to play consolidating Zeon for now, as you say.” …Gah, disgusting! Vile! You can barely stomach saying it, but Gihren is useful for consolidating Zeon’s powerbase in the short term. War is coming, and coming quickly.
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>>5989653
1)
>”...We?” Uh oh, what has Tryphosa done? You can feel Tyrph's guilt and jealousy welling up in equal measure.
>”That’s a bridge we can cross when we get there. He has a role to play consolidating Zeon for now, as you say.” …Gah, disgusting! Vile! You can barely stomach saying it, but Gihren is useful for consolidating Zeon’s powerbase in the short term. War is coming, and coming quickly.
2)
>”That’s a bridge we can cross when we get there. He has a role to play consolidating Zeon for now, as you say.” …Gah, disgusting! Vile! You can barely stomach saying it, but Gihren is useful for consolidating Zeon’s powerbase in the short term. War is coming, and coming quickly.
I agree >>5989657 vivi may have a change of heart third option is too dangerous
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>>5989653
>>5989657
I'll change my vote to:
1)
>”That’s a bridge we can cross when we get there. He has a role to play consolidating Zeon for now, as you say.” …Gah, disgusting! Vile! You can barely stomach saying it, but Gihren is useful for consolidating Zeon’s powerbase in the short term. War is coming, and coming quickly.
>”...We?” Uh oh, what has Tryphosa done? You can feel Tyrph's guilt and jealousy welling up in equal measure.
2)
>”That’s a bridge we can cross when we get there. He has a role to play consolidating Zeon for now, as you say.” …Gah, disgusting! Vile! You can barely stomach saying it, but Gihren is useful for consolidating Zeon’s powerbase in the short term. War is coming, and coming quickly.
3)
>”...We?” Uh oh, what has Tryphosa done? You can feel Tyrph's guilt and jealousy welling up in equal measure.

>>5989664
Anon do you have a preference for either of your votes?
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>>5989653
>”...We?” Uh oh, what has Tryphosa done? You can feel Tyrph's guilt and jealousy welling up in equal measure.
>”That’s a bridge we can cross when we get there. He has a role to play consolidating Zeon for now, as you say.” …Gah, disgusting! Vile! You can barely stomach saying it, but Gihren is useful for consolidating Zeon’s powerbase in the short term. War is coming, and coming quickly.
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>>5989679
My preference is in order.

I have no need for numbers made by Earthnoids.
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>>5989685
>I have no need for numbers made by Earthnoids.
Based.
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>>5989664 (We+Flank speed)
Flank speed!

>>5989668
>>5989674
>>5989678
>>5989679
>>5989682
We?+Bridge to cross later. Writing.
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Kill Zabis. Behead Zabis. Roundhouse kick a Zabi into the concrete. Slam dunk Mineva into the trashcan. Crucify Vivima. Defecate in Kycillia's food. Hit Degwin with the solar ray. Stir fry Dozle in a wok. Toss Garma into an active volcano. Urinate into a Zabi's Zaku cockpit. Judo throw Glemy into a wood chipper. Twist Zabi followers' heads off. Report Zabis to the Titans. Karate chop Axis in half. Curb stomp pregnant Zenna. Target Mars Zeon with the Gryps 2 Laser. Crush spacenoids in the true gravity of Earth. Liquefy Zabis with a vat of acid. Eat spacenoids. Dissect newtypes. Exterminate space colonies with G3 gas. Stomp Zabi skulls with steel toed boots. Lobotomize Kycillia. Mandatory abortions for Zenna. Grind Mineva's fetus in the garbage disposal. Drown Zabis in Minovsky particles. Vaporize Solomon with the Solar System. Kick Degwin down the stairs. Feed Vivima to the Blue Destiny. Slice Zabis with a beam saber.
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“That’s a bridge we can cross when we get there, he has a role to play consolidating Zeon for now, as you say. ...But what do you mean by we?” You question, the plural drawing more of your attention than it normally would. It takes Vivima a few moments to recover, and you’re left to soak up pangs of guilt and a brooding jealousy from Tryphosa. Thoughts of Elena flicker through your mind for some reason.

When Viv has finally composed herself enough to speak again, wiping away one last tear wit the side of her hand, she meets your gaze steadily - those violet eyes of hers can pierce nearly as deeply as Tryphosa’s at times, they stare right through you, “Yes, Felix, we. I… I still hope that Garma might show signs of being a newtype.”

“I don’t understand.” You furrow your brow and try to think things through; why mention that at all? “Why bring up your brother? You don’t think he could rule?”

“No. No more oldtypes. Never again, once this is done.” Vivima shakes her head, swiping away the idea with the wave of a hand, “Artesia could do it, but Garma cannot, and Casval is… Not going to accept what I am about to propose. Not really, I know he would only ever resent me.”

“...What are you about to propose?” You ask, a growing sense of dread filling you as suspicions begin to mount.

“Marriage.” Vivima replies solemnly, her eyes closing for a moment as if she were expecting to take a lash to the back, “...A political one. I know you love Elena, that’s okay. I don’t want to split you.”

You start to laugh for a moment, but that dies almost immediately; this isn’t a joke at all, not some strange Zabi prank - The offer is sincere, even if the marriage would be for show. You aren't actually married to Elena yet, even if you're about as close as you can be without crossing that line yet. You already think of her as your wife, and your wedding isn't far off... it will be mostly in secret of course, you keep her and your children out of the public eye as much as you can.

>”...Marriage? To each other? I… I don’t know, but maybe? Damn, Viv, that’s not where I was expecting talking about tomorrow to lead…” The politics make sense, but talk about a bombshell to drop. You need time to think.
>”...I can’t do that to Elena, Viv, even if it’s just for show.” …What will she do if you say no though? That’s almost as alarming as the idea itself, she sounded out of options. Maybe she would go to Casval anyways, what a horror show that would be.
>”...I’ll have to talk with Elena, but if it’s for the future then… I think she’ll understand.” She won’t like it, but pulling Vivima further away from Gihren means the eventual coup stands a great chance of success - and less risk to you son and daughter. Mother will understand at least.
>Write-in.
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>>5989809
>”...Marriage? To each other? I… I don’t know, but maybe? Damn, Viv, that’s not where I was expecting talking about tomorrow to lead…” The politics make sense, but talk about a bombshell to drop. You need time to think.
That threw me for a loop. I was expecting her to suggest marrying Tryph or some shit
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>>5989809
1)
>”...I can’t do that to Elena, Viv, even if it’s just for show.” …What will she do if you say no though? That’s almost as alarming as the idea itself, she sounded out of options. Maybe she would go to Casval anyways, what a horror show that would be.
2)
>”...Marriage? To each other? I… I don’t know, but maybe? Damn, Viv, that’s not where I was expecting talking about tomorrow to lead…” The politics make sense, but talk about a bombshell to drop. You need time to think.
However I can't help but feel like a marriage to Viv, even a political one, is going to be a bad idea.
I can't think of a funny quip to make. Incestuous royal family tree becomes the family wreath.

>>5989792
Based?
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>>5989809
>”...I can’t do that to Elena, Viv, even if it’s just for show.” …What will she do if you say no though? That’s almost as alarming as the idea itself, she sounded out of options. Maybe she would go to Casval anyways, what a horror show that would be.
huh
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>>5989809
>”...Marriage? To each other? I… I don’t know, but maybe? Damn, Viv, that’s not where I was expecting talking about tomorrow to lead…” The politics make sense, but talk about a bombshell to drop. You need time to think.
IIRC, our father also did his fair share of unscrupulous shit in order to get his political career underway-- not the least of which included leading on a rich, lonely old woman while pursuing his own goals. I think it's worth thinking about, even if it's abhorrent. Outright dismissal is only likely to make Viv more desperate. What other options do we have in turning her and stopping Ghiren and Kycilia?
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>>5989809
>>”...I can’t do that to Elena, Viv, even if it’s just for show.” …What will she do if you say no though? That’s almost as alarming as the idea itself, she sounded out of options. Maybe she would go to Casval anyways, what a horror show that would be.
I am very fucking angry.
>Make our anger and betrayal known to Tryph
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>>5989809
>>5989861
+1
But let's have it be with newtype empathy and not actually say anything.

Fuckin politics man. Glad we had Cas deal with political stuff instead of us.
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>>5989809
1)
>”...Marriage? To each other? I… I don’t know, but maybe? Damn, Viv, that’s not where I was expecting talking about tomorrow to lead…” The politics make sense, but talk about a bombshell to drop. You need time to think.

2)
>”...I’ll have to talk with Elena, but if it’s for the future then… I think she’ll understand.” She won’t like it, but pulling Vivima further away from Gihren means the eventual coup stands a great chance of success - and less risk to you son and daughter. Mother will understand at least.

>>5989792
No love for Gihren?
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>>5989809
>”...Marriage? To each other? I… I don’t know, but maybe? Damn, Viv, that’s not where I was expecting talking about tomorrow to lead…” The politics make sense, but talk about a bombshell to drop. You need time to think.
I struggle to understand what this would even do politically anyways Artesia and garma will eventually marry Dozle and our mother are a thing the family is already going to be linked in the public eye what does a third marriage do?
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>>5989809
>>5989812
Just make mine
>”...I can’t do that to Elena, Viv, even if it’s just for show.” …What will she do if you say no though? That’s almost as alarming as the idea itself, she sounded out of options. Maybe she would go to Casval anyways, what a horror show that would be.
The other anon brings up a good point. Why would this be necessary?
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>>5989809
>”...Marriage? To each other? I… I don’t know, but maybe? Damn, Viv, that’s not where I was expecting talking about tomorrow to lead…” The politics make sense, but talk about a bombshell to drop. You need time to think.

With a splash of
>”...I’ll have to talk with Elena, but if it’s for the future then… I think she’ll understand.” She won’t like it, but pulling Vivima further away from Gihren means the eventual coup stands a great chance of success - and less risk to you son and daughter. Mother will understand at least.

Could be a way to tear the Zabis apart, especially as they all reach for the crown.
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>>5989883
I’m honestly on the fence on this I’m sure Elena is not going to like this one bit but I’m kind of worried what viv might do if we decline
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>>5989809
>Marriage.” Vivima replies solemnly, her eyes closing for a moment as if she were expecting to take a lash to the back, “...A political one. I know you love Elena, that’s okay. I don’t want to split you.”
After this shit
>>5989792
This is double based.

>”...I can’t do that to Elena, Viv, even if it’s just for show.” …What will she do if you say no though? That’s almost as alarming as the idea itself, she sounded out of options. Maybe she would go to Casval anyways, what a horror show that would be.
>>5989896
>I’m honestly on the fence on this I’m sure Elena is not going to like this one bit but I’m kind of worried what viv might do if we decline
>what viv might do
Get killed by Casval for(if) fucking with the only family he has left?
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>>5989809

>”...Marriage? To each other? I… I don’t know, but maybe? Damn, Viv, that’s not where I was expecting talking about tomorrow to lead…” The politics make sense, but talk about a bombshell to drop. You need time to think.

>”...I’ll have to talk with Elena, but if it’s for the future then… I think she’ll understand.” She won’t like it, but pulling Vivima further away from Gihren means the eventual coup stands a great chance of success - and less risk to you son and daughter. Mother will understand at least.

Anon's really out here wanting total Zabi death and victory but not willing to do what is required for such a thing. Even though we've gaslight typ and our sister to do it.
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>>5989809
>”...I’ll have to talk with Elena, but if it’s for the future then… I think she’ll understand.” She won’t like it, but pulling Vivima further away from Gihren means the eventual coup stands a great chance of success - and less risk to you son and daughter. Mother will understand at least.

It's going to make the reality that we're still quite likely to have to kill her even worse, but we have to drag Vivima away from the Gihren bloc if we can. The good of humanity is far more important than Felix and Elena's personal happiness.
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>>5989811
>>5989845
>>5989874
>>5989883
>>5989886
>>5989970
Marriage? Maybe. Wins, writing.

>>5989814
>>5989861
>>5989867
>>5989885
>>5989954
Can't.

>>5989988
Talk with Elena, tentative yes.
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>>5990009
Contolist just a question, why are combinations like >>5989970 and >>5989886 considered part of the Maybe option? The latter two are basically just agreeing with the proposal, while the option itself is about an uncertain answer.
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>>5990009
Disloyal cucks lot of ya
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>>5990009
Contolist I’m a bit confused to what viv hopes to accomplish with the marriage given that Artesia and garma and dozle and our mother already exist
>>5990020
I’m mostly trying to talk with elena about it I’m expecting her to say no anyways
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>>5990024
>I’m mostly trying to talk with elena about it I’m expecting her to say no anyways
She'll probably say something along the lines of "if it makes you happy, I'll let it happen" or something like that. I'm not really expecting much resistance from her, I'd be surprised if she does show some spine with how friendly Vivi has been towards her.
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Happiness has very little to do with this arrangement. We need to undermine Gihren and Kycilia's hold on Zeon, and if marrying Vivima is what gets us that goal, then that's worth the pain.
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>>5990028
Ends justify the means, and all of that.
We shouldn't of let Glemy participate in that public family affair, it made Gihren extremely mad. I doubt he's forgiven the Deikun side of the family for that misstep.
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>>5990020
I never wanted the Earthnoid whore anyway. Also she wants total Zabi death as well.

>>5990024

The marriage is between 2 new-types and ontop of that, Viv has more lean in the crazy ladies camp of New-types. I think
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>>5990018
I assumed the hard spacing indicated alternate choices, some anons have been kind of sloppy with the alternate voting rules and it's the first thread in eight months so I'm not being too much of a stickler abour it. For the love of god please use numbers though anons, or at least an 'or'. As for the splash, it's the same reason I grouped the can't+angry newtype communication together with the other votes can't votes, it's all close enough. I read it as a slightly stronger maybe rather than a yes, since the maybe option was the primary pick and the other only a 'splash'.

If I separated them all out more strictly it doesn't change the outcome, maybe would still win.

>>5990024
Read what Viv has said in the last two updates more closely. >>5990032 Gets some of it, but it goes further than that.
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>>5990040
You mean >>5989861 and >>5989867 ? I'd argue that it's less of a passing feeling than an actual meaningful part of the decision like combining two of the votes are.
But since it's counting those two votes as 'Maybe' instead of 'Tentative Yes', and not just swerving the vote into giving the least voted option the win, I can deal with it.
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>>5990040
You'll never get me to use numbers, Letters and Numbers don't belong in the same community Teach!
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>>5990044
>less of a
*more of a
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>>5990044
Yes, those two.

>>5990046
Please use an 'or' then, or some other way to indicate alternatives more clearly. I take it that I understood your intent correctly this time?
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>>5990051
You always do boss and I always put the more important on first.
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“...Marriage? To each other?” The proposal is a complete shock, leaving you dumbfounded and blinking for a few moments, unsure of how to further respond - too many thoughts are racing through your head. The politics of it make some sense, it could even help to bring Vivima to your side, but what will Elena think? “I… I don’t know, but maybe? Damn, Viv, that’s not where I was expecting talking about tomorrow to lead. I thought we’d line up our speeches, or… Not this.”

“I know it’s a lot to ask all at once, I wasn’t planning to do it this way either….” Vivima replies hesitantly, dropping down from the tall desk, putting her at a lower height than you now. Her lips form a very nervous smile, violet eyes wide and hopeful but expecting failure. For a moment you see Mink, but it’s just a trick of the lighting. “But I’ve been considering it for months now. It’s the only way forward I can see, and… and you asked. If you need time to think it over and talk with Elena, that’s okay. I don't want to hurt her, she's a friend.”

“It’s going to take more than just some time to think, Viv,” You reply, looking down at her and then glancing at Tryphosa. You understand that this isn’t where Tryph intended this to go, she didn’t give Viv the idea, but a very small, very jealous part of her wants to spite Elena. She’s ashamed of it. “There are many things that need to be discussed. Why us?”

“We’re the only ones who fit what is needed, if there was another way I would choose it.” Vivima begins to explain more clearly, some of the megalomaniacal air about her dissipating now that she’s no longer sitting atop the desk like some odd throne, “Only newtypes have a place at the highest levels of leadership in the future we’ll create. Artesia is a newtype and I trust she will do very well, but Garma… isn’t. I hope I am mistaken, but I have never seen any indication he is. Casval… You know your brother, Felix. We’d be a disaster together, and reaching entirely beyond our family, risking splitting it apart again, would only invite worse disaster…"

Vivima takes a moment before continuing, slowly collecting herself more and more but still speaking from the heart, “Everything which has divided Zeon for the last decade was because different factions tried to lead. The purges, the assassinations, everything was because of factionalism. I want to end that prevent it from returning. We must be united, for the sake of our people and shared family. Dozle and your mother were a first step, they made us one, and Garma and Artesia may be another step, but if they have newtype children it will take years for them to come into their own and be ready to lead. Mineva, Max, Luna, Glemy - I have high hopes for them, but our people need leadership after the war. No one but us can do that... I trust you. You’re my best friend, Felix, we can save Zeon together.”
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>>5990102

She’s said it again. Are you really her best friend? That’s almost sad, but you know she struggles to connect with anyone but her biological family - everyone is either a sycophant or an enemy. Her ‘friends’ you’ve encountered before were really just acquaintances, and excluding family the closest thing she’s had to a friend otherwise would be Mink… which is very complicated to say the least, or Tryphosa, or even Artesia or your mother. You would have expected Tryphosa, with how infatuated Viv has been, but that Zabi girl has never been an easy one to read.

“...You see a very narrow path forward then, to reach a time when the next generation can take over.” In your mind the plan which Vivima has laid out is slowly growing clearer. It is a kind of newtype supremacy, softer than Gihren’s spacenoid supremacy she formerly subscribed to, though you haven’t yet heard enough to know if it is different only in degree or in kind. A royal rule to safeguard the new era. Part of you hates that, father thought the very idea of nobility was despicable... but you cannot deny that you are a more capable leader than most. Even father was almost a dictator, so strong was his cult of personality. He made many compromises to bring about the future he foresaw.... Like never marrying your mother.

“The transition of power won’t be safe for years after the war.” Vivima confirms your understanding to be correct, “The Federation isn’t the last enemy we’ll have to subdue.”

“Who else after the Federation?” You question, already guessing from the feelings emanating from your bond with Tryphosa.

“The cabal controlling the Jovians.” Your bond speaks aloud, but you can feel the pain behind her words, this isn’t easy for Tryphosa to speak on. It never has been, conflict remains deeply wedged within her heart. “My father, and Dogatie, and all the others. They want to twist the future to their whims, not guide others to it - my father still tries to call his bond back from her dreams… He may even have succeeded. Everything will be corrupted if they are not stopped.”

>”The energy fleet isn’t something to play games with, we’ll need to handle them with finesse. …We can discuss this all more tomorrow after the dust has settled, I need time to think.” [COMMENCE THE REBELLION]
>Discuss things further. ALL write-in dialogue suggestions will be considered a vote for further discussion, though only winning options will be written up. There might be a need for a run off vote to pick. Support other anons if you see something you like.
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>>5990106
>”The energy fleet isn’t something to play games with, we’ll need to handle them with finesse. …We can discuss this all more tomorrow after the dust has settled, I need time to think.” [COMMENCE THE REBELLION]
That's a can to kick if I've ever seen one.
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>Casval… You know your brother, Felix. We’d be a disaster together, and reaching entirely beyond our family, risking splitting it apart again, would only invite worse disaster…"
You know what, that's actually not such a bad idea Viv.

>>5990106
>"...I don't think Casval would be fully opposed to the idea of marrying you, even if it's just a political marriage. You've both very driven and have similar ideas about Contolism."
I want to also tell Tryphosa that she doesn't need to 'babysit' Vivima anymore, but I don't know if this is the right moment to do so. We could use newtype mindreading, but that might be risky in front of Vivi.
Reposting the vote because I did the greentext wrong.
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>>5990116
>You know what, that's actually not such a bad idea Viv.
Only problem with that is that we've already told Cas not to do something like that. Otherwise yeah, it wouldn't be a bad plan.
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>>5990106
>”The energy fleet isn’t something to play games with, we’ll need to handle them with finesse. …We can discuss this all more tomorrow after the dust has settled, I need time to think.” [COMMENCE THE REBELLION]

>>5990117
Well we already have Elena and Tryphosa, Casval didn't have anyone like that at the time.
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>>5990120
>Casval didn't have anyone like that at the time.
Felix knows Lalah exists and is Cas's potential bond, just not where and who she is specifically. We had a premonition of her in one of the scenes before the dance.
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>>5990106
>”The energy fleet isn’t something to play games with, we’ll need to handle them with finesse. …We can discuss this all more tomorrow after the dust has settled, I need time to think.” [COMMENCE THE REBELLION]

Ponderous thoughts to ponder.
Who knows, depending on how events kick off will determine things.
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>>5990106
>>5990116
+1
Fuck it, we ball.
Felix would be terrible at separating her from Gihren or at least Kycilia. This is more a job for Casval.
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>>5990122
Of course, but having knowledge of someone and having a relationship with them is completely different, and as far as we know, Cas has neither at the moment in regards to Lalah.
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>>5990126
>Cas has neither at the moment in regards to Lalah.
True, just saying that we actively told him not to do it before hand.
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>>5990117
>Only problem with that is that we've already told Cas not to do something like that.
>Hey Cas, you shouldn't marry for political reasons but I will even though you're way more committed to the plan than me
If anyone marries Vivima it should be Casval. He won't let feelings get in the way while Felix might actually become soft enough to spare Kycilia and Gihren. Killing his wife's family is something I just don't see Felix doing.
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>>5990129
>If anyone marries Vivima it should be Casval.
I 100% agree, I just don't like going back on something we've already told him.
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>>5990131
But we'd be a hypocrite if we married Vivima for politics. Which let's be real Felix will likely start developing feelings for Vivima if they do get married, he has too many doubts to not at least think about it.
And Vivima literally just gave us the reason why we should marry her, to unite the families more. Like another anon said aren't going to move her from her ideas, she'll move us.
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>>5990133
>But we'd be a hypocrite if we married Vivima for politics.
You misunderstand me then, I don't think Felix should marry her even for solid political reasons. I prefer her as a desperate femcel.
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>>5990106
>Why can't Tryphosa sing instead?
This is something I'm personally curious about.
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>>5990106
>”The energy fleet isn’t something to play games with, we’ll need to handle them with finesse. …We can discuss this all more tomorrow after the dust has settled, I need time to think.” [COMMENCE THE REBELLION]

>>5990131
>>5990129
Cas wants to KILL almost every Zabi, If the Zabi's get killed off and his 'wife' is the last one who then dies, you end up just repeating the cycle guys. We need to break the cycles. or atleast let Cas be able to act while the Viv is kept isolated and then we can easily kill her.
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>>5990145
Who says he won't kill her first?
>spoiler
No chance Felix will be able to have what it takes to kill her outright, especially if her 'marries' her.
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>>5990148
We as in royal, not we as in Felix.

Also, You kill her first and the REST of the Zabi's are gonna be asking alot of pointed questions.
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>>5990149
Honestly this makes the justification of suggesting Casval as a suitor much better, since this is something "we" can do to have her die.
>Also, You kill her first and the REST of the Zabi's are gonna be asking alot of pointed questions.
Casval got away with it when killing Garma, he can get away with it if he kills Vivima. I have to agree with the other anon here, Felix doesn't have what it takes and will do his best to protect her if she 'marries' him.
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>>5990152
you mean in canon, when they are in the middle of the war and the 2 sides of factionlism are already on fire? When they random/well known ACE/hero?

The death of Garma is vastly different in canon then this shit.
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>>5990154
I mean Cas is far more dangerous and clever than Felix. He will find the perfect situation to have her die and will likely be able to divide the family more than Felix ever could hope of doing.
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>>5990155
Cas is only that way because Anon's gimped him in certain ways, WAY earlier in threads and we are this weird middle-management thing.

no i'm not salty, Just find it funny.
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You know, now I'm not so sure what the problem is here, Felix has already made a committment with Casval and Artesia to get rid of anyone who was related to their father's death, the only real contention was from Cas about killing the rest of them, which Felix and Artesia both don't want to happen. Marrying Vivima strengthens a newtype future more than anything else, since she's already seeming to be reflective on her family's actual actions now, and with Tryph there helping along, there's no reason she can't be brought further to see more of Kycilia's issues than she currently does.
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>>5990162
I think people just don’t want to hurt Elena
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>>5990157
I'm glad we agree that Cas is the best one to trust with Zabi killing (unless I'm misunderstanding and you want Casval to be softer or something lmao).
We have to be 100% behind Casval's plans right now against the Zabis, so we can help him change in the future. And unfortunately Vivima is deeply rooted in trying to unify the families, even going so far as asking for Felix to marry her to accomplish that end. The part that I think is plausible is that Felix might buy into it if he keeps being around her, he's not as stubborn in his beliefs or plans.

>>5990162
Kycilia is far more closer to Vivima than Gihren is, this has been said many times in the past threads. And even then, we don't know if she'd go through with killing Gihren, since he did save her life.
The main issue here is the fact that Vivima is a darker mirror to Felix. Can we say that Felix would be able to kill Casval for Vivima's sake, if it came down to it? How can we expect her to do the same for us?
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>>5990165
I disagree with you saying Felix isn't sturbbon enough to stick with his Bliefs, Considering the shit his put Type and his sister through. we are just more in-line with how Kycilia operates.

I do believe Cas is the best one to kill Zabi's, I do want total Zabi death. I also have a few others i want dead, but anon's would riot

>>5990164
Nah Fuck her, She can die.

>>5990162
Most people don't want to hurt the Earthnoid lower lifeform more or less, But they also don't trust Viv very much or her attenment towards Kycilia even though its starting to sway.
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>>5990165
That scenario isn't quite what's being put forth by Vivima here, the actual question would be more like: Would Felix be able to kill Casval for the sake of a better tomorrow for humanity? Which is a much harder question to answer for Felix I'd think. I don't think it would just be a simple yes or no for him, and going down that line, Vivima either, which is why taking any opportunity to have any influence, even if it ends up both ways, can nudge the needle further the way that we want.
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>>5990164
Don't forget Felix's kids too.
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>>5990166
Are you actually serious about this Elena hateboner or is it a bit
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>>5990174
Oh i'm 100% on team fuck Elena. Its really not a bit, and I've been since we ran into her all the threads ago. I wanted Cursed CNT/NT insanity. All the others have either never came back or refuse to be vocal anymore.
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>>5990166
>we are just more in-line with how Kycilia operates.
>Felix is becoming more like a Zabi
Ah fuck, now that's something we need to change as soon as possible.
>I also have a few others i want dead, but anon's would riot
>Nah Fuck her, She can die.
Yes, well that's pretty clear who you're talking about lmao

>>5990167
>even if it ends up both ways, can nudge the needle further the way that we want.
I don't think that's a scenario which is worth it in the end. If we keep doing things for the greater good then we are no different than the Zabis, and Felix is already too much of a Zabi as is.
And to think that Felix's influence on Vivima is even comparable to the influence she'll have on Felix is something we'll have to disagree on.
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>>5990177
True lmao.

Also, We are doing this for the greater whole of spacenoids. The Zabi's are doing it for the "greater good" of the spacenoids under THEM.

Also Felix is less swayed by women I think now that he had his kids, or atleast until booze is involved.
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>>5990177
>for the greater good
I'm not saying that it would be true, but if Vivima can be made to think that her brother and sister are actively holding back the progress of humanity, and by extention herself as well, then such a scenario can be made to appear true to her, regardless of whether it's really the case or not.
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>>5990177
>If we keep doing things for the greater good then we are no different than the Zabis,
What are you smoking, that's the exact opposite of the Zabis. They're a bunch of megalomaniacal cunts. Gihren manages to rile up Zeon so much he starts an actual nuclear holocaust and gasses like half the spacenoid population in a week.
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>>5990183
Hold on now, Its like half of the ENTIRE human race and its not just Gihren. The EFF joins in on the war crimes.
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>>5990184
Correct, I'm talking specifically about how Gihren gasses feddie allied space colonies in the first week of the OYW. The nuclear exchange is what killed most of the earthnoids.
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>>5990179
>A royal rule to safeguard the new era. Part of you hates that, father thought the very idea of nobility was despicable... but you cannot deny that you are a more capable leader than most.
And Felix isn't heading in that direction? He's already starting to entertain those ideas.

>>5990180
I think you're underestimating Vivima's love for her family, as well as overestimating Felix's commitment to Casval's plan (and his father's ideas as well, since I think it's being implied he's slowly slipping away from them).

>>5990183
I probably said it in an incorrect way, but what I'm referring to is how Gihren would throw a space colony and do war crimes to secure power, while Char would throw a space colony and do war crimes because it's something he believes in. In the end the actions are pretty much identical, but the meaning behind them changes.
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>>5990193
You can have a safeguard in place, and guard against stuff without Nobility tho?
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>>5990193
>In the end the actions are pretty much identical, but the meaning behind them changes.
Ah, a horseshoe guy. How about we just don't gas and drop colonies? Kinda hard to be 'just like the Zabis' if we don't try and genocide everything that moves.
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>>5990193
I don't think it's an underestimation though. That's the point of chipping away at that love until it's fragile enough for her to at least not actively fight the deaths of Gihren and Kycilia.
I don't see any sign of Felix not committing to the plan that was agreed upon, now whether that's the same as the plan you're referring to is a different matter.
Felix still goes around quoting his father and is painfully aware of his writings, temperament, and beliefs. Simply considering a measure that would go against something his dad didn't like doesn't mean he's coming apart at the seams cause Zabi influence.
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>>5990164
I am ambivalent about hurting Elena, especially if marrying eventually neutralizes (yes also a very ambivalent way of putting that) Vivima. It could ultimately protect her and the kids if they are out of the Deikun crossfire and away from the war.

>>5990167
Felix would not be able to currently. He is susceptible to influence which is a worrying trend, especially if he did go through with marrying Vivima, but I am unsure about what activities we could put him through to reinforce his willpower.
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>>5990162
I can only think about how the Zabis will react to their precious Vivima being the side woman in a relationship lol
It'll probably be a death sentence to Elena and maybe even the half-earthnoid kids, which I'm sure at least on anon will be happy to hear.
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>>5990194
He'd be an actual prince that's married to the Zabi royal dynasty. You think Felix will be able to resist it? He's become a bit fond of the Zabi palace and generally lives in luxury with servants and political power and stuff. It reminds me of when people were shocked that Felix was starting to seriously doubt everything he believed while in the ballroom. He doesn't even object to Elena calling him a prince. Now all we need is a royal wedding to cement the two dynasties.
Tryphosa warned us that we'd slip into being a snob, and I'm inclined to believe her.

>>5990197
I agree on that.

>>5990200
I think we'll have to disagree on that front then.

>>5990201
Hang out with Casval more? Remind ourselves of how evil the Zabis are? Not exactly things we can realistically do when married to one and having to act like a loving couple in public lmao
I'm almost tempted to vote to marry Viv, just to see the new doubts that will come into Felix's mind.
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>>5990201
One of the best ways to build willpower is to actually resist things when there's not much harm in agreeing. Being fearful of being influenced can easily lead to the exact same path that being easily influenced can, so I personally don't have as much resistance to putting Felix through such trials, since that's how growth happens.
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>>5990203
This is something to be worried about too
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>>5990204
by all accounts, We are a prince. However when/how do we act a prince? Thats the key thing.

People can dress you up, But we haven't given into being one.
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>>5990028
It's this kind of thinking that ruined Char in canon.
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>>5990224
If a peasant looks like a prince, thinks like a prince, acts like a prince, is treated like a prince, marries a princess, then that peasant has become a prince. So I agree, Felix is by all accounts a prince. All that's left is the supremacist nature to start seeping in.
I have to emphasize on the warning Tryphosa gave us, Felix will eventually give in to becoming something darker and more bloodthirsty than now. All we can do is try our best to fight it and reject opportunities that push us in a more Zabi direction.
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>>5990230
Nah, thats paranoy and at the same time. She is still a juniper plant.

If you fight directly against an Oracles vision you end up uniroically in it. We will do fine as is.

Also I can't see Felix ever letting the Supremancy in.
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>>5990232
>If you fight directly against an Oracles vision you end up uniroically in it. We will do fine as is.
She offered to help in fighting it by being with her, although didn't finish her sentence because she was ashamed of entertaining those thoughts.
>I can't see Felix ever letting the Supremancy in.
Not if he actively notices it. But it'll likely be a subconscious form of thought that slowly becomes a conscious one without him realizing it.
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>>5990235
Very unlikely, and just paranoia and doomposting until proven otherwise.

Next you'll tell me Gihren is a good guy.
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>>5990242
>gihren is a good guy
Okay, now hear me out-

Don't take this seriously. Great discussion so far anons.
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>>5990242
Maybe Tryph is wrong and we'll become a blue collar worker or a space pirate, who knows.

>>5990245
Jimba was right all along!
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>>5990254
Too many tropes have people try to avoid fate and then stumble into it BY avoiding it.

So ya, I believe she was wrong.

>>5990245
I love this Gihren Zabi guy! His giving me gas for our next door neighborhood, But man it makes me super sleepy!
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>>5990255
I'm more willing to trust Tryphosa in this regard since she's more in tune with newtype mind stuff than any of us are.
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>>5990110
>>5990120
>>5990123
>>5990145
Commence! Wins, writing.

>>5990116
>>5990124
Inflict an even greater living hell on your brother.

>>5990140
I'm not sure if this is a vote, but I guess I'll tally it.

If there are some votes I missed in this giant discussion please bring them to my attention.
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>>5990205
>One of the best ways to build willpower is to actually resist things when there's not much harm in agreeing.
Because this marriage won't cause any harm to us personally (or to our family), and Felix is a mentally strong man who has never second guessed his loyalty ever.
Also the Zabis will be completely fine with this, it's not like we're ruining the life of their favourite little girl by agreeing to a loveless marriage (or at best having our heart be divided between two(three?) women).
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>>5990298
> Also the Zabis will be completely fine with this, it's not like we're ruining the life of their favourite little girl by agreeing to a loveless marriage
Yeah the more I think about this the more I’m in the no camp there’s no telling how Kycilia or gihren will respond to this and when the war kicks off we can’t really watch over Elena
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>>5990306
There was an agreement to send Elena and the kids to Solomon if it looked like a war was likely, she's only at Zeonic until then. Dozle, Astraia, Mineva, and Glemy will likely be there as well. All of that is subject to change of course, but it's what Felix expects currently.
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>>5990312
Be weird if Dozle of all people broke his promise to us.
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>>5990312
Isn't Axis already thing too?

>>5990317
Dozle likely won't kill Elena, but Kycilia and Gihren might try it. Who knows if things have changed enough for their reach to extend to Solomon.
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>>5990323
Axis is a mining place from what I'm aware.

And also Dozle wouldn't, his a good man and his married/in love with our mother. So he'd def make sure whereever she is, Shes properly guarded. hell I could see Vivi do the same shit. until we start clipping Zabi's
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>>5990323
>>5990335
You're both saying this like Kycilia doesn't have spies and bugs around the place. Dozle would happily entrust Elena and the kids to his siblings because he trusts them that much.
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>>5990337
So do you not read earlier in the thread or..? The Schism and ground-work is being laid for Dozel to not trust them and is starting to format in his brain.

Also, Kycilia won't go against her new Brother-in law.
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>>5990338
Look I love the guy but he isn't exactly the smartest.
And while he'd maybe start to not trust Gihren, there's no indication he doesn't trust Kycilia. And he will absolutely trust Vivima, which is another factor we will have to juggle with.
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>>5990323
>>5990335
Axis is fully constructed and currently churning out mobile suits, warships, and any other war material that can be made out in the asteroid belt. It was originally being mined for resources, and there are many mining operations on other asteroid outposts it manages, but other than some continue expansions of its facilities it there isn't much mining happening on Axis itself anymore. It was one of the places that was considered for sending Elena before, the vote ended up favoring Solomon.

There are also Zeon military facilities on Mars, but I don't think you want to send Elena or the kids there.

>>5990340
>no indication
They don't get along very well, how much you want to read into that or not is up to you.
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>>5990337
That is a fair point. Kycilia will likely have spies either way even if Dozle isn't aware of it.

>>5990338
>spoiler
She would absolutely kill Elena to make sure her little sis isn't miserable or has to share a love life.
Also
>won't go against her new brother-in law
>implying she'd never kill or hurt her family

>>5990346
>They don't get along very well, how much you want to read into that or not is up to you.
Interesting way of putting it Contolist, since it doesn't necessarily indicate a lack of trust.
For example I don't get along with my brother, but I'd trust him with my life.
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>>5990346
>Mars Zeon

Can't wait to see if we ever interact with that whole mess in the future, or if we prevent the cival war (on Mars) somehow.
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“The energy fleet isn’t something to play games with,” You aren’t even sure where to begin with all of this, even considering insisting on having Casval take the bullet of marrying Vivima for a moment before thinking better of that - it’s something to consider later, perhaps, but your first instinct matches Viv’s; it’s asking for a disaster for both of them, and you still remember that feeling you got before the academy dance. There’s someone else out there waiting for Casval, someone he must meet. “We’ll need to handle them with finesse… We can discuss this all tomorrow after the dust has settled, I need time to think.”

“That’s for the best.” Viv nods in agreement, and gives an apologetic look, “I’m sorry to have dropped so much on you at once, it just started flowing-”

“I know how it is.” You hold out a hand to stop her, and Viv falls silent quickly. Getting down from the desk, Tryphosa follows suit and you are all standing once more, walking toward the testing room’s door, “...We didn’t settle on what I’m going to talk about tomorrow, did we?”

“I trust you’ll choose them well, Felix. Surprise me.” Vivima’s smile is warm, very familiar, a different light in her eyes than even just a few minutes ago - She’s looking at you differently, even without having accepted her offer. There’s something softer about her. Vulnerable. Tryphosa stands between the two of you as you walk down the hall, you and Viv each holding one of her hands. This arrangement still doesn't sit well with you, thoughts of Elena's reaction to even the offer weighing on your soul. She won't like it, but she will probably accept if only to help protect your children during the war. The war is always close in her mind, a nightmare that can only be survived and never escaped.

5:45, 11th December UC 0077
Zeon Military Academy on Guardian Banchi, Side Three (Republic of Zeon)


Wind blows through your hair as you look out from the commander’s hatch of your armored personnel carrier, the dark forests and hills of Guardian colony bobbing up and down with every slight bump the heavy wheeled vehicle takes along the road. Surveying the landscape with night vision binoculars, you have a very shaky view of the path and terrain ahead, but it still looks clear of Federation vehicles. That’s good, your one concern was catching an unexpected resupply convoy on the way in, but Blare’s intel has proven accurate so far. No Federation patrols this morning, no resupplies, just open roads and the occasional street lamp as you pass by remote charging stations. Behind you, within the troop compartment, are the cadets who have been gathered to represent the Earth Sphere and beyond.
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>>5990362

For Riah, of your three good choices, you picked:
>Izumi. She’s got a killer voice and is a national sports champion in Riah, though for a slightly obscure sport. She’s an enigma, but you get along very well.
>Rix. A solid man, though often not remarkable for more than his strength and steady mind during a fight. You trust him.
>Tiff. She’s a newtype, and unquestionably loyal to only you (and Blare). Her voice is not exactly easy listening, even if you’ve grown to really like her.

And for Loum, you chose:
>Char Aznable, of course! It’s almost like Casval is here with you, he’s a friend though a bit Gihren-y. You’ve worn some of that down over time, and you've known him for years.
>Lino Fernandez. One of Char’s friends more than your own, you don’t know him as well but he’s always been quicker to criticize Gihrenism than Char has been. You’re pretty sure he’s a Deikunist.

And from Moore, you chose Zenna Mia. She hasn’t awakened, but she’s a newtype and one of your pilots - there wasn’t much competition from the other cadets of Side 4, she was the clear pick. You’d considered leaving her to be the one to keep an eye on Dozle and distract him, but that duty fell on whoever you don’t pick from Riah. Vivima chose the cadets from the other sides, and there was only a single Earthnoid, Martian, and Jovian, so there wasn’t a choice to be made there - Tryph of course isn’t a problem, and the other two eagerly agreed. You and Vivima will jointly represent Zeon.

Up ahead, you can just barely begin to make out the hazy form of the chain link gate of the broadcast compound, a sliding gate worked into the earthwork wall and trenches that surround it. It’s difficult to see with the grainy night vision binoculars, but quickly grows clearer as the distance shrinks. The compound is fortified but barely manned, you’re not too worried about resistance, the plan is…

Third vote:
>To slam the APC through the gate and rush out, capture the guards non-lethally if possible, and try to force a surrender. There is more risk this way, but you’d rather minimize bloodshed.
>To shoot a few of the soldiers and demand the surrender of the rest, storm the compound violently but try not to kill them all - the APC is outfitted to handle casualties, so treatment of the wounded should be manageable if their wounds aren’t too horrific. It can shuttle the worst cases to Artesia’s field hospital.
>To kill all the guards, unless they surrender on their own or cease resistance after being wounded. No risks, you’re taking them as unawares as possible and securing the area by overwhelming force. The survivors will still be treated and sent to Artesia.
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>>5990365
>Izumi. She’s got a killer voice and is a national sports champion in Riah, though for a slightly obscure sport. She’s an enigma, but you get along very well.

>Char Aznable, of course! It’s almost like Casval is here with you, he’s a friend though a bit Gihren-y. You’ve worn some of that down over time, and you've known him for years.

>To slam the APC through the gate and rush out, capture the guards non-lethally if possible, and try to force a surrender. There is more risk this way, but you’d rather minimize bloodshed.
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>>5990365
-First vote
>Rix. A solid man, though often not remarkable for more than his strength and steady mind during a fight. You trust him.
Probably the least Gihren-y of the three.

-Second vote
1)
>Lino Fernandez. One of Char’s friends more than your own, you don’t know him as well but he’s always been quicker to criticize Gihrenism than Char has been. You’re pretty sure he’s a Deikunist.
2)
>Char Aznable, of course! It’s almost like Casval is here with you, he’s a friend though a bit Gihren-y. You’ve worn some of that down over time, and you've known him for years.

-Third vote
1)
>To shoot a few of the soldiers and demand the surrender of the rest, storm the compound violently but try not to kill them all - the APC is outfitted to handle casualties, so treatment of the wounded should be manageable if their wounds aren’t too horrific. It can shuttle the worst cases to Artesia’s field hospital.
2)
>To slam the APC through the gate and rush out, capture the guards non-lethally if possible, and try to force a surrender. There is more risk this way, but you’d rather minimize bloodshed.
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>>5990365
1)
>Rix
2)
>Izumi

>Lino Fernandez
Mofuggin Lino 'ride or die' Fernandez. Cas did him dirty in Origins. Not here.

>To slam the APC through the gate and rush out, capture the guards non-lethally if possible, and try to force a surrender. There is more risk this way, but you’d rather minimize bloodshed.
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>>5990365
>>5990382
+1
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>>5990387
I appreciate you going with my selection but please link back to your previous ID.
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>>5990365
>>Izumi. She’s got a killer voice and is a national sports champion in Riah, though for a slightly obscure sport. She’s an enigma, but you get along very well.
>Lino Fernandez. One of Char’s friends more than your own, you don’t know him as well but he’s always been quicker to criticize Gihrenism than Char has been. You’re pretty sure he’s a Deikunist.
>To shoot a few of the soldiers and demand the surrender of the rest, storm the compound violently but try not to kill them all - the APC is outfitted to handle casualties, so treatment of the wounded should be manageable if their wounds aren’t too horrific. It can shuttle the worst cases to Artesia’s field hospital.

wtf guys i come back and we are cheating on our wife?
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>>5990393
>cheating
Who said we're having kids with her, Do you know how political marriages work in any fashion?

or how common that shit is both IRL and older times?
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>>5990389
This >>5990340 is me. I'm on mobile, sorry!
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>>5990396
If we marry her we should have kids. It would cement her loyalty to us and distance her from Gihren and Kycilia.
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>>5990393
>wtf guys i come back and we are cheating on our wife?
Hey it ain't cheating if we aren't married.
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>>5990365
>Izumi. She’s got a killer voice and is a national sports champion in Riah, though for a slightly obscure sport. She’s an enigma, but you get along very well.
>Lino Fernandez. One of Char’s friends more than your own, you don’t know him as well but he’s always been quicker to criticize Gihrenism than Char has been. You’re pretty sure he’s a Deikunist.
inb4 he's a full on Sideist (Contolism without the Elseim) and talks about TED
>To shoot a few of the soldiers and demand the surrender of the rest, storm the compound violently but try not to kill them all - the APC is outfitted to handle casualties, so treatment of the wounded should be manageable if their wounds aren’t too horrific. It can shuttle the worst cases to Artesia’s field hospital.
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>>5990393
We haven’t decided anything definite yet and with the potential of Kycilia doing something to Elena I’m thinking we shouldn’t
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>>5990407
No worries, just wanted to make sure.
>>5990423
Kycilia might do something to Elena on her own regardless. Damned if we do damned if we don't.
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>>5990365
>Izumi. She’s got a killer voice and is a national sports champion in Riah, though for a slightly obscure sport. She’s an enigma, but you get along very well.
>Lino Fernandez. One of Char’s friends more than your own, you don’t know him as well but he’s always been quicker to criticize Gihrenism than Char has been. You’re pretty sure he’s a Deikunist
1)>To shoot a few of the soldiers and demand the surrender of the rest, storm the compound violently but try not to kill them all - the APC is outfitted to handle casualties, so treatment of the wounded should be manageable if their wounds aren’t too horrific. It can shuttle the worst cases to Artesia’s field hospital.
2)
>To slam the APC through the gate and rush out, capture the guards non-lethally if possible, and try to force a surrender. There is more risk this way, but you’d rather minimize bloodshed
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>>5990428
Kycilia seemed pretty happy for Elena and Felix when he proposed to Elena when they were all celebrating Christmas. I don't think she has a real reason for wanting Elena to die, at least not yet.
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>>5990365
>Tiff. She’s a newtype, and unquestionably loyal to only you (and Blare). Her voice is not exactly easy listening, even if you’ve grown to really like her.
>Char Aznable, of course! It’s almost like Casval is here with you, he’s a friend though a bit Gihren-y. You’ve worn some of that down over time, and you've known him for years.
>To slam the APC through the gate and rush out, capture the guards non-lethally if possible, and try to force a surrender. There is more risk this way, but you’d rather minimize bloodshed.

Tough choices. Tif has the spirit if not the verbosity, while Rix has an accent like a blender and Izumi's mentality is kinda concerning for something like this.
Lino is a bit too much of a firebrand. Good odds he'd say something over the line. Char might be a little Gihren-y but hes been around us long enough he should know to stick to our script.
The last one I'm really not sure about. Here's hoping it works out with as few casualties as possible whatever wins.
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Vote one
>>5990374
>>5990393
>>5990422
>>5990433
>>5990382 (2nd)
Izumi.

>>5990379
>>5990387
Rix.

>>5990456
Tiff.

Vote two
>>5990374
>>5990456
Char.

>>5990379 (Char)
>>5990382
>>5990387
>>5990393
>>5990422
>>5990433
Lino.

Vote three
>>5990374
>>5990382
>>5990387
>>5990433
>>5990456
Non-lethal attempt. Wins.

>>5990379 (Non-lethal)
>>5990393
>>5990422
Shoot a few

Izumi, Lino, non-lethal is the overall outcome.
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>>5990515
Should've moved >>5990379 to join the other non-lethal votes but it doesn't change anything.
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“We’re going right through the gate!” You shout down to Vivima, who insisted on driving the APC in. Tryphosa is beside her. “Dead ahead - Floor it!”

“Sieg Zeon!” Viv shouts from below in the driving compartment, and the APC’s engine roars into new life. Jolting under the force of the acceleration, you nearly lose your grip on the binoculars and let out a sieg zeon of your own before ducking down to safety - as does the entire troop compartment. A single spotlight turns on ahead of you near the gate, just as you’re about to smash through it and into the compound beyond - too late. With a metallic clanging racket, the gate is smashed open and off its sliding track, giving way easily under the weight of multiple tons of steel. Tires screech and squeal on pavement as Vivima hits the brakes, another jolt nearly slamming you into the edge of the open hatch, but you catch yourself just in time and begin shouting orders at once.

“Disembark! Go, go, go!” You shout to the troop compartment before drawing one of your revolvers and sticking your head back out of the hatch. Everyone knows what they’re tasked with, you all memorized the complex hours ago, and even as you scan over the surroundings and spot the first shocked Federation guard there are already cadets streaming from the back doors of the APC.

Snatching up the handset for the vehicle’s loudspeaker, you make your demands known in a thundering amplified voice as the men and women under your command take the compound, “Soldiers of the Earth Federation, surrender and disarm yourselves immediately! This station is being seized in the name of all the people of Earth Sphere. Surrender and disarm, and you will receive fair treatment. Our fight is not with you, but with the Federation - we are your brothers and sisters, lay down your arms! There is no need for violence, surrender and disarm immediately!”

And so it your calls of surrender continue as the cadets you’ve brought with you fan out across the electric lit base, a few tackling down Federation soldiers here and there under the lights of the prefab buildings, others holding some at rifle point near doorways as the surprised tan uniformed Feddies rush outside to see the source of the commotion. A single gunshot rings out, and then another three almost immediately, spaced so tightly as to be almost one cracking report.

“Medic!” Izumi shouts from just out of sight within the radio station itself, “Medic!”

“Shit,” You curse quietly under your breath and click the loudspeaker to replay the last half minute or so of warnings, your own voice continuing to demand the surrender of the Federation outpost as you clamber fully out of the APC and hop down onto the hard concrete below. Rushing to the radio station’s doorway, you find Zenna has already made it there with a medic bag.
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>>5990578

Lino has been shot in the neck, one bloody hand pressed tightly against the wound, and a Federation captain lies dead on the ground floor nearby in a rapidly spreading pool of gore. Dark red spread across the dead man’s torso from two holes in his uniform, right through the heart, and another has punched through his forehead and made an awful mess of the back of his head. Other Federation soldiers in the building are already down on their knees, weapons tossed away - just a couple of pistols. It looks like Lino got shot with one the captain had, and you recognize the type; years ago you used a very similar one at the villa.

“What the hell happened?” You demand an answer from Izumi as Zenna sees to Lino’s nasty looking wound.

“Perfidy, sir.” Izumi spits on the captain’s corpse, brushing back a lock of her over regulation length hair with one hand, the stray strand having fallen loose from the bun under her helmet, “He lied he was surrendering, I saw the look in his eye a moment too late. The rest have surrendered.”

“Secure the rest of the prisoners.” You shake your head, heart sinking at the scene before you - what a mess, you know something like this was likely, even with disoriented Federation defenders half awake, “Zenna, how is Lino?”

“I’m… I’m doing fine, sir!” Lino winces terribly and struggles to speak as Zenna is packing all kinds of hemostatics into his wound in preparation to wrap it, “S-sieg zeon, ha!”

“He’ll make it,” Zenna answers, “Isn’t that right, Lino? You’re going to be fine.”

“Y-yeah, got to send my message.” He replies, but he’s looking at you now, and taps at one of the pockets of his webgear, “Got it in there, in case I… Could you read it, Felix?”

>”You’re going to read it yourself, Lino. Hold on, we’ll get you patched up - Izumi, how are the others?.” It looks like Zenna has things under control, and there is blood in the APC for a transfusion - he’ll make it, it’s going to be a rough time for him.
>”...I’ll try to do it justice. You’re getting evacuated with the first load of prisoners.” The man’s been shot in the damned neck, send him to Artesia and the others for something closer to proper care - he’s done his duty.
>Write-in.

Also:
>What will Felix say when he speaks on the radio? Submit your write-ins now, there will be another vote next update.
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>>5990579
>”...I’ll try to do it justice. You’re getting evacuated with the first load of prisoners.” The man’s been shot in the damned neck, send him to Artesia and the others for something closer to proper care - he’s done his duty.

>Read Lino's message.
>"People of Zeon, here we stand before you. Today we are united at the precipice of a new era, one that was forged by the myriad injustices and great upheavals of a corrupt regime. Indeed, we stand at the edge of a new dawn for the justice of spacenoids amongst our fellow humans."
>"Let us disavow the ancient concepts and ways of life, and instead embrace something greater. For today we come here not as military men and women, but as comrades that have suffered alongside you. The actions that have come about are not done hastily or in fury, but as a last resort to the overbearing corruption and incompetence of the ancient regime, shackling us down to the ground. We ask today for the end of injustice against spacenoids, and for peace to return to the Sides."
Probably a bit wordy and doesn't hit all the Contolist notes I would've liked, but it's the best I can come up with before going to bed.
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>>5990579
>”You’re going to read it yourself, Lino. Hold on, we’ll get you patched up - Izumi, how are the others?.” It looks like Zenna has things under control, and there is blood in the APC for a transfusion - he’ll make it, it’s going to be a rough time for him.

>My fellow brother and sisters of Space. I am Felix deiki and with me are representatives youths of both space and her colonies and earth. We come not as warriors but children of the same family seeking an end to the violence that strikes at each and every one of our homes. This doubling down and cycle of violence will get us no-where but more death members of humanity. I say enough! We must rise above the violence and hate of the past and embark on a new understanding future!

I'm on phone, doped up and hopeful this can be made better by others.
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>>5990579
>”...I’ll try to do it justice. You’re getting evacuated with the first load of prisoners.” The man’s been shot in the damned neck, send him to Artesia and the others for something closer to proper care - he’s done his duty.
Fine by me, I didn't particularly want him here anyway. Hopefully he doesn't mind if we accidently leave out his more inflammatory rhetoric.

>"Brothers and Sisters of the universe, my name is Felix Zos Deikun. Many years ago my father spoke about mankind's destiny, and but for the cruel hands of fate he would be here to speak again. In his place I have a simple message to share: We must stand together! The Earth Federation, founded upon good intentions, has failed to live up to its great potential. After finally unifying ourselves as one people, we immediately divided ourselves again, as Earthnoids, Spacenoids, Jovians, and Martians. We must cast off these shackles! We were all born to take to the stars, to see the vast beauty of the universe! We must dispose of our old prejudices and grasp this future of ours together, not as Earthnoids and Spacenoids, but as the people of the universe! We must no longer allow our hearts, minds, and souls to be held down by the gravity of hatred and division!"
Something along those lines yeah?
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>>5990579
>”...I’ll try to do it justice. You’re getting evacuated with the first load of prisoners.” The man’s been shot in the damned neck, send him to Artesia and the others for something closer to proper care - he’s done his duty.
Damn it, Leno. At least he isn't dead this time around. I don't got shit for a write in.
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>>5990579
>”...I’ll try to do it justice. You’re getting evacuated with the first load of prisoners.” The man’s been shot in the damned neck, send him to Artesia and the others for something closer to proper care - he’s done his duty.
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>>5990830
>>5990755
>>5990722
>>5990590
Read it yourself. Wins, writing.

>>5990672
Keep Lino here.
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“...I’ll try to do it justice. You’re getting evacuated with the first load of prisoners.” You promise him, crouching down beside him and taking one of his hands in yours and squeezing it tight; a wounded brother in arms deserves no less, “We’re not losing anyone today, Lino, you’ll get patched up in no time.”

Wincing in pain as Zenna continues to treat his wound, Lino nods and taps at the pouch on his gear again. You open the pouch and pull the note inside out with your clean hand, if Lino or Zenna did it the blood would’ve left it unreadable. Flipping the folded paper open, you scan over the text… It’s a excerpt from one of your father’s old speeches, word for word. Well, that confirms that at least, Lino’s definitely not a Gihrenist - or he’s so mild of one that the difference hardly matters, your father and Gihren did work together for years, there’s some overlap before the Zabis really went off the rails.

“This is good.” You force a smile, though there’s nothing pleasant about the state your loyal supporter is in. Lino’s not just an acquaintance or another cadet, he took a bullet for your cause; the man deserves a medal, though you know there’s likely to only be punishments handed out after this rebellion is finished - the goal isn’t to spark a war with the Federation, and they’ll still have a great sway over things as the dust begins to settle. “This is very good. Word for word.”

“Word for word.” Lino repeats, “I… I think I’m gonna stop talking now, sir.”

“Thought I was going to have to order you to. Zenna, I’ll get a stretcher.” You then stand and head out to the APC, surveying the scene - there were more Federation soldiers here than you’d expected, but most of them have already been lined up in rows near the APC. A stack of small arms is piled up some twenty yards away, a single cadet standing watch over the weapons and another the prisoners. They won’t try anything, this wasn’t some glorious last stand, they probably just want to go home - you can feel a terrible fear behind their eyes, despite the message still repeating from the APC’s loudspeakers some of them must fear they’re about to be executed by terrorists.

Working with Vivima and Tryphosa, you’re able to get one of the field stretchers out from it, and then relieve the prison and weapon guards for long enough that they can go and retrieve Lino. He’s loaded up in the APC without too much fuss, and Zenna gets a transfusion started. Things are going smoothly now, you barely even have to give orders, and it’s easy to direct the few cadets in need of guidance as issues come up; Viv handles a lot of it, truth be told. She’s inside the radio station now with Tryphosa, working together to get the broadcast ready to send once communications are not being jammed.
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>>5990978

Looking up across the twinkling lights of Guardian colony’s dark wrapping interior, you cast your gaze toward where you know the Sybota must be keeping station. Somewhere out there beyond the hull of the colony, past the crafted landscapes and metal superstructure, a battle has commenced already. Checking your watch, you are certain it has. Anavel left for your ship hours before any of the other cadets set out, even with the long solo space walk and flight pack journey to your ship he must’ve made it there - you have no doubt about his capabilities. The fight at the spaceport has begun as well. Casval is right in the thick of things, you can feel the slight change to the tension of the air around you. You cannot see it, but you know.

Eventually Vivima leans out from the doorway of the radio station and shouts, “Felix, we’re all set over here! Gato's run the Sybota off, we just got the go ahead! Do you want to speak first?”

You begin heading over at once, signaling for another cadet to stand guard over the prisoners - the first batch are being loaded up for transport now, the driver and crew are the few spare cadets you brought with you, essentially all Vivima’s lackeys.

>”Gladly, Viv.” Of course you won’t pass on the chance to frame the whole broadcast!
>”You should speak first, I’ll go after.” More out of concern for Gihren or Kycilia’s reaction if you speak first. Vivima leading would shield you from that.
>”We should do it together, it doesn’t matter who has the first word.” Viv can say the first few words, and you’ll take the next - You’re sure you can begin the message together without issue, you’ve lived together for years now. The reaction of the other Zabis is… uncertain.
>Write-in.

I'll continue to take write-in suggestions on what to say.
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>>5990980
>”Gladly, Viv.” Of course you won’t pass on the chance to frame the whole broadcast!
Well whoever ran with the Titans quest idea have fun with it. It doesn't look like it has legs, but enjoy.
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>>5990980
>”We should do it together, it doesn’t matter who has the first word.” Viv can say the first few words, and you’ll take the next - You’re sure you can begin the message together without issue, you’ve lived together for years now. The reaction of the other Zabis is… uncertain.

Together now. From spacenoid to spacenoid. Let it be free and flow.
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>>5990980
>”Gladly, Viv.” Of course you won’t pass on the chance to frame the whole broadcast!
We shouldn't pass up this opportunity.
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>>5990980
1)
>”You should speak first, I’ll go after.” More out of concern for Gihren or Kycilia’s reaction if you speak first. Vivima leading would shield you from that.
2)
>”Gladly, Viv.” Of course you won’t pass on the chance to frame the whole broadcast!
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>>5990980
>”Gladly, Viv.” Of course you won’t pass on the chance to frame the whole broadcast!
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>>5990980
>”Gladly, Viv.” Of course you won’t pass on the chance to frame the whole broadcast!
Can't be afraid of Gihren and Kycilia forever.
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>>5990980
>”Gladly, Viv.” Of course you won’t pass on the chance to frame the whole broadcast!
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>>5990980
>”We should do it together, it doesn’t matter who has the first word.” Viv can say the first few words, and you’ll take the next - You’re sure you can begin the message together without issue, you’ve lived together for years now. The reaction of the other Zabis is… uncertain.
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>>5990980
>>”Gladly, Viv.” Of course you won’t pass on the chance to frame the whole broadcast!

Let them hear the gentle thunder of a Deikun once more.

Although incidentally Contolist if this hasn't been asked before, what does Felix sound like? Close to Casval? And if so which VA?
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>>5991201
>spoiler
Silverstein probably, he also played a Char Clone so it fits.
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>>5990984
>>5991007
>>5991008 (2nd)
>>5991011
>>5991013
>>5991049
>>5991201
Gladly! Wins, writing.

>>5991052
>>5991000
Together.

>>5991201
In English? Probably Silverstein doing a slightly different voice since this is mostly The Origin stuff, but I need to think on that more. I've always imagined Felix being softer spoken than Casval, they have very different dispositions.
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“Gladly, Viv!” You shout back to her while striding toward the radio station, every step feeling a little heavier than the last - the weight of history is bearing down on you, the importance of this moment becoming more real within your mind. Of course you’ll speak first, you must. Viv waves you inside, smiling confidently and her violet eyes alight with passion; she understands the importance of this as well, you can see it written plainly across her face.

“I already sent out the intracolony broadcast, it couldn’t wait.” Vivima says as you both head deeper into the station’s interior, passing the blood stain on the tiled floor where Izumi slew the Federation captain and heading through another door and down another sparsely decorated hall green hall.

“Good, the people here should know what’s going on at the spaceport.” You have no issues with Viv sending out what is essentially a safety warning to the public of Guardian colony - there isn’t a large population here compared to most, a great deal of the colony is given over entirely to empty terrain for biome training, but the civilians who are present need to know to stay indoors while fighting is ongoing. Entering into a room with a number of terminals and microphones, you take a seat at a chair indicated to you by Tryphosa - she has gotten everything sorted out.

“You need only press the button to broadcast, Felix.” Tryph explains, pointing with a delicate finger toward a small silver button at the base of the microphone in front of you, “And wear this headset.”

“Right.” You put it on and adjust the fit, satisfied with it a moment later - you can hear Vivima’s intracolony broadcast playing; it is terse and to the point.

”This is an emergency safety broadcast! Citizens of Guardian Colony, we - the sons and daughters of Zeon - are currently engaging Federation forces in battle in and around the spaceport. Remain calm and seek shelter immediately, remain off the streets until fighting has ceased. We fight for your safety, please do not endanger your lives unnecessarily. When fighting has ceased, a new message will be broadcast. This message will repeat.”

…Yeah, pretty neutral all things considered. There isn’t much else to say to the public here, they’ll be able to hear the new broadcast as well but it’s more important that they’re safe first.

Pressing down on the button, you begin the broadcast…

>What do you say to the entire Earth Sphere? (Write-in!)

Vivima will speak next, and then it will cycle through the other cadets in this order: Earthnoid > Lunarian > Side 1, 2, 3 (a brief acknowledgement since you and Viv spoke already), 4 (you again with the note), 5, 6. There is no one from 7. Mars is next, then Tryphosa for the Jovians, and finally Vivima will sing. The message and song will repeat.
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>>5991539
"A new message signaling that it is safe to leave shelter will be broadcast"*

Lost that bit in editing somehow.
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>>5991539
>Read Lino's message, if we haven't already.
>"Brothers and Sisters of the universe, my name is Felix Zos Deikun, and here we stand. Many years ago my father spoke about mankind's destiny, and but for the cruel hands of fate he would be here to speak again. In his place I have a simple message to share: We must stand together! We speak to you not as warriors or military men and women, but as children of the same family seeking an end to the violence that has plagued us. The Earth Federation, founded upon good intentions, has failed to live up to its great potential. After finally unifying ourselves as one people, we immediately divided ourselves again, as Earthnoids, Spacenoids, Jovians, and Martians. We must cast off these shackles! All of us were born to take to the stars, to see the vast beauty of the universe! We must dispose of our old prejudices and grasp this future of ours together, not as Earthnoids and Spacenoids, but as the people of the universe! We must no longer allow our hearts, minds, and souls to be held down by the gravity of hatred and division!"
I'm mostly using the write-in of >>5990722 while mixing a bit of the other two in it.
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>>5991539
I won't have time to vote most of today so I'll just throw in my support for whatever gets the most popular.
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>>5991555
I feel like there should be something about newtypes in here somewhere, but I don't know how it would be phrased.
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>>5991555
I agree we should probably add something more about newtypes
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>>5991555
>>5991629
>>5990722
I was the writer of this one. Lemme make an adjustment and sprinkle in a touch of newtype

>"Brothers and Sisters of the universe, my name is Felix Zos Deikun, and I come to you today from Side 3's Guardian Banchi. Many years ago my father spoke about mankind's newtype destiny, and but for the cruel hands of fate he would be here to speak to you again. In his place I have a simple message to share: We must stand together! We speak to you not as warriors or military men and women, but as children of the same family seeking an end to the violence that has plagued us. The Earth Federation, founded upon good intentions, has failed to live up to its great potential! After finally unifying ourselves as one people, we immediately divided ourselves again, as Earthnoids, Spacenoids, Jovians, and Martians. We must cast off these shackles! All of us were born to take to the stars, to see the vast beauty of the universe! We must dispose of our old prejudices and grasp this future of ours together, not as Earthnoids and Spacenoids, but as the people of the universe! We must no longer allow our hearts, minds, and souls to be held down by the gravity of hatred and division! Ending that violence between us is the only way that we will rise to truly become the newtypes my father knew that we would become, and are already becoming! Stand with us on this path, so that a day comes when mankind no longer wars against itself!
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>>5991697
>if not for the cruel hands of fate
I’m willing to support this
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Voting will be open until later tonight.

>>5991697
Looking pretty good so far with that one desu, don't forget that you need to tell the Earth Sphere why the message is being sent/reasons for what is going on. Cadets at the spaceport, field hospital, radio station, and Gato out in the Zaku all have cameras so there will be accompanying footage edited by others. Blare and some other cadets Vivima and Casval picked are handling the editing, they have stock footage of the Earth/Luna/all the Sides/Energy Fleet/Mars ready to go as well so it isn't just going to be war footage.
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>>5991819
That was something I was struggling with, since I don't know how long you want it to be. But here's another adjustment.

>"Brothers and Sisters of the universe, my name is Felix Zos Deikun, and I come to you today from Side 3's Guardian Banchi. Today is an unfortunate day, for today we, the Zeon Defense Forces Cadet Corps, are forced to raise our hands against our counterparts in the EFF. While we bear no ill will towards the fine men and women of the EFGF and EFSF, we could no longer stand by and watch them carry out the orders of the corrupt Earth Federation leadership! The wanton abuse of protestors, the casual disregard for the rights of all who live across the Side, can no longer be simply endured! The Earth Federation captain whose pigheaded desire to stamp on the neck of spacenoids by refusing to follow basic right of way was the final straw. While I mourn the loss of life aboard the <insert name of feddie cruiser that smashed into the agro-ring here>, no longer can we tolerate this aggression against us. Therefore, we have decided to act against the EFF forces currently occupying our Banchi. While I am happy to say that the station I speak to you from was taken with only minimal bloodshed, I cannot deny that there will be death in Side 3 this morning. But I do not want today to be about division. Division is why this violence rages across the Earth Sphere and beyond, and there is but one way it can be snuffed out. Many years ago my father spoke about mankind's newtype destiny, and but for the cruel hands of fate he would be here to speak to you again. In his place I have a simple message to share: We must stand together! We speak to you not as warriors or military men and women, but as children of the same family seeking an end to the violence that has plagued us. The Earth Federation, founded upon good intentions, has failed to live up to its great potential! After finally unifying ourselves as one people, we immediately divided ourselves again, as Earthnoids, Spacenoids, Jovians, and Martians. We must cast off these shackles! All of us were born to take to the stars, to see the vast beauty of the universe! We must dispose of our old prejudices and grasp this future of ours together, not as Earthnoids and Spacenoids, but as the people of the universe! We must no longer allow our hearts, minds, and souls to be held down by the gravity of hatred and division! Ending that violence between us is the only way that we will rise to truly become the newtypes my father knew that we would become, and are already becoming! Stand with us on this path, so that a day comes when mankind no longer wars against itself!

...it's getting pretty long now.
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>>5991858
Still only a couple of minutes worth of speaking at a reasonable pace. That isn't all that long, especially for the start of the broadcast. The whole thing will probably be less than twenty minutes, including Vivima's song. Should have a chance to repeat at least a few times since you'll be using the Federation's own emergency alert channels to send it, notably one of the few things that isn't being jammed all to hell (aside from Minovsky interference, but that isn't happening around all colonies).
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>>5991877
Well if anybody wants to make it longer, or wants me to make it longer, I'll do so. Otherwise, I leave that ball in your hands, Cont.
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>>5991858
We should mention the Bendigo full of tanks and heavy weapons coming to the sides, a clear sign of emanate escalation and civilian death that could not be tolerate. It was the direct spark that lead to this action.
We should have photos and such of those.
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>>5991539
>>5991858
>>5991919
Here, I tried making minor tweaks
>"Brothers and Sisters of the universe, my name is Felix Zos Deikun, and I come to you today from Side 3's Guardian Banchi. Today is an unfortunate day, for today we, the Zeon Defense Forces Cadet Corps, are forced to raise our hands against our counterparts in the EFF. While we bear no ill will towards the fine men and women of the EFGF and EFSF, we can no longer stand by and watch them carry out the orders of the corrupt Earth Federation leadership! The wanton abuse of protestors, the casual disregard for the rights of all who live across the Side, can no longer be endured! The Earth Federation captain whose pigheaded desire to stamp on the neck of spacenoids by refusing to follow basic right of way was the final straw for I have seen firsthand the lengths to which the Federation is willing to go to quash dissenters. We have seen the tanks, guntanks, and APCs the Federation were planning to bring to bear upon the citizenry of Zum, to all the Sides. While I mourn the loss of life aboard the <insert name of feddie cruiser that smashed into the agro-ring here>, no longer can we tolerate this aggression against us nor allow any further escalation of violence against our civilian neighbors, friends, and loved ones. Therefore, we have decided to take matters into our own hands and act against the EFF forces currently occupying our Banchi. While I am happy to say that the station I speak to you from was taken with only one unfortunate and unintended death, I cannot deny that there will be death in Side 3 this morning. But I do not want today to be about division. Division is why this violence rages across the Earth Sphere and beyond, and there is but one way it can be snuffed out. Many years ago my father spoke about mankind's newtype destiny, and but for the cruel hands of fate he would be here to speak to you again. In his place I have a simple message to share: We must stand together! We speak to you not as warriors or military men and women, but as children of the same family seeking an end to the violence that has plagued us. The Earth Federation, founded upon good intentions, has failed to live up to its great potential! After finally unifying ourselves as one people, we immediately divided ourselves again, as Earthnoids, Spacenoids, Jovians, and Martians. We must cast off these shackles! All of us were born to take to the stars, to see the vast beauty of the universe! We must dispose of our old prejudices and grasp this future of ours together, not as Earthnoids and Spacenoids, but as the people of the universe! We must no longer allow our hearts, minds, and souls to be held down by the gravity of hatred and division! Ending that violence between us is the only way that we will rise to truly become the newtypes my father knew that we would become, and are already becoming! Stand with us on this path, so that a day comes when mankind no longer wars against itself!
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>>5992019
This seems like a pretty good basis to work from, I might make some minor tweaks here and there.

Any objections/additions/whatever for this, anons? You have until the morning to let me know, I'll start writing then.
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>>5992019
>>5992050

I don't like the "children of the universe" bit. Imagine if there was a war between two countries and some one opened up with "AYO BRUDDAS OF THE UNIVERSE! TAKE OUR SIDE N'SHIET!" you would think some nepo baby was spending too much time on social media. They are in space but for them the conflict would be much more local than the universe or even the galaxy. Maybe a reference to earth or the sides would be better since that is what would be closer to the peoples concerns.
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>>5992211
Blame Zeon Deikun for that particular style of phrasing, anon, but it's an acknowledged way to address all of mankind within the setting though admittedly tends to lean more toward Spacenoids.
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Going to start writing now, it'll probably take awhile compared to normal since there's a bunch of stuff to cover. If you have any questions now is a good time to ask them too.
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>>5992292
How fucked are we?
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>>5992211
Yeah as Cont said I borrowed that directly from Zeon's speechs. Callbacks like that are a speechwriting must for this kind of ideological warfare.

>>5992292
What's your favorite aquatic mobile suit, and why is/isn't it the Zock?
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>>5992019
Also, I just realized that I had Felix say Deikun, and not Deikun-Zabi. Now I'm wondering if that might have been a step too far
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Pressing down on the button, you begin the broadcast. Closing your eyes and allowing the awareness to expand beyond yourself, to fill all the space about you and to be cast even out toward the space port and beyond, you begin to speak in a solemn tone.

"Brothers and Sisters of the universe, my name is Felix Zos Deikun, and today I speak to you from the Republic of Zeon’s Guardian Banchi.” You start, choosing the words with great care as you feel the tragedy of the spaceport battle unfolding; men and women are dying, buildings are burning, shells fall from the sky, “Today is a tragic day. We, the Zeon Defense Forces Cadet Corps, have been forced to raise our hands against our counterparts in the Earth Federation’s military. Yesterday while performing disaster relief work for the people of Zeon, we Cadets bore witness to the Federation’s shipment of heavy weaponry and thousands of soldiers to Zum city and other colonies in Side Three.

If all is going well, Blare and the others should not be splicing in footage taken by the mobile workers yesterday, and over Federation forces gathering at Guardian’s spaceport base, “These shipments bore only one goal: to crush and kill our people, to wreak havoc among civilians and terrify them into meek submissiveness. Women and children, whole families - we plainly saw the Federation’s intentions to sweep them all away in fire, and so this morning at dawn we have chosen to act in the people’s defense! We have seen the tanks, the guntanks, and the personnel carriers which the Federation intended to use against the citizenry of Zum, against the good people of all the Sides. There is no need for such weapons to control people if a government is just, if it cares for its people, but the Federation does not! Ask yourself, what has stirred the people of Zeon into such unrest to begin with? This very same heavy handed oppression!”

Moving on, you continue to establish the stakes of the ongoing uprising, “The colony our academy resides upon, Guardian Banchi, has been used as a hub for this onslaught against human dignity - as I speak, my comrades are putting an end this madness, fighting to defend the people of the Earth Sphere by seizing control of the Federation’s stockpile of weapons here, and capturing troops and transport ships before they are sent to oppress our people! While I mourn the loss of life on both sides, and the tragic loss of the Federation cruiser two days ago, no longer can we tolerate the pig-headed aggression which led to these circumstances to begin with, nor will we allow any further escalation of violence against our civilians, friends, and loved ones!”
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>>5992409

Raising your voice, you speak with greater passion, the words coming more easily now, naturally, “The wanton abuse of protestors, the casual disregard for the rights of all who live across the Sides and beyond, can no longer be endured! We bear no ill will towards the common soldiers of the Federation, who often joined out of a desire to protect their fellow man or a simple need to survive, but we can no longer stand by and watch them carry out the orders of the corrupt Earth Federation leadership!”

“Therefore, we have decided to take matters into our own hands and act militarily against the Federation forces currently occupying our Banchi.” You declare clearly at last, though with a profound regret, knowing that footage of the ongoing fighting is likely to be shown now, the distance scenes of battle which you can feel at the edges of your consciousness even if you do not see them clearly, “...I cannot deny that there will be death in Zeon this morning, but we act not to further existing division but to beseech all the people of the Earth Sphere to come together as one and cast off the narrowmindedness of the Federation! Division is why this violence rages across the Earth Sphere and beyond, and there is but one way it can be snuffed out: We must set aside the old ways of mankind, and embrace our true place as the people of the universe. We share a common fate, and a common responsibility to defend one another against such brutality.”
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“...Many years ago my father often spoke of mankind's newtype destiny, and but for the cruel hands of fate he would be here today to speak to you again. In his place I have a simple message to share: We must stand together!” You reiterate, filled with passion as you head toward the end of your speech, “Though we take up arms to defend others, today we speak to you not as soldiers but as children of the same family, we seek an end to the violence and strife that plague us all. The Earth Federation, founded upon good intentions at the start of this Universal Century, has failed to live up to its great potential and promises! After finally unifying ourselves as one people, we immediately divided ourselves again, as Earthnoids, Spacenoids, Jovians, and Martians. We must cast off these shackles one day if we are to ever prosper!”

Finally you reach the end of your message, lowering your voice once again, allowing the words to settle upon the minds of all who listen within Guardian Colony and far, far beyond its shell, “All of us were born to take to the stars, to see the vast beauty of the universe! We must dispose of our old prejudices and grasp this future of ours together, not as Earthnoids and Spacenoids, but as the people of the universe! We must no longer allow our hearts, minds, and souls to be held down by the gravity of hatred and division! Ending that violence between us is the only way that we will rise to truly become the newtypes my father knew that we would become, and are already becoming! Stand with us on this path, so that a day comes when mankind no longer wars against itself!”
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“That was beautiful.” Vivima assures you with a sincere smile, taking the headset from you and taking your place in the seat as you stand up. It’s her turn now. Brushing her dark purple hair back with both hands, she takes a deep breath and then reaches out to press the broadcast button. Leaning toward the microphone, she speaks in a velvet tone, lovely and soft… no one will tune away from this broadcast.

“People of the Earth Sphere, I am Vivima Zabi. I speak as one with Felix Zos Deikun today, as our families are now one, and all our fellow cadets who will speak after us.” Vivima begins amicably, turning to you for a moment with a kind smile, “Here with us we have assembled cadet representatives from Earth, Luna, nearly every Side, and even the Jupiter and Martian colonies. Though our peoples have so often seen ourselves as divided, even now we have begun to act as one - not in name only, as the Federation does, but in truth!. We are united as cadets at this academy, but we were all brought here by a common belief: That together we can create a brighter future for all mankind, within the Earth Sphere and beyond.”

As she continues speaking, you begin to realize that she is not just talking about newtypes or Contolism, but Ereism as well - a surprisingly kindred spirit, “This precious solar system of ours, the greatest gift given to us by providence, is bountiful beyond imagination! It holds limitless potential, far beyond what even mankind’s sacred cradle, Earth, once held before she was ravaged by industry and stripped of so much of her natural beauty. If we strive together as one, there is wealth and plenty among the stars. If the shackles of gravity and the old ways of thinking can be cast off then we need never again be driven by fears of overpopulation or scarcity! Look to the colonies and Luna today, even upon the surface of Mars, and see the prosperity we have forged from adversity! Though great struggles persist, every year we work together to improve the conditions in which we live, even as the Federation continues to use us as a dumping ground for its excess population and a crutch to hold up its inefficient industry - We welcome those cast aside by the Earth with open arms. New colonies are constructed every year so you might live with us as one.”
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“Though our mining of the asteroid belt and harvesting of fuel from Jupiter has accessed less than a thirtieth of the resource potential the earth still holds, we have created a common standard of living which surpasses that of those still living on our once green homeworld!” She proclaims this fact proudly, and even you can’t help but swell with pride at the truth of it as well; you have seen the squalor of so much of Earth first hand, the camps and slums, and there are only a few colonies with such poor conditions these days, “To our brothers and sisters still upon the earth, to all Earthnoids who have yet to join us among the stars, ask yourselves a simple question: How could this be the case? How could the Federation have allowed the Earth’s bounty to be squandered so terribly while so much of its beauty is forever lost? How can the unwanted cast-offs of the Federation have created such prosperity after being forced from their old home?”

“The answer is simple!” Vivima sounds almost like Gihren now, her tone more fiery with every word despite the surface of peacefulness born by the message, “Those who lead the Federation are mired in the past, weighed down by gravity! They and all who see as they do are driven only by a thoughtless greed and lust for power, they care nothing for you or the value of your life. Their arrogance and selfish desires would see mankind forever cling to the earth like parasites, so long as they remained at the top of the growing garbage heap! People of the Earth, reject this fate! The Sides have faced this same oppression and indifference, and we have begun to overcome it by coming together as a people - we have developed a new consciousness, one which looks beyond the self and to the other, an awareness of life, and time, and space as a single flowing existence. If you are skeptical of my words, or do not grasp them, look at our works and cooperation and you will understand. Seethe unity we have forged even when so many still whisper and spread lies of disharmony - the proof is plain to see.”
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“This cooperation is but the first step upon the long road to mankind’s true newtype destiny, as Zeon Deikun and my dearest brother Gihren Zabi have long spoken of. Already there are those among us who have developed new abilities of perception and empathy, far beyond those ever witnessed in mankind’s past - these are the first newtypes, the first people of a new age; every year, more and more people are found to have developed these gifts. It is mankind’s fate that all someday will.”

“You too, even born on the Earth, can partake in this common destiny of mankind. Just as our ancestors did when the Federation first forced them from their homes, your children can become Spacenoids, and newtypes after that! You can cast off the gravity of the Earth and live among the stars with us as one! I invite all the people of the Earth to come to the Sides, and Luna, and far beyond - join us in the heavens, and together we may finally move past the division and oppression which we have all suffered under for so long… And to the soldiers of the Federation’s military, wherever you hail from, and to anyone else in the Federation government who feel uncertainty or guilt in their heart, I ask you to lay down your arms and cease any support for the heinous actions of the Federation now taking place within Zeon and Riah! Do not participate in this brutality toward the helpless, do not allow the orders of your superiors to turn you into the same monsters they are!”

There is a long pause before Vivima continues, her back straightening as she prepares for something beyond even what she has said so far, “...Some may see it as merely the cry of a new nation, but the words I will soon speak are for all of mankind. They herald the coming of a new dawn for all of humanity, the time of newtypes and peace among the stars: Cast off the yoke of the Federation, people of the universe! SIEG ZEON!

Though no one but you and Tryphosa can see her, she salutes, and you find your own arm rising as well - a reflex developed at the academy, but this time…

Vote One:
>You mean it wholeheartedly. Let your father’s name be a rallying cry not just within Zeon, but across all of space.
>You only repeat her shout by reflex, still seeing it as an abuse of your father’s legacy.
>Write-in.

Vote two:
>Hear more messages from the other cadets? This won’t be ALL of them, but will include Izumi, Lino, and Zenna’s messages.
>Nah, that’s enough, move along to Tryphosa, the song, and the beginning of the aftermath of the Dawn Rebellion.
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>>5992346
I really like the Hygogg and Juaggu, the first for being sleek as hell and the second for being a big derpy over armored motherfucker that can even shrug off some beam weapons. The Zock wins points for being a giant death chicken though.
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>>5992415
>You only repeat her shout by reflex, still seeing it as an abuse of your father’s legacy.
Lest we forget.

>Hear more messages from the other cadets? This won’t be ALL of them, but will include Izumi, Lino, and Zenna’s messages.
Mostly out of curiosity. I like how Contolist writes speeches.
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>>5992415

Vote One
>There is a twinge of pain in your heart still, but at least this is a message your father would be happy to have tied to his name, bittersweet as it is

Vote two
>Hear more messages

I want some insight into Izumi's head for sure. Maybe even what the earthnoid has to say, if you actually have something for them Cont.

>>5992418
Based elephant appreciator. The goofiness is why aquatic MS are so great in the first place.
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>>5992415
>>5992428
Supporting.
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>>5992415
Supporting >>5992429. We may never forget what the Zabis took from us, but this is bigger than them, and us. This is for the future of all humanity, and all its people.
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>>5992415
>You only repeat her shout by reflex, still seeing it as an abuse of your father’s legacy.
I don't really have an opinion on if we should hear the rest of the speeches. I mean it sounds nice, but I'll leave it up to the other anons to decide.
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>>5992415
Vote One
>You only repeat her shout by reflex, still seeing it as an abuse of your father’s legacy.

Vote Two
>Hear more messages from the other cadets?
Maybe more of a summary of each, doesn't have to be word for word
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>>5992415
>You only repeat her shout by reflex, still seeing it as an abuse of your father’s legacy.
I don't think he'd like his name to be turned into a 'Sieg Heil' analogy.

1)
>Hear more messages from the other cadets? This won’t be ALL of them, but will include Izumi, Lino, and Zenna’s messages.
2)
>Nah, that’s enough, move along to Tryphosa, the song, and the beginning of the aftermath of the Dawn Rebellion.
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>>5992415
>You only repeat her shout by reflex, still seeing it as an abuse of your father’s legacy

>Hear more messages from the other cadets? This won’t be ALL of them, but will include Izumi, Lino, and Zenna’s messages
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>>5992415
>>5992429
Support.
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>>5992415
>You mean it wholeheartedly. Let your father’s name be a rallying cry not just within Zeon, but across all of space.

>Hear more messages from the other cadets? This won’t be ALL of them, but will include Izumi, Lino, and Zenna’s messages.
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>>5992415
>You mean it wholeheartedly. Let your father’s name be a rallying cry not just within Zeon, but across all of space.
Time to show the Earth Sphere what a follower of Hitler can do.
>Hear more messages from the other cadets? This won’t be ALL of them, but will include Izumi, Lino, and Zenna’s messages.
The Tryphosa song better either be you singing in a falsetto Contolist, or sunoai.
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>>5992415
1)
Support >>5992429
2)
>You mean it wholeheartedly. Let your father’s name be a rallying cry not just within Zeon, but across all of space.

>Hear more messages from the other cadets
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>>5992415
>You only repeat her shout by reflex, still seeing it as an abuse of your father’s legacy

>Hear more messages from the other cadets? This won’t be ALL of them, but will include Izumi, Lino, and Zenna’s messages
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>>5990374
This is me

>>5992486
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>>5992415
>>5992480
Swapping to:

Vote One
1)
>There is a twinge of pain in your heart still, but at least this is a message your father would be happy to have tied to his name, bittersweet as it is

2)
>You mean it wholeheartedly. Let your father’s name be a rallying cry not just within Zeon, but across all of space.

Vote Two
>Hear more messages from the other cadets
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>>5992415
>You mean it wholeheartedly. Let your father’s name be a rallying cry not just within Zeon, but across all of space.
>Hear more messages from the other cadets? This won’t be ALL of them, but will include Izumi, Lino, and Zenna’s messages.

Good speeches.
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>>5992475
Changing too
1)
>You only repeat her shout by reflex, still seeing it as an abuse of your father’s legacy
2)
>There is a twinge of pain in your heart still, but at least this is a message your father would be happy to have tied to his name, bittersweet as it is

>Hear more messages from the other cadets? This won’t be ALL of them, but will include Izumi, Lino, and Zenna’s messages
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>>5992428
>>5992437
>>5992462
>>5992467
>>5992468
>>5992608
>>5992544
Reflex.

>>5992429
>>5992440
>>5992480
>>5992543
Bittersweet.

>>5992486
>>5992530
>>5992600
Sieg Zeon!

Still unhappy about the Sieg Zeon stuff, definitely want to hear more from the other cadets. Writing. Oh god, more speech writing. Someone shoot me with a colony laser.

>>5992530
>sunoai
Hadn't messed around with it until now, interesting. Probably won't make anything for this yet though. It isn't going to be the whole song anyways, it's a hard medium to capture by text and it matter more that it happens than what it actually is.
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>>5992651
Looking forward to Mars.
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Careful with the arm cramps!
https://youtu.be/ddWNMSUbcGI?si=B1yIHrCxDIEgZ7uc
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…This time you still only repeat the shout be reflex ingrained in you at the academy, a habit you despise but which is vital to not ruffle feathers among the other cadets. A large part of you is almost okay with how Vivima has used it to end her speech, but the way the Zabis have co-opted your father’s name still does not sit well with you. There may never be a time when it can be separated from Gihrenism, but you hope to see that day.

“That was beautiful.” You mirror Vivima’s words of encouragement earlier, seeing no reason to say anything more or less - her speech was good, one you’d even be willing to give yourself if perhaps in a different tone. Quibbling over details like that won’t do at a momentous time like this though. Vivima smiles warmly as she stands up, making room for the next cadet, the Earthnoid, to sit down. He only just entered the room moments ago, an unassuming young man with black hair and brown eyes. Together with Viv you head outside for now, taking over the duties of the other cadets who are coming in to speak - the radio broadcast plays from the APC’s loudspeaker, so you hear what is being said with only the slightest of delays. The Earthnoid is already speaking by the time you’re outside.

“...Rico from Buenos Aires. To that end, my message is simple. To all those on Earth who grew up in such poor conditions as I did: look to the Sides for a better life. You will find fulfillment and purpose here, the people are kind, the colonies are prosperous. I scraped my way out of Earth’s gravity by my academics and by daring to send a letter to an academy I was sure would reject me on principal, but I found them to be more receptive to me than I had ever hoped. Come and join us, however you can - they will make room for you and your family, as they did for me.”

“What a quaint message,” Vivima crosses her arms as you stand outside the radio station, helping to keep watch for the few minutes before you both have to go back inside, “I was worried he might say something rash and call for a mutiny.”

“Truly?” You ask with a slightly raised eyebrow, surprised she’d have even allowed the cadet to talk at all if that was a real concern. Perhaps it’s the usual Zabi overconfidence.

“No.” Viv laughs, shaking her head, “Do you really think I’d let him? …You’re stressed, I can see it.”
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>>5993239

You grin, realizing she’s just poking at you, just as you’d hope a sibling - or step-aunt as your bizarre legal relationship exists - would do. She’s right that you’re stressed out. “...Perhaps I am. This is a big day for our people.”

Our people. That has a lovely ring to it, doesn’t it?” Vivima’s violet eyes catch the light just so, seeming almost to flash, and again you feel that strange timeless feeling, “You should lighten up a little, your speech is done… What’s Lino have you reading off?”

“One of my father’s speeches,” You take the not from your pocket and hand it to her, tuning out the short speech by the Lunarian cadet as you do so, only catching a few specific place names on Luna - she’s urging Lunarians to pick the side of freedom and side with their fellow Spacenoids. Of course a Lunarian views herself as a Spacenoid. “It’s just a part of it.”

Vivima reads the note aloud, making something of a small show of it, her grin widening, “We are the people of the universe. We have struggled to survive in a harsh environment, and new generations of colonists testify to our success. Now, when we gaze back at Earth, we see a sacred blue and green orb - the cradle of civilization and a sacred home that we must eternally preserve and protect… Felix, this is going to give my brother a conniption, you realize that? Especially after what I said earlier.”

“And a few words from you and he’ll go back to shouting at the Federation instead of me, I’m sure it will be fine.” You try to play off the comment, but in truth you have your doubts - Gihren might have long treated Vivima as his favorite, but ideologically your messages today do much to undermine his more aggressive rhetoric - you kept in a bit of harsher language for your own speech, but tried to channel your father’s anger rather than Gihren's. He makes few distinctions, if any, between the leadership and people of the Federation - to him, Earthnoids are nearly subhuman. In fact you’d though Vivima shared those views, she’s said nearly as much before, “...Have you changed your views on Earthnoids?”
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>>5993240

“Which views?” Vivima questions, choosing not to comment on your faith in her abilities to calm Gihren. Worry lines you are unused to seeing upon her face are furrowed deep though, an earlier image of what she might look like many, many years from now; still quite charming, actually. Regal, even.

“Gihren’s… hierarchy.” You don’t quite want to label it as a form of racialism, nor is it truly just virulent nationalism, but it is damned close to both, “I didn’t expect you to be so open minded.”

“Oh. That.” Her expression darkens further, and in this moment you’re sure she’s holding nothing back - this is Vivma in her full unpleasantness, “No, I’m not keen on Earthnoids. Why should I be? Everything I have seen points to them being a step behind us, even if some can become like our forefathers. …It is fixable though, generation by generation; there’s hope for them. Tryphosa has helped me see that more clearly, she takes a very long view of things. And I do like Elena, she’s okay.”

The cadet from Side one is now speaking, but you are focused solely on Viv’s words, and after a moment of consideration you reply, “They’re more capable than you might realize, some might even be able to become newtypes. Elena is trying.”

“...And you base this on? She’s been trying in vain, from what I have seen.” Vivima asks, your words very obviously begging the question.

“Intuition.” You shrug, “I’ve felt eyes watching me from the Earth.”

Vivima’s violet eyes widen, a look of shock taking her, and then… shame? “Oh. I… I see. Perhaps I will need to reconsider my views further. Tryphosa seemed less certain when I pressed her on it before, and Elena’s lack of progress… I had doubts. Could it not have been a spacenoid who had returned to Earth?”

“I can’t rule that out, but I don’t believe it to be so.” You shake your head, pleasantly surprised once again this morning - Vivima is surprisingly receptive to information about newtypes when it comes from newtypes. Refreshing, even if she still doubts.

“But you’re not sure?” She almost sounds desperate for you to be wrong. The Side two cadet is now speaking. “That must be what it was, Felix. Casval has returned to Earth a few times and he is still a newtype. I just can’t believe someone from Earth could… expand themselves that way. No, it doesn’t make any sense. We need to head back in.”
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>>5993242

“We do.” You nod, and together you make the short trip back inside the radio station and to the broadcasting room. Earthnoid newtypes is certainly at odds with your father’s understanding of the coming transformation of mankind, but that doesn’t mean it is impossible. Sitting back down near the microphone, each of you take a seat and lean in. Viv presses the button, and you speak together.

“...Representing Side Three, Zeon, I, Vivima Zabi…”

“And I, Felix Zos Deikun…”

“Would like to assure our people that we stand with you both in arms and in spirit, and encourage the brave men and women protesting the Federation’s occupation of our nation. Even now, our comrades fight against Federation soldiers, and reports…”

Tryphosa, listening in on another headset, gives a thumbs up - a distinctly unjovian gesture, but one she’s picked up both from you and her time at the academy.

“...And reports from the battlefield indicate success on all fronts! We will be victorious.” Vivima continues on after receiving the good news.

You take up the rest from there, “Our people stand together in this moment of hardship, fighting side by side for peace, not further violence. Keep sight of that goal… Sieg Zeon!”

“Sieg Zeon!” Vivima almost shouts, far more enthusiastic. As soon as you’re no longer transmitting, she gives you a worried look while you both get up and make room for Zenna, still stained with darkened blood, to deliver her speech.

Vivima whispers to you so as to not be picked up by the microphone, “That was the least spirited Sieg Zeon I’ve ever heard, Felix, and Garma mumbles it in his sleep sometimes.”

“Heh, yeah, I’ve heard him in the field a few times. I… I don’t know, Viv.” You reply noncommittally.

“Don’t know what?” She presses quietly.

“It’s hard to get used to using my father’s name like that, he never asked for people to do that.”

“It’s in remembrance of him, it honors him.” Viv gives the old reasons you’ve heard a hundred times before, but something in her voice tells you she already knows that they aren’t enough for you. It isn’t any kind of bond, just natural intuition - she’s always been good at reading people.

“I know the reasons for it.” You whisper back tersely. This isn’t the time or the place to be getting upset about the salute, especially after so many years keeping up your mask successfully.

“...It must be hard, I’m sorry.” She places a hand on your shoulder very gently, and oddly you find it… helps, it calms you. “Being reminded of him so often.”
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>>5993243

You nod but keep your silence, listening instead to part of Zenna’s message.

“...I apologize, but I struggle to find the words for this moment. My… my hands are stained with the blood of a friend wounded in the fighting to take the radio station I now speak from. People of Moore, do not stand apart from your fellow Spacenoids. All the people of the Sides share the same fate, to… to become newtypes… and…” Zenna is the first cadet to really be struggling to speak, Lino’s wound shaking her up more than you’d thought earlier, “And to find our… shared dream among the stars… Sieg Zeon.”

You walk over after Zenna finishes struggling through her short message, while Viv leaves with her. Sitting down, you unfold Lino’s note and then pause for a few seconds before beginning to read your father’s old speech. It is so familiar to you that you quickly find yourself not even reading from the paper, reciting it by memory alone.

“...We are the people of the universe. We have struggled to survive in a harsh environment, and new generations of colonists testify to our success. Now, when we gaze back at Earth, we see a sacred blue and green orb- the cradle of civilization and a sacred home that we must eternally preserve and protect. Our new consciousness as a people of the universe tells us that Earth was not created to be abused and polluted by a few members of an elite, privileged class. Men and women who have never been into outer space still believe Earth belongs to them and still continue rape and plunder it, but their time has passed. Earth must be preserved as the sacred homeland of all mankind. It does not belong solely to an Earthbound elite! By continuing to dream of controlling all of mankind, they forever deny mankind its true destiny…”

It goes on for some time longer, but soon you have finished and it is Izumi’s chance to speak. Again you rise, now for the last time on this broadcast, and head back outside with Vivima and Zenna. Izumi takes the microphone next, but you miss the beginning of her message as you leave the building. Vivima is standing beside Zenna as the first light of day is beginning to break, the great central reflector of the colony slowly brightening - It will still be another hour before it is truly light out.
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>>5993246

“I’m sorry, I messed it all up.” Zenna shakes her head, looking utterly ashamed at her weakness, “I thought I was fine until I… Until I started talking, I looked down at my hands, and… What if I can’t take it during a bigger battle? I don’t think I can do this.”

“No, you did well, Zenna… That was your first time seeing a real wound like that?” Vivima asks, keeping her voice low enough that most other cadets cannot hear. Zenna nods, pale faced.

“You did very well then.” Viv looks her in the eyes, “You kept it together while treating him, got the job done and made sure he was evacuated, you helped our message. People needed to hear that too.”

“My hands are still shaking.”

“It happens to a lot of people. Were they shaking when you were bandaging Lino?” Vivima questions gently; it’s rare you get to see this side of her outside of the occasional heart-to-heart or when she speaks with Glemy.

“No, I just-”

“Followed your training.” Vivima finishes for the still shaking girl, “See? You’ll be fine. And besides, we might all get court martialed after this is done anyways, so I wouldn’t sweat the details.”

“Reassuring.” Zenna lets out a snorting laugh, not ready for the sudden shift in outlook. It seems to bring her back out of her temporary sulking, restoring more of the strong willed cadet you’re used to training with, “Even a Zabi? You think you'll be punished too?”

“After what I said with Felix? The Federation is going to want our blood… we’ll see, our family is not bent to their will so easily. I’m going to make sure every other cadet is taken care of as well, especially everyone who spoke, if it is needed.” Vivima turns to face you as you finally approach, done with giving the two of them their moment alone, “Ah, speaking of my favorite cowboy! How was the speech?”

“As good as it was twenty years ago,” You shrug, turning your focus toward the APC and its loudspeaker, still playing the broadcast from within the station - Izumi’s voice comes through clear and resonant. Like with most things, she excels at public speaking. It isn’t a surprise of course, many of the cadets do if not most, you were picked from the best of the best, or at least raised with very real expectations of and preparation for leadership. Zenna departs from the two of you, moving to relieve one of the cadets closer to the gate - the Martian, who will be speaking once Izumi is done.
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>>5993248

”...Cowards who will shrink away from the coming age have no place among the stars! Face your destiny with the bravery and discipline of a warrior, even if you never take to arms or battle. To those who will take up arms now and in the years to come, I remind you of the oldest truth known to warriors: Only when a life has ended can it be truly judged, until the moment of death it is an unfinished work, for death is the moment of life’s perfection! Do not throw your lives away, but never fear the end. Whatever you have done, no matter how mighty your enemy may be or how they might strive to undo it, it will still have been done...”

“...Now there is a daughter of the Sides,” Vivima grins approvingly at the far more aggressive speech, “I’m surprised you picked her, Felix. A very impressive woman, isn’t she?”

“That’s why I picked her…” You begin to have second thoughts on the choice as Izumi’s speech continues, far more militaristic than the others, but at least she addressed civilians with something like a message of peace to begin with, “She isn’t going too far, is she?”

“No. No, this is very good. You said yourself that the generals in Riah have been timid about this situation, they need to feel a warrior’s shame at their inaction. We haven’t hidden out preparations for conflict if the Federation pushes this further, neither should they. The more resistance it looks like the Earth will face to oppose us, the more likely we can maintain peace for a while longer.”

“Ah, deterrence. Of course.” You leave the topic there, having discussed the risks of an early war to death already - the concern remains, but with how busy Vivima has been helping to rationalize Zeon’s military industry you know she is far more aware than most of how hopeless a war would be if it started today, “...How much longer will it be?”

“Nine months, at a minimum.” Vivima replies, understanding perfectly what you mean by the question, “Every day past that and our victory becomes more certain. In a year, even Riah will be mostly prepared. Beyond that it depends more on how the Federation acts than what we do, and if we can gather more allies. I have no doubts we will be victorious if the war begins on our terms.”
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>>5993252

You nod, finding her assessment close to your own, though perhaps she underestimates the Federation more than you do - Earth is not something to be easily subdued, even if all of the Sides united against her corrupt rulers. With only two, even years of preparation may not be enough. The martian now speaks, in a far heavier accent than you would have expected, almost… slavic?

”Greetings, people of Earth Sphere, greetings from colonies and barren surface of red planet! Greetings from Arcadia, home of my youth, and Phobo - I will return! You are not forgotten. My motherland is far from cradle of mankind, my message short, for Martian ears: Steady pace, comrades, and dig.”

“...Did that make sense to you?” Vivima squints, visibly confused by the end of the message. You shake your head, unfamiliar with Martian phrases or even this ‘Arcadia’, perhaps having heard the name once in passing. Mars is rarely thought of even by you, one of mankind’s earliest settlements in the solar system but largely abandoned by the Federation after construction of colonies began around the Earth. The unwanted sister of Luna.

“You should head back inside for your song.” You gesture back toward the radio station, and…

>Cycle back inside, again. Stand with her and Tryphosa as they finish up the broadcast.
>Remain outside, listening to the broadcast over the speaker is good enough - people need to keep watch over the compound, there really aren’t enough of you here. The APC will be leaving to shuttle prisoners as soon as the broadcast is finished.
>[Green Eyed Mystery Box]
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>>5993254
>Remain outside, listening to the broadcast over the speaker is good enough - people need to keep watch over the compound, there really aren’t enough of you here. The APC will be leaving to shuttle prisoners as soon as the broadcast is finished.
Felix's perception can help greatly in this situation, he's the best suited for it.
That was lots of newtype bonding there. I feel like the Mystery Box has something to do with Vivima, she's been having green eyes tons of times lately. A bond opportunity maybe?
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>>5993254
>Remain outside, listening to the broadcast over the speaker is good enough - people need to keep watch over the compound, there really aren’t enough of you here. The APC will be leaving to shuttle prisoners as soon as the broadcast is finished.
Gambling is tempting, but with stuff like the hidden weakness I don't feel confident it won't hurt us somehow.
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>>5993263
Vivima has violet eyes, if I ever mentioned her having green eyes it was an error on my part.
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>>5993254
1)
>[Green Eyed Mystery Box]
Lalah?

2)
>Remain outside, listening to the broadcast over the speaker is good enough - people need to keep watch over the compound, there really aren’t enough of you here. The APC will be leaving to shuttle prisoners as soon as the broadcast is finished.
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>>5993254
>Cycle back inside, again. Stand with her and Tryphosa as they finish up the broadcast.
I'd rather be in the room for this.
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>>5993269
After looking through the updates for a few minutes I think
>Vivima struggles to get the words out at first, but they begin to come to her more and more easily, a fire growing in her voice, her gaze cast off on some distant time and place; for a moment you could swear you see a green light reflected in them, space and time distorting, white and yellow and pink lights flashing in the dark of space,
in >>5989311 was what I was thinking of, the 'green light' part.
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>>5993254
>Remain outside, listening to the broadcast over the speaker is good enough - people need to keep watch over the compound, there really aren’t enough of you here. The APC will be leaving to shuttle prisoners as soon as the broadcast is finished.
Ambush?
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>>5993254
>Remain outside, listening to the broadcast over the speaker is good enough - people need to keep watch over the compound, there really aren’t enough of you here. The APC will be leaving to shuttle prisoners as soon as the broadcast is finished.
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>>5993254
1)
>Remain outside, listening to the broadcast over the speaker is good enough - people need to keep watch over the compound, there really aren’t enough of you here. The APC will be leaving to shuttle prisoners as soon as the broadcast is finished.
2)
>[Green Eyed Mystery Box]
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>>5993254
>Cycle back inside, again. Stand with her and Tryphosa as they finish up the broadcast.
My sense of caution tells me to stay outside, but the this song could well be the moment that awakens Vivima as a newtype. We should be there for that.
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>'Our people'

>>5993254
>Remain outside, listening to the broadcast over the speaker is good enough - people need to keep watch over the compound, there really aren’t enough of you here. The APC will be leaving to shuttle prisoners as soon as the broadcast is finished.

>>5993298
I was actually going to vote for that to be on the cautious side, making sure Vivima or anyone else isn't going to pull a fast one with Gihrenite propaganda, but this convinced me otherwise. If Viv becomes a full newtype from this it's bad for Felix since it makes the bond stronger. It's possible she'll get closer to being a newtype with the help of Felix anyway if we choose so.
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>>5993278
Oh, that? Yeah, that's definitely something. I wouldn't concern yourself with it, or all the other times Felix has seen things like that. No, nothing to worry about at all.
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>>5993254
>Remain outside, listening to the broadcast over the speaker is good enough - people need to keep watch over the compound, there really aren’t enough of you here. The APC will be leaving to shuttle prisoners as soon as the broadcast is finished.
I wanna see if the Feddies try something. Could be fun to snipe if we get the chance.
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>>5993309
You know Contolist I have weird the feeling it is something that we should worry about.
Nah, probably just me.
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>>5993304
She's going to become a newtype no matter what, and frankly she's made some astounding progress towards not being a Gihrenist scumbag. If we're with her during that moment, we could influence her even further, though I admit, considering our track record with that, it is a risk.
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>>5993254
>>[Green Eyed Mystery Box]
What's in the fucking box!?
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>>5993325
I wonder...
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>>5993254
>[Green Eyed Mystery Box]
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>>5993298
>>5993254
Decided to change my vote to
>[Green Eyed Mystery Box]
because the call of GAMBA is too strong

And if my ID is different, well, between my T-Mobile Gateway and Mullvad, it gets kinda twitchy, sorry.
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>>5993254
>>[Green Eyed Mystery Box]
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>>5993254
>[Green Eyed Mystery Box]
Oh boy, what could be inside. if it's Lalah we're gonna tell Cas ASAP.
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Voting will be open all night.
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>>5993254
>>Remain outside, listening to the broadcast over the speaker is good enough - people need to keep watch over the compound, there really aren’t enough of you here. The APC will be leaving to shuttle prisoners as soon as the broadcast is finished.
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>>5993336
That doesn't mean anything. It could literally be anyone with green eyes.
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>>5992415
>>5993734
Anon...
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>>5993602
>[Green Eyed Mystery Box]
You knew full well that there is no real vote when you included the mystery box
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>>5993741
Lots of people have green eyes. Just because one character has them doesn't mean it has anything to do with them.
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>>5993794
It might have something to do with her.
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>>5993254
1
>[Green Eyed Mystery Box]

2
>Cycle back inside, again. Stand with her and Tryphosa as they finish up the broadcast.
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>>5994002 (Inside)
>>5993754
>>5993541
>>5993508
>>5993417
>>5993353
>>5993325
>>5993271 (Outside)
Definitely mysterious and not at all hinted box.

>>5993263
>>5993268
>>5993285
>>5993286
>>5993290 (Box)
>>5993304
>>5993320
>>5993699
Outside

>>5993273
Inside

We've got a tie between THE BOX and staying outside. I'll give it another couple of hours for a tie breaker. Which will it be, anons?
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>>5994030

>[Green Eyed Mystery Box]
It's time
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>>5994030
>Outside
Shoot shoot time.

>>5990411
Is me.
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VOTE

>>5994002 (Inside)
>>5993754
>>5993541
>>5993508
>>5993417
>>5993353
>>5993325
>>5993271 (Outside)
>>5994069
THE BOX.

>>5993263
>>5993268
>>5993285
>>5993286
>>5993290 (Box)
>>5993304
>>5993320
>>5993699
>>5994077
Outside

>>5993273
Inside

And we STILL have a tie. I'll give it another two hours.

VOTE

VOTE
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>>5994159
>[Green Eyed Mystery Box]

THE BOX!
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>>5993271
>>5994069
>>5994198
>>5993290 (2nd)
THE BOX! Wins, writing.

>>5993263
>>5993268
>>5993285
>>5993286
>>5993304
>>5993320
>>5993699
>>5994077
Outside.

>>5993273
Inside
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>>5994387
CHAR BURGER
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Somewhere far away, on the cradle of humanity…

Wind brushed gently through the canopy overhead as the girl worked with unsteady fingers to pin up her dark hair. Always trouble with this part. She thought silently to herself, already done pinning one braid into a tight bun but struggling with the second in the early morning dark. Bruised fingers do not work well in a hurry, and she could already hear her owner beginning to awaken within his tent. Failing to look presentable, even out here in the jungle so far from the port, would only invite further beatings. Just moments before the vile man stirred awake, the girl had finished preparing herself.

“Girl,” The repulsive man grumbled, the first sound out of him this morning beyond the snores of a dying animal. One of his arms blindly patted against the inside of his tent, pressing against the heavy fabric. He had been sick for two days, a fever medicine has done little to help, swarthy skin slowly yellowing; he has needed help rising in the morning since it came upon him, though his strength has returned each day as the hours creep by, “Girl, here! Lalah!

“I am here.” The girl answered obediently, inside the cramped tent and at the man’s side at once, dropping to her knees so as to better help him out from the sleeping bag. Nearby, the others began to stir within their tents as well, grumbling men rising slowly and bringing the poorly planned camp to life, a few checking their weapons. None wished to be here, in this middle place between destinations, a wild place still left upon the earth even after so many millennia of unchecked human expansion.

“...I don’t smell food. Where is my breakfast?” The man growled as the girl pulled back the sheet covering him and strained to help him rise. Anger flashed in the man’s dark eyes, and a heavy hand rose and fell - but the girl was no longer there. A reflex, an intuition, a mistake. The second slap found her even as the first was avoided, sending her tumbling out of the tent and crying out in pain. Even weakened by illness, the man was far stronger. What is a young girl to do against such a man’s cruelty? Lalah collected herself quickly, half muttering apologies and hurrying toward the small camping stove nearby. Failing to light it on the first attempt, she felt a jolt of fear, half expecting another strike from one of the men - but they had already begun to argue about their business in the jungle.
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>>5994512

The first rays of light peaked through the branches high overhead as the girl slotted a new fuel canister into place and set about the business of preparing food. When working like this she became invisible to the men, these gangsters that took her from her family so long ago - they only noticed her when things needed to be done. Cooking food, predicting gambling outcomes, providing a distraction for the police or their own boredom - some tasks were far worse than others, but for cooking at least she was thankful for the respite. The less noticed, the better. The last time she had made herself visible on purpose, they had taken away the photo of her family… the last remnant of a life in Mumbai she barely remembered, now faded and crumpled. She stole it back when the men had forgotten, and always wore it close to her heart.

“This is still a bad idea, they’re Federation, aren’t they?” One man asked in a hushed tone.

“Spooks, I heard. Really planning to trade the girl to them, boss?” Another asked.

The sick man coughed loudly, painfully, before correcting them both, anger still filling his word; his spirit overflowed with hatred for everything but money, “Gaagk! Shut it! They’re businessmen, like us. Respectable types. I don’t want to hear any of those words around them, understand? It’s a trade a long… Haaghhk! …A long time coming. Damned bugs, need more of those pills.”

“Yeah, yeah, of course, boss. Whatever you say… Get em’ here for ya. Just don’t want to end up in one of their jails… graves with an extra step, barely got out last time.”

Somewhere nearby, one of the others has powered on a small radio. He had been listening to it for the last day or so, off and on. Lalah listened closely to the radio as she kept watch over the food, partitioning some rice out into bowls for the men and clearing the way for strips of meat to be worked on. She always hoped to hear news from home, but what chances were there of news from her old slum? India was very far away now, and few in Brazil cared to even think of such a distant place. No, the message was not from her old home…

…But instead one that waited for her. She froze while cooking, the chill of understanding sweeping across her, pure awareness - for a moment, she was aware.

”...All who walk the path toward the newtype ideal, wherever you reside, I reach out to you now as a sister - one who has seen our dreams, and time itself…” Another girl’s voice crackled over the small radio, eliciting confused looks from the men listening to it. With a shrug the owner of the radio twisted the dial and cut the message short, switching to a sports broadcast.

But in the mind of Lalah Sune, the other girl’s message continued for a moment longer.

”...Reach back to me, and I will find you. You are not alone, and you never have been. Join with us here, children of the universe…”
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>>5994513

In that moment, Lalah wished for nothing more than to float away from her troubles, to rise up from the floor of the jungle just as a bird would - to rise past the canopy and into the open blue sky, free of gravity, guided by pure intuition and the care of and for a flock. There was someone up there waiting for her, another who would understand her… perhaps more than one. It was an unshakeable feeling, from the very center of her being, a connection which existed before she was born and long after her death - eternal. A feeling beyond time itself.

The hissing sound of over sizzling food drew her attention back to the physical, some of the tinned meat she was cooking had begun to char from red to black. The men would not be pleased.

“Girl, breakfast!” The sick man shouted, “Why are you always so damned slow?”

>Observe this girl’s life for a while longer, a little later in the day. Who is Lalah being taken to?
>Return to Felix, the rebellion is coming to an end now.
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>>5994515
>Observe this girl’s life for a while longer, a little later in the day. Who is Lalah being taken to?
Gotta see it for Cas.
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>>5994515
>Observe this girl’s life for a while longer, a little later in the day. Who is Lalah being taken to?
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>>5994515
>Observe this girl’s life for a while longer, a little later in the day. Who is Lalah being taken to?
That is some insanely strong newtype feeling. Makes me wonder how Felix and the rest of the newtypes are doing up in the colonies.
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>>5994515
>Observe this girl’s life for a while longer, a little later in the day. Who is Lalah being taken to?
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>>5994515
>Observe this girl’s life for a while longer, a little later in the day. Who is Lalah being taken to?
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>>5994515
>Observe this girl’s life for a while longer, a little later in the day. Who is Lalah being taken to?
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>>5994515
>Return to Felix, the rebellion is coming to an end now.
Interesting, but I'd rather just get one with things.
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>>5994515
>>Observe this girl’s life for a while longer, a little later in the day. Who is Lalah being taken to?
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>>5994520
More Lalah. Wins, writing.

>>5994570
Back to your regularly scheduled Felix. Time is still passing while this is going on.
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>>5994581
>spoiler
Oh man, I would've voted otherwise if I had known we wouldn't snap back to Felix at the time the song started.
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>>5994581
>>5994594
Yeah didn’t know we would be flashing forward
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>>5994600
>>5994594
What did... you think was gonna have? It literally said

"for a while longer, a little later in the day? "
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>>5994653
Yes time would pass while we anons see Lalah's life, but here was no real indication other than an arguably relative implication we'd be stuck in the pov switch with a time skip for Felix.
Unless Felix is seeing all of this too or feeling a connection to Lalah, in which case it would be arguably worth it to do this. But I don't see much indication this is anything other than the readers looking through Lalah's perspective.
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>>5994680
Tryphosa felt something when Lalah heard her, so Felix felt it as well through their bond.
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>>5994697
Thank you for clarifying it, Contolist!
Since there was some sort of powerful newtype-ism I'm assuming I was right that the mystery box was mostly to help the bond between Viviman and Felix more since Vivima was singing and it was powerful enough to pass on to earth itself and Tryph was in the room with her. Maybe I'm being too self-assured and it could be something entirely different, but I'm fairly certain this was a secret way to push for the bond more.
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Later that day.

A deep rumble shook across the jungle, from the lowest vine to the highest treetop, floor to canopy. All the sounds of the Amazon stirred to life in those shaking moments of panic, birds taking to the sky, legged things scurrying across the ground, and even more sent scattering through the tall trees. Among the panicking creatures, Lalah’s captors were sent sprawling. Shouting curses, the armed and sweat soaked men fell all about her, unfamiliar with the terrain and losing their footing even as she remained standing. While no one among the men foresaw this, Lalah did - she felt it moments before, and braced upon a tree, wrapping it tight with both arms. One man cried out in pain as his ankle caught and twisted upon a root in the still dark forest floor, and thunder cracked through the air as another tripped and fired his short carbine off wildly into the treetops.

Lalah ducked at the sound of the gunfire, but she was unharmed, and as the earth’s rage settled the shaking in the air continued. A terrific roar came from the sky itself and shook everything once more - waves of searing hot wind rushed violently past, nearly throwing her to the ground despite her tight grip upon the tree with both arms… but soon even that bone rattling noise began to fade. Higher and higher, further and further, the roar disappeared. Peering up through the still moving canopy, Lalah’s green eyes spied the trail of a rocket disappearing off into the heavens so far above. A blue ship.

“What in the hell was that? Was that a rocket?” The sick man roared while struggling back to his feet, helped up by one of his nervous and sweat soaked lackeys, the eyes of both men wide with sudden fear, “Where did it come from? Where - Girl! Where was that from?”

Lalah shifted her gaze slowly from the man and then toward the origin of the noise, pointing with a bruised and dainty hand, a single finger guiding the way. She answered the demand in a timid voice, still fearing the man’s wrath, “From there, sir.”

“Everyone, get the hell up! Back on your damned feet, we’re almost there!” The man adjusted the fit of his jacket with both hands, though it did nothing to make his sweat and dirt soiled clothes look more presentable - days of half prepared hiking had nearly put him in his grave already, only greed now pushing him along this poorly thought out path. The other men fared only slightly better, lucky enough to have not fallen ill but lacking the yellowing man’s intense drive for money at any cost, “Move it, you bastards, there’s money waiting!”
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>>5994796

“Boss, that was a rocket, I don’t think this is a small base-” A man tried to protest, but he was cut off immediately, punched in the jaw by another man on the sick one’s behalf.

“Shut it!”

“Come on, Lalah, lead!” The sick man barked out the familiar order. It was often the case that Lalah was made to lead in unfamiliar territory, her intuitions abused, her unexplained senses used with no more reverence or regard than a dog’s ability to sniff out a trail. Nevertheless she took to the duty, pressing on as commanded. Soon the subtle sounds of the jungle returned, quieted only by the noisy passing of the city born gangsters who never should have attempted such a journey. No more rockets launched, only the slightest shake rustling through the jungle… and a very distant and very dull clang.

The earth is swallowing everything here, Lalah thought as she ducked under a tangled vine, slowing for a reason she could not fully understand. Something had changed, the jungle there was not the same. Testing the feeling, she tapped a foot against the dirt of the forest floor, but nothing was odd about its sound. A twig snapped to her left, and she spun about wide eyed and ducked low, her ruined yellow dress spinning with her, both arms held out to balance. In the dark of the jungle floor, electric green eyes stared back at her, a backlit malevolent glow. Behind Lalah, the gangsters heard nothing, saw nothing, and only grew angrier. The light of day did not pierce the canopy here, casting everything nearly as dark as night itself.

“Lalah, what are you stopping for?! Move, girl!” The sick man commanded, only stopped from striking her by his hacking cough suddenly setting upon him again, “Gaghk! Move it, stupid girl!”

“Eyes!” Lalah kept low despite her fear, more terrified by eyes in the dark than the rising hand of her captor. Only then did the sick man slow enough to take in his surroundings, his stop was abrupt when he finally saw what Lalah did, a shaking hand sent to the pistol holstered at his waist.
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>>5994797

“Halt!” A voice in the dark jungle called out, a man in a red collared tan uniform stepping out into view, a strange set of goggles pushed up on his head. Near him, another emerged, and another, each holding a rifle, “Halt and identify yourselves immediately, you’re trespassing on a Federation military facility!”

“What in the- Uh, ghagk! Gaghk!” The sick man doubled over in pain, unable to speak as his strange illness struck once more.

Lalah spoke instead, her voice timid, “I am here to be sold.”

“Secure the girl.” The first Federation soldier spoke quietly to the man on his right, signaling him forward with a pointed finger before shouting at the group of gangsters who were still struggling to come to terms with being surrounded, “Weapons down! Weapons down, now!

“Do as, gaghk! Do as he says!” The sick man wheezed out from the ground, slowly struggling back to a standing posture as Lalah was pulled away. The other gangsters, now surrounded by Federation soldiers seeming to appear from the dark itself, lowered their rusted black market weapons, “...You’re the leader? Where is the money I was promised?”

“We have it right here.” The soldier spoke once more, taking a briefcase from his comrade behind him and tossing it to the sick leader of the gangsters, “Everything you deserve, and more.”

“Let’s see it then, time for the money-” The sick man laughed and hacked and coughed, greedily unclasping the briefcase to inspect the bundles of cash within. As Lalah was led away deeper into the jungle by one of the soldiers. She looked back over her shoulder, catching a final glimpse of her former owner just as the vile man realized the case was as empty as his own heart. Sharp coughs split the dark from all around, suppressed flashes of light and sound - Lalah never saw any of her captors again.
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>>5994798

A minute later.

Just ahead down the half-concealed jungle path the soldiers led Lalah down, a small cadre of Federation officers were gathered about - the two men were older and both smoked, their faces worn by experience and lit by the dim light of their cigarettes. Off to their side stood a much younger woman, her tan uniform tight and neat, red hair pinned up in a bun.

The red haired woman spoke to Lalah, bent over slightly to speak at eye level with the scared girl as one of the soldiers forced her forward, “I am Lieutenant Ajan - you don’t need to worry anymore, we’re here to take care of you.”

“You’re a kind woman.” Lalah muttered, glancing back at the soldier who had pushed her. The same could not be said of her.

“I hope you’re right,” Lieutenant Ajan smiled, holding her gloved hands together, “What’s your name?”

“Lalah Sune.”

“Lalah… May I call you Lalah?” The lieutenant asked, continuing only after she had received a nod from the scared girl, “We’re going to take you to our base now, to your new home. There’s no reason to be afraid, you’re not our prisoner, or anyones - you’re a guest of the General.”

Lalah had no choice but to agree, and accepted the woman’s gloved hand as it was offered to her, following her down the half seen path for a minute more. On the woman’s uniform, Lalah could just barely read her name: Ajan, Matilda. “...This is a strange place, I can feel the earth swallowing everything here. …May I call you Matilda?”

“You may, and you’re very perceptive.” Matilda nodded, and she spoke in a low voice to not be heard by the other officers - they had sterner looks about them, nothing soft or understanding, the harshness built by hard lives and longer careers, “Can you keep a secret, Lalah? Our base is underground. That’s where we’re heading to now, just ahead. You must have heard the rocket earlier, didn’t you? It nearly deafened us.”

“It scared the animals.” Lalah said, as the rumbling from before slowly returned, the same shaking vibrations passed through the whole of the earth. But no birds rose to the air this time, no animals cried out; the jungle around her was wrong.

“...It did. It doesn’t really belong here.” Matilda agreed with Lalah, helping the girl step over a branch which crossed the path ahead.

“I don’t think you do either.” Lalah observed astutely, seeing far beyond what she had any right to know, “What brought you to meet me here?”

“...Special orders from General Revil.” Lieutenant Matilda answered after a moment’s pause, the words weighed carefully before she spoke them, “...I’m not sure I understand why I’m here either beyond that, if I’m being truthful, but it’s not a soldier’s place to question these things.
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>>5994799

Ahead of them both, the entrance to Jaburo rumbled open, the jungle itself parting as the great hidden doors of the underground base parted. The earth swallows everything here.

”Welcome.” A voice called out from nowhere. Lalah knew the voice, she had heard it earlier - the voice on the radio, the other girl.

No… Not her.

>Lalah’s descent into the partially constructed Jaburo base. What secret lay in wait?
>Return to Felix, the rebellion is just now at an end.
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>>5994800
>Lalah’s descent into the partially constructed Jaburo base. What secret lay in wait?

why the FUCK is she in Jaburo?
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>>5994800
>>Return to Felix, the rebellion is just now at an end.
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>>5994800
>Return to Felix, the rebellion is just now at an end.
Alright, got what we wanted. We can assume she'll be voluntold to join up as a test pilot for the RX program. Schizo theory; the voice is Alex who sounds like Tryph because the Jupiter fleet is playing both sides and helping with AI bullshit.
>>5994804
Not many earthnoid newtypes to go around. And the federation as a whole has really slim pickings after we accidentally scalped a good chunk of their potential spacenoid newtypes with Riah.
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>>5994800
>Return to Felix, the rebellion is just now at an end.
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>>5994800
>Return to Felix, the rebellion is just now at an end.
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>>5994804
Contolist mentioned they'd need someone else for Alex...
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>>5994800
>>Return to Felix, the rebellion is just now at an end.
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>>5994800
>Lalah’s descent into the partially constructed Jaburo base. What secret lay in wait?
>>5994804
Because General Revil is not aware of newtype link shenanigans
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>>5994800
>Lalah’s descent into the partially constructed Jaburo base. What secret lay in wait?
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>>5994804
>>5995048
>>5995107
Lalah's descent into the underworld.

>>5994806
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>>5994808
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>>5994856
Back to Felix and the consequences of his actions. Wins, writing. The rebellion was 'successful', time for the fun part.
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17:25, 11th December UC 0077
Zeon Military Academy on Guardian Banchi, Side Three (Republic of Zeon)


The tall wooden double doors to Dozle’s office open wide for a moment, the two Zeon defense force soldiers standing to either side pulling them open to allow your brother to leave. You could hear Dozle’s shouting from within the room, but the look on your brother’s steely expression says everything you need to know; he stood by what he did. Garma follows quickly behind Casval, deep worry lines crossing the Zabi’s normally soft face - whatever verbal thrashing they just took for leading the main assault against the Federation forces, Garma wasn’t half as ready for it as your brother.

Your brother flashes a small smirk as he walks past, and you can’t help but return one of your own; he’s such an arrogant bastard sometimes, it’s one of Casval’s worst and best traits. Rising from your seat with Vivima at your side, you enter through the office’s open doors - they shut behind you both at once, sealing you in the half ruined room with the great ogre of a Zabi. Your step-father, but also your commanding officer and superintendent of the academy… who you ordered Rix and Tiff to keep locked in his office earlier.

Dozle sits in his chair, a steak pressed up against his bruised face; of course he won’t use ice. A deep scowl is etched into his scarred features; he is not happy.

“Why?” The question comes from Dozle quietly, a low rumble. You have heard him angry before, but never like this.

“We said why in our message.” Vivima replies without hesitation, “You did listen to it when it was broadcast, didn’t you, brother?”

“I was busy fighting off my own cadets.” Dozle shakes his head, the hand clutching the thick steak against the side of his bruised face clenching almost into a fist, tearing into the meat, “...I heard it later… Why?

“We couldn’t just stand by and watch, sir.” You begin to explain, knowing he must see things as you do deep down, however betrayed he might feel in the moment, “They were going to flatten half of Zum with those tanks, I heard their operation has stopped already-”
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>>5995352

“Those Zakus… they were not for this. Do you have any idea what you have done by attacking a Federation ship? Killing their soldiers and officers? You nearly started a war, and you should have known better - that broadcast was gasoline on a fire that was already too hot. Father had to act.” Something in Dozle’s face sinks further and he looks down at the glossy surface of his mahogany desk, “This is my fault, I should have seen this coming after all the discipline violations… I should have known better. Take off those insignia.”

“...What?” You ask almost as one with Vivima, shocked by the demand. Casval and Garma still had their uniforms intact when you just saw them.

“Take them off, both of you. It was Father’s decision.” Dozle repeats quietly, “Someone has to take the fall for this, the Federation is demanding blood but we won’t give them family. You are no longer cadets, you have no position in the defense force.”

“This is ridiculous, we can’t bow to any of their pressure, Gihren-” Vivima begins to protest, something in her voice sounding almost like Garma for a moment, a hint of spoiled petulance you aren’t used to ever hearing from her - she is not used to losing power, and does not take it gracefully.

Gihren is busy preventing a war. He asked to see you as soon as we were done here, Vivima, Kycilia asked the same.” Dozle cuts off his younger sister, swiping the air with his free hand in a demand for silence. She obeys, but anger lingers in her violet eyes. Reluctantly, you both strip the rank insignia from the collars of your uniform, tearing firmly to break the threads holding them in place. Looking down at you hand, you stare for a long moment at the removed patches. You knew this could happen before you set out to begin the rebellion, but part of you expected Casval and Garma to face this punishment as the leaders of the assault… not yourself. But perhaps the Federation fears a message more than weapons, the blow you struck against them was much more dangerous.

“...What is going to happen to those who followed our orders?”

“I’m willing to overlook the two who attacked me, they’ll have extra duties until the end of their time at the academy. They fought well, we need fighters.” Dozle smiles for just a moment, and you realize he’s missing a tooth, “...Cadet Fuchs is being discharged, as are the others who spoke personally. Your… mutual friend, the Jovian, will not be permitted to return here.”

“They’re under my protection.” Vivima speaks immediately, and you second her words at once.

“And mine as well.”
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>>5995353

Dozle grunts, expecting the response, the conversation slowly returning to something close to normal - though you can still feel the sting of betrayal behind everything he says, there is a genuine disappointment there, even if another part of him might be proud that you stuck it to the Federation, “Mm. That’s the honorable thing to do. What will you do with them?”

It is very likely that ALL of them will be called back into service if a war starts.
Izumi
>She’ll be another bodyguard for you and Elena. This will help maintain Izumi’s loyalty, she’ll dabble in different areas as needed and can be reassigned later if something comes up.
>Off to Riah as a ‘civilian’ mobile suit instructor, full time. Izumi’s damned good, this will help further your future pilot training program.
>...Zeonic could use another test pilot. Few oldtypes can handle high performance prototypes, but Izumi can definitely do it. This will help develop Project-K, they badly need quality pilots.

Zenna
>Off to the Flanagan institute! She’s a decent enough pilot but has better newtype potential, she might be able to help with the research or even Tryphosa’s sisters.
>Off to Riah as a ‘civilian’ mobile suit instructor. The cadets from Riah who you were routinely inviting for mobile suit training at Guardian academy might benefit from a familiar face being nearby still.
>...Your mother might appreciate a personal attendant, and you know Zenna has a good heart. They’ll get along well, in the right light she could even pass for a second sister you never had. After how she acted seeing Lino’s wound, maybe this is best for her personally.

Tryphosa Will continue to do some of all of this, and institute research.
>She will focus more of her time on Vivima. It’s working, don’t stop.
>She will focus more of her time on her sisters, she suspects one might even be on Earth now…
>She will focus more of her time on Elena, you still have hope there might be some undiscovered newtype spark within her.

Since Lino didn't speak he will be able to finish out his time at the academy.
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>>5995356
A second full blooded sister*. Mineva IS a second sister.
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>>5995356
Izumi
1)
>She’ll be another bodyguard for you and Elena. This will help maintain Izumi’s loyalty, she’ll dabble in different areas as needed and can be reassigned later if something comes up.
2)
>Off to Riah as a ‘civilian’ mobile suit instructor, full time. Izumi’s damned good, this will help further your future pilot training program.

Zenna
1)
>Off to Riah as a ‘civilian’ mobile suit instructor. The cadets from Riah who you were routinely inviting for mobile suit training at Guardian academy might benefit from a familiar face being nearby still.
2)
>...Your mother might appreciate a personal attendant, and you know Zenna has a good heart. They’ll get along well, in the right light she could even pass for a second sister you never had. After how she acted seeing Lino’s wound, maybe this is best for her personally.

Tryphosa
1)
>She will focus more of her time on her sisters, she suspects one might even be on Earth now…
Extremely important.
2)
>She will focus more of her time on Elena, you still have hope there might be some undiscovered newtype spark within her.
I still have hope.

>>5995361
Contolist, what actions did Felix take after we pov switched?
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>>5995356
>Izumi
>She’ll be another bodyguard for you and Elena. This will help maintain Izumi’s loyalty, she’ll dabble in different areas as needed and can be reassigned later if something comes up.
Most Gihren out of all of our buds.

>Zenna
1)
Off to Riah as a ‘civilian’ mobile suit instructor. The cadets from Riah who you were routinely inviting for mobile suit training at Guardian academy might benefit from a familiar face being nearby still.
2)
>Off to the Flanagan institute! She’s a decent enough pilot but has better newtype potential, she might be able to help with the research or even Tryphosa’s sisters.

>Tryph
1)
>She will focus more of her time on her sisters, she suspects one might even be on Earth now…
2)
>She will focus more of her time on Elena, you still have hope there might be some undiscovered newtype spark within her.
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>>5995370
>Zenna
1)
>Off to Riah as a ‘civilian’ mobile suit instructor. The cadets from Riah who you were routinely inviting for mobile suit training at Guardian academy might benefit from a familiar face being nearby still.
2)
>Off to the Flanagan institute! She’s a decent enough pilot but has better newtype potential, she might be able to help with the research or even Tryphosa’s sisters.
Zena should've been greentexted, sorry.
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>>5995356
>She’ll be another bodyguard for you and Elena. This will help maintain Izumi’s loyalty, she’ll dabble in different areas as needed and can be reassigned later if something comes up.
Izumi is an extremely capable oldtype, we should keep her on our payroll. Especially after we effectively got her canned.

>Off to Riah as a ‘civilian’ mobile suit instructor. The cadets from Riah who you were routinely inviting for mobile suit training at Guardian academy might benefit from a familiar face being nearby still.

1)
>She will focus more of her time on her sisters, she suspects one might even be on Earth now…
Called it. One of the sisters got gibbed and turned into an AI. Plus this is a good way get her away from Vivima
2)
>She will focus more of her time on Elena, you still have hope there might be some undiscovered newtype spark within her.
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>>5995365
He stayed outside and listened to the rest of the broadcast and Vivima's song, and then helped to defend the compound against a possible Federation counter attack that never came. Eventually everyone got arrested by Zeon military police, but it was mostly a formality since you actually outnumbered them and all the Federation MPs were (actually) tied up by Casval and Garma's assault force. The broadcast lasted for several hours, but the Federation was probably able to cut it off in most places after the first few times it repeated - it 100% still got out though.

Felix knows Tryphosa felt something from someone on Earth, and even vaguely that it was from South America-ish. Doesn't narrow it down much.
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>>5995375
Huh. interesting. I'm half curious to know if Felix was affected by the song too, but I guess we'll find out in due time.
Again thank you so much Contolist.
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>>5995356
>...Zeonic could use another test pilot. Few oldtypes can handle high performance prototypes, but Izumi can definitely do it. This will help develop Project-K, they badly need quality pilots.

>...Your mother might appreciate a personal attendant, and you know Zenna has a good heart. They’ll get along well, in the right light she could even pass for a second sister you never had. After how she acted seeing Lino’s wound, maybe this is best for her personally.

>She will focus more of her time on Vivima. It’s working, don’t stop.
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>>5995356
Izumi
>She’ll be another bodyguard for you and Elena. This will help maintain Izumi’s loyalty, she’ll dabble in different areas as needed and can be reassigned later if something comes up.
Zenna
1)
>Off to Riah as a ‘civilian’ mobile suit instructor. The cadets from Riah who you were routinely inviting for mobile suit training at Guardian academy might benefit from a familiar face being nearby still.
2)
>...Your mother might appreciate a personal attendant, and you know Zenna has a good heart. They’ll get along well, in the right light she could even pass for a second sister you never had. After how she acted seeing Lino’s wound, maybe this is best for her personally.
Tryphosa
1)
>She will focus more of her time on her sisters, she suspects one might even be on Earth now…
2)
>She will focus more of her time on Elena, you still have hope there might be some undiscovered newtype spark within her.
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This means we’ve effectively lost our newtype squad we were building or at least the ability to actively grow it
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>>5995464
Unlikely, Once the war heats/starts properly. We're still the Step-son to Dozle and could get them back.

Plus without us being ''offical'' military now, We can still do other shit to grow/further it or more now.
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>>5995356
>...Zeonic could use another test pilot. Few oldtypes can handle high performance prototypes, but Izumi can definitely do it. This will help develop Project-K, they badly need quality pilots.
She'll enjoy being a test pilot a lot I think.

>...Your mother might appreciate a personal attendant, and you know Zenna has a good heart. They’ll get along well, in the right light she could even pass for a second sister you never had. After how she acted seeing Lino’s wound, maybe this is best for her personally.
Zenna just isn't cut out for war. And mother and Mineva could use the extra protection of a newtype.

>She will focus more of her time on Elena, you still have hope there might be some undiscovered newtype spark within her.
What can I say? I want to see if we can force the newtype into somebody. If nothing else, it's an excellent experiment into the feasibility of turning non-to-low level newtypes into proper ones without resorting to creating Cyber Newtypes.
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>>5995356
Izumi
1)
>Off to Riah as a ‘civilian’ mobile suit instructor, full time. Izumi’s damned good, this will help further your future pilot training program.
2)
>She’ll be another bodyguard for you and Elena. This will help maintain Izumi’s loyalty, she’ll dabble in different areas as needed and can be reassigned later if something comes up.
Zenna
>Off to Riah as a ‘civilian’ mobile suit instructor. The cadets from Riah who you were routinely inviting for mobile suit training at Guardian academy might benefit from a familiar face being nearby still.
Tryphosa
>She will focus more of her time on her sisters, she suspects one might even be on Earth now…
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Not going to tally all the failed options because multi-votes like this with tiered choices is a fucking nightmare to list out. Pretty sure these are the winners, if I counted it out wrong let me know.

>>5995365
>>5995370
>>5995373
>>5995393
Izumi as a bodyguard.

>>5995365
>>5995371
>>5995373
>>5995393
>>5995548
Zenna goes to Riah as an instructor.

>>5995365
>>5995370
>>5995373
>>5995393
>>5995548
Tryph focuses more on her sisters.

Writing.
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After you and Vivima have both made your intentions for your fellow former cadets known, the scarred Zabi nods. A mix of approval and simple acknowledgement, you can tell he is going to be upset about this for quite some time but agrees with looking after the others you dragged into the mess - leaders should take responsibility for where they lead others.

Dozle’s voice rumbles out louder now, raising to his normal speaking voice now, the almost cartoonishly large steak set aside on a plate on his desk, “And now that leaves the matter of what you will do with yourselves. Communications were restored earlier, and most of the Federation’s fleet pulled back out of Zeon, nearly a full retreat - they’re forming an armada in orbit of Luna.”

“For a real invasion?” You ask, already imagining the storm of messages going back and forth between the diplomats trying to prevent this crisis from spiraling further. If Gihren and Degwin are both acting, then it really is serious - but you have your doubts that Revil will be the man to give that particular order. You only met him briefly, but you felt something within him, a spark of understanding. He’s not a warmonger, or rash and hasty to act.

“It leaves the door open for it.” Dozle shakes his head, “Kycilia said it was only a bargaining chip, she is keeping a close eye on it.”

Viv grins at that, arms crossed and a bit of her older sister showing in her eyes for a moment, that sinister knowing glare Kycilia displays so often, “Then it is a bluff, and we can ignore it. What does that have to do with our futures?”

“Father received a request from General Revil,” Dozle’s words come to you as a shock, “He asked to meet with both of you. We refused, of course. He insisted, and promised safe travel and immunity from prosecution for your part in the… rebellion.”

“Where, and why?” You ask perhaps the two most important questions - the de facto supreme commander of the Federation military, and the unquestioned commander of its largest fleet, doesn’t just ask for meetings with rebels on a whim. Certainly not while organizing his forces for a possible war.

“Luna II. He did not disclose why.” Dozle rumbles.
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>>5995677

“That’s the other side of the Earth Sphere.” Vivima remarks skeptically, nearly scoffing as the location is revealed, “And a Federation stronghold, it’s a few days burn or more - we’d be trapped.”

“Maybe it’s part of the peace process, I… I felt something in him the one time we met in person, Viv.” You choose to go ahead and disclose that feeling that has stayed with you for so many months now - the old man left quite the impression on you for such a brief encounter, “He might want to talk about our message. I trust his word.”

“...Are you sure?”

“Not entirely,” You shake your head.

>”...But I’m going to take the risk, it’s worth it. …And it’s close to Side Seven, I think I could use a vacation after this. Kycilia can mask our travel.” Sometimes having that witch on your side comes in handy, you have no doubts she’ll try her best if Vivima is with you. Viv’s got some meetings with her older siblings to deal with first, but that likely won’t include you.
>”...I don’t think he’d try something, the offer is probably real, but someone else might. We shouldn’t go, tensions are too high.” Refuse the offer, all it takes is one junior Federation officer with a handgun and strange ideas to ruin everything.
>Write-in.
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>>5995680
>”...But I’m going to take the risk, it’s worth it. …And it’s close to Side Seven, I think I could use a vacation after this. Kycilia can mask our travel.” Sometimes having that witch on your side comes in handy, you have no doubts she’ll try her best if Vivima is with you. Viv’s got some meetings with her older siblings to deal with first, but that likely won’t include you.
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>>5995680
>”...But I’m going to take the risk, it’s worth it. …And it’s close to Side Seven, I think I could use a vacation after this. Kycilia can mask our travel.” Sometimes having that witch on your side comes in handy, you have no doubts she’ll try her best if Vivima is with you. Viv’s got some meetings with her older siblings to deal with first, but that likely won’t include you.
I say we go for it. Might as well see what he wants.
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>>5995680
>”...But I’m going to take the risk, it’s worth it. …And it’s close to Side Seven, I think I could use a vacation after this. Kycilia can mask our travel.” Sometimes having that witch on your side comes in handy, you have no doubts she’ll try her best if Vivima is with you. Viv’s got some meetings with her older siblings to deal with first, but that likely won’t include you.
Can we bring some other people to meet him along us? Maybe Casval or someone else that's good with this sort of thing?
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>>5995680
>”...But I’m going to take the risk, it’s worth it. …And it’s close to Side Seven, I think I could use a vacation after this. Kycilia can mask our travel.” Sometimes having that witch on your side comes in handy, you have no doubts she’ll try her best if Vivima is with you. Viv’s got some meetings with her older siblings to deal with first, but that likely won’t include you.
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>>5995683
Casval, Garma, and Artesia cannot go. Anyone else you want to bring, within reason, can probably be accommodated - a very small retinue is probably for the best though. You can also have people meet you at Side Seven separately for a sneaky cheeky vacation episode, right under the Federation's nose.
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>>5995680
>”...But I’m going to take the risk, it’s worth it. …And it’s close to Side Seven, I think I could use a vacation after this. Kycilia can mask our travel.” Sometimes having that witch on your side comes in handy, you have no doubts she’ll try her best if Vivima is with you. Viv’s got some meetings with her older siblings to deal with first, but that likely won’t include you.
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>>5995356
Izumi
>...Zeonic could use another test pilot. Few oldtypes can handle high performance prototypes, but Izumi can definitely do it. This will help develop Project-K, they badly need quality pilots.

Zenna
>Off to Riah as a ‘civilian’ mobile suit instructor. The cadets from Riah who you were routinely inviting for mobile suit training at Guardian academy might benefit from a familiar face being nearby still.

Tryphosa
>She will focus more of her time on her sisters, she suspects one might even be on Earth now…

Working unofficially for Zeon may have its benefits as well.
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>>5995692
Would Elena be able to go too? She was at Side 7 for a while, but I'm not sure if her current status allows her to go at all or if it would be wise to take her.
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>>5995841
Yes, she would be able to without much issue. Whether it is wise if up to players to decide she could probably use a nice break from working on hideously complicated engineering projects.
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>>5995853
You say that but shes probably having the time of her life on the cutting edge.
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>>5995680
>>”...But I’m going to take the risk, it’s worth it. …And it’s close to Side Seven, I think I could use a vacation after this. Kycilia can mask our travel.” Sometimes having that witch on your side comes in handy, you have no doubts she’ll try her best if Vivima is with you. Viv’s got some meetings with her older siblings to deal with first, but that likely won’t include you.
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>>5995681
Wins, writing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alm6FTcltXo
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”...But I’m going to take the risk, it’s worth it.” You finish after taking a moment to make your decision, your blue eyes carefully watching Vivima as her brow unfurrows, a kind of acceptance coming over her as the choice is made, “…And it’s close to Side Seven, I think I could use a vacation after this. Kycilia can mask our travel.”

“I… Should be able to convince her to help.” Vivima’s objection dies before it even really begins, “If you’re going, Felix, then I am too. I don’t trust them, but I trust you.”

“The request was for both of you.” Dozle’s replies is his deep voice, scratching at the less bruised side of his scarred chin, “You’re sure? It will worry Father, Vivima, your mother, Felix… so soon after… this morning.”

…He’s not going to be happy about this rebellion for a long time, you can tell already, but he’s trying to contain the shouting he was letting loose on Casval and Garma earlier. You heard enough of it to know they got a proper chewing out, even the heavy doors couldn’t muffle it fully; this sense of betrayal might be worse though. Hopefully it’s something you can move past in the future…

Later, now free of your academy responsibilities for the first time in two years…

>You accompany Vivima to meet with Gihren and Kycilia on a ship elsewhere in Side Three, closer to Zum and Zeonic's production colonies. It’s probably best if you stand together in regard to what you said in your speeches, and you might be able to learn something useful about the current political situation. You'll be able to easily drop by and see Elena and your mother before leaving.
>You’re with Casval and Garma, all hail the victorious heroes! They’re supposed to be confined to their dorm rooms, but with the Federation instructors having fled the academy there is lowkey celebration occurring across the academy grounds. Anything too overt is shut down, a veneer of discipline is still being maintained, but as the hours stretch by it is growing clearer that war isn’t coming and this was a great victory for Zeon. Izumi and the rest of your friends are having drinks together for what might be the last time for many, many months.

It'll be brief whichever option is chosen, a couple of posts maybe and then onto Luna II.
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>>5996123
>You’re with Casval and Garma, all hail the victorious heroes! They’re supposed to be confined to their dorm rooms, but with the Federation instructors having fled the academy there is lowkey celebration occurring across the academy grounds. Anything too overt is shut down, a veneer of discipline is still being maintained, but as the hours stretch by it is growing clearer that war isn’t coming and this was a great victory for Zeon. Izumi and the rest of your friends are having drinks together for what might be the last time for many, many months.
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>>5996123
>You’re with Casval and Garma, all hail the victorious heroes! They’re supposed to be confined to their dorm rooms, but with the Federation instructors having fled the academy there is lowkey celebration occurring across the academy grounds. Anything too overt is shut down, a veneer of discipline is still being maintained, but as the hours stretch by it is growing clearer that war isn’t coming and this was a great victory for Zeon. Izumi and the rest of your friends are having drinks together for what might be the last time for many, many months.
Ah so Dozle is going to be angry at us, or at least not trust us in the future. Oh well, this was expected.
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>>5996123
>You’re with Casval and Garma, all hail the victorious heroes! They’re supposed to be confined to their dorm rooms, but with the Federation instructors having fled the academy there is lowkey celebration occurring across the academy grounds. Anything too overt is shut down, a veneer of discipline is still being maintained, but as the hours stretch by it is growing clearer that war isn’t coming and this was a great victory for Zeon. Izumi and the rest of your friends are having drinks together for what might be the last time for many, many months.
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>>5996123
>You accompany Vivima to meet with Gihren and Kycilia on a ship elsewhere in Side Three, closer to Zum and Zeonic's production colonies. It’s probably best if you stand together in regard to what you said in your speeches, and you might be able to learn something useful about the current political situation. You'll be able to easily drop by and see Elena and your mother before leaving.
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>>5996123
A question, Contolist. Is Vivima going to be with us in the festivities or is she going to talk to her siblings while we're in the academy?
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>>5996123
Will Felix be doing both of these things or is this a choice about what we want to see?
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>>5996135
It's one or the other.

>>5996132
She's leaving immediately. There's a brief chance to say your farewells to people if you accompany her, you aren't just vanishing right after the rebellion is over.
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>>5996123
>You accompany Vivima to meet with Gihren and Kycilia on a ship elsewhere in Side Three, closer to Zum and Zeonic's production colonies. It’s probably best if you stand together in regard to what you said in your speeches, and you might be able to learn something useful about the current political situation. You'll be able to easily drop by and see Elena and your mother before leaving.
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>>5996123
>You accompany Vivima to meet with Gihren and Kycilia on a ship elsewhere in Side Three, closer to Zum and Zeonic's production colonies. It’s probably best if you stand together in regard to what you said in your speeches, and you might be able to learn something useful about the current political situation. You'll be able to easily drop by and see Elena and your mother before leaving.
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>>5996123
>You accompany Vivima to meet with Gihren and Kycilia on a ship elsewhere in Side Three, closer to Zum and Zeonic's production colonies. It’s probably best if you stand together in regard to what you said in your speeches, and you might be able to learn something useful about the current political situation. You'll be able to easily drop by and see Elena and your mother before leaving.
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>>5996123
>You accompany Vivima to meet with Gihren and Kycilia on a ship elsewhere in Side Three, closer to Zum and Zeonic's production colonies. It’s probably best if you stand together in regard to what you said in your speeches, and you might be able to learn something useful about the current political situation. You'll be able to easily drop by and see Elena and your mother before leaving.
As nice as festivities might be, and as awful as it is being in the same room as Gihren and Kycilia, I'd rather get a read on them. Also, we need to be around Vivima more to keep her from backsliding into Gihrenism. She's on the right path.
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It'll be a shame not to be able to celebrate and also not be able to hang around Casval, but now more than ever is the time to stand ten toes down on business.
Both familywise and "family" wise.
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>>5996123
>You’re with Casval and Garma, all hail the victorious heroes! They’re supposed to be confined to their dorm rooms, but with the Federation instructors having fled the academy there is lowkey celebration occurring across the academy grounds. Anything too overt is shut down, a veneer of discipline is still being maintained, but as the hours stretch by it is growing clearer that war isn’t coming and this was a great victory for Zeon. Izumi and the rest of your friends are having drinks together for what might be the last time for many, many months.
In order to cement the standing of the Deikuns with the cadets.
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>>5996123
>You’re with Casval and Garma, all hail the victorious heroes! They’re supposed to be confined to their dorm rooms, but with the Federation instructors having fled the academy there is lowkey celebration occurring across the academy grounds. Anything too overt is shut down, a veneer of discipline is still being maintained, but as the hours stretch by it is growing clearer that war isn’t coming and this was a great victory for Zeon. Izumi and the rest of your friends are having drinks together for what might be the last time for many, many months.
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>>5996123
>You’re with Casval and Garma, all hail the victorious heroes! They’re supposed to be confined to their dorm rooms, but with the Federation instructors having fled the academy there is lowkey celebration occurring across the academy grounds. Anything too overt is shut down, a veneer of discipline is still being maintained, but as the hours stretch by it is growing clearer that war isn’t coming and this was a great victory for Zeon. Izumi and the rest of your friends are having drinks together for what might be the last time for many, many months.
I'd rather make new connections.
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>>5996123
>You’re with Casval and Garma, all hail the victorious heroes! They’re supposed to be confined to their dorm rooms, but with the Federation instructors having fled the academy there is lowkey celebration occurring across the academy grounds. Anything too overt is shut down, a veneer of discipline is still being maintained, but as the hours stretch by it is growing clearer that war isn’t coming and this was a great victory for Zeon. Izumi and the rest of your friends are having drinks together for what might be the last time for many, many months.
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>>5996123
>You accompany Vivima to meet with Gihren and Kycilia on a ship elsewhere in Side Three, closer to Zum and Zeonic's production colonies. It’s probably best if you stand together in regard to what you said in your speeches, and you might be able to learn something useful about the current political situation. You'll be able to easily drop by and see Elena and your mother before leaving.
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>>5996219
We've been in the academy for years now, what kind of new connections are you expecting now, when we're about to leave?
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>>5996123
>You accompany Vivima to meet with Gihren and Kycilia on a ship elsewhere in Side Three, closer to Zum and Zeonic's production colonies. It’s probably best if you stand together in regard to what you said in your speeches, and you might be able to learn something useful about the current political situation. You'll be able to easily drop by and see Elena and your mother before leaving.
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>>5996244
I mean someone might approach us. This whole rebellion is sort of a big deal.
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>>5996123
>You’re with Casval and Garma, all hail the victorious heroes! They’re supposed to be confined to their dorm rooms, but with the Federation instructors having fled the academy there is lowkey celebration occurring across the academy grounds. Anything too overt is shut down, a veneer of discipline is still being maintained, but as the hours stretch by it is growing clearer that war isn’t coming and this was a great victory for Zeon. Izumi and the rest of your friends are having drinks together for what might be the last time for many, many months
I just wanna have fun
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>>5996257
Such as who? We know everyone at the academy, staff or student, and we just collaborated with the entire student body to pull this operation off. Out of all those people, who would approach us that would be a new connection? Especially when we're just going to be hanging out with our friends and drinking until we leave, according to the vote.
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It'd be nice for Izumi to have some closure with Rix. I think it was implied there was something going on between them?
Anyway I'll justify my vote by saying we haven't had much time to relax, and things are likely going to get more stressful when dealing with Revil, so this is a good chance to recharge.
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>>5996123
>>You’re with Casval and Garma, all hail the victorious heroes! They’re supposed to be confined to their dorm rooms, but with the Federation instructors having fled the academy there is lowkey celebration occurring across the academy grounds. Anything too overt is shut down, a veneer of discipline is still being maintained, but as the hours stretch by it is growing clearer that war isn’t coming and this was a great victory for Zeon. Izumi and the rest of your friends are having drinks together for what might be the last time for many, many months.
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It's too dangerous to be leaving Vivima alone with Gihren and Kycilia like that. We need to be a united front against the two of them.
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>people blowing a chance to influence the political situation
>yet will complain later we didn't capitalize on this perfect time involving Gihren and Kaycila

Lmaoing
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>>5996123
>You accompany Vivima to meet with Gihren and Kycilia on a ship elsewhere in Side Three, closer to Zum and Zeonic's production colonies. It’s probably best if you stand together in regard to what you said in your speeches, and you might be able to learn something useful about the current political situation. You'll be able to easily drop by and see Elena and your mother before leaving.
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>>5996287
I just want to mostly talk with Casval about Lalah. We likely won't get a chance to talk with about her for a while. I want to see if he felt anything, because Felix did.
I also want to see how many people were affected by the newtype song.

>>5996287
People that have been too afraid to approach us before the radio speech? Honestly it's more of a secondary thing to me, the real thing here is the chance to talk to Cas about Lalah as soon as possible.
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>>5996358
>People that have been too afraid to approach us before the radio speech? Honestly it's more of a secondary thing to me, the real thing here is the chance to talk to Cas about Lalah as soon as possible.
Meant this as a reply to >>5996269
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>>5996358
>>5996363
I don't think speaking to Casval about Lalah is the most time sensitive thing in this situation, whereas going to talk to Gihren and Kycilia and not leaving Vivima alone with them is something that can only really be done right now.
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>>5996367
I disagree. We have to get Casval to think more about newtypes and newtype connections as soon as possible.
Not only could he give us an edge in the war, but it'll just help him out more in general.

But pragmatic cloak and dagger aside, this is mostly a good time to celebrate and relax with friends for what might be the last time in a while.
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>>5996369
Also Contolist confirmed that we're leaving immediately to talk since Vivima is as well, and I don't know if we'd get the chance to talk to Cas for at least a little while.
And this might be a bit of a long shot but it might be possible some of our friends could help in locating Lalah. At least we can talk about newtype stuff with them, get that ball rolling while we have fun.
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>>5996369
Unless we stopped at some point, Felix, Casval, and Artesia are all still practicing their newtype abilities together, so I'd say that constitutes him thinking more about newtypes.

>But pragmatic cloak and dagger aside
That's not ever something the Deikuns can put aside, they live and die by how well they can wield them. Leaving Vivima to go alone and probably undo a good amount of the work Tryph put in over the past few months isn't the best idea when both of us are about to go talk to Revil together. Being seen as united is far more powerful to the overall situation as far as I can tell.
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>>5996377
>Unless we stopped at some point, Felix, Casval, and Artesia are all still practicing their newtype abilities together, so I'd say that constitutes him thinking more about newtypes.
Casval hasn't been thinking about Lalah much though, that's one of the main issues here. And unless I'm missing something he's shared I don't think he's really been as serious about newtype stuff (at least not as much as Artesia or Vivima).

Also that sort of mentality is just going to wear Felix out too quickly. He isn't Casval in terms of ruthlessness or drive, Felix likes to have sincere moments.
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>>5996128
>>5996123
Changing my vote to
>You accompany Vivima to meet with Gihren and Kycilia on a ship elsewhere in Side Three
Other anons have made a point. If there's any time to deal with the fallout of the situation and have any influence at all it's right now.
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>>5996387
I mean it's a good way to get cozy with Kycilia and present the idea of marrying Vivima (maybe even have Deikun-Zabi children with Viv? It could help us politically, though we'd likely have to ditch Elena).
They might be more receptive to that if Vivima brings it up herself with us along her.
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>>5996374
Close but just a light correction, I said Felix will have a chance to say brief farewells before leaving in >>5996156 If what you want to do is ask if Casval felt something too then that doesn't require staying for hours for a party, it can be slipped in easily.

>>5996377
>Newtype 'practice'
It never stopped, but it has become harder to schedule and its value for developing newtype abilities is still debatable - there definitely isn't a clear relationship between time spent 'practicing' and gaining newtype powers, it isn't like building muscle or learning a traditional skill. Felix gets to practice with Artesia more often, but compared to the original timeline Artesia and Casval are both more developed as newtypes (and far less traumatized, especially in the case of Artesia who never got the triple whammy of her mom dying, brother 'dying', and childhood pet dying all in the space of a couple of days). Casval's newtype potential is still limited, but compared to his almost totally unawakened state for a lot of the canon OYW he is way ahead.
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>>5996390
Bringing it up to Gihren would be the worst idea. Viv specifically wants herself and Felix to get married to stimy his influence because she doesn't think he's capable of actually leading Zeon. Kycilia might be into it though.
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>>5996392
>spoiler
Can we talk to him at length and schedule more newtype stuff with Casval and our friends while we're there before we leave with Vivma? It would be good to help him find more people to practice newtype things with since we won't be around.

>>5996394
Hey, I'm just stating an option many anons might want to take. I heard some people promote the idea of having political children with Vivima, and pragmatically speaking it's not a bad idea (same reasons many noble houses in the medieval times had political marriages and children).
I can't even promise I wouldn't be tempted to make that choice if we go with Vivima now. I'm sure we can spin it in a way Gihren would love (I'm leaving that earthnoid slut for superior spacenoid woman! We will make Zeon the light of humanity under spacenoid guidance!)
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>>5996390
>It could help us politically, though we'd likely have to ditch Elena
This is just not something Felix would ever do in character plus is bringing up the marriage idea a good idea given gihren,Dozle,Kycilia are varying levels of angry at us let the situation calm down
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As Cont says, Casval is already leagues ahead in terms of newtype ability compared to how he starts in MSG. Focusing on Vivima and keeping her out of Gihren and Kycilia's orbit as much as humanly possible is key. Getting her on our side means we've got the majority of the Zabi's (who aren't Degwin, and thus, irrelevant) on our side. That will be crucial in the power struggle to come.
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>>5996398
We can push this as a way to express our love or whatever lie we have to make in order to make them think about it more. Then they can see us not as rebels building a dangerous fifth column, but as young lovers wanting to fight for Zeon and the unity between the Zabi's and Deikuns (and sprinkle in a bit of spacenoid supremacy to get Gihren appeased and we're golden).

>>5996400
Then you agree that marrying and having children with Vvima is the best course forward? Because if we're going down the route to separate her from Gihren that's the best way to do it.
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>>5996402
I agree that a political marriage is probably to our advantage. Children depends on what Elena and the other characters think of the idea. We have to secure our political power, even if it comes at the cost of Felix, Elena, and the others happiness, but going too far could have serious consequences.
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>>5996406
>Children depends on what Elena and the other characters think of the idea.
Does it really matter what they think? It would be essentially hold the same political reasons as marrying Vivi, except a step further. Besides not having children with our wife when she is able to get pregnant sets a very bad image for us and will likely gain Kycilia's ire.
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>>5996396
It really depends on what you mean by 'at length', anon. In regards to practicing with other newtypes, he has Artesia and Tiff along with all the other potential newtypes at the academy that Felix has spent the last year scouting out and training to be mobile suit pilots.

Lots of good discussion going on, anons.
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>>5996415
I mean make some schedules for as to help them practice in their newtype skills in general. Think empathic, understanding other's feelings, helping them in their strengths, and even awakening them in other newtype areas when possible. I know we won't be there to finish the job since we're not coming back to the academy probably, is he going to continue growing their newtype power? Does he realize how important doing it can be for us?
Can Casval even do that out of body traveling yet? Can any of our friends do so?
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>>5996313
Celebration.

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>>5996350
Zabis. Wins, writing. If I missed a vote somewhere let me know.
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Oh well, Deikun-Zabi children here we come.

>>5996422
I'll take that as a no, then...
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>>5996452
>Deikun-Zabi children
Already happened, anon, that's Mineva. It already likely there will be more. Yes, I know you meant Viv and Felix. No, that isn't likely unless there are major changes in circumstances.
I'll answer the questions in >>5996422 in brief since you've been asking a lot and I don't want to just leave you hanging forever. Hopefully this clears things up some.

>Schedules
Already what they do.
>Specific examples for training.
As above, doesn't help in anything like a direct fashion, that just doesn't seem to be how it works, but it keeps people thinking about newtype stuff at least which is itself beginning to seem more important.
>Casval picking up where Felix left things
They already continued practicing whenever Felix was away in Riah or visiting Elena and his kids, there doesn't need to be any real changes to that to continue what Felix started. Why would they stop now that they know newtype understanding is something they can grasp at? Felix can still visit sometimes, he's not banished, he just won't be there all the time going to classes and exercises.
>Does Casval realize its importance
He's the first born son of Zeon Deikun, he fully understands the importance of cultivating newtypes and newtype understanding.
>Casval doing out of body stuff
Yes, but it isn't something he can do on demand. It doesn't really work on demand for Felix or Artesia either, expanding their perception/senses is just a way to describe an increasing awareness of surrounding space and others. They're definitely 'better' at it, but they're also more emotionally aware and connect better with people anyways, and Felix is a perception monster except with Vivima sometimes the Mink incident.
>other friends doing it
None yet. The precise phenomena that accompany increased awareness/understanding don't seem to be uniform across newtypes and even the experiences of Felix and Artesia doing 'the same thing' varies. Tiff's style of newtype awareness if very different, for instance, but she and Felix can still understand one another far better than either could an oldtype.
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>>5996474
It's already likely*
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>>5996474
Thank you for replying Contolist, this has mostly answered all of my questions.
>spoiler
Why not? This is something nobles did back then for political purposes and the same would apply here. Besides Mineva isn't related to Zeon Deikun, only to Felix's mom Astraia. Zeon's blood does not yet run in any Zabi, unless we count Artesia and Garma's eventual children (if Garma survives long enough at least).
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>>5996480
>why not
He loves Elena, simple as. The politics do make sense, but that's not really the issue though, is it?
Zeon's blood or not, Mineva is already a symbol of unity between the families even while she's still an infant.
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>>5996495
>He loves Elena, simple as. The politics do make sense, but that's not really the issue though, is it?
If it's for the greater good, then sacrifices need to be made.
It's just simple pragmatism.
>Zeon's blood or not, Mineva is already a symbol of unity between the families even while she's still an infant.
Even so she's more a symbol that favors the Zabi side of the family more than the Deikun one.
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>>5996501
>It's just simple pragmatism
Felix has never been a complete pragmatist there’s always been a limit to how far he’s willing to go
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>>5996509
Well we can gradually push that limit.
Marrying Vivima is a good start. We should seriously consider having children wit Viv if we go down that route, it's the best way to control Vivima.
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>>5996512
>Well we can gradually push that limit.
Is that something...we WANT to do?
>Marrying Vivima is a good start.
Knowing Felix I feel that's a bridge too far, but we'll see how things go.
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>>5996529
Hey, if marrying Viv is the first step to securing a pragmatic victory then sure.
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You guys are all psychos.
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>>5996622
cope, Cry and seeth about it i guess?
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>>5996532
It's sounding to me that this isn't so much pragmatism as it is you wanting to make purple newtype babies with Vivima, bud.
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Though you’ve had to pack your things in a rush, changing from your former uniform into civilian clothes, you still manage to find a few minutes to stop by and say your farewells to your closest friends. You find them out in the grounds, drinking and laughing near the tall statue of your father, the one by which you’ve spoken to your brother so many times. Tiff and Rix are both beat all to hell and drinking it off, Izumi is… downtrodden, but accepts your offer to join on as a bodyguard for now, and out of everyone Blare’s the only person to actually be drinking in anything close to moderation - a rematch between Izumi and Rix has already started, but there’s no time for that though to be seen all the way through, it will have to happen another time… And that makes you far sadder than you expected to be. It’s an abrupt end, but that’s just life sometimes. Casval is here as well, Garma nowhere to be seen for now - probably off visiting your sister at the hospital, work there is far from over. One more conversation under your father’s watchful gaze then…

“I heard you were leaving,” You brother says without turning to look at you, sensing your approach in that way he sometimes does. Sometimes it’s easy to forget he’s a newtype as well, it shows less often. It’s still an invitation to join him. “But I didn’t believe it. You’ve been kicked out?”

“With Dozle’s extra large boot, yeah. He’s mad.” You scratch at the back of your head, realizing that for the first time in years you can let your hair get past regulation length again - maybe you will, there are lots of possibilities now for all kinds of things, “But he’ll get over it.”

“He does like you.” Your brother grins, looking out at the water of the pond nearby, “I don’t think the war’s going to start over the mess we made of that base.”

“No.” You agree, “Not from that… We’d be getting missile alerts by now.”

Casval grimaces. You both know what the start of a real war would look like, every cadet knows - a massive strategic nuclear exchange, major fleet actions, the destruction of billions of lives, entire Sides even. Not today though. Not today.

“I heard your message.” Your brother speaks again, shifting the subject to something less dark. You hadn’t intended to drift into such a grim topic, but it happens sometimes. A habit gained from Elena, and one she even hates in herself - one from her mother. Ideas can be so contagious. “And the other two… And father’s words.”
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>>5996660

The other two? Vivima and Tryphosa then. So much for all the other cadets speaking, but that tracks for how you brother thinks of things. He does tend to discard whatever isn’t important, it’s not a good quality when it comes to people. It limits him in some ways, but frees him to act in others - you’ve known for a long time he’ll likely be the first to move against the Zabis, with only just enough warning for you to join in without making a mess of things. He cherishes his real family at least.

“I hadn’t expected Viv to come around how she did.” The words escape you in nearly a whisper, the transformation was astounding - the words could have been your own at times, “Do you think it’s a trick?”

“...It’s hard to say.” Casval still looks off across the water, searching for something, someone. A swan flies by in the distance, just over the treetops, a very rare sight. “Maybe it’s just the foolishness of youth, she might think she can do more than she can. It isn’t a complete lie.”

“She doesn’t have many other friends. I’m not sure there’s any lies to it at all…” You nod, suspecting there is at least some truth to his words, “She asked me to marry her.”

You brother turns very slowly to look you in the eyes, “She what?

“It would be a political arrangement. Don’t act like we haven’t talked about it before, Cas.” It’s hard to hold his gaze, he has to know that you didn’t shoot down the offer immediately. That you’re considering it. “I’m not going to make a decision until I speak with Elena.”

“I’m glad you still value your health at least,” You brother laughs smoothly, probably imagining the catastrophic slaps Elena might deliver in the future - she’s learned from Artesia, they’re dangerous when they get together, “Don’t hurt her.”

“I never will. I just wanted to make sure you knew…” You trail off, trying to think of where to start so much has happened, so much is going on, and you don’t have much time to discuss it even with Casval, “There’s more though, we were both invited to Luna II. An invitation from General Revil. I suspect it’s because of what we said in our message.”

“That’s what I’d heard as well, and a stop to see Gihren and Kycilia as well.”

“I’m willing to trade places for that part.” It’s your turn to grimace now even as you make the joke. You tug at the collar of your shirt a little bit, not at all looking forward to the meetings with the two most despicable Zabis - especially since at least one is likely to be a very dangerous kind of upset. “Thought it’d be good to get out to Luna II as quickly as possible, I want to stop to see Elena and the kids before leaving.”
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>>5996663

“You should. You’ll make our father proud, Gihren and Kycilia aren’t so hard to handle.” Casval’s words mean more than he might realize, and you find your worried look melting away into a smile. The words of father, through him - he’s still your older brother, even if it’s not a big gap. Part of you thrives on his approval. “I’d take care with this Federation general though, he might be out for blood after what we’ve done. We've upset a lot of Federation leaders, but that's to be expected isn't it?”

“I’m not worried about who it upset,” You both look out across the water now, the reflection of the wrapping landscape of the rest of the colony reflected in the pond, splashes of greens and grays, forests and buildings, ripples crossing steadily over them all a few ducks land in the water. “But I… I felt something when Tryphosa spoke. Someone.

“Someone?” Your brother asks, a spark of awareness catching between you - a moment of understanding, “...Who?”

“I’m not sure, but I got the sense they weren’t looking for me. Tryphosa got a firmer feeling of it, she claimed they were somewhere in South America. There were others too, millions scattered across the sides, a sea of them… but none were as clear as she was.” You try not to get too poetic about it, but words truly fail to capture the feeling of the moment - Tryphosa’s message may not have awakened Vivima or any of your cadets, but you’re sure they felt it as well, and that some across the Earth Sphere and perhaps even beyond woke for the first time to her words, “I’ve felt her before. Green eyes, watching me. Looking for you.

“...When we spoke here before,” There’s no need for him to be more specific, you know precisely when he means - it was quite the night for you, “We talked about political marriages, and… this same girl. You had a feeling then too. …I did feel something earlier, but I lost it in the battle, we were still fighting.”

“She’s important, whoever she is.” You don’t have much more to say - Casval understands, you can feel a shift in him already at the news, a subtle change, “...And Tryph thinks one of her other sisters might be on Earth as well, not Mona or Quina.”

“Not good news.”

“...No.” You shake your head, and find your brother putting his arm around you, pulling you into a farewell hug.

“Take care of yourself, we’ll talk more when you’re back from Luna II.” Casval says, giving you a firm pat on the back before letting you go - you can’t stay here forever talking, and he’s usually more aware of the time than you are. Time doesn't mean as much to you sometimes, when you get thoughtful like this. “I’ll let Artesia know everything.”
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>>5996667

21:35, 11th December UC 0077
Open space near Zum, Side Three (Republic of Zeon)


The interior of the Gwazine, one of the few warships within Zeon space to already be fully armed and outfitted for war, feels like a true warship. The passageways are more spacious than on a Musai-Class to allow for the larger crew to move freely, but still tight and heavily armored, blast doors marking off every ten meter section. Uniformed sailors already wearing what you know to be the true uniforms of Zeon walk past, exchanging glances with one another as they catch sight of you and Vivima but not daring to even whisper a word. They are, to a man, die-hard Gihrenists, his true believers, almost worshippers of the Zabi family - Vivima’s presence keeps any resentment they might hold for you well at bay, but you suspect many probably believe you think just as they do. As it stands you’re wearing your full

The secondary bridge of the vessel, buried deep within its hull, lies just ahead of you beyond a tall arching metal door, more ceremonial than practical. This section of the vessel is somewhat enlarged compared to the rest to allow for a far grander appearance, a dash of the ridiculous Zabi grandeur they infect everything with. It doubles as a kind of throne room, a place to receive important guests and the surrender of enemy captains - a place of prestige. At least that you can agree with on some level, there are some ceremonies that require a place to be set aside for them, but this is too much - the bridge would be fine on its own, it is noble enough. You already know that beyond those doors, Gihren must be sitting like some ancient tyrant, waiting for the both of you…

>And so you head in together. May as well get this unpleasantness out of the way, he might take it better if you see him first.
>...But you’re not going in there first, Kycilia’s ship has docked to the Gwazine as well, and you’re meeting with her in a smaller room nearby. You know she’d prefer you speak with her first.

Also, did you bring anyone else beyond Tryphosa and Izumi with you? They’re both back on your own ship, not next to you currently.
>Write-in (Who?) Not Artesia, Casval, or Garma.
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>>5996670
To be clear, you CAN bring your friends for this, it'll cause more of a headache for them later though. Tiff and Rix are kind of fucked up, both physically (Dozle's a VERY big man) and also from downing an astounding amount of alcohol earlier.
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>>5996670
>And so you head in together. May as well get this unpleasantness out of the way, he might take it better if you see him first.
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>>5996670
>And so you head in together. May as well get this unpleasantness out of the way, he might take it better if you see him first.

Suck it up, bite the bullet, get it over with, etc etc
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>>5996670
>...But you’re not going in there first, Kycilia’s ship has docked to the Gwazine as well, and you’re meeting with her in a smaller room nearby. You know she’d prefer you speak with her first.
>Rix and Tiff.
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>>5996670
>And so you head in together. May as well get this unpleasantness out of the way, he might take it better if you see him first.
I'm less worried about Kycilia. She'll be mad I'm sure but she probably also got something out of this whole mess.
>Rix and Tiff
We owe them a vacation after making them fistfight Dadzel. They should be on the ship though, not here.
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>>5996686
Anyone you bring will be on the ship, not here. This is just Felix and Viv.
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>>5996690
Oh, sorry, thought your last spoiler implied that they'd be dicking around on the Gwazine.
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>>5996693
Ah, yeah, I guess it isn't super clear in the post: there are three ships. Yours and Viv's Musai, the Gwazine, and a Musai Kycilia basically commandeered. Only the Gwazine is openly armed, the other two are still in their peace time freighter disguises with no visible weapons. Now that we're past the Dawn Rebellion, much, MUCH less stuff is going to be kept in the shadows. This is the first time the Gwazine has been out semi-openly.
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>>5996704
>MUCH less stuff is going to be kept in the shadows
Hindsight being 20/20, using a Zaku was the wrong move. Can't wait to see the major ramifications for showing the effectiveness of MS prior to the start of the OYW.
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>>5996670
>...But you’re not going in there first, Kycilia’s ship has docked to the Gwazine as well, and you’re meeting with her in a smaller room nearby. You know she’d prefer you speak with her first.
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>>5996670
>And so you head in together. May as well get this unpleasantness out of the way, he might take it better if you see him first
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>>5996670
>...But you’re not going in there first, Kycilia’s ship has docked to the Gwazine as well, and you’re meeting with her in a smaller room nearby. You know she’d prefer you speak with her first.
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>Ramifications of the Federation seeing a single MS disable a cruiser.
Yeah, that might have some interesting consequences, but it definitely isn't the first time they've seen a MS in action. They already have their shitty proto-Guncannons, so they kind of have their own MS, but they really do suck major ass in almost every way even compared to a normal Zaku. That's even more the case for the really old guntanks which have been around for ages and explicitly aren't for war but instead crushing riots and small time rebels.
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>>5996670
>And so you head in together. May as well get this unpleasantness out of the way, he might take it better if you see him first.

>Izumi
nah she's drinking with Rix
>Tryph
If she wants I guess, let her know/invite her, but its up to her.
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>>5996844
Frankly those proto guncannons were just utilised with the wrong doctrines. They used them like tanks or walking landships which negates their innate agility.
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>>5996670
>...But you’re not going in there first, Kycilia’s ship has docked to the Gwazine as well, and you’re meeting with her in a smaller room nearby. You know she’d prefer you speak with her first.

>>5996860
>0.5 Guncannon
>agility
>lol, lmao even
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>>5996704
Speaking of the Gwazine, what do you prefer Cont, the original anime's fish eye design or the more restrained IGLOO version?
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>>5997029
Definitely the original or Stardust Memory versions.

>>5996860
They had garbage armor (easily perforated by the weakest version of the Zaku machinegun), garbage weapons (they're seen deflecting off a Zaku I and a Bugu, that's abysmal performance), they were slower to maneuver and accelerate, and generally looked like they handled like a complete pig. The doctrine was also bad, which might have gotten them all killed on its own, but the problems were really on every level.
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>>5996852
Gihren wins, writing. Hope that isn't a summary of the OYW as well. We'll come back to whether anyone else was brought along later, but it seems like most anons opted not to include anyone beyond Tryph and Izumi (who both might get dropped off before going to Luna II, really depends on what you plan on doing).
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>>5997091
I'd probably prefer to have Tryph along, considering we're going to be walking into a hornet's nest.
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>>5997115
I'd rather not put such a target on her back, especially now that she's getting eyes on her because of the rebellion.
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>>5997121
That's a fair point I suppose, but some extra protection would be nice. What about Izumi instead, or both? It's not like Tryph has to be next to us for her to warn us of danger or tell us about a person's feelings. She could stay on the ship, or in disguise as an adjutant of some kind.
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>>5997156
Having Izumi might be alright, but I don't want to have Tryph around as we talk to either of them. I imagine both Kycilia and Gihren know about Tryphosa more and where she's from based on her being in the lab often and collaborating.
Also I thought both Izumi and Tryphosa were already in the ship itself along us.
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The tall doors ahead of you part, allowing a view of the secondary bridge - the throne room - which lies beyond them. A rich red carpet runs all the way from the door to the foot of a dais upon which sits a great marble seat of simple geometric design, its sharp angles exuding strength. It is unlike the ostentatious seats of the palace on Zum, but still speaks to a kind of royal standing, an unquestionable authority. A black symbol of Zeon is engraved upon the chair’s back, and red banners hang from the many pillars flanking the sides of the room. In front of the pillars, guards stand at attention, and beyond them near the walls a few officers man a number of flashing terminals and sensor displays. The bridge part of this room is clearly secondary in more than one way, it would be difficult to actually command with such an unorthodox layout… Perhaps a newtype could do so, though.

Gihren sits atop the throne imperiously, waiting, an thin arrogant smile forming on his features as he sees you walk in behind Vivima. He’s a well regulated man, neatly groomed blue hair - almost gray in most light - and wearing a pristine uniform he never did a single thing to earn. Indeed, he has modeled himself after the ancient dictators of Earth who admires so much in many ways, but you cannot deny that he still strikes an imposing figure. He is a powerful man, both politically and by will alone. He is dangerous.

“Vivima, my beloved sister… and Felix.” Gihren’s voice sounds like an echo of his father’s but far younger, filled with a darker greed than Degwin has ever know, one you feel at times in Vivima as well, “I see you still have some sense of our family’s priorities.”

“I would never leave you waiting, dearest brother.” Vivima’s words come half as an apology, her head bowing slightly in respect to her eldest brother. You mimic the gesture, though it never sits will with you to do so, filling you with disgust - wearing a mask around the Zabis is something you and your siblings have all become accustomed to though, even if it slips at times. “Why have you summoned us, Gihren?”

“You know, beloved sister.” Gihren taps one gloved hand on the arm of his throne, pressing down on a button. The messages you and Vivima broadcast earlier in the day begin to play throughout the throne room, just quiet enough to be spoken over without discomfort, “A bold broadcast, but it is off message. Ideologically weak.”
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>>5997248

“So it may seem,” Vivima half agrees, her mind clouded to you once more, “But the rebellion itself showed our strength in other ways, and the Federation has been driven from Zeon when yesterday they had their boot on our necks. The greater plan worked perfectly, the message was just one cog.”

“...A ploy then, to ease tensions.” Gihren remarks dryly, his dark eyes surveying the both of you with an intense suspicion, one you’ve never seen him direct upon Vivima before, “It was unnecessary, the arc of history already bends in our favor, beloved sister. Striking a blow against the corrupt Elite of the Earth was inspired however, it was the perfect time to deliver the first cut. It was your plan, Vivima?”

“It was Casval’s.” Vivima admits, drawing a faint frown from Gihren, his nose and brow wrinkling in annoyance or perhaps disgust, “The message was my own, and the humiliation of their navy by our guard’s mobile suit. It was needed, parts of a greater whole.”

“No, there was no reason to show such weakness, the Federation would not have begun a war today - they are cowards, as you’ve seen. You aren’t as experienced in these matters, my beloved sister.” Gihren’s heavy gaze settles solely on you now - you look so very similar to Casval in some lighting, and so of course you now become the focus of Gihren’s ire, “Felix, you read your father’s speech well, I remember helping to write it when I was barely older than you are now. It was always too weak.”

Thank you.” You meet his gaze unwaveringly, there’s nothing to be ashamed of in reading your father’s old words whatever it is Gihren now thinks, but you explain the circumstances regardless, “One of the men under our command chose the speech himself - he was wounded taking the radio station, so I read it in his place. In a perfect world I would have chosen my father’s last speech.”

“Is that so?” Gihren questions, chuckling darkly - of course he knows of your father’s intent to declare independence years ago, “A convenient injury… The time for Zeon’s last words will soon be at hand, but this is not how we should approach that day.”

“It is not how we will approach it, only you steer the ship of state, dearest brother. We both know Father is too old to lead, he deserves a peaceful retirement,” Vivima speaks respectfully, almost reverently, but she isn’t giving ground, not truly, “But I stand by what we have done together today. It was necessary, I am sure you will see that. We acted as one, as we will continue to.”
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>>5997250

“...As one?” Gihren is too sharp to let the phrasing slip by.

“It is my intention that we are to be married.” Vivima announces, reaching out to hold your hand in hers - you accept it for now, standing firm as Gihren’s eyes widen.

Deikun-” He begins to raise his voice, losing his composure for the briefest moment, lips wrinkling up in a snarl.

“It was my idea.” Vivima nearly shouts, cutting Gihren off before he can fully direct his anger upon you. He presumes too much, arrogant as ever. “Do you see it now, dearest brother, that everything we said today aligns with your true vision?”

The question stops him in his tracks, and Gihren leans back for a long moment to consider his youngest sister’s words, thinking through them very deliberately. At last he nods the slightest degree, “I do. You should not have shown such weakness, even for that. It is too subtle, it could be twisted.”

“Of course you think so, dearest brother, that is why only you are fit to lead us.” You can almost feel the exclusion of ‘for now’ at the end of Vivima’s sentence, “A leader must always show strength.”

“This proposed marriage…” Gihren brings the new topic back into focus, his displeasure with it obvious even, “You have agreed to it, Felix?”

>”She’s a superior woman, how could I ever have denied it? I only wish I had understood her feelings sooner... but we have connected as newtypes now, and I see it clearly.” Yeah, yeah, kiss Gihren’s supremacist ass for a bit and play the lovestruck Deikun, corny newtype spiel and all. You haven’t actually agreed to anything yet, and you won’t until you’ve talked with Elena.
>”It’s a complicated matter. When I’ve made my decision, you will be one of the first to know.” Complicated is an understatement, but you dare not mention Elena directly. Drawing Gihren’s focus to her is unwise.
>”...I am considering it.” Don’t give him any more than that, let him think whatever he will, Vivima is better at handling him than you are.
>Write-in.
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>>5997253
1)
>”She’s a superior woman, how could I ever have denied it? I only wish I had understood her feelings sooner... but we have connected as newtypes now, and I see it clearly.” Yeah, yeah, kiss Gihren’s supremacist ass for a bit and play the lovestruck Deikun, corny newtype spiel and all. You haven’t actually agreed to anything yet, and you won’t until you’ve talked with Elena.
2)
>”...I am considering it.” Don’t give him any more than that, let him think whatever he will, Vivima is better at handling him than you are.
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>>5997253
>”She’s a superior woman, how could I ever have denied it? I only wish I had understood her feelings sooner... but we have connected as newtypes now, and I see it clearly.” Yeah, yeah, kiss Gihren’s supremacist ass for a bit and play the lovestruck Deikun, corny newtype spiel and all. You haven’t actually agreed to anything yet, and you won’t until you’ve talked with Elena.
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>>5997253
>Write-in
>"She is indeed the superior woman. Her genetics and higher status gives Zeon the symbolism of a united Spacenoid struggle against our lessers."
>"However I do not want to overstep against the vision you've worked so greatly for, and will require the harmony of our families for this matter." Kissing up to him might be distasteful, and you are not on board with this 'marriage', and you haven't agreed to anything yet. But you shall put up with it for now while not promising anything or condemning yourself and giving an easy way to back out of the marriage, all while assuring Gihren of your 'devotion' to his cause.
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>>5997253
>>5997257
Changing my vote to
1)
>"She is indeed the superior woman. Her genetics and higher status gives Zeon the symbolism of a united Spacenoid struggle against our lessers."
>"However I do not want to overstep against the vision you've worked so greatly for, and will require the harmony of our families for this matter." Kissing up to him might be distasteful, and you are not on board with this 'marriage', and you haven't agreed to anything yet. But you shall put up with it for now while not promising anything or condemning yourself and giving an easy way to back out of the marriage, all while assuring Gihren of your 'devotion' to his cause.
2)
>”She’s a superior woman, how could I ever have denied it? I only wish I had understood her feelings sooner... but we have connected as newtypes now, and I see it clearly.” Yeah, yeah, kiss Gihren’s supremacist ass for a bit and play the lovestruck Deikun, corny newtype spiel and all. You haven’t actually agreed to anything yet, and you won’t until you’ve talked with Elena.
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>>5997253
>”She’s a superior woman, how could I ever have denied it? I only wish I had understood her feelings sooner... but we have connected as newtypes now, and I see it clearly.” Yeah, yeah, kiss Gihren’s supremacist ass for a bit and play the lovestruck Deikun, corny newtype spiel and all. You haven’t actually agreed to anything yet, and you won’t until you’ve talked with Elena
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>>5997171
I was talking about taking them to Luna II anon, not the Gwazine.

>>5997253
>”It’s a complicated matter. When we've made our final decision, you will be one of the first to know.” Complicated is an understatement, but you dare not mention Elena directly. Drawing Gihren’s focus to her is unwise.

Gihren's too sharp not to see through the ass-kissing answer. Better to just say that things are a work-in-progress. And say US instead of I. Split his focus between Felix and Vivima.
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>>5997253
>>5997292
Support.
We is a good move.
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>>5997253
1)
>”...I am considering it.” Don’t give him any more than that, let him think whatever he will, Vivima is better at handling him than you are.
2)
>"She is indeed the superior woman. Her genetics and higher status gives Zeon the symbolism of a united Spacenoid struggle against our lessers."
>"However I do not want to overstep against the vision you've worked so greatly for, and will require the harmony of our families for this matter." Kissing up to him might be distasteful, and you are not on board with this 'marriage', and you haven't agreed to anything yet. But you shall put up with it for now while not promising anything or condemning yourself and giving an easy way to back out of the marriage, all while assuring Gihren of your 'devotion' to his cause.
3)
>”She’s a superior woman, how could I ever have denied it? I only wish I had understood her feelings sooner... but we have connected as newtypes now, and I see it clearly.” Yeah, yeah, kiss Gihren’s supremacist ass for a bit and play the lovestruck Deikun, corny newtype spiel and all. You haven’t actually agreed to anything yet, and you won’t until you’ve talked with Elena.
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>>5997253
>”It’s a complicated matter. When I’ve made my decision, you will be one of the first to know.” Complicated is an understatement, but you dare not mention Elena directly. Drawing Gihren’s focus to her is unwise.
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>>5997292
Support
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>>5997253
Kind of feel viv shouldn’t have told him this yet we haven’t even fully agreed
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>>5997253
1)
>”If it's for the greater good, then I'll do it." You haven't really decided yet, but you'll say this for now.
2)
>"She is indeed the superior woman. Her genetics and higher status gives Zeon the symbolism of a united Spacenoid struggle against our lessers."
>"However I do not want to overstep against the vision you've worked so greatly for, and will require the harmony of our families for this matter." Kissing up to him might be distasteful, and you are not on board with this 'marriage', and you haven't agreed to anything yet. But you shall put up with it for now while not promising anything or condemning yourself and giving an easy way to back out of the marriage, all while assuring Gihren of your 'devotion' to his cause.
3)
>”She’s a superior woman, how could I ever have denied it? I only wish I had understood her feelings sooner... but we have connected as newtypes now, and I see it clearly.” Yeah, yeah, kiss Gihren’s supremacist ass for a bit and play the lovestruck Deikun, corny newtype spiel and all. You haven’t actually agreed to anything yet, and you won’t until you’ve talked with Elena.
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>>5997253
>”She’s a superior woman, how could I ever have denied it? I only wish I had understood her feelings sooner... but we have connected as newtypes now, and I see it clearly.” Yeah, yeah, kiss Gihren’s supremacist ass for a bit and play the lovestruck Deikun, corny newtype spiel and all. You haven’t actually agreed to anything yet, and you won’t until you’ve talked with Elena.

It really is...Gihrens greed hours
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>>5997371
Yeah it's kind of messed up.

>>5997292
If you want the focus to be split you should be more specific. Saying "we" can mean Felix and Elena.
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>>5997253
>>5997378
+1
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>>5997253
>>5997292
+1
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I feel like the superior women answer is kind of a trap if we talk to Elena and she’s not on board we’ll have to say no making it look like we were sure of it will make gihren feel like we lied to him Kycilia too since we’ll definitely have to tell her the same just seems like an easy way to piss them off
>>5997381
I agree we need to specify viv and us
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>>5997253
>>”...I am considering it.” Don’t give him any more than that, let him think whatever he will, Vivima is better at handling him than you are.
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>>5997253
1)
>”If it's for the greater good, then I'll do it." You haven't really decided yet, but you'll say this for now.
2)
>"She is indeed the superior woman. Her genetics and higher status gives Zeon the symbolism of a united Spacenoid struggle against our lessers."
>"However I do not want to overstep against the vision you've worked so greatly for, and will require the harmony of our families for this matter." Kissing up to him might be distasteful, and you are not on board with this 'marriage', and you haven't agreed to anything yet. But you shall put up with it for now while not promising anything or condemning yourself and giving an easy way to back out of the marriage, all while assuring Gihren of your 'devotion' to his cause.
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>>5997253
>>5997410
Also add
3)
>”...I am considering it.” Don’t give him any more than that, let him think whatever he will, Vivima is better at handling him than you are.
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>>5997253
1)
>”If it's for the greater good, then I'll do it." You haven't really decided yet, but you'll say this for now.
2)
>"She is indeed the superior woman. Her genetics and higher status gives Zeon the symbolism of a united Spacenoid struggle against our lessers."
>"However I do not want to overstep against the vision you've worked so greatly for, and will require the harmony of our families for this matter." Kissing up to him might be distasteful, and you are not on board with this 'marriage', and you haven't agreed to anything yet. But you shall put up with it for now while not promising anything or condemning yourself and giving an easy way to back out of the marriage, all while assuring Gihren of your 'devotion' to his cause
3)
>”...I am considering it.” Don’t give him any more than that, let him think whatever he will, Vivima is better at handling him than you are.
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>>5997381
>>5997405
A good point and well made. If it does win, Cont, please consider making it clear we mean Felix and Vivima with that "we". A smile, squeeze of the hand, that kind of thing.

Unfortunately, I don't think it will win. I'm not thrilled about people choosing to play into Gihren's ideas here, I personally think its a trap and a poor choice irregardless.

Speaking about poor ideas, we really need to find a way to get at the battle plans for the OYW. I dunno if Gihren has the colony gassing and colony dropping set in stone and in writing at this point, but early access to that information is critical if we want to stop it from happening. Just a thought I had.
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>>5997433
We need to stop the colony drop for sure it’s only to galvanize the earth civilians and neutral colonies against us best to keep this a war for independence in the eyes of the public don’t know what we could do to stop it though
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>>5997430
I'll also tentatively tack on
4)
>”She’s a superior woman, how could I ever have denied it? I only wish I had understood her feelings sooner... but we have connected as newtypes now, and I see it clearly.” Yeah, yeah, kiss Gihren’s supremacist ass for a bit and play the lovestruck Deikun, corny newtype spiel and all. You haven’t actually agreed to anything yet, and you won’t until you’ve talked with Elena.
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>>5996844
>They already have their shitty proto-Guncannons
This thing looks like a Thunderbolt suit, are you sure you're married to Origin, Contolist?
>>5997253
>”...I am considering it.” Don’t give him any more than that, let him think whatever he will, Vivima is better at handling him than you are.
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>>5997463
Yeah, cuz that's an Origin unit, you goober
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>>5997433
>battle plans
Vivima or Dozle are probably the best people to ask, but some ideas are likely to only exist in Gihren's head at this point. Felix does already know about the gigantic nuclear exchange that is likely to happen at the beginning of the war, which is definitely at the same scale of horrific loss of life as the drop ends up being. He also knows the name of Jaburo and that it is a gigantic underground base in Brazil which has been under construction for years, thanks to Elena's mother's depression spiral while working as one of Anaheim's representative on the Federation's missile defense committee. This is all back in thread three I think, Elena knows a LOT and it just isn't talked about much since she's refocused her future around Felix and their kids. That shift in focus was more for her own sanity, she's mostly helpless to stop a war but can so things to keep her loved ones alive. Her mother is still working at Anaheim by the way, Elena has been trying to reach back out to her with limited success.

>>5997463
It's an Origin design.
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>>5997465
>It's an Origin design.
>>5997465
>Yeah, cuz that's an Origin unit, you goober
And it looks like shit, like the Thunderbolt suits do. Those series didn't share mech designers either.
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>>5997508
Well I dunno if anybody else is willing to support me on this, but personally I think we need to get somebody to keep their ear on the war planning department. The sooner we learn about the colony gas attacks and Operation British the better chance we'll have to stop it.

>>5997509
It looks like shit intentionally, anon.
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>>5997509
I agree that the Thunderbolt suits look like shit, but this one is supposed to look like shit. It is shit. That's the role it fills in the plot, it is very bad (and ugly, even being insulted in universe) and then gets destroyed easily. They're walking garbage.

>>5997510
>intentional
This anon gets it.
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>>5997253
>>5997292
1)
I'll support this

2)
>”She’s a superior woman, how could I ever have denied it? I only wish I had understood her feelings sooner... but we have connected as newtypes now, and I see it clearly.” Yeah, yeah, kiss Gihren’s supremacist ass for a bit and play the lovestruck Deikun, corny newtype spiel and all. You haven’t actually agreed to anything yet, and you won’t until you’ve talked with Elena.

I don't think it matters if he doesn't believes or not considering his overall opinion of Felix. Better to show unity with Vivima in front of him.
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Alright, time to start tallying things up. Might take a minute.
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>>5997253
1)
>”...I am considering it.” Don’t give him any more than that, let him think whatever he will, Vivima is better at handling him than you are.
2)
>"She is indeed the superior woman. Her genetics and higher status gives Zeon the symbolism of a united Spacenoid struggle against our lessers."
>"However I do not want to overstep against the vision you've worked so greatly for, and will require the harmony of our families for this matter." Kissing up to him might be distasteful, and you are not on board with this 'marriage', and you haven't agreed to anything yet. But you shall put up with it for now while not promising anything or condemning yourself and giving an easy way to back out of the marriage, all while assuring Gihren of your 'devotion' to his cause.
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>>5997258
>>5997273
>>5997379
>>5997724 (2nd)
Superior

>>5997269
>>5997271
>>5997378 (2nd)
>>5997395 (2nd)
>>5997410 (2nd)
>>5997430 (2nd)
>>5997341 (2nd)
>>5997823 (2nd)
Write-in. Wins (I think), writing.

>>5997292
>>5997331
>>5997364
>>5997369
>>5997404
Complicated

>>5997408
>>5997463
Considering

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>>5997823
Was still tallying because I got caught up helldiving so I'll count this one.
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>>5997834
Do you like the new cape design.
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>>5997837
Yes.
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“Vivima is the superior woman,” You choose your words with care and keep your voice steady, diving head first into Gihrenist rhetoric, even giving Vivima an approving glance - smiling for a moment as you imagine Elena were standing in her place instead. Years of hiding and living a double life have left you with a great ability to put on a mask, even if sometimes you do still get caught off guard, “Her genetics and high status gives the people of Zeon a symbol of Spacenoid unity to rally about in our struggle against our lessers. If we’re to achieve your vision of a superior race, then it will require the harmony of our families in this matter.”

Vivima squeezes your hand a bit tighter, perhaps you’ve laid things on too thick. Gihren’s expression remains mostly unreadable, dark eyes watching you with suspicion, but eventually he leans back in his seat and nods slightly, “...So it will, unity of vision must be maintained.”

“We will follow where you lead, dearest brother.” Vivima answers, raising your hand with her into a kind of salute, “Sieg Zeon.”

“Sieg Zeon.” You say with her, trying to put more heart into it than during the broadcast. It is difficult to get a read on Gihren, whatever can be said about him his mind is shut tight like a steel trap - closed not just to opposing ideas, but also to being felt. All you can feel from him is greed, a ceaseless hunger for more power. He is not pleased, that much you are certain of, but is he ever for more than a moment? Joy eludes the man, always beyond the next conquest, the next speech, the next war. He won't rest even if he controlled the whole Earth Sphere.

“...Yes, Sieg Zeon.” Gihren says dismissively, dismissing you both with a wave of his hand, “Go, beloved sister, and bring no more troubles to Zeon. Speak with greater care when you meet with Revil… And Felix, you should rid yourself of that Earthnoid woman of yours.”

Vivima pulls on your hand slightly, and together you turn and depart from the room, heading back out through the arched door and into the more traditional passageways beyond. A very short meeting, but an unpleasant one. How Casval manages to spend days at a time with the man is beyond you.
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>>5998301

Once you are out of earshot of passing crew members, Vivima lets go of your hand and speaks in a hushed tone, “I’m sorry for dropping that on you like that, Felix, I couldn’t think of a better way to get the point across. Thank you for coming with me though, I… have a harder time standing up to him on my own. Calming family tension is a lot easier.”

“I understand.” You truly do, it’s difficult for you to oppose Casval at times for probably similar reasons - in a way it’s almost a mirrored relationship, a charismatic but more extreme older brother, except Gihren is significantly older, probably more of a second father figure to her. You definitely have an easier time reconciling him and Artesia than you do in getting them to really agree with you, there’s almost always compromise. “...Are we going to tell Kycilia as well?”

“She’ll have heard.” Vivima replies with a sigh, violet eyes focused ahead, watching for any sign of approaching crew as you make your way toward the room Kycilia waits within - you both refused an escort earlier, familiar enough with the deck layout of a Gwazine-class vessel to get around fine, “You understand that too, don’t you?”

“She’s probably listening right now.” You nod. The secondary bridge must have been bugged, perhaps even the throne itself, “...How do you think things went with Gihren? Think I might’ve pissed him off.”

“Rough, but we’ll survive. You could have chosen your words more carefully, it… Hmm, I’m sounding like him again. I do that a lot, don’t I?” Vivima stops herself before she nearly repeats her brother’s scolding word for word, shaking her head. She does mimic him a lot, “I don’t think he believed you, so he intends Elena to be a test of ideological loyalty. He’ll want you to get rid of her… or he will, to gauge your reaction.”

“That’s monstrous.” A chill runs through you at her words, not a doubt in your mind that they’re true.

Vivima doesn’t deny the accusation, frowning slightly, “I won’t let it happen, I promise. When I can speak to him alone, after this crisis has settled, I’ll try to get him to drop the idea. And if not then Zeonic is still mine and Kycilia’s, we can stop his followers from doing anything rash. Kycilia likes both of you, Elena especially.“

“Kycilia?” You scoff slightly, your mask slipping a bit more now that your fiancé is being openly threatened, “Are you sure you’re not thinking of someone else?”

“You don’t understand her at all.” Viv huffs, not quite in exasperation or annoyance but something rather close to both. That brief ire passes soon though, her tone serious and heartfelt as she continues, “She regrets the tower, it was a mistake.”
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>>5998304

“...So you’ve said.” You still don’t buy that at all, Kycilia is a soulless witch, “I’ve moved past it for unity’s sake, there’s nothing more to discuss on that.”

“You haven’t. I’m not blind.” Vivima’s silky voice remains low and quiet, stopping for a moment as a few crew members walk past and give brief salutes - saluting your status rather than rank, as neither of you hold any real position now, “...We talked about it again a few months ago when she was at Zeonic with me, after… after we had spoken with Elena, and seen your kids. My sister wishes she’d had you moved into the palace instead of the tower, you never would have been able to leave that way, and we could have grown up together. Just like Mineva and Max and Luna will… can you imagine that?”

“Glemy too.” You smile, thinking for a moment on what could have been - there’s a dark edge to it all, you would have been hostages and probably ended up brainwashed Gihrenist puppets, but there’s something undeniably pleasant about the idea. Years of hiding and fear could have been avoided, even if life in the palace would have its own anxieties it would have been more peaceful, lacking the horror the villa experienced… a lot more people would still be alive. But you never would have met Elena if that had happened, or had your kids, so maybe things did end up the way they were meant to be. It’s impossible to know.

“Glemy will be the older brother to the rest of them, it’s good he looks so similar - I don’t think they’ll see each other as being all that different. And there won’t be any unpleasant hostage situation hanging over any of them.” Vivima surprises you a little by actually acknowledging the difference in the situations, “The future will be better than the past ever could have been, if we keep working together - but I can’t help but think about it anyways.”

“We’ll have more time to work on that now that we’re not in the academy, silver lining to the whole thing.” You note, glad to have more time for Elena and your kids as well - even if you might have to keep Elena out of Gihren’s sights more actively now, “I’ve missed Glemy, little guy is growing up fast.”

“He is.” Vivima smiles warmly, speaking more at a normal level again now that the conversation has passed on from more sensitive topics - she always beams like this when speaking about the kids, any of them, “He really looks up to you, you know. Casval and Garma too. He needed older brothers, and until you came here I couldn’t ever get Garma or Dozle to really… engage. And your mother has been wonderful with him.”
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>>5998307

“She needed him too, I think.” Your smile shrinks slightly, the door to the meeting room Kycilia waits within now just ahead of you. Stopping just in front of it, the guard stationed outside knocks on the door, and it swishes open. It is a simple mission planning room, screens lining the walls and a large digital mapping table taking up most of the middle of the chamber. Kycilia is standing, bent over the map and studying the orbits of a dozen different fleets, a few more devices set about on the table with their own information readouts. Intelligence work never ends, but you rarely see her actually working away at it like this.

“Enter.” She says through her purple veil, wearing her full regalia today - something she’s become increasingly fond of in the last year or so. Only her eyes and few locks of red hair show between her helmet and the concealing purple cloth, “I woke up to the mess you two have created. Do you know what you’ve done?”

“Given you a gift.” Vivima laughs, point on the map to some movements near Luna - she’s gotten a quick read of the situation, and it doesn’t take you long now either. The usual Federation security fleets stationed around the moon are being repositioned, leaving some pretty huge openings in the better orbits for other craft to slip through without notice, “Look at all this chaos to play in, I’m sure you’ll find some secrets to squeeze out of it.”

Kycilia laughs coldly along with her younger sister, a pair of witches, and then waves her over with a gloved hand. You follow close behind, standing alongside them as you all peer at the map.

“They’re giving up what they know without realizing it.” Kycilia remarks, pointing toward more blue blips moving across the map of the Earth Sphere, fleeing from different colonies around Side Three and Six, “They know where we have many of our reserves positioned, as well as mustering areas for mobilization - they’re pulling to safe distance first in higher risk areas. This confirms much of what I already suspected, we’ll need another round of spy hunts.”

“Positions can be reshuffled, spies can be shot. You didn’t call us here to help with planning though, did you?” You ask, handling Kycilia a bit better than Gihren and managing to get another cold laugh out of her just as Vivima did.

“Ha, and so they will be.” Kycilia turns off the map with the press of a button at the table’s edge and then turns to face both of you, “I have no need of your help with those matters. I called you here to discuss your message earlier - though one of my questions has already been answered.”

“You were listening then, you still have your edge, Kycilia.” Vivima just leaps right ahead, guessing at once what Kycilia has gleaned, “Marriage is a sensible path forward.”
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>>5998311

“I’ve found remaining open to possibilities is more useful, but we do have different roles to play, don’t we?” Kycilia questions, an eyebrow arching slightly beneath her helmet as she eyes you both, “Felix, what are your intentions with my sister - speak plainly, I won’t suffer the same foolishness you displayed with Gihren.”

“I haven’t made a decision yet.” You answer truthfully, knowing better than to try to lie directly to Kycilia’s face when she’s actively watching for deception, “There hasn’t been a chance to discuss things with Elena yet, I can’t act without her.”

“So I thought.” Kycilia sounds… pleased? What the hell? “You love Elena.”

“I do.” You confirm at once.

“...That’s good.” Kycilia answers again in a pleased but still haughty tone, “Vivima, a courtly arrangement still suits you?”

“At the present, yes.” Vivima replies, keeping nearly as open about her position as you are on your own.

“Acceptable. I wish you both success.” Kycilia claps her hands together lightly, barely making a sound, “With that resolved, we can turn to the real-”

“...Just like that?” You ask aloud, shocked by how easily Kycilia is taking all of this. Some of it might be an act, in fact some of it probably is, but you’d expected her to be far more upset about her younger sister choosing to throw her life into a loveless marriage. Instead she seems… happy. Maybe you really don’t understand her, she’s as difficult to read as Gihren is.

“What, did you expect me to torture you?” Kycilia mocks, some her ‘usual’ self peeking out from the whatever shriveled and blackened thing she’d call a heart - there she is, “I can bring out the hot pokers and breaking wheel if you’re so desperate for it, boy. There’s no time for games today. We need to discuss your visit to Luna II, this is a rare opportunity.”

“Of course… You don’t want to discuss our message?” You question, a bit confused again. Kycilia laughs again, but you don’t shrink away from it.

“No, I don’t care at all what you said, it’s for the masses - If it awakens newtypes, all the better for us, but if not then it is just Gihren’s problem. A war is not going to start, I’ve seen to that, and we’re positioned to take the greatest advantage of any newtype activity that might occur from it.” Kycilia blitzes through the topic, her mind clearly already made up and actions already taken which knowing her she is certainly not going to speak on further. Her read of the situation is fairly reasonable, considering her usual concerns, if still woefully limited by her willful twisting of newtypes into a tool, “Your song was lovely, Vivima.”

“Thank you.” Vivima receives the compliment with a small smile, “I knew you would like it. What do you need us to do when we meet with Revil?”
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>>5998316

“There is another Federation general who will be there, Elran - he has a data recorder which I will need you to carry back with you. Revil is an honorable fool, so I’m sure he will allow you a diplomatic pouch. It is not a difficult task.”

“Do we know what is on the recorder?” You ask, wondering what secrets this Federation spy might be delivering.

“No, but he is one of our highest level spies in the Federation - It is important we recover it. It likely one of his aides will approach you with it, I doubt he would risk revealing himself. Beyond that task, I ask only that you keep your senses open. A pair of newtypes being allowed to walk within Luna II is not an opportunity we will be presented with often; I expect a full report.”

>”It won’t be a problem. I plan to stop at Side Seven after the meeting, in disguise. Just for a vacation, not more spy work.” You’ll get to pick if others will meet you there in disguise as well.
>>”It won’t be a problem. I plan to stop at Side Seven after the meeting, in disguise. The Federation still has a weapons research facility there, don’t they?” You’ll get to pick others to come, as above. Elena would enjoy this, it’s the kind of thing that really excites her, but there is serious danger to it.
>Write-in (Maybe you don’t want to betray Revil’s trust? He probably won’t find out though.)
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>>5998318
>”It won’t be a problem. I plan to stop at Side Seven after the meeting, in disguise. The Federation still has a weapons research facility there, don’t they?” You’ll get to pick others to come, as above. Elena would enjoy this, it’s the kind of thing that really excites her, but there is serious danger to it.
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>>5998318
>”It won’t be a problem. I plan to stop at Side Seven after the meeting, in disguise. The Federation still has a weapons research facility there, don’t they?” You’ll get to pick others to come, as above. Elena would enjoy this, it’s the kind of thing that really excites her, but there is serious danger to it.
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>>5998318
>”It won’t be a problem. I plan to stop at Side Seven after the meeting, in disguise. The Federation still has a weapons research facility there, don’t they?” You’ll get to pick others to come, as above. Elena would enjoy this, it’s the kind of thing that really excites her, but there is serious danger to it.
Already did it once, what's a second time? Upped security and feddie presence only adds to the fun I suppose.
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>>5998318
>”It won’t be a problem. I plan to stop at Side Seven after the meeting, in disguise. The Federation still has a weapons research facility there, don’t they?” You’ll get to pick others to come, as above. Elena would enjoy this, it’s the kind of thing that really excites her, but there is serious danger to it.
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>>5998318
>”It won’t be a problem. I plan to stop at Side Seven after the meeting, in disguise. Just for a vacation, not more spy work.” You’ll get to pick if others will meet you there in disguise as well.

I was expecting Ghiren to be the more reasonable one. Caught me lacking in this timeline.
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>>5998318
Honestly, I'm not sure who frightens me more, Gihren or Kycilia. Gihren is at least fairly easily understood. Hes an insane megalomaniac with designs on the entire solar system. But Kycilia...I still have no idea if she wants.

>”It won’t be a problem. I plan to stop at Side Seven after the meeting, in disguise. The Federation still has a weapons research facility there, don’t they?” You’ll get to pick others to come, as above. Elena would enjoy this, it’s the kind of thing that really excites her, but there is serious danger to it.
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>>5998321
>>5998334
>>5998336
>>5998373
>>5998584
Spy (vacation). Wins, writing.

>>5998447
Normal vacation.
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>>5998318
>>>”It won’t be a problem. I plan to stop at Side Seven after the meeting, in disguise. The Federation still has a weapons research facility there, don’t they?” You’ll get to pick others to come, as above. Elena would enjoy this, it’s the kind of thing that really excites her, but there is serious danger to it.
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”It won’t be a problem.” You agree with Kycilia’s assessment of the situation, receiving items from a spy’s assistant and keeping your senses sharp while at Luna II shouldn’t be difficult at all. ”I plan to stop at Side Seven after the meeting, in disguise. The Federation still has a weapons research facility there, don’t they?”

“Yes, and a very difficult one to get a man into as well.” Kcyilia’s brow wrinkles slightly, her veil concealing much of the rest of her reaction - annoyance, but not at you. She must have tried this before, with someone else, “The last reports I received on it indicated it was seeing less us, deprioritized - You’re looking to make yourself more useful? That’s a dangerous assignment for someone of your… standing.”

It’s clear Kycilia holds some reservations about the plan, but she isn’t speaking against it - curious.

“A palate cleanser after the academy,” You nod, still trying to get a solid sense of the cruel Zabi, never quite grasping what it is that’s going on behind her dark eyes - Is this a lack of care for your safety, or confidence in your ability? Both? Neither? “I was thinking I’d invite Elena along, our disguises from before should still be fine.”

“I’m sure she’ll enjoy that, your mother can look after the twins for a few days. …You’re slightly more recognizable now, Felix.” Vivima understates the issue, “How about black hair?”

“It’s worked fine before, simple enough to explain if I meet anyone who knows me…” Doubts do spring up in your mind now though, especially after the broadcast - though you weren’t in any of the videos that were sent across the earth sphere, the news has surely plastered your picture all over television screens and the papers, “I doubt my voice is too recognizable from one broadcast, or my face - Casval’s the one people really watch.”

“Most people have pitifully short memories, you could probably stay a blonde and they wouldn’t see a thing if you wore a hat and common clothes. Most of the public is blind and clueless.” Kycilia’s words are harsh, but actually ring true to you - just not for the same reasons. She dismisses them as lesser, or simply lacking in cunning, but you know most people miss things because they have their own lives to get to, their own concerns. Who spends all day thinking about some dead foreign leader’s son? …The girls who send you fan mail, maybe, but that’s almost all from Zeon, not a serious concern.

“I think I’ll remain with you for this, Tryphosa would be helpful as well.” Vivima says after considering the issue a while longer, “This should be fun...”
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>>5998759

06:55, 12th December UC 0077
Zeonic Corporation New Factory A, Side Three (Republic of Zeon)


Standing inside your new home at Zeonic, you hold your son Max in your arms, swaddled in a star covered black blanket and looking quite adorable as he sleeps. Elena is with you, holding your daughter Terra-Luna, who is groggy but awake, blue eyes peering around curiously - she’s happy to see you, cooing happily on occasion. Elena looks lovely as always, her long hair is worn up in a ponytail and she’s in a simple silk nightgown - one your mother gifted her, not her usual style - and the two of you have been speaking for some time now about the Rebellion and what is to come now that you’re no longer at the academy.

“...And she wants to marry you?” Elena asks, restraining her unhappiness at the idea so as to not upset the children, but you can see the wheels turning in her head as well, her head tilting just slightly as the idea is considered, probed, and poked. “For the public image of it, I’m guessing - I don’t think she’s all that fond of men, even you. Mostly. I still don’t like it.”

“I don’t either. She lobbed the offer at me like a grenade when I was trying to ask about what she’d say on the broadcast, didn’t plan on asking like that from what she said.” You rock Max gently, feeling truly fulfilled at this moment even deep in such an anxiety inducing topic - being so close to your children always clears things in your mind, fills you with a kind of purpose, a place that you would have had a difficult time every understanding before they were born. “It makes sense politically, but… Not personally. I don’t really want to do it.”

“...Do you think it would save lives?” Elena’s question is a simple but cutting one, getting right at the bigger picture, and the refocusing on the very small but most important issue to you both, “Or help keep these two safe? I know you’re mine, Felix, and I’m yours. Nothing we do is really safe anymore, but they…”

She looks down at Luna’s blue eyes; they both have beautiful smiles, your soon to be wife and your daughter, “...They need to be kept safe. Don’t you? Yes, you do… Especially with what you said of your meeting with Gihren.”

“That’s my real concern.” You sigh, stroking your son’s blond hair with the thumb of your hand, silky soft.
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>>5998762

“...I need time to think about this.” Elena replies after a moment long of distracting your daughter with one of her fingers, eliciting an excited little laugh from her, “That trip to Green Noa does sound fun - Vivima and Tryphosa will be there?”

“They will be.”

“The three of us will have a lot to talk about.” Elena falls silent for a moment, emerald green eyes meet your own - it tugs at your heart whenever she looks at you like this, and even after so long together you still smile at the sight, “...Let’s get married there, on Green Noa. We can have another ceremony here, for your family, just like we’ve been planning, but I don’t want to wait anymore.”

>”...But we *should* wait until we’re back, Elena. I want to do things right, you shouldn’t have to live in the shadows.” You still intend to marry her in a full ceremony, no sneaking around, no repeats, your whole family present. Presenting her publicly might still be a step too far, but she isn’t some mistress to be kept hidden.
>”...Why not now? Right now, this minute. I’m sure we can find someone to officiate it.” The Earth Sphere is only getting more dangerous every day, why wait at all? You both love each other, and the spontaneity of it excites you. You can do a bigger ceremony another time for family and the memories.
>”Then we’ll be married there.” Side Seven’s one and only colony is quite beautiful - not spectacularly so, but there’s a charm to it that surpasses much of even Zeon, and you have good memories there together already. It's a fine place for it, something to look forward to besides the excitement of spy work.
>Write-in.
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>>5998765
>>”...But we *should* wait until we’re back, Elena. I want to do things right, you shouldn’t have to live in the shadows.” You still intend to marry her in a full ceremony, no sneaking around, no repeats, your whole family present. Presenting her publicly might still be a step too far, but she isn’t some mistress to be kept hidden.
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>>5998765
>”...Why not now? Right now, this minute. I’m sure we can find someone to officiate it.” The Earth Sphere is only getting more dangerous every day, why wait at all? You both love each other, and the spontaneity of it excites you. You can do a bigger ceremony another time for family and the memories.
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>>5998765
>”Then we’ll be married there.” Side Seven’s one and only colony is quite beautiful - not spectacularly so, but there’s a charm to it that surpasses much of even Zeon, and you have good memories there together already. It's a fine place for it, something to look forward to besides the excitement of spy work.
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>>5998765
>”Then we’ll be married there.” Side Seven’s one and only colony is quite beautiful - not spectacularly so, but there’s a charm to it that surpasses much of even Zeon, and you have good memories there together already. It's a fine place for it, something to look forward to besides the excitement of spy work.
Why not? Green Noa is beautiful, the picture-perfect ideal of what a colony should look like, even if it was built to be a Federation Black Site. Hopefully we can avoid having a hole blown in the side of it in this timeline.
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>>5998765
>>”...Why not now? Right now, this minute. I’m sure we can find someone to officiate it.” The Earth Sphere is only getting more dangerous every day, why wait at all? You both love each other, and the spontaneity of it excites you. You can do a bigger ceremony another time for family and the memories.
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>>5998765
>”Then we’ll be married there.” Side Seven’s one and only colony is quite beautiful - not spectacularly so, but there’s a charm to it that surpasses much of even Zeon, and you have good memories there together already. It's a fine place for it, something to look forward to besides the excitement of spy work.
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>>5998765
>”Then we’ll be married there.” Side Seven’s one and only colony is quite beautiful - not spectacularly so, but there’s a charm to it that surpasses much of even Zeon, and you have good memories there together already. It's a fine place for it, something to look forward to besides the excitement of spy work.
Was where we did our first spy mission with her. Good venue.
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>>5998765
1)
>”...Why not now? Right now, this minute. I’m sure we can find someone to officiate it.” The Earth Sphere is only getting more dangerous every day, why wait at all? You both love each other, and the spontaneity of it excites you. You can do a bigger ceremony another time for family and the memories.
2)
>”...But we *should* wait until we’re back, Elena. I want to do things right, you shouldn’t have to live in the shadows.” You still intend to marry her in a full ceremony, no sneaking around, no repeats, your whole family present. Presenting her publicly might still be a step too far, but she isn’t some mistress to be kept hidden.
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>>5998765
>”Then we’ll be married there.” Side Seven’s one and only colony is quite beautiful - not spectacularly so, but there’s a charm to it that surpasses much of even Zeon, and you have good memories there together already. It's a fine place for it, something to look forward to besides the excitement of spy work.
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>>5998765
>”...Why not now? Right now, this minute. I’m sure we can find someone to officiate it.” The Earth Sphere is only getting more dangerous every day, why wait at all? You both love each other, and the spontaneity of it excites you. You can do a bigger ceremony another time for family and the memories.
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>>5998765
1)
>”Then we’ll be married there.” Side Seven’s one and only colony is quite beautiful - not spectacularly so, but there’s a charm to it that surpasses much of even Zeon, and you have good memories there together already. It's a fine place for it, something to look forward to besides the excitement of spy work.
2)
>”...But we *should* wait until we’re back, Elena. I want to do things right, you shouldn’t have to live in the shadows.” You still intend to marry her in a full ceremony, no sneaking around, no repeats, your whole family present. Presenting her publicly might still be a step too far, but she isn’t some mistress to be kept hidden.
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>>5998765
1)
>”...Why not now? Right now, this minute. I’m sure we can find someone to officiate it.” The Earth Sphere is only getting more dangerous every day, why wait at all? You both love each other, and the spontaneity of it excites you. You can do a bigger ceremony another time for family and the memories.
2)
>”...But we *should* wait until we’re back, Elena. I want to do things right, you shouldn’t have to live in the shadows.” You still intend to marry her in a full ceremony, no sneaking around, no repeats, your whole family present. Presenting her publicly might still be a step too far, but she isn’t some mistress to be kept hidden.
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>>5998765
1)
>”...Why not now? Right now, this minute. I’m sure we can find someone to officiate it.” The Earth Sphere is only getting more dangerous every day, why wait at all? You both love each other, and the spontaneity of it excites you. You can do a bigger ceremony another time for family and the memories.
2)
>”...Why not now? Right now, this minute. I’m sure we can find someone to officiate it.” The Earth Sphere is only getting more dangerous every day, why wait at all? You both love each other, and the spontaneity of it excites you. You can do a bigger ceremony another time for family and the memories.
>”...But we *should* wait until we’re back, Elena. I want to do things right, you shouldn’t have to live in the shadows.” You still intend to marry her in a full ceremony, no sneaking around, no repeats, your whole family present. Presenting her publicly might still be a step too far, but she isn’t some mistress to be kept hidden.
3)
>”...But we *should* wait until we’re back, Elena. I want to do things right, you shouldn’t have to live in the shadows.” You still intend to marry her in a full ceremony, no sneaking around, no repeats, your whole family present. Presenting her publicly might still be a step too far, but she isn’t some mistress to be kept hidden.
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>>5998765
>>5998856
I'll change to just
>”...Why not now? Right now, this minute. I’m sure we can find someone to officiate it.” The Earth Sphere is only getting more dangerous every day, why wait at all? You both love each other, and the spontaneity of it excites you. You can do a bigger ceremony another time for family and the memories.
For the sake of simplicity.
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>>5998774
Wait.

>>5998775
>>5998792
>>5998808 (wait)
>>5998829
>>5998846 (wait)
>>5998861
Now.

>>5998778
>>5998786
>>5998794
>>5998798
>>5998828
>>5998830 (wait)
There.

Got a tie between doing it right now or at Green Noa. I'll give it two more hours for tie breaker vote, I'd like to get onto the next post tonight if possible.
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>>5998765
>”Then we’ll be married there.” Side Seven’s one and only colony is quite beautiful - not spectacularly so, but there’s a charm to it that surpasses much of even Zeon, and you have good memories there together already. It's a fine place for it, something to look forward to besides the excitement of spy work.

A wedding there is excellent cover.
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>>5998808
1)
>”...But we *should* wait until we’re back, Elena. I want to do things right, you shouldn’t have to live in the shadows.” You still intend to marry her in a full ceremony, no sneaking around, no repeats, your whole family present. Presenting her publicly might still be a step too far, but she isn’t some mistress to be kept hidden.
2)
>”...Why not now? Right now, this minute. I’m sure we can find someone to officiate it.” The Earth Sphere is only getting more dangerous every day, why wait at all? You both love each other, and the spontaneity of it excites you. You can do a bigger ceremony another time for family and the memories.
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>>5998876
Wouldn't it bring unnecessary attention?
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>>5998765
>>5998765
1)
>”...But we *should* wait until we’re back, Elena. I want to do things right, you shouldn’t have to live in the shadows.” You still intend to marry her in a full ceremony, no sneaking around, no repeats, your whole family present. Presenting her publicly might still be a step too far, but she isn’t some mistress to be kept hidden.
2)
>”...Why not now? Right now, this minute. I’m sure we can find someone to officiate it.” The Earth Sphere is only getting more dangerous every day, why wait at all? You both love each other, and the spontaneity of it excites you. You can do a bigger ceremony another time for family and the memories.
3)
>”...Why not now? Right now, this minute. I’m sure we can find someone to officiate it.” The Earth Sphere is only getting more dangerous every day, why wait at all? You both love each other, and the spontaneity of it excites you. You can do a bigger ceremony another time for family and the memories.
>”...But we *should* wait until we’re back, Elena. I want to do things right, you shouldn’t have to live in the shadows.” You still intend to marry her in a full ceremony, no sneaking around, no repeats, your whole family present. Presenting her publicly might still be a step too far, but she isn’t some mistress to be kept hidden.
What the hell, I'll vote just to break the tie.
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>>5998892
As opposed to doing a public wedding in Zeon when we just told Gihren we'd marry Viv?
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>>5998894
This is a good point
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>>5998892
Sure theres attention. But Elena has been there before and some of the kids there would recognise her. Any new arrival to the site of a secret research facility would attract attention but thanks to our previous visit and reason, we have an alibi and would be more likely to be overlooked.
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>>5998774
>>5998830 (2nd)
Wait.

>>5998775
>>5998792
>>5998808 (wait)
>>5998829
>>5998846 (wait)
>>5998861
>>5998880 (2nd)
>>5998893 (2nd)
Now. Wins, writing.

>>5998778
>>5998786
>>5998794
>>5998798
>>5998828
>>5998876
There.
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“...Why not now? Right now, this minute.” You see what Elena is intending, but decide to go a step further - the whole Earth Sphere is spiraling toward war, more chaos every day, so why wait? “I’m sure we can find someone to officiate it. You have your dress here, don’t you?”

“I do - this morning though, really? Right now?” Elena’s emerald eyes widen, the spontaneity of it catching her off guard even after her proposal to get hitched quickly on Green Noa, “I… Yes! Yes, let’s do it now. You’re right, why wait at all after years? I love you, Felix.”

“I love you too.” You step closer and lean in, kissing quickly, a sweet prelude of what is to come,
“Go get ready, I’ll get these two to Mink and then get my tux on.”

A little while later…

The last few minutes have been a blur of activity. After dropping your twins off with Mink, who was just in the other room at your home, you quickly threw on your tuxedo and have been running all over Zeonic’s factory trying to find a good spot for this impromptu wedding. Very few people will be attending; your guards, Mink, Vivima and Tryphosa, a few of the engineers working with Elena on Project K, and Gil. Still running around looking for an ideal spot, something romantic in this barren industrial factoryscape, you round a corner and bump right into…

Ramba?

You blink a few times and take a step back, it wasn’t a hard collision but you didn’t expect to see him here - or Hamon, accompanying him as she so often does. Ramba’s eyes widen in surprise and he immediately pulls you into a tight hug, and Hamon smiles and gives her own a moment later. It’s been awhile since you’ve seen either of them.

“What are you running around in a tuxedo for, boy?” Ramba asks with a chuckle, patting your shoulder firmly. He’s in a normal suit, probably here for testing some prototype, and Hamon is in her usual blue and red, “It’s a bit early in the morning to be dressed up, isn’t it Felix?”

“I’m marrying Elena!” You blurt out without hesitation, grinning wine, “We’re going to do it this morning, not in a few months like we were planning.”

This morning?” Hamon gasps, “Is your family here too?”

“...No, mother’s on Zum, and Casval and Artesia are back on Guardian still. We’re still going to do a bigger ceremony with everyone in a few months.” You speak quickly, trying to get what’s happening across but still in a rush, “You should come, I’d love to have you for this one too. ...I still need to find a good spot.”

“Of course we’re going! Something to be said for acting in the moment, but you didn’t plan this at all, did you?” Ramba replies, resting his chin in one hand as he looks you over, “You look sharp.”
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>>5999158

“Elena is at your home?” Hamon guesses correctly, and you nod in the affirmative, “I’ll go help her get ready, she'll need it. Must be quite excited if she’s agreed to this... It is romantic though, don’t you think so, Ramba?”

He nods, and you can’t help but think of the fact that they still aren’t married. It’s a strange situation between them, one that has existed for years - there’s no one else for either of them, why the hold up? You aren’t going to ask those questions now though, you’ve seen them go through that whole dance before back on Luna years ago.

“Let’s find a spot then.” Ramba says to you as Hamon jogs off toward your home, hurrying on her way to help Elena rush through preparations that should rightfully take hours not minutes.

Where?
>...Take the very early prototype for Project K out. You can stand together in its open hand, one of the factory’s lakes for testing aquatic mobile suits will be the backdrop. There’s even a forested firing range much further beyond, it's quite idyllic if you don't look too closely for craters.
>Not on the colony at all. You’re going to take a Musai out briefly and use its observation deck as the venue. What better view than the entirety of space itself?

Who is officiating it?
>Ramba! He’s of a high enough rank, it’s allowed for by law.
>Gil. He runs this colony, he’s a civil authority as well as a corporate one.
>...Vivima. She’s a Zabi, they run Zeon - it checks out.
>...Apparently Mink is a licensed notary now, good for her! She can do it too.
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>>5999159
Where?
>...Take the very early prototype for Project K out. You can stand together in its open hand, one of the factory’s lakes for testing aquatic mobile suits will be the backdrop. There’s even a forested firing range much further beyond, it's quite idyllic if you don't look too closely for craters.

Who is officiating it?
>Ramba! He’s of a high enough rank, it’s allowed for by law.
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>>5999159
>Not on the colony at all. You’re going to take a Musai out briefly and use its observation deck as the venue. What better view than the entirety of space itself?
>Ramba! He’s of a high enough rank, it’s allowed for by law.
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>>5999159
>Not on the colony at all. You’re going to take a Musai out briefly and use its observation deck as the venue. What better view than the entirety of space itself?

>Ramba! He’s of a high enough rank, it’s allowed for by law.

Damn people really did just get Her killed by Gihren and Viv. Kinda defeats the purpose of saying we would marry her.
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>>5999159
>...Take the very early prototype for Project K out. You can stand together in its open hand, one of the factory’s lakes for testing aquatic mobile suits will be the backdrop. There’s even a forested firing range much further beyond, it's quite idyllic if you don't look too closely for craters.
Mobile Suit wedding.
>Ramba! He’s of a high enough rank, it’s allowed for by law.
Based Ramba jumpscare.
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>>5999159
>...Take the very early prototype for Project K out. You can stand together in its open hand, one of the factory’s lakes for testing aquatic mobile suits will be the backdrop. There’s even a forested firing range much further beyond, it's quite idyllic if you don't look too closely for craters.
I'm sure there aren't all kinds of feddie spys looking to get eyes on this, what could possibly go wrong?
>Ramba! He’s of a high enough rank, it’s allowed for by law.
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>>5999159
>...Take the very early prototype for Project K out. You can stand together in its open hand, one of the factory’s lakes for testing aquatic mobile suits will be the backdrop. There’s even a forested firing range much further beyond, it's quite idyllic if you don't look too closely for craters.
>Ramba! He’s of a high enough rank, it’s allowed for by law.
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>>5999159
>Not on the colony at all. You’re going to take a Musai out briefly and use its observation deck as the venue. What better view than the entirety of space itself?
>Ramba! He’s of a high enough rank, it’s allowed for by law.
>>5999271
Speed running Gundam's trademark suffering.
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>>5999162
>>5999275
>>5999304
>>5999431
Prototype. Wins, writing.

>>5999188
>>5999271
>>5999510
Ship.

Everyone wanted Ramba expected that so no need to tally.
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>>5999271
Yeah don’t really understand why people couldn’t wait for us to get to side seven
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08:05, 12th December UC 0077
Zeonic Corporation New Factory A, Side Three (Republic of Zeon)


The most beautiful woman in the Earth Sphere stands before you, clad in lovely white, emerald eyes sparkling with youthful love - Elena, your bride. This has been a very long time coming, harsh years apart connected only by letters and photographs, and even years after reconnecting you have still so often been kept apart by the responsibilities of life. The need to see vengeance done upon the Zabis, the need to see your father’s vision of newtypes made manifest, the need to safeguard the children you have together brought into the world. Elena too has worked tirelessly to preserve the possibility of a better future for your family - every day she has been at work at Zeonic, toiling away to bring the dream of Project K to life, and at home she has still been a dutiful mother to your two children. What more could you hope for?

Standing atop the open grey hand of the 'Kämpfer', the lake and forests far behind you, Ramba reaches the end of his short and hastily rememorized script. The ‘’I do’s” have already been exchanged, there was never a doubt in your mind as to how this would go. The few people assembled hastily this morning watch on, most from down below the mobile suit but Vivima from within it’s opened cockpit - she’s the one who lifted you both up in its hand. Ramba would have done it, but he’s up here with you too and the remote voice controls on the K are still a bit buggy.

“By the authority vested in me by the Republic of Zeon,” Ramba announces at last, “I now pronounce you husband and wife. You may kiss the bride!”

You lean in toward Elena Deikun-Zabi, pulling her close with one hand, and kiss your wife for the first time. In that moment you are happy, content in every way.

For some reason Izumi’s words come to you as you pull away, the weight of the world and consequences that might follow this hasty wedding coming suddenly into sharp focus.

Whatever you have done, no matter how mighty your enemy may be or how they might strive to undo it, it will still have been done.
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>>5999832

Later.

As the very brief celebrations wind down, including a short dance, the wedding quickly draws to a close - this never could have been a proper drawn out affair, not thrown together so hastily, but you can rest easy knowing that you are together now and forever. No matter what chaos might engulf your lives or the wider Earth Sphere, you have one another. That’s something that couldn’t wait even a day longer in these times, not with the potential of war breaking out at any moment; certainly not with Gihren placing Elena in his sights. That would normally worry you far more, but Vivima has only expressed support - so long as you have more of the Zabis sympathetic to your cause, Dozle, Vivima, Garma, you can hold Gihren’s fanatics at bay. He is the most powerful of them, but not all controlling. Kycilia you will never trust, but she has claimed to want to help you - you don’t understand it, it must aid her somehow. Maybe she is attempting to drive a wedge between her brother and sister? Maybe not. Musings for another time, as currently you are…

>Already off on your way to Luna II. Politics and espionage call, there will be time for honeymooning on Green Noa between your adventurous spy work there. You will need to pick who else will meet you at Side Seven, as well as who is actually going to Luna II with you besides Vivima and Tryphosa.
>Trying to convince Ramba and Hamon to finally get hitched, love is in the air. “The world’s going to only get more dangerous in the days to come, why wait?”
>With your wife, both of you are speaking with Vivima about dangers to your family by her eldest brother, and your now very complicated future plans - no need to ponder it when you can address it directly. This is taking place on the ship heading to Luna II.

Still haven’t agreed to anything with Vivima, despite what was said to Gihren. Max and Luna are being taken care of by your mother, Mink is seeing to that and being her usual incredibly useful self.
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>>5999836
1)
>With your wife, both of you are speaking with Vivima about dangers to your family by her eldest brother, and your now very complicated future plans - no need to ponder it when you can address it directly. This is taking place on the ship heading to Luna II.
2)
>Trying to convince Ramba and Hamon to finally get hitched, love is in the air. “The world’s going to only get more dangerous in the days to come, why wait?”
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>>5999836
To be clear, when the post talks about your 'cause', it only means what it appears like you are trying to do: Protecting your kids and relationship with Elena, mobile suit training stuff, spy work, and especially things done in cooperation with Vivima. They of course have no idea you intend to destroy half of the Zabi family.
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>>5999836
1)
>Trying to convince Ramba and Hamon to finally get hitched, love is in the air. “The world’s going to only get more dangerous in the days to come, why wait?”
2)
>Already off on your way to Luna II. Politics and espionage call, there will be time for honeymooning on Green Noa between your adventurous spy work there. You will need to pick who else will meet you at Side Seven, as well as who is actually going to Luna II with you besides Vivima and Tryphosa.
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>>5999836
1)
>Already off on your way to Luna II. Politics and espionage call, there will be time for honeymooning on Green Noa between your adventurous spy work there. You will need to pick who else will meet you at Side Seven, as well as who is actually going to Luna II with you besides Vivima and Tryphosa.
2)
>Trying to convince Ramba and Hamon to finally get hitched, love is in the air. “The world’s going to only get more dangerous in the days to come, why wait?”
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>>5999836
>With your wife, both of you are speaking with Vivima about dangers to your family by her eldest brother, and your now very complicated future plans - no need to ponder it when you can address it directly. This is taking place on the ship heading to Luna II.

>Trying to convince Ramba and Hamon to finally get hitched, love is in the air. “The world’s going to only get more dangerous in the days to come, why wait?”
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>>5999836
>With your wife, both of you are speaking with Vivima about dangers to your family by her eldest brother, and your now very complicated future plans - no need to ponder it when you can address it directly. This is taking place on the ship heading to Luna II
I won't lie Cont, I read that as "lustful" and not "useful" and was Concerned about just what Mink was up to.
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>>5999871
>lusty Mink
Kek. Don't go getting any ideas, anon, Felix is a married man now.
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>>5999836
>With your wife, both of you are speaking with Vivima about dangers to your family by her eldest brother, and your now very complicated future plans - no need to ponder it when you can address it directly. This is taking place on the ship heading to Luna II.
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>>5999836
1)
>Already off on your way to Luna II. Politics and espionage call, there will be time for honeymooning on Green Noa between your adventurous spy work there. You will need to pick who else will meet you at Side Seven, as well as who is actually going to Luna II with you besides Vivima and Tryphosa.
2)
>Trying to convince Ramba and Hamon to finally get hitched, love is in the air. “The world’s going to only get more dangerous in the days to come, why wait?”
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>>5999836
1)
>Already off on your way to Luna II. Politics and espionage call, there will be time for honeymooning on Green Noa between your adventurous spy work there. You will need to pick who else will meet you at Side Seven, as well as who is actually going to Luna II with you besides Vivima and Tryphosa.
2)
>Trying to convince Ramba and Hamon to finally get hitched, love is in the air. “The world’s going to only get more dangerous in the days to come, why wait?”
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>>5999874
>>5999871
Musk is in it for the long game, She didn't want Felix. She wanted the heirs.
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>>5999836
1)
>Already off on your way to Luna II. Politics and espionage call, there will be time for honeymooning on Green Noa between your adventurous spy work there. You will need to pick who else will meet you at Side Seven, as well as who is actually going to Luna II with you besides Vivima and Tryphosa.
>Trying to convince Ramba and Hamon to finally get hitched, love is in the air. “The world’s going to only get more dangerous in the days to come, why wait?”
2)
>Already off on your way to Luna II. Politics and espionage call, there will be time for honeymooning on Green Noa between your adventurous spy work there. You will need to pick who else will meet you at Side Seven, as well as who is actually going to Luna II with you besides Vivima and Tryphosa.
3)
>Trying to convince Ramba and Hamon to finally get hitched, love is in the air. “The world’s going to only get more dangerous in the days to come, why wait?”
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>>5999923
It's why she's been throwing away all of Felix's fangirl mail.
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>>5999836
>>5999924
+1
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>>5999870
>>5999871
>>5999878
Future talk.

>>5999866
>>5999901
>>5999911
>>5999924 (2nd)
>>5999924 (2nd)
>>5999846 (2nd)
>>5999841 (2nd)
Luna II. Wins, but there is something to be handled before I can write.

Who will you and Viv be bringing with you besides Tryphosa and Izumi?
>No one else beyond the crew of your ship.
>(Write-in).

And who else will be joining you at Green Noa? There's a bit more time for that, so options are more open - including Mink (too busy for Luna II) or friends from the academy (but it will cause them some further issues at the academy).
>No one else besides Elena and the others from Luna II!
>Tiff, Rix, Blare, Mink, etc, etc. (Write-in)

Elena will be traveling to Green Noa on a separate ship with Cucuruz and Jones on guard duty, you can also send Challia with her if you'd like or have him accompany you to Luna II - or mix it up, just a suggested ordering not a binding one. You will be rendezvousing with a different ship after leaving Luna II to obfuscate your trail so you aren't just tracked right into Side Seven by the Federation. Amusingly Izumi has ended up as a mobile suit pilot now despite getting booted from the academy, being a guard has its benefits.
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Wait, shit, I think I tallied wrong. Give me a minute.
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>>5999841
>>5999870
>>5999871
>>5999878
Future

>>5999866
>>5999901
>>5999911
>>5999924 (2nd)
>>5999933 (2nd)
>>5999846 (2nd)
Luna II

Okay, this is the correct tally, still the same result with Luna II. Not sure how I screwed up and put >>5999841 in the wrong group for the last one.

>>5999968
Please link to this post for your votes.
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>>5999874
NOOOOOOOO
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>>5999968
>No one else beyond the crew of your ship.
>Tiff, Rix, Blare
Izumi honor guard, hell yeah.
>>5999970
>Not sure how I screwed up
No worries
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>>5999968
Who will you and Viv be bringing with you besides Tryphosa and Izumi?
>No one else beyond the crew of your ship
And who else will be joining you at Green Noa? There's a bit more time for that, so options are more open - including Mink (too busy for Luna II) or friends from the academy (but it will cause them some further issues at the academy).
>No one else besides Elena and the others from Luna II!
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>>6000067
>>5999970
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>>5999968
>>5999970
Who will you and Viv be bringing with you besides Tryphosa and Izumi?
>Challia

And who else will be joining you at Green Noa? There's a bit more time for that, so options are more open - including Mink (too busy for Luna II) or friends from the academy (but it will cause them some further issues at the academy).
>Mink and Jett, maybe Challia
If there's a tie for too long I'll vote to invite Tiff, Rix, and Blare. I don't want to mess up their academy stuff too badly, but a little vacation should be fine.
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I'll give voting another three hours.
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>>5999968
>>5999970
Who will you and Viv be bringing with you besides Tryphosa and Izumi?
>No one else beyond the crew of your ship.

And who else will be joining you at Green Noa? There's a bit more time for that, so options are more open - including Mink (too busy for Luna II) or friends from the academy (but it will cause them some further issues at the academy).
>No one else besides Elena and the others from Luna II!

Let's not cause our academy friends anymore problems for now.
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>>5999968
>>5999970
Who will you and Viv be bringing with you besides Tryphosa and Izumi?
>No one else beyond the crew of your ship.
And who else will be joining you at Green Noa?
>Casval, Artesia, Rix, Tiff, Blare, Mink, Jet
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Luna II additional companions vote:
>>6000012
>>6000067
>>6000456
>>6000573
No one else. Wins.

>>6000096
Challia. He's a bodyguard pilot so presumably he's just staying on the ship from this result.

Green Noa additional companions vote: STILL OPEN
>>6000012
Tiff, Rix, Blare.

>>6000096 (Tiff, Rix, Blare)
Mink and Jet, maybe Challia.

>>6000573
Tiff, Rix, Blare, Mink, Jet. (Casval and Artesia can't go)

>>6000067
>>6000456
No one else.

I'll leave voting for Green Noa open for another two hours, and if there's still not a clear winner then I'm going to roll off between whatever the most common shared picks are (currently Tiff, Rix, and Blare) and bringing no one else.
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>>6000617
I'm voting no one else but I can't find my old posts cause my phones ID constantly changes
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>>6000617
I'll vote to have Jet and Mink with us to Green Noa then. Don't remember who Chalia is.
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Rolled 2 (1d2)

>>6000012
>>6000096 (2nd)
Tiff, Rix, Blare.

>>6000573
Tiff, Rix, Blare, Mink, Jet. (Casval and Artesia can't go)

>>6000700
Mink and Jet.

>>6000067
>>6000456
>>6000634
No one else.

The common factor between write-ins is still Tiff, Rix, and Blare, showing up in three votes. No one else also has three votes. Going to roll off, No one else is 1, bringing others is 2.
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>>6000728
>2
Looks like there's going to be others then.

Apologies for the weird vote, an open ended write-in vs. a single clear choice is bound to be messy and doesn't really work with out usual voting rules. I'm not even sure what to do with >>6000096 since there was a four way tie between the slightly different "bring other people" votes but it also included Mink and Jet with its first version. So Mink in Jet were kind of also common between as many write-ins. Never going to format a vote like this again probably, what a mess.
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>>>6000728 (You)
with our usual voting rules*
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>>6000738
Mink AND Jet*
Freudian typo?
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Honestly, with something like this, just do whatever you want, Cont. It's not like we really need to quibble over something like this too much, whatever you wanna write is good enough for us I think. Indulge in QM fiat.
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09:40, 14th December UC 0077
Luna II, L3 (Earth Federation)


As your ship approaches Luna II, slowly traversing the great dark of space, you stand within its bridge and look out at what is to come. A fortress is ahead of you, billions of tons of grey rock housing fleets and soldiers, missiles and guns, bunkers that can withstand nuclear blasts.

There is nothing that can be done.

Nothing that can be done to stop the coming war. It is inevitable. Your influence is too small, you can only shape events as they unfold, not prevent them - a future after the war is yours to craft, perhaps victory or defeat in the conflict itself, but not that a war will begin. That’s what you try to tell yourself on days like this, when the reality of the coming war faces you so clearly.

You faced down these same doubts just days ago before and during the rebellion, but at least then you were spurred to act for the sake of the citizens of Zeon and Riah. It was an aggressive move, but the Federation had to be checked. You don’t feel much guilt over an act of national self-defense, even if Gihren incited the rage that led to it. The deaths of the soldiers and handful of cadets was tragic, but that’s more blood at Gihren’s feet, not yours. More would have perished under Federation tank treads if you didn’t strike.

But this, this great grey fortress growing closer and closer on the view screen of your cruiser’s bridge, forces you to consider what a true attack against the Federation will be like. What would it feel like to approach such a fortress at the head of a fleet, intent to kill the men and women manning it, to take the facilities for a ‘supreme leader’ you despise in a war you dread to see unfold. An assault on a large asteroid base such as this would require more than a hundred ships, likely several hundred, or a withering barrage of nuclear weapons to transform the fortified rock into radioactive slag. Could you really do that? If you can - perhaps because it is a military target - could you also justify that against a base near a town? A city? A colony? It’s sickening. Part of you has been slipping away, you realize, and you want it back.
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>>6001026

Hundreds of millions will die, or more likely billions, but either way it is unthinkable horror - unimaginable, dwarfing every war in human history, possibly all of them combined. You often tell yourself that a civil war in Zeon would be nearly as bloody, still likely to spiral into a full nuclear exchange and large fleet actions - or that the Federation will one day act on its own if the Sides continue to grow closer to asserting full independence… but what if that is wrong? What if it isn’t truly inevitable? If you’re aiding something which can be prevented, even if it requires the sacrifice of your whole family, all of the ‘good’ Zabis, and every friend you have ever made - doesn’t that make you nearly as despicable as any of the Zabis? Or is that too much for any person to be asked?

“There is no other path, I fear.” Tryphosa’s hand finds its way into yours, your bond seeming to appear at your side within the bridge - turning away from the viewscreen and armored windows, you look to her. Piercing blue eyes peer into and through you, gazing upon your soul itself, if such a thing can be said to exist. She is wearing her red jovian robes once more, no longer playing at being a soldier at all - neither of you are for now. “...It is a daunting task, but someone must see to it.”

“These talks will likely be an attempt to intimidate us, there’s nothing to be afraid of.” Vivima says from a few paces away, not quite clued into what Tryphosa was speaking on. Viv is clad in her full regalia, red and gold and purple mixing to create quite the striking royal look - even the pointed gold pauldrons work to add to the effect, “Even this rock they hide in is nothing compared to Solomon or Axis, those are truly unassailable. Luna II is so poorly positioned for a war I don’t think we even have assault plans drawn up yet, none in detail. They did us a favor putting it here, the fools.”

She’s right, the L3 point is about as far away from where the war is likely to be focused that it is almost a boon the Federation have concentrated so much of their strength here. It’s a terrible position for them to hold, days from the rest of the Earth Sphere besides Earth itself, and the single colony of Side Seven.
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>>6001028

“You should turn your mind toward peace, Vivima.” You speak calmly, Tryphosa’s touch settling some of your angst for the time being. She understands, and that is enough. She is helping Vivima to be better, she has made incredible strides, but then Viv goes and acts like this still. Still a Zabi - even her reasoning behind beginning to oppose her brother is corrupt in so many ways, and thoughts of the proposed marriage continue to hound you - not even your bond can settle that. “Revil is a good man, as I’ve said. He wants peace, so he prepares for war - he’s not so different from us. I doubt he’s bringing us here as some petty scare tactic. It wouldn’t achieve anything, he’s no fool.”

“So you’ve said. A latent. He was not born on the Earth, I believe, so it is… possible. Tragic, really, we’ll have to fight one of our own. It would be better if he were on our side, but it’s far too late for that - there’s no use for traitors, and he would never be a turncoat.” Vivima sighs, the mention of traitors seeming to stir a new thought in her mind, an evil little grin spreading across her face, “...I hope this recorder we’re to collect proves useful. What do you think it might contain?”

Normally you would not dare to discuss such a topic so openly, but the bridge crew of the cruiser were heavily vetted and handpicked for loyalty to Zeon, and so you continue to speak openly, “...Possibly information on these new ship variants we’ve been seeing, that Salamis a few days ago had an expanded hangar. It’s impossible to know. Beam weapon research, maybe? There’s no point in speculating.”

“Perhaps not, but it’s fun.” Vivima shrugs, “I believe the beam weapon research at Side Seven was scheduled to stop some time ago, isn’t that right?”

“Plans can change - it’s been long enough it could have even been moved back.” You reply, genuinely unsure - there’s no reason to project a false confidence when you’ll be snooping around personally to find out this very information in a few days time, “I haven’t been keeping up with our latest research either, beyond that it is still troubled. Only fit for mobile armors.”

“They are a continued source of vexation.” Tryphosa speaks for Vivima despite being far more peacefully minded. The Zabi woman resigns herself to merely nodding and remaining silent, her grin replaced by a small frown. Mobile suit research and production, weapons development, and piloting - they’re an obsession that consumes much of Viv’s time. The piloting you understand fully, you both share a true love of space, and you’ve partaken in your share of guiding MS production alongside her, but the fact remains that she’s more involved in it than you.
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>>6001029

One of the doors to the bridge slides open, Izumi and a pair of armed sailors stepping out from it - the soldiers are in their usual green, submachine guns slung behind their arms, and Izumi is dressed similarly but without any marking of rank or military affiliation beyond that of Zeon itself. She wears a small handgun holstered at her hip, and a short curved sword; the sword would be next to useless in a real fight, but you have no objections to its presence - it’s a reminder of her past, a good symbol.

“Lord Felix, Lady Vivima,” Izumi speaks respectfully, though her use of those noble sounding titles still unsettles you slightly. Father wouldn’t approve, even if they are merely respecting your status. Maybe you’ve become too comfortable with this as well. Life among the Zabis is a slow poison. “The hangar crew have prepared the shuttle, it is ready to depart at your convenience.”

Later.

As the shuttle comes to a halt within one of the great cavernous metal hangers of Luna II, you feel the entire hull of the vessel shake and shudder as docking clamps grab a hold of it tightly. The captured asteroid spins to produce a very light gravity, enough for an odd kind of walk, but it is still light enough to allow for near microgravity movement - magboots are required for anything like a normal walk, but you’ve come prepared. Tryphosa has forgone such devices, more a spacenoid than any of the rest of your small party, her graceful jovian gait suited perfectly for environments like this, perfectly at home.

As the doors of the shuttle hiss open, you are immediately faced with a dozen Federation soldiers standing at attention, and a cadre of officers waiting just beyond them. Revil is at their head, the only one of any true concern to you. You walk besides Vivima, moving together down the wide ramp, Tryphosa and Izumi following behind you.

“Felix Zos Deikun, Vivima Zabi - Welcome to Luna II.” Revil speaks first and boldly, his gaze steady as he looks over your small group, probably far smaller than he expected. His use of your separate family names does not escape your notice. “I hope your journey across the Earth Sphere was not taxing on such short notice, it’s a hard burn here from Zeon at the pace you made.”

…And you’re rebels who just risked sparking a major war. But he leaves that part unspoken, you all understand the ‘issues’ surrounding this visit.

>“Space is our home, General, travel is never an issue… But I must say the invitation came as a surprise.”
>”We’ll go any distance for our people, or a chance at peace - I assume that’s why you’ve asked us here.”
>Allow Vivima to lead for the moment, you’ll be past these pleasantries soon enough.
>Write-in.
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>>6001030
>“Space is our home, General, travel is never an issue… But I must say the invitation came as a surprise.”
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>>6001030
>“Space is our home, General, travel is never an issue… But I must say the invitation came as a surprise.”
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>>6001030
>“Space is our home, General, travel is never an issue… But I must say the invitation came as a surprise.”
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>>6001030
>“Space is our home, General, travel is never an issue… But I must say the invitation came as a surprise.”
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>>6001030
>”We’ll go any distance for our people, or a chance at peace - I assume that’s why you’ve asked us here.”
Start strong

Captcha: WHYY8
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>>6001030
>“Space is our home, General, travel is never an issue… But I must say the invitation came as a surprise.”
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>>6001040
>>6001045
>>6001055
>>6001158
>>6001303
Space is our home. Wins, writing

>>6001215
Chance at peace.
>WHYY8
I guess the captcha agrees with the rushed marriage.
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“Space is our home, General, travel is never an issue.” You reply calmly. The hard burn to Luna II is neither the first nor the last time you will have to travel with haste. A few of the Federation officers with Revil wrinkle their noses, likely sniffing out some kind of an insult toward Earthnoids, though you meant nothing of the sort - if they wish to be upset, then so be it. Some people find slights in anything. “But I must say the invitation came as a surprise.”

“But our reception here did not,” Vivima shifts her gaze slowly across the soldiers and officers standing along the catwalks of the cavernous hangar, “Felix has spoken highly of you, General Revil. I see it was well founded.”

“I’d hate to make a liar of a good man, especially in times such as these - a person’s word should hold value. I’ve asked for you both to be here because of the message you broadcast…” Revil replies, now close enough to shake your hand - he has a firm grip, but does not take overly long with the greeting before moving onto Vivima. Something behind the two of you catches his eye though, something remarkable enough to cause him to speak up even with so many of his men all about, “You, Miss, what is your name?”

“Tryphosa.” When your bond speaks, her name is heavy with meaning - she expects something.

“Jedar?” Revil asks, the name sending a chill through you and your bond as he speaks it - what does he know? That same pressure you felt so long ago at the embassy, and around others with potential, still clings close to Revil - he is no newtype, but that he has, or at least at one time had, the potential to be one is undeniable. Tryphosa gives a very small nod, and that satisfies Revil for now.
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>>6001615

Later, after introductions are completed.

The journey deeper into Luna II has not taken long, even if the introduction of Revil’s cadre of officers felt like it did - Elran, the unremarkable looking general you’re meant to retrieve the recorder from was there with them, as was one of his aides, and a few others of high rank besides. The names and faces of the others matter little, and your attention has been split between Revil and the fortress itself, with just enough left for keeping an eye on Federation soldiers in case someone decides to be very young and very stupid. Assassination attempts are a real risk, though you’re sure Revil has done what he can to keep the chance very low.

Luna II’s reinforced interior is impressive, far more so than you had expected - several great ship bays are passed by on your way deeper into the asteroid, at least two dozen Salamis undergoing resupply, refitting, or repair, and a even a pair of battleships. There are empty moorings for far more, and hundreds of fighters besides, though most of those are kept tucked away deeper in secondary hangars and launch tubes. You know there are at least four more areas like this on the base, likely holding as many or more ships. Something far more alarming catches your eye though, very far away across a busy hangar, tucked off in a cubby along with four other similar machines.

A Mobile Suit.

A hideous, riveted, crude grey monstrosity of one, with a cannon strapped across its shoulder for some reason, and hands that look to be clumsy and yet still flimsy grabber claws rather than dextrous or armored, but it is undeniably a mobile suit. …Or a close imitation, considering its flaws. In a lot of ways it looks as if someone modified the top half of an old guntank to have legs, and then stripped most of its firepower away. Vivima’s eyesight isn’t as sharp as yours, but you tap her lightly to get her attention and nod slightly toward the distant machines, which is all she needs to notice as well. Even more eyebrow raisingly at least two dozen pods look to have been converted to mount heavy weapons, simple recoilless rifles and rocket pods mostly, and are being kept alongside the primitive mobile suits.

>”...Those maintenance pods are armed. I almost feel sorry for whoever gets sent out in one of those.” Speak quietly with Vivima.
>”General, those are interesting machines you have over there - New production?”
>Keep your silence, it is unlikely Revil or any of the officers here will let a word slip about anything happening here, things can be discussed another time.
>Write-in.
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>>6001616
>”General, those are interesting machines you have over there - New production?”
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>>6001616
>”General, those are interesting machines you have over there - New production?”
I'd very much like to know how far along their MS program is.
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>>6001616
>”General, those are interesting machines you have over there - New production?”
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>>6001616
>>”General, those are interesting machines you have over there - New production?”
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>>6001616
>”General, those are interesting machines you have over there - New production?”
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>>6001616
>”General, those are interesting machines you have over there - New production?”
Exposé, exposition, why not both?
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>>6001617
>>6001618
>>6001625
>>6001628
>>6001632
>>6001661
Writing.
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Underestimate the Ball at your own peril, Felix. Frankly, I weigh them as a far more dangerous opponent than Origin's Early Guncannons, in either it or the anime canon.
In the hands of someone skilled enough not to panic at first sight of a Zaku, and who knows how to get the most out of them, those little pods are frighteningly agile, and all it takes is one shot from those 180mm cannons to tear a Zaku in two.
They might not be much, but this early on in the UC timeline, they're more dangerous than people give them credit for.
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>>6001796
The Ball Mobile Worker Pod is the TRUE hero of the OYW and WILL embarass the 18 meter meme!
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>>6001796
And more importantly, fear the machine gun ball with transparisteel rated for zaku machine gun fire.
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>>6001821
My hot take: a lot of the battles in 08th MS Team are just bad.
From Shiro's invincible orange Ball somehow surviving what should have turned it into swiss cheese, to everybody's favorite fight with the team jobbing completely against Norris.
And don't get me started on Shiro's ridiculous pacifism arc...
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>>6001832
Shiro firing all of his guns at Norris and missing all of his shots while Norris was standing perfectly still was baffling. Truly the moment of all time in any OYW side story.
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>>6001832
I actually agree, but I still like it quite a lot overall. Definitely a big pile of flaws when it comes to the combat direction though.
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>>6001832
Is not a hot take if its correct. 8th ms battles suffer from hollywood disease where likely outcomes and tactics are discarded for a more cinematic look.

The best bit was norris sacrificing himself to take out that last guntank but even that was unnecessary when abit more manuveuring would have let him have a clear shot at it.
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“General, those are interesting machines you have over there,” You halt for a moment and point more directly toward the distant grey mobile suits and the weapon festooned balls docked nearby them, “New production?”

“Military hardware is not up for discussion, Zeek.” One of the other officers begins to growl out, but the slightest look from Revil kills the rest of the man’s words before they can form. You resist the urge to grin, not wishing to further antagonize the other officers present - you’ve done more than enough antagonizing of Feddies for the week.

“Colonel, they are acting as diplomats today.” Revil’s reprimand is calm and clear, scarcely different from his normal tone, but there is no mistaking the weight of his words - Diplomats simply are not to be treated so rudely, even when they must be denied a request. Revil joins you by the side of the railing and looks down toward the grey mobile suits, “A few words will hardly give them the technical package for those machines.”

“I believe they’re slated for public reveal at the parade next week, sir.” Elran adds, keeping a distance from the railing - a murmur of agreement and other quieter comments pass through the cadre and even a few guards exchange looks.

“So they are.” Revil nods, stroking at his well groomed grey beard with a white gloved hand, “Zeon has been developing similar weapons - how would you rate those on first look?”

Vivima, lured in by the siren call of mobile suit discussion, cannot help but respond first and somewhat dismissively, “Looks can be quite deceiving. Without a closer inspection it is too difficult to judge. You can’t truly tell the value of a machine without piloting it personally at least once.”

“What does your gut tell you?” Revil’s very direct question comes as no surprise - he’s chosen to engage on the subject when he easily could have stonewalled all questions, and won’t stand for his unusually qualified ‘guests’ to weasel out of answering.

“That I’d rather pilot a Saberfish than a ball with a cannon strapped to it, however maneuverable they must be - I doubt those pods have a functioning ejection system.” Vivima chooses to speak on the large armored balls which are lined up close to the mobile suits. From countless hours in the simulator pods together you know that she views Saberfish as little more than fodder for a well piloted mobile suit, far from harmless but not a real threat except in a swarm or in the hands of an expert - the Federation officers will likely think she believes them to be the more capable craft though. “Are the pods intended for conscripts?”
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>>6001978

“They’re a proof of concept, little more.” Revil doesn’t answer the conscript question, and you sense a degree of unease from the other officers assembled at Vivima’s question - perhaps it was closer to the mark than expected for a simple jab, “It was your self-defense forces that experimented with the idea originally. What of the other ones, the walkers?”

>”They look to be fine machines, sir. Very similar to our own.” What a lie - you’re fairly certain that even the old Waff prototypes with paper armor and sketch fuel pumps could manhandle these Federation toys.
>”To my eye they look clumsy, very poorly balanced.” The truth, but not as harshly as you’d speak about them if they were produced in Zeon - you’re not here to guide the Federation toward more effective designs, but they have to know of most of the issues already… right?.
>”I agree with Vivima, without a test flight we can only speculate - My gut tells you’re already working on something newer, if we’re seeing these.” You’d never be allowed to pilot the crude mobile suits, but you want to VERY badly even if they are flying coffins. The pods are interesting as well, though you're as skeptical of their survivability as Viv is.
>Write-in.
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>>6001979
>Write-in.
That they probably aren't going to bridge the gap in performance anytime soon, and without an experienced cadre of pilots to start with its going to get a lot of promising young officers or "Flight Lieutenants" killed, which will kneecap their options going forward.

They should focus on improving the chance that a pilot can survive a failed encounter above all else, since the pilots are the true investment into any such a program and everything else can be drawn from there especially if they are struggling for widespread adoption they will need a quantity of serviceable pilots, how else are they panning on finding out what does and does not work if they can't ask the pilots afterwards.
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>>6001979
>>Write-in.
"I can see their lineage in their looks. Developed based off knowhow and experience from the guntank design, I presume. The shoulder cannons , would make them stable firing plateforms with good range, certainly wouldn't want to be hit by one of those. It does seem a little confused, isnt there an overlap in weapons with the pods? Also I'm sure you already know this but 3 pronged manipulators are shit. Good for lifting heavy cargo and little else."
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>>6001979
>>6002047
+1

Showing that we're not just warmongers and do care about human life, even feddies. Doubt they'd listen too closely anyway.
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>>6002104
Forgot to put in my thoughts. Basically the design lineage will means we dont have to talk about its performance too much, and the stable gun plateform design is likely as intended. Our solution to the gun being big of course is not to get hit but we dont need to mention that. Some of this officers will bristle at the 'confused' comment and thats fine if they want to yell and get even more emotionally invested in their soon to fail program. Manipulators being shit are known and so its fair game.

Revil himself also isnt letting himself reveal too much details about the units so we should watch what we reveal about them from a cursory glance as well.
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>>6001979
>"If you are letting us see these even from a distance, that means you clearly have superior models already in the work and this is a common tactic we've read about in the past to show one's strength and commitment to the military approach. The guntank lineage is very clearly visible here and impressive none the less, but i cannot say more unless we had a chance to pilot such things. " a little of the road, let's feed into the EFF ego from the rest of the pilots that they are these big bad guys outclassed us AND also give revil a simple direct answer.
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>>6002104
This seems alright to me, not revealing too much. +1
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>>6001979
>”I agree with Vivima, without a test flight we can only speculate - My gut tells you’re already working on something newer, if we’re seeing these.” You’d never be allowed to pilot the crude mobile suits, but you want to VERY badly even if they are flying coffins. The pods are interesting as well, though you're as skeptical of their survivability as Viv is.
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>>6002104
Support
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>>6001979
>>6002047
Supporting.
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Voting is still open.

>>6002047
>>6002105
>>6002480
Write-in.

>>6002104
>>6002294
>>6002444
Other write-in.

>>6002198
Other other write-in.

>>6002410
These machines must be old news.

Got a tie, I'll give voting a couple more hours and maybe combine some of the write-ins if there isn't a winner by then.

Voting is still open.
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>>6001979
>”I agree with Vivima, without a test flight we can only speculate - My gut tells you’re already working on something newer, if we’re seeing these.” You’d never be allowed to pilot the crude mobile suits, but you want to VERY badly even if they are flying coffins. The pods are interesting as well, though you're as skeptical of their survivability as Viv is.
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>>6002047
>>6002105
>>6002480
>>6002104
>>6002294
>>6002444
Going to try combining these write-ins without having Felix give up too much. Writing.
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>>6002624
Solid copy boss, Checks out.
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“I can see their design lineage in their look, branched off from Guntank development. The shoulder cannons would make them a stable firing platform with good range, I certainly wouldn’t want to be struck by one of those.” You begin by praising the few positive aspects of these crude machines, though it requires quite a bit of reaching, and then move onto the less thrilling aspects of the design. The Federation officers and even Tryphosa join you along the railing, looking down. “Overall they seem confused in their design philosophy, there’s an overlap in weapons with the pods despite the machines having very different maneuverability profiles and roles.”

“Standardization of weaponry is often a boon,” Vivima throws in some faint praise of her own, brushing back a strand of dark purple hair with a gloved hand as she regards the rows of pods and handful of mobile suits with a sneer, “But it is muddled. They look like clumsy children’s toys, walking tanks.”

The same easily angered colonel form before speaks again, apparently unable to handle the criticism of what must be a pet project of his - certainly he must have some stake in it to be so defensive, “They are excellent machines, I’m sure they would crush one of your green cyclops in any engagement.”

“Would you like to test that theory?” Vivima asks, a thin predatory smile appearing across her face.

“Certainly.” The officer accepts at once, but you already know there will be no such face off between the two kinds of machines. Revil will surely have none of it. “My fighter pilots would make short work of any of the backwater shuttle jockeys your Side has scraped up for service.”

“Your confidence is severely misplaced, sir.” You join with Vivima, needing to show a united front but trying not to fan the flames of contention too greatly. Peace, not war, is what you hope you were invited here to discuss. “Guntanks were never fit for open combat, and I doubt their legged progeny are either. Just look at the hands for example, those pronged claspers are poorly suited for a serious battle, even light weapons fire or close explosions could warp them. In close combat they may as well not even exist. ”

“Close combat? Don’t be ridiculous, these are mobile platforms for the cannons they carry. Guncannons. Bringing a fist or… what, some kind of giant knife to a tank fight?” The officer scoffs, brow furrowing and face reddening, “That is the peak of absurdity. Their hands are suited perfectly to wield additional weapon systems, you may as well criticize a machine guns tripod for making a poor trident.”
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>>6002828

“Perhaps you’re right,” You have very good reason to believe he is not, simulator and real exercises proving time and time again that mobile suits are almost always able to close to shockingly close ranges shortly after battle is met, but you keep that to yourself, “But the issue of being easily damaged remains. An enemy cannot fight if you disable his hand. More concerning than that is the obvious lack of an ejection system on the armed pods, and those suits as well if their armor layout isn’t concealing it. Pilots are far more valuable than the machines themselves. Regardless of the outcome of a single engagement, if pilots and their experiences are not preserved and passed on to others then any force is doomed to only degrade over time. This is especially true with such a new and underdeveloped weapon system. Mistakes are likely to only be repeated if new pilots are fed in from more traditional flight combat training.”

“Any commander should understand that the lives of those under him are to be preserved when possible,” Revil agrees with you, taking this moment to reenter the heated discussion, his voice at once cooling the heated banter by a few degrees. If the rebellion had not happened just a few days ago this kind of conversation would hardly be notable, disagreements over doctrine and equipment are common, but the rebellion did happen. “You are not the first to voice such concerns.”

“Any war in this age will be short and sharp, a few weeks at most.” A different officer - a young Commander judging by his collar - tacks on as the dispute trails toward a conclusion. There’s something nervous in his eyes, a disquiet about him - he’s considering something, one hand lingering a little too close to his sidearm, but he makes no further move. Izumi relaxes as the man does, the subtle showdown likely missed by everyone else assembled here save Tryphosa. Certainly no one else shows that they noticed it.

“A common school of thought.” Vivima replies quietly now, her back turned to most of the officers as she fully takes in the sight of the distant Federation Mobile Suits, studying every detail of the primitive machines, “...I have my doubts. Of course with a mighty fleet such as the Federation’s, who could ever stand against it? Hm. We’re not here to discuss strategic planning or argue over doctrine, are we, General?”
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>>6002829

“We are not,” Revil confirms before stopping to speak a few words quietly in the ear of one of his aides - the younger dark haired man snaps into action at once, heading away down a different passage, “There have been more than enough talk of such things these last few days, and nothing good will come of more of it. This way, we are almost to the orrery.”

>”An orrery? Quite a place to choose for a meeting.” You’d prefer an observation platform on the asteroid base’s surface, but a recreation of the solar system is quite an agreeable setting as well. It is for the best that you get onto the real reason for this visit, there might be a better chance to receive the data recording covertly there - orreries are often kept quite dark.

>”...General, might we inspect these Guncannons more closely? I might have some insights to share, for the sake of their future pilots - consider it an exchange of good will.” It is unlikely that Revil will accept, and it will certainly anger these other officers further… but perhaps that is what Revil intends, this might be doubling as something of a test. Certainly he had no need for such a cadre for a private talk.

>Write-in.
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>>6002830
>>”An orrery? Quite a place to choose for a meeting.” You’d prefer an observation platform on the asteroid base’s surface, but a recreation of the solar system is quite an agreeable setting as well. It is for the best that you get onto the real reason for this visit, there might be a better chance to receive the data recording covertly there - orreries are often kept quite dark.
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>>6002830
“Mazela? We need to get to Mazela!”
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>>6002830
>”...General, might we inspect these Guncannons more closely? I might have some insights to share, for the sake of their future pilots - consider it an exchange of good will.” It is unlikely that Revil will accept, and it will certainly anger these other officers further… but perhaps that is what Revil intends, this might be doubling as something of a test. Certainly he had no need for such a cadre for a private talk.
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>>6002830
>”An orrery? Quite a place to choose for a meeting.” You’d prefer an observation platform on the asteroid base’s surface, but a recreation of the solar system is quite an agreeable setting as well. It is for the best that you get onto the real reason for this visit, there might be a better chance to receive the data recording covertly there - orreries are often kept quite dark.
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>>6002830
>”An orrery? Quite a place to choose for a meeting.” You’d prefer an observation platform on the asteroid base’s surface, but a recreation of the solar system is quite an agreeable setting as well. It is for the best that you get onto the real reason for this visit, there might be a better chance to receive the data recording covertly there - orreries are often kept quite dark.
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>”An orrery? Quite a place to choose for a meeting.” You’d prefer an observation platform on the asteroid base’s surface, but a recreation of the solar system is quite an agreeable setting as well. It is for the best that you get onto the real reason for this visit, there might be a better chance to receive the data recording covertly there - orreries are often kept quite dark.
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>>6002830
>”...General, might we inspect these Guncannons more closely? I might have some insights to share, for the sake of their future pilots - consider it an exchange of good will.” It is unlikely that Revil will accept, and it will certainly anger these other officers further… but perhaps that is what Revil intends, this might be doubling as something of a test. Certainly he had no need for such a cadre for a private talk.
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>>6002830
>”An orrery? Quite a place to choose for a meeting.” You’d prefer an observation platform on the asteroid base’s surface, but a recreation of the solar system is quite an agreeable setting as well. It is for the best that you get onto the real reason for this visit, there might be a better chance to receive the data recording covertly there - orreries are often kept quite dark.

No sense improving their officer quality.
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>>6002976
It's more about offering to help save lives, which builds on the sentiment of our broadcast... which is why we're even here in the first place. Just like in the vote, I don't think Revil will allow it, but the offer alone is the important part.
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>>6002830
>”...General, might we inspect these Guncannons more closely? I might have some insights to share, for the sake of their future pilots - consider it an exchange of good will.” It is unlikely that Revil will accept, and it will certainly anger these other officers further… but perhaps that is what Revil intends, this might be doubling as something of a test. Certainly he had no need for such a cadre for a private talk.
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>>6002830
>>”An orrery? Quite a place to choose for a meeting.” You’d prefer an observation platform on the asteroid base’s surface, but a recreation of the solar system is quite an agreeable setting as well. It is for the best that you get onto the real reason for this visit, there might be a better chance to receive the data recording covertly there - orreries are often kept quite dark.
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>>6002836
>>6002857
>>6002884
>>6002911
>>6002976
>>6003217
Get on with things. Wins, writing.

>>6003028
>>6002969
>>6002845
Show some good will.

>>6002983
Yeah, that was the idea behind that option. It might've let you see the inside of Federation MS as well, which could have been useful later - probably other opportunities for it though in the grand scheme of things.
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“An orrery?” You question, seeing perhaps a glimmer of what Revil’s intent is with the choice of such a location for your proper discussion, “Quite a place to choose for a meeting.”

“A fitting one.” Tryphosa comments quietly, that old familiar tension filling the air all about her - bonded as you are, you feel her presence expanding outward, feeling across the minds and spaces of the labyrinthian base, searching for something. For someone. “...It is where I would have chosen as well.”

“A very wide view of things is needed at times,” Revil replies, the group once again moving on and toward a nearby set of sliding doors - they hiss apart and allow you through, the walkway overlooking the mobile suit and ball hangar disappearing behind you. These new halls are more of the same metal as the ones from before, reinforced and very much like the internals of a Federation ship. If you didn’t know better, you could easily have been tricked into believing you were actually aboard a cruiser of some kind, “...This is one of those times, I believe.”

A little while later.

The dark of space and ten thousand twinkling stars light the domed ceiling all about you, projected subtly by unseen machines with clever tricks of light and mirrors - holograms are a rare sight, often simply impractical, but the interior of the orrery was purposefully designed to accommodate them. Phantom images of planets, scaled far larger than they should be so that they might remain visible, circle about a blazing sun in the center of the room. The view shifts slowly, planets blurring even as the stars appear to sit nearly still, the entire chamber’s projections slowly refocusing upon the Earth Sphere rather than the whole of the Solar System. Earth, Luna, the Sides, Luna II… Even Solomon and a few of the other captured satellite asteroids are all represented, as are the positions and orbits of many fleets and ships of note. The center of the room settles upon a large projection of the earth, blue and green surfaces shimmering in the void.

The faces of those nearest to you are only faintly visible in the wash of light coming off the holograms, their forms shifting as the illumination of the Earth Sphere continues its slow moment. Vivima and Tryphosa stand close by, while Revil remains a few paces further away, his gaze focused upon Zeon. There is no one else within the room - the cadre of officers dispersed shortly after arriving, dismissed by Revil, though you believe Vivima was able to receive the recorder through a bit of sleight of hand on her part and clumsy ‘accident’ by one of the aides. Izumi and Revil’s guards wait outside of the room.
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>>6003503

Revil begins solemnly, his voice carrying easily across the dark domed room, “We have only just avoided a clash between the Earth and Side Three, perhaps Six as well. You both understand what would have come of that.”

It’s a statement, not a question - of course you know. Horror and death, and the destruction of Zeon and Riah as well if they joined in, but at a horrific cost to the Federation as well. A chill runs through you at the thought, and you find your hand gripped by Tryphosa as she shares in your discomfort. The course of action you have steered yourself toward until this moment has never sat all that well with you.

“It would have been the destruction of the Earth Sphere as we know it, and most of Zeon.” Vivima replies before you do, but her words are nearly the same as what you would have chosen - you suspect Casval or Garma, even Artesia, would have spoken similarly. “We did what was necessary to protect our people.”

“Did you give the order to lock down Zeon and Riah?” You ask, thoughts of the rebellion still playing through your mind - the dead captain’s face stares at you with lifeless eyes. One more corpse to go along with those of the assassins, and soldiers, and all the staff of the villa, even the imagined silhouettes of guntank crews and terrorist pilots… Your hands are not clean, even if each death can be justified.

“I did.” Revil replies without hesitation, facing the question down directly, “And I understood what would be done.”

“...The actions of others are predictable, but still beyond one person’s control.” Tryphosa is at ease as she speaks, the dim light of the projected Earth Sphere catching beautifully in her blue eyes, her gaze piercing directly through Revil; she knows him as few do, seeing what there is to be seen far more capable than you can. She does so because another has before, one very close to her. “You desire men that are more cohesive, restrained, less prone to acts of… weakness. But you can only act with the men who exist, not the ones you hope will come.”
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>>6003504

“...And that hope is why I have asked you here,” Revil speaks mostly to you and Vivima, “I can speak with Degwin or Gihren whenever I wish, but your father is a tired man and set in his ways, and your brother is a cynic.”

“He’s a great man.” Vivima replies with a slight edge, though her expression remains nearly placid, unbothered by Revil’s words.”

“In a very old sense, yes.” Revil agrees, but discussing Gihren and whether or not he might deserve a title such as 'the Terrible' a century or two from now is not why the General called you here today, “The message you broadcast during your uprising - that is what I have brought you here to discuss. It was not in lockstep with the usual speeches I hear from Zeon.”

>”We meant every word of it. It would have been better to broadcast it at a more peaceful time, but times will be what they are. I’m glad you’ve listened to it, most in your position would not have.”
>”Some things cannot wait for a better time, they must be said to make sure such times come about at all - You’ve encountered one of Tryphosa’s sisters, haven’t you?”
>”If you were listening a few decades ago I’d say it wasn’t so very out of place. There’s still a chance for peace in the Earth Sphere, General.”
>Write-in.
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>>6003506
Unbothered by Revil's words.*
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>>6003506
>”Some things cannot wait for a better time, they must be said to make sure such times come about at all - You’ve encountered one of Tryphosa’s sisters, haven’t you?”
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>>6003506
>”If you were listening a few decades ago I’d say it wasn’t so very out of place. There’s still a chance for peace in the Earth Sphere, General.”
>”Some things cannot wait for a better time, they must be said to make sure such times come about at all - You’ve encountered one of Tryphosa’s sisters, haven’t you?”
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>>6003506
>”Some things cannot wait for a better time, they must be said to make sure such times come about at all - You’ve encountered one of Tryphosa’s sisters, haven’t you?”
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>>6003506
>”We meant every word of it. It would have been better to broadcast it at a more peaceful time, but times will be what they are. I’m glad you’ve listened to it, most in your position would not have.”
>”Some things cannot wait for a better time, they must be said to make sure such times come about at all - You’ve encountered one of Tryphosa’s sisters, haven’t you?”
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>>6003506
>>”We meant every word of it. It would have been better to broadcast it at a more peaceful time, but times will be what they are. I’m glad you’ve listened to it, most in your position would not have.”
Is this leading to a Federation backed coup of Zeon to force Vivima and Felix in as leaders?
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>>6003506
Supporting >>6003569.
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>>6003569
Support
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>>6003506
>>6003516
I'll change my vote to
1)
>”If you were listening a few decades ago I’d say it wasn’t so very out of place. There’s still a chance for peace in the Earth Sphere, General.”
>”Some things cannot wait for a better time, they must be said to make sure such times come about at all - You’ve encountered one of Tryphosa’s sisters, haven’t you?”
2)
>”Some things cannot wait for a better time, they must be said to make sure such times come about at all - You’ve encountered one of Tryphosa’s sisters, haven’t you?”
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>>6003513
>>6003525
>>6003800 (2nd)
Sisters?

>>6003569
>>6003589
>>6003794
Every word+Sisters?

>>6003573
Every word.

We have a tie currently, I'll give voting two more hours.
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>>6003513
>>6003506
I'll swap my vote to
>Every word+Sisters?
If the tie isn't broken.
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>>6003506
>”Some things cannot wait for a better time, they must be said to make sure such times come about at all - You’ve encountered one of Tryphosa’s sisters, haven’t you?”
Focus on getting info about what they know and think of Tryphosa's family first then get into politics.
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>>6003901
>>6003513
>>6003525
>>6003800 (2nd)
Sisters? Wins, writing.

>>6003569
>>6003589
>>6003794
Every word+Sisters?

>>6003573
Every word.
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“Some things cannot wait for a better time,” You reply solemnly, sensing the beginning of an opportunity here. Taking a few steps across the hologram filled room, you pass closer to Luna and Side Three, Von Braun city catching your eye for a moment, “They must be said to make sure such times come about at all - You’ve encountered one of Tryphosa’s sisters, haven’t you?”

“I have, though until your arrival here I did not know she had a twin.” Revil replies, either holding back information or simply ignorant of the truth, “She has been the center of our newtype investigations.”

…You remain silent on the fact that Tryphosa is a clone for now, perhaps you will reveal that in the moments to come or perhaps not - certainly Vivima and Tryphosa are in no rush to volunteer the information. Revil must sense the growing tension, and so he continues for a while longer, speaking with his usual resoluteness, “The investigations were begun two months ago at my order, after she arrived uninvited at one of our facilities.”

“...One of your hidden facilities.” Tryphosa adds the missing detail, more in tune with the old General than you are, “A place where the Earth swallows everything.”

“I see you share her perception as well then,” Revil frowns, but he does not deny the information, “We have gathered others showing similar abilities. Orphans, castoffs, the unfortunate - most are from Luna or the Sides. They… are enough to make a man consider Zeon Deikun’s words more carefully. I have been keeping them under the care of trusted officers.”

“They’re being gathered for research?” Vivima asks, arching an eyebrow, violet eyes nearly black in the dark of the room.

“No, for safekeeping. There are others attempting to study this phenomena, I know you are familiar with such facilities and their methods. I have no intention of subjecting children to those conditions, and as the supreme commander of the fleet and ground forces I have the power to make sure they are not, but I will not always hold this position.” There is judgment in Revil’s words, but it is deserved - your opinion of him only grows. The worst excesses of the Flanagan institute have been curbed through your efforts, but Kycilia and many of the researchers she sponsors have no qualms about kidnapping and exploiting children for research - anything in the pursuit of power. “They heard your message - her message. I have not been given an adequate explanation as to how.”

“They are a step closer toward true newtypes, you must feel it as well.” You consider Revil’s words as you reply, noting his use of ’most’ with great interest. Perhaps there truly is a newtype from earth then. “No one has reached the ideal yet, but it’s no surprise you’ve found some if you have gone looking - the emergence of more is inevitable, General.”
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>>6004216

“The day when we awake to join with our dreams is approaching.” Tryphosa adds quietly, bowing her head in a kind of prayer, “But still far off.”

>”Are you keeping them as… bargaining chips? I believe I’m missing something here.” Hopefully it isn’t something so cynical, but why exactly Revil would be gathering newtypes for ‘safekeeping’ is eluding you.
>”...This hidden facility wouldn’t happen to be Jaburo, would it?” Tryphosa sensed someone in South America when she spoke, and Elena has spoken of a gigantic base in Brazil known as ‘Jaburo’ before - it was under construction when her mother worked there, but that was years ago now.
>”Some of them were found on Earth?” Ask about that before it slips by, may as well be direct. An Earthnoid newtype is enough to give a *son* of Zeon Deikun something to consider more carefully. Vivima as well, perhaps.
>Write-in.
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>>6004218
1)
>”...This hidden facility wouldn’t happen to be Jaburo, would it?” Tryphosa sensed someone in South America when she spoke, and Elena has spoken of a gigantic base in Brazil known as ‘Jaburo’ before - it was under construction when her mother worked there, but that was years ago now.
2)
>”Some of them were found on Earth?” Ask about that before it slips by, may as well be direct. An Earthnoid newtype is enough to give a *son* of Zeon Deikun something to consider more carefully. Vivima as well, perhaps.
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>>6004218

1)
>”Some of them were found on Earth?” Ask about that before it slips by, may as well be direct. An Earthnoid newtype is enough to give a *son* of Zeon Deikun something to consider more carefully. Vivima as well, perhaps.

2)
>”...This hidden facility wouldn’t happen to be Jaburo, would it?” Tryphosa sensed someone in South America when she spoke, and Elena has spoken of a gigantic base in Brazil known as ‘Jaburo’ before - it was under construction when her mother worked there, but that was years ago now.
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>>6004218
>”...This hidden facility wouldn’t happen to be Jaburo, would it?” Tryphosa sensed someone in South America when she spoke, and Elena has spoken of a gigantic base in Brazil known as ‘Jaburo’ before - it was under construction when her mother worked there, but that was years ago now.
>”Some of them were found on Earth?” Ask about that before it slips by, may as well be direct. An Earthnoid newtype is enough to give a *son* of Zeon Deikun something to consider more carefully. Vivima as well, perhaps.
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>>6004218
>”...This hidden facility wouldn’t happen to be Jaburo, would it?” Tryphosa sensed someone in South America when she spoke, and Elena has spoken of a gigantic base in Brazil known as ‘Jaburo’ before - it was under construction when her mother worked there, but that was years ago now.
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>>6004218
>>Write-in.
"First, not as a scion of Daikun or diplomat of my nation. Simply as myself, Felix. Thank you, General Revil. Thank you for extending your protection to these precious seeds and sheltering them from those who would do them harm. These children, there and elsewhere, are our future. Not just Zeon's or the Earth Federation's. Humanity's future."

>”Some of them were found on Earth?” Ask about that before it slips by, may as well be direct. An Earthnoid newtype is enough to give a *son* of Zeon Deikun something to consider more carefully. Vivima as well, perhaps.
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>>6004218
>”...This hidden facility wouldn’t happen to be Jaburo, would it?” Tryphosa sensed someone in South America when she spoke, and Elena has spoken of a gigantic base in Brazil known as ‘Jaburo’ before - it was under construction when her mother worked there, but that was years ago now.
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>>6004218
1)
>”Some of them were found on Earth?” Ask about that before it slips by, may as well be direct. An Earthnoid newtype is enough to give a *son* of Zeon Deikun something to consider more carefully. Vivima as well, perhaps.
2)
>>6004233
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>>6004218
1)
>”Are you keeping them as… bargaining chips? I believe I’m missing something here.” Hopefully it isn’t something so cynical, but why exactly Revil would be gathering newtypes for ‘safekeeping’ is eluding you.
2)
>”...This hidden facility wouldn’t happen to be Jaburo, would it?” Tryphosa sensed someone in South America when she spoke, and Elena has spoken of a gigantic base in Brazil known as ‘Jaburo’ before - it was under construction when her mother worked there, but that was years ago now.
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>>6004218
>>”...This hidden facility wouldn’t happen to be Jaburo, would it?” Tryphosa sensed someone in South America when she spoke, and Elena has spoken of a gigantic base in Brazil known as ‘Jaburo’ before - it was under construction when her mother worked there, but that was years ago now.
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>>6004218
>”Some of them were found on Earth?” Ask about that before it slips by, may as well be direct. An Earthnoid newtype is enough to give a *son* of Zeon Deikun something to consider more carefully. Vivima as well, perhaps.
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>>6004218
1)
>”Are you keeping them as… bargaining chips? I believe I’m missing something here.” Hopefully it isn’t something so cynical, but why exactly Revil would be gathering newtypes for ‘safekeeping’ is eluding you.
>”...This hidden facility wouldn’t happen to be Jaburo, would it?” Tryphosa sensed someone in South America when she spoke, and Elena has spoken of a gigantic base in Brazil known as ‘Jaburo’ before - it was under construction when her mother worked there, but that was years ago now.
2)
>”Are you keeping them as… bargaining chips? I believe I’m missing something here.” Hopefully it isn’t something so cynical, but why exactly Revil would be gathering newtypes for ‘safekeeping’ is eluding you.
3)
>”...This hidden facility wouldn’t happen to be Jaburo, would it?” Tryphosa sensed someone in South America when she spoke, and Elena has spoken of a gigantic base in Brazil known as ‘Jaburo’ before - it was under construction when her mother worked there, but that was years ago now.
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>>6004218
1)
>”...This hidden facility wouldn’t happen to be Jaburo, would it?” Tryphosa sensed someone in South America when she spoke, and Elena has spoken of a gigantic base in Brazil known as ‘Jaburo’ before - it was under construction when her mother worked there, but that was years ago now.
2)
>”Are you keeping them as… bargaining chips? I believe I’m missing something here.” Hopefully it isn’t something so cynical, but why exactly Revil would be gathering newtypes for ‘safekeeping’ is eluding you.
>”...This hidden facility wouldn’t happen to be Jaburo, would it?” Tryphosa sensed someone in South America when she spoke, and Elena has spoken of a gigantic base in Brazil known as ‘Jaburo’ before - it was under construction when her mother worked there, but that was years ago now.
3)
>”Are you keeping them as… bargaining chips? I believe I’m missing something here.” Hopefully it isn’t something so cynical, but why exactly Revil would be gathering newtypes for ‘safekeeping’ is eluding you.
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>>6004220
>>6004245
>>6004262
>>6004286
>>6004485
>>6004226 (2nd)
>>6004281 (2nd)
>>6004437 (3rd)
Jaburo? Wins, writing.

>>6004275
>>6004361
Earth?

>>6004233
Jaburo+Earth

>>6004259
Write-in + Earth
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“...This hidden facility wouldn’t happen to be Jaburo, would it?” You ask directly, the pieces already coming together in your mind; there isn’t enough to be entirely sure, but a hidden facility that is likely underground and located in South America… It fits too well, even if there are probably other smaller facilities that match as well.

Vivima scoffs, “Calling Jaburo a hidden facility is almost an insult, General, we’ve known of it for years now.”

“A place can be known and hidden at the same time, Zabi. Your dark Banchi are no different.” Revil’s response comes immediately, cutting right through Viv’s typical arrogance - a reminder of the Federation’s own immense, if inefficient, intelligence apparatus, “Let’s not drift off topic - Newtypes are being identified and gathered at my orders, a test was created that has proven mostly effective in this, statistical analysis and the like - we have records on nearly every living person in the Earth Sphere. Your researchers have clearly developed their own more… technical methods. Two weeks ago I was pursuing this course to deny Zeon access to people with these abilities of perception, to keep them from you and others who would exploit them - there has been enough of that already this century. After your message, however, and the fact that it was heard by them even isolated and underground - across the void of space - I can only conclude that Zeon Deikun was… correct."

“...Are you sure this room is not bugged?” You ask in a hushed voice, your eyes widening at the General’s words - you’ve known he was sympathetic to the Sides, far more than most in the Federation brass, but this is far beyond that. It would be career suicide if his words got out.

“Absolutely certain.” Revil looks only to the projection of the Earth as he speaks, blue and green illuminating his weathered face.

A silence settles across the orrery for a time, eventually broken by Vivima, “What you’re saying would get you sacked, General.”

“I do not agree with his views entirely, do not get ahead of yourself.” Revil still looks only to the Earth, “I swore an oath to defend the Federation and its people - all of mankind within the Earth Sphere - and I intend fully to keep it. But that oath also forces me to face the truth, that there is something beyond our understanding at work in these… newtypes, if that is what they are.”

“It is what we are.” Tryphosa confirms quietly, “All of us.”

That[ is enough to get Revil’s gaze to turn toward you, something in your bond’s words enough to pull the old man’s eyes from the cradle of mankind, “...Then you are?”
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>>6004626

“Yes, all three of us are.” Vivima answers proudly, despite still remaining unawakened - but when have such details ever stopped a Zabi? “General, it is very good that you’ve begun to see the truth of things, but if that is all you’ve brought us here to say - and you remain opposed to us - then there is precious little to be discussed. What is the point you are moving toward?”

“I’ve brought you here to ask that you cease weapons research involving newtypes.” Revil states, giving Viv exactly what she asked for - and showing why jumping right to the point is so often not the best course of action.

Vivima begins to lie at once, “We don’t have any-”

“Your Flanagan institute is not as secret as you might think.” The General ignores her protestations and simply speaks over her, Viv’s words dying down as the old man makes it clear exactly what he expects, “ I do not expect this to be done altruistically. This plan I propose is this: I will send the newtypes that we have gathered on Earth to a neutral location in the Sides, a new colony, as will Zeon and Riah. No military research of any kind will be conducted there, there will be no military presence at all. Some things should be beyond the control of any single polity. If these ‘newtypes’ are truly so vital to mankind’s future, then they should be kept as neutral as the Energy Fleet is. Losing them to war or corruption, all the petty squabbling that consumes men - that would be a terrible tragedy. I will do my best to prevent research within the Federation as well.”

>”...Vivima, we have several new colonies under construction for industrial use - conversion to a residential type is not so difficult. Could one be spared?” There are many, many issues with implementing such a plan - but it can still be explored. Perhaps it is not impossible.
>”That isn’t feasible, General. It would never work, newtypes are too many, emerging all across the Sides and beyond - they cannot be bottled up or controlled. Even our research has never tried to do such a thing.” Revil sees that newtypes are real, he must even feel them in some very small way, but he does not understand.
>”...Even if we were to agree to this plan, General, neither Vivima nor I have the influence to make it so. It is too idealistic for Gihren to ever swallow no matter what price is paid to see it done, he would never stand for it. …Neither would Degwin, likely enough.” …Even Casval might balk at the risks, but you suspect he might come around after a few talks. Trusting the Federation is a difficult pill to swallow after so many betrayals. …Perhaps it is even foolish to try.
>Write-in. (Suggest something different? This is a rare opportunity, it may never come up again.)

Zeon still doesn't have the faintest fucking clue where Jaburo's real entrances are, pretty much the same as the normal timeline.
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>>6004629
1)
>”...Even if we were to agree to this plan, General, neither Vivima nor I have the influence to make it so. It is too idealistic for Gihren to ever swallow no matter what price is paid to see it done, he would never stand for it. …Neither would Degwin, likely enough.” …Even Casval might balk at the risks, but you suspect he might come around after a few talks. Trusting the Federation is a difficult pill to swallow after so many betrayals. …Perhaps it is even foolish to try.
2)
>”That isn’t feasible, General. It would never work, newtypes are too many, emerging all across the Sides and beyond - they cannot be bottled up or controlled. Even our research has never tried to do such a thing.” Revil sees that newtypes are real, he must even feel them in some very small way, but he does not understand.
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>>6004629
1)
>”...Vivima, we have several new colonies under construction for industrial use - conversion to a residential type is not so difficult. Could one be spared?” There are many, many issues with implementing such a plan - but it can still be explored. Perhaps it is not impossible.
Yes it is risky, but it could prevent some tragedies and help Casval meet Lalah.
2)
>”That isn’t feasible, General. It would never work, newtypes are too many, emerging all across the Sides and beyond - they cannot be bottled up or controlled. Even our research has never tried to do such a thing.” Revil sees that newtypes are real, he must even feel them in some very small way, but he does not understand.
>"But it is commendable to try and help if possible. Perhaps we can arrange something that can assist with not using newtypes as weapons with neutral grounds and a demilitarized colony." Such a ting would be complicated, and there would be a need to make sure it's not used as an excuse or restocking port for the Federation to use against the Sides.
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>>6004629
>”...Vivima, we have several new colonies under construction for industrial use - conversion to a residential type is not so difficult. Could one be spared?” There are many, many issues with implementing such a plan - but it can still be explored. Perhaps it is not impossible.

We should try and give something here, otherwise with Vivima's approach this meeting isn't really going to go anywhere.

This plan will probably inevitably fail, and the colony will most likely be relegated to a ghetto really quickly, but a large gathering of newtypes could be a greater step towards a newtype future.
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>>6004629
1)
>Write-in.
>"While I would personally like to agree to such a plan, as the weaponization of newtypes is a great tragedy, it would be difficult to turn it into reality due to lack of influence compared to Kycilia, Gihren or Degwin. I doubt any of them would agree to it."
2)
>Write-in.
>"Fully protecting all newtypes isn't possible. Newtypes are emerging on all the Sides even as we speak, but I agree there must be some way to prevent using them as mere weapons or as a means for power and corruption."
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>>6004629
>”...Vivima, we have several new colonies under construction for industrial use - conversion to a residential type is not so difficult. Could one be spared?” There are many, many issues with implementing such a plan - but it can still be explored. Perhaps it is not impossible.
>”That isn’t feasible, General. It would never work, newtypes are too many, emerging all across the Sides and beyond - they cannot be bottled up or controlled. Even our research has never tried to do such a thing.” Revil sees that newtypes are real, he must even feel them in some very small way, but he does not understand.

This would make it an old type war. Which would be kinda fucking wild
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>>6004629
1)
>Write-in. (Suggest something different? This is a rare opportunity, it may never come up again.)
A neutral fleet, transports, converted for agriculture or even an asteroid or comet. Perhaps given a trajectory outside the Earth Sphere, well away from people who would seek to use them. It would also make it harder for spies or a military force to capture.

2)
>”...Vivima, we have several new colonies under construction for industrial use - conversion to a residential type is not so difficult. Could one be spared?” There are many, many issues with implementing such a plan - but it can still be explored. Perhaps it is not impossible.

It's too big an opportunity to completely shut down. This will however require a much more immediate, solution, to the Zabi problem if this new colony were to actually survive the predations of the major factions. What better place to turn into a colony drop than an undefended one.

If only we were recording this conversation.
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>>6004629
>>6004649
Changing my vote to
1)
>Write-in. (Suggest something different? This is a rare opportunity, it may never come up again.)
>A neutral fleet, transports, converted for agriculture or even an asteroid or comet. Perhaps given a trajectory outside the Earth Sphere, well away from people who would seek to use them. It would also make it harder for spies or a military force to capture.
2)
>Write-in.
>"While I would personally like to agree to such a plan, as the weaponization of newtypes is a great tragedy, it would be difficult to turn it into reality due to lack of influence compared to Kycilia, Gihren or Degwin. I doubt any of them would agree to it."
3)
>”...Vivima, we have several new colonies under construction for industrial use - conversion to a residential type is not so difficult. Could one be spared?” There are many, many issues with implementing such a plan - but it can still be explored. Perhaps it is not impossible.
4)
>”That isn’t feasible, General. It would never work, newtypes are too many, emerging all across the Sides and beyond - they cannot be bottled up or controlled. Even our research has never tried to do such a thing.” Revil sees that newtypes are real, he must even feel them in some very small way, but he does not understand.
>"But it is commendable to try and help if possible. Perhaps we can arrange something that can assist with not using newtypes as weapons with neutral grounds and a demilitarized colony, fleet, or even an asteroid." Such a thing would be complicated, and there would be a need to make sure it's not used as an excuse or restocking port for the Federation to use against the Sides.
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>>6004629
1)
>Write-in. (Suggest something different? This is a rare opportunity, it may never come up again.)
>A neutral fleet, transports, converted for agriculture or even an asteroid or comet. Perhaps given a trajectory outside the Earth Sphere, well away from people who would seek to use them. It would also make it harder for spies or a military force to capture.
2)
>”That isn’t feasible, General. It would never work, newtypes are too many, emerging all across the Sides and beyond - they cannot be bottled up or controlled. Even our research has never tried to do such a thing.” Revil sees that newtypes are real, he must even feel them in some very small way, but he does not understand.
>"But it is commendable to try and help if possible. Perhaps we can arrange something that can assist with not using newtypes as weapons with neutral grounds and a demilitarized colony, fleet, or even an asteroid." Such a thing would be complicated, and there would be a need to make sure it's not used as an excuse or restocking port for the Federation to use against the Sides.
3)
>”...Vivima, we have several new colonies under construction for industrial use - conversion to a residential type is not so difficult. Could one be spared?” There are many, many issues with implementing such a plan - but it can still be explored. Perhaps it is not impossible.
4)
>Write-in.
>"While I would personally like to agree to such a plan, as the weaponization of newtypes is a great tragedy, it would be difficult to turn it into reality due to lack of influence compared to Kycilia, Gihren or Degwin. I doubt any of them would agree to it."
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>>6004629
1)
>Write-in. (Suggest something different? This is a rare opportunity, it may never come up again.)
>A neutral fleet, transports, converted for agriculture or even an asteroid or comet. Perhaps given a trajectory outside the Earth Sphere, well away from people who would seek to use them. It would also make it harder for spies or a military force to capture.
2)
>”That isn’t feasible, General. It would never work, newtypes are too many, emerging all across the Sides and beyond - they cannot be bottled up or controlled. Even our research has never tried to do such a thing.” Revil sees that newtypes are real, he must even feel them in some very small way, but he does not understand.
>"But it is commendable to try and help if possible. Perhaps we can arrange something that can assist with not using newtypes as weapons with neutral grounds and a demilitarized colony, fleet, or even an asteroid." Such a thing would be complicated, and there would be a need to make sure it's not used as an excuse or restocking port for the Federation to use against the Sides.
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>>6004746
I'll just vote for 1) here since I like that write-in the best, but I'd like to imply that it'd probably be impossible to secure all newtypes (though Revil might already know realize that much).
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>>6004629
>>”...Vivima, we have several new colonies under construction for industrial use - conversion to a residential type is not so difficult. Could one be spared?” There are many, many issues with implementing such a plan - but it can still be explored. Perhaps it is not impossible.
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>>6004629
>Write-in.
"What you are suggesting, General Revil, is tantamount to genocide. The forceful division of a marginalized group from society at whole to be detained against any will they may have is not an equitable solution. Of course diplomatically, neither Zeon or the Earth Federation will come off worse for this, but the Newtypes get no say in the matter. What about the families of those you intend to deport from their homes? Mothers losing daughters, siblings being split. I cannot accept you taking the choice to affirm our own identities of Newtypes. Would you have the three of us sent off as well? I choose to fight for what I love, and I will fight so that others can too."
"I can see you value Newtypes, but we are an inevitability for all spacenoid life. If you truly understand then you know the only answer is for humanity to leave its cradle, permanently. There will always be an arms race, and choosing to remove the newest developments is always the choice of entrenched power."
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We should probably discuss how long we would even keep them there complete segregation of newtypes from society may not be a good idea we should have a definite time of reintegration sooner rather than later to even consider this sidenote but we need to find a way to keep Jupiter away from this fleet/colony as it’s becoming more obvious they might want to do something to the newtype population
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>>6005061
Another thing is what about newtypes that are already firmly in the military like tiff what’s the extent of this?
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>>6004629
1)
>Write-in. (Suggest something different? This is a rare opportunity, it may never come up again.)
>A neutral fleet, transports, converted for agriculture or even an asteroid or comet. Perhaps given a trajectory outside the Earth Sphere, well away from people who would seek to use them. It would also make it harder for spies or a military force to capture.
2)
>Write-in.
>"What you are suggesting, General Revil, is tantamount to genocide. The forceful division of a marginalized group from society at whole to be detained against any will they may have is not an equitable solution. Of course diplomatically, neither Zeon or the Earth Federation will come off worse for this, but the Newtypes get no say in the matter. What about the families of those you intend to deport from their homes? Mothers losing daughters, siblings being split. I cannot accept you taking the choice to affirm our own identities of Newtypes. Would you have the three of us sent off as well? I choose to fight for what I love, and I will fight so that others can too."
>"I can see you value Newtypes, but we are an inevitability for all spacenoid life. If you truly understand then you know the only answer is for humanity to leave its cradle, permanently. There will always be an arms race, and choosing to remove the newest developments is always the choice of entrenched power."

>>6005061
Probably until the war is over? With a grace period to come back after there's peace? Anyway we should talk about a reintegration program if we do this.

>>6005066
I'm guessing Revil is only talking about newtypes specifically used as weapons, and this doesn't apply to newtypes that are already in the military and leadership. I mean I doubt he's saying that Felix, Vivima and Revil himself should step down or something lel
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>>6004640
Not enough influence.

>>6004649
>>6004678
New colonies?

>>6004700
Write-in.

>>6004711
New colonies+not feasible.

>>6004721
>>6004829
>>6004746
>>6004752
>>6005099
Neutral fleet write-in. Wins, writing.

>>6004887
Genocide! This does not satisfy the intent or physical act elements required for genocide.
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>>6005173
QM I think you counted me twice
>>6004649
>>6004829
Yet it doesn't change the end vote.
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“Rather than a colony, I would prefer a neutral fleet. Transports converted for agriculture, hospital ships, research vessels - even a mobile asteroid,” You find Revil’s idea immediately compelling despite its many practical flaws, the greatest of which seems to be how exploitable a colony or even a cluster of colonies without a military presence would be. They would be at the mercy of the good will of the great powers, a sanctuary which could become a concentration camp with a simple change of leadership and shifting of the political winds. It has happened before. Created homelands, the Sides themselves, have seen it far too many times. “Perhaps even with a trajectory that takes them regularly outside of the Earth Sphere, as the energy fleet does, well away from those who would seek to abuse them.”

“That would put the energy fleet at great unease,” Tryphosa whispers, but all within the room hear her meaning clearly, “The men my father works with… they would not tolerate its existence for long, it would be corrupted or commandeered within the first few years.”

“There are certainly flaws, but there were with the colony plan as well.” Vivima speaks uncertainly, an unusual degree of indecision creeping into her smooth voice as she half-heartedly supports you, “It’s worth exploring the idea. We’re already charting a dangerous orbit - a wrong press of a pedal and we’ll be burning up in the atmosphere… And of course Gihren and Kycilia will never understand, whichever of these plans we might choose.”

Revil strokes at his beard, deep in thought as the blue waters of the vast pacific illuminate his face, the projection of the Earth still by far the most prominent in the room and slowly rotating, “I have heard that you are something of a mediating force within your family. If you had not been a part of the broadcast, I would never have attempted this meeting.”
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>>6005459

“We’re both mediators, but some things are beyond us.” Vivima’s every word grows more confident as she speaks, and you can feel those old familiar clouds within her mind stirring again into a chaotic storm, unreadable confusion - obfuscated beyond your senses, or even Tryphosa’s, “And to be frank, I share the doubts my older siblings will harbor. When has the Federation ever kept its promises for more than a few years? A few seats in the senate change and the entire organization turns itself into a liar, there is no direction - Earth was never united properly, only forced to do so by the necessity of survival, and there is no common will in either the people or its leaders. A mobile fleet would be more difficult to exploit, but conditions aboard it would be harsh, inhospitable, even an asteroid base such as Luna II equipped with nuclear pulse engines could never be a true home. A colony or group of banchi could perhaps be, even another Side in time, but that is only easier to exploit. What reassurances can you give us that the Federation will not act as it always has?”

Revil takes in Vivima’s criticism as only one who has tolerated decades of shifts in the political winds can, listening carefully and displaying only the slightest hint of emotion, his face a mask of discipline; certainly he is no stranger to serious doubts about the Federation, no one who deals with the governments of the Sides ever could be, “I will do all I can to carry out my end of any deal that is made, so long as I remain in command - and though it is slow, I have begun to reshape our military. Others will share similar views, if they see it as a success. There will be detractors - Violent detractors. - but I believe a few years of neutrality respected by the Federation and all the Sides would create a taboo that few would dare to break.”

“...That is not enough.” Vivima sighs and shakes her head, violet eyes cast downward, away from the glowing holograms, “Your position might not even survive proposing or funding such a plan, in secret or not. I know your black budget is considerable, General, but even it is audited every so often. How would you explain it?”

“There are agreeable politicians, Ereists and those sympathetic to the Sides. I would not be alone.” Revil avoids her question, giving a half answer. It’s nearly enough to damn the entire plan on its own; the Federation's internal bickering and shifting goals can never be trusted. Revil is no dictator, he can promise nothing with certainty beyond his own actions.
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>>6005461

“You would be at the mercy of a single vote, and you would not have the numbers.” You say quietly, deeply unhappy with the situation. This is a plan you sorely wish to see work, but the longer it lingers in your mind the more flawed it seems. There must be some way to avoid the coming horror, some path to the future your father foresaw without a war or corruption of newtypes before they have even truly emerged.

“That remains to be seen.” Revil disagrees, perhaps more of an idealist than even you are, though he hides it well to have achieved such a great rank, “Men have a way of coming around to ideas once they have already begun.”

“The lack of assurances does not sit well with me either.” You still do not find his points convincing enough, but there are other more immediate issues - Kycilia and Gihren shaped ones. “I believe your word is good, General, but we cannot guarantee our end of any bargain either.”

“Yes, my siblings will never see this as we… could. I am unsure if I even do.” Vivima’s doubt remain unconcealed, and she takes a small step closer to you, looking up to meet your eyes in the dark of the orrery, the light of Side Three passing over you both as Luna passes along with the Side, “And even if I did, it would cause chaos within our family. Felix, I do not think this is wise… It would destroy what you have just made. We cannot make a deal like this, as much as I wish it were possible.”

Revil listens intently, but he cannot possibly understand the deeper meaning. Vivima speaks of your marriage, your wife and children - if Gihren is looking for proof of loyalty and belief in his ideals, coming back with this kind of proposal would only go to show that you are entirely opposed to them. You are opposed to them, but the risk is catastrophic. There would be no more veiled threats and requests, the day of reckoning would come too soon.

“General, if we agreed to any form of this plan, it would result in conflict within Zeon.” You explain delicately, choosing sanitized language with Vivima so close - but even she knows what her siblings are capable of, though she might often be in accord with their monstrous actions. She is perhaps not as lost as they are, but still raised by them, and very much still their little sister. That’s not something Tryphosa can work out of her in half a year. “Another purge, even.”

“I will not fight my own family, either side of it.” Vivima’s words ring the death knell of any plan colony or fleet, but her reference to both halves is strangely reassuring, perhaps she would be… neutral, in a conflict. No, even that is wishful thinking. It must hurt her to think of it. That is surely it, isn’t it? She must be as conflicted as you are, in her own Zabi sort of way. “I will have no part of any plan this drastic.”
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>>6005468

“...I thought as much. It was still worth the attempt.” Revil does not sound surprised, and though he frowns there is little more to be done - so like the general he is, he moves on from the loss and reassess, seeking a new way to achieve his goals. The death of a single proposal and its variations is not the end of talks, such things happen in backroom diplomacy. “What is to be done about these newtypes then? Not acting is itself a choice, knowing what others are already doing.”

“Would you be willing to coup the Federation government?” Vivima asks bluntly.

Revil’s expression darkens, “Absolutely not. Do not suggest it again.”

Vivima nods, expecting her proposal to fail as well - it might have been feasible with a different commander sympathetic to Zeon Deikun’s vision, but it would never be possible with Revil being Revil. He could never agree to it. “...Of course. Your loyalty is very admirable, I wish it had been better placed. You would have done better serving among your true people.”

Revil does not give a reply to Vivima’s damning praise; how is one to respond to being called both loyal and a traitor in the same breath? Silence, perhaps, is the wise choice, and the one he takes for the moment.
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>>6005469

“Leaving here without an agreement would be a tragedy.” Tryphosa speaks for the good of many, even as weighed down as Vivima and Revil are. As weighed down as you are. “I hope this dream will not die. Newtypes are not meant to live as weapons.”

>”General, an organized fleet or colony may be beyond what can be done… but Newtypes could be gathered more subtly. As we have been already, but directed to another place. Not a specially built one. No fanfare, no announcements, no separation - but still a place for them. …Perhaps it is a naive hope, but my father spoke of newtypes understanding one another as mankind has never been able to before. Perhaps simply gathering enough together could… result in some kind of change. Even if we cannot know what it will be to begin with.” A minimal guiding interference, more feasible but still flawed. Nothing is ever perfect.

>”...They are not, and they will not. We can control our own research, as we have been. General Revil, if you can promise the same then that is at least something to walk away from these talks with. I wish it were more.” …A disappointing conclusion, but there is little else you can do without risking everything. Without a greater chance of success, such a severe risk is not something you can agree to.

>”General, send the newtypes you have gathered to Zeon - We will look after them. I promise I will see to it personally. They will not be used as weapons, or for any research at all. It will not be a part of our existing initiatives - though we have tried to guide those from their worst aspects as well. I cannot promise anything further than that in return, except for the good will of the future leaders of Zeon.” …Could he ever agree to such a one-sided plan? He exchanges newtypes for unbacked promises, relying entirely on your word. Kycilia will surely find out, but perhaps you could spin it as only neutralizing the Federation’s fledgling programs.

>Write-in.

Hopefully there aren't any glaringly bad typos or syntax errors, wanted to get this posted before I went to sleep.
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>>6005470
>”General, an organized fleet or colony may be beyond what can be done… but Newtypes could be gathered more subtly. As we have been already, but directed to another place. Not a specially built one. No fanfare, no announcements, no separation - but still a place for them. …Perhaps it is a naive hope, but my father spoke of newtypes understanding one another as mankind has never been able to before. Perhaps simply gathering enough together could… result in some kind of change. Even if we cannot know what it will be to begin with.” A minimal guiding interference, more feasible but still flawed. Nothing is ever perfect.
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>>6005470
>”...They are not, and they will not. We can control our own research, as we have been. General Revil, if you can promise the same then that is at least something to walk away from these talks with. I wish it were more.” …A disappointing conclusion, but there is little else you can do without risking everything. Without a greater chance of success, such a severe risk is not something you can agree to.

>Write-in.
We may not come to a proper resolution today and walk away with a sufficiently binding deal, but it may well be worth tabling in future should terms come up for debate where a more binding agreement can be ratified, in the open in place of a back room deal.

CAPCHA was :NKVD, looks like its time to debrief with Kycilia. maybe Jaburo could be located by looking for Newtype signatures, since we know they're being gathered or otherwise looking for patterns or directing whatever turn coats she has access to to look into them.
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>>6005470
1)
>”General, an organized fleet or colony may be beyond what can be done… but Newtypes could be gathered more subtly. As we have been already, but directed to another place. Not a specially built one. No fanfare, no announcements, no separation - but still a place for them. …Perhaps it is a naive hope, but my father spoke of newtypes understanding one another as mankind has never been able to before. Perhaps simply gathering enough together could… result in some kind of change. Even if we cannot know what it will be to begin with.” A minimal guiding interference, more feasible but still flawed. Nothing is ever perfect.
2)
>”General, send the newtypes you have gathered to Zeon - We will look after them. I promise I will see to it personally. They will not be used as weapons, or for any research at all. It will not be a part of our existing initiatives - though we have tried to guide those from their worst aspects as well. I cannot promise anything further than that in return, except for the good will of the future leaders of Zeon.” …Could he ever agree to such a one-sided plan? He exchanges newtypes for unbacked promises, relying entirely on your word. Kycilia will surely find out, but perhaps you could spin it as only neutralizing the Federation’s fledgling programs.
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>>6005470
>”General, an organized fleet or colony may be beyond what can be done… but Newtypes could be gathered more subtly. As we have been already, but directed to another place. Not a specially built one. No fanfare, no announcements, no separation - but still a place for them. …Perhaps it is a naive hope, but my father spoke of newtypes understanding one another as mankind has never been able to before. Perhaps simply gathering enough together could… result in some kind of change. Even if we cannot know what it will be to begin with.” A minimal guiding interference, more feasible but still flawed. Nothing is ever perfect.
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>>6005470
>”General, send the newtypes you have gathered to Zeon - We will look after them. I promise I will see to it personally. They will not be used as weapons, or for any research at all. It will not be a part of our existing initiatives - though we have tried to guide those from their worst aspects as well. I cannot promise anything further than that in return, except for the good will of the future leaders of Zeon.” …Could he ever agree to such a one-sided plan? He exchanges newtypes for unbacked promises, relying entirely on your word. Kycilia will surely find out, but perhaps you could spin it as only neutralizing the Federation’s fledgling programs.

Which if that fails then

>”General, an organized fleet or colony may be beyond what can be done… but Newtypes could be gathered more subtly. As we have been already, but directed to another place. Not a specially built one. No fanfare, no announcements, no separation - but still a place for them. …Perhaps it is a naive hope, but my father spoke of newtypes understanding one another as mankind has never been able to before. Perhaps simply gathering enough together could… result in some kind of change. Even if we cannot know what it will be to begin with.” A minimal guiding interference, more feasible but still flawed. Nothing is ever perfect.
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>>6005470
>>”General, an organized fleet or colony may be beyond what can be done… but Newtypes could be gathered more subtly. As we have been already, but directed to another place. Not a specially built one. No fanfare, no announcements, no separation - but still a place for them. …Perhaps it is a naive hope, but my father spoke of newtypes understanding one another as mankind has never been able to before. Perhaps simply gathering enough together could… result in some kind of change. Even if we cannot know what it will be to begin with.” A minimal guiding interference, more feasible but still flawed. Nothing is ever perfect.
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>>6005470
1)
>”...They are not, and they will not. We can control our own research, as we have been. General Revil, if you can promise the same then that is at least something to walk away from these talks with. I wish it were more.” …A disappointing conclusion, but there is little else you can do without risking everything. Without a greater chance of success, such a severe risk is not something you can agree to.
2)
>”General, an organized fleet or colony may be beyond what can be done… but Newtypes could be gathered more subtly. As we have been already, but directed to another place. Not a specially built one. No fanfare, no announcements, no separation - but still a place for them. …Perhaps it is a naive hope, but my father spoke of newtypes understanding one another as mankind has never been able to before. Perhaps simply gathering enough together could… result in some kind of change. Even if we cannot know what it will be to begin with.” A minimal guiding interference, more feasible but still flawed. Nothing is ever perfect.
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>>6005470
>”General, send the newtypes you have gathered to Zeon - We will look after them. I promise I will see to it personally. They will not be used as weapons, or for any research at all. It will not be a part of our existing initiatives - though we have tried to guide those from their worst aspects as well. I cannot promise anything further than that in return, except for the good will of the future leaders of Zeon.” …Could he ever agree to such a one-sided plan? He exchanges newtypes for unbacked promises, relying entirely on your word. Kycilia will surely find out, but perhaps you could spin it as only neutralizing the Federation’s fledgling programs.
Its space-based reverse genocide against an ethnic group that struggles for recognition. Yes, not exactly 'destruction', but still destructive, and definitely oppressive.
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>>6005635
+1 to this.
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>>6005470
>”General, an organized fleet or colony may be beyond what can be done… but Newtypes could be gathered more subtly. As we have been already, but directed to another place. Not a specially built one. No fanfare, no announcements, no separation - but still a place for them. …Perhaps it is a naive hope, but my father spoke of newtypes understanding one another as mankind has never been able to before. Perhaps simply gathering enough together could… result in some kind of change. Even if we cannot know what it will be to begin with.” A minimal guiding interference, more feasible but still flawed. Nothing is ever perfect.
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>>6005475
>>6005478
>>6005527
>>6005677
>>6005817
>>6005770
Subtle gathering. Wins, writing.

>>6005635
>>6005782
Zeon, and then subtle gathering if that fails. I don't think this was subtle gathering as a seperate second choice, but even if it was it doesn't change the result.

>>6005771
Zeon!

>>6005477
Anti-exploitation pact.

>>6005771
Reverse genocide isn't a thing, anon. I think what you're saying is that it would be a type of unlawful forced displacement, and likely to be coupled with other pernicious human rights violations. This might be correct, but it depends on a lot of factors that weren't discussed in Revil's brief proposal. There isn't enough detail there to know. Expecting the worst in Gundam is reasonable desu.
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>>6005470
>”General, an organized fleet or colony may be beyond what can be done… but Newtypes could be gathered more subtly. As we have been already, but directed to another place. Not a specially built one. No fanfare, no announcements, no separation - but still a place for them. …Perhaps it is a naive hope, but my father spoke of newtypes understanding one another as mankind has never been able to before. Perhaps simply gathering enough together could… result in some kind of change. Even if we cannot know what it will be to begin with.” A minimal guiding interference, more feasible but still flawed. Nothing is ever perfect.
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”General, an organized fleet or colony may be beyond what can be done… but newtypes could be gathered more subtly. As we have been doing already, but directed to another place.” You search for the right words, piecing together a more delicate plan than even those proposed before, one which relies more on secrecy and coincidence, hiding what is being done in plain sight, “Not a specially built one. No fanfare, no announcements, no separation - but still a place for them. …Perhaps it is a naive hope, but my father spoke of newtypes understanding one another as mankind has never been able to before. Perhaps simply gathering enough together could… result in some kind of change. Even if we cannot know what it will be to begin with.”

“Where do you propose?” Revil’s question is simple, but difficult to answer.

“There is nowhere within the Earth Sphere beyond the reach of the Federation or Zeon, whether in their territory or not, but it cannot be on Earth - we could never flourish there, gravity would suffocate us.” Vivima again takes an aggressive stance, but you agree. As good as Spain was to you, before the tragedy at the Villa at least, it is no place for a long term community of newtypes.

The old general squints at Vivima, “You’re suggesting they be sent to Zeon?”

“...That was not what I was implying, though it could work.” Vivima shakes her head, “We do have enough influence to shield them from conscription or research, allow them to live as others do… until such a time as they are ready to make their presence more widely known.”

Tryphosa steps between them, bringing a feeling of calm with her words, the tension in the air dissolving away; it is very good that she is here, or this might have broken down into squabbling already, even her presence is helpful, “More will awaken as time stretches on, there is no avoiding it. Could Riah be suitable?”

“That is nearly the same as Zeon.” Revil shakes his head, displeased with Side Three or Six as options, and he walks instead toward the glowing silver projection of the moon, it's dark craters and waterless seas wrapping across it, the faint lights of cities shining through even on the holographic form, “...What of Luna?”

“A Federation stronghold, nearly the same as Earth. Lunarians are hardly-” Vivima stops herself from saying more, looking at you hesitantly, “Do you think it would be suitable, Felix? You know Luna better than I do.”

You look over the grey surface of Earth’s cratered companion, surveying the familiar topography, the slight dips and rises of craters and seas captured in the very finely detailed projection, “I’ve never felt it interfered with my perception while I lived there. I do not think that would be an issue - we have found newtypes from Luna.”
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>>6005977

“Some have come from the Earth.” Revil comments, confirming your suspicion from earlier - you did not ask further then, but it cannot be ignored any longer.

“They have? Someone from the Sides, or a native?” You feel something familiar around you once more, a presence you have felt before at least twice - green eyes watching from far off, but they are not searching for you. They may not know they are searching at all - the feeling passes too quickly to focus upon it. Tryphosa felt it as well.

“A native. Just one.” His answer is simple, not nearly enough. Vivima looks as if she is about to speak, but keeps her thoughts her own for now, violet eyes cast toward the Earth with a new interest; she looks towards South America, to the Amazon - to Jaburo, though you know nothing of the base’s precise location, and less of its entrances. …She must have felt something as well.

>Suggest Zeon or Riah, you have the most control there even if the risk of interference from Kycilia or Gihren is real. Revil might decline, you may want to give up something else to bring him around to the idea - it’s a very one-sided deal otherwise. (What though?)
>Suggest Luna. Lunarians are sympathetic to the Federation, but they are still spacenoids and keep a degree of autonomy. Luna is home to much of the Federation’s space based military industry thanks to Anaheim’s factories and shipyards.
>Suggest a different location to gather newtypes more subtly (Specify. Other Sides, asteroid habitats, even the Earth - anywhere you can think of, but be prepare to defend your reasoning.)
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>>6005983
1)
>Suggest Solomon
2)
>Suggest Riah
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>>6005983
>Suggest Luna. Lunarians are sympathetic to the Federation, but they are still spacenoids and keep a degree of autonomy. Luna is home to much of the Federation’s space based military industry thanks to Anaheim’s factories and shipyards.
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>>6005983
>>Suggest Luna. Lunarians are sympathetic to the Federation, but they are still spacenoids and keep a degree of autonomy. Luna is home to much of the Federation’s space based military industry thanks to Anaheim’s factories and shipyards.
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>>6005983
>Suggest Luna. Lunarians are sympathetic to the Federation, but they are still spacenoids and keep a degree of autonomy. Luna is home to much of the Federation’s space based military industry thanks to Anaheim’s factories and shipyards.
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>>6005983
>Suggest a different location to gather newtypes more subtly (Specify. Other Sides, asteroid habitats, even the Earth - anywhere you can think of, but be prepare to defend your reasoning.)
Mars. Certainly sheltered from conflict.
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>>6005983
>Suggest Luna. Lunarians are sympathetic to the Federation, but they are still spacenoids and keep a degree of autonomy. Luna is home to much of the Federation’s space based military industry thanks to Anaheim’s factories and shipyards.
We should talk about how long they’re supposed to be there
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>>6005983
Here's a thought: what about tracking down Moon Moon and putting them in there? The place is darker than most dark colonies. Only problem is I dunno if Felix would know enough history to recall a story about an old abandoned space colony.
>Suggest tracking down one of the old abandoned test colonies from a century ago and settling them there for the foreseeable future
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>>6005983
1)
Mars.
2)
Moon Moon.
3)
Solomon.
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>>6005983
>Suggest a different location to gather newtypes more subtly (Specify. Other Sides, asteroid habitats, even the Earth - anywhere you can think of, but be prepare to defend your reasoning.)

Mar's or Moon Moon.

Really simple. Both out if the way, capable of being built up as needed and can be justified by both sides budgets but not worth sending military forces.
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>>6006114
>>6006107
Moon Moon is in Side 1, which puts it in the middle of hardline feddie space and is so old and poorly made it doesn't even protect people from solar radiation. It's also full of primitive hippy retards. Mars is a lawless colony neglected by even Zeon until after the war when Kycilia's remnant faction conquers it.
They're the equivalent of Green Bank WV and Tijuana.
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>>6005983
>Suggest Luna. Lunarians are sympathetic to the Federation, but they are still spacenoids and keep a degree of autonomy. Luna is home to much of the Federation’s space based military industry thanks to Anaheim’s factories and shipyards.
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>>6005983
>>Suggest Luna. Lunarians are sympathetic to the Federation, but they are still spacenoids and keep a degree of autonomy. Luna is home to much of the Federation’s space based military industry thanks to Anaheim’s factories and shipyards.
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>>6006172
Perfect place to put abunch of space wizards.
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>>6006019
Solomon

>>6006027
>>6006049
>>6006057
>>6006095
>>6006174
>>6006185
Luna. Wins, writing.

>>6006079
Mars

>>6006107
>>6006114 (2nd)
>>6006136 (2nd)
Moon Moon
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Leaving the matter of this newtype from earth aside for a moment longer, suspecting you will learn far more in time if a plan can be agreed upon, you settle upon a choice of location, “I believe Luna is the most suitable place to take in newtypes, given the circumstances.”

“Luna?” Vivima half mutters to herself, head cocked ever so slightly as she considers the proposal, dark purple hair shifting in the light of the orrery, “...That could work. In a single city, or spread more widely?”

“I’m open to considering both, a wider spread would help to maintain secrecy for longer, but the more concentrated they are the more likely it is we will achieve… some kind of understanding, perhaps, before it is too late. It’s the only hope we have, politics being as they are.” It’s a statement of defiance rather than an admission of defeat - it might be politically impossible to do what you’d really like to, but you will do something, give the future some chance to grow. Will it avoid a war? No, almost certainly not, but some parts of Luna are far less likely to face destruction by nuclear strikes due to sophisticated defense systems, the innate durability that comes with underground cities, and the importance as industrial and logistics hubs… and the humanity of their residents, as a sadly very distant factor. That kind of war will make monsters of everyone.

“Luna is a suitable location, a point between Earth and Zeon.” General Revil nods as he considers the location, coming around easily to the idea, “Those who can be moved without force will be gathered in secret then, and sent there - to Von Braun, perhaps?”

That without force is reassuring, though you’d already assumed he was not sending his officers around to kidnap people from their families as Kycilia has done in the past. The Earth Sphere has no shortage of orphaned children in state care, or emancipated teens with little or no family left. More detail of what methods will be employed can happen on another day.
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“Either Von Braun or Granada,” You reply while looking at their locations on the projection of Luna, bright lights in wide craters, “Thousands of people could vanish into either, they’re good places to disappear, very safe. Easy to forget.”

“...You sound as if you speak from experience.” Revil’s a perceptive man, very little gets by him, but he doesn’t press further than that simple comment, “Von Braun is the larger, Granada is growing more quickly; either is acceptable to me, we have fleets stationed at both.”

Granada.” Vivima chooses, her eyes looking between you and Tryphosa now; Tryph nods. Granada is a good location, easy to access from Zeon and well established in industry and amenities. It’s a good place to live, nearly as fine as Zum; better than Zum recently, but the damage from the riots should be cleaned up quickly.

>”Granada is the better of the two, it’s a more neutral location, less involved in politics.” …And you know Zeon already has an invasion plan drawn up, the city is to be captured in the opening hours of a conflict. You’ve run that simulation several times yourself; any newtypes there would quickly be back under Zeon’s control - accessible to you - if a war breaks out. Any fight for the city will be quick and mostly bloodless, it simply is not a tenable defensive position for the Federation.
>”I would prefer Von Braun.” …You already have a home there, even if Kycilia has turned it into something of a spy nest ever since Elena moved to Zeonic’s factory banchi. It’s a city you know quite well, at least as well as Zum - you even know a few of its older secrets, like those tunnels that run all the way out of the city… They’re large enough for mobile suits to enter through, now that you think about it.

This choice will largely conclude Felix’s time on Luna II. Is there anything else you would like to do/discuss before moving on to Green Noa? Most things that have been mentioned (earth newtype included) will come up naturally later, so to some extent this is a pacing choice.
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>>6006782
>”Granada is the better of the two, it’s a more neutral location, less involved in politics.” …And you know Zeon already has an invasion plan drawn up, the city is to be captured in the opening hours of a conflict. You’ve run that simulation several times yourself; any newtypes there would quickly be back under Zeon’s control - accessible to you - if a war breaks out. Any fight for the city will be quick and mostly bloodless, it simply is not a tenable defensive position for the Federation.

>spoiler
>No need to discuss anything here.
I'm surprised the earth newtype was mentioned even though we didn't vote to take notice of it. Good to know that sometimes making a choice (or lack of it) doesn't have such bad ramifications and that 'missing' part of a vote doesn't necessarily mean it won't come up, I'll keep it in mind while we move forward.
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>>6006782
>”Granada is the better of the two, it’s a more neutral location, less involved in politics.” …And you know Zeon already has an invasion plan drawn up, the city is to be captured in the opening hours of a conflict. You’ve run that simulation several times yourself; any newtypes there would quickly be back under Zeon’s control - accessible to you - if a war breaks out. Any fight for the city will be quick and mostly bloodless, it simply is not a tenable defensive position for the Federation.
Mention the girl with green eyes.
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>>6006782
>”I would prefer Von Braun.” …You already have a home there, even if Kycilia has turned it into something of a spy nest ever since Elena moved to Zeonic’s factory banchi. It’s a city you know quite well, at least as well as Zum - you even know a few of its older secrets, like those tunnels that run all the way out of the city… They’re large enough for mobile suits to enter through, now that you think about it.


Second place is

>”Granada is the better of the two, it’s a more neutral location, less involved in politics.” …And you know Zeon already has an invasion plan drawn up, the city is to be captured in the opening hours of a conflict. You’ve run that simulation several times yourself; any newtypes there would quickly be back under Zeon’s control - accessible to you - if a war breaks out. Any fight for the city will be quick and mostly bloodless, it simply is not a tenable defensive position for the Federation.
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>>6006782
>”Granada is the better of the two, it’s a more neutral location, less involved in politics.” …And you know Zeon already has an invasion plan drawn up, the city is to be captured in the opening hours of a conflict. You’ve run that simulation several times yourself; any newtypes there would quickly be back under Zeon’s control - accessible to you - if a war breaks out. Any fight for the city will be quick and mostly bloodless, it simply is not a tenable defensive position for the Federation.
And I'll vote to discuss nothing else.

>>6006791
>I'm surprised the earth newtype was mentioned even though we didn't vote to take notice of it. Good to know that sometimes making a choice (or lack of it) doesn't have such bad ramifications and that 'missing' part of a vote doesn't necessarily mean it won't come up, I'll keep it in mind while we move forward.
Gotta agree here.
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>>6006782
>”I would prefer Von Braun.” …You already have a home there, even if Kycilia has turned it into something of a spy nest ever since Elena moved to Zeonic’s factory banchi. It’s a city you know quite well, at least as well as Zum - you even know a few of its older secrets, like those tunnels that run all the way out of the city… They’re large enough for mobile suits to enter through, now that you think about it.

Let's go for a place that'll be actually neutral, so the Federation doesn't immediately back off the deal when Granada is captured.
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>>6006782
>”I would prefer Von Braun.” …You already have a home there, even if Kycilia has turned it into something of a spy nest ever since Elena moved to Zeonic’s factory banchi. It’s a city you know quite well, at least as well as Zum - you even know a few of its older secrets, like those tunnels that run all the way out of the city… They’re large enough for mobile suits to enter through, now that you think about it.
And no talking for now.
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>>6006782
>>6006907
Changing my vote to
>”I would prefer Von Braun.” …You already have a home there, even if Kycilia has turned it into something of a spy nest ever since Elena moved to Zeonic’s factory banchi. It’s a city you know quite well, at least as well as Zum - you even know a few of its older secrets, like those tunnels that run all the way out of the city… They’re large enough for mobile suits to enter through, now that you think about it.
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>>6006782
>”I would prefer Von Braun.” …You already have a home there, even if Kycilia has turned it into something of a spy nest ever since Elena moved to Zeonic’s factory banchi. It’s a city you know quite well, at least as well as Zum - you even know a few of its older secrets, like those tunnels that run all the way out of the city… They’re large enough for mobile suits to enter through, now that you think about it.
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>>6006782
>”I would prefer Von Braun.” …You already have a home there, even if Kycilia has turned it into something of a spy nest ever since Elena moved to Zeonic’s factory banchi. It’s a city you know quite well, at least as well as Zum - you even know a few of its older secrets, like those tunnels that run all the way out of the city… They’re large enough for mobile suits to enter through, now that you think about it.
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>>6006782
Also no discussing more here, it's just a pacing choice.
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>>6006782
>”I would prefer Von Braun.” …You already have a home there, even if Kycilia has turned it into something of a spy nest ever since Elena moved to Zeonic’s factory banchi. It’s a city you know quite well, at least as well as Zum - you even know a few of its older secrets, like those tunnels that run all the way out of the city… They’re large enough for mobile suits to enter through, now that you think about it.
And we don't have to discuss or do stuff.
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>>6006782
>”I would prefer Von Braun.” …You already have a home there, even if Kycilia has turned it into something of a spy nest ever since Elena moved to Zeonic’s factory banchi. It’s a city you know quite well, at least as well as Zum - you even know a few of its older secrets, like those tunnels that run all the way out of the city… They’re large enough for mobile suits to enter through, now that you think about it.
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>>6006782
>”I would prefer Von Braun.” …You already have a home there, even if Kycilia has turned it into something of a spy nest ever since Elena moved to Zeonic’s factory banchi. It’s a city you know quite well, at least as well as Zum - you even know a few of its older secrets, like those tunnels that run all the way out of the city… They’re large enough for mobile suits to enter through, now that you think about it.
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>>6006791
>>6006840
Granada!

>>6006845
>>6006910
>>6006920
>>6006923
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>>6006930
>>6006954
>>6006999
>>6007012
Von Braun. Wins, writing.
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“I would prefer Von Braun,” You choose after a moment of consideration, weighing the differences between the two cities - in most ways they’re equivalent, quite fine places to live compared to much of the Earth Sphere, but you know Von Braun and it’s secrets far better than Granada. “It is a safe location, and large enough to go unnoticed by most, but still easily accessible - and difficult to turn into a prison.”

“...You fear it will become something darker.” Revil nods, of course understanding - the Federation is no stranger to concentration camps, several of their nastier wars against guerilla fighters across the Earth have seen the use of such tactics. Down there they are used to separate rural populations from those who have taken up arms, to force people into more tightly controlled cities - it is a heavy handed and inhuman way to handle the unhandleable. They’ve fallen out of use in recent years, but it isn’t difficult to imagine the Federation twisting this deal into a place to hold newtypes rather than maintaining it as an open sanctuary for them. Secrecy will help. If abuse is attempted, the war over the fate of newtypes will begin in the shadows.

“I do. It is hard not to, but I hope such a necessity will ever arise.” You confirm. Tryphosa’s fingers slipping between yours as you speak - she agrees with this pick, familiar enough with the city from her visits to your home there.

“On that we can agree.” It is a relief that Revil is an unusually good man to hold the rank that he does, a very unusual one indeed - you trust his word, “There are no objections then?”

“...Von Braun is also suitable.” Vivima sounds lost in thought, simply nodding along with the choice, “...The logistics of doing this in secret will be very difficult. General Revil, I will have a proposal ready implementation by… The first week of January. The details can be sorted through over the usual back channels, another meeting if it’s needed.”

Revil laughs for a moment, “I must say, seeing a plan implemented quickly is refreshing. Not enough of that around here, there are some days I feel like Sisyphus.”

“Industry has the same reluctance to agree on anything, it is like herding cats.” Vivima commiserates with the old general… as they speak, you gaze is drawn slowly to the tiny luminescent blip representing Side Seven within the dark of the orrery, a single light in the dark…
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>>6007161

07:20, 16th December UC 0077
Green Noa, Side Seven (Earth Federation)


Fresh air floods in through the crack in the lock ahead of you, the two titanium doors slowly parting to allow the yellow reflected light of early morning to filter into the small secondary hangars where you have docked on Green Noa. Looking out across the curved surface of the colony, you cannot help but be struck by the idyllic beauty of it - setting aside the unending ‘construction’ at its far end, Green Noa is the perfect picture of what a colony is meant to be. Lush and green forests and fields, flowing rivers, even rocky hills in some places rising to create a more interesting view. A perfect place to honeymoon, for those who aren’t interested in losing their life savings at a casino in Von Braun or who have no desire to go to a vacation colony and mix with and endless stream of other tourists… Of course you’re here to spy, not just see the sights and enjoy yourself, but those are necessarily mutually exclusive. It certainly excites Elena, and that’s enough on its own at times - and it’s good to keep her far, far from Gihren for now.

Beside you at the edge of the opening door, your wife Elena stands with you. She is dressed simply today, a green jacket and modest red skirt showing plainly that she’s already in something of a festive spirit, her hair worn long and with just the slightest wave to it, the wind already catching it as the gusts from the colony’s central habitation area blow gently past. You love it when her hair is worn down like this, silken red perfection - it reminds you of when you were here last with her, what a time you had together then. She’s even wearing her cinnamon perfume again; you’ll never associate the pleasant aroma with anyone else. As you look her over, she blushes slightly, still enjoying the attention even after years together. It’s the look you’ve given her that has her pale cheeks turning rosy.

“Stop that, Max, we just got here. …Wait until we get to the house at least.” She protests playfully- something about the excitement of being here together makes it come so easily, that familiar butterfly giddiness filling you as well. It’s good that you’re doing this together, you needed a break. Getting booted from the academy definitely wasn’t part of your plan for the future, but so long as you have your family - Elena, your children, your siblings and mother - it’s really only a slight hiccup.
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>>6007164

Who would ever suspect Elena to be a spy? Or you, in your…

Vote:
>Sunglasses and leather pilot’s jacket. You’re following the time honored Jones school of low effort disguises, it’ll be *fine*. No hair dye or contacts today. Even if you look a little familiar, who is foolish enough to think a son of Zeon Deikun would be wandering around Side Seven at a time like this? You’ll be using your old Earth name, Maxime Mass.
>Something more elaborate. (What exactly?)

Oh yeah, and Zammy is here too - can’t forget your loyal dog, what a good boy! Yes, that’s right, the best dog in the Earth Sphere. He deserves some pats and scratches, what a good dog!

Vivima and Tryphosa are arriving on a different ship with Izumi. Tiff, Rix, and Blare will be here in another days time. All of them are going to pose as students. Jones and Clamp are on the ship, extremely bored but nearby if something goes wrong - you can mostly ignore them.
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>>6007161
proposal ready for implementation*
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>>6007165

>Sunglasses and leather pilot’s jacket. You’re following the time honored Jones school of low effort disguises, it’ll be *fine*. No hair dye or contacts today. Even if you look a little familiar, who is foolish enough to think a son of Zeon Deikun would be wandering around Side Seven at a time like this? You’ll be using your old Earth name, Maxime Mass.
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>>6007165
>Courtesy of the Aznables, some authentic ranger wear from Texas Colony, cowboy hat included. With just a little bit of dye to make your blonde into dirty blonde you look like a proper rustic type.
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>>6007165
>Sunglasses and leather pilot’s jacket. You’re following the time honored Jones school of low effort disguises, it’ll be *fine*. No hair dye or contacts today. Even if you look a little familiar, who is foolish enough to think a son of Zeon Deikun would be wandering around Side Seven at a time like this? You’ll be using your old Earth name, Maxime Mass.
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>>6007165
>>6007293
+1
Does it come with tassels?
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>>6007170
>>6007364
Low effort Quattro Bajeena tier disguise.

>>6007293
>>6007768
BIG IRON

What'll it be, anons? Two more hours to decide.

>>6007768
Of course it does, and I'll even give Felix his revolvers as well - it would be a crime not to.He'll have a gun of some kind either way, not that they're likely to get used. Not that kind of trip, not that kind of spy stuff. Elena's armed too, as always.
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>>6007165
>>Courtesy of the Aznables, some authentic ranger wear from Texas Colony, cowboy hat included. With just a little bit of dye to make your blonde into dirty blonde you look like a proper rustic type.

Fuck it. Gimme my revolvers.
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>>6007768
>>6007920
>>6007293
Uncontainable yeehawery. Writing.
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Who would ever suspect Elena to be a spy? Or you, in your authentic ranger attire; it was a gift from the Aznables on account of how you and Casval have been ‘such good friends’ with Char. You haven’t had much of a chance to try it until now - It’s an excellent fit, real leather, durable denim, and just enough room to sneak your revolvers about. Twelve shots, twice as much as you’d need to kill anything that moves.

“The house it is then.” You reply to Elena with a grin, pulling her closer; this is going to be a good week, “...Zammy, come on.”

The big hound follows along behind as you make your way out into the colony, leaving the remote and often forgotten lock sealing shut behind you. It’s going to be a bit of a walk to where you need to get to, but the temperature is perfect, and you haven’t been on a simple stroll with Elena in far too long. The simple things in life should be cherished, and you intend to make the best of they time you have here, between anything more clandestine you choose to pursue.

Hours later, within the home you’re staying at.

Sitting down at the kitchen table, you gaze with adoration and unfathomable hunger at the enormous sandwiches you’ve prepared for yourself and Elena. Her hair is still a little messed up from earlier, but all in all you’ve both returned to a mostly presentable state after a thorough inspection of the master bedroom’s conditions. And the living room’s. And the… Well, your stamina’s a bit shot for now, and neither of you are the type to just lay around, so it’s time for lunch.

“...And Minovsky still claims he can get the secondary reactor working in sync with the primary, but I’m starting to have doubts.” Elena continues talking as she has been, mostly about her work at Zeonic - it gladdens you that she’s taken to it so well - and some of the issues Project K has continued to face, “Not that he can’t solve the problem, but that he’ll ever choose to. It’s really wearing on him, we try to… well, the other engineers, we try to make it better for him, but we’re not political prisoners, and that’s a hard gap to get across.”

“He likes you, that has to count for something. You think he’s stalling things out on purpose?” You ask after taking your first bite of your sandwich, trying to ignore Zammy’s stares from across the kitchen - that dog is too well trained to beg directly, but his eyes tell you everything you need to know, “That sounds like more of the same then, you’ve said so before. Is it getting worse still?”

“Yeah.” She sighs, “I think he might be planning to escape.”

You pause for a moment and look your wife in the eye, gauging her feeling on this - it’s clear enough that she’d like to help him, watching a great mind slowly self-destruct has to be awful for everyone involved, “...That would be a mess. He’d probably go to Anaheim.”
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>>6008183

“I think he’d probably retire.” Elena shakes her head and then takes a small bite, “...Or maybe go back to non-military work. He’s a bit rough around the edges sometimes but he isn’t spiteful, I think he’d just be glad to be out of Zeonic, and Anaheim would try to pump him for everything he’s learned. That would almost be as bad, they can get pretty draconian too.”

“You’re not planning to help him leave, right?”

“Too much of a risk,” She gives you a ‘come on now’ look, but it’s more sad than incredulous - of course she wouldn’t take that risk, it was just a prompt to keep going, “...For a lot of reasons. And I think it might be for the best if I keep out of Zeonic for a few weeks anyways, if Gihren is on the warpath. Are you sure we can’t just have Jones shoot him and say it was a Federation assassin?”

You nearly choke on your food, the very real suggestion taking you off guard - it isn’t the first time you’ve talked about offing the Zabis, but with the prevalence of bugs back in Zeon you’ve had little occasion to discuss it so bluntly. This house isn’t the one Kycilia thought you’d be staying at here, you’re confident it isn’t being monitored; you swept for bugs earlier anyways, shortly before jumping on one another.

“I think they’d figure it out.” You shake your head, wishing it could be that simple, “...Should’ve been more careful with what I told him, it was a mistake.”
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>>6008186

“You were trying to put on a show,” Elena shrugs, but you know it does bother her, all of this messiness with Vivima and Gihren. She’s taken it very well all things considered, your shared life was already rife with lurking Zabi shaped dangers, but this kind of focused attention has never really happened before. The closest were Kycilia’s threats when you first came to Zeon. “Sometimes mistakes are going to be made, we both knew it was going to get harder at some point. It’s okay… Just need to focus on what we can still control, and each other. We’ll make it through this. Speaking of which, we’ve gotten beam weapons working… uh, sort of. It was just last week, but we got it working with a backpack mounted reactor and improvements to the power conduits in the K’s firing arms. All the capacitors are still in the weapon, they’re too bulky, but we’re finally starting to scale things down…”

>”If the K’s secondary reactor got running, could it power the weapons without a backpack?” She’s shifting the subject away from the Zabis - and Vivima’s proposed plan - but that doesn’t need to be talked about. And beam weapons *are* important.
>”That’s good. Very good… But we really do need to talk through this Gihren business.” …That means discussing Vivima’s proposal as well. You know Elena trusts you completely, but you’re married now - you act together. It doesn’t have to happen right now, but it can’t wait forever.
>”Think the Federation is still ahead with their research? Never quite cracked that capacitor system in those design documents… They’re making mobile suits now as well, they’re not much more than guntanks with legs and thrusters though.” …The data recorder Vivima got at Luna II had information on more mobile suit research, some of which is happening *here*, on Side Seven.
>Write-in.
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>>6008200
1)
>”Think the Federation is still ahead with their research? Never quite cracked that capacitor system in those design documents… They’re making mobile suits now as well, they’re not much more than guntanks with legs and thrusters though.” …The data recorder Vivima got at Luna II had information on more mobile suit research, some of which is happening *here*, on Side Seven.
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>”That’s good. Very good… But we really do need to talk through this Gihren business.” …That means discussing Vivima’s proposal as well. You know Elena trusts you completely, but you’re married now - you act together. It doesn’t have to happen right now, but it can’t wait forever.
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>>6008200
1)
>”If the K’s secondary reactor got running, could it power the weapons without a backpack?” She’s shifting the subject away from the Zabis - and Vivima’s proposed plan - but that doesn’t need to be talked about. And beam weapons *are* important.

2)
>”That’s good. Very good… But we really do need to talk through this Gihren business.” …That means discussing Vivima’s proposal as well. You know Elena trusts you completely, but you’re married now - you act together. It doesn’t have to happen right now, but it can’t wait forever.

3)
>”Think the Federation is still ahead with their research? Never quite cracked that capacitor system in those design documents… They’re making mobile suits now as well, they’re not much more than guntanks with legs and thrusters though.” …The data recorder Vivima got at Luna II had information on more mobile suit research, some of which is happening *here*, on Side Seven.
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>>6008200
1)
>”If the K’s secondary reactor got running, could it power the weapons without a backpack?” She’s shifting the subject away from the Zabis - and Vivima’s proposed plan - but that doesn’t need to be talked about. And beam weapons *are* important.
>”Think the Federation is still ahead with their research? Never quite cracked that capacitor system in those design documents… They’re making mobile suits now as well, they’re not much more than guntanks with legs and thrusters though.” …The data recorder Vivima got at Luna II had information on more mobile suit research, some of which is happening *here*, on Side Seven.
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>”If the K’s secondary reactor got running, could it power the weapons without a backpack?” She’s shifting the subject away from the Zabis - and Vivima’s proposed plan - but that doesn’t need to be talked about. And beam weapons *are* important.
3)
>”Think the Federation is still ahead with their research? Never quite cracked that capacitor system in those design documents… They’re making mobile suits now as well, they’re not much more than guntanks with legs and thrusters though.” …The data recorder Vivima got at Luna II had information on more mobile suit research, some of which is happening *here*, on Side Seven.
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>>6008200
>>”That’s good. Very good… But we really do need to talk through this Gihren business.” …That means discussing Vivima’s proposal as well. You know Elena trusts you completely, but you’re married now - you act together. It doesn’t have to happen right now, but it can’t wait forever.
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>>6008200
1)
>”If the K’s secondary reactor got running, could it power the weapons without a backpack?” She’s shifting the subject away from the Zabis - and Vivima’s proposed plan - but that doesn’t need to be talked about. And beam weapons *are* important.
>”Think the Federation is still ahead with their research? Never quite cracked that capacitor system in those design documents… They’re making mobile suits now as well, they’re not much more than guntanks with legs and thrusters though.” …The data recorder Vivima got at Luna II had information on more mobile suit research, some of which is happening *here*, on Side Seven.
2)
>”If the K’s secondary reactor got running, could it power the weapons without a backpack?” She’s shifting the subject away from the Zabis - and Vivima’s proposed plan - but that doesn’t need to be talked about. And beam weapons *are* important.
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>>6008200

>”If the K’s secondary reactor got running, could it power the weapons without a backpack?” She’s shifting the subject away from the Zabis - and Vivima’s proposed plan - but that doesn’t need to be talked about. And beam weapons *are* important.

>”That’s good. Very good… But we really do need to talk through this Gihren business.” …That means discussing Vivima’s proposal as well. You know Elena trusts you completely, but you’re married now - you act together. It doesn’t have to happen right now, but it can’t wait forever.


Guys uniroically for the war. We NEED beam weapons. It's the only way to deal with Luna titanium of the Gundam outside of heat weapons.
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>>6008200
>”If the K’s secondary reactor got running, could it power the weapons without a backpack?” She’s shifting the subject away from the Zabis - and Vivima’s proposed plan - but that doesn’t need to be talked about. And beam weapons *are* important.
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>>6008200
>”Think the Federation is still ahead with their research? Never quite cracked that capacitor system in those design documents… They’re making mobile suits now as well, they’re not much more than guntanks with legs and thrusters though.” …The data recorder Vivima got at Luna II had information on more mobile suit research, some of which is happening *here*, on Side Seven.
I! NEED! PSYCHIC DETECTIVE!
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>>6008206
>>6008495
Research?

>>6008213 (Talk, Research)
>>6008377
>>6008404
>>6008220 (2nd)
>>6008290 (2nd)
Reactor. Wins, I'll start writing in the morning.

>>6008269
Talk
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“If the K’s secondary reactor got running, could it power the weapons without a backpack?” You question before taking another bite, your thoughts remaining firmly upon Project K.

Elena nods slightly but then sighs, as if she’s discussed this many times before with others - she probably has, “And then some, the K’s reactors are much higher output than a Zaku or even the newer Dom’s, and more compact…”

“Higher output and smaller?” You lift an eyebrow. You had known they were more compact, and higher output overall, but had assumed that meant when they were working together not even as individual reactors.

“Lighter weight too. In a year or two they’ll probably be the standard for high performance units, but right now… It’s finicky, even with everything Zeonic is throwing at it.” Elena shrugs before taking a moment to work on her smaller sandwich, Zammy still watching from the edge of the rented home’s white tiled kitchen floor. “Material science hasn’t caught up with what we need, the wear rates on the linings are extreme, containment is much harder. Minovsky thinks he can get them both working and synced properly still.”

“The whole idea of the K was to spur new development, right? That’s still a success in my eyes.” The chances an advanced testbed like the K ever gets put into any kind of production are vanishingly small, your time working with Vivima on streamlining Zaku production taught you plenty how difficult such a thing would be, but in a year or two perhaps there will be standard suits using some kind of beam weapon - that would be quite something. For now though your thoughts drift to the black and white paint scheme the Kampfer was clad in during your spontaneous wedding, the dark of space with the faint glimmer of stars - more decorative than utilitarian, and only half completed as it looked like a number of armor plates had been recently changed, “...And you’ve clearly been enjoying it. They let you do the paint job? It reminded me of the Mustang.”

“It was my suggestion, we had a few meetings on it. It wasn’t going to get applied but then Gil heard, and I’m sure he did it to suck up to you more.” Elena laughs richly, knowing the businessman as well as you do - he’s certainly trying to curry favor with anyone in power that he can, but at least he’s honest and direct about it - in some ways that makes you think better of him, but you know he’s quite the mercenary type if it really came down to it. Anyone so successful in business has to be… But he has at least some genuine loyalty to Zeon, so it’s hard to know for sure how he would react if pressed. You do still like him. “They had to strip some of it to rework the plating a few weeks ago so it wasn’t all matching for the ceremony.”
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>>6009580

“That figures for Gil, man has his priorities. Predictable at least, anything for greater favor.” You repeat your thoughts aloud but in short, and take a drink of water; it’s cool and refreshing, the flavor impeccable. Green Noa has an excellent filtration system.

“He’s not so bad really, once you get past the greed.” Elena agrees, “Maybe a little… soulless, but I don’t think he was always like that. I didn’t get to paint the K myself, some of the techs handled that but they still used my design. If it ever goes into production they’re planning on blue.”

“I do like blue.” It’s a surprise she’d even mention production.

“You do.” She grins knowingly, “But the colors won’t mean much if we don’t get the reactors working, or the frame to stop cracking under flight stresses, or… ugh, it really doesn’t end. The Luna Titanium is just about the only thing we’ve figured out, took months but some of the guys over in ship construction figured out what the Jovians were doing to make it into large plates and shape it. It’s helped some with the reactors too, but we could already use it for linings, smaller sections weren’t an issue.”

“...Ship construction?” Another surprise.

“They’re more conventionally minded, boring…” Her lips form a tight line, probably recalling some kind of frustrating conversation or another, “But as soon as they heard about the chance to improve armor on the Gwazines they started swarming. Dozle helped push some of the funding through for higher quantity production.”

“He does like his ships.” Not a surprise. You like them too of course, it's been a shared interest along with everything large and stompy, and liquor, and fencing... actually you share a lot of interests with him.

“Mobile armors too, he doesn’t do small.” Elena laughs again and you can’t help but join in, knowing the fondness your step-father has developed for the larger machines. Mobile armors are something you haven’t checked in on in awhile, but you know a standard space-type model won out a few months ago after Vivima’s competition came to an end.
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>>6009582

“No, he doesn’t.” You continue to laugh, making a note to ask Dozle about what monster of a mobile armor he’s planning to have made with so much of the precious alloy, “They’re going to armor a whole Gwazine in it? I figured something like that would be too expensive.”

“I haven’t seen the numbers,” Elena continues casually, still occasionally nibbling on her sandwich, “but they probably have enough zeros at the end to make Gil’s eyes pop out. Mink’s going to be one of the richest women in the Earth Sphere probably.”

“Mink?” Another surprise.

“Her family’s mining business has the rights to the asteroids with the best ore compositions for processing into Luna Titanium. It’s not my field, but it makes the process much easier than sourcing from somewhere else. There’s enough for most of Zeon’s needs for years. I think they’re planning to haul them into the same orbit as Axis for the factories out there too, but last we talked she wasn’t sure about the details yet.”

>”Enough for years? That’s amazing, it could revolutionize the whole fleet.” Mink’s always on about something, but when she talks about her family it’s only very rarely about their business. You know they were contracted for working on part of Axis as well, but they were just helping with some of the details on it, not the bulk of the work.
>”Beam weapons and luna titanium… Sometimes I wonder if the K is getting too much shoved into it, those two on their own would be enough to outperform anything in development.”
>”...Luna titanium won’t stop beam weapons on its own, will it?” It’s hard to imagine anything less than the thickness of a cruiser or battleship’s most armored sections surviving a beam strike. Luna Titanium might expand that protection to more locations across a ship, but it’s still a brute force solution even as advanced as the alloy is…
>Write-in.
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>>6009586
>”Enough for years? That’s amazing, it could revolutionize the whole fleet.” Mink’s always on about something, but when she talks about her family it’s only very rarely about their business. You know they were contracted for working on part of Axis as well, but they were just helping with some of the details on it, not the bulk of the work.
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>>6009586
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>”Enough for years? That’s amazing, it could revolutionize the whole fleet.” Mink’s always on about something, but when she talks about her family it’s only very rarely about their business. You know they were contracted for working on part of Axis as well, but they were just helping with some of the details on it, not the bulk of the work.
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>”...Luna titanium won’t stop beam weapons on its own, will it?” It’s hard to imagine anything less than the thickness of a cruiser or battleship’s most armored sections surviving a beam strike. Luna Titanium might expand that protection to more locations across a ship, but it’s still a brute force solution even as advanced as the alloy is…
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>>6009586
>”Enough for years? That’s amazing, it could revolutionize the whole fleet.” Mink’s always on about something, but when she talks about her family it’s only very rarely about their business. You know they were contracted for working on part of Axis as well, but they were just helping with some of the details on it, not the bulk of the work.
>”Beam weapons and luna titanium… Sometimes I wonder if the K is getting too much shoved into it, those two on their own would be enough to outperform anything in development.”

By the way Cont, how has the late war, rapid assault, minimally armored, beam-capable-but-only-has-a-saber, special forces MS that is the Kampfer ended up being made this early on as Zeon's very own Gundam analogue? Is this something from Origin? Or are you just a big Kampfer fan?
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>>6009646
Mostly because I think it is neat and wanted existing art, but also because of how absolutely bizarre the Kampfer already in canon (beam capable OYW suit that can outfly late war GMs? It's fucking Zeta era MS in disguise other than the paper armor and cockpit). Having the same engineers morph the idea into a technology testbed seemed fitting. There's a possibility a stripped down production version much more in line with the canon version ends up getting made eventually, sort of the same relationship the GM has to the Gundam.

Voting will be open all night at least.
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>>6009586
>”...Luna titanium won’t stop beam weapons on its own, will it?” It’s hard to imagine anything less than the thickness of a cruiser or battleship’s most armored sections surviving a beam strike. Luna Titanium might expand that protection to more locations across a ship, but it’s still a brute force solution even as advanced as the alloy is…
>>6009646
If we are already talking Kampfers then where does the Gelgoog fit into all this?
The Zak was the mainstay of the army, the Dom was designed to support beam weapons but those were under developed so the port to connect beam weapons was used for a dinky strobe laser. Beam weapons should be accompanying Doms in this verse by the time of the OYW. Are we gonna skip the based Goog with Kampfers?
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>>6009586
>>”Enough for years? That’s amazing, it could revolutionize the whole fleet.” Mink’s always on about something, but when she talks about her family it’s only very rarely about their business. You know they were contracted for working on part of Axis as well, but they were just helping with some of the details on it, not the bulk of the work.
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>>6009779
A ground effect mech is still going to be useful for ground combat so we might actually see a earth drop operation with doms and goufs.

Gelgoog is still vastly useful as a replacement mainstay mobile suit.
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>>6009586
>”Beam weapons and luna titanium… Sometimes I wonder if the K is getting too much shoved into it, those two on their own would be enough to outperform anything in development.”
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>>6009766
Wait have we skipped the Zaku line altogether then?
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>>6009969
Not really, no.

What we've skipped over is a large number of variants like early production MS-06C that the base zaku 2 we're producing is equivalent to the MS-06F2 standard (Post UMP).
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>>6009779
>Gelgoogs
It depends a lot on the circumstances of the war and production, but Gelgoogs are likely to still happen as an eventual Zaku II replacement, even with Zakus being better standardized and upgrades integrated across most of the fleet as they're rolled out (starting with something similar to the UMP helps immensely). As for the Dom, it is increasingly unlikely that Rick Doms will exist, so they're likely to remain ground types only, but if the production lines can be refit and they end up being capable of using beam weapons then we might still see a space variant. There's a chance it could also happen to throw Zimmad a bone, just to keep another design firm running. That role seems more likely to be filled by the last Zaku II variants though, but it's hard to say. With parts compatibility for a number of core systems producing a few different highly standardized MS isn't an industry killer at all, but Vivima has a pretty firm grip over MS procurement and really hates needlessly duplicative designs. She's planning to win a war, not sell toys. Goufs probably will not happen outside of maybe being a paint job and a close combat conversion kit for whatever Zakus end up being made into ground types, so it WILL be a Zaku, boy!

>>6009969
There are thousands of Zaku I and II's already produced, and many more to come. Pilot training is more of a bottleneck at the point, which is why Felix's efforts over in Riah have been very important. By the time the war starts there will be tens of thousands of Zaku II's and a fair number of heavily upgraded Zaku I's in Riah's fleet. Riah's working on mini-MS currently since they don't have the expertise to outcompete Zeonic or Zimmad, so some kind of 'I-can't-believe-it's-not-power-armor' Junior MS shenanigans are happening. The Riah soldiers serving in the Earth Attack Force will probably love having smaller dedicated support unit that can enter large buildings with them. If you remember the miniature MS in 0080 that Riah has it's those but not shit, they'll still get rolled by a proper MS but they're not meant to compete with them but instead complement them as a supporting unit. Might even get some BattleTech mobile armor shenanigans with them clinging to Doms to deploy into battle. A true Riah designed MS might happen eventually, but for now they are doing licensed production of Zeonic and Zimmad designs.

>>6009977
>MS-06F2 (Post UMP)
Yeah, and with a few swappable modules in the torso and better support for backpack variants. The same basic Zaku II's just needs small sub-system swaps to take on more specialized roles, so variants like the Zaku Cannon and Zaku Sniper also won't exist at all as their own thing - those are just backpacks and weapon systems with some extra targeting modules. Vulcans are more common too for cleaning up infantry and to not blast gigantic holes in colonies constantly.
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>>6009995
BattleTech battle armor*
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>>6009995
This is all downright sensible, so very much nothing like Zeon at all! Without Zakrellos, Bigros, Grublos, Zocks, Goggs, Acguys, Z'Goks and Zogoks, Gigans and Gyans, and all the weird and wonderful Zaku variants, can you even call this true Zeon?!
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>>6010023
As long as we have the classic core( Zakus, Doms, Googs) it is as Zeon as need be. Also i hate how canonically some minor variations are suddenly treated as a completely different MS.
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>>6009995
>Gouf
I see it as a possible commander variant. One specialised for counter MS operations much like how marine sargents are fitted with chainswords for the additional charge bonus.
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>>6010023
>Zakrellos
Not happening beyond the existing prototypes.
>Bigros
Currently being produced by MIP, they're the standard mobile armor for Zeon as of the quest's current point. Felix has never flown one.
>Grublos
Might happen depending on the needs of aquatic warfare.
>Goggs, Acguys, Z'Goks and Zogoks
See above, but probably standardizing around just one. Gotta keep some derpiness around or it REALLY isn't Zeon. There's a chance for Riah to pick up some MS that Zeon doesn't adapt, so lots of weird stuff might exist anyways.
>Gigans
They're working on the Xamel as the ground type mobile suit/armor (sort of falls inbetween) instead. Artillery and anti-air variants are being made. There is some debate going on over whether a big smashy mobile armor is needed as well, a proper monster, rather than just a speedy fire support platform that can travel fast alongside (though still slower than) Doms.
>Gyans
Might end up getting purchased by Riah instead of Gelgoogs, probably not though.

Here, I'll cover some more.
>Braw Bro
Very bulky psycommu systems has figured out so it is possble, but it probably won't be built.
>Elmeth
Psycommu tech just isn't there yet, probably doesn't exist as even a paper design. Might not ever exist depending on how Felix and Vivima's deal with Revil ends up being followed through on.
>Brawrello
Probably never happening.
>Adzam
Kycilia will never give up her ridiculous walking castle!
>Big Zam
"Once the Big Zam is mass produced we'll put an end to the Federation in no time!"
>Apsalus I/II/III
Probably dead.
>Zudah
Dead, not happening.
>Zeong
Maybe as a ridiculous replacement for Bigros? Probably not.
>Pezun Dowadge
Maybe another (probably failed) competitor for the Gelgoog and Gyan, or just a very late upgrade variant of Rick Doms if they end up existing.
>Galbaldy Alpha
Maybe in Riah? Makes more sense than the Gyan and would share Gelgoog parts so logistics with Zeon would be less of a pain in the ass.
>Kampfer
Might remain a single or small group of testbeds used to push development of other MS. A mass production type with improved armor might be a competitor against the Gelgoog/Gyan/Galbaldy, but that's too far off to say.
>Val Walo
Much more likely than the Zeong to replace the Bigro as the standard MA.
>Agg
It will see life as a mobile worker variant for asteroid mining. I love this wonky thing, it gets to do its part for Zeon.
>various Psycommu Zakus
Probably not.
>Psycho Zaku
No Thunderbolt shit mostly..
>Act Zaku
Maybe the Zaku's final form, there are limits to upgradeability and it might be a bit beyond what is feasible under Vivima's not!UMP.

If there's anything else I missed, feel free to ask. I'm sure there are some other MS-V designs or things from games/manga hiding somewhere that I missed (other than the endless Zaku variants).
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>>6010089
>act zaku
David Lister, yea/nah.
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>>6009586
>”Enough for years? That’s amazing, it could revolutionize the whole fleet.” Mink’s always on about something, but when she talks about her family it’s only very rarely about their business. You know they were contracted for working on part of Axis as well, but they were just helping with some of the details on it, not the bulk of the work.
>”...Luna titanium won’t stop beam weapons on its own, will it?” It’s hard to imagine anything less than the thickness of a cruiser or battleship’s most armored sections surviving a beam strike. Luna Titanium might expand that protection to more locations across a ship, but it’s still a brute force solution even as advanced as the alloy is…
2)
>”Enough for years? That’s amazing, it could revolutionize the whole fleet.” Mink’s always on about something, but when she talks about her family it’s only very rarely about their business. You know they were contracted for working on part of Axis as well, but they were just helping with some of the details on it, not the bulk of the work.
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>>6010090
Nah. At the absolute most a brief cheeky reference, but it would be in name only.
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>>6010089
>No Zeong
I cry, I love the completed Zeong. It's such an absurd monster, y'know? What about combining its aesthetic with the idea of a big smashy mobile armor you mentioned alongside the Xamel?
>Agg
Based Agg Appreciator
>No Thunderbolt shit
BASED I honestly cannot stand the Thunderbolt designs. Whichever you picked out I hope its not something carrying a dozen shields or those ridiculous looking Acguys.
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>>6010104
>big smashy completed Zeong
Now there's an idea worthy of a son of Zeon Deikun! Jaburo won't stand a chance. Or a Big Zam ground type could do the trick...
>Thunderbolt
It's just a few very little things here and there, none of the MS designs and certainly none of the jank ass world building. I try to ignore Thunderbolt so much that I forget it even exists sometimes. I'm just glad it's an alternate UC instead of shitting up the already fairly messy (though often a fun kind of messy) original timeline.
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>>6010089
I can't believe you believe there is a limit to the Zaku line.


>Big Zam
"Once the Big Zam is mass produced we'll put an end to the Federation in no time!"

Dozel, Our Father in Law! Roll out the Big Zam's, Don't you DARE edge us.
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>>6009586
1)
>”Enough for years? That’s amazing, it could revolutionize the whole fleet.” Mink’s always on about something, but when she talks about her family it’s only very rarely about their business. You know they were contracted for working on part of Axis as well, but they were just helping with some of the details on it, not the bulk of the work.
2)
>”...Luna titanium won’t stop beam weapons on its own, will it?” It’s hard to imagine anything less than the thickness of a cruiser or battleship’s most armored sections surviving a beam strike. Luna Titanium might expand that protection to more locations across a ship, but it’s still a brute force solution even as advanced as the alloy is…
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>>6009623
>>6009630
>>6009808
>>6010232
>>6010099 (2nd)
Years? Wins, writing.

>>6009646
Years+Luna Titanium

>>6009779
Luna Titanium

>>6009951
Too much in the K
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Does a bloodless rebellion mean that the OYW will have a WMD exchange at the beginning since nobody learned a lesson about escalation during the rebellion?
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>>6009995
>so variants like the Zaku Cannon and Zaku Sniper also won't exist at all

What about the barbus.
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>>6010761
You should have been asking Garma more about HIS plans for mobile suits, you fool! Vivima was merely a distraction from the rise of the REAL newtypes!
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“Enough for years? That’s amazing, it could revolutionize the whole fleet.” You set your sandwich down on its plate, and consider the possibilities of what that much Luna titanium could do. There’s already enough for reactor linings and small plates for other specialized purposes, for instance I-field generators sometimes use it as well.

“Like I said, she’s going to be rich rich, Felix. The Lillinkily's already have money, but in a few years they’re going to be one of the most important families in Zeon. The facilities to process that much ore into Luna titanium still need to be built up, and getting the right alloy composition and grain structures in large plates is harder than getting Glemy to stop pretending to be a mobile suit…” Elena furrows her brow a bit as she joins in your silent consideration of what all can be done with the material, “...It’s probably going to still be awhile before things are scaled up to make more use of it than we already are, I wouldn’t expect Luna titanium armored Musai’s anytime soon, or upgrades to Mobile Suit armor. Maybe small sections of armor could be done though? Around the cockpit and reactor exteriors…”

“That could save a lot of lives if it gave enough protection, more cost effective than armoring the whole unit as well. I think I’ll float that by Gil next time we see him, maybe push things along. Maybe on some of the Zaku shoulder shields as well, for assault units. We should probably run some damage studies on remote operated ones, fly them against Federation point defense guns and see what hits are the most fatal.”

It’s quite convenient that Zeon’s self-defense force has a number of Federation point defense systems, most are older types but with how mercenary military industry can be, at least behind closed doors, it shouldn’t be too much of a struggle to acquire a few examples of even their more modern systems.

“...Sounds expensive, but worth it.” Elena nods, “They already do survivability tests, but a larger study could help. Got to look after the pilots. Not everyone sees it that way unfortunately, do you think Vivima would support it? People act like she’s a dragon that’ll come to eat their projects, it’d be funny if it wasn’t almost true.”
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>>6011324

…Talking about Viv but not the proposal, alright. Sure, why not? “She’s just practically minded, but I think she’ll see the need to prioritize pilot survivability. We just don’t have the manpower the Federation does, and even with better Mobile Suits and ships they can certainly outproduce us if it came to that, even with everything we’ve streamlined.”

“Anaheim’s nearly got more factories in Von Braun alone than Zeonic does across Side Three… What did you think of their Mobile Suits?”

“The Guncannons? Flying coffins, the Balls as well, but for different reasons. Of the two I’d expect the Balls to be more dangerous, the Guncannons seemed too clumsy even though they could be more heavily armed.”

“Maybe they’ll give all of them heat claws and you’ll be reliving that whole ball boy thing but from the other side.” Elena smirks at the thought of the familiar story, pinching at the air with both hands to mime a kind of crab pincer. She’s heard the tale from you and plenty of others over the years, but if the stories from some people are to be believed you chopped the leg entirely off of Blanche’s mobile suit with only a light plasma torch. It’s ridiculous but you don’t mind, it works well with everyone seeming to think you’re more of a cowboy than you actually are.

You laugh for a moment and shake your head, “May as well give them a big harpoon gun like in those cartoons Glemy watches, the kind of thing that Captain Zeon gets shot at with.”

“Or maybe one of those spinning… medieval… flails? I think it’s a flail.” Elena spins one hand about and you laugh more, the image of a ball or mobile suit wielding a flail just a bit too far beyond what you find plausible. Vivima might’ve approved electro-whip production and some other strange melee weapons, but a flail? Nah, never. WARNING! YOU ARE IN RANGE OF AN ENEMY GUNDAM HAMMER!

“Pff, yeah, and a sword made out of M-particles. Why shoot a ship when you can cut it.” You joke along, but then squint, a chill running down the back of your neck - a premonition, or maybe a vision, “...Actually, could that work?”
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>>6011327

“What, a beam… sword?” The corner of her mouth wrinkles up as she considers the odd idea.

“Saber.” You flash a wolfish grin, the idea growing more appealing in your mind with each passing second, “Feels more fitting.”

“A beam saber?...” She continues to think on the idea, but you can see the look in her eyes - she’s not imagining the saber itself so much as you using it, her focus on engineering is enthusiastic but so very different than that of other’s you’ve met, like her friend Nina or the designers as Zeonic; Elena thinks of people first, “It would need to be contained with an I-field, and it would still have the same energy issues that ranged beam weapons do… But in theory there’s nothing stopping it from working, the I-fields would even repel one another so if you held two of them together they wouldn’t pass through one another.”

“Mm, I-fields and a high reactor output. Maybe it’s as ridiculous as it sounds then,” You still can’t help but shake something oddly familiar about the idea though - have you heard someone mention it before? You can’t recall, and turn your attention back to the far greater certainty of your sandwich - sometimes a mystery should be left for another time.

Of course you’ve come to Side Seven for far more than just discussing the horizons of Mobile Suit development, as interesting as it can be. While you’re here for both espionage and a kind of impromptu vacation now turned into an odd honeymoon, your plan is to focus more upon…

>The spy work that needs to be done. A bit of snooping went a long way the last time your were here, mostly thanks to Elena befriending so many people. Now that the Federation is working on their own Mobile Suits the clock is really ticking. It may be quite dangerous, but considering you past presence here and success with the locals you’re positioned far better than most to see this job is done right.

>You’re planning about an even split between relaxing and trying to learn more about the Federation’s research happening in the secure section of the colony, amusingly *still* pretending to be under construction. It doesn’t take that long to finish a colony’s interior unless funding is cut, surely the locals must have heard things by now.

>There will still be some spy work, but you’re a political figure and aren’t going to risk as much as you could while here - even if your disguise holds up for a while, if you get captured then the Federation will very likely discover who you are, and that’s just a giant mess diplomatically. More time to relax with friends sounds great too, you’ve barely gotten the chance before.
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>>6011328
>The spy work that needs to be done. A bit of snooping went a long way the last time your were here, mostly thanks to Elena befriending so many people. Now that the Federation is working on their own Mobile Suits the clock is really ticking. It may be quite dangerous, but considering you past presence here and success with the locals you’re positioned far better than most to see this job is done right.
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>>6011328
>The spy work that needs to be done. A bit of snooping went a long way the last time your were here, mostly thanks to Elena befriending so many people. Now that the Federation is working on their own Mobile Suits the clock is really ticking. It may be quite dangerous, but considering you past presence here and success with the locals you’re positioned far better than most to see this job is done right.
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>>6011328
>The spy work that needs to be done. A bit of snooping went a long way the last time your were here, mostly thanks to Elena befriending so many people. Now that the Federation is working on their own Mobile Suits the clock is really ticking. It may be quite dangerous, but considering you past presence here and success with the locals you’re positioned far better than most to see this job is done right.
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>>6011328
Future is real, and full of increasingly strangely shaped beam sabers.

>The spy work that needs to be done. A bit of snooping went a long way the last time your were here, mostly thanks to Elena befriending so many people. Now that the Federation is working on their own Mobile Suits the clock is really ticking. It may be quite dangerous, but considering you past presence here and success with the locals you’re positioned far better than most to see this job is done right.
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>>6011328
>The spy work that needs to be done. A bit of snooping went a long way the last time your were here, mostly thanks to Elena befriending so many people. Now that the Federation is working on their own Mobile Suits the clock is really ticking. It may be quite dangerous, but considering you past presence here and success with the locals you’re positioned far better than most to see this job is done right.
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>>6011328
>The spy work that needs to be done. A bit of snooping went a long way the last time your were here, mostly thanks to Elena befriending so many people. Now that the Federation is working on their own Mobile Suits the clock is really ticking. It may be quite dangerous, but considering you past presence here and success with the locals you’re positioned far better than most to see this job is done right.
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>>6011328
>>The spy work that needs to be done. A bit of snooping went a long way the last time your were here, mostly thanks to Elena befriending so many people. Now that the Federation is working on their own Mobile Suits the clock is really ticking. It may be quite dangerous, but considering you past presence here and success with the locals you’re positioned far better than most to see this job is done right.
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>>6011329
>>6011335
>>6011370
>>6011492
>>6011503
>>6011547
>>6011724
Focusing on the spy stuff, writing.
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>>6011328
>You’re planning about an even split between relaxing and trying to learn more about the Federation’s research happening in the secure section of the colony, amusingly *still* pretending to be under construction. It doesn’t take that long to finish a colony’s interior unless funding is cut, surely the locals must have heard things by now.
Call me a fence sitter but I know we can do both.
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018:20, 17th December UC 0077
Green Noa, Side Seven (Earth Federation)


The light from the great reflectors has already begun to dim, starting the crawling hours-long process of casting Green Noa into dusk and then finally artificial night. Stretching out before you, the wrapping greens and blues of the idyllic colony go on for many kilometers across its massive and curved cylindrical interior. Splashes of grey and pastel colors mark the locations of small towns, residential blocks and shops intermingled, schools and businesses, warehouses - everything a thriving community of many tens of thousands needs to live in relative comfort, and still plenty of land available to expand out into. Roads cut through the partially managed forests and landscape between settlements, and when few white puffy clouds along the colony’s central axis clear from view, you can even make out the tiny silhouettes of cars speeding along on the opposite land sections.

Wind gusts through your hair as your convertible red elecar speeds along a small road in the remote areas of Noa. Elena rides shotgun, her hair pinned up but stray strands still caught in the air, and your cowboy hat rests in her lap. Vivima and Tryphosa, who arrived yesterday in the evening, ride in the two rear seats, each disguised with dyed hair and the mundane clothes - to any who did not know them well, they look no different from any pair of teenage girls off on a remote vacation together for perhaps the first time. Further behind you in a blue elecar, Tiff, Blare, Rix, and Izumi are all together; they are disguised only with civilian clothes and some makeup to cover the lingering bruises on Tiff and Rix’s faces gained during their brawl with Dozle. Your academy friends only arrived a couple of hours ago, their few bags already dropped off at the house they will be staying at, quite near the one you and Elena are sharing.
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>>6012290

You’re not here for just a vacation and enjoying time with your new wife and friends, there is espionage to be carried out, and after consulting with Elena, Vivima, and all the others you have decided to…

Choose one, do not combine options. Ranking preferences is still fine.
>Head directly to the unobserved edges of the ‘construction area’, intending to split up and snoop about the outskirts of the disguised Federation research area to look for possible entrances. Elena knew of a few potential places from when she was here last, but never had the chance to explore them safely. You’re all well trained soldiers except for Elena (and Tryphosa sort of), you know how to keep hidden and scout an enemy position while minimizing risks.

>Head out for a meal in an area many of the Federation engineers used to frequent, hoping to make contact with some of them Elena knows from her internship. It might be useful to judge the state of things, maybe you can get one talking more than they should. It’s not a bad way to make your (disguised) presence known. Maybe someone can rifle around through one of their cars while they're distracted.

>You’re heading out to meet up with Kai Shiden and some of his troublemaker friends. They’re clueless as to your real intentions beyond wanting to snoop around the Federation a bit more (like last time), and might be useful pawns. Local knowledge is valuable, and they might prove a good distraction or be able to do low risk and low responsibility jobs that can afford some immature sloppiness. If you’re caught, being labeled as delinquents in over your head rather than *spies* could be helpful to avoid truly close scrutiny.

>Write-in. (How would you like to begin your week of espionage?)

Zammy is at the house on guard duty.
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>>6012292
>Head directly to the unobserved edges of the ‘construction area’, intending to split up and snoop about the outskirts of the disguised Federation research area to look for possible entrances. Elena knew of a few potential places from when she was here last, but never had the chance to explore them safely. You’re all well trained soldiers except for Elena (and Tryphosa sort of), you know how to keep hidden and scout an enemy position while minimizing risks.

The other two more directly risk exposing our identities.
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>>6012292
>Head directly to the unobserved edges of the ‘construction area’, intending to split up and snoop about the outskirts of the disguised Federation research area to look for possible entrances. Elena knew of a few potential places from when she was here last, but never had the chance to explore them safely. You’re all well trained soldiers except for Elena (and Tryphosa sort of), you know how to keep hidden and scout an enemy position while minimizing risks.

>...and once you've had a look around, test their alarm response. Chuck a baseball through a window or past a motion sensor, etc.
Lets probe their defenses, real gentle-like, see what they've got up their sleeve.
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>>6012292
>Head directly to the unobserved edges of the ‘construction area’, intending to split up and snoop about the outskirts of the disguised Federation research area to look for possible entrances. Elena knew of a few potential places from when she was here last, but never had the chance to explore them safely. You’re all well trained soldiers except for Elena (and Tryphosa sort of), you know how to keep hidden and scout an enemy position while minimizing risks.
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>>6012292
>Head directly to the unobserved edges of the ‘construction area’, intending to split up and snoop about the outskirts of the disguised Federation research area to look for possible entrances. Elena knew of a few potential places from when she was here last, but never had the chance to explore them safely. You’re all well trained soldiers except for Elena (and Tryphosa sort of), you know how to keep hidden and scout an enemy position while minimizing risks.
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>>6012292
>You’re heading out to meet up with Kai Shiden and some of his troublemaker friends. They’re clueless as to your real intentions beyond wanting to snoop around the Federation a bit more (like last time), and might be useful pawns. Local knowledge is valuable, and they might prove a good distraction or be able to do low risk and low responsibility jobs that can afford some immature sloppiness. If you’re caught, being labeled as delinquents in over your head rather than *spies* could be helpful to avoid truly close scrutiny.
This likely isn't the last time Kai will unknowingly work with spies from Zeon.
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>>6012292
1)
>Head out for a meal in an area many of the Federation engineers used to frequent, hoping to make contact with some of them Elena knows from her internship. It might be useful to judge the state of things, maybe you can get one talking more than they should. It’s not a bad way to make your (disguised) presence known. Maybe someone can rifle around through one of their cars while they're distracted.
2)
>You’re heading out to meet up with Kai Shiden and some of his troublemaker friends. They’re clueless as to your real intentions beyond wanting to snoop around the Federation a bit more (like last time), and might be useful pawns. Local knowledge is valuable, and they might prove a good distraction or be able to do low risk and low responsibility jobs that can afford some immature sloppiness. If you’re caught, being labeled as delinquents in over your head rather than *spies* could be helpful to avoid truly close scrutiny.
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>>6012292
>You’re heading out to meet up with Kai Shiden and some of his troublemaker friends. They’re clueless as to your real intentions beyond wanting to snoop around the Federation a bit more (like last time), and might be useful pawns. Local knowledge is valuable, and they might prove a good distraction or be able to do low risk and low responsibility jobs that can afford some immature sloppiness. If you’re caught, being labeled as delinquents in over your head rather than *spies* could be helpful to avoid truly close scrutiny.
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>>6012292
>>6012410
+1
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>>6012295
>>6012330
>>6012344
>>6012302
Probe

>>6012348 I'm sure working with Zeon spies will never end in tragedy for him.
>>6012410 (2nd)
>>6012421
>>6012435 (2nd)
Kai

We've got a tie, I'll give voting two more hours.
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>>6012292
>You’re heading out to meet up with Kai Shiden and some of his troublemaker friends. They’re clueless as to your real intentions beyond wanting to snoop around the Federation a bit more (like last time), and might be useful pawns. Local knowledge is valuable, and they might prove a good distraction or be able to do low risk and low responsibility jobs that can afford some immature sloppiness. If you’re caught, being labeled as delinquents in over your head rather than *spies* could be helpful to avoid truly close scrutiny.
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>>6012517
>>6012348
>>6012410 (2nd)
>>6012421
>>6012435 (2nd)
Kai. Wins, writing. I think I'll be moving the thread to a stopping point soon since we're on page nine, might have a short break before starting the next one.
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Nice, looking forward to it Contolist. Been a great thread as always.
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The next story post will probably be the stopping point for the thread, not just moving toward it. We can pick up with risky espionage next time.

>>6012682
Thanks, anon.
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Archiving the thread, still going to get that last update out though.

Any interest in using an actual system for mobile suit combat instead of it being purely narrative?
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>>6016409
>spoiler
I personally wouldn't be against having an actual system.
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>>6016409
Will there be much command of troops/management/wargames if it comes to it?
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>>6016409
That depends on what type of 'battle field' it is gonna end up being.
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>>6016409
I think it depends on the context. We're a trained MS pilot and an in training new type. Against limited quantities of mooks probably not, but named characters and genuine threats I don't see a problem with it.
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>>6016453
Command of troops would be limited, it isn't a squad micromanagement simulator, but to the extent orders can be given and generally followed there would be some element of command to it. I'd expect it to rarely ever be more than three or four other pilots working closely with Felix even when more are around and nominally under his command. I am less interested in creating a strict mechanical system for management (in fact I don't have one), and I think management is best dealt with narratively. The combat system I have currently is mostly for wargaming mobile suit (space) battles out, but I don't think I'd want to actually slow things down quite to the turn-by-turn level since it would be too slow for /qst/ and might drag combats out a longer than is narratively satisfying. Votes would still be for general narrative intent but with the fun of occasional meaningful dice rolls and having a more concrete idea of what choices are doing 'behind the scenes' so to speak, as well as giving some very concrete numbers to discuss around mobile suits.

>>6016524
>what kind of battlefield
The last one free of Earthnoidism! SPACE! Ground, colony, and asteroid combat are also supported. The focus of the system is on mobile suits but it can handle conventional ground and air vehicles, poor bloody infantry, space fighters, balls, mobile armor, ships of any size, and pretty much anything that could be relevant in a mobile suit battle.

>>6016525
I don't have much interest in riskless filler fights, no need to worry about that.
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>>6016602
So there wont be any 'combat progression' like 'take x territories, each defended by their own unique colonel' or 'destroy 30% of attacking forces to force retreat while managing defenses'?
>ships of any size
How do capital ships feature in combat?
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>>6016602
I'm game. What system did you steal for this?
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>>6016673
>combat progression
There is a three dimensional hex map that combat takes place on. The system covers tactical engagements and can scale up to moderately sized battles before it begins to need to be abstracted.
>take X territories
More of a strategic concern, I suppose something like that could also be implemented but those kind of objectives are probably best kept narrative instead of directly turned into a game.
>destroy X % of enemy to force retreat while manage defenses
Often enemies will retreat on their own to preserve their lives due to how ammunition and the fuel system work. Most fights do not end is decisive destruction of one side or another unless the strategic situation has forced such a battle (say something like A Baoa Qu or Solomon), or you're dealing with fanatics that don't care at all about RTBing (also A Baoa Qu or Solomon).
>Capital ships
Considering mobile suits are usually launching from them or at them, they're often a defense or attack target. They're tough but very vulnerable to a properly equipped MS that can get past their screens and guns. This is not a naval combat sim, but they will often be shooting at other ships (your ship, probably, very far off) or asteroid bases, or you if there really isn't a better target.

>>6016674
>what system
Honestly it doesn't resemble much of anything else at this point.
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I'm not going to be able to get the last story post out in the next few days, the thread is going to just have to stop with the last vote. It's about a good a place as the post would've been, I'll just write things so it leads directly into espionage shenaniganry anyways.

Thank you for playing, anons. Hopefully the next thread will be up in a few weeks. It'll probably reuse older OP art again so keep an eye out for Tryphosa in a bunny suit or something.

I was going to write the update this weekend by I've been caught up in celebrations since my brother got married six months ago(!) without telling anyone and our half of the family just found out yesterday.
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>>6017984
Hype, and thanks for running + coming back boss. Will look forward too it.

Congrats? To him, Also the Womb tattoo got me unwise every time I see it.
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>>6017984
Thanks for running Contolist, and don't forget to advertise in QTG when it comes back. And congratulations on the new family.
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>>6017984
Cheers for the run, we're all glad to have you back Cont. Looking forward to the next.

And good luck with that family drama, sounds pretty wack.
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>>6016409
I'd like an actual system.

>>6017984
See ya later Contolist.
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>>6018836
YOUR WISH HAS BEEN GRANTED!
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Canon timeline Zaku I. This doesn't have module slots or other changes Vivima had made to them.
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>>6018913
SIEG ZEON!

We are so gonna fucking die.
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>>6018913
based?
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>>6018913
No specs for shield?
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>>6019046
It's the bare Zaku I, not one with the shield, not every weapon was included either. A shield would be in 'Misc. Equipment' when a mobile suit has one. They function as both locational armor and a method of defense, and have their own HP pool separate from the limb they're attached to. They're also useful on the attack, you can absolutely bash/check other suits and shake their pilot into unconsciousness even if you can't penetrate the armor.
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>>6019096
Sorry, slight correction, it would be in 'Auxiliary Items'*.That bit up in the top right.
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Lookin' good. Almost reminds me of Battletech paper dolls.



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