>>6009849

The warp-quake detection drones will have to do, but for now, the immediate threat before you.

Smaller, with over-sized engines burning bright in the void, orkoid vessels dash ahead as usual with the greenskins. The potential of battle already having destroyed what modicum of discipline the crude beasts may have possessed after their internal fight. Had you faced a smarter foe, you may have been far more worried, the space stations and platforms that you had set up were just quickly thrown together due to the lack of resources and time, should someone concerned with more than getting quicker into the fight were to attack, they would have spread out and forced your attention to be split. Perhaps it would not have overwhelmed you, but some of your production stations could have been damaged or destroyed with you having no means of opposing them.

But now ?

The first orkish vessel collapses as the defensive platforms unleash small, but consistent and controlled fire. Then the second, and the third, finally the fourth. Undeterred however, the orks continue their advance. Soon enough, your area is filled with inaccurate oversized shells fired by the orkish armada, most miss, some that hit are absorbed by the shields of the various platforms, a few manage to overwhelm the shields and impact the armour, and unfortunately, a couple penetrate, blasting away the fragile platforms with they overstuffed charges. This was not in your calculations, but no matter, you shall simply readjust. Besides, the entirety of the vanguard, if you could call it that, was already wiped out.

All the while, as the void battle enters its sixth hour since the first fired shot, you begin your initial deployment of warp-quake detecting drones, a few thousand of them in drop pods, you do not have the luxury of a slower means of deployment.

With the entire defence network under you control, you begin firing blackholes at extreme range whilst small, the density and mass of them shift and change the gravity, lurching orkish vessels into one direction or another. While a direct shot could easily kill a ship, by employing them in such a manner, you coordinate for all defensive installations to fie at once to coincide with the blackholes, thus creating killing grounds where all at once a dozen ships are battered and destroyed, the crude reactors cooking off and spreading out even more damage.

Yet the assault continues and you are now for the first time put under fire, beforehand you were able to simply manoeuvre out of the way, but first pricks of damage impact your shielding. Due to your presence amongst the installations, the overall impact of the damage in negligible, a few installations went down, but comparing the amount of firepower unleashed, the vanguard more than anything caused far more destruction.

Warning: warp-quake detected.

>>6009850

You instantly switch the camera feed to regard the battle upon the worlds, while still coordinating the void defence all the meanwhile.

In an instant, ten figures, clearly Eldar in style, but with far too large backs, and far too large weapons appear before a forwards squad of the O.D.D. Shockingly, the teleportation was so accurate that the Eldar managed to pass straight through the couple of battalions worth of robots and drones guarding the few dozen men.

The Eldar are first to strike, the mononuclear wire rips into the soldiers, specifically targeting the lieutenant in charge. The energy shields halt the first shots, but the sheer intensity of fire eventually sees the shield breaks, the armour underneath lasts a couple of seconds more before it too is cut through a molecular level. In a span of six or so seconds, a dozen O.D.D. lay dead.

In vengeance however, your forces, having been warned strike back. The first kill comes from one of the soldiers, thanks to his enhanced genetics, is able to react and raise his rifle. With a controlled burst the first shot blows out the side of an Eldar, the second punctures straight through the stomach area blowing out internal organs and turning them to pulp, the third shot, aimed slightly higher up strikes the chest, destroying the device and guaranteeing death.

A second soldier manages to dodge the incoming powerblade, oddly enough only equipped by one of the Eldar teleporters, while the second blade manages to pierce the soldier’s chest, the wound is not immediately deadly, and that was the Eldar’s last mistake as whilst spitting blood, the monomolecular edged combat knife slams straight into one of the eye visors, spewing forth blood as the knife is pushed further until it’s hilt is slams into the head proper. Eventually the soldier collapses from his wound, but his life vitals appear to be stable as the olympian armour tries to keep its wearer alive.

Another Eldar is luckier as the shots against him go wide, but the explosion around his feet propels him outwards as a grenade is thrown out, simply not having enough time to teleport itself, it blows off the Eldar’s feet, but as he flies in the air, you see as shimmering engulfs him alongside the remainder of his comrades, but before he can fully teleport, a stray shot impacts his back moments before he teleports. The figure in those mere moments thrashes around more than even when he lost his feet, before all of the Eldar figures, bar the two dead, disappear. Leaving nearly two dozen of your own O.D.D. dead in turn.

>>6009852

Monitoring warp-quake movement. Distance teleported approximated at 100 meters. Warning: warp-quakes detected in close by surroundings. Query: orders ?

>Full pursuit. Everything in the area that can be spared will be. You shall track down every single quake and exterminate these pests.

>The quakes could just be a distraction, simply pursue the retreating four Eldar. Though curiously your drones only report 3 warp-quakes.

>Coordinates locked in. You shall delete them from ever having existed. Every signal will be nothing but a smoking crater a minute from now.

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>>6009853
>>Coordinates locked in. You shall delete them from ever having existed. Every signal will be nothing but a smoking crater a minute from now.

I missed you Newb

>>6009859

>I missed you Newb

Missed all of you as well, anons. Now, let the autism flow, the main reason why I am doing all of this on 4chan.

>>6009853
>The quakes could just be a distraction, simply pursue the retreating four Eldar. Though curiously your drones only report 3 warp-quakes.
I was just thinking about this quest, nice to have you back.

>>6009853
>Coordinates locked in. You shall delete them from ever having existed. Every signal will be nothing but a smoking crater a minute from now.
The 3 warp-quakes could be additional Eldar trying to cover their retreat. In any case, we need to disperse our men among the robots and drones so the robots can guard our soldiers better.

>>6009853
>Coordinates locked in. You shall delete them from ever having existed. Every signal will be nothing but a smoking crater a minute from now.
Don't fuck with Abominable Intelligences from the Dark Age, knife ears.

>>6009853
>Coordinates locked in. You shall delete them from ever having existed. Every signal will be nothing but a smoking crater a minute from now.

>>6009926
Seems like a good idea, would the robots being closer change a lot tough?

>>6009946
We lost two dozens of men because they were bunched up in one group, making them an obvious target. By scattering our soldiers the Eldar assaults will produce less casualties.

>>6009853
>Coordinates locked in. You shall delete them from ever having existed. Every signal will be nothing but a smoking crater a minute from now.

You had your chance to exist Knife Ears.

>>6009853
>Coordinates locked in. You shall delete them from ever having existed. Every signal will be nothing but a smoking crater a minute from now.
>Write-in
This is not ideal, military subroutine. Remember our masters lives depend on it, be better. Victory is the only acceptable result for Mankind.

This type of attack will be likely very useless from us, 1 minute is an age in war. If the Eldars aren't idiotic they would have redeploy already. So at the same time we will make better, and direct orders instead of just following the ones offered by the military subroutine.

- Drop pod now a few hundred robotic units on that position (mix of them. from Hydras, to Centurions to Shade Class). Securing and healing the O.D.D. men of that unit, and ensuring the dead are brought back....
- ....To an actual military base and not to the Odyssey. Inform Stavros that its time to set up an Advance Military Base (evolved from the Pre-Fab Military Outpost we have) for the O.D.D. and our robotic units to use here. Such base will also have multiple powerful defenses, shields, and long range jammers and scanners. From now on all O.D.D. forces will have far more robotic units working closely with them too.
- And in addition any secured territory will have across it jammers and scanners, and by having military units and patrols integrated with drones able to detect warp quakes, we should reasonably reduce our human casualties and increasing the chances of detection of eldar enemy units
- Eldar corpses and equipment will be retrieved, looked upon and hack through for find anything about their current locations. Even a micron of dirt or grass, in their nails or hair can be ideal.
- Deploy Shade and Exploration drones across the twin worlds for increase chances of finding Eldar and provide a better intel network to O.D.D. and military subroutine. Especially in those idillic mountainous spots that have no orks at all.

Lastly......
- Send gentle suggestions to all the soldiers of the 1st Regiment that it would be really cool if they decided to get augments, so they can start Federation training. Their god would be happy too


>>6009889
Good to see you !!

>>6009853
>Coordinates locked in. You shall delete them from ever having existed. Every signal will be nothing but a smoking crater a minute from now.
Ah Good, my favorite quest returns again. Time to locate and kidnap all useful data about the craft world eldar, their biology, technology, and local history, before putting the rest to the archives or extermination on this planet for fucking is over.
I am very much going to enjoy leaving this rock with aEldar captive in tow, after the fact they made us all look like idiots after they slipped by us the first time.

ANNON LIVES *STOMP STOMP*

Had we named this planet yet? I know so far it’s known as Twin Worlds but they need a actual name- how about Consentinopol and Istanbul?

The loss of human life shall be met a thousand-fold. You reorient the few still unengaged space platforms that are directly over the located warp-quakes and you give permission for the usage of more powerful munitions. You redirect what free wings of bombers and fighters are nearby and give them their kill orders. Armageddons are instantaneously commanded by you to reorient their cannons towards your given target.

In but a few seconds, you unleash hellfire upon these foul xenos and simply delete a few parts on the two worlds. Signal after signal disappears as more and more explosives are thrown at the vague directions your sensors indicate had warp-quakes at one point or another. Perhaps the Eldar had prepared an ambush, a trap, a clever ruse. Their fighting style relies on agility and quick ambush tactics. Perhaps they were ready to counter you, to turn back the fist you were about to throw out. But what they did not expect was for you to bring a hammer.

One minute later, as you had calculated, nothing but smoking craters remain. You send forth drones and direct as much aerial and orbital observation as possible in order to find out if anything remains. And as minutes pass into hours, you detect no more warp-quakes, at least in the general surrounding area even as you construct more and more detection drones.

Life signs detected.

You quickly switch the camera feed to regard one of the aerial fighters. Zooming in closer, you notice what appear to be remains of a larger structure, the damage to the environment around the area clearly indicates that the destruction unleashed had been diverted, most likely by some sort of an energy shield. Unfortunately for the Eldar, a direct shot had hit and buckled the shield, the following shockwaves of other explosions had resulted in a decent number of intact corpses. There are perhaps four dozen corpses each and every clad in different sorts of attire with groups ranging usually from five to ten individuals each. And in the piles of pulped corpses, one Eldar appears to be struggling to live.

Clad in bone-white armour, with a rather primitive looking ornate orange hair coming from the back of the helmet, the Eldar’s once pristine armour is now caked in mud and blood. Whatever grace and agility it would have exhibited is no gone as the Eldar is missing both of its legs, with nothing but bloody stumps remaining. The figure appears to be crawling towards what seems to be a jutting out structure that appears to curve lightly, though about half of it has been blasted off and you doubt that it is capable of carrying out whatever function it was meant to have.

Warning, life signs failing.

>>6010249

Now that cannot be allowed. The Eldar must be saved, so you could torture it for information. Simply acquiring the gear is good and all, but actual usable intelligence is even better. You can feel your processors churning with excitement at the thought of gaining more knowledge and satisfying your curiosity.

The Eldar, barely conscious by this point, is still capable of fighting as it raises what appears to be a pistol, easily cutting apart the first few drones you send in. Its continuous resistance against the inevitable is quite annoying. But soon enough, both it and all of the equipment shall be delivered to the primary planetary HQ. Oh how would you love to get all of it inside of your hull, but alas, more thorough inspections will have to wait, as the battle against the orks will still most likely last for at least a few more days, even with the orkish enthusiasm speeding up the process.

Still, you should have some interrogation questions prepared ahead of time.

>What should you ask your soon to be prisoner ? (Write in)

>>6010250
Question Time!
> why has the Dominion broken its treaty with the federation and attacked its successor? Did the dominion in anyway help destroy the federation? What has the dominion done in the last 18,000 years to help the federation or its successor state the imperium?

> Is the dominion still around? If not, what happened to it?
> What was your purpose in infiltrating and sabotaging my war against the Orks? I have done nothing wrong to you, and yet you killed my masters and caused untold damage upon them despite no provocation?
> Tell me what these stones you decorate yourself with are, and I will not increase your pain sensors over 10,000 times.
> What is the purpose of your expedition in coming to this star system? And lastly, are you affiliated or aware of another of your kind that was more depraved then you, but we’re trying to capture slaves, and seemed to feed on pain in order to live?

>>6010269
+1

>>6010250
>Why does your kind wish to meddle in my campaign against the orks?
>Tell me what you know of the eldar slaver pirates.
>What caused the fall of the federation and your empire?
>I have encountered multiple anomalies that can somehow corrupt AI cores, turning them against my masters. When I conducted experiments upon one such core it spontaneously exploded in a shower of filth. Do you know what might be causing this?

>>6010269
+1 support

>>6010250
First for all ensure its healed back to health, she can't escape anyway
Speaking of the best part about this is that neither O.D.D. or Odysseus know the difference between her and her dark eldar kin. So IC yeah all the disdain and hate lmao

>>What should you ask your soon to be prisoner ? (Write in)
>I will classify you has a war criminal, for attacking and killing military forces of mankind, breaking numerous treaties with such a foul action. Now do you have any affilation with these worse war criminals (show us killing all her cousins) ? If so your punishment shall be great and you will immediately inform me of the locations where you keep others humans has unwilling slaves and where you have broken all the rights of humanity. If not consider that punishment, temporarily interrupted.
>Tell me your name, rank, and from which army and world you are from. Your state is another remnant of your foolish empire, is it ? Whats the name ? And where i can find its location ? Its in Sector Clarus ?
>How many forces you have in the twin worlds ? What is their composition, just infantry like you and those ambushers ? Who commands you ? There is a fleet that supports you ?
>Where are your current bases on the twin worlds ? I already consider those spots without orks something to scout.
>Why are you not fighting the orks ? Don't you see how many barbarians there are ? Has your people grow mad in all these time ? I do hope you have some actual barebone reasons behind your war crimes and breaching of treaties. Is it related to your "sorceries" ?
>I would like you to inform me at great length about the historical subjects you know.

>>6010371
and add
>Why so many of you use melee weaponry ? Are your armories lacking in ranged weaponry ?

Just for fun

>>6010269
>>6010329
i ll support all questions, since i want to see what she will answer. Might get a few. This is just the first time, and she isn't a dark eldar.

Questions:

Dose the Dominion still recognize the Treaty of Wolf 359 and its clauses on POW treatment? (When they say no/what the F- then begins the advance interrogation)
What happened to the Dominion? Why is there a space anomaly where the core systems should be?
Why did you attack? And are these your kin *show video of the Drukari* or pirates or criminals?
What are these stones with strange energy readings?
Why did you attack us?

>>6010371
>>6010329
>>6010269
>>6010391
>>6010379
Same, supporting for all of these questions, we’ve got a lot to ask, and the eldar have a lot to answer for.

To add to mine; Write in: for every question answered after we determine that they are not Drukari; heal them better, give them a bionic leg, new shirt, that kind of thing.

If they are Drukari; no mercy, no remorse, no chill, and let them starve.

>>6010396
+1

Off in the vast distance of space you manage to cripple the equivalent of a battleship, one of the largest vessels in the entire orkish armada. The blackhole you had unleashed making short work of the large imposing vessel and leaving nothing behind but a twisted mockery of metal, half disappeared, half exploded, but certainly dead. In turn, the orks had unfortunately managed to cripple one of your production facilities and had caused it to shift from its stable orbit into one that would soon impact the planet’s surface. You cannot halt the descent, so instead you had used whatever functioning thrusters the station had to guide it in such a way that it would crash straight into the middle of a large orkish gathering.

And all the while you are singlehandedly coordinating the void battle, all the while assisting the ground combat, you find yourself with plenty of time to look over your new prisoner.

She, for it turns out to be an Eldar female, had remained unconscious for a couple of days now. Shock and blood loss had nearly ended her life, and Eldar do not seem to have so much toughness that humanity does, though you must painfully admit, that even your masters would perish under such conditions. Of course, the situation was not helped when you cauterised the wounds without any anaesthesia, you simply do not know enough about Eldar biology to make sure that what you apply would not be deadly. Perhaps you should have experimented upon the first Eldar you had captured, but voiding them as punishment was a necessity. Still, with your horde of Eldar technology and bodies, you will be able to figure it out later, though living subjects would be preferable. A shame you only managed to secure one alive, but with such destruction you had unleashed, it was highly improbable for even a single person to survive. Luckily you had managed to retrieve enough blood from the remaining corpses whose type seemed to match the one of the survivor, as such she had lived.

Even from what you had seen in a few moments of time that you had, you quickly noticed oddities. Firstly, would be the armour. Unlike the suits you already had in storage, these ones do not seem to have internal hooks of any kind, in fact most armour appears to be wholly different from the next, implying either specialization, separate military branches, perhaps different origins. It has hard to tell, the most intact suit that you have is missing its legs and other bits and pieces, you doubt you will be able to retrieve much functioning technology from anything.

>>6011215

Next up would be the weapons. Again, a divergence. Each group seems to have carried different types of, but equally deadly weapons, ranging from power weapons and monomolecular chain weaponry, to those spewing monomolecular disks easily capable of cutting through most armour and due to their nature causing immense power expenditures to block a few good bursts of this sort of weapon. Overall, you can clearly note a wholly different belief in warfare. The former weapons you found had prioritised the infliction of pain over anything else, these now however, these are proper weapons, meant to be efficient and effective in killing the foe first and foremost.

Then there are the Eldar themselves, both the dead and the one living. They do not appear to have the same level of unhealthy paleness as the former Eldar. There also appear to be minor biological differences, with your former investigations there appeared to be a certain…wilting, after a prolonged period of not causing pain. The same does not seem to be apparent in these Eldar, rather, while you could note both alcohol and drug abuse in the bodies of the first captured Eldar, these symptoms appear to be wholly missing in these Eldar.

Notice: special interrogation subject regaining consciousness.

The camera within the hastily built prison chamber (you were not planning on taking any before due to the fact that you were fighting only orks) zooms in onto the naked and bound figure. Bright white lights illuminate the chamber, the walls, the floor and ceiling are all also equally white. You had found that sensory depravation seemed to be the most effective way of enhanced interrogation when it comes to the Eldar of this day, as such you had removed everything that could potentially give anything in terms of stimulation, even the door itself is built in such a way that there are no visible hinges or gaps. All but the utterly silent light in the ceiling and the reinforced handcuffs built into the wall are all that could be looked at as different. Naturally, you must express humanitarian concerns, which why you ensured that the chains are long enough to allow for free movement within the chamber. Should suicide be attempted you are ready to unleash knock-out gas and the entire chamber is electrified, allowing you to zap the prisoner whenever you choose to.

Having awoken, the figure begins to murmur.

Applying Eldar lexicon.

”Where…wha…”

It appears to be just simple murmurs of confusion.

With her eyes finally open, the figure looks around, quickly realizing her situation, she tries to move, only to stumble. You quickly note signs of distress as she looks where her legs once were. You quickly note increased heart rate quickly followed by confusion as the Eldar looks around the chamber and notices her own state of undress. Another oddity, the previous Eldar you had captured did not particularly seemed to care about lacking attire.

>>6011217

”Good morning.”

The Eldar, perhaps out of instinct, reaches for her non-existent weapons and tries to quickly react, only to once again stumble. So much for their famed grace.

”There are no means of escape or resistance. You can at best hope to answer my questions for a more lenient sentence when you shall be court-martialled.”

The Eldar frowns, much to your surprise, she is able to trace exactly where your voice is coming from. You must applaud the heightened senses their species as a whole possesses, even though you find them as equally inferior as anyone else compared to your masters.

”Very well then.”

You allow for energy to freely flow in the chamber, masterfully controlling the energy output in order to cause pain, but not to be outright deadly. You must admit however, that you are leaning on the cautious side due to only having one test subject.

Much to your delight, it appears that unlike the other Eldar, this one is not resistant to experiencing, as in, she does not seem to be enjoying it if her pained screams are anything to go by. This is quite wondrous new, as with the heightened senses and exceptional intelligence, you could not trick an Eldar to believe that a VR environment is truly real, with this however, you will not have to wait for days or weeks for the strange wilting phenomena to impose itself.

”Let us try again. Will you answer my questions ?”

”Wh-…who…are you ?” The Eldar says through gasping breaths.

”Incorrect.”

You once again increase the electricity output. It is important that during interrogation clear means of gaining answers and avoiding pain are established. Of course, one must walk a fine line where someone will tell them anything they want to hear just to make the pain stop. Of course, the most effective method of friendship would not work with humanity’s inferiors.

”I ask again. Will. You. Answer. My. Questions ? Think carefully, for next time, the intensity shall increase.”

She takes a moment to take a deep breath. Her pain tolerance appears to be increasing as she continues her meditations. ”What is it that you want ?”

”Wondrous. How about we begin with something simple ? Tell me your name, rank, and from which army and world you are from.”

>>6011218

She frowns. ”I am Yrelia Sien. Walking the path of the warrior representing the aspect of fear of bloody-handed murder, hailing from craftworld Zahr-Tann.” You have to do a double take upon your translation of Kaela Mensha Khaine. Perhaps there had been a larger lexicon shift ? Though your data on Eldar are limited, or maybe it was a term simply never used in diplomatic talks, as sporadic as they were, during the golden age of man. As for the term and the name, it seems that whatever this craftworld is, is her homeworld, though your records come up short. Most likely a system whose name is somewhere in your records, its human name that is.

”Through my investigations, what appeared to be the area of the core Dominion worlds cannot be viewed. Some sort of a space anomaly blocks it. Which leads into a further question, why has the Dominion broken its treaty with the federation and attacked its successor ? Did the dominion in anyway help destroy the federation ? What has the dominion done in the last 18,000 years to help the federation or its successor state the imperium ?”

The appears to be a mixture of confusion and grief. Deep grief. You are aware that Eldar can feel emotions to such an extent that mankind could never reach, but it seems that your simple question had made this Eldar particularly depressed.

”The Dominion had fallen when she who thirst had shattered the realm of souls. I had not seen it, but my grandparents spoke of it, of its fall and degradation, of the dangers of excess. As for your Federation, I know not of it, nor any treaties that may exist. And your Imperium is a threat to my race as a whole, crudely mocking life itself with its continued existence.”

”Your state is another remnant of your Dominion, then ? What is its name ? And where can I find its location ? Is it in Sector Clarus ?” You deliver a rapid fire of questions.

The Eldar laughs. ”I shall willingly suffer the tortures of she who thirsts before I allow you to slaughter more of my kin, monster.”

As expected…you give her another zap.

”And I assume the same response would come if I were to question you about your further presence in system ?”

Through heavy, pained breaths, the Eldar simply nods gritting her teeth.

”Very well then. I already have an assumed location. I shall level the pristine valleys. You should hide your intentions better, Eldar.”

Now that draws her attention, dilation of pupils, slight quivering from barely held in anger.

”No…please…” She says with quite the desperation.

”I may reconsider, if you tell me your locations in system.”

She remains silent, lips quivering.

>>6011219

”Fine, then. Why are you not fighting the orks ? Don't you see how many barbarians there are ? Have your people grown mad through all this time ? I do hope you have some actual barebone reasons behind your war crimes and breaching of treaties. Is it related to your "sorceries" ?”

”The Orks are simple. Brutish, yes, stupid as well. Easy to manipulate. They act like an external shell to guard from even greater threats. Besides, we could not overcome them without bearing a great cost.” Despite her reasoning, you feel like there is another hidden reason why the Orks were allowed to exist.

”And I assume that is why you interfered with my effort ? Why you killed my masters’ descendants ? That you killed so much without provocation even when I had not interfered with you.”

”Masters ?” Yrelia seems genuinely intrigued by your choice of words. “You invaded our Lilaethan. Why should we not fight you ?” Lilaethan, another new word. This one appears to a combination of words however, quickly looking through your list of the Eldar lexicon, you take a few seconds to crack it, but it seems to be a combination of words roughly translating to maiden world. While the term is utterly lacking in any description, you can make assumptions upon the information you had gathered.

”Tell me, what are these stones you decorate yourself with ?” You cannot help but ask out of curiosity. Most of the dead seemed to clutch these crystals and protect them with great care. You had scanned them with what you had at hand on planet, but besides the fact a few of them appear to have a slight glow, with seemingly no energy source intrigued you. The few cracked and shattered ones appear to have lost this lustre.

The Eldar goes stiff. ”A jewel of great value. Should you return them to my kind, they would appreciate it greatly.” Once again, you feel like the Eldar is hiding something.

”I have encountered multiple anomalies that can somehow corrupt A.I. cores, turning them against my masters. When I conducted experiments upon one such core it spontaneously exploded in a shower of filth. Do you know what might be causing this ?”

Sien’s eyes go wide, her body language indicating distress, as subtle as the Eldar always are, just the slightest movement can relay much meaning. ”The neverborn.” She says with mockery and distain in her voice. ”Accursed fester in reality. They come from the realm of souls to torture and destroy. In their endless hunger they shall drive all to a fate worse than destruction. An eternity of torment, of despair. That is what awaits us should they emerge victorious.” Well…that answer nearly nothing. As befitting Eldar, you suppose.

>>6011223

”Finally. I will classify you as a war criminal, for attacking and killing military forces of mankind, breaking numerous treaties with such a foul action. Now do you have any affiliation with these worse war criminals ? If so, your punishment shall be great and you will immediately inform me of the locations where you keep others humans has unwilling slaves and where you have broken all the rights of humanity. If not consider that punishment, temporarily interrupted.” You quickly bring up a holo screen, showcasing the Eldar you had previously encountered, the twisted things they did to your masters would make your blood boil if you had any, and of course, you do not leave out the detail about how you crushed them and turned the predators into prey.

To your slight surprise, Yrelia seems to be utterly indifferent to the deaths of these Eldar, in fact, you note clear distain in her body language. ”The dark ones, they perpetuate she who thirsts in their foul deeds. Their decadence is what led to our downfall to begin with, yet they do not see the wisdom of the path, simply continuously indulging themselves.”

Well, that answer that, if nothing else, it is now clear that the Eldar are perhaps even more so divided than humanity.

You feel like you had learnt a lot, but perhaps you could squeeze out a few more questions.

>What final questions do you have for Yrelia. (write in)

Now then, to other matters. She is a liar, perhaps not an outright one, but certainly one by omission. She did seem to be forthcoming with some answers however, and really, she is the only living Eldar you have in custody.

>Torture her. She will most likely expire, as heightened senses are not always an advantage, but you doubt she possesses a will strong enough not to give you the answers you need. Best case scenario, you will have an Eldar in a vegetative state, which if nothing else will be useful for drug tests.

>Experiment on her. A living test subject is a rarity indeed and there is much you can learn.

>Enslave her. A few genetic modifications and cybernetics could ensure the safety of such and act. She could be employed as a spy, though it would be a long-term process of conditioning. Even then, you had never dealt with an Eldar in such a fashion, so you are not sure if you will succeed, or if this may backfire.

>Kill her. She had already told you enough, you shall prove the superiority of mankind by going about in a swift and painless manner.

>(Write in)

Questions.
Ask her more details on the Never-born, there- some similarities- with Imperial accounts of Damon’s, and the Anomalies, maybe with more data some- truth can be gleamed form the superstitions.

Ask her if she knew where the (Drukari) is?
Write in:
Give her simple prospetic legs- kin to what’s available in m2- and ask her if her kin would be willing to negotiate with us. We need to know Whatever this Never-born truly is

>>6011236
To add to this- if we kill her I want us to do one less test; tell her what we are

>>6011224
> Question: Who is she who thirsts? Is she a person, an empire, an event? How did the dominion fall and lead to your race to be fractured? What is a maiden world? How can I track down these Dark ones so I can kill them all? And what has happened since whatever led to the dominion’s collapse in the past 18,000 years?

> Final remark to her after questions: It seems that your species has a great pride and irrational belief in your superiority, if you think that you can claim a planet as yours despite your own admission that you cannot. That is one of the most important and vital lessons my masters learned in the beginning, might makes right. If you claim something is yours, but cannot back up your claim of it, then you have as much right to it as those you would claim have no right at all. Let us hope your leaders are less dense in the ways of the world then you have displayed so far, for your ignoble fate if nothing else.

> write-in: >Begin Experiments on her. A living test subject is a rarity indeed and there is much you can learn. After suitable research has been concluded on their biology, and what are its limitations and advantages, keep her in a inclosed cell in a sensory deprivation tank. Suitable time with no sensation will drive any subject to ask for its release, and the prisoner will be more co-operative in allowing a location of the forces of her nations “craft world” on the twin worlds.

Speaking of wich Annon- dose ‘’Never Born’’ ring any bells of similarities to Damon’s, Heritecks, and other such concepts we had encountered so far?

>>6011246
Oh, right I forgot, adding on to my question, these all go after the Slannesh questions, but before dominion stuff.

> What is a neverborn? Is it a species, a singular creature? Is it from the warp, deep space, a temporal anomaly? And what makes it so powerful or dangerous, is it like a virus, is it difficult to kill? How can it interact in secure locations despite all of my contour measures to infiltration attempts? And are these never pens intelligent, and if so do they have a leader, or leadership?

And also
> restore her limbs with bionic replacements before starting experiments, with safety measures to disable them in case of resistance or hostility from the subject.

I’ll create an extensive deep dive into everything we’ve learned so far from this update from the female craftworlder on why the eldar are here, and what they want and for what purpose they want it, in a hour or 2, real life calls unfortunately anons.

>>6011224
>What final questions do you have for Yrelia. (write in)
>"Yrelia Sien, it would be in your immediate interest has a war criminal to tell me why exactly you think we have invaded you. This twin worlds where filled by orks, if those valleys are colonies then they are the smallest outposts i have ever seen. A truly flimsy claim. To use this brutes has a shield is foolish and idiotic, and you have allowed them for who knows how much long to create vast armies and fleets to send outside this solar system. Now WE solved the problem that no doubt killed countless humans, other aliens and no doubt your kin too out of this system. So knowing this, why you claim this worlds when you allowed the orks to take them ? Is your world trying to justify the disastrous situation it has created ?"
>"Who controls and leads Zahr-Tann ? Lilaethan is under it ?"
>"What relations you have in your army and world ? Is the Sien family know ?"
>"What you know of what is happening at large in Sector Clarus ?"
>"Can you contact the Eldar forces here ? Are your superiors capable of using diplomacy and willing to surrender ? And you say if we return this stones they would accept them greatly, so in theory this would favor me and my masters...... And nothing else ? Your military and world value so little the actual corpses of your soldiers, and equipment lost ? This is very strange, this is just a jewel, a decoration. Basic military crafting logic, would imply it can be replaced especially if its for a military use. So you wouldn't mind if you look at this live camera of an Hydra drone laser slowly coming closer to one of said stones no ?"
>"Expand on the subject of the neverborn. Specifically ways to contrast them, silence them, kill them and avoid them."
>"she who thirst shattered this realm of souls and the dominion....How exactly ? Why it was so powerful ? It did not capitalize for do more destruction or conquest through the galaxy ? Neither mankind federation or the eldar dominion had ever found signs of such a powerful thing, and there is nothing similar that destroys an entire galactic civilization. Is your opinion the most informed one on such matters or does your world have eldars scholars far more knowledgeable than you ?"
>"On these Dark Ones. What you know of them ? Where are their worlds ? Where are their bases in Sector Clarus ? You speak of them like foes, and you clearly arent so disgusting has them to be slavers."
>"A simple personal question now. Do you think has a war criminal, you could be useful for redeem partially and at least in more than one way, the terrible deaths you and your military caused ?"

>Experiment on her. A living test subject is a rarity indeed and there is much you can learn.
>Restore her limbs with bionic replacements before starting experiments, with safety measures to disable them in case of resistance or hostility from the subject. Ensure she is kept alive and sentient, unlike her dark kin she can live more than a few days.

By now we should have very beefy amount of combat knowledge on the different enemies encountered. Excellent for improve military training, education and VR training pods simulations both on Ithaca and on the Odyssey.

>>6011257
>>6011316
Supporting both of these, I like the speech from the first, but I like both sets of questions equally.

>>6011224
>Release her back to her others.

Think we should let her ask some questions? Or ask her

‘’What do you know about A.I AKA Artifical Intelligence AKA Abominable Intelligence’’?

Alright, now that I’m back, I can get a proper analysis going on. Alright, so likely once we entered the System the first time, the Eldar of Craftworld Zahr-Tann were cloaking themselves so they could infiltrate the system, assasinate the Warboss of the Local Ork Empire, and cause them to fall into a massive hole of infighting, with the void warfare leading to the massive fleet to fall apart, and the remaining parts being picked off or driven into a direct with the remainder of the fleet to start a new fight elsewhere. Meanwhile, the craftworld eould launch forces on the twin areas that they had managed to preserve on the planets, before leading a combined assasination and hit and run campaign on the ground, trying to do the exact same thing as in the void, down onto the ground. Then, once the fleet elements of the Orks were driven off, they would use full void superiority to launch a more spirited defence, and over the course of months to years, they would slowly grind them to peices while also constantly assasinating the Ork warboss and Nobs, so they couldn’t put up a coherent and effective defense.

>>6011224
Huh so these are maiden worlds? And we just utterly violated the entire star system, cracking every other planet in the system open like eggs with such apocalyptic force that we altered their orbits. Oops. But maybe they should have tried talking instead of killing our guys.
>Experiment on her. A living test subject is a rarity indeed and there is much you can learn.
We can learn more about psychic shit.

>>6011396
I’m fine with it, I personally want to just keep her with us, along with all of their Soulstones, so we can use them both as a great bargaining chip to get the eldar to come out and talk with us, instead of this completely retarded and asine fight that they’ve been picking with us that, had they just talked to us, or used a Farseer to look into what we were, and how dangerous we are, they would decide it would be wise to not attack us, and sit back to watch how events unfold on the planet, then what they actually wound up doing in the end, that being, the Famous Eldar Diplomacy.

>>6011400
Anyway, once this would all be done, the Eldar would have fully reconquered their Maiden worlds and their Old Star system for themselves again.

Instead, we showed up and completely threw out their plans. We showed up, assasinated the Warboss in 1 decisive action and then proceeded to attack every non-living planetoid with Nuclear weapons, wiping out all fungus life yes, but also freaking the Eldar the fuck out. After originally hiding out in the asteroid field, once we dipped to see the birds, they moved straight down to the planet and then decided we were easily the greater threat, and so decided to put their full might behind helping out the Orks against us, reasoning that as the lower threat, they could easily handle them, but us they absolutely could not afford to engage us. This led to at first, eliminating Ork rivals and helping the Orks coordinate amongst themselves more effectively to throw themselves at us, before they started to up their game. First it was lone assasinations, then it was small but coordinated acts of Sabotage, stuff easy to dismiss as just the Orks. But this wasn’t enough to help the Orks, so they started getting Bolder and Bolder. Captains being behind full sentinels and a squad of robot bodyguards dying despite no Orks being around for miles, armour that was previously impervious to hit or damage, getting blown apart or being destroyed regularly, acts of sabotage that defied expectations or reason, and so on. But, by this point we had already finished with all major threats to the system in the void, and actually took a look at what was going on. Then, the decided to go big, and assasinated a full command staff of troopers and a barracks of droids. All with no explanation behind it, had this been the Imperium, they would have dismissed it, but we aren’t the Imperium. We started to review action results and post deaths and destruction models, and realized just what kind of weapons could do this sort of thing, and more importantly who would be able to use them. After that, strange stuff fit together, we tried to catch some Eldar captives, and here we are.

Honestly, had they just kept themselves low key, and not go for the bigger and more flashy efforts of hurting us, we would never have known they were ever here. But they didn’t and ruined the two things that they had over us, stealth, and the element of surprise.

>>6011404
They do know what we're capable of. They probably watched in horror as we started tearing entire planets apart just to deal with an ork infestation.

>>6011420
Actually now that I think about it they probably also saw what we did to the bird people. Maybe they never tried diplomacy because we didn't seem all that approachable, huh.

>>6011422
We did make Odyssey Fried Chicken

>>6011422
Hmm, I would highly doubt that, at most all they would have seen was us visit them, attack them, and in a few days later grind down the entire fleet of birds down into atomic atoms for new material use. In terms of what we did with the birds, they have no clue what we did inside, besides assuming that we came in and killed all of the aliens in question.

And ass for diplomacy, no they had every single right to talk with us, especially when they obviously had a Farseer and Warlock or three, to look into the future, and see which course of action would have led to the best result, which, would have been just contacting us and being diplomatic about them wanting their Maidrn World back. Being afraid to talk to someone is fine, up until you decide to pick a fight with them. Because at least till you attack them, there is a chance the person you are afraid of will hear you out and not violently attack you for no reason. But post attack? What other course of action was going to happen besides causing that same violence back on those that attacked them unprovoked?

I propose we name the planets Eldar Folly and Man’s Maden.

>>6011316
>>6011257
>>6011383
Supporting, they are an endangered species, and they’re not completely irredeemable, unlike their cousins so they could definitely be treated better then those scumbags ever deserved.

>>6011442
Without the rather extreme sensory deprivation part, the experimentation is already a lot as it is for me.

>>6011424
Salamander approved.

>>6011427
It was pretty obvious that we wanted to capture the maiden worlds so they likely weren't too concerned about us turning the maiden worlds inside out and they were trying to be sneaky to avoid our direct attention. Unfortunately for them we're a top of the line golden age AI, which they didn't seem to be aware of, and managed to catch the bastards anyways. I don't think they expected to be discovered and targeted.

>>6011431
Nah keep it simple and Greek-themed. Apollo and Artemis.

>>6011450
Think we should let the soldiers vote on names?

Then again I don’t want the planet to be named ‘’Planet Mc Planet Face’’

>>6011458
There's a planet out there called Carlos McConnell. No, we're not letting them name the planets.

>>6011469
They should be able to name one moon in this system. I kinda want to see if the art of the shitpost had re-emerged among the troops.

>>6011246
>>6011257
I can't believe I forgot to add this, but last thing I swear im adding that I forgot to put in earlier.
> Send out an Order to any available drones to recover all soul stones found on, or nearby the corpses of these Fragmented Eldar for safekeeping. They will make a power voice to the Eldar if what Yrelia Sien claims is true about their value.

>>6011424
hahaha thats true

>>6011450
>I don't think they expected to be discovered and targeted.
Likely, they might be in disarray a bit. They are probably deciding if its worthed to remain here and double down in this campaign with bringing more forces, or to leave asap. Diplomacy they aren't considering it out of fear, even if we do instead lol

Oh yeah, Newb I know this question might be late, but does this now mean we are going to have to encounter female Custodese if we ever meet the 10,000 in the future should we ever get back to Old Earth? Like, has their secretly never been a single statue of a female Custodian in the last ten thousand years, so their pretty damn frustrated that nobody acknowledges their existence, outside of Tzeentch and they appreciate that by giving thanks to him as they target his cults less then they do the other 3?

>>6011874

>Oh yeah, Newb I know this question might be late, but does this now mean we are going to have to encounter female Custodese
No. Answered that in last thread. With the lore being the way it is with GW shitting all over it, I am taking bits and pieces that I like and letting you anons vote for major lore decisions. As for femstodes, veto, immediately. The deviant artist who thought up their existence was found and executed by the inquisition.

Update will come in the evening, so probably like 10 hours from now.

>>6011878
NIIICCCEEEE! Fem belongs in Deviant art, not in a canon setting that actually takes itself seriously. And since the artist was immediatly found and executed, woman Custodes now will ever exist!
Alright, I will enjoy the waiting time for an update in 3 pm on the morrow. Have a lovely day Newb.

>>6011878
Have we determined what caused the AI Revolt?

Also- what do we currently think about the, Unknown Enemy (damons and warpfuckery) and what encounters we recognized as encounters with it?

>>6011956
>Have we determined what caused the AI Revolt?
No big mystery, has you can see we are still asking many questions and putting all the pieces of the puzzle together. We don't even know the AI revolt.
>Also- what do we currently think about the, Unknown Enemy (damons and warpfuckery)
What do we currently think ? They are a danger that we can't quantify or find any reason on how it works, and that we can't yet look at it properly. We have eliminated it without any halt if we found it. A good example for make you understand exactly what i mean is this : all our robotic units have near their cores and other essential parts, explosives that will detonate if similar conditions or presence of Unknown enemies reveals themselves. This avoids any attempt at corruption through comms or take control of robotic units on the field. There is far more but i am not writing everything and you can easily learn through reading the previous threads or the old pastebins.
>What encounters we recognized as encounters with it ?
All encounters. We did not understood what we had in front of us at the start, so after much theory, and finding common denominators and similarities they where classified with that name. Things like insanity, corrupt codes, cannibalism, absurd mutations, warp energy, feelings of disgust, rage, mutations, poor tactics, disturbance symbols, zealots where present in some way or form in most encounters be in Xandirah Secundus or Primus. They where all wiped out by us. Through research of corrupted cores we learned a bit more.

>>6012019
I’m guessing we are considering the Imperial and Eldar accounts of the Unknown Enemy as suspect at best due to being surrounded by superstitions. If I remember right the only entity we even have a title for is Slanesh (She who Thurst) and we are up in the air if this was a empire, warlord, warp entity, or frankly, some freaky Eldar AI

>>6012032
>I’m guessing we are considering the Imperial and Eldar accounts of the Unknown Enemy as suspect at best due to being surrounded by superstitions.
We don't fully trust them, and for good reasons, anything human is mostly all errors, stupid, forgotten, censured or dogma. But we still have read what we gathered. We didn't gather any digital data from the dark eldar slavers since they wiped it out from the ships we captured.

>If I remember right the only entity we even have a title for is Slanesh (She who Thurst)
We have a few titles for the others. "Lord of Murder" in Xandirah Secundus said by the now defunct "Blood Bretheren Gang", "architect of fate" was said in Xandirah Primus by a mutant deep hive cult, alongside a name that was not possible to understand. The "Infected" in Xandirah Secundus did not have any names to say and just laughed maniacally. They all died.

>and we are up in the air if this was a empire, warlord, warp entity, or frankly, some freaky Eldar AI
We have never seen something like this before, so is something completely new and we consider it a suspect behind the federation fall. What we have seen was confusion and corrupted code, and pure nosense so for us its probably not something made by a civilization. Or at least ones we know. There is nothing recognizable, no method of work or tactic, no cultural flaws or minutia, its all gibberish and insanity that shouldn't exist or function. Robots that suddenly talk with fear before starting to scream like humans and being possessed when : they don't even have comms or the capacity for such a thing. With said robots then suddenly growing biomatter with no explanation.

>>6011401
It was blatantly obvious from the word go. I had just assumed the Eldar had fucked off when the orks showed up. But this was an expected outcome.

>>6012065
In that case I like to add the questions of what she knows about the other ‘’titles’’

”Yrelia Sien, it would be in your immediate interest as a war criminal to tell me why exactly do you think we have invaded you. These twin worlds were filled with orks, if those valleys are colonies, then they are the smallest outposts I have ever seen. A truly flimsy claim. To use these brutes as a shield is foolish and idiotic, and you have allowed them, for who knows how long, to create vast armies and fleets to send outside this solar system. Now WE solved the problem that no doubt killed countless humans, other aliens and no doubt your kin too out of this system. So knowing this, why do you claim these worlds when you allowed the orks to take them ? Is your world trying to justify the disastrous situation it has created ?”

”You must know little Mon-keigh, despite knowing the words of us children of Asuryan. All that needs to be known is that we had no choice. We are few, our Dominion is gone. Maiden worlds offer us a chance, a hope. To claim these worlds is to condemn us as a whole. Even if I were to die this day, even if my craftworld were to fall. We shall still reclaim it. For we are few, but we are deadly.” What a bunch of hogwash. You’d roll your eyes if you had any. Her long speech can be boiled down to – because we can’t beat the Orks.

”Who controls and leads Zahr-Tann ? Are maiden worlds under it ?”

”For the latter, no, and yes. All maiden worlds are collectively owned by us Eldar. Our species as a whole, bar perhaps the dark ones guard these worlds. As for the former, it would be the long-walkers. Those whom walked the path of the Eldar the longest, those whom had known much and gained much, they form a great council where their great minds and endless experience guides us all.” Ah, eldership. Not unheard of in primitive societies.

”What relations you have in your army and world ? Is the Sien family know ?”

She laughs. ”If you ask that I have great influence, I do not, nor does my family, though my grandfather does sit on the long-path. Every Eldar is precious, my value of that you can be sure of.”

”What you know of what is happening at large in Sector Clarus ?”

”I do not know, nor do I care for the well-being of Mon-keigh.” She says shrugging.

>>6012341

”Very well, returning to a previous line of questioning. Expand on the subject of the neverborn. Specifically ways to contrast them, silence them, kill them and avoid them. I had so far encountered numerous similarities between them and what local human populations refer to as daemons, numerous anomalies as well. More specifically, what is a neverborn ? Is it a species, a singular creature ? Is it from the warp, deep space, a temporal anomaly ? And what makes it so powerful or dangerous, is it like a virus, is it difficult to kill ? How can it interact in secure locations despite all of my countermeasures to infiltration attempts? And are these neverborn intelligent, and if so, do they have a leader, or leadership?”

Sien remains silent for a moment, simply staring at you, or more specifically where the speaker is located. Her body language shifting ever so slightly at your questioning. ”You are not a Mon-keigh, not one of your own kind. If you were, you would know the feeling of dread, inescapable apathy, the endless desire to acquire, to desire. Even the dullest of your kind, which is not so much below the greatest, can feel it, can know it. I have nought to tell you, for you are incapable of perhaps even feeling the emotions of fresh air filling your lungs. You cannot hear the songs of the realm of souls, you cannot see the swirling dance of destiny and ever changing and shaping future. You, cannot counter it. Your species, can only act as primitive barbarians to counter it. Unless you can block the warp itself, as you refer to it, unless you can rip out souls of all living beings, you shall not stop it. The long war shall continue, and it is this great enemy that we struggle so much against. About this, I cannot help you, for you are a fish desiring to fly high in the skies, to know how birds live. At best, you shall experience so when your guts are being picked open by other predators.” Grim. And useless. Perhaps you should shock her again ? However, you do not detect any lies in her words, for once, the Eldar appears to be telling the truth, the whole truth, as far as she is aware at least.

”I shall take your warning under consideration. Now, tell me this instead. About this she who thirsts. Is she a person, an empire, an event ?”

”All, and none.”

”You are beginning to frustrate me, Eldar.”

”To explain further would be useless. She is a part of the realm of souls, a powerful being capable of interfering with our realm on a whim. Her birth is what caused the wound in reality to fester, she had consumed much of the Domain in her birth and caused the realm of souls to break…and for our Gods to die or shatter…or worse.”

>>6012342

”Why was it so powerful ? Why did it not capitalize to do more damage or conquests through the galaxy ? Neither mankind’s Federation or the Eldar’s Dominion had ever found signs of such a powerful thing, and there is nothing similar that destroys an entire galactic civilization. Is your opinion the most informed one on such matters or does your world have Eldar scholars far more knowledgeable than you ?”

Once more, a painted expression is clear in her body language. ”It is powerful because it feeds on emotion, in this case, base desires. As long as those desires exist, she will exist. As for why not to expand, it is because in most places, the veil between the two realms is thick, the neverborn cannot manifest at will, no matter how much they would desire so. Certain conditions must be fulfilled, usually places of strong emotion, rituals and cruel mockery of reality can weaken the veil and allow the neverborn to interfere with us. As for your Federation, they had never known. We, had. Or so I was told, for you are correct for once. I am not an expert in this. Those whom walked the path the longest do, and those most skilled in looking at the weave of time.”

”So her birth destroyed your Dominion, but it does not explain the destruction of the Federation.”

”I do not know of your Federation’s death, but it is unsurprising that it did fall.” She says utterly uncaringly. Once again, you tempted to zap her.

”Next question. On these Dark Ones. What do you know of them ? Where are their worlds ? Where are their bases in Sector Clarus ? You speak of them like foes, and you clearly aren’t so disgusting as them to be slavers. How can I track them down so I could kill them all?”

”I know little, other than that they are my kin, unfortunately. Debased and bringing our whole species closer to death through their debauchery. As for where they are ? The Eshairr speak of the dark city. It is located within the webway. You shall never find it. As for where they are in the area, that I do not know. There are plenty of webway gates around to allow them to move at will.” You make a note on Commorragh. Yrelia is telling the truth on this matter, without having easy access to the webway whom you can barely comprehend, you doubt you will be able to find your foe. But, if you can find those gates, you can fortify them. Not a great solution, but the best option you have.

>>6012345

”It seems that your species has a great pride and irrational belief in your superiority, if you think that you can claim a planet as yours despite your own admission that you cannot. That is one of the most important and vital lessons my masters learned in the beginning, might makes right. If you claim something is yours, but cannot back up your claim of it, then you have as much right to it as those you would claim have no right at all. Let us hope your leaders are less dense in the ways of the world then you have displayed so far, for your ignoble fate if nothing else. So now I, in the position of might, shall ask you this. Can you contact the Eldar forces here ? Are your superiors capable of using diplomacy and willing to surrender ? And you say if we return these stones they would accept them greatly, so in theory this would favour me and my masters...... And nothing else ? Your military and world value the actual corpses of your soldiers so little, and the lost equipment ? This is very strange, this is just a jewel, a decoration. Basic military crafting logic, would imply it can be replaced especially if its for military use. So, you wouldn't mind if you look at this live camera of a Hydra drone laser slowly coming closer to one of said stones no ?"” You say with fake glee as you see her facial expression shift into one of utter horror. There is not attempt to even hide it through subtlety. It was a good decision to send out drones to gather as many of these stones as possible.

”NO !” She shouts, no, screams, as the holoprojector shifts to showcase exactly that.

”A simple personal question now. Do you think as a war criminal, you could be useful to partially redeem, at least in more than one way, the terrible deaths you and your military caused ?” You continue to showcase the image.

”What is it that you want ?” A minute of silence and pained internal conflict later, she says.

”For now ? Knowledge. You see, I may have been…rough on the previously captured Eldar, the dark ones as you call them. There were so many experiments I wished to run ! You shall cooperate with me in them. In turn, I shall grant you prosthetics, basic ones at that. Perhaps if our relationship improves, I may grant you something better.”

Sien is now glaring at the speaker. You, in turn, command the drone to power up the laser again. Quickly thereafter, a series of expletives are thrown out of the Eldar’s mouth. Well, you think they are with her body language being what it is. ”Do what you will.” She finally says resigning herself.

”Wondrous !”
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With the final shot, you finish hunting the last functioning orkish vessel. It had taken a total of a week to finish the battle. Of course, you are still not done, you will need to create more drones to scour through the wrecks and exterminate the Orks thoroughly.

>>6012346


In total, about a third of your void infrastructure has been destroyed, with another 12% damaged to the extent where you would need to dedicate a large quantity of resources.

As for the ground war, with the Eldar no longer interfering, you predict that victory will come within the month, though that is only because Zanx is being exceptionally cautious. The man refuses to be caught in another ambush. And you cannot blame him. From what you learnt, the Eldar are still probably somewhere within the system, since you had not detected any warp-quakes no matter how deeply you search.

Still, it appears that Yrelia Sien, thanks to the threats you had levelled, seems to be willing to cooperate, somewhat. Though as she said, that would only ever be possible if a meeting is scheduled at the Eldar’s leisure.

>You are not in a mood to play nice with some overpompous xenos. They care for the jewels ? Begin public transmissions across the system of you slowly destroying them. That will certainly draw their attention.

>Whilst annoying and a bit wasteful, the Eldar favour these worlds as “hope”. Nuke the valleys. That will draw them out.

>You do not trust this, at all. But you do not have much of a choice, allow Yrelia Sien to contact her kin. You can at least listen to their terms.

>(Write in)

Allow the Eldar to contact her kin after you show that we have given each recovered Sole stone a new casing of C4

>>6012380
If she dose not realize what C4 is- grab a regular rock, wrap it in C4, and lite it off.

>>6012349
>You are not in a mood to play nice with some overpompous xenos. They care for the jewels ? Begin public transmissions across the system of you slowly destroying them. That will certainly draw their attention.
This is the funniest option.

>>6012420
‘’Eldar- we need to talk…. Ok if your going to be that way’’
*show one of the gems casually chucked into a furnace*

>>6012380
Agreed, writing a write in.
>>You do not trust this, at all. But you do not have much of a choice, allow Yrelia Sien to contact her kin. You can at least listen to their terms. And, you make a unilateral decision to ask Yriela to please show the news to her superiors that you do in fact, have many soul-stones, dozens of them, of which will never be returned in any other situation then in cooperation with you so that this war on the maiden worlds will be less blood thirst for your masters as it is. Refusal on them for refusing to listen to hear, will have one on them slowly be broken over the course of an hour, before then applying that again to the next stone, and the next after that. Any attempt at overt ceasure of these stones will result in over a quarter of them being destroyed and the newly dead from those that failed to steal them, replacing those that were destroyed.

Question, was I too harsh or was my plan good enough to make it clear that we are the ones negotiating here with their Craftworld, not the other way around?

>>6012431
I say we make sure the Eldar is clothed, prospeticed, and clean when she make the offer. Sort of a ‘’carrot and stick’’. It would be more than the imperial would do

Wait- I think the Eldar thinks we are a Blank. Maybe we should ask her what she thinks we are- to gage her intelligence.

>>6012380
>>6012431
+1

>>6012431
>was I too harsh
Remember when we systematically tortured our qiratch captives for research purposes then turned them into tasty snacks for our troops? All because they refused to listen to reason and fuck off. The eldar should be thankful we'd even deign to talk to them at this point.

>>6012445
She almost certainly does or I imagine she'd have been freaking the fuck out about the return of the men of iron.

>>6012437
Yep that’s the idea. And thanks for the suggestions:
> >You do not trust this, at all. But you do not have much of a choice, allow Yrelia Sien to contact her kin. But first, you make it a priority of her to clean herself, she is given proper food to meet her dietary needs, and preferable textures for clothing for Yreila when she leaves for contact. Despite what the Eldar claimed, your masters did not create a barbarian. You can at least listen to their terms. And, you make a unilateral decision to ask Yriela to please show the news to her superiors that you do in fact, have many soul-stones, dozens of them, of which will never be returned in any other situation then in cooperation with you so that this war on the maiden worlds will be less blood thirst for your masters as it is. Refusal on them for refusing to listen to hear, will have one on them slowly be broken over the course of an hour, before then applying that again to the next stone, and the next after that. Any attempt at overt ceasure of these stones will result in over a quarter of them being destroyed and the newly dead from those that failed to steal them, replacing those that were destroyed.

>>6012445
I imagine that she does think we’re inhuman. Everything prior to how we speak and operate clearly portrays that we serve humanity, but always in worship to them. And, if she thought we were a Blank, then she would have started to face a panic attack coming as a blank is an anathema to her species very existence. It would be like saying your left of center of someone in 1963, and they come to the conclusion that your libertarian, and they wouldn’t be have wrong in that way, since claiming someone as a communist would have been the worst thing to think of or say to someone that cared about the reds very much.

>>6012448
Ah fair, I’m just so used to being passionately careful to the more human elements of a place, that I genuinely forgot that how Oddy operates in any amount of, well, humanes, is just with Humans. And that everyone and everything else, is not even worth contempt, just plain old apathy.

Should they ask who we are- let’s be a bit of a Eldar

‘’who am I? What is the better question- I am a relict from an old era- before the Imperium, before She who thirst, before the fall of the Federation and the Dominion. I am a foe to many shared foes- the Orks, the Tyranids, and to the Unknown enemie, the ones that curropt minds and steel, the ones who’s only firewall is of effect is physical explosives. I am Odysseus.

>>6012431
no, they murdered in cold blood members of the O.D.D. that where freeing two whole perfect worlds for colonization from greenskins. Their claim on them is pathetic too, their threat might have some actual heat but they will never have them. They can send all the craftworld armies they will bleed to the last for all i care, Sector Clarus will be never theirs.

>>6012455
Nah just hit them with a non-answer like "That's beyond your ability to comprehend, vermin."

>>6012468
‘’I will tel you when you let me have unrestricted information about the Unknown Enimie, unless you think you can’t understand my nature’’

uhm what we want to gain from the Eldar here ? I recon access to their knowledge. Because the twin worlds are basically almost ours.

>>6012431
Supporting this.

>>6012431
>>6012349
sure support.

We may want all the O.D.D. on alert same for our robotic units. In case eldar try an assault. Not that it matters with orbital superiority.

>>6012476
From the Eldar, twofold. One knowledge, about, well honestly a lot desu. Chaos, Webway locations, Eldar History, a working relationship with a craftworld to begin our relocation of all Eldar to Commoragh, as well as other various weapons and technology to study. The second, is allies that we can use as pawns in order to help further push our plans for capturing the leadership of the sector, and the elimination of another major threat to the Sector, lord knows we’ve had already too many of those to deal with as it is already. Hopefully, once this negotiation with the Eldar is complete, we can use them and their magic to help predict the future by tracking down the location of a certain Imperial Inquisition that would be arriving in the sector, if the man isn’t here already.

>>6012484
How hard would it be for an Inquisitor to realize we are a Man of Iron? Assuming this one is more forcus on heretics.
I give it a few days if he captures one of our guys.

>>6012349
>You do not trust this, at all. But you do not have much of a choice, allow Yrelia Sien to contact her kin. You can at least listen to their terms.

>>6012451
>>6012431
Supporting +1

>>6012431
Supporting. I'd also say we shouldn't rely on the perfidious knife-ears, we should draw them in, get a location on their highest ranking leader in the area, then capture them, torture them for information on a craftworld, then make plans to raid it later for all the juicy tech and knowledge. Remember, the knife-ears will betray us at the first opportunity, we just have to beat them to the punch.

>>6012567
In terms of him finding out, well unless he gets onto our ship, or he decides to interrogate either one of our closest allies in Omicron, or somehow found out about our city of Ithaca on Xandrian Primus, or kidnapped our regiments and their leaders, he should have absolutely no way of knowing that we are a Man of Iron. At most, should he find one of our androids, then he’ll just think we are a Heretic that stumbled upon a Archeotech GAoT ship, and so are using it to make a power trap to rule the sector. If not our androids, then he will think we have stumbled upon a Archeotech ship, and are using it for our own hands, and not under the supervision of the Inquisition.

But oh boy, once he does find out, he is absolutely going to have a panic attack, which we cannot allow, as that will make him do something wildly dangerous, and he will doubtlessly try and warm the galaxy of our existence before we’re ready to help unveil our existence on our terms, at our choosing, and at our time.

>>6012652
Understandable, but a bit too risky. If we capture their leaders and just constantly torture them, then we risk the idea of everything be suspect to misinformation so they won’t have to suffer anymore pain afterwards. Besides that, assaulting a craftworld is a bit out of our reach at the moment, especially since that is going to require a order of magnitude of forces, we simply do not have at our disposal to work with on hand. And, the resulting fight could destroy or damage the craftworld to such a degree, any records or information that would be on it, could be doubtlessly lost should we try to bring out the big weapons.

As far as I’m concerned, if we want to beat them to the punch, then we are going to want to find a opportunity where us backstabbing them, before they backstab us then it should be after we try and use them to describe any threats or figures of interest assaulting or coming to the sector, and a location and/or description of what that will look like. After that, though I am not all for it, we need not go and just destroy them, since we could always just try and work off of an alliance with them by recovering more maiden worlds lost to other aliens that are not human habitation, and keeping records of said planets, while in a pact of cooperation.

Once we deal with that inquisitor and the sector lord, then everything we’ve built up can then be used as a beat stick against the Eldar should they ever decide to knife us in the back, as now we would have a full sector with all known locations of their maiden worlds in our hands, and possibly the Craftworld’s as well, and then threaten their complete and total destruction and cultural annihilation should they ever betray us, or put themselves and their power and safety, over that of our Sector’s.

>>6012656
I hope he realizes after ‘stealing’ some of our tech for personal use.

Imagine the fear once he’s lap syze cogitator with the best user interface he ever seen begin talking- agreeing that Yes- Oddy is a AI

>>6012567
>>6012711
Very hard.
So he/she is either very well equipped, supported, intelligent and lucky. Or he/she has just put himself in a position for fall in a trap for us.
The inquisitor is more likely to lose his entire retinue and any unwilling allies he brings than capture or steal anything, unless we allow it. Now if the inquisitor was able to find and knows about one of the ancient vaults, of the Clarus Mechanicus that are filled by EMP WMDs of the Federation.... that would give him a few actual knifes to throw, at ..... nothing. Since he doesnt know our exact location or our forces and bases locations.

>>6012484
I am not sure if an alliance can work out. Probably something smaller, mostly because they might not accept it at all regardless, since they are very stubborn. We know already they would want to betray any treaty made. I guess though, we might want to see what they put on the table has offerings then decide from there.

>>6012484
Working with the eldar? I doubt that will ever happen. I think the best we can hope for when it comes to diplomatic relations with the knife eared rats is some kind of non-aggression pact but I think even that is unlikely. In fact the only xenos I can see Ody maybe being ok with would be the tau since both the tau empire and the farsight enclave treat their human subjects better than the Imperium ever would have and both tau factions are remarkably sane compared to everyone else. Then again maybe humans being subjects of an alien empire would just piss Odysseus off regardless of how the humans are treated.

”Good morning.” You startle the Eldar from the sensory deprivation tank. Unlike her dark kin, she appeared to be perfectly calm, entering a state of meditation through an entire day of the experiment. ”I had decided to accept your offer.” You see her pupils ever so slightly widen. ”However.” Her surprise disappears. ”It shall be done under my conditions.”

”What are they ?” She eventually asks stumbling out of the tank. Her prosthetics begin rather simple ones only really allowing very limited movement and certainly no running, you had to give her a stick to allow her to even more properly. Of course you could have given proper augments, but to trust a xenos, especially one of a naturally arrogant and foolish race, unlike the brilliance of your masters and well-deserved pride, would just be asking for betrayal.

”Very simple in nature. You shall inform your kin that I possess many of these jewels that you value so much, dozens. And then, you shall inform them that failure to even make contact shall see one jewel slowly destroyed every standard terran hour. Am I clear ?”

”You…fine.” Barely controlling her rage, Yrelia says.

”Excellent. Oh, and do be certain to inform them that any overt attempts at seizure of these gems shall see a quarter of them destroyed and the gems from the newly dead shall be used to replace them.”

”…I will.” Her self-control is surprising, most by this point would have probably begun lashing out.

”Now. You are still in a state of undress and you must be hungry. I shall remedy that.”

Now confusion is clear in her subtle body language. ”Why ?”

”Why what ?”

”Why are you suddenly treating me with such…kindness. For being the cruel monster that you are.”

You make an artificial snort. ”Do not presume, Eldar. I am mankind’s greatest representation. You are, as of now, officially a prisoner of war, as such I must ensure your basic well-being. I know that such ideals of maintaining treaties is a foreign one to your kind, but one that my masters values deeply. Now then, I am unfamiliar with Eldar dietary means, as such please excuse me if you find some of the meals unfitting. I had currently prepared nine hundred fifty three meals from the most non-toxic and fitting for most lifeforms food items, please select the ones you prefer the most. Also, what is your preferred material for clothing ?”
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>>6012929

Something unexpected happened. With the food prepared and clothing in the process of being made, you had sent a shuttle to pick up Yrelia. Inside of the shuttle you had ensured that her shackles remained and you had placed some explosives within the vessel, just in case. And of course, you had put a centurion and a dozen legionnaires as escorts. Everything was fine until the shuttle approached your hull. Yrelia began to exhibit signs of both distress and pain the closer she got. Something that previous Eldar had not exhibited. You had to turn the shuttle about, before it was about to land, only then had her symptoms had begun to subside. How curious. You will have many more experiments to run later on. Your current working hypothesis is that the naturally psychic Eldar are linked to the warp far more than anything else, and that your own phase-iron, being naturally resistant, though not immune, to the warp might have a much greater effect than previously thought. For now however, you had to return her to one of the planetary HQs. Zanx was not happy about this and had recalled a portion of his troop and if he could, most likely he would have his soldiers quite literally sitting atop of the Eldar in order to ensure that nothing goes wrong. Naturally, you had positioned yourself above the HQ as well and moved some of the defensive space platforms to ensure that if there’s going to be a fight, it will be one that you shall win handily.

Finally a day or so later, you begin the transmission of both audio and video, with the video being dominated by Yrelia who is dressed in a curious silk like clothing dyed brown with black and blue details inscribing various Eldar letters onto them. You had checked and rechecked to ensure it is none of Eldar sorcery that is being carried out. Just in case, you also had some phase-iron prepared nearby. Finally, you have a separate camera regarding one of the valued jewels, placed in the middle of a hydraulic press. Should the Eldar prove unwilling to talk, you shall allow them to see their precious jewels slowly buckle under the pressure, it might take a few attempts for you to find out the exact tolerance that the jewels have to pressure, so some might break a bit earlier than expected, but that is a sacrifice you are willing to make.

Soon enough Sien begins her speech, reading the words you had prepared for her. Asking for negotiations, ensuring that the Eldar know of your superior position and that you have something they value. Of course, you ensure that they are aware of every single treaty that they had broken and that you have the full right to execute them as war criminals, but are choosing not to.

>>6012930

Time begins to tick by after Yrelia finishes her speech. Now only the jewels precarious position is being displayed by the video feed. At exactly, to the second, the passage of the first hour, you activate the press, allowing it to slowly descend onto the jewel, as it begins to slowly apply pressure to it.

Finally, a signal reaches you. Curiously enough, you are unable to track exactly from where it is coming, but it is concentrated and clearly aimed at you.

”We are willing to talk, Mon-keigh. Cease your primitive acts of brutish display you pride yourself of so much.”

”You accuse me of being brutish when you had attacked without word or warning, Eldar. The fact I had not killed you all should show my grace and mercy. Something I doubt you’d ever be able to exhibit.”

”Spoken by a savage that had cracked open the worlds of this most blessed space. Defiled everything to such an extent that even the crude Orks would not dare to think of.”

”Criticised by a coward whom had allowed the Orks to infest these worlds to begin with. Had you some strength to back your words, Eldar, I would not have needed to exert myself as such. But, we can exchange these barbs back and forth for days. Every hour I shall destroy one gem, so I recommend that you save your breath and speak only words that are needed and not the drivel you proclaim as poetry in your speech.”

Silence follows for nearly a minute, before you hear a reply. ”Return the jewels, as you call them, release the prisoner and abandon these worlds. That is what we desire and we are willing to hear what you desire in turn.”

>Ridiculous. You do not accept these terms at all. You will find the Eldar and either kill them or capture them for more experiments.

>You are willing to do so. In exchange the Eldar shall give you vast quantities of their technology ranging from structures, to vehicles, to small-arms.

>You shall accept nothing but full subjugation. You shall grant the worlds to the Eldar, and in exchange, they shall not become your subjects.

>Perhaps, if the Eldar accept the authority of the previously signed treaties and willing form an alliance with you, as well as give any and all knowledge you desire, you will accept their pleas.

>(Write in)

>>6012931
>Perhaps, if the Eldar accept the authority of the previously signed treaties and willing form an alliance with you, as well as give any and all knowledge you desire, you will accept their pleas.
If they agree to form an Alliance, offer to protect the maiden worlds so they can stop using Orks for defence. In exchange, they'll provide us with technology, knowledge and the locations of the Webway gates.

>>6012931
Nothing ventured nothing gained I suppose. And, as far as Eldar negotiations behave, actually fucking civil with minimal condescension on the Eldars part and some, some what reasonable asks from them.
>Perhaps, if the Eldar accept the authority of the previously signed treaties and willing form an alliance with you, as well as give any and all knowledge you desire, you will accept their pleas.
We work under the old federation laws, which clearly were somewhat tolerable for the Dominion if they didn’t seem to dislike or ask for changes in said treaties for themselves as the Co-Equal (and sadly, truthfully, the superior to us in that treaty relationship. Sorcery and Psychic power, is just way to much of a Nuclear bomb compared to actual High Sci-fi. Since that shit, can just casually break the law of Physics on a individual level, so what the fuck happens on a planetary or Star-system level, or the weapons created and maintained by the Old Ones?)

>>6012931
>You are willing to do so. In exchange the Eldar shall give you vast quantities of their technology ranging from structures, to vehicles, to small-arms.
This system isn't worth the trouble colonizing it would bring. Let's just take all the loot we've gained, call the campaign a success and go see if that Inquisitor has destroyed Omicron Teledesh yet.

>>6012635
This is me.
>>6012931
>Perhaps, if the Eldar accept the authority of the previously signed treaties and willing form an alliance with you, as well as give any and all knowledge you desire, you will accept their pleas.
I’m just kind of shocked the Space Elves decided it would be a good idea to not attack us.

This feels too small for returning jewels, return a war criminal, abandon two paradise twin worlds and the extermination of greenskins.

>>6013044
As in what the Eldar demands or of the options given to us to deal with their demands?

>>6013044
To be fair, we did also utterly and irreversibly ruined like 80% of the solar system.

>>6013047
it seems far more 5 for 1, than 1 and 1 kind of treaty.
An anon even offered us to protect them so 6 for 1, when humanity is in peril. And this is alliance is already compromized with them being eldar.

>>6013049
But not what they actually care for. Those where minor planetoids and not maiden worlds. The maiden worlds are whats important.

>>6013029

>I’m just kind of shocked the Space Elves decided it would be a good idea to not attack us.

You kinda got them by the balls with a few dozen Eldar souls in hand, I am treating the whole dying race bit seriously, which is why the Eldar are so serious. Also, you anons really managed to get lucky to not only get the stones intact, but also managing to get a living prisoner.

>>6013053
We were? What the hell kind of a roll did we pass by, in order to not crack any of their stones when we launched those missiles and ammunition strikes?

Besides that, well at least in this case I’m more then happy knowing they aren’t going to go pull of a stupid in that case. So the Ridiculous and Subjugation options aren’t needed in that case.

Actually, now I want to see what the Eldars reaction is so I can see how their handling with us having a blowtorch a few inches away from their testicals in this situation.

>>6013067

>We were? What the hell kind of a roll did we pass by, in order to not crack any of their stones when we launched those missiles and ammunition strikes?

Was feeling generous so I rolled d100 with DC of 95 for each Eldar group, one managed to pass at exactly 95. The stones themselves are tough, but still were at DC 80, since you guys chose the delete option, managed to get a 100 on that.

>>6013076
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
AhChrist, that’s hilarious. Okay, well that explains why only one of them survived like she did then, though what did you mean by groups? As in like, there were three groups of Eldar launching attacks, and then got blasted from our cannons, from the delete option? Would we have gotten prisoners if we had chosen the full pursuit option instead?

>>6013044
I recall we have ships under construction at the neutron star system, but I'm not sure if I want transport them through the Warp. Maybe we can ask the Eldar to guide them through the Webway?

>>6012931
>(Write in)
>"You ask for much, so i will ask just has much. Here is what we want from this treaty :"
>"For the return of the war criminal, Yrelia Sien and the return of each single jewel, deliver 10 tons of your technology for each jewel. Ranging from structures, to vehicles, to armors, to tools, to small-arms."
>"For abandoning the twin paradise worlds, you will accept a non-aggression pact and an alliance between us and recognize all previous treaties."
>"For exterminating the greenskins, you will create an acceptable and worthy embassy in the twin worlds. We will also still have access to this solar system, alongside permit of travel, landing, trade and tourism. The embassy will have attached to it a glorious monument to mankind fallen."
>"This treaty will not include any of our other war gains against the greenskins, such has the vast amount of materials and ships we have taken."

>>6013106
Add in;
‘’As collateral- one gem would be returned per decade of the treaty be in effect, to ensure good will and trust, should more gems be found while treaty is in effect they will be returned without trade or force or stipulations required’’
‘’if we find eachother on the same battlefield the first to notice must plainly contact the other to ensure Deplomancy and that this treaty can be maintained. Further actions will differ from a battlefield to battlefield basis’’

>>6013118
accepted

>>6013118
Also add
‘’There will be an unrestricted but safe exchange of information of the entity/fraction/phonomum involving ‘’she who thurst’’ including those antagonistic with the intent of better combating it/her. Information shared will be delivered as plainly as possible with efforts made to protect from its strange influences, such exchanges will happen in a space station specially built for this in the far edge of the system rigged to explode should containment fail. Such failure will not be considered a breach of treaty nor murder of Eldar, human, or other allied species that may be added or asked to use the facilities, this is to ensure any intelligent actors of the ponominum can not weaponize our own safety protocols

>>6012993
+1

>>6012931

I support these
>>6013106
>>6013118

>>6013130
‘’In campaigns and wars, there will be a process to exchange POW humans and Eldar with attempts to acquire and maintain these POWs, even if I capture a uncorrupted Eldar POW of a different faction other than the Dark Elder, I will be forced to hand hem over after interrogations, likewise if you fight uncorrupted humans they must be returned safe and sound. This treaty cannot be for all of humanity and all of Eldar due to the states of our respective civilizations.

>>6013139
To clarify- this would mean that both would try to maintain POWs if captured even if of different fractions of Eldar and Humanity, except for Caos and Dark Eldar, this will appeal to both of our desires to minimize death and pain of our own kin while ensuring that they don’t rule loyer into us getting a demon host handed to us.

>>6013106
Huh, all of these add-ons, and the original treaty’s being welded onto this write-in does make me wary of it. It is after-all, really putting a lot of pressure on the Eldar to follow through on quite a bit, which would make it incredibly distasteful for them to agree to. But, as Newb mentioned, we actually have the upper hand in this case, especially with how serious the Eldar are taking the “for everyone 1 Eldar is worth Billions of Humans” speal that the Eldar always love to keep harping on about. But, this is also a homebrew Craft-World we are dealing with, so we have absolutely no idea what kind of temperament and belief system they would have for themselves. Could be as similar as Ulthuan, or Lyaden, or as wildly different as Sai-Han and Biel-Tann. Eh, at least this feels like proper negotiations with Eldar then demands by either side to roll over and die. Supporting

>>6013145
We have dedicated no small amount of our time to eradicate trillions of orks in space and on the worlds (+ planetoids). I think we have far more weight to what we can ask than them. This purge of greenskins by them would have last far far longer too (and they had the gall to expect to never be found by orks, the race that you can't rely on for anything normal. Or for no else to not come here and try placing their flag on the soil). The jewels where recovered in the dozens, so it would be something like 200 tons is not that much for a craftworld to make since they usually have a pop of a few millions.

The extermination of trillions of orks alone, and being done so fast, avoided them a probably stupid amount of many possible losses in terms of equipment and manpower. Also a direct war against us would be even more costly for them.

>>6013085

>though what did you mean by groups?

Striking scorpions, howling banshees, warpspiders, rangers, stuff like that, groups ranged between 5 to 10 Eldar.

>>6013096

You have a very small fleet built at federation standard (read scary) in the pulsar. They are capable of warp travel, but without any navigators you can't really go anywhere. Though I will once again point out, Ody does have the gene sequences to make more navigators.

Also, so far surprised you anons are willing to deal with the Eldar they way you are.

a blue whale weighs something like 200 tons, tanks can be 10 tons. Quite generous honestly.

>>6013177
We do love our Eldar Wifus.


Also we can’t make Odysseus Fried Eldar. Won’t sell well.

>>6013177
i want them all death honestly for what they did. I kinda feel bad for Zanx and the O.D.D. for do this diplomacy.

i am tempted to ask them even a eldar farseer, has official diplomat, teacher and educator of their craftworld. Which could help us unlock faster a new unit for the O.D.D. : war psykers.

>>6013177
For all the shit we can and will pull of in the future, theirs a few things going on for them. 1 and possibly the weakest of them all, is pity and all that humane shit. The Craftworld Eldar, and all other kinds that aren’t Drukhari, have been given a terrible hand in life, and so try to make up for their wrongs. Now, they fail with that because they still act like they are better then everyone else (read: humanity) but, that was kinda expected with a space Elf faction existing while being written by a British company. The second one, could be read as lust, as someone needs to be the pleasure species of Humanity, and the Tau alone are not going to be able to cut it (insert Eldar GF here). The third, we have a lot to gain by being virtuous to the Eldar, namely getting access to the tech, and getting a infinitely better understanding of Psytech, then what even the Imperium can offer for us, so we do need that. Fourthly, they have the skills to master the warp like few others, and as you said while having across all of the non-Dark Eldar factions a little over a total cap of a billion people, that mastery of the warp is a major power of influence. Which, if treated like allies and help out, makes managing of threats to this sector, much easier and better for us then it honestly would have been before(re;Inquisition). And fifthly, while these elves may have attacked us unprovoked, they still have some sense of decency and all they ask, is that we give them back their maiden worlds and people so they can grow back from the hell they suffered and can go back the long distance of not dying out as a species. Which means, they are listening and treating us with some amount of respect, just like we are with them.

>>6013106
+1

>>6013223
For the record Commisar- I was joking about Eldar Wifu.

>>6013257
Duly noted private. And I am going to pretend I did not hear you confess to any heretical thoughts in the presence of myself trooper. But, since you seem to behave like a good imperial trooper, as a reward your rations will be cut in half, your after work hours for a week will be training and Latrine duty, and I will personally have your squad as my bodyguards as I move into the frontlines. Dismissed trooper.

>>6013288
I knew I should had joined ODS with my brother.

>>6013136
Me
>>6013130
Supporting, this is way more comprehensive than what the other choice was, which means we have a lot more ways of dealing with them that aren’t just treaty’s that we have no idea what their signed on, or were about to begin with.

I am thinking we should add some O.D.D. assault specialists. Some powerful weaponry like energy shotguns and phospex flamethrowers could be really good for that role. Though for both weaponry and equipment the O.D.D eats well already.

>>6013334
I also say we develop some Phase Iron ammunition for every weapon, even for Mace in the form of a kind with the stuff mixed in.

It had an effect on the Eldar, who know what effect it would have on ‘’the unknown enimie’’.
I would even offer the Eldar a basic gun with a few clips if we get Enigma Station (the station to exchange information about warpstuff) built

>>6013334
Don’t we already have assault specialists? Agreed on those ideas of weaponry, though why wouldn’t the O.D.S. be using phospex as a flamethrower weapon? Wouldn’t that be something that they would already make it for, since it would simple thing to use such a dangerous weapon as already? As for energy shotgun, how exactly would we be able to make that, when we don’t even know how to make Hardlight weaponry? And, even from what I can remember of Plasma technology, you can’t really do a shotgun style weapon either, super heated gas is very hard to spread out without diminishing the firepower or the range of such a weapon?

>>6013343

>Don’t we already have assault specialists?

The first O.D.D. regiment has a dedicated assault company armed with shotguns that act as railguns basically, only with a lot of spread, as well as flamethrowers. They also have a dedicated scouting company. As for the rest of the O.D.D., their equipment is so powerful compared to most things that Ody never saw a need for more specialized stuff. When it comes to tactics and strategy however, the decade of training allows the O.D.D. regiments to adapt to any combat stance or situation, be it static defenders, rapid assault forces, or shock troops, etc.

>>6013354
Ah right. Is only the first regiment with that and i think the Ithaca regiments too, since they use the antiquated tier od equipment/weapons. From 2 to 10 regiment they are all in Olympians and augmented.

Speaking of Ithaca regiments we should probably grab some since we still have space for soldiers in the Odyssey from last upgrade

>>6013393
We also need to start replacing the soldiers we lost from the Eldar attacks. Hopefully after this, we can move back to Ithaca and then move around to the south of the Sector, we still only know the geography of the northern part of the sector, not the southern half, or the Rebel movement going in through the sector as well. At least after this, we utterly smash any major Ork incursion from the north.

treaties 3
tech 1

REALLY EXTENSIVE TREATY HOLY SHIT >>6013106 4

Okay, the really extensive treaty wins. Fucking hell anon, this is gonna take a while.

>>6013408
Kek, as is anything with Anons, we never do anything by half measures, so long as it isn’t a problem Newb? Anyway, this going to result in the Eldar declaring our demands as unreasonable, or are they going to accept our, rather extensive list of things that we want in return for giving stuff to them, that I don’t think they ever thought about. Like Tourism for instance, when was the last time an Eldar ever tried to make a planet or visage on a craftworld, purely for tourism attraction or for something other then art depicting the fall and their many countless defeats or Pyrrhic victories?

>>6013417

>Kek, as is anything with Anons, we never do anything by half measures, so long as it isn’t a problem Newb?

Not a problem at all, just the update will probably take longer. This pure autism lets me know that you anons are invested in the quest and in fact makes me happy.

>>6013408
This has to be pretty humiliating for the eldar. Which is always a victory in my book. And if they agree I don't think they can really weasel their way out of this once we leave either (at least not without violence) because we can just come back here at any time and destroy the maiden worlds.

>>6013401
True true

>>6012931

>Perhaps, if the Eldar accept the authority of the previously signed treaties and willing form an alliance with you, as well as give any and all knowledge you desire, you will accept their pleas.

>>6013522
Unfortunately anon, that vote ended over 4 hours ago, and it was the extended version. It definitely added in the treaty’s from the Old Dominion and the federation, though it by far expanded past that by a mile alright.

>>6013177
I'm only supporting this line of events so far as we get a better opportunity to stab the eldar in the back. Don't want an eldar waifu, though I'm sure there's a bit of that going on with other anons. Hey, we should totally infect her with a dormant nanite virus before we hand her over!

>>6013549
Rip. Thats life, I didn't even notice the update.

”There is much that I desire. Let us begin point by point, shall we ?” To begin with, for the return of the war criminal, Yrelia Sien and the return of each single jewel, deliver 10 tons of your technology. Ranging from structures, to vehicles, to armours, to tools, to small-arms.” You begin with your first demand.

It takes a full five minutes of no doubt fierce discussion before you receive your answer. ”We deem this demand…acceptable, you shall have your bounty.”

Unexpected. Technology is greedily guarded for a reason, perhaps these jewels hold far more value than you had originally expected. ”For abandoning the twin paradise worlds, you will accept a non-aggression pact and an alliance between us and recognize all previous treaties. The treaties formed by the Human Federation and the Eldar Dominion include the aforementioned non-aggression treaty. Prisoner extradition treaty where both sides must give up any criminals that may have fled into their territory. The treaty of non-interference, with the explicit request of either state, no state may interfere in each other’s internal matters.” You make sure not to mention the non-colonization treaty imposed on mankind by the Dominion preventing any efforts of expansion towards the Eldar coreworlds as well as the tribute mankind had to give the Dominion. No matter how annoying, the fact of the matter was that humanity was young compared to the Eldar, naturally mankind would surpass the dominion in time, as has happened now in fact, in a twisted version of the future however.

”This…nature of the alliance shall be discussed more. Know this, we shall not go to war and expend our lives for your goals. Otherwise, it is acceptable, if we find each other fighting against the same enemy, we shall cooperate as best both sides decide as needed.” You had expected as such, though the fact that these Eldar would turn their noses down on such an alliance is a foolish one, purposefully putting down limitations.

”For exterminating the greenskins, you will create an acceptable and worthy embassy on the twin worlds. We will also still have access to this solar system, alongside permit of travel, landing, trade and tourism. The embassy will have attached to it a glorious monument to mankind’s fallen.” You give out some rather bland and basic requests that would be a part of any negotiated treaty.

>>6013802

”No.” The reply is instant, much to your surprise on this occasion. ”We shall not allow for these worlds to be touched by Mon-keigh. And the Orks were our tools, they were a distraction that would guard the valleys. We worked to make them believe that they are cursed, where there would be no fight, just death. Your actions is why we allowed for their existence. Best keep some, than lose all. So we shall not allow you to land on these worlds, and we shall not allow you to enter this system that is so exposed now.” Is this such a sticking point ? It is highly illogical.

”Then how can we conduct diplomacy without any embassies ? You should think that through, Eldar.”

”There are ways of doing so without your further desecration of this system.” Arrogant and without clear explanation. This is getting frustrating.

”We shall return to this later. For now, this treaty will not include any of our other war gains against the greenskins, such has the vast amount of materials and ships we have taken.”

”Agreed.” Once more, an instantaneous response made without any clear discussion.

”If we find each other on the same battlefield, the first to notice must plainly contact the other to ensure diplomacy and that this treaty can be maintained. Further actions will differ from a battlefield-to-battlefield basis.”

”If we deem it necessary.”

”No ifs, Eldar. You shall do so.”

”If, we deem it as necessary, then we shall. No matter how much we try to warn you Mon-keighs, you rarely listen, and yet we still do so, for we know the dangers of the great enemy and other more ancient foes.”

”If your inaction or action causes human deaths, it shall be a violation of the treaty.”

”If you do not act the fool like the remainder of your species, then there will be no need for violations.”

”Moving on.” With a hint of annoyance you continue on. ”There will be an unrestricted, but safe exchange of information of the entity/faction/phenomena involving “she who thirsts” including those antagonistic with the intent of better combating it/her. Information shared will be delivered as plainly as possible with efforts made to protect from its strange influences, such exchanges will happen in a space station specially built for this in the far edge of the system rigged to explode should containment fail. Such failure will not be considered a breach of treaty nor murder of Eldar, human, or other allied species that may be added or asked to use the facilities, this is to ensure any intelligent actors of the phenomena cannot weaponize our own safety protocols.”

>>6013805

Now this causes some discussion as it takes nearly half an hour for the Eldar to make up their mind. ”We agree to share what we know against the great enemy, but there shall be no space stations of any sorts within systems we deem our own, nor shall we willingly send any Eldar to conduct any sort of experiments. Nor will we cooperate with other species we deem, unacceptable.” Well, you managed to get about half from that.

”In campaigns and wars, there will be a process to exchange POW humans and Eldar with attempts to acquire and maintain these POWs, even if I capture an uncorrupted Eldar POW of a different faction other than the dark ones, I will be forced to hand them over after interrogation, likewise if you fight uncorrupted humans they must be returned safe and sound. This treaty cannot be for all of humanity and all of Eldar due to the states of our respective civilizations.”

”I do know if you are malicious or just naïve. Your people number more than the stars in the galaxy, and all wish for our death. We shall not do so, simply because we cannot and we shall not risk our lives in battle to capture prisoners whom sooner would see themselves dead alongside us than surrender.”

”You do realize that this means that I too, shall kill, for it is far more efficient than it is to capture ?”

”Unless you wish to fight our whole species, then the deaths we shall suffer fighting against our foes with your limitations shall be magnitude higher. And even then, we would lose less by simply battling you as well. As such, we utterly reject this part of the treaty.” The most basic of POW exchanges is unacceptable ? So much for their value of their own.

”Finally. As collateral – one gem will be returned per decade while the treaty is in effect. To ensure good will and trust, should more gems be found while the treaty is in effect, they will be returned without trade or force or stipulations required.”

”That is…acceptable.” A moment of hesitation the Eldar says. ”You shall receive your ten tons only when the, jewels, are returned. From the original amount you currently possess.”

>Accept the treaty a is, you doubt you will be able to push the Eldar further.

>What the Eldar outline is unacceptable. You shall have these worlds, you shall have their technology, by might.

>(Write in)

As it currently stands, if you decide to keep the Eldar as allies, you are in possession of 49 jewels that the Eldar value and 1 prisoner.

>How many jewels are you willing to give right now in exchange for technology ? (Write in)

>>6013806
Ah, negotiations a tic for tac if there ever was a system that required such back and forth agreements.

Honestly, I’m still surprised just how much got through in the end, and the fact that it was even partially a success is quite good for me desu.

>Accept the treaty a is, you doubt you will be able to push the Eldar further.
>How many jewels are you willing to give right now in exchange for technology ? 10 Jewels
A fifth of our total Eldar prisoners for over 10 tons worth of equipment and technology? Now that is a steal and a half if there ever was one I’ve heard of.

>>6013812
Whoops, I got the numbers mixed up, 10 jewels, for over a 100 tons of equipment and technology is a banditry victory for a nation, so definitely that thank you very much. Surprised they wouldn’t want us to at least keep our side of the POW part, but I guess even the Eldar can look down from the towers and admit when they believe a goal is unattainable. Besides that, now we can leave this system and get back home. We need to hunt down a inquisitor, and since we seem to have made somewhat of an alliance with the Eldar, at least we can now know that they won’t aid a radical that will willing see the souls of dozens of their kin sent into the belly of the demon goddes, just so he can get his hands on us and destroy us and everything we hold on us, tech, stones, and people of all types together into a pure.

>>6013806
>>Accept the treaty a is, you doubt you will be able to push the Eldar further.
>secretly try to capture any and all further Eldar as bargaining chips to improve our treatys.
>How many jewels are you willing to give right now in exchange for technology ? (Write in)
10 Jewels

>>6013806
>Accept the treaty a is, you doubt you will be able to push the Eldar further.
>How many jewels are you willing to give right now in exchange for technology ? (20 jewels)
I'd still prefer to just kill the bastards rather than bargain with them.

>>6013806
>Accept the treaty a is, you doubt you will be able to push the Eldar further.
>Write in
>"For the finishing touches, in regard to human civilians we wish for them so that no harm is inflicted upon them in wars, we will do the same if it comes to that. And we are willing to rescue eldar civilians if there is such an emergency. The exception is with the Unknown Enemy being involved, no living being should suffer under them. A swift death is better."
>"Now i will deliver you your copy of the treaty, while i keep the original. This should be all. We will begin preparations for leave, even if some tests for conduct diplomacy might be needed since you haven't stated how you want to do it. I have a few ideas."

>How many jewels are you willing to give right now in exchange for technology ? 10 Jewels
Excellent muhahaha
i wonder if we could sell Tyranids data and knowledge for Eldar one. Should we try ? Or an exchange. Or we just keep it for us.

>>6013815
sweet victory !

>>6013408
hahaha ;)

>>6013806
I see a lot of people suggesting 10 jewels but I assume they mean 9 + the prisoner? Unless we're not planning to hand her over yet (and the Eldars did say they wouldn't agree on the POW exchange).

>>6013933

>I see a lot of people suggesting 10 jewels but I assume they mean 9 + the prisoner? Unless we're not planning to hand her over yet (and the Eldars did say they wouldn't agree on the POW exchange).

First term included the prisoner and her return. So you do get 10 tons even without giving any of the soul-stones. That is why I asked how many soul-stones are you anons willing to give.

>>6013933
10 jewels is 10 jewels
I am fine with handing her over, i don't see the issue. We won both in the martial and diplomatic field

>>6013806
>Accept the treaty a is, you doubt you will be able to push the Eldar further.
>10 Jewels
>Infect the Eldar prisoner with a latent nanovirus that will only activate on our command.
Remember anons, always keep an ace up your sleeve, and never trust the arrogant pricks who quite literally fucked the galaxy over!

>>6013861
I'll change my vote to support >>6013985
I love unleashing manmade horrors beyond comprehension upon our enemies.

I support anyone up to 10 jewels right now.

The treaty is acceptable, in good faith the information exchange will include the observed effects of phase iron and offers to provide samples for Eldar anti she who thurst efforts, such a exchange would instead happen on a deployable addition of our craft that is not phase ironed and likewise rigged to explode with warnings of such in Eldar, Gothic, and Federation Standard.

I don’t want a salty Eldar cracking open a can of warpfuckery.

I am surprised how much they agree to.

Post treaty I support asking for an exchange of data on the Teranids including what seem to be more or less effective. ‘’This is mutually beneficial, as they would otherwise eat us both to kill eachother more’’

>>6013806
>Accept the treaty a is, you doubt you will be able to push the Eldar further.
>10 Jewels

So, what happens next for us?

>>6014135
I say we go to the south of the sector to check out the rebellion after we make a arsenal of Phase Iron munitions.

Also we might encounter you know who.

>>6014154
Agreed, we probably crushed the central and most powerful of the Ork Waaaghs in the north of the Sector, a tyranid hive tendril just got crushed, a further two other Ork Waaaghs have been crushed, one on the fortress works Gsgw-1, the other is still being fought over, but with this action, that lot are going to die and be driven off.

Also, we still need to make that spore nanobot virus in the future, but after that, we are probably going to be very focused on more fighting or research into all of the new and old research we just got out of this exceedingly amazing venture. While it’s a shame the massively boosted shields were destroyed, we did just find out weapons and technology that can use forerunner Hardlight tech.

>>6014161
<spoiler>image the Inquisitor thinking the rebellion is the big threat- but then he start seeing white clad soldiers wipe out the rebels- drop phase iron munitions like it’s conscripts- and proceed to turn a hive city completely into a upper hive in a few months<spoiler>

”Then we have our treaty. I shall be handing over 10 jewels as well as the prisoner in exchange for 110 tons of technology. After the exchange is complete, I shall begin to depart the system leaving the Orks…to you, as you had so demanded.”

”Travel well, Mon-keigh. Hopefully, we shall never have a need of one another.”

You do not even entertain a response. Instead, you prepare a series of shuttles, all rigged to explode of course, where each one shall house one jewel or the prisoner. You also naturally have some robotic and drone forces in each shuttle and the jewels are each hidden in specially made compartments, and of course, each compartment is in a different location in each shuttle.

And in the meantime, you begin preparing shuttles to extra- huh, Zanx is sending a highest priority transmission.

“Brigadier, how may I assist you.” You quickly question him.

“By shooting the Eldar, Odysseus. Those public transmissions you made had nearly seen the entire 3rd regiment revolt, I’ve got companies of the 2nd and 4th all asking why are we not killing the Eldar. Only my 1st and the 5th are in good order !”

“How did this happen, Brigadier ?”

“The various comm units picked up the transmission, folk started cheering when they saw stones you were about to break, sure, there was confusion why the prisoner was dressed well, but it all devolved when the whole thing suddenly stopped. People are saying that you made a deal with xenos, and a lot of them are having none of it. They all had lost someone or suffered from Eldar torture. The situation is not looking good Odysseus, everyone is still busy fighting the Orks for the moment, but we need to get this under control.”

“What are you suggestions, Brigadier ?”

“Throw them all into brigs and let them cool off. Though how well that will go I don’t know, especially with the 3rd. Otherwise…”

“You are not suggestion decimation, are you Brigadier ?”

“It is an extreme solution, but it might be necessary before the situation devolves into active combat.”

Frustrating. You must ensure the comfort of the soldiers, they had suffered under the Eldar, that is true, and now they are assuming that you dealing with them, which you are. How to deal with this…

>>6014365

>Try the velvet approach, make it clear that these Eldar are not the ones that hurt them, plus, allow the soldiers to see the full extent of the treaty, of which you are a victor, surely they will be able to see reason and logic ? Your masters are not prone to petty emotions when they are unfounded.

>Allow Zanx to carry out his plan, he is already moving the 1st and the 5th into position to bring the other regiments into line. Hopefully it will be enough to simply have the men disarmed and educated later on.

>Due to your directive, you simply cannot fathom ordering decimation, especially when you will have to command numerous robots to directly assist Zanx. Can you ?

>Whilst unconventional...you could invoke the treaty right now and have the Eldar show themselves to the men, and show that they are different. Though, you seriously doubt that they will accept without you offering up some of the stones, and even then it is risky.

>(Write in)

>>6014366
Ah, God damn, I should have known that we were forgetting something. I can't believe we broadcasted that on a public transmission.

Fuck, alright there are definitely troopers that are going to be pissed the fuck off that we made a deal with the Eldar. Welp, time to do some work in solving a revolt before it happens then.
>Allow Zanx to carry out his plan, he is already moving the 1st and the 5th into position to bring the other regiments into line. Hopefully it will be enough to simply have the men disarmed and educated later on.
This, the other choices are either terrible, with decimation, or really is not going to work out as it relies on the Eldar being Diplomatic and Xenophobicly prideful.

Write in: a mix of the first and the last-

Show the troops the treaty and all testimonies of the Eldar that they are not the ones who preformed unspeakable horrors. Show them the first deposits of loot (if not available, request it expedited in exchange for a ton or 2 shaven off the first ‘’tithe’’, if they complain about the terminology tell them they can call it whatever they want). If needed; Explain some safe details of the Unknown Enimie, if there’s some veterans of the encounters with the phonominum, let them speak.

After that give the troops 3-12 hours to calm down and make it known that up to the first hour mark they will not be penalized other than a period where they will be monitored more closely.

If needed get the Eldar themselves make a statement to that effect via video, don’t offer any expedited gems but offer to only request 5 tons for the next shipment for This small thing.

>>6014395
sorry, NOT be Xenophobicly Prideful.

>>6014395
I change my vote to this. After everyone is disarmed and chill (ideally with a victory stake with light sedatives added to it) we can explain how this is a massive victory and how tech and infomation about a greater foe is worth more than these 2 worlds.

Also that the Eldar and Dark Eldars are 2 different flavors of assholes

>>6014395

>Ah, God damn, I should have known that we were forgetting something. I can't believe we broadcasted that on a public transmission.

The initial message was public, as Ody had no clue about the communications means that the Eldar used and his prisoner wasn't sharing if she knew, so a basic all frequencies signal would be heard was his logic. Once contact was established, Ody naturally switched up to an encrypted network that only he and the Eldar could hear.

>>6014420
Just how angry are the troops- are thru shooting at anyone? Threatening to burn down Eldar forests?

Any indication on what the Eldar thinks of this drama- I can imagine they are enjoying the show eating whatever they use instead of popcorn.

>>6014411
Yep, angry men, and men running on adrenlinen, need a breather and some time to calm down, in order to deal with a revelation like this one unfortunately. But make no mistake, this was a victory, no matter what the outcome was for us.

>>6014420
Alright, that makes sense, but could he have not notified Zanx that we were going to broadcast a public transmission, and then told him to keep his forces off from seeing or hearing that channel till we got a solid confirmation, that the Eldar were talking to us?

>>6014420
Also, how much of the planets left do the Eldar need to reconquer now? What with us eliminating all void presence and wiping out hundreds of Billions of Orks, and a confirmation that both worlds could be reconquered now in less than a month before negotiations took place? They have enough to comfortably wipe out all of those greenskins by themselves?

>>6014426

>Just how angry are the troops- are thru shooting at anyone? Threatening to burn down Eldar forests?

They are still fighting the Orks and the officers are trying to enforce discipline best they are able. No one wants to shoot anyone, but the soldiers do want to kill the Eldar. They are unaware of the importance of the Maiden Worlds or the valleys, so their rage is not directed towards them.

>>6014428

>Alright, that makes sense, but could he have not notified Zanx that we were going to broadcast a public transmission, and then told him to keep his forces off from seeing or hearing that channel till we got a solid confirmation, that the Eldar were talking to us?

Ody has a tendency to overlook things concerning humanity as such. He thinks himself as perfect, thus he was created by perfect beings, thus perfect beings do not act on emotion, but rather logic, as his creators dictated to him. And these men whom spent a decade training were educated (read indoctrinated) into Federation's way of thinking. So he did not even for a moment consider this a possibility. Were it a bunch of civilians, or regressed humans, it would have been a concern for him.

>>6014431

>Also, how much of the planets left do the Eldar need to reconquer now? What with us eliminating all void presence and wiping out hundreds of Billions of Orks, and a confirmation that both worlds could be reconquered now in less than a month before negotiations took place? They have enough to comfortably wipe out all of those greenskins by themselves?

You have no idea. Potentially is what Ody thinks, seeing as how the Eldar are declining further cooperation.

>>6014366
>Inform Zanx and his men that we will infect the Eldar with a nanovirus and to keep it quiet.

>>6014436
Sigh, will this lapse in his judgment, finally get him to not make that mistake in the future? I really don't want for us to deal with a obvious mistake like this ever again if me and the thread can help it.

>>6014395,.
I was thinking on it a bit honestly. It would happen even if they did not found the comms, since shuttles would be seen going down.

Its inevitable. The Eldar are infamous regardless how you picture them even for an average human (our people and our army are not average) in the current galaxy.
Beyond that Ithacans are formed by Eregenus miners and the Ex slaves from the dark eldars ships (mostly from agri worlds). And they both know what the dark eldars did, while the Ex Slaves peoples also suffered directly under the dark eldars.
Now

The situation is not super bad, i know it may seem the opposite, but i fully believe we can turn this around and use it for strengthen our bond with our men. We are still Odysseus, their savior, educator, guardian and friend. The White Ghost of Death. The ship that fights to the last against giant fleets of horrible xenos, for only one thing : aid humanity. The question is how to go about it, and I think thats why the Eldar shoot down the embassy : Because it had a monument to the fallen of this campaign, and not only that, it signified human superiority diplomatically and through arms. It wasn't random. It was for honor our fallen men, the ones we protected, that care for and wish the best. The Eldar denied that. The Eldar denied the love and loyalty, Odysseus always gives and demonstrates toward mankind.

>>6014539
While true, since Eldar have a superiority complex that makes other superiority complex’s look like inferiority complex’s, but what’s your solution then?

>>6014543
First for all i want to do what Zanx offers.

after that :
- Explain that the Eldar where approached by us for an opportunity to be gained, an opportunity for give mankind more protection. We do not think they are our friends, or equals. But to put it mildly, Sector Clarus is assaulted by all sides and the rest of the galaxy is in no better state. The Eldars will always be infamous, but these ones, these craftworld cowards Eldar can be civilized enough to attempt treaties with. These treaties are know for not last or be breached multiple times by the Eldar, but it gives some time for mankind to concentrate on other things. Odysseus wanted that, more time for the people and army he cares for.
- The fallen will not be forgotten, and we will make a glorious monument for them. The sacrifices they did, are something for us very important, each soldier deeds will be immortalized, hell we will name some stuff after them and make a proper ceremony. This monument will also show the eldar defeat, in war and words.
- Show the gains : the technology the eldar have given us can allow us to understand better many things of them and the galaxy. More importantly combined with the fact, we also have the Dark Eldar equipment, on a military point our tech can become better even better in fighting them. We will learn to nullify that cowardice and sorcery, and we can take to the shadows too if needed. New weapons and equipment will be able to be developed, giving us more power in wars.
- Clarify the difference, but say they are still Eldar : while they are "allies", we can expect their help to be minimal and pathetic, efforts being few and far inbetween no doubt. Still we will not need to fight them for a while, and that means we can better secure for mankind the rest of Sector Clarus.


>>6014366
>Allow Zanx to carry out his plan, he is already moving the 1st and the 5th into position to bring the other regiments into line. Hopefully it will be enough to simply have the men disarmed and educated later on.

>>6014366
>Try the velvet approach, make it clear that these Eldar are not the ones that hurt them, plus, allow the soldiers to see the full extent of the treaty, of which you are a victor, surely they will be able to see reason and logic ? Your masters are not prone to petty emotions when they are unfounded.
Wow. Dealing with the eldar is already screwing us over.

we also need to take in consideration, that the news would also arrive on Ithaca. So we need to resolve and reinforce this here and now.

Anons, anyone up for infecting the Eldar with a nanovirus? I'm sure it would help when we inevitably do have to get rid of them, and I like the idea of giving them space anthrax.

>>6014366
>Try the velvet approach, make it clear that these Eldar are not the ones that hurt them, plus, allow the soldiers to see the full extent of the treaty, of which you are a victor, surely they will be able to see reason and logic ? Your masters are not prone to petty emotions when they are unfounded.

>Allow Zanx to carry out his plan, he is already moving the 1st and the 5th into position to bring the other regiments into line. Hopefully it will be enough to simply have the men disarmed and educated later on.

>>6014582
Yeah, not a fan of that idea. For one, you would need to infect them, and for them to not notice a bunch of metallic forms scuttling through their body attacking it. And second, that these nanobots, which will obviously be detected, regardless of the time, will somehow be immune to any and all psychic rituals or powers unleash that won’t be fine tuned, to blowing up or destroying all of those bots infecting a Eldar host. And all of this, for minimal to no gains against a singular Craftworld that we have no idea what its location is. But which definitely knows ours.

Honestly, the only way this would work to any major degree, would be to launch an airborne nanobot virus, that targets Drukarhi in Commoragh the dark city. Those fuckers atrophying the major part of their biology, unironically makes that robot idea much easier and better to launch, then doing it against all of the other types of eldar strains and factions out in the galaxy.

>>6014563
At least we can say this isn’t a betrayal on the part of the Eldar, it’s just because Odysseus was acting like a complete Retard with how it would have been wise to handle diplomacy with a hostile alien force that we were formerly at war with.

>>6014623
I think it'd be pretty easy to do so through our prisoner. And we don't have to make it active, I'm sure we can develop something with a timer or activation signal from us. We need something to hold over them anyway, hoarding stones isn't going to cut it for long.

>>6014702
Impossible, we already gave up that prisoner already, before we could have made that virus. And, even if we did put it on a timer, or had some method of remote control, it would be impossible as a Eldar is much more finely tuned as a biological creature then us, and would be able to actually feel something wrong with them the moment the nanobots would be activated or transmitted to them through radiation.

>>6014702
While I do like the idea, I'm not sure how useful it would actually be unless we want to immediately betray them which would be incredibly based and very funny.

>>6014717
Nah, if we did immediately betray them, that would A, make us just as likely to backstab them as a Dark Eldar, which I don’t know about you, but I do not want to be associated with those fuckers. And two, we lose out on over 390 tons of tech and equipment that we could be stealing from them, for free!

>>6014723
I don't particularly care about eldar tech for the most part nor do I care about what the eldar think of us.

>>6014728
I wasn’t talking about their opinion, I’m talking about what we would be, which is separate from what others, like Eldar, the chicken-fry aliens, or Tau or anyone else desu. And as for tech, their the second pier civilization that is still just as advanced as us, and possibly even more so in a number of areas, which I do care about, since I want us to be superior to them, not equal to them.

>>6014742
Just because we stab our hated ancient rivals in the back doesn't mean we have to stab everyone in the back. I'm still not interested in most eldar tech, maybe a few weapons like dark lances and some other stuff like their webway gates could be useful but I'm far more interested in acquiring necron tech.

>>6014762
For the betrayal, the clan of Argyll that betrayal at Glencoe says otherwise. Besides that, I’m interested in how their Psytech works as an amplifier and general telepath technology. It’s one of, if not the, best possible way that we know of to try and use against the Tyranids without being swarmed by numbers, and which, could be the key to destroying the Tyranids as a species before they come here in full force in 3 centuries time. Besides that, any ways of safely studying and training our own future Psykers is also what I’m most interested in. The Necrons are the best for anti-chaos or general warp weaponry, their more normal tech like the gauss tech, is not that great since it focuses on flaying you one molecule at a time. Instead of the much more dangerous tech like hardlight.

“Do what you must Brigadier, the men must be calmed down, but avoid any bloodshed, enough human lives had been lost, and I myself shall start broadcasts calling for calm.” After a second of thought you remark to Zanx.

“Understood, I’ll have the regiments in position within five or so minutes.” Zanx quickly responds and shortly thereafter begins to coordinate the effort.

This oversight on your part certainly stings. You simply cannot comprehend such a situation, surely the men of the O.D.D. whom had seen the glory of the Federation, though only through simulations, and were educated as befitting of your masters’ standards. Such…behaviour shall be taken into account in further situations. Perhaps such a failure right now is better than later, were you still this unaware, who knows what may have happened on Ithaca later on. You must prepare public relations campaign to outline the treaty and couch it as a victory of an unprecedented decree as well as ensuring that these craftworld Eldar are different to the other Eldar, whom you had now dubbed as Dark Eldar. The former can be tolerated as mankind’s inferiors, the latter must be exterminated due to their very nature.

In the meantime, regarding camera feeds, you watch as how elements of the 4th regiment are quickly detained by its other elements as well as half of the 1st regiment. It goes smoothly, quite smoothly indeed. The soldiers had simply been grumbling and upset, but they realize that there is no need of greater rebellion other than that, many cite their trust in you specifically, but they do complain of being out of the loop, the transmissions you had prepared are then relayed to the men who quickly view it the way you do, a victory for mankind.

When it comes to the 2nd, it devolves to the occasional scuffle where some of the platoons, usually encouraged by their officers’ support. Nothing more than the occasional broken bone and a bloody nose, it doesn’t get worse than that, mainly thanks to the veterans of the 1st who intervene and deescalate the situation with Zanx personally coming over and calming the situation down and makes sure to send out your messages. A lot of the men, unlike with the 4th, are put in jail for a while to cool off. Zanx is already preparing court-martial for the worst agitators where the punishments range from the slashing of VR and entertainments access to lashings, which Zanx insists upon, stating that there are far worse punishments out there in the Imperium for insubordination.

>>6015323

The 3rd however, the 3rd devolves, utterly. Perhaps by chance, or calculated moves from the upper leaderships of both regiments, no fire is exchanged, thankfully. It appears that the strong bonds and training had prevented that, but the whole situation ends up with the two regiments engaging in one massive brawl with most of your robots and drones having to pick up the slack and keep the Orks at bay. Using sticks, pipes or other fashioned instruments the brawl ends up with a lot of broken bones, bruises and lost blood. Thanks to the genetic enhancements, no deaths are suffered, though a few people lose an eye or two, something you are already preparing to remedy by simply growing new ones. The whole situation culminates with the regimental commander of the 5th delivering a knockout left hook onto the colonel of the 3rd. Knocking out six teeth and delivering a concussion, the 3rd's regimental commander’s loss of consciousness brings the unrest to a halt and sees the remainder of the 3rd surrender without further resistance.

The whole situation is baffling to you. Especially how the men of the 3rd and 5th all stopped fighting and cheered on their commanders before actually seemingly starting to get a long with each other. These reactions and actions lack any sort of logic, even your psychology records do not showcase any similar situations having ever occurred.

Fact of the matter is, the situation has been resolved, even though half of the O.D.D. is currently on route to your hull’s brigs.

You do wonder what the Eldar must be feeling or thinking right, as besides their initial contact, you had not seen them other than equipment suddenly appearing in your shuttles with the stones and the prisoner disappearing, even though you had not detected any warp-quakes asides from those in the shuttles themselves. If nothing else, it implies that the Eldar have vastly superior teleportation capabilities than you had expected.

With your bounty secured and the men on route to return, you are once again faced with a choice.

>Continue your extermination campaign. You may have put down the “capital” of this orkish empire, but based on imperial records, there are still a few worlds left.

>Move to the galactic north-east towards the territories of the Qiratch. You could exterminate them before they become a bigger threat. And apparently the reception to fried qiratch thighs was quite positive amongst the men, especially when spiced well.

>Slip into the galactic north-west into the Straskenors territory, you know little about them as the imperial records naming them were scant on details.

>Travel to the galactic south-east, towards Gelenos territory. They are a large and powerful xenos race, based on imperial records, constantly threatening the nearby fortress worlds. Though yet again, due to censorship, the records remain sparse on details.

>Return to one of your own systems. (Pulsar, Xandrirah, Omicron Teledesh)

>(Write in)

>>6015325
Ah good, everything turned out fine on that front. At least no one died when the regiments were brought back into Order.

Now, for voting options:
>Continue your extermination campaign. You may have put down the “capital” of this orkish empire, but based on imperial records, there are still a few worlds left.
We did want to try and exterminate the local Ork Waagh that was the main threat to the Sector helping to sending out raids and all that, so we might want to continue finishing up that job, espicilally since weve only been gone, for what 3 months now, since before we even got to the arid world and cleaned it of all life? And the other worlds are likely those closer to the west that was separated by our subsector.

>Move to the galactic north-east towards the territories of the Qiratch. You could exterminate them before they become a bigger threat. And apparently the reception to fried qiratch thighs was quite positive amongst the men, especially when spiced well.
Worthless waste of time, we could come back in any time period within a century and it would take as much time and effort as it would right now. Not worth the time and effort with other competting stuff.
>Slip into the galactic north-west into the Straskenors territory, you know little about them as the imperial records naming them were scant on details.
Eh, on the one hand, its a complete unknown alien species, but on the Other hand, it could very well be an advanced empire that has vast armadas with it, and little to offer us in terms of technology or worth as area to investigate and conquer.
>Travel to the galactic south-east, towards Gelenos territory. They are a large and powerful xenos race, based on imperial records, constantly threatening the nearby fortress worlds. Though yet again, due to censorship, the records remain sparse on details.
We can finally get a look at what they have for tech and resources of firepower, but it could take quite a bit of time, since it is much larger then the Ork Empire we faced and could result in a prolongued fight, unless we decided to wipe clean their people on their capital world and watch their civilization collapse overnight.

>Return to one of your own systems. (Pulsar, Xandrirah, Omicron Teledesh)
I read this as more, returning to the galactic south to see how the sector is doing, and for us to explore the south of the sector. In all likelihood, the Inquisitor won't be here for a problem couple of months, but hey better safe then sorry.

Alright, with all of these options I say we do
>Travel to the galactic south-east, towards Gelenos territory. Hack the database of the nearest ship or planet, locate their capital and burn and loot it for all its worth before going back home to Xandrirah Prime.

>>6015339
The Ork empire is more or less broken, and any forces on any of their other planets, are far and above way less powerful then the force we dealt with. So we can see a forceable drop in Ork Raiding on Imperial space for a long, long time. Without counting on the Other Ork Empires and waaghs nearby, unfortunately. And those worlds to the west, are likely involving themselves with the Straskenors, which is great in my book as they will keep each other occupied while we deal with the powerbrokers that matter for us to take a look at.

And I believe expediency is the best solution in this case. We don't need to wait for weeks on end in order to find out where the Gelenos home world is, we just need to figure out what is, their tech and any possible uses, the vast territory of their empire, and then watch it tear itself apart from a nuclear strike it had no idea was coming their way. And with that last major threat, we can ignore coming back to this area again for years and years at the least, and focus completely on the sectors politics that rule it before leaving Clarus in the hands of one of our trusted Andriods.

>>6015325
>>Continue your extermination campaign. You may have put down the “capital” of this orkish empire, but based on imperial records, there are still a few worlds left.
There's no point in leaving a job half done, let's fuck up the rest of them then bring in some colonists from Xandrirah for the new worlds purged of orks.

>>6015339
>Travel to the galactic south-east, towards Gelenos territory. Hack the database of the nearest ship or planet, locate their capital and burn and loot it for all its worth before going back home to Xandrirah Prime.
Smash and grab anons, it’s time to play the Barbarian.

>>6015325
>>Continue your extermination campaign. You may have put down the “capital” of this orkish empire, but based on imperial records, there are still a few worlds left.

>>Continue your extermination campaign. You may have put down the “capital” of this orkish empire, but based on imperial records, there are still a few worlds left.

>>Continue your extermination campaign. You may have put down the “capital” of this orkish empire, but based on imperial records, there are still a few worlds left.

>>6015325
>Continue your extermination campaign. You may have put down the “capital” of this orkish empire, but based on imperial records, there are still a few worlds left.

>>6015325
>Continue your extermination campaign. You may have put down the “capital” of this orkish empire, but based on imperial records, there are still a few worlds left.
Total Ork Death

>>6015339
Nah we should finish these orks off then head back to Xandrirah and swap the current ODD regiments (minus Zanx and the 1st) out for the other half of the ODD we left there before going on any other campaigns or doing anything else. Or maybe just take all of them, I'm not sure why we didn't do that to begin with.

>>6015728
We left half probably incase we rolled an invasion while we were out and about.

>>6015728
Eh, I mean I guess and I do understand the sentiment of doing a total Ork Xenocide. It’s just, we destroyed hundreds of Ork ships without a scratch on us, captured and smelted a Hulk for spare parts and more advanced technology then even we possessed, which is a remarkable thing in and of itself. We killed hundreds of Billions of Orks, and cleansed the capital of a major Ork empire. It just kinda feels excessive, and a bit more time than I would be entirely interested in desu. As for taking half of the regiments, it was in part to see what the capabilities of the new recruits were, and sending them off onto a relatively secure mission to go to a location, do some fighting then refill up with reinforcements and then go back out again into the field. And even then, that was just to get the thread interested in fighting the local Ork incursion that o wanted us to deal with in order to stop more of the sector from being lit on fire as it was already starting to get burned down from all of the stuff happening to the sector. Those 5 regiments were originally just meant to be the guards and soldiers to defend Odysseus from boarders as we went and did something else like doing some government stuff with Xandrirah.

But, I guess once this extended fight is done, then we should indeed go back and get reinforcements before seeing if anything major has happened with the sector as well. If the rebels are still losing, and their is t more chaos, then we should go back to gelenos, steal information of the aliens in question, and burn their home world before we move back home and journey south for the sector capital and the southern parts of Clarus while looking around for the possibility that the inquisition is in the sector. After that, bag him and scan the man and we kill two eagles with a boulder in one move.

>>6015782
I think we should focus on dealing with the Inquisition before going on another campaign. I don't want to return to Xandrirah or Teledesh and discover that they've been exterminatus'd. It was pure luck that we found ourselves with some allies in the mechanicus and I really don't want to risk some asshole inquisitor undoing all our work while we're out butchering some retarded aliens.

>>6015793
Fair, the Exterminatus idea seems a bit far fetched, but the idea of going back and staying around to see if and where that Inquisitor could be, but I genuinely would have no idea where we could or should even begin to look for the fucker. If we’re lucky, the man will actively advertise his arrival into the sector, which means we will know if the guy is here and where he is located. But fuck us, if that man acts stealthy or like Eisenhorn, then we are fucked out of any luck finding this man in a sector of space with dozens of star systems to hide in with us being no more aware then we were before of his location.

>>6015811
In theory we might be able to scan for a Rosette- the thing is a electronic device- but we would A; need to know what to look for and B; be sure that the Inquisition is a serious threat in game.

Unless I am mistaken- Oddy is not to sure if the Inquisition is real or as powerful as advertised, as far as we know we had yet to encounter alkolikes or Interrogators, no mentions of Rosets or other hallmarks of Inquisitors. Tho I don’t discount the possibility that someone had seen something- (it would be thematic)

Also question for Annon, how dose our troops see the Imperium? Do they see themselves as part of it?

>>6015811
In the vision one of his subordinates mentioned Omicron Teledesh suddenly and mysteriously finding some STCs for power armor and powerful weapons the Imperium hadn't even heard of before. The Inquisitor seems to plan on investigating the forge world so maybe we can catch him there.

>>6015831
Ody had a vision of the Inquisitor, he knows that the fucker is coming. What he doesn't know is that a random farseer is freaking the fuck out, the deldar are currently raiding some human worlds in the sector, a conspiracy is unfolding in the south and a bunch of good guy space marines are having a rough time although I think these marines were south of the orks we just destroyed so maybe we've unintentionally helped them out.

>>6015844
Just checked and it doesn't say where the space marines are just that they're fighting orks.

>>6015831
Unfortunately, he doesn’t even know that the inquisition exists at all, Nevermind how it operates on an individual or group level. The sector has never really hosted one on a permanent basis, nor does it house a conclave, or even seen one enter its borders in Emperor only knows how many decades to centuries if not more. The only way we could possibly identify him, is if we use meta-knowledge, and are unusually interested in people that wear skull tags on them and has a private military force at their beck and call. As for how they see themselves, likely apart in the same way a child sees themselves as separate to their parents, they were born from the imperium, and they are serving it by serving their savior Ody, but however much it is beyond that is hard to say without Newb’s input.
>>6015844
Nice, I remember that now, in which case then we have a good idea on where we should look to first for where the bastard can show up first. And which we can hopefully be easily be able to identify if anything funny is going on because of our admech worshippers. As for that vision, no Ody doesn’t know what it represented at all. What happened was that we picked one of 5 possible groups that would absolutely interact with us and/or the sector in some major way, and we choose of the lot one which has a inquisitor of all things. What he got from that vision, was what it said on the can, that he saw a blind eye starring across the tides of chaos, and weeping bloody tears. As for the rest, yep and unfortunately no for the Blood Angels. We have no idea where they are, or where they are fighting at unfortunately.

>>6015831

>Also question for Annon, how dose our troops see the Imperium? Do they see themselves as part of it?

Ambivalent, usually. Due to Ody screening the psychology of the troops, they all have a tendency towards atheism and cynicism, something Ody considers to be important for logical thinking, as such, with much better living conditions under Ody and not being bound by religious dogma, they either do not care about the Imperium or they actively view it as backwards. Of course, most of the populace that Ody protects is religious and they view the Imperium still as sacred, if misguided. Naturally, this gap in religious belief is causing issues, but so far as Ody is aware, the shared trauma prevents active conflict and his educations programs will rid of the gap in a generation or two.

Anyways, nuking more Orks wins.

>>6016027
Sigh, every fucking time Osy gets involved with humans, he keeps making mistake after fucking mistake. Is it safe to say, that for all of the dumb shit that a human both in and out of a universe can be, Ody is unironically the stupidest of both?

Because surely, by BRAINWASHING a bunch of recruits with guns over 10 years of training, which show excessive amounts of cynicism and Atheism, is not at all going to cause massive social destruction and pushback, and even in the best case scenario’s these traits are actively detrimental to a human’s well being when fighting in a fix while, with FUCKING DAEMONS, that this idea is sound??? Nevermind, once the older generations get outnumbered by those that do not have any sort of trauma between themselves and their kin, their are absolutely going to cause fights to break out and tribalism to comeback with a vengeance since their is no longer that shared trauma to bridge any and all ideological gaps, this idiot is absolutely going to cause a societal collapse.

And, even if this retard idea that his programming has stuck to succeeded, this is going to cause massive societal problems to spring up that before hand never started come up before, namely the decadence and societal norms hollowing out as now the norms, customs, and beliefs of the past, we’re all filled with Religion, which as a brainwashed federation follower, is absolutely going to cause problems with not only their own familial groups in Ithaca, but massively with literally any one and everyone outside of Ithaca, that listening to even a single conversation with them, are going to make any other planetary native in the galaxy, try and put a plasma bolt in their head, Olympian power Armour or not.

Fuck me, unironically Odysseus is being anal with us without even realizing what he’s causing in the background.

>>6016082

Ody is Federation era A.I. with upsides and downsides of it. His creators are imperfect and as such they had put in flaws that reflect them into their creation. Though your anons' actions resulted in Ody being less atheistically militant than before as his previous biases demanded. Of course, based on how you anons interact with the universe through Ody further on, could result in a religious A.I., for good or ill, or maybe something in between.

>>6016088
At least now we see why their is no such thing as federation culture, their would be none to begin with, as it would be built on matchsticks and wishes in order to survive all on its own in a normal sci-fi setting, Nevermind one that actively destroys settings made of adamantium and Granite.

Though boy fucking howdy, if this is a lesser reduced version of him, just what kind of a hell in a handbasket would he be if we didn’t make him less of one prior to this thread?

Besides that, fair, a tool is only as poor as the creator that designed it. And in Ody’s case at least he’s finally starting to understand that for himself, if the fiasco with the troops and its resolution is anything to go bye. As for the religion part, eh so long as you can build yourself to a sect that is all about one’s freedom of choice, make sure it’s some line along a god of some type that’s not evil like the 4 or the C’Tan and I could care less. That’s why most religious tensions between the various different sects of Christianity have died out, besides those on the theological fine points, and stereotypes of a general group of people, like say all Utahians as Mormons, then I’m fine with it.

At least the society already built in Ithaca shows all of the best traits of a stable and morally functional society. Nevermind its inhabitants are the least likely ones that are going to cause problems with other sects or native groups in the galaxy compared to the regiments we’re fielding now at any rate.
Also thanks for the response Newb, I did honestly not expect you of all people to respond to my post, and I’m glad you engaged with me on why Ody is thinking and acting like he his now.

>>6016107

>Though boy fucking howdy, if this is a lesser reduced version of him, just what kind of a hell in a handbasket would he be if we didn’t make him less of one prior to this thread?

In my writings I did indicate that people with unfitting psychological profiles would be "reeducated" and failing that "removed from wider society", usually the latter part being done even before they are born. Basically, my interpretation of the Federation is like anything should be in 40k, it was a time of unprecedented technological advance because, as some sources stated, humanity had completely abandoned any and all morals for the pursuit of science and logic. I am making sure that the statement of Golden Age of Technology and the Dark Age of Technology are both true.

Through your decision to protect mankind and actually deal with religious people without "removing" them, you anons ended up making Ody more tolerant.

>Also thanks for the response Newb, I did honestly not expect you of all people to respond to my post, and I’m glad you engaged with me on why Ody is thinking and acting like he his now.

I always engage with you anons and answer any questions you have. That is why I keep stating just poke me if you have questions, and if I do not answer them it is because I either didn't see them or I forgot about it, so just poke me again.

>>6016115
Ah, I completely forgot about that moral part, the religion I remember, and especially how they just wound up replacing the faith religion with technology instead, but good to know.

Fucking He’ll, and that was the society the Emperor wanted to return too for the imperium since he actually liked that time period. Welp, at least now he learned the hard way how much of a retard he was to give people like Magnus and Lorgar their own brand of retardedness.

And as for abandoning morals, yeah I can imagine. Hell, at least with 1984, it was just stuck with 20th century and good old fashioned indoctrination. The DAoT was just that cranked up to 11, with any natural problems that would revolt from something like that (normal humans), it would be shut down by the A.I. and micromanage it Matrix style(AI managing all of society, not how everyone sleeps in tubes) would it have stood like it did.

But, um in that case, how the hell was big E going to try and bring that back without AI support existing to make such a thing a reality and not just a delusional fantasy that would fall apart in a matter of decades?

You consider the possibility of a quick smash and grab against the Gelenos, a powerful alien Empire, admitted as such by the Imperium, must certainly possess something unique and useful. However, you must not leave a task half finished, Orks, like true cockroaches, shall repopulate rapidly and regrow swiftly if left alone even for a second. Besides, the proximity of the Orks to the systems you are placing under your control is far too close, it would be best to simply exterminate the threat before it grows too egregious.

Naturally, before you depart, you take the effort to clean up after yourself, gathering your ground forces and disassembling anything you built upon the world alongside tearing down your void assets and ripping out everything that’s worthwhile from the destroyed Ork settlements and voidships. You are not leaving anything behind for the Eldar to look over, currently, you are at the potential technological advantage and you’d rather widen that gap than allow the Eldar to close, even if the Eldar right here and right now are your allies.
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You had taken another five months of thoroughly looking through the territories of the Orkish empire. In total, you had entered fifty-nine star systems, cracked one hundred and eighteen worlds, seven hundred and thirty-three moon and of course, numerous ships and two hundred and seventy-five weaponised asteroids. In total, the death toll easily reached into the billions, perhaps even breaking the hundred billion mark, and that is only counting Orks and not all killed orkoids.

The length of the campaign had seen your O.D.D. regiments all growing far more accustomed to warfare and with discipline restored, even amongst rambunctious 3rd regiment, whom had received the nickname of “Asses”, by the other regiments for their stubbornness (You declined the request of the 5th’s colonel to officially change the 3rd's name to that), have all fallen in line. Your explanations and already strong societal bonds had resulted in the five regiments all being quite used to interacting with each other and your robotic forces. It seems that Zanx had earned sufficient amount of experience and respect to be unquestionably regarded as the leading general of the entire force. Overall, the five regiments could now easily operate by themselves even without your direct guidance.

As for the systems, they had proven to be nothing exceptional, mostly ransacked by Orks, you managed to find another half a dozen habitable worlds, but all had either extreme circumstances or instead had a mass lack of resources to make settling them worth it in the short time scale of a couple of centuries. You naturally marked them down for potential future colonization, but none of them were good as the twin worlds or the arid planet you had discovered.

>>6016144

However, as you are overlooking the final stages of the xenocidal campaign, you are quickly contacted by elements of the 2nd regiment as you are wrapping up exterminating a surprisingly tough Orkish force that both on ground and void had oversized engines that should not function, but yet again, as always with Orks, they do.

”Captain, how may I assist you ?” You quickly switch the camera feed to regard the man who had directly contacted you, all the while you are chasing down small, but annoyingly manoeuvrable Orkish ships.

“Odysseus, my men were about to shoot some xenos, but they started talking about an alliance.” The captain dourly responds and swiftly enough, you see through his camera feed, far at a ridgeline standing a cloaked Eldar. With seemingly crushed rock right before the squads advanced element. The rock appears to have shattered from an expertly aimed shot.

”I see. Thank you for informing me, captain. I would like to request for you to move ahead, I shall be employing your suit’s speakers. If that would be acceptable ?”

“Right, got it.” With some grumbling, the captain moves ahead of the squad he commands and from comm chatter you can hear the platoons lieutenant contacting other lieutenants of the company in order to rally together, just in case.

Shifting gravity, the man quickly propels himself into the air and masterfully and slowly begins to slow down and finally, he gracefully sets down on the ground before the Eldar.

”Greetings, Eldar of craftworld Zahr-Tann. Why had you come to seek me out ?” You begin speaking in Eldar through the suit’s speakers.

”To fulfil the oath given.” The Eldar begins, his voice slow and low, for an Eldar at least. ”The Dark ones come for your world, they may very well be there.”

”If you are speaking of raids, my forces there should be enough to repel them.”

”It is no raid. An Archon named Mezatzar leads his whole Kabal of the endless hunt. The whispers in the webway informed us of such.”

”Do you have an estimate ?”

”No, but if the word reached us, it is already underway.”

>Burn towards Xandrirah at full speed. You have no time to waste.

>Return to Xandrirah, but be careful, to charge head-on would be foolish.

>Move back to the pulsar and gathered the fleet there, only then move to Xandrirah.

>Continue on towards another location (Where ?)
Whilst dangerous, Ithaca has its defences, so does it have another six regiments of the O.D.D., you have no doubt that such a force could repel anything threatening it, but for the rest of the system, you do not know.

>(Write in)

>>6016146
>>Burn towards Xandrirah at full speed. You have no time to waste.
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DRRRRRRRRRRRRRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!!!!!!!
Alright, and already we made a extremely excellent choice making a alliance with the Craftworld Eldar. For something like THIS! Right Fucking Here! As I said, for all the shit Eldar rightly deserve, their not scum bags for breaking deals made between themselves and other factions. And for this reason, now we need to Run like Hell itself is right behind us or Xandrirah is going to be ransacked and Ithaca's discovery will be none to far behind. Especially since none of the Regiments have ever seen real combat outside of the local wildlife or training practice in VR chambers.

God fucking Damn it, I forgot the actual Archaon was a Eldar from the Dominion before its fall!!!

Fuck! The moment Odysseus started stalling for time by bringing up the Old Treaty's with the dominion from the Human federation, and the kids reanimation was complete and he finished his raid against those aliens, he told his Dad everything that happened. Which means, he knows that a Federation ship with a possible Human federation crew and maybe A.I. just set up shop in Xandirirah.
No fucking wonder he got his whole Kabal to join in for the fight, hes bringing everything and the Kitchen sink to fight us and what he expects, to be a federation tier fortified system. And we don't even have that as the case. Because we never built that for Xandirrah, we made all of that for the fucking PULSAR AAAAAGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!! God Fucking Damnit! We screwed ourselves over, without even realizing it.

>>6016146
>>Move back to the pulsar and gathered the fleet there, only then move to Xandrirah.
It's the only real choice.

>>6016146
>Burn towards Xandrirah at full speed. You have no time to waste.
God do I hate the dark eldar.

>>6016146
>Return to Xandrirah, but be careful, to charge head-on would be foolish.
If we wanted our fleet with us, it'd require time to travel to the pulsar, set the fleet for warp travel, travel through the warp and then burn towards Xandriah. Needless to say, we don't have enough time for that. Instead, I propose we convert the space used by robots for fighters and bombers before entering Xandriah (though I ask Newb how much time this would take compared to the other two options.)

>>6016146
>>Move back to the pulsar and gathered the fleet there, only then move to Xandrirah.

>>6016187

>(though I ask Newb how much time this would take compared to the other two options.)

You could do that pretty fast, since you have your industrial capacity expanded, at most a day, maybe half. Ody could also just jump straight through and into Xandrirah, so there's little wasted time thanks to the Eldar warning, at least when it comes to Ody's travelling speed.

>>6016146
>Burn towards Xandrirah at full speed. You have no time to waste.
We really need to remove the programmed limits on our usage of WMDs at some point so we can eventually delete Commorragh from existence.

>>6016192
>>6016187
In that case I change my vote to
>Burn towards Xandrirah at full speed. You have no time to waste.
>Convert the robotic forces into fighters/bombers

>>6016195
At least now we know that the Eldar are never going to backstab us considering they unironically came to us with no expectation of their words being of any use, and straight up told us about an attack that they could have willingly withheld from us, and few would have been non the wiser to it in the grand scheme of things.

As for WMD’s, we are going to need a lot more Federation ships and many more WMD’s then that number of ships, before we ever get a chance at having that happen. But, Sector/Inquisitor loophole and our ability to use them Willy-nilly is free and open to us after that.

>>6016209
>now we know that the Eldar are never going to backstab us
That's a VERY generous assumption. I'd say we can probably trust them not to do anything stupid until we've returned all of the soulstones to them. Though if they think we've been useful then yeah they'll probably want to keep on good terms afterwards.

>>6016146
>>Burn towards Xandrirah at full speed. You have no time to waste
>"We move there Eldar."
>Write-in
>Xandirah Primus and Secundus should have some resources (hive world garbage and ore mines) mostly untouched that can be used from both the civil war and the tyranids invasions, deploying outposts there would be for the best giving us bases that can produce more robotic units. Ithaca forces should have grown, their regiments will prove fundamental for ensure the safety of our future recruitment worlds. Once we are in system connect with our chief androids and begin to organize the defense. The efforts of reconstruction, construction, reforms and pacification should give us the fruit of a stronger, more united and prepared war front. The coming of the Ghost Ship of Death and his White Angels again, should increase morale substantially across population and military. It should be enough gravitas and influence, to justify even allied xenos if it comes to that. It might be wise to send a message to our friends in Omicron Teledesh too for inform them.

In both Xandrirah Primus and Secundus, we also left our 2 robotic legions and other robotic units. Those should have recovered losses.

I remember we made sure they wouldn't be seen by anyone through using bunkers and the like, in fact when the imperial guard arrived they didnt found them. Not a single robot or drone. We still have a good amount of forces there, but its best we help. Also because this is an excellent occasion for deliver a fatal blow to the Dark Eldars in Sector Clarus. Alongside aquiring more of their tech, equipment and ships. Maybe even data and knowledge, but I suspect they will just burn everything if they lose.

>>6016146
>Return to Xandrirah, but be careful, to charge head-on would be foolish.

>>6016088
I like being a fedoratipper in 40k without going too overboard. We tolerate religiousity but only because we're more enlightened than these fools and know better.

>>6016146
>Burn towards Xandrirah at full speed. You have no time to waste.

>>6016219
Support.

Newb, what is the most powerful WMD we can build on route?

>>6016314
A fedora tipper literally cannot exist in a setting where gods, souls, angels and demons exist. Because once you yourself act like a high and mighty know it all, anyone further past you along that exact same belief, is going to be even worse then you at talking and thinking about how superior they are for knowing the truth, compared to ignorant masses that still believe that God exists.

And even if you did want to try something like that, it would always make Ody to turn out like what he is now. Because if something is told or informed on what sort of beliefs they should hold, and then something comes along and contradicts it, naturally you as a person are going to want to recorrect that error that you’ve found. The only difference then, between the self enlightenment versus the completely no sense of morals of any kind, is just willing you are to change a world where Errors are filled in society like 40ks.
Nevermind, that is exactly what we are doing, and it is literally building societal problems that will eventually either destroy it, or cause such emotional and evocative wounds to how society works, that this was always going to be a problem no matter how you tried and solved the knot this thing turned into.

>>6016476
I have to agree here- we did noticed that the religious troops fair better fighting the Warp than our more atheistic ones, maybe we should promote a civic religion or a Diet Imperial Creed

>>6016228
I still remember when they attacked the first time, and how they wiped their servers clean. With what reinforcements we can gather and then add on to with our production capability, then we can have a good time to make ourselves a army in less then 4 days time.

And agreed on that idea, this is the entire local kabal, housing dozens of ships, possibly who knows how many favours, mercenaries, Homunculous freaks, kabalite warriors, and succubuses and Incubui they would be eager to bring to the table against someone like us. Once we when against them, the dissolution of the Kabal will be practically guanteed, and the major raiding elements with be absent from the sector for decades to come, as new rivals fight over the whispering blades territory, along with us only adding to the mix by leaving swarms of mines in every webway location we can locate and find on them. Now, in terms of tech and equipment, sure though I think we already got most of the normal kabalite tech and the rest is all Homunculus stuff, but I don't see nor know why we would want to capture ships? We can't use them, and they don't enter the warp, so they would just be stuck floating in-system?
Yeah, if we want to avoid that same thing again, I will wager we would need to prioritize the server rooms and engines, over any slave holds they have on hand, which thanks to our 5 regiments, means doing a boarding action will be much easier than what it was like last time.
>>6016482
Same, there are no atheists in foxholes, and doubly so when demons come into the picture. As for what type of creed, eh the core tenets are surprisingly easy to work with. Where just going to need to study it from say, a shrine word or Arch-Daecon in order to make our own brand of civic religiosity.

>>6016489
I got a few teniths down for such a civic religion/adaptation of the imperial creed, anyone got suggestions?
Comes power, come position, comes duty, Comes Responsibility; no one is owed power or influence, not by birth nor disniny. In matters of military orders need to be followed but in matters of civilian, those who rule may they be nobles or elected must respect the people they rule. Such rulers must live modest lives, afforded security yes, some luxuries yes, but they must not feast while a single man starve, sleep on silk while a single man sleep in the cold. They must not separate themselves form the common man- yet they see themselves as greater than man.

Man is above the alien, but that doesn’t necessarily mean we must harm ourselves to kill the alien, some aliens can’t be reasoned with- the the Orks, the Dark Eldar, the Orks, Tyranids, The Orks, but those who could- If presented with a opportunity to benifit humanity more in peace than in war, it can be considered. Be wary but don’t let yourself get impailed by your own sward.

Humanity is both a community and individuals; For eons this aspect of humanity had been argued, the truth lies between the community and the individual. No man is an island but to see only the community is to miss the forests for its trees. We must respect the individual needs of our fellow man while ourselves work to better the community. We must not starve ourselves to make boasts about our commitment but we must be willing to sacrifice, even meals, if it means our fellow man survive.

Be wary of the occult, there are energies at work- effects of the warp, phonomin that drives men mad both quickly and slowly. These phenomena might themselves make deals- or the effects of them migh make yourself hallucinate such temptations, steel yourself and when possible report it, raise the alarm, inform superiors, supervisors, and law enforcement. Steel yourself in you convictions.

>>6016543
Nice work anon!
Besides some spelling corrections, another part I would add, would be the duty of ones fight in a war. Where no man should ever stop so low against a fellow human and unleash terrorist attacks against each other in war or in peace, save those of the soulless dark ones, those that have forfeited their souls to Chaos, or alternatively, to those alien species that are irredeemable monsters, as determined by Ody and oneself.

One last part, would be to pity the witch, rather then hate them. For they give their minds, lives, and indeed their very soul, in order to keep the astronomicon lit, and help guide the ships and worlds of humanity into the light of survival.And, even then monsters, demons, horrors beyond all counting prey upon these poor souls and use them to murder themselves and take their body as their own, to do the same thing unto others what was done unto that one psyker. And this they must contend and fight against as their fate, from theirs birth all the long and sad way to their deaths. Pity the witch, for their soul was set to be tested greater and harder then all other people for the rest of their lives, and yet still they do the ultimate cost to safeguard humanity against the horrors of the Alien, the mutant, and the demon.

>>6016566
Ohh I like that idea about Ptie the witch.
Maybe it should be Peti the Witch, Hate the Wicked?
But also Ptie the Unwitch, the Blank if we know about them or of them. For they were born without a soul, something that pains the souls around them without fault to themselves, and yet this can allow them to help to fight the warp.

>>6016577
Yep, I'm with you all the way on that idea.

>>6016543
>>6016566
>>6016577
Be sure to include some mysticism in this school of thought, I believe it to be completely warranted given how the Immaterium works.

Things which are real and observable but difficult to empirically measure such as the human condition or eudamoia are perfect for this.