>>10735787

WOOOOOOOO!

God, I hope these pills kick in before the headache does...

Anyhow, you are currently about your base of operations, the Zanzibar Kai class Assault Cruiser "Outer Heaven" after just escaping an enemy assault force.
The ship is currently making hell for leather to try and escape Jaburo's air defence force as fast as possible.

After about 4 to 5 minutes Captain Mouser escapes the initial threats and heads out to sea, and turns off the red alert.
For once, the rest of the flight goes smoothly and you manage to make it back to California, where the troops are marshalling for the second Jaburo assault.

>>10735848

And now they know we're coming.

After landing and dropping off the prized Recon data as well as the Mashiba Team, you're put on stand-by.

It is roughly a week until Operation Joker, the second Jaburo Attack begins, from the looks of things you may just be free until then.

YOUR ORDERS?

>>10735862
But they don't know about the path the recon team found. We still have some advantage.

Additionally, is that new type girl we fought back in the day still with us or did we leave her behind after we last had her in the mobile armour I think it was? I forgot.

>>10735862

They don't however know that you've found the secret back door.

>>10735848

Still got the migraines man?

-What is the current composition of forces at our base?
-At best guess, when does the (main) Jaburo offensive begin?
-After our last incursion into Feddie controlled territory, what does intel say about current movements regarding feddie forces. Is Jaburo being reinforced, is what I'm asking.
-Current location of the Trojan Horse(s).

>>10735923

To the best of your knowledge she stayed with the Flanagan boys after you agreed to escort her in the Braw Brow into the combat zone.

>>10735953
Damn. That could of been a possible way to find out more about new types and such.

Maybe we should try to use this week to prepare facing the Federations mobile suits/gundam. There's a chance we might run into it and we need some kind of strategy to take it down quick. What is going on in space anyways? Any word?

>-What is the current composition of forces at our base?

Last you heard, at least 3 Battalions of Mobile Suits plus other units were being used in concord for Operation Joker.

>-At best guess, when does the (main) Jaburo offensive begin?

Like I said, at some point next week, although due to operational security you don't know when.

>-After our last incursion into Feddie controlled territory, what does intel say about current movements regarding feddie forces. Is Jaburo being reinforced, is what I'm asking.

Unconfirmed, but by your guess it seems likely.

>-Current location of the Trojan Horse(s).

At present, not counting the one you captured, there have been roughly 5 sightings of different Trojan Horse class carriers across various battlefronts.
The original Trojan Horse was persued by Captain Char and the Mad Angler unit to Africa, where elements of the Afrika Corps (including the Wulfgar Penal Squad) also joined in the hunt. Despite heavy losses, Char pursued the Trojan Horse to Europe where they were able to escape to the Federation held British Isles.

It's currently believed to be hiding out in Dublin, and hasn't been seen for almost 3 weeks now. It's possible that the unit was disbanded after Char was able to successfully destroy the Guntank and damage the Guncannon Mobile Suits.

>>10736008
This isn't a bad idea. Depending on the Fed's logistical situation, the G-3 could be undergoing trial runs in Jaburo right now. And we do know that the GM Command is undergoing limited production down there as well. We should review the data from Jo's, Zol's and Elaine's MS and see what we can learn about these new models.

>>10736100
I vote we also spend time with our crew. Even the intel officer who we never talk to since people forget about her. Don't want to jinx it but who knows what'll happen in the next assault. Part of me keeps thinking even we might get left behind and captured by the Feds at some point and have to break out on our own.

Oh god, computer died and now I have to use the 11" notebook.

Things to do before the Jaburo Assault:

Priority: -Agressor training against Dom Teams. Since they're the fastest they're the most likely to be called in to deal with fed MS that pop up.
Reccomend using the Zaku FZ, Act Zaku and some goufs as stand-ins for Fed MS.
These guys need to be ready to deal with this shit because our unit cant be everywhere.
-Find out what MS and how many of each type will be deployed in the assault


Secondary: -Discuss possible beam chaff applications with the tech boys. (Chaff grenades, coatings for shields, etc)
-ask techs about possibility of upgrading the Act Zaku with vernier designs from the Zaku FZ.
-talk to Midnight Fenrir and possible provide them with better suits if possible.
-Find out if there will be an orbital operation coinciding with the assault

Additional tech idea to follow in next post.

Oh wow I caught a thread before 200 posts.

So, this is my first time posting in Zeonquest. Anyone care to give me a brief rundown so I don't spam SELF DESTRUCT! ?

>>10736189
>>10736100
>>10736156

You decide to look over some of the combat data from this particular mission. Taking close attention to the new GM mobile suits you encountered.

From what you can tell, this newer design came with improved armour and agility, but was only equipped with a standard MS scale machinegun.
Whether this implies that the Federation have a production bottleneck with regards to Beam Rifles or simply a case of pilot preference you can't tell.

With regards to anti-MS operations in general you find that some of your old recordings from Canada are probably more useful, you're about to crank them out and discuss things with the rest of the team when Garma asks to see you in his office.

>>10736156

>I vote we also spend time with our crew.

Especially our infantry platoon, those guys deserve more attention after the operation in VBC.

>>10736189
Zeonic multi countermeasure dispenser (MCD) AKA 'Burning Bush'

Before the introduction of the Gigan AA vehicle the vulnerability of MS to massed ground attack aircraft was a serious problem in need of a solution. One concept was to mount a flare, chaff and smoke dispenser on the backpack of an MS-09 Dom. The Dom would then use it's high speed to race around Zeon units or positions obscuring them from enemy sight. (Run around and troll Feddie air cover) Thankfully the Gigan has proven a success negating the need for this.

Another application for this device has since been devised. Based on the sonar and minovsky decoys used in operation Terminus, the new device would be dropped by ships or large aircraft into a target zone to similar effect. This version would be equipped with a small Minovsky emitter, sonar decoy, flare and smoke launchers. With the Minovsky emitter the standard chaff dispenser is unnecessary so it has been replaced with beam chaff. In this new configuration it should prove capable of preventing Federation MS from bombarding our above ground attack forces in Jaburo with long ranged Beam fire. The Flares should also hamper thermal imaging of our vehicles.

FUCK YEAH ZEONQUEST

>>10736189

We also oughta train with Bernie and grenades. Nothing is as useful and deadly in a tunnel as grenades.

>>10736388
Agreed. Bernie with grenades and whoever's going to be piloting the YMS-14's should get some beam rifle practice. I imagine you dont have to lead your target nearly as much when firing weapons that travel near lightspeed.

Keep tabs on Cima and the Mashiba Team. And train against some of the units that'll be taking part in the assault: use our best MS and try to give them a taste of what they'll be up against if the Feddies deploy any Gundams.

When you arrive in his office you find him studying a large map of jaburo, festooned with pins, notes and pieces of string.
He see's you and bids you to sit down. He soon joins you.

"That last mission has paid off handsomely David, the recon data that the Mashiba Team were able to gain was the last critical piece of the puzzle we needed."

"If I recall it was a water intake into Jaburo's base, large enough for a Mobile Suit to use wasn't it?"

"Exactly so, and with a bit of luck it should take you right up into the middle of the facility, completely undetected. Which is what I want to talk about. It will be you're job to infiltrate Jaburo using this entrence, and try to find and destroy the enemies Mobile Suit manufacturing capablities in Jaburo. You've been given top priority in terms of mission resources, if you need any extra troops or equipment, you have but to ask."

YOUR ORDERS?

Directed to my fellow zeonquesters. In case i'm not around if/when we run into incognito, see if we can get the events of the Gihren assassination plot going. With Legitimate Zeon backing.

>>10736465

The Mashiba Team is good for aquatic ops, right? I think they deserve the right to help exploit the weakness a lot of their comrades got killed finding.

I suppose we're gonna try and pull off what Char did:

Send in the Infantry, plant bombs, withdraw.

That hole's too nice an entrance to waste it for anything but the main attack.

>>10736511

You mean the manga? I need to read that at some point...

>>10736326

Actually, I'm pretty sure that's EXACTLY what the Outer Heaven used to jam enemy heatseeker missiles and mask your airdrop last episode. Except in my mind it was a large 5 meter log packed with various countermeasures, spamming them all at once.

>>10736511

For all we know, Incognito might be siding with Gihren's side. Just sayin'.

>>10736465

Would it be possible to get one of those underwater carriers to drop MS designed to fuck their base up in through that entrance?

>>10736567

It's an aquatic route don't forget, you'll need to make sure you bring SCUBA trained soldiers.

>>10736555

You ask about the Mashiba Team, and Garma tells you they have a role in the assault for them already planned.

BRB Dinner.

>>10736465
Ask for Char. We'll also be needing amphibious suits by the looks of it.
Any chance of upgrading a couple of Acguys to use new beam weapon tech similer to the MSM-07E because every little bit will help. Heck, The old Jaburo assault MS are already pritty screwed up designs, upgrade a couple of those and anyone that we cant get Hygog's or Z'gok-E's for can use them.

>>10736614

>Ask for Char

This. A thousand times this. If we do get Char, make sure to casually mention the teacup in conversation.

>>10736352

She looks familiar.

Damnit. I wish I could stay for the rest of this. Remember guys - make sure our team is well prepared for facing the gundam. Even if it's not there, if we're prepared for it it'll make anything else we come across a joke. Also, spend more time with them because hanging out with Zol and Jolyne always ends up amusing.

>Would it be possible to get one of those underwater carriers to drop MS designed to fuck their base up in through that entrance?

Uh no. I would really not waste a hole big enough to drop MS in the middle of Jaburo for anything but the real attack.
It's best if we use Commandos here and try to map out two or three withdraw routes other than the hole they're coming in.

>>10736720
Ok, so while we're training for the assault/ helping train others, we get a few commando teams training for a scuba mission. Should be pritty easy training since they'd be able to just use modified normal suits.

>>10736072

Wait...Char took out the Guntank?

1) We need to see if we can get our act zaku waterproofed. We'll need that shield. Also the gelgoogs. So we should see if we can get a Muaveshirt team attached to us.

2) If they're expecting Nachtmaren. LETS GIVE THEM NACHTMAREN.

Go through personal records and pick out the best pilots from the battalions. 1 or 2 per. Then given them permission to paint their rides in our colours.

/watch the outer defense line shit themselves completely.

A good way to distract, divert and confuse the enemy.

>>10736859
Timeline elasticity. Ryu get's killed again. I'm betting Hayato will be back piloting a guncannon.

>>10736859

I remember hearing the White Base crew ditched the Guntank for a second Guncannon at some point in the novel.

>>10737007

Immediately after Jaburo when they went back in space.

Of course according to Origins, White Space started with 3 gun tanks and 3 gun cannons so...

>>10737054

Didn't several of those get destroyed during the attack on Project V?

>>10736720

Well, it'd be poetic justice when we do the actual attack. Possibly screaming out some reference to Hawaii.

>>10736907

I'm liking this.

>>10736907
>>10736641
>>10736614
>Any chance of upgrading a couple of Acguys to use new beam weapon tech similer to the MSM-07E because every little bit will help.

Not really, as truthfully, a Acguy with beam guns is called a Z'Gok.
The main draw of the Acguy is the fact that they cost about as much as a Zaku J to produce, so they can just be cranked out in decent numbers.

>Ask for Char.

You ask if Commander Char could be put into your assault team, and Garma promises to see what he can do, but last he looked, Kycillia had requisitioned him for some top secret work of her own, and in an effort to be impartial in the growing spat between her and Gihren decided to leave alone.

>>10736907

The Act Zaku IS waterproofed. It loses a fair bit of mobilty in the water, but considering that most of the combat will take place on the surface, it might not be a problem. Your choice.

Also, with your plan lifted from the 3 Amigos, will you be inducting these pilots into the Nachtmaren, or just letting them use the colours for this battle?

>>10737235

No... They actually sortied to attack char's resupply (this time it was done on the surface of Luna 2. HOW, i have absolutely no idea).

Pic related. Guntanks IN SPACE.

>>10737328

Tell those pilots they're brevet Nachtmaren.

If they survive they can keep those colours as honorary members SO THEY DAMN WELL SURVIVE AND COME BACK.

>>10737328
>will you be inducting these pilots into the Nachtmaren, or just letting them use the colours for this battle?
Just using the colors, I think.

>>10737526
>>10737436

Okay then.

So, aside from making people shit themselves because the Nachtmaren are everywhere, what mobile suits and loadout do you want for the mission?

>>10737569

How many of the other suits are waterproof? No need to hobble ourselves with aquatic suits if most of the fighting will be above ground.

And we're damn well good enough to win with a handicap underwater if it comes to that.

>>10737328
>Not really, as truthfully, a Acguy with beam guns is called a Z'Gok.

Model number: MSM-04
Code name: Acguy
Equipment and design features: Forearms interchangeable
Fixed armaments: 4 x 105mm vulcan gun, fire-linked, mounted in head; 6-tube rocket launcher, mounted on forearm; mega particle cannon, mounted inforearm; 1x machine gun, replaces mega particle cannon, mounted in forearm
Well it's your game so you make the call.

Who are we going to have piloting the Gelgoogs? Or are we just going to keep them in reserve for use after fighting our way back out of Jaburo in the marine suits?

>>10737594

All of them are waterproof, and even if they weren't, your pilot suits come with an air supply anyhow.
The real problem is the limited mobility in water, that's going to make you vulnerable during the entry into the base, as well as your retreat.

>>10737569

Hy-Goggs are the order of the day I believe. Maybe a Zock or two, as I have a feeling we'll need the firepower eight mega particle guns can provide. I'd also suggest borrowing a few generic pilots and equipping them with Z'Goks or Acguys, then having them cover our commando forces while we deal with the bigger problems.

>>10737603

Reserve, so that they will shit metric tons of brix when we do use them in the actual Jaburo assault.

>>10737603
I wouldn't bring the Gelgoogs on the infiltration team. They're valuable enough that we want to avoid taking them in a situation where they'd be less then optimal, or be forced to abandon them behind enemy lines. Besides, MSMs are advanced enough that they can put up a very good fight above water. Enough Z'Gok Es can ruin any Fed's day.

>>10737603
Oh, well if MAHQ says that... you can have them if you want, but you DO have top priority, so you can probably do better than AcGuys.

I tend to go by Gihrens Greed for most of my Mobile Suit loadouts, which is why I thought the Acguys were solids only.

>>10737629

Hrm. Is there a MS version of a scuba sled?

>>10737676
Acguy arms are modular. We've seen models with dual claws and dual machinegun arms in different appearances. The single MP gun/claw and missile arm seems to be the stock option though.

>>10737680

Probably, though I wouldn't suggest bothering. The amphibious op isn't our only part to play in this if I'm reading things right - we're going in ahead of the main assault to wreck havoc within Jaburo itself, destroying as much as we can and weakening their defenses (both internal, IE: the poor bastards we're blowing up, and external, IE: the guys getting pulled off the line to reinforce their internal forces) just ahead of the assault.

After we're done with the infiltration we pull out, switch to our usual MS, and proceed to rapeface.

>>10737680

Fraid not.

>God, I hope these pills kick in before the headache does...
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>GRABBIN' PILLS

>>10737752

You targets are after infiltrating are:

1.) MS construction facilities
2.) Command Structures
3.) Power Generation installations
4.) Any other targets of oppourtunity

Essentially they want you cripple Jaburo's key war contribution ability if not take it outright, that'll be the 3 Battalions on the surfaces job.

David: Z'gok E
Zol, Jol, Elaine: Hygog
Calvin: Z'gok E (maybe?)
Hovis: Zok
Bernie: ?? We need to give him some marine type training since he's the only one who hasnt used one before. Perhaps a second Zok or a standard Z'gok?

>>10737803

Are we bringing in any commando teams with us?

>>10737817
If we want to ease him into it, I'd suggest an Acguy. Those things seem built mostly out of Zaku parts anyway. If we're going for fighting ability, then he should at least take a regular Z'Gok.

>>10737787
I love my Syndol yes I does. All the other pills aren't nearly as much fun.
Shame about them wiping me out and giving me acid reflux for the next week though.

>>10737830

You've got one platoon of infantry stationed with your unit permanently.
Although they all had to be replaced by a new bunch after you left them at Grenada.

If you want more you'll have to ask for them.

>>10737845

If that's true about the Acguy, seems to be the way to go. I'm not at all familiar with aquatic suits, so I'm kinda useless here. :/

>>10737817
>Bernie: ?? We need to give him some marine type training since he's the only one who hasnt used one before. Perhaps a second Zok or a standard Z'gok?

Operating a Zock might be a bit much for a first timer since it sort of straddles the line between MS and MA as well. Z'Gok would probably be better.

Also, like somebody suggested earlier, we DO still have the Jaburo Specials we used the last time. Although taking on a Gundam turned out to be somewhat beyond them.

>>10737845
You know what would be hillarious? An Acguy design compatible with the unified maintinence plan.

>>10737866

Ask for more.

Also, wappas. :D

It's too bad we can't pull a tow-style maneuver like we did space-side- do we have any high-powered aquatic mobile systems that could do the job? Basically, have a single/pair of suits piggyback for the intake run, then have the taxi suits wait near the entrance for recall and to cover our exit?

We're going into the heart of the Federation base. Coming back in mid-firefight to find the Feddies blew the route back or worse would be big trouble on our end.

>>10737929

Hey thats my schitick.

Besides I've toned that down...

Why aren't we taking the Gelgoogs?

They're pretty useful. I think taking them outweighs the risk of losing them... not to mention the combat data it would provide.

They're, what equal to the gundams except the armor, right?

>>10737926
>Also, like somebody suggested earlier, we DO still have the Jaburo Specials we used the last time.

THAT MEANS YOU HAVE THE ZOGOK RIP AND TEAR

>>10737970
A Grabro could do it, but it's basically just a one-man attack sub. Once we get in the base, it'll be stuck in the waterways. Also, we don't know if it can fit through the entire cave system.

>>10737927

>Also, wappas. :D

Your last team were actually trained Wappa Dragoons armed with AT Launchers. They were pretty damn helpful in scouting out your area for you last time. You ask for SCUBA trained commandos and special forces troops, as well as discussing the feasability to transporting Wappa's in somehow. Garma says he'll ask the tech guys to think something up.

>>10737970

>It's too bad we can't pull a tow-style maneuver like we did space-side- do we have any high-powered aquatic mobile systems that could do the job? Basically, have a single/pair of suits piggyback for the intake run, then have the taxi suits wait near the entrance for recall and to cover our exit?

Well, it's certainly doable, but remember, unlike space you'd be encountering a lot of drag on the both of you, so the suit that is towing you would suffer in terms of speed as well. It'd be an overall improvment, but the tower would have to dump you like a hot potato is a firefight broke out.

Also, keep in mind that conventional firearms don't work underwater, only torpedoes and beams, harpoons etc.

>>10737803
>You targets are after infiltrating are:

Infiltrating a base can be done at one of two points:
Either we infiltrate in the secret entrance FIRST and wreck shit with the element of MASSIVE SURPRISE, fighting at 3am or something giving us at least 10 minutes to pew pew and gtfo.
However, this has MAXIMUM CHANCE of being suicidal, as ending up in the enemy base with no backup is an excellent way to die.
If we're going this route, we want to take the 6 nachtmareners, and 14 suits painted identically to serve mainly as decoys. 6 aces, 8 mauveshirts.
Have an Orbital Drop of about 50 million Smoke 'n' Flare canisters coincide with the Nachtmaren exiting that pipe and stepping out into the middle of Jaburo.
The Mauveshirts form a perimeter, radioing data back to the Nachtmaren. Every Mauveshirt should be carrying MAXIMUM EXPLOSIVE loaded with 25 to 50cm diameter ball bearings, radioactive if possible. (fuck yeah depleted uranium)
The Mauveshirts' job will be to basically walk out, radio data about incoming MS to the Aces and the Nachtmaren.
The Nachtmaren engage the incoming enemy MS, staying in radio range of the Aces in case they need backup.
The Aces peel off and attack targets of opportunity inside the Jaburo compound; Turrets, Launch bays, Factories, that type of thing.
When SHTF and people start getting overrun, the Aces cover the Nachtmaren's retreat as the Nachtmaren get right the fuck back down that hole, then the surviving Aces follow the Nachtmaren in.
The Mauveshirts?
Detonation in 5 ... 4 ... 3 ... 2 ... 1 ...

>>10738071

You don't seem to understand how we run things here. People who go with us on mission? Not expendable. They are our brother and sister spacenoids.

Now take your summer-/tg/ retardosity and gtfo.

>>10738071
I should specify that each Mauveshirt should have a Dead Man's Switch attached to their explosive packs rigged to go off 15 minutes after the Nachtmaren breaches the compound, so that even if the Mauveshirts happen to eat it, they still go boom. This puts a hard limit of 14 minutes or so of sticking around, but if you're in the middle of the enemy fucking base for more than that you're fucked anyway.
(Think rookies from Xcom with their lovable suicide HEs. Only bigger.)

The Aces should carry sabotage bombs - ideally a mix of Sarin - and just drop the fuckers as soon as they exit the vents. The Aces need that mobility.
Have all Mobile Suits involved in the infiltration equipped with closed-circuit-breathing devices and detonate the Sarin bombs IMMEDIATELY upon entering the central courtyard of Jaburo. Closed-circuit breathing protects the Aces, the Mauveshirts and the Nachtmaren.
The staff at Jaburo stay in their bunkers, thinking they're safe.
Then the Rookies' massive det packs tear a hole in buildings, the Sarin seeps in, and they all die.

>People who go with us on mission? Not expendable. They are our brother and sister spacenoids.

*Anonymous points to a rather large poster that reads "War is hell", then points to a spreadsheet printed out on his desk that reads "Acceptable casualties"*

>>10738071
I like the plan up until the part where everybody dies.

>>10738150

Wow.

You sure like expendable troops.

>>10738150
>>Mauveshirt bomb

Hell no.

>>Chemical Warfare

Antarctica Treaty.

>>10738150

Also, the use of Sarin gas is a sure fire way of breaking the Antartic Treaty.

Then the Feddies (Who i believe have more nukes than Zeon does), just decides to go the easy way.

Bad end.

>>10738174
And the part where we start violating the Antarctic Treaty with chemical weapons.

>>10738165

Yeah, no. We're heroes. Acceptable casualties are 0 casualties. If we acted differently, out CO would probably have courtmartialed us, anyways.

Please put some effort into lurking before chiming in with plans.

>>10738150
>Sarin nerve gas

Ok, this isnt Planes & Mercs, we do NOT violate the Antarctic treaty for temprary gains. If we fail to conquer Jaburo the Feds retaliate with nuclear missile spam all across the Earth Sphere.
End result: We lose.

Moving along, from apologized's info, I don't think a tower is a good idea anymore. How about a mix of solid aquatic suits and land suits?

I also agree this may not be the best place for a Gelgoog...

Your mission is scheduled to occur simultanouesly with a surface attack to put both defenders underground and up top off balance.
Unlike last time your assault wont be heralded by a day of artillery fire from Cuba either.
Mostly because the feds bombed Operation Terminus (and most of the surrounding countryside) into the stoneage.

So, the plan appears to be as thus.
Your team, and about 40 commandos will take the secret entrance, the Commando's will be using Wappa's for extra mobility and will be acting as forward scouts for your team, they will also be armed with Demolition charges as well.
Your team will attempt to find the MS bays and cause as much damage as possible.

Sounding alright so far?

What next?

>>10738150
After this is done, it's probably a good idea to orbital drop White Phosphorous on Jaburo - timing it to land roughly 2 hours after the Nachtmaren's initial incursion, or when Sattelite intelligence reports technical staff in the yard, whichever comes first.
If the Aces have done their fucking job, the Anti-air turrets will be disabled, and a 3am attack leaves everyone tired as fuck and unable to manually operate anti-air at 5am. At least SOME of the white phosphorous should sneak through.
This has three important benefits.
#1: The burning rainforest denies cover to the Feds
#2: Smoke inhalation and embers are still massive hazards to many enemy forces.
#3: Obviously, burning enemy mans is good.

>>10738071
>>10738150
You need to get the fuck out since you obviously have nothing of value to contribute.

>>10738231
Aw man, we can't use chemical weapons?
Fuck.
What about Radioactive weapons?
Just use those then and time them to go off slightly later.
What about Napalm or White Phosphorous?

>>10738293
Sounds good. Can any interior data leftover from our previous infiltration still be used, or is it all junk thanks to those damn block sections and whatever else the Feds could have done to counter it?

>>10738174
>I like the plan up until the part where everybody dies.
But that's the BEST PART!
Expendible people with LOTS OF REALLY BIG EXPLOSIVES THAT PUNCH HOLES IN BUILDINGS THROUGH WHICH SMOKE AND FUMES CAN SEEP IN = VERY YES

>>10738316

For God's sake warcrimes are off the table. Take your 40k and gtfo.

How about this plan?

Stage One: Inflitration
-Infiltrate the Federation Jaburo Perimeter.
-During infiltration plant landing beacons for airdropped gunbrero AA Mobile suits and supporting ZakuIIs.
-Assemble suits at Spillway in preparation for Stage two

Stage Two
-Airdropped AA units and ZakuIIs preform their duty. Keeping Air assets and Ground units occupied.
-Follow plans and target priorites listed.


Stage Three
-Similar exfiltration: Blow hanger doors, combat extraction of all mobile suits.

Uh.... all I can think of.

>>10738240
>Acceptable casualties are 0 casualties.
What is this hippie nonsense?
Acceptable casualties are "Enemy loses more matériel than you lose". If we blow them fucking apart, all losses are acceptable!

I like the idea of towing units.
Maybe we have a marine MS tow two gelgoogs. When we have to retreat, the gelgoogs would have the tow lines linked to their backpacks, so that they face rearward while the towing unit . . . well . . . tows them. Think of the towing unit as a wagon, and the towed 'googs would be riding on the (metaphorical) back of it, shooting at any chasers.

Two gelgoogs with beam rifles is a nasty surprise for any feddy unit that tries to chase us into the waterway, and allows us to fight without sacrificing escape mobility.

We also might want to think about some kind of capsule or mini-submersible for the commandos. If we could load them all up and have a marine suit carry/tow them. We are Nachtmaren so leaving them behind/not covering their retreat is not an option. However, waiting on them to paddle/swim out will force us to move painfully slow and be sitting ducks that draw bit huge guns into a small space cluttered with squishy infantry.

>>10738352
What, ALL warcrimes?
What about burning plastic or rubber?
Maybe if we just set Jaburo on fire after punching a hole in the bunker, the fumes would cause damage (at the very least, long-term health damage, especially if they're asbestos fumes) and it can be done without breaking the antarctica treaty. Unless that treaty also covers FIRE. At which point what is this I don't even. Just use massive amounts of smoke inhalation then.

>>10738367

And then your troops go off to join someone whose commander doesn't think of them as a number...

Okay, this plan is probably the most amazing, complicated plan ever, and will take a lot of skill and timing.

You guys ready for it? Yeah?

We go in there and shoot everything that isn't painted with a skull motive.

>>10738391
Jaburo isn't a bunker. It's a massive underground complex larger then the New York or Tokyo metropolitan areas.

>>10738293
You targets are after infiltrating are:
>From above
>2.) Command Structures
Would be good but it's very likely decentralised because of the whole damn block thing. If the scouts find it/one priority.
>3.) Power Generation installations
This unless we find the command center
>4.) Any other targets of oppourtunity
Like say, busting open the main gates or blowing up the drive sections of a few Carriers in dock.

Disregarding the newfag idiots, this >>10737817 seems to be as good a place to start as any.

Nachmaren head in via the pipes. Gonna go with >>10738278 and agree with a split of aquatic MS and land. We should also bring along our infantry to further wreck havoc and to hold the exit for us.

Hey, we can't tow other suits with any ease, but could some scuba divers could hold on easily enough?

>>10738391

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antarctic_Treaty_%28Gundam%29

>You sure like expendable troops.
Yes! ^_^

>Your mission is scheduled to occur simultanouesly with a surface attack to put both defenders underground and up top off balance.
Hm.
We'd have to use Napalm then. WP dissipates before it hits the intended target. Fuck, so does napalm, but at least it's still BURNING when it lands, and you can't shoot down a wall of flaming liquid like you can a cruise missile.

Is there any possibility of lighting Jaburo and the entire rainforest surrounding Jaburo on fire prior to this mission?

>>10738316

Protip: No nukes, no chemical weapons. Firestarters are fine, though.

Also, we're only going to be able to feed so many troops so fast through the intake (choke point, basically). That's why I was suggesting the buddy-tow system down there. Just make sure whatever's being towed has respectable beam weaponry of some kind to help out if it goes pear-shaped underwater.

I'd also suggest two-waving ourselves in. Our amphibious suits to scout the passage and beachead, then tow in the big guns like the Act Zaku and Gelgoog a minute or two behind them and proceed to raise hell.

Also, get some advice from Midnight Fenrir. Urban combat is their specialty, and we're going to be doing some building-to-building work here.

Finally, we need to have something that'll breach a heavy door. Remember last time we visited Jaburo?

>>10738302
>>10738391

We tried setting fire to Jaburo's rainforest last time. It didn't work to well.
In fact it actually worked against us since all the Feds did was retreat underground and use the tunnel network to get around instead.
Meanwhile OUR infantry cooked up top, and our Mobile Suits suffered overheating problems.

I really hope we see the Dual Stars of Carnage in action.

>>10738459

Given that they outnumber us in terms of air cover. The Jungle canopy is the only thing that can feasibly protect us.

As for Expendible troops? We're outnumbered. Zeonic militrary might has been our more experienced and technologically superior Mobile suits (Thus far) have kept the Feddies in check.

We cant afford to lose troops unnecessarily.

Thats why we didn't throw all of our forces against the gundam and the Trojan Horse.

>All uses of nuclear weapons are prohibited
>All uses of biological weapons are prohibited
>All uses of chemical weapons are prohibited

YES! RADIOACTIVE (dirty) BOMBS AND NAPALM ARE STILL GO!
Swap all incidents of Sarin gas with some Thorium instead, preferably in a fine dust form as to guarantee maximum dispersion. Since metal DOES NOT LIKE radioactivity, set it to a 15 minute switch like the Mauveshirt bombs.
And, of course, after the Anti-air is disabled, napalm the everloving fuck out of the place.

>>10738522

No unnecessary casualties.

Please.

We like our troops at LEAST a fighting chance.

>>10738485
Well yes. I mean, use napalm -ahead- of the attacking force.

I assumed the Nachtmaren were infiltrating AHEAD of the main force to disable enemy fixed emplacements. If you're attacking at the same time, you're going to need high-altitude Napalm bursts (Because you can't shoot down liquid) dropped 12 hours beforehand.

Obviously you only deploy the napalm BEFORE you attack, or AFTER you attack, not during.

>>10738543
>No unnecessary casualties.
Well how about this.
The mauveshirts carry the bombs in and walk to various key points in Jaburo facility, dropping the bombs if they get there, and providing radio data back to the nachtmaren and aces (who are in the middle of a HUGE FUCKIN' SMOKE CLOUD. Can you at least agree we'll be using smoke and flares? :P).
Then, if the Mauves are still alive after spotting the incoming forces for the Nachtmaren to intercept, they can GTFO with the rest of us.
The aces, obviously, focus on enemy launch bays and fixed emplacement turrets. That type of thing.

>>10738546
Check again. Defense emplacements are not on our list of priorities. We're out to cripple their logistics, taking and holding it is pretty much still impossible at this point.

Also, it's been said before, Jaburo is buried under bedrock. Dropping napalm on them isn't going to do anything to the base itself.

>>10738522
>>10738546

I'm pretty sure that the radioactive weapons like Thorin Dust would still be prohibited under the Antarctic treaty, and even if it wasn't it sets a bad precedent.

Plus this isn't an area you have any operational authority over, the attack is already planned, all you need to do is plan you're particular part.

How about we install thermal vision on some aquatic mechs, equip them with grenade launchers, shoot smoke grenades everywhere, and proceed to wreck shit up?

This is, of course, assuming they won't have any thermal or related on hand.

>>10738583

This... I actually see some glimmer of possibility.

Zeonic special forces have demolitions expertise, why not have several 'Commando' versions of Zaku IIs outfitted with extra communication and sensor suites rigged with MS scale demolition charges, and extra Infantry scale explosives?

That is a good idea man, especially when we've been using commando infantry as spotters in our combined arms programs...

Let's try and simplify this to get things going.

1) Get in
2)Wreck shit
3) wreck shit in our way while we GTFO*
4) Link up with main attack force
5) resume wrecking shit with beam equipped MS

*Details to still be worked out

>>10738616

Yeah, most MS systems have a bunch of visual sensors on board me thinks.

Guys

wait

Guys


We have commandoes. Dress them in civilian clothes with suitcase bombs. Send them up through the secret entrance about 10 minutes after the surface attack starts. This allows them to discretely mingle with the panicked crowd and place their charges unmolested.

If the plan goes well, Mobile suits are never needed.
If the plan goes to shit, nachtmaren rises from the waterway and SUDDENLY, ZEON EVERYWHERE.

We're trying to inflict as much damage as possible here, and the minute our MS's show up Jaburo is going to start sending their MS's to counter. Once it gets to that point, the commandos are basically a moot point.

Send the commandos in first in plainclothes, they plant bombs, bombs everywhere, and exfiltrate back to the hidden passage.

Once the bombs start going off, the commandos leave Jaburo completely back through the waterway while the MS's kool-aid into Jaburo and blow up anything the bombs missed.

>>10738390
Beam Rifles don't work well in the water unless they're a special underwater polarized type. The Gelgoog's beams aren't that type. (Z'Gok's are though, I believe.)

Also, I can't wait until we run into the Blue Destiny and get our shit kicked.

(Last one for the night)

The last time we were in Jaburo we encountered those VTOLs.

We should make sure that our ground troops carry some light AA or else see if we can stuff a small half-track AA into a converted torpedo and bring it along.

>>10738583
Disabling AA in Jaburo, if done at the same time as a conventional attack, means (you guessed it) AIR SUPPORT!

>1.) MS construction facilities
Should be a lowest priority for the attack, given that if anti-missile is taken offline, we can just send the equivalent of a SABOT at them (first charge breaches building, second showers the inside with napalm).

>2.) Command Structures
INCREDIBLY YES. If any of these are above-ground or in any way within attack range, these aren't just priority #1, they're priority #0. But are there going to be many of them available? I doubt we have intel on where the command buildings are, and any decent command building is going to be hardened as fuck.
Radio towers, IR towers, Sattelite dishes and the like are still a target though, of course. A blind enemy is an easy target.

>3.) Power Generation installations
If these are above-ground then Jaburo is stupid. They should be below-ground with only their cooling towers exposed. If Jaburo is stupid enough to have these above-ground then kill them as soon as the command structures are down. As for Cooling towers, not worth the ordinance. Better to rupture the pipes with a bouncing bomb than to blow them up with a ground attack, and the MS don't carry Air-to-ground munitions. :P

>4.) Any other targets of oppourtunity
Launch bays and Anti-air. Slows enemy reinforcing, allows our Air to reinforce. Hell, take out enough anti-orbital and nuke ... well, CONVENTIONAL MISSILE the site from orbit.

>>10738583

Actually, probably the best way to use any extra suits we have coming along. Equip them for maximum distraction and confusion capacity- lots of smoke, flashbangs, that sorta thing. The more chaos they're wreaking, the better damage we can inflict with the main team.

>>10738616
According to Zeonic Front at least, the standard sensor package for MS seems to be radar (limited in a combat environment due to Minovsky interference), thermals, and a limited sonar suite. Specialized models like E-series Zakus obviously have more powerful equipment, and I'd expect MSMs to have much more extensive sonar equipment, but that's probably optimized for underwater use, not seismic like ground pounders.

>>10738644

I like this. When thing's go ploin-shaped, we drop the hammer.

>This is, of course, assuming they won't have any thermal or related on hand.

ALL Mobile Suits have Termaloptic and Ingra Red sensors as standard, as well a limited radar.
That's another thing watch out underground, the Minovsky count will be next to zero so radar and radio will work fine.
As will Radar Guided missiles.

>>10738697

...do we have anything that can disperse minovsky particles.

>>10738679

All of Jaburo in undergound.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaburo

>>10738679
>1.) MS construction facilities
>Should be a lowest priority for the attack

If our attack fails for whatever reason those production facilities need to be DEAD. With them intact the Feds can GM spam us to death eventually.

>>10738613
>Plus this isn't an area you have any operational authority over, the attack is already planned, all you need to do is plan you're particular part.

Right. Lots of Smoke bombs, Mauve shirts with massive fuckin' explosive charges.
... Wait. Jaburo's multistage underground?
As in, VERY UNDERGROUND?
As in, LIMITED OXYGEN SUPPLY?
...
Please tell me we can get some very sooty smoke in to clog their filters. Or is suffocating people a warcrime now. :P

Mauves loaded THE FUCK up with massive satchel charges, preferably with bearings inside to pierce buildings.
Nachtmaren in their usual loadout, operating as the Front and Rear guard for the advancing Aces.
Aces carrying 1/2 very sooty smoke bombs, and 1/2 petrol bombs.
The Aces deploy the soot bombs as soon as they exit the pipe, and set the petrol bombs to go off as they leave.
The petrol should very quickly drain the oxygen supply of Jaburo.

>>10738731
UNDERGROUND-ER.
As in, even more underground than the underground.
Like, Underground Level 2.
I sure as fuck wouldn't design a base with my ordinance in line-of-sight of my power plants, that's for damn sure. :P

>>10738731

Fuuuck. This just reminded me.

Gineals Saharin. What ever happened to that guy?

>>10738719

You can pack dedicated Minovsky Spreader pods, they're roughly the size of grenades and need to be implanted into the ground.
You need something with opposable thumbs to use them though.

>>10738815
Legality of Soot and Petrol bombs?
Seems like they'd be SUPER GREAT to use in an underground environment to clog the enemy's air filters and suffocate them.

>>10738769

We are not equipping our brothers in arms with exploding mobile suits.

If you are suggesting we equip them with Mobile Suit sized Det Charges, thats something different.

>>10738815
DO THIS

Jaburo defenses would be set up to capitalize on the no-minovsky environment (would be stupid not too)

We want to have at least one of these on every mobile suit. Even suits without opposable thumbs, they can carry them for other suits to use.

Alternatively, we make the footsloggers carry them for us. (lulz)

>>10738836

The unfortunate side effect is we can limit our visibility on their home turf while we severely limit our ground troops visibility as well.

>>10738626
This is a pretty good idea for infiltration missions in urban environments. I like it

Guys, just stop responding to the troll.

>>10738473
This sounds good. Who's in what suit. Also, any chance of getting advice from Midnight Fenrir?

>>10738815
Fine, we bring a team of Marine Zaku's to hold the insertion point maybe?

>>10738794

I think he fucked off to work with Gihren after Garma pulled the plug on the Apsaulus Mark III.

>>10738900

Shit, that means we might be fighting Gromlin's once we get back into space, if we end up in open war with Ghiren.

>>10738861
>The unfortunate side effect is we can limit our visibility on their home turf while we severely limit our ground troops visibility as well.
Good point. Scrap that plan then.

>>10738839
>If you are suggesting we equip them with Mobile Suit sized Det Charges, thats something different.
Yes, that was the plan. Mobile suit sized Det charges. REALLY BIG ones that make things blow up!
But the Det charges have to have dead man's switches, armed on a timer, so even if the suits die, their ordinance still deals damage. And let's face it, they're gonna die, we're attacking the enemy's main base. We'll be lucky if ANYONE survives :P

>You can pack dedicated Minovsky Spreader pods, they're roughly the size of grenades and need to be implanted into the ground.
I like this. Unfortunately the Minovskies are charged particles, so they don't penetrate all that well. :[ At the very least we should be able to massively fuck with electronics in Jaburo.

Okay, because one guy here doesn't seem to understand Jaburo here I go.

Jaburo base covers an area roughly 40% the size of Brazil. It is at least 30 to 60 meters underground and get's it's air either from a web of armoured vents, or giant great big sea and orbital hangar bay doors, which are heavily armoured at least 20 meters thick, probably with Lunar Titanium.
The base is divided into sections, these sections are mobile, hermetically sealed and can traverse across the underground area on rails.

A little smoke will do fuck all except make you harder to spot.


Now.

What's your exit strategy, taking the possiblity of a fighting retreat into account?

>>10738644
>We have commandoes. Dress them in civilian clothes with suitcase bombs. Send them up through the secret entrance about 10 minutes after the surface attack starts. This allows them to discretely mingle with the panicked crowd and place their charges unmolested.
Is that viable? Wouldn't they be noticed? Jaburo's a pretty tight military facility!

>>10738958
>an area roughly 40% the size of Brazil
...
How can a BASE be roughly 40% the size of Brazil.

>>10738943

We survived once before.

The problem with the dead mans switches is if a friendly Mobile suit dies nearby us, we could have a lethal chain reaction. Killing us as well. So I say no to that.

Mobile Suit scaled demo charges I like.

Also Apologized. As for transporting Wappas... cant we hook Wappas to our mobile suits? Think of like.. hanging long Christmas ornamanets on a belt or harness. Same principal?

>>10738975
as the proposer of that plan, my thinking was that waiting until the surface attack starts, and the confusion and panic of civilian evacuations sets in, a small team of plainclothes guys with suitcases should go unnoticed.

Everyone should have suitcases, they're all going to bomb shelters for an indefinite amount of time, why wouldn't they pack up?

A few commandos in civilian clothes with no markings and generic suitcases shouldn't appear suspicious at all.
Use the surface attack for deception and social cover.

>>10738992

Underground. And because it follows the Rule of Cool.

>>10738958
One of the big main doors would be the best bet. We take and hold a gate long enough for some of the commandoes to find a controll room and open them. If that fails we either head back to our infiltration point or one of the underwater docks the other teams found in the last assault.

>>10738958

Long time listener, first time caller and all that.

Well. . . I'd think the options are:

A) Fight our way back to the waterway, which will probably suck if we've got limited mobility
B) Hook up with our other elements midway through Jaburo, and retreat with them out the way they came in
C) Nigh-on if not traditional Mastodon Battalion "Blow Shit Up" plan- blast our way out of Jaburo. Make a boom big enough to blast a hole straight through the roof and to the land above- so something that can get through 30-60 feet of earth and steel, straight up. Maybe carry a shaped charge going in dedicated to this function if we can't make Plan B). If we CAN make Plan B), then we just use it on a target of opportunity, and fuck that target up wholesale.

>>10738934

I... do not recognize that designation. Which MS would that be?

Also, I demand we get a Gyan High Mobility Type at some point.

>>10738992

It's mostly tunnels and rails that the mobile base blocks move along.

>>10739037

Haha we saw one of those. THey're out there.

Currently we have some of the best MS Zeon has ever produced in the One Year War at this point...

>>10739025
Liking this. I'd like to combine that with my Plans B) and C).

Also: Speaking of commando operations:

Where's Ramba Ral?

>>10739071

We left him in space to help out Kycillia against Ghiren and his 'loyalists'

>>10739033
Plan B is definitely the most plausible. A could work, but puts us at risk of pursuit for god knows how long and could likely lead us on an entirely separate retreat path from the main forces. And C...well, the original plan for breaching Jaburo's roof was Operation British, so yeah.

Our best option is to have infantry make a break for the launch bays and lock them open, while Nachtmaren fans out and destroys production facilities.

>>10739021
You're right.

So, Jaburo's a City underground (It is a massive underground complex in the heart of Brazil, which according to Tomino, is roughly the size that Tokyo was in 1979 - source http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaburo)
That makes it vulnerable to commandoes.

Now, what vulnerability would a base like that have?
Hm. I'm assuming Cavern Collapse is impossible beacuse of the way it's built.
>The base is divided into sections, these sections are mobile, hermetically sealed and can traverse across the underground area on rails.

Any possibility of flooding the rail system with magma? :D

>Also Apologized. As for transporting Wappas... cant we hook Wappas to our mobile suits? Think of like.. hanging long Christmas ornamanets on a belt or harness. Same principal?

The techs come back to you with a similar proposal of sealing them in large backs that are attached to a mobile suit that will removing it after surfacing.

>>10739025

So the exit strategy is to play it loose and go with what works?

>>10739085
Ah, right.

Hm. Well, we've got a week. Any chance we can requisition him for the assault?

Also: Where's Norris Packard? Didn't he bail us out last Jaburo assault?

>>10739037
If I remember my G Gen correctly, the Gromlin is what you get when you cross the Big Zam with a Braw Bro. So a Newtype-use anti-fleet MA. Looks really wierd, but freakishly strong.

>>10739091

A true Dorf Fortress Answer.

But I think Brazil is generally volvanically stable...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_volcanoes_in_Brazil

We tried to sabotage the rail block lines in our first assault, and ran into a gundam.

It was not fun.

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>>10738997
>The problem with the dead mans switches is if a friendly Mobile suit dies nearby us, we could have a lethal chain reaction. Killing us as well. So I say no to that.
Set det charges to {x} minutes where {x} = the time we expect to be in Jaburo before getting out, plus "Oh shit time". That'll ensure the charges go off no matter what, but we still get away!

>C) Nigh-on if not traditional Mastodon Battalion "Blow Shit Up" plan- blast our way out of Jaburo. Make a boom big enough to blast a hole straight through the roof and to the land above- so something that can get through 30-60 feet of earth and steel, straight up. Maybe carry a shaped charge going in dedicated to this function if we can't make Plan B). If we CAN make Plan B), then we just use it on a target of opportunity, and fuck that target up wholesale.
Carrying boom big enough to make a hole in Jaburo is plans A, B, C, D, E, F, all the way up to quadruple motherfuckin' ZZZZ. It's just that the USE of those explosives - the details - differ.

>>10739098
>>10739088

I'm cool with playing it loose, mate. So yeah.

Ah, and if there is ANY chance we can get Norris Packard and or Ramba Ral to help us out before we go in, since Ramba's saved our butts recently and Norris Himself bailed us out of the last Jaburo assault when it went south, I'd appreciate seeing if we can get a hold of him.

>But I think Brazil is generally volvanically stable...

>>10739099

Norris is apparently working with Gineas still... which means he's probably with the Ghiren Loyalist faction...

>>10739162
>volvanically stable

oh lawd

>>10739135
Alright:

Let's just go in carrying all the explosives.

ALL OF THEM.

And then work out what to do with them from there. We'll find a use for them. We're Nachtmaren, of Mastodon. We HAVE to leave Jaburo with at least one smoking Crater.

Out for two hours now, damned driving. . . See you folks later. And remember: Make a mess, friends.

>>10739145
We left Ral up in space, he's probably still doing damage control or cleaning up the mess Gihren made. If Norris is still under Ghinius though, he may have been forcibly transferred to the Loyalist forces.

>>10739176

Yeah,I mistype hahaha.

I think taking and holding a hanger would be good for us.

Make sure we have a beacon on hand to mark our position.

Exfiltration rules thus follows:

-Infantry/ dismounted pilots
-Mobile Suit allies
-Nachtmaren unit
-Lister.

Agreed?

>>10739162

I think Jaburo is powered primarily by Geothermal and/or tide energy isn't it?
Also, there's been a LOT of seismic impacts thanks to Operation British, it's not something I'd bank on though.

Okay, so we have a general plan hased out. What do want to do in the week before hand?

Right.

MAXIMUM FUCKIN' PLAN
Phase 1: Land attack team starts walking towards Jaburo's suspected location. Nachtmaren is NOT part of this assault.
The 12 strongest pilots in this attack are painted in Nachtmaren's colors, but Nachtmaren is NOT involved in this attack team. This team attacks whatever opening it can find, and sends Jaburo into high alert.
Phase 2: Commandoes infiltrate Jaburo via the water intake. They carry suitcase bombs, and their goal is to infiltrate Jaburo, make note of vital structures, sabotage anything that looks important (if they can get away with it), and then exfiltrate (in the chaos) via the same path the Nachtmaren takes.
Phase 3.
As many suits as can be faesably taken sneak in via the underground waterway - half of which are land suits, half of which are amphibious; the amphibious ones tow the land ones.
Everyone who ISN'T a crackshot ace carries the biggest fuckin' satchel charge they can carry (including Wappa-sized ones for wappas, MS-sized ones for MS), and chucks it on any targets identified by the commandoes - preferably Command structures, Power plants, Mobile suit facilities.
Everyone who IS a crackshot ace carries a Minovsky spreader and a lot of flares and smokes. Their goal isn't to take on the whole of jaburo. It's to get in, and STAY FUCKING ALIVE while the det packs get in position.
Phase 4. Hopefully by now the land team has breached a wall in Jaburo, or has IDENTIFIED a wall that can be breached. Nachtmaren gathers up everyone inside Jaburo and heads straight for that point.
The wall is breached, everyone GTFOs.

Thoughts, gentlemen?

>>10739249
Get training with our troops, especially Bernie. We need to be ON OUR GAME.

>>10739277

This definitely.

>>10739269
As an aside to this plan, it needs to be on fire.
>What needs to be on fire?
All of it.

>>10739249

Train Bernie up, get advice from other aces (see Midnight Fenrir), make nice with the infantry, practice with the backpacks.

>>10739249
focus our training in simulated urban environments.

Make Bernie participate in EVERY training exercise, including stints as OpFor.
cut him out of training two days before the attack to give him a chance to recuperate.

Make sure our commandos understand their roles, and (if possible) include them in our MS training regimen to better oil up this combined arms murdermachine

Grant all forces training for the jaburo attack access to our combat data, as well as allowing them to review our urban combat simulation footage.

>>10739269
Priority targets should be Power-producing plants and accessible Command bunkers.
By the end of this, Jaburo should be:
Powered down
In chaos due to damage to its leadership
Full of Minovkskys
Having a very large hole in it
and On fire.

This sets up the precursor to the "3rd invasion of Jaburo" - which is basically Commandoes stealthily derping in and sabotaging everything.

we are taking some minovsky pods, right?
Please?

I'm fucking worried about anti-MS infantry with man-portable anti-ms missiles, ambushing us from windows and side streets all over the city.

>>10739357
>Everyone who IS a crackshot ace carries a Minovsky spreader
Yep. We got that.

>>10739322
Right you are. We need Urban Training for everyone.
And "Carrying a huge fucking explosive" training for everyone else.

>>10739322

Remember when we had our ZakuII, outfitted with the boxer shield, and the extra munitions?

Can we get some ZakuIIs outfitted that way, with the MS scale Demo Charges?

ZakuII Commando.

>>10739249
see
>>10736189
Especially this
Priority: -Agressor training against Dom Teams. Since they're the fastest they're the most likely to be called in to deal with fed MS that pop up.
Reccomend using the Zaku FZ, Act Zaku and some goufs as stand-ins for Fed MS.
These guys need to be ready to deal with this shit because our unit cant be everywhere.
-Find out what MS and how many of each type will be deployed in the assault

>>10739303
Good. Practice Urban combat, Share any data about Jaburo with anyone who could use it. Practice use of Huge Fucking Explosives™ as if it were a game of Xcom.

>>10739269
Anyone have any additions or changes to this plan?

We should try to get Midnight Fenrir, or any aces with urban combat training, to get in with us.
In fact, take the 20 people with the best urban combat training with us down the infiltration pipe. More suits = more satchel charges = more damage, at the very least.

>>10739269
I like this. I like it a lot.

>>10739322
>Focus our training in simulated urban environments.
>Get Bernie involved on everything.

Do you want to train Bernie in MSM use as well? You ARE in California, there's plenty of facilities available for this.

NOTE: In order for the commando plan to work, they'll probably have to go in a day early. Garma say's that it's a risk that could go either way and ultimately he'll abide with your decision.

STILL SEND THE COMMANDO'S? Y/N?

>>10739427

Nix on the commandos.

As tough as they are... if even ONE of them talks, it could be a disaster for us.

>>10739427

Yes, send them in.

>>10739427
>STILL SEND THE COMMANDO'S?
yes plz

>Do you want to train Bernie in MSM use as well?
No, we don't have the time. If we try to train him for everything all at once he's going to information overload and none of the training will stick. I'd rather have Bernie competent in one area of warfare than clueless in all of them.

>>10739427

Yes to MSM training for Bernie, Yes to commando deployment.

Also remember to mack on Cima too.

TRAINING:
Aggressor training with Doms, Urban warfare training, Demolitions training. Share combat data with everyone.
Commandos get briefed on infiltration - their role is to send data on vital structures to the Mobile Suits who infiltrate, and to drop a suitcase bomb at these structures themselves if they are able.
Get Midnight Fenrir. Get as many Urban Warfare training people as possible.

EQUIPMENT:
Minovsky spreaders, Huge explosives, Aquatic suits (At least half) for the infiltration team so they can tow the heavy hitters. Focus on fast, mobile suits as this is Urban combat.

TACTICS:
Commandoes infiltrate and start collecting data on where the vital structures (MS production, Power plants, Command structures) in Jaburo are.
Then the main force (with nachtmaren decoys) starts drilling their way in through one of the main doors.
Nachtmaren takes as many urban warfare MS aces, and as many wappas, as they can through the infiltration pipe - carrying roughly 1/2 mix of Demolitions and Urban Fighting armaments for fighting off the enemy's Anti-anti-MS shit.
Nachtmaren shows up, blows everything up, and runs their asses over to the hole the main attack team has made.
They GTFO.

>>10739427
>STILL SEND THE COMMANDO'S? Y/N?
These aren't snitches. These are SUPER DUPER ELITE SPECIAL SPETZNAS TO THE POWER OF MOSSAD DOUBLE FBI operatives. They likely wouldn't talk if their balls were cut off.

>>10739502
Though, if possible, have their suitcase bombs be more discreet. We're actually using our main attack force for demolitions; these guys serve as scouts who paint targets for us so we can get In and Out as quickly as possible before the entirity of Jaburo rapes us.

>>10739502
even if they weren't super hardcore (which they are)
They all know they only have to hold out for a few days before Jaburo gets fucked six ways to sunday and they get rescued.

>>10739427
Hold off on the commandos, they can go in with us in the assault.
Train Bernie in MSM use.

>>10739520
Less than that, they have to hold out for less than 24 hours.

Nachtmaren won't leave without them unless we're completely overwhelmed.

What's MSM stand for?

>>10739558

Mobile Suit Marine

It's good to see proper planning from you guys!

>>10739269
This is great.

Also, with regards to aggressor training, while the Doms are the fastest thing we can sortie, they also have a primary drive system that is intrinsically different from every Feddie MS we've encountered. I suggest we use Goufs and FZ or Zaku II Kais for GMs, and B3 Goufs, Act Zakus, and Gelgoogs for Gundams.

In addition, there is only one problem with the plan I linked. What if we can't blow through a wall? We should give somebody an Agg for our backup exit strategy. Keep that person in reserve and safe, just in case we need them. Maybe Bernie, since we don't know what he should do.

>>10739427

What's MSM? If it doesn't detract from the rest of his training, absolutely.

Yes to commandos. This is the kind of risk worth taking.

>>10739600

>We should give somebody an Agg for our backup exit strategy.

When all else fails, use a bigger gun.

>>10739600
>What if we can't blow through a wall?
Plan A: Use explosives.
Plan B: Use MORE EXPLOSIVES.
We're taking ... what, 40 commandoes, 20 wappas and 12 MS' worth of boom with us?
With 24 MS infiltrating via the waterway (of which 6 are the motherfuckin' Nachtmaren), HALF of which have satchel charges (and the other half of which have "combat in an urban environment" stuff, plus minovsky spreaders), that's enough boom to take out pretty much any wall in Jaburo.

>>10739600
>What if we can't blow through a wall?
Our marine suits essentially have unlimited ammo on their beam guns, and can rapid fire them. We just use our beam cannons to burn an outline the size of an MS then kick it open.

>>10739632
or just keep an ms-scale det pack in reserve

>>10739658
>use our beam cannons to burn an outline the size of an MS then kick it open.

you, sir, are made of THE RIGHT STUFF

CRASH A GAW INTO THE DOOR IF WE CAN'T BLOW IT UP.
MAKE SURE THE GAW IS FULL OF C4.
WE SHALL CALL IT THE DOOR GORING' C-4 GAW OF WAR.

>>10739632
>>10739659
>>10739658

This is all of course assuming the closest wall, and easiest means of escape to our forces is just a wall, and not a wall covered by 30-60 meters of Nuke-Proof Rock. What if we get cut off by Feddie MS? What if Amuro shows up in the G3? What if we need a WAY faster way out of Jaburo than the plan currently allows for? Contingencies, gentlemen. Contingencies.

>>10739670
And Arty has ALWAYS been made of The Right Stuff.

>>10739707
> What if we need a WAY faster way out of Jaburo than the plan currently allows for?
FASTER EXPLOSIVES.

>What if Amuro shows up in the G3?
Call for Char.
Promise there will be wingmen.

>>10739707
sometimes you have to stand and fight, man.
Jaburo is arguably the most important base on earth, this is arguably the crux of the OYW.
This moment, right here.

If we fail here, there's no point in surviving. All we will live to see is everything we've fought and died for get ruined by Gihren and the Federation.

Escape, retreat, these are not options. We are here to destroy Jaburo, or die trying!
SIG ZEON

>>10739713
That's not how it works.

>>10739729
For all we know Char is assassinating Gihren right now. He might not even be in the same theater. Shit, he might not be on Earth.

>>10739707
Gee thanks! I still feel pritty bad about the Hawaii incident though.

>>10739479
>Also remember to mack on Cima too.

Unfortunately you fail to find her in between training sessions.

The week goes as follows, you train heavily for urban combat environment. Making sure that Bernie is up to speed, one never knows when they might be involved in a tense close quarters battle with a Gundam piloted by the cute redhead you macking on yesterday.

Uh, hypothetically.

Due to popular vote whilst your training, a team of about 40 commando's are sent in to Jaburo via the secret entrance, armed with satch cases, locator beacons and the best fake documents we can get. One can only hope it's enough.

In the evening you begin with Plan Nachtmaren Nachtmaren Nachtmaren, and start picking out the best pilots within the 3 earmarked battalions. You find about 17 candidates you think are up to snuff and have them report to your office and brief them on their mission.
You also talk to the Outfitters about getting special jacket patches and/or medals for those of them who survive being an El Meurto Grande.

On the fifth day, training is going well, you've all familiarised youself with urban combat techniques, working in tandem with Wappa Dragoons, you're beginning to think you might actually get out of this alive.
Garma sends a blanket missive to all CO's to attend the breifing room. It looks like the final run up to the operation has begun.

>>10739707

He raises a good point. Do we know if there are any feddie carriers here? With the frequency that Trojan Horses have been appearing, it would make good sense that one might be stationed here, what with Jaburo's importance.

Do we know anyone who can hijack a carrier in case we need to bug out via an alternative route?

Hey, I have a question.
If colony drop is illegal
And nukes are illegal
What if we fill a Colony completely full of Deuterium, except for its outsides, which contain conventional Uranium/Plutonium nuclear material, so that we have a Megaton Hydrogen Bomb.
No, not a Hydrogen Bomb with a 1MT yield. A Hydrogen bomb that literally weighs 1,000,000 kilograms.
And then we drop it somewhere.

Would that be worth the illegal-ness?

>>10739744
You mispelled Sieg Zeon, and are obviously unaware of why Zeon lost the Canon OYW. Also, you're not aware of the mission objectives. While destroying Jaburo would be nice, we're talking about 40% of Brazil here. It's not going to happen from such a comparatively small incursion. We're here to take out the enemy MS production facilities, along with any targets of opportunity we find. Our survival, and the survival of the majority of our forces means more to the Terrestrial Theater than you know.

>>10739745
>For all we know Char is assassinating Gihren right now.
Nope, Char knows Gihren killed his dad. Or at least suspects it.

>>10735783

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>>10739768
Rolling to see if any of the commando teams are caught.

>>10739781
That sounds like it might destroy the planet.

>>10739815
He's on a secret mission for Kycilia right now, which means, given the current Political situation, he's probably fucking some Gihren shit up. But regardless, we have NO idea where Char is, and thus cannot count on him from a strategic standpoint.

>>10739781
Only if you drop it in the middle of the atlantic where the plates are drifting apart and the crust is thinner, so that the explosion opens up the earth's mantle to the atmosphere and covers it in a blanket of dust that lasts for a century and snuffs out all life on the planet.

>>10739836
>That sounds like it might destroy the planet.
Well it's nice to have a plan C for spacenoid independence from earth.
No more earth, no more dependence.

>>10739836
>But regardless, we have NO idea where Char is, and thus cannot count on him from a strategic standpoint.

All we have to do is say "Gee, we sure do have a lot of disposable mobile suits here with disposable pilots! If only there was someone who could be their wingman..." and then suddenly Char.

>>10739781
No. A colony is a three-kilometer long projectile, the largest in history. A portion of one annihilated 16% of Australia. Rigging one up like that would likely irreparably damage the Earth.


You fail to exactly understand WHY this is all illegal. When it wasn't, half the human race was killed off in a week. We pull a stunt like that, the Feds unlock their UNLIMITED NUKE WORKS, and Side 3 is annihilated, along with anything else they think would be worth blowing up.

No.

>>10739881
>irreparably damage the Earth.
So what's the downside? ^_^

>>10739881
Thank you Zeta. You saved me from typing that rant myself.

All retardation aside, we should take one Agg with us. Agree/Disagree?

>>10739894
NO BECAUSE THE AGG IS NOT THE ZOGOK

> half the human race was killed off in a week.
What if we kill off the entire human population on earth? Then we can be all like "Ha ha you can't nuke space or you'll be extinct, neener neener"

>>10739768

"...and that about covers it, Lieutenant."

I sat across from Cmdr. David Lister, Hero of Zeon and CO of the Nachtmaren. Maybe "sat stunned" would be a better choice of words. I gathered my wits and asked,

"So let me see if I've got this straight. You want me to fight as hard as I ever have in my entire life, so terror and confusion in enemy ranks and generally act like the scourge of the Federation? And the only thing that differentiates this from any other mission I've ever done is that I'll be painted up as an El Meurto Grande and be a giant target on the field?"

"And if you survive, you'll get a medal and a patch identifying you to all and sundry as a brevet Nachtmaren."

Well when you put it like that. What idiot WOULDN'T jump at the chance to do his job for a bigger payout?

"So when does my suit get its new colours?"

>>10739894
The Agg is too much of a liability at this point, unless we really think there's a good chance we'll have to dig our way out. We have a way in, so until that point it's basically dead weight.

>You fail to exactly understand WHY this is all illegal.
Oh, I know why it's ILLEGAL - because people don't want masses of people to die. I just don't see why it's WRONG.

No Agg

Just no.

stop it. Stop bringing it up. No Agg.

>>10739919
The land attack team can take the Agg. They can use it to open a door for us.

>>10739781
>If colony drop is illegal
>fill a Colony
>drop it somewhere.
>colony drop

>>10739776
Not really, the only ones who would know is Solomon and thair captured Trojan Horse, and if they have, you haven't heard anything.
Damn civil war.

>>10739924
>itstimetostopposting.jpeg

>>10739788

This. The more damage we do to the Federation MS facilities, the bigger a technological edge (and a smaller penalty we suffer in opposing numbers) we maintain.

Random destruction other than as a distraction while we do this is a waste of our resources.

>>10739781

Nothing is worth it. Treaty broken, Federation free to mushroom cloud/gas opponents in detail. We lose, both in strategic terms and in keeping Zeon morale from plunging from prosecuting a "dirty war" that kills civilians (and habitats) by the millions or billions.

>>10739930
You were obviously not present for the first Jaburo assault.

>>10739919
First legitimate argument so far. Thank you Zeta!

>>10739939
Not a terrible idea.

>>10739940
Well yes it's illegal.
But it also makes a crater the size of Saudi Arabia and opens up a massive portion of the earth's mantle (and thus sulfuric dust) to the atmosphere, sort of like an extinction-level meteor strike.
I'm thinking that if we drop it directly on the equator, at the mid-atlantic ridge, the dust thrown up should kill any life on earth bigger than a bacterium.

>>10739939
>>10739978
Using the Agg above ground would require a good level of coordination between teams, something the sheer distance and amount of bedrock might not allow. Not to mention the ECM the Feds will deploy above ground.

Also, the Agg will require a guard, which is troops that could be better spent running around as a distraction, or locating the main launch gates for infiltration.

>>10740026
>Using the Agg above ground
Good post! I agree with you completely, let's use that Agg above ground.

>>10739924
>Not understanding why annihilating the entire earth's population is wrong"

You have to be a troll. No one can be this fucking stupid.

>>10740058
Only the population on the SURFACE of the earth!
Not the population in space!
It's not complete extinction, and it would guarantee independence from earth!

>>10740026

This, leave the Agg.

>>10740020
Yeah. We're waging a war of conquest here. Blowing up the entire thing we're trying to take over seems a bit counterproductive.

>>10740065

Then the people in space with family on earth rebels.

Stop it.

>>10740072
Well all right you can keep the earth intact.
I just think it was a good Plan C, is all.

>>10740026
Legit points. But the Agg is an MSM. Why not simply leave it dormant upriver in the Amazon in case we need it? Stick a Combat Engineer/Pilot or some shit in there, and just have him sit tight until it's time to beat feet, or we need help. The problem with this idea is that I can't think of how we'd get into contact with him, especially with the combined shit both us and the Feddies will be throwing.

>>10740092
What's Zeon's goal(s), again?
I'm just saying, a way to massively destroy the vast majority of the human species is always a good plan to have in reserve.

>>10740102

... you're actually Ghiren Zabi, aren't you?

>>10740020

Dipshit. Genocide is not civilized warfare, and we're fucking spacenoids, the superior, civilized humanity fighting to free ourselves from the tyranny of the earthbound.

Re-enacting the K-T event with technology is unacceptable, barbaric, and you deserve to experience re-entry to atmosphere clad only in boxer shorts for such a suggestion. GTFO, pic related to your new job as atmospheric debris.

>>10740065
And then what? With the Earth fucked up that badly, there's no more Lagrange points, and all the colonies drift off, dooming humanity to a slow, cold death in space.

Clearly you have some major ethical problems and should probably find some other quest to participate in.

>>10740120
you're so close-minded! the K-T event was awesome. And what do we have technology FOR except to make cooler explosions?

>>10740114
And what if I -am- the legitimate ruler of Zeon? :P

>>10740112
TROLLAN TROLL IS TROLLAN. This plan has been debunked like a trillion times over. Everyone can stop responding to him now.

stop feeding the troll

this is 4chan 101.
get it together /tg/

Alright, training, done. Preparations. Done.

Zeon Sized Detonation Packs?

Done.

>>10740136
>With the Earth fucked up that badly, there's no more Lagrange points,
... Um, no. The earth still retains almost all of its mass and its lagrange points are fine.
I'm not suggesting blowing the earth up, that would be counter-productive. Just suggesting eradicating all life on the planet's surface larger than a bacterium by use of enough deuterium to create a fusion explosion that opens up a caldera 200km in diameter directly to the earth's mantle and covers the entire planet in a nuclear winter of volcanic dust.

Even if the guy is trolling Hard as fuck, I do like that Super Nuke Colony Bomb idea.

>>10740204
A detonation pack as big as the whole of ZEON?
That's SO done! It can even be made out of ... those pissy little 'conventional' weapons.

>>10740204
About those, who do we mount them on? If they're anything like normal supplementary MS equipment, we'd need proper hands to use them. The only MSMs we're taking that have those are Hygoggs, and they have some ginormous fingers.

>>10740204
>>10740220

Meant Zeon Mobile Suit Det Pack...

>>10740136
> there's no more Lagrange points
Well then we'll just take the orbital path that Earth previously occupied.

>>10740136
>Clearly you have some major ethical problems and should probably find some other quest to participate in.
Ethics is for pussies! Planes and Mercs, fuck yeah. :)

>Ethics is for pussies!

someone is in the wrong thread

>>10740072

Especially given that we've already taken over about 50% of it and have a shitton of troops on their ourselves.

Okay, so after you all shuffle into a briefing room, the lights darken and Garma takes the podium.
It sort of reminds you of how Operation Elephant got started all those months ago back in space.

"Gentlemen, the time for out second attack on Jaburo has come. As you all know, we have been preparing for a second attack ever since the end of the last one, and effectively it's know or never. In two day's time, we will be mounting the a full scale attack on Federal HQ, involving 7 special independant units, and 3 battalions of Mobile Suits drawn from across the theatre. Aside from this 3 Mechanised Infantry Battalions and 9 Air Squadrons will also be taking part. Your roles in this mission will be as follows. We will be attacking Jaburo in a multi-pronged simultaneous suprise attack, which will occur just before dawn of November the 11th. 1st Battalion and attatched assets will be attacking via Gaw Paradrop from the north east, in from the coast, 2nd Battalion from the North West, you will engage in a rolling drop operation, taking down enemy flak nests and pockets of resistance but avoiding any large scale delaying engagments before meeting up with the other battalion in the middle. You're targets are those of oppourtunity, and you will be on the lookout for any way into the base you can find. If our commando teams already infiltrating Jaburo have done their jobs this will be made easier due to sabotage actions. Now for the underground infiltration teams..."

He turns to you.

>>10740183

Then we invite you to meet Char with a teacup, and your argument is invalid.

(Ignoring Genocide Options from here on in.)

Make a suggestion here. You want that Agg working for us, let's get one of those dozen+ auxilary pilots in it. Once we find where that water entry comes out to (commandos?), we set that Agg to digging an escape tunnel topside that goes from surface to that point underground. Once we're clear, we blow the Jaburo-side entry shut and proceed at full land speed with our non-amphibious suits topside, while our aquatic types can use the water intake for a full-speed exit. If nothing else, the split may very well insure that some troops escape if everything truly goes to hell.

>>10740208
>Super Nuke Colony Bomb idea.
Hm. now that you put it that way it doesn't sound as cool as before.
I guess the idea doesn't translate that well to a space setting after all.

(The original plan was to get a Superfreighter with a Nuclear or Fusion engine, and have it completely filled with supercooled Deuterium - 100 kilotons of the stuff is a decent tare for a superfreighter. Then nuclear devices placed around the ship explode, causing at least half of the Deuterium to undergo fusion. The Ship would be parked in international waters on the mid-atlantic ridge to maximise devastation, though the original plan put it closer to 35 north, to devastate the atlantic coast and europe with a tsunami, and to localise the nuclear winter to the northern hemisphere)

>>10740283
>via Gaw Paradrop
I am very concerned about the sort of danger they'll be exposed to from Fed AA units.

>>10740359
not our problem, really.
I'm concerned as well, but we can't do anything about it without jeopardizing our primary mission.

Risk is an inherent part of war, as least we know they will fight and die with honor

>>10740342
Excellent idea.

>>10740359
Sounds like we'll be sabotagan some of those nests ourselves.

>>10740372
>Risk is an inherent part of war
YES!
When you say "Risk"
I say "EXPLOSIONS!"
Fuck yeah, risk!

>>10740208
>Even if the guy is trolling Hard as fuck, I do like that Super Nuke Colony Bomb idea.

So did the primary bad guy from Crossbones if I recall, he later decided on simply mass-producing giant MA's armed with Nukes in the end though.

----

"The Infiltration teams are as follows: Nachtmaren Unit, the already deployed Vandermanns 7th Commandos, and the Mashiba Team. Your role will be to infiltrate Jaburo and using the hopefully deployed targeting beacons to find and destroy Jaburo's MS production facilities, and then try to take out central command. Even if none of the top brass are still there, the destruction of the CnC facilities will greatly hamper the federations overall strategic ability in South America. The Mashiba Teams role will be to draw fire away from the Nachtmaren Unit by attacking nearby targets of oppourtunity, as well as locating hangar bays that will allow the conventional troops entry into the base."

>>10740359

We're going to have our hands full, and the more trouble we can cause down below, the bigger the disruption to their C3 and hence their anti-air capacity.

This is going to hurt. You don't attack the biggest enemy base around and not expect to need to pay in blood and metal to do it.

>Now for the underground infiltration teams..."

>He turns to you.
OH BOY OH BOY WE GET TO EXPLOSIONS!

>>10740408
We did issue cyanide capsules to those infiltrating commando teams right?

>>10740408
All_of_my_:D_reaction_images.jpg

>>10740497
Naw, chemical weapons are a violation of the antarctic treaty, they have conventional explosives instead.

>>10740454
While I don't necessarily agree with you, I DO like the cut of your jib.

>>10740408
Sounds good to me. Also, this opens a Mack-on-Cima path. We can be all like "Hey you're taking fire for us tomorrow, let me take you to dinner tonight."

Then we can see who is jealous. Well, jealous and female, anyway. Then mack on them. Harem end.

>>10740516
No you dolt, cyanide capsules are so you can commit suicide to prevent capture.

>>10740516
Suicide pill man. Not a bomb.

>>10740548
>>10740552
What's the point of carrying cyanide if you're only carrying a tiny amount of it? There's no overkill in that! =[

>>10740573
6/10 Notbadtroll.jpg

Now shut the fuck up.

>>10740606
No, you shut the fuck up!
I like my sacrificial rookies and my war crimes and my chemical weapons and my nuclear explosions and my mass extinctions. I like them as much as /tg/ likes ladyboys, and that's a LOT!

>>10740497
>We did issue cyanide capsules to those infiltrating commando teams right?

Yes. They did indeed all get Cyanide dentalwork done.

"Now for the Air units, aside from the Dopp, Dodai and Guncopter units, we'll also be using the new SaberTiger heavy fighters as well, so hopefully we'll have a better air-to-air capacity than we would have previously."

The briefing continues in much the same vein.
You have 2 days, you'll probably need them to make sure everythings up and ready.
Is there anything you want to get done during those 2 days?

>>10740640
shut up, stop fagging up the thread, take your bullshit elsewhere, nobody cares, etc etc etc etc

stop trolling it's boring and wasting space

>>10740651
>Zeon heavy fighters

My god, finally. I was beginning to wonder if the poor Dopp would have to win the air war on its own.

>>10740651
not really.
Maybe requisition a sidearm if we don't already have one.

I'll just vote for timeskip to the good stuff

>>10740651
TRAIN EVERYONE IN URBAN COMBAT
TRAIN EVERYONE IN THE USAGE OF EXPLOSIVES
TRAIN ALONGSIDE THE 7TH COMMANDOS AND MASHIBA TEAMS.
IN FACT, LET'S HAVE TRAINING, WHERE PEOPLE FROM THE 7TH COMMANDOS AND MASHIBA AND NACHTMAREN ARE SPLIT RANDOMLY UP INTO 2 EQUAL TEAMS, AND THEN THEY GO AT IT IN A MOCK URBAN ENVIRONMENT, TRYING TO PLANT FAKE EXPLOSIVES ON "TARGETS" OR TRYING TO STOP THE OTHER TEAM FROM PLANTING EXPLOSIVES ON TARGETS.

>>10740660
No, you!
Now when do we get to execute some civilians? :^)

>>10740640

This is Zeonquest. Gihrenquest is another thread entirely.

>>10740651
Can we get some stats on those fighters?

Okay, after some last minute training, you prepare to get some sleep for the last night.

Also, what are we having Bernie pilot for this? We never really decided.

>>10740651
Er, shit, talk to Okawara (sp?) about stuff we can use beam chaff on. Like anti-beam plates for our MS.

RALLY SPEECH WRITAN TIME!

(To be given immediately before Deployment to all assembled forces.)

Ladies, and Gentlemen. Soldiers of Zeon. This is it. The day all of us have been waiting for. Every one of us. This is the day we strike at the heart of our enemy.

Even as our Homeland sees fit to try and tear itself apart, I look across all of you and see nothing but Patriots, warriors whose hearts share the same burning love for the Principality as mine! And now we are to begin an undertaking that we've feverishly dreamt of since the beginning of this destructive conflict!

Jaburo has long been the Federation's mightiest symbol. An impregnable underground fortress immune to even the mightiest weapons.

And now we set forth to destroy it.

We will succeed where the mightiest weapons science could produce have failed.

And why? Why will a small group of men and machines bring victory where even the splitting of the atom could not?

Because there is one thing that Fortress is NOT immune to. And that is the will of Patriot's. The heart of Warrior's. The Courage of Soldier's

The Earth Federation has taken something from all of us! They have taken someone from all of us!

FRIENDS, FAMILY, LOVERS, COMRADES. THE FEDERATION HAS TAKEN ALL OF THOSE FROM US!

NOW, PATRIOTS. NOW SOLDIERS OF ZEON.

LET US RISE!

LET US GO FORTH AND WAGE WAR UPON THE EARTH FEDERATION!

THEY HAVE TAKEN SOMETHING FROM ALL OF US!

LET US TAKE EVERYTHING FROM THEM!

>>10740809
I'd say another Z'Gok E.
Those things are pretty survivable.

>>10740809
Acguy with 1 beam and 1 MG arm or a Z'gok.

>>10740849
Agreed.

>>10740849
thirded

>>10740651

Yep, got my curiousity. What are those new heavy fighters? (The pic is a pair of Federation craft)

>>10740848
*snickers and giggles*
Sir, did you order a Large Ham? :D

Why is there a recolored UN Squadron logo in the OP?

>>10740848
You are about to embark upon the Great Crusade, toward which we have striven these many months. The eyes of the world are upon you. The hopes and prayers of liberty-loving people everywhere march with you.

>>10740848
My people. Sons and daughters of Zeon.... For many years, we have been a broken nation... Shunned, oppressed, and conquered by those we sought to escape. ...Ten years ago, I asked for time, and that time was granted by you. You, the strength in my arm, the holders of my dreams.... Our forefathers embarked on the greatest exodus in the history of all mankind... An exodus for freedom. side 3 became that freedom... Our new colonies changed our bodies. At first, it weakened us, but in fact, we were growing... stronger. In the time you have given me, I have rebuilt our nation, I have rebuilt our strength, and I have rebuilt our pride!... Our enemies at home have been re-educated. We have given them new insights into our cause. On this day, we stand united once more. On this day, those driven to divide us will hear our voice! On this day, we shall act as one, and we shall be ignored NO MORE! Defenders of the ZEONIC dream, NOW IS OUR TIME!


It really does fit in quite well

Alright lets do this.

>>10740776
>Can we get some stats on those fighters?

They're basically just copies of the Saberfish painted green.

>>10741009
I tried to avoid too much Patton-esque language in there. I also tried to use the language I'd used in past speeches. It came out alright, I think. Your gentlemanly thoughts?

>>10741023

Hmm. Still respectable, as it gives us units that can stay in the air that pack a decent punch to boot.

>>10741023
Ha! I actually wrote up a bit with Mauser leading a squadron of modified Saberfish in Operation Terminus. Using Colombian IFF's to bluff their way into the Fed bomber formation. Only to find out there was a second wing of Fed bombers incoming after they blew their cover.

"My people... Sons and daughters of Zeon. This much I know. The history of these days will be written in blood. By crushing the armies of our enemy, by seizing the weapons they thought to turn against us, we were fighting for our very existence. But if there are those who would deny us peace; refuse us our rightful place in the universe, then we will unleash such terrible vengeance that generations yet unborn will cry out in anguish!...The enemy may shatter our bodies, but they cannot break our spirit. Even now they advance on our colonies, to seize by force what they cannot claim by right. They cannot imagine what awaits them. WE WILL SMITE THE INVADERS FROM OUR SKIES! Though they sweep over our colonies like meteor showers; never again will we bow before them; never again endure their oppression; never again endure their tyranny. We will strike without warning and without mercy; fighting as one hand, one heart, one soul. We will shatter their dreams and haunt their nightmares, drenching our ancestors' graves with their blood. And as our last breath tears at their lungs; as we rise again from the ruins of our cities... they will know, the future belongs to Zeon.


Fuck it really does work well

So, we're not using the Gigan here, right?
Can we donate ours to the regular invasion to give them better air support?

>>10741049
It was Eisenhower actually but yeah yours was nice.

>>10741099
on that note, will the Outer Heaven be participating in the surface attack?

An extra cruiser with beamspam could probably go a long ways

Okay one last count, this is what I've gotten our MS list as.

David: Act Zaku
Jolyne: Hygogg or Z'Gok E
Zolomon: Hygogg
Elaine: Hygogg or Z'Gok E
Calvin: Hygogg
Hovis: Zock
Bernie: Z'Gok

Also, just so you know, we probably wont be doing the Jaburo assault tonight, I'd prefer it if we did it when I'm not so tired and under the weather.

>>10741120

Most likely, although it's been ordered to knacker itself doing so, as it's still your primary extraction route.

>>10741126
I am ok with this loadout. Hope you feel better.

>>10741162
Seconded.

>although it's been ordered to knacker itself doing so
Um... I dont, uh. Translation for us colonials please?

>>10741146
>although it's been ordered to NOT knacker itself doing so, as it's still your primary extraction route.
>NOT KNACKER ITSELF

Oh god. This is why I don't want to do the main attack tonight.

Thanks for running this Quest tongiht, despite your skull attempting it's own Jaburo compartmentalized rail system switching.

Feel better soon Apologized.

>>10741244
Then don't. Just take a nap or whatever and come back tomorrow.

The Hivelistermind of Anon definitely prefers a well rested apologized. Much done, enough done. Sleep the sleep of the just.

David: Act Zaku, Beam Rifle, Bullpup, Heat Saber, Boxer Shield
Jolyne: Z'Gok E, Standard Weapons, Missile Attachment
Zolomon: Hygogg, Standard Weapons, Missile Attachment
Elaine: Z'Gok E, Standard Weapons, Missile Attachment
Calvin: Hygogg, Standard Weapons, Missile Attachment
Hovis: Zock, Standard Weapons
Bernie: Z'Gok E, Standard Weapons, Missile Attachment

With your team assembled and as prepared as they'll ever be you decide to get an early night, you'll have to be up by 3 tommorow.

"So, here we go again huh boss?" Zolomon says to you as you make your way back to your quarters.

"Yeah, hopefully with less suprise mobile suits, and us in something better than what appeared to be a Mobile Suit Mariachi Band."

"We should totally trick those Jaburo Specials with like giant instruments and do that when we win." Zolomon suggests.

"Yeah well, that's enough jinxing for one night Zolomon."

"You sure? I can talk about how I'm only four months away from retirment and show you family photos if you want."

"Goddamn stop trying to get us all killed!"

You get a reasonable amount of sleep, and are waken up in what is essentially still the night by your alarm going off. Dragging yourself up you get dressed and prepared and meet up with the rest of Nachtmaren.

You feel a speech going on.
>>10740848

"Gentlemen... This is it."

As you mosey up to the launch pad you see the Zanzibar II Lili Marleen loading up the now reinforced Mashiba Team all armed with their new Mobile Suits you give Lt. Girahou a wave as you load up.

Garma comes on the line and addresses the troops.

"Men and Women of Zeon, You are about to embark upon the Great Crusade, toward which we have striven these many months. The eyes of the world are upon you. The hopes and prayers of liberty-loving people everywhere march with you."

The Outer Heaven takes off. It is time.

TO BE CONTINUED.

>>10741497
Awh, Gosh, Apologized. Thanks for using it! :D

And great thread! GO REST. VANQUISH THAT FOUL CONTAGION FROM YOUR FORM.

>>10741535

The irritating thing is I hadn't had a headache in almost 2 weeks by this point. Then I have a couple of late nights, and drive into and out of cambridge twice to drop of and pick up my Car, I hit rush hour traffic on the way out and OH LOOK THERE'S A HEADACHE.

I blame Nissan.
I'm going to be wasted tommorow, I can feel it.

>>10741576
Fuck Nissan then. And just chill and rest if you're feeling out of it tomorrow. You've earned it!

>>10741576
Another great quest apologized.
Get some rest bro.

OMAKE

MS-14F Gyan Marine

In the last months of the One Year War, the Legitimacy of Zeon introduced the MS-14 Gyan as a direct snub to the Loyalist's Gelgoog. Gyan variants also appeared to fill specific mission roles, and one variant was the MS-14F Gyan Marine. Built exclusively for Zeon's marine troops, the Gyan Marine (or "F-type," as it is sometimes called) featured improved thrusters, speed and maneuverability, as well as external propellant tanks to increase its range while offsetting the extra fuel used by its more powerful thrusters. The beam sword of the original Gelgoog was replaced with a Beam Lance and The original Gyans Needle Missile and Mine deploying shield was replaced with a smaller more efficient shield, which was tougher, more durable, lighter and similarily armed. With its good cost performance, the Gyan Marine was perhaps the one of the most heavily mass-produced Gyan variants built, with many units surviving the war.

>>10741838

I wonder if we're going to have a chance to talk some more with Cima later on?

>>10741838
>>10741854
Oh god dammit. I figured we'd still be getting Gelgoogs but ones adapted to fit the united maintinence plan.

>>10742146
Being Neutral has its advantages. We should be able to deploy both 'googs and Gyans. And also, the faster we end that Civil War, the faster we have direct access to both.

>>10742210
But I want the Gelgoog Jaeger now dammit!
*Thows fit*

>>10742235
You can't have it now! Blame Gihren! Beat him up and then you can have it.