>LOOK STATS
Hit Dice: 4d6+12 HP (28/28 HP)
Base Attack/Grapple: +2/+6
Masterwork Knife +7 melee (1d4+4), 19-20/x2 crit
Claws +6 melee (1d4+2)
Bite +6 melee (1d6+4)
Composite Longbow +5 ranged (1d8+2), x3 crit
Longsword +6 melee (1d8+4), 19-20/x2 crit

AC 19 (+3 dex, +4 natural, +2 leather armor)
Str 18, Dex 17, Con 17, Int 14, Wis 17, Cha 14
Fort +6, Reflex +7, Will +4
+7 Initiative
60 foot land speed, 20 foot climb speed, 30 foot swim speed
Membrane for gliding (40 ft (clumsy) in favourable winds)
Scent, Low Light Vision, Darkvision 60ft, Electricity Sense, Trapfinding

Devour, Every Last Bite
Poison: with Bite, DC 14, 1d6 Primary & Secondary Con damage, 3 uses/day
Stunning Shock: 2d8 nonlethal electricity to living opponents, one target w/in 5 feet, DC 14 half
Ferocity
Improved Grab
Jet, Ink Cloud (in water)
Immunity to Electricity
Language: Common (voices: young boy, man)
Proficiencies: dagger, club, all martial weapons, light armor

Sorcerer Casting: Detect Magic 5/day (10% Arcane Spell Failure Chance)

Total skill bonuses (when higher than stat):
Jump +25 (can use Dex)
Balance +17
Swim +14
Hide +13
Listen +13
Move Silently +13
Spot +13
Handle Animal +7
Climb +6 (plus climb speed) (can use Dex)
Use Magic Device +6
Bluff +5
Diplomacy +5
Disguise +5
Escape Artist +5
Knowledge (Local-Thurminham general) +6
Knowledge (Local-Thurminham underworld) +5
Knowledge (Local-Cult of the Devourer) +7
Survival +4 (+7 when tracking by scent)

Fuck yes, DD is back.

Feats:
- Agile, Alertness, Athletic, Stealthy (+2/+2 skill feats)
- Skill focus: Bluff, Diplomacy
- Weapon Finesse
- Improved Initiative
- Great Fortitude
- Point Blank Shot
- Run
- Endurance
- Track

>LOOK INVENTORY
92 gp, 79 silver, 92 copper
Masterwork Knife, Cricket Bat, Garrote, Sap, Longsword
Composite Longbow (+2 Str), 45 arrows
Leather Armor
Decent Clothes
20 ft + 50 ft rope
7 flasks of high proof alcohol
Potions: Strength
Feather token (bird)
License to carry a longsword and longbow, made out to Soveliss, non-afflicted elf.
Unknown building key
At inn: travelling equipment

>LOOK ALLIES
Claire (human wizard novice)
[No lasting name] (Bodysnatcher. Last seen in barbarian body)

>LOOK OTHER STUFF
Uncanny Luck points: 1
General Luck points: 0

Today's mission
BE NICE TO CLAIRE

>>12776684
>92 gp, 79 silver, 92 copper
Ignore that, I missed updating that line. Current funds are 43 copper pieces.

Oh hell yes

>>12776666
Welcome Back Double D.

Also, nice quads. It reminds me of the fact that we are an eternally growing being of ultimate destruction that will one day best the gods.

rolled 72 = 72

hows our clothing?

It would be in poor taste to meet gaul covered in soot/blood/shit/spoons/filth or some other thing I missed.

Holy fuckballs, this quest is still going on? I remember seeing the first one, never actually looked at the thread. Still don't really care enough too. Carry on.

>hows our clothing?

You stole some decent, but not /too/ decent stuff off of a clothesline and managed to not get spotted in the process. Your hobo-like clothing can be burned at your leisure.

>>12776772
Updates have been spotty over the past several months. It used to be very frequent, and if it had stayed that way it might be done already. By thread-count it's not as long as numerous other quests, like Frost Giant or Zeon Quest.

>>12776666
DD!

rolled 91 = 91

>>12776786
drop it down a smoking chimeny then,

get the clothes on and suggest that an accident with an alchemical vial lead to their demise, BUT ONLY IF HE ASKS

>>12776854
wat.

"You... did you... CHANGE CLOTHES?!"

Really now.

>>12776854
I'd say we might just be better off tossing them in a dumpster somewhere - less likely to raise suspicion that way.

In any case, if it's time for our meeting, we shouldn't kee him waiting. I say we go meet Gaul.

>>12776831
>>Frost Giant Quest: Finished at 81 threads
>>Zeon Quest: Just had thread 82
Yeah we've got a ways to go before getting even close to that.

rolled 15 = 15

>>12776863
be prepared bitch

besides, how many sets of clothes do you think he thinks we have as a general working dude?

>>12776876
Mm hm

>>12776893
We're not going to be maintaining that facade for much longer if we do decide to travel with him, and considering the number of enemies we've made just recently we need to start thinking about doing one final and exhaustive ransacking of this town for meat and loot before skipping out. If we expect him to have our back, we're going to have to go full disclosure.

>go meet Gaul
Back to the Broken Club you go. There's a couple patrons rolling dice in the corner when you step inside, and the barkeep waits with almost rudely obvious expectation for you to order something.

Gaul has not yet arrived.

What now?

>>12776942
Wait outside the bar.
We get to see him as he arrives, including which direction he comes from, and we get to greet him and enter together, as brothers would, rather than us going first and waiting impatiently with a half-empty drink.

>>12776942
Meh, order a mug of ale and sit in the sameish corner we sat in last time.

rolled 13 = 13

>>12776942
order a lower alcohol level beverage, and ask whats on special.

>>12776971 here
Changing my vote to:
>>12776967

Do we recognize anyone in here, or more importantly does it seem like anyone in here recognizes us? If not, let's throw the barkeep some copper, pull up a chair and start (slowly) nursing a beverage while we wait.

>>12776977
Dropped my name on this post. Changing my vote to this:
>>12776967

I was gonna sleep, but then I saw that DD was back.

FUCK YEAAAAAH DD!

>Wait outside the bar. We get to see him as he arrives, including which direction he comes from, and we get to greet him and enter together, as brothers would, rather than us going first and waiting impatiently with a half-empty drink.
The barkeep scowls as you turn promptly around and exit. You lean against the wooden front wall of the Broken Club, and just watch the people passing by on the cobblestone street. The cool, dry breeze makes it a relaxing endeavor.

Eventually you see the face you're looking for. He spots you a moment later and gives a nod.

>Do we recognize anyone in here, or more importantly does it seem like anyone in here recognizes us?
You seem to recall the quiet gamblers having been there last night as well, though you had more important things on your mind. The barkeeper is the same.

>>12777067
>The barkeep scowls
Dick!
I'm considering eating him dammit.
>Meh he saw me looking at him angrily and left! Damn kids and their preferring people who like them!

We walk over toward him, shake his hand, and conduct him toward a table inside.

"Good evening, Gaul! Let's head into the Broken Club and talk. We have much to discuss."

>>12777158
I support this chap! Much to discuss indeed!

>>12777147
This "eat everyone we even mildly dislike or think has offended us" thing is gonna have to go if we're joining team Broly Good.

>>12777171
Okay... Okay... old habits just die hard.

>>12777171
But all my MMOs and vidjagames have taught me that murder solves all my problems!

>>12777201
What?
You crazy- all my vidyagames have taught me that light conversation and constantly stealing everything that isn't bolted to the ground is the true path to success in life

>>12777215
There's also murdering all the bandits harassing the poor merchants, and murdering that one quest-giver who will inevitably betray you, and murdering the ultimate cosmic entity of entropy to save the world.

>We walk over toward him, shake his hand, and conduct him toward a table inside.
>"Good evening, Gaul! Let's head into the Broken Club and talk. We have much to discuss."

He pumps your hand. "Good to see you again, Jack. It's been a long day." The barkeep is still scowling as you walk in, until he gets told to bring six of the house ale out.

"All right then," Gaul says as you settle into a table. "You said we have something to discuss? From the sound of it, something beyond the normal friendly conversation?"

>>12777247
Wow alright. Well it's been a while so I'm not really sure what anon wanted to discuss with him.
I guessing telling him about the cult perhaps? Couldn't hurt considering how thats been going lately.

>>12777339
We wanna join his club. He's a badass and a bro. Basically I think we were going to ask if there was a job opening for the Left Arm of Heironeous.

>>12777247
"I need your help"

>>12777374
whoa wait, what?

>>12777374
I think this is good, though we might want to ease into it rather than coming out and saying it first thing.

>>12777247
"How do you like this life? I imagine traveling the way you do could easily land you in trouble with no one watching your back."
Ease into it. See if he wants help.

>I guessing telling him about the cult perhaps? Couldn't hurt considering how that's been going lately.
>"I need your help"
>Ease into it

>ask if there was a job opening for the Left Arm of Heironeous.
>"How do you like this life? I imagine traveling the way you do could easily land you in trouble with no one watching your back."
>Ease into it. See if he wants help.

Which will it be?

>>12777437
Oop nevermind, he already answered that in a previous thread.
Okay so how do we do this?
We can tell him about the cult.
We can tell him about our nature.
We can tell him we want to be his BFFF.
I imagine we'll end up telling him all of the above, but which first?

>>12777464
Both?
Maybe we can get him to help us with the cult, and use it as a jumping point for a more lasting partnership?

>>12777483
I would be okay with this, with one caveat: I'm assuming we'll be raping the cult together. How should we explain our powers and whatnot?

But are we sure we want to sic him on the cult? They've not been unuseful to us.

>>12777500
Eh, the whole Karessa deal kinda sealed their fate for me. If one chick can doubt our godliness enough to fight us, than the whole cult can as well. Besides, did we even know anyone else in that cult besides Karessa and the little girl and old man? Could we even get back in if we tried?

>>12777473
>>We can tell him about our nature.
>>We can tell him we want to be his BFFF.
THESE

Alright here's my plan. We tell him about the cult and offer to fight it with him. We don't use any out of the ordinary power during that time, just use our sword and badass stats.
Afterwards we tell him about our nature, and how we want to join him and become a force for good.
He'll trust us a bit more after the fight, and be more willing to accept our quirks.

I think we should tell him that we have some information that may prove helpful to him, but first we've got a story of our own. Tell him what we are, and how we're wanting to go Good, see if he can give us a hand with that.

Then mention the cult.

>>12777576
>>We don't use any out of the ordinary power during that time
This is /tg/ you're talking about. Good luck. When bodies start piling up, so will the calls to EAT HIM EAT HIM.

>>12777500
We're their enemy. We know about them, yet we're not actually the thing they're worshiping. If they figure that out before a large enough number of them are in the ground, we're screwed.

>>12777593
The ones we kill, I mean. Not Gaul.

Oh, ask why he's had a long day before anything else.

Also, remembering this from last thread: We should be a lot nicer to Claire. She's been good to us, when all we've done is bring her a whole lot of misery. Literally everything bad that has happened to her since we were born has been because of us.

>>12777593
Le sigh... True... I may even be one of them.
Alright fuck it, lets tell him about our Incredible Edible penchant for eating and how we want to join him.
I'm not sure if I want to ask for his help with the cult afterwards though. He may just think its an evil creatures ploy to trick a pally into murdering civies with him.
"I'm not a normal human." (lower voice) "I woke up a couple weeks ago in this city with no memories prior of my life, and I've found since then, that when I eat a creature, I can take on some of its characteristics. I don't know what I am. But I want to help you and your cause. You're the most noble man I've met in this town and right now you have the best cause to devote my skills to. Will you have me?"

>>12777651
>>"I'm not a normal human." (lower voice) "I woke up a couple weeks ago in this city with no memories prior of my life, and I've found since then, that when I eat a creature, I can take on some of its characteristics. I don't know what I am. But I want to help you and your cause. You're the most noble man I've met in this town and right now you have the best cause to devote my skills to. Will you have me?"
I'm good with this, or something like this.

>>12777651
"I am not a good person. I ate my best friends cat...
I wasn't even that hungry, it's just, kind of hard to control the compulsion. Like there are a thousand pestering voices in my head urging me to do it.
The urges have become less frequent though, and I think I'm starting to get a handle on my abilites, and appetite,"

>Oh, ask why he's had a long day before anything else.
"Spent all day looking into things, and while I don't have anything like a major lead, I've got enough troubling news to mull over. There's been people disappearing without leaving any clue why, and their families have no idea either."
He pauses a moment.
"Oddly enough, most of the ones who have vanished are pregnant women. I'm not sure what that's indicative of, but I know enough to tell that it's a very bad sign."

>Debate about what to tell seems to have been decided, going to write up that stuff now but will refresh as I go to see if people have additions.

i think revealing our nature is a good way of getting us hunted down by his church

>>12777698
If by "his church" you mean him? Then maybe. But he's not your average pally if previous threads have indicated anything, and worst comes to worst, we'll just pick up Claire and high tail it to the next town before morning.

>>12777694
kinda new to this thread line, are we responsible for those disaperances?

>>12777698
You mean by him then, he's the only one who gets divine assistance from Heironeous if I remember right, because Heironeous got all kinds of messed up in a god war.

>>12777721
I don't think we ever ate a pregnant woman.

>>12777721
we fit dissapearing people, but we haven't been targetting pregnant women at all.

>>12777721
Uhh we're responsible for some, but no pregnant women that I remember. That cult has been doing weird shit though. I'd bet our money on them being responsible.

>>12777694
> "Oddly enough, most of the ones who have vanished are pregnant women. I'm not sure what that's indicative of, but I know enough to tell that it's a very bad sign."

The cult. Sacrifice. That shit's right up their alley.

Please Please Please don't just DROP our true nature on him. I have an idea, give me a sec to type it up.

>>12777742
>>12777741

than imo, i would hold off tell him about our true nature, as we would be a person of intrest. but do tell him about the cult and as for help.

I think we should tell him a bit about the cult.

Do NOT mention what we are, not just yet. Just that we're in town investigating the cult. We can tell him more once we've actually started working together.

>Give me a moment.
Okay, pausing in the writeup for a bit. Gives me a moment to double check my notes too, some long-term stuff is coming into play around this timeframe.

>>12777651
>>12777679
Something along the lines of these two together, though I do think we should give him the information we have regarding the cult. What better way to get in good with him, and if we can get him to come to terms with our nature then we can devour the cultists he helps us kill.

Anyone else remember the previous threads? The cult cut twins in half and sewed them together. If we want to work with this guy, we need to come clean and give him this and all the other information on the cult we have.

>>12777837
Yea I remember the twins thing, gonna do a quick sweep of the threads and see if I find any more.

in the mean time,
listen intently to his story, ask how many pregnant women has disappeared, and if he has picked up any strange happenings and garhtering of people type things. after he answers, if he does, this might allow us to ease in to telling him about the cult or if we descide to we can brush it off as curiosity in his story.

ignore, if we are past this point.

I played the first sessions of DD but then i disappeared for a while.
Can anyone tell me what's going on? Even a really short summary would help

"Just four days ago, the cell in this city cut open a pair of twins and sewed each half to the other--a ritual this servant feels may have helped bring your current splinter of self here. We are ready to do more, and with you here our cells across the nation will be pushed to act!"
Nothing overt, but implications out the wazoo.

>>12777879
>LOOK RECAP (from last thread)
You woke up in the city of Thurminham without memories, equipment, or anything remarkable about you. Except, that is, a powerful need to eat--and the ability to acquire traits from the things you ate. Which you proceeded to do both of, in spades. This has attracted its share of notice from various parties, besides decimating the city's cat and bird populations.

You became acquainted with Claire, a fledgling wizard, when she pulled your unconscious self off the street--since then you've been split between eating her and befriending her, but have let her live so far. You started using her place as shelter and her courier service as cover; that changed when revenge-driven adventurers kidnapped her and set an ambush for you there. The trap nearly killed you and managed to burn down the entire building. You escaped, barely, and sought out your attackers on more even terms.

In the course of striking back at the adventurer party, you teamed up with a nameless bodysnatcher, able to take over the bodies of other beings by burrowing into their bloodstreams. He seemed to think the two of you had some sort of connection; most curiously, you could not acquire a trait from eating any body he had been in. You parted on good terms after the battle, him leaving in the body of a large human barbarian.

Claire lost a lot of her innocent outlook on life after the kidnapping and torture by the adventurer party, and seems to care a lot less about other people coming to harm. She's been helping you, most recently copying down maps and information from the library for you (she's making us an amulet now, needs some more cash for materials).

should be a 2 way street, he tells us what he knows and we tell him what we know, info is our friend.

>>12777904
You've also learned that the sewers are a decent, if dangerous, place to hunt; that there seems to be a war brewing with a lich-ruled nation to the north; and that the country is waging an almost guerrilla war with lycanthropes who have a presence in the nearby forest. Oh, and Morsel, the cat you bought, is still missing.

You were then found by Karreesa, a member of a cult attempting to bring a being they call the Devourer into the world. She thought that you are a splinter of this being, and had been generally obeying your orders because of it. She sent word out for a large chunk of the cult to come to Thurminham. The non-essential members should start arriving within a couple days--some of them voluntary meals for the taking. The crucial cult members are busily preparing another ritual to bring the Devourer to the current plane of existence.

Then you met Gaul, the Right Arm of Heironeous. You sought him with an ambush ready and prepared for a dangerous battle; you left him with a new hope for tomorrow. Rather than a fanatical religious butcher, he turned out to be a friendly and brotherly sort--as well as a cunning warrior. As your conversation grew in length, you began to wonder if perhaps, this sort of path might be one you could follow. You left with the promise to meet again tonight.

Arriving back at the cult safehouse, Karreesa accused you of being a fraud, and you killed her before she could warn more than the two cultists present. You now have her knowledge of the cult's organization--and know now that she paid someone in the underworld to spy on you. She was to meet him today at an outdoor restaurant, but you decided that it would be far better if you arrived for a personal date with the guy.

Then we let the guy escape after demanding information from him and letting him know that we were onto him. We switched the inn that we and Claire are staying in, and got some new clothes.

Remember that we don't want to lie to him outright.

>>12777904
>>12777933

thanks good anon(s)!

>>12777769 here

We tell Gaul we are a something of a petty con man who impersonates people to get at valuables or info that can be turned into cash. We were running a con, impersonating someone we thought was a smuggler for the thieves guild, but it turned out there was alot about the guy we were impersonating we didn't know.

We say that we found out he was some kind of bigshot in an underground religion ("You heard of something called the cult of the Devourer before?") and we got pulled into all kinds of sick rituals ("They took these two guys, twins... and they cut them in HALF! And then they sewed the halves together!") We completely blew our cover, we just didn't know enough, and that alone would probably be enough for the to try and hunt us down whereever we go. But there's something else, before we had to run we saw something really important. It was a list. It had names and places. Members of the cult and safehouses and storehouses, and something about a divine splinter ,there's no way they'll let us give up on us with what we know. So we need help, and we don't know who else to turn too.

Alright we've been at this for almost an hour, my votes for telling him. Nothing ventured, nothing gained and I suspect he'll not only be alright with our condition, but he'll be pleased that we were honest from the getgo.
We'll say the getgo is today, not that evening yesterday when we lied to him a whole bunch.

>>12778016
>petty con

Damn it I meant that to say "travelling con man" forgot to change that.

>>12778016
Hm. I would disagree simply for the fact that we're lying to our new BFFF. If we really want to foster a relationship with this man we need to show the same virtues as him.

>>12778016
That would be entirely brilliant if I didn't think his estimated sense motive score made it more risky than just coming clean.

>>12778067
coming clean would me telling him our nature. we have to make a cover story of some sort. though i dont neccisarly agree with a traveling con man idea.

>Listen intently to his story, ask how many pregnant women has disappeared, and if he has picked up any strange happenings and gathering of people type things. after he answers, if he does, this might allow us to ease in to telling him about the cult or if we decide to we can brush it off as curiosity in his story.
"I'm not sure of the actual number right now; I spent too much of the day interviewing the families of the vanished and finding out that they had little enough information to give. I'm trying to see if there's something from that information that I can use to get a lead, but so far I'm looking at a mostly blank slate. I tend to do most of my best thinking with a light ale in hand, and it seemed pointless to talk to more people at this hour when the others had nothing useful to tell me."

>Okay, quick vote so we can get the ball rolling. Con man story or actual story?

>>12778064
Not immediately we don't. I don't know if you were here a few threads ago, but he said redeeming people who are "on the edge" so to speak is part of what he tries to do as the Arm.

>>12778064
I think I mixed enough truth in with the lies for u to get by.

>>12778103
Truth. Con man story was well written though, props to that anon.

>>12778115
>u
us I meant. Damn I can't type today.

>>12778103
Actual story woo!

>>12778020
agree lets tell him of the cult, say we are a relic hunter that looks for treasures under cities, and in our wonderings we've come across a cult and are now in over our heads. need help from him.

>>12778103
Actual story. I'd like to be honest with more than just Claire, he's quite likely to see through a bluff, and at this point I'd be willing to try fighting it out in order to move the plot forward.

>>12778103
Actually, I don't even think we need to claim to be a con man, just say that we're in town investigating the cult because they're BAD NEWS for everyone. Drive home the point by describing what they did with the twins.

>>12778103
con man story

>>12778103
Con

Nothing good will come of telling him we are a murdering inhuman monster who eats people at this time.

>>12778020
For the love of all that is fun, this. Lying to this guy is very very likely to screw any chances we have of allying with him, and we are NOT what he's here for. His God has led him here, apparently, to deal with the cult of the Devourer. If we explain what we are, what we know and express a sincere desire to work with him on destroying the cult, we have a good chance to become the garbage disposal that has the privilege of devouring powerful and evil things while having a couple of strong and faithful allies having our back. Ones we don't have to worry about invading our bodies.

One other thing -- let's be clear here. There's no way we can keep our nature from him in the long term, and travel with him. We will devour, it is our nature.

Another vote for con man

>>12778103
Actual story and push that what we are is not who we are.

As long as we don't tell him we are not human, I'm okay with whatever.

>>12778103

truth

>>12778151
I don't think we should keep out true nature from him long term.

Just don't lay it on him RIGHT NOW before he has gotten to know us better.

votan for true story

>>12778151
while i agree in theory...

this
>>12778145

>>12778016
seconding this

>>12778151
How do you convince Gaul we have no connection with the cult?

And if we manage to sever our tie with the cult, we could pin the disappearing of pregnant on the ult
women on hte

>>12778137

I think we should do this. It tells him enough to get him started against the cult, contains no lies, and doesn't paint us in a bad light.

Truth, and introduce it slowly. We lie to him once and he'll think us always a liar.

>>12778226
Good point

Votes recount, please?

>>12778212
prego women have nothing to do with us. most likly the cult.


tie in his knowlage of the dissapances with the cult. clear us of the people we have eaten.

TRUE STORY

Actual story.

Enough of the lies, plz
Whole true story

Holy shit that's a lot of votes. Cutting voting off here while I count them.

>>12778137
This has my vote. We don't have to tell him what we are right away, but at the same time we shouldn't claim to be something he might find objectionable if we have a good alternative. Plus, this avoids any potential backpedaling.

>>12778212
he disappearing of pregnant women is either the cult or something else. We have never eaten a pregnant woman. In fact I believe we have only eaten three or four women in our entire existance,

Gaul raises an eyebrow. "You've got a way with kids. Really though, it didn't bother me. You get used to it. People might thank you for a couple days, and it's all the free drink you want--you can get some REALLY nice vintage that way, let me tell you--but after that they start getting nervous, and hope you'll move on. Sheep don't really like a sheepdog--he reminds them that there are wolves out there. And wolves are scary.

"Which is fine, really. It's not like I'm sticking around anyways, there's always that pull. The WHERE. I can fight it of course, but it's always there, that slight nagging guiding me to the next wolf."

>"So if you're hunting the worst of the wolves, what do you do when you run into the rest of the wolves? Kill them as opportunity presents itself, without seeking them out? Let them run free? Use them to help kill that worst wolf when possible?"
"Depends entirely on the circumstance, and I'm sorry to not be more specific. Maybe I can explain, though. There's only three real guiding rules that Heironeous gave me--the rest I've had to make up on my own. Which is a pain, though I suppose it keeps me flexible. Anyways, these three rules are really simple: Protect the Innocent. Redeem the Willing. Smite the Wicked."

con't...

Man how many real, non-samefags are actually in this thread? That's way too many replies.

"There's a lot of Willing folks out there, who just need a hand up to get on their feet. Sometimes a guy might be headed down the path of the wolf, but before he's too far gone he can be brought back into the fold--or even, turn into a sheepdog himself. Some of those wolves have got a real taste for blood--they like seeing people suffer, they don't have the slightest compunction about killing one of their own--and there's not a thing you can do for them but make sure they don't hurt anyone else. Figuring out who's who is part of what makes this business so damn hard."

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/11823862/

Gaul is not going to scream and flee when we tell him our true nature. Part of what he does is bringing redemption to those who can be redeemed, and turn wolves into sheepdogs. We don't necessarily need to tell him we've eaten people, but if we want to associate with him long term, he needs to know, and the sooner the better, because we Hunger.

dammit, keeps dropping my name

those last two posts quoting Gaul were me

if we go down this path, he will want us to stop eating people. are we willing a prepared to do this?

>>12778326
God damnit it's too fast! He won't have the time to process all the info and decide if we're really someone he wants to trust. The cult is gearing up for the big ritual, we need to move fast. This is just going to cause delays.

Also I think Claire might have been eaten by the bodysnatcher and I'd like Gaul to use paladin powers to make sure ASAP.

>>12778359
I doubt that. Eating live, good people yes, but there will always be plenty of evil doers that I don't think Gaul will give two shits about.

>>12778359
He'll want us to stop eating INNOCENT people, and it's not like averages bystanders have a whole lot that interests us anymore. Plus he's all about smiting the wicked, so I think he'd be okay with us OMNOMing them at least. Maybe.

>>12778369
WAAAHHHHHH?!
Oh god thats horrifyingly possible

>>12778359
>>12778378
We can still eat dangerous animals and beasts though, right?

>>12778378
i think he will, desecrating a dead body can be looked on as a bad/"evil" act, weather or not the person we are eating is dead/alive good/evil. i think he would want us to stop cold turkey.

Typing reply, taking longer than I expected, but I haven't abandoned thread or anything.

>>12778403
I'm willing to risk it. If he really wants to make us stop, we'll just reevaluate the relationship.

>>12778369
If the bodysnatcher did that I WILL KILL HIM TO DEATH

>>12778431

Does the snaher knows about Claire at all?

>>12778456
Of course, he was the one who helped us rescue her from the adventurers.

Damn. I think my con story lost by one lousy vote.

while we wait anyone care to summerize the body stantcher guy?

>>12778461
The con part was arguably unnecessary, we could have just told him that we were investigating the cult and left it at that, though unfortunately that option didn't get posted soon enough to actually get serious consideration.

>>12778477
Hang on, I'll find you the archive he is prominent in.

>>12778477
The was a guy. He steals bodies. He helped us rescue Claire from a group of adventurers. In exchange he snatched the body of the group's bigass barbarian. Haven't seen him since.

He's definitely the "shard of the Devourer" that the cult is looking for and mistook us for.

for all we know the body snatcher is the one taking the preggos but if we are able to ally with the pally short term having him check Claire out would be a good idea, then we could work on taking down the cult leadership. maybe do some omnoming on them

>>12778477
Very basic summary: He's incorporeal, needs a host to live. A body he's in gradually dies. We've seen him jump from one body to another. He controls the body completing. Still not sure what side he's on, but he's helped us and he's murdered guards.

>>12778504
> for all we know the body snatcher is the one taking the preggos

No. That's not his MO. He goes for strong, fit bodies to jump in to. The cult is taking pregnant women for their rituals and sacrifices.

You glance at the other people in the bar and make sure they're not listening in. "I have some information you may find useful," you start. Gaul raises an eyebrow. You continue, being careful about what you say. You don't want to lie, but easing into things seems wise.

"A few days ago, there was a mixup about my identity, and I got... 'introduced' to a group called the Cult of the Devourer. Heard of them at all?" Gaul nods slowly. "They're not the sort of people I'm interested in calling friends. But I took that as an opportunity to do some poking into what they're up to. Which is: a lot of sick things. I heard about some ritual of theirs where they took a pair of twins, cut them in half, and sewed them back together. Not nice people."

"Unfortunately, I didn't know enough to keep up the charade, and I had to run before I could find out more about their higher-ups. The one who figured me out is dead, but there's at least a couple others who know I'm not legit. Odds are that the cult will be after me, sooner or later. After all, I committed a list to memory of low-level members, safehouse and storehouse locations, the like. And unless I'm mistaken, I also know their goal: to bring a being called the Devourer into the world."

>cont.

>>12778477
Here are the threads he was in. The second shows him in combat somewhat.

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/10141231/#10149544
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/10150655/

rolled 91 = 91

>>12778517
>pair of twins, cut them in half, and sewed them back together.

as before TempDM I offer the pertinent image for evoking an appropriate emotional response in the other players

he's herad of them, hmmmmmm

>>12778570
>tiefling
>sown up
wat.

rolled 85 = 85

>>12778641
I'm not going to post it if TempDM does not want me to, I respect him that much.

>cont

Gaul stays silent a moment, absorbing what you've told him.
"That certainly merits investigation. But why wait to tell me? No, I see why. Nevermind."

"You've heard of this group before, though?" you prompt.

"Yes. Not a great deal about them, mind you. What I learned then, in another town, made them seem far less of a problem. I'd conjecture from what you told me that they may have Thurmingham as their cult's primary location. A pity you weren't able to find out about their leadership. Cut off the head, as the saying goes... Still, I may be able to accomplish much with this information, particularly if you can name members and locations to look into. Thank you."

He holds his gaze a moment. "There's something else you wanted to tell me, isn't there?"

>What now?

>as before TempDM I offer the pertinent image for evoking an appropriate emotional response in the other players

Eh, your call. It's in the archived threads already though.

>>12778687

>Give what information we have
>figure out plan to keep Claire out of it
>Offer help
>profit

he knows somethings amis.... bad omens lie ahead.

tell him of the meeting between the leader we killed and the spy tonight as we speak

>>12778687
Tell Gaul about the power, sans the human-eating part

why didn't we tell him about our abilities?
Do that

>>12778734
Possibly the entire thread, what with the new janitor and all.

>>12778687
> He holds his gaze a moment. "There's something else you wanted to tell me, isn't there?"

Fuck.

We need to start giving him names and places. Give him something to chew on for a little while.

Or, we can tell him that we have a vested interest in taking them down, that some people we care about are currently in danger because of the cult, and that we would like to help him.

Or both.

>>12778687
Well. Time to start the argument all over again. I'd say for the time being roll with it and say "Yes. But it's not critically important at the moment. Maybe when this is over and we've taken care of the cult I'll be comfortable enough to explain."

>>12778746
Because I think we've given him a lot of information to process already. No need to tell him just yet, we can always do so later, after we've worked together a little bit longer.

>>12778738
This is good.

>>12778747
This is not.

>>12778749
Both.
>thisisrelevanttomyinterest.jpg

I'd like to ask him if he knows anything about a creature that can steal bodies

rolled 79 = 79

>>12778687
>"There's something else you wanted to tell me, isn't there?"

yes, there is, but not at this time.
I'll help you for now, but I want to see you operate before I tell it to you

{proceed to name names, and locate locations}

>>12778749
Both

I vote we do both of these:
>>12778749
>>12778738

> tell him of the meeting between the leader we killed and the spy tonight as we speak
> start giving him names and places
> tell him that we have a vested interest in taking them down, that some people we care about are currently in danger because of the cult, and that we would like to help him

All of these are good.

tell him of the cult theaking we where key to awakining the devoeror being. but we want no part of that, and what to stop them at all costs. offer him the spy meeting that was supposed to go down tonight.

if he asks why the cult thought us key, tell him we have no idea, and dont want to find out.

hold on what the fuck are you guys doing? we need to keep tricks up our sleeves, instead of devoting ourselves to some lackey of a crippled god, folding our hand and just saying "Good Game"? While I agree it would be best to stay on fair relations with Gaul I find it more pressing not to disclose our entire information. If you really want give him one name or one location, but don't give him all of it. Thats just throwing away a perfectly valid opportunity to stay on top of him. And what if we need to use it as a bargaining device, hm?

>>12778806
This gets way to close to actually lying, and that opens us up to all kinds of problems (especially considering he's a Paladin).

We withhold that for now, we can tell him another time.

>>12778848
agreed

>>12778848
We want to help him because if you haven't noticed the cult is a bunch of crazy motherfuckers, they've been stalking us, and sooner or later they're all going to wise up.

We need to make sure that by the time that happens enough of them are either in the ground or in our belly that we can beat them.

Whenever we end up tell Gaul about what we are, mention how we want to steer more towards using our powers for good.
Mention how when we were born we didn't realize what we were doing and it felt as if we slowly eating ourself from the inside out.
Mention Claire, and regret for all the bad things that have happened to her because of us. Mention how we'd like to atone to her in someway.

Obviously we don't want to tell him this right away though. Information is a powerful tool, and secrecy is an amazing defense.
We'll wait until there's mutual trust between the both of us, if possible.

We're being awesome is what we're doing. We've thought this out.

>>12778894
Also good.

"Yeah, there is. I want to help."

Gaul takes a long sip of ale. "You're sure about that? Don't think I'm being dismissive, but this is dangerous work, and people get hurt. That's not a possibility. That's a fact." Gaul states. "I'm not going to turn you away if you've put some thought into it, but if you've got family depending on you this isn't a good idea. If you haven't thought about what life could be like, unable to walk or unable to see, and accept that as something that could happen, this isn't a good idea. I'll take your help and gladly, but I won't do it if you're not aware of the danger."

"I've got a vested interest in taking down this cult. Some people that I care about may be in danger now because of possible retribution meant for me," you respond. "Besides, I have names and places, and there was a meeting today--"

Gaul raises his hand. "In due time. Keep in mind that there's something happening in this city so black with evil that I can taste it. It may be the cult. It may not be. Either way, my priority is that evil. Not that the cult doesn't seem like a very valid candidate."

"Even if it's not them, I'm interested in helping."

Gaul grins. "There's something I haven't heard in a while."

>What now? or Cont., depending on which you want.

>>12778943
Cont. plox.
BFFF status: impending

>>12778943
"I'm not going to claim I'm being wholly selfless here, I'll admit. I'm in a bad situation in more than one way, really want to change it, and helping you out is frankly the best exit strategy I see. Which is pretty sad, all things considered."

>>12778975
Oh! I like this. This segues nicely into us telling him the bare-bones of what we are.

That way, us eating evil blokes is no problem when we're fighting.

>>12778990
he's not going to let us do that no matter what we tell him. we are that evil he is looking for.

>>12779039
Remember that bit about salvation?
We could use that.

>>12779039
I somehow doubt that we trump the spiritual essence of a devourer god and his cult of wakos who are willing to cut two people in half and sew those halves together.

>>12779039
No, we are the hero that Thurmingham needs.

>>12779053
[ ]salvation
[ ]continue eating people

choose one

>>12778974
by any chance do you have the "deal with it" version of that?

>>12779039
We're not actually evil. I believe the general consensus is that we typically operate at Neutral Hungry. Seriously though, we're more True Neutral. We may have evil tendencies, but we have just as many good ones.

>>12779039
I doubt that. It's much more likely that the cult and the body snatcher are the evil he's talking about.

Besides, he's a Paladin. If we were the evil he was talking about he'd be able to pick up on it pretty quickly.

>>12779069
I maintain that we don't know what the paladins views are until we ask him. So I want both and I'll pick both until the paladin tells me he would desire differently.

>>12779039
Actually he could be looking for the bodysnatcher, or for that matter he could be looking for some hitherto undiscovered monster since this town is fucking lousy with us.

>>12779069
Actually, some of our best stuff has come from animals. Like our speed and stealth. Plus, there are some really awesome monsters out there that I'm pretty sure we can OM NOM.

And even then, he might actually be able to deal with us OM NOMing baddies. Just no innocent people.

>>12779069
>Eat Evil humanoids, Animals, Monsters only
>Get on good side with most
>profit

i dont see long term partnership with this guy is in our best intrests. this bromance with this pally needs to stop least our power stagnate and our hunger grows.

in the short term he might be able to andvance out goals, cont plz

>cont

"I'm not going to claim I'm being wholly selfless here, I'll admit. I'm in a bad situation in more than one way, really want to change it, and helping you out is frankly the best exit strategy I see. Which is pretty sad, all things considered."

"Lay it out for me," Gaul says with a sweep of the hand. "What are we talking? Likely as not, I've heard something worse, and something stranger."

>Cont but I deleted a chunk by mistake, have this while it gets retyped.

so we are telling him our nature.. :/

>>12779133
It's not just his side we'll be on. We'll be legit. Then we can try to spin things--"JACK. Heroic savior of the masses, protecting us from the predators in the dark with teeth of his own!"

>>12779170
Hell yes.

>>12779170

Hey TempDM, I've got half a request and half a bit of food for thought.

I realized recently that the PC here, jack, has no sense of humor whatsoever. This led me to notice that he doesn't seem to have much of a personality either. I suspect this is due to the multiple-players, one character thing we have going, and as such can't really be messed with, not that I want it to be since it's rather fun.

My point is, does Jack come off as someone with some kind of multiple-personality disorder, and if so are you going to sweep it under the rug or play it up?

>>12779212
i view it as all the personalities he has eating influencing his thoughts

Holy shit, DD is back.

Oh man, I finally get to participate in one of these. Awaiting TempDM with mashed F5 key.

What. The. Fuck.

When did the moralfags take over this quest?

Damn it, you idiots ruin everything.

>>12779295
What can I say dude, I was originally one of the few for eating the paladin outright, but the others anons swayed me with promises of awesome broitude.

>>12779295
What's going to change?
You act like TempDM has already decided to let us make a seamless transition into flowers and sunshine with no regrets, but he's shown repeatedly that he likes to create consequences for our actions, "good" or "bad" aside.

Paladin may attack, or he may accept us, he may ask/demand that we do some sort of penance, he may play bro and then stab us when vulnerable in order to get around our strengths, ect.
The issue is neither decided nor clear-cut.

>>12779295
This is the tyranny of majority.
>dealwithit.jpg

>>12779295
WAY back when we decided on getting the waifu and I left.
Leaving again now.

>>12779295
>>12779295
>>12779295
>>12779295
this too many white knights

the pc doesnt give a fuck about anyone only more power and feeding his hunger, white knights are working against those goals

>>12779351
Claire is not a waifu, she's an ally

Hey tempDM, if someone reads our mind, would theirs become full of fuck as well?

>Cont

You check again that the other people in the bar aren't listening. "I woke up a couple weeks ago in this city with no prior memories. I don't know what I am, or where I came from. But I found since then, that when I eat a creature, I can become like it in a way. And... I have to eat--a LOT. Initially, I ate without knowing that sometimes what I was doing was wrong. Even once I realized it, I didn't quite want to believe it, because that would mean I'd damned myself before I even knew better. I want to find some kind of atonement. I think this may be the way."

"Well," Gaul says, looking flummoxed for the first time since you've met him. "Well. I've heard worse. That may take the prize for strangest story, though."

He pulls out his sword.

>Cont

>Cont

"I can't promise this will bring atonement. Or that you'll know if it does," he says, laying it on the table.

"I've carried a sword for most of my life, Jack, but it didn't use to be this one. I'm from the badlands to the east, and I was born into one of the bands of savage folk that make it their home. They used to know me for the seething fury I'd work myself into during a raid. I've stolen. Pillaged. Murdered good people with a smile on my face. It's who I was. It's not who I am. There's a reason I believe so strongly in redeeming the willing. I used to be one."

"If you're looking for a chance to turn yourself around, Jack, here it is. Don't waste it."

>What now?

>>12779389
oh shi-

>>12779389
told ya so

hope he kills all the white knights

>>12779389
>>12779399
you cheesy motherfucker, you scared the shit out of me.

>>12779399
YESSS.

Offer assistance.

>>12779399
Well that turned out better than expected.

>>12779399

>The issue is neither decided nor clear-cut.
No matter what you do, this is always the truth. The biggest "aw fuck" moment yet is barreling down the pike. :D

>My point is, does Jack come off as someone with some kind of multiple-personality disorder, and if so are you going to sweep it under the rug or play it up?
I can't give away that kind of surprise just yet.

>Hey TempDM, if someone reads our mind, would theirs become full of fuck as well?
Probably.

>hope he kills all the white knights
Shit man, I can't reach through the computer.

>>12779399
Sweet.

Alright, so no more OM NOMing innocent people.

Though it looks like animals, monsters, and baddies are still on the menu.

>>12779399
Fuck year.
"Gaul I'd be honored to fight by your side."

>>12779455

Precisely my thought.

>>12779351
>>12779295
im with these guys

>>12779399
holy fuck, you had me worried he'd smite us on the spot for a second.

PLEDGE BRODOM TO HIM!

So when do we get our paladin powers?

Do we get to be called the Left Arm yet?

Should we even ask him this?

>>12779476
Neat.

>>12779486
One step at a time. We're still probably TN/NE right now, we have to go out and earn that redemption.

>>12779486
lets just start out as a willing helper wanting to be redeemed for now and work our way up to left arm along the way.

>>12779399
"I accept."

>>12779399

Accept, say something to the effect of "Thank you, I won't."

>>12779525
Awwww I was really hoping it would be fighter levels! eh oh well, close but no cigar.

rolled 46 = 46

>>12779399
just one question.

can I eat all the bad guys I kill?
this is important, and not in any way a joke.

>>12779452
>No matter what you do, this is always the truth. The biggest "aw fuck" moment yet is barreling down the pike. :D

BRING IT BITCH

>>12779295
>>12779351
>>12779476
Sorry bros. I go with the majority and try to do things on my end to make the quest enjoyable, plus determine how the sandbox world would accurately be influenced by your choices. I'm not going to railroad /tg/ so that either side of a vote is happy. Thanks for giving this quest a shot.

(On a somewhat related note Gaul has had those initial barbarian levels in his statblock for fucking months now with only me knowing.)

>>12779542
Don't be so sure you're wrong.

Also sorry about my post getting deleted, my internet decided to be dumb on me and I don't even know. It's back now though.

>>12779548
Yes, because the paladin will let you eat human beings
You're an idiot

Easymodo: being a mindless killing machine, eating whoever we want, not giving fucks
Knightmaremodo: Trying to combat the natural urges, coming to terms with ourselves as a person, and creating long term relationships

>>12779580
From his general disposition I think he cares more about the living innocent than the deceased fellows we're going to be killing. Even if he does have a problem with it, we can always argue ethics with him.

While I'm still pissed I'd just like to take a moment and say, I hate you guys so much. You just couldn't take it slow. You wouldn't wait so we could see what working with the paladin would really be like before we committed to anything fully. And, of course, like the morons you are, you just had to reveal more of our secrets than was anyway necessary. What a waste of potential.

I hate you all so much.

>>12779641 thinks we can't eat the paladin later if we really feel like it.

>>12779639
argue ethics with a paladin

NOPE.avi


you guys most be functionally retarded

>>12779641
I'm sorry that I've helped to make the game less fun for you, but I still disagree. Good luck in the future here or otherwise.

>>12779641
I'm not the happiest about that part either. Given the nature of quests-able to die at a moment's notice, or have weeks between updates-it is hardly surprising that /tg/ is unable to be patient. I just accept it and try to make us the most awesome impatient dude around.

Hell originally we were split on whether we should hear the pally out or just immediately attack and eat him.

>>12779668
Maybe not the CLEAVE AND SMITE ones, but this dude is pretty cool about things.

I wonder, have any of you stopped to consider that the bodysnatcher may have already gotten to the paladin?

>>12779668
Are you trolling?

He's been reasonable and already gave us a chance while knowing what we are, ergo he isn't quite a stereotypical paladin with a stick up his ass.

>>12779689
At this point the body snatcher could be ANYONE. Because he's a fucking body snatcher.

rolled 15 = 15

>>12779689
briefly yes, but I dismissed the notion.

this means that TempDM is going to fuck us royally now though.

>>12779708
mfw the body snatcher is US

>>12779689
nope, and that would be hilarious.

>>12779580

It's just meat - and he only has three real rules.

Anything evil that's killed in pursuit of justice is fair game. After all - he wouldn't care if you ate a wolf.

It's not desecration if it's already damned.

WAIT!
QUICK! ROLL SENSE MOTIVE!
DO WE BELIEVE THE PALADIN'S BACKSTORY?

>"I won't. It'll be an honor to fight alongside you."
"Likewise. Let's have a few more drinks and do a bit of planning."

On that note I need to wrap up. I may, may be able to run same time tomorrow. (But every time I've thought I could recently life likes to butt in and say no.)

YOU ARE ASKING TO BE REDEEMED, EATING DEAD BODIES IN FRONT OF A PALADIN IS NOT A SIGN OF REDEMTION

>I wonder, have any of you stopped to consider that the bodysnatcher may have already gotten to the paladin?
Pic related.

>WAIT!
>QUICK! ROLL SENSE MOTIVE!
>DO WE BELIEVE THE PALADIN'S BACKSTORY?
Too late!

>>12779775
Eating dead people isn't the issue, it's eating indiscriminately that's the problem.

>>12779791
yes it is.

>>12779806
hey, buddy, how long have you been following this quest?

>>12779753
1a) He said he was a barbarian before
1b) The bodysnatcher was in a barbarian body last time we saw him
2a) He said it was a different sword he wielded as a barbarian
2b) Bodysnatcher's barbarian had a greatsword, Gaul has a longsword

GAUL COULD HAVE TOLD THE COMPLETE TRUTH AND STILL BE THE PALADIN

>>12779775
Hey, if they were a bunch of evil bastards in life like the cult, why not? We could put them to better use.

>>12779775

Druids can Speak With Animals.

Animals are sentient in setting.

They can also Speak With Plants.

Plants are sentient in setting.

Paladins, most likely are aware of this, as is the rest of the world - if only because of medieval understanding of things.

Dead is dead. He knows that when he has a steak - that that is a sentient creature he could ask a Druid to have helped him speak with.

If he has any pretension to moral strength, then eating the bodies of the dead is not something he can take umbrage with. The only objection he can raise is to unlawful, unjust murder.

If eating a corpse gives you the power to prevent others from becoming corpses - what would an actual Paladin do? There's nothing in their code against it. Every body we eat helps "justice".

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Doppleganger

Thread is archived, voting is open.

>>12779828
>GAUL COULD HAVE TOLD THE COMPLETE TRUTH AND STILL BE THE PALADIN

You mean still be the bodysnatcher.

>>12779863

But despite being wrong - he's still correct!

Madness!

He said that he has 3 rules.

1. PROTECT THE INNOCENT
2. REDEEM THE WILLING
3. SMITE THE WICKED
>4. DON'T EAT DEAD BODIES

Oh wait, number 4 isn't on the list. He implied everything else that promoted the 3 rules, even lying, is acceptable in the right circumstance (he lied to a devil in order to kill it).

A paladin must be of lawful good alignment and loses all class abilities if she ever willingly commits an evil act.

Additionally, a paladin’s code requires that she respect legitimate authority, act with honor (not lying, not cheating, not using poison, and so forth), help those in need (provided they do not use the help for evil or chaotic ends), and punish those who harm or threaten innocents.

While she may adventure with characters of any good or neutral alignment, a paladin will never knowingly associate with evil characters, nor will she continue an association with someone who consistently offends her code. A paladin may accept only henchmen, followers, or cohorts who are lawful good.


eating dead bodies is a evil act. eating the bodies of your fallen foes is not honorable

the paladin will not let you eat dead bodies.

>>12779908
>>eating dead bodies is a evil act

Says who? I eat steaks all the time, fellow humans not so much. Jack isn't a human though.

REANIMATING dead bodies is evil, but we're not doing that.

>>12779908
Gaul is already playing fast and loose with the paladin code.

>>12779908
Dude we're playing 3.5 not pathfinder.
>eating dead bodies is a evil act
shit i didn't realize all paladins were vegans.
>derp herp herpidy derp!

>eating dead bodies is a evil act.

according to, hmm, you alone. Gold dragons certainly eat humanoids (evil ones, but still), while good adventures certainly eat dragonsteak. You are even less like a human than a dragon is, so its okay.

>>12779908
OK.
Gaul isn't a paladin, he's just a mildly religious fighter with a shitty evil-detector.

>>12779922
eating a dead cow =/= eating a dead human

not the same moral equivalency

>thortil religion

>>12779908

Ah, so, tell us exactly where eating a dead body is defined as evil?

You are aware that in some cultures it is a high honour? DnD is not a game that cares for cultural relativism, true - but there are races that are not evil and eat their dead.

The most respectful thing we can do to our enemy is to eat them and make their essence a part of us rather than leave their body to rot. How is that not honourable?

>>12779908
> eating dead bodies is a evil act

Says what? If they're already dead, it's not like we're hurting anyone.

> eating the bodies of your fallen foes is not honorable

Gaul doesn't really treat his foes with honor anyway.

>>12779908
That section of the PHB has been interpreted differently even in official published settings, where paladins have been given more or less leeway. There's no reason to say in this setting that paladin's can't lie to devils.

Hell, the Detect Evil part of the paladin seems to have gotten a rework in this setting too.

>>12779943
>not the same moral equivalency
Why?
Go read some Singer before you talk about morals equivalency with animals.

>>12779943
If they're already dead, it doesn't really matter. The difference between a human and a cow is in what they're capable of doing, feeling, thinking, etc. when alive. Once you're dead, you can't feel, or think, or do.

>>12779954
veganhippyfag detected

>>12779943

Where are the scales then, that can weigh lives such that you can perfectly know the moral weight of a thing?

They do not exist, and if they had our world would be a "better" and more horrible place for it.

You seem to suffer from an excess of moralic acid. It's worn away your reason.

ITT: One guy professes stupid ideas after joining the quest for one session. Everyone calls him an idiot.

Rather than argue with lurker, who admitted to being pissed off and is likely just trolling us right now, I think we should be more worried about this:

>>12779828

moralfags shiting up a thread and quest. nothing new here

>>12779972

I like your summary. It's nice to have an old fashioned shoeing once in a while.

>>12779987
I concur. I'm going to be slightly put off if our new friend is actually our old friend.

Be Honourable (especially in Combat)
You must engage the enemy in an honourable fashion.

how exactly is eating dead bodies honourable???

the honourable thing to do would be giving them a propur burial

>>12779988
/tg/ wants hardmode. Being an animal gives us no character development and is easymode to the max.

>>12779943

A live cow is worth less than a live human because the cow has a significantly lower ability to produce utility (pleasure, happiness, the fulfillment of desire/preference, etc.). However, once they're both dead, this difference is no longer in play.

Also, if eating the human would generate greater utility, then it is the moral action. They're already dead, so it's not like we're inflicting pain (generating negative utility) by eating them, and we can use what we gain to help people (generating positive utility).

>>12780010
Who gives a shit, this paladin doesn't care about honor.
See: previous threads.
>you guys are idiots that paladin is going to hold us to a higher moral code than the one he portrays
yeah i'm super worried about that.

>>12779987
I'll remind them about it next thread. We need to get back to where we were hiding Claire and look for either her burned out remains or the trail of her kidnappers.

I remember the last thread, I said to watch for tails when we moved her but we rolled abysmally and "didn't see anyone". Which means we were totally followed by at least one of our enemies.

>>12779987

Cautious? Yes.
Worried? No, all things come as they may, to become as we are.

I think there is a Detect Possessing Entity spell somewhere... it may be possible to find it. Detect Alignment should work anyway.

We should tell him about the Bodysnatcher as well - it's not an important secret and he should be aware of the threat.

>>12780021
then he is not a paladin and loses class abilities

SPOILER ALERT!
The bodysnatcher we met is the fragment of the devourer that the cult was dead-set on bringing into the world.
CALLING IT NOW!

>>12780025
>>We need to get back to where we were hiding Claire and look for either her burned out remains or the trail of her kidnappers.

Um, what.

>>12780018
I agree with this anon, especially since utilitarianism seems to be how D&D defines "good."

>>12780032

I meant, after establishing that he is himself.

>>12780034
Or maybe it's because "honor" is an extremely vague term and is probably defined by his deity, who is reasonable enough to allow for some shenanigans.

>>12780052
Easily done.

"Are you yourself?"

>>12780034
You should tell that to him. Or the DM. I'm sorry we're having too much fun over here and forgot about your arbitrary rules, we'll try and remember next time we feel like being jackasses.

>>12780036
This is actually what a lot of people have been thinking. It's looking pretty likely considering he was "born" at around the right time.

>>12780013
No, /tg/ doesn't, We just have a higher number of short sighted idiots in the thread tonight. People who think they can trust this guy when we have no reason to think we can. Not even a single sense motive check. He could have been lying about the pregnant women you know. For some reason some of us seem to believe TempDM won't fucking kill us if we just rush through things into a trap.

>>12780056
Yeah, all this talk about honor, but he's never mentioned seppuku if he fails in a mission.

OH WAIT. Honor is a product of a culture (and usually it seems to be promoted by the people in power as a way to help them stay in power). Different cultures find different things honorable.

>>12780042
The cult definitely followed us to where we're currently hiding her. We should check on her, make sure she's okay.

Also, we should do something that we've been neglecting for a while now: THANK HER. Seriously, she's helping us even though we've done nothing but bring her misery.

>>12780075
We've been debating, during and after threads, whether we should team up with Gaul. For several threads, now. General consensus when you add everyone together is a hesitant yes.

>>12780018

Dammit, why did you have to tell him the answer?

I wanted to see his fumbled and probably-dualism-related-somehow response to >>12779971

Well, nevermind - at least there are likeminded amongst us.

>>12780043

Hell no - DnD is insane about alignment, contradicting itself within the same paragraph. Then there'e the Book of Vile Darkness (sticks and stones may break my bones, but whips and chains excite me) and the Book of Exalted Good (Furries, Fundamentalism and Fallacies, oh my!) both of which are terrible - though with some excellently powerful spells and items.

I like Kytons as well.

Code of Conduct for Paladins of Heironeous

Codex of Honor
A righteous warrior always observes the rules of honorable warfare. The tenets of honor and chivalry are to be upheld even in the face of enemies that do not grant the same respects.

The ends do not justify the means.

Lethal force is not always the best option for dealing with evil.

Be careful of who one associates with, the subtle influence of less righteous companions has been the downfall of many a noble warrior. A righteous warrior never associates with those he knows to be of questionable character

>>12780080
Yeah no kidding. Maybe get her a gift too. (What with our 43 copper and all. Maybe loot a cult storehouse and give her something nifty from there?)

>>12780108
WITH THE MONEY WE GET from there, I mean.

>>12780097

If he never associates with those his lesser - how can he ever redeem someone?

Besides, in all likelihood Heironeus has become far more flexible - he's nearly dead after all.

>>12780086
Yes, but the general hesitant consensus in past threads also said we should take it slow. What just happened was not slow. Also the vote between tell all and con man story was clearly full of samefags on both sides.

>>Hell no - DnD is insane about alignment, contradicting itself within the same paragraph. Then there'e the Book of Vile Darkness (sticks and stones may break my bones, but whips and chains excite me) and the Book of Exalted Good (Furries, Fundamentalism and Fallacies, oh my!) both of which are terrible - though with some excellently powerful spells and items.
Pic related.

>>I like Kytons as well.
Fuck yes, those guys are awesome.

>>12780108
>>12780116

Once we check up on Claire, we need to track down Morsel. Hopefully he survived the fire.

>>12780141
We're caring about this cat after a week of not giving a fuck?

Also we need to get more cash for Claire to make us that pendant.

>>12780156
I don't know, I guess I dislike the idea of us being the reason she lost not one but TWO cats. Considering we ate her first one.

>>12780156
But you're right, we need to get her a lot more cash.

>>12780135

For those who don't know, Kytons are fantastic monsters - I can't remember if their stats are up to par, but that's no issue - the modular enhancements makes them really versatile.

Think the Xenomorph, then make it a Demon which can possess modular organs, the best of which can grant incorporeality at will.

...actually it'd be pretty cool to absorb one in this thread - albiet unlikely and fantastically dangerous.

I'll shelve that till we track down a Choker.

>>12780186
Especially because to eat one would require us fighting MANY.

First of all, I am also a bit upset by the reveal of Jack's monsterdom to Gaul. But not to the point of anger.

Second, Gaul is no paladin. He is not bound by paladin codes. He has little to none divine power.
Why?
Because in this setting Heironeous and Hextor had a fight, and Hextor lost, but Heironeous was also lamed by the fight. He is no longer a deity in the mechanical sense. In 3.5e term, Heironeous would probably be a Vestige.

Deal with it.

>>12780156
We also need to find a way to make sure Claire is still Claire. And we need to eat some cultist so we can take his or her knowledge - religion- cult of the devourer so we know more about what we are up against

>>12780202
Ohhh, that's clever.

That would make all kinds of sense!

>>12780194

Exactly.

Goddamn, I wish this quest would move faster - because the amazing things we could be doing are ages away. Levels below 5 are a bad place to start, but a worse one to stay.

I want us to eat a freakin' Runehound.

>>12780252
We'll get there. I expect that once we start hitting those levels, growth is going to exponentially skyrocket out of control. Should be a fun ride.

>>12780252
We COULD have eaten a wounded Werebear, but noooo anon was too cowardly.

What irks me are the people who shout "idiot!" and "waifu!" whenever Gaul or Claire get mentioned. Seriously, having friends and allies is a good thing. Lets us be multiple places, get multiple things done (unless you want us copying books and making amulets on OUR time), and makes us not a one-dimensional boring dude.

I wonder if those people whining are the sort who get scared about letting people close to them in real life.

>>12780252
It would help if people would stop fucking around with every little thing that crosses our path. We could have been out of this lousy city several threads ago, but people just had to fuck around in the sewers, and the fuck around some more with the cult. Pisses me right the fuck off.

>>12780298

Yeah, at any given level we can expect to hit well above our weight, which is really important because without a party to back us up we're effectively 4 levels lower when it comes to adventuring.

Once we grab a few casters and/or mobility related powers, we can start hunting specific prey off of the various lists we've made.

Getting Claire to research interesting monsters is a start on that as well. Hiring mercenaries, whom we then eat is another.

>>12780307

Fuck, I'd forgotten that - I was halfway through a post explaining just how this would completely change things for us and enable so much more.

I've noticed that utter cowardice is a common trend in /tg/ quests - it's happened in a few that I ran.

>>12780396
The worst kind of cowardice, too. It's not just "oh shit run run run", it's "haha bitch now you're mine and there's nothing you can--oh wait you can fight? fuck that, run!". It's like there's a bunch of people who were bullied in grade school and now exhibit the same mentality. Oh, wait.

>>12780396
Which quests have you run?

>>12780396
>>12780431
To be fair, when we did go out I don't recall that we actually managed to find the werebear. Instead we got treed by a pack of "pygmy wolves" which, if Gaul is to be believed, may have in fact just been wild dogs. Which is really embarrassing.

>>12780466
Not only is it another instance of cowardice that we got treed, but we went out after the werebear DAYS later. Hardly a surprise that we didn't find it. As an intelligent creature, that's the thing you need to hunt down when you have a lead IMMEDIATELY or just write off as a lost opportunity.

Personally it is my mission to corrupt Claire until she is a shadow of her former self. The first thing I want her to do is lead someone to us so we can feed on him. Next she'll starting killing people herself for me.
My end goal is to make her an Alienist.