>>7973860
Run it in Rogue Trader and we'll talk.

The hell you mean WH50K setting?

>>7973877
>implying he needs to lurk more

/tg/ decided to do what Games Workshop doesn't have the balls to do: advance the Warhammer 40k setting. The result was Warhammer 50k, where the Imperium of Man constructed a Galaxy-Class Destroyer 1 AU long to cruise around the universe,

>>7973877
Maybe he means that "Ship" thing that /tg/ came up with.

Where the entire Imperium is housed in a single ship that is somewhere between 1 and 5 AUs long.

>>7973873
Rgue Traders run taxi services in THE Ship

>>7973895
The Ship Is All
The Ship Moves

so its the mothership? but what of the other races?

That it would be interesting, but perhaps not as interesting as the original. After all, Chaos isn't really much of a threat in 50K, and the only xenos likely to have stowed away on board are going to be so far above the average DH character's powerlevel that it's not even funny.

>>7973904
The ship is so huge that the other races are also in the ship.

Picture the largest Space Hulk you can think of.

Now think bigger. With the Emperor of Mankind at the Helm.

The Ship Is All.

The Ship Moves.

>>7973913
And Holy Terra is the bridge.

Yes, they put the entire planet in the ship. France is the fire alarm.

>>7973913
So really its just Space Hulk with more shit thrown in.
I don't get the appeal.

>>7973928
fuck you then buddy
also you lack imagination

>>7973896
>>7973903
>>7973913
Stupid fucking setting. A ship Several AU long housing all of humanity.

How do you come up with something that stupid? Why would you create such a setting?

>>7973940
Because we could. There were several threads full of people who hated the idea, but more people liked it so it got fleshed out. Now the craze has settled down and it's quiet again.

But the engines are still running. Except for engine # 342A2 which was jettisoned fifty years ago. It'll float by Hive # 243 in three more years. Buy a ticket now to watch!

>>7973940
Exactly!
I mean the 40K setting was already fine for exploring and shit, but with a giant spaceship it kinda takes the fun out of it. I mean at least with billions of planets you could any sort of setting on. With a spaceship its pretty limited to the usual spaceship settings with little variety.

Also it was WH50k "cannon" that we had the Void Dragon somewhere on the ship corrupting mechanicus. So here's your new plot. (You now imagine an inquisitor a la Integra Hellsing shouting SEARCH AND DESTROY over and over again)

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/7723751/
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/7760069/
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/7765640/
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/7782415/

50k was awesome. Necromunda crossed with spacehulk crossed with apoc, with necron corrupted mechanicus as the big bads. Any doubters should read the original threads, before they cut their nose off to spite their face.

rolled 77, 93 = 170

50k needs more lore.

Pump it out boys.

The ship moves.

>>7973940
Quite frankly, it presents an interesting challenge and evocative imagery for me, which is what should really matter in a game.

Vast plains of rust, where a mere cut can promote gangrene, tetanus, and all manner of unpleasantness...

A great Water Recycling system, with floating cities and a living, breathing ecology in the river...

The Emperor's Children, gathered at his feet and making him the greatest Psyker in the known universe as the Adeptes Custodes interpret his navigational instructions and pilot the Great Ship through the cold blackness of space.

In the Grim Darkness of the 51st Millenium, there is only the Ship.

The Ship is All.

The Ship Moves.

>>7973940
We are conceived to dream of it because it is magnificent.

We are born to create it because it is glorious.

We live to maintain it because it is the flesh and bone of the Omnissiah himself.

We die to defend it because it is the culmination of all that we are.

We are the Adeptus Mechanicus, and this is our most sacred creed.

The Ship is All.

The Ship Moves.

>>7973997
Ok, so why was the ship built? Why is all of humanity on it? Why did they leave the Milky Way? And where are they trying to go?

>>7974007
Okay, that makes sense, in a weird Mechanicus-y way.

>>7973998
>The Emperor's Children, gathered at his feet

You do know that the Emperor's children were one of the traitor legions, right?

>>7974037
For answers to the first two questions, read the previous threads; we've discussed this already.

For your third question, it hasn't left the Milky Way yet. It won't leave the Milky Way until the entire galaxy has been consumed to be incorporated in the HDMS Imperium.

For the fourth? Wherever it feels like. Or wherever some resource needed on board can be found.

>>7974037
>Ok, so why was the ship built?
Emperor woke up asked for it and went back to sleep.
>Why is all of humanity on it?
Because their planet were strip mined to construct the ship.
>Why did they leave the Milky Way?
They didn't leave it yet.
>And where are they trying to go?
Wherever the Emperor wish it he is the captain after all.

>>7974037
1.&2. Emprah woke up and ordered it
3. Pic related
4. Only the Emprah knows

>>7974037
The Emperor woke up and told the Custodes to commission the construction of a grand and awe-inspiring ship to house the Emperor's Children and draw them all near to him.

So the Adeptus Mechanicus constructed it, harnessed some stars as power sources and harvested hundreds of worlds to use for the ship, gathered as many of the inhabitants of the Imperium in the great ship as they could, and set off for points unknown.

The Emperor pilots the ship, his dreaming mind powering the great Wheel, which steers the Imperium.

Where does the Emperor take his children? No one can say.

Only two things are certain:

The Ship is All.

The Ship Moves.

rolled 5, 61 = 66

>>7974037
>Why was the ship built?
It was built because Mars said so, and by some fluke, there was a sign from the Emperor that it should be so.
>Why is all of Humanity on it?
Not all of Humanity, but certainly, the Imperium itself has been drawn to it. The Emperor mans the helm of the ship, and brings all his children under his protection.

One Ship to carry us All.

>Why did it leave the Milky Way? Where are we going?
The Emperor steers the ship. Perhaps it was time for us to leave. As to where? Perhaps paradise. Perhaps to the future.

We should trust in our God and His Ship.

So it has nothing to do with the 'nids devouring the whole galaxy, or any of the other end-game scenarios that GW doesn't have the balls to put into motion.

I'm not too into this whole 50K thing. Not going to bash it, if you like it by all means flesh it out, but I sort of enjoy the 40k plot, although it is filled with holes, corny characters, and giant obstacles which block it from ever progressing. The 50k thing isn't doing it for me at all...

>>7974124
Fair enough

>>7974037

The ship was built for a number of reasons. First, Mechanicus theology. For matter and energy to be dead and unutilised, lying around as rocks and dirt or streaming uselessly into space, is a terrible, terrible waste. It is our duty as sentient beings to harness and shape the available matter and energy into more advanced, useful, and holy forms. The ideal endpoint is for the the mass of the universe to be converted into functioning machinery, at one with the Omnissiah. They can't pull that off yet, but converting the mass of the entire Imperium into a functioning starship is a damn good start.

Second, tactics. The Imperium was simply indefensible, over a million worlds with lightyears of unreliable warplanes between them. The Emperor's Navy, Guard, and Astartes could simply not be everywhere they needed to be. It had gotten to the point where the strategy was simply for PDF to die standing, losing worlds as slowly as possible, so the Guard and Astartes could eventually show up, blast everything to rubble, and ask the Administratum to recolonize the ruined world. By contrast, the Ship is humanity centralized and utterly, utterly invincible.

And third, the Emperor woke for the first time since the heresy and ordered the ship be built around him. He is the God-Captain, and only he knows the destination.

Pic related, coolant reclamation basin XRP7686 Ursani.

>>7974105
Nope. Emprah just said FUCK IT, WE'RE MOVING WITH MY AUNTIE AND UNCLE IN BEL AIR.

>>7974144

How long is an AU? I am unfamiliar with this form of measurement.

>>7974144

I want to be offended by this response but it is essentially correct.

>>7974181
Distance from the Sun to Earth.

>>7974191
Ooooooh. Oh!

Except that in this case it's more like Bel Air was the part being moved.

The Ship Moves

The Ship is All

This catch phrase is annoying, uncreative, and makes me feel like this entire concept was terrible.

>>7974135
>For matter and energy to be dead and unutilised, lying around as rocks and dirt or streaming uselessly into space, is a terrible, terrible waste. It is our duty as sentient beings to harness and shape the available matter and energy into more advanced, useful, and holy forms. The ideal endpoint is for the the mass of the universe to be converted into functioning machinery

This is... actually an interesting philosophy.

Ok. Last time we talked about it, it was decided that the ship is powered by Dyson spheres in the warp. What should we work on next?

>>7974226
I agree. It's not good enough to be a phrase. It's just random

The Ship is the Imperium The Imperium is the Ship The Ship is the Emperor The Emperor is the Ship All is the Ship. The Ship is All. The Ship Moves.

While I like the phrase, would the people living inside the ship really have any concept that it was, in fact, a ship? It's their entire damn universe, really. Sort of like in Discworld, A'tuin, the elephants, and the disc are the Universe to the inhabitants of the disc.

>>7974226
Then come up with a better one.

This whole thing is still a work-in-progress, after all.

>>7974226
>>7974273

It's a litany...

>>7974306

That's kinda the point. "The Ship" is their name for the world they know, and "The Ship moves" is a holy litany which most of them don't understand. They figure it's some metaphorical, theological thing. The priests agree with them; as many sects consider the suggestion that there is any place OUTSIDE the Ship base heresy, the idea of the Ship's motion is a holy mystery, a philosophical concept.

The idea that they're on a physical starship moving through space would come as a huge shock to most of the inhabitants, and is one of the secrets learned upon investiture as a full member of the Inquisition.

A possible alternative litany:

The body of the Imperium moves as one.

The mind of the Imperium dreams as one.

The soul of the Imperium lives as one.

The Imperium is forever within all.

All is forever within the Imperium.

Right now I am imagining that this would be like BLAME! but in the 40k grimdarkverse. I like this idea immensely.

>>7974439
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay gayer

maybe the ship is what the nids are running from, due to time weirdness

>>7974450

Kinda, but more varied than that. More environments than just high-tech corridors; many entire planets were incorporated. Deserts, jungles, seas. Huge zero-g areas, the walls, floor, or ceiling a year's travel in any direction, warring bandit clans fighting over floating clumps of wreckage, piloting ships driven by hand-cranked propellers... The blind deck where the plasmalamp died 200 years ago and there's nothing to make a fire, but the wall dispensers still produce corpse starch rations, so generations have grown up knowing "light" and "seeing" as forms of supernatural enlightenment possessed by their ancestors but lost long ago...

Oh, and the characters actually have personalities, so that's a bonus.

What is it traveling to another Galaxy to get away from the bullshit in the Milky Way?

If that thing is five AUs long, EACH ONE of those little lights at the top of the upper arches is FAR BIGGER THAN THE SUN

The HEAD of that eagle thing could probably hold the orbit of Mars.

What is the gravity even like there?

>>7974682
It's only 1 AU long, don't worry.

>>7974700

what a letdown

http://www.onemanga.com/BLAME/

Related for scale and interior.

>>7974700
>ONLY 1 AU long

>>7974553
Also, at a bare minimum the inner planets of the Solar System are all intact aboard the ship. Earth is the bridge, Mars is Main Engineering, Venus is either an agriworld or a giant park, Mercury is the machine shop. The Sun is mounted on the prow of the vessel as a sort of figurehead. Luna continues to revolve around the Earth, serving as protection for the bridge.

I'm not sure what would have been done with the outer planets; some of their moons, of course, were probably retained, particularly Titan (home of the Grey Knights) and Europa (an aquarium). But if there's some way it could be done, every planet and reasonably-sized moon in the Solar System should be preserved intact somewhere on board, the only celestial bodies granted such an honor.

>>7974847
How... How i this behemoth lit? What powers it?

And how did the xenos and forces of Chaos get into the ship?
Also, perhaps the Imperium is tired of the Tyranid attacks, and decided to strike back.

>>7974935
see
>>7974264

so do you want to runner a RT game as part of the ship or as part of the human remnant left behind?

>>7974945
While Chaos corruption is still posible the Chaos Marines are stuck outside the ship.

>>7975011
I'd say a decent amount of them got on. It'd be impossible to keep some of them from getting in during the construction process.

>>7975029
Alpha Legion at the very least must have infiltrated.

>>7975029
C&P from previous threads:

The traitors Astartes did not go without a fight. As the imperium drew back from the edges of the galaxy to build the greatest ship in the universe, Chaos started to advance. The primarchs rose from their thrones again and led their legions towards Holy Terra.

Mortarion led a Leper's Crusade. In his wake followed more diseases than the imperium had ever seen or will ever see again. His legion followed stubbornly, like they had always done, on a road straight to the Golden Throne. After the Crusade was broken, he took refuge in the sewers and dregs of the ship.

Magnus went to The heart of the imperium and the warp opened up wherever he went. His sorceries destroyed a thousand planets, but he was eventually stopped at the hull of the Imperium. Prospero was rebuilt on the Great Ship and through it the warp still tries to invade the last great Ark.

>>7974964
warhammer:remnant

>>7975062
Abbadon never saw the crusade reach Terra. He died when Hive fleet Levathian crossed the path of the Last Great Crusade. His place was taken by Lorgar, the Final Champion of Chaos Undivided.

The primarch Perturabo reached Terra first. His legion made siege upon the ship. The warp gathered around the hull and no one dared to touch them when they forced a breach. Inside the ship was a different matter. Perturabo tried to force his way to the throne, but was bogged down when the combined chapters of the loyal Astartes stood in his way.

Alpharius didn't participate in the crusade, his whereabouts are still unknow.

Fulgrim died when he met WAAGH Gorgutz. As he fell at the weapons of the 'Eadhunta, the demon in him ceded his body to Fulgrim's mind, just in time to feel his head chopped off.

>>7975085
Lorgar alone made it to the Golden Throne. He came to show his father the might of the Chaos gods. Wounded and tired from the fight against the loyalists, he prepared to die against the Adeptus Custodes. He didn't have to. They cleared the way to the throne to let him pass. The doors closed after he entered and he was never heard from again. Some cults still worship him and believe he has ascended to the holy seat of the Imperium. They think he is the true God-Captain. Everyone else thinks those cults are nutters.

Angron still rages, but his rage is ineffectual. Along with the other deamons he pounds away at the hull of the ship, a hull he will never breach. He came too late for the fight. It is said his rage exceeded Khorne's when he saw the Imperium closed forever.

>>7975070
pic related.

>>7975103
My guess as to what happened there:

The Emperor's eyes open, and he looks down at his wayward son.

"Lorgar, I am disappoint."

>>7975085
>Fulgrim died when he met WAAGH Gorgutz
Dawn of War is canon here too? That means the Blood Ravens are inside the ship.

>>7973973
this is hillarious

I am greatly amused

Any idea for environments? So far I've seen:
-arcologies built on giant cogs
-darkened sectors
-arctic sectors where heating has failed
-'Venice' in a water purification plant
-Squat operated planet striping mining facilities

I'd imagine that the SM fortress-monasteries were incorporated into the structure.

this is like tengen toppa gurren lagann oversized....

>>7975350
Cistern 37.

An empty and cavernous hold currently occupied by a small collection of traders and merchants, bartering to any wandering passengers who happen to enter their hallowed hall. The hold is in actuality a currently unused sewerage hold, and the inhabitants do not realise the peril that creeps ever nearer with each flush.

>>7975479
No, it'd be TTGL if it was Eldar.

GALAXY SIZED SHURIKEN GUN

>>7975532
The acolytes are sent to investigate the ever increasing Nurgle cult presence.

>>7975350
Deserts of Rust, formed by the air systems in concentrated amounts in areas where the air grows stale.

Tales of the Air System stirring near the vast Rust Deserts are usually tales of horror and mutliation as people recount the effects of hundreds of millions of microscopic rust particles being driven into the flesh of men, stripping flesh from bone and pitting what was left...

>>7975350
The Arboretum.

An enormous primeval wilderness region carefully designed to provide oxygen and scrub CO2 for the rest of the ship.

>>7975597
Now we know where the Catachans are.

The Fishermen of the 0G seas.

What was once meant as a reserve for the aquatic life of a 1000 worlds is now a number of bubbles of water floating across the sector while men with jet packs harvest the sea's bounty.

Foundry 560-87-G

Where the floor IS lava and people live in cities and walkways suspended above it.

remember that the ship continues expanding, it is constantly captureing nearby spacejunk (note: due to the scale of the ship, planets count as space junk) and using thier resorces to automaticly build new section.

So it doesn't need a Geller field because it is so powerful it makes its own warp terrain?

>>7976188
Yep.

>>7976188
Or the Emprah functions as one.

>>7976146
Oh crap, a mechanical Katamari!

>The blind deck where the plasmalamp died 200 years ago and there's nothing to make a fire, but the wall dispensers still produce corpse starch rations, so generations have grown up knowing "light" and "seeing" as forms of supernatural enlightenment possessed by their ancestors but lost long ago...

this is the coolest idea ever.

>>7976249

Hmm, makes me think Gormenghast in space. I like it.

>>7976424
Glorious

>>7976424
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
CANNOT UNSEE

>>7976424
THE MUSIC! IT WON'T STOP!

>>7976424
all thats missing is the strangely bulging crotch

>>7976527
That ain't a sword at the bottom of the picture.

>>7976547
CAN'T UNSEE

>>7976354
>there's nothing to make a fire

remove that, it's pointless. presumably, they've already adapted to darkness and can't even fathom a different kind of existence.

>>7976634
as long as there are people, there is something to make a fire out of.

People who think 50k and The Great Ship are stifling, unimaginative or bad idea's simply aren't thinking about it hard enough.

This ship is bigger than anything in the 40k universe. It encompasses planets. It uses suns to power its warp drive. It takes years to move between decks.

There's a world of possibility here.

>>7977436
So where are Da Orkz and Nids in all this?

The Crons?

>>7979173
Orks are like sand at a beach house, theres always going to be some around, be it infesting an entire hive or agri-sphere, or just a tribe slogging around in a dank lower tunnel somewhere.

As for Nid's I'm not so sure.

This is a ship so damn huge that entire planets have been enshrined within inside their own giganic suspensor cradles. Paradise worlds, whole and intact, serve as officer quarters. Agri worlds feed sectors of the Ship, worked by inhabitants who may not even know they are now inside the Ship, only that hundreds of years ago, the sky went dark for a century, before the Sky Lights saved the land with their omnipresent glow.

hmmmm. sounds retarded. its kind of a mary sue ship isn't it?

>>7979902
It would be if there was anything else on its scale. As it is, it's the setting, not a plot device. Everything that happens is on a personal level, inside the Ship.

It's like saying the solar system is a Mary Sue because it's the only system we know that can support life.

and what about its gravitational effects when travelling? something that big would distort gravity like a fucking.....i don't even know.

>>7979922
the idea has merit, but its just TOO big. i can picture maybe a ship that holds a planet, but not suns and shit. its a cool idea, but too big. the logistics of it are impossible.

>>7979927
Yeah, hence it's constant expansion. It derails solar systems when it passes nearby, and it's big enough to take the impacts and use the system's mass and materials to add to itself.

ITT: A whole bunch of people who don't realize how fucking big 1 AU is.

You can fit anything in there.

Personally, I'd stay away from Corridors 49^10 through 49^11. I hear there are bounty hunters dressed in medieval armor there, reading to cut you down just for crossing into their borders. I heard a rumor that they are in fact chaos cultists worshipping some abomination of a "God"; and that the Inquisition is preparing to launch a crusade through access hatches #13750^8 through #15888^8 - might just be a rumor, though.

>>7979940
>implying that interplanetary logistics are any less feasible than the logistics of a giant fucking spaceship.

>>7979940
This is an expansion of 40k. Logistics have no plave here.

>>7979960
I tried to imagine it, for effects of drawfaggotry. It just fucking blew my mind.

Those pillars? They have the width of saturn and the length of 6.5 jupiters. The small dots orbiting are roughly the size of earth and they are positioned on a surface 60% the size of the sun.

And this is one of 12 sections on the ship dedicated to obtain energy from stars in the warp, and each section it's 0.5% of the total length of an 1AU-long Ship.

>Imagining you can get anything other then a sphere with that much mass and gravity...

>>7981855
>Implying Warhammer gives a fuck about physical laws.

>>7981855
>Implying anyone knows the shape
Also
>Implying that the milky way galaxy is a sphere

What's the point of playing or telling a story inside such a ship?

It's like telling a story about a hive. Except outside the hive is a world, and outside the world is space, and outside that space is a gigantic spaceship. But we're never going to see or hear about that giant spaceship so why is it important at all to the plot?

>>7982280
Because the possibilities for the different locations is virtually endless.
You can have them start in a desert, tumble down into a jungle, fight their way past orcs, climb a couple of levels to find a busling metropolis under attack from necrons, and then end up outside the ship under attack from chaos.
Not to mention the fact that it is a giant machine allows for malfunctions, upgrades, new additions, accidental deletions, all sorts of stuff.

I think your problem is that you see the ship as static. As in its been built, nothing changes.
But in 50k thats just not true.
an easy set up for a campaign would be something like: your party starts on a dying agri world. Despite the best efforts of the leaders the plants just are no longer growing. Soon the order comes down to smelt that planet for metal and other parts. So the population is loaded onto "starships" to be transported to a hive area. However as the ships are moving, some dark eldar pop up, attack your transport and kidnap some loved ones. You chase after them only to quickly realize that you weren't on a "starship" just a transport inside the ship. Soon your quest for your loved ones has taken you from the seediest underbelly to the richest environs.

>>7982408
Con't
Even better would be just not to tell your party beforehand too much about the setting. Tell them only what the party in game knows. Let them experience an "Oh Fuck its a giant ship" moment and see if they like it.

>>7982408

This. Is. Fucking. Awesome.

rolled 9, 2, 1 = 12

>>7982459
To think, this idea was nearly sagebombed and trolled to death. Helm bless the resilient few. Emperor bless the Inquisition.

The imperium has very good anti grav tech. It is the reason titans dont collapse under their own weigh. The ship utilized a great deal of gravity control, otherwise the inhapitants would get crushed just from standing around. Also I recal someone mentioning that as the ship uses the mass and material of stuff it pulls in to expand, (which is also why the ship could be anywere from 1 to 5 AU or even bigger), that there are actual parts made out of necrons, who are still alive, but now stuck as a wall, or a pipe, or a valve. This results in rumors about certain areas being haunted or possed. But the preist know this is jsut the God-Captain giveing us sighns of his guidance.

I like the 50K idea. The idea uses the already over the top, turning to 11 of the 40K galaxy and turns THAT up to 11. It's great. What's needed is to inject a bit more dark comedy and stuff and it'd be near perfect.

>>7982920
Dark comedy?

Somebody already had an idea how WH50K is gonna look like...

>>7979940
Ohhohohohooo, you forgot what Warhammer 40,000 as a setting is supposed to mean, didn't you?
BEYOND THE IMPOSSIBLE, FOR THE EMPEROR!

I want cults writing 'the ship moves' on the bulkheads.
similar to the whole discworld dwarf thing.

ITT:
>>7985122

The ship is retarded.

You should feel retarded.

>>7985122
HERESY MOST DIRE. PURGE IT IN THE NAME OF THE GOD-CAPTAIN.

Hmmmm. So does the outer hull have its own atmosphere or nebula, kinda like V'Ger? Whoa...