>>8598494
Waldo Butters

>>8598585

Ah yes. An excellent name for a... no wait that's retarded.

You wake up now. Your head's pretty scrambled and your vision is blurry. You need to get the facts straight first. What's your name, your gender and the name of your clan? Or do you even have one?

We're Matou Zouken Jr.

Our servant will be female, also we have penis worms.

>>8598809
Fucking tripfag thread.

But yeah, what he said. Or Emiya something, with the POWER OF JUSTICE.

Oh god. This can't end well.

How about we just be some manly russian dude from the Einzberns? Like Zangief, complete with the bear wrassling?

Long story short, FSN quest is unplayable because it would make no fucking sense since there is no room to wriggle in another Grail War.

Plus I doubt /tg/ gives a damn.

>>8598846
Russian in the germans?

>>8598846
R. Mika as the servant ?

>>8598846
The Einzberns always send humunculi to the Grail Wars, and they're notorious for being physically weak.

>>8598846

Fine, yes, Volg Z. Einzbern. A manly man, who does manly things, like wrestle bears to death, eat raw meat, ignore concepts such as 'cold' and bed multiple women at the same time (were in the right setting for it I guess?)

my name is leroy jenkins
my bloodline is the oldest and most sacred ALL HAIL THE JENKINS CLAN!

>>8598897

Wait, the Einzbern chick from Zero was a homunculi? I thought those could have kids?
In fact I'm pretty sure they can't.

Besides, they probably did it after this guy was so manly the rest of the family hung their heads in shame, as they knew they'd never be able to find a manlier person to enter the grail war for them.

>>8598809
>>8598831
>>8598846
>>8598861
>>8598876

I think it should be noted that this isn't taking place in the cannon F/SN timeline, nor does it really have anything to do with the Nasuverse other than the Grail War.

>>8598846

You suddenly slap some sense back into yourself. You are Vladimir Keshnimov. The Bear of Russia! Called so by your specialization in augmentation magic and your abnormally toned body and physical status.

The room you currently stand in is relatively empty. There is nothing but a bed, a light and a window that leads outside. Your spare clothes lay under your bed and the calendar hanging on the wall marks the date as being particularly important.

It's time to try and prove yourself. What do you do next?

>>8598861
Alternate reality, genius.

Ta-Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

>>8598887

R.Mika as apprentice most likely.

Servants have to be heroes from history, no closer than 100 years ago. Archer get's special dispensation due to plot bullshit.

>>8598900

>Volg Z. Einzbern

Or this. Either one. I just didn't notice it before.

>>8598961
Manly things

>>8598926
Yes she was one. Yes, they can get pregnant, but through artificial insemination - I don't remember why.

>>8598961
Very well, continue.

>>8598926
Ilyia isn't REALLY a child of Iris, more like Iris is the template. Ilyia was made via her template plus Kiritsugu's sperm (Shirou's dad), thus making Shirou and Ilya actually related... kind of.

>>8598961
I say we check out what supplies we have. What is our focus for our summoning ritual?

>>8598997

You look to mirror hanging on the wall and FLEX. Your rippling muscles shine in the morning sunlight and each individual muscle twitches with energy.

OK that's enough of that. It's time to recall why you're here.

Your family, the __________ saw you as the most powerful member of their clan. Despite the fact you aren't what they'd call the brightest, you did have good relations with the clan leader and after some harsh diplomacy, he agreed to let you participate in the next Holy Grail War.

Now isn't there something else important you need to be doing today...?

>>8598977

Obviously I'd prefer it if we stuck with my name, but whatever people like best will be fine.

Okay.

>It's time to try and prove yourself. What do you do next?

Where exactly are we? What country? What do we know about the Grail War? Have we already been chosen? Is the canditacy still up for grabs? Do we know if any other servants have already been summoned?

>>8598974
Actually, the Throne of Heroes is separate from space and time. You need a focus that relates to a servant to summon one, which is why they normally are only form the past.

It was just luck that Archer happened to still have the pendant that Rin used as a focus.

>>8598961
Uh, go out and fight a bear? I don't really know anything about F/SN. Except that there's some woman named Medusa. And I might actually be confusing that with something else, so... yeah.

I am the Bagman. Self-taught mage living im magical indestructible bag. Without my cover i am harmless but nothing can hur me when i;m covered by it.

>>8599040
Shirou was adopted.

Einzberns were German, not Russian.

Albino muscle man with a passion for wrestling?
Homunculi or real Einzbern? That's the question.

>>8599052

You currently have your MANLY PHYSIQUE, your PERSONAL CLOTHES which is really nothing more than a speedo and your BUSINESS CASUAL clothes that your family insisted on you wearing.

As for other belongings, they're mostly various mundane items like a toothbrush, some food and a couple keepsakes from home. Not much in terms of mystical... wait focus for what?

>>8599139
>MANLY PHYSIQUE

Dear god...

>>8599101

Nope, you've got it right. F/SN is pretty rife with greek stuff actually. Over half of the servants are from that line of mythology. You don't see so many Nordic ones I guess as most of their heroes are gods, and those a Verboten as far as the Grail is concerned.
Animals are still allowed however, so Fenris and Sleipnir would probably be summonable, but good fucking luck finding catalysts for them.

>>8599120

Really? Not Russian? Even though Iyla spent the first half of the game in a russian outfit? Well, maybe were half-Russian, or live on the German/Russian border?

Russia DOES border Germany right? That's why those wacky Huns kept invading right?

>>8599120

Homunculus.

the Einzberns found out that the homunculi they had used up to now had been too frail. That's why the path to Akasha had always kept breaking before they could follow. So the last homunculus was created and raised with the goal of making him extremely reislient, both physically, mentally, and magically.

Sound good?

>>8599110
Quite but still related, if not by blood.

>>8599087
This is alternate reality F/SN as OP said, I guess most rules don't apply. Like the one that says that the Grail War can only be held in Fuyuki City.

>>8599139
Remember that today is the day we were suppossed to summon our Servant for the Holy Grail war.

Realize that we forgot the focus back home, impaled in the gut of a dead bear.

Attempt to figure out something to use as a focus for the servant summoning ritual.

>>8599087
No, you can summon a servant without a artifact. Instead of a specific one, the Throne of Heroes sends you someone that has something in common with you, like Sakura and Rider.

>>8599139

The focus for summoning the servant to take part in the grail war, to kill the other servants, to take the grail and to gain phoenominal cosmic power.

Enough to enable us to wrestle URSA MAJOR, THE GREAT BEAR THAT LIVES IN THE SKY. LONG HAVE YOU STARED AT THAT CONSTELLATION, POINTED WITH GREAT AUTHORITY AND PROCLAIMED "ONE DAY BEAR, ONE DAY!"

If we don't know anything about the current state of the grail war we should find our family contact and get some info.

>>8599163
>Russia DOES border Germany right? That's why those wacky Huns kept invading right?

Not sure if serious...

Also, she's german, she has the coat because she comes from some snow covered mountain range, and because she was only a few months old. I don't know if she ever saw any other season then winter.

>>8599139
The item that we brought to summon our Servant, something with a spiritual link to a great hero of the past.

...we did bring one, right? RIGHT?

>>8599204

Nope. Would seem we forgot it.

How far are we from home? Time to run the fuck back and get it? We do have absurd stamina, so I think we might be able to make it...

>>8599164
So, our hero is basically a male Leysritt?
Freakish strength and huge boo-err, pectorals.

And yeah, they weren't Russian, even though Ilya is associated with snow/winter, and appeared in her purple Russian cap and coat quite often. Even though Ilya is a Russian boy's name.

>>8599195

You still need to be fairly powerful to do that, it's a LOT easier with a catalyst. That's probably why there was so much property damage when Rin nearly flubbed her summoning.

>>8599074

OH CRAP THE GRAIL WAR!

OK get your bearings straight.

>Where exactly are we?

Skyline City. Infamous for being a kaleidescope of cultures and having everything from a china town to a little Russia!

Which you currently call home.

>What country?

Why does that matter?

>What do we know about the Grail War?

You pull out your families specific instructions on the matter.

"The Grail War is a competition between many masters for the sake of gaining the legendary Holy Grail. The only way to win it is to summon a servant and have him and his master compete. This servant is a legendary figure from the past who is summoned depending on many factors, the focus is key for one. But many other things such as the Master, the intention behind the summoning and the specific incantations used can affect the servants outcome."

>Have we already been chosen?

Well your family did send you here. It would stand to reason you're expected to compete.

>Is the canditacy still up for grabs?

You dunno. You haven't met any of the other masters in this city, and if you have they haven't said so.

>Do we know if any other servants have already been summoned?

Again. You dunno. You don't typically think things out anyway.

>>8599200
She is more than a few months old (In the cannon universe) considering that she was around Kiritsugu for a year or two before the 4th grail war...

>>8599198
>to take the grail and to gain phoenominal cosmic power.

>*laughingAngraMainyuscreeeeeeee.jpg*

>>8599225
Her full name is Ilyasviel Von Eizenbern.

Also I find the thought that we left the summoning focus in the guts of a bear hilarious.

>>8599139
What Russian heroes of time are there...
Wait.
WAIT.

IT'S TIME TO GET SOME FUCKING RASPUTIN UP IN THIS BITCH

>>8599198
>>8599204
>>8599188
Question: If we're so astoundingly strong, can't we fight for ourselves? Or is having a servant required?

>>8599217

Well, maybe the Einsberns will supply one? It seems like the sort of thing they wouldn't let just ANYBODY have, so perhaps they like to have some sort of control over what servant is summoned by their Candidates?

>>8599232

19 or 20, I think. Certainly older than Shirou.

>>8599232
True, true.

>>8599248
Servants are as strong as WHOLE FUCKING ARMIES.

>>8599248

Having a Servant is required, because most Servants are immune to the attacks of humans. However, we could have a support Servant. In the series, there was an assassin who was the master of Caster. Caster buffed him to be able to bypass Servant protections, and then he fought while Caster provided cover fire.

>>8599231
We know what we're doing here, come on!

Our family should have stolen and mailed us Lyudmila Pavlichenko's sniper rifle by now. Go pick it up at the post office and summon her.

>>8599256
FFFFF- How could I forgot that she's actually older then nii-chan?!

I keep mixing it up with her 3 year life expectancy.

OKAY
SO

IN ORDER TO SUMMON A SERVANT YOU NEED SOMETHING THAT IS CONNECTED TO THAT SERVANT.

WE WANT TO SUMMON RASPUTIN.

WE NEED TO RETRIEVE...

HIS FOSSILIZED PENIS.

>>8599188

"OH YEA!" You shout. You DO have a summon charm! You proceed to take out your...

Your... oh dammnit it's gone isn't it?

OH well. "World's Oldest, Petrified Sandwhich" probably wasn't gonna summon anything special.

Now think. Where would be a good place to find artifacts of immaculate power?

>>8599303
Museum gift shop.

I hope we'll have a good ending. Pic related, that's not a good end.

>>8599248

>>8599272

Also, the Servant has to be summoned because the Grail wont materialise if they aren't all summoned.

>>8599288

step.1: Go to Romania
step 2: Find a stake a certain Romanian celebrity impaled his enemies with.
step 3: Summon Lancer
step 4: MISERABLE PILE OF SECRETS
step 5: ???
step 6: PROFIT

>>8599303
Break into the nearest Museum, Steal the fossilized skull of a T-Rex.

Summon Sue the T-Rex as your Berserker Class Servant.

>>8599303
of course! WE SHALL RAID THE VATICAN

>>8599340
BRILLIANT!

>>8599333

I like this one. But, do we really have time to head back to Romania?

>>8599303

TO THE MUSEUM!

>>8599313

20 minuets and a bus-ride later you're standing in the middle of an entire palace full of various nick-nacks and puzzles with dinosaurs on them.

A man notices your hulking, curious form and walks over to you with a friendly smile.

"Excuse me good sir!" he says "can I help you with something?"

>>8599340
This cannot possibly go wrong.

>>8599228
Rin's a ditz - she summoned Archer at the time her power was lowest.

>>8599333
>Dracula

>Lancer

Dear fucking god... Now I'll have to remake my custom Heroic Spirit character sheet collection.

Wait a minute, the TATARI is a testament that there never was a vampire Dracula.

...Well, not like he had to be a vampire... It passes, you sir are awesome.

>>8599356
Where do you keep the Tyrannosaur skulls?

>>8599356
"Yes, I'm looking for an artifact of ancient power. Do you have any?"

>>8599356
QUICK, LIST THE MOST VALUABLE TREASURES IN THIS MUSEUM

>>8599356
Do you have anything with a T-Rex and a bear on it?

>>8599356
"YES MY GOOD COMRADE! I SEEK THE SKELETON OF THE TYRANNOSAURUS REX! PLEASE DIRECT ME!"

>>8599356

Tell him we're interested in relics of folk tales and legendary people and stuff.

Try to put our least scary face while we ask.

>>8599303
I'm all for summoning Rasputin. So... Find one of the Romanov's treasures?

>>8599356

Stare imperiously down at him, ask him if he has a guide map for the museum. Case the place for possible servant foci, then use magic to break in tonight and steal them.

I have no idea whats happening but I'm shitting my pants here its so awesome.

>>8599385
>I'm all for summoning Rasputin. So... Find one of the Romanov's treasures?

You know how many people have owned thos things?
BAD END: We get Anastasia
TRUE END: We get Rah-Rah-Rasputin
GOOD END: We get Ivan the Terrible.

>>8599400
>Anastasia
>Bad End

Hay, she was pretty useful in Shadow Hearts. Hopefully she still has her Orobas photo for magic.

>>8599366

He looks at you with a confused expression for two minuets before responding.

"The museum has many artifacts on display. We've recently received the mummified genitals of Rasputin from Ukrain. And on loan from Romania is a REAL wooden spike used by Vlaud the impaler."

He looks sullen for a second "Although you'll have to excuse our Norse exhibit for being closed down. We had a thief and one of our more valuable artifacts was stolen."

>>8599365

"Fossils are through the stone arch."

>>8599356
get tour of museum
find out most valuable artifacts therein

Question: Things that are older Are more powerful in terms of Magic in the Nasuverse, correct? Like Sorcerery cannot do SHIT against Divine Words because Sorcerery is newer.

Wouldn't that mean that a T-Rex would have a shit-ton of Magic resistance?

>>8599400
>AWESOME END: We get Rah-Rah-Rasputin

FTFY. But didn't OP say that intent and motivations factored in? So if we get something like that, and focus on Rasputin, we'd have a good chance of getting him, right?

>>8599415
Get to fossil section.

Also, I have thought up a spell for our aspiring Master. It is a powerful spell, almost on the Noble Phantasm level, so its costly to use it.

The spell's name is BEARCAUST, it turns everyone around the caster into bears that are at the same time mana bombs, so when slain they explode into raw mana, the bears serve us. We are immune to this damage, so will be our Servant.

>"Although you'll have to excuse our Norse exhibit for being closed down. We had a thief and one of our more valuable artifacts was stolen."

AW FUCK.

>"The museum has many artifacts on display. We've recently received the mummified genitals of Rasputin from Ukrain. And on loan from Romania is a REAL wooden spike used by Vlaud the impaler."

STEAL BOTH LATER.
SO NO ONE CAN SUMMON VLAD OR RASPUTIN BUT YOURSELF.

>>8599415
We don't need artefacts of power, buy something with a picture of a T-Rex fighting a bear and use that to summon something!

>>8599415
>We've recently received the mummified genitals of Rasputin from Ukrain.

I love it when a plan comes together.

But yeah, the two options that sound most entertaining are:
1. Recovering Rasputin's penis
2. Recovering Vlad's penis. I mean impaling stake.

>>8599415
>"Although you'll have to excuse our Norse exhibit for being closed down. We had a thief and one of our more valuable artifacts was stolen."

Oh FUCK.

WE NEED SUE NOW!

>>8599415

WHAT WAS STOLEN, PUNY LITTLE MAN?

>>8599442
VIKING VERSUS REX

Rasputin or Vlad? FUCK I CAN'T DECIDE. :<

>>8599447
THIS

WE NEED KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT WE'RE UP AGAINST

>>8599415
Get GENITALS. Use to summon the great RASPUTIN. Probably should wait until the museum closes to break in and get the said artifact.

>>8599430
>SO NO ONE CAN SUMMON VLAD OR RASPUTIN BUT YOURSELF.

I'm with you. The last thing we want to face is one of these guys.
But we should still case the joint anyway. Let's not steal Rasputins cock, unknowingly leaving the GOLDEN THRONE OF GILGAMESH untouched in the Mesopotamian exhibit or something.

>>8599454

Vlad. We get fucking Dracula, with all his Dracula-ish powers.

GET BOTH THE ARTIFACTS LATER TO PREVENT OTHERS FROM SUMMONING ANYTHING

SUMMON DRACULA

(We already are the muscle here. Nasuverse works on belief, so Dracula would have the slew of vampire powers - and be confused as fuck by them -, and having someone who can turn into mist and do suggestions and that shit would be useful, not to mention he'd be almost as crazy psychotic as us, so we'd be good bros)

>>8599478
Seconded.
Though the likelyhood there might be something of that caliber is low.

>>8599447

"J-JUST THE BOW OF A SHIP!" the man cowers "WE GOT IT FROM THE VIKING MUSEUM IN DENMARK! It's one of the oldest found!"

>>8599509
Clearly Cthulu is our enemy! that must be the bow of the ship that was crashed into him!

>>8599489
For the love of god, he wasn't actually a vampire.

>>8599491
Canon fact in the nasuverse that Dracula was infact never a vampire, and that the whole Transylvanian blood drinking gentleman gig was just a myth. Exactly what TATARI/Night Of Wallachia needed, and he still exists (in one form or the other). So Dracula is actually alive and active.

>>8599532

Nasuverse works on belief.

>>8599509

It's Beowulf.

Damn, a bit late, but can't we fly to Mt. Rushmore, climb ontop of Teddy and summon him as a Rider?

>>8599466
>>8599491
>>8599489

OK I'll flip a coin. Guys who want Vlaud call it.

>>8599532
And Madusa (if she even existed) wasn't really a scaly broad with snakes for hair

We are summoning legendary heroes with embellished myths surrounding them. Not historically accurate figures from Eastern Europe

>>8599561

But Vlad Tepes was fucking insane, and you know it.

>>8599538
Meaningless, as a Servant's powers are based on the hero's actual properties, their legend (in this case vampire nonsense), and what is forgotten (whatever...)

So even if Dracula was not a real figure, because people believe in Dracula, Vlad Tepes would come equipped with TATARI/Wallachia powers in addition to being a Lancer.

>>8599509
take both remaining artifacts to ensure nobody can use the one we don't use

also, I vote for vlad, certified badass

>>8599509
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

we aren't even gonna check the greek exhibit?

Votin for Vlad anyway

>>8599561
Right, and just how many people actually know the connection between Vlad and Dracula? I'm guessing not as many as you'd think.

>>8599532
>>8599538

We know. But Nasuverse works on belief. The more people that know and believe a myth, the stronger the servant is. It's why Saber was so hax - everyone knows about King Arthur.

Now, how many people haven't heard of Dracula, again?

Yeah.

>>8599556
Not voting for Vlad, but since none of them are doing what you ask, calling Heads for Vlad.

>>8599591

Fuck the Greek exhibit, FS/N's already glutted with Greek heroes already.

Tak Vlad. Summon him as either Lancer or Berzerker.

>>8599610
Lancer. Someone's got Berserker already.

Motherfuckers.

You stomp away, mumbling to yourself about what this development could mean. Could other masters already be summoning servants? You'd better hurry...

You notice a fire alarm then... hmmm you know. Pulling it WOULD cause a great deal of panic...

>>8599592

Order of the Dragon

Dragon = Dracul

Vlad Dracul = Dracula

Funnily enough, 'Dracul' also meant 'demon'.

>>8599595
It's not about that. It's about how many people realize the Draula was inspired by Vlad the Impaler. Which, again, is not as many people as you might think, outside of vampire worship circles.

silly people. vlad doesn't HAVE to be a vampire, he's badass enough.

i mean, off the top of my head, 3 things he did:
-won't take off their turbans in my presence? fine, NAIL THEM TO THEIR SKULLS
-wow there's alot of bums in my country. invite them all to my place, I got a brand new hall, i'll feed them, it'll be a grand old time... okay, lock em in after they're done eating then burn it down.
-invading army? okay, let them walk right to my castle, and see a forest of their freshly impaled kinsmen; be sure some of them are still alive and screaming when the army shows up. What's that? they turned right around and went home? gee, I wonder why

Fuck, If I'm not getting the Rex, than might as well pitch in my vote to go and get Vlad.

Poor fucker isn't gonna know shit about his own powers.

>>8599561
True, but we can't summon something that still exists. And Rider had her own story as well, IE: when she and her twins were godesses until man corrupted them and Rider went insane and ate everyone, including her sisters.

Also, this guy is "Dracula" in the nasuverse.

>>8599627

That's actually not a good thing, Demons and Dragons are beyond the grail...

>>8599624
I really think we should come back tonight... but since it seems like another mage is ahead of us DO EEEET.

>>8599640
archer

Pic related is how our magic work!

We can affect reality by flexing our muscles, in a reverse form of mind over matter!

>>8599629

Actually, lots and lots of people know that Dracula was inspired by Vlad Tepes. More that you think.

>>8599646
Rider was downgraded to a demonic creature. The Grail Works just fine.

>>8599624
PULL IT

NO REGRETS

JUST DELICIOUS ARTIFACTS

Nah, Vlad himself is dead, which is what matters.

That said we might get a visit from TATARI/Wallachia going lolwut?

And Vlad will be all like: BITCH!

And then they will have a contest to see who can terrorize the countryside more.

Vlad wins due to Vlad.

>>8599624
pull it. grab stake and penis, in that order, BURNING FLAT anyone in our way

You know, I thought of running a Grail quest the other day where /tg/ would have mundane objects to summon their Servant, among them a Sega Saturn.

>>8599646

THERE'S NO TIME TO BE SITTING AROUND WAITING FOR OTHER SERVANTS TO GET YOU!

It is time to act! You pull the fire alarm and watch as people in the museum all cover there heads as water pours down on them.

PUSSIES. If this were Russia they would be soaking wet and expected to go out in a blizzard in their underwears and take it like a man! As people begin to crowd about you slip past several of them and go for...

Vlaud the Impaler's steak.

It's behind glass though. CURSES! How will you reach it!?

>>8599707
SMASH THAT BITCH OPEN!

>>8599707
PUNY BRITTLE GLASS, FIST HUGE, BASH

>>8599707
SMASH GLASS WITH OUR MIGHTY FIST

>>8599707
FLEX OUR MUSCLES!

THE RIPPLE EFFECT IN REALITY WILL MAKE THE GLASS SHATTER!

Or we could punch it.

BE LIKE ACID! EAT THROUGH THE GLASS!

wait

OH WELL, DO IT ANYWAY! WHAT THE FUCK DID MENDELEEV KNOW?

What would Vlad's Noble Phantasm be? A Reality Marble where an unlimited number of stakes shoot out of the ground, impaling opponents through their ass?

>>8599419
No. Older doesn't make something more powerful unless by older you mean "had more time to accumulate magic energy", which dinosaurs didn't do. Also True Magic is more powerful than sorcerry because in it's times, people couldn't just us a bomb to blow shit up. Now days every spell is engraved into the fabric of the reality and casting it costs as much energy as it would take to create and use said bomb. Also, Divine Words are pretty much what they called: divine language from the times gods walked the earth - they're magic in themselves.

>THEY STILL THINK YOU NEED A CATALYST FOR SUMMONING AND THAT YOUR HERO ISNT HAND PLUCKED BY THE GRAIL ITSELF
Hah, look at those peasants who call themselves knowledgeable of the magecraft behind Heaven's Feel.

They probably still think you have to make a magician's circle to summon the servant too!

>>8599707
URSA PUNCH!

>>8599707
>Vlaud the Impaler's steak.

guys... what if Vlad is genderbended in this universe like Arthur?

>>8599755
Most likely, or something else that involves impalement.

>>8599760
There are two ways a servant is considered powerful: Fame of legend, and AGE of legend.

Thus Gil and saber were the strongest. Gil is the oldest hero, and Saber is the most famous.

>>8599755
Or just a forest of impaled people screaming and moaning, Vlad can teleport and recreate himself from every single stake+victim. Or turn them all into him.

You are now imaging giant stake wielding Dracula fighting someone all Agent Smiths Matrix style.

>>8599726
>>8599721
>>8599715

YOU BREAK GLASS WITH YOUR MIGHTY FISTS.

"FREEZE!" a museum guard shouts as he aims his rifle at you. CURSES! You've been found out!

Grabbing the impaler's steak, you have a few options.

Do you kill this guard for seeing you take the steak? Do you just book it or do you risk going for shlong too?

>>8599773
If that happens that FSN is a fucking brilliant troll.

>vlad the impaler's noble phantasm

>>8599773
I see no problem with this.

>>8599792
give him a hug with your bear hands

>>8599773
then we shall impale her

>>8599773
Weird, I can't find any images of Alucard. I swear I saved at least one.

>>8599769

Whoops meant stake.

I'm such a moron.

>>8599792
GO FOR THE SCHLONG!
IGNORE THE PUNY GUARD

>>8599792
Turn him into a bear then ride him out of the building. Then escape into the sewers and cut a swath of carnage in the hobos. Return home and summon Dracula.

>>8599792

Impale the penis on the stake, summon Rasputula!

>>8599830
Oh god no...

>>8599792
deflect his bullets with our MIGHTY ABS (and magic), try to grab the rasputin artifact on the way out

>>8599792
Oh my god. Lets kill the guard with the steak! It will solve the immediate problem and will probably act as a summoning catalyst for Vlad!

>>8599792
Knock him the fuck out.

GET THAT FOSSILIZED PENIS

>>8599820
THIS

>>8599842
THISTHISTHISTHIS

>>8599842
Thats kind of a good idea...

>>8599773
Meh, serve you all right for taking the easy route.

>>8599842
LETS DO THIS

Is the steak fossilised? Can we still pop it in the microwave after we get back?

>implying museum guards carry real rifles
that's a toy
MY FISTS, THEY ARE MADE OF STEEEELLL!!!

>>8599842
don't be a retard. there's no magic circle and we're not at top magic hour. DOING IT WRONG, OH SO WRONG

>>8599864
ONLY THE WEAK THINK AND PREPARE. BLOOD AND IMPALEMENT SHALL BE ENOUGH TO DRAW THE MADMAN IN.

>>8599860
STOP SAYING STEAK ITS MAKING ME HUNGRY

>>8599755

Or he summons the armies of the Wallachian, Hellsing style.

I had an idea that as a servant he could have the ability to control blood, like that one guy from Flame of Recca, or like Gato-1's shadow. Or something.

>It's behind glass though. CURSES! How will you reach it!?

USE STRENGTHENING MAGICE ON BODY. USE VANISHING FLAT ATTACK ON GLASS.

>>8599864
>He actually does think magic circles and "top of your power" has any relevance to summoning!

>>8599864
If the circumstances are right, you don't need that shit.

Remember how Saber was summoned?

>>8599808

You proceed to catch him in mighty Russian Bear Hug. Squeezing every last breath from his body.

He collapses down in front of you. Unconscious. You hear more footsteps about. It seems like they're starting to catch on that it was a false alarm.

This could complicate things. Even if you're a mage you can't risk exposing yourself or your mission to normal people. Going for the shlong might be too risky.

>>8599780
No. Gil is powerful because a) he has a crapton of NPs b) he comes from times where both humans were simpler, which in Nasuverse means more powerful by the logic that they originally were more focused on their original goal (killing power etc)

Saber is powerful because she a) is a dragon reincarnation b) made a pact with the world

Also, Berserker > Saber.

>>8599896
FUCK THAT! STEAK THAT MOTHERFUCKER!

>>8599896
VERY WELL.

ESCAPE!

>>8599887
>Top of power

Dude, magic circle or not, summoning a servant drains your mana like hell. And even though most of the bullshit fed to mages is fake, the servants DO take prana from the master. So, yeah, being a top of power helps.

>>8599896
Leave the cock, get out and prepare for the summoning!

Reinforcement magic on skin. Become bulletproof, knock him out gently, walk away calmly.

>>8599902
>both humans and weapons were simpler

Also, forgot to mention: fame gives a boost of strength but only in the lands where the legend is strong. That's why no servant in both FSN and FZ got a fame bonus.

>>8599896
Do it anyway. Give genitals to trusted friend, have him/her summon Rasputin. Fight side by side until the final battle between the two of you. Teamwork could allow us to go far.

>>8599896
>This could complicate things. Even if you're a mage you can't risk exposing yourself or your mission to normal people. Going for the shlong might be too risky.

I guess it's time to leave. Stride imperiously through the front door carrying the stake, acting like there's nothing unusual in you having it.

Hail taxi. Cross this museum off your ever dwindling lists of public places you are no longer allowed to go.

>>8599911
Saber was also rather weakened by her incomplete summoning as well as Shirou's shortcomings as a magus.

>>8599902
Beserker is only better then saber due to MAD ENHANCEMENT.

(although the loli wasn't using it most of the time, saber was also not on her top form anyways.)

>>8599911
Maybe you slept through the VN. Maybe you didn't read it. But it takes a hell of a lot of time to explain to you both in Fate Stay Night and Fate/Zero that NONE OF THE SHIT USED TO SUMMON A SERVANT IS ACTUALLY NEEDED NOR DOES IT FACTOR INTO ANYTHING.

>>8599887
>Female Gilgamesh Maid Outfit.jpg

Actually thats shota Gil from Ataraxia. They turn him into a shota with that immortality herb he chased around in the old days to cure him off his grail-taint induced dickheadness.

Either way we win. If we end up having to fight Rasputin, it's still okay.

Also, the gilposter should pay attention to the fact that the FSN game itself is filled with exceptions. That Rin tried to set up the conditions to summon Saber as much as possible and wasn't instead screwed up by a very unlikely scenario means nothing in the grand scheme of Grail Wars. It was an unorthodox war.

>>8599931
Technically Sasaki Kojiro should have one, but inadequate Master etc etc.

>>8599951
You're pretty stupid. I have transgendered Gil images because she is mai waifu.

>>8599945
I KNOW

BUT THE SERVANT DOES DRAIN MANA FROM THE MASTER

THOSE WALLS ARE TRYING TO CONTAIN YOU
ARE YOU A BAD ENOUGH MOTHERFUCKER TO NOT LISTEN TO VOICES IN YOUR HEAD?
SCREAM
>I'M THE JUGGERNAUT BITCH

>>8599937

You decide to cut your losses and book it.

You make your way outside the front doors, move past the crowd of people and proceed to hail a taxi. A nervous cab drives up, opens the door and lets you in. You relax on the back seat, pull out a list and mark it off the map.

"So uhh... where too mac?" the cab driver asks.

>>8599966
And that too then. I was just pointing out that Gil getting turned into a trap for a while is canon.

>>8599956
Rin got Archer because of the catalyst she used, not because of any weird fuck-ups. She didn't have any relics, so she chose her strongest magic jewel which is incidentally the jewel she used later on to save Shirou. AND WE ALL KNOW WHO SHIROU LATER BECOMES.

>>8599957
He wasn't actually the real Kojiro, just somebody who was mistaken in his times for him - a Wraith type Servant, just like True Assassin.

>>8599944
No, without mad enchantment Berserker would have superior instincts and skills that were blocked due to insanity. Also, read about his bow NP.

>>8599978
Lets ride home, then bearhug the driver, take him up to our room, impale him on the stake, try to summon Dracula.

>>8599966
There aren't that many genderswapped Gilgamesh pictures. None of them are porn.

>>8599978
LET US AWAY TO HOME

EITHER THAT OR A LEYLINE CONVERGENCE OR SOME SHIT

>>8599978
BACK TO HOME TERRITORY
wherever that is

>>8599988
He doesn't even look like a trap in Hollow Axataria, he just looks shota, which incidentially is what he is.

Well until he goes "FUCK IT".

Ahhh FSN. PROVING that even mythology is better as an anime

>>8599995
Not mistaken, he didn't exist period. It was implied that he was a fabrication brought about by Musashi to brag of his own skills, it's just that he became so famous/people actually believed that he was a historical person which led to him being a Heroic Spirit.

>>8600030
Just imagine the maid outfit on him~

I ACTUALLY HAD A PICTURE LIKE THAT, ALL THE MALE SERVANTS IN MAID CLOTHING AND SHOTA-GIL. ARGH WHERE DID I PUT IT?!

>>8600019
You think I don't know that? Just stating it out loud for no reason makes you look stupid.

>>8599995
He is an unreliable narrator at best. Currently he could be:

THE REAL THING
An apparition forged from the legend
A faker

>>8600044
...that's what I said.

How about Gil in Saber's clothing?

>>8600023

This. Home most likely, as we don't seem like thetype to know the nearest Ley Line convergance sites location.
Besides, a hundred pounds worth of Rifts sourcebooks tell me that it's a bad idea to go near those anyway.

>>8600062
We just need good artists to draw more.

>>8600037
Alexander the Great getting Arthur Pendragon drunk at a party with Gilgamesh of Uruk.

>>8600028
>>8600023

He drives you back to your home in little Russia.

The small, one room apartment is now being filled with trinkets from home. Trinkets to try and assist in your summoning that is.

Now your steak is ready and you wish to summon Vlaud the impaler. However there are a few specific things you can do first. Like: what class do you summon him as? What charms do you put into this summoning?

Do you wait till midnight tonight when you believe your magical energy will be at maximum?

>>8600076
>good artists
>Japanese animation shit.
Oh how you jest.

>>8600092
Class: LANCER He IS VLAD THE FUCKING IMPALER

And yes, we should wait till the height of our power if not just to top off his tank with Magic Power.

And make fucking sure that all the clocks are fucking working!

>>8600044

I still think that it was more than a little ironic that it was Kojirou who was the fake made up servant in a Grail War with Hercules, Medusa and King Arthur all walking about as supposed legitimate figures from history.

>>8600075
Is that a hundred pounds as in weight or a hundred pounds as in currency?

Sigurd, the dragon slayer.
>Abillities/Equipement
Gram the sword of the chosen: B
A legendary sword able to cleanly cut all earthly materials and most others with ease.

Dragon Blood - Immortality: A
Immune against attacks ranked A or lower everywhere except his left shoulder.

Dragon Blood - Language Winged Beasts: C
Able to converse with with birds and other winged creatures.

Dragon Heart - Prophecy: A
By concentrating in a calm environment he can somewhat gaze upon the future, and or distant locations though fuzzy.


>Stats
Height: 197cm
Weight: 102

Strength: B
Endurance: A+
Agility: A
Magical Energy: B
Luck: D
Noble Phantasm: A

>Skills
Mind's Eye (True): A
Able to sense the flow of things, sensing movement and gives the ability to sense actions before they are executed.
If there is a chance of victory, as long as it exist, be it 1% or less, this abillity greatily improves the chance of success.
Bravery: A+
Ability to ignore mental interfearance such as coercion. confusion or illusions.

>Appearance
Wears a full armor - helmet with exceedingly large shouldercaps.
A dark red/brown cape, short beard, shoulder length hair with some braids.
[spoiler]Best Servant, you know it to be true[/spoiler]

>>8600092
What class do you summon him as?
The grail decides that, fuckwit.
What charms do you put into this summoning?
None, as the grail does everything by itself and no preparations or catalyst like the stupid steak is needed to get the servant WHICH THE GRAIL HAS DECIDED FOR YOU IN ADVANCE.

>>8600119
Musashi was a hack anyway.

>>8600092
We wait till midnight, and throw around items that are vampiric in nature or have something to do with the whole impaler legend. IE: Splash blood around! Impale hobo on a stick, dead bats, etc.!

>>8600092
wait until midnight.
try for lancer, but if not, go for caster.

>>8600128
Gil has Gram.

>>8600130
Read back, we gave up any canon connection earlier, this is alternate Nasuverse or something. Just go with the flow.

>>8600076
/tg/ has drawfags. Grab one of those sometimes.

>>8599303
>Where would be a good place to find artifacts of immaculate power?
Vienna

SPEAR OF DESTINY!.

>>8600111
>hurr hurr hurr I expect the same art movements to happen concurrently over the world

You are sort of faggot who thinks "taste" is an objective quality don't you

>>8600130
Even if it is true, the Grail at least gives you the illusion that you are in charge. Everyone with proper catalysts got the Servant they wanted.

>>8600116
>lancer
Well, it can be assumed that vlad used lances. I mean, everyone knew how to use one back then. And he DID impale people a few times.

>>8600130

>>8600130
I do believe we are in an alternate universe
Maybe in this universe clicking your heels summons your servant

That being said, summon him as Vampyro.

>>8600161
Never, I'm going to point it out every time until you stop fucking everything up.

>>8600111

... show me the background of that Jap picture and THEN we'll talk. Jap art was shit on people but spend fucktons of time on landscapes and animal shots. It's basically the opposite of western art in that they put greater emphasis on the people and less on the backgrounds in most cases.

>>8600130
...where the fuck did you take that from ? Yes, the grail decides the class (unless you add an additional line to the summoning to summon your hero as a berserker). No, the catalyst influences who you summon - it can be a handpicked artefact for the hero you want. If you don't possess such, the grail picks the hero, but one that will somehow match you.

>>8600169
And then we summon Hitler. Whom I actually stated as a Servant. Ack, so lazy to do it again... I did Hitler, some arabian dude with an awesome magic sword, the Red Baron, Rasputin, Jack The Ripper...

>>8600181
It does no surprise me that some random wakfu retard can only post the same as what has already been posted.

>>8600182
Its fucked up beyond hope. But it has glorious Motherland!
I'm in for the lulz.

>>8600191
>in most cases
Yes, when it is a portrait, they don't focus on the background at all. In fact, in the example, 3 of the western images have beautiful backgrounds. The pressure is on the one making the claim. Present some "beautiful" jap art.

>>8600196
Read Fate/Stay Night
Read Fate/Zero

Forget everything in the anime.

By the way I just want to correct the people who said Ilya was only a few months old. She is/was NINETEEN YEARS OLD.

>>8600130
OKAY STOP TALKING

GOD DID YOU FORGET THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE UNKNOWN?

HAVE YOU EVER PLAYED ROLEPLAYING GAMES? DO YOU KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PLAYER KNOWLEDGE AND CHARACTER KNOWLEDGE?


You may know this, but why would a muscle-bound russian in an alternate reality grail war know all of this?

>>8600221

>>8600237

>>8600230
I did admit I was fucking stupid when I said that. I mixed it up with her short life expectancy if she survives the Grail War.

>>8600130

Not true. A master can decide to summon Berserker if he so chooses.

>>8600116
>>8600133

You sit in your home and decide to try and make the mood appropriate.

Unfortunately you don't really have much that fits into the old vampire myth. So you wind up having to go to an old drug store and go through their Halloween decorations for extra atmosphere.

Finally sun sets and the moon rises in the sky... a full moon at that! The hour draws nearer... it's a good thing all your clocks are working. I mean. What retarded mage forgets to accurately tell time?

Anyway. Between the plastic bats, the sheep's blood you got from the local butcher and the tiny rats you impaled on little wooden spikes, your current lodgings looks legitimately gothic enough that you should be able to summon him.

Solemnly, the clock strikes 12... and you whisper your enchantments.

>>8600246

>>8600250
It just bothered me and I didn't see your next post then. Didn't want to just post what could be a random statement when I had an image to go with it.

>>8600260
Brace for impact!

>>8600237
>>8600246
so little detail in the small size... Sorry, does not impress me. Points for replying, though.

>>8600260
In b4 different servant

>>8600230
Shirou -> 17
Iliya -> 18
Rin -> 17.5
Sakura -> 16

>>8600288
Flandre Scarlet from Touhou...

HAHA HAHA OH GOD NO.

Anyway, please be it normal Dracula or something.

>>8600260
No. The class and servant itself is always decided beforehand. Again, read F/SN and Fate/Zero.

I honestly forgot which one states it.

Spoilers for UBW for anyone who is going to read it and has not already done so.

>>8600264
ok, i liked that one

NOW lets have some dracula in this house!

1. Summon Vlad as Berserker.
2. Do not activate Mad Enhancement.
3. Fight Grail War.
4. Get into shit.
5. 'My Servant is actually a Berserker!'
6. ?
7. HOLY GRAIL

You know... too bad Ahab is fictional, he' d make a great lancer.

>>8600130
Stop posting. You may be right about what class the Servant is summoned as. The amount of control the summoner has over that is negligible. But *which* servant you summon IS believed to be effected by what artifacts you have.

Example, Tohsaka Tokiomi, who managed to summon Gil by using the skin of the snake who stole his potion of immortality.

Gee, I wonder why Shirou, who had Avalon inside him, summoned King Arthur instead of Sir Bors or Ector?

>>8600288
With how OP persists in spelling it as steak, I wouldn't be surprised if we summon some legendary cook.

.>>8600280

How about this then.

>>8599242
>What Russian heroes of time are there...
vassili zaitsev

>>8600315
You tweak the summoning ritual in order to summon Berserker, but it only works if the servant have gone berserk at least once in their lifetime.

>>8600230
Played it.
Read it.

Now you do it.

>>8600328
because the grail is a dick

>>8600340

I don't think that's going to be a problem with us here though is it? Was there ever a time when Vlad the Impaler was sane?

>>8600260
inb4 Edward

>>8600337
but that looks western
>>8600335
LET THE HORY GRRAIR WARR BEGIN-ARU!

Would Mad Enhancement actually affect Vlad? Since he was ALWAYS CRAZY ALL THE TIME?

If this summoning actually goes as planned and we get the Servant we're expecting I will be very disappointed.

>>8600328
Maybe you should start reading the source material instead.

I have no proof on hand though, which is my greatest mistake. I just remember it being explicitly stated. Just as surely as it was stated that Gilgamesh > Arcueid (standard).

>>8600260
Inb4 female Caster or Rider who has NOTHING to do with vampires

>>8600389
forgot my image

>>8600260

It appears in front of you. A figure dressed in dark clothing, first apparently wrapped in a shroud of the dead. Slowly it pulls back to reveal a finely dressed body underneath. Bejeweled ornaments, fantastical designs and patterns are sewn into the cloth.

He looks at you with red eyes, demonized by the millions of people who have come to associate his name with the nightmares that people dream of. His air of calm, collected ambition is kept back from you however. Slowly he places a pair of dark colored spectacles over his eyes. There is no doubt the man before you is Drakule voevode.

"So... are you the man who summoned me?" he asks.

>>8600389
Interesting then Nasu said another self contradictory statement? Since he did say in an interview that Arc (standard) > 4-5 Servants together.

>>8600389
Why would Tokiomi have the skin anyway? Did he just keep it for sentimental value, or he had a snakeskin fetish?
He's not some hack mage like Rin (Even if her potential is excellent) or Shirou.

>>8600315
You obviously didn't read FZ yourself. Otherwise you'd remember that during the summoning of berserker Zouken told Kariya to add lines to the chant.

Also:
http://web.archive.org/web/20070331115024/fuyuki.pbwiki.com/Catalysts

>>8600402
Its on now.

>>8600128
It really is too bad that there have been no mention of norse heroes other than their weapons, Hrunting and Gram.

>>8600389
Nasu Word of God is notoriously unreliable. I'll stick to what's in the games and books, thank you.

>>8600402
hell yeah BITCH! are you ready to penetrate innocents with your great wood to gather mana?

Wait... gender please?

>>8600402
>"So... are you the man who summoned me?" he asks.

MANLY NOD.

>>8600451
Male.

>>8600402
identify ourself and ask for his servant class

>>8600461
you forgot MANLY BRUSH BEARD

>>8600445

Isn't Gram the sword used by Siegfried though? I though he was German?

>>8600461
This. With as much Zangeif angryface and muscle flexing as possible.

>>8600428
That's because ALL the mages believe in it. Its not like it wouldn't have been shot down if there were people who didn't believe in it.

>>8600472

I WOULD PRESUME WE DO THIS AFTER NODDING COMRADE!

You guys may be happy you have a manly servant now.
But you're going to regret it once the time for mana transfer comes around.

Depending on how capable our Einzbern is as a magus.

>>8600504
He can feast on the populace as much as he wants. Feeding solved.

>>8600425
He most likely didn't. Someone probably sold him some fake.

Seriously you can't possibly be sure what he got was any way real.

>>8600504

Considering that the Einzberns chose us, I'd assume we'd know at least how to do a standard non homosexual mana-transfer.

>>8600504
The only reason Shirou used mana transfer that way was because he WASN'T A GODDAMN MAGE.

>>8600539
yes
also we can impale some random fucks

>>8600529
Who knows? It might be real, they got the herb in Ataraxia, and Hercules was summoned via a piece of stone from his temple that the Einzberns stole.

>>8600491
>arguing for using source material
>arguing against source material

You just don't want to admit to mistake.

>>8600418
Gil is Cannonically 5x stronger than a normal servant.

>>8600564
>Hercules was summoned via a piece of stone from his temple that the Einzberns stole.
This isn't exactly a hard to find item just fyi. Some of the ruins still stand today.

>releasing an evil ancient vampire to feed on RED COMMUNIST RUSSIANS
i find this delicious

>>8600573
Then they would roughly be tiptoeing eachother.

Gil if fuckass huge strong but Marble Phantasm = Godmode and Easy Mode in one.

>>8600551
thats_the_joke.jpg

The funny thing is, you're right; I've only played Tsukihime.

For a guy who supposedly played FSN and Zero, you sure don't know much more about the games than I do.

>>8600418
No. He said Arc > Servant due to the fact she always gets powered up by the planet above the level of the opponent. He also said that two Servants could take her on if one of them blind sided her. Also, Gil = 5 Servants = 30% Arc.

>>8600600
Arcueid (standard 30%) is not Arcueid (Crimson Moon)

>>8600479
Sigfried is the german name of Sigurd or "Sigurðr" the same hero nonetheless.
The origin of his legends aren't exactly known but the vast majority of his legends are norse legends in old norse, and many argue that this is also the origin of said legends.

>>8600551
No. He was a mage. Even Rin said that a low level apprentice like him should be able to do it automatically and that something was obstructing the transfer due to the oddity of the Saber/Shirou bond (lolavalon).

>>8600612
>i dont want to admit being wrong therefore you know less than me
yes, of course. now go away troll.

>>8600612
Well, mind you Tsukihime characters are utter monsters compared to the F/SN ones. Arc (rape), Shiki (raperape), Len (superior magical being) and Ciel (only thing missing is True Magic) all are broken tier beings in the Nasuverse. And Melty Blood is turning canon soon... oh god... Wallachia, Nrvnsqr (yeah he was in Tsuki as well), W. Len, half the fakes, Aoko, etc.

Goddamn everyone has Reality Marbles, or even multiple Reality Marbles.

>>8600644
>implying he knows more after so many fuck ups

ahahahaha oh wow

>>8600644
Well I dunno, you were blatantly wrong about the catalysts, then compared it to Nasu WoG which is infamously flighty. Moreover, it was a simple fact that anyone with a cursory knowledge of the setting rather than just the plot of the games would know. Even a nub like me was aware that Gil is stronger than 30% Arc.

I was just disputing your blatantly wrong claim that catalysts have no effect on what you summon. After all, that's the single most important reason, besides similarity of disposition, (the default sorting algorithm for which Servants get which Masters) that Rin summoned Archer.

>>8600626
She can still use her Marble Phantasm. And arguing about Arc 100% is meaningless, she's Crimson Moon then, end of the world.

>>8600642
Shirou isn't a mage. He doesn't have an inherited magic circuit, he doesn't have any training. The thing that created his magic WAS Avalon.

You know all the mentions of Shirou being her sheath and shit and how his magic is MAKING SWORDS? It all comes from Avalon's presence in him.

>>8600670
Not exactly. Arc ? Why yes, she rapes almost everything ? Ciel ? Only defensive battle against normal Servants (and FYI, 5th war servants are far above normal). Shiki ? Not even defensive fight, also his eyes wouldn't probably work according to multiple accounts on nasu part.

Continue the story already OP!

>>8600418
>>8600600
Nasu did state that he could bring normal Arcueid down but what is even more crazy is that he claimed that he posed a threat to a full powered one as well.
Something along the lines of "It isn't that strange that Gilgamesh the king of heroes that the gods themselves could not kill would be able to pose a threat to Arcueid"
I don't know how his reasoning went but there you have it, I believe it he said soemthing like that at least.

Get our new servant a maid uniform, receive power up.

where did OP go?

Will you guys stop arguing about FSN canon?

WE'RE IN AN ALTERNATE UNIVERSE THE ONLY ''WORD OF GOD'' THAT MATTERS IS THE OP.

>>8600694
But his Origin word is also "Sword," isn't it?

It's true that Shirou was creating new magic circuits every time he tried to use magecraft, but wouldn't that indicate he's just a potential mage of very low ability, rather than a traditional one with an inherited Seal and family knowledge?

>>8600704
Nasu said both things that he can kill them and that he can't. Its a matter of knowledge on his part, and later Shiki is pretty much in the know.

Also while I dislike Ciel, that superior magic circuits, the ability to use divine scriptures, then the 7th Heaven, etc. make her formidable.

Careful though, other masters know of the maid uniform connection.

>>8600693
100% Arcueid is only as strong as a strong type (one of the most beings in that universe, but not unrivaled)

>>8600694
No. He has above normal number of cicuts (27). What you might mean is that he doesn't have a mage family crescent (I hope you know what that is), but that isn't mandatory, only very useful.

Avalon didn't create his magic, it greatly influenced him and his love for swords. It might even be the reason he didn't explode every time he created a circuit instead of turning it on.

Play. The. Damn. Game.

>>8600726
>>8600731
This and this. I want RUSSIAN GLORY and IMPALER MADMAN fighting crime already!

>>8600726
I'm guessing all this arguing over what should/should not happen in *his* AU setting scared him off.

>>8600736
People who dislike Ciel make me sad.

But yeah, it's kind of irrelevant to OP's topic anyway since this is for the lulz and not necessarily accurate to canon anyway.

and they may improve upon the technique.

>>8600746
She's told to be slightly weaker than CM, who was stated to be weaker than the rest of the TYPEs.

>>8600788
in b4 unlimited rin works

Vlad Ţepeş
>Abillities/Equipement
Vampiric - Immortality: A
Due to Vlaud's demonic nature. He is immune to any attack that is not holy or silver in nature.

Vampiric Ability - Drain Mana: B
Vlaud does not require direct blood from his master in order to sustain himself. He can drain mana from surrounding life forms and other masters/servants.

Vampiric Power - Limited Shapeshift: C
Vlaud can take the form of any wolf, bat or mist.

Vampiric Power - Children of the Night: C
Vlaud can mentally control any wolf or bat.

Heroic Form - Dutiful King: B
Vlaud is a contradiction of both being praised as a hero by his people but reviled as a demon everywhere else. As such is forced to live a cursed existence. By day, he loses all of his abilities (but his stats increase by 1 rank) and by night he requires twice as much mana to operate as a normal servant but re-gains all of his abilities.

>Stats
Strength: D
Endurance: C
Agility: A
Magical Energy: A
Luck: C
Noble Phantasm: B

>Skills
Terrifying/Noble Presence: A+
Vlaud can easily manipulate anyone who he is interacting with. He can overcome anyone with even the slightest amount of fear in their hearts.
Shadows: B
Vlaud can conceal himself relatively well in dim light and move without a sound.

>>8600732
Avalon's origin is "sword". Avalon's presence in a dying boy altered him through his life. That's why he is THE BONE OF HIS SWORD.

>>8600746
100% Arcueid in her corruption is Crimson Moon AKA Type-Moon AKA "I'll crash the moon in you bitch and you'll all die like it was predicted thousands of years ago and we can all have some post apocalyptic fun with the other Aristoteles"

>>8600777

Wus.

If you start a Quest you should be fully prepared to see it through to it's conclusion, should that come at the end of a day, a week, or the better part of year.

OH FUCK WHAT HAVE I SIGNED UP FOR?

>>8600732
Oh and yes he has potential. Just like any other normal person has magic potential.

>>8600808
no direct weapon? Is he a caster?

>>8600694
Swords or something related to it was his element, everyone has one magus or not, swords just happened to be a rather odd one.
His magic did not stem from Avalon at all, all Avalon did was save his life on multiple occasions were he would have normally died, hence the infamous "People die when they are killed" quote that he said when he pointed out that he had already broken that obvious rule several times, only that it wouldn't work again, as he said at one point.
It was his catalyst for Saber and a life saver.
His magic comes from his element and his way of life/ideal.
And yes he isn't a proper magus at all, I believe it was in UBW, Archer stated at one point when he was talking about Rin and her role as a tutor, that Rin as a properly tought magus would never understand the magic of an self-tought magic user that uses his "nervous system" instead of ordinary magic circuits.
His point was more or less that Shirou's magic was way different than ordinary magic even fundamental levels.

>>8600808
>Vampiric - Immortality: A
Due to Vlaud's demonic nature. He is immune to any attack that is not holy or silver in nature.

Oh god we won.

>>8600809
>>8600837
>implying that you can change someone's origin
>implying that everyone can be a mage

STOP MAKING SHIT UP

>>8600808
A lot of those names are pretty stupid and should in any sane setting be switched out for more generic terms.

PS: No you shouldn't edit it its fine for our purposes and intents.

>>8600808
You used the Sigurd chart as a template, amiright?
It's all cool.

>>8600823
Screencapped! Now, about AEUG Quest...

>>8600871
except the church will get involved LIKE THEY ALWAYS DO

>>8600773
>>8600461

You proceed to give Vlaud a MANLY NOD in his direction. He seems to acknowledge it as he doesn't bother to ask about it any further.

"Then I have been summoned? To participate in the Grail War? How interesting..." he moves up to you.

"If you are my master then speak. What is your plan of attack?"

>>8600823

Nvm. Cocks and that.

>>8600808

>Vampiric - Immortality: A
>Due to Vlaud's demonic nature. He is immune to any attack that is not holy or silver in nature.

USEFUL. But sure to bite us in the ass once someone get's his identity.

>Vampiric Ability - Drain Mana: B
>Vlaud does not require direct blood from his master in order to sustain himself. He can drain mana from surrounding life forms and other masters/servants.

Oh fuck yes. This is useful as well.

Vlaud is a contradiction of both being praised as a hero by his people but reviled as a demon everywhere else. As such is forced to live a cursed existence. By day, he loses all of his abilities (but his stats increase by 1 rank) and by night he requires twice as much mana to operate as a normal servant but re-gains all of his abilities.

Fair. We'd be doing most of our Servant hunting during the night anyway.

>checks skills

Oh cool, one dot in Obsfucate and Dominion.

THIS IS GOOD.

>>8600808
>Due to Vlaud's demonic nature. He is immune to any attack that is not holy or silver in nature.

Servant Archer better be fictional hero Van Hellsing, who wields a crossbow loaded with blessed silver bullets.

Lol the fact that his powers work only at night works out nicely for the purposes of a Master.
You'd have to be a total idiot to risk fighting in daylight.

>>8600899
First we scout the town at night, searching for other servants/masters, meanwhile Vlad can eat people because STRONG MEN EAT MUCH STRONG MEN EAT GOOD AND GET STRONGER!

At they we go incognito and try to hide our presence as much as we can. Also play Castlevania.

>>8600891

Survive the One Year War first, and then we'll talk.

>>8600402

"That I did. I assume you are Dracula, former lord of Wallachia?"

Make sure to say this in a calm and professional tone of voice, and to maintain eye contact with him.

>>8600872
>you cant change someones origin!!!
Your origin comes from what you are/were in your life/previous lives. Shirou was practically already dead when Avalon healed him. Its not his origin, its Avalon's origin he carries.

>not everyone can be a mage!!!
But that's explicitly stated for Waver Velvet's Family and Caster's Master in Fate/Zero.

>>8600808
>immortal
>a+ presence
FUCK YEAR, time for some justasplanned

I think we should try to gather up some wolves n bats

>>8600956
In the city? bad idea.

>>8600915

I'd be more worried about the possibility of Saber being FINALLY Joan of Arc in this scenario.


>>8600931

I'm not sure how MANLY it is to kill innocent women and children. Have Vlad simply absorb small amounts of Mana from everything around him apart from you, like Caster did in FSN.

But definately, it's time to take back the initiative and take to the streets. Have Lancer summon bats and wolves and use them to help search for servants, the animals sixth senses should help in this regard.

so... is he a caster or what?

either way, current plan should be gather information and night-strikes

I somehow have a hard time to Believe that Vlad is going to take orders easily.
We are talking about completely mad nobility here who according to legend studied the dark arts in pursuits of becoming his own god or something like that. (He ended up literally becoming an outcast of the world instead, as he chosed to not be a part of it wanting to be better than it)

>>8600949
FFS, I can't do this anymore. Time and time people prove you wrong, you make some new shit up. Also, anyone who picks up a magic book and knows how to use it can cast spells like Shinji, (who didn't even have magic circuits, which, as you SHOULD know, makes being a mage impossible) but that doesn't make you a mage.

>>8600991
BAH, THE BEAR EATS THE ELK AND TRUE MEN EAT BEAR.

But you're right, too much of a huss with all the bodies. I wonder what powers we ourselves have, and does Vlad have any Noble Phantasms?

In the meantime lets play Castlevania with him.

>>8600973
ditto this anon
though figuring out where we can get access to wolves and bats in the area should the need arise would be good

Have Vlad raid the blood banks.
Surely he could get some nourishment from that!

>>8601018
Oh, and once more, stop making shit up about changing origin.

>>8600973

Bat's then. Or possibly small wolves. Besides it's night, if they stay to the shadows then most people will just think they're stray dogs.

In any case, the worst that will happen is that curfew will be called and they'll be a police prescence on the streets, which I suspect will be more of an incovenience to the othe mages than to us.

>>8600931

"I see. Scout first shall we?" he moves to the window, opens it up and observes the night sky.

"You no doubt know who I am. But I, on the other hand, know nothing of you. If we are expected to... work together on this mission. Then tell me. Who are you?"

>>8601018
Actually if I remember correctly, those books were converted Magic Crests, and Fuckface was taught only how to active them, he didn't cast spells on his own.

Also there is a difference between Mage and a Magic-User.

>>8601049
>copy/paste of our earlier character description

>>8600808
Fuck yes.
If you actually include Sigfried into the story it could end up being quite funny.
Both being seemingly immortal, and if Sigfried would be a caster class he would be further resistant to his spells and Sigfried would lack holy and silver artifacts.
Both would have familiars in the shape of birds and bats.

Vlad would be more like the shadow that is all over the place and Sigfried would be the mighty hero in the middle, not being tainted.

>>8601047
I love that picture.

D. Sakura: "I'll rape a new asshole for this faggot"
Kotomine: "Fuck... Hah, at least I'll get laid."

>>8601055
Yeah, pretty much what I wanted to say, but I'm too tired to put up with this anymore.

Anyway thanks for correction.

>>8601049

Introduce ourselves as Volg Z. Einzbern, magi of the Einzbern family, BE MANLY ABOUT IT.

>>8601018
So what magic spells did Shinji cast again?

Spoiler: The answer is none. He cannot cast spells. The only one casting spells was Rider and he could only control Rider because his family was the one who MADE THE SERVANT/MASTER BOND AND COMMAND SPELLS.

You automatically assume that I'm saying anyone is a mage as soon as they try to cast spells. I never said that. It takes a long time for you to even learn basic magic and strengthen yourself enough to be able cast AND SURVIVE CASTING anything. This is an inheritable trait once you get it going.

jeez one would think that you'd actually know anything about f/sn before discussing it. you're really pathetic.

>>8601047
I was thinking we should find a new place to stay instead so we can have LEGIONS OF MINIONS without anyone noticing it normally.

You know, because if the mediator of the church thinks we are giving away too much he will just send all the other masters after us.

...and that would be bad.

>>8601091
Says the guy who thought catalysts had nothing to do with which servant is summoned, and are just sentimental trinkets. :o

>>8601076

Siegfried would either be Saber or Berzerker class. Wisdom of the Dragons Blood only goes so far.

>>8601091
>jeez one would think that you'd actually know anything about f/sn before discussing it. you're really pathetic.
>constantly makes shit up and is constantly proven wrong
You know, I usually tolerate trolls that can put up a discussion and aren't so obvious, but I'll decline after personal attack.

0/10

>>8601083

"I see... Volg Z. Einzbern is it? Very well then. For convenience sake simply refer to me as Lancer," he says as he proceeds to move to the door.

>>8601150
>thought
You assume I stopped believing in canon because you were trolling me. I assure you this is not true.

>>8601091
>only control Rider because

Sakura relinquished her Command Spells to him.

Anyway people...

Mage: person who has official magic training by the Mage's Association.

Magic User: any person who has learned how to activate/create magic circuits and uses magic.

Mage: Professional magic user.
Magic User: Casualfag.

>>8601091
>rider casting spells
>failing to notice that ANYONE can make a contract with a servant
>implying that he knows more about FSN

d'ohohohohoho

>>8601158
If you want to troll me by double posting you shouldn't make it so obvious that you're the same person as >>8601150

You really are pathetic.

>>8601159
so he's a lancer? no mention of said lance in stat list... mostly mundane weapon then? not that we're gonna do much direct conflict...

oh well BEGIN SCOUTING CITY

>>8601202
>thinking that only one person noticed he's full of bullshit
d'ohohohoho

Seriously, there are methods to compare IP. Do it.

WELP! I think I'm pretty much done for now.

Hold your seat for tomorrow! Tomorrow we introduce the NEXT servant of the Holy Grail war!

>>8601159

We follow him out. We spend the rest of the night searching for enemy masters, like us, trying to get an early lead.
WE STRIDE ACROSS THE CITY LIKE THE MANLY BADASSES WE ARE.

>>8601159
Can we connect our senses? I believe Kotomine could do that with Lancer in F/SN, we should do that as well, also some basic strategy: do not attack servants on sight, try to find their masters, if things heat up, retreat for now.

It is really nice that /tg/ is on easymodo now.

>>8601200
>>8601183
Mind looking at the book he carries. He doesn't actually carry the command spells, the book does.

Rider was definitely not happy being under Shinji. If he had carried the command spells she might've been able to break the contract. But he was holding a goddamn magic book for enslaving servants made by the people who created the command spells.

And yes anyone can make a contract, but the contract can be broken. See: Caster.

You just keep losing and losing every argument. Maybe you should just stop?

>>8601235
Around what time will you be here tomorrow?

>>8601235
Its naptime for me too. Good sir this was a pleasant surprise, I didn't think anything would come out of this quest thread and I was pleasantly disappointed, we actually are playing some sort of over the top Grail War, we're a crazy Russian bear-mage. And we can argue Nasuverse lore which is always fun.

Wish I had my

trollface:Nasuverse - /tg/:Roundtable picture.

>>8601271
I do believe I remember reading that creating a book like that costed a command spell each time.

>>8601243
What is our magic abillities, really?
Kotomine was a bit like a spirit doctor, and also had great control of certain bonds and so on, and it was because of that he could connect his servants visual senses with his own, all the others used other stuff like familliars and crystal balls and so on.

>>8601300

You mean this one?

So, shall we archive this? Just in case?

>>8601317
Uh, reformulate your post please, its incomprehensible.

>>8601271
>You just keep losing and losing every argument.
>been proved wrong multiple times across the thread

Yeah, no. Yes, the book has command spells on it. No one argued against that. You're the one that said that he got a contract with Rider BECAUSE he's part of the Matou family and now you're trying to mask that. No, you can't break the contract at any time: Caster used Rule Breaker.

>>8601271
>>8601317
Errr, I didn't say HE has the command spell, on his body I mean, only that he has them, from what I remember the books held the spells as I said in my previous post.

Anyway, Shinji is a cunt and cannot cast spells since he lacks any magic circuits. He has knowledge of magic, and/or how to activate magical items, but that's all.

>>8601320
see
>>8599225

We take our manly physique and further enhance it with strengthening magic, like Souchiro from the UBW route. Were basically Metal Zangief.

>>8601271
Contracts supplies mana
Command spells make them obey you

What Zouken did was that he transplanted a seal onto something that was not the host.

>>8601350
Before I forget. Servants can't terminate the contract whenever they want, only Masters can, but that's unrelated to the topic.

>>8601350
I said it was because he had the books, not because he was Matou.

No wonder you fags don't know anything when you can't read simple English.

>>8601340
Sorry, I'm tired and medicated. I should gtfo to bed.