You don't.

I can't answer, I'm dead.

Hard work and guts.

Kill it last week.

I haven't been this excited for a magic set since Time Spiral tbh.

There's something in exalted that protects against attacks like that.

Accelerator

You kill it the day before yesterday.

It couldn't have killed me yesterday.
IT WAS ALREADY DEAD.

Stat Emrakul

Five dots of Arcane, a little tactical savescumming, and lots of dumb luck.

Most surreal part of the whole business? Looting your own goddam corpse.

By killing it before yesterday!

With Just as Planned.

With the power of Earth.

>>8904756
RAVNICA! FUCK YEAH!

IZZET GUILD TO SAVE THE MOTHERFUCKING DAY, YEAH!

>>8904756
resurrect yourself on thursday.

Posthumously.

Kill it in the double-past

>>8904865

CAN'T UNHEAR

However, I think Izzet League would work better.

By unmaking it from reality tomorrow.

>>8904865
RAVNICA! FUCK YEAH!
SCIENCE IS THE ONLY WAY, YEAH!

ELDRAZI YOUR GAME IS THROUGH CAUSE NOW YOU HAVE TO ANSWER TOO,
RAVNICA! FUCK YEAH!

ever play chrono trigger? kill the thing 300 years in your past

>>8904900
Posthumously.

"Have gone to commit suicide, intend to return from grave Friday. Feed Cat!"

By taking your death into account and planning accordingly.

PUNCH YOUR WAY OUT OF HELL AND FEED THAT ASSHOLE HIS OWN HEAD!

>>8904756
What is this and where is the fluff?

>>8904966
WHAT YOU GOING TO DO WHEN WE COME FOR YOU NOW?

>>8905017
Posthumously.

>>8905106
It's the dream that we all share;
it's the hope for TOMORROW!

FUCK YEAH!

>>8905141
BOROS! FUCK YEAH

>>8905181
GOLGARI! FUCK YEAH

>>8905190
SELESNYA! FUCK YEAH

ANNIHILATOR 6? AND YOU SACKED ALL YOUR CHUMPS TO RELEASE THE KRAKEN?!
SAVRA SAYS HELLO - ANNIHILATOR BLOWBACK
*sack black & green chumps*
*sunglasses*
RAVINICA YEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAHHHHHHHHH!

THIS IS NOW A RAVNICA FUCK YEAH THREAD

GO GO GO

ORZHOV, FUCK YEAH

>>8905134
that was pretty epic

>>8905212
DIMIR! FUCK YEAH

But, seriously, Ravnica fuck yeah. I fucking LOVE the backstory to that set. The setting is just incredible. God damn Wizards for not doing more with it.

Also, Golgari will forever have a special place in my heart. <3

>>8904756

Kill it yesterday first.

>>8905240
ORZHOV! FUCK YEAH!

rolled 7, 12, 8 = 27

>>8905247
They can't do more with it, the guilds don't exist anymore.

>>8905256
IZZET! FUCK YEAH!

>>8905287
GRUUL! FUCK YEAH!

Hey guys, could you maybe keep the noise down, I'm trying to concentrate on being the BEST GUILD EVER.

>>8905298
AZORIUS! FUCK YEAH!

>>8905356
RAKDOS! FUCK YEAH!

>>8905355
>>8905363
SIMIC! FUCK YEAH

RAVNICA! FUCK YEAH!

Bring it Eldrazi!

After you destroy Zendikar and Mirrodin YOU'LL STAND NO CHANCE!

>>8905284
The magic super special snowflake Guildpact is dead; the clans have a non-magic one now.

>>8905247
Speaking of 'doing more with it'...

Guess who goes to Ravnica to get a planeswalker dream-team to kick Eldrazi ass?

Fuck yeah.

I've been testing a heavy-duty temporal displacement field. If something attacks me at any point within the past week, it gets fixed twice into the same set of coordinates. In effect, its future self is superimposed on its past self. This is invariably fatal, and very messy.

Do not fuck with the Centre for Circumferential Navigation.

BY KNOCKING IT INTO NEXT WEEK

>>8905455
I GUESS IT WOULD HELP IF I POSTED THE LINK, WOULDN'T IT?

http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/stf/84

>>8905504
Oh hi there Juzba, Izzet tinker! :)

>>8905431
>>8905284

What you mean?

Get the Shrike to kill it tomorrow.

And now for Simic nostalgia shenanigans:

"LOL, why would you play a 5/5 wall creature that can't block?"
2 turns later - 7/7 vesuan hydropon
next turn - 9/9 shrouded unblockable attacker

Also,
"Cytoshape your creature, copying my hydropon."
"Ok, what does that mean?"
"Your creature is now 0/0."
read card - FFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

>Gideon knew it would take many of his kind to thwart this menace. He'd heard of an organization that operated between planes. An organization of planeswalkers. He would travel to Ravnica and find them. Hopefully there would be something left of Zendikar when they got back. Gideon whispered a vow to return and planeswalked away.

Gametime! TO RAVNICA!

>>8904756
Moonwalk yesterday to the day after tommorow

God, I fucking miss Ravnica Block Constructed. Best block set since Onslaught Block Constructed.

>>8905355
>>8905380

I accidentally the whole guild

>>8905813
It's really funny when I assemble my infinite planeswalker engine using him.

>>8905735

Wait a second! If they're going back to Mirrodin...could it be?

Sweet Jesus, if they go back to Ravnica, I don't even know what I'm going to do. Explode with happiness, probably.

>>8905834

don't work anymore.

the one a turn rule for planeswalker abilities is now a rule for the ability not for the planeswalker.

>>8904756


The heck is that OP?

>>8905868
I'd rather visit the nephilim's home plane.

>>8905886
A creature that can kill planeswalkers.

>>8905905

no fuck you more ravnica

>>8905921
>A creature that can kill planes.

CORRECTED.

>>8905536
Aw, you got my hopes up for Guile/Lt Surge kicking ass and taking names.

A Ravnica dream team would be a fucking rape attack. It would be unstoppable.

>>8905978

This.

Fuck planeswalkers, the guild leaders will mess up some pussy Eldrazi no problems.

>>8905921
Woah.. is this card's avatar the official obliterator of game settings or something?

>>8905988

Um... no.

Most of the guilds' leadership is dead.

However, I would love to see an ex-Izzet Leaguage soldier be a character.

>>8905885
That's incorrect.

By using mines.

>>8905998

potential for hilarity if this Eldrazi card ever goes against Sisters of Stone Death is excellent

>>8905978
Niv-Mizzet is a planeswalker now, right? They could give him a card with a name like, "Niv-Mizzet, I'm Back Bitches"

>>8905940
Ravnica is the home of the Nephilim bro

>>8906068
Mark Rosewater says it might not be.

>>8906026
>Most of the guilds' leadership is dead.

EXPLAIN!

>>8905455

Did I miss something in Ravnica's story? I had thought that the entire plain was cut off from the multiverse by the guildpact. Like, its why their ghosts build up in their afterlife, they can't go anywhere. Are planeswalkers now able to get there freely?

>>8905921
If people actually start playing these I don't think I can resist making a Gather Specimens & Telemin Performance deck to screw with them.

>>8906122

Doesn't matter, rule of cool.

RAVNICA FUCK YEAH

Let's be honest here, we all know what's gonna happen here. The Eldrazi are gonna tear through mirrodin and it's fucking moons, and eat it all the fuck up. Bam. No more Mirrodin.

And then they're gonna swing down to Ravnica and get their shit fucked the hell up.

>>8906120

I don't know about most of them, but somebody (I forget who) killed at least two of the Sisters of Stone Death, if I recall correctly.

>>8906026
Like who?

>>8906122
Yeah, they "fixed" that at the end, didn't they?

And ISN'T JACE FROM RAVNICA IN THE FIRST PLACE or at least uses it as his home base?

>>8906035

Actually you are wrong.

306.5d Each planeswalker has a number of loyalty abilities, which are activated abilities with loyalty symbols in their costs. Loyalty abilities follow special rules: A player may activate a loyalty ability of a permanent he or she controls any time he or she has priority and the stack is empty during a main phase of his or her turn, but only if none of that permanent’s loyalty abilities have been activated that turn. See rule 606, “Loyalty Abilities.”

It's a comp rules issue that only comes up every once and a while.

>>8906145

You know, I wouldn't put it past them to make the next block a revisit set. First is Mirrodin getting eaten. Second is Ravnica. Third is a final stand at Dominaria or something along those lines.

>>8906068

What exactly were the Nephilim anyway? They remind me of the Eldrazi, honestly.

>>8906165
Jace is from an unknown plane. He does make Ravnica his home base though.

>>8906179
Mirrodin I welcome getting eaten. Ravnica has the most flavor of any of the planes they've made. I hope it is spared.

>>8906179

>>second is Ravnica owning all the Eldrazi

FTFY

>>8906179
Next block is all Mirroden, all the time. There's a ravager in my pants and artifacts are invited etc.

But considering Ravnica still seems important, and they're going back to Mirroden, I wouldn't be surprised if we go back to Rav in a couple block's time.

Baelfire him out of the weave.

I want nicol bolas to destroy kamigawa first.

>>8906170
It's gonna come up more now that Gideon becomes a creature pretty easily.

>>8906035
Shut the fuck up.

I started magic during Mirrodin, so it holds a special place in my heart, and Ravnica more or less sealed the deal for me. Does anyone else, though, feel totally indifferent about Kamigawa? Like, its the set I, hands down, care least about.

>>8906232
DELICIOUS FLAVOR MUST EAT

>>8906278

I like it, but then I am a massive weeaboo faggot.

Also, self-deprecating on the innerbuts.

>>8906170
It says an a ability of that permanent. Even if you play a new planewalker thats the same as the old one it's still a new permenent.

>>8906170
You'll notice, though, that if you check out rule 606, they've changed it so Loyalty Abilities of a permanent can only be activated once per turn no matter what, where before the number of activations were limited to one under the rule for the card type Planeswalker.

>606.3. A player may activate a loyalty ability of a permanent he or she controls any time he or she has priority and the stack is empty during a main phase of his or her turn, but only if no player has previously activated a loyalty ability of that permanent that turn.

Sorcery speed only, and only once per turn, limited by permanent. Sorry, dude.

>>8906278

Fuck Kamigawa, honestly.

The whole japanese vibe never did anything for me. We still have a box sitting in our FLGS; it's been there for three years. No one's buying it, and good riddance.

If Ravnica gets eaten by these fucks I will shed manly tears, it's by far the coolest plane they've done so far.

>>8906271
I thought he went to do that at the end of Future Sight?

>>8906278
Yup. Some of it was ok, but it felt like they were trying too hard.

>>8906278
I've found over the years that Kamigawa was a sleeper set.

By itself it was meh...but it has a lot of cards in it that have become much more interesting when used in conjunction with other sets.

Pic related.

I've not been involved since Invasion. Has the game continued into the descending spiral of power creepan or has it improved?

>>8906179
>You know, I wouldn't put it past them to make the next block a revisit set. First is Mirrodin getting eaten. Second is Ravnica kicking Eldrazi through goal posts. Third is a END-ZONE DISCO PARTY EVERYONE'S INVITED BBQ ELDRAZI SNACKERS FOR EVERYONE at Dominaria. Epic party trashes Dominaria, Ravinica can't help clean up, has to "help friend move today." FIXED.

>>8906314

um... you quoting something that agrees with you.

>>8906314
Aaaand in my confusion in trying to figure out that chain of links, I responded to a guy who was actually right about the rules issue.

Still, the point stands; they fixed the planeswalker/Kraj infinite trick.

>>8906278
It was okay, but any good it did was overshadowed in my mind by Umezawa's Jitte, aka The Jit and That Fucking Card Again.

I don't care how many counters there are for that stupid thing. Soon as it hits the board, the game is no longer fun. The other guy now has a permanent trollface on, and by some grim twist of fate the first Shatter or Naturalize in your deck is five cards from the bottom. I almost danced when that bloody thing was cycled out of Standard.

>>8906392
>Double striker with Jitte
>start killing one player a turn
what is this i don't even

jitte fucker

>>8906359

Right, my bad. Thanks for fixing my typo.

Kamigawa was mostly terrible. The one good thing was the introduction of a great ability named Bushido. Only one problem. IT'S NAMED BUSHIDO. Way to make an evergreen-worthy ability unusable outside of any other set until the next Big Eldrazi In Little China block.

>>8906476
Man, I'm really hoping you're actually trying to talk about Ninjutsu here, because Bushido was just an inverted rehash of Flanking while Ninjutsu was fucking awesome.

>>8906519

It was s sweet mechanic that was used in like, what, five cards total? Its like Transmute. Great in theory but ruined by the fact that it wasn't where it needed to be.

>>8906519
Ninjitsu needed to be used during the entire set instead of just like 5-6 cards.

Underexposed awesome ability.

>>8906540
Yeah, most of why it was used on so few was that they could only really put it on Ninjas, which were only like, 8 cards in blue and black.

Same went for Transmute, actually; it was in a large set (Ravnica as compared to Betrayers), so it got 13 cards, but at least it has a name that means they can actually reuse it for stuff (like Tolaria West).

Kamigawa had some cool cards...that really just weren't good at the time they were released.

>>8906519
Yeah, Ninjitsu was fun, but more of as a flavorful block ability. Bushido is the most elegant version of a creature vs. creature ability that they've printed, and it really could be sprinkled on cards occasionally in any setting. An ability that says "this creature is superior at creature vs. creature combat" - how is a pumping ability like this not in the meta-game? It's clean elegant, and doesn't suffer from insta-killing dread skeleton type cards like flanking. Just seems like a better version of flanking type negative abilities that could scale (Bushido 2-3, etc) without becoming as a Flanking 3 would be. More design space, etc.

I beat it by surviving..

>without becoming as a powerful as Flanking 3 would be
fixed.
and yeah, IB4 wither.

>>8906742

Wait, so does this spoil the end of the entire set already? :\

>>8906825
What, the Eldrazi rape the shit out of Zendikar, but Gideon pulls some bullshit at the last moment? Probably.

>>8906742
Did he just punch out an Eldrazi?

>>8906904
If so he'll immediately become the most badass of the Planeswalkers.

He needs a new outfit though.

>>8906904
<--- Animated reenactment

Wait so no allies in this set?

The Orb O'Insight let me down :(

>>8906742
Why hello there.

>>8907167
>>8906742
HAHAHAHA

>>8907167
AHAHAHA oh man, forgot about you

>>8907124
nope, no allies, no landfall, and no traps, not sure about quests, but i think those are out too.

By killing it 35 minutes ago.

This set is going to be absolute bullshit. Why must they always fuck over the previous sets. Hey guys YOU HAVE TO BUY NEW CARDS NAO

>>8907234

That decimated my heart. Fucking Timmies ruin everything

>The "level up" mechanic is not based on the Wizards of the Coast staff promotion process, nor vice versa.
Haha, good one WotC.

>[contraption joke]
:C

>>8904756
Easy. If it doesn't exist, it can't kill you.

>>8907234
0 Quests.
4 Surrakar.

>>8905735

Funny because I feel like making a deck that circles Gideon, just because he is that cool.

plunge into darkness + near death experience = instant win

>>8907325
Yeah, i really would have liked to see landfall explored more, it felt like they were just getting started. But there's big space squids to summon now! Preorder those boxes! Or keep drafting other sets and skip this one - that's my plan.

>>8907234

>invent allies, landfall, quest
>disregard that, make 20/20 creatures instead and D&D creatures.

RAEG

What's Annihilator 6 do?

rolled 7, 7, 1 = 15

>>8907436
When it attacks, defending player sacrifices six permanents.

By not time traveling back to yesterday. I'm here today, which makes me invincible as far as it's concerned. The nice thing about time is that the present is the logical sum of the past. Even something that can alter time can't change that.

If a time traveler threatens to go back and kill you yesterday, remind him that he's already failed if you're around to hear the threat.

>>8907419
D&D creatures? Brb, checking the Orb for Beholders.

>>8907451

>rewind.jpg

>>8907451
Your logic is flawed sir. He is threatening to do it, he has not yet traveled back in time. Soon you may simply stop existing.

>>8907436

Probably nothing, because you will have won by the time they play the card. And if the game does go that long you may very well have an answer for it by then anyhow.

>>8907392
If I could draft Ravnica (FUCK YEAH!) I so would.

>>8907513
Well it would seem one of the major mechanics of this series is mana farming to be able to get out these big baddies

>>8907419
Landfall was cool but WHAT THE FUCK WOTC?!!

WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU GETTING RID OF THE FULL ART LANDS?!

There is NO reason they could not just make them the norm like they did with the new card style back when Mirrodin hit.

It is a change that only BENEFITS the game.

>>8907580

This reminds me: anyone got the full pictures?

>>8904756


We kill it the day before yesterday.

>>8907625
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/arcana/251

http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/arcana/252

http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/arcana/253

http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/arcana/254

http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/arcana/255

You kill it before it kills you.

>>8907715

Thank you.

>>8906825
>>8906891
No. What that image portrays is covered here.
>http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/stf/84
It was already linked by >>8905536

>>8904756

BRING it!

gather specimens!

>>8908019
> protection from colored spells

>>8908217
oblivion ring isnt a spell - when it resolves and the ability triggers, it's a permanent.

>>8908259
Learn2Magic, everything except land is considered a spell.

>>8908300
sup retard.

Oblivion ring ON THE STACK IS A SPELL. However once it resolves and it's ability triggers, it is merely a permanent. Fucking Amateurs.

>>8908300
only things on the stack are spells,
dont try and correct people on the rules when you do not know the rules,
fuck

>>8908300
Yeah, it's obviously a spell when being cast - like every F'in non-land card in the game. I was clearly clarifying the play mechanics of what happens when the spell resolves and the resulting permanent triggers the effect that can indeed target and exile the eldrazi. Specific enough for you? Let me know if you need any other basic game mechanics clarified.

>>8908300

No it's considered a spell when it's on the stack, everything IN PLAY is a PERMANENT, not a spell. A creature is a creature permanent, on the stack it's a creature spell. Same with everything else.

Oblivion ring on stack>resolves>becomes enchantment permanent and ability triggers.

>How do you beat something that kills you yesterday?

Easy, you do away with the limitations of sanity and obtain tactical perception. Dont you read Supergod?

>>8904756

Beat your opponent first. Tell him if he ever summons an Eldrazi you will rip his flesh off with his cards. If he does it anyways, catch yourself on fire and start screaming like a banshee.

>>8909369
Orrrr... you touch the untouchable, break the unbreakable

ϱ ϱ fight da powa

How am I the first one to say kill it tomorrow?

Doomed Necromancer/Hells Caretaker
Bury Emrakul.

In response to triggered graveyard shuffle ability: Sac DN/HC

Pul Emrakul into play.

Laugh.

(dunno what formats this is legal in cept "whatever". Still funny)