and then Jaws appears

Fuck off Yukari, no one wants to see your holiday snaps.

This could work.
Fantasy characters in a ruined future setting that [spoilersdontworkon/tg/]is actually the future of their own world[/spoilersdontworkon/tg/]

But with decent plotting and good players/GM who don't try to steal anything from chrono trigger, it could work.

Fuck yeah! Euro /v-tg/ ;_;

>>8933399 Translation
>Even though I like touhou, I'm tired of someone trying to force it until it's turned into an idol of hate. I'm derailing your random imagedump for discussion of a setting.

But the setting itself is shit.

>>8933327
>lying that touhou spam is related

>>8933433
So, this setting is clearly devoid of humans, cities are abandoned and overgrown/flooded. Few signs of war though.

This looks like a Vanishing to me. Where did those people go?
[spoilersdontworkon/tg/]into the past[/spoilersdontworkon/tg/]

>>8933470
To a time where touhou didn't exist on /tg/. Probably around early 08, so they can ruin it earlier.

Entire thread reeks of the samefag spamming to get touhou hated. Even the sages. Even >>8933489
Inb4 he replies "we all always hated it"

Remove Yukari from every image here and you've got a nice setting image for a post apocalyptic game. One that isn't the usual dust and sand Mad Max set up.

>>8933563
We didn't hate it back then. It was simply never discussed or unknown to most of us.

>>8933572
A beautiful postapocalyptic world.

>>8933904
It isn't beautiful without Rei ;_;

A good question would be what would any planes that are directly tied to the state of the current world (in 4e, the Feywild and Shadowfell) be like in this kind of postapocalypse.

>>8933950
aside from a lack of sentient civilisation all is well.
Nature is still in control. If anything, the feywild should be blooming.

This artist has a serious fucking fetish for traffic lights.

Seriously, >>8933418
There's not even a junction, why the hell would you need traffic lights?

>>8933962
But the Feywild also mirrors the beauty and grace of civilisation in the form of the Eladrin Courts. With no people, Eladrin would possibly cease to exist.
Likewise towns in the Shadowfell are already twisted and decayed ruins stalked by nightmares. What happens after the collapse when the nightmares the Shadowfell mirrors have actually happened and are long gone?

>>8934044
Better question is why they're still active in the first place in an apocalyptic world.

Fossil fuel and nuclear power plants wouldn't run without human input, and they have no signs of being self-powered by solar cells or wind turbines.

>>8934097
All of humanity was destroyed to power meaningless appliances for eternity with their souls. That is their sentence for creating touhou.

rolled 19 = 19

>>8933399

So, like Psyren?

>>8934044
*ticks another item off my list of fetishes that could only happen in japan*

But why is there still electricity?

>>8934312
The lights always shine.

>>8933489
> To a time where touhou didn't exist on /tg/. Probably around early 08, so they can ruin it earlier.
So, for posts 1 through 19? Because guess what post 20 was.

"She killed an entire world."

"Just so she had somewhere to store her weapons.

>>8934558

>>8934516
>>8934312
Because Yokohama Kaidashi Kikou.

>>8933399
>Fantasy characters in a ruined future setting that [spoilersdontworkon/tg/]is actually the future of their own world[/spoilersdontworkon/tg

so, Scrapped Princess?

>>8934694

Stop that. Yukari is a pure and sweet 17 year old girl, all these rumours about her being god awfully powerful are just hype.

Anyway, Yukari is more subtle then that and doesn't win her battles through direct application of force. A beautiful intellect, the embodiment of all danmaku is supposed to represent.

>>8934783
Except when she gets bored and drops a subway train or nuke on someone.

>>8934783
I dunno, where DOES Yukari get all those bent traffic signs from? Those look like suspiciously empty worlds, you know...

>>8934849
>nuke on someone.

thats Utsuho

>>8934713

>>8934849

>nuke on someone.

sure is Chado doujin around here.

I always thought Gensokyo would make a decent Mount Olympus style home of the gods, where all the touhous were just deities among their kind, or among groups of people. Mystia would be deity (or just ruler) of the night sparrows, which I imagine to be an evolved form of harpy with more song powers.

Characters like Reimu or Sanae would have started out as humans and taken the interest of established members of the pantheon enough that they were elevated, and now serve as guardians of the human race (since gods friendly to humans are vastly outnumbered by the unfriendly ones). Marisa would have stolen her place in the pantheon, of course, although she'll insist she's just borrowing it.

For the world setting, then, you can take Gensokyo and expand it. Human Village becomes Human Kingdom - surrounded on all sides by either untamed magical wilderness, a kingdom ruled by vampires, and the mountainous region inhabited by the flying monsters among others.

>>8934864
>yuka vs yukari

>drops a nuke

>>8934979
>I always thought Gensokyo would make a decent Mount Olympus style home of the gods, where all the touhous were just deities among their kind, or among groups of people.

you know, this is kinda explored in Mountain of Faith, with Gods living on/near the Youkai Mountain

>>8934859

I figure she just takes damaged traffic signs from isolated country roads nearby or something, she may put them back after, who knows.

It's also worth considering is there are people in her subway train spellcard or if it's danmaku designed to look like a subway train. The idea of people seeing a momentary flash of a fight between two young girls while passing through a tunnel is amusing.

These pics really remind me of Yokohama Shopping Trip. That was also a peaceful post-apocalyptic setting, with several immortal robots around the humans who were just not reproducing very rapidly (population shrinking fast). Everything lush and green, even the submerged cities still had power.

>>8935091
no no no, traffic signs etc BECOME mysteriously damaged because of yukari.
Also, she secretly pads her bra.
With single socks stolen from sock drawers around the world.
YES, GENTLEMEN. SHE IS THAT EVIL. SHE IS THE REASON FOR MISSING SOCKS.

>>8934979

I've always liked the setting more or less as it is, a haven for creatures of faith and dreams who were growing weak in a world dominated with science and fact. Some doujins briefly mention the idea that Gensokyo may not be the only one of it's kind and others like Shangri-La and Eden still exist for youkai of other regions.

>>8935091

>>8935153

that devious weirdo youkai.

>>8935153

FUCK

brb goin' to Gensokyo to get my socks back.

>>8934979
And then beyond these places, if a group is lucky or good enough to survive, they might reach the court of the daughter of the moon, or the netherworld, or they might have to travel deep underground to save the world from nuclear fusion.

Take out the spell card system and unlimited powers - those are only used by the gods to ensure they don't destroy all creation. Then you have a setting with pretty much unlimited potential, and could run virtually any system or type of adventure there.

>>8933327
Spoilers: This is what the outside world really looks like. Everything about civilization still blooming and sprawling is nothing more than the dream perspective of those of Gensokyo.

>>8935282

More like it's Maribel dreaming of Yukari dreaming of Maribel dreaming of...

>>8935310
Oh god stop it.

>>8935408
We've entered an endless recursion of hats.

>>8935408

>>8935243

Oh boy, can we have fight scenes now?

>>8935243
>run virtually any system or type of adventure there.

Even sci-fi?

>>8935453
orangebluecontrast.jpg

>>8935472
I don't get it.

>>8935446

there there Renko, at least you have the best hat in Touhou...

>>8935453

Sure, why not.

>>8935453

fights you say?

>>8935482

http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/11/27/orangeblue-contrast-in-movie-posters/

>>8935446
poor side character touhous.

>>8935482
orange-blue contrast is used in a lot of things

specially shitty movies

Sakuya vs Meiling (this is what it's really like in the games!)

>>8935453
That's not a very safe place to fight.

>>8935519
Chen vs Rin

>>8935486
I think Koishi has a nice hat, but it's pretty much Renko's with a bow, which is like iku's without the ribbons.

Remilia vs Flandre

Flandre vs Koishi

>>8935431

Parasol tier is best tier, hats and bows can get the fuck out.

>>8935614
You are now aware that poofy mob caps (Yukari, Chen, Ran, Remilia, Flandre, Patchouli) are going out of style in Gensokyo and being replaced by hard-brimmed black hats (Tenshi, Iku, Koishi).

>>8935453

Similar to your pic.

>>8935661

though a bit cramped.

Some hats are eternally silly.

>>8935661
I agree.

>>8935677

you are now aware that all those characters start out as outsiders to Gensokyo where fashion is different.

>>8935703
Are you making fun of people's hats? You'll go to hell if you keep making fun of people's hats, you know!

>>8935752

Hats are very important to a young Gensokyo girl.

>>8935752
Maybe. The question is, how far are we to extend the definition of a hat?

Some things that aren't necessarily hats do also have more than enough frills.

Dat's it, postan more fight scenes

Best hat. It can carry a full bento.

>>8935793
Welp there goes that little moe blob of darkness.

>>8935793

I don't get a hat... or even a ribbon. Stupid ZUN can just go die! Jerk!

>>8935785

That image makes her bow look more like a bonnet. Bow faction is pretty chill too, though hats are good too.

No accessories what so ever means you are a shitty Touhou. Looking at you Kaguya.

>>8935803
more like a tiny house

>>8935829

Not cool, Marisa.

>>8935842
What do you mean "no accessories"!

>>8935867

Keine's hat has many applications.

>>8935829

>>8935870

I thought all people looted the body after they were done?

>>8935831
You have blonde hair (even though you're Palestinian) and elf ears.

That's something.

Girls do their best now and are preparing. Please watch warmly until they are ready.

>>8935901
Oh god, what did you do to my Parsee?

>>8935901
ZUN just wanted to make her clothing have the feeling. He probably just failed miserably overall.

>>8935889

>>8935870

Don't worry, she gets what's coming to her

Queen of Gaps, do you have enough frills?

>>8935901
can you post the "generic blonde elf" version?

>>8935958
Naming is for ⑨s.

>>8935901
>Palestinian
No, Farsi. Hence the name, Parsi/Parsee.

>>8935999

>>8936003
(Saging because this thread isn't about me.) And shut up, you generic human. Can you even do danmaku at all? No? That's what I thought.

>>8936066

>yesimjealous.jpg

>>8935901
She doesn't have her elf ears here.

>>8936046

>>8936086

>>8936115

>>8936066

>>8936158

Can't say I'm too fond of bridge troll Alice.

>>8936000
What are you trying to get at human?

>>8936187

Sigh. Going through my Utsuho pics makes me realize I really need to start practicing my shootemups again. I haven't even beaten any of the games, not even EoSD ;_;

>>8936219

I like the idea of this character as a recurring enemy. Your first meeting is when you're hired to stop the unseasonable cold in an area. You meet her, she attacks you right away. If you win, the cold goes away and you can go ahead on your way.

Later, the ice fairy seeks you out for revenge. "I'm stronger than I was before!" From there you have comical options (like her being exactly the same as before, or slipping on icy ground and starting to cry) or you can play it as she said: she's stronger and she has a chance of beating the group.

Then there's Lily White, who announces every spring with a shower of danmaku. And the humans don't appreciate it as houses are destroyed, fields are ravaged, and mayhem and destruction follow her path (which changes from year to year, so they can't predict it).

>>8936336

It's nice to dream, Meiling, but Reimu can do martial arts too, her original game had her crescent kicking her balls.

>>8936219
I can't even get past stage 4 on any of the games in Normal difficulty without continues. Although I can beat most of the story modes in the fighting games on Lunatic (even though that doesn't count).

(I actually have gotten past Reisen on Normal in IN but that doesn't count either)

>>8936336

>>8936289

[spoilersdon'tworkon/tg/] Actually, I am forcing myself to play through the game on Hard mode because that is the arcade difficulty. Call it Gamer's Honor or whatever

The main issue, though, is that I haven't actually *played* any of the games lately. School, friends, and of course 4chan keep distracting me, hehe [/spoilersdon'tworkon/tg/]

>>8935453

A bit late but, how about a fight video?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMlZ75imszY&hd=1

Goes well with the image in >>8935999

>>8936396
And on the other hand, Yukari would make an excellent BBEG. You know you can't beat her through any means, and she knows that you know, but she's just strange and bored enough that you could make her give up in a number of ways.

>>8936468

>>8936396

I like that. After the first encounter in Heroic tier, she reappears every few levels throughout paragon and epic tiers and in the end has an level 30 showdown with the players.

>>8935243
HOLY SHIT! This is the awesomest thing I have witnessed in days!!!!

>>8936551

>>8936624

>>8936484

Oh boy, a fight video is fine too!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2H8pL8gTXo

>>8936498

it's not uncommon for Yukari to lose fights from time to time, she's not some power house melee machine like Suika or Yuka. Yukari was never meant to be a direct power kind of character, she's a schemer by nature and rarely seems to fight seriously because of it. It's described in Perfect Memento that when Yukari fights she usually does so with a eerie smile and amused attitude, even when she loses. She's more likely to use the lose to her own ends and a fair number of the others are catching on to how frustrating Yukari is in a fight, like the result doesn't really matter to her, it's just part of a elaborate twisty scheme.

Anyone using Yukari as a power house BBEG is doing it wrong, sure she's strong and frightening, but her strength is supposed to be in her twisted intellect and completely out of the box schemes that seem to defy logic. A very long term planner ideally if I were to use Yukari, she'd be a character who would both at the same time seem like a villain AND support.

>>8936723
I'm of the camp that Yukari's losses are the fault of using the spellcard system for everything as opposed to just plain fighting. Her power stretches across so much that you can't really do anything without falling into a gap for eternity.

Which is why I'm saying, the only confrontation you'd have with her is a debate or something that isn't really a confrontation, through which she realizes that what she's doing could be accomplished without harming <the thing you want to keep her away from>.

Where as Ran is more of a direct straight laced intellect much like a super computer, she is able to do extremely complex mathematics in her head without problem, but she isn't used to thinking outside of normal logical parameters. So she wastes much of her time working out the width of rivers using math, that aside she's good support for her master, both strong, loyal and intelligent.

>>8936803

but that's kind of the point, even without the spell card system in place, Yukari isn't the type to directly just kill or gap someone out of known existence. She's beyond that to a level where using her opponent towards her own ends is much more useful or even just amusing. Any fight with her would be on her terms with multiple branching plans depending on how the 'fight' goes. If they are genuinely threatening to her she could easily escape or manipulate her way out of the problem, it's pretty much her nature but she's not really someone you can directly compare power against because her power isn't a direct one, much like she herself isn't the kind of person to use direct force unless it serves a ultimate purpose.

>>8936803
Didn't Yukari invent the spellcard system herself to keep things under control in Gensokyo?

>>8936161
>NVIDIA

Wat.

>>8936817
So her Wisdom isn't as up to par as her Intelligence.

>>8936923
Reimu did.

>>8936899
But then we run into the same problem. Is she manipulating people as we know it, or closing the border between the idea that they should do what Yukari wants them to do and what they want to do?

>>8936938

It was a proposal from Yukari I think, that Reimu implemented.

>>8936933

Sort of, I wouldn't say Ran isn't wise, but it's a personality difference. Can of like natures from oWoD, Ran is pretty wise in a sense, she's more diplomatic then her master. I suppose you might say that ironically for a fox youkai, Ran is pretty honest and straight forward about things, whether that's because Yukari made her like that, or if it's just her personality I don't know, but she's just doesn't seem the scheming type.

>>8936938
No she didn't. It was Yukari. Reimu derives her power from the Barriers.. Which are an integral part of Gensokyo, and therefore an invention of Yukari.

>>8936803
The problem is that not everything has borders. Kaguya would probably wipe the floor with Yukari in a serious fight because of her control over eternity... whereas in a danmaku battle border manipulation is much more useful.

I'd go so far as to say this: She avoids fighting for anything she really wants unless she knows she will win. Which is why she brought Reimu along with her to face Kaguya that time, or why you don't see her as an opponent in Tenshi's scenario in Scarlet Weather Rhapsody - she avoided fighting because Tenshi decided to get serious, and there was a chance of losing (and she didn't want to lose to Tenshi).

Whereas on the other hand, even though she lost to [Reimu/Marisa/Sakuya] after the events of PCB, she didn't mind because she was just testing the strength of these amusing humans.

That said, without spellcard rules most anyone who made Yukari an enemy would find themselves moving between the border of life and death before they knew it, unless they're a stage 6 boss, final EX boss, or Tewi.

>>8936715

>>8936988

I think ZUN would have us beleive that some borders are much harder for Yukari to manipulate then others, just because Yukari's power is to manipulate borders doesn't mean she can easily do it all the time, it took some effort to get to the moon after all.

Personally I like to think Yukari just plans that far ahead with a dangerous insight into how people are going to react and how she can lead them to move in ways she wants and then plans further on the off chance they react in a different way and how to correct it. I see her sitting on a dozen different schemes at once watching them progress and occasionally making appearances to correct things she hadn't taken into account.

Of course, it's a fan view of everything. Yukari could just be very lazy and run the odd twisted scheme when needed.

>>8937032

>>8937027
>The problem is that not everything has borders.

And a thousand powerlevelfags cried out in rage.

>>8937084

>>8936723
>completely out of the box schemes that seem to defy logic
Logic doesn't really apply to Yukari.

Borders are frightening when they stop existing for certain people.

>>8937027

Though I imagine Yukari's idea of a enemy would be a bit different from others, where Remilia might destroy someone for being disrespectful towards her, Yukari sees things in a different way, the opponents she seems to really dislike are people like Tenshi who are outsiders that look down on youkai. I think something like celestial arrogance could really get on her nerves in the same way the Lunarians kind of pissed her off, but she's smart enough as you say to know not to fight such strong opponents directly. Lunarian's have bullshit technology mixed with magic, Celestials are youkai kryptonite and strong as hell to boot.

>>8937027
>The problem is that not everything has borders.
examples please

>>8937086

power level fags have been fucking up characters for too long, it's one thing to say Yukari is the MOTHER FUCKING FLASH in jest, but when she's made out as some unbeatable god of Touhou it gets rather grating, especially when the whole setting follows a fairy tale logic that allows anyone to do practically anything given enough story for it.

>>8937027
PCB extra was never completed in canon if you bothered to read about it.

So that means 1(possibly 2) unbeaten bosses in all of canon. One being Yukari, the other being Suika(as it is seemingly her scenario that's the true one)

>>8937171
Already gave you the best example: Kaguya's power is manipulation of eternity. Eternity is infinite and therefore has no borders. ZUN has already said that Kaguya is OP; don't bother him about it.

>>8937220
>but when she's made out as some unbeatable god of Touhou it gets rather grating

That's right, there can only be one.

>>8937273

THE PROBLEM IS THAT EVERY THING A HAS A BORDER THAT SEPARATES A FROM NOT-A, ELSEWISE A WOULDN'T BE A DISTINCT THING.

>>8937273
It's implied that Kaguya is not actually as powerful as Eirin.

>>8937273
Yeah, but the reason I was looking for other examples is because everything finite has a border. Thus anything not infinite is bordertastic.

>>8937225

Pretty such SWR is supposed to be almost entirely canon aside from moments like Meiling's dream sequence storyline, but basically each scenario was a different part of the day.

The problem is that people put too much importance on danmaku battles, these aren't serious fights for the most part and even when they are they are done with danmaku duelling rules which are designed so the weak can challenge the strong.

>>8937171
Can Yukari reach into the border between orgasm and blue balls?

>>8937328

It's also implied that Moon Bitches are successors to Eirin. Take that how you like.

>>8935201
So, I'm kind of late to this thread, but I just wanted to say that Touhou or no Touhou, this is a fucking awesome picture.

So yeah.

>>8937356
What do YOU think?

>>8937323
But is Yukari's mastery of borders enough to grasp those really, REALLY tenuous borders?

That's the question.

I like to think of Yukari as reasonably strong, but not unreasonably omnipotent. It's more fun to enjoy the series this way for me.

>>8937077

>I think ZUN would have us beleive that some borders are much harder for Yukari to manipulate then others, just because Yukari's power is to manipulate borders doesn't mean she can easily do it all the time, it took some effort to get to the moon after all.

I'm sticking with this. It means Yukari can still be all levels of broken, but would have problems trying to out do people at manipulating their own speciality.

>>8937373
We do not discuss the moon bitches.

>>8937225
Both Suika and Yukari were defeated multiple times within Scarlet Weather Rhapsody.

I'm not sure where people get "this is the canon ending" for these games - I haven't seen anything definitive one way or another for any of the game's endings.

>>8937400
>high heels

No.

>>8937225
SSiB is canon, and the whole story is Yukari getting back at the moon for being beaten before, and stealing a bottle of ancient sake because thats really the only way she can get back at them.

>>8937410
>I like to think of Yukari as reasonably strong

isnt that how is suppose to be? her power is compared to the power of gods, by logic the frog or the guncannon are at her powerlevel, probably more and at Shinki level, but still not the end of everything, because thats the job of this moonbitch >>8937304

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>>8937410

>But is Yukari's mastery of borders enough to grasp those really, REALLY tenuous borders?

I'd say yes because anything is possible in Gensokyo, it's part of the point, that said just because you can doesn't mean it's easy, the hardest ones would likely require special narrative circumstances, in a sense it's easier to think of Gensokyo as a fairy tale Discworld, getting big things done requires a story to be present and roles to be picked out.

I get the feeling Yukari is basically just what the average person would be, given near-godlike powers. That is, she's unbelievably lazy and only really does stuff that she thinks is funny.
I mean, really, if you were her, don't tell me you wouldn't spend your whole time just dicking around messing with the other residents just because you can.

>>8937410
http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Perfect_Cherry_Blossom:_Phantasm_Spell_Cards
Read the names of the spellcards for Yukari for examples of what borders she can control.

Yeah the first boundary she manipulates really is DREAMS AND REALITY.

>>8937225
>>8937431
Particularly in the versus games, there are quite a few fights where it's apparent that one side or the other simply wasn't trying that hard, so you can't say that they were simply defeated.

Yuugi is the prime example of this, as her sake not even drop.

>>8937489
Yukari can manipulate the borders between almost anything, but that doesn't mean that she will, or even that she'll want to. I believe it was stated somewhere that if she wants to heat a glass of water, she has to concentrate on manipulating the borders between every single molecule in the water, and concentrating on that many things at once gives her a headache so she has to go and lie down afterwards.

>>8937431
All of the endings in SWR are canon too, which confirms that Yukari IS beatable in semi-danmaku games.

She was probably fighting at a power level that would make a fight fun though.

>>8937410
Its heavily implied in canon that Yukari

No fuck it I'm pretty sure its directly stated that Yukari is responsible for the border that holds Gensokyo into existing.

>>8937490

Like a youkai equivalent of Reimu you say?

>>8937490
>I mean, really, if you were her, don't tell me you wouldn't spend your whole time just dicking around messing with the other residents just because you can.
Well that's not what Yukari does. Yukari sleeps.

>>8937490
>you were her, don't tell me you wouldn't spend your whole time just dicking around messing with the other residents just because you can.

welll, yes, specially doing situations like >>8935578

except i wont be sleep all fucking day

ITT: Power levels, /tg/ style.

http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/19876986/Touhou_d20:_Races_of_Gensokyo

This seems relevant somehow.

>>8937529
Yeah, Yukari created Gensokyo for whatever the fuck reason. I'm fairly sure that's been confirmed. The reason why is still unknown, though; might be so youkai still have a place to exist, might be as some kind of personal playground.

>>8937531
Actually, yes. After all, Reimu gets her powers (however indirectly) from Yukari. The only thing she's canonically done completely on her own is learn to fly, which isn't that much of an achievement because EVERYONE can learn to fly in Gensokyo.

>>8937625
>which isn't that much of an achievement

flying away from reality is not a achievement now?

>>8937625
>Yeah, Yukari created Gensokyo for whatever the fuck reason. I'm fairly sure that's been confirmed. The reason why is still unknown

I'd sure as fuck create Gensokyo right now if I could.

>>8937618
We do not talk about that piece of shit.

>>8937654
Not when you're in a magical alternate reality where literally everyone can learn to fly if they feel like putting the effort in, no. Remember that even Marisa is still 100% human, and she's incredibly powerful just because she works constantly at it (and also steals ideas like a motherfucker).

>>8937625

What the fuck is going on in this post. It's made of pulling shit out of his ass and half baked assumptions.

>>8937625
>Yeah, Yukari created Gensokyo for whatever the fuck reason.

No. No. No. Get your facts straight.

http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Gensokyo

It was made as part of a compact between humans and youkai.

I think this is most likely the best touhou thread since the golden age of touhou on /tg/, well over two years ago.

>>8937678
>and she's incredibly powerful just because she works constantly at it (and also steals ideas like a motherfucker).
Mostly stealing and a good teacher.

Also she cannot lose because her spellcards contain the power of LOVE!

>>8937678

You are missing his point, one of Reimu's spellcards uses her power to 'float' TO IGNORE REALITY.

>>8937691
Is it? I'm not a major touhoufag, so I have no idea what's right and what isn't. The second part seems pretty accurate, though? Reimu gets her powers from the barriers which seperate Gensokyo from the real world, right? Making them a kind of border. And if Yukari created Gensokyo in the first place, well.. Yeah.

>>8937720
I dunno, kicked her ass pretty good in IN.

>>8937714
Touhou started coming to tg in force around early 2008. That's hardly more than 2 years.

>>8937755
You are dead wrong. Touhou was common on /tg/ in late 2007. I'm not sure when it first showed up here.

>>8937706
>>8937748
Well, that answered that, I guess! This is the problem with Touhou though; there's so little confirmed canon and SO MUCH fanon (some quite widespread), it can get really quite difficult to figure out what's accurate and what's not.

>>8937748
>Reimu gets her powers from the barriers which seperate Gensokyo from the real world, right?

actually the barrier is powered by reimu, and IIRC is specific said that the barrier is weakening

>>8937749
It was a joke about the power of love.

But it really is canon that she calls her spells for "Love Signs".

Also image limit

>>8937785
Maybe I missed that because I was mostly on euro time back then, or I didn't recognise it.

>>8937678
>>8935892

This is why I love Marisa, along with the giant lasers she stole from Yuka.

>Yukari can do this...
>Yukari can do that...
WTF? Has the border between Yukari Yakumo and Chuck Norris been tampered with yet again?

>>8937714
No.

Not really.

I don't think it qualifies by any stretch of the imagination.

>>8937838 Lasers Marisa stole from Yuuka
Mima is saddened

Whenever one of these threads pops up, I think I might want to go to Gensokyo, but then I remember I'd be metaphorically raped to death.
I think I'd buy a gun before I went.
Sure, it might not save me from one of the major powers, but it'd hopefully scare off some of the smaller people-eaters.

Upstart Spoiler Celestial > Purple Border Hag

>>8937857

Seconded. I've seen much better discussion than this, such as Rumia being statted for Dark Heresy, running around a space hulk in its shadowy depths picking off people and eating them, haunting the place and terrifying those on board.

>>8937875
Not really they'd just laugh at your stupid fireworks.

They do know what fireworks/explosive powder is you know.

>>8937875
Power creep. Upon entering touhouland you'd probably get the power to make everybody really apathetic or lethargic.

>>8937922
I wish I could get into Gensokyo. So many waifus in silly hats.

>>8937748

Yukari had a part in making the border, she didn't make it herself. It was a combined effort for alot of people, I think there was even a dragon involved somewhere but honest the specifics are beyond me.

The point is, a bunch of youkai were involved, Reimu's family were involved and so on. It was a combined effort.

Reimu's shrine and her bloodline are a important part of the border today, but I don't think they are the source of her power, at least not entirely. I'd say it's a combination of her bloodline and her shrine maiden training. She may not be very good as a shrine maiden when it comes to dealing with people and gathering faith, but when it comes to kicking ass she's got a talent for it and she's been doing it long since before the spell card system.

Certainly not the most powerful character around, but she does have countless experience some unfair advantages.

>>8937953
Gensokyo is in the Philippines. Get packing.

>>8937870

I'm talking about Master Spark, clearly taken from Yuka.

Also, she did steal omnidirectional lasers from Patchoulli.

>>8937838
No. 100: 魔砲「ファイナルマスタースパーク」

Magicannon "Final Master Spark"
Owner: Marisa Kirisame
Stage 4 Powerful — Lunatic (Last Spell)
Comment: 魔理沙の魔砲講座。撃つ時は精神を集中させ、優しくミニ八卦炉に

呪文をかける。にっくきターゲットを狙い、放つは恋の魔砲！。

Marisa's lesson of how to "Spark". Concentrate your mind, Mutter the spell to Mini-Hakkero tenderly, Aim at someone you don't like, Now unleash your annihilation of love!

>>8937875
Just follow Mokou around offering her smokes.
Chances are eventually she'll stop trying to lose you and let you tag along, plus you can probably count on her to beat the shit out of any minor youkai who feel like gnawing on your ankles.
Probably.

>>8937922

more like power to cause indigestion after being eaten. Anonymous is not exactly a good healthy meal, too much fat and salt I imagine.

>>8937989
>Also, she did steal omnidirectional lasers from Patchoulli.
Unless this has been told in canon I will still believe that she got it from Omnidirectional Random Shot that Mima used.

>>8938000
>offering her smokes
wut

>>8937971
wasnt commenting by yuyuko how the barrier is something yukari could not make alone?

>>8937971

>Yukari had a part in making the border, she didn't make it herself. It was a combined effort for alot of people, I think there was even a dragon involved somewhere but honest the specifics are beyond me.

>The point is, a bunch of youkai were involved, Reimu's family were involved and so on. It was a combined effort.

As demonstrated here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dS-FIXSacQ

>>8938102
Now with chaotic evil purple haired Reimu.

>>8938079

Mima is never coming back

>>8938090
Mokou is often portrayed in fanart as smoking a cigarette. God knows where she gets them in the middle of a bamboo forest though; maybe she rolls her own. Or possibly Korindou, I suppose.

>>8938090
I think he meant to say pot, since all the edgy cool rebellious kids need to smoke something more hip than tobacco.

>>8938115
http://i43.tinypic.com/65agxd.jpg

>>8938079
If nothing else, Marisa got her master spark from Yuka, not Mima, so she learned magic from at least two sources. And it's... somewhat doubtful Yuka actually TAUGHT Marisa how to spark, so why are you denying that Marisa might have stolen spells along with books from Patchouli?

>>8938249
Marisa steals. Alice makes dolls. Reimu doesn't do anything unless she has to.

Three most important things in touhou.

>>8938125
>Mokou is often portrayed in fanart as smoking a cigarette.

Well, she always has a light handy. And it's not like she'd need to worry about cancer, seeing as her body can be completely incinerated and then reconstitute itself.

>>8938265
It would be kinda horrific if it reconstituted itself with cancer. If Mokou didn't exist, then that would be an explaination for Eirin's presence at Eientei. Hmm, maybe that's what the phoenix spirit is for.

>>8938115

the trick here is working out which Reimu is which.

dunno much about touhou, but is it true or just a fan thing that all the girls are hard lez for one another?

>>8938102
Isn't there something with the Youkai not being able to exist outside anymore due to lack of faith from humans? IE why there was a human village sealed in there to begin with, if the you lose all of them no 'faith' exists. Humans probably bought into it as it was possibly established during feudal age shit and no one wants to be forced to served or have their village burned to the ground during a shitty campaign by a warlord.

>>8938320
Fan

>>8938320
Definately just a fan thing. It's a joke because there's only one named male humanoid character. I don't think the subject is brought up at all cannonically.

>>8938354
Fanon.

Actually there is Lord Tenma and Genji.

>>8938320
>>8938366
There's a whole village full of humans. Reimu and Marisa are both eighteen, probably about 25 by now (doesn't the series progress in real-time?).
Also, most of the HARD LEZ shit is like the Alice/Marisa stuff; one or both of the characters is horribly warped, for example Alice being a shy UGUU~ character who just wants Marisa to X her Y, when actually she's pretty full of herself when you meet her in the games.
Alice isn't a delicate, shy little flower, she just has yokai-aspergers or some shit so she lives in a forest and ignores people for 90% of the time.

>>8938315
I like Embodiment of Scarlet Devil Reimu.

She's brimming with poise, resolve, and determination.

>>8938384
And Unzan.

>>8938366

no need to bring it up, it's clear through associated works (like Perfect Memento) that human men exist in Gensokyo, it's just that they aren't important enough to mention because none of the important heroes or youkai are male.

So named we have Youmu's dad, a turtle, a enlightened spirit, a shopkeeper and the leader of the Tengu.

>>8938320
There are >implications in some of the games. I believe ZUN has said something about some of them having boyfriends, too. It's not like their entire lives are on display in the games.

>>8938435

Imperishable Night is the prettiest ZUN Reimu in my opinion, though I like Scarlet Devil Reimu.

>>8938459
Fan rumour

>>8938457
Also, Youmu's dad is kind of a badass.
"Hey, you probably don't remember me, but I was your family's gardener before you ran off all the way out here. I hear people around you die just because. That's pretty crazy. Welp, I'll be out back looking after the cherry trees if you need me."

>>8938426
>she just has yokai-aspergers or some shit

Fact: Most youkai have at least one personality quirk that matches a mental disorder of the outside world. Koishi has autism, for example.

>>8938435
>She's brimming with CHARISMA!
fixed. fits the game it's in too.

>>8938426

>yokai-aspergers

this sounds hilarious, but I know what you mean. Alice just isn't interested in most people, oddly she's one of the kinder youkai around and will let people rest in her house in the magical forest during night, people generally don't because Alice is a creepy girl who does almost everything through her dolls and doesn't speak to you what so ever during the whole thing.

>>8938503
Does cannibalism count as a personality quirk?

>>8938546
Cannibalism is eating your own species, so since youkai aren't human, eating humans isn't cannibalism.

>>8938354
>Isn't there something with the Youkai not being able to exist outside anymore due to lack of faith from humans?

wut? Moriya and Scarlet mansion come from outside the border

Yuuka is my favorite youkai because she is the embodiment of Yazan.

Also Emotional Skyscraper ~ cosmic mind needs some good orchestral covers.

>>8938577
SDM came through the barrier in the early 1800 or something. Moryia shrine gods came through recently because they were going to fade from existence because of lack of faith.

>>8938537
I wouldn't Alice, but I'd her dolls.

>>8938306
The more I think about this, the more interesting it seems. The idea that the hourai elixer granted immortal life, but not health thus requireing measures of a fairly extreme sort for immortals to avoid living in misery forever has good potential in my opinion. It nerfs the whole "no matter what happens I'm immortal so I don't care" aspect that can occur with immortal caracters, since they need to maintain a way of avoiding being sick for ever and ever. Anyone else like this idea?

>>8938636
how babby doll is formed??

>>8935466
the nanotech system accumulated into colonys that transformed anything that lived long enough into a imitation of human form, with some odd ability. They called such monsters Youkai...

There ya go.

>>8938537
That's kind of why I like Alice. She's not really evil or good, she's just not really very good at talking to people so she doesn't even bother to try. The few friends she does have, she still doesn't talk to them very much, but when she does you get shit like the MALICE CANNON.
Plus, Alice's dolls have no free will. Literally everything they do, Alice is forcing them to do, including everything from basic movement to the appearance of having emotions. This makes a lot of the fanart for Alice at least three times as hilarious.

>>8938646
The Hourai Elixir also makes you immune to all disease.

>>8938459
Alice is canon gay for Marisa. That's all.

>>8938646
That sounds horrible. There's no way you could maintain health for a thousand years, especially when you spend a few centuries attacking everyone you meet, and then a few more centuries sitting and staring at the ceiling because you just don't care anymore. Both of which Mokou did, as I recall. Once you did have some ailment which persisted through your reincarnation, you'd never get rid of it, and the immortal effectively becomes a long-lived mortal.

>>8938706

It's easy to see where fanon jokes about her being lonely come from, still it's nice that she insists on never using her dolls to make more dolls. Every doll, even the ones she suicides, is hand crafted with love.

>>8938706
>MALICE CANNON
I love that name. I hate that type of formation, but if you ignore that, it just sounds awesome. Is it a cannon that fires malice, or is it a cannon formed of pure, condensed malice? Who knows?

>>8938631
i am going to point at info of the touhouwikia, take this as you please

>SDM came through the barrier in the early 1800 or something

ironical, the border was created in 1884

>Moryia shrine gods came through recently because they were going to fade from existence because of lack of faith.

Kanako, a goddess of the wind and rain, seeks to gain all of Gensokyo's faith in order to prevent the declining level of faith in Gensokyo to reach the point where its gods lose their power. Were such a thing to happen, she believes, Gensokyo would fall into a state of chaos.

>>8938756
This is exactly why I love it. Whatever it is, it's just pure, unadulterated Malice.

>>8938746
>Alice is canon gay for Marisa. That's all.
As far as I know, Alice and Marisa are canon neighbors and no more.
>There's no way you could maintain health for a thousand years
Yes there is: magic and/or lunarian super science. Kaguya's got Eirin's shady drugs to keep her going and, from what I've heard, (might be fanon, I really don't know) Mokou has some sort of pact with a phoenix. Since she's immortal without the phoenix maybe it keeps her healthy, purging all the illness every time her body is reformed.

>>8938746
Amusingly, if you look at the text in SA, there's no real affection there. Alice is all business. And then her battle text in hisoutensoku when she beats Marisa:
>Soon, the ultimate doll should be complete. With this, the forest will be mine.

Obviously, she's either lost her affection for Marisa or has only been plotting to kick Marisa out since the beginning, making excuses to stay near Marisa to study her battle style and make contingencies in order to be sure of winning.

>>8938859
>As far as I know, Alice and Marisa are canon neighbors and no more.
ZUN said it, so it's Word of God. It was in an interview.

There's no canon information on exactly what Mokou's deal with the phoenix is.

Mokou's a health nut, that's why she's healthy even though she's immortal.

only inside the barrier can you get people like this.

Remilia Scarlet, accursed bloodfeasting hellspawn of Scarlet Devil Mansion. Enjoys tea parties and assorted flavors of cheese.

>>8939204
>Enjoys tea parties and assorted flavors of cheese.
Well who doesn't? Aside from the uncultured & lactose intolerant, respectively.

>>8941192
The lactose intolerant can enjoy the flavors of cheese, just, not the aftereffects.

>>8939204
>Remilia Scarlet, accursed bloodfeasting hellspawn of Scarlet Devil Mansion.

Actually, Remilia is known to be a light drinker. She takes only an eensy bit of blood each time. Flandre is a raw foodist though, so she eats bloody meat.

>>8943983
Flandre also doesn't know how to properly attack a human, and without Sakuya or someone else preparing her food for her she accidentally destroys the person she wants to eat.

Tohou fags are the worst

>>8947805
Yes, they have all this damn FUN around you while you continue to hate for wholly arbitrary reasons.