>>9304217
My father was killed by the six-fingered man.

I have sworn to avenge his death.

>>9304217
my dad and I have a pretty good father-son relationship, the real bonus is that he works as a software engineer for an energy company, so he never gets out of date, hell, even when my friends and I used to play DND back when I lived with him, he would stick his head in and make some awful pun about something we were doing, but in the end we still laugh about it. Hes a cool dude, and a cool dad, still is, and always will be

Damn you, OP. I was going to call him today...

>>9304320
I was going to have a SRS BZNS moment about when I lost my mom to cancer when I was 16, and how my dad is a prick I no longer speak to, a real fucking spot of writefaggotry.

You, sir, have made me laugh and for that, I give you my internet BROfist.

That's a total fucking downer.

Thanks, asshole.

>>9304437
If you'll notice, I said parent or parents, and did not specify mother or father. The fact that the image talks about a father is besides the point.

You have my condolences concerning the death of your mother.

>>9304217
>Work it out with the people who raised you, /tg/. Before its too late.

>For those that it is already too late for, you have my condolences.

FTFY, and thank you.

I need to go make a call.

>>9304320
my sister was killed by the man with two right hands, I have sworn to avenge her death

>>9304482
Thanks, I really do appreciate that from one stranger on the internet to another, so I will give you a story.

You ever heard of the book Love You Forever? Whoooooo boy. That'll bring this thread out of sad to straight up BAWWWW in 5th gear. Well, here's how I learned of it.

This was a couple years after the moment I lost my mom, which, by the way, is a small story in and of itself. Dad woke me up at 6:43. I knew that I was supposed to be up at 6. He just opened my door and said "Wake up. They cancelled school." and all I could reply with was just a soft "No..."

Fast forward, I'm floating around Wal Mart at 3 in the morning. I'm in a podunk nowhere town, and there's nothing to do. Plus, it centers me. Looking back, it was over something stupid, a breakup or some shit. Anyways, I find this book. And like a moment of fate, I start reading it. By the time I was done, I was a bawling mass on the ground.

"Forever and always,
my baby you'll be."

Take some time with your parents, make a moment. It's the least I can say.

>>9304217
...Goddamn.

>>9304595
Fuck, even worse when you're the baby and you're a baby's baby.

My father and I are decent to each other, so long as we're a long fucking way apart.
I know the day he dies is the day I'll feel a kind of freedom words fail to truly capture.
And that's tragic.
But I hate him, and that's life.

>>9304595

That damned book. I don't know anything else that can make grown men cry so readily.

Yeah, well when my dad tried to drive my family into poverty, just for the trollface, it kinda soured the relationship.

Fuck you Dad, I'll see you in hell.

I'm surprised me and my dad even have a realtionship since he was in and out of prison the first 13 years of my life, in fact we didn't have a real relationship until almost 5 years later when I thought about how he's actually pretty damn cool for his job.

Never forget the face of your Father you ungrateful cunts.

>>9304828
Which one, the guy who supplied the sperm and I'm only now having anything resembling a relationship with, or the one who took his idiotic (at the time) step-son's kid and raised him?

however both liked /tg/'s so I always had the backing of an honorary fa/tg/uy when someone said my hobbies were Satanic.

>>9304887
you have two dads, you're privileged, enjoy them both

>>9304899
I did until this last October.

Fucking hell he looked so healthy that night when I went to work.

I watched my Dad's spine break as a wave took him the wrong way while we were swimming. Freak accident.. I was with him for several months as he tried to recover, and due to some shifty practices of the doctor passed away incoherent and unaware that his entire family was with him as he went.

He was one of the greatest men I have ever known or seen.

>>9304828
He who shoots with his gun has forgotten the face of his father.

>>9304595
You know what's sad? I can't cry when I read that book anymore.

I just can't. The tears won't come out, even though it hurts so much.

I've never told my dad 'I love you' and I only plan to say it once by his deathbed. That way, he knows just how much I mean it.

>>9305031

((Well, except when I was a little kid)

>>9305031
you faggot, go hug you old man rigth now, you may not be besides him when the time comes.

This just inspired me to talk to my dad again.
We've not spoken for nearly four years.

Jesus, /tg/, why can you do for me things that thousands of dollars of therapy and all the good friendly advice can't?

>>9305052
/tg/, shit, done, etc.

>>9305017

Father doesn't like my guns...he's far too much of a traditionalist. We go to the range together, we can share the time together.

But I know, deep down, he is disappoint.

if i ever had children, i have no doubt that i'd be exactly the same kind of father to them that my old man was to me.

which is why i can never have children.

>>9304958
sounds like the one I just lost, kick ass guy, electrical engineer, was planning on surprising him with the paycheck I'd have that following firday, get a call from him saying he's in the hospital to get some fluid off his heart.

The the crushing blow comes the next day as I sleep after getting off work, he's had a stroke, call up my bio dad to spread the word. It gets worse from there, seeing him unable to figure out where he is, who I am, and what's going on, then the doctors pulling us aside as he sleeps and telling us it's metastetized or however you fucking spell it cancer that caused the stroke...now strokes, watching as his two sones one son's family, a couple coworkers and his church are the only ones who care about him. I still wish I could have taken him to that steakhouse we loved so much one last time.... fuck... got something in my eye BRB.

>>9305064
You DO know that was a Dark Tower reference, right?

>>9305079

One newfags won't get...

>>9305017
My father, but mostly my maternal grandfather taught me to shoot.
When my grandfather finally went down due to cancer (fought that shit off three times before but it just kept spreading) I hadn't been able to see him for months, and his house was next door...
Not a single tear was shed then, but that was the worst year of my entire life.

This is the third depression thread today? Shit /tg/ get it together.

If you ever have kids, never fail to show them just how much they mean to you.

One day, you'll be the awesome dad that passes away. Never forget that.

Haven't spoken to my dad in 6 years, and will be perfectly happy never to again.

Feels good.

the chances of smoothing things over with my mom are virtually nonexistant and to be honest I'm happy with that. I don't want to have to conform to her beliefs just for the sake of having a relationship so not all relationships are worth salvaging.

>>9305089
On a brighter note (mostly to make me forget about my grandfather.... damnit) I took the liberty of renaming my borderlands hunter Roland instead of the soldier. I've run into a few others. Instant recognition of people who aren't 12.

>>9305125
Ah but what about your mother?

My dad was a fat lazy bastard.

And I loved him ;_;

>>9305048

I can't. He taught me that a man doesn't show his feelings and simply suffers in stoic silence. I can't help but feel a little sad though, because he was just too busy during my teenage years. He looked away and his son grew up. Now he has more time, but I'm too busy....

>>9305148
DO IT FAGGOT!

I haven't talked to him in ages.

I hope to see him in the summer.

...oh well.

Sociopathfag here, I only mourn the loss of my affinity-family and don't know what it's like to care about your biological relations.

>>9305165
Reminds me I need to go visit my Grandfather, and talk to my dad more, maybe visit him if I can and see my nephew as well. (shit almost put nephews)

>>9305148

stab your father. Then say "I did it with the strength you taught me."

he will never be more proud of you.

I'm adopted but as I've grown older I've come to love my parents so much I have a pretty good intuition when either of them dies I'm going to be a blubbering mess.

I really don't like thinking about it and they're both in they're 60s and have kind of hoisted me up as the responsible son who will take care of everything and want to talk to me about the life insurance and the will and all that. I hate it.

When I think about it that may be why I refuse to get close to anyone.

I'M SAD.
I'M SAD.

We've got not much to say to each other. So we don't say much to each other.
One day we won't be able to say anything to each other.
I'm okay with it.

I lost my dad, when I was young... He was a pretty cool guy /tg/, I remember him sitting there at the computer, playing games like Normandy: The Great Crusade, A Bridge Too Far, Diablo, Warcraft, Baldur's Gate... Hell, he's probably the reason why I started playing games like that. He also would sing me war songs at night, as like, a lullaby. I went to sleep to the tune of Johnny Horton's "Sink the Bismarck" or "The Battle of New Orleans"

I saw him the day before he died and I'll never forget that.... I love you dad.

I fear I'm sociopathic and will never know actual 'love'.

>>9305148
hooray terrible gender roles

>>9305186
At least they're being thoughtful, never know when one might just go >>9305078

Oddly it hit me harder in the long run than my grandmother's long drawn out turn towards death.

I love Jamie Smart but only know his BEAR stuff from years back. What's he doing now? Is that from a website?

It was funny, I was playing Fallout 3, and when officer Gomez says he's sorry to hear about your dad dying when you revisit the vault, I instinctively said "thanks, I appreciate it." I couldn't help but laugh.

>>9305181

I think he'd be like "Son, why did you do that?"
And I'd say, "I did it with the strength you taught me."
And then he'd give me the disappointed look and say, "You know, you're dumb as shit." and die.

If anything, I'm thankful me and my dad get along as well as we do.

Hell, if anything he's the reason I'm on /tg/. A long time ago Neverwinter Nights came out and I wanted to get it. At the time he was surprised people still played D&D and he gave me his old copy of Twilight: 2000. I still haven't played it, but I use the bag of dice he gave me every time me and my friends play. Every now and again to convince myself I use it, I contribute a few Twilight: 2000 pdfs when people start a book download thread.

Sadly, I don't think we'll ever play any traditional games together aside from Spades or something, but then again, we've got vidya. One of these days I'm actually going to beat him at Homeworld, just you wait.

I love my dad.

I've never been hugged, or been the recipient of those three words that mean so much: "I love you".

Sometimes, I wish that I felt loved. But I don't think it'll ever come true. Oh, well. Such is life.

>>9305208
Get a cat.
You'll see the two ideas blend rather wonderfully.
It's possible to be aloof and cold and absolutely devoted.

>>9305229

Eh, same thing. He'll never be more proud of you either way.

Goddamnit OP, this is the closest I've come to crying in a long time

My dad clocked me in the face and kicked a whole in the wall in a drunken stupor after I picked up his dead fucking weight and carried him to his bed.

This all happened when I was 16, These days I only talk to him when I need something.

>>9305259

Also I'm pretty sure he'll have killed me before then. He's about four times better armed than I am.

Godammit /tg/...

My contacts are bothering me so I think I'll go t--to---BAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

I feel empty. But it's okay. My emptiness will end, when I die.

I love my dad. He's a goofball that spends his time playing TF2 on a pothead server, but goddamn I love him. He's a fucking bro.

The day he dies is going to be a bad, bad day. Right now I can't do anything but try not to think about it; however, that horrible little thought lingers in my grey matter for ages to come.

I love you, Dad. Don't ever leave me.

> I'M SAD.
> I'M SAD.
this.

>>9305295

Then you haven't learned a thing from him. Git yo self some weapons, boy.

I lol'd. If this comic really makes you guys sad, you must have serious relationship problems with your parents.

As for my other dad, he's an ex-con who went straight, he's actually someone I'm proud of now, life gave him lemons and he's now made a fucking Dread, went from being a poor con to being a programmer who programs stuff for blind computer users, and has his own home I think at some point if he moves a bit closer (not half the country away) I'd pull him into a D&D game just for fun, he's the one who got me into this what with his love of Dragonlance and the old gold box games.


Fuck I wanna run him through a game just like he did me before going away that one time, leaving me wondering what was going to happen to my character (I read the module and if I had been doing as well as I had, it would have been awesomeness.)

>>9304828
which one?

healthy and spry, with a full beard?
or stripped of hair, slack jawed and cadaverous, as he was in his final sleep before the cancer claimed him?

y'know, it'd be easier if I could forget.

I'm sure Batman would agree with me.

>>9305146
This guy here.

It sucks too, I'm on /tg/ because of him. I sat in his lap when he (or I as a wee lad) played Doom and Wolf3D. We played Panzer Dragoon together. I would sit on his lap as he would GM for his D&D group.

Often times I would blather out a plot important piece of info when I read his notes, such as "Daddy, what's a Lich?" and he would play it off to the players as divine assistance.

Later on he became immobile due to an unfortunate accident, and had to cancel going to his D&D games. I showed him Civilization, and he played Civ 3 religiously.

He died on the release day of Civ 4. I bought it, but I can't bring myself to install it.

My dad pretty much made it a point to ignore me unless I was able to do work for him, so, eh. We talk about once every other month for about five minutes, during which we both ask a few questions about the weather and he reminds me to check my oil.

>>9305439
God dammit, as though I wasn't bawwwwing hard enough...

My father and I are no doubt on an unstable relation at best. There are times when we will flat out brawl and fight and curse and whoop the shit out of each other. Hell, we've been to jail together a couple of times. Then there are times when I mourn and regret those times, /tg/ I only see my dad (if I am lucky, once every two years) and at best for two weeks.

I remember growing up, I used to worship the ground he walked on, practically deified him. But as I got older, he looked less of a god, and more like an asshole. Its odd, I rebelled, hated him...for the longest time, now I don't. Its like were slowly coming back together now.

Havn't talked to him in about a month, he's off in Haiti right now, doing who knows what. I never was allowed to know his line of work, but it has to do with the government. He told me he may not come back (he was drunk at the time) So I figured he was being dramatic. But now after reading that I worry.

He always told me that men are animals deep down, and any animal will always know when his time is near. I think he knows, /tg/ this is one of the few times I wish he was wrong. I need to tell him, but I do not know how. When he returns...if he returns, I'm gonna move down by him and do it just like him and his dad did it.

Thanks anon, shitty to say it took a random internet post to get my head out of my ass, but better late than never.

>>9305416
That final one is the one that will always burn into your mind.

How I wish I could remember my grandfather's face before he had his stroke.

>>9305498

Off into the sea of anonymity you go, thoughts of the faceless. To be judged with nonsense or sincerity, you have been made manifest, go now and be judged.

My father worked at a restaurant until it closed down. It was his first job here and he still worked it even though he had a PhD in Civil Engineering and had a steady job. I'd always stay up to greet him when he came home in his uniform and with a box of leftovers. I can still remember the shows that ran on the TV as I waited: Star Trek...Red Dwarf....Married with Children....

Other times, I'd stay up watching movies with him or just lie next to him on the floor (he liked sleeping on the ground). I'd ask him things like "If I broke the refrigerator, would you still love me?" and he'd say, "Of course, you're my son." Then I'd say things like, "What if I broke the house? What if I blew up the world? What if I destroyed the universe?" and no matter what I asked, he'd always love me. I miss those days.

A while ago I overslept an important meeting with a women of the staff of my university. My dad came to wake me and I sent him off, but she called and he came to wake me up again. I set another meeting, hung up, and turned to see my dad with his "I'm disappoint" face on. He asked me why I said I had nothing to do that morning, I said I lied, and he seemed shocked, so I faked embarrassment. Then he was off to work.
That evening, he came in my room and asked me about my studies, how I was doing and stuff. I made a few vague answers to stop that conversation.
Then he said that he wasn't ever really close to his own father (my grandfather is kind of a dick), that he never really talked to him, and that now he regretted it. And then he looked sad.
So I said that I don't mind talking to him, that I don't care who my interlocutor is, just what the subject is.
He left my room, and I went back to masturbating.

goddamn it /tg/ now you're making me dread the day my grandfather dies even more

>>9305514

Least you had a Grandpa, Both mine died of Smoking related Illnesses. First one coughed up blood, and died on Christmas Eve during a family party. The Look in my Dad's eyes when he told me about it made me feel like I knew him even though he passed long before I was born. My other one died of Lung Cancer that spread throughout his body, and this was back when it was basically a death sentence.

Damn it /tg/, I need to go talk to my Dad now..

Why is it you can learn so much, from so very little?

>>9305617
Sorry have to remember my grandfather was pretty much my father.

>>9305642
Sometimes talking with a group is the only way to get your head out of your ass.

>>9305659
same here

>>9305690
Well damn, all I can say is I hope it doesn't happen for a long ass time.

>>9304217

my father died on christmas.

this is the first time I've cried for him.

I never knew my dad, and OP made me cry...

fuck...

My dad wasn't an asshole or anything. Just a typical latin macho male.

Mom and he got divorced when I was 13. He still loved me, I truly believe. He just never knew how to express it and still be a man.

For that reason, I was taught masculinity by various mentors. Swell guys, really. Dad wasn't around a lot (divorced and all; he had me on the weekends) and he wasn't intellectual enough to guide me through that crucial, awkward period.

I was lucky. I found men who were.

As a result though, I've always had a kind of distant, wistful sadness about my dad. I don't talk to him much, now - if someone were to ask, I suppose I'd say I loved him. But he's more like a stranger to me, now.

The day I moved out - I was 18 and a few months, with my life savings ($1,250 or so; god was I scared,) an '86 camry, and a destination 1500 miles away - he finally realized that loving his son was more important than his bullshit idea of machismo. He cried, we hugged, he said he loved me. I think if he hadn't I would have hated him. Now I just feel sad for him - and myself.

My dad's a decent guy. If any of you met him, I bet you'd tell me he'd be nice to hang out with. He's thoughtful, sensitive and smart. But thanks to that attitude, I just don't have a deep, emotional connection with him like so many others have with their dads, for good or ill.

>>9304217

I'm 21 and my dad got deported early in life.

I'm going to see him next summer after I lose some more weight. It's going to be so hilarious, the look on his face, when the pathetic 16 year old otaku returns as a 22 year old bad-ass.

If he's bald now, I'm going to laugh so hard.

I find it bittersweet that my Dad was the kind of man to teach me not to cry. That real men don't cry, it only shows that you're weaker then everyone else.

Even in this thread, I can feel the urge to cry there but it never actually comes.

Don't you just love traditional parenting techniques?

He died when I was seven. My biological father voluntarily abdicated any responsibility or relationship with me. I have a rather good relationship with my mother. I do wish I had known him better however.

>>9305478
Sort of like my dad, but deep down I know he loves me on a level he's not that good at expressing verbally. I'd do anything to make him proud of me though. -Anything-

I... I should really try to spend more time with him though if I can. I sit and watch his WW2 documentaries and shows with him when I can, but I never go out with him when he drives around doing his photography hobby.

I just remember him cleaning up after his dad when he [grandfather] had Alzheimer's disease and he couldn't take care of himself anymore. My dad never said anything, but I could see that he was really hurting going through all that.

I swore to myself that day when my grandfather died that I'd treat my dad like a king once I got a place of my own and he retired. Though he's always working, I just can't imagine him retiring.

>>9305763
well being a girl i never got that, though my mom had her own ideas there

she'd really be right at home back in the 50's

>>9305753
I seriously want to go visit my dad, surprises him when he sees me with a van dyk just how much it's like looking into a slightly taller mirror... minus the 20 or so years.

>>9305763
My dad never taught me not to cry. He never told me to be stronger. I still can't cry, but at least I don't feel the urge for reading this thread.

I'm on great terms with both my parents.

My dad used to beat us when we were younger, but we fought back and instead of getting lethal, it became more of a physical play. We'd beat the tar out of each other with smiles on our faces, then mom would scream at us.

Now he's older and we're bigger, so we can't do that. But we still go shooting together, occasionally play games together, watch old shows together, and talk about how we'll overthrow the librul government and kill all the niggers and spics.

I love you dad.

My mother would always tell me I looked a lot like my dad in those old black and white photos....I still don't see it.

Come to think of it, she's the one who told me all the stories of my dad's childhood. He never said anything about it...

I knew he grew up poor though, never went out to eat, never had any toys. It made him frugal, but he wanted his son to have the things and opportunities he never had.

>>9305753
>when the pathetic 16 year old otaku returns as a 22 year old bad-ass.

>still on 4chan

Fuck you OP.

This is the first time I've had tears in 7 years, since he died.

>>9304217
My 'apa is like the one from Big Fish: with all his faults and all his virtues.

I love him and wish him only well in this life. :)

>>9305617
My paternal Grandfather died after a long decline due to Alzheimer's; I barely knew him after my childhood because I never went to see him, and when I finally did, he was essentially a vegetable. He died four years later, he was a tough old man, but I hadn't seen him since, nor could I go to his funeral. I miss him terribly.

Luckily my maternal grandfather is sharp as he ever was, if not in the best health (3 cigars a day!).

As for my grandmothers, well, they're so tough they'll probably outlive me... at least I can dream.

Oh god damn it at first I was just a little teary, but now I'm full out crying...
god damn it, I don't do this, what the hell

my father was a horrible man that left my mother and her five children. there is nothing to forgive, nothing to speak about.

What if your parents literally drove you insane? What if you have to down handfuls of pills every morning because your parents never hid the fact that they despised you for being born and then spoiled your sister rotten because, "She wasn't a fucking accident?"

Maybe I don't think they deserve a second chance.

This thread isn't even /tg/ related

>>9305938
there's always punching him in the face

My grandfather was the most resourceful man I've ever seen. He survived a war, had an arm almost ripped off in a lumberyard, and had horrible injuries to the other from a chainsaw accident, but every time we'd go to visit, he'd still be up on a hill, chopping firewood or building a shed or something, even when he was in his seventies. Then, he got sick, and he went straight from that to being pale, too weak to move, and delirious for the rest of his life. I think that's when I decided that the universe is ultimately unfair.

>>9305960
just having my mom think something along those lines was bad enough but both parents? That has got to suck.

>>9305960
Bitter much?

>>9305960
Why haven't you killed them yet?

Oh god damn it, it's raining.

>>9305960
Ha ha I got that way after my dad died. He was a bro.

>>9305960

>>9306064
We all live under the same clouds and stars, bro.

It's raining down here too in Northern Mexico.

>>9305960
<=YOU

>>9305960
Sorry man; I can't really say more than that. They certainly don't deserve your love, but sometimes shit like that can't be helped. Don't really know what to say.

>>9306008
he died of alzhimers half a year ago. His ashes sit in the corner of our living room. Even after all the shit he did, my mother still loves him. I cannot.

>>9306177
love can be really stupid at times

>>9306161

>>9306177

My dad is strong, in almost every meaning of the word. His ability to stand tall in the face of adversity, his work ethic, his willpower, his everything. He beat a two-year heroin addiction at seventeen, joined the Navy at eighteen, learned electronics despite having no aptitude for the subject at the time, and went on to become a blaster for a company that specializes in blowing huge holes in the earth with dynamite.

I love him. I wish I could be like him. I wish I could do what he accomplishes with such apparent ease. His physical achievements are nothing short of amazing to me.

My skills are something altogether less impressive. Reading. Writing. The best of what is mine is public speaking. I have no reason to suspect it, but I believe he's secretly ashamed of the son that can't do what he does. He has no reason to think it, but the only reason I can manage to "man up," as it were, is to emulate what I see in him.

Strength. Confidence. Assuredness.

One day, I'll tell him. One day.

>>9306197
Why not?

Are you confused, perhaps?

>>9306205
yes. he ruined any chance i had at a normal social life, as well as taking away all my happiness. He would continually file for custody of us so he wouldnt have to pay child support, and stick us in his one bedroom apartment all day. That was his plan anyway. The man was also a religious zealot, and wouldnt let me get any videogames with violence in them for the time he was with my family.

I never knew my dad, he left me when I was 2 or 3.
And I'm a total fucking pussy because that hurts me so fucking much, when so many people out there have gone through the same shit and worse, and they're totally fine, but it fucking kills me that I never had a father.
I fucking hate myself

/tg/ - Those that can or want to getting their heads out of their collective asses.

I've got to go make a call.

>>9306236

Quit crying, faggot.

>>9306260
quite the contrary, I am a stronger man for what happened to me. I know that all the things he did I can never do as a parent, and that will help me be a better father.

While I'm grateful for the opportunities, morals, work ethic, good times, and experiences my father instilled in me, he abused me, my little sister, and my little brother in the name of making a point. He crossed the line. I moved out when I turned 18, and I have not spoken to him since. It's been more than five years now. I heard he had a mild heart attack, and laughed. Those feelings are fading. I imagine in ten years' time I will want to talk to him again. For now I remain a bastion of support for my mom.

goddam sad threads

sharing time.
I moved halfway across the country a few years ago. Dont see the family as much as i ought to. Older sibling has kids (3!!! ahhhh!) younger sib is kinda ok but still in the parental home.

about a month ago i got the call that my mom had been in for a routine blood panel and they found her liver somethingsomethings were off. Like weird and wrong. There was a negative on things like Hep, so all the specialists were in a holding pattern waiting for biopsy and etc testing.

Thinking maybe its cancer, maybe its some kind of fatty liver disorder.

ok, poked with giant needle, microscope, etc, apparently its some form of non-alchoholic fatty liver, which means that your liver just starts swelling up and getting fat and screwed up, hardening, cirrhosis eventually.

Its bad, but its not as bad as it could be in theory. But it makes me remmeber that my mom is going to die. Not this week, not this year, but sooner then later.

i am kinda screwed up over that, emotionally

and i still pause before answering her calls or returning them because i dont know how to talk to her. i justify it by telling myself that i am busy at work or that i will call her back in the morning, but i usually dont.

when i do call, we don't know how to talk to each other, so we talk about unimportant shit until i make an excuse to get off the phone or she realizes that i am uncomfortable and make the excuse for me.

each time i think about how screwed up over this i will be when it is too late.

I still live with my parents.

... I'm 19. I think they can stand me for now until I get through college.

This thread is very touching, goof job /tg/.

>>9306294
whoops dorry, accidentally hit f instead of d

damn it /tg/ ! I come here to be happy! not cry like a little girl!

>>9306240
Wow, what a bitch.
Get over it, at least your dad didn't fuck you up or anything.

>>9306318
sorry
have a funny

My father and I bonded over shitty point and click mac games and watching him repair cars.
He's doing fine.

My mother and I still game together, and I recently got her to branch out from Drow into other races, with the help of our DM.

post awesome dads

I'm fine...

>>9306394

Fuck this shit. My father's turned into a real asshole lately. Nothing I do is ever good enough for him, I'm getting good grades but I could be getting better grades. I have a job but I could have a better job. It's bullshit. Yesterday he called me naive and said that I have low self esteem and don't set my bar high enough.

Everytime I talk to him it turns into a conversation about how I don't have enough money or whatever. Then I get to sit by and watch as he and my younger brother have a better relationship.

It leaves me often wondering if I should be like my grandfather and just wash my hands of this family like he did his.

My dad left when I was three.
I'm stuck with a pedophile for a step dad and an apathetic bitch for a mother. Oh, and I can't afford college.

Life is swell. WHY IS THIS THREAD ON /tg/, ANYWAY?

>THIS
>FUCKING
>THREAD

>>9304217
you know, if he wanted to work it out, I would.

Since my father has no intention of ever having a relationship of mutual respect, he will find his own cold comfort.

I dont have to like it, but I damn well cant make him care.

For those who have passed on, and for those still with us.

It's okay, /tg/. Things will seem better in the morning.

I promise.

>>9306467
sadness is traditional?
and we game to help ignore it?

something like that.

>>9306517

Well, you get an A for effort.

>>9306394
Oh my dad *is* awesome.

Just not an awesome dad. He's a very spiritual person, deeply involved in Buddhism and self-reflection and various religious philosophies; not so much raising a kid. He told me he was on the edge of achieving a higher state of being through meditation and study, but had to give it up because I was his responsibility.

I COST MY FATHER NIRVANA

What the hell am I supposed to say to that?

>>9304380
I want a dad like that...;_;

Cat's in the cradle and the silver spoon
little boy blue and the man on the moon...

He taught me how to play checkers and chess. He let me win half the time in checkers. He taught me a lot of things, so many things that matter, and gave me a few solid examples of what not to do. I respect him, I love him, I think I can be a better version if I take his memory to heart. With that I bid you all farewell.

>>9306430

CAT'S IN THE CRADLE AND THE SILVER SPOON
LITTLE BOY BLUE AND THE MAN IN THE MOON
WHEN YOU COMING HOME DAD I DON'T KNOW WHEN

>>9306552

All kidding aside. "Thank you."

this thread is making me miserable. bastards.

Despite all of the edition wars, the troll threads, the furries, everything - this place seems the most human.

Never change /tg/. Never change.

I'm going to call home tomorrow, its too late right now.

I never knew my dad.

>>9306571
If parents were like that in this day and age there would be no ADD.

>>9306629
Reminds me of Mr. Lewandowski, my history teacher.

He had Vietnam flashbacks during class. It was fucking awesome. He had these white-blue eyes, and silver hair, and ugh. He was just so fucking awesome.

Fuck you, /tg/.

Mom and dad split up when I was 3. Most of my childhood was between moving from low income apartment to shitty town house to duplex to whatever we could afford at the time, and feeling like I had to be perfect when I was at my dad's place. I dunno, maybe I was just a bit too scared of my dad, but I always felt like I was stepping on egg shells there. Sometimes we'd play some vidya, or a board game and have a good time, but mostly I felt like I was being yelled at for nothing. Most of the time it was my mom saying something, and me saying something different. Of course, I was the liar. Either way, the parents didn't have a good relationship with each other. That came to a head and bam, we stop talking. Me and my sister suddenly are without a dad for about a year and a half, maybe two.

Slowly, we regain contact. Dad breaks up with his long time girlfriend, so we start spending more time together. We start to get a relationship going. Then, he dies. Heart attack while sleeping. Didn't see it coming.

That...that hurt. I honestly can't say I knew the man well at all. I mean, damn it, all of it was wasted time.

...Damn it.

>>9306609
>the most... human

>>9306695
ADD has moved aside for autism as the excuse of choice.

I wonder when they'll just figure out it's because so much is done to curb infant mortality rates?
Let the little fuckers die, for fucks sake.

>>9304595

...FUCK YOU! That fucking book. BAAAAAAWWWWW. I started tearing up just remembering that fucking thing.

>>9306560

And FUCK YOU, Harry Chapin!

Goddamn, guys.

>>9306695
>I have no idea how the human mind works

>>9306722
If you think spending time with your father is time wasted then you're a fool.

>>9305960
Hey, cry moar fag!

I... ... ... goddamnit. Dads. Just... Dads. I love my dad. I just wish we had bonded more when I was a kid. I guess that's what now is for.

Cheer up lads. It'll come, but no time soon. You've got time. Make the best of it.

>>9306722

It's stories like this that make my heart bleed all over the place and wonder if I really belong on 4chan. I mean, I still have feelings.

Ah exam time, when all the board collectively begin to break down, BAW threads begin to spread quickly as people can't handle the pressure

I hate this time of year...

>>9304958

This poster is here again.

I fucking love you guys. Continue being human beings in all our flawed glory. This is why I love humanity.

Also, thanks for sharing everything guys. It's things like this that really make /tg/ a place I enjoy.

>>9305743
I empathise a little. My dad is a really great guy, but he has these hang ups. All my mom and sister want are hugs, really, like a few a week would be great, but he can't do it. I think its from having his dad come from the really, really old school landed class from Spain. He doesn't express affection, which makes it hard for him to be close to family. His hospitatlity and sense of humor make him a great friend; his work ethic makes him a great employee, and a fair but demanding boss.

He is a good example, but he was usually working too hard to spend time at home, and just couldn't connect when he was there.

That said, I lucked out. He loved camping as a kid, and all of our quality time together was spent in scouting. Without that i feel like I would be where you are.

I never knew my dad. I wish to become like Blastoise Dad.

>>9306878
You're on /tg/. I don't know how some of the other places that aren't heavily trafficked are, but we're real goddamn people with real goddamn problems, feelings, dreams, goals, and love.

You can't find that on /b/, or /v/, or /a/.

You can't be one of those people who come here just for a cheap laugh. /tg/ is different, we help one another, we talk, and regardless of anonymity we all know the people we're talking to - our neighbors and ourselves, because we're all the same. We're all human.

>>9306211

I am fucking terrified of life because I feel like I want to be a father, and give a kid a life I didn't get to have, but I'm so afraid that I won't know how to be a father, having never had one.

>>9306695
Fuck that, give me Golem old dad with 'Nam flashbacks any day of the week.

>>9306963
>>We're all human

And there is nothing wrong with that

You know, my mother got pregnant before they were married. My dad pressured her to get an abortion and she did. Then she got pregnant again, and he married her (as was tradition, I'm not sure if he wanted to, it was too much to have a second abortion). That kid was me. I don't know whether to yell at him for killing my older brother or to try to prove I was worth the rest of his life.

>>9306552
An Ahrat for a dad? sounds pretty fuckin cool.

>>9306722
Really none of it was wasted time.

>>9306161
I'm a naturally forgiving person. Maybe it was because I genuinely tried to forgive my parents for the first decade of my life.

But I'm not willing to let bygones be bygones until they apologize.

Considering that these are the same people who didn't allow me to go to my own graduation because of an argument about Cinco de Mayo (I said that it wasn't Mexican Independence Day, they thought it was), the chances are slim to none.

Not saging because there's no point.

>>9306578
Hah, thanks man.

My parents were not the best, but I'm not going to be here complaining about what they could have done; I love them, they loved me; they loved me enough for my father to give up his perfect life and work in child protective services for a dozen years, they loved me enough to get back together even after having divorced.

I want to be able to share that love with other people, to reciprocate that with my parents, to bestow it upon my children, to my friends, to strangers.
Don't cry /tg/.

>>9306056
>>9306082
>>9306125
>>9306832
Really? That's how you're going to respond?

DADDY NEVER LOVED ME

>>9307094
I cry, but not tears of sadness, sure there is some sorrow, but every tear contains a little joy.

I'll see my parents in Hell. I'll be the one fucking Satan.

>>9305178
>I only pity myself because I can't pity others.

Anyone have that picture about how B'AWW threads are just testaments to our ability to sympathjize and grow as humans?

Like this kind of shit makes me love /tg/.
I called my dad to tell him I love him, with a single tear running down my cheek, at 2 in the morning.

Never change /tg/, never change.

>>9307239
*sympathize

my parents died in an airplane crash when my fell asleep and drove off the runway across 4 lanes of traffic down a hill and into a ditch where it flipped on it's top cockpit first into the 6 feet of water where they both drowned unable to get out of their seats.

I jest, my parents are just fine, I visited them last week and we my dad took us for a plane ride in his cesna...I think they're fine, they were fine when I saw them...what if they went out again, only this time he fell, OH GOD!
BRB CHECKING ON PARENTS!!!!!!

>>9307239

This it bro?

>>9307120
I laughed a little.

THEN I WENT BACK TO BAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWW

>>9307302
Thanks anon

Daddy's little girl like other daddy's little girls.

Daddy told his little girl to get the fuck out and never come back.

Daddy's little girl became a heroin addict and a streetwalker.

Daddy's little girl nearly died.

Daddy's little girl got back on her feet and made real friends and got a real life.

Daddy's little girl visted daddy in the hopsital as he lay dying.

Daddy's little girl told him what she thought of him.

Daddy's little girl walked out as he and mommy cried.

Daddy''s little girl doesn't have any regrets.

>>9307327
30 years down the road when the whore is a little more mature, she'll regret it.

My dad and I get along as long as we keep some distance. I know he cares for me, but I know I've disappointed him.

Wife, car, kids, house, career, he had his ducks in a row by the time he was 20. He'd easily be a millionaire several times over if he hadn't had a family so soon, but he's still well off and doesn't regret his choice one bit. Compared to him I'm moving in slow motion, fumbling, and I know it bothers him because he wants to see me succeed so badly. Sigh.

>>9307369

When I was a baby, if my dad came into the room I would scream and cry until he left. When I was four my parents broke up. Shortly afterwards my dad had a car accident, hurt his back, but didn't get surgery so he could survive off workcover. On the weekends I would go to his place mostly he would be lying on the floor in pain because of the drive to his place from mine. Eventually I stopped going to his place, the last straw being when I 'found' his porno collection at age eight, I think (It was just lying around on a bookshelf, easy to spot).

Cut to when I was sixteen, dad decides to out himself as a transgender female. He can't say it to my face, so he gets mum to tell me. I laugh at the stupidity of the situation, then baw my eyes out, and refuse to see him for about two years. By the time I'm 23 he's given up on being a transgendered female, partly due to all the physical dilapidation the whole hormone process causes, and how they causes even more problems for his back. Instead he wants to get into woodworking again, when he is in his fifties and nearly destroyed with arthritis and back injury.
I'm twenty five now and Dad is just getting over a suicidal episode he had.
I never want to be in a relationship with anyone, on the chance that I end up repeating all Dad's fuck ups. As it is I'm studying in the same field as he is, and I'm completely paranoid about ruining it all.

>>9307369
>>9307327

I don't know man, being kicked out your home by your own parents sounds pretty traumatic, I came close twice, never forgave my parents for that threat.
I'm all for her, might as well let the guy die with no illusions

>>9307327
Did you really have to go all pseudo-poetic?
And you're obviously not a daddy's girl. That doesn't even make sense in an ironic way. I hate you and your family.

>>9307413
The cuntstain decides to shoot herself up and nearly dies, so she blames her father. WOMYN POWAR

>>9307327
Good for you.

This is all I have to contribute to this thread. Gotta go call dad now.

>>9307441
Agreeeeeeeeeed.

>>9307327
see
>>9304828

>>9307441
>>9307436
>>9307369
Why are there niggers ITT?

>>9306753 here.

Now that I'm done B'AWWing, I suppose I should explain myself. This thread is ripping me up, because I have this bizarre love/hate relationship with my dad.

You see, my mom left him when I was just a wee one, because he was a crackhead, and on a few occasions tried to kill us or himself. Some years later, he cleaned himself up in an effort to re-attach himself to her, and to me. But by that time, she'd remarried, and my step-dad was the only dad I needed as far as I was concerned. But he still got custody every few weeks, and I kind of came to terms with all of it.

He's a total fuckup of a human being. He's crashed and burned so many times that he's just this side of a walking corpse. And on some level, I do love him, but I see in him a grim parody of myself. Every negative aspect of my own personality and every negative habit I have is blown up and distorted in him. I hate him for being all the worst parts of myself, but I'd managed to keep that to myself.

Until last year, when I had stopped returning his calls. Finally, while I was visiting my grandparents (his parents, who I am close with), he showed up one day. I played it off, saying I'd been busy. Once he got me away from my grandparents (we went to the store or somesuch) he looked me in the eye, and asked: "I've failed you, haven't I?"

... And my heart broke. And...I couldn't tell him no. I've prided myself on my ability to lie my whole life, and I couldn't tell the one that matters. All I could do was lower my eyes.

>>9307497
>bulldyke asspain detected

I wish I knew my father. But I also kind of want him to suffer for leaving us, despite it being my mom's fault. So I want her to suffer, too. I only want him to suffer because he never bothered to keep in touch with us after he left.

Now I have a bunch of daddy issues, and no one wants to be with a clingy girl who has daddy issues.

>>9307525
You underestimate the roneriness of /tg/.

>>9307466
I am generally a hard-ass and think these DAWWW threads are shit, and wouldn't have said anything but that .gif was on the front page and fuck man...it brought a tear to my eye.
That's some sad shit right there, fortunately my family is pretty damn tight my Dad and I meet up with some friends and play poker once every 2 weeks or so, and I'll take my Mom to dinner and a show at TUTS she really appreciates it. Gonna go see Little House on the Prarie next week, a real man can take care of his parents, I do.
Do you?

>>9307327
I never said I hated him.

I said I told him what I thoguht of him.

I think saying I love you after telling him waht I thought of him hurt him worse than anything that ever happened to me.

>>9307441

Sounds more like she was kicked out alone and depressed, the few people on the street were drug addicts and getting through life on the street required her to be like them.

I don't know, like I said it sounds like I wouldn't regret telling off my parents after living on the street, drugs or not

>>9307525
depends if you got fat over it.

Thanks /tg/. Didn't do something big like some of these guys calling their Dads after 4 years of not speaking; but you got me to call home anyways because I've been letting life make my calls home fewer and shorter. I don't want to regret taking my family for granted any more than I do already.

And thanks to that call I got some great news about a family friend who's coming out of a coma after being flung half the length of a football field by a car while he was on foot. Guess he's finally moving his arms and responding. Fuck I hope he gets better.

>>9307584
So rather than try and make amends with your dying father, you decided to tell him off, twist the knife, and let him wither away without you? Fuck right off. Even monsters deserve forgiveness and mercy, and "Daddy" not wanting a cuntlicker for a daughter is hardly the worst sin ever committed.

>>9307525
Don't wish suffering upon your fellow man, definitely upon your mother, who probably sacrificed so much to raise you

>>9307574
...
;_;
I don't, why'd you have to go and make me feel bad noble anon?

>>9307617

Why does a monster deserve forgiveness? Tell me honestly why? This goes beyond this particular story, this is a horrible part of the over forgiving society. A rapist doesn't deserve prison, he deserves death, same as the pre-meditated murderer. There are circumstances where shit is forgivable but a true pre-meditated crime or pain requires no forgiveness

Fuck you

I raped my father, l love him so. :)
Maybe someday my son will rape me.

Bless you all.

>>9307684
Telling your daughter to gtfo and murder are two different things

>>9307684
You know, you're giving intelligent and grammatically correct women a bad name. Please up the shut fuck.

>>9307466
>putting in an old game to find letters from your dead mother

I have no image macro for this.

>>9307684
You might want to rethink your logic, since you've just claimed that anyone who thinks about stealing something and then steals it should be killed. This is a stance with which most people will disagree.

>>9307758
>>9307745

Actually I'm not the fa/tg/irl who posted that tidbit, I was in the thread and saw the retarded comment of

>even monsters deserve forgiveness

>>9307745
And no it isn't, but telling your father who told you to gtfo what you think of him on his deathbed is about even

Why do people throw the death penalty around so much? Criminals need to give back to society, why is forced labor and medical experimentation never considered once?

>>9307790

I'm talking real crimes here, theft depends on what was stolen, if your talking the CEOs who stole billions of dollars so they could buy another mansion and in the process cause the suffering of millions of people from layoffs then yes

Petty theft is different

Gonads and strife, gonads and strife, gonads and strife....

>>9307525
Oh, I'm sure it can't be that bad. Everybody has issues, as this thread proves.

>>9307037
I meant the time I didn't see him. I'm annoyed that we some how broke contact for no real reason. Then, when I do get a chance at a relationship, and it's going well, he dies.

Life is funny.

>>9307868
GONADS IN THE LIGHTNING
IN THE LIGHTNING
IN THE RAIN

>>9307863
You're really getting on everyone's nerves. Quit doing so much heroin. It's clearly fucking with your mind.

>>9307835
I would imagine forced labour would be a little touchy, what with the history with slavery and all in the States. And medical testing seems alittle inhumane. I mean, rats are one thing, but people are people.

>>9307863
That distinction is not included in the logic. It is utterly arbitrary.

And I don't think ANY major political party supports death as an acceptable sentence for grand theft.

In other words, you sound like a nut.

I don't have a father; never did, he ran when my mom told him about me. I don't know him.

Thanks op, now I'm sad for never experiencing anything from your comic.

>>9307808
Colossians 3:13: "Bear with each other and forgive whatever grievances you may have against one another. Forgive as the Lord forgave you."

>>9307898
Thank you.

>>9307684
Matthew 6:14: "For if you forgive men when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. But if you do not forgive men their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins."

>>9307407
I've got some advice for anybody who doesn't want to be like this guy's dad.

First of all, if you're in a car accident and mess up your back, don't refuse to get it checked out just because you want to live oof of workman's comp

Secondly: don't put your porn on the bookshelf when your eight-year-old son comes to visit

And, last but not least, if you realize you're a transexual, don't change your way have way through your transition.

It's not that hard.

>>9307968
>>9307955
Awesome

>>9307948
Logically speaking, love is painful and pointless. Don't regret not feeling grief over the old douche that helped create you. Because there's nothing to gain from that. Or anything, really.

Meh.

>>9307327
I'm still not sure why your dad kicked you out, so it's hard to sympathize with you. Maybe you deserved it.

>>9307983
"Mama said knock you out." - LL Cool Jay. Sorry. Watching Fresh Prince.

>>9307991
>>9307991
Exactly! For all we know, she could have had her little addiction before she was kicked out, and being an addict, refused to quit, stole a bunch of their shit and began prostituting in order to pay for her dope.

I have no sympathy for the devil. Or idiots.

>>9307913

Forced labor could possibly be the ground work for actually rehabilitating people instead of just cramming them in a cell. Teaching them useful skills and such.

Forced medical testing would obviously only be used on criminals who have exhusted their appeals or have committed crimes that earn them life in prison.

I am just kind of throwing this stuff out here because the current system sure as fuck isn't about reducing the amount of criminals.

>>9307925

So now our opinions have to match political parties? What the fuck planet are you from?

What I'm saying is that strip away everything in our justice system and you still find that prison does nothing to cure the problem but puts the criminals in a place where to survive they have to be a better criminal.

When they get out you have a better criminal and if hes been in prison long enough he doesn't know how to adjust to normal life again.

The people who commit crimes or cause pain, knowingly with full understanding of the consequences, and they had another option that wasn't crime, they aren't the people who will be rehabilitated, they will continue with that way of life, they are sociopaths, plain and simple

My dad is. . .probably in the middle of the pack. He was a military brat and took parenting and spousing 101 from the man he hated, his dad. Meaning he overreacts, is never wrong, and is generally a chauvinist, with my mom and myself bearing the brunt of it. At the same time, he believes in supporting the family even if it costs the family, kind of like Breaking Bad, so he'd spend all week working, work weekend days, and then come home weekend nights to instill life values in his children in an abrasive manner possible. He has an amazing sense of humor and word play that I'm proud to say I've inherited/learned from him. We've gotten into brawls before, but he's helped me whenever I've needed. I get a definite sense of disappoint concerning my hobbies and ambitions, but I think he accepts me for who I am. We're always going to have a conflicted relationship, but to my surprise I invited him out to drink the other night.

>>9308040
No man has the right to kill another man

>>9308123

Those "men" foregove their rights as human as soon as they murdered or raped someone else, they don't deserve the same treatment we give to people

>>9308152
No sin is unforgivable if the violator truly repents

>>9308040
>So now our opinions have to match political parties?
Reading comprehension failure.

Every lawmaker thinks you're crazy. Thus, your opinions on law are disregarded.

>>9308168

So the guy says hes sorry and that makes it better does it? Even if he/she means it, you still have somebody who committed a terrible crime with no real form of punishment

>>9308173
Again, so the lawmakers think I'm crazy? Whatever, I think they have merit, I wouldn't go vigilante try to enforce them, but perhaps when their daughter is raped and murdered, and the man who perpetrated the crime gets a "life" sentence and gets off on parole in a few years they'll think about it

>>9308237
>they'll think about it
Not if they want a chance in hell of keeping their job, they won't.

>>9308237
The argument was about whether theft deserves the death penalty, not murder and rape.

>>9308252

Who are you the thought police? I said they're opinion might change, they're already in office they aren't changing they're policies.

I may have opinions that are wildly outside the norm, but I sure as hell know what the world is like and it isn't going to accept them until something big pushes them in that direction, or it never will change, or it will change in a way I don't like

My father was a world-class foul-up when I was younger. He divorced my mother when I was a year and a half old and would have nothing to do with me. That is, until my mother began getting involved with the man who would be my stepfather, two years later.

I was too young, I didn't really care, and I thought it was cool to go with my father; they'd had the custody stuff handled during the divorce and he just started picking me up, every other weekend and for an afternoon weekly. He had an old '59 Cadillac that he was always working on, and it was fun for him to drive me around in it, even if I couldn't see over the dash for the most part. It was the most awesome car ever (and met an ignoble end when it was too expensive to keep it running a few years later). We'd watch Knight Rider and eat chocolate pudding or macaroni and cheese or have a glass of chocolate milk.

But later down the road he decided he was going to file for custody of me when my mother became pregnant with my sister. He had a rough time of things with his stepfather -- all of his sisters were molested, his brothers and himself were beaten, and the guy was an asshole. He himself didn't express anything like this toward me but he'd tell me of things that happened, and I went from thinking my future-stepfather was awesome to being afraid of him. Yet despite it all, my stepfather was patient, and knew that I would eventually get my head straight; things would be okay, in time. He failed that attempt at getting custody, being a single dad, and wasn't able to get reason to have any arrangements changed. I'm not sure how old I was, I don't think I was even in kindergarten yet.

The second attempt he made was a little while after my stepfather had died when I was in the eighth grade, and they started the paperwork at the end of summer. Apparently this time, with his future-wife, they'd found a sleazy lawyer who knew how to file paperwork in such a way that it gets lost until it's time for court -- I had overheard their conversations about it and told my mother because she'd not heard a single word about it. She went down to the county courthouse and checked, and the secretary found the paperwork after searching exhaustively, mis-filed in a place it shouldn't have been even remotely close to. You don't file custody paperwork in a drawer that belongs to warrants (I should know since part of my job involved maintaining warrants) but at least they did find it. My father and his wife pulled quite a mind-fuck on me, but my brain refused to accept it, and I began considering suicide because I was in such bad shape as well as abusing alcohol and weed (hey, eighth grade, that's big shit at that point but I didn't like hallucinogenics), but I mentioned something to my mother and she recognized it as suicidal thoughts surfacing. But hell, to make themselves look good, they even started going to church.

I saw the family doctor we'd had from back before he'd even delivered me, got checked in that night on his advice and spent two weeks in the hospital, then a few months outpatient. Honestly, it was just a matter of them being able to help me sort through the bullshit and learn how to cope with that.

And while I was in there, on the doctor's advice, I called him, told him what I thought of him, and... well, at the time, I was confused. He hung up on me because I told him that I had hated him. I didn't hate him anymore, but I really really really strongly disliked him. In retrospect... I hadn't shown him any signs of this, before. How could he know? And things were pretty cold between us after that. I still went over there for the most part, but my mother and I (and my sister) moved out of state without so much as bothering to tell him we were going. The last time, after all, he'd pulled this shit. I didn't want a repeat and the failure to tell him was on my insistence. He'd sent me letters and called once in a while, but the letters were telling me not to abuse drugs and whatnot. I looked at them, went WTF and threw them out. Only two or three letters were sent and I never wrote back.

As time went by, we talked on the phone occasionally. Rarely. Then he came and visited. And... he'd changed. With the religious stuff... well, no surprise there, she quit going right off the bat and so did her kids. But for some reason, he didn't. He kept going. He attended some parenting classes. He realized where he'd gone wrong and how badly he'd fucked up. And he was so very sorry that he had messed me up when he should have been there for me instead.

It took me a long time, but I forgave him, and it was not an easy thing to do. I eventually moved back up to where I used to live, and for a while stayed at his house, and stayed in contact too. I haven't been good at staying in contact, though. And then a bunch of insane things happened and I ended back up where we'd moved to in the first place.

I'll call him, in the morning. I don't know why I've been putting it off. Thank you, /tg/.

>>9304217
My father died when I was thirteen. I've made peace with myself and moved on.

Only took me 6 years to do so.

ALSO FUCK YOU FLOOD DETECTION.

I'm done now.

Since innocent anons are getting flack for my own little sob story, I'll make the situation a little more clear.

When my parents finally admitted to themselves that they couldn't 'fix' me my father kicked me out when I was 17. I had $100 some odd dollars in my purse, was going to high school, and had a part time job at McDonalds in a town with a population in the hundreds. A part time job at a local fast food place in a town near a major highway between two larger cities has some pretty high rents. So, off to do the whole crashing at friends on a semi regular basis. Finally found a place to stay, with some older kids (20 is still a kid) but they did drugs.

Druggies start not trusting you if you don't partake, and homeless in a small town vs. trying some H and having a place to live was not a hard choice. Wasn't too long before I was doing other stuff to support my habit and my rent. Only took 5 years before Ii nearly get myslef killed. Spent most of six months in state custody rehab.

As a kid, my dad and I never hit it off. We would go out, try to have fun, but he would get far too pissed off for me or something and I would go back to my mom's house (they were divorced). On the other hand, my sister despised my mom and always enjoyed time with our dad.

It eventually got to a point where I would stop seeing him for weeks or months on end, refusing to even talk to him on the phone. I just didn't care about him. While my sister would go out with my dad, learning how to drive, ect, I would stay at home either doing homework or doing jack shit on the computer.

Then, sometime around 7th grade, my mother had a long talk with him about how I was starting to lose all interest in him. I don't know how it happened, but from that point on we started spending much more time together. Sometimes he would just pick me up in his car, and we would drive around for an hour or two just talking, eventually parking infront of the lake and eating cheap junk food. At one point I became very dehydrated for whatever reason, and had to stay home the entire weekend in bed while my mom, stepdad, and sister had to go to ski lessons. That whole weekend my dad stayed with me, taking care of me. We even read some passages of the Zombie Survival Guide together.

About 2-3 weeks later, my mom walked in and told me my dad died. He has suffered a terrible back injury as a policemen, and had numerous surgeries to try and fix it. His last one required strong medication, and he drank some wine with it, which ended up killing him. Apparently, he died falling head-first into the toilet.

Life is a bitch.

>>9308485
Spent the next few years in a little studio apartment, working retail, keeing to myself and stuggling with the lovely things heroin does to your body and mind. Had a couple of one night stands, but otherwise alone, no computer, no friends worthy of the name. Read a whole bunch, scribbled stories on notebooks, taught myslef to draw badly.

I was at the library pickijg up another stack of books and saw a guy in the study room. Sitting on a chair, legs folded into what looked painful position. I went and read a book waiting for the bus. He sat therre for two hours, and the got up and met a couple of other guys and a girls, all carrying the large flat books or backpacks. They comandeered a table and started rolling dice, talking quietly while this skinny guy who sat doing nothing for 2 hours set up a screen and spoke to them with a smile. I wandered over, curious, and sat in on my first session of AD&D and met an actual zen master.

Three years later.....

>>9305214


>hooray traditional gender roles

ftfy.

men are becoming way too effeminate and it's destroying the first world.

>>9308485
Fix what? The fact that you're a thieving junkie?

DIAF

>>9308514
That's why they're supposed to warn you that you don't drink any alcohol, ANY, with those medications. They're supposed to basically warn you when they prescribe, when you pick it up, and it's on the bottle beside.

Small amounts of alcohol (a single beer) can MASSIVELY fuck you up with certain meds...

>>9308654
Some people pull themselves out of the hole they've dug. Apparently, she did. Just as others I know have (though with meth, not heroin).

Your trolling form is terrible, try again later.

>>9308639

Wait what?

I think everyone could use more affectionate hugs.

>>9308639

>>9308514

> Life is a bitch.

you reconciled and made peace and had some great fucking times together. sounds like things worked out in the end. i'm willing to bet your dad went out a lot happier than he would have otherwise.

My dad's an EX alcoholic/drug addict who now has paranoia disorder/OCD due to massive alcoholism and cocaine abuse. He's been off coke for like 20+ years but alcoholism for only 19.

He has moments of being genuinely nice, has always offered to help me with women, but most of the time he's fucking insane or just off the wall or yelling at someone in the family about something that is most likely his fault.

I still care about him, and I don't wish him any harm however I know I'll be a better father because of him, and I will never let any kind of substance alter my mind and ruin a potentially happy relationship with my kids.

Don't fucking get into drugs (not including pot). Don't become an abuser, it ruins your body, it ruins your mind. Don't believe people who say drugs/alcohol only bring out already existing medical issues, they are WRONG.

>>9308674
I'm not trolling, she's just being a cunt. My parents beat me until I was too big for them to hurt with anything short of a frying pan. They called me every name in the book; I hated them and wished they would die since I was twelve but I still treated them with goddamned respect. Sure, I could have easily slit their throats and I fantasized about it every night. I wouldn't have felt guilty in the least, but you still respect your goddamn parents.

Daddy's little girl merely tells us that her parents kicked her out and expects us to side with her. Who knows why they kicked her out? But I know that parents won't kick you out before you turn 18 unless you do something horrible. Trust me, my parents have made that empty threat often enough that I know that there are far too many legal problems for it to be worthwhile.

>>9308610
Three years lter I had a bunch or REAL friemds, a computer, roleplaying game nights, and someone who taught me more about people than any 8 year college course ever could. Since I finally understand my parents a little better, I decide it's time to go talk to them.

Now mind you, inall that time, I lived in the same small town, got arrested, hospitialized, kicked an addiction, whored myself, and got a goddamned clue, there had been no attempt to find me, contact me, or write a letter. I wasn't hiding, I know the cops contacted my parents, I had a phone number listing, the whole works. So I find out my dad is dying from cancer from my parent's neighbor, go to the hospital, and look at a haggard, wheezing wreck of a man and his tragic housewife. People who didn't have anything to say to their daughter after kicking her out of the house for being what she was. So I told them. I told them I understood their pain, the cruelty of not being able to belive they'd never have grankids....

>>9308738
>My parents where horrible, and I took it in the ass, and she's wrong for being a different person

Lay off, guy.

My father left when I was five. Physically, that is. Emotionally, he was barely around as a parent to begin with.

Mom woke me up the night he left. It was late. He said he was going to get a haircut. I didn't know why he was telling me this after bedtime, or why mom was crying.

That was twenty years ago.

For a few years there were the usual court-mandated weekend visits, plus holiday custody. The weekend visits slowly turned into every other weekend, the holiday visits stopped, and eventually I stopped seeing him around the time I was supposed to enter highschool.

Every year since then, he called and left a message for me on my birthday.

Last month, after listening to his yearly message, I called him back and, after a short conversation, asked him not to call me anymore.

While I can appreciate the thought of mending fences and staying in touch with parents, I don't have that option. I have an emotionally detached, estranged father that never really gave a damn about his son. I don't have a dad.

>>9308753
If it was just that, it would be one thing. After I left as soon as I turned 18, I realized that other parents aren't like that and that other kids didn't treat their parents with respect. Fine.

What bugs me is that DLG is obviously leaving something out of the story if she got kicked out of the house when she was 17.

>>9308738
Bitch, please. I've got a cousin who just got kicked out because her mom is a crazy bitch (to the point of installing a dead bolt on the outside of the trailer, oh, and she's a hoarder who fills her kids' rooms with shit to boot) and will report the dad to child services if he takes his daughter in because he lives in an RV.

>>9308784
Not necessarily. I had a friend in Toledo who was disowned because she came out of the closet.

I've known a couple others (lol internet) in Texas, Oregon and Ontario who had been kicked out for various reasons.

Don't lay the blame solely on the kid. Sometimes, parents do illogical things too. One turned her daughter over to state care after the exorcism didn't stop her from writing down stories in notebooks or drawing art; one was in fact kicked out by his mother for being gay, and had to move in with his grandparents who remain in the dark because he's afraid they'll kick him out too.

Dad here.

Just letting you all know how proud I'm of my boy.

>>9308794
Then your cousin should fucking go to Child Services herself because her mom is breaking the goddamned law.

It's like raping a girl and then threatening to call the police if she gets an abortion.

I have a pretty ok relationship with my Dad. I was born with a few brothers, and dad tried to love us all equally but eventually one brother felt like he was being left out and (he had mental problems) tried to kill my Dad while he was home one day.

I remember getting home from school one day to find the police in front of the house and the paramedics working on dad as he sat on his favorite golden throne.

>>9308752
I tell them I understand why they did it, why they didn't want to see me or hear from me. I tell my dying father it's okay - no, I didn't forgive him - and I understand what it was all about.

I tell my father and mother I love them - no hugs, no tears on ~my~ face - and leave.

Because, what the fuck do you say to people who don't want you in their life because you're not what they wanted you to be? You either turn vicious, or you tell them you understand and respect their wishes, and admit that you still love them even if they can't be bothered to spare a passing glance to you in the middle of the hell that is life in a small town.

As for all you people saying "you're a stupid cunt and you're fucked up and you're a bitch".....what did you expect? A well adjusted human being? A normal person? Someone with only kindness and love in their heart after living through a slice of hell and coming out pretty okay for a twisted, semi-psychotic freak?

My father at least got to hear the words "I understand and I love you" before he died from the mouth of someone who didn't owe him that at all.

Who's the callous and cruel person again?

>>9308845
Which will result in her younger brother, in the hands of the crazy bitch, getting taken into the crazier foster child system on top of already being a special needs kid. Yeah, bro. Social services most definitely is not going to fuck up the situation even more than it already is.

>>9308846

I see what you did right here, you clever man.

>>9308841
lrn2 child abandonment laws

Unless this girl came out when she was a baby. An impressive feat, I must say.

>>9308877
>It's better to live on the streets than to go to foster care. lololol i troll u
>guvment cant do anthing rite

That's a very interesting point. It's nice to see that the libertarians are out in full force.

>>9308738
They kicked me out because they finally realized I would never, ever marry a nice white boy in church and pop out grandbabies 24/7.

>>9308890
Nope. Nice thought though. Her mother went nuts, daughter was taken by the state temporarily, mother shrieked shit the whole block hear about disowning her.

She had an aunt assigned as a foster mother though, her biological was pronounced unfit.

>>9308923
Actually, she's living with a mutual uncle, a lawyer, who's going through the procedures of getting her brother away as well without going through the foster parent program.

>>9308952
Shit, man. Why do people like this exist?

>>9308965
So, good ending. The state stepped in and she didn't become a junkie whore. W00t. That sure proved me wrong.
>>9308952
Once again, lrn2 child abandonment laws

I always make time for m father no matter what, same with my mother.

I mean, fuck, why the hell wouldn't I?

>>9308970
That's nice. But if there wasn't a lawyer uncle, then foster care is batter than the streets.

>>9308952
Geez, it's not like your parents are obligated to accept you if you choose to actively go against their wishes and pursue whatever irrational bullshit you think you want at the time. There's nothing wrong with being a productive member of society. There is everything wrong with being a crackwhore because daddy wasn't nice enough to you.

When you reject the social mores/standards of people or society, don't be surprised when they reject you in turn, you vapid whore.

In short, fuck you, ALL of your problems are self-inflicted. Had you lived an honorable life I might have some measure of sympathy for you, harlot.

>>9309006
Actually no, the aunt turned out to be a total bitch and she was technically homeless for a good long time because of it, the only thing the aunt didn't do that the mom did was threaten her with a cleaving knife.

Technically, by which I mean she would crash at friends' places. No, she didn't end up a junkie whore, but your other point is rendered invalid. Good night.

>>9309035
>harlot
>implying anyone really uses that term unless they're trolling

>>9308890
Ummm, isn't everyone a baby when they come out? I don't think I want to meet the woman who gives birth to a full-grown man.

>>9309035
hahaowow.jpg

SOMEONE'S mad. Pretty sure it's you.

>>9309020
True. Not reporting to foster care was mostly for the well being of her mentally retarded younger brother, who is doted on by the mother and very likely would have wound up institutionalized if authorities had gotten involved.

>>9309055
>posting my honest opinion
>get called a troll

Sure, let's go with that. I use terms like that all the time. Harlots, whoresons, etc. Makes things interesting.

>>9309042
So, you really don't think that the program that took her away from her mother could take her away from her aunt?

Sure, that's a logical boundary for them to refuse to cross, "it's fine to take her away from an abusive mother, but an abusive aunt?!? That's crazy!"

>>9304217

I try to avoid talking to my dad as much as I can because he is a manipulative asshole. And because he told my his 6 week vacation on Guadeloupe is more important than my university education. Different priorities, I guess.

>>9309056

Is the punniness here intentional? Doesn't matter. I facepalmed anyway.

>>9309063
I'm not mad, but I am amused that you're reduced to tripfagging and white-knighting for a self-confessed crackwhore.

Maybe you need to start sucking some dicks and the cycle will be complete.

>>9309065
So, you're one of these idiots who think that retards should be allowed to live? That is basically one of the only things that I agree with my parents about. Retards are nothing but a drain on society, they never produce anything of value and they make everyone uncomfortable.

inb4 OMG ur a troll

>>9309093
>Implying I haven't been tripfaggan and whiteknightan for a while now

>>9309104
I need to go to bed because I have class tomorrow, but I speak in all earnestness when I say that retards are nothing but human waste in the most literal sense of the word.

>>9309104
Her decision, not mine. Infer from it what you will.

Pro-tip: Institutionalizing him would have wound up costing society more than leaving him where he was. At least right now he's a family problem rather than tax-payers' problem.

>>9309035
>>9309070
Gee, you sound a lot like my dad did.

Hope your son turns out to be hetrosexual. I'd love to see the child abuse report on that one if he isn't.

Back to anon with me.

>>9309133
Last post

I guess that I'm glad that the cost of raising the tard is going to the lawyer uncle instead of the government, but still. I have absolutely no empathy for anyone who supports luxuries for retards. State care is more than it deserves (and don't say "it's a girl" or "it's a boy" because I really don't care. It's still an it).

>>9309056
YEah, it's not an impressive feat at all.

>>9309035
Dude, 17 year old with a job, going to school, deserves to be disowned and ignored because she likes girls?

Or didn't you get the part where her parents ignored the police coming to their door, the time she spent in rehab and hospital, and pretty much ignored all contact for years to the point of not bothering to inform her "oh, your dad's dying"?

At least she had the courtesy to say "it's okay, I know you kicked me out because you didn't like what I was" and tell her parents she loved them.

Cause it's pretty obvious they couldn't give a flying fuck about her.

>>9309147
You know what? Your dad was probably a decent guy, you were just too fucking stupid, vapid and selfish to realize what you did to him with your bullshit lifestyle choices. You were too fucking introverted to spare some empathy and understanding on your own fucking father, instead choosing to wallow in self-pity and bad life choices ("If I fuck myself up, it's like I'm getting back at DADDY, TOTALLY AMIRITE?")

And yes, you made a decision to live the way you did. I was homeless too, and I didn't start fucking around like that, and I damn sure didn't fuck my life up because of it. Know what I did? I grew the fuck up and moved on with my life.

Finally, if I have a child who chooses to be homosexual, that's fine. Beyond that, they can choose to either abide by my standards and rules or get the fuck out. I do not have to put up with someone else's fuckups. Sure, I'd love them, but I am not going to aid and abet someone who wants to break the law and live dishonorably. If they love me back, they can fucking show a baseline level of fucking respect and not act like impudent fucking children at an age where it just isn't appropriate anymore.

In short, fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, and fuck you. I hope you never post here again. You are a filthy, loathsome excuse for a human being, and you deserve every ounce of misery and suffering you have inflicted upon yourself.

Social worker fag here.

Yes, kids are tossed out of their home at all ages for stuff like this. And if it happens in a tiny town and/or in a poor rural state, social services might not have the manpower to deal with it. The cops sure as hell ain't going to give a damn beyond dropping them off on someone else's door step.

Also, yes, I save the lives of retards, poor people, minorities, and poor retarded minorities on a weekly basis. The delicious tears of rage from libertarians and/or stormfronters is one of the best parts of this job.

>>9309283

Better to live in hate than happiness, I guess. Do you enjoy your life? Your judgments, your spite, do they bring you satisfaction?

>>9309319
Absolutely they do. Does being a pandering, lawful-stupid moron who supports I-rolled-a-natural-one-at-life-crackwhores make you happy? If it does you're either a god-tier white knight or just terminally stupid.

>>9309373
All the stress, trauma, and problems it causes are more than worth it when entitled self-righteous white middleclass/rich dudes fly off the fucking handle about it.

>>9309283
>In short, fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, and fuck you. I hope you never post here again. You are a filthy, loathsome excuse for a human being, and you deserve every ounce of misery and suffering you have inflicted upon yourself.

Oh man. You're so mad. Why so mad, bro? Cause you so mad, lol

>>9309304
The guy who hates retards is definitely not a libertarian, he basically used libertarian as an insult.

>>9309407
Yeah, right here:
>>9308923

>>9309422
how do you know its the same guy

>>9309407
>>9309422

I realize this, just that libertarians are the other branch of people other than morally indigent dudes who'd love to see me and all the lumpenproles die in a fire.

>>9309373

I'm not the guy you were yelling at, broski. I could care less about all that. Seeing as how I'm not what you describe, I wouldn't really know if it makes me happy or not.

I'll say this much, though - if what I find makes me happy is something you find stupid, I invite you to declare me so. I honestly don't mind what folks think of me. I enjoy life. That's pretty much all you need to think about, isn't it? Whether or not you can look at yourself in the mirror and say 'Yeah, I don't really feel I lack much.' and mean it. If you can say that, you know your life's a good one.

'Least that's how I've always figured it.

>>9309386
Don't misinterpret what I'm saying here. I'm not "angry" with you/the crackwhore/whoever the fuck I'm addressing now, anymore than I would be angry with a piece of gum that found it's way onto my shoe.

I'm sitting in bed, calmly listening to King Crimson and watching Adult Swim, having a good time pointing out the fact that you suck and should probably feel some remorse about your actions.

You aren't even worth my anger, my rhetoric may be strong, granted, but if anything I pity you more than anything. Mainly because I was in a similar situation but I handled it like a civilized human being. I'm not rich or even middle class, but you can't put a price on dignity, which is something I still have,despite my fall from grace and wealth, and that's something you'll never have, ever again.

Enjoy your life, Miss Crackwhore. Really, sincerely. I mean that. All of you white knights standing up for this tramp could stand to do a gut-check and self-evaluation. Is this shit even worth defending?

>>9309459
>Is this shit even worth defending?

Is the girl living her life, the way she likes, and is happy about, a the very least, where it's going? Sure. There isn't one way to live your life, so there is no reason to take a shitfit if someone is different from you. Like you, mister I'm-so-mad.

>>9309436
Basically it seemed to me that he was mostly pissed at the implicit distrust of government institutions. Like a Tau, he was devoted to the Greater Good (there, linked it to /tg/).

>>9309430
It's called context.

>>9309459
I'm socialfag, not crackwhore.

And yes, I enjoy what I do. I'm likely going to be moving on to private investigations soon, specializing in child welfare and tracking down dads who skip out on child support payments.

>>9309479
You need a new trick, tripfag. That one-liner isn't working anymore, and your platitudes are starting to fall flat.

I agree, there isn't a singular path to happiness or success, but objectively looking at this person's life leaves me with the idea that she either deliberately set out to fail as much as humanly possible, or was really just this retarded. (Then, to top it off, she thought she could get sympathy by posting here. Big mistake.)

I'm pretty sure your thought process is as follows. "Oh, a girl who's just as fucked up as I am! Oh jolly! If I defend her honor on the internet! I won't look so bad by comparison!....Right, everyone?..."

>>9309479

Exactly. I feel no regret defending one's right to live according to one's own standards. The only exception I as an individual have a right to take is that of opposing the violation of others' right to the same freedom - each human life is owed the chance for self-determination.

Don't get me wrong - I'm not some inane left-swung hippie carrying on about how we can't judge each other or anything. Indeed, that would only be weakness. If we are all to live our own lives with our own values, we must all have sufficient confidence in them to endure criticism and judgment from those who do not share our values. To that end, >>9309459
has every right to carry on as he has been, and everyone else in this thread has the right to tell him he's a fucking idiot. Me, I shan't do either, because I could care less.

The point is, live. Live such a life that you don't feel dissatisfaction in moments of reflection - and if you do, change something. Never fear to take your own direction, and never fear what others might think of that - accept the positive reception, roll with the negative, but never allow yourself to follow a beaten path unless you feel satisfied with doing so. Find what you love and live it. That's all anyone needs to know.

>>9309504
Congratulations, I hope you enjoy tracking down men who are victims of a court system and divorce laws which are overwhelmingly in favor of women.

Faggots like you are why I am getting a prenup before I wed.

>>9309529
While I do find your homphobia tiresome, overall she's a complete failure at life.

A lot of people don't get parental support after they turn eighteen or even sooner. Don't always turn out to be crackwhore though.

>>9309283
>>9309459
You really are precious.

You seem to think I blamed all the shit that happened to me on my parents.

Did I say that? Did I ever once suggest that?

I haven't any regrets....not even about the previous parts of my life. It seems to upset you a whole lot more than it upsets me. Which is pitiful, really. You consider me to be less than you because I made some bad life choices and learned to grow far, far beyond them? Or is it that I made my poor dying daddy cry because I loved him and my mother more than they ever loved me?

Remorse for telling them that I understood why they'd disown me? Remorse for telling them I loved them? Remorse for accepting they didn't want me and walking back out of my life so they can get on with their lives? Remorse for what, exactly?

Dignity....oh, I see. I'm less than you because you're using your honor and dignity as a shield to protect you from the cruel realities of life. Did you steal? Did you beg? Did you sleep in the cold and rain? I am glad your honor and dignity are intact.

Too bad you sold your soul for it.

>>9309529

You're contradicting yourself. You say there isn't a single path to happiness or success, and you claim objectivity, but by paragraph next you're passing judgments again. Working from the premise that everyone in this thread who disagrees with you is fucked up somehow and either thinks so and is trying to convince themselves otherwise or is delusional and unaware of said fuckup(s) contradicts any claim you could make to objectivity. You're clearly applying your own values as absolute means of determination. Objective, you are not.

>>9309529
>I need to shit on people's on the internet, because I'm a BIG MAN, and I'm just so GREAT!...Right guise?

See, I can strawman too, bro.

>Girl gets thrown out by parents
>Girl falls onto hard times, but pulls out of it, starts to get life back on track
>Cut ties with the parents that put her into the situation.

I can't see what's so wrong with it. I can't see why she's just a bad person. Shit happens, people screw up, and not everyone is perfect. To think you "objective" look at someone's life, and tell them that they're an idiot, makes you look like an arrogant bastard that for one reason or another needs to tell people why they are wrong.

>>9309545
Sure, do whatever the hell you want. Feel free to fuck up your life and make things difficult for everyone else around you. Deliberately make bad decisions. It's YOUR body after all, you should be able to snort and screw till the cows come home, and nobody should be able to question it. Society will pick up the pieces, right? People should accept you for whatever kind of monster you choose to make yourself into, after all. Who are they to judge your lifestyle choices!

...

>>9309559
Thanks!

I'll be seeing you soon, anon. Think of me when the condom breaks.

>>9309590
Oh, now THAT's hilarious.....

Homosexuality=horrible remorseless monster because she went and told dying dad who ignored her existence for 6 years that she can live with the fact he can't love her and she still loves him.

Pretty clear cut who the monster here is all right.

>>9309567
You're a failure at life because you're a troll who's clearly just trying to jerk the heartstrings of a shockingly sentimental board. Your story is clearly fake, It's full of holes. Waiting two hours for a bus from the library? puh-leaze. A quiet D&D game. Yeah, right. Oh yeah, let's not forget that you were apparently a well-read, junkie prostitute who turned her life around for Dungeons and Dragons. With a zen master Dm, let's not forget that detail. Oh yeah, despite being drug-free before you came out, after you were kicked out you were able to easily move in with a bunch of other addicts.

Then, after you miraculously kicked the habit, you were ohsocool and forgave your parents in a totally badass way. At your father's death bed.

Tell me, was there an explosion when you walked out of the room and then you put your sunglasses on without turning around?!

You're so cool!!

>>9309590

Perhaps you missed the second sentence of that very post, but the violation of others' right to their own freedom of determination is abhorrent and disgusting to me. A person burdened by caring for an ungrateful addict can't pursue their own life very effectively, can he?

You're quite right - leaving other people to pick up the pieces of one's selfish excesses is distasteful and unbecoming. Living for one's own happiness in life does not mean one should expect to get away with living it to the exception of others. If one inflicts one's lifestyle on others as a detriment or a burden, that is certainly to be opposed.

Living for oneself does not validate living on the backs of others.

>>9309567
You're right about one thing. My honor and dignity IS a shield, and I held on to it. I didn't cast it aside the moment things got tough, I didn't whore myself out for money, and I didn't start using drugs as a crutch.

I hate my father, I hate him because no matter what I did, I was never good enough for him. Guess what? I didn't go out and suck a million dicks and start freebasing crack. I GREW UP AND I MOVED ON.

If you think your failure to hold onto something valuable and noble in the face of adversity makes you a better person than me, feel free. Just know that your opinions were null and void the moment you sold your humanity for drugs, acceptance and petty vengeance.

>>9309648
So daddy's little girl is a pathos-etic mary sue?

Seems reasonable enough to me.

>>9309304
>>Social worker fag here.

FFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-

>>9309648
A lesbian gamer who used to be a junkie on the streets after she was disowned for being gay doesn't seem like something a fa/tg/uy would make up!!!

>>9309679
Ah yes, one of the "Pure". I've seen people like you before. You're the kind of person who can never be wrong, never be corrected, and believe whole heartedly and absolutely that his beliefs are correct because to believe otherwise would shatter the foundations upon which you build your fragile little ego.

Not that there is anything wrong with that. But you're the kind of person that would turn his back on anyone in a heartbeat if they don't adhere to your mythical perfect standards. The only good and right thing to do is what you believe is good and right.

I wonder how many "friends" you left in broken, shattered piles along the road of your life.

>>9309595
You wish I were that retarded, don't you?

You're either a self-hating man or a feminist dyke. I hope you enjoy tearing down otherwise honest people who had the misfortune to make a mistake, because I certainly won't be one of them.

>>9309736
Nah, I go after abusive and shitty women too, but I'll be happy to watch you too, anon.

>>9309720
Actually, it sounds exactly like something a fa/tg/uy would make up.

I've heard most of this story before though. So have a lot of oldfags on /tg/.

>>9309679

My, my. Never good enough for daddy, now no-one's above judgment by you. This is a thoroughly shocking and unpredictable development.

Out of curiosity, what is 'humanity' to you?

>>9309754
Wait, so you guys knew that this story was a lie and you did nothing? I've been ignoring her story and just arguing for a while, but you could have just nipped this in the bud!

>>9309752

>>9309784

It's an entertaining vehicle for a wholly more interesting discussion. Whether it's true or not is basically irrelevant to the discussion as it is now, is it not?

>>9309757
Currently? Largely a waste of air.

Of course, I'm a bitter dyke, so what does my opinion matter, after all?

Either way, I think the fact that DLG hasn't shown up in a while supports the idea that she was just lying.

>>9309785
I will anon, this I promise.

>>9309733
Make whatever judgments about me that you want, like I said, I could care less about your opinions, you're sub-human as far as I'm concerned.

I don't hang out with lepers because I don't want leprosy. It's common sense, no self-righteousness or insanity involved.

>>9309807
WUT
THE
FUK
WAS
SHE
THN
KIN

>>9309784
I said the story has been told before. No one's proven it real or not real though angryfag seems to be doing pretty good.

>>9309806
Oh, I'm here. I'm being amused by the not-self-righteous self righteous angry fellow.

>>9309827
Ah, so you're allowed to judge me, but my opinions are invalid? How interesting. Nothing self righteous about that in the slightest.

What about those of us who abhor homophobia but also have no sympathy for crackwhores?

I really don't know which side I'm supposed to be on.

What does /tg/ think about archiving this page?

It's not technically /tg/ related, but it's still pretty epic.

>>9309864
You want to knife socialfag and leave him in a ditch.

And make sure he's dead so his government provided health insurance does not ensure he recovers.

>>9309870
Thanks for telling me what to think. Socialfag, would it be alright with you if I use a hatchet instead of a knife? Knifes bend surprisingly easily in the rib cage.

>>9309757
The strength to choose the hard right over the easy wrong.

The will to overcome impossible odds, even when being told you cannot possibly succeed.

The fortitude to stand against the world, holding on to what you know to be true and just in spite of lies and illusions.

That is humanity. All else is superfluous. Some of you are going to spout some nonsense about "mercy" or "kindness," or "love," but you're wrong. There's a reason Aristotle designated courage as the prime virtue. Without the ability to stand for something, any emotions or desires you feel are meaningless.

>>9309864
I posted the whole tale just to piss of angryfag. I did pretty good too, looks like, despite his claims otherwise.

>>9309827

So what you're saying is, you fear that if you spend time around people who think differently than you do, you might begin to think differently? I find it amusing that you're comparing differences in ideologies with a disease.

But surely anyone possessed of self-belief has little to fear from association with those who believe differently? Surely a man with strong values needn't fear his own confidence in them being shaken by different thinking? Hell, I go to church every Sunday with my mother and have wonderfully intriguing discussions with one of the pastors, and I'm a bloody atheist. Why do I go? Because I enjoy the company and the fun, and I have no doubt in my own beliefs. There's no threat in my associating with these people who think so differently than I.

>>9309901
A broken bottle of thunderbird has more of that authentic street value.

>>9309919
How old were you when you developed this wondrously advanced philosophy of yours, anon? Seems a little advanced for a 17 year old.

>>9309869

For some reason, I concur. Fucked if I know why, but I rather enjoy what this has turned into. Gentlemen, cast your votes, please.

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>>9309930
Ideas, lifestyles, etc. Aren't contagious per se but if you ardently disagree with someone, have nothing in common with them and don't like them as a person, what possible reason do you have to spend time with/around them?

Better to separate yourself from their nonsense and find yourself on your own terms than to seek identity from people who have none on their own.

>>9309919
This is a lovely philosophy you've posted.

I wonder how a 17 year old would react when everything he is told is 'proper and correct' is instead not only a lie, but the most bitter lie that has ever been told.

"God is merciful, just, and loves all people equally, especially his chosen people. Your parents will love you no matter what. Your home is a safe place. You can always come back home, and while you might be disciplines, you will always be welcome. Parents look for their children when their children are in trouble."

Being brought up in the household you were in, DLG might have turned out quite differently.

>>9309938
It would be wondrously advanced of you to provide an alternative instead of being asspained because I happen to have opinions and a worldview contradictory to yours.

>>9309919

Touch the untouchable
Break the unbreakable

ROW, ROW, JUDGE SUM CRACKHEADS

Nah, but seriously, I get what you're saying. I just had to say it.

>>9309970
Shit, I just finished archiving it myself.

>>9309831
Also, I'm the one who pointed out a bunch of holes in the story, not angryfag.

>>9309986

Is it not monstrously arrogant to assume people lack identity simply because theirs is not one you're particularly fond of?

>>9310010
I'm not asking about an alternative. I practice an alternative. I'm asking if you were 17 when you developed this philosophy. Because it's a great philosophy. I just highly doubt that you were 17 when you adopted it.

>>9310033
Not really, considering they do the same to me. Turnabout is fair play.

It's less about passing judgement and more about just not caring, honestly. I wouldn't have cared about the crackwhore's story were it not for the fact that it was offered up in a plea for sympathy, that was when it admittedly struck a chord, but I'm not a sociopathic misanthrope or anything. I really just don't care about most people.

>>9310006

This is the fundamental failing of absolutist moral systems - there isn't any such construct that can both provide functional solutions to all the problems one can reliably expect to have in life (or even all the relatively common or simple ones) and also manage to do so without contradiction or error. Either it's so simplistic or vague as not to apply well on any sort of scale, or it's rife with contradictions and outright errors and untruths.

No system of absolutes can adequately codify human behaviour and values. There simply is no means.

>>9310073
First sentence in the little crackwhore's story.:

>Since innocent anons are getting flack for my own little sob story, I'll make the situation a little more clear.

Sympathy isn't all that precious to her, from what she's said in the past.

>>9310073

Fair enough. That said, the assumption is no more correct just because you're not the only one making it - after all, you clearly have a self-determined identity, yes? Anyone saying otherwise is obviously in error. Why, then, would you not be in error by saying the same about anyone else?

>>9310039
Why is 17 some sort of magical number to you? I'm not even sure what you're getting at with this. Are you accusing me of being immature/underage or are you attempting to have some sort of serious discussion here?

>>9310076
Not surprising that a 17 year old would find such a moral system failing at that point. Might lead them to making some mistakes in their life. Not everyone is as infallible as angryanon claims to be.

Am I the only one who noticed that crackwhore never actually said she was a lesbian? The closest she got was the ambiguous statement, "Daddy's little girl like other daddy's[sic] little girls" which means that she was a daddy's little girl like other daddys' little girls, not that she likes other girls. It's the rest of /tg/ that assumed she was a lesbian and she was more than willing to go along with it.

>>9310122

I, too, wonder where this magic number business is going. Why are you so caught up on the number 17, broski?

>>9310120
Because if at 17 that philosophy was your core living philosophy and you were rendered homeless and destitute at that age your claim or moral superiority might have some validity. I personally have doubts that you were homeless and destitute at the age of 17.

>>9310107
If a tree bears bad fruit. It's probably a fucked up tree. Likewise, if a person has a bad lifestyle, does bad things, and is just generally fucked up all the time. It's safe to assume they're fucked up as well. Granted, it's not 100% but nothing ever is. It isn't unfair to make subjective judgments based on someone's actions or patterns of actions.

>>9310146
17 is the only prime number equal to the sum of the digits of its cube
17^3=4913
4+9+1+3=17

Isn't that enough for you?

>>9310163
anons can't tell the difference between crackwhore and angryfag

>>9310174

I was sort of hoping someone would post an image of Jim Carrey and make a bad joke with it, but I'll take what I can get.

>>9310163
Well then, In answer to your question, yes. I've generally always had this worldview ever since I was old enough to care about these things, but yeah, shortly after my 17th birthday the shit did hit the fan in regards to my life and living situation(s). I can tell the story if you want but I am not going to throw a pity-party on 4chan.

>>9310187
Actually, I can, and that is my point of contention.

If angryfag was destitute and homeless at 17 as crackwhore claimed to be (because he has already stated he has been homeless and destitute but provided no age) and used his superior morals to survive it then I am willing to admit his claim of moral superiority over crackwhore. Crackwhore stated she made bad decisions at that or near the age of 17 (and who has not?) but those decisions are what angryanon claims make her a worthless person and allows him to claim moral superiority.

I am curious if his superior moral philosophy had fully developed at the same age she was forced to deal with situations of familial rejection, homelessness and destitution or if his homelessness and destitution were an occurrence that happened after that age and after he had developed his morally superior philosophy.

>>9310174
That's not even true. What about 1?

Yes, one is a prime number, it's divisible only by one and itself.

>>9310245
There was another anon (or maybe you) who mistook angryfag for crackwhore (or maybe the other way around), otherwise I wouldn't have even commented on it.

>>9310331
can't find it right now.

>>9310201
We may as well hear your tale. We heard crackwhore's.

>>9310355
He was a drow from the underdark, but his parents disapproved of him because he displayed chaotic good tendencies instead of chaotic evil. He left the underdark (when he was seventeen) and was immediately persecuted by racist humans. But he found a talisman that allows him to turn into a wolferret at will. He rides around on rollerblades and wields a katana and shurikens (he doesn't take a penalty for using them without exotic weapon proficiency because they're ancestral).

There, he's almost as much of a sue as crackwhore.

>>9310389
Ah, no.

He's LAWFUL good. He's a moralfag, after all.

>>9310408
Well, he was chaotic until he turned 17, then he became lawful.

>>9310439
Okay, I'll buy that.

I am about to piss several people off with this image, I am sure.

>>9310576
Holy shit!

And is Xiombarg's Storyteller a woman? Too tired and busy to actually research for myself.

>>9310634
Supposedly yes but that doesn't mean she wrote the actual thing that set angryanon off. She does shit like this when she's pissy.

This is the picture she supposedly posted of herself as a result of a bet.

>>9310701
I'm still skeptical about her being a real women, but ok, at least this supports my theory that crackwhore is a mary sue.

>>9310576
>>9310701
Jerk.

>>9310757
Eh, I was writing most of that from my phone while at work. I'll be more careful next time.

Still funny watching angryanon wail though.

>>9310810
Would you mind telling us if the original crackwhore post was you or not?

>>9310839
Not me, sorry. I haven't seen my father since I was six. He moved and I've never known where. I keep in touch with my mom, and she knows I love her. She's going senile, slowly but surely.

/tg/ I was almost certain about joining the military after this summer, but after reading through this thread I almost can't. I told my parents and even though they said they would support me, you could see so much disappointment and sadness in their eyes. Thank you for making me feel like I can cry again. I'm going to go home this weekend.