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    469 KB Zeonquest Pt 94 I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/18/11(Fri)12:08 No.13947243  
    Oh god when will it end?

    You are Commander David Lister, ace mobile suit pilot for the Legitimate Principality of Zeon and commanding officer for the now depleted Nachtmaren Unit.

    After a terrible battle against a seemingly unstoppable Federation Counterattack in space and on the ground you've lost friends, and been forced to join Dozle's command structure in Solomon.
    After finishing up your affairs in Pezun it's time to make your way to the Space Fortress that's been the guard for the rest of Zeon space since the start of the war.

    Before you head off, you check in with Ookawara who is undergoing the rapid repairs of your mobile suits. As usual he's done a miraculous job, and whilst the modification work on your Mobile Suit isn't finished, the remaining work he can do in transit as he's already made up the bespoke parts with Pezuns MS workshops.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/18/11(Fri)12:12 No.13947276
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    Also, PO Bernard Wiseman has made his decision regarding his invitation to take part in a secret operation with the Cyclops Special Forces Unit. He has decided to go, so it looks like here is where you shall part ways.
    "I feel like I'm letting you down here. I mean, this is just after we lost Hovis, Calvin is still in hospital as well..."

    "If I didn't think you could handle this assignment, or that the unit couldn't handle your absence I never would have brought the offer to your attention in the first place Bernie."

    "Ouch! You sure don't sugar coat things do you sir?"

    "Just don't get killed. Keep your head on a swivel, try to be at least two moves ahead at all times, and don't go for cross counters: heat hawks are no match for beam sabers, and above all else, whatever you do, never EVER...sorry what Zol? Your mobile suit? THE FUCK DID YOU DO TO YOUR MOBILE SUIT!?"

    "...sir!" Bernie whines as you notice the bizarre customisation Zol must have blackmailed someone to perform.

    "Well, in anycase, play it smart and safe, pay attention to what the Cyclops team says, they are the experts at this sort of thing, but don't discount your own experience, you don't live through things like Jaburo or Odessa without picking up some skills... well, good luck I guess."

    "And to you sir."

    You both salute each other, and you then have to tell the rest of the unit what's going on. Everyone whilst sad to see him go, understands and doesn't protest. Nell doesn't seem to be paying attention and spends the time folding up a paper aeroplane which she absently tosses. In the zero gravity it flies in strange and unpredictable patterns into the distance...
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)12:12 No.13947282
    >>13947243
    Okay, so we have Nell in the Elmeth Prototype as our MA support.

    Did we offload the salvaged Pixy Gundam to Pezun's scientists ( I can't recall )? If not, do so now. They might be able to find some interesting new Federation tech in there.

    Also, since Calvin is effectively going to be in a hospital for the rest of the war, can we get an EW specialist to join the unit? Maybe someone from a destroyed unit? Or will that be done at Solomon?
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)12:13 No.13947289
    So apologize what would be the possibility to loot the Elmeth and install the psycommu and the bits on the OH?
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)12:15 No.13947306
    >>13947289
    I suppose it's something to consider, however the OH will be a bigger target than the Elmeth, even if it has better defenses.


    Damnit! Remind Bernie to make sure he knows his cover story, and to at least do some cursory research on where his cover story places his hometown to be.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/18/11(Fri)12:16 No.13947314
    >>13947276

    ---OMAKE---

    Bernard reacted instantly when he was poked in the back of the head. Turning around, he saw a paper aeroplane, it's nose now dented.
    Curious, he plucked the folded paper as it hung in zero-g, and noticing it had writing written upon it, unfolded it.

    "Don't use an australian accent. Give the Luna accent a try instead."

    Bernard scratched his head. How odd.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/18/11(Fri)12:18 No.13947333
    As it looks like you might be finally able to leave you get a priority message on your pager.

    Calvin is now awake.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)12:18 No.13947337
    >>13947314
    fuuuuuuuuuuu
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)12:19 No.13947344
    >>13947306
    By giving the bits to the OH it now has the same firepower as a gwazine.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)12:20 No.13947353
    >>13947333
    Alright, let's go and see Calvin. Going to Solomon can wait a few minutes.
    >> Zeta Zaku 02/18/11(Fri)12:23 No.13947390
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    >>13947314
    oh nell you so meta.

    As for bits, the ship wouldn't have enough room for that. The Elmeth is roughly a quarter the Zanzibar's size. Battleships aren't built with that much extra space for no reason. There's also the fact that the Elmeth isn't really ours to begin with, just on loan to us from Flanagan.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)12:23 No.13947398
    >>13947344
    Well, I was just thinking that putting the bits and the psycommu system on the Outer Heaven would provide Nell with a much more heavily defended place from which to manipulate the bits.
    My only concern is that the OH is a capital ship and would have a harder time hiding than the Elmeth Prototype, since stealth and being so far outside the combat zone as to be undetected is its primary defenses.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)12:25 No.13947415
    >>13947398
    Well that's mostly because if it's found it's dead but the outer heaven can handle it.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)12:28 No.13947448
    >>13947314

    Oh Nell, you crazy.

    Also, I'm calling it now. Zol or Straus is going to bite it next.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)12:30 No.13947467
    We also need to make sure solomon has enough missile to handle beam chaff
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)12:31 No.13947484
    >>13947289

    Why bother looting the Elmeth?

    If you're that worried, keep the Elmeth in the MA bay and she can remote the bits from there. Bonus: If something happens to the OH, she can launch clear and still have bit control.

    Now, if we can rig something that'll give the Elmeth a boosted recharging system from being able to draw off the OH's reactors instead of it's own, there's a thought. Docking bits inside the OH launch bay is probably no harder than relinking them to the Elmeth one.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)12:33 No.13947511
    >>13947484
    It's because of last week namefag that wanted to install beam chaff on the Elmeth "in case it get found" I mean fuck that if they want it so much installing bit on the OH is the best solution.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)12:35 No.13947530
    >>13947511
    If the Elmeth is any where within a mile of an enemy unit, that it is doing something wrong.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)12:35 No.13947532
    >>13947484
    That's actually a good idea.
    Sure it's jury-rigged, but it's one step towards giving the OH it's own bit complement.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)12:36 No.13947538
    >>13947530
    than it is*
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/18/11(Fri)12:39 No.13947576
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    Whilst awake, Calvin is still in intesive care. Hooked up to a saline drip, gauzebandages and patches over his left eye, and with his jaw set in a brace, Calvin although concious, is unable to speak, so he's had to make do with a small whiteboard and felt pen.

    "How are you doing Calvin?" you ask.

    Scribble

    'He's gone isn't he?'

    "Yes Calvin."

    Scribble

    'I told him to stay back"

    Scribble

    'The recon goes forward - MA spprt hangs back'

    "Well Calvin, I guess Hovis just-"

    More scribbling

    "It was meant for me."

    "..." for a few seconds, you aren't sure how to respond to that.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)12:39 No.13947584
    >>13947353

    Seconding a visit to Calvin. Oh god... does Calvin know Hovis is dead? Perhaps bring Jol or El? They're likely better at comforting if its needed.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/18/11(Fri)12:40 No.13947591
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    >>13947576
    "Calvin, I can't say for certain what was going through Hovis's head at the end. All I know is, that everyone believes in something. Something that is worth paying everything for. And whatever it was that Hovis believed in, in those moments, he decided that it was worth it. He made the decision that you, and me, if I'm honest, were worth the price he had to pay. So now in return we have duty to that man to make sure not just in this war, but for the rest of our lives that he gave us, that he did not sell his life cheaply, and that his sacrifice that day was worth what he had to pay. Do you understand?"

    He tries to write on the white-board but can't as his hand is shaking too much and he's crying too hard.

    "It was not your fault Calvin. You have done nothing act as an exemplary soldier, you have done everything asked of you and more, even when more was beyond your ability to give. To me you have been as much a hero and credit to this team as Zolomon or Jolyne or myself. Do you understand me? We will meet again when this is over and we will hold our heads high regardless of how this war ends do you hear me Calvin Hobart?"

    He's still crying, but you think you got through to him. Damn though you knew the conversation was going to be rough, but still.
    You surreptitiously wipe your eyes with your sleeve when nobody is looking. You let the rest of the team talk with him for a while and then FINALLY all return to the Outer Heaven.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)12:41 No.13947605
    >>13947576

    Is that Ramirez and Shin(?) in the top right?

    :O
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)12:41 No.13947606
    >>13947576
    Oh god, this is depressing
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)12:43 No.13947629
    >>13947511
    Hey, the namefagging was just because Apologised asked for it.
    Also, I wanted the AB chaff pods because we can't trust the Elmeth to stay undetected forever, or that the Federation won't send a squad of gundams at it.
    Besides, if Nell isn't in combat, then she won't need the manueverability that the chaff pods take away, and if she DOES get into combat, then she can use the chaff and drop the pods to get the extra manueverability back.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)12:44 No.13947639
    >>13947605
    RAMIREZ WHY RAMIREZ

    Now that this is out it's time to prepare the reception for our unwanted guest. If I remember Solomon is in a debris field right? We should mine it.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/18/11(Fri)12:45 No.13947655
    >>13947605

    Can I be honest? I've not actually paid full attention to that image.

    You could have Spanky the Dolphin Airplane pilot from Aerowings (was it?) in there and I wouldn't have noticed.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)12:45 No.13947660
    >>13947629
    You seem to forget that nell can see glimpse of the future and thus get out/change position before they arrive.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)12:50 No.13947701
    >>13947314
    >"Don't use an australian accent. Give the Luna accent a try instead."

    I don't get it. Also, FUCK YEAR, Zeonquest!
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/18/11(Fri)12:50 No.13947706
    >>13947660
    It's more of a Neuromancy thing. Events caused by people she can predict. Completely random events such as weather, asteroid storms, mechanical failures and the like she can't. This is why she couldn't see the Gundam coming, since whilst she could predict that they'd be working on mobile suits, she obviously couldn't predict which prototypes would work and which wouldn't.
    Plus she couldn't predict things like beam rifles and the like because she was under the impression that Minovsky was dead at the time.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)12:53 No.13947728
    >>13947655

    Best guesses I've got:
    Left->Right
    Girhen, Revel, Ramba Ral, Char, Garma, Zol, Jol, Elaine (with creepy eyes), Hovis (god damnit Hovis), Calvin, Unknown (Captcha says he's John Gneseety)
    Center: idk who that could be, guys!
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)12:54 No.13947733
    >>13947706
    Damn oh well still voting for making the OH the best warship of the war for the next century
    >> Zeta Zaku 02/18/11(Fri)12:54 No.13947745
    >>13947728
    It's probably Bernie. You just don't see him with that expression often.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)12:58 No.13947776
    >>13947733
    I'll concede that if possible, having Nell control the bits from the OH is better than having her out where there is no support in the Elmeth.
    But if that's not possible, then I still say that just in case she should have that AB chaff.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)13:00 No.13947801
    >>13947706

    Have we talked to Nell yet? If we haven't, we should. And by Garma's hair we shall not cry no matter what she says.

    And is there ANY chance we can pick up even a single zaku II with a pilot before heading to Solomon?
    Even if we're just letting the pilot catch a ride to Solomon and not taking them for good.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/18/11(Fri)13:01 No.13947820
    You finally return to the docks to see Captain Mauser getting impatient.

    "Christ David, is there any other last minute things you need to do? This is worse than the directors cut of Lord of the Rings."

    You stare at him unrecognizant.

    "...seriously? Jesus. Look, just get the back of the Warship you slags."
    Mauser attempts to manhandle you into the entry umbelical. He wisely decided not to try it with Jolyne however.

    As you board the Outer Heaven, you catch sight of Strauss waving you goodbye from the other end of the umbelical.
    'Good luck' he mouths as the door closes.

    You wave back. Soon your strapped in, and the Outer Heaven can finally depart.

    Your on your way at last.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)13:03 No.13947846
    >>13947745

    I think you've solved the mystery. He looks... older? in the drawing. We must have aged him prematurely D:
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)13:04 No.13947854
    >>13947701
    His bad australian accent, forgetting that Sydney was wiped off the face of australia and that december is summer in australia ruined the mission to capture the ALEx in 0080.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)13:08 No.13947895
    >>13947854

    to be fair, the guard only picked up on the bit about what season it was.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/18/11(Fri)13:09 No.13947907
    >>13947801

    What exactly would you want to say to Nell?
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)13:10 No.13947919
    >>13947820
    While enroute, let's talk a little with Nell.
    Let her know that it's more important to disable the enemy can keep him from fighting, than killing him. Aim for warship engine blocks and hangar bays, stuff like that.

    Also, just to confirm, we have some Lunar Titanium shields for David to use, right? Since these were meant for GM's, the gundanium content is going to be lower and we'll probably need to replace them after each battle.

    Also, what do people think about switching out the beam carbine for the Command Beam Rifle?
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)13:17 No.13948000
    >>13947907

    Did we ever give her that stuffed acguy? (or was it acguy pjs?) Honestly, I can't remember the last time we even saw the child. At the very least, we need to speak with her as her new commanding officer and be sure she is ready for combat.

    Tell her "no heroics"? Does she want anyone specific to be her support element? (I assume Jol via meta) Hell, how has she been? Give her a hug?

    (suddenly, i feel scatterbrained and confused. Hovis T_T)
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)13:20 No.13948023
    >>13948000
    We sent it to her via mail.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/18/11(Fri)13:23 No.13948067
    >
    Also, just to confirm, we have some Lunar Titanium shields for David to use, right? Since these were meant for GM's, the gundanium content is going to be lower and we'll probably need to replace them after each battle.

    Yes you salvaged several after the Battle over Odessa, or The Battle of Orbital 01 as you've heard it referred to a couple of times now.

    >Also, what do people think about switching out the beam carbine for the Command Beam Rifle?

    The Beam Rifle outfitted to GM Command (space types) has 20 shots per cylinder e-clip and it terms of power and range seems to fall slightly below that of the Gundams original model Beam Rifle (and incidentially the Gelgoog Beam Rifles patterned on it), but is still more powerful than the Beam Pistol or Beam Carbine shot for shot.

    It is in effect more of a "Beam Carbine" in the traditional sense than yours.

    Converting the weapon to use your own E-Clip is probably possible, but you haven't asked Ookawara to look at it.

    You talk with Nell about standard combat procedure in the Nactmaren.

    "... we usually go to try and neutralise an opposing warships combat power rather than attempting it's complete destruction: aiming for the engine blocks, hangar bays, bridge and large weapon systems. This is because it's easier and quicker to do if you have the precision, and also because we only NEED to negate a ships combat strength, actually killing everyone onboard for the sake of it isn't how we roll."

    "...you do realise hiting the engines, guns, bridge and hangars will still cause heavy casualties right?"
    Nell points out.

    "..."
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/18/11(Fri)13:26 No.13948093
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    >>13948067
    Forgot my image
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)13:29 No.13948136
    >>13948067
    >"...you do realise hiting the engines, guns, bridge and hangars will still cause heavy casualties right?"
    "Yes, casualties are unavailable. But the point is that neutralizing the combat effectiveness of the enemy than making sure to kill them."
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)13:30 No.13948142
    >>13948136
    *unavoidable
    Gah, I'm more tired than I thought.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)13:43 No.13948283
    >>13948067

    "Nell, a good warrior only kills when they have to- not because they want to, or because it's the simplest way. Killing for the sake of killing isn't war, it's using war as an excuse to do bad things to other people. Not all the people in the Federation are bad ones- but they don't understand that Zeon needs to be free. That's why we have to fight them- but we don't have to kill them, if we can avoid it."
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/18/11(Fri)13:46 No.13948312
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    The journey to Solomon is relatively quiet, the Loyalist forces haven't made a single move since their badly botched Solomon Ghost operation, and the Federation are marshalling their forces at Luna II.

    As a result it makes for a quiet journey. You're always suprised and a little suspicious of quiet journeys. A paranoia you picked up during the the earth campaign your sure.
    Some days it seemed like everywhere you went you'd arrive just in time for a major battle.
    Ah well, best not to get TOO paranoid, thats how you end up jumping at your own shadows.

    You arrive at the Space Fortress Solomon roughly 3 hours later. After passing through the multiple rings of satellite defenses and space mine protection you reach the star shaped fortress, once a resource sattellite, now a defensive base rivalling most colonies in size.

    The scale of the fortress hit's home as it's large hangar bays open up their cavernous mouth to let your ship in to the internal docks. Inside, almost an entire fleet is currently undergoing repairs from the recent battle.
    Whilst some ships repairs are well underway, you can see several Battleships and Heavy Cruisers who will require much more extensive work. Possibly weeks or even months of effort to become spaceworthy again.

    You can only imagine the state of the Grenadan fleet right now, given the horrific mauling it took at Orbital 01 if this is what the traditionally tough Solomon fleet looks like.

    You find a berth to dock your vessel and quickly the umbelical cables connect the ship to the Fortress. As your team exits your ship you are met personally by Shin Matsunaga. He's sporting a medical patch on his forehead, but seems otherwise okay.

    "Welcome to Space Fortress Solomon Commander Lister."

    YOUR ORDERS?
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)13:51 No.13948351
    Greet Shin

    Let's get a tactical appraisal, figure out what Dozle is planning.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)14:03 No.13948473
    >>13948351
    Second. We need to see where we fit into the command hierarchy, and if we can get some people loaned to us to fill in the holes in the unit.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/18/11(Fri)14:05 No.13948506
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    >>13948351
    >Let's get a tactical appraisal, figure out what Dozle is planning.

    You ask about the current Strategic situation and what Admiral Dozle's planning.

    "Both sides effectively retreated to lick their wounds after the Battle of Orbital-01. But at this point, it's a contest to see who can marshal their forces the quickest and mount the counterattack before the other player is finished. To that end, Admiral Dozle has ordered all vessels that can be repaired in a week or less to take priority, whilst vessals that will take longer than 4 weeks to repair have been transferred to the Axis redoubt."

    "Axis?"

    "A resource sat that's been converted into a space fortress it's WAY out there, almost closer to mars than to us. It's intended as a last bolt hole for zeon forces should the unthinkable happen. It's been declared neutral territory regarding the civil war, but who knows for how long THAT will last if we actually have to use it."

    In anycase, the plan now seems to be a rush to get friendly forces up to scratch and mount a strike on Luna II before the enemy has a chance to do the same to us.

    SO, WHAT NOW?
    BRB DINNER
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)14:10 No.13948561
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    >>13948312

    >Shin with medical patch
    >Matsunaga took a hit!?

    -Ask how he got that patch
    -Locate a replacement pilot for Calvin if possible (any will do, even a fresh recruit)
    -meet Dozle?
    -Tactical update
    -???
    -profit

    Apologised, you mentioned last thread the nachtzaku was in need of major repairs/rebuild. Has that been done or are we currently in need of a replacement suit?

    If we need a replacement, lets find or build one.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)14:12 No.13948584
    >>13948506
    See if we can modify the OH with the psycommu, get some rest, prepare an unlimited missle work...
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)14:15 No.13948607
    >>13948584
    I almost forgot, apply beam coat to GM shield
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)14:29 No.13948745
    >>13948506
    We should see if the Elmeth can launch and retrieve its bits from the OH's MA pod, and if an umbilical can give a reacharge feed from the OH's reactor to the Elmeth's bit system.

    We also need to see if we can get two MS pilots attached to our unit, even if temporarily to make up for Calvin and Bernie.

    If any is available, let's get an anti-beam coating on our GM shields.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)14:31 No.13948763
    >>13948584

    We're not stripping the Elmeth of it's primary weapons system. Geez.

    Also, unlimited missile works is really a Macross-y kinda thing. Unguided missile spam is bleah.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)14:32 No.13948773
    Get Shin on our team
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)14:32 No.13948775
    >>13947314
    > Don't use the australian accent

    NO FAGGOT, THAT'S CHEATING.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)14:35 No.13948815
    >>13948506
    In addition to the other suggestions, let's also ask Ookawara if he can modify the GM Command Beam Rifle to take our Beam Carbine e-clips. It has greater range and power than our carbine, and seems to be only slightly bigger.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/18/11(Fri)15:02 No.13949065
    >>13948815

    You ask about converting the Command Rifle to take your Carbines E-Clips, Ookawara says that it probably wont be a problem with a bit of work.

    >>13948773
    Shins is part of Dozles personal honour guard squad, much like you were with Garma back on earth. He's probably one of the few people currently higher on the totem pole command-chain wise than you at the moment.

    >>13948607
    >I almost forgot, apply beam coat to GM shield

    Uh, Beam Coating doesn't exist yet.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)15:03 No.13949078
    Let's go have a drink and bruncheon with Dozle.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)15:06 No.13949109
    >>13949065
    Alright, let's get the work done on the beam rifle, the MA pod so that the Elmeth can launch bits from it and get a power line to the OH's reactor, and get some replacement pilots.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)15:08 No.13949127
    >>13949109
    Shut the fuck up about using bits out of the OH. God damn. Why haven't you realized that NO ONE else supports that idea? Why haven't you realized that NO ONE else has talked about doing that, and that some have actually told you to shut up about it because it's a stupid idea? WHY ARE YOU SO DUMB?
    >> Crix !!nLvSV/0cRma 02/18/11(Fri)15:10 No.13949145
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    >>13949065
    >Uh, Beam Coating doesn't exist yet.

    Don't be silly apologized, I'm sure Zeon has a few aerosol cans of it underneath the "Bigger Zam" plans.


    Oh and if anybody had any desire to watch macross 7, don't, it's awful.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)15:12 No.13949161
    >>13949127
    Because it's only you, fucking retard.
    Having a power umbilical in the MA pod for better recharging of the Elmeth is completely different from attempting to remove the psycommu and bit systems from the Elmeth.
    Why don't you actually read what's posted, fucker.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/18/11(Fri)15:14 No.13949172
    >>13949109
    >Alright, let's get the work done on the beam rifle, the MA pod so that the Elmeth can launch bits from it and get a power line to the OH's reactor, and get some replacement pilots.

    Is that as well as fitting the Anti-Beam Chaff launchers to the Elmeth as well?

    >>13949145
    Well, I suppose you could ask about any sort of beam retardant systems developed here in Solomon...
    >> Zeta Zaku 02/18/11(Fri)15:18 No.13949198
    >>13949161
    What would you be "recharging" exactly? The Elmeth's bits have their own onboard miniature reactors. Plugging a MA into the battleship will only result in drawing power away from the OH's more essential systems.

    There's also the fact that the Outer Heaven will invariably always be closer to the front lines than the Elmeth would be on its lonesome. Tying it to a battleship will only increase the odds of it being damaged in combat.
    >> Ken !TrollKenUE 02/18/11(Fri)15:22 No.13949241
    >>13949172
    Might as well. Only issue I see here is that Nell might make herself a sitting duck, meaning she'll get killed in one beam shot with no warning to fire the chaff.

    If possible, either rig the Elmeth to move around randomly, or train Nell to move the Elmeth around randomly - that way a beam shot may miss her and give her warning to deploy the chaff.

    At the moment, we're down effectively 2 men. Let's see if anyone in Solomon wants to join up with the Nachtmaren.

    [META] Let's also send messages out to the nearby colonies in space, and see if any of them have been evacuated and turned into giant space lasers.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/18/11(Fri)15:25 No.13949281
    >>13949241

    Okay, so I'll make up some available pilot dossiers for you. Give me a minute.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)15:26 No.13949305
    >>13949172

    Just to clarify, what is the status of our suits? Specifically the Nacht-Zaku and Calvin's Gyan?
    >> Crix !!nLvSV/0cRma 02/18/11(Fri)15:29 No.13949331
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    Where's our waifu-to-be, Cima?

    >>13949241
    Beams aren't instant in GENDUMB-verse, and all of the Elmeth's weapons are long range.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/18/11(Fri)15:29 No.13949334
    >>13949305

    They are both essentially repaired.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)15:31 No.13949348
    >>13949198
    I was under the impression that the prototype bits had power issues that required recharging with the Elmeth.
    If this is not the case, then you are right, and I agree, that there is no reason to have the Elmeth tethered to the OH.

    However, I won't budge on the AB chaff issue. If, as other posters have said, the Elmeth shouldn't be detected or targeted because it should be operating from beyond the combat zone, then the reduced manueverability of having the chaff pods won't matter.
    And in the unlikely but possible chance that one of the Federation's Newtypes goes after the Elmeth, the AB chaff might provide a moment of beam diffusion to allow Nell to escape from the combat theatre or regroup with other defenders.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)15:33 No.13949365
    >When pressured she either went flat out non-responsive or starting getting highly agitated, constantly screaming something about how "she can't stop it" or "it's not my fault".

    We might want to ask Nell about this, since this has to be something Gihren is up to. If something going wrong for anyone in this big a way isn't exactly his MO I'll eat a zaku. And even if Nell feels she can't stop "it", we've been known to tie causality into a knot on occasion when it happens to get in our way.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)15:40 No.13949415
    On the subject of modifying the Elmeth, how many MS units can hitch a ride on it? I think we've proved pretty solidly the utility of having a high-speed armor that can be used to shuttle MS teams between hotspots (The Val Valo at the beginning of Orbital-01 and Jol's Dom Dom Bein Nichts back at the beginning of the civil war) and even if the Elmeth doesn't fit this role as well as the Val Valo with its more standoff-attack style, it's not something we should overlook.

    Also, scary skeleton paint job. I think I remember ‘skeleton-shark’ being mentioned in the last thread.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)15:47 No.13949473
    >>13949415
    The problem with that is, we do NOT want the Elmeth getting that close to combat. We want it to hide in a safe distance so Nell doesn't get a beam saber through the face trying to stop a fight between the two men she loves.
    >> Arty 02/18/11(Fri)15:48 No.13949482
    Shit I woke up late, damn night shift.
    >>13949281
    >Okay, so I'll make up some available pilot dossiers for you. Give me a minute.
    If possible lets try and grab people that were part of Garma's chain of command. Was hoping to bring that up before leaving Pezun. Oh well.

    If we've kept Calvin's EWAC Gyan see about getting a railgun reverse engineered from the one we captured at Odessa for it to use. Would allow the pilot to stay at range and ignore any beam chaff that was out.

    Also what ever happened to the Guncannon Mk II that we captured from Jaburo?
    >> Crix !!nLvSV/0cRma 02/18/11(Fri)15:52 No.13949513
    >>13949415
    >On the subject of modifying the Elmeth, how manyl-varo which is almost three times the length MS units can hitch a ride on it?


    I was going to post that the Elmeth is much smaller than the val varo but due to lol-sunrise the elmeth's length is estimated at 85meters while the val varo is only 68

    I think it's a bunch of bullshit as the val varo is almost always depicted as longer and wider
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)15:56 No.13949549
    >>13949365
    My two guesses are Gihren has the Colony Laser online and is going to fire it when the Solomon and Luna II fleets engage each other, or the Federation's Solar Ray is completed and will be used soon.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)16:03 No.13949620
    >>13949549
    if either of those happen I supose we'll get a nuclear bazooka... If we survive that is. Also on the note against my idea on transposingthe Elmeth bits and psycommu on the OH my stance is that we leave the Elmeth as is, I'm offering an alternate solution to installing beam chaff laucher on it, which I'm against for the reason that the Elmeth will never be seen being even farther of the frontline than the OH.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/18/11(Fri)16:05 No.13949627
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    First Dossier

    Name: Irina Quorcrass
    Rank: 2nd class Petty Officer

    Military Record: 22 Combat Missions
    Irina is a dedicated recon specialist. Performing seven military recon missions behind enemy lines unsupported including one mission to Luna II. She was overlooked for the Char team due to concerns over her poor level of combat experience at the time. At the time of the mission she had only undertaken 4 combat missions and was considered unsuitable for the mission.
    Since that time she has taken part in 9 space combat missions, 5 of which were in combat as part of the Luna II blockade garrison and 4 missions against potential federation breakout missions from the Earth surface.
    During this time she operated as part of the perimeter picket, keeping the enemy contained as best able.

    Current MS: Recon Zaku
    Kills: 7
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)16:13 No.13949702
    >>13949620
    My concern is that the psycommu and bit systems on the Elmeth are the Prototype ones, not the actual finished versions, which to me implies that they are tempermental and difficult to work with.
    I would be afraid of moving any of those systems into the OH's power systems.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)16:15 No.13949716
    >>13949702
    The only difference was less bling and armor (not that armor matter with beam weaponry). Or so we were told when we received our new toy.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)16:17 No.13949741
    >>13949549

    Let's not meta the day away, gentlemen and ladies.

    Agreed on seeing if we can pull anyone from Garma's units, if any of them survived that beating at Orbital-1. Those men followed us into space and potentially saved Zeon from short-term disaster, that's the kind of steel we need to be hitting the Federation with. It's where men like Calvin came from, it's where men like Hovis came from, it's what Nachtmaren is.

    Call it old-fashioned, but we began with Garma's men, I'd damn well like to end with them.
    >> Arty 02/18/11(Fri)16:18 No.13949752
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    >>13949482
    Also wondering which of the two railcannons we recovered.

    >uallc solve_not
    ...fuck you captcha

    >>13949627
    Are those MS kills or balls and fighters?
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)16:20 No.13949768
    >>13949627

    Witholding any comment until we have a good look at everyone's dossiers. I'm sure command won't send us any potential lunkers. Remember, we at least need one pilot for Calvin's suit, and potentially a second one.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/18/11(Fri)16:23 No.13949789
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    Second Dossier

    Name: Option Pliades
    Rank: Lieutenant

    Military Record: 17 Combat Missions
    Option was part of the Luna II blockade at it inception and he and his unit survived for almost 11 months until three days ago when in order to cover the retreat of a badly damaged unit his team took near total casualties including the loss of their mothership the Musai cruiser Kestrel.
    He survived only by a timely intervention by the Death Wasp squad. He survived the next hours of the battle by the skin of his teeth before he was cycled back to Solomon.

    Current MS: Rick Dom II
    Kills: 93
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)16:24 No.13949801
    >>13949789
    I like this guy a ton. His name, picture, and kill count look pretty damn awesome. His story's not bad either. I say, unless whoever apologized posts after him are better, we go with him.

    "WE'RE DOING THE OPTION OPTION!"
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)16:25 No.13949807
    >>13949702

    I'm more worried about having something that's sensitive to Newtype feedback being tied directly into the OH's systems.

    Having the OH go batshit because someone with an EXAM system is parked on the deck doesn't strike me as a positive. Giving the Elmeth an option to draw power through the OH reactors via it's MA pod when not in self-powered flight on the other hand sounds good. That should allow it a quicker bit recharge rate when it's got multiple empties socketed.
    >> Crix !!nLvSV/0cRma 02/18/11(Fri)16:25 No.13949810
    >>13949789
    >Kouji's gundam counterpart

    hahah yes

    >Rick Dom II

    BREASTO-BLIND
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)16:27 No.13949825
    >>13949810
    I don't understand your reference.
    >> Crix !!nLvSV/0cRma 02/18/11(Fri)16:27 No.13949828
    >>13949807
    >hat should allow it a quicker bit recharge rate

    What? Unless the Prototype Elmeth is not using bits (which are by definition self-contained funnels) then I don't understand your logic.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)16:27 No.13949829
    >>13949801
    Well he can fill in for Bernie until he makes it back.
    We do need someone in the recon role in the Recon Gyan, and Irina is looking like a good fit for that, unless another good recon candidate shows up.
    >> Crix !!nLvSV/0cRma 02/18/11(Fri)16:28 No.13949850
    >>13949825
    You're right now that I think about it, it's not Koji's hair at all, it's someone from getter I think
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)16:30 No.13949865
    >>13949789
    We must have Ryouma on our team.

    this is non-negotiable.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)16:31 No.13949885
    >>13949807
    We could always run it in close circuit. The psycommu only need energy to work after all. I'm not saying to integrate it, just not sortie it since some people are "Oh everyone's going to run after the MA we don't even know the existance of.". There's a reason why Lalah was named the ghost of solomon.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)16:32 No.13949900
    >>13949828
    The difference between funnels and bits, and which one the Elmeth uses, seems to be a source of confusion.
    I know I misread the original writeup on the Prototype Elmeth, and thought that there was a power issue on the prototype bits.

    Bits = self-contained beam guns with their own reactors, need no charging.
    Funnels = require charging.

    Elmeth uses bits.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)16:33 No.13949917
    >>13949810
    That's Ryouma Nagare, from Getter Robo.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/18/11(Fri)16:35 No.13949943
    Third Dossier

    Name: Rance Eiper
    Rank: Corporal

    Combat Record: 9 Combat Missions
    Only finished combat training three months ago, was stationed as part of the Solomon garrison "south" in what was supposed to be a safe posting.
    Then SOMEBODY WHO WILL REMAIN NAMELESS started a civil war.
    Almost all of his actions aside from the recent Battle of Orbital 01 were against Loyalist Zeon. These were all small scale skirmishes with the Loyalist side being forced into retreat before they took overly heavy casualties. Although he lacks proper experience in full battlefield conditions (his first full scale battle was only three days ago, as part of the Solomon Reinforcements) in the battles thus far, he has acquitted himself well. He has high marks for reactions, adaptation, awareness and agression.
    A rookie with a lot of potential. But still just a rookie.

    Current Mobile Suit: Zaku IIF2
    Kills: 12 (Including 1 MS-14A Gelgoog)
    >> Crix !!nLvSV/0cRma 02/18/11(Fri)16:36 No.13949951
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    >>13949917
    I always get the hairstyles confused since in SRW@g they always have helmets on in battle.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/18/11(Fri)16:36 No.13949952
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    >>13949943
    FORGOT MY MOTHERFUCKING PIC

    do you need any more dossiers?
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)16:36 No.13949955
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    First Impressions:

    >>13949627
    >Reminds me of Astray girls for some reason
    >Remember /m/ thread from last night
    >oh god she'll die in a sea of mooks


    >>13949789
    >Awesome!
    >Kestrel
    >HRIMFAXI LAUNCHING BURST MISSILE!
    >mfw
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)16:36 No.13949960
    >>13949885
    I'm the guy pushing for the AB chaff on the Elmeth.
    I want it there because we can't be sure that the Federation Newtypes won't pull something crazy or extremely improbable to find Nell and target her.
    Yeah, Lalah was the "Ghost of Solomon", and we all know how well that turned out for her.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)16:38 No.13949974
    Can we pick two? If so, I'd like Option and Rance. Or just Option is just one.
    >> Zeta Zaku 02/18/11(Fri)16:38 No.13949975
    Hm. Rance seems to have the most raw talent, and we can easily nurture that like we did with Bernie.

    But, we do need someone to cover for Calvin, and I would hate myself if I voted against Ryouma. Decisions.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)16:39 No.13949996
    >>13949952
    Can we take all three?

    >>13949960
    To be fair, it was Lalah's own damn fault for blocking that beam saber with her face.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)16:40 No.13950009
    >>13949960
    Wait what? Lalah actually took a beam saber hit that would have killed Char... It's not like beam chaff yould have saved her.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)16:40 No.13950012
    >>13949900

    In that case, there's no need to boost the Elmeth with the OH's power systems. Keep it as it is, we shouldn't be messing with an entirely new guidance system by doing stuff like trying to remount it into a battleship.

    Although if Nell -wants- to have a way to slave some of the OH's weaponry into her guidance systems, I have no problem with that. Being able to precision guide a broadside from the ship's guns into mobility-killing vs. outright massacring an enemy is A-OK by me, and she's got the only targeting system that won't be queered by Minovsky's little helpers along the way.

    (Bonus: It'll mean detecting the Elmeth is even less likely.)
    >> Arty 02/18/11(Fri)16:40 No.13950013
    >>13949885
    >>13949900
    Regardless of what particular name the Elmeth's weapons use they have to dock to be recharged after 1 or 2 shots. This is what apologised has said so that's how they're going to work. If the Elmeth is inside the OH's MA bay when the bits/funnels are launched they'll have to be manuvered out through the doors which is slightly impractical.
    Hooking the Elmeth up to the OH's reactors would not provide any benefit as they still have to dock with the MA's custom built recharging systems. If they bits are flying +100 km away to attack something they'd still have to fly back and dock to recharge anyways which is the whole advantage of the system: attacking from beyond the range of the enemy so the control ship cant be hit or found.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)16:41 No.13950016
    rolled 1 = 1

    I want Irina because of her recon experience, and that we'll be putting her in the Recon Gyan, to make up for Calvin.

    I'm torn between Rance and Option, though. Option has proven experience, but Rance seems to have more raw talent.

    Rolling die to choose:
    Evens: Rance
    Odds: Option
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)16:41 No.13950024
    >>13949975
    I'll make it easy then.

    If we get Ryouma, he might get a combination heat Hawk toss attack with Zolomon.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)16:42 No.13950034
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    >>13949789
    >loss of their mothership the Musai cruiser Kestrel

    I see what you did there.
    >> Silly Ginger 02/18/11(Fri)16:42 No.13950036
    Rance has combat tendencies that make him a goddamn liability. Option is more dependable.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)16:43 No.13950044
    >>13950024
    SPINNING DRILL AXE ATTACK

    They grab hands, each holding a heat hawk in their other hand.

    They rocket off towards the enemy, with their thrusters tilted so that they spin like a football.

    They make a high speed pass through enemy forces, DRILLING THROUGH THEM WITH HOT AXES AND SHIT.
    >> Crix !!nLvSV/0cRma 02/18/11(Fri)16:44 No.13950053
    >>13950013
    >Elmeth's weapons use they have to dock to be recharged after 1 or 2 shots

    Then they're not bits, and should not be referred to as them.

    Also Rance used an F2 to take out a gelgoog.
    That's pretty baller. His hyper weapon must be massive.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)16:48 No.13950097
    Well here are my thoughts on the 3 candidates:

    Irina: Kind of edging towards her. With Calvin out of action for the foreseeable future, we really need a recon element to replace him.

    Option: Seems like a solid combat pilot, but we have plenty of those already. What we need are specialists.

    Rance: Eehh, he has zero experience fighting Federation units, which is where most of our fighting is likely to be focused on. He's the least likely to take right now.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)16:49 No.13950109
    Let's wait and see if there's a 4th option.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)16:51 No.13950118
    >>13950044
    and now we need to devise the FINAL DYNAMIC SPECIAL... sadly none of us has rocket punch.... maybe if we install beam lances on the Elmeth Bit...
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)16:51 No.13950123
    >>13950013
    >they have to dock to be recharged after 1 or 2 shots
    See, that's what I thought, but I started doubting myself and thought I was wrong.

    You have a point about the bits/funnels going in and out of the MA pod being somewhat difficult, but I thought that having the Elmeth getting an extra power feed would allow it to recharge faster. If this it can't then the entire exercise is a moot point.

    Also, I concede the point about the OH being required on the front line of this battle. Perhaps in another battle the OH could stay with the Elmeth beyond enemy detection range, but we need all ships that can fight to be on the line.
    Given that, the Elmeth would be safer on its own, especially if being tethered to the OH won't provide any increase in bit/funnel charging time.

    Would having the Elmeth feed targeting data collected by its bits/funnels to the OH be feasible or advantageous?
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)16:54 No.13950147
    >>13950118
    Give Zolomon some rocket propelled beam lances
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)16:54 No.13950153
    >>13950036
    What combat tendencies? I don't see anything like that listed in his dossier.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)16:54 No.13950156
    We need at least three to get back to full strength.

    One for Hovis. One for Calvin. And one for Bernie, at least while he's out.

    If we had to go with just these three, I'd be putting Irina in Calvin's Gyan EW variant, Option in his Rick Dom 2 (but have Ookawara look at it and get an earful on the RD2's performance from our new pilot while we're at it- these things aren't common!), and Rance in either current ride or whatever we can pull for him/upgrade. After all, we've managed to take a Zaku a long, long way.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)16:55 No.13950158
    >>13950156
    We have Nell filling in for Hovis
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)16:55 No.13950160
    Irina. We already kill goddamn everything we fight, Ew don't have time left in this war to nurture raw talent and we need reconcile rather badly.
    >> Crix !!nLvSV/0cRma 02/18/11(Fri)16:57 No.13950177
    What happened to the val-varo anyway, I don't remember it exploding, so was it abandoned or is it in for a re-fit?
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)16:59 No.13950196
    >>13950160

    Recon*

    In other news I fucking hate typing with my phone
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)16:59 No.13950197
    >>13950160
    I'm also voting for Irina, we need a recon specialist and at least Bernie will come back soon with a GUNDAM for us.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)17:00 No.13950201
    >>13950177
    Wasn't Hovis piloting the Val Varo when he was killed?
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)17:01 No.13950209
    >>13950177
    From the sounds of it, I think it pretty much got totalled by the Pixy, and it was already pretty trashed at that point. Even if it was salvagable, we probably wouldn't be getting it back any time soon.
    >> Crix !!nLvSV/0cRma 02/18/11(Fri)17:01 No.13950214
    >>13950201
    Well yes, but killing the pilot and destroying a mobile armor are two different things.
    >> Arty 02/18/11(Fri)17:02 No.13950227
    >>13950177
    The explosion was visible from Dozle's command ship so yeah it exploded.

    >>13950053
    >Then they're not bits, and should not be referred to as them.
    Tell that to apologised.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)17:03 No.13950234
    >>13950214
    >When the blast fades, there's nothing left.
    The Val Varo was vaporized.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)17:03 No.13950236
    >>13950214
    We don't have the place for it on the OH anymore even if it was salvageable. Not to mention we don't have a pilot for it anymore.
    >> Crix !!nLvSV/0cRma 02/18/11(Fri)17:04 No.13950243
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    >>13950234
    >>13950227
    Oh well~
    >> Darkstar !!qNC62NaRJ6C 02/18/11(Fri)17:04 No.13950245
    >>13949943
    Newtype
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)17:07 No.13950276
    >>13950156

    Now mind you, I know we have Nell now.

    I'm more than a little worried about the long-term potential of a grade-schooler for a MA pilot. No offense, she's a CHILD. The psychological damage this has to be building up must be horrid, and I'm seriously worried that she's going to have a breakdown. While piloting a top-of-the-line MA.

    But for now, I'd go with the first two for Calvin and Bernie's replacements.
    >> Crix !!nLvSV/0cRma 02/18/11(Fri)17:09 No.13950291
    >>13950276
    >While piloting a top-of-the-line MA

    Not really, this prototype elmeth seems to just be a testbed for the psycommu system, now the val varo, that was a top-of-the-line now.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)17:09 No.13950295
    >>13950276
    She's the one that want to fight are you going to deny her conviction?
    >> Darkstar !!qNC62NaRJ6C 02/18/11(Fri)17:11 No.13950311
    If one only take two I vote Rance as a pick. Rance + Alex.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)17:11 No.13950314
    >>13950291
    >psycommu
    >not top-of-the-line

    I'd sell the natch-zaku for a MS with a working psycommu system anydays.
    >> Zeta Zaku 02/18/11(Fri)17:26 No.13950436
    >>13950314
    Better be prepared to wait nearly a decade then.

    Anyway, I'm going to suggest either Rance or Irinia. Option seems good, but ultimately doesn't really seem to stand out that much.
    >> since somebody asked for a fourth dossier I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/18/11(Fri)17:27 No.13950446
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    Fourth Dossier

    Name: Reinhardt Deimad
    Rank: Lt. Commander

    Combat History: 22 Missions

    Son of Randolf Deimad one half of the founders of Zimmad, Reinhardt often has to push for frontline missions on his own initiative in spite of pressure from from his father on the military to keep him out of harms way.
    This has led to a string of verbal arguments between the two. Despite this Reinhardt is still listed as a fully rated test pilot for Zimmad, and it was his redesign of the Zudah, utilising booster technology pioneered for the Dom and Rick-Dom that enabled what was previously considered a "ghost fighter" to be mass produced.
    He is an excellent pilot with suspected newtype capacity with no major weaknesses apart from his over-eagerness. Several occaisions he has pushed forwards when he should have pulled back and taken stock. He also seems to naturally try to take the commanding role in any team he is placed on. Because of these traits and the aforementioned politcal pressure, Reinhardt has bounced from unit to unit without much success of finding a stable home.
    Despite this, his combat record largely speaks for itself, and he has faced highly dangerous battles and come out alive at the end, having fought at Loum, the Luna II Garisson, the Orbital Zone Garisson, he also aided friendly forces defend the Rio-Grande line for a month during the second Jaburo assault and fought against Loyalist Zeon forces around Texas colony.
    Despite this, he continues to get marked negatively for his poor ability to work as part of a team.

    Current MS: Zudah (Command)
    Kills: 115
    NOTE: According to the numbers, only Char has a worse wingman survival rate. Even then only just.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)17:27 No.13950448
    >>13950436
    Or less if we can keep Grenada and the flanagan institute after the war...
    >> Arty 02/18/11(Fri)17:29 No.13950459
    >>13950436
    Unless there's someone with sniper skills that we could cross train as recon I'm going to have to agree with taking Irinia. Havent decided on the other two yet, maybe we'll still get more pilots ot look at.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)17:30 No.13950466
    >>13950446
    We could take him and give him a David Slap to sort him out.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)17:30 No.13950471
    >>13950446
    I can't stop laughting... damn you apologized. Also I'm still voting for Irina
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)17:32 No.13950487
    >>13950446
    Yeah, I don't think he'd get far with us. The Nachtmaren have only survived this long BECAUSE we've been acting like a team. He has a very high chance of getting himself (and maybe all of us) killed while he shoots off to engage a Gundam 1v1.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)17:32 No.13950490
    >>13950446

    MOTHERFUCKING NACHT ZUDAH HOW DOES IT WORK

    My votes for this guy and Alex
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)17:34 No.13950502
    APOLOGIZED, HOW MANY ARE WE ADDING?
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)17:36 No.13950514
    5 hours and practically nothing done
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/18/11(Fri)17:38 No.13950525
    >>13950471
    ...what? Why?
    >> Crix !!nLvSV/0cRma 02/18/11(Fri)17:38 No.13950527
    >>13950514
    Isn't that on-par for zeonquest?
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)17:40 No.13950546
    >>13950525
    >NOTE: According to the numbers, only Char has a worse wingman survival rate. Even then only just.
    >> Arty 02/18/11(Fri)17:40 No.13950548
    >>13950446
    Make a note to command or perhaps to Kycilia Zabi that this guy might make a great one man wrecking crew for special operations.
    I'm against taking him since he's not a team player.

    My votes are for Irina Quorcrass and Option Pliades.

    If we'd had to choose a month ago in-game I would have taken Rance because we would have had time enough to run him through his paces. We dont have time though, we need good pilots.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)17:41 No.13950552
    >The Nachtmaren have only survived this long BECAUSE we've been acting like a team. He has a very high chance of getting himself (and maybe all of us) killed while he shoots off to engage a Gundam 1v1.

    This. Very much this. Get the Girl. She seems to be the most useful of the lot.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)17:41 No.13950554
    >>13950548
    Agreed
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/18/11(Fri)17:46 No.13950584
    >>13950502

    You have two open slots for pilots. One to replace Bernie, the other to replace Calvin.

    However, I would point out that since our MA slot can basically do her on recon work via VAGUELY DEFINED NEWTYPE POWERS the need for a dedicated spotter for the MA slot is reduced.
    HOWEVER the Val Velo didn't really need one either, so, your call.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)17:46 No.13950600
    Wow. I just rushed through the archives for the past two weeks to understandings.

    But I've been lurking all the while.

    In any case, Can we ask about that railgun and see if we can bolt it either to the Elmeth or to the Recon Gyan.

    It CAN be used for very long ranges, right?

    Also, I disagree on the whole Elmeth-with-beam-chaffe thing.

    1)If it needs to fight up close, then it's already lost the fight. It's a big honking MS. It'll be a David vs. Goliath thing.

    2)It is mostly bristling with beam weapons. Do you wanna hamper that one advantage?

    3)Just how fast is it? Can it run away?

    And as for replacement pilots:

    Irinia and Option.

    If we can, we should train her with the Railgun(if we can bolt it there) or Command Beam Rifle.

    Option's gonna have to stick with Zol...see if there's any magic that'll happen...
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)17:48 No.13950611
    Get the Irina and Option.
    They should work pretty well as temporary stand ins for Calvin and Bernie.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)17:49 No.13950616
    >>13950446
    I want to vote for this guy. Sure he has teamwork problems, but damn 115 Kills in a ZUDAH is impressive. Especially since the Zudah is known for randomly fucking exploding like a Leo faced with a toothpick.
    >> Zeta Zaku 02/18/11(Fri)17:49 No.13950619
    >>13950584
    In that case, I say Rance and Option over Irinia. Calvin was useful in directing support fire when the Rhinoceros was still usable, but in space that's not really relevant anymore. And since Nell can spot for herself through the bits, then we may not even need a support network for her, aside from a token guard MS.

    Rance seems like he'll go far, if we can pair him with an experienced wingman. Option is excellent for this job, since he's got so much raw firsthand knowledge.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)17:50 No.13950627
    Rance And OPTION!
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)17:54 No.13950657
    >>13950584
    I don't know, I'd still feel more comfortable having a "boots on the ground" style of recon over the vagueness and unreliablity of Newtype powers. It could serve as a good backup in case something starts fucking around with Nell's psyche.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/18/11(Fri)17:54 No.13950659
    >>13950616

    He didn't ALWAYS have the Zudah. He had the Dom/Rick-Dom for a lot of it.
    Plus the new Zudah's don't explode when they overheat anymore.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/18/11(Fri)17:59 No.13950697
    So, before we get to 11 here in england I'm going to have to force a decision.

    Just about everyone seems to want Option, so choose one more pilot from Irina, Rance or Reinhardt.
    >> Arty 02/18/11(Fri)18:01 No.13950716
    >>13950697
    Irina
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)18:02 No.13950721
    >>13950657
    >When the blast fades, there's nothing left
    I agree.
    We took out 4 of the Federation's EXAM suits, but with their enhanced industrial/technological capacity in this timeline, I wouldn't rule out them having a few more waiting to fuck up any Zeon Newtypes.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)18:02 No.13950731
    >>13950697
    Irina.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)18:02 No.13950735
    >>13950697

    Rance. And suggesting Reinhardt to the nearest test pilot program. Anyone who can mother a Zudah along to that performance is a maverick, but damn useful doing it.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/18/11(Fri)18:06 No.13950770
    >>13950716
    >>13950731
    >>13950735

    Two votes for Irina, one for Rance. Looks like Irina it is then.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)18:07 No.13950780
    >Pair up Rance and Reinhardt
    >What could possibly go wrong?

    Rance and Option could make a decent team. Rance has talent and Option could teach him how to be very very lucky.

    Although honestly I think Irina is the luckiest of the lot, since she narrowly dodged being one of Char's close personal friends.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)18:08 No.13950791
    OPTION AND RANCE.
    >> Darkstar !!qNC62NaRJ6C 02/18/11(Fri)18:10 No.13950814
    Rance
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)18:12 No.13950827
    I say Irina. We already have a team full of combat monsters. It'd be nice change of pace to have at least one member who actually gives a thought about subltey.
    >> Arty 02/18/11(Fri)18:12 No.13950831
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    >>13950780
    >>13950791
    >>13950770
    Think you jumped the gun apologised.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)18:13 No.13950840
    >>13950770
    Now that it's settled, do we have that Federation railgun with us, or did we leave it at Pezun for analysis?
    If we have it, I think it should go to Irina and the Recon Gyan.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)18:13 No.13950842
    Nachtmaren has to have the highest kill count in the entire war. Both sides.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/18/11(Fri)18:15 No.13950859
    >>13950831
    Fine, I'll count the votes at half past then.

    >>13950840
    >Now that it's settled, do we have that Federation railgun with us, or did we leave it at Pezun for analysis?

    I do believe in all of the excitement you forgot to offload it and kept it with the rest of your battlefield scavengings. Since it's powersupply is largely self contained, most UMP built mobile suits and similar should be able to use it with no problem.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)18:17 No.13950873
    >>13950859
    I think everyone who wants to vote already has.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)18:19 No.13950887
    I'll vote Irina
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/18/11(Fri)18:20 No.13950892
    >>13950842
    >both sides combined you mean

    To be fair, a LOT of those were mexican tanks. Those were hardly tactical geniuses.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)18:21 No.13950905
    Option and Rance together. Option has skills to pay the bills, and Rance, with experience and wisdom from the rest of our team, can become someone great.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)18:26 No.13950954
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    >>13950892

    Nor were they led by this lucky devil, so no. Not exactly all that beefy. Then again, look at Zeonic kill counting in general. Needed work.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)18:29 No.13950981
    >>13950892
    I think this is the secret to success in Mobile Suit Gundam; spend the first month or so of the war grinding on Mexican armored cavalry. You odds of dying are low and you can get in a lot of easy gunnery practice.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/18/11(Fri)18:29 No.13950996
    >>13950954

    Come to think of it, you did basically fuck over the entire mexican military over the course of Operation Elephant. I think the point where they discovered Minovsky particles bugger up unsheilded electronics and you took out their GIANT LAND BATTLESHIP was the point the Mexicans became the Mexicantbeassedwiththisbullshit.
    >> Arty 02/18/11(Fri)18:36 No.13951051
    >>13950996
    Not to mention the mexican airforce. Thought for sure they were droping chemical weapons when they opened their bombbays and started crashing like that.
    >> Zeta Zaku 02/18/11(Fri)18:39 No.13951074
    >>13950981
    >>13950996
    >>13951051
    MS de IGLOO: El delantero mexicano Perder
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)18:39 No.13951079
    Ryou-Option and Irina.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)18:44 No.13951127
    Alright, now that it's half-past, let's get these votes tallied.
    I think Irina still wins if I'm counting right.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)18:45 No.13951135
    >>13951127
    Wrong, it's option and rance
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)18:46 No.13951149
    >>13951135
    Nope, Irina edges out by one vote yet again.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)18:49 No.13951180
    >>13951149
    Going all the way back, Rance is way ahead.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/18/11(Fri)18:50 No.13951184
    >>13950981
    Certainly it was an easier front that Canada proved to be.

    >>13950905
    >>13950887
    >>13950827
    >>13950814
    >>13950791
    >>13950780
    >>13950735
    >>13950731
    >>13950716

    Okay, I count 4 for Irina and 5 for Rance. So in the end were going with Option and Rance.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/18/11(Fri)18:51 No.13951195
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    After spending several hours going through various dossiers you eventually decide on the two pilots you want in the team. You summon them both up to the office you've managed to snag inside the base interior, near to where the Outer Heaven is stationed.

    Both arrive at roughly the same time, odds are they must have been billeted somewhere close to each other.

    "Gentlemen, I am Commander David Lister of the Independant Corps: The Nachtmaren Unit. Recent losses after the battles three days ago mean that we have to replenish our numbers back to full capacity. After going through various dossiers I've opted to take both of you on. Now, were a tightly knit team here, we look out for each other, so I don't want to see any showboating or needless risk-taking. Similarily if you have a problem, you find yourself out of your depth or you get mildly injured over the course of combat, don't keep it to yourself. If you do that, more than anything else, you'll survive in the unit. Although skill does help as well, skill can be taught, as long as you're willing to learn. Now, any questions?"

    "How quickly will we be needed to transfer our personal effects from where were currently billeted?" Option asks.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/18/11(Fri)18:53 No.13951211
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    >>13951195

    "ASAP, as whilst we don't have any combat missions scheduled we are techincally ALWAYS on call. We don't rotate out of combat duty like other combat units. We've had extended combat operations lasting well over three to four days without downtime, so I hope you've learnt how to sleep in your mobile suits whilst in transit, as you won't be able to survive otherwise."

    "Sir? Will we be keeping our Mobile Suits or will we be given replacement suits?" Rance asks.

    "We'll most likely dragoon your Mobile Suits into the unit, but whether or not you will be using them in combat will depend on the parameters of whatever our next mission happens to be. In the mean time, we'll be trialling you out with the mobile suits we currently have available and measure your performances."

    There are no other questions, and you dismiss them to get their affects.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)18:57 No.13951247
    >>13951211
    Now let's go see Dozle for a drink and to see what's up.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/18/11(Fri)18:57 No.13951256
    Okay quick question. Is there ANYTHING any of you want to get done here in Solomon?
    Obviously we will be doing training exercises with the rookies to bring them up to speed, but is there anything else you want to do?
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)18:58 No.13951266
    >>13951256
    Maybe another little date with Jolyne.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)19:01 No.13951292
    >>13951256
    As part of the exercises, see if either Option or Rance are any good with a shield.

    Other than that, I think we're ready to see if it'll be the Federation or Zeon who will be ready first.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)19:01 No.13951293
    >>13951256
    Take a couple extra cases of grenades.
    >> Arty 02/18/11(Fri)19:02 No.13951298
    >>13951256
    Check out the defenses surrounding the Fortress. The feds have already made clear they'd like to take a crack at this place, they just dont want to do it with so much of the fleet here.
    Also look up what happened to that Carrier we captured. That was a huge pile of Luna titanium, they had to have done something with it. Thin luna titanium chest plates for the local MS to help protect the cockpits would keep a hell of a lot of pilots alive.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)19:02 No.13951301
    Ask around, see if there's any information on what Gihren is up to.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)19:03 No.13951307
    >>13951298
    That's definitely something we should find out about. Capturing that was a shining moment in Nachtmaren history.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)19:05 No.13951323
    >>13951256
    Get a more in depth read of where the Federation forces are. I know the majority of them have consolidated at Luna II, but are they totally clamping down or are they sending out probing operations against us?
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)19:08 No.13951355
    >>13951256
    show ookawara the local facilities. Offload that railgun and find something to do with it, bolt it onto something dead killy.

    I mean, that thing isn't doing anyone any good sitting in a hold somewhere.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)19:09 No.13951364
    >>13951256

    Get both the new pilots some time with the tech crew. Ookawara needs to meet their suits as much as we need to meet their pilots, including seeing if there's any souping up we can give them. Including testing them out on the Gyan, and if we need to reconfigure it off it's recon mode into something with more ranged firepower. Not that I'm sure we can do much more with that Rick Dom II, but we DO have a miracle worker for a tech. Surprises may happen.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/18/11(Fri)19:11 No.13951378
    >>13951298
    >>13951307

    You ask about the captured Trojan Horse.

    According to intel about 60% of it was stripped for reverse engineering purposes. A lot of the advances in Beam Weaponry technology came from observing parts from the warship. Plus the power reactor and distribution systems helped develop several key components of the United Maintanence Plan.

    As for the Gundamnium Alloy aboard, much of it had been removed to try and replicate the alloying process of Titanium and Lunarium, with apparently little success. Despite this several pieces have been fashioned into simple shields, however the material doesn't bend in any real fashion, and whilst the use of beam weaponry can cut it into shapes - evidently theability to forge the metal in various shapes is something that has to happen under select conditions probably similar to how it's alloyed.
    You hear scuttlebutt that Dozle's custom Galbady has certain parts reinforced by strips of Lunar-Titanium and the shields of his honour guard are the same.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)19:17 No.13951418
    >>13951378
    During the exercises, can we see how well Nell and the Elmeth can function as a recon asset? Before we remove the recon package from the Gyan, I'd like to know if we're still going to need it or not.
    >> Zeta Zaku 02/18/11(Fri)19:22 No.13951449
    >>13951378
    What about the Solomon defense grid? How far out does our sensor network extend, and can we coordinate defensive operations with Pezun and Granada from here?
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)19:23 No.13951456
    Reminds me... can we retrofit a few bits into remote cams with lascoms? Lasers can not communicate very far within minovsky-dense areas, but if she forms a sort of picket line, I would guess that we can probably still get a relieabel data stream.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)19:27 No.13951491
    >>13951211
    Let's throw the newbies into the Nacht-Zaku and the Gyan Skullfucker and tell them to fight each other. Should be good for a laugh.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)19:29 No.13951500
    Would it be worth our time to spread around some of the little grenade tricks that David and Bernie have come up with?
    Things like the combination Flash/Cracker grenades, stuff like that.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)19:30 No.13951517
    >>13951500

    Yeah, I second this. If we can combine testing our new guys with a training session with some of the local people, all for the better.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/18/11(Fri)19:32 No.13951529
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    >>13951418
    As well as the two new pilots you also have Nell as an untried entity within your squad to practice with.

    You quickly discover between training exercises with other MS teams station on Solomon that she is able to slot in well as a long range fire support asset. Often being able to work in tandem with friendly forces, backing them up with her own formidable stand-off firepower.

    That said, her ability to provide long range recon is much more vague than Calvin's was, replacing the hard data of long range camera's and viewfinders with poorly understood superhuman senses.
    She is however still able to accurately sense and relay the locations of enemies and their combat strength, even though she is often not able to accurately relay the exact disposition of the enemy present.
    On the other hand, she is able to make insightful evaluations of those opponents based on that data so as a recon tool she has both pros and cons.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/18/11(Fri)19:32 No.13951532
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    >>13951529
    Option and Rance seem to mesh into the squads reasonably well. Option seems somewhat hesitant in his action. You suspect he may be second-guessing himself after losing his unit. You hope he pulls himself out of funk on his own, as you don't really know him too well at this point, and trying to force the issue might make it worse. Despite this, his experience in space combat shines through, and his learned skill in this will certainly be an asset to the team once he get's his shit together.
    Rance on the other hand picks things up with the speed and eagerness of most rookies you've had to work with. He reminds you of how Bernie was when he first arrived. You have no problems with him, apart from the usual rookie problems of him still being rough round the edges.

    In anycase the exercises go well. If Dozle's gamble pays off then your unit should be in prime condition.

    It doesn't.

    Three days later Solomon goes onto red alert and all combat worthy vessels are ordered to begin making ready to depart.

    The Federation have made their move: On the Side 4 colonies that lie between Solomon and Luna II. The Federation went first.

    TO BE CONTINUED
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)19:35 No.13951555
    >Gyan Skullfucker
    Can we get some specific on what kind of a monster Zol has goaded Ookawara into creating? Knowing just how much of minimum safe distance we need to give Zolomon now would be helpful.

    We should see what they can do in the suits they've got. Maybe we could throw them at Jol or Elaine? After that we can pick someone to train them up some more. ...Or we could have them take on Zol with a fake gundam V spot welded to his new monster.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)19:37 No.13951570
    >>13951532
    >Siege of Side 4
    Fuck! Hopefully, Revil banked on the Feds having more ships and GM's repaired than Zeon and decided to force our hand, rather than they actually finished all of their repairs first.
    >> Arty 02/18/11(Fri)19:37 No.13951575
    >>13951532
    >>13951555
    So does Zol's Gyan actually use beam lances or are they beam sabers like 'The O' has?
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)19:38 No.13951581
    >>13951529
    I still think we should have taken Irina, since in terms of recon, she would have worked well in tandem with Nell. Irina could have easily covered Nell's weaknesses by responding to Nell's predictions and then beaming back hard data for us.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)19:45 No.13951637
    >>13951581

    Yeah, well I suppose we will have to pick her up too. If she will survive this mess, that is. Better recon can keep us - and plenty of others - alive.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)19:53 No.13951693
    I think we're going to be called on again to kill a whole mess of pegasus carriers. If seems that whenever the feds mount a big offensive we have to break it by breaking a lot of their expensive ships. They've lost 10 ships since they attacked Odessa. Let's see if we can improve on that a bit.

    We're going to need to give the new guys a crash course in ship-busting. Then again, we really have no metric for how lethal Nell is as a ship killer.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)19:55 No.13951713
    >>13951693
    Then again, you'd think by now that Revil's caught on to our strategy. I think that he might start spreading the carriers out, rather than keep them bunched up in one convenient package for us.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)19:56 No.13951729
    >>13951713
    Also, I'm wonder if we might expect even more carrier spam in the future, what with the main Federation forces linking up with Luna II meaning that now Luna II's shipyards have the means of cranking out Pegasi.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)19:58 No.13951742
    >>13951713

    I would guess that spreading them out robs 'em of support though. What's he going to do? Group them with battleships rather than trying to make them cover each other?
    Well yeah, I suppose that's what's going to happen.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/18/11(Fri)20:00 No.13951763
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    >>13951555
    --OMAKE--

    First Sortie performance report on the Gyan Eisvogel (No Zol, I refuse to call it... THAT)
    by Head Engineer Ookawara

    Overview: The Beam Lance rack has had a negative effect on the mass distribution of the suit.I can compensate for this with vernier controls in space, but I have concerns about it's performance in gravity. Zol's ability to throw weapons with lethal abandon is as ridiculous as ever, and he's learnt how to make use of the salvaged Gundam Hammer in a matter of days. The new shield design has given us several minor niggles and two power coupling faults.
    The extra weight has effected even the Krieger frames amazing performance, however, boosting the output of the reactor is almost impossible with current technology at the moment. So even a brute force application of bigger thrusters is unsuitable. However it appears that the unsymetrical weight has given the Eisvogel an unusual center of gravity which makes it highly difficult to predict.
    More testing is required for certain.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/18/11(Fri)20:01 No.13951770
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    >>13951763
    NIGGLE: Uneven mass distribution causing handling issues.
    PROPOSAL: Use the verniers to counterbalance the uneven weight for space combat.
    PROPOSAL: Swap over the Gundam hammer and the shield. The Hammer, if not heavier, generates more pull due to it's nature, this could counterbalance the weight issue.

    NIGGLE: Power feed to all three beam barrels of the shield can sync up causing none of the barrels to fire as they lack enough power.
    PROPOSAL: Tighter program controls to ensure that only one barrel can call for power at any one time.
    PROPOSAL: Replace complicated triple barrelled array for a single beam rifle weapon based around the Gelgoog pattern.

    NIGGLE: Reduced speed due to extra weight
    PROPOSAL: Decrease armour thickness, look into anti-beam materials being developed here in Solomon.
    PROPOSAL: Solid Fuel booster pods
    PROPOSAL: Add additional Microfusion Reactors to the suit to power bigger thrusters.
    PROPOSAL: Convince Zolomon to stop making all of these crazy proposals DENIED (leave asking for the impossible to the MS pilots please.)
    >> Arty 02/18/11(Fri)20:13 No.13951888
    >>13951693
    >Then again, we really have no metric for how lethal Nell is as a ship killer.
    Then it's time to test that. Instead of charging headlong into the center of the Fed formation let's stay at the edges and fight GM's with the rest of our forces. Meanwhile Nell starts disabling cruisers and/or carriers with beam attacks to their engines. Without engine power they wont be able to attack, retreat, or recharge their beam weapons. We should make sure the bit weapons are painted black to make them even harder to see.

    Ideally we want to force a retreat while preventing them from having time to rescue the crews of the disabled ships. This should help prevent them from using ther self destruct systems to scuttle them. Essentially we'll be taking the crews hostage. Towards that end we should try to get some infantry before we launch.
    If we can repell this assault and secure enough POW's in the process we can use it for leverage to sue for peace.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 02/18/11(Fri)20:16 No.13951926
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    --OMAKE--

    Performance report on the Nacht-Zaku (Revision 5)

    By Head Engineer Ookawara

    Changes to the Nacht-Zaku were relatively minor in comparison to Zolomon's requests, but nevertheless required the construction of several made to measure parts on Pezun. Fitting of these parts went without problem, and gave us time to work on integrating the Beam Spray Pistol into the forearm component by replacing the heat-rod currently placed. Power constraints were an issue, the use of an e-pac "slot" which fits directly into the arm have largely fixed this issue. The Beams apeture had to be aligned more closely to prevent the "spray effect" to which the weapon get's it's name, from melting off the NZ's hand whenever it fires. It's firepower and range has increased somewhat, but it is still below that of other beam weapons currently in use. No other problems are recorded.
    >> Arty 02/18/11(Fri)20:25 No.13952017
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    >>13951763
    >>13951770
    Wait, he actually made it?
    Oh god Zol's suit is becoming a hellish Frankenstein nightmare creation.
    >> ZeonDudes Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)20:30 No.13952055
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    apologized, if your still around, can you give us a brief description of Option and Rance's prefered methods of attack and weapon specialties?
    >> Researcher Sam 02/18/11(Fri)20:43 No.13952159
    >>13951770
    >PROPOSAL: Replace complicated triple barrelled array for a single beam rifle weapon based around the Gelgoog pattern.

    No no no, the whole point of it is that it has 3 beam weapons. I suggest going with the first proposal, allowing only one to fire at a time. Thusly they fire in sequence, and at short range this means a devastating barrage of beam shots. Ideally, long range is handled by the single beam rifle, while up close the two beam guns alternate fire, hopefully functioning like a rapid-fire beam gatling, not dissimilar to the Goof that Zol piloted so long ago.
    >> Anonymous 02/18/11(Fri)22:36 No.13953576
    >>13951888
    The best thing we could do with the Elmeth is use its bits as a anvil to control the movement of enemy forces for the hammer of the teams MS units. Or we get to the anvil and she gets to the hammer, depending on the situation. This would be more straight forward for MS targets than for capital ships. Unless we serve as a distraction while Nell sneaks a bit right up to the front of the bridge.

    ...of course, if we could use Nell's neuromancy powers for short-range battle predictions and the Elmeth's psycommu system to coordinate or widespread forces, we could know what the feds are planning and respond before THEY know what they're supposed to be doing. Which is a whole 'nother plan of attack.

    >We should make sure the bit weapons are painted black to make them even harder to see.
    Maybe paint them like skeleton fingers?

    >If we can repell this assault and secure enough POW's in the process we can use it for leverage to sue for peace.
    That could work. Anything that wipes out large numbers of their pegasus fleet without too much (visible) fuss on our part or successful defense on their part would do the trick. Those birds are the centerpiece of the fed forward campaign. Without them it'll get a lot harder for them to support a MS force away from earth or luna II and they've lost a substantial investment.



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