An entire small city's worth of LARPers with a life of it's own? That's right.

Some people just like to watch and relax...

>>14671459

...maybe do a little shopping...

>>14671477

...or a little drinking.

>>14671459
Are they in a hot tub with a hookah?!

I dislike the idea of nerds running around the woods wearing skirts, so the whole subject's a bit out of bound for me.

swedish larps FOREVER

Whe you start having LARP BattleTech, call me.

>>14671501

Why, yes. Yes they are.

>>14671503

Look. We LIKE our nerds in skirts running around in the woods at this LARP. You don't like them?

>>14671506
Did you think the big flag was a mecha from the thumbnail too?

Because I totally did.

>>14671429
>massive armies
>cool scenery
>badass costumes

I have never once seen any one of these elements present in a LARP.

>>14671506

When they manage to give us recreational bipedal 'Mechs and a big field to pelt around in, yep. Till then...

>>14671531

Yeah. Was sad when it wasn't a Mech.

http://englishrussia.com/index.php/2009/07/06/fall-out-for-real/

Not sure about massive armies. But bad ass costumes and cool scenery are there for sure.

Not posting the whole set because I'm lazy. Look at the link.

>>14671541

Well, apparently you haven't been to ones like this. Enjoy the tour.

>>14671541

>badass costumes

Got that covered.

>>14671626

Covered in spades. Or Sigmar, in this case.

>>14671544
I was so pissed when the "Dave and Buster's" in the Palisades Mall removed their Btech pods.

>>14671541

>>cool scenery

Fortresses are meant to be stormed, after all.

>>14671643

...and defended.

costumes you say?

codpiece you say?

>>14671662

There's a LOT of people running around this game. Those folks in the mundane clothing are refs and game staff, who dress that way so you don't mistake them for something that needs saving- or thumping.

swords you say?

>>14671665
Moar of that.

>>14671686
can only find this pic of him...but I know there is more, haha

>>14671676

Speaking of them what needs a thumping...yeah, we got bad guys.

And even the good die young.

And the bad often live long...if you call this living.

Chaos is fond of letting it's champions persist to un-natural periods of time, as well. Papa Nurgle loves this guy.

>Cause face it, you like seeing massive armies, cool scenery, and badass costumes
>massive armies
>cool scenery
>badass costumes
I thought this was about LARPs.

>>14671741

His minons love to spread the wealth. Nothing like a cool bath of plague goop to make you unwelcome to the living...

>>14671743
I laffed a little

>>14671743

It's OK. We know by comparison, a lot of US LARPs are just full of props that are frankly, dickish.

>>14671760

Just don't laugh at the furry ones here, or you might end up like the guy in the background.

>>14671498

Remember this? Here's the outside view. Landship.

Unlike some games, the cake is not a lie. It is also delicious. You gotta feed all these adventurers and such, y'know.

I live in the UK. Considering doing some larp during the summer. (Live in South-west)
What can you tell me I'll need, what there is etc.
Also: what would they think about a air-pressure "Potato" gun - designed to look like a Hand cannon/musket/arquebus or something?

Also, I'd perfer something that wasnt entirely fantasy based. Maybe partially (like other races) but very little magic and such.
Pic unrelated.

And of course, even the living aren't all human. Or really living. Orcs, of course.

>>14671851

Start here, mate.

http://forums.rule7.co.uk/

There's fantasy in all ranges, including low-to-no magic/steampunk, and post-apocalyptic too. About as easy a place to find info on damn near everything you'd need to start off in the UK.

>>14671882
Can you tell me what to expect first time? Would you advise going alone first or bringing a friend or two along?

>>14671882

And yes, there are LARPs that use LARPsafe guns. Can't have proper pirates without flintlocks, right?

>>14671916

First thing I suggest- take your time. Like 4Chan, lurk a bit on Rule7. Read about different games, what catches your fancy, what you'll want/need. Newbies are generally recieved quite friendly-like.

It's easier with friends as a raw newbie, I will say. Barring that, make friends. Ask folks that are already playing to pal around with at first, so you can dip your toes in (as it were) and to give you ideas as to how to play a given faction/group by example. LARPs are social games, after all. Try not to lose many body parts early on, but hey- it can happen. Builds character.

Larping. Its sad when the guy in charge of the event told me that every woman there was a slut, because they knew no one would turn them down.

>>14671947
>Newbies are generally recieved quite friendly-like.
Newbie means "Treat them like children, if they start to have fun, beat them until they're panting, then tell them to not be so unsafe on the field"

>>14671854

Sometimes, they're just animated...

>>14672009

...other times summoned.

>>14672023

Sometimes, I THINK they started out human, but it's hard to tell.

>>14672002

Hardly. From experience, if you're willing to learn, you don't get banged down like a tent-peg.

Fuck with everyone around you, play Chaotic Stupid or generally make a point of stepping on toes....and there are consequences.

>>14672080

If you're unlucky or just plain act dumb, you'll probably end up here soon enough. Your friends will have a quiet spot to mourn your mouldering corpse in it's shallow grave...and yes, they're always adding more at these sorts of gathering. Adventurers are violent bastards.

>>14672113

Of course, there's REALLY unlucky. The undead who claim the badly wounded or dead always can use some fresh parts. Being alive is no impediment to donating to the Forsaken.

>>14671916

That reminds me. It is ALWAYS a good idea, regardless of game....to make friends with the healers. The life you save WILL be your own.

>>14672147

Because this will happen to the feisty (and not so feisty) newbie at least once. Some mean ol' bastard will have a reason to have a go at you, and rough you up a bit. (If you're good about it, he's also probably the guy you'll be having a pint with later- don't be whiny.)

OP here. Back in a bit. Don't kill the thread while I'm out, eh?

Hey LARPers, your aid could be used here:
>>14671901

Ok what is this larping thing... like a roleplaying game out in the sticks? Can someone that knows about this tell me about it? Maybe a quick summary? What are the rules, usually? What if someone doesn't follow rules? How serious do people take this at these events?

>>14672236

>>boffer porn?

Pic related.

>>14672302

>Ok what is this larping thing... like a roleplaying game out in the sticks?

Some are. Mythodea and Drachenfest (the two biggest ones in Germany, from which many of the pics here are from) are in the 5-7000 person range. Games range in scale and scenery from big-ass ones like this to smaller ones that are measured in dozens rather than 100s, tucked into Scout camps and parks in the US, or historical sites in the UK and Europe, or even sites literally built out of nothing like Biccoline in Quebec.

>Can someone that knows about this tell me about it? Maybe a quick summary? What are the rules, usually?

The biggest percentage of LARPs are fantasy-based, but the rules vary a lot like pen-and-paper RPGs. Some are more combat games, others are almost totally roleplaying, but most fall somewhere in the middle.

>What if someone doesn't follow rules? How serious do people take this at these events?

Mostly, they'll take it about as seriously as if you were cheating at a game of D&D or 40K. You'll get warned, eventually you'll get kicked out. Some events are more intense than others- playing "lets pretend" gets that way depending on what people are putting into it. Generally, unless you're a completely insensitive dick you'll be able to roll with whatever's going on.

>>14672893

How much rule-wise a game has tends to be based on what they want to do. Games that are "you can do what you can do" tend to be more rules-light, ones that try to simulate a lot more of the fantastic (tossing fireballs around like a D&D wizard, complex combat systems, lots of game races with supernatural abilities) are often more rules-heavy. Exactly HOW they do it varies, but almost all of them do it in real-time. There are no "turns", people will react to what you do naturally and appropriately (for what they're playing). Many games have people as NPC's- playing stuff for the people who created the game as background, opposition, or information for the other players. (Which has it's perks- the game usually provides all the props and kit for those characters)

low rules
low magic
is best game

>>14672183

OP, back again. Now, mind you depending on the game a healer can be anything from a quickly chanted spell to...more painful measures. Low magic games usually mean you're going to likely end up under the knife.

>>14673090

Of course, sometimes people REALLY get mangled. Yes, you darn well should RP along with it. Scream, gurgle, twitch, bleed (fake blood). The folks playing healers at games like this love making it part of the whole experience, if a gruesome bit!

>>14671665
I'd love to see more of this fellow's armor.

>>14673110

Of course, there has to be opportunity for the butchers to work on you...generally, it's days like these. From armies on the field to being ambushed by orcs in a dark forest at midnight, blood will spill.

>>14673135

Not that the orcs NEED a dark forest at midnight. You don't wanna be in front of them when they're ready to have a go.

>>14673154

Take a look at this photo. Now imagine what it's like being in the middle of a horde of hacking, screaming, and fighting.

It's a chaotic, confusing rush that is only contained generally by whoever your allies are. If that. Sure, those are latex and foam weapons. Trust me, you aren't thinking that way when that fanged monster is swinging a hammer down and the guy next to you screams for a second as it crushes into his chest...and lies there, so very still and silent...even though they're acting and so are you.

>>14673122
so would I but I cant find it, haha!

The "people" next to you might not even be humans- and RPing something you tend to forget IS one, under the costume and makeup. Because they won't always act like your bros in funny clothes. They're playing someone-or something else, with their own agendas, "culture", and sometimes even language.

>>14673110

Amputate limb
>Advice surgeon
Put a hook on it

>>14673229

And that sorta thing tends to get reinforced when people play together in large groups, factions, armies. Live-action roleplaying feeds off both the atmosphere of the site and the people around you, so it can get emotionally charged- sure, these ladies may not be able to REALLY hurt you in real life, but you WILL know fear if they're looking for you. Collective suspension of disbelief = something awesome that has to be experience to really understand it fully. Re-enactors tend to understand it pretty well, cause much the same thing happens with them.

>>14673279

Of course, bigger games tend to do it better, with more resources to build a "world" from in numbers and materials...but that's why there's so many LARPers. For a few days, you get to play in a world that isn't your own, to "be what you aren't, but have fun being" with a bunch of folks who are all in the same frame of mind.

>>14673310

You play, you party, you have fun, you make some VERY strange friends, and generally part ways tired, dirty, exhausted, and so fucking ready to go do it again next time once you can actually move all your limbs properly.

>>14673327

And as you can see, LARPers often end up making their own game communities, factions, tribes, all a part of the world they've managed to imagine up together to play in. Yes, neckbeards...guys AND girls if you haven't clued on that. LARPs being social, they're a lot less split unequally along gender lines.

>>14673352

Powerful characters can end up male...

>>14673365

...and female...

>ITT: You will never be a european LARPer *sadfrog.jpg*

>>14673376

...and sometimes, you're just not damn sure. You're just going "Wow."

>>14673379
>mfw when I am

>>14673379
You know, after being quite fail some 4-5 years ago (young and foolish) perhaps I should pick it up again for summer... And now I actually have money to spend on equipment.

>>14673379

What, you say you wanna go over and play at Drachenfest or Mythodea?

Shit, it may be in Germany, but there's folks from all over the world, including a good sized chunk of English-speaking types.

http://www.thegreatexpedition.org/

That's this year's big traveling pack of English-speaking folks...so if you're up to taking a trip in late July -> early August, you got a group to go in with. (Well, unless you're playing an undead or Chaos scum)

Drachenfest is July 26th-31st, Mythodea starts setting up camps August 1st, and the event runs August 3rd-7th. They're planning on hitting both.

Call to Adventure, /tg/. Dare to answer, or are these guys scaring you? :)

>>14673400

I mean, are you gonna leave noblewomen in the hands of monsters when they're literally looking for some hero to save them? Given, being eaten is probably a kinder fate than being turned into some rotting horror, but really.

>>14673365
>can end up male
...
they'll change our gender?

>>14673550

Seen it happen. Usually NOT to the willing.

Me, I'm in it for the wine and courtesans. It's sorta like ale and whores, only generally the rugs are comfy and there's far fewer fleas.

>>14673565

Hmm. Speaking of those...

...you tend to really crave that sorta thing after dealing with this sorta thing.

Ugh. You want to scrub yourself with soap for hours if he gives you the Bad Touch...

>>14673571

Of course, if you're not playing a human, maybe these are more up your alley...

>>14673626

...or you prefer someone who actually fought at your side, rather than a bought companion.

>>14673571
>men are shirtless
>women are dressed very modestly
So...
those are the courtesans of LARP, then? The men too lazy to fight?

>>14673655

> You will never meet a cute, nerdy girl who will pretend to be an elf princess for you and fight by your side.
> ;_;

Oh. Wait. I do know a girl like that. And she makes Liv Tyler look like a horse.

Except I'm too beta to talk to her.

>;_;

>>14673655
>...or you prefer someone who actually fought at your side, rather than a bought companion.
Yes, that.
But hopefully one a bit better looking than those pictured.

>>14673675
>implying you need to put Liv Tyler next to another girl to point out that she looks like a horse

>>14673696

>implying you still wouldn't fuck that horse.

>>14673722
>implying I wouldn't fuck any horse

>>14673727

>implying I'm tall enough to fuck a horse

>>14673722
>implying you wouldn't ride her like Barbaro and put her down when you broke her leg
>implying... wait, what? Damn I'm high.

>>14673696

Yeah, I'm no Liv Tyler fan, but this girl is just beautiful. The first time I saw her at the sparring club, I thought she was doing it as a prank or something, because I didn't think that someone so beautiful would willingly hang out with a bunch of aspie weeaboo neckbeards. Turns out she loves fantasy and anime, though, and she went to the Renaissance festival with the club. Never talks, though. Too shy. When she does talk, it's always interesting.

>>14673745
Sounds like the sort that you need to get up against the wall and rail like there's not tomorrow.

I got a good looking GF who loves the Ren fest. Loves the dress up, loves fantasy, loves games.

I just need to get a weapon in her hand...

Although she's violent enough as it is...

>>14673764
You are very wise, friend.

>>14673764

I would. Believe me, I would. But there are two problems:

1. I'm fairly certain she has a boyfriend, who lives in the university's area.
2. Even if she were single, it still wouldn't work. She's out of my league.

>>14673788
well, see...if you dont at least give it a shot then you'll never know.
give it a shot and then you'll at least know.
just dont try to spoil the friendship

>>14673685

Gotcha.

>>14673788
>1. I'm fairly certain she has a boyfriend, who lives in the university's area.
Is he into LARP?
If not, then he doesn't matter.
If he is, can you beat him?
If so, then he still doesn't matter.

>2. Even if she were single, it still wouldn't work. She's out of my league.
>out of my league.
NO SUCH THING

>>14673788

I once thought as you do.

Then I railed a chick on my boss' desk at work.

GO.
FOR.
IT.

>>14673808
>boobplate
Nope.

>>14673819

Fine, fine. Better?

>>14673788
just don't believe in yourself...

BELIEVE IN ME WHO BELIEVES IN YOU!

>>14673860

Or this?

I'd take both.
at the same time

>>14673813

No idea on any of those. I loathe drama, though. And after the last time I got involved with a woman, I'm making sure that she isn't taken. Last time, a girl used me to make her boyfriend (who I didn't know about) jealous before a breakup. That was unpleasant for me, and I'd rather avoid those kinds of situations in the future.

Also, there is such a thing as not being in the same league as someone. I've got poor facial symmetry, a pinched face, and I'd have to lose at least 20 pounds before I looked decent from the waist down. Combine that with my awkward personality and I can drain the sensuality out of any romantic situation faster than a vacuum cleaner with the mouth of a French prostitute.

when did this turn into "LARP do or dont" thread?

>>14673886

I dunno. Here, have something furry...and yes, one of them is female.

>>14673886

Probably when chicks were brought up. Man, they ruin everything...

>>14673874
shit, what have ya got to loose?
You know how many people is out of my leage? Im the most unpleasant, one eyed bastard in all of the northern hemisphere except from that one italian guy with an extra index finger...
Do I give a shit? Hell no!
Grab life by the balls and TWIST EM! thats what Im saying. what have ya got to lose?

>>14673910

Oh, and some shamans too. Since you did.

>>14673910

Please tell me it's kosher to kill them in battle, "skin" them, and wear part of their fursuit abomination as a trophy.

Larping isn't half as much fun as you think. Basically, imagine a game of D&D where everyone believes and enforces a game where you advance by literally hitting someone,or sleeping around.

And they can visibly prove that their imaginary character is "better" because they spent more money on a costume.

>>14673874
You don't even know if she has a guy in the first place? Man, fucking go for it.
>Last time, a girl used me to make her boyfriend (who I didn't know about) jealous before a breakup.
So when you get the dude talking to you about it, be like, "hey man, I didn't even know" and that'll be the end of it.
If the girl is doing shit you can't respect, drop her. But there's no use not going for this girl just because the last girl you messed with wasn't worth the time of day.

>Also, there is such a thing as not being in the same league as someone. I've got poor facial symmetry, a pinched face, and I'd have to lose at least 20 pounds before I looked decent from the waist down.
Eh, ladies don't care much about looks anyway.
>Combine that with my awkward personality and I can drain the sensuality out of any romantic situation faster than a vacuum cleaner with the mouth of a French prostitute.
Bullshit. You've got the suave lady-killing power of the greatest of bards. You just don't know it yet, because you pussy out.
And even if you say something that's odd, own the fuck up to it. Chicks will probably just think it's cute or whatever.

>>14673932
pff, thats a shit larp.
best larps dont use character sheets

>>14673928
affecting a player's garb is grounds for immeadiate removal from the field.

>>14673945
...Where did I say character sheet? No, they simply believe, "I can hit you until you cry before you can make me stop, since I take this shit seriously, therefore you are beneath me"

90% of larp groups are on the FBI watch list for being PRACTICING MILITIAS

>>14673910

>Badgerbarian

>>14673963
thought it was implied with the "advances by hitting people"

>>14673917
>except from that one italian guy with an extra index finger...

I see what you did there.

>>14673963
>"I can hit you until you cry before you can make me stop, since I take this shit seriously, therefore you are beneath me"
Not gonna lie, that's totally how I would be if I LARPed. And they'd damn well be willing to fight back. Otherwise, what's the point?

>>14673989
No, that means that until you physically beat people into submission, no one cares about you.

>>14673998

Roleplaying is for faggots. You do what I say or you get the staff to your face. Go cry about rules elsewhere, beta.

>>14673917

I could make a list of all the things I could lose by trying to get near her, but given the length of such a list I can sum it up in two things:

1. I really like this girl. Really, really like her. When she's in the room, she's all I can think about, and after I see her she's the only thing in my head all day after. I avoid her because of the way she makes me feel, because I know that if I stay near her, the feeling of having a cement ball in my stomach will get worse, and I'll act more and more idiotic until I make an ass out of myself in some spectacular fashion.

2. I could hurt her. If I make a move on her, in even the subtlest and smoothest ways I can imagine, I'll be putting her in a difficult spot. Look at it from her perspective: a fat, ugly, tall basement dweller is attracted to you. Wouldn't you be disgusted, even on an unconscious level?

> betaasfuck.jpg

>>14674002
still sounds like a shit larp

>>14674021
Because its not larp. Its "bunch of guys in the woods trying to be alpha male with sticks, and the enabling whores they pass around"

>>14674018
wait youre asking if I would? hell yeah, but remember, I'm a horrible person.
listen mate, if you really like her alot you gotta do it. I didnt, and I will never stop grumbling about it.

>>14674038
then what is it doing in this thread?
sounds like re-enactment it does! HAHA!

>>14674021
>>14674038
Sounds fun to me.

>>14674018
>1
So ask her the fuck out already.
>2
First off, son't be fat and ugly. Your actual physical features don't matter much. Don't perceive yourself as fat and ugly, and nobody else will.

And you're not going to fucking "hurt" a girl by asking her out. If you do it in front of a bunch of people, you'd likely embarrass her. So don't do that, and you're golden.

>>14674018

Been there. Done that.

At the end of the day you must purge the fixation.

You must have consensual sex in missionary position.

Or you know...have a discussion with her. And afterwards, don't think about too much after. It was a discussion.

Things tend to work themselves out.

>>14674072
Because its what is called "Larp", but is not actually larp.

LARP is, in THEORY, live action roleplay. In PRACTICE, its socially maladjusted people discovering that for once in their miserable lives, they can get what they want through sheer force, with carefully structured rules to prevent escalation of force.

>>14674018
>> betaasfuck.jpg
HEY I FOUND YOUR PROBLEM
Don't be beta. Man the fuck up.

>>14673947

Then fuck your LARP, fuck your fetishes, and I'm out. If you're able to impose your fetish on the world, then I should be able to ruin it for you.

>>14674094
if you go to a shitty larp then yes, it is. thats why you avoid the shitfests

>>14674111
>if you go to the shitty larps
So if you go to larps, then?

>>14674101

MENSCHEN UBER ALLES!!!!

I've always wanted to join an established LARP with some bros and wreck shit for all those silly political types.

Mercenary uprising, go.

>>14674126
fuck off

>>14674078

Great. Now, I'll plan this motherfucker out. Job, gymn, Bruce Campbell. The keys to success with women.

They'll say it's a suicide mission. I'll prove them wrong.

>>14674094

Funny thing, that. I saw a lot of that dickwaving with boffers in stuff like Darkon and Amtgard- which really are "hitting people with boffers, the game" vs stuff like this.

Truth be told, you wonder why European LARPers shake their heads at American ones, these people are it.

>>14674151
eye of the tiger an all that. Make /tg proud ot I'll stab ya

>>14674158
Because they have rules for magic and shit. Dagorhir's better, you just beat people until they stop moving.

>>14674171

I WILL THANK YOU FATHER

>>14674151

Confidence, son. Self-confidence, and being comfortable in your own skin, drops more panties than anything short of a roofie-colada with a diamond bracelet around it. YOU don't like how you look, YOU don't like your personality, so how the fuck are you going to sell it to anyone else? Admit your failings, do what you can to change what you can, man up, and GO AFTER HER.

News flash: pretty girls have self-esteem problems too. Just because you find her attractive doesn't mean SHE finds her attractive. Find out if she's seeing anyone, move slow, show open interest, and be self-confident. Give beta-you an asskicking and steal his girl. It'll feel nice to be on the other side of that scenario.

oh yeah bitch

>>14674101

Except, of course that you realize that what you're doing is actually tearing the shit out of someone's costume and kit, which isn't your property to begin with.

You don't draw the line on "acceptable". The people running the game do. You don't like it? Don't play, ask for a refund, GTFO. Feel free to try and shiv em in the dark, but vandalism is just petty and criminal.

>>14674208

That's... pretty good advice.

On a related note, is it acceptable to post a pic of what I'm going up against?

>>14674222
and even at that, they do not need to be furries just cus they have good costumes.
well, the goatman costume is excellent anyhow.
we dont acuse orc players of being...er...orcophiles?

>>14674222
>You don't like it? Don't play
>fuck your LARP, fuck your fetishes, and I'm out

Yiff away, furfag. I'm not about to tell you how to have fun.

>>14674226
4chan likes pictures

>>14674246
Yeah you do. That or pansies who need to pretend to be monsters to get it up

>>14674185

Same difference. Best reference I've heard was "It's Fight Club while wearing kit that's been hit with the ugly stick.". There's about dead zero of the live-action and even less of the role-playing in LRP, and it pretty much tars the entire US with the same brush.

Pic related, it's the face of US LARPing to most of the world.

All i have to say is that AMTGARD IS HORRIBLE. They flick their quarter pound "Boffers" like faggots

while almost all other larps hit like real men.
Pic related, its a real man.

>>14674246

There's anthropomorphization, and there's furries. The goatman pic? Acceptable. Full-on fursuits? Hell the fuck no.

>>14674281
agreed

>>14674262
no true scotsman, indeed

>>14674222
>implying a shiv in the dark isn't criminal

>>14674258

This is the only picture I could find, hence the size. Coincidentally, she was featured in the same column as the girl who used me. It's a motherfucking omen.

>>14674296
Go for it, you bastard
>>14674297
it is, but I can highly reccomend it for purposes of revenge and justice

>>14674271
>Pic related, it's the face of US LARPing to most of the world.
Haters and nerds gonna hate. I am quite fine playing a war game style larp. Fuck, if one country came with jerseys I would laugh my ass off.

>>14674310
wehey! mixed up my replies!
how droll...

>>14674297

All women will use you for something.

You just have to find the one that uses you in the right way, and hang on tight.

Also, I approve, get your montage on, win that girl.

>>14674297
That's it? I can tell you straight, she doesn't think she's nearly as hot as you think she is. She's really not anything special in the looks department, she just seems that way to you because you're into her.
Just fucking go for it. Don't even bother with any gym or anything beyond what you currently do, just next time you see her, ask her out to coffee or something as an incidental.

>>14674297
Also,
>filename
Yes, but don't mention that to her and it won't matter.

>>14674326
we are all played by someone. all we can hope for is that it is done with style

>>14674321
The first one was still quite appropriate.

>>14674297

Enh, I give her a 6-7, dependent upon body type. I definitely didn't go breathless at a glance. And here's the thing: YOU think she's a 10, because YOU LIKE HER. Your hormones are telling you she's perfect. But like every single woman on the planet, she has her flaws.

She's only out of your league if you exclude her. Better to swing for the bleachers every single time than to bunt and go home unsatisfied.

>>14674339

I would encourage the gym if only for yourself. Even if it's just once a week, those extra endorphins will at least make you feel ALPHA AS FUCK.

>>14674310

The weird thing? No one seems to notice her. She's beautiful and graceful and poised, but it's like their eyes just slide over her. My friends who have talked with her (one was a ca/tg/irl who was narrating my discomfort at being caught between MtG players while the girl in my pic was laughing) can't remember a single thing the girl says, and even the most virile self-declared perverts in my group can't mention ever having noticed the girl.

>>14674339
And make sure you get a goddamn time and place set!
if you just go for the "coffee some time" you'll prolly fail.

>>14674363
You know what that means? Nobody else thinks she's hot. Probably including her.
She is totally not out of your league.

>>14674339
>>14674360

BLASPHEMY, HERESY, SACRILEGE AND SLANDER

>>14674363
...aw...thats love...
yeah yeah, friggin cute n' shit. friggin go for it or you'll end up like me.

>>14674394

... One eyed, Swedish and on 4chan?

>>14674391
yeah yeah, people insulted your waifu. Except it's just an honest assessment. To people who aren't you, she's nothing special

>>14674405
norwegian. stuck in wales.
And you dont want that

>>14674410

... My god. Now I know how those creepy furfags feel when someone insults Krystal.

I'm a monster.

>>14674410
think he's not serious

>>14674423

Well, the Swedish thing was a shot in the dark, but at least I was close.

>>14674363

Even better. Then from your description, she's probably used to being / feeling like the wallflower. Pull her out. Make her the center of your attention. Complement her. It'll go further than SUDDEN SELF-CHANGE ADONIS ever could.

>>14674365

This. Pick something non-committal, something you both dig and that inviting her along to won't immediately connote COURTIN' TIME!. "Coffee" is bad, due to modern aspersions. Well, unless there's a coffee bar on campus, it's nearby, it's something you'd both do, and you can do something fun together while coffee-ing.

Hell, if she's a nerd, drag her out to Suncoast for anime, or a local indie theater, or the FLGS for that matter. Especially the FLGS; contrasting your ability to speak to her without leering and not being a disgusting unwashed fat fuck with the greasy slime that frequents FLGSs is a great way to build your cred.

>>14674313

It isn't even hate. It's the random machismo combined with crappy kit, the belief that "if I beat on them harder, I'm better", and that somehow, all this crudity actually means that in an actual game, they'd actually be better than the guys who put ten times the effort into both kit and training- if put into anything other than "repeatedly hitting the other guy with a pool noodle".

Basically, guys like these and groups like them would clean the average "sword tag" mob up like the disorganized, ill-skilled rabble they are. And then the sword-tag types would probably get pissy and swing harder to compensate for feeling their asses got kicked till the refs tossed them out for general wankery and poor sportsmanship.

>>14674443
listen to this bloke. he is wisdom

>>14674443
>Inviting someone to the LFGS is a good idea
>this is what fa/tg/uys actually believe
Nah.

>"Coffee" is bad, due to modern aspersions.
>aspersions
>a damaging or derogatory remark or criticism; slander
???????
Coffee is good because it implies that he's romantically interested, but having coffee with someone isn't actually meaningful by itself.

>>14674443

FLGS could work. Coffee wouldn't work, though, and movie theaters have similar connotations that are undesirable.

>>14674493
then again, if she is a fantasy geek she prolly aint into the "normal stuff"

>>14674512
Those connotations aren't undesirable. What's undesirable about movie theaters is that you can't really talk much while you're watching a movie.
Also it's sort of highschool-tier.

>>14674521

She made her own costume for the Renaissance festival trip, and carried an animatronic dragon around on her shoulder. She's definitely not into normal stuff.

>>14674446
Not sure what you mean, "sword tag" makes me think of nero type arrangements, while darkon/dagohir and as far as I know amgtard have full contact combat

Honestly, all the kit or effort in the world does not change the fact that the person who beats the hardest(perhaps most effectively is a better term) is the best.

>>14674493

If she's into FLGS-type things, then bringing her to the FLGS is good. Same as taking her to a shoe store if she's a shoe whore. And the added bonus of "I dig the things you dig, but I'm not a drooling fucktard like these guys" is a plus.

Also, I dunno how it is in Euroland, but in 'Murika, "coffee" is a euphemism for "a date I don't call a date". Same thing with "want to catch a movie?". It sets off red flags for girls who are intimidated by come-ons, which Ms. Wallflower might be. You want your first approach to be neutral, and then you use your assets to move it along, or she gets impatient and she makes the moves. Convince her that the whole thing's her idea, and you've won without trying.

>>14674555
hirr... yeah you really need to go for it. and get her her into something that lets ya talk alot. I find that inviting someone for a good ol' stroll works great when you ust wanna chat...
and tryin' fer movies and coffee and whatever prolly wont HURT

>>14674606

Yeah, I'm only giving the no-coffee/movies advice in case she's the type that runs screaming from that sort of thing. Unconventional girls, unconventional angles. Maybe he'll ask her out for coffee and she'll fuck his brains out. Who knows. Just stacking the deck for anonibro.

(I Don Juan vicariously, because my wife won't let me anymore. ~_~;)

>>14674634
>>14674634
> Maybe he'll ask her out for coffee and she'll fuck his brains out.

"Hey, have you had breakfast yet?"

"N-n-no..."

"The coffee bar's just downstairs. Want to join m-"

"YOU! INSIDE ME! NOW!"

"W-what?"

"YOUR SEED! I REQUIRE NUTRIENTS AND MUST FEED!"

>perfectwoman.jpg

>>14674634
hey, I really shouldnt be talkin'. my social graces extends no further than "I wont stab you with my frok if you wont stab me with yours" and thats when negotiations break down.

So yeah, your wisdom is better than mine! haHA!

>>14674667
HAH! I laffed

>>14674667

>"Mmmmm, that was great. AND NOW I MUST CONSUME YOUR HEAD!"
>*imokaywiththis.jpg*

>>14674667
I'd fuck her

>>14674697

"DO NOT LAUGH, MORTAL, OR YOUR PENIS SHALL BE THE NEXT TO BE DRAINED OF LOVE JUICE."

>>14674700

There are worse ways to die.

>>14674742
Youre sayin' it as if it is a bad thing.

alltho' I really could do with not having my head eaten. sure it barely works as it is... but still

>>14674700
...Which head?

>>14674767

Well, for better or for worse, I'll let you guys know how everything turns out. Thanks for the advice.

>>14674793
disapoint us and we'll break yer knees.
in a supportive way, but still...

>>14674809
"Are... Are you sure this is a good idea?"
"Don't worry, bro, this will totally help to get pity sex!"
"Wait, wha-"
"Hold still!"
"Ogodithurts!"

>>14674837
purdy much, yeap
alltho having someone bouncing on top of you after that...well...

>>14674567

Let's put it this way. A bunch of random yahoos who don't drill together, fight together, are armed with random weapons to their personal preference vs. an organized group who do are dogmeat. Whether it's a LRP fight or a real one (which neither battling with sock-covered pillow dicks or a latex weapon is).

That is, the average mob of Amtgard/Dagohir/whatever "battle games" are enthusastic, but untrained and undisciplined. So if you put them up against folks like these, it's like peasants vs. soldiers (even though compared to real ones, they're both a pack of amateurs). They're gonna get their asses kicked and be grumpy about it.

>>14674848
US larper here, Bunch of eurolarp guys in the group I go with. Through actually being to able form effective formations and drilling regularly we pretty much made the current npcs impotent. Gave me a damn good look at how much nicer it is to larp in europe.

>>14674848
...In theory. In practice, the Dag guys are just going to go complete the objective while the prissies march information, or pelt them with javvies and arrows.

But hey, show how "superior" you are by getting a few dozen people to train as a fighting unit in a game about foam swords.

>>14674848
now doing both re-enactment and larp... that puts you in an advantage.
if nothing else, it does it kitwise, haha.
I find it hard to adjust to not being allowed to stab.
I love me a good stabbing...

>>14674837
"You know..."
>CRACK
"We're really not angry..."
>CRACK
"Just..you know..."
>CRACK
"Disappointed..."

>>14674919
>"Just..you know..."
>Just..you
>..

Pic related.

>>14674848
(citation needed)
The professionalism and teamwork varies widely depending on the game and group. Also, being able to march in step and uniform weapons is not necessarily a good thing you know.

as reenactors they are better, but the dag lads especially are sport fighters

>>14674916

And the beer's better over there, too.

>>14674916

Also, here's your mission. Take this. The other side will be pelting you with arrows, siege weaponry, and have a line of mean motherfuckers keeping the gate for good measure till they close it in your face.

>>14678885

While you're all running around outside looking for people to swat, things like this will be launching these at you. One-shot KO's, BTW. Your pillow shields avail you not.

>>14678898

These nice folks will hopefully be merciful enough to take care of whatever broken shells manage to drag themselves off the field. Sorry, no e-z instant rezzes for you here after the battles!

>>14678926

But trust me. Once you get a taste of places like that, you'll probably want to give up the crappy costumes, crappy kit, and crappy sites and realize there's better in life, even when it's whapping each other with latex weapons. Heck, you could do it too- even you had the collective self-respect to do so. If a bunch of Canadians can do this...

>>14678961

...the Americans could be a lot less sad about it. Cause seriously. We don't hate you. We're sad for you. You miss out on what could be so much better. Don't be beat up about it, DO something about it!

>>14678973

Seriously. You can do better than this. Most of you are stuck in the equivalent of LRP Hell over there. Or at least Purgatory, and don't even know it.

>>14679014

That's why I haven't involved myself in the larps in the states.

>>14679014

Eh. You DO know we're not all like that, right?

Pics related. I'd say the whole "looks good" and "fights good" thing is split here. Some of the LARPers have the latter down, the SCAdians tend to have the former down (along with a few zillion similar smaller groups), and Pennsic is bigger than Mythodea + Drachenfest at a bit over 11,000 folks for the week.

Pic related, that's Pennsic from the air.

>>14679050

Even some of the LARPs are starting to get kit and quality up in the US, though it's either rare or a scattershot effect. Good kit just doesn't exist in shops over in the US, and precious few places have the population to support a proper trader's tent like you see even in a lot of the smaller UK games. Most LARPers would give their left nut for even something like Mytholon over here, or the UK LARP shops.

>>14679122

Pic is a site in NJ. Note the great reduction in dickswords, tablecloth tabards, and general fugliness compared to >>14674271 shit. Effort and having some standards matters.

>>14679134

Captcha ate the pic.

>>14679137

And yes, they even can dress up a site decently. Sadly, this is more the exception than the rule in the US, but it's coming along.

I like the idea of larping. However, I think the idea of chucking bean bags at each other yelling "lightning bolt!" or putting on white gloves to denote holding some contact spell is beyond stupid.

What larps exist without shitty "magic"?

>>14679137
I am amused by the fact I know this guy irl.

>>14679265

I like the ones that make you earn xp and buy skills you already actually have.

One in New Jersey wanted me to attend four events and then spend xp to buy the ability to use a spear.

>see pics

all my hate anon. All of it....

Why the flying fuck this thread wasn't already archived?

>>14679265

In the US? Few and far between- using beanbags to represent ranged spell/alchemy stuff is common, and the majority of the systems can point back to "high fantasy"/D&D for their ancestry, and if you really want the big blame for it- it's Darkon/Amtgard. When people started games, they wanted a magic system that was a bit more complex but easier to deal with as far as what you had to carry around, since it's a goddamn pain carrying a bunch of balls around to chuck at people.

People experimented a bit. In the early 1990's, instead of beanbags, they used "spell packets" that were made with (literally) kleenex, corn starch, and a bit of scotch tape. Of course, these couldn't be re-used after tossing them and absolutely sucked in wet weather. People started taking small cloth squares, filling them with birdseed and either duct-taping or sewing them shut. This worked out well- you could carry as many as you needed easily, they survived weather fairly well, and if you lost em in the woods, the animals loved the snacks.

And that's why most US systems have people chucking beanbags at each other for spellcasting and calling spell names and effects out.

>>14679606

the big problem with magic is that you have essentially three ways to do it.
First one is the throwing stuff
This means magic won't be always "works" because of your aim. Of course you have make some calling or different kind of things to throw for different kind of magic. This an be a little confusing sometimes and let's face it, it's totally retarded for an outsider.
The next thing is simple calling, maybe you need to tell long sentences to and after you finish it the other guy get zapped or whatever. Maybe you need some ingredients. Still retarded but not as much as throwing beanbags.
The third form is that you can't use magic in battle, you can only use rituals and shit, Essentially all buffing spells and it an be actually cool. But then you lost the "dynamics" in battle what magic can give. It can be a bad or good thing depends on whom you ask

>>14679356
Oddly enough, NJ LARPfag here.

Heh. That's the "You are not your character, the character is not you." thing. The guy playing the mage had to spend build to do what he does in game, so not making a fighter spend some to do the same would be breaking the system- even European systems like Mythodea have similar rules, though they're more flexible on certain things- like weapon skills.

>>14679691

>First one is the throwing stuff
This means magic won't be always "works" because of your aim. Of course you have make some calling or different kind of things to throw for different kind of magic. This an be a little confusing sometimes and let's face it, it's totally retarded for an outsider.

Honestly, just about any system that uses a magic system that can be used in combat HAS to have some kind of verbal component and communication- because combat is a chaotic and distracting thing. Why throw something? Because mages having perfectly-aimed spells made for non-mages feeling like target practice, and dodging that spell packet = "saving throw!". It's a relic from those original magic systems- the idea that even a spellcaster should need some level of skill to actually have an effect on a target.

The next thing is simple calling, maybe you need to tell long sentences to and after you finish it the other guy get zapped or whatever. Maybe you need some ingredients. Still retarded but not as much as throwing beanbags.

See above. If it's useful in combat, it needs communication.

>The third form is that you can't use magic in battle, you can only use rituals and shit, Essentially all buffing spells and it an be actually cool. But then you lost the "dynamics" in battle what magic can give. It can be a bad or good thing depends on whom you ask

And combat magic really does add a lot to a fantasy LARP battle, when you can manage it. I like systems that invest in both- "rituals" and "battle magic".

>>14679880

I'm not saying that any of those methods are bad, just the calling/throwing stuff are looks like more retarded. But I think most of the larp fights are looks reatarded no matter how cool your equipment are. But still I'm larping because when you are not an outsider it's not that retarded.

And in simple calling systems the other PC's can have actual magic resistance. Like every wizard has a magic power and every player has a magic resistance. If the power is higher then the magic works.
There are more than one systems out there that uses this method, but it's not common

OP again. Remember how I was talking about groups and factions? Some of the big ones at Mythodea are the elements, who send their greater servants and minions. >>14672023 is one from Ignis, the fire camp. Aqua...is big with the pirates as you can guess. I don't think the mermaid hurt much.

>>14680106

People come up with the damndest weapons. I fully expect this one to show up in Final Fantasy XV.

>>14680120

They start adventurers young, too. And don't think they don't do their part.

>>14680120
>over-the-top 'cool' weapon
>shitty outfit
>with a black hood

people like that are the cancer of european larp

>>14680139
>young

you doing it wrong!

>>14680139

You wonder where those heroic types learned? On the battlefield, killing the damned with the rest of us when they were knee-high to a hill troll. By the time they've come of age, they'll be absolute terrors.

>>14680152
AHHAAHHAHHAAHHAAAAAHaaaaa....

you really didn't saw the cancer of the european larp...

>>14680184

Not kneehigh to THESE guys, of course.

>>14680189
Or I can sadly, show this... Let's face it. For every awesome or good larp out there, there are at least two other shitty one.

>>14680189
'[...]are the most common cancer of european larp' sound better to you?
There are always worse examples, like the on you just posted, but wannabe ninja-daemon-dragonknight-halfgod-assassins which usually are indentifyable by their very simple our outright bad black outfight (always with a hood cause it's 'cool and mysterious') and either dual wielding longswords or an over-the-top fantasy weapon are the most common type of shitty player I have encountered by far.

>>14680217

You are one lucky larper...

>>14680217
>outfight
meant 'outift' of course....drunk posting is bad for me....

Question for LARPers
do most of them use health systems or Iv stabbed you, your dead system?

questioning because I want to get into it and I have 4 years of swordsmanship Training, and 6 years of fencing under my belt
Would I be nearly unstoppible against the average LARPer?

>>14680202

I think this goblin would get along fine with your local AdMech types.

>>14680225
Maybe I am. Also I am pretty selective about the cons I attend. However once you get to the larger scale cons there are bound to be bad players and as I said the type I just described seemed to be the most common type of bad player there.

>>14680229

nope. In all larps head, neck and groin areas are banned hit locations. There are a few where hand, lower arm or lower leg are banned too.
Thats something that everyone with a little swordsmanship finds a problem. LARP fighting and IRL fighting are two different things. Also the LARPS swords are nowhere to the real ones, you need some practice to accustomed to it

>>14680248

well, there are a few countries where you can't be really picky about larps because there are not so many. You have to play with what you have...

>>14680257
that sucks =(
Can you be a Monk in LARPs?
Beat the crap out of a armored foe with your bare or foam wrapped hands?

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>>14680273

depends on the larp. But most of them don't like the full contact thing so there is a good chance for no

>>14680300
LARPs are sounding rather dumb then
I think I'll stick to Military Paintball

>local LARP event starts today

>my costume is kind of shitty

>Never played before, not sure I would even be that good and I can only half remember most of the rules and taglines

>Girl problems have been driving my motivation down in the dumps for weeks now

I'm getting the fear you guys, should I stick it out and try to make do or should I just say fuck it and sleep away the day?

>>14680273

Not with your REAL fists, but there's certainly claw/fist type weapons that would be perfectly appropriate for a monk. If it passes safety checks, as you can tell it's within reason.

No, the human fist is NOT a larp-safe weapon. We're not actually trying to beat the shit out of each other for real damage, after all.

>>14680306

well, as I said it depends on the larp. In eastern europe you will wind much more larp where there is full contact and things like that
Also paintball can look really dump for guys who play airsoft. So it's always a matter of viewpoint

>>14680229

To give you an idea, Mythodea generally uses a "three hits, you're down" if you're the average unarmored character- and expects you to react to getting stabbed/clubbed/shot appropriately (ie, play like it hurt you git). Armor can extend that somewhat, and you can blow EP on more.

Real-life skill does matter, once you compensate a bit. You won't be able to use it all straight up, but footwork and trained reflexes are always an advantage.

>>14680324
Im in Canada, I wish I could be in Europe
Yes, paintball can look dumb for people who play airsoft, but I play with the Military training teams in the area and have never been called out on it, lol

>>14680318
so sock-em boppers might be appropriate?
picture related

>>14680306
>Military Paintball
>implying speedball isn't the superior paintball format
>implying airsoft isn't the superior simulation format

>>14680315

Do it. What is the worse that can happen?

>>14680318
Somebody said larpsafe?
But joking aside, the problem with fist useing that other guys don' use their fist, they use swords and shit like that. And there is a much bigger chance that you will get some kind of injury in a hand vs sword fight than in a sword vs sword fight.
Of course it can be done without injuries but most of the organizers don't lik the idea of this kind of risks

>>14680342
Speedball - nope
Airsoft - nope
Military Bushpaintball - yep

>>14680205

Sadly, in the US for every good game, it's more like twenty. It's like the kids in the woods with no money just got older and didn't bother trying for better.

>>14680355
>bushball
>not rental/ scrub tier

>>14680315

Go play. Sitting in your house SO RONERY and sleeping away the weekend is just depression fuel.

>>14680397
>dat swor... thing...

>>14680398
>bushball
as in, paintball in the forest
>Military
as in the Canadian Forces put on the compatition for team training and its open to outsiders with their own guns

Best game iv ever had with it, one of the sargents at the base we were playing at told us (the non military personal) to defend the one area from the Forces from moving in.
They flew the Forces into the Starting area on Griffon Helo's to drop them off like a live fire combat zone, shit was intense

>>14680438

This thread makes me want to LARP now.. Damn it all.. I just might have to check one out this summer.

>>14680341

>Im in Canada, I wish I could be in Europe
>>Canada

Look up Biccoline. You have awesome in your country.

Also, for the LARPer who prefers to be an infighter- I always suggest knives and daggers. It's the closest thing to LARPsafe pummeling around, gives you a legit parrying option, and feels damn good if you actually take someone down fair and square.

Of course, you're going to learn why people carry longer weapons in a hurry. That's why knifing people is generally the realm of the assassin or rogue. Killing with close stuff is best done from the angle that doesn't involve them putting a sword through you first.

>>14680451
Yeah, they pawnd us that game, it took them like, Idk 5 mins to get all of us, we had like 30 normal people and 5 Military guys in total they had 20 guys

>>14680466
I cant read french!
I have enough problems with people calling me out on my English Spelling to work on learning another language

Im guessing its in Quebec though if its in french, which is a 10 hour drive

>>14680466
>and feels damn good if you actually take someone down fair and square.
>fair and square
>fair

excuse me but does not compute.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKPBcFkkAXE
is all I have to add

>>14680508

I counter you with awesome!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1PGMoK_aU8

>>14680466
I made a tour with a D&D group session once at Biccoline. The food was tasty. But I don't think I could make a real good character.

>>14680524
I grudgingly accept
no one dose war like the Germans

>>14680503

By "fair and square" I mean "killing them in a legitimate manner according to the rules."

As in not cheating. Generally, slipping quietly behind someone and slipping a knife between their shoulderblades is "fair and square". Or under the table and into their gut when you catch the stinking bastard cheating at dice. Or even palming it proper, then giving them four new orifices when all they expected was a cheery handshake. That kind of "fair and square".

>>14680603

well... the russians does
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDdTB1GzHJw

>>14680607

ohhh... For a second I thought you mean a face-to-face fight. My bad. Carry on.

>>14680494

Yep, Quebec. Though I know they end up with people there from all over Canada, so there you go.

>>14680635

Not at all. As you can see, that is Doing It Wrong.

>>14680663

I see, Sadly I don't have good pics about doing it right. Well maybe If I would have one that wouldn't be right after all...
But take this instead.
This guy was a shopkeeper and has eleven daggers at him

>>14680681

Generally if someone sees you doing it, it's a bad idea. Anyway, more good LARP pics. >>14671796 in much better detail.

>>14680710

When this guy talks, you listen. Or he'll tear out your soul and have a chat with that instead.

"assassins at work"

>>14680724

She'll take care of whatever you left behind. Parts is parts.

"You no take candle, or I split your chest with me axe!"

me loves raw meat

How fresh did you like that raw meat?

>>14680876

we can take care of our food supplies

>>14681026

aaaaand... there goes the image limit

>>14681087

Just as planned, I was getting a mite worn down with all the images I've been throwing around here. The whole lot is now archived on suptg in any case.

>>14679755

Yeah, but you can't actually throw a fireball.

I CAN actually use a spear. It seems asinine to make people spend points on things they can either do or not. If I wanted a character sheet, I'd just be playing D&D like normal.

LARP should be a low-fantasy affair, imo.

>>14681776

Let's put it to you this way. You can't really stab people to death with your LARP spear, either. The point is that you're not playing "you in funny clothes", although some of your skill can translate over. I played a warrior who could shatter solid steel with a swing of his blade, ruin limbs with casual ease, and slaughter trolls with one stroke.

I also played a scholarly little mageling who could toss flame, lightning and ice about with ease, restore life to the dead, and enjoyed turning his sword into a flaming brand of justice.

Operative word in both cases: played. The character's skills in both cases were what mattered most, not my real-life ones.

Some systems get away with any-weapon-you-can-use simply by having no ways to enhance weapon strikes in the game, but nearly anything that's going to make you spend character build on a weapon is.

First your character (not you) learns how to use a spear. Then they learn how to make those blows more telling. Or how to hamstring someone. Maybe the proper technique for a death-blow that fells something that'd normally take dozens of stabs instead of just one. Just like the dinky little apprentice mage learns how to conjure up a light before he masters the fine art of imitating dragon's breath.

>>14681896

Again, if my own abilities are widely irrelevant, I may as well be sitting at a table rolling dice.

>>14681940

The point is systems like that both take your abilities into account but also allow them to be enhanced to superhuman levels- therefore, they require you to have an "entry level" skill to do many things.

Otherwise, the system treats playing a sword-swinging warrior as cheaper to make than a spellcaster- which is imbalanced in a system that the warrior can do extraordinary things above and beyond player skill as well.

Now, if you're talking a system where your fighters deal flat amounts of damage and can't improve it? I'm all for letting anyone use anything they can swing safely. Mythodea and systems like it do that just fine, and that's why magic and alchemy cost exp/build to acquire but weapons use doesn't.

BTW, try the "I can use a spear in real life, put spear proficiency on my character sheet" on your DM some time. I should be able to hear the laughter from here.

>>14682108

Except a piece of paper is not actually me. It's a piece of paper representing a character. When LARPing, *I* am representing a character. By your reasoning, if I successfully disarm my foe, he's not really disarmed, because I didn't take the skill for it. If I hamstring my opponent, he's not really crippled, because I didn't take the skill for it. If I jab the tip of my spear into his chest, it's not fatal because I didn't take the skill for it. There is an obvious disconnect between the actual fighting and the outcome of the battle.

With this xp system in place, someone who is actually just good at it can be trounced easily by someone who's simply been there longer because he hasn't bought the required feats or skills to do what he actually just DID.

This is why it needs to be low fantasy, because trying to reconcile actual, physical conflict with imaginary lightning bolts just doesn't work.