>>14775832
4chan is eating my posts every so often. This is going to be fun.

Your entire team is currently mounted up and launched, but luckily you hadn't gotten close enough to the colony to get caught in any of the blast. You still have laser comm contact with the allied vessels. All of which have begun maximum minovsky particle emission in order to keep themselves safe from radiation.
Whilst the colony exterior did have a fairly heavy density of Minovsky Particles, the interior was largely particle free, which makes exploring the interior a significant radiation hazard without Minovsky emission gear or radiation shielding of some kind.

None of the allied vessels seem to know how this just happened either. You also have lost contact with the unmounted scouts you sent to the colony.

YOUR ORDERS?

Well, looks like the scouts have been lost. No one could have survived that blast it would seem. From what I remember, both Char and White Base made it out somewhat safely, so does that mean that they're both potentially hanging around in the nearby area?

>>14775864
The entire team is to go and attack the White Base, but first we need to know where it is.
See if Nell can send her bits out first, and locate it, then lascomm the position to us.

Also, ask the ships if those two Dom suits are in any shape to try to find the scouts in case they survived.

>>14775920
Not necessarily.
Since the scouts were supposed to be trying to get the comm array back online, they would have been somewhere in the superstructure of the colony. It's possible that they could have survived the nuclear explosion.

Do we carry nukes on any of the vessels?

If yes, why not use the incidence to mask a continued nuclear bombardment of the place?

If not, stand ready to intercept enemy forces/assist friendlies at the first sign of them leaving the wreck of the colony.

>>14775945

I don't see how that would help... The Colony is already empty.

>>14775937

Without heavy radiation shielding however, the odds aren't looking good for them. I'm not sure how space suits work in the UC era, but I would imagine that they have the same capabilities for keeping out solar radiation that current space suits do.

>>14775973
Hence the need for the Dom pilots to see if their suits are in any condition to be flown and if they can be fitted with heavy radiation shielding or Minovsky emission equipment.

>>14775945
>Do we carry nukes on any of the vessels?

No. In fact that's illeagal under the Antarctica Treaty.

>>14775923
Since this is the only course of action suggested thus far, can we go with this?

We're limited on time today, so let's not waste any of it.

Alright, so basically, have the Dom pilots check out the superstructure to see if they can find the scout teams. Meanwhile, Nachtmaren goes all out in trying to destroy the White Base.

Send some of nell bits to the nearest debris field where the white base might be hiding

>>14776087
>>14776045
Both covered by >>14775923
I suppose this is the best approximation of consensus you'll get, Apologised.

>See if Nell can send her bits out first, and locate it, then lascomm the position to us.

You ask Nell if she can navigate the debris to find the enemy targets.
"That will be difficult, I have a hard time navigating through non-man-made obstacle fields. Especially if they're moving about like this. If I were to try I'd probably lose even more bits."

>Also, ask the ships if those two Dom suits are in any shape to try to find the scouts in case they survived.

Both Rick-Doms are still badly damaged, their repairs have been slowed as their mothership the Chivvay is undergoing repairs from earlier fighting. It doesn't help that this class of vessel doesn't have the best hanger facilities to begin with.

With regards to minovsky emitters, the EWAC pack that Calvin used had a low strength emitter built into it. Not as powerful as that built into a starship obviously, but still.

>>14776116
Are the repairs to Zolomon and Elaine finished? If so, I suggest that the Rick-Doms come over to the Outer Heaven, since our hangar would be available.
If they don't have Minovsky emitter equipment of their own, have one of them mount Calvin's old EWACs module, or pilot his suit to try to find any survivors.

As for Nell, if she can't get into the debris field, have her instead set up a picket line around the area to try to detect anyone trying to leave.

Nachtmaren to go in and try to get confirmation that the White Base was destroyed.

Any one else seconding?

>>14776176
>Are the repairs to Zolomon and Elaine finished?

Aside from the lost shield, both Elaine and Zolomon were laregly undamaged. Elaine has been fully reloaded, although you will need to restock with shells for that gatling sooner rather than later don't forget.

The Rick Doms are still unrepaired and non-flight capable.

>As for Nell, if she can't get into the debris field, have her instead set up a picket line around the area to try to detect anyone trying to leave

Sure.

Gotta go get my dinner BRB.

>>14776246
I want to bring the full force of the Nachtmaren team up against the White Base, but doing so could doom the scouts to death.
Since the two Rick-Doms are still too damaged to be deployed, I think we should offer up Calvin's old EWACs Gyan to one of those pilots to try to find the missing scouts, while the rest of the Nachtmaren push into the debris field to locate evidence of the White Base's destruction or survival.

This should allow us to find and attack the White Base, while not abandoning any of the scouts. We couldn't send in any others quickly to search for them anyway, since they would have to be mounted with heavy radiation shielding.

>>14776317
Oh, and have Nell set up that perimeter with her bits.

Hmm...the Outer Heaven has Minovsky emitter systems and some radiation shielding, right? Should we send them in to try to assist any possible surviving scouts? Or only after confirmation by whoever pilots Calvin's Gyan that there's someone still alive?

Oh, don't forget to have Zolomon pick up a GM shield before we leave.

>>14776429
>>14776317

I'm back.

Nell reports that she'll begin setting up a perimeter with her bits.
She reports no signs of activity as of yet.

Calvins old Gyan is currently being used by Option after having it's EWAC package removed.

>Oh, don't forget to have Zolomon pick up a GM shield before we leave.

Sure.

>the Outer Heaven has Minovsky emitter systems and some radiation shielding, right?

It possesses a minovsky particle emitter, although it doesn't have much in the way of conventional radiation shielding as that would increase it's mass to excessive levels. But this is normal for Zeon warships. Older Federation ships by contrast were designed with some level of redundant radiation shielding.

>>14776947
Can the EWACs package be mounted on a Rick-Dom?
Otherwise, I think it best if Option were to go and have the EWACs re-installed on his Gyan and have him go searching for survivors.

And there's no way that the damaged Rick-Doms can't be transferred to the Outer Heaven for repairs? I think we have better hangar facilities than the Chivvay.

>>14776947
>Calvins old Gyan is currently being used by Option after having it's EWAC package removed.
I can't believe I forgot this, even though I was on the side of having it done.
Anyway, go with this: >>14776983
And let's get the rest of the team to start looking for the White Base. Or Char.

>>14776983
>Can the EWACs package be mounted on a Rick-Dom?

Yes. That's originally what it was mounted on. But as I have REPEATEDLY stated bo...
>And there's no way that the damaged Rick-Doms can't be transferred to the Outer Heaven for repairs? I think we have better hangar facilities than the Chivvay.

Ah. Yes, that's possible but the transfer would take some time. 20 minutes at the least. Actual repair work might be difficult as you'd have to replace with UMP parts anything that needs replacing. So you'd end up with a kitbash style MS similar to what Elaine and Jolyne are piloting.

>>14777037
That's 20 minutes too long. I think it would be better then to have Option go back to the Outer Heaven and get the EWACs package re-installed, and have him begin looking through the surviving colony superstructure for any surviving scouts.

>>14777037
Alright then. It would better to have Option get that EWAC package mounted on his Gyan again, and look for survivors.

Also, lascomm the Chivvay, and get a time estimate for repairs on those Rick-Doms. Off the Outer Heaven's hangars for their use, in case it would actually be faster that way.

As for the rest of the team, let's search that debris field for the White Base. We've got us a Trojan Horse to sink.

>>14777056

Okay, and what do the rest of you want to do. Keeping in mind that the closer you get to the colony interior (or where the colony interior used to be) the higher the radiation hazard will be. Also, radiation formation isn't going to be a predictable granular escalation either due to how minovsky particles work. You will basically punch through a wall of minovskies and get your nads irradiated by full bore post-nuke radiation.
Of course with all of the minovsky particles currently flitting about out here in the aftermath of the earlier nuclear combat at the start of the war you're pretty safe as long as you don't get too close, but the internal debris field is going to be a minefield of microwave related doom.

Oh, and if that wasn't enough, the colony is still in the process of shearing apart as one end rotates one way and the other in a different one. So, yet more flying debris there.

YOUR ORDERS?

>>14777133
Option in the Gyan with the EWACs package is the only one that could survive that kind of radiation without some heavy shielding.
Have Option install the EWAC package and start trying to find the missing scouts, beginning with their last known position inside the colony's superstructure. Have him enter via the docks.

As for the rest of the team, judging by where the White Base was when we last saw it, come with a probable location in the debris field of where it would be if it had been ejected from the colony by the blast. That's where the rest of the team will fly towards.

As for the Outer Heaven, have it offer its hangar bays for Rick-Dom repairs, if the repair time on the Chivvay would take longer than the transfer time.

>>14777239
Alright, I see no nays, so I guess everyone implicitly agrees.

>>14777239

Seconding to get the ball rolling.

>>14777239

You make the offer to cover the repairs of the Rick Doms whilst their Chivvay repairs itself. The crew of the Heavy Cruiser are only too happy to oblige. They're still trying to figure out what's going on. At this point you aren't really sure if it's an accident or a federation nuclear strike.

You have Option take Calvins old EWAC package and use it's minovsky emitter as a shield against any possible radiation damage. You then tell him to carefully check both ends of the colony and try and see if any of the scout teams survived.

You meanwhile have a mind to try and take advantage of the situation. If the Trojan Horse was inside the colony when the blast hit, at the very least she'll have taken heavy damage. If she's still mobile she's going to have to try and escape at best speed. If you base it on the last location you saw her at you have a decent sized area to cover if they try to escape.

Assuming of course that they didn't do something odd like double back. But if there's any movement from the Docks, you have Nell watching both ends like a hawk for any movement.

You have your team move on.

"What the hell do you thinks going on boss?" Zolomon asks you.

"I haven't a clue, but if there's a chance that we could take out or better yet capture the Trojan Horse, I'm going to take it."

Neither of you want to even suggest that the White Devil itself might have gotten taken out by the blast, it almost seems like too much to hope for.

>>14777506
>White Devil itself might have gotten taken out by the blast
We can still dream, can't we?

Anyway, keep everyone's heads on a swivel, we've got a lot of ground to cover, and the White Base won't be disoriented for long.

>>14777506
I got nothing until we find something. Just waiting for that.

>>14777506

You set up a distant patrol perimeter. All of you have your Geiger counters active, and this far out there SHOULDN'T be that much in the way of harmful radiation. Below you small explosions of metal and dust radiate outwards as the colony continues it's slow motion deconstruction.

You get an update from the Outer Heaven. They say that they've received the damage Rick-Doms, but they're going to need more extensive work than first appeared. Ookawara is saying 30 minutes more at least. He's amazed that the pilots both survived.

A little later you get a relayed message from Option.

"I've checked the Top. I can get any signal from the scouts, and I can't see any trace of them. The whole area is slowly falling apart though. I'd be amazed if anything can live through this. I'll skirt the worst of the radiation and try the Bottom docks. On the plus side there's no sign of the enemy either. It doesn't look like they doubled back to the docks."

You continue your patrols.

>>14777677
I have to skip out for a bit. Don't you guys fuck this up.

>>14777749

No worries. We will.

More time passes.

There's no sign of the enemy. But Nell and the ships confirm they haven't escaped in any other direction.

"What do you think boss? You think the blast got them?" Zolomon asks.

"I don't think we can assume that. They're either in there damaged and can't move. Or they don't have the force to punch their way through and they're trying to find a weakspot in our cover. They can't put out scouts beyond their Minovsky particle field so they're ability to explore and probe our defences are limited. They also have got know time isn't on their side."

"So, what are we going to do boss?"

You're about to give your answer when Option reports in from the bottom section of the Colony.

"I've entered the docks. There's heavy damage here as well, but not as bad as on the top. I've found the Falmels Kommusai, and two of our scout team managed to make it inside. They've rigged the minovsky particle emitted for the reactor to protect them from the worst of the radiation. But it means keeping the onboard reactor deactivated. That means they've got no power. The ship is pinned down by some debris... but I think I can cut through that. The main problem is I can't lift this thing all by myself. Can anyone assist?"

YOUR ORDERS?

>>14777987
Send Rance. They seem to be a good team

>>14778007
Option would have to backtrack and pick up Rance, since Rance isn't emitting M-Particles of his own.

>>14778045
Better than doing anything risky. For once, we have time. The other patrols could make good use of the time by finding the weaker parts of the colony shell that WB would be more likely to try to break through.

>>14777987
Send a couple Rick-dom's with anti-rad stuff, their plot armor isn't strong enough to capture the white base or stop it if it tries to break through, but they can still save people.

NOTE:

If we find the White Base, best course of action might not be to attack it outright.

Best course of action may be to surround it, guns pointed, and ask, "WHAT DID YOU DO!?" In regards to the nuclear explosion. We don't know what caused it, we can assume they did. They didn't though. But us asking will make them think we don't either. That will help keep things calm in the aftermath. They might send a report in to Earth, "Uh, well, the Zeon forces seemed to be just as surprised as we were."

Of course, they'll be our prisoners by then.

something that doesn't decrease the odds of us capturing the white base, or if it does so, does it minimally. All else fails, tell them to sit tight. How long can the anti-rad minovsky thing last? if it lasts a day, we wait a day.

Have nell keep scouting with the bits to find the White Base.

After a bit, we should proooobably try to broadcast something that says:

"Look, half of you are probably going to die of radiation sickness- we don't know whether you tried to nuke us or not and we don't care. We've got medical facilities and the sooner you turn yourselves over the sooner we can run back to good quality medical facilities for us all.

"By the by, DID you nuke us?"

Also bangin' new portrait of the white base, Apologised.

Yeah, try to reason with them, we've all been nuked, we've got the superior forces, we kind of will wait them out, and we're all very confused and a little irradiated right now.

except for Elaine, she's fine with all this so far.

>>14778101

Whilst the Rick-Dom DOES posses a slightly higher level of radiation shielding than most other Mobile Suits, it's not heavy enough to protect them from very high levels of radiation.

That said, by sticking to the edges of the debris field and spending as little amount of time outside of the minovsky bubble as possible then it should minimise contact. There is still a chance of encountering a fatal radiation "shelf" between two minovsky lattice formations, but the the bottom end of the colony is thick radiation SHOULD be minimal.

>>14778160

Do remember that with all the radiation about, people are flinging minovsky particles about like nobodies business, radio isn't going to work.
If White Base is alive then they're going to have the minovsky generator going full whack. Now, it's never been tested how long they can keep that going, but given that Federation Minovsky technology on these new cruisers it at least one generation more advanced than yours then it seems fair to assume this amount can be measured in weeks. Food storage would be more of a concern.

Convincing people to go outside to repair external damage however is going to be tricky. Nobody wants to go outside of the ship in just an eva suit when there's radiation about.

>>14778449
Welp.

Looks like we just keep scouting with bits then. we've cle-

Wait. How much force can a bit generate? could those be used to help Option? And what's a list of our EWACs/rad-safe mobile suits/armors our little fleet force has?

Anyways, when Nells bits are done with scouting the colony, go scout other high-rad places that people can't go.

>>14778449
Well. . . ask the Rick-Dom pilots if they'll volunteer. We can't make them go rightly in our hearts because we ourselves won't go because we're looking to capture the white base if at all possible. I mean, we gotta find out what was going on here.

Ask for rick-dom pilots who volunteer to help Option out to save the lives of the scouts still in the danger zone.

After that, just. . . keep on scouting. Eventually we're going to find the motherfuckers.

>>14778488

It's a good idea, and excellent one. But the problem is Nell isn't the type of newtype who can navigate all that easily through a constantly shifting truly random debris field. Other Elmeth Piolts might be capable of this, but Nell is better when dealing with things of human design. Nevertheless, she can help escort Option, however she won't be able to help lift the Kommusai. Those bit's engines aren't quite that high powered. Plus it's never been tested.

>>14778519
You ask the Rick Dom's if they'd be willing to risk a little bit of radiation. They seem hesitant and ask if it's really impossible for Option and his mobile emitter to come and escort them to and from the danger zone.

>>14778756
Is there some sort of inoculation we can give them? Also, inform them that time is of the essence, and that the survivors may be out of power and/or injured. Also, that these guys were willing to scout, even though they didn't know they were going to get hit by a nuclear explosion. Leave no brother behind. Yada Yada.

I dunno.

>>14778488
As I recall, the EWAC package that Calvin had was a custom job; it's unique, and so only Option has it.
We could put some heavy rad shielding on the two Rick-Doms that are undergoing repairs, but it'll still take half an hour to an hour to do it.
Other than that, only the cruisers themselves are shielded or have the Minovsky emitters to survive the high radiation levels in the interior of the colony.

I think that we should ask Ookawara to add heavy radiation shielding to the Rick-Doms as he repairs them.
Tell Option to sit tight; we're shielding some suits so that they can go down there and assist him.

As for the rest of the team, keep up patrols to find the White Base.

>>14777987
Unless Option says that the Kommusai's Minovsky emitter is going to fail within the next hour, I think shielding the Rick-Doms and having them go to assist Option is the safest choice.

>>14778756
If Option's EWAC package can produce enough Minovsky particles to protect both himself and the Rick-Doms, I think it we should have Option pull back, and protect the Rick-Doms as they go in and free the Kommusai.

Rest of the team continues looking for the White Base.

. . . Wait, his EWAC is large enough to do that? Then shit yes, do that.

>>14778756
In the interest of moving this along, let's have Option come back and escort the Rick-Doms within his Minovsky field, with one of Nell's bits tagging along for extra protection.

Rest of the team continues looking for the White Base.

>>14778932

You order Option to go back and get the two Rick Dom pilots so they can safely evacuate the trapped scouts. Meanwhile you continue to search for the White Base. Still no sign. If they survived they must be deep within the debris field. Probably within one of the more concentrated radiation zones. Especially if they have a minovsky field emitter that can sustain it. That deep, it;s unlikely even the large emitters of your capital ships could keep you properly shielded. Of course that might not necessarily be a location of choice, the colony is still splintering apart as you watch, debris has got to be a major concern.

>>14779045
Have Nell maintain her perimeter around the debris field. Eventually the White Base will need to leave, and we'll be waiting for them.

Option continues with trying to rescue the scouts.

The rest of the team continues patrols just in case they get lucky, but otherwise stay in lascomm range of Nell and the Outer Heaven to get updates and receive alerts if Nell spots the White Base.

>>14779045
Alright. Their only option is to try and wait us out then?

Send a runner out and broadcast on a private frequency that we've got White Base and the gundam and Char at texas Colony. There's been an accident somewhere on the colony and it's now unstable. We need large minovsky field generating craft and scout craft to search the debris for survivors. We need to get this message to Kycillia, I think Char is attached to her. Say that we haven't found Lt. Char yet either.

>>14779176
Seconded.
Question though, are the ships in position to see if something tries to sneak out of the debris field? We don't want to let them get away from right under our noses.

>>14779176

Okay. Done.

How long are you guys willing to wait for the White Base to show itself?
You've been at it for about 40 - 45 minutes now.

>>14779176
Let's not ask for a battlefleet, but seriously, Char is a big resource for Zeon. They can spare a squad of EWAC'd or otherwise rad-proof MS's or battlefield recovery craft.

How does Zeon usually check their battlefields for survivors? What did they do after battles during the One Week War when we were nuking and gassing stuff left right and center to find our dudes?

>>14779221
Slap an MIA next to their name and move on is usually standard procedure.

>>14779218
Let's wait for an hour before we return back to the Outer Heaven. We'll stay on alert, but otherwise wait for the scouts to get rescued and for the Chivvay to finish its repairs.

>>14779218
I say go for about an hour. If we don't see anything by then, let's get back to OH and then set up shifts, starting with whoever volunteers/feeling up to staying in their mobile suite for a little while longer. We don't want anyone falling asleep if we're gonna try the waiting game.
>>14779221
Yeah, though is it possible to get some EWACs for ourselves too? Modding the suits may take a while, but if we're having a standoff....

>>14779218
Hey, do whatever we can. Establish shifts for people to search. How much food do we have on all the ships, and how much personnel in our little mini-fleet? We've got a lot of ships to their one carrier, we have commissaries on these ships, right? Let's relax and enjoy the down-time when we're not on search/perimeter duty.

What's our list of "Able-To-Scout-Irradiated-Areas" craft, or ships? Could the Outer Haven with its minovsky field generator search?

We're an independent unit and only a few ships and we're locking down the gundam and white base, a major asset to the feddies. I think it's worth while to find the white base and catch it.

. . . Oh. And if at all possible, after Option and the Rick-Dom's rescue the dudes, can they look for Char, too? Or get a confirmed KIA on him or his suit? He's rather important to the Zeon war effort, to say the least.

>>14779283
>white base, a major asset to the feddies

*Snort* BWAHAHAHAHA!

>>14779283
Having the OH search the debris field is probably very dangerous, what with everything shifting and that the heaviest radiation would still hurt it.
But the idea is a good one, let's take stock of what we have.

>>14779304
. . . It's a Trojan Horse? Those are kind of a big deal. Not to mention having someone Mauser-tier, who can kill an MS with the wing of our ship, piloting it. As well as the trouble they've caused. And being host, of course, to the gundam. Which it's almost too much to hope for that it ISN'T dead.

. . .

How much food is inside an MS? Like, say, the gundam?

>>14779283
Man, you're not reading.
Neither of the two cruisers or the Outer Heaven have extensive radiation shielding or strong Minovsky emission equipment.

The EWAC package on Option's Gyan is the only mobile emitter we have that smaller than cruiser size that can be used to create a field to protect against radiation.

>>14779336
Thanks for the positive feedback.

Fine then, when possible, Option and an escort for him scout. Other than that we sit tight and take stock of options and picket in shifts and repair our suits and ships. Take stock of things.

>>14779340
Are you forgetting the part about how the Federation currently has fully operational manufacturing blocks to churn out new Pegasus-class assault carriers?
That the White Base is but 1 amongst nearly a dozen in current operation?
Also, the Federation has other Gundams besides the RX-78.

>>14779404
Maybe Amuro will end up with the Perfect Gundam after this. It'd be cool.

>>14779404
While that is true, I think the point they're trying to make is that the experienced crew and pilots, as they have been flying the White Base and Gundam for the longest period, is still a valuable target.

>>14779404
Not many others, actually.
Pixy's are gone.
Heavy is gone.
4 & 5 are gone.
Mudrock is gone.
We shot one kind piloted by some guy in Jaburo.
BD-1 and BD-3 are gone.
We took out a ridonk amount of them in Canada.

And. . . well, let's not talk about Gundam Alex or whatever is being built IN PLACE OF Alex, right now. . .
;_;

>>14779340
Do you realize you're falling into the trap that Revil set, and that Apologised put into the omake last session? As well as the exact same trap that we've been trying to avoid since the very beginning?

. . . Alright, so we're picketing? I guess we're picketing and waiting for reinforcing EWAC-able scout units.

Can we get some omakes? Possibly on how Bernie is doing?!

>>14779462
You do realize that White Base and Amuro did an astounding amount of work in the One Year War and that if we can get Amuro neutralized and Char out alive, it'll be a coup for Zeon?

>>14779218
Apologised, we've got 2 posts both calling for one hour. Let's go forward with that. Have the Nachtmaren take breaks in shifts, and take stock of whatever resources we have in this little battlegroup of ours.

>>14779501
Yeah, one hour timeskip is good as anything else.

>>14779501
Agreed, let's get the ball rolling at least.
Oh, as for the argument: We should try to avoid falling into the trap in the future, (we can fluff it as not wanting to repeat side 4) BUT White Base is kinda a big deal.

>>14779500
Yes, Amuro and the White Base did a lot to keep Zeon's attention during the OYW, both in the canon timeline and in this timeline.
But that's no excuse to plunge blindly forward into a high-radiation debris field with a cruiser that will be hard pressed to handle the radiation.
It's also no excuse to put undue importance upon it at the cost of other, more important strategic concerns.

>>14779457
They have at least 3 Heavy and 1 FA in canon. And one of the Core Fighters survived from the 78-4 and 78-5, so if they have a replacement core top and core bottom it's fine. Yuu survived the BD's destruction, and he's more dangerous then the MS. Fucker survived helping push back Axis. The G3 is still out there, and knowing it, it's going to show up as either the FA-78-2 or the Perfect Gundam II. And the 78-2 is out of date by now, they've got Mass Produced GMs that preform better then that thing.

>>14779518
>>14779501
>>14779533

You opt to wait for an hour. No sign of the enemy, but Option arrives to pick up his rescue team.

The colony continues to deteriorate. According to best estimates, the colony probably has about two more hours before the top and bottom completely seperate and begin slightly different orbital patterns. It's going to create a bit of a traffic hazard since one end might end up leaving the legrange zone.

In fact it's possible it might drop onto the earth. Although it wont do nearly as much damage as Operation British will, that thing was going at serious speed when it hit. Alternatively it could hit the moon. Which would cause even less damage. Unless it hit a city, but the odds of that are so astronomically high, if it happens then clearly god wanted them all to die.

Much like Sydney.

Some more time passes. Eventually you get word from your rescue team that they've reached the docks. The kommusai itself has become unsalvagable due to debris damage. But luckily it looks like the scouts have survived. They report that they were able to pull the Kommusai's Hard Drive, and with a bit of luck it will still be legible.

>>14779685
oh hey, sweet, gubbins. what should be on the Kommusai's hard drive?

>>14779685
Bring the scouts back, make sure those fuckers get the Zeonic Medal of Walking into a Nuclear Blast or the closest thing, and then debrief them.

See if we can find Captain Char.

>>14779685
Have the rescue team pull the survivors and the hard drive out in the best way they see fit.
I'm thinking either cut the kommusai out, so that the survivors can stay protected by the craft's repurposed Minovsky emitter, or by doubling up in the Rick-Dom cockpits.

Do we have enough demo charges to destroy what remains of the colony?
I have two reasons for this:
1. eliminate a potential traffic hazard before it becomes one.
2. create even more debris and potentially flush out the White Base.

>>Much like Sydney.
Eh, the gundam universe is just scared of our wildlife. Melbourne is superior anyways.

>>14779685
Okay, well let's get the survivors back and debriefed, then we should probably figure something out about those colony halves. Don't know if we can break them down or even stop them.
And we should set up the first scout patrol of the suit with the EWAC and one/two escorts. If Option wants to, we can rotate pilots so he doesn't have to go on every patrol.
First target should be the other side of the colony, b/c maybe WB was heading out the other side when the nuke went off. Oh, and I guess we should keep an eye out for Char as well.

>>14779764

You do not have anywhere near enough demo to destroy a giant 0.5 megameter o-neil cylinder no.

Nothing you could do to it at this point is likely to destroy it any better than the number that the laws of physics are doing on it's ass anyhow.

>>14779775
Honestly, the sheer mind boggling odds of the largest piece of that colony managing to not only hit land, but Sydney? And not just like clip it and hit on the outskirts or anything DIRECTLY on top of Sydney Opera house? That's the point where it goes from war-crime to act of god. I mean the point where it turned to shrapnel over the arab peninsular is where everything became a giant turkey shoot. I'm sort of terrified as to just what the consequences would have been had the thing actually managed to stay on course and in one piece.

South America would suddenly find itself replaced with a hole that leads straight to satan himself I would imagine.

>>14779762

The crew return for debriefing, but now you have the thorny issue of trying to find Captain Char. Your fairly certain he was heading in the direction of the bottom dock, but according to Options reports that place is a disintegrating maze of collapsing tunnels and death. If anyone can survive that though, it's Captain Char.

If.

Lister's Big List of Things To Do:
* Cause nuclear explosion of the week (check?)
* Still alive (Check)
* Make Garma Awesome (CHECK)
* Eat Rock Candy While Gihren Gives Speech ( )
* Look For Char ( )
* Picket Debris (Checkish)
* Mention Deer to Elaine ( )
* Search for White Base ( Checkish)
* Be Awesome (Check)

>>14779860
Is it possible we can somehow naked newtype space him? Or have Nell send out a newtype rescue signal or something?

>>14779860
There's really not much we can do for Char at this point.
Any suit that we send in will be in danger of getting trapped themselves. The safe thing to do would be to wait for a salvage/rescue ship from Pezun to arrive.

If we want to be a little more helpful, I suppose we should send Option, or David in Option's Gyan, to check the lower dock.

>>14779929
Nonononononono. If he finds Char without dieing, he'll just automatically become a wingman with WB and the Gundam nearby.

>>14779942
Hey, that's just a myth.
David in the Minovsky-protected Gyan should be able to search the lower dock for Char. It'll make it look like we at least tried to save him.

>>14779929
>>14779967
Thirded, David in Option's Gyan to look for Char.

So Gryps is at Side 7, right? That's where the Loyalist Zeon is building themselves some totally-not-space-lasers, right? Didn't feddies have to go /past/ gryps to hit the side 4 colony cluster?

Another 20 minutes pass.

Eventually you get a call from the Outer Heaven. It's on a secure band from Anita.

"Sir, we need you to come back in and look something."

"What?"

"I don't know for certain, the Captain wont tell me. He says to keep the rest of the squad on patrol. But that this is important."

Intrigued and a little worried, you tell the rest of the team to keep a sharp eye out for any enemy movement, and that you've been called to check something out back on the ship.

The journey doesn't take too long, but you are curious as to what it was they must have found on that Kommusai's hard drive...

When you arrive, Mouser meets you at the Hanger. His face doesn't betray anything, which is in itself a worry.

"Quickly, come with me." He asks you. You comply, now becoming increasingly paranoid. You surreptitiously check your sidearm.

Once he leads you into the Captains Ready Room, you can see Ookawara and Sara, one of Nell's handlers. All look grim.

>>14780163
Not 100% sure on how space travel and routes work in the Gundam U, but they could probably cut in between side 7 and the Earth or closer to Earth, seeing as they own the darn thing.

>>14780390
This doesn't look good...Did Char drop the ball and leave data on the Kommusai implicating the Legitimacy in that nuclear initiation?

>>14780390
"What's the big secret deal then?" You ask.

We checked the Kommusai's Hard Drive. There was a security locked partition set aside. The encryption was of a type segregated to the Flanagan institute. This made sense as they were carrying Dr Flanagan himself as well as a newtype test subject.

Now usually a military ship wouldn't have the ciphers aboard to crack that. However, since we were carrying Nell and her support team we happened to have those ciphers aboard.

We found this.

A detailed comminque about the real nature of the secondary cargo the ship was carrying alongside Char's kitbashed gundam. A nuclear device in the Mid-Kiloton range to be used to finish off the Gundam once and for all, stolen from A-Boa-Qu. A massive, clear and deliberate breach of the Antarctica Treaty. Co-signed off by Dr Flanagan and Admiral Kycillia Zabi. The report also makes it clear that Degwin was in on it as well.

"We believe Flanagan kept this on the hard-drive with the intention of blackmailing Kycillia with it should he ever need to. It was his insurance." Ookawara states.

"So. What do we do with this?" Mauser asks.

TO BE CONTINUED

>>14780471
Headdesk repeatedly.
So. What do we lose if we shoot the hard drive and shoot Dr. Flanagan?

>>14780471
hmmm...
Hmmmmmm...
HMMMMMMMMMM...
Well, the cat's out of the bag now.

Wait, there was a zeonquest today?

oh boy, cant wait to see what stupid shit was done or forced on us this time.

>>14780471
Use it as insurance to keep Kycilla on our side? Create a New Neo-Zeon? Get Char to shoot her in the head with a bazooka?

Also, Apologized. We can have an update on Bernie?

>>14780471
And now we in-canon know that Kycillia is a douchenozzle.

Stick with Dozle and Garma. Be mistrustful of Char.

. . . WELL. If anyone in the military was reading this thread, what would you do in this situation? What's the proper thing to do in these circumstances?

>>14780510
Well, it pretty much amounted to saving two scouts that managed to get to the Komusai and put up Minoski particles.
Then, us not wanting to jump right in to the after-effect of a nuclear explosion, we scouted around hoping the White Base would make a move.

>>14780471
GODDAMNIT!

Great, if we cover this up, we're going to be guilty of abetting a war-crime.
If we don't, then the Legitimacy and Zeon get fucked.

>>14780510
Yes, it was said in Friday's thread that there would be one today.

WE'VE SEEN THE DATA

NOW WE'RE COMPLICIT

We can't release the data; if we do, then Zeon is finished.
If we keep it secret, we could use it as leverage to have Degwin and Kycilla step down from power post-war.

Maybe we can release the information in a hundred years, but right now, it would be disastrous.

So. . . what the hell. If we're good people, we simply bring this to light. Char, Degwin Zabi, Kycillia Zabi, and Flanagan go down. Garma and Dozle Zabi are left under the "Hasn't committed war-crimes" leaders of Zeon.

If we bring this to light, we may even cause ANOTHER civil war.

And we're probably going to get assassins after us. And our team. And of course we stop getting lovely toys from Pezun. And Char is going to hate us and try to kill us, probably.

Fuck. Fucking fuck the fuck fuck fuck.

If we hide this up, we're complicit in war crimes. Also, we're morally bad people. I WISH I HAD A MILITARY PERSON IN THE THREAD TO SAY WHAT TO DO WHEN YOUR SUPERIORS COMMIT WAR CRIMES LIKE THIS SHIT.

I wish we could talk to garma and see what he'd say about this. Or Dozle.

I wish Bernie was here.

4chan ate that post four, maybe five times. Jeeeesus.

--OMAKE--

With the rotational psuedo-gravity disabled, dirt and dust and ice particles collected and swirled. The pine tree was dead, tiny ice crystals danced upon it's form. Uprooted in the initial blast it would have died regardless of the vacuum, or the radiation. Pulled by collisions with microparticles of soft dirt and small stone, it gave the impression of wind where no wind would ever blow.
The tree began to shift unnaturally. If such a term could be used to describe the current circumstances.

The Solomon Express package was originally designed for a total-war scenario assault on Solomon. In case of the Antarctica treaty being thrown out once things got desperate enough. Although that scenario never materialised, much of the original design was still good and so the components were machined for the RX-78-2 to use.
Whilst the long range Nuclear Bazooka was never incorporated into the design (although the majority of it would find use later on as part of the [classified] ) many of the other parts were. Including heavy secondary radiation shielding in the case of close range nuclear exposure. The suit was designed with reactive layers as well as heavy minovsky particle cages designed to keep the pilot on the complicated electronics of the suit fully active.

It was theorised that with the extra armour, the Gundam could survive glancing hits from even Nuclear weapons within the 250kt range.

The tree was boldly uprooted yet again, and surrounded by a corona of dust and ice, the Gundam rose again. Ahead of him loomed the bottom docks. One door remained open, jammed most probably by the EMP blast hitting whilst it was in the middle of closing.

"Char!" Amuro roared as he charged towards it.

>>14780689

And Amuro's still alive. It was all for nothing. Fuck it, give up, turn the information over. We lose.

If you discover a war crime in the military, it is your duty to pass it up to your superior, with a report about how very concerned you are for the content, and hope that he does the RIGHT THING, and you will support whatever means he takes to MAKE THINGS RIGHT.

Essentially, pass up the blame to your boss. You did what you were expected to, and it's on him to make the decision. If he doesn't reveal it, and it does go public, you can curse him out for being a coward for not disclosing the things you sent to him.

>>14780746
So, in this case, we're supposed to somehow try to get this information to Garma, since he's our CO?

>>14780746
But... We are outside the command structure aren't we? Isn't that the reason why we didn't get demoted when that one Gundam blew everything to hell?
The Nachtmaren answers to Garma Zabi and Garma Zabi alone. There -is- no chain of command for us.

Fuck it then, we give the information to Dozle and wash our hands and scrub our brains of this. Urgh.

"Dozle. I remember you refereeing a contest once between warriors, a contest taken in the best of times- a basketball game between the Black Tri-Stars and the Nachtmaren Team. I must ask you to stand in judgement of the actions other than yourself once more. I do not know what to say, only this:

"What would Garma do?

Sir David Lister, Knight of Zeon, Assorted Honors. . ."

>>fingofa reason

>>14780825
>>14780818

I thought we had the choice to put ourselves under command of Kycillia or not, and we chose to put ourselves under command of Dozle. It happened around thread 92 or 93 I believe.

>>14780825
Well then, this is a real pickle. And to top it all off, Amuro is still alive.

Let that be a warning to those posters who are so fervent that we take down Amuro and even gundams in general. They broke the Antarctica Treaty for the sake of taking down one fucking mobile suit and they couldn't even fucking do it.
Fuck Char, fuck Degwin, fuck Kycila, fuck Zeon.

>/tg/ thinks they can take down Amuro motherfucking Ray
>Laughing Newtypes.png

How the hell did this quest get 103 threads.

>>14780917
Interest.

I vote we send a copy to dozle and hand a copy to Garma. Their choice to make it public or not immediately. But we make it public after the war.

We make this public, and everyone's just going to start genociding each other with nukes and biological and chemical weapons. Again. I say we turn it in after the war if no one else does anything about it.

. . . I want to smack Kycillia though. And Flanagan. And Char. And Degwin. Just line'em all up, put my hand out, and run down the line.

irepay postulats

>>14780683
>I wish Bernie was here.

Yeah, but then he'd be in the same shit that your in.

--OMAKE--

"So where did you say you were from? Australia?"

For half a second Bernie was tempted to just go with the flow, this sort of clandestine job had never really been his specialty, that sort of thing was usually left to David and Zolomon. But on a half remembered memory he decided against that course of action.

"Does my accent sound that wierd? I'm from Canada."

"Isn't it actually sunnier than people think up there?"

"Not since the colony dropped."

That effectively nukes the conversation. Hopefully Garcia has figured out where the Gundam is by now...

Bernie wasn't entirely sure how he was finding the whole operation to be honest. Getting Al to help him with his recon had been a bit of a low blow if he was honest, but the kid had been eager to help, plus he wasn't likely to get into quite as much trouble if he got caught as Bernie was.

IE, he wasn't likely to get shot.

Then there was Chris. Which was a subject he wasn't going to think about right now.

Since when did espionage ops become soap opera's? Hopefully they'd stop asking questions when Misha began his attack run...

>>14780965
:D

He's still alive! And he hasn't fucked up yet if he's going to! And holy balls they're really taking their sweet time, aren't they? Jesus, they're like in the beginning of the movie. What day is it in our continuity?

>>14780961
I believe Garma's busy becoming the Wolf of Zeon and is fighting a guerrilla war across North America. We won't be able to hand him anything for the foreseeable future.

>>14780861
You're correct, it was in thread 93. I'd completely forgotten about that detail.

So yes, this'll have to go straight to Dozle. If he releases it, we support him. If he holds on to it for now, then we urge him to have it released at the end of the war.
The last thing we want is for more nukes to be flying around.

>>14781044
Well fuck. Send a runner with the data to Solomon explicitly to hand to Shin and Dozle. Commando/infantrymen escort.

>>14781098
>>14781102
Can we hand it directly to Mineva? She IS the Most Rational and Sane of the Zabi.

Also Adorable.

>>14781098
Yeah, I'll back this.

Find the White Base, bring it in with the Hard Drive to Solomon.

Also, would Bright perchance be up for switching sides and piloting alongside Mauser or the two exchanging tips for piloting awesomeness?

>>14781116
Adorable, yes, but isn't she like, two years old right now? Not even? During the canonical battle of Solomon I think she was only a baby. She was TINY. Then again, everything is tiny in Dozle's arms.

>>14781098
...Well three cheers for the chain of command for making this no longer our problem.

>>14780541
Good.

>>14780746
>>14780825
>>14780839
>>14780961
Screw Flanagan's blackmail plan and forget emailing a copy of it. We need to put this hard drive directly in Dozle's hands. Trust no one else.
Nobody breathes a word of this to anyone under any circumstances. If Federation of Gihren spies got hold of it that would be it, we would all of us -everyone- be dead. The man or womon who tries to tell anyone about this should be shot. *(Doesnt mean that they will be shot but still.)
We should make this clear to The Doctor as well to discourage his plans. At the same time find out if he has any other copies. We may end up needing them after the war to make sure some people are put away for war crimes. Hmm...

>>Whilst the long range Nuclear Bazooka was never incorporated into the design (although the majority of it would find use later on as part of the [classified] )

Is ANYONE ELSE worried about what the heck that thing might be? Have we run into anything with a nuclear bazooka recently?

>>14781201
I'll back you up man on that.

What do you think we should do if Dozle doesn't want to turn over the information? Is there a plan beyond "turn this shit in to Dozle"? I'm voting we stick around to bring both the White Base AND the hard drive to him. At the same time.

>>14781147
>>14781116

Four months old now I think.

Pic related, replace that pink thing with the hard drive.

>>14780839
I say we go with this.

>>14781249
I believe the plan is that, if Dozle doesn't release, or at least say he will release, the information after the war, then we will independently release it to the Side 6 government 1 year after the end of the war. That's hopefully enough time for heads to have calmed down but still recent enough for everyone to still be reluctant to lob around nukes.

>>14781220
My guess is he's referring to the GP-02A. I'd be more worried that he's suggesting it's being developed currently.

>>14780839
>>14781262
If this is trying to send Dozle a communique, then I veto it.
As >>14781201 said, we hand that hard drive to Dozle personally. We can't trust anyone beyond the people assembled in this room.

>>14781327
1 Year. Sounds good.

>>14781336
> I'd be more worried that he's suggesting it's being developed currently.

Be worried. The Solomon Express with nukes would almost be worse than GP-02.

>>14781358
I was agreeing more to the actual words than the method of getting it to him. By all means this is something that should be delivered in person.

>>14781358
Agreeing with personally giving Dozel the hard drive. We shouldn't trust anyone with this info at this point in the war, not even those other ships we're sitting next to.
BUT the next question is if we go after White Base or leave immediately to give Dozel the info.

>>14781422
Leave Immediately to give Dozel the Info. The faster we do, the better chance we have of this not fireballing into some sort of fireball.

We need to worry more about keeping the homefront from collapsing, then we do about a single pegasus class carrier.

>>14781422
I think we should stay for the White Base.
If we were to leave immediately, then it would be suspicious.
Besides, if we were to return to Solomon with the White Base in tow, or at least after having dropped it off at Pezun to be reverse-engineered, then it would be much easier to get a face-to-face meeting with Dozle.

>>14781220
Maybe it's something they've bolted on to the Alex-whatever thing? That might be unpleasant.

As for the file, this is the sort of thing that we have to transmit by personal Nachtmaren courier mail ONLY. Because for some things there simply is no secure enough way of transmission.

Dozle is really the only one we can go to with this, since Kycillia would be fair bit pissed that we even know about it and Garma is going to be AFK for the rest of the war. I'm just not sure where we should go from here. Sure, we take this to Dozle, but what then? And what is HE going to do with it? This is one hell of a lever and there no nice obvious fulcrum to put it to. You can always use it to blackmail Kycillia, but to what end? And then there's still the 'you are covering up war crimes' angle. All things considered, burying this for a year might be the best thing to do with this.

...Although, if we are going to be complicit in the cover up of a war crime, the use of a tactical nuke in an abandoned colony cylinder is probably one of the more morally comfortable ones. At least we haven't been gassing civilian populations or building robots powered by tortured souls.

Wait, /this/ GP-02?

http://gundam.wikia.com/wiki/RX-78GP02A_Gundam_%22Physalis%22

Isn't that supposed to be in development like, four freaking years from now? Why would research be that far ahead all of a sudden?

>>14781457
Agreeing with this. The area is not fully secured and the other units on hand would be hard pressed to hold out against a Carrier by themselves.
Give Mauser the drive, he should keep it with him at all times until he gives it to us as we go ashore at Solomon. Quietly tell Anita to keep a sidearm handy and to keep a close eye on Nell's handler if she is on the bridge.

>>14781500
Because we altered the timeline. There were repercussions to our meddling, repercussions that were not always in the interests of Zeon.

>>14781540
Anita hasn't been told what's on the disk, though. The only ones on this ship that know are David, Mauser, Ookawara, and Sara the handler.

I don't want to bring in any more people than we have to.

>>14780669
Agreed. We take the HD and hide it. Infact, destroying it right now might be the absolute best thing possible. We can't allow this information to get out.

((OOC: Isn't a Zeonic Warfleet on the Way to Side 6 to nuke the Alex? It was destroyed so no one ever found out about the nukes, but still.))

>As for the file, this is the sort of thing that we have to transmit by personal Nachtmaren courier mail ONLY.

Come rain or snow or fucking feddies with nukes, Nachtmaren courier gets it there.

Nachtmaren- all the way in a hurry with a trail of destruction in our wake, too.

>>14781586
We dont have to tell her, she just needs to know to keep an eye on Sara if she's on the bridge because that's the only person who does know we dont trust. I dont trust her anyways.
Anita doesnt need to know exactly what's going on to help head off truble. Maybe just tell her to watch Mauser's back.

>>14781619

Destroying it means hiding it means we're complicit in war crimes. Bad thing. Also, the gundam, all the local ships, and the White Base know there was a nuke. And the feddies know they didn't do it. And the gundam thinks/knows char did it.

>>14781500
Because we messed with history. We didn't just amp up mobile suit for Zeon, we kinda did it for EVERYONE.

>>14781457
This is a good point.

Put the drive somewhere safe where WE WILL NOT LOSE IT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES OR HAVE ANYONE ELSE JUST RUN INTO IT, and then get on with the job at hand. We're hunting a fed assault carrier and it’s best not to get too distracted. We had a goal of capturing or killing that ship and we might just have a chance of getting the job done if we stay focused. At this point, no one is quite sure exactly just what happened (besides the obvious) and until we are done dancing with White Base that absolutely also includes us.

Find the ship. If possible, sink it or take it a prize. Then get the stupid drive to Dozle. Or whatever.

>>14781639
Alright, if it's just that, then I'm okay with it.
We still need to figure out what to do with the White Base, though.
We can't just sit here for weeks, waiting for its Minovsky emitters to fail. However, we can't just go rushing in to the debris field to try to find it, either.

Wait, if the White Devil and Trojan Horse survive this, won't they have data indicating a zeonic nuke? I mean, it'll be sketchy but we still could be implicated.

>>14781639
Agreed, but let's just remember to not get greedy out there with White Base. Now we just need to remember this next thread.
Anywho, I'm glad Bernie's okay, at least for now.

>>14781679
Yes, but the plan was for information to come to light that the nuke came from A Boa Qua and that this was another nuke-happy Gihren plot.
After the shit he tried to pull with the nuke at Odessa, and then the Jupiter Ghost, no one would question the accusation.

The problem with this plot, is that we now have evidence confirming that this was a Legitimacy planned nuking, and not a Loyalist one.

>>14781619
Eh. I'd rather give it to Dozle than independently decide to bury it. Like >>14780746 said, that's the reasonable extent of our duty.
I would even argue that this takes higher priority than verifying the status of White Base and Amuro.

>>14781669
We need to reach a decision.

As it stands the environment is a giant hazard, most mobile suits are unable to operate independently for any serious length of time, we have zero communication, and visibility will only continue to degrade.

If we try to find the Trojan Horse amidst the chaos we'll undoubtedly take heavy losses. If we withdraw from the are of engagement we'll have missed a prime opportunity to catch the Gundam and they'll slip away from us yet again. We'll also condemn Char to death.

We should play things conservatively and try to find some kind of sign of Char. The Tojan Horse is just as limited by the enviroment conditions as we are. They can wait. We need to find Char. It'll also help shine some context on what the hell happened.

>>14781721
At this point Amuro and Char can grapple each other in hell for all I care. Char just committed a war crime and Amuro kills everything he touches.

White Base is nigh crippled with one of two engines out, stuck in a debris field waiting for the picket to lighten up so it can escape. We need to find the white base, and either bring it in or destroy it. I'm game for bombarding the debris field until there's nothing but rubble too small for white base to hide behind, White Base breaks from cover from us beating the bush, or they surrender.

What I'd least prefer is them somehow escaping. Second least would be them being destroyed. The best thing would be if they just freaking surrender.

>>14781762
The current idea seem to be:
Use Nell and the bits to form a perimeter around the debris field.
Have David pilot Calvin's old Gyan and with its mobile Minovsky emitter, search the lower dock for Char.
Keep everyone else on combat patrols beyond the worst of the debris and radiation.

I don't see anything else we can do.

>>14781762
Shoot anywhere it could be hiding, perhaps. Beam weapons on ships don't run out of ammo, do they? Generator powered? Could we destroy the debris field as much as possible, finding the few places full of enough minovsky radiation to shelter the White Base, and then search those singular locations?

>>14781779
Just fire the beam cannons on our cruisers into the debris field until we either flush the White Base out, or we destroy their cover?

>>14781779
Are you joking? It's the wreckage from AN ENTIRE COLONY CYLINDER. This thing is huge. There's no way to "bombard" the wreckage field. We wouldn't even know where to begin, and we'd use up our supplies.

The last thing we need to do is have the picket begin bombarding the colony wreckage, and then have the White Base break through due to one chunk of the Picket while its mega-particle cannons recharging.

>>14781779
Hmmm, and how much ammo would we spend reducing a colony's worth of debris to rubble? We have, what, 3-4 ships? No Beam weapons, because of all the Minosky particles.
Not to call you out or anything, just poking holes in plans.

>>14781820

I'm down. It's like beating the bush in hunting. Except we destroy the bush as well as attempt to startle them out of cover. With lasers.

>>14781762
The real question is how soon will the search unit with the radiation shielding show up?
If it's relatively soon I suggest we wait 2 hours for them to scout the rad-heavy areas of debris in case they end up spooking the carrier out of hiding. If they do the chase is on. If they dont we should find something else to do. We incedentally may want to damage the part of the Kommusai the HD was in to make it look like it was destroyed by debris. If Kycilia's people do a sweep to make sure there was no trace of the message sent to Char they'll find none and no place for it to have been kept.

>>14781877
I think that's a smart idea. Let's play the waiting game, and in the meantime lets destroy signs of our own discovery of the Hard Drive.

If ship lasers have unlimited ammunition, then we let'em recharge. We have a small fleet here, I believe. Where we can't shoot are the few places where the White Base can be, because they MUST hide where there's minovsky radiation to keep themselves hard to detect and shield themselves from radiation.

Shoot the places to find out where it isn't, and the places that are left are where they are capable of hiding due to minovsky radiation being present.

I don't know how relevant White Base and Amuro are in canon, so forgive me if this is stupid, but will killing White Base and Amuro or at least one of them really make a huge difference in the war at this point? Beyond the morale of course since that would likely be pretty harsh on the Feds. It just seems like the only way we're actually going to take them out is if we go all in on them and that's going to cost us a lot of resources that could be spent elsewhere. If knocking them out is important storywise than I guess it's worth it but with my lack of knowledge, it just doesn't seem worth it.

>>14781934
Doesn't the gundam make a huge difference and do a lot of stuff at the battle of Solomon and at the battle of A Baoa Qu?

I think we're kind of forgetting the fact that the Feds might actually send reinforcements as well. I mean, it's not like they don't know the White Base is operating in the area, and I'm sure they'd start getting suspicious when they dont get word from WB (assuming they didn't notice the goddamn NUCLEAR EXPLOSION where a colony should've been).

>>14781841
Ok. So you've got a few dudes with, let's say, some kind of chain gun that shoots fairly explosive bullets. You mission to to flush a dude out of the empire state building by taking it apart room by room. That's kind of what it'd be like.

Still, we can set up some kind of perimeter to minimize the chances that they limp away unnoticed, make a quick list of the likely places you could hide a damaged pegaus class carrier, and run a recon flight or two to see if we can't haul in char's traitorous corpse. And while all of that is going on, we think about the best way to sink the white base if we happen to run across it.

>>14781934
The biggest role White Base and the Gundam played in canon was that it made Zeon throw all their resources and best pilots at it at the expense of pretty much the rest of the Federation armed forces.

Kinda like what we're doing right now, actually.

>>14781948
No clue. That's kind of why I was asking. If they do make a huge difference it might be worth trying but I honestly don't think Amuro is going down unless we sacrifice some members of our team.

>>14781915
>>14781898
Actually the colony exterior had a very high Minovsky particle density. It would still be a waste of a lot of fuel (because if it draws power from the reactor, that means more H3 has to be put in), and we only have 3 ships here.

Though the idea of looking for extremely high concentrations of Minovsky particles is a valid idea, but we would still have to scan the large debris field. We don't have Star Trek sensors that can scan an entire planet in less than a minute.

>>14781949
Agreed, but we should at least look for Char before bugging out if it comes to that. I'm pretty sure the survivors were back, we were just about to jump in the Gyan with the EWAC when we got the call about the hard-drive.
And just so you all know, we're actually done with this installment, he gave the TBC in post >>14780471

>>14781989
We've tried to tell them this. We've hinted it, said it out right. They don't listen, all we get is "BLLAAAAAAARG KILL AMURO AND WHITE BASE DEEEEEERPBAAALLLRRRGGGG!"

>>14781934
Amuro and the White Base were essential to the Federation Victory at Solomon, and served as the rallying point for the remnants of the Federation fleet following the Solar Ray attack.

The White Base was a powerful symbol to rally around, and I doubt without its presence and that of the Gundam, that the Federation forces wouldn't have been anywhere near as effective in assaulting A Baoa Qu, or conquering the N Field.

Amuro is also almost entirely responsible for the collapse of S-Field.

>>14782027
We know the session's done; we should still hash things out now, so that we can get right to it on Friday for the next session.

>>14781989
Well we did kill the rest of the fleet that was with them and their GMs.

>>14778160
>After a bit, we should proooobably try to broadcast something that says:
>"Look, half of you are probably going to die of radiation sickness- we don't know whether you tried to nuke us or not and we don't care. We've got medical facilities and the sooner you turn yourselves over the sooner we can run back to good quality medical facilities for us all.
>"By the by, DID you nuke us?"

>>14778449
>Do remember that with all the radiation about, people are flinging minovsky particles about like nobodies business, radio isn't going to work.
>If White Base is alive then they're going to have the minovsky generator going full whack. Now, it's never been tested how long they can keep that going, but given that Federation Minovsky technology on these new cruisers it at least one generation more advanced than yours then it seems fair to assume this amount can be measured in weeks. Food storage would be more of a concern.
>radio isn't going to work.
>radio
Screw radio. It's time for some good old Morse code. Pic related, it's an emergency strobe light. We're bound to have some of these suckers onboard. Program it to flash a msg in sequence and keep repeating. We chuck some of these into the remains of the cylinder in different places.

>Convincing people to go outside to repair external damage however is going to be tricky. Nobody wants to go outside of the ship in just an eva suit when there's radiation about.
So really WB is going to have trouble conducting repairs too?

>>14782035
So. . . if just little old us keep him tied up here, then they may not win at Solomon, right? Meaning they never GET to rally at A Baoa Qu around White Base and attack ABQ from multiple vectors this time.

there was an entire show around them, so I don't know. . . I kind of assume they're rather important.

>>14782061
That's the stupidest plan ever. Signal Lights!? Do you honestly think the White Base is going to surrender? Or even pay attention to that kind of bullshit? There is no communicating, only brutal fighting.

>>14782061
Hey, here's a suggested plan that may work. Add my vote to it, it's better than my plan of SHOOT EVERYTHING as >>14781979
>>14781841
>>14781838
pointed out. So yeah, I vote Arty's plan.

>>14782101
>>grimdarkfag detected

>>14782096
Well I'm sure Dozel would just explode with glee if we took out the Gundam...

But the White Base is not going to allow itself to get trapped here, especially if it means missing an important fleet rendezvous,

>>14782061
I mean concentrating on them at the strategic level. Rather than trying to figure out how to keep the main Federation fleet (who are literally at Zeon's door) from zerg rushing us into submission, we're playing whack a mole in the radioactive remnants of a colony for one carrier that, to Lister's knowledge, may or may not be alive.

>>14782123
It's the end of the war. No one wants to end up in a PoW camp at the end of the war, and a crew as veteran as the White Base would never even consider surrender. Especially since if it's a Zeonic camp there's no way to know for certain if you'll get machine-gunned or nerve gassed when the war goes badly.

>>14782134
fuck the gundam, let it rot. Everything it touches dies aside from Char, and everything HE touches dies too, aside from the gundam.

Screw it. Let's just offer the White Base surrender, hope it accepts, and sit tight. Hell, I'd like to prolong the inevitable lynching we're going to get for being on the losing side of a war where everyone nukes and gasses and pulls assbuttdick moves like we saw today on each other. . .

>>14782031
We're here, they're here, and we've got a possible chance to do them some harm. If we can do that, it'd be a good thing. We need to see if we can find Char, we need to evac those dudes we were evacuating, and if we can find find the ship and organize a strike with good goals and a better chance of success, we probably should.

So, we polish off the obvious things on our to do list, see if the white boogieman pops up, and if not, we call it a day and head back to deal maybe kinda a bit peripherally working for the villains of the series.

>>14782164
We're an independent unit, we don't have to turn over prisoners if they don't want to, especially to the dickbutts who'd nerve gas or machine gun prisoners like Gihren or kycillia. Fuck it, if we have a brig onboard our ship, we keep them there for the rest of the war. Fuck war crimes, we'd like to get through this war WITHOUT doing any intentional war crimes.

>>14782143
>we're playing whack a mole in the radioactive remnants of a colony for one carrier that, to Lister's knowledge, may or may not be alive.
For a few more hours, yes. After that it's up in the air. Or space.

I'm for raiding behind enemy lines ones once we're stocked for fuel and ammo again.

>>14782168
Why do people keep suggesting we ask the White Base to surrender?

>>14782143
Yes, but it's only us playing tag with the White Base; the rest of the Legitimate Zeon military can go ahead with defending Side 3 while we keep the White Base busy.
Besides, after that debacle at Side 4, unless we bring back the White Base as salvage and the Gundam's head on a pike on the prow of the Outer Heaven, we won't have the credibility to give any kind of input to any strategic level decisions.

>>14782047
Okay, was just making sure no one was waiting for a response.
As for the situation, I think we should stay and try to capture White Base, but don't kill ourselves doing so. We're not sure how much Char's ship knows, so we need to keep this on the down low.
After the Operation (Assuming there is an after) we should make our way to Solomon and hand over the hard-drive personally.

>>14782186

Fuck Char, Char's a dick and he's complicit in breaking the Antarctica treaty. Where's Apollyon and Roberto? He's probably been their death by now.

>>14782096
Actually, the biggest role that the Gundam and White Base performed at Solomon was acting as a decoy to draw forces away in the opening stages (which I'm pretty sure they're doing right now). The Federation military did most of the heavy hitting. The most Amuro honestly did in that battle was getting the finishing blow on the Big Zam.

ABQ may be a different matter, but Zeon was suffering from a whole host of other problems independent from the presence of the Gundam.

>>14782215
I'm pretty sure the only reason why we were allowed on this mission is because the brass are secretly hoping that we and the Gundam kill each other off.

>>14782188
and how do you suggest we keep an entire ship of prisoners in the brig? And how do we feed two ships of people? What about the immense security risk that many prisoners brings?

War is hell. You don't seem to realize that yet.

>>14782201
Oh yeah, raiding behind enemy lines is fine with me.
But first, we talk with Dozle, right?
We need to do things in the proper order.

The Gundam and White Base had exceptional performance and were good contributions to the battle of Solomon. But if the Gundam hadn't been there to destroy the Big Zam, Solomon could have been turned into a defeat, and Federal momentum would have been absolutely stalled.

>>14782242
>the brass are secretly hoping that we and the Gundam kill each other off.
Well, yes. That was made pretty obvious when we got our orders.
So, getting some of our credibility and legitimacy back will require that we kill the White Base. Especially after what happened to this colony.

On the bright side, at least we saved M'Quve.

>>14782289
So they are kinda important, but nothing to become obsessed about. We'll have to keep that in mind, citing the situation at Side 4 as our turning point of thinking.
As for asking them to surrender, even if they don't, we'll put doubt into their minds if it was us that nuked them.

>>14782207
Because they're sitting in the midddle of a deadly radiation bowl, possible with damage to their ship. It isnt impossibly long odds that they might take us us up on it, though it's still unlikely.
Having to consider it will also be a blow to their morale. Some of the crew may have second thoughts no mater how many fights they've been through. Also we've never actually asked them to surrender before have we? I mean I think Garma did when we were on our way back from Canada. It's all about getting in the other guy's head.

>>14782349
>>14782353
Amuro already knows Char tried to nuke him. They won't buy that story for a second. But you can try to pass it by them anyway for a good laugh.

And in any case, we have M'Quve on board and he's in critical condition. We should be trying to get him to a military hospital.

>>14782329
Alright, that's one thing positive to come out of this debacle.... Wait, I wonder what that will change in the long run. Assuming he is in any shape to help out later.

>>14782408
Apparently he's been stabilized by the medical personnel on his ship.
If he's stable, then I think we can wait the extra few hours needed for that rescue/salvage ship to arrive from Pezun and for us to confirm whether Char is alive or dead.

>>14782408
Yes, Amuro knows, but he doesn't have contact with Bright, so we can't be sure, until apologized tells us otherwise, what Bright is thinking.

So for next time the rough plan is:
1. Hold on to the HD with the info on it, bringing it to Dozel at the next point.
2. Try to find Char (without being blown up by Amuro)
3. If we can, try to get White Base one way or another.

>>14782792
1: Pretty much. The drive stays under lock and key, and the information doesn't go beyond the 4 people in the briefing room.
2: Pretty much.
3: I think we're going to try to wait them out.