Time-Traveling

Bikers.

>>15072865

Hmm, maybe trying to find a way back in time, to attempt to stop the birth of Slaanesh...

>>15072886

First of all, isn't bikes Saim-hann's schtick?

Second of all, I'm actually trying to avoid jetbikes because I really don't like the models.

>An Eldar faction for the http://1d4chan.org/wiki//tg/_40,000 crusade project.

bueno.jpg

Their Craftworld is a grand shrine to nature, so theyre more Wood-Elf Eldar than High-Elf Eldar like the rest are

>>15072893
Nono, I mean bikers.
Tattoos, FTP, chains, the whole deal.

>>15072911

Oh, forgot about that.

Yes, I'd be totally happy with this being included. Craftworld Enohar could have entered Tiji Sector.

Their craftworld was once the home to and origin of Arha, the original Phoenix Lord of the Striking Scorpions. This is not well known, as they try to keep it quiet, but it's impressed into every Eldar on the world that they must make up for his failure. Guilt complex out the ass, plus a twisted history.

>>15072924

>Tattoos, FTP, Chains

Dark Eldar, then?

>>15072943

Ooh, I like this. It's even mentioned in the codex that no-one knows where the original Scorpion Shrine was. Plus, as you said, massive guilt for Arha.

>>15072943
>>15072970

Although, I'm thinking, wouldn't laying claim to a phoenix lord be a bit sue-ish?

>>15072987
There's actually precedent; one of the Craftworlds claims the Dark Reaper Lord.

>>15072987
Not if he's a huge fuckup.

>>15073003

Maugan Ra? We know he definetly came from Altenesar. He went into the Eye to get it back out.

>>15072987

Hardly. Youre not going to make any money of it are you? Then forget about it, its your army, do what the hell you want with it.
One of my friends has a CSM army that claims to be one of the lost original chapters

>>15073019
That's the fucker, yeah. So if they can claim the one phoenix lord that's actually good, you can certainly claim the fuckup.

Does the craftworld overcompensate or undercompensate? Do they view it as their job to show the universe what a Striking Scorpion can be, or do they avoid the path that is now 'tainted'?

>>15072987
You could always just say they suspect that he originated from that Craftworld. Perhaps they found a very large, very old ruined Striking Scorpion shrine that bore evidence of having taught Ahra's philosophies buried away in the catacombs below the Craftworld's outer shell?

>green on dark magenta

You couldn't come up with an uglier colour scheme?

>>15073041

>Magenta

what

>>15073032

They revere the Striking Scorpions. They're rare, as most occupants don't wish to fall to the same fate as Arha, but they have a small presence, although they are constantly monitored by the other aspects.

>>15073052
I mean cyan. Dark cyan.

The point still stands. The colour scheme is plain bad.

>>15073101

Then feel free to offer alternatives.

That goes for everyone else too, feel free to pitch any ideas you may have for colour scheme.

>>15073131
As it is, the Green and Turquoise are too similar. On the tabletop, they'll just blend into one big mass. Your best bet would be to take two colours that contrast one another without clashing.

>>15073131
First, anything that is more than just two colours. Secondly, something that has more contrast. Mixing two colours you won't really tell apart unless you look hard is generally bad.

>>15072853
BY YOUR POWERS COMBINED, I AM CAPTAIN CRAFTWORLD.

>>15073239
samefag: this is just an example I threw together. Notice the contrast? Also, more than just two colors makes it more distinct.

The brownish color is supposed to be brazen brass.

>>15073305
forgot my pic

What's this about Captain Craftworld?

New craftworld idea: Every guardian is a super hero with his own costume (colour scheme).

>>15073312

See, something about that just doesn't look "Eldar-ish" to me.

>>15073355

So, so far for fluff:

An ancient Striking Scorpion shrine was discovered in the bowels of the craftworld, inspiring speculation that Enohar was the original home of Arha, the lost Phoenix Lord.

This has led to a vigilant monitoring of the existing Striking Scorpion forces on board by the other Aspects.

>>15073441
For what reason? I think it looks very eldar. They're not covered in power armor and that's not how their colour scheme should look, either.

Look at the official eldar colours schemes, they look a lot more like that than like the one in OP.

>>15073565

It's too...busy. Compare it to Saim-hann, or Alaitoc.

>>15073580
and YOU, compare to Dire Avengers.

>>15073599

What, solid blocked-in blue armour, white helms with black and yellow plumes? That's not nearly as busy as the one you suggested.

>>15073580
What the fuck? Both saim-hann and alaitoc has colours that clash worse than that picture. Black, red and white is about as much contrast as you get. No, wait, deep blue and bright yellow are worse.

That's a more dusky blue with an even more dusky grey/white. It's much more subtle than either saim-hann or alaitoc. Or what exactly do you mean by "busy"?

>>15073632

Like, too many things that are different colours. Most other craftworlds have, from the neck down, a single colour.

>>15073645
Yes, but then those colours are always very highly contrasting. You can't pull it off with two colours that are almost the same.

If you want less contrasting colours, you need to get more funky with them, and preferably have more than two.

>>15073645
but then again the offical craftworlds colour schemes are boring as all fuck, at least for the guardians.

>>15073683

Then I'll try high contrast.

>>15073731
I think make the green slightly more bright with a hint of yellow and instead of the orange either dark red or black

Out of curiousness OP, where did you find that Guardian painter? And is there a Dark Eldar version?

>>15073781

Just google "Eldar Painter". It's the top link.

And no, there's only Eldar Guardian, Tau Fire Warrior and B&C have ones for SoB and SM.

>>15073797
Thanks chief!

OK, moving away from the paint scheme, does anyone else have any suggestions for the fluff?

Their style of warfare, named characters, societal organisation...?

>>15073826
CLOSE COMBAT ELDAR

WARPSPIDERS EQUIPPED WITH POWER AXES

GUARDIANS HAVE POWER-PIKES

WRATHLORDS JUST PUNCH THINGS

>>15073848
check out forgeworlds new wraithseer

>>15073826
Farseer Rai'Mu leads her undersized craftworld in their pursuit of peace, occasional engaging in friendly scrimmages with other Eldar, who find their obsession with hats and frills odd, but tolerable. Enoharians tend to have highly individualistic, and even erratic, commanders and lieutenants, whose position in the command structure seems determined by their psychic abilities, rather than competence or seniority.

>>15073903

>obsession with hats and frills odd

...whaaaa?

The rest of it is good, but where did that come from?

>>15073903
>>15073848
We already have a craftworld, we just need details.
>>15072943

each of the 'main' craftworlds are famous for something; beil tan has loads of apect warriors Iyanden has loads of wraithgaurd.
Are we going for something along the lines of Enohar has lots of X and this influences the way they wage war? Or is it going to be a generic and unremarkable craftworld, I'm thinking the former, maybe very close ties to certain Exodite worlds and incorporate fucking dinosaurs into this somehow

>>15073922
It's a touhou reference, I suspect.

>>15073936

I'd like it to be the former too, but I really can't think of anything that's not already been done.

>>15073826
>>15073848
a lost craftworld that vacated necron space. after a fierce encounter with the necron, most of the populous had been killed. The Warp Spiders of this craftworld had rescued the craftworld with the help of farseers to engineer the wraith bone of the craftworld to adapt the mindset of the parasitic warp spiders that lined the hull.

have escaped the onslaught of the necron assault, the farseers and warlock spend a millennia transfering the spirits of ttheir fallen brethern into wraith bodies.

after the Necron assault, the eldar of this craftworld developed a nack for close combat. as they turn necron artifacts into instruments of war.

>>15073963
Indeed, and I apologize thoroughly for shuffling that in there. Still, take that out, and you have a pretty decent craftworld, methinks.

I like the idea of a lost and forgotten craftworld, personality wise they'd be nihilistic and forlorn (even moreso than your average eldar) Lots of wraithgaurd bodies just waiting for spirit stones, as a passtime they construct them knowing that one day they'll end up being plugged into them (something like making their own coffins only slightly more wraithgaurd related)

>>15074033

Oh, I like it. Inhabitants are particularly morbid, even for eldar.

>>15074050
And less "schemy-tricksy" and more "fight the enemies of our race."

>>15074065

So, instead of trying to manipulate the other races, they're just wanting to go out in a blaze of glory.

>>15074097
Why not? They probably come off as far too down-to-earth and morbid to be adept manipulators, and they know they're already dead men, so to speak, so they might as well take out as many warp-spawned horrors as they can.

Also, methinks they'd mostly avoid fighting anyone other than Chaos or the Necrons. The other races just aren't a concern for them.

>>15074097
yea, they've accepted that they're all doomed but they want their deaths to at least have some meaning so they struggle on trying to find it

>>15074122

Well, this would suggest they're staunch believers in Ynnead.

This also helps the colour scheme. It's gonna need a lot of black.

>>15074165

They also wouldn't use Wraithguard, Wraithlords or Avatars, believing the souls of the Eldar are much better used for empowering Ynnead.

>>15074165
I think maybe predominately white armor with black as the secondry color and some red in places.

>>15074190
Har! I like it. I like it a lot.

Now for names of GREAT LEADERS AND IMPORTANT PEOPLE!

Farseer Grau'weth? Warlock Haunvar? High Priest (I'm assuming Eldar have those for their deities) Mateln?

>>15074190
If they're such strong believers in Ynnead will this put them at odds with other craftworlds who don't feel that they're ready to die yet. Ennohar might see this as holding back the Eldar race in general and maybe some clashes are caused because of it

>>15074234

I actually had the idea (/tg/ is going to stone me to death for suggesting this) of a set of twin Autarchs. Twin brothers, both ascended to Autarch. They share a psychic link, and so fight best when fighting together. Get 2 autarch models, with inverted paint schemes.

>>15074279
I don't see why you'd be stoned for that. Although /tg/ IS full of angry neckbeards, so anything is possible...

>>15074279
I like this, I like this a lot, maybe a brother and sister pair of twins (mainly because I can't think of a single female Eldar character who isn't a farseer)

>>15074301

Because Autarchs are regarded as objectively inferior to Farseers in game. But hey, Autarchs are cheap and killy.

>>15074315

Isn't the Autarch in DoW2: Ret female?

>>15074339
oh right, forgot about ret.
For the craftword symbol I was thinking maybe something to do with time and/or death maybe a skull or a clock, the problem with that is I think the skull motif is incredibly overused in 40k but I can't think of anything better

>>15074339

This doesn't mean I don't want farseers, by the way. I'm planning to have them play low-level games to begin with (with the price hikes, I'm not going to be buying models as quickly), but I will be using a farseer at some point.

>>15074399
Two scythes, one atop the other, one facing up and sweeping right, the other down and sweeping left?

>>15074399

Maybe some kind of stylized scythe?

>>15074427
Wait, fuck, I just realized that's just half a swastika.

Nevermind, I derped.

New attempt at a paint scheme.

>>15074474
>What's black and white and red all over?
>Fuck you, Steve, I'm tired of you making fun of my armor.

So, as I'm hoping this will become part of the /tg/ 40,000 canon, where and how would I got about archiving this?

So, anyone got any more fluff suggestions?

What we're looking for in particular is where is the craftworld now, notable characters, notable rivalries, stuff like that.

Oh, damn, someone else archived this. Oh well, we now have 2 copies JUST IN CASE.

Anyway, come on guys, we need STUFF.

A Ynnead-worshipping Craftworld looking to martyr itself? In that case you're going to be especially scorned by the Eldar of Biel-tan, who are fanatically certain the rebirth of their Empire will still come about and that it's the duty of all Eldar to contribute to this.

>>15074930

Oh yeah. So they'll be especially untrusted by Biel-tan.

>>15074939
I think it'd go beyond untrusted probably into the realms of actual fighting against each other. The two craftwords have complete opposite viewpoints. I don't see Enohar having a problem with killing other eldar because in the end the less living eldar the quicker Ynnead will be born

>>15074998

Oh my god they're Malaldar.

(Not really.)

So, if they're hostile to Biel-tan, this gives us an idea where the craftworld itself is located, around the south-east of the Segmentum Tempestus, which would also mean they're close to the path of Hive Fleet Leviathan.

>>15075028
And lawd do they HATE The nids. Their hatred of them goes beyond reason and beyond history. They just feel complete and total rage that such a species could exist. They do everything in their power to destroy the hive fleet.

>>15075053

They may have even repositioned the Craftworld closer to the path of the Hive Fleet, to help eradicate them.

ok so we've established they don't get on with Biel tan, what about the other craftworlds? I'm guessing they mostly just avoid each other but there might be times when they're forced to cooperate with other craftworlds e.g. ork wahhhhs and major chaos invasions

>>15075111

I can imagine any meetings between them and other Craftworlds would be profoundly awkward.

"...So...You all want to die...?"

"......Yes......"

>>15075111

Well, if they're forced to, I imagine they would ally, but it would be a tenuous alliance. There's only 2 craftworlds (excluding biel-tan) anywhere near them anyway and they're minor ones.

>>15075135

Well, they're not SUICIDAL, they've just realised Eldar are pretty much screwed and so are trying to screw as many others as they can.

>>15075137
Indeed. Alliances with Eonhar are matters of necessity, and exercises in minimal communication, and as soon as the threat is passed the craftworlds go their separate ways, much to their mutual relief.

Are these... gothdar?

It might make sense for their symbol to incorporate an ankh, what with it representing life beyond death, which is kind of what they're after once they snuff it.

>>15075231

Eh, I dunno, it might be a bit close to Biel-tan's symbol, which, considering they're enemies...

if we're still thinking about the scheme how about this, mainly Cream/bone coloured armour with black trim

>>15075244

True.

>>15075269

To be honest, looks too close to Ulthwé.

>>15075269
That's Ulthwe's gig, man

Maybe bone and like a gore red.

>>15075279
Masque of the Red Death? That sort of fatalistic "Fuck everyone, it's already over" mentality?

>>15075279
It's more of a reverse Ulthwe, but yea I agree It is a bit too simmilar,

>>15075279

That does look pretty cool.

>>15075293
I completely approve.

Not completely, actually, that sounds too harlequin-ish.

Or, if you want a dreadful robed dude as their representation of Ynnead, dunno, more like the King in Yellow.

There's already Iyanden with this colour scheme, but I'm sure that making it look more bone-like and unhealthy would work fine. let me dick around with the painter.

so, we're settled for Ynnead worshippers, with very few wraith constructs, right?

>>15075379
Sounds good.

>>15075379

Yep, next to no wraiths.

Also, your King in Yellow comparison gave me an idea. An Avatar model. But no Khaine.

YNNEAD AVATAR.

>>15075323 I do rather like the bone and red, do you think it looks different enough to Saim-Hann though

This is how I Eldar.

>>15075405

That's true actually. It might look too similar to Saim-hann.

>>15075399
He's not awakened yet, that's too much of fluff-raping

>>15075405
Gore red and pale yellow?

>>15075423

But Khaine is either dead or under Slaanesh's control and he still has avatars.

>>15075432

Nah, yellow would be too bright.

>>15075444
I'm talking like
Pale yellow

Like, diseased flesh yellow. Pastel almost.

>>15075405
I think this is different enough to work, a majority of the armor on say a gaurdian would be cream/bone but some red on there just to add some contrast

>>15075458
Getting a bit Nurglish there, bro.

>>15075462
They ARE death-focused.

A yellow-bordering-on-bone is a great death color, and the gore red would keep it from being a Nurgle scheme.

>>15075462
That's not wrong.

working on it, please expand on the fluff, the color scheme should come later, once we've fluffed it out better.

>>15075459

Yeah, while Saim-hann is mostly red. You make a good point sir. So we're going with bone, crimson and black detailing?

>>15075470
so, basically, like white phyrexians?

I'll work on that too.

>>15075472

Yes, we need more fluff.

So, are they led by farseers, or by Autarchs, or whatever?

>>15075478
...Actually that's like

The exact scheme I was thinking of

>MFW I realize I'm trying to make Eldar Elesh Norn
>MFW I would so try and model an Elesh Norn Wraithlord

ok so thus far we've figured out:
their name
the fact they loathe wraith constructs and see them as something of a perversion against their future.
I do still like the idea of them making all these empty wraithgaurd/lord shells that they'll hopefully never have to use and having them almost like a statue garden deep in the heart of the craftworld

>>15075484
I figured they were led by farseers and their premiere warriors were the Autarch twins. So, unlike in every other goddamn army, the leader isn't just the guy who can fight the best.

>>15075530

Makes sense. Now we need names for the Farseer and the Autarch Twins.

>>15075552
Ishatiel?

>>15075586

Farseer Kalleth Ishatiel.

Now we just need names for the twins.

went for a more purplish dark, shiny undercoat to contrast.

good?

>>15075607
Brilliant, I like the fact that it looks rather skeletal and I think that suits them nicely

>>15075607

Ooh, I like the bone/purple. And it's totally unique, it looks nothing like any other craftworld. You could be onto something.

>>15075597
Tarlieneth and Kolesarna.

>>15075623
purple is the basic color used to contrast with yellow. see slaaneshi marines. But here, I tried to avoid making it fabulous.

So, do we keep on with this?

>>15075629

Autarch Tarlieneth and Autarch Kolesarna.

Ehhh. I dunno what bugs me about them, but they just don't seem...I don't even know. Just something off about them.

>>15075643
Yeah.

I like it.

I think this is our scheme.

>>15075653
kolesama sounds weeaboo.

I suggest egyptian-inspired names. After all, the Ynnead is the greek term used to refer to the nine main egyptian gods.

Most of the Eldar of Craftworld Enohar are stoically resigned to their fate; to die and herald Ynnead's birth. There are however individuals who do not share this sentiment, mainly youngsters, they will often leave the craftworld perhaps for years at a time becoming corsairs mercenaries or rangers. Inevitably as time passes they come to realise the futility of trying to escape their fate and are drawn back to the craftworld.

>>15075643

With the new scheme. I really like it.

>>15075673

Yeah, plus the purple/bone just seems to look egyptian too.

>>15075673
Gavra

Maharal

Benzalel

Yechsen

>>15075705
not the purple. when I think egypt, I think blue and gold, which is too close to Iyanden (which is why they all have those robot mummies and are obsessed with death)
But okay.

>>15075721

Autarch Gavra and Autarch Maharal. Heralds of Ynnead.

>>15075732
HEAR, HEAR!

>>15075732
okay, so they're a bit semitic. I like it, it's more coherent to their religion, and I can put more tiaras.

Also, writefags, your handiwork would be more than apprieciated.

How often does the suptg archive update? I'm gonna need to go soon, and the archived version seems to be kinda out of date. Is it every hour or so?

>>15075762
>MFW you recognized the Yiddish

Man. I thought I was being clever.

what are their views on aspect warriors?

If we want to keep the slightly oriental feeling, maybe Swooping Hawks (but they suck...) or Avengers.

NO warp spiders, they can't afford having a bunch of their toughest guys losing their souls everytime they jump in the warp/

>>15075780
two hours

>>15075796
I could see an emphasis on embracing the battle as quickly as possible. Maybe Spears and Banshees.

...Okay I admit I just think Shining Spears would look fucking awesome in this scheme.

>>15075796

Tolerant. DA are a mainstay, obviously. Banshees would make sense too.

The only things that wouldn't REALLY make sense are wraith constructs, Avatars and Harlequins.

one schtic that isn't coverd by the current craftworlds is using mainly suicide-squads of firedragons.
Which would incidentaly probably be the tactic you'll be using after a few tries.

>>15075817
Banshees will need a re-fluffing and re-designing, because they're so Irish they shit freckles. Even their armor is as white as a farm girl's ass.

>>15075796
I agree no warp spiders, how about a rather large Shadow Spectres shrine (if they're even cannon) I think they suit the imagary as do Dark Reapers

too bad they wouldn't have much Dark reapers, they would have looked cool.

>>15075829

Well, they like charging into battle. Wouldn't need much of a redesign, they're already wearing bone armour.

>>15075830
shadow spectres sound cool.

>>15075830

Shadow Spectres would be awesome, as would Dark Reapers.

Plus, aren't dark reapers being redone in finecast?

>>15075839
I'd need to remove the ginger mane, to take off the belly shield and the plaid, in the end, most of what gives them their character (well, scottish/irish stuff) and replace it by oriental equivalents

>>15075858

I thought we agreed on an Egyptian theme?

>>15075853
dark reapers are pretty much the exact opposite of banshees.

>>15075864
That's what I'm saying, and that's why they do need a good re-design, because simply having a white armor isn't enough to stick with our craftworld.

>>15075873

Oh, I agree, it was just because you kept saying "oriental". Which isn't Egyptian.

>>15075873
for the banshees perhaps some sort of stylized Pharaoh style death masks and maybe Khopesh instead of the katanas they've got at the moment

>>15075878
but the opposite is true, and they have semitic influences as well.

so, gonna try my hand at re-designing the banshees.

>>15075894
okay, but you know, most of the current eldar swords are basically khopesh. You all seem to focus on the weeaboo katana thingie, but they look far more like khopesh already.

>>15075894
oh, or maybe an other idea.

cleavers. Babylonians used those, IIRC, and dark eldars have cool ones.

>>15075905

They're more scimitars, which are still middle-eastern, so it still fits the theme.

>>15075829
>so Irish they shit freckles. Even their armor is as white as a farm girl's ass.

That is such a lovely cluster of descriptions.