>>17423169
>Generating Attribute Scores
Roll 1d10 and Multiply the result by 9 for each attribute.

>Attributes
-Strength
-Intelligence
-Speed
-Endurance
-Courage
-Firepower
-Skill

>Alt Modes
Animal, Giant
-Get +10 Strength, +10 Speed, +10 Endurance and -30 Intelligence while in Alt Mode
Car, Fast
-Get +20 Speed and -10 Endurance while in Alt Mode
Car, Utility
-Get +10 Endurance and +10 Strength while in Alt Mode
Plane, Nimble (Fighters)
Plane, Heavy (Passenger jets, Bombers)
Monster, Ground
Monster, Air
Monster, Sea
Boat, Civilian
Boat, Military
Spacecraft
Military Vehicle, Light (Humvees, APCs)
Military Vehicle, Heavy (Tanks)
Car, Racing
Car, Regular
Car, Mini
Car, Van
Trailer Truck
Animal, Giant Sea
Animal, Giant Air
>Gender
Roll 1d2, 1=female, 2=male

>Body Colors
Roll 1d10 twice. 1st roll is dominant color, 2nd is accent color.
-1 Red
-2 Purple
-3 Blue
-4 Green
-5 Yellow
-6 Orange
-7 Black
-8 White
-9 Gray
-10 Teal

>HP
Multiply your endurance by 2. This your HP.

>Ranged Attacks
Roll a Skill check. If you pass, your target must pass a Speed check. If he fails you deal 1d10 + 1/2 Firepower damage. If you passed your Skill check by 30 points below the minimum or more, instead deal 1d10+ Firepower damage.

>Melee Attacks
Roll a Skill check. If you pass, your target must pass a Speed check. If he fails you deal 1d10 + Strength damage. If you passed your Skill check by 30 points below the minimum or more, instead deal 1d10+ 2x Strength.

>>17423180
Background/history table inspired by crunchanon.

>Background/History

If a background seems incompatible with a character (like a Scientist with 9 Int), you may re-roll your result

>roll 1d10

>1-Commoner
You don't know about science, tactics, or higher learning, but you know how get shit done
>2-Noble
You come from one of Cybertron's wealthy families. You have rare gadgets and a silver toungue.
>3-Sentry
You were a member of one of the many Sentry teams. You juggle between combat effectiveness and investigative ability
>4-Politician
You held political office on Cybertron. You know how to be subtle and how to play to the crowd.
>5-Medtechnician
Whether as a Hospital Doctor or a Field Medic, you've learn how to repair serious wounds and provide advanced care.
>6-Engineer
You were among Cybertron's best and brightest. You know how to build fortifications, weapons, and computers.
>7-Soldier
You were trained in a military academy. You know how to fight, how to plan, and how to win.
>8-Spy
Whether acting for an official government or private interest, you now how to watch without being seen.
>9-Criminal
You've been (or perhaps are) on the wrong side of the law. You know how to play it cool and how to figure out who's trying to screw you over.
>10-Storied
Roll twice on this table.

>>17423202

Commoner
In-fiction examples; G1 Ironhide, TFA Bulkhead

Favored Skills;
>Select one skill. This is now a favored skill.

Abilities;
>Roll 3 times on the Common Ability Table

Special;
>Apply a conditional -10 difficulty to Leadership or Negotiation when interacting with individuals who view you as lowly due to your social status.


Noble
In-fiction examples; G1 Mirage

Favored Skills;
>Negotiation

Abilities;
>Roll once on the Uncommon Ability Table and once on the Rare Ability Table

Special;
>Apply a conditional +10 difficulty to Leadership or Negotiation when interacting with individuals who view you as educated due to your social stauts.

>>17423213

Sentry
In-fiction examples; G1 Devcon, BW Depthcharge

Favored Skills;
>Deduction

Abilities;
>Roll twice on the Uncommon Ability Table

Special;
>Hold-out Pistol; All sentries have a secondary sidearm in the event that their main weapon is destroyed or lost. A back-up pistol deals damage as though the Sentry's Firepower was halved (round down)


Politician
In-fiction examples; G1 Ratbat

Favored Skills;
>Leadership, Negotiation

Abilities;
>Roll three times on the Uncommon Ability Table

Special;
>Connections; You know who knows someone. The exact effects of this ability are up to the GM, but in general the Politician may make a Negotiation or Leadership check once per 3 in-game days to call-in a favor of some sort.

>>17423230

Medtechnician
In-fiction examples; G1 Ratchet, G1 Hook

Favored Skills;
>Repair, Deduction

Abilities;
>Roll once on the Common Ability Table and
once on the Uncommon Ability Table

Special;
>Medtools; Medtechnicians begin play with a set of Medtools at no cost.
>Medtech Training; You can attempt the Advanced uses of the Repair skill without proper tools at a -15 penalty instead of the usual -30 penalty.


Engineer
In-fiction examples; G1 Wheeljack, G1 Perceptor

Favored Skills;
>Science, Technology

Abilities;
>Roll once on the Common Ability Table and
twice on the Uncommon Ability Table

Special;
>Techtools; Engineers begin play with a set of Techtools at no cost.
>Mad Scientist; You can attempt the Advanced uses of the Science and Technology skills without proper tools at a -15 penalty instead of the usual -30 penalty.

>>17423269
Soldier
In-fiction examples; G1 Ultra Magnus, G1 Onslaught, BW Dinobot

Favored Skills;
>Select one skill. This is now a favored skill.

Abilities;
>Roll twice on the Uncommon Ability Table and
once on the Rare Ability Table

Special;
>Discipline; Whenever a Soldier must take a Courage Test, roll twice and take the best result.
>Strength in Numbers; The Soldier receives a conditional +1 bonus to damage for every ally within visual range (up to +5 max).


Spy
In-fiction examples; G1 Bumblebee, G1 Punch/Counterpunch, G1 Laserbeak, G1/BW Ravage

Favored Skills;
>Deduction, Stealth

Abilities;
>Roll once on the Rare Ability Table

Special;
>Plausible Deniability; Spies are rarely acknowledged by their benefactors. Subject to GM's discretion, some allied Government Elements might ignore your activities or requests.
>No one would suspect; You gain a +20 on difficulty to convince others that you're not involved in shady business.

>>17423282

Criminal
In-fiction examples; G1 Swindle, G1 Wildrider, BW Megatron

Favored Skills;
>Select two skills. These are now your favored skills.

Abilities;
>Roll three times on the Uncommon Ability Table

Special;
>Paranoia; All Deduction and Negotiation tests add a -10 penalty to the difficulty due to the air of mistrust that originates from you.
>Lone Gunbot; As long as there are no allies within visual range, Criminals roll twice for Courage Tests and take the better result.


Storied
In-fiction examples; G1 Megatron, G1 Optimus Prime

Special;
>Roll twice again on the History table. You gain all traits from those backgrounds. Further rolls of Storied are cumulative.

>>17423169
Good to see this didn't die with the thread.

>>17423292
To-do list;

>Short-term
-Work on the skill system
-Write Ability tables
-Write Ability Descriptions
-Write rules for most of the alt modes
-Stat key NPCs
-Condensed, G1-centric history

>Long-term
-Target/Breast/Power/Headmaster rules
-Pretender rules
-Expanded history of G1-esque continuity.

>>17423292
>>17423339

Why the fuck would anyone draw that?!

>>17423361
Because they hate you, your happiness and your childhood memories and take perverted delight in ruining them for you.

Rough Timeline;

>Pre-History
Creation of Transformers, Quintessons driven off of Cybertron, First Cybertronian War between Autonomous Robots and Deceptive Constructs (names are hold-overs from the Quints).
>Golden Age
Pax Cybertronia establishes a uneasy peace between Autobots and Decepticons, Colonisation (Paradron, Micro, Velocitron, etc),
New Factions began appearing (Like the Autobot-splinter vigilante Protectabots and the Decepticon-splinter Constructicons).
>The Fall
Cybertron ruling elites begin fanning interparty tensions for political gain but it backfires spectacularly, Numerous rebellions (Megatron's Decepticons, Multi-Force's Destrons, Sentinel Prime's Maximals), Second Cybertronian Civil War, The Exodus (Many Cybertronians Flee from the war, including the future founders if the Neo-Cybertronian Empire)
>The Dark Age
Megatron and Optimus Prime crash on Earth and slumber for millions of years, Cybertron becomes a total warzone once the two strongest leaders disappear, Neo-Cybertronian Empire expands. (Beast Wars goes here)
>The Return
Megatron and Optimus Prime re-awaken and continue their battle on Earth, Cybertronians flock to Earth to help both sides, Cybertronian colonies are attacked by the mysterious Planet X

cont.

>>17423404
>>17423404
>The Renewal
The Battle of Autobot City, The Death of Optimus Prime, The Time Wars, new technologies are introduced (Binary Bonding, Micromasters, Pretenders), The Inter-Cybertronian War, Earth exiles Transformers and develops their own robots, The Machine Wars, The Earth Concordat re-establishes Cybertronian presence on Earth, Deathsaurus terrorizes Earth briefly.
>The Great Upgrade
Maximals and Predacons gain domiance over their predecessors, Maximals claim complete control of Cybertron, Predacons (and others) relegated to second-class citizenship and hard labor, Maximal High Council mandates The Great Upgrade on all of their worlds (Some who do not want this upgrade flee off-world), A Predacon criminal who calls himself "Megatron" steals the Golden Disc from the Hall of Archives and is pursued by the colonization vessel "Axalon".
>The Change
Megatron returns to Cybertron and unleashes a Transmode virus, Cybertron is devastated by the sudden attack, Megatron uses Quintesson connections to obtain drones of various makes and models, Cybertronian rebels rally behind the questionably-sane Optimus Primal, Using ancient technology the organic nature of Cybertron is enhance loosed, Cybertron becomes techno-organic.
>Trans-Tech
The distinction between the organic and technological becomes lost on Cybertron as this two dimensions become fused in incomprehensible ways, The Dimension Wars begin.

For the beta rules, I'll prolly drop the Beast Era and onwards, as well as good portion of The Renewal. Should the Golden Age and Pre-History sections be dropped too?

>>17423435
As the transformers in this era are going to be using the same rules as the regular ones, I see no reason to dispose of them. While it's sad to see it go, its probably best to keep Beast Wars separate until time can be taken to do beastforms justice/balance them against vehicle altmodes.

>>17423506
So you think it should be
>Pre-History
>Golden Age
>The Fall
>The Dark Age
>The Return
>The Renewal
?

Sounds good. I shall post a short-list of NPCs in a minute.

>>17423693
Sounds good to me, but I am merely one anon and my opinion does not reflect that of the masses.

>>17423693
NPCs shortlist

>Autobots
-Zeta Prime
-Optimus Prime
-Rodimus Prime
-Ultra Magnus
-Autotrooper
-Kup
-Ironhide
-Ratchet

I need suggestions for support/mentor/questgiver NPCs please.

cont;

>>17423760

>Decepticons
-Megatron
-Starscream
-Shockwave
-Ratbat
-Straxus
-Soundwave
-Air Warrior
-Ground Warrior

cont.

>>17423713
Well, you're the only one giving feedback, so for now you are the masses.

>>17423787
>Quintessons
-Judge
-Chamberlain
-Researcher
-Executioner
-Soldier
-Blitzwing
-Overcharge
-Sharkticon
-Allicon

For the Pre-History era I might have to pull a Dreamwave and assign some of the Japanese-exclusive characters as Ancient Cybertronians.

With my limited knowledge of the lore ...
>>17423787
Autobots:
Prowl?
Sentinel Prime?
Alpha Trion?
>>17423760
Decepticons:
Galvatron?
Thunderwing?
Blitzwing?
Cyclonus?

>>17424038
Sentinel/Zeta Prime are sorta the same guy. I just used Zeta because I associate Setinel with DoTM and TFA
Thank you for mentioning Galvy, that reminded me about the Sweep, another good Con mook.

>>17423760

Wheeljack, especially G1. Plenty of fetch quests for parts he needs, and can provide experimental upgrades and weapons.

G1 Jetfire could fill that role as well, but I think his Armada incarnation as Optimus's second in command would be useful.

>>17423760
Barricade. I think that either G1 or movie would work best here - the latter lending more to stealthy mission, with G1 linking into a criminal sector.

Blackarachnia would be good as well, but she'd likely have to wait until we add Beast Wars.

>>17424246
Does anyone know of any mass-produced Autobot/Maximal/Cybertron soldiers besides the Omnicons and Autotroopers?

>>17424477
Personal Taste coming in here. I don't like the idea of "faceless" foes. I feel a handful of recurring villains with GM characterization fits Transformers better than a "monster manual" of Autodrones or whatever.

>>17424246
I forgot to mention that Blitzwing is included with the Quints for fluff reasons (mainly that he shares a body-type with mass-produced Quint soldiers)

>>17424443
>Barricade
Interesting. I might mash-up the two, make Barricade a corrupt Sentry on a crime lord's payroll.

>>17424517
Well, mass-produced TFs aren't exactly faceless. They may share bodyframes and look identical but there is room for individual personalities. Also, a GM could always fluff a squad of 3 Air Warriors as 3 unique Decepticons.

>>17424477
There's the Decipticlones, but I don't think many of them were smart, or could even transform for that matter.

>>17424661
I will forever have nightmares about those spider tanks OH GOD THEY'VE FOUND ME.

>>17424477
well no other good guy ones but for villains there's the Seacons from Masterforce, the Vehicons from Beast Machines, the Decepticlones from Armada's PS2 Game, the Terrorcons from Energon, the Scrapmetals from Cybertron, and the Vehicons/Eradicons from Prime(as well as Dark Energon Zombies also from Prime) as well as the Already mentioned in this thread Sharkticons, Allicons, and when you think about it there's also the G1 Insecticons(especially the IDW versions)

The Transformers have a history of limited body types, produced in mass quantities.

In the fiction that doesn't directly tackle Transformers reproduction, it makes sense, because it implies that they were constructed for specific purposes.

In real life, it makes sense, because they can sell the same toy multiple times.

>>17424760

Even to this day I get the chills just thinking about that noise they make when they charge that cannon of theirs.

"Herpa derp exploring, looking for Minicons, herpity derpity-"

>BBBZZZZZZZTTTTTTTT

"Oh shit! Where is it?! OHFUCKOHFUCKOHFUCKOHFU-"

>BOOOOOOOOOM

"TEAM HOTSHOT'S BLASTING OFF AGAIN!!!"

>>17424477

http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Drone

Off the top of my head, the Movieverses armies, at least for the Decepticons, were like 90% Drones.

>>17424866
> Early in the game.
> The Arctic.
> Minding my own business looking for Minicons.
> Suddenly BBBZZZZZZZTTTTTTTT
> "Stasis Lock"
MFW

>>17424884
>>17424477
Just from quickly Browzing that page, here's some Autobot Drones.
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Zoom-Zoom
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Clutch_%28G1%29
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Autoscout
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Auto-combatant

>>17425017
Zoom-zoom, despite having a dumb name, shows promise.
You and >>17424835 have given me some ideas.

I'll try to post some ability tables later.

bump

Bump?

Bump, about to start posting.

>>17424760
Man, did anyone else love that game? I know it was pretty generic and they cut out the plot halfway through development, but it was so fun just to wreck shit as Optimus Prime.

>>17424884
Speaking of good Transformers games, apparently the armies in War for Cybertron are mostly literally nameless mooks.

Archived at
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/17423169/

Rare ability table

Roll 1d10 and consult the table below

1-Roll on the Uncommon Ability table instead
2-Extra Alt Mode
3-Mutant Spark
4-Internal Fusion Reactor
5-Portable Drones
6-Holograms, Advanced
7-Cloning, Multiple
8-Extra Robot Mode
9-Flight
10-Roll twice on this table, ignoring further results of 10

>>17428651
Uncommon ability table

Roll 1d10 and consult the table below

1-Roll on the Uncommon Ability table instead
2-Aquatic Adaptation
3-Multiprocessor
4-Redunant Support Systems
5-Teleportation
6-Holograms, Simple
7-Cloning,Single
8-Cerebro Shells
9-Junkion
10-Roll twice on this table, ignoring further results of 10

>>17428746
>1-Roll on the Uncommon Ability table instead
derp. Should be "Common Ability table"
Common ability table

Roll 1d10 and consult the table below

1-Roll on the Uncommon Ability table instead
2-Energy-Efficient
3-Gyro-Stabilizers
4-Internal Tools
5-Communication Hub
6-Utilatarian Frame
7-Extra Arms
8-Advanced Analytical Processor
9-Advanced Sensor Array
10-Roll twice on this table, ignoring further results of 10

rolled 2, 1, 9 = 12

Rustbucket here.

Rolling for uncommon abilities. He's a politician.

Bump for the night. Will continue tomorrow.

rolled 9 = 9

>>17429251
Since I got a 2, I'm rolling from the Common table.

>Aquatic Adaptation
His truck mode can convert the snowplow into a little propeller, for submarine travel. Robot mode is useless underwater.

>Junkion
Explains a lot, actually. He's even orange!

>>17429251
Aquatic Adaptation, Junkion, and re-roll on the Common Table.

Nice to see you again.

>>17429271
>Advanced Sensor Array
This is part of what lost him his ambassadorial position, I'm sure of it.

>>17429281
I'm not going anywhere, mang.

Hey, new version of the thread, hurrah.

According to the map from "Transformers: Vault" Barricade is from Iacon, so it would make sense that he'd be a corrupt police officer.

I love you.

>>17429433
>Barricade is corrupt police officer in Iacon
>Sky Shadow and Blue Bacchus are part of a robot mafia
>Thunderwing was the head of a robot mafia
Thanks, anon, you just provided some interesting campaign hooks.

>>17430195
I like you in a platonic way.

>>17430349
Teeechnically they're just gangsters rather than Mafia. You'd probably be better off having them as Destron Yakuza. (Destron being an ancient cybertronian culture, and language, and just happens to be like Japanese)

MOAR

Is there a wiki where all this is being archived?

So, how about gestalts?

From what I know of transformers there are basically four kinds of gestalts:

Team gestalts: where a bunch of transformers make one powerhouse.
Such as Devastator.

Variable Gestalts: Where one transformer can combine with a bunch of other transformers (or the McGuffins of the show), but only one or two at a time, to form a slightly more powerful or better adapted to their environment version of themselves. As in the CGI+anime Japanese shows.

Headmasters:
The crazy things from the end of g1 where one transformer/human/alien was the "brains" of a different transformer. This was supposed to give them increased mental capacity for things like better maneuverability and better aiming skills. In return you couldn't transform into your robot mode without your head turning into a head, so only one of you could walk around at a time.
The best example is Fortress Maximus, who needed Cerebros to become his head, who in turn needed Spike to become Cerebros's head. So he is some kind of double-headmaster for maximum insanity.

And
Reverse gestalts: Where one transformer transforms into multiple detached components, which somehow share the same mind. This doesn't make them more powerful, but rather more adaptable and able to multitask better.
Such as Sky Lynx(G1)

>>17430635
That'd be pretty complex depending on the gestalt type.

Energon really went nuts with combiners, practically the entire Autobot line could do top-bottom combinations. Though that case was relatively simple, the bottom Autobot basically became a temporary upgrade pack for the top, who was in control. (BDSM subtext is your choice to see)

I kind of want to play this, but my work schedule is erratic as hell.

rolled 2, 2, 5, 9, 3, 10, 8 = 39

Oh, what the hell, I'll roll something up anyway.
>Rasp Ozager

Captcha want's me to name this one Rasp.

rolled 9 = 9

>>17430804
So multiplying by 9 gives:

-Strength 18
-Intelligence 18
-Speed 45
-Endurance 81
-Courage, 27
-Firepower 90
-Skill 72

Hp: 162

Holy crap. It's dumb and weak and cowardly, but it's hard as hell to kill and it packs one big ass gun.

Rolling for alt-mode.

rolled 1 = 1

>>17430846
>Boat, Civilian
Oh boy. What kind of civilian boat would have a big-ass gun and neigh-impenetrable hull?

A submarine, that's what. Fits in the with cowardly dumb runt thing, civilian subs are kind of small.

Rolling for gender!

rolled 6, 3 = 9

>>17430874
Righto, Rasp is a girl.
That's going to make some people mad.

On to colors.

>>17430896

>girlformer
>no pink available

:(

rolled 9 = 9

>>17430896
>Orange/Blue Contrast.

Oh dammit dice gods, are you just trolling me now?

Well, on to Backgrounds.

Concerning Gestalts:

Due to an unexplainable quirk in Cybertronian creation, a rare few cybertronian sparks bear remnants of mitosis attempts.

A successful spark-branching results in what are commonly dubbed "clones" or "twins", where a pair of cybertronians possess a connection beyond the sense of siblinghood felt by all "batch constructed" cybertronians, but a physical shared connection between them. These unfortunates often suffer actual mechanical injuries if their sibling is damaged, and should one die, so will the other.

Where a spark branches partially, but mitosis is not complete, the resulting cybertronian possesses a split sense of self, similar to what humans call "Multiple Personality Disorder". They will view themselves as two individuals, and will often hold conversations with themselves, despite understanding that "both of them" are in fact the same being.

The most common spark malfunction is an incomplete spark, where a spark is apparently complete, but lacks certain energies which leads to a sense of emptiness or an almost disturbing desire to be subservient to others.
Those so aflicted were ideal subjects for the prototype "Gestalt" technology, where the melding of sparks helps keep the individual sparks stable and reliable, and the physical combination allows for gigantic super warriors.

Religious Cybertronians often point to the obscure figure from Cybertron's mythic age "Nexus Prime", as the souce of these spark malfunctions, and venerate him in hopes of relieving the pains and difficulties of spark-mitosis.

>>17430921
...that comes off as weird and potentially creepy, but also potentially really interesting.

THough I imagine some combiners just have special equipment installed and just let themselves take a back seat while another Transformer uses their body. I think Transformers are likely to have a very different approach to body image and 'self' than humans, since their bodies can be relatively easily completely changed, transferred and otherwise altered with few side effects.

rolled 7, 2, 6 = 15

>-Criminal

I don't know if Rasp has enough processing power to figure out all that crime stuff.
But it does fit with a cowardly crackshot who is a submersible. Perhaps she was a smuggler of sorts.
Maybe she took a shot to the head, and that's why she is dumb now?
>Paranoia
sounds lovely.
>Lone Gunbot.
That's going to help a bit.
>Skills
Er, are those in the other thread?
Rasp is going to go with the hide and spot equivalents at any rate.
> Abilities:
Rolling
>more backgrounds.
I'll handle those next.

rolled 7, 10 = 17

>>17430963
7-Cloning,Single (god what?)
2-Aquatic Adaptation (Redundant or essential? Well Rasp is truly at home in the water now)
6- Holograms, Simple (That will help with the hiding bit)

Incidentally, what is a "trait"? Is that all of the stuff they have listed or just the abilities?

rolled 9, 4, 3 = 16

Holy crap, just how old is Rasp going to be when this all ends?
>7-Soldier
>Skills
One more? I guess, repair?
>
>Discipline
Does this stack with lone gunbot?
Rasp is very brave for being such a coward. I wonder what all these re-rolls mean for probability.
>Strength in Numbers
Oh great, even more damage. Rasp now has the most devastating weapon you can pack onto a small Transformer. Heck, it's even more devastating than some of the big guns. I be Megatron would love a weapon like this.

>Abilities

Rolling this time

>10-Storied

Next post will see just how game-breaking the Criminal sortied stacking can be.

>>17431014
So you're a tiny female, brightly coloured sub, with a freakin' massive cannon, who hates groups, except when the group is her.

rolled 5, 1 = 6

>>17431014
9-Junkion (well that explains everything)
4-Redunant Support Systems (more underwater, more hard to kill)
3-Mutant Spark

Jesus Christ, just how hard is it to kill Rasp at this point?!

Rolling the final backgrounds. And I am disregarding any 10's for sake of sanity at this point.

rolled 5, 3, 8, 8, 7 = 31

>>17431045
>5-Medtechnician
Her neruoprossessor damage was so excessive, only she could repair it, obviously.
>skills
Deduction, is added, or not. Still hazy on that point.
>Medtools
Free stuff!
>Abilities;
Will be in this roll. adding all of them up, going from common to uncommon.
>Medtech Training.
Well that might be useful at some point.

>1-Commoner
Her current state of being, fitting that it is the last one.

>Skills
Negotiation sounds like a winner.

>Abilities;
three more commons.

>-10 for leadership and negotiation.
Yeah, I would have trouble following the advice of someone with brain damage too.

>>17431038
I wonder what her alt-mode looks like.

Offbeat alt-modes are fun, I once came up with a Transformer whose alt-mode is a roller coaster train. (and his Mini-Con buddy is a hot dog cart)

Hell, go to a state fair or similar sometime- portable rides look like they'd be crazy awesome Transformers.

rolled 5, 10, 1, 8, 9 = 33

>>17431080
>5-Communication Hub
Rasp can sing to the whales! And also relay messages, as befitting a smuggler. Maybe even pick up some TV signals.
>3-Gyro-Stabilizers
That would be nice to have under the waves.
>8-Advanced Analytical Processor
Twice? It must be her old neuroprocessor smarts coming through to keep her from being completely dumb!
>3- Multiprocessor
Well that settles it, the dumb is just a split-personality thing that happens to be the dominant one due to trauma.

So basically Rasp is an ex-(whatever transformers use for S.E.A.Ls, a Wrecker I think?) aquatic-ops medic, who was also a smuggler of sorts. One day after a bad deal, she was double-crossed (or perhaps caught) and was blasted to the point of termination. However! Her mutant spark allowed her to cling to life long enough for her to repair herself with Junkion parts. Unfortunately the strain of self-surgery combined with betrayal caused her mind to break, giving her multiple personalities: The new "innocent and timid" Rasp and the old "Kick-Ass and full of secrets" Rasp.

I think this character is workable, but if I didn't roll it just now, I would swear it was a borderline Mary-Sue.

>>17431100
I would imagine it to be like one of those Science Subs, only Orange.

Something kind of like this.

Thunderbird 4, Best Thunderbird.

>>17431177
I'm going with this.

Now I want to go backwards, think of an interesting alt-mode then create a Transformer around it. The rest of the Thunderbirds would be fun- and FAB 1 of course.

>>17430896
>Girlformer
>Boat

Haha! This game is already so much fun. Buzzclaw, could you post all the rules in a text file or word doc so that people don't have to go through all the greentext to understand the tables?

Bump.

>>17432800
Sorry. I'll try to upload a condensed pre-alpha rules later today.

>>17430963
I haven't written the skill descriptions yet :/

Here's a list of them tho;
-Science
-Technology
-Repair
-Negotiation
-Leadership
-Stealth
-Deduction

>>17430635
I was already thinking of guys like Devastator but I hadn't consider Sky-Lynx and the dudes from Victory.

>>17430474
The Destron/Japanicons might make an appearance in the beta fluff.

>>17430921
Very interesting. If you don't mind, I'd like to use this in the full rules once I hve the combiners worked out.

>>17430513
No wiki as of yet, just sup /tg/

>>17428651

Rare Ability Descriptions;

Extra Alt Mode
-You can transform into an additional alt mode. Select one other alt mode, you can now gain it in addition to your other alt mode(s).

Mutant Spark
-Whether through experimentation, mutation, or a freak accident, your spark is immortal. You will survive the destruction of your body and can possess other occupied or unoccupied bodies. Taking over a sparkless body is an auto-success; Taking over an occupied body requires competing Intelligence test between the Possessor and the Possessee. If the target wins the test, the possession attempt fails. If the Possessor wins the test, the attempt succeeds. The Possessee may make a Courage test every hour to eject the alien presence.

Internal Fusion Reactor
-Your systems incorporate a dangerous, powerful Fusion Reactor. You no longer need to consume Energon. You become immune to radiation damage and can redirect excess internal energy as blasts (effectively, you can never be disarmed). But you also give off an unhealthy amount of radiation. For every hour someone spends within close range to you, they must make an Endurance test. Failure mean that they take 1d10 radiation damage.

cont.

bump for more goodness

>>17433411

Portable Drones
-You have built-in storage for two small drones (detailed in the equipment section). You start play with any 2 drones for free.

Holograms, Advanced
-As Holograms, Simple except the number of Holograms you can create are equal to 2 x the tens digit of your Intelligence (i.e. 90 Intelligence means up to 18 Transformer-sized holograms). Also, the number of minutes you can remain invisble is equal to Endurance score.

Cloning, Multiple
-As Cloning, Single but you can create a number of clones equal to the ten digit of your Endurance score (i.e. 90 Endurance means up to 9 clones)

cont.

>>17433773

Extra Robot Mode
-You have an alternate robot mode. Although it share the colors and alt mode kibble of your regular robot mode, it is sufficiently different that you can pass for another individual. Your voice also changes slightly when in this hidden robot mode.

Flight
-Whether for military or recreational reasons, you are equipped with flight capabilities in robot mode (and alt mode if the GM deems it fitting).
A character with flight ignores movement penalties due to ground terrain.
>insert tables and stuff in here

End of Rare Abilities

so are you comeing out with all this stuff by yourself op?

>>17433886
Yes. The only exception is the "background" concept, which came from another anon.

bump

>>17434423
Extra bump. I'll post some more stuff in a few hours.

And another bump for you!

Just some stats I was throwing around for the 17 other Alt modes.

I was trying to net a +10 or +20 in stats or abilities gained from Alt Mode.

Thoughts?

4. Plane, Nimble (Fighters)
-Get +20 Speed and Flight, but -20 Endurance while in Alt Mode
5. Plane, Heavy (Passenger jets, Bombers)
-Get Flight and +10 Endurance, but -10 speed while in Alt Mode
6. Monster, Ground
-Get +10 Skill, +10 Strength and -10 Intelligence while in Alt Mode
7. Monster, Air
-Get Flight and +10 Speed, but -10 Endurance and -10 Intelligence while in Alt Mode
8. Monster, Sea
-Get +20 Speed only in water, -10 Intelligence and Aquatic Adaptation while in Alt Mode
9. Boat, Civilian
-Get +20 Speed only in water while in Alt Mode
10. Boat, Military
-Get +10 Speed only in water, +10 Firepower while in Alt Mode
11. Spacecraft
-Get Flight and the ability to Maneuver/Travel in the depths of Space.
12. Military Vehicle, Light (Humvees, APCs)
-Get +10 Speed, Endurance, and Firepower, but -10 Intelligence
13. Military Vehicle, Heavy (Tanks)
-Get +20 Firepower and +20 endurance, but -20 Speed and -10 Intelligence


14. Car, Truck
-Get +10 endurance and +10 Courage,
15. Car, Sedan
-Get +10 Speed and +10 Courage,
16. Car, Mini
-Get +20 Speed and +10 skill but -10 Endurance and -10 Courage
17. Car, Van
-Get +10 Speed and +10 strength
18. Trailer Truck
-Get +20 Endurance and +20 Courage, but -20 Firepower
19. Animal, Giant Sea
-Get +10 Speed only in water, +10 Strength -10 Intelligence and Aquatic Adaptation while in Alt Mode
20. Animal, Giant Air
-Get Flight and +10 to Speed and Strength but -10 to endurance and -30 to Intelligence

>>17436850
You actually nailed the vast majority of what I was going to do, especially regarding aerial/aquatic alts. I was going to make Monsters slightly stronger and stupider than animals (the "Monsters" category encompasses the Dinobots for instance). But many thanks anon.

rolled 3, 5, 3, 1, 3, 7, 4 = 26

Right, I'm just gonna roll something up and try to explain it.

rolled 18 = 18

>>17437001
-Strength 27
-Intelligence 45
-Speed 27
-Endurance 9
-Courage 27
-Firepower 63
-Skill 36

Alright, so a weak, intelligent, slow, squishy, cowardly Transformer with a big gun. Wonderful.

Rolling for Alt-Mode

rolled 1 = 1

>>17437043
So, an intelligent, but squishy Trailer Truck?
whateverfloatsyourboat.jpg

Rolling for gender.

rolled 8, 9 = 17

>>17437049
Alright, chickformer Trailer Truck. Rollin' for Colour.

rolled 5 = 5

>>17437072
White and Grey. Kind of...boring. Rolling for background.

rolled 2, 10 = 12

>>17437095
Alright, so an intelligent Medic who isn't on the frontline. Makes sense. Trailer Truck for transport capability, I guess. Rolling for Uncommon/Common abilities, in that order.

rolled 10, 6 = 16

>>17437129
Rolling for extra common abilities.

Extra Alt Mode? I'll roll for that next.

rolled 9 + 1 = 10

>>17437148
Aquatic Adaptation...on a Trailer Truck?
Why.
Just.
Why.

>>17437148
>Extra Alt Mode? I'll roll for that next.
But you can't, you need to roll an extra common ability since another 10?

>>17437165
Advanced Sensor Array, alright, makes sense. Long-Ranged fighter/medic.

And Extra Alt mode is Giant Animal?

Alright, so let's think about this. A squishy, water-adapted Trailer-Truck/Giant Animal Medic with lots of Firepower and an Advanced Sensor Array.

I can't even figure out how to justify this.

>>17428746
Uncommon Abilities

Aquatic Adaptation
-Through special sealants and selective frame-lightening, you can interact with aquatic enviroments more easily. Speed penalties for being underwater are reduced by 25% (There is usually a -50% penalty to Speed when underwater). If this ability is obtained twice, you suffer no penalty to your speed while underwater.

Multiprocessor
-You have a separate processor core dedicated to a specific task. Select one skill. While your multiprocessor is active you experience a personality change but you become incredibly focused, adding +10 to all difficulties when using the selected skill and completing task related to that skill in half the usual time. You can activate your multiprocessor as free action.

Redunant Support Systems
-You are equiped with redundant backups and supports for critical systems that keep you on you feet even when you've been blown to hell.
You ignore the Damaged and Critically Damaged conditions. Also, you are immune to critical hits.

cont.

Pleasure to contribute.

Curious:

Did you have written explanations for the common and uncommon traits like what you've spelled out for the rare traits?
i.e what dose aquatic adaptation actually mean stat wise

Further, how do skill rolls work? Are they stat dependent? what's the difference between a favored and unfavored skill roll?

>>17437203
A heavily armed deep sea emergency medical transport... it's not so much that the idea doesn't work, but you'd need to invent an unusual context for it to make sense in.

>>17437245
Aww bad readiny, my apologies
:(

>>17437278
Comes from a water-dominant planet?

>>17437203
You don't actually have to roll for alt modes.

>>17437251
Typing up uncommon abilities right now.
Skills are linked to a stat (like Leadership is linked to Courage).
Skill tests are done by rolling 1d100, success is based on the roll-under method.
Favored skills test against the full stat (so 90 Courage + Leadership as a favored skill= success on a roll of 90 or less)
Unfavored skills test against half the stat (so 90 Courage /2 for Leadership as an unfavored skill= success on a roll of 45 or less)

>>17437245

Holograms, Simple
-You have an array of holo-projectors built-in to your chasis. You can create a number of normal Transformer-sized Holograms equal to the tens digit of your Intelligence (i.e. 90 Intelligence means up to 9 Transformer-sized holograms).
At the GM's discretion, you may combine many small holograms into a large one.
You can also turn invisible, gaining complete concealment from all visual senses.
You can remain invisible for a number of equal to half of your Endurance score.
You cannot use both functions of this ability at once.

Cloning,Single
-You can create a solid-light duplicate of yourself. This duplicate can be created as an attack action. The clone has all of your stats and is absolutely, blindly loyal to you. It's max HP is equal to 25% of your HP when you create it and half of all damage dealt to the clone is also dealt to you. You can maintain a clone's existence for a number of minutes equal to the tens digit of your Endurance stat.

cont.

Taking a brief break.
Teleportation, Cerebro Shells, and Junkion coming up.

>>17437316
That works, but anything where there is a lot of underwater action will do... or alternatively, it can be an deep water recovery for wounded transformers from under or over water battles. The trailer aspect would be for hauling the wounded to the surface and from the scene. This also works if it is recovering deeps sea artifacts of whatever kind. The firepower means it would serve as a water based firing platform during battle situations and can defend itself if threatened during searching and exploration.

Salvage would be a good name for it, but that may be taken already.

>>17437640
>Salvage would be a good name for it, but that may be taken already.
But there's plenty of room for characters with the same name. Deluge, Dreadwing, and Prowl spring to mind.

>>17437484
>inb4 Teleportation out of order

Teleportation
-You are equiped with built-in transmat devices. You can teleport a number of meters equal to your Speed as a move action. You can Teleport into an area you can see or through solid objects. If you end your teleportion within a solid object, both you and the object take 1d10 x 10 damage.

Cerebro Shells
-You carry mind controlling wepon shells. You can load a Cerebro shell as an Attack action. If you successfully deal damage, You and the target make competing Intelligence tests. If you win, the target falls under your control, otherwise the shell is wasted. A controlled target is completely obediant to you to the best of its intellectual capacity. The target may make a Courage or Intelligence test every 30 minutes to break your control.

Junkion
-Your systems are surprisingly eager to except scrap and melted parts. You can theoretically be repaired using any low-grade metals or broken parts. Furthermore, all Repair tests made that target you receive +20 difficulty.

>>17437947
That's it for tonight.
Started compiling the rules into a pamphlet (?)
I shall do the Common Abilities and possibly some skills tomorrow.

rolled 10, 3, 7, 8, 6, 9, 1 = 44

awesome.

now rolling for funsies.

rolled 9 = 9

10, 3, 7, 8, 6, 9, 1

STR 90
INT 27
SPE 63
END 72
COU 54
FIR 81
SKI 9

Already sounding like a lunkheaded, reckless, trigger happy soldier grunt. Rolling for alt mode.

rolled 8 = 8

>>17438349
Dammit, rolled a d10... though the thought of a trigger happy yacht does amuse me. Aw, hell, why not.

rolled 2 = 2

wth d20

Gender here, forgot to do it last post. I guess I'm roll-retarded right now.

rolled 4, 8, 9 = 21

STR 90
INT 27
SPE 63
END 72
COU 54
FIR 81
SKI 9

HP 144

Civi boat, male. Now for the two colors and history, in that order.

>>17438458
>Skill 9
D:

>>17438393

ALL HAIL... DEATH YACHT

>>Sir Sernovid

Or, yeah, that could be a badass name too, Captcha.

I need to rethink the Skill system. The Skill stat should figure into it somehow.

rolled 7, 4, 2 = 13

>>17438458
Green/white luxury yacht. Criminal. Yeah, I can see this.

Uncommon abilities comin up

>>17438489
Good man, I christen my yacht Sir Sernovid because you made me laugh.

7- cloning, single - k.

4- redundant support systems - aw, fuck yeah

2- aquatic adaptation - THE SYSTEM KNOWS

>>17438489

this raises a deep, compelling desire in my soul to play shadowrun.

>>17438640
What have I created. Also, "sir" entitles immediate British accent.

Since SANIC didn't work so well for me, here's another Decepticreep to round things out...

NAME: Stormrider

Strength: 54
Intelligence: 90
Speed: 18
Endurance: 45
Courage: 45
Firepower: 90
Skill: 90

Alt Mode: Stealth Bomber

Gender: Male

Colors: Black with Yellow highlights

HP: 90

History: Engineer (Favored Skills: Science, Tech)

Uncommon Ability: Multiprocessor

Common Ability: Advanced Analytical Processor

I'm imagining this guy as some kind of mad decepticon weapons specialist who sits in his lab trying to find new and amazing ways of making things EXPLODE.

>>17438555
Maybe as like a check penalty sort of thing? i.e. Skill 30 - 40 = +2 on all skill checks

yeah idk, throwing ideas around.

>>17439001
atm I'm thinking;
For favored skills you can test vs the highest between the Skill stat or the connected stat (Courage for leadership)
For unfavored skills you have to pick the lowest of the two.
I guess.

>>17439068
You're going to have to flesh that out a little more, but for some reason I like where it's going.

>>17439155
To clarify my shitty writing you can choose from two stats to test against. For favored skills you get to use the best of the two, for unfavored skill you're stuck using the worst of the two.

>>17439224
Sounds cool. So where does the skill stat actually work into that equation? Unless the skill stat has to be one of the two stats that you choose.

>>17439341
The Skill stat is indeed one of the two you have to choose between.

>>17439378
Alright, I get it now. Sounds solid : )

>>17433165
Hey, sorry I wasn't here for a while.
Yeah, everything I write, gestalt spark stuff, location descriptions and such, can be used for this if you think they're up to scratch.
If you have requests, feel free to ask for them.

>>17439712
Are you the same anon who did the write-ups on Kaon and the Sonic Canyons?

>>17436850
Shouldn't boats have aquatic adaptation?

I think it's kind of strange that such a high number of the trasformers rolled have the aquatic adaptation and/or boat alt-modes.

>>17439895
Yeah, I am.

>>17439969
I agree but hey, the die don't lie

>>17439969
Boats actually will have Aquatic Adaptation. I'm thinking that boat/seaformers' AquAdaptaion only applies in alt mode. Rolling it up as separate ability means you're also adapted in robot mode.

>>17440109
Works for me

Interesting thing about War For Cybertron is it shows how different two characters using the same mold can be. The front of the hood becoming the torso in robot mode, the identical design to the legs, the 6 valve engine rising to be placed just behind the head and the engine block in front of it splitting to reveal the head.

Still, they look remarkably different due to all their little individual touches.

The same thing occurs with the leader mold.

We've got Optimus, Motormaster and Ultra Magnus, all with the basic truck form, and Transformation.
6 wheels, the 4 rear ones ending up on the back of the legs. The two larger front wheels ending up on the shoulders or near them.
The front of the truck becomes the torso, with the two windows being promenantly displayed, although the bumper is lowered to become the crotch.
The arms in vehicle mode are located between the front and rear wheels, facing upwards.

Re:Headmasters

In the Japanese Headmasters series, the Autobot Headmaster heads were human-sized robots who left Cybertron during the wars before Transformers started transforming. Instead of learning to transform their bodies and becoming giants, the headmasters built transforming bodies that they could pilot by transforming into heads or by driving the alt modes.

Different head/body combinations produced different stats for tge Headmasters, so they swapped bodies a lot. You could represent this by dividing the character stats in half between head-bot and body. When head and body are combined, the complete bot is just the sum of the two sets of stats.

Morning bump.

Material will be kinda light today. Common abilities will be up this afternoon/night.

Posting a bit of stuff I did a few months ago:

Back in the first Golden Age, Cybertronians were expected to be scientists, artists, and warriors at the same time. It was a time of polymaths and omnidisciplarians.
To make sure all cybertronians were able to fight, there was the "Trial by fire", when they were no longer protoforms, and had chosen their alt-mode, the cybertronian was led to an entrance to the ancient tunnels below the surface of cybertron.

The idea was that each candidate would spend 10 orns (a cybertronian week) down in the depths, surviving by their cunning and skills. Then they would return, and be regarded as adults.

Things were made more difficult with the emergence of the Mutants.
Cybertronian physiology is known to have a self-repair system, that when foreign metals are used in repairs, will alter their composition into the native cybertronian allies.
However, these self-repair systems can malfunction when exposed to high levels of radiation, such as those found deep within the surface of Cybertron.
The mutants are the end result of a cybertronian on their trial, spending too long, too deep within the surface, their self-repair systems stop adapting the repaired materials, leaving them in their original format, rendering their bodies horrifying junkheaps, with random wheels, limbs, or other parts hanging off.

>>17443749
Lacking any method of reproduction, the mutants would capture those on their trial by fire, drag them down into the deeps, until their systems had corroded and turned them into mutants as well.

During the Warlord Period, after the end of the first Golden Age, the Trial by Fire was banned by the warlord Gladiaron, who was enraged by the loss of his warriors in such a manner.

In the place of the Trials, he instituted brutal arena fights, which although destructive, rarely resulted in death.
The cybertronians named these arena bouts "Gladitorial combat" in his honour, and he is regarded as an ancestor of the modern Decepticon movement.

As for the mutants? With the source of new recruits gone, they began sending small raiding groups to the surface, snatching what cybertronians they could find, usually preying on those alone, or too weak to resist.

>>17443757
>>17443749
Wow. That's pretty nifty. It even helps to explain why enlightened cities like Iacon have Gladiators. Nice touch with Gladiaron too.

Out of curiosity, how are planning to deal with weapons and the like?

The simplest way I can think of doing is to set it up so that each body part has at least one, perhaps two, 'mod' slots for customization. That way, a ranged weapon could be mounted on the shoulder or on the arms, and could even be damaged during combat, leading to penalties. Alternatively, a mod could also add extra abilities or improve existing ones - head mounted slots could be filled with a holographic projector or a sensor mod, which improve ranged damage.

>>17444086
Weapons were going to be kinda rules-lite. Every PC comes with a ranged weapon that can be disarmed and a melee weapon that can't be disarmed. There will be an equipment section tho, and it will include drones, tools, and unusual weapons like Cliffjumpers bigass bazoooka.

>>17438970
Looks like Crusader Alpha has a mad scientist to play his white (black) knight against.

Rollan for Uncommon Ability Table.

I pick Leadership and Stealth as skills if that's the full list.

Also, >>17424760
>>17423713
>>17423506
>>17423319
is me.

rolled 4, 1, 9 = 14

>>17444318
One of these days I'm going to get the field right on the first try.

>>17444351
>>17444351
The fact that you didn't get Aquatic Adaptation is promising.

rolled 2 = 2

>>17444351

But ... I don't want to be a Junkion ...

Sigh. Rollan on common ability chart.
I must question why rolling a ten makes you roll on the common ability chart rather than the rare one. Surely 9 is the best you can roll other than 10.

>>17444431
Energy efficient. Okay. I can live with this.

Still butthurting over Junkions though. The fact that every Transformer of Criminal background (or rather every transformer that rolls on the uncommon abilities table) has a 10% chance of being a Junkion seems a little off. The junkions were REALLY uncommon and only in G1 IIRC.

>>17444458
Junkions aren't literal bahweepgrahnahweepminibong Junkions. It just means you can rebuild yourself using old busted stuff instead of refined technology.
Like the Cartoon Combaticons could theoretically have the Junkion ability since they were built using old abandoned military vehicles.
But your complaint has been noted.

>>17444534
Okay, I can live with that.

Perhaps a different name, and use Junkions as an example of some people that have it?

1d10 x 9 seems like an awfully big randomized range. If you roll a 1 on skill and get 10 skill to start you'll have a hard time hitting anything, whereas if you luck out with a 9 on character creation then you'll never miss.

Considering this looks like a percentile dice system I'd suggest changing stat generation so it gives a range of 30 - 60 instead of 10 - 90.

>>17444534
Posible changes to abilities;
-Removal of AquAdapt, Junkion, Cerebro-Shells, and Portable Drones
-Revision of 10 result for ability tables
--Common: Roll on Uncommon table
--Uncommon: Roll on Rare table
--Rare: Roll twice on Rare table

>>17444628

Personally I don't think it's just that you can roll a 1 and get only 10. It's also that you can roll a 9. Like I said, it's a good idea to try and moderate the range.

>>17444599
The formula mainly exists for ease of NPC conversion.

For example, Blitzwing;
Strength 8
Intelligence 5
Speed 9
Endurance 8
Courage 7
Firepower 7
Skill 7

Multiply those tech spec numbers by nine...
Strength 72
Intelligence 45
Speed 81
Endurance 72
Courage 63
Firepower 63
Skill 63

>>17444580
>Different name
Scrap-master? Hybrid Systems?

rolled 10, 10, 7, 1, 4, 9, 5 = 46

Here i go

rolled 3 = 3

rerolling for endurance

>>17444736
I might implement a "mercy rule" for stat generation.
Something like;
-if you roll a 2 or 1 when generating your ability scores, you may re-roll that die.

>>17444736
Hybrid systems sounds good.
Versatile construction?
Universal Manufacturing?
Standardised Joints?

>>17444534
Fun thing is, according to the shattered glass fiction, most of the repair work is done by their repair systems. The replacement limb or organ is absorbed by the body.

“Basic Cybertronian medical science,” Starscream replied as he continued Blitzwing’s examination.
“Introduce non-living plastics or metals into the body, the surrounding systems break them down, rebuild them into Cybertronian technomatter, and integrate them into the larger mechanism. We break a rotator or slip a gear, we can replace it, and after a short while it becomes living circuitry like the rest of us.”
[...]
Arkeville nodded. “Like human flesh converting sterile coral into living bone.”


As such, maybe use something like "Repair Nanites" or something.

>>17444934
Love the Star Trek explanation at the end there.

>>17444918
Scavenger?
Emergency Repairs?

>>17444952
Yeah, even though it's not the most commonly known practice, and seriously awesome.

Repostan my updated sheet as an elaborate bump.

>Name: Crusader Alpha
>Altmode: Lockheed SR-71 Blackbird
(Plane, Nimble? Spacecraft?)
90 Strength
90 Intelligence
90 Speed
72 Endurance
63 Courage
9 Firepower (Maybe reroll)
63 Skill

>Criminal:
Paranoia
Lone Gunbot

>Skills:
Leadership, Stealth.

>Abilities:
Redundant Support Abilites
Junkion/Hybrid Systems
Energy Efficient (Maybe reroll on Rare Ability Table)

Thansformers: The Rollout?

More locations!

Vos and Tarn are two city states with a long and entwined history.
Vos was an orbital state, a miracle of scientific research, it hovered above cybertron's surface, visable for miles around as a shining beacon of intellectualism. Inhabited almost entirely of cybertronians with aerial alternate modes, the city was often regarded as a haven for the elite, or those who thought themselves that.
Tarn on the other hand, was a martial state, ruled by those strong in arms, and those harsh in temperment.
Many of its populace joined the elite guard, and even it's auxiliary troopers were easily spotted by the cyclopean helmets they wore.

Due to their contrasting civic attitudes, and their neighbouring borders, it was only natural that Vos and Tarn would fight. With border clashes between Vos' Elite Seeker squadrons, and Tarns Wrecker garrisons causing the other city states to become anxious, a forced peace was imposed upon them by Iacon. Proposing that the ill feeling between both states be channeled into a series of Gladitorial and Athletic matches. These "Intercity-state games" or "State Games" for short, became major tourist attractions, and ampitheatres were soon set up in every city state to attempt to replicate them.

>>17445704
During the rise of the Decepticons, the twin cities met with unfortunate fates.
In the midst of the State Games, photonic missiles from Tarn's military command center were fired directly at Vos' reactor center.
The orbital city's shields failed to intercept the missiles, causing the reactor to suffer a catastrophic meltdown, this chain reaction resulted in the city of Vos plumeting down to crush Tarn.
Later investigation, backed up with first hand survivor testimony suggests that both the attack, and Vos' descent trajectory were preplanned, deliberately to take out both city states.
The Decepticons were quick to blame Iacon, and seized the ruins of the cities to place them under their "protection", with the Scientist and Military Commander Shockwave becoming their joint govener.

A few survivors of both the attacks, and Shockwave's crackdowns afterwards, drifted north, to Iacon. Becoming the formation of both the Aerialbots, and the Wreckers sub-factions. Although traditional rivals, both are so intently anti-decepticon that they have put their pasts behind them.

Name: Back blast
Gender: male
-Strength 90
-Intelligence 80
-Speed 73
-Endurance 37
-Courage 36
-Firepower 91
-Skill 50

HP: 74

Alt mode: Military Armored vehicle

Colors: Grey and blue

History: Sentry

Ability's
Common: Internal tools

Uncommon: Multiprocessor

Rare: Internal fusion reactor

>>17445794
HA ... Back blast ...

Name: (I wish I could think of one.)
Gender: female
-Strength 90
-Intelligence 54
-Speed 63
-Endurance 90
-Courage 27
-Firepower 81
-Skill 90

HP: 180

Alt mode: Military Vehicle, Light

Colors: Red and Teal

History: Commoner

Abilities:
Utilitarian Frame
Advanced Analytical Processor
Communication Hub

The dice gods more or less love me when I'm creating a character, as long as it'll never see gameplay. So she's a far from brave commoner, but a total beast if forced into combat. I can live with this.

>>17446179
Hmm, female... military communications.
How about "Switchboard", in reference to the communications workers who joined the Signal Corps. Commonly known as "Hello Girls".

>>17446291
Switchboard is an awesome name.
How about something like "Uplink?" or "Comsat?"

>>17446056
i saw what you did there and i approve

Alright. One more, and this one's going to be an autobot. I can't believe how much fun I'm having rolling up robot toy dudes.

Strength: 90
Intelligence: 9
Speed: 18
Endurance: 90
Courage: 63
Firepower: 81
Skill: 36

Alt Mode: Trailer Truck (+20 END/COUR, -20 FIRE)
Type: Cybertronian truck/big ass Mack truck

History: Soldier

Gender: Male

Body Colors: Green on Green (Camo?)

Favored Skill: Throwing Stuff

Abilities: Simple Holograms, Junkion

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you BACKBREAKER. I figure he was once a lot smarter than he is now, only some Decepticon captured him for an experiment to see how much of a 'bot's brain could be removed and still be functional. I guess he's just given routine guarding duties right now because of his... shortcomings. He also talks in one-word sentences, like "GUARD," "HI," "YEAH," and, when he's mad, "PURPLEFACE!" Also, he likes throwing bots. A lot.

... I REALLY want to play Backbreaker now.

>>17446470
I love it, but instead of one-word answers he should talk in short military phrases.

Every question is answered with "ROGER!" "NO SIR!" or "YES DRILL SAR-GENT!"

That said, I am totally down whenever you need a test-player. I'll keep my eye on the boards.

>>17446499

Nah. I'm thinking of him more of a gentle Frankenstein creature who doesn't quite get anything.

"Shit, Decepticons at the front door. We need a distraction if we're going to get in."

"OKAY."

"Backbreaker, what're you-"

"THROW"

And that was how Backbreaker invented Cybertronian bowling.

You know, I'm a bit suprised that, given this is /tg/, there hasn't been an attempt at using the Dark Heresy rules as a base.
I mean, the stats work pretty well. Strength for Strength, Intelligence for Intelligence, Toughness for Endurance, Agility for Speed, Willpower for Courage.
The others are slightly less easy, but I could easily see Weapon Skill being skill, Ballistic Skill for Firepower. Fellowship and Perception don't have any obvious stand ins.

>>17446538
He can still go all military mindset when receiving orders from superiors. And he should follow them as well as he knows how, that would keep him from being dangerously random all the time. Of course him taking things too literally and things like what you described keeps him being fun.

>>17446538
Hah, believe it or not, that exists.
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Cybertronian_sport#Lobbing
Seriously.

i want to play this. Right the fudge now.

>>17446291
>>17446367
And now I have too many great options to choose from!
This is why I love you guys.

>>17446538
Okay, that DOES sound awesome. I take it back.>>17446630
You're welcome, bro.

Can we choose what our alignment can be?

1] Take Battletech
2] Incorporate LAM transforming rules for all types
3]?
4] A ready made TF RPG

>>17446849
Yes, faction allegiance is up to the players.

So here's what I think we're missing so far:

>System for determining actions/skills
>Skills
>Weapons (types, damage, range, special types, etc)
>Armor (???)
>Fluff, because I know you guys wanna write about your characters, because that's what /tg/'s best at.

Any other suggestions?

>>17447156
Uhm... combiners? You know that Constructicons and all that. Seems hard to balance but it could be fun.

>>17447156
Alt Modes need more statting
Random equipment/gadgets
Enviromental Conditions
And mabe a Flaws system.

There actually is quite a bit of fluff in the last thread, and this thread has lots of stuff by Fluffanon.

>>17447339

Hrrrrm. Well, in that case, I can start by at least throwing in some weapons... let's see...

>http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Category:Generation_1_weapons

Whoafuck. I forsee a spreadsheet with dice values in our near future, gentlemen.

>>17447396
If weapons must be defined (not sure they do) I reckon it'd be easy to narrow them down into broad catagories like "Laser," "Missile" or "Stick for hitting people."

>>17447396

Okay. The way I see it, weapons are broken down into a few major types:

1. Pistols - Usually used by smaller cons/bots, probably don't have a lot of punch and don't aim well, but a high rate of fire.
2. Rifles - Used by bigger bots and can either be hand-held or attached to the frame. More damage but slower to fire.
3. Grenade Launchers - Same as rifles, but can be loaded with acid pellets, incendiary pellets, darkness pellets, etc... basically, area of effect weapons. Low rate of fire.
4. Cannons - BIG GUNS. Slow to fire and slow to recharge, but you don't have to aim so much as point it at the target and watch it disappear.
5. Special Weapons - Weapons like the glass ray, goo gun, anti-thermal cannon, fog missile, or anything that doesn't do damage outright but hampers enemy movement.
6. Melee Weapons - Swords, axes, flails, whips, what have you.

I figure every character should have at least one ranged weapon and one melee weapon that are "part" of their frame, and additional weapons can be attached and/or carried. What say you?

>>17447499

Also, I say the higher a person's firepower is, the more weapons they can have slaved to their system without major overload or something. So a courier bot with a firepower of 36 might be able to have three weapon "slots", but a tank with a firepower of 90 might have nine. The bigger the weapon, the bigger the slot it takes up. Pistols and rifles take up one slot, grenade launchers and special weapons two, cannons three, and melee none.

Buzzclaw; you are a king among men. This is FANTASTIC. I will gladly help you playtest the hell out of this thing and eagerly look forward to the "Operating Manual".

>>17447535
>>17447499
How 'bout shields ...?

Y'know ... because I know a bunch of people that aren't me totally would like one.

>>17447554

Sure! Maybe someone could sacrifice a weapons slot for extra armor or a shield or something? Like, 1 slot used for armor translates into +20 temporary hitpoints?

>>17447499
Great ideas here. As for the built-in ranged weapon, maybe the player could apply a template to boost damage or increase the number of attacks per round.

>>17447543
Thanks. It's not all my work tho, especially on the some fluff. Playtesting should be soon, maybe next week?

>>17447554
Shields weren't ever that common if I recall. Most Cybertronians were content to shoot each other, and those that did engage in extended melee either knew how to block and dodge or they died horrible deaths.

Extra armor I could see, though.

>>17447682
Well I'm still impressed. And I'm always around; I work from home so it's not like I don't have access to a computer(except Wednesday nights when I hit the LGS).

>>17447682

BACKBREAKER PLAY

WANT HURT PURPLEFACES

Also, thanks. I still like the idea of "slots," by the way. These are robots who integrate things into them instead of carrying around backpacks, so having "slots" to fill would be a big bonus for customization/weapons/carrying new equipment/combining with other bots?

>>17447499
Default weaponry is acceptable if it based on the characters history.
>>17447554
I think shields should count as a off hand add on

>captcha: rummft parts

>>17447723

Alright, how about: Soldiers, Sentries, Spies and Criminals get default ranged weapons they don't have to pay a slot/equipment space/"creds" for, and everyone starts off with a "built-in" melee weapon as part of Cybertron's long and martial history (and to make sure they're not completely defenseless in case of being robomugged.)

>>17447715
Yeah, slots would be really good. It also allows for arm mounted weapons like Megatron's fusion cannon.

Here; have some Ecto-1 awesomeness.

>>17447691
Just because something isn't common doesn't mean it should be in the game.
It should just be uncommon.

Pictured: A Shield made out of a car roof (and glass. Figure that one out.)

Hey, do we have a name for this game yet? I vote for:

TRANSFORMATIC!

>>17447825
Awesome

>>17447881
Good point. I was just having a rough time recalling shields being used outside the new films(and even then I can only recall Optimus using one in DotM).

>>17447881

I'm cool with shields. More than one autobot's had one. Maybe they're a special type of armor that gives, say, a great bonus to your HP, but since it's so intrinsic to a character, it permanently eats up two slots and can't be removed. That way you can get a kick-ass shield, but it doesn't unbalance the game too much.

>>17447825
I don't think all weapons should be relegated to "backup" status, though. They should be equal/have some advantage compared to guns.

Show the Nunchuck-users some love.

>>17447926
Melee is usually a back-up, though. When you have laser guns you generally want to kill stuff from a distance before the sword swinging weirdo has a chance to get to you.

Now of course that all depends on the character, as you're saying. I think being able to take a retractable arm blade would be tits.

>>17447825
Good ideas. Maybe each of those backgrounds might also have restrictions on weapon types?
Also, concerning body slots, the ones that appear most in-fiction are
--Arms
--Shoulder/Back
Fort Max has leg guns but those are kinda unique.

>>17447956
Good tits or bad tits?

'cause Magnaboss considers the Megaton Battle Sword to be Good tits.

>>17447958
Fort Max is also HUGE. Arms, shoulders and back should be the most common regardless of body size. Could also have a head slot for extra equipment like communications gear or whatever.

Leg's could still be used by having small slots which can store pistols and small weapons a la Robocop.

>>17447958

You're reading my mind, OP.

Okay. So: You have the same number of "slots" for weapons as your firepower / 9. Pistols/Rifles = 1 slot each, Grenade Launches/Special/Extra Armor = 2 slots each, Big Cannons = 3 slots each, first melee weapon's free, additional melee weapons = 1 slot each, and extra slots are usually relegated to the back and arms.

Also, weapons restrictions:

Commoners: Pistol/Rifle only
Nobles: Pistol/Special only
Sentry: Pistol/Rifle/Special only
Politician: Pistol/Rifle/Cannon only
Medtech: Pistol/Special only
Engineer: Rifle/Special/Cannon only
Soldier: All weapons
Spy: Pistol/Special only
Criminal: Pistol/Rifle/Cannon only

I'm not sure I like the above list, but it's a start.

>>17448001
Good tits. Like you get into a jam and you're stuck in melee and BOOM! A blade pops out of your arm and you shank someone.

On second thought, instead of detailing the Common Abilities I'm gonna try to compile most of the shit we already have.

>Transformers; The Transformening
Should be "Transformers; The Disguisening"

>>17448041
So is it just a set number of slots based on the stat, or are there certain numbers of slots you can have in certain places? Like you only have so many slots for arm mounted stuff, and so many for back mounted stuff?

>>17448130

Honestly, I would say it's more of a personal preference, since it doesn't seem like the location of the slots would be a huge deal in game play. Unless we're specifically statting different areas of the body. In which case, we've got a LOT of crunching to do.

>>17448166
I would rather not do that level of crunch tbh.

Quick fluff question; Should the Go-Bots be part of the Pre-History era?

>>17448166
Hmmmm, good point. I was just curious. Either way really works to me.

>>17448191

CY-KILLLLLL

Eh, I could go either way, op. On the one hand, it'd be funny to have the PCs make Go-bot related slurs, but on the other, the Go-bot stuff may detract from the setting. Your call, OP

So my thought is to award some kind of generic abstracized "points" for completing adventures etc. Maybe not as consistent or plentiful as experience points, but something to that effect. And let people "buy" upgrades for their characters when they reach a sufficient amount of points. Possibly upgrade base stats, buy a new ability/perk or buy a new addon/armor/weapon/built-in-doodah?

I was thinking of maybe calling them" Robot Points" after

http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Robot_Point

My apologies if something along this line has already been discussed, I haven't had time to thoroughly read the entire archive yet.

>>17448191
>Go-Bots
No, just god no.

>>17448217

Nah, we haven't discussed it yet. But we're still working on a system, so XP should probably come a little later until we figure out how big the power creep's gonna be.

Ok weapons seems to fitting but what about frame upgrades? Such as extra armor or power boost.

>>17448392
Whenever I see that all I can ever hear is the song playing in this video at 8:02.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWom2mqs1Sg&feature=plcp&context=C3d5afaaUDOEgsToPDskKftAXBJY
2b1Sf14imlZtUR

>>17448521
Oops, closer to 8:08.

>>17448518

Well, like I said, extra armor can be put into slots for, I dunno, 20 extra hp per two slots. Maybe additional armor can be added on later? As for power boosts... I got nothing. Suggestions?

>>17448569
Well what kind of power boost we talking about? Something like a sudden surge of strength do deal some extra damage in melee or something like a burst of speed in vehicle mode?

I return with my death yacht

>>17448041
I feel like the Med needs a little something more, but that may just be me.

>>17448616
Well their medics, so they won't be full on fighters. Pistols seems about right. However, I will agree that maybe they also get rifles. Commoners should be limited to pistols and then able to get other stuff illegally.

Your basic soldier would be carrying a rifle and a pistol.

>>17448660
>they're
Fuck me I can't type tonight.

>>17448616

DEAAAAATH YAAAAAAAACHT

Hrm. I'd say boost up the medtech with some extra skill points, but we haven't even GOTTEN to skills, soooo...

>Togyalk Jack,

When you arrive, Captcha creates the most amazing names.

>>17448660
Include a slight penalty for Medtech Rifle checks or some kind of related bonus for the fighter classes?

>>17448685
We all have our nights

>>17448692
yo
Backbreaker sounds kinky + I'm liking the camo colors idea, haha

>>17448754

I'll leave it to someone else, since I've kinda hijacked the thread. I'll just focus on the weapons for now. Anybody else have any ideas?

>>17448754
Yeah. Medics aren't going to be quite as crack shots as a front line soldier. They know how to use a rifle to fight if they need to, but their primary programming is to fix the wounded. They basically get the minimal training to use their weapons, just enough to survive when shit hits the fan.

I might switch my history to soldier maybe there can be a perk for soldiers to have one extra weapon slot

>>17448986
I think once skills are done there'll be a lot more to work off of thematically.

Quick Survey for evaluation purposes;

Which mechanics/ideas seem near-perfect?

Which mechanics/ideas seem disjointed/half-baked?

>>17449038
I suggest extending the list of skills, or at least posting an updated version with descriptors/perks/penalties for the preexisting skills. Need help with that or do you have it covered?

>>17449038

The character creation is good and solid, although I'd like more special abilities to choose from. Say, 20 each instead of 10.

Other than that, I'm just waiting on the system itself.

>>17449082
Kinda have it covered. I don't have it typed but I have a reasonably clear idea of the skills and skill system. I wonder if I should change the name from "skills" to "talents" so that they can't be confused with the Skill stat.

>>17449116
Or "Programs" if you want to go all robotic about it.

>>17449116
Yeah, I was getting a bit confused on that point.

>>17449134
I like this. Programs, Specials, or Talents. Any of em would work.

>>17449110
The Problem is that it's hard to come up with/find abilities :(

>>17449227
I'll brainstorm somethin : )

A quick mock-up for the NPC Stat block;

Gladiaron
Era:
Allegiance:
Function:
Background:
Stats:
Favored Skills:
Equipment/Gear:

Bio:

Good format y/n?

>>17449227
I wish I could be of more help but my brain is fried tonight for some reason(probably from typing a whole bunch of rules for my own wargame earlier so I could get it uploaded in the Homebrew thread we had).

Some obvious programs, talents, what-have-yous would be stuff like Sniper, Commander, Infiltration(for those spies out there), and stuff like that.

>>17449273
derp, forgot Abilities.

>>17449245
Thanks!

>>17449293
There's always tomorrow.

>>17449327
Tomorrow night for me. I'll be spending most of the day down at the LGS playing some Dystopian Wars with my new stuff I just got.

Anyway I think I'm calling it a night. Keep on truckin' fellas.

>>17449038
Maybe "Junkion" should be renamed "Replaceable Parts"

Perhaps the Skill stat could be used for special weapons or advantages that don't do damage?

We should have some special rules for taking advantages, weapons, and integrated equipment from one Transformer to another. I remember OP and Megs used the weapons and abilities of their followers from time to time, and there was at least one Decipticon who took special weapons as trophies.

I think that each background should have a semi-exclusive list of special weapons/equipment to start off with and better reflect what they are supposed to be able to do. A commoner could still pick up a solider gun, but her systems aren't optimized for use.

Maybe make a few random advantage lists for everyone, then a few smaller list for backgrounds to roll for?

I need suggestions for Major Pre-History NPCs.
I need 10 Bots and 10 Cons so far I have;

>Bots
-Alpha Trion/A3

>Cons
-Murdron
-Ghoulon

Any suggestions are appreciated, and I will accept suggestions based on Microman, Diaclone, Japanese G1 or knockoffs.

>>17449375
>Maybe make a few random advantage lists for everyone, then a few smaller list for backgrounds to roll for?
I think this is doable.

>>17449327
Aaaand here's what I got so far. People, feel free to switch things around, rename things, etc.

RARE ABILITY TABLE
1-Roll on the Uncommon Ability table instead
2-Extra Alt Mode
3-Mutant Spark
4-Internal Fusion Reactor
5-Portable Drones
6-Holograms, Advanced
7-Cloning, Multiple
8-Extra Robot Mode
9-Flight
10-
11-
12-Bolstered Direct Impact
13-
14-Extra Beast Mode
15-Improved Shield Regenerator
16-
17-
18-
19-
20-Roll twice on this table, ignoring further results of 10

UNCOMMON ABILITY TABLE
1-Roll on the Uncommon Ability table instead
2-Aquatic Adaptation
3-Multiprocessor
4-Redundant Support Systems
5-Teleportation
6-Holograms, Simple
7-Cloning,Single
8-Cerebro Shells
9-Junkion
10-Sparkseeking Technology
11-Improved Biology Scanner
12-Internal Systems Firewall
13-Eagle Eye
14-Acrobatics
15-
16-Backup Shield Blast
17-Automatic Aim
18-Systems Reboot
19-
20-Roll twice on this table, ignoring further results of 20

COMMON ABILITY TABLE
1-Roll on the Uncommon Ability table instead
2-Energy-Efficient
3-Gyro-Stabilizers
4-Internal Tools
5-Communication Hub
6-Utilitarian Frame
7-Extra Limbs
8-Advanced Analytical Processor
9-Advanced Sensor Array
10-
11-Advanced Armor
12-Looter
13-Cooling Rigs
14-
15-Gunslinger
16-Propulsion Boost
17-Sharpshooter
18-
19-Extra Treading
20-Roll twice on this table, ignoring further results of 20

>>17449778
Looks good man.

If we still need a generic name for Junkion, how about Scrap Adaption? Or Scrap Adapter, something like that.

>>17450057
What say you, Buzzclaw?

>>17450224
Junkion should be changed to Hybrid System or
Universal Compatability.

>>17450313
I rather like Universal Compatibility. Finishing up the ability tables after a quick shower. In the meantime, have some over the top beefed out Bayformers Optimus concept art.

>>17450706
Sphess Mahreenus Prhame.
GIANT SHOULDERS
tiny head

Working on NPC section for compiled rulebook atm. Having a lot of flow with Pre-History dudes, might need help with Golden Age guys.
Do you guys prefer Galvatron as a reformatted Megs or as a separate dude?

>>17449778
I was doubting Extra Beast Mode but now I think that it can be used for Transformers whose robot mode is animalistic (Beastbox, TFA Blot)

Does anyone else think at this point we just need to make a generic ruleset called "X; the Xening"?

>>17450770
halp i've been swallowed by my own body and i can't get up

Also, I'm not the one to answer that. Everything pre-Michael Bay (I know, I know) is really fuzzy for me, and I never refreshed.

Can abilities be leveled up? Askin because I'm gettin a lot of repeat abilities for the uncommon and rare tables, i.e. shielding, then advanced shielding.

>>17450770
I never really cared for Galvatron. But I am a sucker for G1.

I'm OK with them being separate if only for the sake of keeping Megs around. I know they did some time travel shenanigans in the comics so it's not far off.

>>17451011
>Can abilities be leveled up?
Within reason, yes. Some abilities don't make sense when doubled up (Universal Compatability, Redundant Support Systems).
Others do.

>>17451137
Gotcha.

>>17451137
Oh, I just thought of a few abilities.

(Un)Common (depending on era):
Eating. The ability to turn raw material into Energon. Most Transformers have to ingest processed Energon or fuel, but a few have internal power plants capable of converting many types of organic mater into fuel directly. Can be ranked up once to include inorganic mater, and the ability to be "milked" for fuel.

Examples: Insecticons, Maximals, Predicons.

Rare:
Energon Cubes: The ability to process and store energy in a convenient cube form for use as fuel or an improvised explosive weapon.

Examples, Soundwave.

Posting brief list of the Pre-History Characters I have so far;
>Bots
-A3/Alpha Trion
-Guardian Prime
>Cons
-Cyclotron
-Deszaras
-Devron
-Ghoulon
-Murdron

>>17451296
I like this. Imma gonna go to sleep now. Hopefully the thread won't 404.

>>17451393
Night!

>>17451296
Put those in the list. I just need one more for rare...

>>17451619
What about those built in energy based melee weapons like prime had? Where do those fit in?

>>17451677
I believe that's more or less up to the character's maker than the abilities. It was established here >>17448041
that there are bare types of weapons.

>>17447499
And here.

Done. Also saving this on my end.

RARE ABILITY TABLE
1-Roll on the Uncommon Ability table instead
2-Extra Alt Mode
3-Mutant Spark
4-Internal Fusion Reactor
5-Portable Drones
6-Holograms, Advanced
7-Cloning, Multiple
8-Extra Robot Mode
9-Flight
10-Time Field Warp
11-Cloaking
12-Bolstered Direct Impact
13-Energon Cube Compressor
14-Extra Beast Mode
15-Collision Dispersion Field
16-Improved Shield Regenerator
17-Immunity
18-Power Leech
19-Hover Tech
20-Roll twice on this table, ignoring further results of 10

UNCOMMON ABILITY TABLE
1-Roll on the Common Ability table instead
2-Aquatic Adaptation
3-Multiprocessor
4-Redundant Support Systems
5-Teleportation
6-Holograms, Simple
7-Cloning,Single
8-Cerebro Shells
9-Universal Compatability
10-Sparkseeking Technology
11-Improved Biology Scanner
12-Internal Systems Firewall
13-Eagle Eye
14-Acrobatics
15-Raw Fuel Processor
16-Backup Shield Blast
17-Automatic Aim
18-Hypersensitive Reflexes
19-Flashbang
20-Roll twice on this table, ignoring further results of 20

COMMON ABILITY TABLE
1-Roll on the Uncommon Ability table instead
2-Energy-Efficient
3-Gyro-Stabilizers
4-Internal Tools
5-Communication Hub
6-Utilitarian Frame
7-Extra Limbs
8-Advanced Analytical Processor
9-Advanced Sensor Array
10-Systems Reboot
11-Advanced Armor
12-Looter
13-Cooling Rigs
14-Tech Barrier
15-Gunslinger
16-Propulsion Boost
17-Sharpshooter
18-Detection
19-Extra Treading
20-Roll twice on this table, ignoring further results of 20

>transformers game
>transformers art everywhere

>>17451698
>>17451740
Alright, I was thinking an ability might be considered as a bonus slotless weapon, but I guess it's unneeded. Not quite good enough for rare anyway... I have another idea though: back in G1 megatron and soundwave had the ability to greatly change their size and weight into something a human could carry. Granted that might be too silly to bring in, but it could be fun.

>>17451748
>20-Roll twice on this table, ignoring further results of 10
>10
That should say 20 on the end, right?

>>17448569
>>17448518
If the "slots" count for Armour/Melee weapons as well as guns, maybe it'd be best to base them on something other than firepower.
1) Characters like poor old Alpha are still very capable in melee but can't get more armour/melee weapons because of the firepower stat.
2) This will mean the characters that are dealing the most damage with their guns also have a massive amount of guns. Slightly unfair, I think.

Just a thought. I'm no good at making up rules, so I'll elave it to you guys.

>>17451766
Yes, thanks for the catch

Okay, ideas for history/lineage things.

A potential list of the Dynasty of Primes.

- Prima (The first prime. Prehistoric era)

- Alpha Prime (The Prime at the start of the first golden age. Alpha Trion claims him as an ancestor)
- Guardian Prime (During the first golden age, the Quintessons attempt to invade (again?). Guardian Prime leads the army to drive them off. He is killed by an uprising of minicons in powered armour called "Transtectors", led by the scientist Gigatron. The matrix is lost, and with it the Golden Age ends.)

The Warlord period, records are slim, and often contradictory, but some known warlords include:
- Gladiaron (Who begins the practice of Gladitorial combat.)
- Deathsaurus (Who developed the first combiners, and used them to crush his foes.)
- Dai Atlas (Who, when his holdings were destroyed, took his band of followers and left cybertron, to build his own civilization)
- Tyrannis (Who seized the temple of knowledge at Tyger Pax, and built an empire of ashes around it.)
- Devron (Leader of the Destrons, who crushed all who stood before him, and made an army which almost conquered cybertron before he was defeated by...)

- Nova Prime (First of the new Primes, creator of the second golden age.)
- Nominus Prime (Made Iacon the capitol of cybertron's city states.)
- Zeta Prime (A symbol of the decadence of the second golden age, he was eventually defeated in the great Decepticon uprisings.)
- Sentinel Prime (A warrior prime, managed to keep the Decepticons from conquering the northern provinces of Cybertron, but was eventually killed in battle)
- Optimus Prime (The so-called Last Prime. Unites the free city states of Cybertron in the Autobot League)

>>17451748
Wow, Might be time to re-roll with those tables soon.

rolled 6, 6, 9, 9, 9, 9, 7 = 55

>>17452478
And I think I'll try my hand at it. Rollan stats.

rolled 17 = 17

>>17452625
Whoa... that's... pretty good. I think I've got a badass in the making here. Let's see how the rest pans out.

Strength 54
Intelligence 54
Speed 81
Endurance 81
Courage 81
Firepower 81
Skill 64

rolled 1 + 2 = 3

>>17452648
>Car, Van
Not the most heroic vehicle type but it can work.
Gender and body colors.

rolled 3, 1 = 4

>>17452660
Eh? Not used to using dice here, no idea why that happened.

Let's say gender male, trying color again.

>>17452663
You rolled a 1 on a d2. Then added 2 to it.

So you rolled a girlformer.

rolled 1 = 1

Blue and Red. Stylin. Background roll.

>>17452686
Oh. Well that's cool too. But that reminds me, aren't female bots supposed to be relatively rare? Something way less than 50% certainly. Not sure how or if that should be reflected in the generator though.

rolled 20, 19, 12 = 51

>>17452704
Commoner, I like it good for a civy van. Rolling common skills.

rolled 4, 1 = 5

>>17452717
Extra Treading, Looter and two more rolls!

rolled 7 = 7

>>17452721
Internal Tools and an Uncommon roll.

>>17452704
The only number I could find places 1/13th, at most, of all Transformers as female.

But then again a female transformer can look and/or "act" like a male transformer (or vice versa), and transformers use other means of reproduction. So a gender label has about as much importance to them as a middle name has to us. It's just kind of there.

>>17452756
Gender really only comes down to voice, if that.
I mean, look at the top row, all epitomes of the female form.
And below them, macho male transformers with obviously male characteristics.

rolled 10 = 10

>>17452726
>Cloning, single.
Damn, son.

Now I need to choose a favored skill and figure out how to fit the rest together. What is internal tools and looting supposed to, and where is the list of skills? Or are we just making this up.

I'm leaning towards some kind of outspoken strong willed wrenchmonkey girlformer. The robot mode should imply the shape of overalls, hah!

>>17452756
I leaning towards it not being a roll at all, just choose it. In the end it's just fluff anyway.

>>17452843
You know, originally Ratchet was going to be a greasewrench spannermonkey girl with attitude.
It's a damn shame that hasbro said no females to start with.

>>17423169
Are you referring to the Transformers Animated show where they originally were going ot have a Female Red Alert as the medic, instead of a Grumpy War Vet Ratchet?

>>17453453
Nope, G1 Ratchet. Hence the name, which is a reference to Nurse Ratchet from one flew over the cukoo's nest.

I just noticed there are like 6 different car alt-modes, and no "Tool/weapon" Alt-mode.

I think there were enough cassettes, tape decks, guns, cannons, cameras, and microscopes to justify such an alt-mode.

Maybe have it replace one of the cars? Do we need both a Fast and a Racing Car?

But I think this thread has reached the limit.

>>17454200
The problem with that is turning into a small, immobile device, isn't going to be one most players will be happy with.

>>17454537
>>17454200
Yup. Nailed it on the head. I'm just going with the idea that the "extra alt mode" ability is where you can have your former turn into a small, mostly immobile device.

>>17454591
How about Extra Alt Mode offers the player a choice between
-Gaining a second Alt Mode (Triplechangers)
or
-A small, immobile Alt Mode.

>>17452115
Nice. Might change some things up, but definitely using it.

>>17454200
Checking to see where we're at.

Glad to see this hasn't 404'd yet.

How're things coming?

>>17455011
Welp, looks like auto-sage.

New thread;
>>17455058