>>17862317
Ask the goddesses of the three bearers of the Triforce, doomed to reincarnate forever more.
Did they begin as the goddess Hylia, her champion, and the demon lord Demise?
Also, time travel. Good idea?

Well, these three posts seem to some up our gameplan (pasting over for ease of reference). If the rest of the command crew can provide their input on it before implementation, that would good.
>1/3
>>17859242
Preliminary plan:

1. Deal with Wily
a. Steal Dataslate
b. Remove info from Wily's memory
c. Make backup of all data on computers, especially experimental robot plans.

2. Deal with Eggman.
a. Find out what causes distortion
b. Steal or destroy it and Metal Sonic
c. Remove info from Eggman's memory

3. Go to Digsite
a. Find out what's causing distortion
b. Deal with guards
c. Steal or destroy distortion

4. Deal with Gems
-more info needed

5. Kill, destroy, or turn main boss back to normal.


For the Aurors:
1.Study Wily's Dataslate to see what he got from it. Possibly see which robot masters he's packing.
2.study Robotnik's lab to confirm what specifically is causing the distortion, most likely metal sonic.
3. Check out the layout of the digsite, and see if we can get a glimpse of what they're digging for.

For the Farseers:
See if there's any notables among the corpses/prisoners.

Tosh:
Where are the heroes that can help us, and how do we get in contact with them?
When did the contaminants arrive here, and will they help us travel through time to prevent them from spreading?
What is the creature at the core of the world; what was it before, and what did it combine with to become the thing it is now?

RVF-25:
Identify some of the wrecks both in the debris field and on the Moon's surface for later retrieval.

Indefatigable:
Get into orbit of Hyrule, and begin scans of the three HQ's. Get detailed floor plans, see if there's any kind of interdiction or interference field in place.

>>17862317
As per the plan in the planning thread:
For the Aurors:
1.Study Wily's Dataslate to see what he got from it. Possibly see which robot masters he's packing.
2.study Robotnik's lab to confirm what specifically is causing the distortion, most likely metal sonic.
3. Check out the layout of the digsite, and see if we can get a glimpse of what they're digging for.

For the Farseers:
See if there's any notables among the corpses/prisoners.

Tosh:
Where are the heroes that can help us, and how do we get in contact with them?
When did the contaminants arrive here, and will they help us travel through time to prevent them from spreading?
What is the creature at the core of the world; what was it before, and what did it combine with to become the thing it is now?

RVF-25:
Identify some of the wrecks both in the debris field and on the Moon's surface for later retrieval.

Indefatigable:
Get into orbit of Hyrule, and begin scans of the three HQ's. Get detailed floor plans, see if there's any kind of interdiction or interference field in place.

>>17862466
Oh yeah, and ask if there remain any places where magic remains both strong and pure.
If there's a chance to reforge Gurthang as a Blade of Evil's Bane, we aren't missing it.

>>17862469
For everyone's understanding, the preliminary plan 1-5 is just an outline of what to do.
The particulars and specifics are to be determined based upon results of our scrying and sensor scans.

2/3
>>17859327
Add this to Tosh's questions:
"When did the creature at the core of the world change to its present form?"

Or rather,

"When did the contaminant arrive at the core of the world?"

3/3
>>17861406
>(in ref to 1/3)
This plan is solid. I can think of no particular objections to it. I might make an addendum, though: can the Aurors pinpoint the locations they see solidly enough that they might be able to apparate there? Not right now, but if we need to in future. Or the past, even.

Also, see what creatures are being studied at the Gems site, as well as any security arrangements. Always helps to know what we're dealing with. And we might be able to loot some of those beasties, too. Although they should be a lower priority than the robots (be they Wily or Robotnik).

I can't help but wonder: might Metal Sonic himself be the unknown quantity? I can't recall reading about him in any of the 8bit dystopia threads. And he is pretty wanked, so it would likely be a very disruptive element, shifting the balance of power significantly. If he himself is the element in question, we should take him for analysis. But DO NOT activate him. He's powerhungry, and we'll wind up cursing his sudden yet inevitable betrayal. Also keep such a fact in mind when working on our robo/tg/uys. Perhaps we should give them 30 years of ethical testing (via a timedilation field provided by the sages or tech, preferably being only 30 seconds on our end) before activation.

Also: tell the salvage crews to prioritise salvageable gear, but wrecks are also viable for scrap and tech.

Confirm that the three gems seen in the Metpharm Lab are the Spiritual Stones of yore? The Kokiri's Emerald, the Goron's Ruby, and the Zora's Sapphire?

First we should clarify with the goddesses that technically we aren't here to save this world from the corruption that fills it, but merely to remove the contaminants whose presence distorts reality.
You know, maintaining the cosmic order and all that, they probably understand, but I don't want them to get the wrong idea and mistake us for heroes.

>>17862493
If they are, we'd better make sure that Metpharm can't Triforce.

>>17862529
Now that you mention it, Samus seems like she has a good balance of Courage, Wisdom, and Power. ...Well before Other M anyway.

>>17862474
>>17862469
Additionally for the Farseers, see if the creature at the heart of the world has become aware of our presence yet.

>>17862522
That's a good clarification to make. As goddesses, they should understand the whole "Ascended are not to interfere in the matters of mortals" schtick.

See if the goddesses or perhaps the aurors/farseers can see what Dracula, lord of Castlevania, is up to.
Because we already killed him once, and got lucky. I'd rather not have to do it again.

>>17862522
>>17862561
Well, hopefully by removing the external influences we'll be tipping the scales a little bit in the direction of those seeking to light up the night.

>>17862616
Maybe, but that's not the goal.
Like technically we should have minimal involvement, as much as I'd like to fire up a revolution, we'll have to leave these people to their sucky lives and hope it gets better for them eventually.

Ask the goddesses if there are any relics or entities of power and good (or even neutral) that have been long forgotten and thus... wouldn't be missed?

>>17862659
That's a bad idea, and you should feel bad for having it.
You're straight up asking goddesses if we can loot stuff from their home.

Let's snort some ring and take a hit of E-tank.

>>17862696
Technically I was just asking if they had anything useful to deal with the monstrosity at the center of the earth.
But yeah it is kind of tactless, request withdrawn.
How about asking them if there are any people we should absolutely make a priority out of keeping alive?

>>17862659
NO. Hell no. We're not asking the goddesses to point out their world's champions that we can take.

That might cost a bulb, for crying out loud!

Although if we can ask them if they know any magical swordsmiths that would be willing to help us reforge Gurthang, that would hopefully be acceptable.

>>17862765
How about we do nothing, and just stand there with our thumb up our ass. That work for you? Or is that interfering too much?

>>17862813
Well, we could try to do something about that later, but offending them now while possibly giving hints to the nature of the Meta (BAD IDEA) isn't optimal.

>>17862466
"Dey say no, mon."

>>17862469
The Aurors are able to zoom in on the Dataslate, and manage to show enough of the flickering information on its screen that your scientists swiftly come to a conclusion.

"Weapons technology," Egon replies, adjusting his glasses. "Extremely advanced weapons technology, along with the base theory they are built on."

The Aurors look around the lab of Dr. Robotnik, but can't really see what he is working on aside from it looks to be upgrading some version of Metal Sonic. They do manage to notice a strange device in the laboratory though, under a lot of analysis gear. It is the machine in the picture.

The dig site scrying vision grows hazy as it the scrying zone moves with great speed, deeper within the dig site, until it comes to a great cathedral-like Temple, half excavated from the rubble surrounding it.

The three gems match up perfectly with the Kokiri Emerald, Goron Ruby, and Zora Sapphire.

>>17862813
why don't e ask wat in the hell is causing this world so much instability, I.E. the shifts/distortions in reality instead of going "hey guys, how can we loot this place?"

>>17862925
To both?

>>17862925
Well, anyone know what that is, before we go in and swipe it?

Tell the aurors to see if there's a readout or monitor that they can see on the analysis machines that might tell us what it is.

>>17862925
That...looks like a Shizuma Drive. A.N.O.N., can we get confirmation from our database?

As for the Temple, compare it against the Temple of Time, and see if there's a match.

The 3 jewels are a little odd, since they should have been native.

Tosh:
What about the other questions?
>Where are the heroes that can help us, and how do we get in contact with them?
>When did the contaminants arrive here, and will they help us travel through time to prevent them from spreading?
>What is the creature at the core of the world; what was it before, and what did it combine with to become the thing it is now?

Anything from the Farseers?

"De goddesses say dat ting at da center caused alla this. It brought de taint of other worlds an' injected 'em into dis world for his own ends. Dey say when da great upheaval happened, dat thing appeared, but it looked like a man den. When the worlds were ripped apart, it did... somethin'. Da ting... grasped de threads of many worlds an' wove 'em together, den brought dem here. Dey say he even wove threads around 'imself, fusin' with 'em so dat when the upheavel ended, he was dat ting instead of a man. Somethin' bout this place... Like if a whole wurld could be haunted... or even do da hauntin'."

"Dey say the heroes left here have been marked for death by dis ting. An' this place's fate will be set in motion inna few seconds, a message sent by a man of Light."

>>17863026
well, thats bad....

>>17863000
Maybe the fact that they're in their possession when they shouldn't be is causing the distortions. Like Imperial-tech-upgraded Wilybots might be. That, or they're brought in from another Zelda canon. Perhaps the temple of Time's premature discovery is also causing distortions for the same reason.

Speaking of, can the Aurors identify the robot Masters with Wily? It'll help us tailor elemental responses appropriately.

>>17863026
>man of Light

This is either Doctor Light or Megaman.

Get the Aurors scrying him, too. Also, might this guy be related to that same spider-thing that helped out the Royal Pain and her Drow?

Still waiting on scrying the people Spider-Asshole is holding prisoner.

Also, did the Thing talk to the goddesses at all when he arrived? To anybody?

>>17863026
>An' this place's fate will be set in motion inna few seconds, a message sent by a man of Light.
Aw shit. What's Dr. Light going to do now?

See if the Farseers and the Aurors can scry upon Dr. Light and Megaman.

>>17862925
Reverse image search confirms that device to be a roblox version of a Subspace Bomb.
From SSBM.
This is bad.

>>17863114
If it is a subspace bomb, I think we need to up the priority on securing it from Robotnik to the top of our list.
Wily and MetPharm will have to wait.

>>17863107
You are unable to tell at this time, but the Aurors panned the image around long enough for your techs to record it. They'll work on the analysis and keep you updated.

>>17863088
Having the Aurors attempt a new round of scrying will stop their current attempt and begin a new one. Are you done with your current scry?

>>17863114
How bad?


Also 'fate set in motion' could mean that they're preparing to launch an attack that will decide this world's fate. If that's the case, we'll simply have a deadline to revert things back to normal.

The line about the world being haunted...could this thing be (I shudder to say it) a relative of Ebon Night? This place is kind of a sci-fi Ravenloft, if you think about it.

>>17863114
aw fuck.

fuck that shit, we should break that before subspace gets in on this shit.

also kirby seems to be the gatekeeper to dreamland which could argueably be called subspace in this game. so that means evil god kirby shows up and eats literally everything on the planet and kills the canon.

>>17863026
...So, to me at least, this seems to indicate that this -isn't- a stable crossover at all, but rather the result of an Ebon Night wannabe.
Like these canons -shouldn't- be blended, and destroying this enemy means destroying the tapestry he's woven around himself?
Or is the Upheaval something different from the rise of the City?

Nota Bene: If at all possible, RECRUIT DR. LIGHT.

Seriously, that man is a scientific engineering and robotics genius. We would immensely profit from his expertise and abilities.

wait...scan the radio waves! it's a message he's sending. A regular message. One that I'm guessing the whole city is going to hear.

Unless we're finished with our Scrying, in which case scry away. But we didn't get a grasp of the security around the three gems or the digsite.

>>17863168
The Upheaval could reference the Event, the detonation of the S.T.O.B. which certain magical entities were able to notice.
The Spider totem in the Shadowrun world we cleaned noticed the event, and even had some form of interaction.

Ask them if we defeat this being (I assume they don't know his name) what will become of the city and all the people who dwell within?

>>17863157
>Are you done with your current scry?
No.

We need to pan around Wily's lab, see what defenses and Robot Masters we can see.
Same with Robotnik's personal lab.
And for the MetPharm lab, there are other creatures there. Get a look at them to see what kind of trouble they could give an extraction team.

>>17863206
this.

>>17863190
this version is a little...off. I think between Data, Tesla and having Wily's library of blueprints, we'd be able to compensate.

>>17863196
That reminds me, might this guy be related to that Spider totem? It was meta-aware, as I recall.

>>17863157
Weren't the Farseers scrying one thing, and the Aurors another? Get the free group (farseers apparently, seeing as scrying on Spiderthing is apparently over) to scry. Mind you, considering Light is sending a message, I'm wondering if everyone's supposed to hear.

Still, the question remains: what does the Spiderbeast want with the death of the heroes? Elimination of a threat? A source of despair to feed upon, once all hope is extinguished? His own amusement? we have to figure this out.

Ask the Goddesses if there is anything we can do to derail Spiderthing's plans to kill the heroes.

>>17863206
"Dey say dey aren't sure. But dey will do dere best to make sure it ain't nuttin' bad."

>>17863274
Alright, let's have the Farseers try to scry on Light and Megaman.

Aurors, gather as much information on the defenses of the three HQ's before we finish up. Have A.N.O.N. recording their scrying.

>>17863274
Oh, one important question to ask of the Goddesses:
If we need to travel into the past in order to put right what once went wrong, will they assist us in moving our task force through time?

>>17863318
are we sure we're done with scrying? we had some other stuff to do.

Keep ears on the radio, and all media in the city. Light may be speaking to all of the city, not just a handful of underlings.

>>17863387
Goddesses already said that was a bad idea. Seeing as spiderthing's rise to power apparently coincided with the STOB detonation, I tend to agree with them.

>>17863266
>>17863387
"Yes."

>>17863195
>>17863407
"Message broadband cast, sir!" your comm-scan tech reports. "It's on the old AM frequencies... Patching through to main speakers."

A tired, worn voice echoes over your ship's communication channel.

"This is Dr. Thomas Light.. I'm broadcasting on the old A.M. frequencies in the hopes that someone, somewhere will hear this.." He paused, sighing heavily.

"Dr. Albert Wily is not to be trusted. The man is a sociopath. He intends to use his position and his massive armies of robots to take over the world... and I..I could not stop him in time."

"This is a call to arms. I am too old to fight....too battered and useless...but I know there are others out there. Others who would fight the oppression and tyranny that Dr. Wily is placing upon this city. So please.. if you can, come and find me.

Together...maybe we can bring back the light."

>>17863387
They already said no.
No time travel for us.

>>17863387
...How inspiring.

>>17863436
Can we trace it to its point of origin?

>>17863436
Oh god. They're going to ambush the heroes before they can gather.

Or hit them once they're all in one place.

I'm a bit fuzzy on the chronology here, to be honest.

>>17863442
>>17863417
According to >>17863436 they will help us with time travel.

So unless MetaOP didn't mean to respond to >>17863387 you all need to shut up.

>>17863436
thats EXTREMELY interesting....
this setting is right after lights building exploded in the session because this is the very speech he did then.

so megaman isn't even done yet and therefore zero isn't done yet.

also the warriors of light don't exist yet either.

I.E. this is very early in the setting.

>>17863468
ANON: "Trace in progress...The signal is being bounced off of multiple relays, in a manner designed to prevent backtraces, but our sensor suite is extremely advanced. Still, it will take a few minutes."

>>17863518
Continue tracing.

Has the Indefatigable been able to achieve orbit and begin deep scanning of the three HQ's?

>>17863482
They said they'd help us if they had to.
They also said it wasn't a good idea.
Which it isn't.

>>17863436
>'Yes.'

Are these two things related? (namely saving the heroes lives and timetraveling back in time)

>>17863518
Once we figure out his location, we should find a way to keep the old man under observation so we know if we have need to intervene.

Should we have Spike and some of our troops join Light's little resistance to keep an eye on them?
Like as a setting, this seems like a cue for the player characters to sign up.
And Spike will be more in his element here than on any previous mission.

>>17863582
We can use it as a last resort if bad rolls make everything else fall to shit.

For now, let's try to avoid having to use it.

>>17863592
If the two things aren't related, could they give us a little more information on what we can do? I mean we could consult the farseers, but they're coming in as outsiders.

>>17863629
We already did.
Twice.
It is to be avoided.

>>17863518

Did the goddesses say that we can travel through time to undo this?

I think we should wait till OP posts all of the information we've been asking for before we bury him under requests for MOAR. It'll make planning much easier if we have a more complete picture, for one thing.

>>17863667
It wasn't said "to be avoided" at all. The answers to the questions simply weren't specifically directed at the yes/no/possible/help with time travel questions.

Stop trying to play this like Ebon Night world, where we raidah'd our way to hell.

Hi.
Let's see how quickly all our planning in the planning thread went straight down the toilet.

>>17863707
You're retarded.
Time travel always always always makes things even more complicated than they already are, and produces a high chance of making the situation even worse.
It is every bit as stupid as going in guns blazing, as both should be last ditch efforts after anything sane proves ineffective.

>>17863707
well perhaps we can ask them to kindly specify. Really, do they have to be vague with us? Don't they understand we really need accurate information if we're to help?

>>17863701
>I think we should wait till OP posts all of the information we've been asking for before we bury him under requests for MOAR.
That would be nice, but I don't think he intends to fulfill all of the requests.

Like the Indefatigable was supposed to get into orbit under cloak and scan the three HQ's. No reports from that.

No progress on if the Aurors are able to help in determining the defenses of the three HQ's.

>>17863783

I come back and I see people trying to bull their way through with the MOREDAKKA plan, shooting down the more extensive, subtle plans?

Early evening and daytime /tg/ is evil.

>>17863638
"Dey say dat dis wurld's fate is wavering. De ting at de center wants to make his own, but even different as dey are, the threads of fate still pull de men dat once were heroes. De plumber must rescue his princess. De speedster must destroy de egg. Courage and Wisdom must overcome Power. Though de city may burn, fate will pull until these and other tings are done. Dey say it is dere nature, even now, even with de change. De fat one, he wants to change even dat. He cast down their world, and scarred de men and women that were heroes, but dat ain't enough for 'im. He left instructions for the Men of Iron. He stole the secrets of annutha Space to merge with the power of Chaos. He stole Time an' gave it to de False Mother."

Tosh pauses. "Dey say we act outside da cycle, same as de monster. We might be able ta kill 'im, let fate take its course. Dat's what dey say."

Tosh frowns, an odd look. "Dey... say somethin' about a dead world bein' brought back to life. I don't get dat part, mon."

>>17863810
They're working on it.

>>17863810

Then of all questions, let's *specifically* get an answer goddesses if traveling back in time will solve this.

All the other questions that have been answered don't even link directly to that time travel question at all.

>>17863826
OP. These time travel safety questions:

>>17863854
>>17863681

>>17862491
>>17862474
>>17862469
That's good. I'm late to the thread so I don't know how quickly everyone shouted "NO GUYS WE NEED T O EXPLORE", but hopefully these plans went through.

>>17863826
that makes sense and i'm ok with this.

@Bootleg OP: From how and what the three goddesses specifically said, they know about the meta.

>>17863826
>He left instructions for the Men of Iron.
Wily and the Imperium data-slate.
>He stole the secrets of annutha Space to merge with the power of Chaos.
Robotnik and the Subspace Bomb.
>He stole Time an' gave it to de False Mother
The three jewels and Mother Brain.

The fat guy could be a Meta-individual. Or it could be Porky Minch, who became Meta-Aware.

>>17863881
Tosh is silent.

"De goddesses... dey don't know. It might. It might not. It be a large risk to tamper with a timeline already so frayed... but if it works, dey say everything would be set right." Tosh pauses again. "Dey do say dat we not be the only ones tinkin' of going back in time. With de Temple almost unearthed and de gems in corporate hands, de corporations may soon fight across time as well as de city."

>>17863953
Yeah... I'd say stopping them from being able to do that just became our top priority.

>>17863933
Indeed, Porky Minch does appear in SSMB, and the other parts of the description fit the bill, other than the supernatural corruption.

It's the most plausible explanation where the subspace bomb came from.

>>17863953

So it's now a race for time travel now.

If we screw around in the present too long, we won't be able to be ahead of the game and prevent all this.

Important as well:
Data might know a thing or two about time travel, which will help us use the time travel devices on the Gradius fighters, and mount them on our large ships.

>>17863826
>dead world
I'm thinking ravenloft, perhaps. ebon night's brother's cousin's pet dog's sister's former roomate, perhaps?
>create a new world
i'm not sure what this means...

we had any luck with the people the fat one took prisoner?

>>17863953
Alright, so we need to grab the sub-space bomb to prevent Robotnik from using it, and we need to grab the jewels to prevent the Temple from being used.

The corps won't be able to use the Temple without the jewels, and Wily's robots, while more powerful because of Imperium technology, can still be defeated via means at our disposal.

So the bomb and the jewels should be our two highest priorities.

>>17862925
(robotnik pic)
Subspace bomb.

>"Weapons technology," Egon replies, adjusting his glasses. "Extremely advanced weapons technology, along with the base theory they are built on."
That could be many things, but weapons technology is weapons technology. Here's hoping we don't have to fight Gradius Man, R-type man, Gundam Man, Macross Man, University of Planet Man, Obelisk of Light Man, Death Star Man, or Flood the World Lever Man.

>until it comes to a great cathedral-like Temple, half excavated from the rubble surrounding it.
My mind's drawing a blank for what a buried cathedral would be. Could be part of Castle Hylia, but probably not.

>>17863026
I ... It's Tabuu. It's Tabuu. He's turning this place into another goddamn brawl.

>>17864001
...How could you possibly get that interpretation?
The sane response would be to stop them from gaining the ability to time travel in the first place.
Like here's a fucking analogy for you.
Time Travel is like playing Russian Roulette with five chambers loaded, and you have to go first.

This is Porky's SSBB version. Compare with some of the basic characteristics of the final boss.

The next thing we need to ask the goddesses is about the Master Sword and reforging Gurthang.

Hopefully, I'll be able to get back in an hour. Ciao.

>>17864022

That's good. Tabuu can be beaten by simply beating the shit out of him.

The trouble is just getting to him through all the mazes of Subspace that he weaves around himself.

>>17864022
It's the Temple of Time dude.
The OoT version, if the Spiritual Stones are any indication.

>>17864033

Oops, forgot the pic.

>>17864033
What specifically are you asking about this?

>>17864014
They're talking about this world dumbass.
Hyrule.
It was alive before, but now it's dead, smothered by the City.
Somehow, defeating the final adversary will cause Hyrule to live once more, and reduce grimdark to subcritical levels.

Alright, so the Indefatigable is currently scanning the three HQ's for weaknesses and floor plans.

A.N.O.N., do we have the energy signature of Samus Aran's suit on file? Lt. Aran, in this Canon, is a MetPharm trooper. We could have the RVF-25 attempt to pinpoint some of the heroes we're supposed to make sure survive by their unique energy signatures.

>>17864001
Right, so we need to find a way to reseal the temple of time, steal back the triforce, and swipe the tech from Wily and Robotnik before things go too far.

Ask the goddesses if the el lardo has done anything else to hinder the heroes other than what we know of, or is he sitting back and letting things happen?

>>17864080

"With your blessings, could we reforge Gurthang as a new holy sword? Or as another Master Sword?"

>>17864106
The RVF-25 is near the flotilla of ships in orbit above Hyrule. We're about to prep up to ping those ships and to salvage whatever tech from the derelict hardware there is.

We still need the Gradius and Arwing tech.

>>17864022
The tech is for Men of Iron from 40k's Dark Age of technology. So yeah, this may be difficult.

>>17864108

>>reseal the temple of time

We can teleport rocks, and Agrias can manipulate the terrain with her maxed out Geomancer skills.

>>17862317

maybe it's unrelated but... the thunder man back there seems to be saying "Explain this bullshit!"

>>17863436
Looks like Dr. Light, or at least a recording of him, is alive and broadcasting.

Right.
Wily got advanced weapons tech,
Robotnik got a subspace bomb,
Metpharm got the gems of time,
Foot clan got the temple of time,
Light just started a Brawl,
and at the center of this whole thing, a creature that is most likely a fusion of some villain and Nurgle has not only dragged in people for his brawl, but is collecting ...
*image of all the people cocooned around the room*
... Trophies.

For Time Travel? I have no idea if it's a good idea or not. But if, as one poster said, we're early in the 8 bit dystopia canon, then time travel may not be so useful. I wouldn't throw it out just yet, but I wouldn't go straight for it just yet, either.

>Having our ships scan the 3 HQs
If we can do this as we triangulate Light's signal, do so. Otherwise, focus on Light's signal first.

>>17864153
Of course, that means wiping Wily's memory of sending troops there, as well as any digital record. But we'd have to do that anyway to deal with the Iron Men information.

>>17864144
That hardware will be there after we neutralize the reality distortions.
We don't need the Arwing or Gradius technology.

>>17864188
>maybe it's unrelated but... the thunder man back there seems to be saying "Explain this bullshit!
>the thunder man
>thunder man

Damn it, does nobody know their Robot Masters anymore?

>>17864214
If we don't get to the Temple of Time fast enough, you're going to have to take back that last line of yours.

>>17864190
What do we do with the RVF-25 stuck around Hyrule? Also, what to do with the ship pinging? Do we get the Inde to salvage while we can?

Remember, Hyrule is hidden close to Mars in this setting. Or something.

Hm. Tabuu or Porky as the endboss.
On the one hand. Tabuu's already gathered people for a Brawl, and he's dickish enough to set up this whole situation.
On the other hand, it's goddamn Porky. He's turned the world of Mother 3 into dystopian ash, and if Nurgle would bind with anyone, it'd be Porky.

I mean, crap. It could easily be BOTH, right?

I wonder if it'd be possible to just use our teleporters to steal all the items.

Asking for advice from Bootleg OP up here: >>17864268

>>17864283
Save the question for later.

>>17864118
"You wish for dem to bless de sword when you reforge it?" Tosh asks. He nods. "Dey agree, if you defeat de monster dat once was a man."

>>17864108
"Dey say 'e shields most of his machinations from even dem. Dey don't know what his other plans be."

>>17864269
Are we sure it's Nurgle? It could by that Spider thing that buddied up with the Drow in Shadowrun.

>>17864247

hah i expected that response
to be sincere at first i didn't remember but then i thought a bit and it came to my mind (Elecman wasn't too hard to guess anyway) but i wanted to leave it like that to see the reactions
Well, at least your answer wasn't filled with hate so... good

>>17864268
The Temple of Time cannot be used without the jewels. And the Dig Site is a WilyCorp zone, not MetPharm, who has the jewels needed.

As for the RVF-25, we can either have it attempt to track down certain heroes that we have the energy signatures for, or we can have it assist the Indefatigable in scanning the defenses surrounding the three HQ's in preparation of us breaking in and stealing the required items.

>>17864313
"That's a fair reward for the deed."

Bootleg OP:
Someone suggested having Agrias/Cheryl/Elaine as avatars of Din/Neyru/Fahrore temporarily, ala avatars of Khaine, using Eldar help.... Your opinion?

The RVF-25 is currently searching for Scrapyards, so we can understand how Robotnik and Wily's robots can be made/unmade.

The Storm is currently scanning the HQs for weakness, and tracing Light's signal.

The Farseers are working on contacting Light.
The Aurors are busily trying to verify if the Temple at the digsite is the temple of time.

Is it possible to get Tosh to transmit mental images of Pokey/Porky Minch and Tabuu to the Goddesses, and ask them if either of them resembles the humanoid man that came to the world? If so, do that.

Right. We're gonna need to do 5 things, we're gonna need to do them simultaneously, and we're gonna need to be fast about it:

#1: Infiltrate Light's resistance movement
#2: Get Dat Fukken Bomb away from Robotnik
#3: Get Dat Fukken Slate away from Wily
#4: Get Dem Fukken Gems away from Metpharm
#5: Get Dat Fukken Temple re-sealed.
#5 should be the easiest, as all you need to do is teleport down a shitton of rocks or cement.

While this happens, anyone with Sensors, Scrying, or Future seeing, should focus on finding heroes. AFTER they're done with their current task.

>>17864285
You're a real sycophant, you know that?

>>17864313
Well alright then.
Time to get to work.
Priority 1 is preventing time shenanigans
Priority 2 is getting that subspace bomb out of the hands of the Eggman
Priority 3 is figuring out how to 'uninvent' whatever Wily's going to build with his new knowledge, and make sure no one can build the things again.
Priority 4 Is stopping the Good Doctor from making things worse, or whatever we're supposed to do with Light.
This sound like a good breakdown?

>>17864361

FOR RESEALING THE TEMPLE OF TIME:

We could have the Mikasa drill the nearby landscape and cause an avalanche.

Didn't Porky start a whole city up to start worshipping him at some point?

Mind you, doesn't he have the mind of a child? If that's the case, he lacks the mental sophistication to come up with such a subtle means of making the heroes meet their end. not to mention, wasn't he confined to the Absolutely Safe Capsule?

>>17864359
If the Goddesses wish to make our people avatars of them, I'd be fine with it.
I assume Agrias -> Courage, Cheryl -> Power.
As for Wisdom, I suppose Elaine is our best bet, but the quest as a whole is running a bit low on wisdom.

>>17864380
That would work, but we'd need to have the Mikasa fuck off to hide behind Pluto afterwards since both Wily and Sanic will be trying to kill it.

>>17864391
Not the brawl version.

>>17864359
>Agrias/Cheryl/Elaine as avatars of Din/Neyru/Fahrore temporarily, ala avatars of Khaine, using Eldar help
That process kills the people used in the process.
So I'm vetoing that idea so hard.

>>17864361
The Indefatigable is scanning the HQ's. The Storm is the one attempting to triangulate Light's signal.

What is the purpose of us infiltrating Light's Army? I see it as too much risk, especially when we have to concentrate on breaking into the HQ's and getting the contaminants secured.

>>17864391
Porky is indeed a powerful, immature jerk.

The Absolutely Safe capsule isn't absolutely safe at all. If you can see out, and you can see in, then even if it blocks harmful light, you can still spam images of goatse, pain series, and furry porn into it.

>>17864413
The purpose is to ensure that we can command, or at least direct, the Canon heroes, using our superior intel. Those Canon heroes are powerful and we could USE them.

>>17864456
My point about the capsule is that the fat man apparently was on his own, with no capsule nor mechabed in sight.

>>17864456
>you can still spam images of goatse, pain series, and furry porn into it
>mfw The Command Crew wouldn't discount that as an option
You are the funniest guy sometimes, Bootleg, I swear.

Well, any info that OP needs before we see more results?

>>17864456
>The purpose is to ensure that we can command, or at least direct, the Canon heroes, using our superior intel.
I disagree.
We already know their plans, what Light is setting up, the organizations and people involved. We only need an Al'Kesh with the Delta Green Squad on-station to make sure that they aren't killed prematurely. They won't even know we're there.

We need to use the attacks that they will incite to breach the facilities, recover the contaminants, and Obliviate the minds of Wily and Robotnik.

>>17864456
i approve of spmming porky with goatse and furry porn, while watching him go batshit insane...


however i do agree this is way to similar to taboo to really be anything else is my bet. sounds like were gonna have an old fashion beatdown going on against him.

>>17864490
Well, now we just have to wait for OP to tell us things.
Whether the RVF found a scrapyard.
Where Light's broadcasting from.
What weaknesses the Corp HQs have.
Verifying who the man at the center is (hopefully Tosh can send images to the goddesses so we can check whether our suspects match the humanoid figure)
Whether the unearthed temple is in fact the Temple of Time via scrying + ANON checking (it most likely is)

If becoming an Avatar of the gods slays the recipient, I'm against it.

>>17864517
Indirectly manipulating should work. I suppose you're right, less interference with the Canon that way. I was wrong.

>>17864544
I'm betting 5 DOSH that it's both Porky AND Tabuu.
I mean, shit. Porky!Nurgle, Tabuu!Tzeentch, Giygas!Khorne or Bowser!Khorne and Kirby!Slaanesh might all be here.

>>17864544
The reason I doubt it's Tabuu is that they said several times that the enemy was 'once a man'.
And even though Tabuu is humanoid, he/it was never something you could call human.

>>17864571
well thats a fucking scary thought if all 4 gods are in here doing stuff.

>>17864578
to be fair, we don't actually know what the hell taboo originally was, he could have been a human who hit power somehow.

>>17864571
Wait, a better match for Khorne would be Shao Kahn.

So there. Worst Case Scenario laid out.
Porky!Nurgle,
Tabuu!Tzeentch,
Shao Kahn!Khorne,
Kirby!Slaanesh,
Could all be here. Start worrying, lads.

"De goddesses say to choose three among ya. Dey will watch dem closely. If'n dey be needin' and WORTHY of da power, dey might be invested with da touch of da goddess."

Tosh shudders for a moment, then points to one of the bridge's consoles, which blurs with static for a moment before a picture of a tall, thin man in a labcoat dominates it.

"Dat was 'im before the change."

It takes you a moment to realize it, but then it hits you. The man in the picture is wearing a Transpace Guard researcher uniform.

>>17864614
>tall thin man in a labcoat from the transpace guard
well FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
GOD DAMN IT RAIDAH!

>>17864614
.
..
...

>>17864614
>The man in the picture is wearing a Transpace Guard researcher uniform.
Check to see if we can make out the name tag.

Dammit, Black Ops should have neutralized him. Now we have to do their work for them because they've got their heads so far up their asses that they're more concerned with the TG Civil War.

>>17864614
And then everything just got so much worse.

>>17864651
You can barely make out the nametag. "Dr. Grimm."

RIGHT LADS.
TIME TO GET DOUBLEMETA.

>http://pastebin.com/2VSaJGwi
EDITORS NOTES v3.0
START READIN'.

>Dr. Grimm.
F
FU
FUC
FUCK

rolled 90, 36 = 126

>>17864614
FUCKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>17864614

Get ANON to scan his face, run it through some scans to see if we can get an ID.

It may be a former member of TG gone "fixer" and is doing his damndest to shape this canon for whatever reason. Alternatively, it may be a canon Researcher Character who was recruited for whatever reason (i.e. rescued from canon death, had nothing more to contribute to his canon after a certain point, etc.) and for whatever reason did all of this.

>>17864688
You know this guy?

>>17864681

>>17864681
Does A.N.O.N. have any TG personnel files in our databanks, like how Federation starships carry almost all of their information with them rather than contacting Starfleet for every information request?

Do we have any information on Dr. Grimm? Any TG personnel on-ship that worked in R&D that might have heard of him?

>>17864614
>>17864640
Shit. Ask ANON to cross-reference it with our sector's personnel files (if we can access those from here) failing that, get the picture back to holtz via the AUH (we're not using it for anything at the moment). We need this guy's file. I want to know his name, his training, hell I want his damn shoe size if it'll help us take him down!

Of course the question becomes-what is he trying to accomplish? He's trying to create a new world, or maybe recreate an old one. We need to figure out his angle.

This is the Winter Contigency. We're dealing with a Fixer, people. That means he's liable to think like we do and expect us to intervene. Act accordingly.

>>17864706
I worked with him. Before I left the guard and started working for Wayrf, he was 2nd in charge of Human Resources.
It was he who ensured that everything was super effective.
I had no idea what happened to him after the shakedown; a good half of Human Resources quit that day, including me.

>>17864726
so, what can we expect? You have any idea what he's trying to do?

>>17864614
>>17864681
HE HAS BEEN CONSUMED-
CONSUMED BY THE CANCER-
I HAVE FORSEEN!
THE GRIMDARKNESS! THE ENDLESS CATHART!
^---(Codexfag paranoia / flashback line)---^
Check ALL records for this man. Power, Editor ability, and good old-fashioned Grimdarkness may have... ended Grimm the man and birthed Grimm the Dark.

>>17864715
Isn't he an 'anti-fixer' since he seems to hate heroism and things not sucking?

>>17864746
I have no idea.
All his methods are brutal and effective, and as far as I can tell, "Brutal but effective" isn't just a means to an end, it IS an end for this man. Judging by his new ... state, he's gone well off the deep end, and has been CONSUMED by the idea of "Brutal, but effective".

>>17864783
So beyond the fact that he wants to make things a lot more brutal, I haven't the slightest clue what he wants here, or what he's planning to do here, whether he still has his human wants/needs/desires/feelings remaining, or if the drive to make things more Brutal has completely consumed him.

I'm sorry. I don't know.

Since when was this a roleplaying thread?
Also did we still not get a Meta-comm array?

>>17864783
i bet you he ran into cirby.

according to 8BD if you run into kirby directly turns you into dream touched, which is essentially the quickest way to become an eldritch abomination and drives you batshit insane in the form of Sanity damage.

>>17864754
Fixer is the term for a rogue editor. They 'fix' things to the way they think it should be. Even if it's not broken. Even if their definition is out of whack with everyone else's.

OK, get word back to Holtz via the AUH...unless it's possible he could detect our drives. If that's true he may have already detected us.

Have our chaps had any luck with IDing Grimm's captives/trophies?

As for Me?
My job in human resources?
Simple.
I was pretty low down, just a middle manager ...
... I oversaw the activities of a small number of the Looter teams.
They ARE some of our greatest resources, after all.

>>17864688
Codexfag gonna Codex.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vkjkNCmjryYBoCSW89Ui30moJS-wKgsAknZVZJbMKH4/edit?hl=en_US
This guy seems less like a 'fixer' and more like a hypothetical 'Twister': Someone who uses Editor MetaPowers and sheer force of will to take a Canon and bend it, grind it, -rape- it into a more appealing shape. As you can see... Grimdarkness is often the result, as many Editors become jaded with their work and become cynical punisher-gods.

>>17864841
>... I oversaw the activities of a small number of the Looter teams.
and what hell those days were.

seemed simpler then being as looter.

ANON pauses a moment.

"File found. Dr. Darrin Grimm, Senior Researcher, Transpace Guard Main Branch.
Clearance Level: Omega.
Familial Status: Single, no surviving relatives.
Assigned to Research: Classified.
Length of employment: 20 years. Subject went AWOL without explanation from Main Branch labs approximately four years ago.

The rest of the file has been sealed."

>>17864841
No one cares.
If you want to tell your life story, tell it to the airlock.
I'm sure it'd love to hear your biography.

>>17864816
>Since when was this a roleplaying thread?
Ever since some sycophants began feeding Bootleg OP's ego.
I got nothing against the guy, but he's pretty close to being raidah now.

Right. We also need to pick people to receive the Goddesses' blessings. Any ideas?

>>17864872
This is when we talk to Holtz?

>>17864895
I thought they were going to choose whoever was most worthy.
Like, I'm pretty sure they would know best.

>>17864877
>>17864881
Very well. I shall stop. Figured people enjoyed setting flavor, but if you don't, never mind.

>>17864899
I think that if we leave this world for even a few hours, the Megacorps are gonna find a way to send Superior weapons technology and World-obliterating bombs BACK THROUGH TIME! and then we're right fucked.

>>17864872
This enemy knows our procedures inside out.
He must have prepared contingency plans for when his reality distortions became too great for TG to ignore. He must have prepared for our arrival.

Have the RVF-25, the Inde, and the Storm continue their respective tasks.
We need to see if he gave the locals interdiction technology.

>>17864872
I... I don't know.
Editor fore-front research? G:tT Mania? Obviously, since we have little information, we can only guess, but the possibilities are staggering in depth and implications.
>>17864913
OP, can we confirm that the Goddesses will choose their champions for themselves?
>>17864924
Honestly, I've been tempted to do the same thing as an Editor Trainer, but seeing as nobody would get where I'm coming from, it'd come off as tripfaggy. While some people might not enjoy it, I certainly do.

>>17864924
So we DON'T have the communications array?

>>17864924
Awww, I was enjoying the diversion.

>>17864899
As pointed out, Grimm might detect our Meta Transit drives spinning up and making transit.
Even if we only sent the Heaven back to base, I think it's too big of a threat.
So far he seems unaware of our presence; I want to keep it that way.

>>17864816
>Also did we still not get a Meta-comm array?
Holtz said that he'll get one for us when we clear another world. We chose this one.

>>17864895
Will the blessings kill them? If so, I'd rather that not happen.
Otherwise, I'd let them pick who carries the blessing.

>>17864937
He thinks he knows us. He's only familiar with Mk.1 Reality Emitters. We have Mk.2 Emitters.

If he THINKS he's got defenses that are perfect against Reality Emitters, but they aren't perfect after all, then that's an ace in the hole and a way to punch him straight in the kidney.

>>17864952
We don't have the array. We thought it would get us in trouble faster with High Command and Holtz.

>>17864872
>>17864899
can we send some of our people back on the AUH to talk to Holtz while the rest of us focus on the job at hand. We're going to need to play this smart. By smart I mean not kamikaze-style. We need to expect him to be monitoring if anyone undoes his changes. I mean, if he was running an op, he'd work from the bottom up, right?

>>17864952
I guess not.
Also, regular posting of our various lists of stuff, heroes, etc. would be useful.
>>17864960
I could do the same thing if Anon wants. I've got stories of the Meta and the Editors that'll send shivers down your spine. However, being sent out an air-lock or being told to hush up might not be worth it.
>>17864982
Also, we're the fucking Command Crew: A bunch of nearly schizophrenic men and women with too much power and too little attention when we need it most. It's any general's worst nightmare to fight something as erratic as us.

>>17864982
Knowing this, does this mean we'll have to think of a way to seal the Temple of Time in a different way? If one thing is for sure, creative teleporter use is something new. Grimm is probably expecting people to either take the temple by force.

>>17865008
>Also, regular posting of our various lists of stuff, heroes, etc. would be useful.
Our Inventory:
http://pastebin.com/HGsJUZZb

Our To-Do/Research/Engineering List:
http://pastebin.com/7hTAHGyg

The goddesses will not kill them, no. Left to their own devices, they will choose them, but you get the feeling your choice may be part of some sort of test.

>>17864982
>He thinks he knows us. He's only familiar with Mk.1 Reality Emitters. We have Mk.2 Emitters

whoever came up with the idea of researching emitters, I could kiss you.

OK, how do we go about this, gentlemen?

>>17865037
I think we make sure the stories follow their course?
Sonic must defeat Eggman, Mario must defeat Bowser, etc.?

>>17865034
OK, then. Who do we think for what role?
(Disclaimer: I know nothing about Zelda save what I learned from popcultural osmosis)
Egon might be good for wisdom
Darius, Courage.
And Cheryl is probably the most powerful.

Somebody care to check my work? I don't want to out and say this is what I think.

>>17865034
We need the paragons of...
>WISDOM
>POWER
>COURAGE
Will get to listing relevant Heroes in a bit.
>>17865064
Well, obviously. I think the issue here is preventing possible MetaTech issues, keeping time stable, and stopping Grimm The Dark from ruining everything.

ALSO: Should we ever get any Editors? Powerful folks, MetaVersatile, and they might get Named Powers quickly.
>>17865078
Say what you think, for your opinions are the anvil and the collective is the hammer to make them straight and sharp.

>>17865034
>>17865078
>you get the feeling your choice may be part of some sort of test.
We've got a couple candidates for this.

Wisdom - Egon, for his intellect. Elaine for her level-headed personality.

Courage - Cheryl, because she went through Silent Hill TWICE. Agrias, who fought against the Church she once believed in when faced with their corruption. Pretty much most of the Heroes, simply by their nature.

Power - Cheryl, as an alpha-level psyker, is the only one that comes to mind.

>>17865101
Egon or Elaine - Wisdom
Darius, or Cheryl - Power
Spike - Courage

>>17865078
>Wisdom
Egon, Data.
>Courage
Darius, Agrias.
>Power
Cheryl, Heather's Bum.

Remember we have the Brasta?

Guys, if you want to know what Crowe is like, his lines are here:

>>>/m/7385028

>>17865149
>>17865144
>>17865132
>>17865078
For Wisdom, I think we should also include Pellaeon.
The man did turn the Imperian Remnant from a Saturday morning cartoon villain into a beacon of civilization that a citizen could be proud of.

>>17865169
Good point. I often forget about the thousands (tens of thousands?) of men that serve as crew on our kilometer-sized metal rods in space.

Yeah we haven't really been given any indication of any specific values the three goddesses have, beyond courage wisdom and power.

Still nothing on the prisoners in Grimm's chamber? They could be people from other canons that need to be returned. tell those people to step up their work! Also did we get round to picking through what robot masters wily is using or the other beasties Metpharm possess?

>>17865228
That's as specific as it gets, in canon.
>>17865144
Leaning towards Data for Wisdom, Darius or Spike for Courage, and Cheryl for Power. However, it seems that Power has more physical implications than it might have seemed, so Darius -might possibly- fit in here.

>>17865228
http://www.zeldawiki.org/Golden_Goddesses
Get some learn into ya!
Go on. Put them words in yer skull.

Do you think we'll need to match chosen to people to ones who'll be on the frontlines?

We might have to also match temperaments as well.

The three goddesses have specific elements as well.

Din - Fire/Earth - Power
Farore - Wind/Wood - Courage
Neyru - Water/Time - Wisdom

>>17865263
We've avoided elemental forces for now, as they lack the utility that we could need.
However, if Light=Fire, then Cheryl is certainly Fire based.
For Time, nothing beats a White mage that we multiclassed into Time mage. No idea if Healing is considered watery in FFT, though it's watery in many other canons.
For Wind/Wood we really don't have anyone to match that at all. Plenty of Courageous heroes though - Agrias and Darius are noted.

This is what I got from Chinese elements and personalities:

Wood: dynamic, expansive, stimulated by challenge and action

Fire: enthusiast, fusional, a certain charisma, may be anxious

Earth : temperate, peace-loving, jolly, helpful
Metal: organised, loves order, respects authority and rituals

Water: introspective, discreet, needs safety, may feel lonely

>>17865309
Kind of amazing how differently the East and the West see the Water element, isn't it?

>>17865247
However, Power could also refer to not just physical power, but also the power of will and power wielded.
If that's the case, Pellaeon, former leader of a galactic empire, he who led the Galactic Alliance, Grand Admiral of the Empire, is leagues ahead of everyone else.

>>17865345
True, but how do we get rear-line people to get their maximum power out?

>>17865400
Is direct combat the only way that their powers could manifest?
With Pellaeon it could manifest like Force Battle Meditation, where everyone in the entire task force suddenly works BETTER.
Maybe something else.

As I said, it's just an idea. Just because Pellaeon is our fleet operations consultant doesn't mean we should automatically discount him from all of the adventure that the other Heroes get up to.

I just had a disconcerting realisation.

Grimm may have seen the STOB coming, and took advantage of its effects to reshape this world.

If that's true, who else in the Transpace Guard knew?

Wow, I'm glad I made it to the thread in time to contribute. Don't worry, I read all the relevant postings. I definitely suggest that Cheryl be made an avatar/paragon/hero(?), probably of Courage but maybe either of the other two. Pretty hard to say. Spike could also be a candidate for courage.

Wisdom could go to Egon, but I kind of feel like Elaine or Lyla might be better? I feel they would connect better with Nayru. Egon is more intelligence than wisdom.

Power is pretty difficult. I'm really unsure because Power has always been Ganondorf's thing, and with Ganondorf being evil and all, well...it's messing up my thoughts on the idea.

>>17865502
>>If we face Grimm, we can save that question for him before a fight starts up.

I can't help wondering-if were to seize the triforce for our own, would we be able to use its power to counter Grimm's effects? Or is he too powerful for that to work on him at all. The fact the goddesses are powerless suggests the latter, but a man can hope.

Note: by 'for our own', I mean 'grab it for use in this canon and return it to the goddesses once we're done here.'

>>17865545
If it's tough, we can match them to element personalities.

>>17865569
We don't even know what other tools Grimm brought from the TG.

>>17865502
>>17865554

That IS a very disconcerting thought. It may be that more people in the Guard, perhaps even higher up than his position, were aware of what was coming. Although, even if we can restore him to normal, which I exceedingly doubt, he will most likely escape or will be unmoved to tell us.

Oh- oh wait. I just realized something! There may be a serious reward for this, considering that we're dealing with a rogue Meta-individual of his level.

>>17865545
I don't think Lyla. She struck me as hot-headed and a little avaricious.
Elaine, though, may work.

The point about Egon being more intellect than wisdom has a point. I mean, the man did strap an unlicensed nuclear accelerator with an atomic pile on his back in order to hunt down and capture ghosts.
But wisdom comes with age and experience, and Egon is quite experienced.

>>17865643
And it's a Lynchpin. Gotta be DOSH in the Lynchpins.
In fact, this is likely the last DOSH we'll get until sector complete, so the pastebin of the items we want will be most useful (ESPECIALLY the black barrel and holy water).

>>17865643
>he will most likely escape or will be unmoved to tell us
We have Aurors, Psions, Farseers, and Tosh.
Tight lips have no defense against the mindripping that we can bring to bear.

Of course, it might trigger some kind of neural self-destruct, seeing as he was previously from TG Main R&D, but them's the breaks.

>>17865671
How do we budget parts or the chassis for /tg/bein into this?

So, uh, is there anything stopping use from using our teleporters to take some of the orbital wreckage and putting it in storage for later research?

rolled 89, 76 = 165

Sir, a doorway! Should I go first to absorb any reaction fire?

>>17865721
You're the reason the Firaxis game is going to disappoint us all, Rookie.
Go soak some Snakeman fire or something.

Alright, we've been at this for nearly an hour. We need to determine the avatars.

Pool:
Wisdom - Egon, Elaine, Data, Pellaeon
Power - Cheryl, Darius, Pellaeon
Courage - Cheryl, Agrias, Spike, Darius, Douglas

My votes:
Wisdom - Elaine
Power - Pellaeon
Courage - Cheryl

>>17865721
>>17865744

What the frell was that?

>>17865712
The power readings from the transporter use might get picked up by Canon Natives.

>>17865751
X-COM Rookie making his contribution, don't mind him.
>>17865758
Was going to say this, but in fewer words.

>>17865747
Already voted, Egon - wis, Cheryl - pow, Agrias - cour

>>17865779
Back.

Wisdom - Egon
Courage - Cheryl
Power- Agrias

>>17865747
I think I'm going to agree with this vote. Pellaeon is a bit of an odd choice, but I know his character better than I know Darius, and the Admiral could turn out very well.

>>17865747
Wisdom - Egon
Power - Darius
Courage - Agrias

Votes:

Courage - Crowe. His disposition is closest to Link's in canon, it seems. He has the spirit for hard work, justice, and honor.

Wisdom - Pellaeon. Egon's talents on his stat sheet are buffing him already. Having Pellaeon get the blessings is, I'm guessing, quite like getting extra COMMON SENSE lightbulbs.

Power - Agrias. Powering her up will help Darius.

>>17865779
>>17865810
I second these.

Now let's move along, please. Time is of the essence.

>>17865885
I think you accidentally punned, good Anon.

>>17865885
I based my choices on what would balance out the characters or allow them to stand side-by-side with another.

>>Courage - Crowe
:0

>> the Brasta containing the "Swaying Scales", a Sphere powered by misfortune. On the other hand, he also comes with the "Fortune" pilot skill, and he does find a rather convenient way to pay off his debt, purely by chance, just like how a scale can tip one way before tipping to the other)
>> It's even stated the debt would be no issue at all if he were to renounce his inheritance, but he refuses the idea because he sees it as his way to repay his father for raising him

Wisdom: Egon. He had the good sense to admit that the eldritch was a very real thing, and didn't discount it just because it fell beyond his understanding of reality. By admitting his own ignorance and committing to learning the unknown, he gained mastery of it. This shows great wisdom.


Courage: Cheryl (or Douglas). Both of them were regular people who got thrown into an impossibly horrible and twisted world. But despite their obvious mundane abilities, they faced Silent Hill head-on (TWICE!). In Cheryl's case, the second time she went she knew that her latent abilities that could very well consume the world had to be used to defeat Ebon Night, and decided to give it a go. Douglas stuck around even though he was just a detective. This shows great courage.

Egon has Wisdom, Courage is tied between Cheryl and Agrias, and Power is tied between Pellaeon, Cheryl, and Agrias.

OP breaks ties and assigns Agrias to Courage and Cheryl to Power in order to keep things moving.

"De goddesses have dere eyes on you, bruddahs and sistas," Tosh intones. Cheryl frowns.

"OK. That's not creepy at all..." she mutters. "Can't get enough of being watched all the time..."

"The eyes of God and Heaven are always upon us," Agrias says, nodding. "It is nothing to fear."

I'm concerned about this, but:

Do you guys think that the goddess' blessings might overlap with the chosen talents of the heroes in our roster?

>>17865885
>>17865900
Yes. Let's.

Well, now we just have to wait for OP to tell us things.
Whether the RVF found a scrapyard.
Where Light's broadcasting from.
What weaknesses the Corp HQs have.
Whether the unearthed temple is in fact the Temple of Time via scrying + ANON checking (it most likely is)

That complete, we need plans:
#1: Who do we sent to ensure that no hostiles fuck with the resistance movement?
#2: Who steals the bomb from Robotnik?
#3: Who steals the slate from Wily?
#4: Who steals the gems from MetCorp?

We have a plan for re-sealing the digsite - using the Mikasa to cause a rockslide, teleporting in concrete, and (if we have any geomancers) sealing the place with rocks. We'll investigate the temple ourselves later, but it's sufficient to seal it off for 2 hours while the rest of our teams deal with their issues.

I kind of feel like if it's between Egon and Data for Wisdom, I'd go with Data.
Like isn't there a difference between wisdom and intelligence?

>>17865986
Alright, still waiting on the reports from the Inde, the RVF-25, and the Storm on their respective assignments.

>>17866005
The temple site is indeed the Temple of Time.

The planet is full of scrapyards, the RVF has no problem finding one.

ANON finally manages to locate the signal source. It's an old relay terminal within the Pipes, far under the City proper.

>>17866005
If anything, we divide the TIE-Ds and VF-25s again into groups of four. Four TIE-Ds and four VF-25s per mission should sound right.

The Mikasa might need escorts. We can opt to send the Brasta + Hyaku Shiki as additional escort, unless someone else suggests some place where we can deploy them to keep their EXP up or something.

Agrias has geomancer skills. She might need cover.

>>17866005
>#1: Who do we sent to ensure that no hostiles fuck with the resistance movement?
Both of the Al'Kesh with cloaking activated. Delta Green and UNIT troopers using anti-material sniper rifles equipped with exographic targeting scanners and micro-transporter modules.
They shoot anything that would pose a threat to the native heroes doing what they are fated to do.
>#2: Who steals the bomb from Robotnik?
SCP team and Aurors. We need to erase Robotnik's memories of the bomb. Mouse and the Sandmen to go through his files, erase data, keep security suppressed.
>#3: Who steals the slate from Wily?
KI Team with Auror and Sandmen support, for the same reasons as Robotnik raid.
>#4: Who steals the gems from MetCorp?
Psions and Shadowrunners, with the MI for heavy hitters and Mouse and the Sandmen to keep local security systems suppressed.

Where ever possible, use the Inde to beam teams in and out.

>>17866084
>>17866005
We don't need to use the Mikasa to seal the Dig Site.
Assuming that we can subdue the defenses and Metal Man, we can have Demoman rig up X-COM High Explosives to seal the Temple.

>#2: Who steals the bomb from Robotnik?
>#3: Who steals the slate from Wily?
>#4: Who steals the gems from MetCorp?


#2: Resistance would be a modded Metal Sonic.
#3. Resistance would be a ton of robot masters + Zero.
#4. Resistance would be Samus herself.

Assuming high enemy competency (most especially Samus), how would we ensure minimal or no losses against them? We need something that won't rely so hard on saving throws to get it done.

As for enemy competency.. let's assume what would Grimm do to counter us...

>>17866054
Have one of the Al'Kesh fly down while under cloak, and begin beaming up examples of the local robots and machines. Once the hold if full, come back so that Mouse and Data can go through the machinery and prepare our teams for fighting the robots and interfacing with the security systems.

Have the RVF-25 keep an eye on the City, and for when the explosions at the WilyCorp power plant start.

>>17866105
The Demoman would be better helping out the resistance in that case.

NOTE:
What specific spells would each Auror team use well to their benefit for each location?

iirc, we can make the Aurors transfigure any mook/robot resistance into piles of harmless marshmallows.

>>17865986
Well, that settles that.
>>17866054
Well, now that we know where Light is we should probably make contact. Let's see if we can send him a message.

ANON, can you determine whether there are any computers or similar tech at the Doctor's location which we can open a dialogue with?

>>17866054
Observer 1 -> Relay terminal with pipes.
If it encounters resistance, send VP-99.

Observer 2 -> Wily Corp

Observer 3 -> Robotnik HQ

Observer 4 -> Metcorp HQ

RVF-25 is to assist the Observers if possible.

Scrapyard: Beam up any destroyed Badniks or Wilybots to the Engineering team to look at. We can learn how to build them, or how to destroy them.

Other sensors keep trying to find any weaknesses in the 3 main areas.

>>17866084
Good point.

We'll need to send down, at most, 1 talkative hero to Light's HQ, since we aren't trying to do anything hostile, just say "Hi" and make sure the canon natives are all okay.

>>17866105
That said, we DO have the Mikasa, along with the Demoman, and high explosives. Might as well use what we have.

Now, since we need to preserve troops against losses, and our infiltrating forces are just that - infiltrating, not staging an all out frontal assault. Small teams of Heroes and Respawners are best, Veterans such as the Aurors and X-commies are also good, the White Mages are good at ressing, the Shadowrunner teams have done shit like this before, and the Respawning BLU team can't be lost.

So there's your loadout. Heroes, Aurors, WHMs, Shadowrunners, BLU team.

I vote we DON'T send any mechs or air units as a distraction at all, since an Alert would just make things harder for us.

>>17866139
>The Demoman would be better helping out the resistance in that case.
No he wouldn't. We're trying to minimize any contact we have with the locals.

>>17866119
I'm pretty sure with Samus we need to make sure that she turns against Metpharm and defeats Mother Brain.
So... that's a problem.
Also, Robotnik has his own badnik army, and Sonic might think Robotnik is 'his' and not take kindly to anyone else attacking the Eggman.

It's been said before, but the number one priority is to prevent anyone here from being able to go back in time. The moment that happens we get a causality loop and anything we try to do gets fucked up. In fact just being around a possible loop like this disturbs me. As for Dr. Grimm, well, we'll have to deal with him eventually, but the more crap we handle elsewhere first the better. There seems to be a lot of 'deal with this or the world dies' going on here, but the time travel one is the only one I can think of that's 'deal with this or WE die.'

Annoyingly enough, the fact that we're here and we haven't been immediately destroyed or attacked probably means that we do prevent the time travel from happening. It's still the biggest threat.

>>17866152
This DOES mean most of our troops are twiddling their thumbs on the ships, but there's enough empty space in the All Under Heaven to store an entire CITY, so no doubt they can undergo training exercises while we bugger about.

I, for one, am a bit amazed at how easily our Knights Inductor die. You'd think they'd be the toughest shit this side of Cadia, but they die like mooks.

>>17866154
Given just how big the city is, I don't think anyone will think any of our forces except the magic users are out of place.
Like just claim to be disenfranchised security teams/enforcers/mercenaries.
Hell, Spike could pretty much give his origin story with only mild modifications, and no one would bat an eye.

>>17866152
>Might as well use what we have.
Fuck no.
We only use what is necessary, not just because we have it.

We don't need to contact Light, what are we going to tell him?
Why are people in such a goddamned hurry to screw this entire operation up by contacting the natives?

>>17866152
Send Spike to talk to Light.

Where's Codeki...?

>>17866198
>We don't need to contact Light, what are we going to tell him?
"Hi. Give us your intel on enemy forces and buildings, such as how to fight A and how to infiltrate B. In return, we will warn you about some powerful shit we saw them holding."
"Okay, you seem to be on the same side as me, here you go!"
You receive loot: USEFUL INTEL!
>Why are people in such a goddamned hurry to screw this entire operation up by contacting the natives?
Because the canon disruptions might cause one of the heroes to die or be waylaid, we wish to prevent this.

The Mikasa is the only dubious choice, but seriously - in this case, the problem IS a nail, and we DO have a hammer. We need to seal off a digsite and we have a giant drill.

>>17866005
I'd like to know if our team has had any luck IDing the poor bastards that Grimm has snared. also if our aurors got a good enough read to be confident apparating.

When it comes to stealing, may I suggest we approach this like a looting mission? I'd suggest taking aurors for both missions.

For one thing, we might want to try apparaition into Robotnik's lab, ideally while he's otherwise engaged at a meeting or something. He's a businessman, we should be able to figure out a time when he won't be home. His security system probably won't factor magic into it (unless Grimm upgraded it or he's just that paranoid). Ditto Wily. Of course, we'd also have to get the information out of his mind. Perhaps if we could replace the subspace bomb with a nonfunctioning replica, perhaps with a Geminio spell. If we can, turn the copy into a portkey, then when Robotnik examines it to find out why it stopped working, we can port him to our ship for a quick mindwipe. Of course, this is contingent on our remaining undiscovered, at least not being found out as getting to his private lab. Heck, we could use metal sonic's body as a portkey, assuming that robotnik wouldn't be able to activate it before we stunned him

1/2

>>17866228
There are already outside forces trying to derail the canon by getting the heroes and canon natives killed.

>>Dey say it is dere nature, even now, even with de change. De fat one, he wants to change even dat. He cast down their world, and scarred de men and women that were heroes, but dat ain't enough for 'im.

So does anyone know what the goddesses are trying to hint at "reviving a dead world"?

>>17866228
Useful intel that we're already gathering with our superior sensors, and that we should already be able to look up because of our Meta nature.

Contact is not necessary, nor that helpful.

You are part of the problem, raidah.

>>17866241
2/?, apparently part of my comment cannot be posted.

Assuming we're going through Wily's computers, both for backups of the data and stuff for our own projects (remember, protoman!zero was the ed result of a combination of protoman's design with 'project M'-both things that should be in Wily's database), then Mouse is a sure choice. The issue is getting past security.

>>17866269
3/3, assuming that it lets me post this part.


I'm not sure how we're planning to get the Triforce, but I think we should consider using it in conjunction with Cheryl and our psychic choir to weaken Grimm for the final battle, like we did with the Pillar and Ebon Night. Of course, that's the long game, and only for if this devolves into a slugfest.

>>17866251
Something tells me you're the Raidah.
That something is "I think it's a bad idea to learn from the Canon natives how to fight against the other Canon natives", because obviously us arriving 15 minutes ago with a page from 1d4wiki and who haven't yet even SEEN any enemy forces yet on this world, will have superior intel on how to fight against enemy forces compared to the people who have been fighting here for months, and it's never a good idea for people to share intel in case someone has something the other is missing.

In short, GTFO, Spike goes down to talk to Light.

>>17866241
>>17866269
The big question is whether there's an interdiction field or a transporter jammer field set up that would prevent us from beaming a team into each lab, doing what we need to do, and then beaming out.

>>17866250
It means ending the unstoppable march of the Lemmings and halting the growth/repair of the City, restoring the nature of Hyrule.

>>17866161
The fact that the bulk of your forces are a light-week out from the planet has a lot to do with why you haven't been harassed.

>>17866269
>>getting past security

Would it be possible for Mouse to hack from a distance using the RVF-25?

Or have Mouse borrow the Cloak & Dagger?

It's a bit of a stretch, but Yang could it in the YF-19 in the Macross Plus OVAs.

>>17866292
And whether we have an accurate enough position on the labs to beam into them.

>>17866241
>>17866269
>>17866287
You make a good point.

Get the Farseers telling us how many hours we have until everything goes to shit - that will tell us if we can wait for Robotnik/Wily to be asleep or otherwise occupied or if we have to move now.

Get the Aurors scrying Thomas Light's location, see if they can identify any notable characters with him, and whether he's under attack. Planning a route to reach him and talk to him is secondary priority.

>>17866314
Ah. Then the RVF-25 and Pellaeon should work together try to find us a safe corridor that'll get us behind the Moon, to deploy our forces.

>>17866331
>>17866314
>>17866309
>>17866292
>>17866291
>>17866287
Anyone here played the Artesia RPG?

>>17866314
Allow me to help the players get a sense of distance.

The semi-major axis of Pluto's orbit is about 5.473 light-hours.

>>17866291
It's not wanting to make the situation worse with undue Meta-Contamination and the fact that yes, in many cases we do know more about the local Canon than the natives, because we have a Meta-view of things, and have near-perfect knowledge.

Your plans are only going to get us into a bigger mess.
Go back to your Looter Quest.

>>17866334
Pretty sure light and co. didn't immediately lunch into their campaign, although I concur we should avoid dallying.

>>17866292
that was my concern. Hence why I suggested insert via apparation, as that is magical and thus unlikely to be accounted for by technological means. The only flaw is if grim upgraded their security systems.

>>17866334
>And whether we have an accurate enough position on the labs to beam into them.

Well, way back in>>17862491, somebody asked if the aurors were able to ID the location of where they were scrying well enough to apparate there. Hopefully the answer will be yes, or else we find another way in.

>>17866367
Refer to the width of Pluto's orbit for the semi-major axis.

Now multiply that by about 4 times to get the distance of a light-day.

That is how far our ships are parked away from Earth.

>>17866314
And that's where most of the ships should stay while they're not being used. A light-week can be traveled by our FTL drives in a matter of minutes. The closest they should come is hiding behind Pluto and Charon.

>>17866334
As for Tosh - tell him to say "Thank you" to the goddesses.
VP-99 can co-ordinate with the RVF and Pellaeon to find a safe corridor for our forces. Yes, it's silly, but it HAS the safe path feat.

Troops Deployable:

MI Squad: 3/3 (Veteran)
X-com Squad: 12/12 (Veteran)
Delta Green Squad 12/12 (Veteran)
Abjurer Squad: 6/6, level 11 (Does this count as Veteran?)
Auror Squad: 6/6 (Veteran)

White Mage Squad: 6/6 (Ressing)
White Mage Squad: 6/6 (Ressing)
Shadowrunner Team: 12/12 (Has done this crap before)
Shadowrunner Team: 12/12 (Has done this crap before)
BLU team: 9/9 (Respawning)

Observers: 4/4

Heroes deployable:
Agrias (Holy Swordsman, Geomancer)
+ Alicia, Lavian (Swordsmen)
Cheryl (Alpha+ Psyker)
Darius (Troop commander, Tank)
Douglas (Has a Bear god)
Elaine (Expert resser, can heal mechanical)
Egon (Good at explaining to us how shit works, and can handle paranormal stuff)
Finalon (Tracker, Archer)
Lyla (Smite evil, Healer)
Mouse (Hacker)
Tosh (Stealthy, Telepathic)
Spike (Talky, Durable)
Star-Lord (Troop commander)
VP-98 (I forgot what its feats are)
VP-99 (Durable, Finds safe paths)

Forces deployable IN SPACE! or Mikasa escort:
Char (Newtype)
Crowe
Gunstar
VF-25 (Veterans)

We have 2 Al'keshes, a Mikasa, a Leopard, and teleporters.

>>17866520
don't forget wizards can apparate, although probbly can only take one person along with them (not to mention the feeling being rather unpleasant for first flyers).

>>17866520
The TIE-Ds can be escorts too.

Do you agree with "four TIEs, four valks" per mission area?

Mount Tornado packs on all 12 valks, or Tornado packs on the flight leads only.

Shall I present a video to show you guys again what the Tornado pack does?

ANON, can the transporters of either the Al'Kesh or the Inde penetrate far enough into the Pipes to get VP-99 or an Observer close enough to monitor Light?
Even if we don't contact him, we need to keep an eye on him to make sure that Grimm's agents don't kill Light.

Are we forgetting Mustadio in the roster?

>>17866589
Sending in uncloaked fighter craft into the mission area will only cause the buildings to go on alert.
Why are you trying to make this job harder for us?

>>17866520
Targets:
Dr. Wily Laboratory
Dr. Robotnik Laboratory
MetPharm Laboratory (is it on Zebes or Hyrule?)
Dig site
Light broadcast location

This is gonna be a tricky one to plan, mostly because of so many unknowns.
Going in combat-heavy at this point in time is VERY LIKELY to be a dumb move. We need to locate a safe entry point for everyone, reasonably close to the things we want to grab.

Send in the Observers first to find that safe entry point for the 3 Labs and digsite.

VP-99 and Spike, and Delta Greens can search for Dr. Light and co.. Focus on avoiding hostiles, and not starting a fight.

Don't do anything overt or forward towards any of the target sites yet. We need to have a clear deploy zone and further observer and sensor intel before we move in.

Farseers can give us an estimate of how much time we have left to plan before it's Go time.

Aurors could attempt to scry, and see if they can pinpoint Dr. Light and a path to him (as our observers are tied up at the moment).

My preliminary plan, for now, is to get stealthy troops watching those targets and sensors scanning those targets, then set up infiltration teams of stealthy/hacking/disguised bullshitty people to move in and get us intel from the inside once we have a safe place to land them.

Our Al'keshes, being cloaked, are the ONLY dropships we should be using now, as it is not time for an open fight yet.

>Are we forgetting Mustadio in the roster?

I'm assuming he's still in the Engineering bays.
Speaking of which, start beaming up random scrapped Wily and Robotnik bots to see if we can get a headstart on finding their weaknesses.

>>17866614
Aren't we out of range for beaming things up and down?

>>17866585
although a disclaimer should be made that apparating can in fact make a noise, loud enough to be mistaken for a car backfiring, although this varies.

>>17866614
Are we still going with the heavy demolitions plan with the Mikasa?

>>17866520
You forgot you have an Overlord dropship too.

It looks like a big metal egg, so I will laugh my ass off if it ends up being dropped on Robotnik.

>>17866639
I'm against it.
Not only does it have to enter orbit, enter atmo, drill down to the Dig Site through all of the aerial defenses of Wily's zone, it then also has to make good its escape.

We can do the job with Demoman and high explosives.

>>17866614
Stick to the plan.
Passive info gather -> Active info gather -> Make a plan -> Infiltrate -> Make a plan -> Assassinate -> Grab booze for holtz -> Gtfo.

We're in the "Active Info Gather" phase at the moment, which means stay stealthy, stay hidden, but get closer to danger and start scanning and talking.

>>17866639
When it's time to infiltrate we can send it in, but not yet. I don't want forces to go on high alert until we've managed to get Observers, Drones, Scanners, Sensors, Stealth teams, and Bullshit teams planetside and snooping around.

Having an Observer at the digsite may well tell us "hey, there's Anti-air turrets here", or "It looks like there are snipers here", or other such info that we'd need BEFORE we sent in the Mikasa.

>>17866644
Let's put "Drop the Overlord on the city and start all out warfare" past plan A (recon), past plan B (infiltrate), past plan C (break and enter with elite teams), past plan D (time travel), all the way down to plan E.

>>17866644
When does the Inde expect to have the scans completed?

Also, now that we've got Light's location generally figured out, can one of the Al'Kesh beam VP-99 or an Observer nearby to observe and warn of any assassins or strike teams moving against Light?

>>17866672
For instance: Being able to disguise our troops as Civilians or Wily/Met/Robotnik employees still requires preparation on our part, especially learning the Company protocols/building layouts, but is the obvious step to take after this one.

Remember: Even if you can win in a stand up fight, being more prepared than the other guy WILL save you losses. Not only are we fighting against smart people who have built an army, we're fighting against one of our own. I fully expect rushing in with only 75% preparation to result in painful death and sodomy on par with Raccoon City.

>>17866672


Honestly, I would also add some testing of how well our teleporters work here. Just sending something nondescript like a tracking device shaped like a loose screw would do. We could probe dangerous target areas and see how reactive they are to our teleporter energies. I still think that the best bet is magic'ing our way in and out. But we need to be able to get more troops down/materials out. Most of our tentative plans are hinging on teleporters working as intended. Last thing we want to do is set off a bunch of silent alarms and then have them back trace the signal to one of our ships.

>>17866644
Quick question: Did the aurors get a strogn enough reading on their scrying to be confident enough to Apparate to where they were seeing? This may seem like a somewhat late thing to consider, but it was asked in >>17862491 and never answered.

>>17866730
IIRC Trekporters have ridiculous range.

>>17866698
It'll take a few hours, and even then it won't be complete. The bases are heavily shielded. The Storm's enhanced sensors might pierce it, but it's a light week out, too far for detailed scans.

>>17866773
What's the MINIMUM force we could send, that could allow Observers + Spike + VP-99 + Delta-greens to get to the surface, and get the Oncoming Storm about 3 Moon Orbits away from earth?
Would 1 Oncoming Storm and 1 Indefatigable work?

>>17866773
>but it's a light week out
The Storm was supposed to be a few light-hours out, though, hiding behind Pluto. That was part of the plan in the last thread.
Did that part not get done?

Alright guys, let's move in closer for scans.

>>17866812
Whoops! I missed that. That's still too far for detailed scans, though. You need to be in orbit for those.

>>17866800
Yeah, that's small enough to fit on the Inde.

>>17866800
>>17866773
The range of 3 lunar orbits would put us between Hyrule and Zebes.

Why don't we stick with the plan and move in behind Pluto?

>>17866832
Is hiding behind the Moon too far for the Storm's enhanced sensors to penetrate the shielding around the HQ's?

Does the debris field extend past lunar orbit?

>>17866854
>>17866844
>>17866832
Basically:
We want Scans but Not getting shot.
How do?
We can always derp behind Jupiter, get a shot of the things in orbit, relay their capabilities to Pellaeon, and ask Pellaeon what our likely "Closest safe approach" is.

Is it behind the moon?
Is it a few moon-orbits away?
Is it further? Closer?

>>17866871
The RVF-25 and the Inde are already in orbit and in the debris field.
We can already get a picture of what's there, and a scan of their capabilities.

>>17866901
Not with the STORM'S ADVANCED SCANNERS, sadly!

>>17866901
But you make a good point. The Inde alone can get Observers, Spike, VP-99, and Delta Greens planetside on mission: Find Light.

However, this proposal has 1 person who thinks it will cause too much canon contamination to be worth the risk of doing do, and 1 person who thinks the potential gains outweigh the risks.

Whose side do you fall on, noble Transpace Guardians?

>>17866965

I vote we go into find Light. We are going to have to go down at some point, and I think we are already on the clock. We will need to make sure we can get down undetected, but otherwise we need to get a recon team on the ground. Be it probes or people, there is information the needs getting. We can observe for now. If contact is deemed necessary, we can decide then. I want to know what the good Doctor has been up to. AND MAKE UP OUR COVER STORY AHEAD OF TIME. They will learn nothing of the Meta. We are just heroes who heard the call and want to help. We also just happen to have friends who know things.

>>17866965
What's at stake is whether we make contact, or simply protect Light and his Army from the shadows.
Given our equipment, our weapons, the troops at our disposal, we can do our job without complicating it any further by interacting with the Canon characters.

We only need a droid or observation team to watch Light and make sure he's not assassinated.

>>17867043
Right. Here's the cover story.
Spike, and the DGs, are people who live locally and have worked for a small-scale security setup that really isn't into politics or megacorps.
VP-99 is company property.
They are curious about the message.

>>17867048
There's certainly the contamination aspect, but I believe it's worth risking the contamination of a random group of mercs/private security talking to Light to swap tactical info, in order to learn more about enemy combat capabilities.
You disagree, and I can respect that, but I think that going in WITHOUT that information will lead to our asses being kicked at least 25% harder, and possibly up to 50% harder.

>>17867048
And to say "We can do this with what we have without canon help" is probably true, but emphasis on the "probably". If the enemy has 20 Quick Men then we're in for quite the world of pain.

>>17867139
Our opponent is just as smart as we are (we're talking former TG/Editors-tier here; in other words, former -US-). If we can think of a plan, they already have something planned to counter us.

>>17867166
Hmm, true. Do you think it's worth the risk of talking to Dr. Light, though?

>>17867166
For instance. Suppose I wanted to make an impossible to beat world.
I'd put all my valuable shit in an underground location surrounded by all my toughest dudes and strongest traps, I'd have reconnaisance units on every street corner, I'd have a fleet of hard-hitting stealthy glass cannons, whether as an airforce, a SWAT team, a fleet force, or all three.
I'd have Reality distortion-finding telescopes aimed at the sky at all times, knowing that kilometer long spaceships from outside the canon make reality distortions. I'd find them, and while they're not suspecting, I'd fire c-fractional kinetic weaponry at them.
Most importantly, I'd set up the populace so that any direct GO IN AND SHEWT ALL THE THINGS approach turns the people against the invaders, leaving the invaders to fight against what they try to save,
and any GO IN AND BE STEALTHY approach I allow to work, and feed my enemies enough misinformation to let them walk into a trap.

>>17867203
If the enemy opts to hold back its forces to gather intel I will do likewise, and prepare a stealth flank or backstab attack on them for when they do move forward.

Basically, play it like you know it, win it like you mean it.

And we're autosaging.

>>17867233
My weakness would be a group of people who disguise themselves as natives, making them hard to find and kill, and who steadily convince my own populace to turn against me by showing them of my evil.
They would be using my own force against me.

>>17867233
As useful as some of your posts can be, do you just enjoy seeing your own posts? Do like the sound of your own voice?

Faster-than-light sensor systems would detect any weapon launches aimed at the task force.
The reason why we are doing our own intel-gathering via our own sensors and personnel is because false information could have been fed to Canon natives, which would get fed to us.

>>17867259
So basically...

Eurocorp agents armed with gauss rifles and persuadertrons, backed up by Aurors who will not hesitate to use the Imperio curse on people.

>>17867288
> do you just enjoy seeing your own posts? Do like the sound of your own voice?
Yes.

MetaOP, will you be making another post?
Was there any actionable posts in the last hour?

When is the next session?

Next thread on Friday! Seeya there!

Think of it this way. If Wily has a fortress on this world, you can be sure it's ALL fucking Quick Lasers.

And you don't have Time Stopper.

If my guess is correct, the worst nightmare combination in that context is:

MSF troopers + Eurocorp + Aurors + GiTS + Deus Ex

led by Kiichi Gotou.

... right?

>>17867338
See you then, MetaOP.

>>17867338
Roger that.
I'll see if I can be up at 18:00 Board Time for a session of Bootleg Quest. But if I'm not awake, then don't bother waiting.

It's a Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup run!
The team is picked and ready to roll. Only problem is OP likes sleeping a lot.

Have a picture of some Bootleg video game console.

>>17867367
Specify: 18:00 board time today, Thursday.

Friday is Main quest time.