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(oh boi oh boi oh boi)

Improve Architecture
Explore East
Interrogate Prisoners

>>18062118
(Well, I thought we were going to sacrifice the prisoners. Maybe even keep their younger young and make them our own. How long has it been since the battle?)

>>18062178
Not sure, just joined the thread so Im a bit unfamiliar with the situation, I have a basic understanding though. I like your idea better though, so lets do that

C. Special
1. Interrogate captured LizardFolk
2. Build Jail
3. Explore forest of Moans
4. Sacrifice captives to
a. The Divine Mother: The Winged Serpent
b. The Father of War: He Who Thirsts

My apologies. THIS IS WHY THERE IS A COUNCIL.

(A friend of mine recommended I join in. I'm new, and any help would be appreciated. If we have characters, I'd like to be the guy doing the exploring, if at all possible.)

Zounds! I have been waiting for this for ages!

(Shall I post the charts,flags, crests, and religious iconography I made?)

>>18062232
(do eeet anybody else from the old guard here? scaled lizard here...took a new name as suggested after the show)

(Did we capture any of the enemy's children? I still want to sacrifice them to Coatliuitl, The Feathered Serpent.)

Improve Architecture
Explore the island
And explore the Forest of Moans

>>18062263
Also A3

We need defenses! Those that may have escaped our fury are sure to tell their masters of our presence!

>>18062226
Players take up names, this is interpreted as "Joining the Council"

You can have your council member have whatever type of personality you would like. If you'd like to explore, convince the other council members to pick the explore option. Or petition going out with some men yourself.

>>18062178
24 hours.

>>18062232
That would be great

>>18062263
5 young LizardFolk with the Captives. They were to learn to become warriors. They have been unwilling to cooperate with you so far however.

>>18062299
will do!

Alt Banner of the Amazolli

Improve Architecture
explore south
Interrogate captured LizardFolk

Warbanner of the Dwarf Clan Untärkin

Also, Council members can be from either the Dwarven people or your Lizardkin.

Role Play is optional, but preferred.

>>18062299
This one thinks that if there are no hatchlings, the prisoners are best left to the sacrifice. Mayhaps we can press them for information.

>>18062299
Just joined the Council.
I would say that we give it time before we recruit them. Once they are isolated from their people long enough they wont feel as loyal to their country, and will be easier to persuade

Religious iconography of He Who Thirsts and other signs people seemed to like.

>>18062299

We do not need their cooperation. Bind them and their womenfolk. My shadowscales and I will take her to Coatliuitl's shrine in the mountain and their lifeblood shall cover her effigy and she will feast on their souls. We will gain The Feathered Serpent's favor by feeding her once-children to her.

Joining the council.
A.
Improve tech, it will leak into all parts of society and is an all round bonus.

B.
Explore south east, following the river. Hopefully we can find some where to retreat to and rebuild should SHTF.

C.
Can we interrogate then sacrifice?

>>18062349
Recruit them? These are the children of the new ways! The perversion of our ancestral gods! They deserve only death!

Mark of Armok, Omzg and Teiwaz the Dwarven gods of Blood, Harvest and Forging.

(the last two are named only for the Furhark runes I randomly picked for their names, their names, colors and functions can change at the vote of other Dwarven players I guess, but Armok has already been defined. I just think It'd be best if we had more than just a Blood god you know?)

>>18062360
I agree now, 5 new recruits is not worth the hassle, I say we sacrifice them now so that we may gain the blessings that The Divine Mother has to offer.

And finally all the current concrete info on the Dwarf Clan Untärkin based on facts, players and the OP.

Any other Dwarves about? I'd hate to do all the political buisiness on my own.

Joining the Council

Serris agrees with Fire Horn and Coatlicue about sacrificing these... prisoners. After the sacrifice though, Serris wishes to swim across the lake with a small warband to scout the inner islands.

>>18062409
>>18062395
It looks as though the Council has come to an agreement, the scum shall be sacrificed at once, that is where they will best serve our people, dead and giving us the favor of our gods.

>>18062440
This one asks that you are aware that the first kin that we lost was lost on the island. Mayhaps we should look to further armoring ourselves, for though our scales are strong, many of our kin perished to the weapons of the once-kin. This one is thinking we can use the bones of the fast-horned ones in the woods as asecond set of scales.

>>18062390
Changing name, misjudged tone.

And I'll play a dwarf, Dorum Highhalls Dwarven military advisor.

>>18062486
I would remind Fire Horn that, while his reservations are wise, Swimmer-of-Lake was slain on the island some time ago. Our people have advanced far since then.

>>18062486
We must explore that island to see what killed one of us when we were but newly given upon this land

>>18062520
>>18062511
This one agrees completely. He merely wanted his kin to be aware that they stride towards danger.

>>18062500
Brother!

>>18062541
Yes, and a wise sentiment indeed. The island is still much of a mystery to us, and that is dangerous.

>>18062560
Brother!

>>18062486
Serris understands your dilemma, Fire Horn. Our brother did indeed fall on that island, but you must understand: he was just "one" of us. As strong as we may be, Serris knows that the many can overpower the one.

Claiming that island for our own will give our people a bastion in terrible times, with its natural defenses from every side will give us a keen advantage over any other.

>>18062600
A second village established on the island would be fortuitous. A great defensive position.

The time has come. For over a year your people have lived in the shadow of Zetharn, but no more. You have won the battle and thoroughly announced your presence.
The council informs their respective Clan that the time to erect the tower of The Feathered Serpent.
> Choose location of the tower.
> Construction for Tower begins. Completed in 15 days.

A scouting party is sent South east along the river, finding a fork and the beginning of a swamp.

The captives (numbering 13) are divided. There are 5 Young Scales and 2 Lizardwomen.
The specifics of what Coatlicue and her Shadow Scales, do in there ritual to the Divine Mother, are up to her. (specifics please)

The group of 7 Lizardmen are unwilling to talk, most are even unwilling to eat.

How do you proceed?

Population: 102
Shadow Scales: 25
Food: High- Fishing
Architecture: Fair. Mostly wooden housing w/ under dens.
Weaponry: Iron- Spears, Bows, shortswords, basic bucklers
Tech: Moderate-High
Defenses: None

What are your people to do?

Improve
1. Tech
2. Weaponry
3. Architecture (includes housing and defense)

B. Explore
1. North
2. East
3. South
4. West

C. Special
1. Explore Island
2. Build Jail
3. Explore forest of Moans
4.Explore river
a. east
b.west

>>18062560

So Kogi, what is our millitary situation like? Should we need to assist our lizardy brethren I'd like to know what we can throw around.

(also are we controlling two civilizations here, the dwarves and the lizardfol or just the lizardfolk?)

>>18062589
so since you are the only one about, what think you of the Gods?
>>18062404
(any input would be lovely, especially for Omzg. Because I can only see a Dwarven Harvest god pertaining strictly to Alcohol production...)

We must work on our defenses and we must take over that island and turn it in to the gem of our tribe!

>>18062655
Ah, well our army is actually rather small. But due to our wonderful Arms/Armor making I'd imagine we'd more than an ample foe. But I really dont think we have the numbers to aid them in any way other than outfitting them with better equipment.


though... A certain Tribunal member (me) did have some family connections with some rather shifty, stealthy Dwarves who'd help them out for the right price. Though that may not be the best choice of action. Besides, I done even know the whole story of this conflict.

>>18062655
The Dwarven Council members control the Dwarfs.

Their population is 97, excluding children.

You may command them as you wish.

>>18062657

I worship the Gods of the Old Way. I don't really understand why flint and those others would abandon ship so quickly to these new gods.

Armok has his place to be sure. Aye, as a soldier you have to respect him but no be beholden to him. It be a fine line.

Omzg is friend to any dwarf with a thirst, hunger or need. I feel he could use more attention in our homes and our hall.

I know little of Teiwaz, but his worshippers make my arms armour and thus deserve my respect.

>>18062644
Improve our architecture. As strong as we are, a village without walls will be wheat to the scythe, after all.

Serris wishes for a small band of able-bodied kinsman to cross the lake and explore the island, personally leading this expedition. However, Serris will wait for the sacrifice of the other kin, as a boon from the gods will be greatly appreciated to furthering this cause.

>>18062726
"The Old Ways" pertain to the LizardFolk, but many of the Dwarven people have begun worshiping them alongside their Lizardkin.

>>18062675
It would be free to expand and grow without danger of enemy attack, it would be wise to make it our Capital, and focus on its growth once we are able to sustain it. We should upgrade Architecture until we have proper defensive structures, and then focus on weaponry to protect ourselves further. Then we can focus on expansion, and taking more land.
Let us take the island, I will venture with you, I have a small band of Elven Archers from my homeland still loyal to me, and they would gladly fight for our cause, since I have disassociated myself with them long ago.

Set up a camp on the Island when we arrive, then we can expand it while my men protect and patrol the area around it.

>>18062750
Derp, I was getting that off the dwarven information graphic. Either way I'm faithful the the dwarven gods.

>>18062720
Kogi, do you think we could offer the lizardfolk a few soldiers (15?) to help guard the construction of this sky tower in the mountains?

>>18062644
This one believes we should explore and secure the island. Mayhaps we can use the trees on it to build a great many boats and other buildings. Perhaps the stout-ones can help us to build a structure on the island that can be used to observe the surrounding area and defense.

>>18062726
Well as Fathom-Forgebare I suppose I speak for Teiwaz whenever I make a machine.

And you know, I feel the same way, We surely should offer some sort of gift to Omzg.
A great feast perhaps....

(think you'd want to add Military Adviser (or something more Dwarf sounding) after your name, so I remember it, and also because there are so few of us Dwarves here, I'll put you on the chart!)

>>18062786
This sounds very good to this one we can have a true safe haven from our enemies

>>18062737
Ok then, I shall join you with my Archers, so that we can protect your men while there. Many of the gods my men worship are those of the stars and of Nature, if it would be preferable I could get them to follow the gods of the LizardMen as well, and their connections with the Forest gods will surely help us if the terrain on the island is a forest.
Take your men, we shall go at once after the sacrifice has been completed.

>>18062779
For defensive purposes? We can surely allow that!

>>18062644
We Shadowscales will bring the younglings and womenfolk to the shrine of our mother goddess, Coatliuitl, the Feathered Serpent, to be sacrificed. The children shall be sacrificed first, their blood and organs will be as sweet meats to our goddess, The Mother Who Devours Our Own. Then shall come the womenfolk, their eyes plucked from their eyes so that they may never know her beauty, their ears filled with wax that they may never hear her voice, and their tongues removed that they may never speak her name in vain. They shall have their bellies split open, their unfertilized eggs, children to never be, removed, one eaten by each of we, Her most blessed daughters, and the remainder placed upon Her altar. After their younglings have died and their bodies been made barren, they shall be slain, one at a time, on our goddess's altar, their dying screams a beautiful melody to our great and terrible mother. And our great mother, Coatliuitl, The Feathered Serpent, She Who Dwells Within the Mountain, The Giver and Destroyer, She Who Slumbers With Dreams of Kinslaying, will give our tribe her blessing and their tribe her curse. Her taste for her offspring's blood will be set upon them, and her favor upon us. Praise Coatliuitl! Praise The Feathered Serpent!

>>18062832
That title sound good?
>>18062807
Excellent I shall gather 15 of our warriors and we shall embark to the tower as soon as we can muster.

>>18062837
We will most likely have arrived back at the mainland once the tower has been completed. Perhaps we could offer some prisoners taken on the island to be sacrificed there? We could send them by boat to the tower, and let you handle the rest.

>>18062837
(that's fucked up, yo)

>>18062872
Alright, tell them to be wary, while they have been kind to us... The ways of the Scalefolk are still strange to us.

(wonderful title, any specifics you want me to add to the chart? Actually it may be best to wait and see)

>>18062878
If they are among our hated brethren, the Zetharn blasphemers and betrayers of the Old Ways, then their sacrifices will be welcomed. Our mother goddess hungers most for the young and womenfolk for they are closer to Her. If they are not made in her image, sacrifice to her is meaningless. Their blood lost in battle would be a better reverence to Eztliamiqui, the Great Father, He Who Thirsts, opposite to the Mother.

>>18062837

If there are prisoners worthy of sacrifice, they shall be sacrificed as well if they are unwilling to work with us.

>>18062878
Serris will gather his men (12 including a few shadowscales if possible?) and meet you at the banks. May the gods watch over us on this journey.

>>18062947
Aye, I will do.

>Dwarves send 15 Dwarven Warriors to defend the construction of the Tower once it has been chosen

(waiting out.)

>>18062949
>>18062969
Perhaps we could build the tower on the island?

>>18062969
(also, you are a member of the Tribunal as of now, what with us two being the only Dwarves here. Cool huh?)

As for the site for the Tower of the Feathered Serpent, the mountain is her favored terrain and thus building upon one would be most in her honor. Then again, the island would be the most strategic site... And what is an island more than a mountain whose base is underwater?

>>18062980
That would make our soldiers a bit more difficult to procure. Maybe explore the island before you dedicate any construction to it Scaled-brother?

There are no elves that you know of. The only races known to you are Humans, LizardFolk and Dwarves.

You'll find out later.

Sorry about the late post Capacha wasn't showing up.

>>18062980
This one thought that that is what his kin had decided. Mayhaps the stout-ones can send builders to aid us in the construction.

>>18063019
This was to you
>>18062759

>>18063002
(Woo political position!)

>>18063041
>they want to build a monolithic tower on an island
Eh... They've tested the island for the bedrock deposits needed to hold such a structure right?

(also, putting you down as faithful to Armok due to you being a soldier and all.)

>>18063081
It was merely a suggestion if the island is unsuitable we can look elsewhere

>>18063081
I doubt it, As far as I can be sure, this will be their first stone structure...

>>18063081
Our Dwarven brother makes a good point. We have yet to explore this island, meet its inhabitants, and even learn of its ability to support a monument to our divine mother's great fury. The island is a romantic proposition, as I will admit, but we must move slowly here lest we make a rash decision and the tower falls.

>>18062644
>Improve Architecture
Better defenses and living conditions make for happy citizens and better living conditions. Better living conditions will encourage population growth.

>explore east
The southern swamp likely won't be very useful to us immediately and the east is largely unexplored.

>Explore island
The island may be a good location for some future settlement if we can improve our ships to the point that they are superior to our enemies.

>>18063123
Mayhaps we can send our scouting party first and once they have set up a secure encampment the stout-ones builders and defenders can go to the island and survey the land while our scouts continue to explore the island?

(Untärkin chart updated)

Choose tower Placement

A, B, C, or D?

(From left to right)

>>18062837
My god. It beautiful.

Upon the alter appears a 5 black feathers. A voice speaks to all present at the ritual

"YOU HAVE PLEASE YOUR GODDESS WITH YOUR UNDYING SERVITUDE. TAKE THESE, FEATHERS FROM MY VERY OWN WING. WITH EACH, SPEAK YOUR WISH AND IT WILL COME TO BE. USE THEM WISELY"

>5 Feathers of Coatliuitl obtained

>>18063197
Dwarven military opinion.

A: Explore the island first, it needs to be assessed for security and engineering.

B: No. Sure the open terrain gives benefit to watch but it can be attacked from any direction, no befitting your godess.

C/D: both viable choices,

>>18063197
What should we wish for brethren, free upgrades in Architecture/Tech/Weaponry? More soldiers? What should we do with these feathers?

>>18063197
If it is possible we should try to build it on A but we must first ask the stout ones but if we cant we should look at C

>>18063263
This is Coatlicue's decision. She may take suggestions, but the use of these artifacts are entirely up to her.

Honestly from one Builder to another (potential) Builder, I'd surround this Tower with a fortress at the base if it's of such importance to ye. All after full exploration of course.

A Star-fortress would be just lovely

>>18063251
(You know, I'm thinking we should make the structure a light house. Build a larger one on the island and then make a smaller one on the sight of B. Can also make B a ritualistic fighting pit/sacrifice altar. Even better if it's a cliff or point.)

Someone is impersonating me as ringed tooth so im going to start tripping ignore this post>>18063300

>>18063317
Aye, this fella has the right idea!

>>18063317
Thats a pretty good idea along with
>>18063306

>>18063251
We take these feathers of our divine mother and sing her praises. We fashion a crown of reeds and place the feathers upon it, dubbing it Iuitlcuaitl, the Feathered Crown, symbol of the Chihtli Cuetzpalin, the Grandmother Lizard, Reverent Mother of The Feathered Serpent.

(C)

I propose the tower to our divine mother be placed on the site of our glorious victory over our hated brethren! The blood spilled in its place and the prisoners executed afterwards will please both the mother Coatliuitl and the father Eztliamiqui. A twofold union, as befitting our tribe and the old ways.

>>18063263

We can use one feather now on something. If we come to a consensus, I will allow it, but these are a gift from our divine mother and should be used sparingly.

(I'm thinking use a feather right before a fight so that we can totally murder everybody)

You know, I bet I could use one of those feathers to forge a rather mighty blade....

>>18063416
Perhaps we can use a feather to learn the secret of magic so that we can become closer to our gods!

>>18063456
Would they let you use one for the good of the dwarves?

>>18063465
I dont know about good-of-the-dwarves seeing that we dont really have any outright enemies as of yet... But it'd certainly make a mighty gift that'd seal a friendship for good.

But thats just one old Blacksmiths opinion.

>>18063456
... You aren't getting a giant sword.

>>18063462
Eztliamiqui, He Who Thirsts has bestowed the power of fire upon Fire Horn. He is the only one among the Amazolli to be able to use magic.

>>18063456
A blade stronger than the likes of any mortal eyes have seen, the idea is certainly an intoxicating one. However, if there were a blade as mighty as that, it would have to be wielded by the hero of our people. For now, Serris sees many worthy Amazolli, but no heroes. For now, his recommendation is to save them for times of need.

We could ask our Divine Mother for her magics. Her domains would be Air and Earth. Her gifts tend to favor females, and she is fickle. Using her gift so soon might anger her. The power over the wind or stone would be great indeed, however. To summon lightning from the skies on our foes...

>>18063465
I the meantime we should organise our feast to the Omzg

>>18063492
The Humans had been sending parties for your people for a long while. These stopped just before the The Battle of the Scorched Canyon.

>>18063511
>>18063531
(Yeah dude, maybe Omzg will give you inspiration to craft a sword of the greatest craftdwarfship)

This one thinks that the feathers should be stored away rather than squandered. For now this one's kin is fine working for what they have.

>>18063502
Dwarven magic is forge/architecture-based in this instance yes? Or are we wholly industrial in this game.

>>18063511
We could certainly teach your kind to make such blades the likes of which your race would never know.

>>18063531
Oh goodness yes, I need to get drunk.
>>18063549
heh, Im sure Teiwaz would have some issues with that.

>>18063566
Actually, your two races were the only playable ones without magic.

But if it helps, your people are exceptionally good with metal work and stone masonry. You have no need for magic.

>>18063566
This one has been trying to learn the secrets of your fire fathers since he first travelled to your mountain-home.

Final decisions must be made for each.

A. Improve
1. Tech
2. Weaponry
3. Architecture (includes housing and defense)

B. Explore
1. North
2. East
3. South
4. West
5. Explore river
a. east
b.west

C. Special
1. Explore Island
2. Build Jail
3. Explore forest of Moans

>>18063251
What is to be the location of the tower?

>>18063589
(wonderful! I am actually pretty happy about that, magic is fussy and always far to gitchy to deal with. also, after the Feast of Omzg, a pop boost would be lovely)

>>18063531
as I am thinking of the feast, think we could hold it in one of our many above-ground forts? I cant see the general population taking kindly to a bunch of strange serpentfolk running about, it'd probably be best to introduce them to the general population slowly eh?

>>18063633
Improve architecture.
Explore island. (I will lead a small warband to scout/cleanse the place)
???
Profit

>>18063633
are these for us Dwarves too?

>>18063633
This one suggests his kin try to make a second set of scales from the bones of prey. (Like deer bones or something if we have hunters out.) Mayhaps we can send scouts out to explore the island and prepare for construction.

>>18063691
yes, you are part of the council. You have a say in what happens.

>>18063633
I want to improve Architecture and explore The Forest of Moans I'll leave the tower to The Blooded Midwife

>>18063633
C1

Explore the island. Its location is too valuable to leave to whatever heathens inhabit it.

C (or A)

My vote for the battleground where the hated Zetharn fell still stands, however, should there be more glorious battle upon the island, the blood spilled there will suffice. If the island can indeed support the tower in reverence to the union of our divine mother and father, then I would prefer it built there.

For the population is it normal lizardkin + shadow scales or its it all together (like 102+25=127 or 77+25=102)

>>18063709
ah well I think tapping the northern desert for Oil/fancy ore is a good idea.
Dorum, what do you think?

l lizardkin + shadow scales

Total is 127

>>18063710
>>18063681
Improving our defenses would be wise. Atl's only defense is her warriors, an earthen wall and palisade would help greatly should we ever be attacked.

>>18063742
What would you do with oil?

Also it would take years to learn to refine it, not to mention learn to harvest.

In character, why would Dwarves try to dig through an ocean of sand? (I'm not saying "UR IDEAZ R DUM THINK BETTAR"

I'm just trying to think of your reasoning for your character to want to

>>18063835
(In the account of oil, we'd be better off trying to catch any big fish from the lake or a nearby ocean and harvest them for oil aswell as food and bones/ivory, etc.)

>>18063835
>In character, why would Dwarves try to dig through an ocean of sand?
Through? you misunderstand, I mean UNDER.
(though now that I think of it, drill/wind driven ships could hypothetically sail across sand like a boat would, so exploration above the sands would work too, and it'd be painfully efficient for shipping once we "sail" to the deserts edge)

Also, I really had no gauge on what our level of industrialization was, since oil would be no use to us I guess its about pre-steam engine then? Also there are usually large deposits of fresh water and not to mention the high quality iron ore that is usually found under that.

>>18063921
>mfw dwarven Road Warrior

>>18063921
(fuck I put the wrong name.)

(I have to vacate for a while. be back in around an hour.)

>>18063996
I'll hold the fort.

YES! I'm finally unbanned.

Anyway, since this started up I've been wanting to tell you what a wonderful rendition this is of the system I brought over. Absolutely great job OP.

The Dwarves hold a feast!
Livelihood and merriment are abound!
The Dwarven God Omzg is surely pleased. Every Dwarf feel something stir from within. As if their natural combat prowess has actually risen.
> Every Dwarf has natural combat training

A scouting party is sent to the island. Lead by the Council member Serris. You take with you a band of 12, setting up camp on the island.
>you are in control of everything the scouting party here does.

Two construction projects begin.
The first is a wood wall around The lizardFolk village. It is only a few foot in height now but is growing.
The second is of the Sacred Tower. Even at it's meager height, great distances can be seen.

What are you to do with the remaining prisoners?

A. Improve
1. Tech
2. Weaponry
3. Architecture (includes housing and defense)

B. Explore
1. North
2. East
3. South
4. West
5. Explore river
a. east
b.west

C. Special
1. Explore Northern Obstruction
2. Build Jail
3. Explore forest of Moans

>>18064046
Where you the OP I took over for, way back when? Or just laying claim to the pioneering or Civ Threads on /tg/?

>>18064077
I'm the OP you took over for, I do believe. It involved a group of humans who started off in the mountains, became slaves to the Dwarves, rebelled, won, and then started an empire, right?

>>18063921
I'd say mid- iron age.

>>18064058
A1

We need to improve our boats. They will be needed to send supplies to Serris' outpost on the island and keep us updated on his situation.

>>18064091
I honestly don't remember. The rebelling humans does not ring any sort of bell. I'll assume I was though!

Here to play?

We should build a network of tunnels under the town along with building the wall with the help of the stout ones

>>18064091
I remember that game, I played in the first couple threads.

>>18064058
never thought Omzg was the combat type, but I guess all dwarf gods are I suppose. I bet he's for Defensive combat.

Anyway how about a settlement/fortress right where the mountains meet the sea? It'd give us some room to trade better with the lizardfolk and also open us up to exploration!
It'll be called Ogmztown in honor of his recent feast.

>>18064112
This one agrees. He still suggests improving our armor. (Does anybody else see the block of humans in the top to the left of the mountains? Just on the edge of our view.)

>>18064124
I second this! Not all of us like traveling above ground!

>>18064119
But of course.

A1, B5b (Who knows what is to the south-east), and C...3

I figure we need to improve our tech all around, since it's almost assured the enemy will be bringing superior numbers. We need superior tech to make superior weaponry. As I said, we need to explore the river to the south west to see, well, what's there. Could be a gold mine, could be a hoard of goblins. As for the forest, if our people say it's haunted then it's probably got SOMETHING in it. Probably elves or monsters.

>>18064124
We actually wanted a warren of tunnels underneath our village before we ever met the dwarves. Now would be a good time to bring those ideas to light.

>>18064124
You have got the construction of a wall and a tower. Assuming the Dwarves are already aiding support. That is still a lot on your plate.

>>18064144
Your current city is actually completely underground. I'll allow the construction of a 2nd, but no one really knows if there is an ocean.

>>18064181
well I guess we'd only ever know about the oceans existence only due to our natural affinity to the undoubtedly massive natural cave system under the mountain range. I guess we should be exploring the cave system till we hit water then? Its not like we'd ever leave the underground.

>I'm Alfonso, will be changing my name to fit the vibe. I'll play as a Lizardfolk, but would anyone mind giving me a run down of the currently occupied council positions of the Amazolli?

>>18064245
There isn't any set positions we're just on the council and we just debate and decide what we want to do

>>18064245

I think the only actual positions other than general adviser positions are the representatives of the gods. I'm the representative of the mother goddess, Coatliuitl, and I think Crown or Ringed Tooth is the representative of the father god, Eztliamiqui, but Fire Horn is blessed by him, I'm not sure if the representation has changed or what.

>>18064278
This is up for you all to decide.

>>18064278
Crown and Ringed Tooth are one and the same someone used my name so i switched to this and I don't think i represent the father god at least i wasn't told at such

>>18063681
Serris still here?

You are in charge of the Group on the island.

>>18064112
This is about the style of boat you have currently. w/ or w/o the figurehead. That's more of your decision.

>>18062263
We could go with the Dragon Pass sort of deal, excluding the representatives of the gods. We could have a military leader, an agricultural leader, a healer, a trickster, a merchant, all that stuff.

>>18064310

Yeah that's what I was trying to say, sorry if it was too vague.

Alright, caught up on what I missed (Ocean/large lake to the south west, my bad). Regardless I think we should explore the forest and improve our tech. Not really sure where we should explore though. I'd say we could try and identify for certain what is to the south west at the source of the river but, might be an unnecessary use of lizard power.

>>18064349
Based on this, we need better ships to even begin thinking about expansion onto the island. The ship would either sink or we'd need dozens of them to ship over all the materials one by one.

>>18064349

We should definitely have a Coatl as a head for our boats. I want to make bigger ones, though, for transport of many lizards and dwarfs. I also want to eventually have a floating city like Tenochtitlan built off of our new settlement on the island. We just won't let the spaniards inside.

>>18064365
It's fine and i can be the speaker for the father god
>>18064316
I can take over the scouting mission if he left

>>18064316
>>18064058

(Yes! I'm still here. I apologize, I was caught up killing xenos in Dawn of War.)

We shall scout along the coast line close to our landing area as well as the grasslands surrounding the forest. After some initial scouting, start setting up a base camp. That shouldn't take too long. If there is still daylight left, Serris will take 9 of his warriors and start scouting the forest before nightfall. The other three will hold initial guard duty.

>>18064409
You're shipped to the island.

>>18064434
He's back but I'll stay on the Island if he needs any advice or help

>>18064409
(again, I apologize for the delay. You can be my battle brother. Also, it's nice having another PC around)

>>18064452
>>18064448
>>18064434

I'll send a Shadowscale to assist the malefolk and remind them that this expedition is important to us all. She'll answer to Serris being as he's in charge.

>>18064452
That sounds very appealing to this one

>>18064434
painfully sorry but I'll have to call it a night OP. I just cant stay awake much longer. I'll leave you with this: The Preliminary plans for Omzgtown have been laid out and we are currently looking for locations to put it, preferably near the sea. If Dorum comes back he can decide.

>>18064507
Alright, I'll Email you the archive if the thread 404's.

>>18064418
after scouting the coast and the initial grasslands around the forest your search bears no fruit.

A base camp is set between the coast and forest.

It is late evening, the party of 10 (including the newly arrived Shadow Scale) is sent to scout the forest.
Near the edges the forest seems normal but near it's center something odd is found.

The Long dead corpses of 12 Human soldiers.

It is around Dusk. The sun is setting and It's getting dark. What do you do?

>>18064393
How exactly would your floating city stay.. well, afloat?

>>18064573
We ship massive amounts of land into the lake, to the point that we create gardens, islands, homes... We would be the masters of the land, living where we desire, not where we must.

Alternatively, we could live harmoniously with the land, by creating large platforms. The platforms would be hollow, and anchored to the ground, or perhaps to each other. It would require much more effort though, and I'm not sure we have the proper materials to do such a thing. Dried mud or clay would surely fall apart if used to accomplish this method.

>>18064607
The LizardFolk are Harvesting Lumber.

>>18064626
We COULD lash a mass of logs together, but this would be temporary at best. Far too unreliable to build a city on top of. The logs would be perfect for anchoring the platforms to the ground though.

>>18064573

I need to look up how the Aztecs did it. Maybe we could just pray to our gods to let it stay afloat.

>>18064648
We could just clear the island of trees and level it out and use that dirt to expand it

>>18064652
Lake Texcoco was incredibly shallow..

>>18064648

We have time on our side. I mean we don't even have a city yet.

>>18064660
Ah, okay. Guess they just called it the "floating city" when it wasn't really. But the Aztecs didn't have dwarfs!

>>18064658
seems unconventional. The idea was to build a floating city. If you fill the lake, then it's not really "floating"

If the Players can think of a plausible way. You can make a vote on it.

>>18064658
I like this. We could use the lumber gained from clearing the Island for building homes and other buildings.

>>18064660
I believe they also drained the lake, or maybe they drained a swamp and expanded into it. I can never remember.

>>18064689
receding swamp line I believe.

>>18064452
Serris, will you be playing with us?

>>18064553
12 human corpses? Well, this certainly bodes ill. Leave the corpses behind for now and return to camp. The three on guard duty are relieved. As for watches:

First watch (dusk until approximately midnight): Serris with two warriors
Second Watch (midnight until before dawn): Crown, the shadowscale, and one warrior
Third Watch (dawn until noon): Three warriors

The day watch will be held by the three original guards. If they are attacked, have them utilize a signal of some kind, be it smoke or sound. At this point, Serris wishes he brought a gong with him.

>>18064715
You and your men are halfway out of the forest.

roll 1d20

(Alright, I'm going to get going for the night, I'll catch you guys tomorrow. And my two sense: I don't really like the idea of destroying the lake or island. I'd rather live on/below them. We could build a cave system under the island or build a tower on it and have that be the start of a city. We could also build a fleet of boats that just allows go around the lake and have that be a city or build what amounts to houses on stilts that are strung together with bridges. Another possibility is we develope the traits to live beneath the water and move down there, with a constant presence of our people on the island and surrounding shores to keep an eye on what's above and keep in contact with the dwarves.)

>>18064686
>If only we had concrete, it would be easy.

Hmm, we could create a series of wooden platforms and link them together like puzzle pieces, They would be floated out into the lake and anchored by wooden post hammered into the lake bed, perhaps? The wood would expand in the water so, even if we were able to fit them into the spaces they wouldn't be able to move around once linked. The wood would rot with time though, and we would need a method to make the structures permanent. There are also issues with stability. A boat can tip and so can a platform.

>>18064730
(Oh boy...)

>>18064741
>We could also build a fleet of boats that just allows go around the lake and have that be a city
>houses on stilts

(That sounds awesome! Like those boat cities the Vietnamese have? I love this idea also!)

>>18064741
Alright, again it's been fun. Bump in the morning if the threads still alive. If not, I'll link you the archive. G'Night

rolled 8 = 8

>>18064730
(Fuck... I hate it when this stuff happens)

>>18064783
I like that idea
>>18064741
And I was just suggesting something thatd work with their ideas

>>18064784
(Bah, I'm actually going to stay up for a while longer.)

>>18064811
You just want to see what happens on the island..

>>18064805
You hear a slight rustling of bushes/leaves/branches, you can't tell.
The Shadow Scale in the party eye's dart around, almost nervously.

What's next? You're about 3 posts from the the end of the forest.

>>18064841
(So?)

rolled 18 = 18

>>18064841
"Form up! Let nothing take us by surprise!"
Serris wishes, wisely he hopes, to make his way out of the forest with all angles covered. We'll keep heading out of the woods, if a bit faster so we can meet whatever this is out in the open.

>>18064805
This one has a bad feeling

>>18064877
(Just so you know Shadowscales can see in the dark)

>>18064878
(heheh...it seems a lot of people can't help adressing themselves in the 3rd person now.)

>>18064890
(I do, and seeing it's eyes move about nervously is enough to make me want to get out of the woods and into the open)
"What do you see, Shadowscale?"

>>18064905
(it seems better for the character)

>>18064877
Amali (The Shadow Scale I just named.) yells, upon your order of a formation "NO! Just run! I'll distract them the best I can." She sprints into the forest and is out of sight within seconds.

>>18064911
Little late for questions, how do you proceed?

The island is dangerous, a forested trap where the enemy lies in wait.

Burn it to the ground, destroy their encamped, and when all is settled we can build this tower of Feathered Serpent atop the scarred island, a monument to our power that should make our enemies tremble in fear.

>>18064905
(lol I've been avoiding it because I want to keep with my character's affinity for Coatliuitl and her crrrrrrrazy woman emotions and first person works best for that. Actually it'd be pretty neat if the males refer to themselves in the third person because it takes the blame somewhat away from them when addressing others, because the females are big and strong and sort of bipolar)

>>18064926
Tooth Chewer, you return from your slumber! Your son is among those sent to the island, shall we send him your word?

>>18064932
(In the last threads, Tooth Chewer used first person for trivial comments, and third person when recommending something, or saying something he thought was very important. Third person being as 'This One' or 'This Council-member')

>>18064922
"Amali, WAIT! Damn it all! Everyone, full speed out of the forest! Serris will take the rear! Tarkus, with me!"

Have everyone book it, with me being rear guard with Tarkus (a lizardman I have also named).

Captcha: the seven
What the actual eff...?!

>>18064948
Indeed I do awaken.
Though in truth I have been ailing. Don't spread word of that. Sickness is unsettling to the young, though it is to be expected in a man of 5 and forty.

I am feeling well today though, do we still have those warriors captive? I used to hear of them, but I don't know what became of them.

And my son?
No don't trouble him. He has better things to focus on then the hobbling status of an old lore keeper.

rolled 7 = 7

>>18064959
>The Seven

Well if that's not the most ironic thing I've heard all day.

Just a second

>>18064926
Father it has been long since this one has seen you!(I took the name Ringed Tooth and was made your son) And your words have much wisdom in them!

>>18064999
OH DEAR LORD!N THAT ROLL!
(i decided to go back to my lizardkin name)

>>18064990
I believe they still yet live, though starved and under guard. As the Venerated Patron of the God Father Eztliamiqui, perhaps it should be you to decide their fate.

(Since we're deciding age, what's the upper limit of lizardfolk age? Are they like alligators where they mature quickly but can live like 80 years without any medical help? I was thinking Coatlicue would be a pretty old lizard.)

>>18065001
(Oh, y'know, I saw the name Ringed Tooth poppin' up in the archived thread 2, and somehow missed that tidbit

Is Crown supposed to be a tooth pun?)

If my words have wisdom, it is only because this one speaks of the Old and True ways.
You look like you're doing strongly boy. Follow the Ways and I'm sure you'll flourish.

>>18064990
The Clanbrother Directly in front of Tarkus is charged/attacked by/with something very large.
There is his scream and he is gone.

You make is out of the forest. You can still hear you Clanbrother's screaming.
It stops.

A long howl is issued from somewhere deep in the forest.

Then Silence.


They don't seem to have followed you out of the forest. Including yourself you have 12 Soldiers. What's next for the scouting party?

>>18065062
Thank you father(And it wasnt supposed to be its just a default name that i use but it worked out kinda? also im on a island so we have to stop this)

>>18065072
(Kill it with fire!)

>>18065072
this one proposes that we call for more men and that we troch the entire island to smoke out this thing

>>18065062
It's great to see you back by the way.

Save mine and send me an Email. I've been sending updates periodically.

>>18065086
(I'm considering it...)

>>18065086
>>18065093

it's funny because he has fire spells.

*bud dum tss*

>>18065042
(This was covered at one point

Voice of reason-ish
"The average life of Lizard Folk is 40 years.
Eggs can be lain and hatched within 2months.
Maturity is reached is reached within 3 years."

Question though, is the average span of 40 based purely on statistics (So, war deaths drag that down.) or is 40 the average for lizardfolks that live a healthy, un-massacred life?)

Starving the prisoners? That does not bode well.
He Who Thirsts enjoy sacrifices that still smell of battle. Feed the prisoners their final meal, and we shall sacrifice them on the 'morrow. Combat trials should precede it. Prisoners who wish it shall be permitted to fight for their freedom.

That concession is not the norm, but we have let them rot for too long.

If we still need information from them, we can keep one or two locked away, but those left behind are lost as sacrifices to Him.

>>18065042

(Nevermind, I checked the old thread. I'd say Coatlicue is around 20 years old.)

>>18065072
"Damn it. We are down a shadowscale and a clanbrother. This night is going to be terrible, indeed."

New watch order:

First Watch: Serris and four other warriors
Second Watch: Ringed Tooth, Tarkus and three other warriors

More torches surrounding the perimeter at night. We need to double up our safety if we are to survive. In the morning I will have the men construct traps. Netting, pits, whatever we can come up with to trap something. I'm not going to risk going back into that forest until I know exactly what I am dealing with.

captcha: darksee Hannah...

>>18065116
(From what I understand, they're refusing to eat.)

>>18065126
We should go to the tribe and ask the other council members if we can get more men from our tribe or even from the stout ones

>>18065091
(Super good to be back.
I was like 'Hmmm, should think about bed soon, maybe.'
Gave TG a quick browse.

And went 'hoh-snaps, mah lizahrds!)

>>18065130

(Well now they're just being silly. This is what happens when you follow the New Ways, you forget how to eat.)

>>18065137
Serris agrees with you. When morning comes, we shall send one of our brothers to our home, requesting aid... including the aid of Fire Horn. If we can not deal with them in a reasonable way, then I will not hesitate to burn them into the ground.

captcha: proceeding othead

(What is with these captchas?!)

>>18065160
(those capthca are scaring me)

>>18065126
Camping's always fun, huh?

>>18065160
Before we get to this,

What have the Council members decided in Serris's absence?


A. Improve
1. Tech
2. Weaponry
3. Architecture (includes housing and defense)

B. Explore
1. North
2. East
3. South
4. West
5. Explore river
a. east
b.west

C. Special
1. Explore Northern Obstruction
2. Build Jail
3. Explore forest of Moans

>>18065138
We decided on every Wednesday around 10-11 EST

>>18065194

A3

We need to fortify Atl. We've gone defenseless for too long.

C2(b: Build Slave Pens)

If these vermin do not eat, then we shall work them until they drop. They are beneath us, so why should they sit loafing about waiting for death? At least make them useful.

>>18065194
My vote was for A1, C3, and then I couldn't decide on what to do about exploring.

Our sea going vessels are not sufficient. There is no way we could transmit large amounts of food and supplies across the lake. It limits our ability to grow and destroy as well. This should be our priority going forward. We also should not forget our obligation to the lizardfolk. There have been rumors that the forest to the west is haunted. While I do not believe the superstitions, I do believe that something lies there in. It deserves at the least a scouting party.

>>18065214
We should send them into the island!

>>18065194
This one still thinks that armor should be made from the bones of our prey. Perhaps from the sacrifices.

>>18065221
We could bind the bones together with reeds. Even make reed shields studded with bones.

>>18065151
>>18065221
>>18065220
What are your votes?

>>18065194
I also vote for improving tech. Bone-tech in particular. It's handy resource for us, with alot of good uses.

What happens if we put bones in the fire?

Also, as for these foolish prisoner... I'd like to speak with them. This one has been known to be... persuasive.

Captcha: Wastall leprosy
I hope that doesn't come up.

i vote for tech and defenses

>>18065291
Depends, who's bones?

>>18065358

The enemy's. And our largest game's.

>>18065369
Yep.

Although, we never really did go over our burial practices...
Perhaps those who have fallen should make a final gift? Their bones and scales become our strength, and their blood is returned to He Who Thirsts?

(Because how cool is it when the spear of your ancestors is actually a spear *of* your ancestors?)

(Well, I need to call it a night. I have to be at work in less than 8 hours. It has been fun while it lasted. I'll try and be on when I get home tomorrow. G'night, gents!)

>>18065385
>It's dangerous to go alone, here, take Grandpa.

>>18065385
(I like this idea. Opens us up for necromancy later.)

>>18065395
I've got your Email. I'll link you the archive.
It's been fun. Later.

>>18065395
(Night, man. It was fun.)

>>18065408
Could we use one of the divine feathers to teach us necromancy?

>>18065385
(I balk at the idea of that, yet at the same time it seems very right...)

>>18065407
(*tsk* it's not necromancy.

It's an ancient practice used since the begging of The Old Ways.
It's gotten a bit obscure over the last century. You... probably haven't heard of it.)

>>18065455
(Honestly, I'd rather keep away from necromancy...takes the dead away from Him and all that. And your image reminds me, have we found any turtles or tortoises? If so, we should use their shelves for shields.)

>>18065455

(The cool thing about Necromancy is that we'll be able to keep our elders alive and keep the Old Ways around... FOREVER!)

>>18065471
shelves...you know what I mean...

>>18065407
Hmm...necromancy with the bones of our ancestors in our shields (Incidentally, my name means shield)...might lead to some very interesting weapons and armor effects. Better please your ancestors or the spirit of your armor will forsake you!

>>18065291
The burning of the game has little effect to the fire, but upon the burning of the bones of one of your fallen enemies, a voice reaches out to everyone present.

"YOUR OFFERINGS PLEASE ME. CONTINUE AND YOU SHALL BE REWARDED."
Your god of war, Eztliamiqui (He Who Thirsts) Has spoken to you.

The Tower of The Feathered Serpent has been completed. And troubling sites can be seen from the towers keep.

>>18065471
It's really all a matter of perspective.

As long as we don't go hurr-durrnecromancers dark, it should be awesome.

Our honored dead are forever remembered, their bones have become our sanctified tools.

The bodies of fallen foes are used to help us in all sorts of ways.

We should avoid trafficking with souls though. Those belong in the afterworld.

That is actually a great place to stop for tonight.

We'll pick it back up next week

>>18065505
Bu..but the island!

>>18065501
(I was thinking more along the lines of the elves in eberron that keep their ancestors in massive tombs that they can go inside and talk to them about shit. Think about it. When we die, we can continue to lead our progeny in the old ways! The faults of Zetharn will not happen again!)

>>18065519
Oh you'll see what horrors await you soon enough

MWUHAHAHAHA

But no seriously, we'll pick back up with you and Serris next week.

>>18065505
Alright then. Night then.
It look like they built a wall of some sort with two great keeps/fortress or something on either end.


All I'm saying is, I don't think we should get into zombies or summoning shit. Using the venerated bones of our fallen? sure

>>18065485
Tooth Chewer gnaws on a decaying tooth, then looks toward the prisoner holding.

"Give them the night to talk. Those who do may have a trial by blood to see if they may go free. Those who don't should be dismembered and fed to the flames."

(Captcha: Acqures the: Acquires the... bones? )

>>18065531
;-;

>>18065505

Oh, 'kay. G'night Reason.

Continue to RP any conversations you wish, I'm about to archive this thread. And I'll look at everything in the morn.

I have everyone's Email?

>>18065535
Oh shit...I just realized there are even more islands...

>>18062118
Night, man. I'll see you all here next time.

>>18065551

Oh fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck. We must make them ours!

>>18065526
That'd actually be a good idea, allowing the honored dead to give counsel.

Maybe not giant tombs, maybe they just reside in their bones. Their advice is always useful, though not always relevant.

Future councils could sit at a table of sage advice. Generals could wear the skull-fashioned helm of the heroes of yesterday. And every green warrior would feel safer knowing he goes into battle with an expert in his hands.

>>18065583
This would be awesome. Let's work towards that with the bones of our fallen.

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/18062118/

Here you are.

Talk to everyone later. See you all next week.

morning bump

>>18067234
Why are you bumping?

>>18067364
Reason said something about wanting it bumped in the morning, can't remember why

>>18067424
Well then

>>18067431
Afternoon Bump.

>>18068444
And why not? Evening bump.