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I think you mean "awesome ideas for a campaign"

>Tanks with legs...and SWORDS
wait, what?

>>23576641
Mechas. The thing he's talking about is called mechas.

>>23576647
I know Metal Gears are mechas, but I never saw one with swords...don't tell me, Raising has Metal Gears with swords?

>>23576615
>cyborg ninjas
how is that stupid?

>>23576615
>Stupid
Shit son, that ain't stupid. Metal Gear Rising: The Campaign sounds fucking amazing.

>>23576662
Yes. It has one with a tripple sword too.

It's majestc. It's piloted by a senator.

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>>23576615
you have no idea what you have done op

Just as a premonition, i bet that any idea someone throws up as stupid, /tg/ will look at it in a diffrent light and make it awwwwwwwwesome!

>>23576662
If you wanna get technical, the Irvings in MGS4 also had some stabby stuff going on on the legs.

>>23576705
Ideas aren't stupid, is just you who can't figure how to make them awesome.

>>23576670
OP here.
When there're things like rail guns, AT ammo and other stuff, yeah, cyborg ninjas with swords are stupid.

I loved the boss fights in this game

Honestly, I only dislike the nanomachines as an explanation, because it's a weak all way to codify magic.

I'd rather have technobabble that isn't so obviously wrong. (Nanomachines would be hard as fuck to design, and I'm not sure why they would be more powerful than blood.)

Also, Cyborg Ninjas are awesome in any setting.

>>23576722
Well nonobots and tank with legs with swords is an awesome idea.

Stupid ideas...

Iunno, you play as an accountant in an office job working as part of a unit you must all work together to sort through a mountain of fluttery dull papers.

You must overcome caffeine withdrawal and papercuts to achieve your goal

It's played in real time.


make that awesome.

>>23576743
You are aware of the whole 30 foot thing? How a man with a drawn melee weapon will most likely close that distance before a man can draw and fire a gun? That distance becomes 'much' larger when your opponent can move at about the speed of a goddamn train.

>>23576743
Not when they are so fast they can dodge the bullets or deflect them, and can actually really bisect a tank with a single vertical cut.

You know, that really annoyed me. Ghosts? Legit. Psychics? Of course faggot. Man with hive of living bees in his body? Yep. Man who can photosynthesize? what are you retarded? Summoning lightning at will? Par for course. Vampires? Fuck no you stupid homo, that's nanomachines.

After all of the above, why draw the line at vampires?

>>23576793
I'm taking a break from my game to say it's fucking awesome. Just going onto a probate module now; avoiding papercuts has never been so much fun!

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Man, I fucking loved that game.

>>23576626
midichlorians

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>>23576838
Agreed.
It is both challenging and extremely rewarding.
I freaking love it.

Link related.
http://youtubedoubler.com/?video1=3iubq_esftc&start1=0&video2=In0v46Z6xbQ&start2=55&authorName=FAV

shadowrun+metal gear=???

>>23576615

I'm surprised by how awesome MGS: Rising was. I never, ever thought that Raiden could carry a game, let alone be so damn cool.

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>>23576873
why does this sound like it would be so much fun?

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Is it bad to admit that I'm making Jetstream Sam as a Street Sammy for my next Shadowrun game?

How should I spec?

>>23576901
no it is not and he is going to get his own DLC story

>>23576901

Physical Adept, with only his right arm modded.

Remember, Sam was the least augmented of all the Winds of Destruction. In fact, he was nearly mortal; Everything he did was pure skill.

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Greatest song, or the greatest song?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijlGlvwGEK0

Though Monsoon was the most entertaining boss fight.
All of that parrying and speed that was going on during that fight, along with the awesome music, made it extremely fun and challenging for me.

>>23576901
Funny thing... he was actually realy lightly augmented. I'd assume he's an adept with some cyber.

>>23576918
>>23576922
Fair enough, but the cyber would drain his essence a bit much, and thus make his Adept powers a bit weak, wouldn't it?

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OP, you just combined two of my favorite things.

A metal gear campaign would be great as long as it's set before rising. That way it's not just cyborgs fighting and are few and far between.

You can pretty much bullshit your way into having whatever character you want on the basis of "yeah, but the pain keeps bees in this body".

Imagine a weird-ass team like The Bosses', Foxhound, or Dead Cell, invading bases and shit.

So cool.

>>23576945

It's really only one modification. He might be able to squeeze it in...But you're right, it'd weaken him.

Alternatively, you could go the COMPLETELY AUGMENTED STREET SAM version. That might be more appropriate for Shadowrun: Remember, the players will most likely chuck grenades, shoot him, and unload magic in his direction instead of facing him in a sword fight.

If he's not built with that in mind, he'll be the idiot with the sword the party killed with a grenade launcher. I love Shadowrunner versus Shadowrunner fights, but I've found that the enemy team rarely gets to demonstrate their gimmicks.

>>23576945

Sort of. However, cyber CAN be more efficient.

Really, what you want is cyber for stat boosting.

Losing .75 worth of magic points for +1 to a stat...or losing .5 essence for +2 to a stat? it's actually more efficient in some ways for adepts as long as you carefully work out your numbers to get nice round number for essence loss (No 1.1 lost) and you mostly focus on stat boosting.

>>23576971
>Imagine a weird-ass team like The Bosses
The Cobras. They could get into a scuffle with Cobra from GI Joe.

>>23576945
Could use mostly bio instead. No essence draning then.

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>>23577008
My mistake. Cobra Unit. I couldn't remember their name off the top of my head.

I Also might as well fix something: *and THEY are few and far between.

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>>23576615

>>23576833

I didn't get annoyed by it, but it was kind of strange that MGS was completely fine with supernatural shit going on errywhere, but decided that the guy who absolutely needed a lolmagic explanation got pseudoscience'd all over

>>23577094
also vamp was at first going to be a woman

>>23576918
>>23576922
>>23576977
>>23576991
What's the best way to go about stat boosting with cyber? I always thought it just defaulted things to 3...

(sorry, noob to SR)

>>23577094

And you know, I (and everyone I've talked to about it) had no problem with the supernatural stuff. It was part of the setting, made it interesting. There as absolutely NO reason to have to explain it away.

Make me feel it /tg/. Make me feel alive again.

>>23576833
Vamp was on a whole new level of weird though. the Cobras were ehhh tier too mostly.

>>23577102
And split in two; the fight where he runs on the water was supposed to be vs Chinman, an SFX and swimmer specialist (yes, I know, that sounds terribly sily even by MGS standards).

>>23577112

Look into the bioware Suprathyroid. It's +1 to all physical stats for .7 essence. For an adept, that would be 3 whole points of magic.

There is also muscle toner.

Also: Get 'Way of the Adept'. Look at 'Way of the Burnout'. 10BP quality. Reduces essence costs for cyber or bioware by 10% AND reduces the cost of several adept powers.

>>23576800
A cyborg with a gun would be more effective.

>>23577120
But it made it so I had to have sex with Vamp while popping drugs in order to weaken him.

Which I am perfectly okay with.

>>23576838
Lords above and below that was fun. I don't care how stupid Rays are, shit's cool.

>>23577120
As others have said in the past, the MGS setting is one where magic and supernatural skill is slowly being replaced by tech.

Think about the progression of enemy boss groups.

Cobra Unit -> FOXHOUND -> Dead Cell -> B&B -> Desperado Elite

With each iteration, it becomes more tech inclined.

>>23577129

Psycho mantis flew around, reading minds and shooting telekinetic energy around. Vulcan Raven could turn his tattoos into actual fucking ravens. Vamp was pretty damn par for course, even at that point in the series.

>>23576759
Not to mention the fact that despite kicking all kinds of cyborg ass up and down MGR, in the end, it's still NAAAANOMACHIIINES

>>23577178
Man, the dialogue made it sound like they were going for a farce at that point.

>>23577178

Actually, nanomachine explanation works pretty well for the senator, at least considering the epidermal armor he had going on. That stuff might actually be somewhat plausible.
Of course, his sudden power to punch earth so hard it explodes in lava and fire was stretching it quite considerably.

I can forgive all of that, because his boss fight was just so awesome.
The music really made this game shine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Df_ljvGKfs

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So what system would be best for running a Metal Gear campaign, do you think? Pre-Rising, most likely.

>>23576921
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijlGlvwGEK0
Mah nigga, and Monsoon was a bitch to fight, but godDAMN if cutting that fucker up at the end didn't feel rewarding.

>>23577300
Shadowrun, or Cyberpunk 2020?

>>23576833
Because one of the themes of the later MGS is that the old ways of warfare are dying under regulated tricks. It's not that a guy like Vamp COULDN'T have powers (he didn't always have nanomachines, after all - Naomi more or less tells you the nanomachines were a recent addition that controlled and accelerated his regeneration), but that for Zero and his Patriots, the existence of 'freaks' like FOXHOUND, Dead Cell, and the Cobras was no longer convenient for his age of control. The magic of the old world was being supplanted by the technology of the new.

>>23576821

I mean, fuck, look at goddamn Jetstream Sam.

>>23577142

>What is bullet deflection

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>>23577149
Man, I like Rays

Why's everybody so mean to them

We should make that Metal Gear RPG where you play as a randomly generated terrorist cell.

>>23576883
Raiden was lovable in MGS2 and, despise the "lest fuck his life and turn him into an emo", MGS4

Yeah, he was naive, whiny and a self righteous faggot, but after all he was made that way to look like a player.

>>23577300
Dark Heresy can work well, just be a little more liberal with the implants.

I had an assassin that became an agent of the Lords Dragon that basically was Raiden in a lot of ways. Even had a moment where I threw off my Mechanicus robes like he throws off his coat in the beginning of the game.

>>23577482
If a bullet can be deflected, why can't a knife or sword?

>>23577504
d100 Codename charts?

"I'm... Blade Lynx"
"Ghost Spider!"
"Blast Tortoise?"
"LAUNCHER STINGRAY"

>>23576793

The paperwork you are doing is actually how you gain your powers as "The Accountant". His super powers, per day, are exactly equivalent in power to the volume of paperwork he's able to complete that day. During the "day" parts of the campaign you juggle the risk vs reward of taking more work to increase your powers but if you're unable to complete all the work you take you risk being fired, thus losing your powers altogether.

>>23577527
>It doubles as a Megaman X Boss Generator

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>>23577202
The weird ass shots with the senator didn't help
pic very related

>>23577527
Someone has to do it

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>Metal Gear Solid 4
>what happens when the campaign has gone on way too long

>>23577516

Because it's not being thrown or shot. The problem is limitations on reactions. The 'borg wielding the sword is moving as fast as you are. The gun? Shoots only so fast.

>>23577557
That doesn't make any sense. Fuck you.

>>23576901
Sam was the only character I could stand in this fucking game, he was just a purebred badass

but as awesome as the gameplay was, fuck the story and setting was retarded

>>23577527
Table of power sources

1-10: Occult
11-25: Sheer Talent
26-50: Cybernetics
51-100: NANOMACHINES SON

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>>23577572

It makes perfect sense. Go eat a dick.

>>23577300
M&M?

>>23576833
This right here. Nanomachines aren't just a lazy and underwhelming explanation, they're an unneeded explanation on top of all that.

>>23577621
That, or Spycraft.

>>23577621
It does, as a series, include both Mutants and Masterminds.

I could see M&M working, it works for a lot of things.

>>23577557
>Rail guns
>Slow
>even deflectable

>>23577633
Where are the mutants? I suppose the poisonous zanzibar hamsters could be mutant.

>>23576615
Why settle for nanomachines? You're not thinking stupid enough. Why not attomachines? That's like twice as good as nanomachines.

>>23577659
Don't forget about the BULLET BEES!

>>23577659
Mutants as people who born with powers or got powers through science, like X-men, Spider-man and stuff

>>23576833

I imagine it was so that they didn't have to rewrite any "established" vampire lore or deal with any potential backlash that may come from doing so. Vamp, despite his name, and like, that one time he licks blood off of a knife, isn't really a vampire, when you get right down to it. In fact, most of his "powers" seem pretty standard for nanomachines in universe.

>inb4 it's been forever since I've played 2 or 4 and so I have forgotten several obviously vampiric things he does and I am, in fact, a faggot

>>23577671
Don't be silly. Attomachines are too small to have any meaningful impact on reality. Micromachine is the next step.

>>23577700
>Like stand on water and wall-running

>>23577700
He sooks blood out of a SEAL's neck.

>>23577700
No you're basically right.

He does do that 'pin your shadow with a knife' thing which is pretty fuckin' mystical.

But even Snake denies that he's a vampire.

"Oh so his name is Vamp 'cause he drinks blood."
"No he's just a horny bisexual. You know that black chick? He used to bang her dad."
"THAT'S FUCKED UP, YO."
"Would it be less fucked up if he was bangin' her mom?"

>>23577713

Like I said, it's been a while since I've played two, I don't recall that part.

>>23577712

Those are attributed to vampires? First I've heard of it.

>>23577572
no. fuck you. Your statement doesn't make sense. Deflect a sword with what?

>>23577722
I'm an idiot, and never understood how "Vamp" construed bisexuality.

Can someone explain it for me?

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>>23577527
I want this so bad.

>>23577700

There's the whole 'pin you by your shadow' deal.

>>23577748
I was replying about the "standard for nanomachines", but yes, wall-crawling is typical vampire power.

>>23577487
BECAUSE THEY DON'T MAKE SEEEEEENSE.


Squirt guns that kill people are still the cooloest idea ever.

>>23577776
>>23577779

Alright, I concede, I am a gigantic faggot, etc

Like I said, I haven't played either two or four in a while, not since MGO was shut down, and I haven't played the story in even longer. I was actually planning on getting Rising after class today, especially after earlier in this thread, do you guys recommend it?

>>23577756
It's a vampire thing. Vampires have always been a sex symbol and so a certain type of sexually active, seductive femme fatale ended up being referred to as a 'vamp'. It eventually expanded from there to any person who met the personality type.

>>23577710
But micro is a step up on the size scale from nano, that'd mean slightly larger tiny machines. At that point why not just start building Teramachines?

>>23577794
Dude it's mecha godzilla. I WANT A MECHA GODZILLA.

And yes. Water cutter laser cannon is the best thing ever.

>>23577798
>do you guys recommend it?
YESSSSSSSSSSSSS
It doesn't make sense, breaks Raiden's character, but is super awesome and fun as fuck.

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>>23577722

>>23577798
It's among one of the stupidest, most ridiculous things I have ever played.

I'm in love. Play it.

>>23577819
>>23577840

Alright, thanks!

>>23577819
Raiden has character?

>>23577846
Not a strong one, but has traits that difference him from other people.

>>23577830
I fucking loved their portrayal of Chinaman.

>>23577798

Like Pat said, the first time seeing Sundowner.

>That looks like the stupidest, most impractical weapon ever I hope I get it.

>>23576793

Add kung fu and paper elementals. Done.

>>23577874

You do. It can scissor enemies in half.

>>23577527

Those sound like they could also double up as concepts for new Pokemon.

>The nanomachines were bees the whole time

>>23577923
>Sasaki is his own father

>>23577819
No, it makes sense.

Raiden had always been running away from his past and trying to rationalize it. Over the course of Rising, he comes to terms with his bloodthirsty nature and starts channeling it towards more positive ends.

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>>23577923

>the ghosts were bees

>>23576889
Is it just me, or does that enemy look like a Space Marine Terminator?

>>23577959
>Raiden being funny
>Raiden making jokes
>Comical scenes in were Raiden is funny
>Makes sense

Also
>Raiden not being calmer and pasive
>Jack the Ripper being Dante isntead of a calmer serial killer as he was supposed to be

>>23578019

It kinda is, if SM Terminators fought like gorillas.

How about a metal gear solid style Only War campaign?

>>23578019
Probably is just you, but I remember a thread 2 days ago about Iron-man and guys saying every iron-man armor looked like Space Marine armor and Terminator armor, so maybe I'm wrong.

>>23578002
>out of character

>>23577504
>Terrorist
>Not noble soldiers fighting a corrupt system...with terrorist grunts to make Snake kill

>>23577798
Get it right the fuck now you gigantic faggot, failure to do so will bring your Faggot Level to Immense

>>23578024
He had like 5 or 6 years of family life, man.

He mellowed out a bit before the events drove him murderous.

Is the Sorrow in it?

>>23578080
Beauty and Beast and the Winds of Destruction weren't that noble.

>>23578091

Ooops

>>23577527
I want mine called "Flamenco Piñata"

>>23578002
I'd vote for him

>>23578108
>>23578091

Unfortunately, I can't just leave my class, I need the hours.

I'll get it right after though, Anon-kun :3

>>23578096
Like Himura Kenshin?

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>>23578048
I think the Mastiff enemy looks like a Terminator to me because they're both incredibly bulky, and they both have their heads nestled in armor.

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>>23578024
This.

I can't stand Rising from a story standpoint. I really enjoyed PLAYING it- at least the first time through, but the story is a mess.

It's like a parody of the MGS series. I get they were always silly, but they often took themselves very seriously despite the ridiculousness of the situation, which was fine. The developers knew it was weird- and we knew it was weird. They don't need to spell out how totally crazy they are. On top of that, it felt really out of place to be coming from a series with antagonists like Solidus with legitimate depth, and bosses like Sniper Wolf or The End who you hear about way before their fight; Then in Rising to have the antagonist be "OMG DID U NO POLITICIANS R BAD?" and the bosses show up without explanation or development beforehand unless you call everyone on your codec constantly.

I could go one, but I'll stop complaining here, as I'm sort of getting off topic.

>>23578180
I think it was meant to be such a radical departure in mood. I'm waiting on Ground Zeroes for my next proper fix of goofy but done completely seriously.

>>23578180

The only thing that really bugs me is that the 1st chapter (the 1st 1 with the new body I mean) seems to be only barely connected to the rest of the plot. It kinda feels like that one was created when it was still being made by Kojipro, and the rest was from Platinum.

>>23577527

Doing that right now. Got all animals and around 40 other words so far.

>>23577572
The impetus for cyborgs in MGR is literally "I need to kill fast and BULLETS TOO SLOW!."

It doesn't have to make sense, making sense is not the metric for quality in this series.

>>23577655
Raiden's reflexes are 400 times faster than a baseline human's and he can swing his sword faster than hypersonic bullets.

DWI.

>>23578285
>"I need to kill fast and BULLETS TOO SLOW!."

Yes.

>>23578307
>Can do that
>Still gets hit by Gekkos and Troopers with staffs.

>>23578307
Indeed.

Basically.. MGR has had a huge overturn of technology that has flipped warfare on it's head.

When you have Cyborgs who can flip 11 foot robots and deflect bullets while cutting missiles from the air, what the hell do you use to kill them?

I mean fuck, how the hell do you use conventional weapons against Monsoon?

>>23578331
the problem is your reflexes are apparently half of a baseline humans
and you can't press a button faster than a staff moving across a screen

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>>23578208
>I think it was meant to be such a radical departure in mood
I would have been Ay-oh-kay with that if it took place, say, in between MGS2 and MGS4. But this is a sequel to MGS4, and somehow that feels disrespectful to the ending, to just continue like that. Yes, I know ending SOP wouldn't stop war altogether, but just like with the silly-stuff, you don't need to spell it out for us. It would be like if you watched a Disney movie and at then end it said "6 years and 4 months later, Prince Charming was brutally murdered in an alley". Also, the crazy shit (using a robot arm a hundred times his size to slice that Spider-Gear thing, Throwing a RAY, exc) that Raiden does in MGR makes Snake look shitty in comparison. Yes, I know he fought some RAY in MGS2, but he didn't destroy any. And yes, I know he stopped Arsenal Gear in MGS4, and that was stupid- but just because something stupid happens doesn't mean you should base a game on it.

Anyway, just needed to release that, having recently played Rising.

On topic, I should really try and start a Metal Gear campaign.

>>23578339
>Ninja who can move 400 faster than humans
>Gets his ass handled by granades

>>23578331
They too are superfast killing machines. They're just not bishie enough to beat him.

Jetstream Sam came at him from the other direction of being grizzled and badass and would have won, if only Raiden hadn't trained under Solid Snake and knew exactly how to defeat it.

I dont like my sci-fi too hard, but this kind of sci-fi is too soft.

>>23578248
Only FOXHOUND uses that naming scheme.

>>23578345
>You're soo fast
>Not using slow motion camera or bullet time all the time

>>23578359
it's not a sequel to MGS4, that's still coming out later
it's a side story, like portable ops

>>23578360
Giant melon sized super cyborg grenades that weigh hundreds of pounds and require cyborgs to even throw them.

Although Raiden still throws them like a little bitch considering that he's able to judo-flip a 10,000 ton mecha.

>>23578390
No, it's still a sequel. They reference the events of MGS4 as having happened.

Like, within the bureaucracy of the game devs, yes, it's a side-project, but it still happened.

>>23577756
Vamp is specifically another term for a femme fatale, the seductress who uses sexuality to conquer and destroy men.

If you call a dude "femme fatale" that isn't indicating he's ALPHA CUNT DESTROYER BROMEGA.

>>23578412
So did portable ops.
Shit, even the card-game happened.
It doesn't mean they're sequels, they just happened in the same universe.
Metal Gear Solid 5 is Ground Zeroes, and is still coming out.
It's not a sequel.

Also
>expecting Snake level interest from a Raiden game
really?

>>23578135
Pretty much. Except Raiden was less goofy.

>>23578394
Those grenades are actually made out of osmium.

>>23578426
>that isn't indicating he's ALPHA CUNT DESTROYER BROMEGA.

It totally is. He's achieved a level of Alpha that cannot be satisfied with the meager conquests the opposite sex provides.

He must exert dominance over other men to feel fulfilled. Only they provide enough friction to his raging manrection.

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>>23578390
Just because Kojima Productions didn't development doesn't mean it isn't Canon. In fact, they've mentioned many times it's canon.

It takes place in a direct timeline after the previous game, and stars the only remaining protagonist the series has.

And even if they did make an "actual sequel", MGR would still be canon, and then there's a HUGE power creep- what good is Snake/whoever going to do when everyone is crazy-ass-robo-ninjas who can throw metal gears? He spend three respective games just trying to destroy ONE in each of them.

>>23578452
They said that Ground Zeroes is going to be a prequel to MGS5.

>>23578462
That's fucking stupid. Iridium is objectively better for grenades.

>>23578475
What if we turn Snake into a crazy-ass-robo-ninja?

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>>23578426
pic related

>>23578452
>Metal Gear Solid 5 is Ground Zeroes, and is still coming out.

Ground Zeroes is the lead up game to MGS5. Why not just make it MGS5 and 6? Fuck you, that's why.

>>23578452
>It doesn't mean they're sequels, they just happened in the same universe.
The games you mentioned DIDN'T though. AC!D is a completely different universe, and portable ops has yet to be confirmed canon.

>>23578463
Vamp is homoerotic like it's nobody's business.

>>23578475
Snake is a memetic badass, which is on a level far above any actual badass. Snake would cut through the antagonists of MGR like they were nothing. You think he gives a fuck?

Snake didn't die at the end of MGS4, he entered the legend.

>>23578521
Gay is just the level of manliness above alpha.

Why do you think snake is so damn gay?

Here's my Metal Gear campaign premise. Right here. You ready for this.

There's not a lot of mental space for new Metal Gears that aren't nuclear weapons, though tactical-scale stuff could be fun.

So fuck it, time to go full Kojima Crazy.

Cyborg ninjas and a rogue AI designed to fight terrorism and capable of love will help secret agents fight power-armored vampires pursuing nuclear proliferation in order to blot out the sun. But the world's first bipedal unmanned interstellar explorer has come back high on the knowledge of the universe and humanity must be destroyed.

Their commander is an AI

It's seen the patterns of nuclear proliferation and identified nuclear hotspots where armed intervention is necessary using anti-Metal Gear Metal Gears.

In a world where war is waged for profit, can four mercenaries with nowhere else to turn find a way to save humanity?
Do they want to?
And how will advancing machine intelligences share this new world? [Tachikomas, that's how]

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>>23578484
...

Obviously. It's a prequel to EVERYTHING that isn't 3 and Peace Walker.

>>23578522

Atually, it's just not been confirmed or denied if he's dead or not yet. MGR used both present and past tense to refer to him, just for that.

>>23578539
I mean that it is supposed to be story wise directly tied to it. Fuck if I know how that's going to work out, but whatever.

>>23578541
There's an upcoming DLC pack where Raiden obtains a magical wooden sword containing Snake's soul.

>>23578560
>There's a sword that also contains wolfy's soul
>An AI
>With soul
>Canon

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>>23578558
You have a link? I believe you, I just want to read it myself.

I'm honestly curious what Kojima is gonna pull out of his ass- really the only excuses I can think of is "Snake fast-aging undoes itself" or "Snake is now a cyborg" and I don't think Kojima would EVER do the latter.

>>23578583
>Tali Zorah... does this unit... have... a soul?

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>>23578560
>There's an upcoming DLC pack where Raiden obtains a magical wooden sword containing Snake's soul.
You have got to be fucking kidding me.

ARE you kidding me? If not, is this canon?

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How about ball-of-arms woman?

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>>23578048
The new heavy duty suit looks Termie-ish, but thats about it

>>23578609
She needed arms on her legs. And all those arms should've carried big knives.

>>23578599
I don't know its canon-ocity, but it's legit.

http://uk.ign.com/wikis/metal-gear-rising-revengeance/Solid_Snake_Soul_Blade_DLC

>>23578630
>Termie-ish
>Not Hulkbuster-ish

>>23578609
I should be way more into a woman who is essentially a ball of all my fetishes than I turned out to be.

>>23578599
I am not kidding, and it is canon. You can already get a suit of armor containing the soul of Grey Fox.

>>23578640
Who needs legs when you can have arms?

>>23578667
I don't think it has Grey Fox's soul, it's just a Grey Fox skin. Can't have a cyborg ninja without Grey Fox.

>>23578359
>But this is a sequel to MGS4
But that's where you're wrong.
It's not a sequel to any metal gear solid at all!

It's called metal gear rising. It's a spin-off. Same as metal gear ac!d and other spin-offss, they're allowed to have a completely different tone.

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>>23578667
Bullshit- it can't be canon. They aren't going to end the story of the main character by way of DLC where he's trapped in a cardboard sword.

>>23578687
The description explicitly says it contains Grey Fox's soul.

>>23578701
>trapped in a cardboard sword

The sword is trapped in snake.

>>23578599
No idea on the canonity, but there that weapon is confirmed. Doesn't mean Snake's dead though
>>23578609
I got turned on by that. Is this bad?

>>23578587
Ground Zeroes is a Big Boss game set a few months after Peace Walker. MGS5 probably is five years later or so in one of those wars in Africa that we hear about in later MGS games but never see. Where Big Boss gets the real estate for Outer Heaven and like a third of the named characters were involved in wars.

Also, now I can't find the quote that I remember reading so maybe I totally imagined it. I'll keep looking though. But have this instead

>In an interview with VG247, Hideo Kojima expressed concerns over whether or not Ground Zeroes will be released. He claimed that he was "going to be targeting a lot of taboos, a lot of mature themes, that really are quite risky" and that he is "not even sure if [he will] be able to release the game". He added that "as a creator, I want to take that risk. As a producer, it’s my job to try and sell the game. But I’m approaching this project from the point of view of a creator, where I’m prioritizing creativity over sales".

Fucker had best release the game.

>>23578696
>It's not a sequel to any metal gear solid at all!
Yes it is.

>It's a spin-off. Same as metal gear ac!d and other spin-offss
No its not. It's a direct sequel to MGS4. It's been stated both by Platinum and KojiPro that it's canon, unlike the spin-offs.

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>>23578726
>Getting turned on by women is bad
A true 4channer

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>>23578696
No offense, but that is the dumbest excuse I have ever heard.

It takes place after the previous game in the series, and follows the only main character we have left, Raiden. That's what I'd call a sequel- unless of course MGS2 isn't a sequel to MGS.

Also, it's not the same as AC!D. At all. This is Canon. AC!D takes place in a completely different universe.

>>23578726
>I got turned on by that. Is this bad?
If it is, I'm bad too. I'd love to fuck a sexy cyborg, and with all them hands...

Would a cyborg's vagina feel like a fleshlight?

Rolled 20

>>23578753
I was more concerned about the "multiple arms" thing
Meh, might as well roll

>>23578764

Her torso is still real. So...

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>>23578792
Hoohoohoo

>>23578741
>Spin-offs aren't canon
what?
I remember Buffy and Angel, and the spin-off of Angel is Canon

>>23578764
At first, then a meatgrinder.

For this is my fetish.

>>23578755
Except he's right.
Reveangeance isn't a sequel, it is a spin off.

Rolled 13

>>23578733
Its probably more an issue of will he be able to release it as he intended, or if he'll need to tone it down. Which he'll have to do anyway for an international release because fucking German/Australian/Japanese censorship

>>23578805
I don't think it is. I'm pretty sure all cyborgs in MGR are full-body. I know that at least the Winds of Destruction all have custom-build bodies.

Sam is the only exception, I think.

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>>23578839
It is. Kevin explicitly tells you so

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>>23578733
I don't think they've announced anything except for Ground Zeroes yet, so that's probably why you couldn't find the quote about "MGS5". But maybe I'm wrong.

As far as MGS5 taking place "Where Big Boss gets the real estate for Outer Heaven and like a third of the named characters" I'll bet (AKA really hope) that happens in Ground Zeroes.

Also, just out of curiosity, what do you think the "Taboos" he's talking about are? Design taboos, or cultural taboos?

>>23578741
>>23578755
Just because it's canon doesn't make it a sequel. It's in a completely different genre, with a different tone.

The way you're saying means that any time we have a game with raiden that is canon it would be automatically a sequel. That's bullshit. MGS2 was a sequel because the gameplay was the same, it had Snake in it, and had a similar tone.

Rolled 36

>>23578839
doktor says there's an 80% chance it's her real torso
let's see!

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Rolled 3

>>23578764
>>23578805
>>23578823
This seems appropriate..
Also she has rule 34 already. So there is that

>>23578858
oh my god what's wrong with your face

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>>23578830
Why do you keep saying that? It doesn't mean anything, except you keep saying it like it gives developers free reign to fuck over the end of a series' timeline.

I'm seriously baffled right now. WHY on earth would you think calling it a "spin-off" means ANYTHING? It's still canon. It still stars Raiden. It still takes place after MGS4. You can't compare it to AC!D.

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>>23578891
I check for rule 34 every 2 days or so, I have yet to see anything good
>>23578900
Breasts of that magnitude distort the light and gravity of the surroundings

Rolled 12

>>23578862
Cultural would be my guess. If its involving child soldiers, and possibly wars in africa it'll have to cross territory that even news teams steer away from due to moral complexity

>>23578902
>Spin-off:
>A product that started out as a feature of a once successful product whose market potential could be exhausted, often a TV show or movie.

Okay, who wants to get retarded?

Roll 2d100. Describing your character powers and abilities is optional.

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>>23578869
>It has a different tone, so it CAN'T be a sequel
Are you pulling my leg?

>The way you're saying means that any time we have a game with raiden that is canon it would automatically be a sequel
If it takes place at the end of the timeline, then yeah, it would be a sequel. But why does that word matter so much to you?

Rolled 43, 98 = 141

>>23578928

Rolled 11

>>23578902
It doesn't fuck over the ending, it just makes it bleaker by pointing out the inertia of humanity and the simple fact people will war with or without control.
And it turns Raiden into an utter badass on par with Big Boss

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Rolled 13, 33 = 46

>>23578928
Certainly

>>23578946
i am UNHEARD BAT
i went blind as a child, and because of that, i gained amazing abilities to hear
eventually i was able to control sound itself, and okay this is a really shitty power can i reroll

>>23578928
That list is terrible. It doesn't even have 'gaseous' on it.

>>23578862
>I don't think they've announced anything except for Ground Zeroes yet, so that's probably why you couldn't find the quote about "MGS5". But maybe I'm wrong.

I thought I read a quote from Kojima where he was saying Ground Zeroes was designed as part of a pair, but I can't find it. So either I'm missing it or I'm conflating some other developer with him.

Rolled 37, 13 = 50

>>23578928
Fuck it, let's roll.

Rolled 99, 38 = 137

>>23578956
Lance Puma
So, Mistral?

Rolled 54, 88 = 142

>>23578928
Oh I'm SO IN FOR THIS.

Rolled 16, 68 = 84

>>23578928
Lets rock and roll!

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>>23578980
>Laughing Tortoise

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>>23578862
>Also, just out of curiosity, what do you think the "Taboos" he's talking about are?

You're probably going to kill a child. Chico is clearly being sent in as a trojan horse in the trailer we have.

>>23576743
The problem is that conventional firearms didn't really make the same leap cyborg technology and melee technology did in the setting. Bullets are great, as evidenced by Solid Snake's liberal use of them in 2014, but high frequency conversion of materials is an expensive and lengthy process and can't reasonably be applied to ammunition (Which wouldn't really benefit that much from them anyway) when you can instead give someone supermuscles and a sword that can cut through anything.

That a whole lot of cyborgs are shown to be so damn fast helps.

Rolled 79, 5 = 84

>>23578928

rollan

>>23578928
Killer Sloth

He sleeps all the time, but it's actually because his body produces an insane amount of energy that he stores up for explosive lunges. He's a CQC expert, and don't think you can get the drop on him.

>>23578944
> But why does that word matter so much to you
You see, you're wrong. You're wrong on the internet. I can't have someone being wrong on the internet.

>If it takes place at the end of the timeline, then yeah, it would be a sequel. But why does that word matter so much to you?

So if there was a metal gear dance dance revolution that was canon and had raiden in it, it would be a sequel?

>>23578928

Am I stupid or is there no 79?

Rolled 91, 89 = 180

>>23578928

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>>23578953
>It doesn't fuck over the ending, it just totally invalidates everything Solid Snake worked for, makes him look like a huge pussy in comparison, and, instead of sticking with the MGS4 ending with Raiden finally being able to except the past and act like a goddamn adult, he goes back into man-child mode

>And it turns Raiden into an utter badass on par with Big Boss
Because instead of being the cold child soldier, and a man shaped quite directly by VR and The Patriots, he turns into- TIME FOR JACK TO LETTER' RIP.

Rolled 85, 26 = 111

>>23578992
I am SWORD VOLE!
I...guess I'm short, armed with a sword and can dig around?
Lets Daft Punk this shit, one more time

Rolled 64, 96 = 160

>>23578928

>>23579044
It's just me being retarded and cropping it wrong. Give me a second.

>>23578975
>I thought I read a quote from Kojima where he was saying Ground Zeroes was designed as part of a pair
You're thinking of the trailer quote "FROM FOX, TWO PHANTOMS WERE BORN" and then the phantom pain trailer came out, and now everyone assumes that means two games.

>>23579066
Alrighty!

>>23579072
Well, that could just mean Phantom Pain is running on the Fox engine. Isn't half the point of making a game engine licensing it for sweet monies?

>>23579045
Liquid Bear

A russian pro-wrestler turned mercenary turned cyborg that is incredibly hard to pin down. Special Powers: turning liquid trough the magic of nano-machines

Rolled 95, 6 = 101

>>23579053
Raiden finally gets free of the Patriots and cuts his own path, deciding what he wants and fighting for what he believes in, the overarching goal of both Big Boss and Snake across the series
As for invalidating Snake it doesn't, just points out that eliminating the Patriots is the most important step towards freeing the world from war for profit

>>23579034
>So if there was a metal gear dance dance revolution that was canon and had raiden in it, it would be a sequel?

If it took place after MGS4 and Rising, and advanced the world/story forward, then sure. From a story perspective (AKA the only thing I'm talking about) it would be a sequel. Mechanically, no, as it doesn't build upon the foundation of sneaking, but I wasn't arguing that.

>>23576615
Tanks with legs that moo.

Rolled 20, 18 = 38

>>23578928

Let's do this.

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Best girl.

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Rolled 67, 8 = 75

There, fixed.

Might as well roll too.

>>23578926

>In media, a spin-off is a radio program, television program, video game, or any narrative work, derived from one or more already existing works, that focuses, in particular, in more detail on one aspect of that original work (e.g. a particular topic, character, or event)

Would you look at that?

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>>23579111
>Liquid Bear
Well now I'm thirsty

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>>23579095
It's clearly a metal gear game, or at least made to look like one. Check this picture out.

I'm convinced they're the same game and it's just Kojima pulling a MAJOR Raiden-MGS2-style switch.

Rolled 88, 63 = 151

>>23578928
LET'S FOOKIN' DO THIS.

Rolled 32, 81 = 113

>>23578971
yeah i'll just reroll

>>23579150
>Rushing Ant

You think this is funny? Let's see how funny is a man that can lift ten times his own weight!

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>>23579147
My heart belongs to the Strange.

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>>23578452
The Ac!d series were in a different universe where Snake was a clone of Solid Snake.

Not to mention Ac!d having some awesome stuff like this guy right here.

Or a railgun that shoot Snakes.

Not the animal kind either.

>>23578928

Shield Tortoise. Master of fortifications and protection. He drives around in a modified APC which he uses to shield his soldiers.

Rolled 15

>>23579176
i am BLAST

...blast uhh
uh

>>23579147
She's adorable.

>>23579196
BLAST SNAKE
i have the ability to shoot rockets at snake and then die because i'm a bad guy

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Rolled 26, 94 = 120

>>23578928
It's ROLLIN' TIME.

>>23579170
>fencer gerbil
I'M GOING TO FUCK SHIT ROYALLY.

>>23579168
Thing is, Big Boss had both arms and the soldiers in the Phantom Pain trailer look more modern than the mid seventies that Ground Zeroes is. It's probably us being fucked with in some way, but I don't think we're going to get an MGS2 style protagonist switch. Maybe multiple main characters you play at various points, but no flat out swapping up on us.

>>23579138

Catapult Alligator

No nanomachines. No crazy gear.

I'm just a dude who walljumps at people and tries to bite them to death.

>>23579150

I am Venom Beetle!

Wearing his beetle carapace "exoskeleton" his lymph nodes have been altered by NANOMACHINES to excrete a deadly toxin that he can expel as gas from his pores. This gas is stored in his suit's chambers and used as a weapon. The suit also grants him great strength and the ability to to stick to walls.

Rolled 31, 23 = 54

>>23578980
Shit bounces off me as I stomp through the enemy laughing. I'm cool with that.

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>>23579206
>Stone Rhino

Well, here's a picture of me. I'd say I fit in quite well.

>>23579155
That only seems to confirm that metal gear rising is a spin-off.

>>23579248

That's the point.

>>23579150
> Rocket Crocodile

A master of close quarters combat, he utilizes a ram shackle jet pack to quickly close the distance to preform his "Death Spin" attack where he grabs his target while he's flying and slams down while spinning at high velocity.

What was up with the Phantom Pain name? It's making me suspicious of Deep Down too.

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>>23579231
No, I'm not talking protagonist switch, I'm talking GAME SWITCH.

Either it's made to look like two metal gear games, and it turns out to be one, OR it's made to look like two metal gear games, and it turns out The Phantom Pain was never a Metal Gear game to begin with- and Kojima just left hints so we would think we're clever and smart.

>>23579247
>Stone Rhino

You see, I made that shit for stuff like that.

I'm waiting for somebody to roll Flaming Flamingo.

Rolled 55, 74 = 129

Gotta roll for name. Have to do this.

>>23579274
You mean the lettering or the actual name?

Rolled 10, 78 = 88

>>23579150

>>23579287
A Mexican-American arsonist and revolutionary?

>>23579292
The misdirection with the name.

Rolled 61, 51 = 112

>>23578928
Lets see

>>23579283
>and it turns out The Phantom Pain was never a Metal Gear game to begin with


They pull a switch up on us by...not lying and in fact being completely truthful about the game's contents? Phantom Pain is supposedly a survival horror from some Swedes, right? It'd be weird if we're being trolled by their being completely honest and we just assume they aren't.

>>23579290
I am SLASHER BEAVER. Oh god... Do I have a tail made of swords or something?

Rolled 84, 35 = 119

>>23579305
Cannon Marten. I don't even know what a Marten is.

>>23579326
Some small weasel I think?

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>>23579317
Brass Bull... like.. the old torture device?

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>>23579318
Calling it now.

Someone screencap this conversation.

>>23579318
It's MGS.

>>23579321
Sexual psychopath serial killer, mutilates genitals.

Rolled 30, 95 = 125

>>23579150

Rolled 1, 93 = 94

>>23579388
Tsunami Hippo

Wtf mang

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Rolled 8, 46 = 54

>>23579150
Ah! I'll roll with the new chart, see what I get.

Rolled 28, 8 = 36

>>23579150
Right, one more time!

Rolled 15, 59 = 74

>>23579388
>Tsunami Hippo
My sides have entered the orbit.

Rolled 77, 6 = 83

>>23579401
Cyclone Ant
Huh, weird. Do I have super strength and fighting by whirling around unpredictably? Or am I just stupidly fast on my multiple legs?

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>>23579344

I was thinking something more along the lines of pic related

>>23579431
NANOMACHINES.

You'd best spit fire or something.

>>23579317
I am Brass Bull, I probably live with a herd of cows and try to kill Snake by goreing him with some bull horns strapped to my head

>>23579150
Ah, what the hell, rollan again. I didn't think it would be so fun, even though most of the rolls are quite bizarre.