However, not everything is as idyllic and utopian as it seems on the surface. Infinity City has a limited amount of space and a long list of eager attendees trying to get in and live the dream.

For some, this makes rooms the most valuable commodity to trade, and if they really need to, certain individuals aren't above making people disappear to secure a valuable piece of property.

Smaller vendors have to worry about staying in business when their shipments keep getting stolen before they ever arrive. Crafters have to worry about getting their hands on the limited materials that are within the city, scrounging for every scrap of cardboard or wood or cloth or thread they can get their hands on. The Security staff are on their toes around the clock, dealing with thieves, trying to curtail the drug trafficking brought in by the Ravers. There's even a growing homeless problem as kids come to InfiniCon and decide they never want to leave.. But that's barely scratching the surface..

For some, these problems are a Godsend, allowing for openings in a business where anyone willing to solve a problem can get paid. Play bodyguard for a smalltime book dealer, break up disputes between cosplay-clad gangs, garbage valuable materials for a desperate propmaker, deliver the latest shipment of badges for the next big event.. Anything and everything. It may not seem like fun, but if that's what it takes to live in Infinity City, and some prefer it to living anywhere else.

Not sure what I'm doing with this. Just felt like kicking around the idea. I might use it as a Mortals-only WoD campaign setting, just to mix things up.

Thoughts, /tg/?

I'd go.

Further extrapolating on the idea, I imagine a sort of Turf War taking place on the city streets with Stormtrooper armor clad nerds trying to chase the anime kids away from their local McDonalds by clubbing them with iron robs painted as lightsabers.

Or something like, not being able to get into a certain club or bar without flashing a cosplay related item..
>No Strawhats allowed in here. This is Sailor Moon territory, kid.

What's this?
Interesting thread going unnoticed?
Not on MY /tg/!!

Seems like an interesting setting, especially if you've got a little weeaboo in you. Either way, the idea of playing a hardboiled detective mercenary scouring the seedy underbelly of a massive convention sounds kind of neat.

Might make good quest thread material.

>>17598013
I thought it was a quest thread when it started, and now I am the sad. :(

>>17598035
OP here. I don't have the time tonight to run a quest thread tonight. This was a sort of diversion from writing up shit for the game I'm running tonight.

>>17597509
>Further extrapolating on the idea, I imagine a sort of Turf War taking place on the city streets with Stormtrooper armor clad nerds trying to chase the anime kids away from their local McDonalds by clubbing them with iron robs painted as lightsabers.


Nerd turf wars? Hell yes, I love this idea.

This reminded me of the serial killer's convention in "Sandman," for some reason. I like the idea that after hours the convention center is used to run somewhat seedier cons that most people don't know about.

>>17598121

Well since the con is always going on, I'd imagine those guys are set up in like the basement, or some dark, dank, cordoned-off area of the convention buildings.

There are certain parts of the center where the lights flicker and no one else goes, because it's rumored that terrible things happen to those wander too far away from the mezzanine.

>>17598121
There isn't really "after hours" when it's running 24/7 every day of the year. At least not the way I imagined it.

It's more like InfiniCon is just so big and so diverse that they can't possibly control all the crazy shit that goes on, even with an extensive police force of sorts.

At every convention I've been to, there's always a few dozen people who overdose, or get alcohol poisoning, or just generally do something stupid and injure themselves badly (I once knew a guy who smashed a shot glass in his pocket and ripped open his thigh at a con, for instance)

So all that, dark seedy underbelly stuff is just kind of happening amongst all the hustle and bustle of several hundred thousand people moving around. Not saying that Murder happens all the time, but someone might get threatened out of their home and some might get their skull bashed in and their body slipped through one of the janitors' halls where no one will ever see them.

>>17598101

I love that, except for stormtroopers using lightsabers.

The perfect getaway...right?

Go in costume.

It's like a giant crossover campaign, except everybody's power level is the same by default. Brilliant!

>>17598179

Still, it's sort of amusing to think the convention mindset has seeped into every level of the community, so that even the criminals have a smuggler's con, a hitmen con, an organ harvesters con...

Although this may be straying into silly waters.

>>17598238

Haha, it'd be like trying to find one specific cab in New York. Imagine the headache it'd give the security detail.

"Now, according to eye-witnesses, the perp was wearing a Spider-man costume."

"Well, that narrows it down to... let's see" *checks database*...."about 450 possible suspects, depending on how strictly you want to classify 'Spider-man costume'"

"Oh Jesus give me strength..."

Every once in a while, you get a cosplayer that isn't. Usually a bored transdimensional being or godling playing dressup on their weekend out, but....

>>17598249
The whole idea is pretty ridiculous by default, but I think the murderers and killers thing falls outside my original idea.

It's a city founded by and run by all the nerds and weeaboos and geeks who run the other big conventions. It's a clusterfuck of PAX, Anime Expo, Gen Con, and the world's biggest LARP game, plus some other random little nerdy shit tossed in. Not necessarily a convention area for everything ever.

>>17598296
Toss all the Comic-Cons in there too.

>>17598277
I know just the man for the job!

Lou Ferigno and all the other washed up D-Listers have mansions in Infinity City

>>17598407
Try hotel suites and you're halfway there.

I could imagine security as being on a mercenary style level, with different businesses popping up to feed the need for security....think mini-blackwater style operations, and thats before organized crime wants in and tries to set up protection brackets in certain areas

I think this could be an interesting idea OP

I kind of imagine it looking a bit like Top Ten, only instead of everyone being some kind of superhero or alien or whatever, everybody is dressed up as a superhero or alien or whatever.

It'd be pretty funny.

In certain parts of the city, landlords begin turning into more of feudal lords as they strike deals with small vendors and enlist local con gangs, who live in the lords apartment complex, as a sort of local militia

>>17598498

I know I've been playing too much Assassin's Creed 2, when the first thing I think of is "Oh hey new codex page to get."

oddly enough, this is one of those situations that would bring about a "no guns" setting....if security is tight enough of course, though the thought of improvised combat might be ok enough to make tight enough security a given

>come every day as a space marine
Fuck yeah.

>>17598391

>>17598293
"Oh my god nice costume!"
"Uh... Yeah, costume, right, right. Anyway, can you tell me where the nearest spaceport is?"

>>17598565

>>17598226
Look at it this way- a cease-fire between the empire and jedi cosplayers.

Which brings to mind the idea of treaties. I can imagine the Star Trec and the Battlestar Galactica nerds at peace, turning their hate towards Star Wars.
The Power Ranger fans and the Sailor Moon fans seem like they'd be on good terms as well.

For some reason, I can see a Cylon and a Cyberman having a good time together.

>>17598598

Or even worse,

>"I wear no mask."

>>17598609
dat costume
holy shit.

I wouldn't mind being on the security force, even though I would totally help the Ravers sell drugs on the side. My only concern is if I was assigned to patrol Furrytown my job satisfaction would plummet.

Some other ideas to mull over

>With live steel being banned, there is a high demand for skilled craftsmen who can make solid, yet still detailed replicas for combative types to defend themselves with.

>The uppity fags of in the Renaissance district are the go-to guys for functioning protective wear.

>Seeing as Conventions often wreak of BO, soap and other hygiene products have become a secondary currency of sorts.

>Although the rest of the world knows of the InfiniCon, most don't know about the more unstable inner workings, though there are some suppliers who make a living outside the con shipping valuable goods for a premium and those who make sure they get where they are supposed to go without getting hi-jacked by other attendees in the city.

>Like most Cons, InfiniCon has its share of sexual promiscuity. There are certain known hotel rooms that host a collection of of beautiful costumed 'entertainers' who will fulfill any fantasy for a price or possibly a favor.

>For longtime residents of InfiniCon, costuming isn't just something to do for fun, it's often the only kind of clothes they own. Not that there are any rules against normal clothes, but certain groups won't guarantee any protection unless you show some solidarity with their favorite series. The Narutards, for instance, only protect those who carry one of their headbands

I just have this image of the SCA or similar organizations setting up shop to teach self-defense or hire out bodyguards.

Eventually the groups would probably all band together into a single Fighters' Guild. Members would be guaranteed room and board from Guild holdings, honorary membership in all the sponsoring organizations, and all the criminal scum they can possibly beat up.

It'd be like being a landed knight, only with slightly more cobbled-together gear.

>>17598633
>Seeing as Conventions often wreak of BO, soap and other hygiene products have become a secondary currency of sorts.

Or do it like medieval europe and all the people who can't stand the smell go around with perfumed handkerchiefs when out in the convention halls.

>>17598633
>With live steel being banned,
no problem. unarmored people could easily die from wooden weapons as well

>>17598657
Running water isn't scarce, but if you're anyone who anyone at the Con, you'll want to smell nice and look good when you deal with other attendees.

>>17598633
>The Narutards, for instance, only protect those who carry one of their headbands

Now all I think about is one of the Narutards being a actual ninja in disguise, spying on them for one of the other groups.

Infinity City sounds like the perfect place for Mr. Johnson to have a job that needs doing. Mass convention + Shadowrun + PCs = profit.

>>17598693

Oh man, mafia wars and mob fights and gang battles with nerd subcultures.

This is the greatest setting idea ever.

>>17597062
>>17597268
>>17597384
>>17597509

So... You're building Hollywood?

>>17598757
No..?

>>17598689
But there could be a clan of underground neckbeards who are absolutely repulsive but attack with massive numbers and surprising speed.

>>17598771
Morlock Neckbeard Barbarians, huh?

Now I'm imagining a clan of Neckbeards threatening to send Cheetoh Fingers guy after people.
>Don't fuck with us or Dangerously Cheesy over here will break into your apartment, touch all of your costumes or take every book in your collection, or examine every figure in your collection or whatever the fuck you've got in there!
>WE WILL RUIN YOU IF YOU CROSS US!

>>17598771
The Nurgling Flesh-Wave I suppose?

>>17598757
I live in SoCal. People don't walk around Hollywood in costume (without being laughed at).

Still, there would probably be huge amounts of fanart floating around, and artists would be commonplace and fairly easy to find. There might even be an artist's district, where one can hire them for a fair price.

It sounds cool in theory, but knowing /tg/, they're going to pull some western-centric bullshit where anime cosplayers are herded into concentration camps or treated like second class citizens because HURR WESTERN IS BEST FUCK JAPAN.

>>17598721

I see how the EU larpers hating on the US larpers, the SCAdians hating on the larpers in general, the reenactors hating on the SCAdians.
And the Guild of St. Olaus laughing at all of those casuals.

But when the weeaboos start doing shit in their territory they will unite to kick some ass

>>17598856
No no no.. If we're going to demonize any fandom or group of weirdos, the universal antagonist will be the Furries.

I suppose hair spray and gel would be priceless in the right circles.

>>17598856
But everybody knows that japanese gangs are way more insane and violent than american ones so that would probably translate to the full time cos-players as well

>>17598869
>A group of frilly Lolita cosplayers have wandered into the middle of the LARP forest for a Photoshoot.
>They have broken the treaty to not trespass on scheduled battle days.
>Wat do?

>>17598894
RAPE AND MURDER!!!!!

>>17598894

What every Landsknecht do the best.. Rape

>It sounds cool in theory, but knowing [group C], they're going to pull some [group1]-centric bullshit where [group2 members] are herded into concentration camps or treated like second class citizens because HURR [GROUP1] IS BEST FUCK [GROUP2].
Like, in- oh, hi there.
>>17598870

>>17598869

>implying the Japanese feudal warfare re-enactors just won't form musket and pike lines and blow your ass to pieces.

Yep, they have intensive re-enactment societies over there too, and unlike most EU or US ones, they also allow firearms in the form of muskets or flintlocks. Ironically, Japanese muskets ended up being of a better quality then the original Portuguese design.

>>17598900
>>17598914

xXx_HARDCORE_420_FUCK_JAPAN_REMEMBER_PERL_HABOR_420_HARDCORE_xXx

>>17598856
I'd see it as more of a more of a mutual hatedom, with both groups constantly trying to show the other up.

Although any large factions that form will be largely temporary, only staying together to battle and then dissolving due to in-fighting.

>>17598900
>>17598914
>>17598932
>Turns out they were all traps.
>You have made a horrible mistake
>Reload from last save?
> Y / N

>>17598915

See

>>17598900
>>17598914
>>17598894
>>17598869

It's perfectly fine to act like a nerd when it's based off western sci-fi or fantasy, but when someone shows up dressed up in samurai armor OH NO GODDAMN WEEBS ARE HERE EVERYONE BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF THEM

>>17598932
They'd have said the same thing if it was Elves, Tau or Eldar. There's just some things you don't do (or are) around devou/tg/uardsmen.

>>17598921
Grorious Nippon wins again!

>>17598950

Exactly. You could never properly develop a game on /tg/ revolving around this idea because /tg/ will automatically hate on and shut down anything that goes against the "established list of approval". If you want to actually flesh out the system, OP, you might want to take this idea to a different traditional games website.

>>17598921

japanes reenactors != weeaboos
Also surprisingly the western guys did more pike and musket formations

>>17598915
Opposing groups would treat foreigners in their territory like second class citizens, just like RL

Now imagine the wind shifts, blowing towards your home town.
Imagine the smell.

>>17598870

BBEG is a drug lord... and blue hermaphrodite wing'ed fox.

Players must occaisionally stop combat to burst into uproarious laughter.

>>17598965
I think /tg/ is handling the idea just fine, honestly. You were really the first one to bring up the idea that /tg/ would start insisting inferiority.

Seriously, bro, do not underestimate /tg/'s ability to be the best part of every single other board on 4chan.

Besides, not building a system, just booting around an idea which might end up as a quest thread in a day or two.

>>17598945

what mistake?
Just look at these clothes

In the lowest levels of the Con, it's best to wear a pressure suit.

>>17598965
Just say that the setting is an in-universe guide, made by a /tg/ analog. The bad stuff about the other groups is propaganda.

Now, if you were going into the furry sector, you'd probably want a flamethrower. The halls echo with the screeches of creatures that interbred and spawned degenerate things less than human over the ages.

>>17598982
>You have been brought before the leader of the Furry Faction of InfiniCon
>LadyLord Princess SoulFeather strokes her obscenely large strap on hawkdick as she gazes at you from behind the enormous cartoonish eyes of her blue wolf-fox-phoenix fursuit.
>Roll to resist laughter

I would play it

>>17598984

>>17597509
>>17598101
>>17598226

See these posts. Not two posts in from you finishing your proposal and /tg/ automatically jumps to "clubbing weeaboos with iron rods".

>>17599032
I posted that the thing about StormTroopers getting into turf wards. Not really a assertion of superiority or inferiority, just a silly idea about nerds getting into fights over who owns the local McDonalds.

Y'mean a setting where I can actually defend my weeaboo bretheren from neckbeard wrath?
Glorious.

We'd need an encounter with one of those dudes in the ridiculously good Gundam outfits though. That or Mr. Satan as a faction head. Possibly both.

>>17599050

what about the Burger King?

>>17598982
Dude...when furries exist in InfiniCon, there is no way that that's the BBEG.

Semirelatedly:
Consider that all these fandoms have now finally broken "real life" if they stay. Now they can, potentially, exist of their own. The echo-chamber effect could potentially skyrocket...if political alliances don't mitigate it, as they well could.

Or, groups do NOT monolithically stand as one, say, Lucasites battle with Han Shot Firsters. (Naturally, they cannot agree who fired the first shot in their own battle either.)

>>17599084

Satan Gundam?

>>17599091
The Cult of Waru is a persistent danger. It's all the Imperial splinter groups and Rebel camps can do to keep them in check, with occasional help and interference from the Trekkites.

When they're not engaging in running turf-wars with blasters and phasers, that is.

>>17599091
I could swear I made a post related to this.

>>17598938
There it is.

So the basic idea would that, for example, the Lucasites are engaged in a civil war with Han Shot Firsters, but them put this on hold to fight off an invasion by the Trekkies. Once the Trekkies are defeated, the go right back to fighting with each other.

Personally, I would have thought that there would have initially been somewhat of a Grand Weeaboo Alliance, which broke up due to infighting about Subs vs. Dubs, and then became the multi-faceted fandom it is now.

... Come to think of it, the Anime fans are basically the Holy Roman Empire.

>>17599084
I kind of imagine Gundamn cosplayers as the guys who smuggle shit around cons. They have those huge bulky costumes with lots of space to hide things.

>>17599088
Well, as a Kingdom, I imagine the LARPers may claim Burger Kings as their own..

>>17599091
Every group has in-fighting, but when threatened by another group, there is some unification, at least long enough to deal with the opposing faction so they can go back to fighting amongst themselves.

>>17599156
Clarification: Even IF you run Furries as the "evil" faction...you're doing it wrong if that's the BBE"G". I mean, that's like the "3rd-level sergeant" or "5th-level lieutenant".
>>17599180
I dunno. I could see schis-

Oh gods. Trolls as an underworld faction?

I'm heading out in a few minutes. Thanks for all your input and ideas, /tg/.

If I get the chance, I'll propose running this setting with my group as a nWoD game and since I'll have some free time and be snowed in tomorrow, I'll probably run a little quest thread.

>>17599258
>Nwod
You might want to look into Senshi: The Merchandising. It seems right up your alley.

So hypothetically, under this system, I could recruit a gang of guys, have them all dress up as Japanese high school delinquents, take over a high school, and rename it Cromartie?

10/10 Best gaming system I've ever seen on this board.

>>17599344

Sounds more like a setting idea than an actual system. This is just a cool change from the traditional politics and power plays of medieval europe or some sort of cyberpunk city.

I dress up as a pokemon trainer when I go to cons. But I'm also a dubfag when it comes to anime. But I also love the west and play lots of tabletop games and roleplay. I see myself being found factionless and dead fast in this setting, as the promotional pokeballs burger king released wont serve as effective weapons at all.

But to contribute-
I don't see how lack of materials would be an issue for crafters, in all reality I see the con being a constant foreign import trade. The issue would be people traveling there would have huge issues with people sneaking into their semis to try to get in, etc.

Also how would the prison system work? Law enforcement would be a large issue.

I could see laws being stupidly strict, but due the high ammounts of crowds its easy to slip away from police, hence there would be a high ammount of undercover agents.

>>17599429

>fill pokeballs with explosives

VOLTORB I CHOOSE YOU USE EXPLODE

>>17599453
I like your thinking, get a red marker and a hat and lets talk business

>>17599490

Wait, there's more!

>fill pokeballs with flashbangs

VOLTORB USE LIGHT SCREEN

>fill pokeballs with remote controlled speakers

VOLTORB USE SONIC BOOM

>fill pokeballs with acid

VOLTORB USE TOXIC

>fill pokeballs with smaller pokeballs

VOLTORB USE DOUBLE TEAM

>put photocopy of your middle finger in pokeball

VOLTORB USE TAUNT

>fill pokeball with water

VOLTORB USE RAIN DANCE

Granted, you'll only be able to use Voltorbs and Electrodes, but a pokemon trainer cosplayer would be totally doable.

I can kinda see those rare few people who don't wear Cosplay as being like the Neutral guys, the people that everyone uses to relay messages and broker treaties. Kinda like the Swiss in that aspect.

prison systems, prisoners are dressed up as monsters, and let loose into a sealed off area of utility tunnels. then Adventurers are allowed in to "cleanse" the dungeon of evil.

This part of the convention hall is deserted and taped off as I enter. Discarded coupons and food wrappings litter the floor as I make my way towards the crime scene. I remember the city not being like this, fresh and clean and full of possiblity. I guess its like that when your new. When you don't know the truth. I saunter up to my fellow ICPD Detective. "What we got Porkins?" He chuckles at that. He usually cosplays as fight poilot luke when off duty, but doesn't have the... build for it.

He starts going through the motions. Telling me things I've heard a hundred times before. As I stand there in the muck of the center I listen and start pieceing it together. This should be in the Anime squads jurisdiction but they don't handle murders. "...He stumbled down some stairs quite a bit before collapsing from his wounds." Porkins finshes his droning.

I kneel down next to the victim and examine the wig he was wearing. Somebody is killing Spikes. I need to find out why.

>>17600058
Yes.

>>17600058
>Somebody is killing Spikes. I need to find out why.

The BASTARDS

Just popped in here to say: This sounds awesome. I will likely make some sort of shadowrun adventure out of this setting, and without matrix or heavy magic/astral stuff, it could make a fantastic complete story for shadowrun.

Keep up the great work.

Now commencing the story of the street samurai Hunter. dont 404 on me!

I knew the dangers, but I went anyways. Now I was surrounded, and out of options. On all sides of me, there were men in piecemeal armor, their bodies painted green, Orcs. I knew I was out of my league, these guys are part of the “Random Encounters” gang, and I was just another bit of XP for them.
Suddenly one of them cried out from behind them, “Twenty Damage” and then another, “Twenty Damage,” and I watched as they turned. Most of them immediately fled, leaving behind a few of their comrades, now laying unconscious on the ground. Before them stood a group of men, clad in white armor that glinted in the faint emergency lights of these convention halls.
“Hey Weaboo, you are pretty far from your stomping ground, aren’t you?"

And that's how I met the knights of infinicon

>>17600392

Went ahead and archived this in case you guys want to continue working on it.

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/17597062/

>>17600392
Actually, Im going to kick back and read this >>17600431
Love me by hardboiled detectives

OP reporting from my weekly game. One of my players is over an hour later, so I decided to come check on the thread.

>>17600431
>>17600058
I'm loving these little snippets you guys are writing. Keep up the good work. It pleases OP.

The florescents flicker overhead. Something smells off in this hall...damp. The AC might be flooded. God, I hope we haven't strayed into Furry Country.

Donnie kneels in front of the door. He works IT for the Mariot...but he's got a wicked pocky habit that keeps him in debt to me. I nod, and he fishes out his sequencer. This place is practically abandoned, no way they're keeping up on keycard protocol. I watch down one way, the Redshirt I've hired looks down the other. I don't even bother learning their names any more.

The door clicks open, and Donnie lets out a little "Hah!" I shush him quickly...it's getting too quiet, but if my contact is right, this room is where the Neonites stash their shipments. And they can't wear those leather coats without that slicked-back hair. We slip inside, and I make sure the door doesn't close all the way...could be an ambush.

Inside the room is...messy. Once this place gets bought out, they're gonna need some major Housecleaning. On one of the soiled beds is a box, and my eyes gleam. I pull a contraband boxcutter outta my boot and open it up. Gatsby. Goldmine. I motion the others to start loading their packs. The Narutards have a dozen badges to some game event next month, and I can turn those around to some guy outside for some quality bolts of fabric...the wheel turns round and round, and I think somehow I can pay off my bill...well...some of it, any way.

>>17600584
"YIFF!" "Yerf? Yerf scritches?"

Oh god, I can hear them outside. Donnie starts crying, and Redshirt and I share a glance. I think he already knows what's gonna happen. We zip up our packs and get ready to make a run.

BAM! The door slams open, propelled by my boot, and I can already smell them. As I leap out into the hall, I see him. Maybe the Alpha, maybe just a Bitch, but all he's wearing are a pair of cat ears and gray briefs that are strained by his erection. I head the other way.

The Red Shirt puffs beside me, and it would be so easy to let Donnie drop behind, but the kid's useful to me. As we round a bend, I shove Red Shirt hard. He bounces off the opposite wall and falls, stunned. We both knew it would end like this.

I don't even bother learning their names any more...

>>17599009
>mfw I fail miserably

Also OP, to what extent will the conferences extend to? I think you should be able to buy supplies from the Butchers Con or get building tips from the Plumbers Con etc etc.

Or is this strictly nerdy shit?

>>17600635
Pretty sure it was stated that this is Nerd Con, not Everyone Forever Con.

>>17600635
Strictly nerd shit. Anime and games and comics and that sort of stuff. It's a fairly small city, not really large enough to contain every kind convention ever.

This doesn't mean that people who attend can't be plumbers or carpenters or whatever, just that InfiniCon only caters to nerdy subcultures.

>>17600606
>>17600584
>I don't even both learning their names anymore.

>>17600690
Hmmm... what do you think about people who owe their allegiances to more than one subculture? I particularly like about what another poster stated about factions having subgroups that argue between each other on the down time, trying to push their internal agenda behind closed doors.

There was five of them in all, each one wearing a gleaming shined armor, all of them carrying pure white boffers. Compared to the local peasants and warriors that are found in this part of InfiniCon, they are shining beacons of purity. The tallest of the group, wearing a helmet that obscured all but his eyes, bore down at me. I shifted uncomfortably, trying to fix my offwhite shirt under my brown overalls, and pulled the goggles off of my eyes.
“Hah, so we saved a pirate coward from some green cowards,” he said in a deep voice. I looked down a bit ashamed, after all I was dressed as a coward. I was one of the lowest tiers in the “Strawhats Nakama” replacing the last guy who fell during the last Shonen battles.
“Stop teasing him, he’s probably lost and a far way from home,” Came a female voice from behind two of the other knights. She stepped forward, and was dressed in long flowing ceremonial robes. She approached me, and then took off a glove, there was a black X on the back of her hand, I recognized it immediately.
“Don’t worry, you are with friends here,” She said as she removed her helm, letting her blue dyed hair fall out.

Has anyone thought about medical care/facilities?

With so much violence and conflict between factions, as well as lifestyles that aren't very healthy to begin with, doctors and ambulatory workers would be in high demand.
There might be varying degrees of quality as well, with the poorer con-goers forced to rely on back-alley types, and faction leaders/con organizers have access to pristine hospitals and clinics. Maybe some factions would offer health insurance or at least health care to its members?

>>17598945
>implying that's a mistake

>>17600718

You can probably have sympathies or alliances with different groups, but sooner or later when shit hits the fan, you'll need to commit to one or the other.

It'd be interesting to read about someone in that kind of situation, forced to choose one side when the respective groups start warring, a sort of brother-against-brother drama.

Would there be a faction of all the Warhammer 40k cosplayers? Would the Fantasy Battle and 40k counterparts fight?

>>17600879
Would groups be divided up by genres? Specific shows/games/hobbies?

>>17600921

Think of it like religious groups. You have one large, over-arching classification, and then different sects within that group. I would imagine that lifestyles and culture lines would be more prominent than specific show fanbases in most cases. There's always exceptions though.

Also, about the "normals" can you start as a normal and get sucked into operating for one of the factions or some other shit involved? Or maybe the normals without a standing at the con are forcefully coerced into doing things that only someone who is unknown could do?

So would endgame be when the real military from outside infinicon city attacks and the heroes must band everyone together to fight back?

or is the BBEG some butthurt villain whose cosplay doesn't get enough attention so he plans on blowing up the convention?

>>17600972
What are you thinking are the core, or main overhead factions? Like the Big 5 or some shit like that?

>>17600992
>LadyLord Foxpheonix McFurfag and furries in general have already been established as universally hated.

I imagine them being like a zombie infestation that's been contained in the dankest and lowest parts of the Con.

Maybe a campaign of a furry security breach, where mass chaos and quarentines ensue would be pretty cool. And various people, groups and what not will hire adventures to go into infected zones and get valuables that were long ago abandoned.

Either way, OP this things got so much fuckin potential.

>>17601000
The Big ones would probably be something like:
Anime
Western Animation/Comics
Scifi
Fantasy
Furry

and then a boatload of smaller factions.

>>17600921
I would imagine that the main factions would be defined by general interests (like Anime, Video Games, Traditional Games, Comics, etc), with subfactions and subgroups getting more and more specific. Those main factions would have their own parts of the city.

Within those general interests, the groups would get more specific. For example, within the Traditional Games faction you would have divisions between wargamers, tabletop rpgs, board games, LARP, etc. Within those divisons you could probably divide into specifics (like the tabletop rpg group would have WoD, D&D, GURPS, Savage Worlds, etc). The main interest factions would likely have representatives from each main subgroup, and together they make decisions for the faction as a whole.

The entire thing makes for a complex web of alliances and war. There are cross-faction alliances between the smaller groups, as well as bitter rivalries between fandoms within a certain category. (the people highest on the pecking order are more concerned with keeping things running smoothly, and don't care much for the quarrels of smallfolk).

>>17601140
Some ideas:
>The D&D subgroup cannot even be called a faction. It is the most divided game within all of InfiniCon, with bitter rivalries between editions. The 3.x group is the dominant force, however the Second edition/AD&D has a very strong, dedicated following, and more experience. There are rumors of a new faction on the rise...
>Though they are loathed by nearly everyone, including within their own faction, the InuYasha and Naruto groups have created an alliance. Con-goers are warned not to go near their territory, unless they like squealing yaoi fangirls and endless filler.
>On the other hand, Cowboy Bebop is a powerful, very successful faction. They are respected and even like far beyond the limits of the Anime sector.
>Warhammer 40k fans have a tireless crusade against the Furries. They have received support from all across the city, even in the most unlikely of places.

>>17597062
So what year of Otakon was that pic from?

>>17601149
I like the idea of DnD holy wars on who has the ONE TRUE RULESET. But wouldn't there be small crossover sections like people who make really weeaboo tabletop games?

>>17601140
Likin this even more so far OP.

But what if the East meets West is an all encompassing "religious" doctrine. where when a particular argument becomes heated enough, and various factions and players have political, economic, or security interests to go along with it, hugescale crusades happen where unified factions can be split asunder until its resolved?

>>17601054

but what about actual zombie cosplayers and stalker larpers?

>>17600978

I'd imagine there would be some unaffiliated people, because while it'd be difficult not having the protection of a certain group all the time and just relying on favors, you also don't have to worry about being dragged into a gang war every other week.

And like you said, there's a lot of places a "normal" can go that someone tied to a specific group can't. It'd be an advantage and a disadvantage.

>>17601054
a paranoid "furry inquisition" attempting to figure out who around them are secret furries (because under the fursuit, they could be anyone!).

>>17601196

They're not zombies ALL the time though.

Furries, at least the ones that are most hated by the other factions, become an all-consuming culture that swallows up anyone who happens to join into it. More of a cult than a simple faction or group.

>>17601196
Well fuck, didn't account for "actual zombies" lol. As for stalker larpers I can only imagine that their experience will translate well into encroaching furry infested territory.

>unrelated note there's stalker larps?

Hollywood is the wrong thing to think about. Infinity City, with its "always on" nature and being dedicated to one leisure activity would be much more like Las Vegas.

Anyways, to run this...I'd use Over The Edge.

>>17600808
As a full blown city there should at least be a hospital as well as EMTs as part of the normal staff. I'd imagine if the security force were to have regular patrols, regulation would require that all members be trained in basic first aid and at least a few EMTs on had should anything go particularly bad.

Likewise, any group worth it's shit at least has someone who knows how bandaids and disinfectant works.

>>17600978
I don't see why not. I imagine some people coming to InfiniCon have some kind of fandom or guilty pleasure or something. They may not directly identify themselves as an Anime kid or a Dice Rolling kind of dude, but with the way the city works, a normal will likely find themselves friends with one clique or another. Maybe not full blown gang member, but still, likes one group more than another.

>>17601160
I have no idea.

This will probably be my last reply for a bit. Game is starting to pick up.

Couple things before I go
1 - This isn't a system or a homebrew or anything yet. If anything it is a loose collection of ideas to be used as a setting, maybe.
2 - I don't want to consider myself the law on this thing, but I'm open for ideas, suggestions, interpretations, and so on. However, how I end up using the whole thing, setting, writefaggotry or quest thread is still up to me. Don't feel sad if I don't use your idea
3 - Thank you all again. This is really great stuff and I'm eager to share it with my group and others.

>>17601140

but the problem is someone can be both a fantasy and sci-fi cosplayer and even a larper too.
There are a lot of people who do more than one nerdy things and they are the majority.

So if there is a Fantasy group who could be a member? Anyone who has interest in Fantasy settings? What if only the hardcore Fantasy-Only persons could achieve any meaningful "political carrier" in that group?

I love the idea of someone being a secret undercover agent, going around in costumes of their opposing faction to gather information on them.

I wonder what kind of crazy passwords or secret signals different factions would have to root out intruders like that. Secret agents would have to take care to get every detail of their costume right lest the more hardcore members of the enemy faction notice something off about them, or be on guard for sudden pop quizzes to test their knowledge.. something that only a true fan of the culture/show/game involved would know.

>>17600978
I didn't really know what to expect from Infinicon. Only been to two anime conventions in my life, and that was only because my friends dragged me along. Seemed pretty alright, if you could ignore the stench.

But when I got there, it was obvious that I REALLY wasn't expecting what I saw.

Throngs of people in intricate dress: some practical, most not. Hundreds of people peddling wares. Intricate social dynamics and group hierarchies. Stormtrooper squads. Furry orgies. Private detectives. Hired guards. And here I was, in the middle of it all, without a costume or unnaturally colored wig to call my own.

They call people like me Normals. Being a Normal is the refuge of the hunted or ostracized. When you've been wearing a mask for months, people forget what you look like underneath. There's not as much to do in Infinicon as a Normal, but people will generally leave you alone unless they're peddling their wares.

I was walking around the other day--the last full day I had here--and another Normal ran into me and struck up a conversation. Offered to buy me a drink. I guess that was the point of no return. They say crazy things happen here at Infinicon, and this is how it starts. Offered me a job over a drink at a poorly-lit bar. Calls the group Anonymous. Hard-boiled businesspeople of Infinicon. If there's a job that pays and they don't have a job that directly interferes, these guys do it.

Funny, and here I was about to leave.

>>17601175
Yes, there would be crossover. Like I said, the higher-ups likely wouldn't care about people belonging to or associating with more than one main faction. Those general interests are so broad they're more sections of the city than anything, and are considered "factions" for administrative purposes.

Within the specific factions, it would largely depend on the specifics. For example, the World of Darkness group would have an alliance with the LARP group. Smaller groups like Savage Worlds probably wouldn't care too much if its members dabbled in other groups (neither would most of the individual anime/video game/comic fandoms), but the D&D crowd would likely be super-militant (as soon as you set foot into their territory, you are asked "What edition?". What you say will determine your fate. If you say "I don't know" or "No preference," you'll deal with all of the groups trying to indoctrinate you).

>>17601054
This. I imagine that being a part of the Furry group is like being in the Mafia. You don't tell people if you're one, and if you're not, you certainly don't go into their known hangout spots alone. They've been known to make people disappear.

>>17601230

yep, mostly in eastern europe and mostly with airsoft guns. I've seen more than a few awesome pics from russian stalker larps.
But sadly I was never been on one... I just played on fallout larps from the postapoc setting

>>17601196

I'd imagine that zombies would have nocturnal "cons," to mill about in. Also I could see something like a city-wide game of Zombies VS humans or something that happens once a year. Having it as a festival or a holiday or something.

>>17601286
And here I thought eastern Europe was just good for cheap prostitutes and entertaining accents.

As for weapons. I think it would be cool to have really unconventional shit. Like maybe tasers, and high velocity paintball guns with those mace paintballs, would be like high end shit available for high tier security forces, while thugs would be caring around improvised melee weapons.

I think that with everything in between should be focused on incapacitating individuals or causing alot of pain, but knives, guns, ammunition and conventional weapons are extremely hard to come by. What think OP?

>>17601305

I'm sure the zombies could come up more fun stuff than just a once in a year festival
http://runforyourlives.com/

>>17601377
I like the idea of high-tier security having actual weapons.
However, I'm sure that utility/survival knives wouldn't be too hard to come by, since a lot of the con-goers would likely have them (especially the LARPers). Mace/pepper spray would probably be allowed for general safety.
Things like boffers would likely have to fit regulations (like what they're made out of, how much padding is used) to avoid people wrapping pieces of wood in duct tape and calling it a boffer. Granted, the law enforcement can't stop everything, and people will likely find ways around it.
Firearms would be next to nonexistent, only being carried by police forces. If you get caught with one, you get banned from the con for good and arrested.

>>17601427
Glad you like it.

Do you think that the high end freelance security forces should have access to the mace paintballs and "non lethal" weapons? Or a sponsorship license that allow citizens with no priors to apply to carry conventional "non-lethal" weapons.

Also, what about crafters and what not having neutral guilds with departments that specialize in specific type or themes of costumes or weapons.

Also costumes could have an ingame effect where the more intricate, accurate, and even crafter name recognition raises your social standing?

>>17601427
>Things like boffers would likely have to fit regulations (like what they're made out of, how much padding is used)to avoid people wrapping pieces of wood in duct tape and calling it a boffer. Granted, the law enforcement can't stop everything, and people will likely find ways around it.

it's funny because no matter how safe a boffer or latex weapon is there are always people who see them as something life threatening. And truth to be told if you REALLY want to kill somebody you can do that with even a latex weapon. Well it won't be easy and I think a would greatly prefer a chairleg instead of a latex weapon for an actual fight but then again paddings are alwayys removable one way or another, and if you have a boffer with a wooden core...

Also people will get REALLY creative if it comes to how to hurt another being. Like spray cans are instant flamethrowers or bombs.

>>17598245
You forgot to take into account gun shows. With all the stuff there packing they could take over any other convention.

>>17601499
Well what about during backalley turf wars they unpad their weapons. But if security gets to the scene and catches you with an unpadded weapon, prepare for some serious fines, or some other type of penalty that doesn't remove you from the city, but will noticeably effect you.

>>17601525
And they would have, except that they sold enough weapons to everybody else that the gun show attendees are no longer that much better armed than the other conventionites.

Being an amoral gunrunner may be good for amassing filthy lucre, but not so much if you harbor dreams of conquest.

>>17601534

I'm just saying that we are talking about gamers they will always find loopholes. Of course most of them won't have the courage to use it against the security force but still it's something that better to be prepared if you are part of the security force.

Also, someone with thick enough gambeson and a fully closed and functional STALKER helmet will pretty much doesn't give a fuck about tazers, tear gas, rubber round and things like that, you will have to wrestle him down if you don't want to use deadly force.

>>17601566
From what I was understanding was that the conventions don't really cross over with each other, and if there is an overlap they would fight for territory. So a gun show and it's attendants would have a better chance than say a star trek convention.

>>17601588
I guess batoning his ass might work. I was thinking the security forces were the strongest direct presence followed by freelance merc companies. However bureaucratic red tape and Inficon rules tie them up from operating in full force.

As for the stalker helmet, I can imagine beanbag shotgunning him in the chest or something.

However the idea of Gun show vendors being the sneaky neutral weapon smuggler faction does seem appealing.

>>17601597
I've heard stories from /cgl/ about smaller conventions needing to share the convention center with other shows or a wedding.

There's a particular pic where the bride and groom asked a bunch of people in fursuits to pose with them in a pic.

Not sure if they invited the furries, on second though.

Hey /tg/ what if underground cons would be run by those con's/fans that don't have much of a following anymore or at all?

Like what if you only get prime con/floor-space for your fandom so long as you have the numbers to hold on to it? If you're fandom ever lowers its numbers for any reason beyond a certain point, you lose your con-space due to pressure from the greater numbers of other fandoms or InfiniCon autarchs of the ruling InfiniCouncil deem your fandom too small to deserve floorspace and thus must cede your land rights to other fandoms?

What if those underground cons live not only on the down-low but also on the outskirts of InfiniCon, like in ghettos? Forced to live and subsist on the scraps of Lucasite neckbeards and weeaboo Narutards / Pokemons

Beware the Booster Gangs looking to "recruit" you to the UnderCons!

>>17601499
Well, that's the idea. There are rules and regulations, but people find ways to get around them. There are shady deals and illegal affairs all over the place, and not just with regards to weapons. Not to mention that certain parts of the city would probaby be nicer/more lawful than others (for example, you'd have to be functionally retarded to have an unlicensed weapon in the main administrative section, but some of the back alleys of the fandoms can get pretty hairy). That's likely one reason why medical facilities are so precious.
But you know more about the semantics of boffers and improvised weapons than I do, LARPfriend.

>>17601471
I think the nonlethal weapons like that would only be broken out during riots or utter chaos. Like the average guard would probably only carry a tazer/nightstick at most, but they bust out the big guns once shit goes down.

As for craftsmen/neutral factions like that, they would likely be heavily regulated, and require licenses to make sure their equipment is safe/not illegal. That would likely drive up prices as well, so most con-goers would probably just be in improvised costumes.

The social stigma/boost would go without saying. Going into the tabletop rpgs wearing a Naruto headband will raise some eyebrows and earn some hostilities. Going to a 40k game in a fursuit is suicide.

>>17601646
You sure about that?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ebRrZ_E_1o&feature=share

>>17601697
I'm gonna give that shopkeeper the benefit of the doubt and say he's being civil for the sake of the kids and for business.

At least, I hope so

>>17601631
That's what the gambeson is for. It's technically a thichk clothing that works as padding and could even stop smaller cuts. And it's cheap and relatively easy to make one that's why I said that instead of some kind of metal armor. Put on a chanimail too and things will be interesting.
The guy will be far from invincible but the security force has to go there and be very personal with him.

But now I'm realizing that the security force probably has some reenactors at hand too with proper armors and actual fighting skills.

I'm now thinking about SWAT knights...

>>17601731
Is that the hit new show on Fox coming this October?

I really like the idea but I'm curious if you were to let say implement this for a campaign, what ranged weapons would be available that isn't a security mace paintball. In fact, what ranged weapons are even allowed at larps and can be made to hurt people?

>>17601697
Yes, but this isn't some department store in the mall filled with middle schoolers, this is INFINICON, and he's surrounded by a bunch of Neckbears with low to medium voltage Powerfists and Bolters that shoot paintballs and rubber bullets hopped up on adrenaline, drugs bought from the Ravers, and faith in the God Emperor.

This is an amazing thread/idea, you're a good man OP/contributors.

I'd imagine that the city is huge, but absolutely packed to the brim due to the number of fandoms that need to stake territory.

It'd be a complete mishmash of different timezones as well.

All of the call of cthulhu and Baccano! guys would be living in a jazz age prohibition, while the 40k and sci fags are living in futuristic buildings and shit.

The turf wars here would be glorious.

If we could get a writefag on this, it would make a great week even better.

>mfw

>>17601760
>>17601731
This reminds me...

Playing a security guard would be this game's equivalent of a paladin. The stakes are high, as are the prerequisites and training, but they have a lot of power. If you "fall," it means you fucked up and got fired.

>>17601697
That...was...odd.

>>17601772
But what if you're a "loose cannon cop who doesn't play by the rules."

As a furry, what about the ones who reject the orgies and the disgusting nature of the average furry? It'd probably be less like a zombie and more like being a drow - universally despised in the main Con areas, but unable or unwilling to return home, creating new enclaves outside of the Furry Zone where they don't have to put up with the horrible sights and goddamn drama all the time.

>>17601796
Repent for your wretched lifestyle and turn your life to Space Jesus.

Also hunt your own kind with unfiltered hatred.

>>17601796
I actually thought about this. The "normal" furries (or as close to it as you can get in a place like this) are the low-ranking ones, the ones who are rejected by the powerful alphas for not "embracing their culture". They probably mingle on the outskirts of furry society, but are the only ones who can interact with the rest of the con-goers. Even then they're viewed with suspicion and stigma, but at least have a chance to prove themselves.
They're a group of outcasts within a group of outcasts, not really home in either environment. They create their own small groups and societies, but live in squalor compared to the decadence and hedonism of the more militant members.

>>17601829
Yeah Space Jesus can go fuck himself too. I've seen so much WH40K that I'm sick of it.

Unless we're talking Imperial Guard, and those guys are usually cool.

>>17601772

>Playing a security guard would be this game's equivalent of JUDGE DREDD. The stakes are high, as are the prerequisites and training, but they have a lot of power. If you "fall," it means you fucked up and got fired.

Fixt that for you anon.

Given the whole "hygiene" issue, bet there's public baths of some sort. Those and the bars are neutral ground.

There'd definitely be a /ck/-aligned district somewhere, especially given the international contingent.

And the nerdiest possible mass transit system. I'm thinking a monorail loop line and gondolas for crosstown.

>>17601796
They'd be the eta/dalits of Infinicon. And banned from going within a half-mile of the zoo or aquarium.

>>17601916
>public baths

They're divided by sex, and known members of the anime factions have to use their own special baths, lest they try to reenact their favorite hot-springs scenes on other unsuspecting con-goers.

>>17601760
What show?

And about the ranged weapons.
In fantasy larps there are nothing serious. The bows and crossbows are restricted in a way that they have a max drawing strength that is allowed. That varies a bit but usually somewhere around 20-30 pounds. Plus they use special larp safe arrows/bolts.
Now to change the arrow/bolt into an unsafe but because of the low draw strength they will be pretty weak you could even dodge them from 10 meters. On the other hand things like this could still cause serious eye injury.

Now the paintball and airsoft things are a little more interesting/dangerous
Paintball on it's own considered more safe but IIRC you need face protection there too. Those little balls won't cause any serious damage but they will hurt like hell. but if you change the paint to something else like pepper spray/acid/gas oil/other interesting chemicals, now that's where the fun starts.
Airsoft guns fires little plastic spheres, somewhere around 6mm in diameter and weighting less then a gramm , somewhere around 0,12-0,25 depends on the actual type of the BB.
These things could pretty easily shoot out an eye or a theeth. Seen pictures of more serious things and been shot at point blank range with "weaker" stuff. That's why eye protection is mandatory and face protection too in Close Quarter Combats.

Now I don't know about paintball guns (I think they have a similar concept as the airsoft guns) but the airsoft guns could be teched up to shoot the BBs faster and that means they will hit harder and could cause bleeding (but not deep) wounds easily even at longer ranges. It's not that hard to upgrade one if you know a little about electronics and have the proper parts.
So against unarmed opponents these could be dangerous too, but still far from deadly

>But if security gets to the scene and catches you with an unpadded weapon, prepare for some serious fines, or some other type of penalty that doesn't remove you from the city, but will noticeably effect you.
Warning stamps with semi-permanent ink. You get one on the back of a hand for each infraction and the ink can take up to a week to come off (more or less depending on your bathing habits and abilities).
If you have both hands marked and would receive another, you either get sent to con-jail/con-community-service or booted out for good.

>>17601846
You can be drafted into an abhuman regiment, but only if you're willing to fight your own kind.

>>17602007
BAH! fuck public baths and gender restrictions!
We will build our own bathhouses!

>>17602071
Whatever bro. When that anime fangirl hambeast keeps trying to grope you because it's "kawaii", don't complain, and don't say I didn't warn you.

>>17602144
let her try!

Also when I said "our own bathhouses" I meant larper ones. We are good at building things like that, goes with the hobby.

>>17602007
Well, most of them. There's a few mixed ones, and one or two "anime-legal, proceed at own risk" ones.

Actually bringing faction shit into any of the non-anime-OK bathhouses is frowned upon, though. You leave that in the locker with your costume.

Furries tend to not use them, though, because most of them prefer that nobody know what the person under the fursuit looks like.

>>17602164
Hey man, if you think you can take her, go for it. But I've read about tons of weeaboo horror stories, the most mild ones involving being tackled by 300 lb girls, and the worst ones involving permanent injuries and murder attempts.

I have this image in my head of the cosplayers really starting to take on their characters.

The Team Fortress 2 cosplayers would modify their props to be lethal, the Spies actually being stealthy and a source of information.

Trekkies would form independent groups based upon which series they're in. The Shatner's would have nightly karaoke battles to determine who the true captain is.

Anime cosplayers would act like their characters; ranging from benign K-ON music festivals, to cells of Gurren Lagaan squads rebelling against anything in the way of their manliness.

Crime wouldn't be too rampant because of the numerous Batmen patrolling the city nightly. This also brings in the chance for some real insanity when someone's The Joker.

Space Marines would roam the streets, slaughtering furries with their now lethal 'weapons'.

Oh god...the furries...

>>17602208
Good thinking. Then we will need a few reenactors to guard our borders... If they are not too busy

>>17602216
And at some point, the line blurs. What was certain and set in stone becomes...less so. Muddled in the quagmire of human dream and stench. The closer they try to bring things to fictional accuracy, the more the fiction wants to become accurate to reality. The more it bleeds in. The fiction slowly bleeds into reality.

Yes?

>Bring in nerf guns
>put sharp things in the ends of the rounds
>modify them so they fire using compressed air

>>17602216

What if we EXALTED up this shit? Made it so anyone who enters InfiniCon City would start as a scrub fanboi with not many powers then as they grew in stature in the city and their fandom, they would slowly gain more new powers until they manifest as the embodiment of their fandom and their own geekiness.

Imagine /tg/

>>17602306
The lines blur more and more until we have Narutard's jumping around like bouncy balls and Batmen that have grappling hooks and are some of the most elite fighters in the city?

I'm okay with this.

>>17602330
I'm okay with this.

Oh sweet merciful crap I have a dream about a setting like this every few months

Soon as we start im rolling up a Lolita Crossplayer Face/Diplomancer who works across the boarder as a Librarian for the DC comic factions

>>17602330
I don't want to imagine it because if I do then I will want it to be real...
Or at least a massive rpg game of some sort...

>>17601697
Space Marines. So easy a Furry can play them.

>>17602330
This works right up until you realize that it would apply to the actual Exalted fans. And with 2.5 in the pipeline, there won't be crippling mechanical defects that prevent them from efficiently raping the rest of Infinicon to death with their Charmsets.

>>17602393
Both methods work well together. The city is an impossibly dense area of concentrated dreams and fiction. Anything is possible, if enough people believe in you. Anything.

Of course, the second you leave the boundary of the con's Fiction to Reality effect, you turn back into the pasty faced obese unlikable fuckawit that you are, so there's balance. In the con, you can be god, but try to use your godlike power to take over the world and shit? Nope, you get gunned down by the army in 2 seconds flat.

Of course, no one said that you couldn't expand the convention. Makes its area of effect grow. Expand. Multiply. Until the world is completely conventionalized. And then, all will be lost.

Nice little endgame scenario and a good way to ensure that there's reasons for the security guards hired from the outside all are watching you to make sure no one is planning any forbidden con-expansion rituals and shit.

Hell, the thing about you getting more people to like you makes you more powerful even makes it so the convention people can't overpower the fiction's characters! If you convention character is a demigod, the actual character you're inevitably ripping off is GOD.

Oh my fucking god if this thread isn't archived or at least documented on the wiki it fucking should be.

>>17602488

I think we should totally work out in depth this setting idea and god forbid maybe launch some kind of quest or bigger web based game on it.
And then everyone could play himself/herself...

Personally? I'm looking forward to the Dr. Who gangs.

Roving bands of old Tom Bakers wandering around being delightly. Groups of David Tennants getting in wacky shenanigans. A large smattering of Matt Smith's trying to get people to like their fezzes or stetsons.

I also like to think their would only be three William Hartnetts who stay in one cafe at the same booth and are angry, grouchy wise men.

>>17602530
That would be amazing. I have always wanted to LARP but there has never been anything accessible, I have always wanted to go to a CON but no money, this would be the best of all worlds

>>17602530
OH SHIT SON WE'VE GONE FULL RECURSION HAVEN'T WE?

>>17602536
>I also like to think their would only be three William Hartnetts who stay in one cafe at the same booth and are angry, grouchy wise men.

And yet when shit starts to get real, those three guys all get up, grunt and take charge without even trying. Being the first does have its benefits; you ARE the Doctor after all!

>>17602570

I like the cut of your jib.

>>17602536
The way I'm seeing it, the Dr. Whos aren't organized at all.

>>17602579
Why thank you. Its only logical. After all, if it wasnt for the William Hartnetts, you would not have Doctors 2 through 11. Therefore, all the Doctors are by-products of William Hartnett's fame, making it so that the First Doctor, in terms of fandom power, is best Doctor.

Simple logic, no?

>>17602449

Maybe if we made a system of generating power points for the con-ners to use and gain powers with kinda like Unknown Armies where if you act/play like your chosen fandom enough you gain some sort of Tass. The more of this Tass you have the more powers you can create in the magic of InfiniCon.

There are levels of tass. Minor, Significant, and Major. Each granting fandom specific powers but being harder to obtain and maintain the more you are into your fandom.

That should limit and balance anyone fandom from ubermensching it up over the others at anytime. Of course as a previous anon said this tass should be worthless outside of the confines of InfiniCon.

What do you think /tg/?

>>17602488

Relax dude, I archived it already.

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/17597062/

Go vote it up if you will, though.

>>17602536
>Hartnell

>>17602614

I would more like it if it was a low magic thing that only the really hardcore people would have some supernatural abilities. Of course there could be other benefits than supernatural ones

>>17602614
I think that more or less is what I was getting at. Its not so much the fandom's individual power, so to speak, but the power you get over your fandom that lets you tap into that power. You don't start out being able to actually use all that charm shit or throw nukes with your ass or be Gundam. You start small and you work, in your fandom or in the convention (to preserve some level of balance if this gets turned into a game, as anyone who wants to be a generic fandom/multi-fandom dude gets a chance to be as powerful as a single fandom dude by being well known to the con overall) to get power.

Even then, I don't think that one person should be as strong as the stronger folk in their canon. You exalt Canon through Fandom, therefore it is an eternal goal that you can just almost reach but never quite obtain. An ever distant utopia, to use a phrase from fucking Crazy Nasu.

You know what I'm saying?

>>17602660

How about this, getting really REALLY deep in your fandom or character gives you special abilities related to that fandom, but you sacrifice mobility in terms of how you deal with other groups of nerds and the more entrenched you become in the political maneuvering of the group you're associated with.

So staying independent allows you the freedom to move around and not be beholden to a particular group's whims, but tying yourself strongly to a fandom gives you the perks to actually fight on their behalf through taking on characteristics of the fiction that you emulate.

Does that sound like a reasonable trade-off?

>>17602583
Not usually, I'd say. I assume they'd be running around the city solving small problems in grandiose ways that are usually quite entertaining. No one bothers to stop them because they generally do help and they keep the Daleks and Cybermen busy.

>>17602610
Perfectly agreeable, I'd say.

>>17602614
I see it as being a FATE system, but that may just be my obsession with the Dresden Files RPG.

>>17602640
Apologies, I'm pretty baked.

If InfiniCon is the official nomenclature of this fantasy city-state then like any slang name for any big city (ex. Chi-town, Big Apple or Sin City) I propose we unofficially call InfiniCon:

Pop City or Con-Town.

Any other suggestions?

Tales from Pop City: Walk down the right back alley in Pop City and you can find anything.

>>17602696
Makes sense to me. The deeper you are in a fandom, the more you would be a part of it, for better or worse. And considering how violent fandoms are to one another/itself, this has benefists and drawbacks.

>>17602714
The Bronies...

OH JESUS FUCK, THE BRONIES!

>>17602696

It's so late here that it's actually early so at the moment nothing seems like reasonable to me.

On the other hand I think what you saying is that while someone get's more and more into his character the character gets more and more into him too.

But the problem as I see that gaining the characters power will make most of the people go for ridiculously overpowered characters from the overpowered settings

>>17602751
Don't worry, they're on a lower rung than even the Furries. They couldn't get any power because NO ONE wants them.

I got an idea for the merc/security teams... Each of them have their own 'symbol'. And this helps because each of them usually have multiple areas to cover, and thus, different sets of costumes. Their symbols are the only thing identifying them from the usual convention rabble.
So for example, there's Blackgate Security, and they have teams in all areas. When a team patrols the Naruto area, they'll wear ninja outfits with the Blackgate symbol on their hedbands. On a medieval LARP area, they appear as knights with the Blackgate symbol. On a Star Trek area, they wear Stormtrooper armor, but with the Blackgate symbol instead of the Empire's.

Makes it more interesting when your player comes to work for Blackgate. Maybe there'll be friction between the different merc/sec companies.

>>17602763
But they have secret powers of their owns. Powers of love and friendship.

Here's an odd question I just thought of-
What about cosplayers of fanworks?
Like Shinji from Shinji & 40k or Double K Kamina?

>>17602767
Sorry, I meant Star Wars, my mind slipped. Gotta get lunch.

MJOLNIR!

>>17602780
The powers of HERESY! *BLAM*

>>17602789
I suppose those ones would have their own niche, like everything else in the con. As risky as it is to say, but the fanworks that reach enough of a point to actually have its own fandom, seperate from the parent fandom(s), would be judged on its own merits as a unique fandom.

Besides, everyone's ripped off everyone, so we're all fanfiction of two guys who banged rocks together!

>>17602767

what about the members of the BlackGate SecForc? I would like to imagine that every fanbase could give members to it so they could have all WH40k patrols or even mixed ones with 2 Star Wars stromtrooper, 1 reenactor guy and 1 gundam guy, etc.
And it would be somehow more interesting if they would keep their original costumes and go to other territories in it. Of course BlackGate realize that this is not a good idea every time so the members of each patrol group picked in a way to don't to much harm (imagine if a furry BlackGate would go to 40k territorry...)

>Get quest to find The Batman
>mfw everyone is The Batman

>>17602877

OMG can you imagine COD MW fanboi's in Blackgate SecForce? They might not be able to do much compared to a Space Marine or Jedi Knight but every COD MW fanboi has one power that all /v/ will want on entering InfiniCon.

Respawn power. O_o

>>17602767
>>17602877

I would think that some of the fandom folks would be part of the peace keeping force.

I mean, we do have lawyers already...

>>17602877
>And it would be somehow more interesting if they would keep their original costumes and go to other territories in it. Of course BlackGate realize that this is not a good idea every time so the members of each patrol group picked in a way to don't to much harm (imagine if a furry BlackGate would go to 40k territorry...)

...and this is where the Player Characters are.

>>17602761

The tradeoff I'm proposing is personal independence vs. power drawn from the series/game/whatever you emulate.

If you actually want to get that power, you'll need to be WHOLLY devoted to the faction, for better or worse. And that kind of dedication and not many people will be able to pull off, as it'll require being heavily invested to climbing the hierarchy of your specific subgroup and currying favor with them. And it will also determine how you interact with other groups, or can even interact with them on a neutral level at all.

>>17602907

what have we done?

>>17602894

Bat Inc.?

>>17602913

I would play the shit out of this campaign.

Also, just gonna put this right here.

>>17602911
...and now we have Law and Order: Infinicon.

Its a reality show filmed live in Infinicon. The cases are real, the situations are real, the people.....well....

>>17602789
>>17602837

There also could be a mechanic where the larger the faction the more power its members can draw. Sort of like how gods in DnD work, the more followers they have, the more powerful abilities they can dole out to those followers. The more people know of a series or character and attempt to integrate themselves into it, the more powerful it gets.

>>17602927
Made the only security force that can actually handle long term con-watching? I mean, shit, you'd have to have respawn power just to get through the Magicka fandom zones!

>>17602936

>>17602924

what about infighting and political maneuvering?
for example the WoD Vampire faction would pretty much based on that.
If they constantly backstabbing each other then does that they are dedicated to the group?

What sort of system do you think would work best for this?

Shadowrun seams plausible, but I'm not too well-versed in systems.

>>17602980
Diplomacy players.
Oh no.

>>17601054

*Okay Brian, who is your character?
-Well, I'm kinda of like an Inquisitor from the 40k universe. I'm slightly successful but I'm still young and new to the organization, or at least as far as the group of people I'm LARP'ing with are concerned.
*So an Interrogator, that's normally the title given to junior Inquisitors.
-Yeah, I figured that I could work for the security force in some fashion?
*Okay, that's cool. What's your character, Gabriela?
+I want to be a Sphess Mahreen!
*Oh god, really?
+Yeah, can I?
*Well seeing as how for this game you're not really, at least game mechanics wise, who your character is portraying, that's fine. But you have to justify why you'd be... wait, what am I saying, you're at a con.
+Sweet! I'm a Blood Raven sergeant, purveyor of justice, and receiver of many fine 'gifts.' My cardboard armor is the best at the con, I even have glow-ey LED lights in the helmet that make the lenses look really creepy and terrifying.
*Well then, this oughta be interesting...

>>17602997

I don't think that there is a system good enough for this...

>>17602924
So it's basically Archetypes in Unknown Armies. The better and more well known your Superman cosplay is, for example, the stronger you become, eventually being able to leap great distances, move quickly, etc. You never become AS powerful as Superman, but you gain some above-human powers at the highest level. Of course, the higher you go, the less wiggle room you have. Thus, if someone can make something that reasonably looks like Kryptonite, you'd have to act as if it was killing you or you'd break character and lose your abilities.

It's a beautiful day in the city of Infinity City, the sun is shining, the sky is clear, the temperature is temperate, and there is a distinct lack of older, hairy men dressed in Sailor Moon outfits. A great day by all accounts. Suddenly, Inquisitor... (*Really, that's your name? //sigh\\ Okay...) Nrohnesie's 'vox communicator' chirps.

Unknown: "This is Security Patrol Alpha-Lima-Niner requesting immediate reinforcement at the Triple Decker, Coordinates Two-Three^@#$"

It sounds as though whoever the security guard was that was broadcasting the S.O.S. died with a horrible scream, and much howling and baying can be heard in the background.

-"Well shit, that doesn't sound good"
+"Really bro? What's wrong?"
*Gabby, you're a Sphess Mahreen, you don't say things like 'bro.'
+Nuh uh, I'm totally sure I heard a Blood Raven say 'bro' in one of the video games
*Uh... right. Okay

-Anyway... "It sounds as though a security patrol has gotten into a major scuffle with some of the Con-goers, Sire. We must hurry to aide them. I feel our particular talents will be of use here, as I suspect the forces of Chaos are behind this dastardly attack!"
+"Indeed, bro, let us make haste to your speeder"
*//sighs heavily\\

>>17602997
A system heavy on inter-personal and inter-political interactions as well as one that supports power and shit seems logical. It all depends on how you want to play it.

Want happy fun con adventures? Go right ahead!
Want to drag yourself to the top of the pack in your fandom? Be my guest, you manipulative bastard!
Want to sulk through the back tunnels and forgotten realms of the con for priceless treasure? Enjoy your survival, you stalker wannabe!

Infinicon has it all! Infinicon IS it all!

You arrive on the scene of the attack. The Triple Decker, as you already know, is the city's most famous local burger joints. It is a giant three story glass building that looms over the local park like a behemoth. Unfortunately this area has fallen under a heavy furry presence, which has put a heavy dent in its business. Nrohnesie knows that several complaints have been lodged against the loitering good-for-nothings.
-Well that would explain the weird sounds we heard over the 'vox'
+Sweet, furry crushing time.
The scene before you is grisly, but the patrol (which consists of seven men total) seems to have suffered only minor injuries, mostly scratches and some biting, typical Furry attack patterns. You manage to resuscitate one of the patrolmen from unconsciousness. He's a teenager, roughly 17 or 18 years old dressed like the rest of the patrol in an actually well done replica of Stormtrooper armor. "It was terrible," he exlaims, "We were just doin' a routine passby and they leapt on us from the rooftops! Oh god, they grabbed Jimmy and drug him away. Oh god, the horror!" He then begins jibbering and making small yiff noises to himself.

-"Clearly this man needs to be purged, Chaos has taken too deep of a hold on his mind."
+"Whoa, bro, can't we think about this a little longer. He probably just needs a Mt. Dew."
-"Hrm, I suppose we could remand him to the infirmary, but I doubt this man is beyond the help of any medicae."
*Gabby, you notice that one of the Triple Decker employees is staring at you with a gaping expression from the entrance door of the restaurant.
+"Hail, Imperial citizen. What can you tell me about this attack?"
*"Uh, well, it was a bunch of furries. Not much to tell. They went thataway."
+"Thank you, citizen!" I slap him a hi-five.
*He tells you that your armor is pretty bitchin'.
+I love this city already

Nrohnesie is able to quickly track the path of the furry brigands, as they've made no attempt to disguise the almost riotous way they progressed through the alleyways of Infinity City. The trail goes cold at a small square that opens up into a small grouping of anime and cosplay stores. You see two furries, one about 10% with a tail and a hairband with cat ears who is clearly an initiate, and another in full-on Sonic cosplay outfit.
+Clearly there's only one thing to do here. I open fire with my 'bolter.'
*Okay, roll to hit
-Whoa whoa whoa, time out. What if she kills them or incapacitates them?
*Well clearly you're an Inquisitorial member with a Sphess Mahreen sidekick. This kind of shit happens all the time in Infinity City.
-Wait, so that means I can go around beating up furries any time I want?
*Yeah.
-That's so... cool.
+So yeah, I scored a critical hit, what happens?
*Well your 'bolter, probably a modified Nerf CS-6, rattles of a few darts and pegs the 10%'er right in the face. She screams in surprise and swats at the darts lodged on her cheeks. The guy in the Sonic outfit takes off like a bat out of hell.
-Oh that's so not gonna happen. I run him down and tackle him.
*Okay, we'll handle that in a second. Meanwhile the girl in the catears charges Gabby and claws at her cardboard armor with a set of extra strong plastic cat claws. She opens up some gouges on Gabby's armor, but it's purely superficial damage.

+Oh this bitch is so gonna get fucked for messing up my armor. I pick her up with one hand and fling her. //rolls a dice\\
*Okay, your roll looks good enough. She slowly starts to pick herself up but has clearly not realized what kind of people she's up against, there's clearly fear in her eyes.
+I grab my Nerfhammer!
*Wait, what?
+Yeah, it's a boffer replica.
*Wow, okay. Seems good, what do you do?
+I'm gonna beat this bitch senseless for ruining my pristine TDA!
*Lolwhut, now you're a terminator?
+Duh, like there's any other kind of Sphess Mahreen...
*Wow, when I said this was gonna be a loose freeform, I didn't know you guys would be this wild.
-Well to be fair, you didn't give us many rules to go by. Wait till you see what I have...

>>17603049
I say we create a system for this.

Since guns are rare, so combat would be realistic and painful. Charisma could be split a lot (leadership, attractiveness, intimidation, con, etc.), and hygiene could be a major factor.

*Okay, anyway, Gabby the Terminator beats a poor, misguided girl unconscious with a boffer hammer. Moving on, Nrohnesie manages to chase down the Sonic wannabe.
-Cool, I pull out my twin 'bolt pistols,' air soft guns no Nerf shit, and fire off both full clips at his head.
+Hey, Nerf guns aren't shit. I'm so gonna peg you when we get home.
*Heh, you fire wildly while running, most of your shots going wild, but a few of them hit home. Sonic turns around and tries to hit you, but he misses.
-I punch him... BOOYAH, I got a crit, I punch him in the face!
*Nice job, you hear a muffled yell as he's knocked on his ass. He feebly tries to kick out at you, but he's about as strong as baby. You'd figure this guy might be in his young teenage years given his height, but it's kinda distorted by the huge head.
-I rip the head off the costume by force and scream into his face, "Where's the missing member of that patrol you bastards kidnapped?!"
*The kid is obviously distraught, but refuses to tell you anything. He hocks a loogey and spits in your face. There are several people around looking kind of concerned about what you're doing.
-Can I have a badge or something? Like the Rosette?
*Sure, you're a part-time freelancer for the Security force so I'd say you're wearing one, probably with an Inquisitorial Rosette attached to it, bonus cosplay points.
-Cool, I flash the badge to the bystanders and go back to interrogating the kid.
*He's clearly not gonna break, he tries to struggle out of your grip, but you're too strong for him.

And that's where we're gonna call it for now, I gotta go to class in a bit.
+Cool deal bro. This is a sweet campaign setting. Where'd you find it?
*You would not believe some of the awesome shit you read on /tg/ sometimes...

>>17602942

This system could work too in addition to whats already been suggested aside from gaining power points to spend for your fandom.

Although to add more variety to it, the farther and longer away from your fandom's area of influence you are, the weaker you will become. You start to lose powers after awhile starting with your strongest power until you are as weak as when you started out as a "newb".

This means that anyone no matter how powerful who gains power from their respective fandom would be capped in some ways when entering neutral zones against other fandoms. This might also bring an interesting side-effect to the political climate in InfiniCon.

Moar Turf Wars. When a fandom loses their place in the heirarchy of InfiniCon's cut-throat Pop culture politics and is banished to the dark oblivion that is the UnderCons. Their Con-space is up for auction and that's when the other fandoms go to war with each other over vital parsecs of con-space. For more resources and influence for their respective fandoms.

>>17603052
>*He tells you that your armor is pretty bitchin'.
>+I love this city already

Maybe it's just the sleep deprivation that speak from me but we need a drawfag for this

I'm rolling up The Question.

Here's thirty-pages on how the Narutards are in bed with the Trekkies and Star Wars nerds. They're planning on using the furries as a blood sacrifice to make the bounds of the city grow.

I don't have a problem with this, it just makes the web grow bigger and thus I'm happier there's more to investigate.

I just thought you should know.

>>17603080

I'm imagining hygiene as being something like a corruption stat. Or something similar to how going deeper into your fandom increases power at the expense of individual freedom.

The longer you get engrossed in your fandom or character, and thus go without cleaning up, the more you lose touch with reality and your own identity.

>>17603129
You know, there may have been a point were I cared, but I really don't at this point. All that matters is the continuation of the game. IT. NEVER. DIES.

I'm in love with where this has gone. /tg/.. I wasn't sure this idea would click with you, but you've surpassed all expectations.

I feel like the father who taught his son how to ride a bike, left, and came back to find his son building a working space shuttle in the back yard.

I like this idea of InfiniCon attendees growing to embody their fandom and attaining a bit of its power as they get deeper in. The supernatural, near-fanfictiony, reality bendy element may scare a few folks off, but I suppose we can always have it as an optional element for gameplay for those who would rather run as lightly surreal noir detective horror story rather than a street level supers game with more costumes.

All of that said, the most intimidating aspect of this setting, from a GM's standpoint, is the near encyclopedic knowledge of all fandoms and series that would you need to have to really run a full, in-depth game with all the political intrigued and behaviors and shit.

>>17603080
Immersion could be another factor. People like vendors who wear no costume and have no real fandom would have low immersion, while higher immersion is for people that are constantly in the role. Higher immersion could add bonuses to interactions with people in the same fandom and also give bonuses according to the fandom (high imm in naruto and you could be a tad better at martial arts, simply because you believe you are truly part of it). However, imm could be bad when talking to people with low imm, or you could just become extremely wrapped up in your fandom-fantasy.

>>17603129
The Doctor would be very disapointed in you, Stoned Anon.

And then Roarschach punches you in the face.

>>17603144
Solution: play it AT CONS.

Better yet, play it online, so you have all of the thousands of fan wikis at your beck and call.

>>17603107

The Undercon doesn't have as clear of boundaries as the rest of InfiniCon, so the denizens there have power no matter where they are, and instead are strongest in concentrations. Being in the Undercon is like being in the Shadowlands in L5R (no Void restoration, limited healing, no full rests, and you have to constantly roll for taint).

>>17603107

Now that sounds like a good idea. The longer a certain faction controls a specific area, the more the area warps to take on characteristics of the setting their series uses.

Not just aesthetically, everything works on different laws that are specific to the controlling group's emulated setting. Which means that trying to pick fights deep within enemy territory is likely to go very badly, unless you know how to twist those rules around for your advantage.

>That one Guts cosplayer finds his way into the furry zone

Only death shall know peace.

>>17603144
Awww, shucks OP! I (>>17602306)
am glad to have been around to nudge the ideas of my fellow anons towards the glory we are now making! Fiction-eality! Whoooooo!

Also, your metaphor is best metaphor. Space shuttle indeed!

>>17603156

Maybe a forum system with a fuckton of players so they can interract with each other like in an mmorpg. But it has too many pitfalls...


Also Infinity City will need laws and I think damaging a costume will be one of the more serious crimes...

>>17603167
So the deeper into a faction territory you are, the more powerful those modded nerf guns get, whereas in the neutral territories, everything works normally?

>>17603151
I also play Magic the Gathering.

I cross many boundaries.

>>17603181

What doesn't kill him just makes him angrier, what does kill him just makes him angrier. Really it doesn't end well for any body.

>>17603199
Hrum. You cross boundaries? Or do boundaries cross you?

In this cesspool, keep track or loose everything.

Wait...so how will crossovers be handled? How far can they span? Are they a separate section? Or are they the result of friendly interaction between fandoms? What is the penalty for Mary Sue-ism?

>>17603181

Or he finds a a level -10 Guts cosplayer know as shit tier

>>17603222

It's free territory here, no penalties for mary-sues or being a social retard besides the scorn of your peers (or their admiration, if you hang with cretins)

>>17603181

As awesome as Guts is, in this case he would A.) be in enemy controlled-territory, B.) alone, and C.) belong to a smaller fandom, so he wouldn't exactly be an unstoppable juggernaut.

However, if he would come across a furry outside of that territory, yeah, it'd be mincemeat.

So the stats could just be STR (melee and general muscular strength), AGL (movement and firearms), WILL(mental endurance, pain, etc.), BOD (bodily functions/endurance/despise resistance/etc.), IMM (immersion, explained prior), and INT (smarts, logic, and knowlage). Those could be the physical stuff. Social traits could be LEAD (leadership, for generally commanding others), ATR (attractiveness, used for seduction and general on-sight judgement), Charisma, which is general body language and speech, and finally CON, used for trickery and deception.

>>17603181
I wonder if Guts would get along with the Space marine faction?

I mean sure, there would probably be dozens of people dressed up like him, then there would be that one guy with biceps the size of your torso wearing well made Berserker armor with something large to substitute for the Dragonslayer. That one guy would just kind of wander around looking for that one Guy Dressed up as a really good Griffith, smacking the shit out of whatever abominations that are in his way.

>>17603197
What if the costumes start warping to be more like the real thing? Cardboard Speesh Mureen armor is suddenly as tough and durable as the real thing.

>>17603222

no anon, the whole CITY is the crossover

>>17603253

18 in immersion, and then flat 3's across the board.

Lets do this motherfuckers.

>>17603275

Then you'd be unstoppable on your home turf, and not very good anywhere else.

>>17603271

I see a way to break the system.

Create a really brief comic that only has one character, and dress up as him. Give him ridiculous powers in the comic.

"I'm the Winner. I win things. My winning is maximum"

>>17603253

Immersion should be something more like Level rather than a stat. Otherwise my 300-pound neckbeard who really is into the Touhou fandom just metamorphosed into Yukari at creation.

>>17603253
we should really work this out into a game with a little PDF handbook. its cool seeing how far this project went

>>17603291
I see what you mean.

I mean if I went as eV, I'd be able to blow up space stations the size of the moon with my brain within two days, who even knows after that?

Of course, I'd have to cross-dress, but hey, moon-destroying!

>>17603291
But your power is based upon the number of people in your fandom to some extent.

So, you could be awesome at your booth where you try to sling your comic. But that's about it.

It'd be a pretty sweet booth for you though.

>>17603291

That's why I suggested this: >>17602942

Something of a Reputation or Recognizability stat for your faction.

Ok something popped into my head while thinking about this setting and the possible distribution of special abilities.Imagine playing yourself in this setting.Its easy enough to do offhand and put yourself in some awesome costume have a good time etc. but given a few minutes you will probably start thinking about ALL the stuff your into and it gets more complicated

The more I thought about myself I realized im heavily into

DC Comics
D&D 3.5
One Piece
Capcom Fighting games
Farscape

and I could see myself hanging with any single faction even before I get into secondary things like DBZ [We all used to love it]

Basically as much as id love to run around all day dressed as Desu sooner or later im gonna wanna run a Spelljammer game or get into a 4 hour discussion on why Amazons Attack sucked but not as bad as Civil War

>>17603298
Good point. Well, someone may want to role-play an oblivious citizen. Maybe IMM couldn't surpass level*2 or something?

Or the consequences of such a high IMM would make you a social outcast to everyone else. Even with your powers, you can't do much.

>>17603311

"There is a nine square foot square in the middle of the main plaza that is eternally engulfed in a pillar of flaming diamonds, titties and sour gummy worms. We think there might be a guy sitting in it."

>>17603318
Faction stats and reputation would be something that would be gained steadily and among a fandom/faction as a group rather than set at the beginning.

>>17603320

Right, so you'd be on good terms with a whole bunch of different factions and be able to move more freely about the convention, and have more connections to make use of.

But there are some people that are really obsessed with one particular fandom or subculture, so they'll have really high immersion regarding that faction.

So you're more versatile and mobile, and have a wider range of knowledge that you can apply in different areas of the convention, but the more immersed fan will have more power in a specific faction, but will be brought down to normal elsewhere.

>>17603167
Or unless you're a munchkin who picks a character known for reality-hopping.

Which is another reason why the Doctor Who faction would be terrifyingly powerful.

...how long before the first kaiju attack?

>>17603354
Maybe IMM could be spread out a bit, among factions?

The two con security guards brought me into the room, spartan, with only two chairs and a table with a projector. One chair was empty. On the other sat a man in his 40s, in the same uniform as my two handlers but much more elaborate, with a 3-star badge on his shoulder. He looked at me as I was walked into the room.
"Colonel Lambert. How do you do, Mr. Naszgul67?" he asked.
"I'd be better if you took these cuffs off of me."
Lambert motioned to the goons, who unlocked my restraints. He made a second, sharper motion, swinging his hand, and the two guards turned and walked out, closing the door behind them.
"Come, sit. I have a proposal for you, concerning not only the length of your sentence, but of the entire InfiniCon." He tapped the chair.
"I prefer to stand, and I'd prefer it even more if you'd cut to the chase."
"Very well." Lambert pulled a remote out of his uniform. The projector whirred to life, diplaying a map of the con on the far wall. I moved to get a better view.
"As Deputy Director of Convention Security, it's my job to make sure our entire staff is contributing to the safe and fun nature of Infinicon."
I couldn't suppress a laugh. "Tell that to the psychos roaming the streets 24/7."
"We would if we could, Mr. Naszgul, but our efforts are hampered by our small, poorly trained staff of volunteers, some of whom abuse their power to an incredible degree. Like this man." He clicked another button, and a picture of a portly man well into his 30s, quite hairy, greasy and sweaty and wearing a t-shirt 3 sizes too small with a picture of an anime catgirl appeared.

My sanity could not handle such a setting.
The Furries, and the Shemales, and the Furry Shemales, and the brainwashed Weeaboos that keep saying "Nya" in a really annoying voice, and the Furry Shemale Weeaboos that keep saying "Murr" in a really annoying voice.
I need as many Molotovs as I can carry, and a gun with some .45 brain bleach to clear my mind of the horror when I run out of Molotovs.

"This is former Colonel Kurtz. He and his squad were sent into the Old District on what should have been a near suicide mission, where they soon went radio silent. From the spotty reports we've gotten, he appears to have set up shop at the top floor of the Constellation Inn, commanding groups of fandoms popular in the 70s and 80s but nearly dead since in his own little set-piece world." Another press, and a map came up with the Constellation circled in red marker.
"And what do you want me to do about it," I said in a resigned tone.
"Terminate him, with extreme prejudice. You're the only person we know of who's made it out of the Old District alive in recent memory. You know it better than any of us. And we're short-staffed, and can't afford to send anybody on 'errands' like these. You will be rewarded handsomely, of course. A full pardon. Just bring back proof of your success." A final click, and the projector went cold.
"Like what?"
"A mark of identification, like, say, a hand or a head." Lambert got up and walked towards the door. "Anyways, we're done here. Sergeant Poopfeast will give you your equipment, and you'll be driven out to the area on one of our golf carts."
Opening the door, he made a motion to the two handlers standing just outside.
"Oh, and, before I forget, if you try to escape, we'll put a bounty on your head twice as big as last time." Lambert walked away, past the two men who immediately set about handcuffing me in the most brutal way possible.

>>17603354
So instead of Immersion as a level (>>17603298)
we have Immersion as a social stat? Like it shows you're level X Immersed in [Fandom A] and only Level Y Immersed in [Fandom B]?

the characters actual power level needs to depend on more than one thing as other anons said
examples:
- how many fans the fandom he is in have
- how good his costume
- how far away is he from his territory or is he on an "opposite" or "hostile" territory
- how long is his territory is occupied by his group
- how well know HE is

I keep thinking of this in terms of World of Darkness mechanics with Immersion being a sort of powerstat, which, like most, allows you to achieve super human abilities and the cosy of your sanity and attachment to the real world.

I see it like this. The more you believe you are your character or even just *A* character in general, the more believable your performance. Your immersion causes other people to get dragged in as well, so when you start emptying clips on your nerf gun, people fear that you are actually unloading hot lead all over the place. At intens elevels, reality itself starts bending to your will, and those nerf darts start shattering glass and leaving holes.. at least.. you think they do.. You could have sworn you left that wall full of holes..

But in the same way, you are vulnerable to the immersion of others. When they swing that plastic sword at you, your body instinctively reacts and hurts like it was just sliced open, though a brief reality check might save you from dying inside your own dream at the risk of losing your immersion based powers.

Imagine what might happen to a fandom leader so deeply immersed that he might actually DIE.. Like.. for reals.. after getting into a sword fight with another fan. He has to be rushed out of Infinity City and get a heavy reality check to save his life... But he may never be able to related to his followers ever again. All he'll see is a bunch of kids in silly costumes where his loyal soldiers used to be.

>>17603291
Still won't work because it's just a one-man fandom.
On the other hand, if you actually make something that's well-liked and popular, chances are that it won't be Over-Powered as fuck. And if you do make something that's OP and popular, chances are that there will be others who will cosplay as Mr. Winner.

>>17603394
>Sergeant Poopfeast will give you your equipment, and you'll be driven out to the area on one of our golf carts.

pfffftahahahahaha

Oh my god I would love to run this with my friends, several of whom are anime-con veterans.

>>17603318
And this is why cosplay contests would be Serious Business. When you have twenty Goku cosplayers running around, you need some way of figuring out which one gets the biggest powerboost.

Creators and actors/actresses would probably be a separate category. Maybe have Guests, Staff, Attendees, Vendors and Outsiders as your race equivalents?

>>17603395

I'm visualizing how this could be set up on a character sheet, and a little table, "Faction Realtions" could fix that. Just "Faction name, power (general control and hold on the convention), reputation (your relationship with the faction), and finally immersion.

>>17603372

Maybe it's something you have to buy like a feat. So if I took Immersion 2: Street Fighter and Immersion 4: Star Trek, I'd get minor bonuses in the faction space. Additionally, your immersion is tied either to a requirement or taboo. You either only get bonuses when a certain prerequisite is fulfilled, which becomes more difficult at higher immersion levels (A Touhou may at level 1 have to make it to Flandre on Lunatic once per day, whereas an Immersion 10 Touhou has to fully take on the aspect of a character), or they have taboos that cause them to lose power if broken (Not speaking in Klingon for Trekkies, mentioning the Star Wars Holiday Special).

>>17603417

This is pretty much what I was thinking of.

It would also explain why belonging to a more well-known fandom would give you more powers, since the more people recognize the characters and abilities and what is possible in the universe in question, the easier it is to convince them that you really ARE a badass from that series by dressing like it.

Same anon here.

>>17603163

This +1. Seriously. UnderCon gangs survive by a mixture of brutality, ruthlessness and press-gang mentality. Each disgraced obscure fandom in this twilight realm dreaming that one day their fandom will once again rise from the ashes and know the power and beauty of their slashfics

>>17603167

Holy Shit anon. That is what I was thinking too. You read my mind. What sorcery is this?

>>17603198

I agree but most fights would probably be confined to neutral territories of the city where Low Immersion normals go about making their living off the more permanent fandomites.

I would think Low immersion normals not fanatically invested in any one fandom would be the life-blood of the city itself. Drawan, Writtan, and Craftan the tools and resources of the disparate fandom factions of the city.

>>17603222

One fandomite to UNITE ALL TEH FANDOMS? IMPOSSIBRU!

Also you got trips

>>17603419

Sudden idea for BBEG. A guy who wants to kill all people who cosplay the same guy as him, because he wants all the power for himself.

Also he's a raving lunatic who really thinks he's fucking... Fluttershy or something. I dunno.

>>17603390

so you will play a Delta Green member?

>>17603433

I would say creators and actors would be NPCs. Everyone else would be fair game for a player character though.

>>17603033

Taking a break from this idea to write something else. I need a name to post by. Any suggestions?

>>17603417
I'm liking the concept of this. "Magic" is based on how much you believe, but in reasonable terms. Furries wouldn't turn into dogs, but their ears may all of a sudden have feeling, or a narutard could run up a wall for a bit.

>>17603433

Ahhh balls.Like it or not DBZ still has alot of fandom alot of nostalgia and alot of stupidity involved with it.Imagine a bunch of dumb fanatic Goku Cosplayers and the havoc a DBZ n00b could cause

and yet I still remember being 13 and it sounds fuggin awesome

>>17603485

Oh this is brilliant.

>>17603167

Great minds think alike, dude.

You know what this whole setting reminds me of?

Planescape. Infinicon is basically Sigil.

>>17603504

Just some variation on Writefag, don't worry about it.

>>17603485
So...like Jet Li's The One?

>>17603473
FATAL long ago consumed practically all of the bit of UnderCon beneath the PnP RPG district, except for the bit near the surface where most of the Rifts fandom ends up.

>>17603508
I can't wait for the /d/eviants to show up. Wouldn't want to be captures by them...

>>17603521

Seems good.

>>17603509
I think the issue of fanaticism and immersion versus power has to do with one's dedication to their fandom. Something like DBZ had it's popularity, but it's faded from the public eye and doesn't have the kind of following that the Ninjas and Pirates and new fangled shounen kids have.

Sure, everyone remembers and respects a bit of DBZ, but it doesn't have the power and respect it used to. Depending on how old InfiniCon is.. and it may span decades back to the inception of media and fantasy.. DBZ may be a crumbling dynasty.. a Shell of its former might that once had a mighty empire of its own.

>>17603490
Just require that PC creators and actors not be real people with real fandoms. That would prevent people from immediately trying to play as, say, Terry Pratchett.

>>17603570
Would fandoms == factions? Or are there offshoots or variations?

>>17603589

Narrative causality is broken as fuck. GM only power right there.

>>17603524

In a single room of the Undercon lies a small group of people. For years now, they have been engaged in the one known game of FATAL to have ever been played. The room radiates pure evil, and those who stray too near have been known to be sucked in. The Immersion levels of these players are so high they tune out everything, and people begin mutating as they walk near, hearing things such as "somatic charisma" and "anal circumference".

Nobody knows what will happen when the door opens and the FATAL-ites finally make their move. Most savvy groups have some last hope contingency plan for a reason though.

>>17603570

How about the devotion of the fandom affects how strongly they control a certain area of the convention floor, but a reputation stat or level will affect how long you retain power outside of that area.

So someone who is a really devoted and well-known Goku cosplayer may not have as strong as a home turf to draw power from, but he is more likely to keep that power level around more parts of the con.

>>17603485

Well that fuckwad of a villain would be pretty messed up but he wouldn't be very successful. When your power derives from the collective influence of your fandom, growing your fandom is the only means by which your fandom is able to sustain more power for you. Killing others of your fandom would only weaken your own fandom I imagine.

>>17603608

ACTIVATE THE DR. MANHATTAN COSPLAYER

>>17603624

Now I imagine how a veteran WH40k terminator player just teleports into a minor fandom territory (like... I don't know, maybe the Goblins webcomic territorry) to wreak havoc amongst them because his immersion is so strong that he can maintain most of his powers in that territory. It would be a total slaughter and another chapter in the war for controlling more territory.

Well, I'm sleeping now.

I'm really interested in this, and want to help out however I can, but I'm not terribly creative like most of you. I can help develop the system, stats, and logic stuff, and will be on tomorrow.

Toodles!

>>17603604

Fandoms can have several factions included underneath them.

You have your Star Wars fans, and then you have individual sub groups within that fandom that tend to fight among each other, unless united against another fandom or faction.

>>17603621

But within that fandom you are known as THE Fluttershy. And when you've Immersed enough to become Quadripedal, nobody's going to fuck with you.

>>17603621

I just imagined he killed only the people who cosplayed as him. Maybe he evens it out by trying to get other people to cosplay different things and recruit new members...


... which may be difficult since he's killing them all.

>>17603615
Sounds good. Maybe there's personal IMM and faction IMM? Personal + faction IMM while on faction property, and just personal when off it could work.

>>17603637

And that's where the security detail steps in to prevent that.

We also brought up the idea earlier of people hiring third parties as bodyguards or protection in case someone were to try that.

Based on what other's have said already,
I think there'd be a Sanity and a Hygiene stat, both of which seesaw around say 50. If they get above or below that, you get bonuses to some rolls, but penalties to others.
You slowly get stronger in your characters abilities, but less so with mental rolls or social rolls (to people of a different faction at least,) until at the end of the day (or several sleepless days) you wind down, take off the costume, take a bath, relax...

rolled 35 = 35

>>17603664

So now we've got two sets of stats: person physical stats, which would be your basic "baseline", and the your immersion level which would affect your faction connections and stat boosts/extra powers tied to those factions.

>>17603642

"Oh no, he has completely ascended an become the earthly embodiment of his character!"

"Uh, so... he can do horse things now?"

So back to the idea of players as a volunteer security team drawn from different fandoms. Now that we have this belief magic thing, that idea gets a bit stranger.

Hey guys I think we're in auto-sage. New thread?

>>17603668

yeah but as you can see WH40k would be a very strong faction and fandom. so it stands to reason that they could even go away with it.
And now I realized that the X vs. Y arguments are way more serious in Infinity City...

on an unrelated note:
holy fuck we are autosaging! Someone get a mod to sticky this thread!

>>17603710
I think that's a good start. We can start smoothing out the edges, and making this a lot cleaner.

>>17603606
Actors would have an easier time getting reputation and influence, but a harder time increasing their personal immersion. An actor who DOES start increasing their personal immersion is likely to end up forever lost to their role very quickly, unless they stop being actors and become attendees. Fallen actors have some other penalties to encourage the RL players to either not fuck up with their character or to ride the actor they're playing all the way down into irreversible madness before rolling a new character.

Creators have a more pronounced power curve between a new character and one you've been playing for a while. They also have a very different set of limitations and abilities from Attendees, gaining greater endgame power in exchange for more difficulty achieving and maintaining it along with a harder time regaining it should they Fall.

>>17603724

Well the actual security guards would have super-low immersion, so that attacks or effects based on fandom powers wouldn't affect them hardly, but they only have abilities that are at the level of a regular person. They're also not biased towards one fandom or the other and are impartial enforcers of the convention's laws.

Protection hired from other factions would have more muscle, but also be more vulnerable to powers from those other factions as well. They'll also be tied to political issues from their faction connections.

WE CANNOT LOSE INFINICON!!! I NEED THIS GODDAMNIT!!

>>17603624
"But sir, he's naked! The presence of his giant glowing blue dick will only increase the Fatalites' power!"

This thread is madness and genius. OP, thank you for posting, and thanks to everyone who has contributed / are contributing.

Started a new thread.

GET IN HERE

>>17603755

>>17603740

I'm imagining a fallen actor who has reached the absolute rock bottom- not only has he almost completely immersed into his character, losing his sense of self, but at the same time another person within his fandom has been declared a "truer" version of the character. So he doesn't even hold a real position of power. And whenever he tries to say who he is, nobody takes him seriously.

>>17603724

I think the security team would be something like a semi faction. It won't be a real faction that they couldn't participate in the political things but anyone from ANY faction could join them. By doing this they will maybe get a second "security" immersion that doesn't confront with any other immersion and the higher it gets the more it will force you to actually enforce the laws

1/2

I shuddered and my breath stilled, I knew this was it. A fate worse than death was nearing and I clutched by handcrafted replica lasgun in my hands, the battery having run dry. It had happened so quickly that most of the squad had been overwhelmed. It wasn't supposed to go like this. It should not have gone like this! Our squad was on just another reckon mission skirting the Furry territory watching for any sign of encroachment. The eastern edge is where all the fighting was going on, not here on the western border!

We were in the middle of our sweep when Johnson stopped, pale as a ghost. Then I heard it, his motion sensor was going off in a rhythmic beep.

"Contact!" He yelled.

"From where!?" I spat, running over to him to check the motion sensor. The beeping increased.

"...Everywhere."

The scanner was screaming, showing dots rushing from all directions. The CO yelled for everyone to circle up and get ready.

The lights flickered still, ill repaired for no sane janitor would travel to the bowels of the city. Wish we could say the same for us.

The motion sensor was having a seizure. Then we heard it, a long spine tingling howl. The alpha male of the hunting pack signaled and an uproaring chant of "Yiff! Yiff!" echoed in the halls as a wave of hormonal fur and plastic claws fell upon us.

"Light them up in the Emperors name!"

>>17603339
I'd decided to take one last spin around the city before I finished my magnum opus. Godhood - perhaps only in the confines of the City, but Godhood in fact. It was so simple - create and print a comic book where I was a God, then cosplay as my own character! I would be -perfect-.

It was up on Floor 8 where it happened. I was up visiting a Firefly group that had offered me some food and a place to sleep while the City 17 Drone cosplayers hunted me, heading back to the lobby alone, when a door suddenly appeared on the side of the hall. It swung open, and for a moment I was struck blind and deaf. Such beauty. Such radiance. I fell to the floor, prostrating myself before the figure standing inside the door, unable to sense Him but knowing he was the meaning of my existance. Then my eyes and ears were repaired, my mind returned to me, and I looked up at Him. He sighed. "This is your one warning. Do you see this tiny closet? This is My Domain. I can move it to any building in the City as I see fit. If I leave it, however, I won't just die - God Himself will see Me turned to dust for My arrogance. And He has set Me to a task - find those in the City who would dare to approach Godhood and inform them just how fucking stupid they are. If you really want to spend all eternity in a box where you control everything inside it but can't stretch out comfortably and can barely interact with the outside world, go right ahead, don't say you weren't warned."

The door slammed closed. I wept on the floor for hours, only revived by a passing TF2 Scout and his energy drink. When I staggered back to my room, I threw away all of my drawings and I'm spending the rest of my ink penning these warnings.
Do not play in the realms of the Gods.

Rule 34, as it applies to Infinicon: Every group has a sexual/fetish subgroup.
>>17602216
It's not like furries have a monopoly on sex, you guys.

This is probably the other big split besides factions, depending on where the con is.
>>17602007
oh good
>>17602330
The Wyld Welcomes You Who Wish To Live Your Tales
>>17602710
Y'know, I can see Daleks and Space Marines hanging out in the "No-Stairs-Bar" and commiserating.
>//rolls a dice\\
You have failed. Report to Friend Computer for termination.
>>17603181
>I very mad, only death shall know peace
You know, these concepts go together?
>>17603339
ahahahah that's great.
>>17603390
Have fun getting stopped at the door.
>Each disgraced obscure fandom in this TWILIGHt realm
FUUUUUUUUUUU